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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills on the road tonight playing the Houston Texans.

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The Lions minus five and a half. The total is

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forty three and a half. Art, Joe and I are

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going to take that game apart plus a whole lot

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more on the Best betting Show Ever. I'm Lawrence Presman.

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Thank you for joining us. Everyone hit that like button,

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subscribe to our channel and make sure to comment. Art Joe,

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how are you guys?

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Speaker 2: Joe?

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Speaker 1: We'll start with you first today, as you normally just

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sit there and shake your head.

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Speaker 2: Good price.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there we God, I had another winning night for

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my clients last night. How about you.

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Speaker 2: It's impressive, that's impressive. Yeah. Yeah. One our NBA games

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was we're good in college and ready for a Thursday

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night football game here college and NFL.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with where the money is going and

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then we'll get into the Bills and the Texans. Art,

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let's leave the Bulls in the Texans component of where

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the money is going.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Later on Steelers and Bears, Vikings and pack welcome to

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the show. How are those two games being bet?

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Speaker 3: So Bears right now, we're two and a half. We

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took Steeler money at three total. Really has a budget

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forty five, so I mean right now it's probably sixty

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forty stealer to bear money vikings green Bay very interesting.

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This has pretty much been six and a half from

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our opener. The total is what has really gotten bet

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down from forty three to forty one. We had mentioned

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we I think all think Minnesota might be the move

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here in this game. We've yet to see anyone want

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to come and take a position on that, but we

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know with green Bay sitting at six six and a

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half in that range, they're going to be very popular

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in the money lines and very popular in the teasers,

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so we'll probably be big Viking fans come kick off.

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Speaker 2: You think it hard? I mean Aaron Rodgers says he

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hopes to practice either today or tomorrow. They haven't ruled

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him out, But what are we thinking If he's in,

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are we getting any big move these out? Are we

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getting any big moves?

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's a difference.

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Speaker 3: I know this is crazy, but I think now it'd

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be interesting to see how the market reacts to it.

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We don't think here at the West Gate in the

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back room, we don't think there's a difference. Now, you know,

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the market's gonna dictate that, and our sharp betters are

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going to dictate what happens if he gets ruled in

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or out, and we might just have to move with that,

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But for us, we're treating them almost as equals.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll get back to the bills in Texans,

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but let's go into college football. Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech, New

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Mexico Course, and Louisville at SMU. Where's the money going

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in these three games?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pitt and Georgia Tech. Very underrated game, big game.

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Speaker 3: Georgia Tech. Mine is two and a half at home.

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This has actually seen really good two way action. It's

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been bouncing back and forth from two and a half

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to three. Total of sixty two going to bet this

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scheme over. They've already started to creep betting the over

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a little bit here, So I think that's going to

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shoot up. New Mexico at air Force the Sharp's League

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two and a half. It's now three and a half.

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fifty eight and a half, fifty seven and a half.

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That's kind of been shooting down. And then this Louisville

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SMU game. SMU is a two and a half point.

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Home favorite Sharps took three with Louisville really nothing to

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speak of on the total fifty two and a half.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty much been that all week.

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Speaker 2: I mean exactly. I think the air Force game is

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air Force won't have it starting quarterback. I could still

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see the money keep coming in on New Mexico. I

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mean they've hit him one now through the key number three,

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three and three and a half.

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Initial was two and a half.

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Speaker 3: Three And listen, once we get to four four and

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a half, I mean we're starting to talk dead numbers

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as we always talk about. You know, we're going to

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get to a point where how high can you get

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on a game? Because we even look at four as

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a dead number. I know there are people who don't,

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but for us, when you're looking at four, four and

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a half, five, five and a half, those are dead numbers.

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a blowout one way or the other. So you know,

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so when you're booking a college game, it's way different

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than when you're booking an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Art this Caes are with us a sports book Westgate.

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You're the risk advisor. Art. We got three college football

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games tonight, a slate of NBA and a slate of

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a college basketball in NHL. Anything we need to know

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about any of those before we attack Thursday night football.

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Speaker 3: I can give you some college basketball sharp stuff I've

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seen in the morning. Tennessee and Tennessee State. They've bet

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that total up from one fifty two to one fifty

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seven and a half. They bet Texas Tech minus nine,

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minus ten. They're now eleven playing wa in the Bahamas.

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And they took the under in the Indiana game under

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one sixty one. We're now one fifty seven and a

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half on that game.

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Speaker 1: There we go, let's get into it Thursday Night football,

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the Bills and the Texans and uh, we're now seeing

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minus five and a half pretty much across the board

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according to odds Logic, sixty four percent of the tickets

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written on Buffalo, seventy four percent of the money and

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a ton of action coming in on the under. Is

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that what you're seeing at the Westgate.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. We took sharp money on six this morning.

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We went to five and a half for us. We

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didn't take any sharp money on the total. We just

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moved with the market. We were forty four and a

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half when I came in this morning, we're now forty

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three and a half.

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Speaker 1: Joe, how do you attack this game?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Art here, we are back in dead numbers now, right,

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so five to five and a half, it's like, okay,

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so we're basically thinking it's a one, you know, a

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field goal game with the situation. I don't know. I'm

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still trying to come up with how we're getting forty

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four or more points here. I'm having a hard time

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calculating it because we talked about it yesterday. Art, this

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line would look ahead was two and a half. Three,

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it doubled, but the total didn't do it. And the

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total state of forty three and a half. So where

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the hell are the points coming from? Having a hard

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time coming up? You know, it feels like a twenty

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one thirteen kind of game, and I don't think we

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get anywhere near forty four points in this one.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you, and we talked yesterday how forty four

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and a half felt really high. Obviously you coming this morning,

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you see, okay, it's already a point lower. Does it

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go any lower?

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't really know what to think of the side either, way.

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We know for us, Buffalo is going to be very

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popular in moneyline parlays and teasers to start everyone's parlays

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off for the weekend, so we know we'll probably need

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the Texans in the game. But I'm with you, Joe,

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I think the Unders the move.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not with either of you guys. I just

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that you're saying that based on two things, one Houston's

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defense and two Houston's.

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Speaker 2: Lack of scoring.

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Speaker 1: I'll counter that with the fact that Buffalo just put

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up forty four of themselves against Tampa Bay. They've scored

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twenty eight or more seven of their last ten games.

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This is a team that regularly gets over thirty themselves.

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They're not gonna be playing in bad weather. It's not

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gonna be super windy. And I understand Houston's defense is good,

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but I mean, who's gonna hold this Buffalo team down.

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Tennessee put up thirteen on Houston. Tennessee putting up thirteen

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feels like Buffalo putting up fifty. Jackson will put up

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twenty nine on Houston. Denver put up eighteen. That feels

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like Detroit putting up seventy. To me, I know that

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Houston's defense is good, guys, But I feel like that

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that total is low. I would prefer the over, So

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should we bet an eyebrow?

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Speaker 2: Listen, pres the fact that you even brought that up,

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that you think six touchdowns in Orchard Park in the

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weather has anything to do with this week's game. It's

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got squat to do. But you know what, the market

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I got news for you. They're gonna think exactly that

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forty four point My god, I'm gonna drop forty four.

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How are they not gonna score indoors? You know how

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they're not gonna score indoors? Josh Allen keeps turning the

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damn ball over and they can't run the ball anymore.

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And who's he throwing to, by the way, Zach, who

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exactly is he gonna beat in that secondary? I think

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it's a nightmare waiting for Happing for Buffalo here. They

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might actually have a chance of losing this game outright,

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which is why I think the under is the only

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way to look in this one. Even the team total.

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If you want to fade Houston's team total, I get it,

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even against Buffalo's defense. But nothing screams wild shootout here. Eight.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Nothing screams wild shootout. Nobody is suggesting that

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Butler puts up forty four this week.

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Speaker 2: But and a half is what's their team total?

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Speaker 1: Well, I didn't look. But if you if you want

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me to guess a score on this game, I will guess.

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Speaker 2: I'll get it for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty seven twenty one, no too many.

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Speaker 2: Touchdowns, twenty four and a half.

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Speaker 1: I would take the I would that's a that's a

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very fair number. I would not go over or under.

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I think that's a very legit number. But hey, Joe,

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if I was so high on the over in this game,

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I wouldn't have said a word and just released it

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to my clients. I prefer the over. I ain't betting

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the over, so I'm taking it. You like Houston here,

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you like Houston here? Plus the points?

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Speaker 2: Well, Houston team total art is twenty twenty and a

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hal twenty where a lot. I would rather go under

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Houston art. Give me to Houston two total under. I

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don't see him scoring three times.

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Speaker 1: Agree, I agree. I agree with that, Joe. I don't

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think they're getting three touchdowns either, So I agree with that.

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Art anything on the side. I know you like the under, No,

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I mean I guess.

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Speaker 4: I would lean the home dog, but I don't love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'd rather have the points than lay them, I agree.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. That's our take on the Bills

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and the Texans. So Parley of the Day did not

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go well at all yesterday. Something about hockey Art.

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Speaker 3: Those oilers, man, they are and the team for the

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rest of time.

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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I not like your leg hit anyway, but that's not

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here in artist.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I didn't blame you. I said something about hockey Man.

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Speaker 2: We are going to create a hell list here on

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Parlay of the Day teams from now on. There are

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going to be certain teams and antenna hell no, we

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are not allowed to bet them unless we're fading them.

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That's the only way we are allowed to mention.

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Speaker 1: So we're we should start every show with who's on

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our hell noes? Okay, exactly. So I'm going counter intuitive here,

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Toronto may believe sixteen and four to the I'm playing

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the under. What is wrong with the under in the

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leaf game?

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Speaker 2: How is that over? What?

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Speaker 1: What is the problem with the college U n LB

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on the money line? Screwing it both? But there you go, guys,

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I gave you an extra play the under game that

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was that was a bonus. I did that purposely, O

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n l V. On the money line, what do you got, Art, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Gonna give you Tennessee on the money line. I think

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they go into the swamp and kick the gators.

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Speaker 2: Joe, that's impressive. I kind of like the way that's

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uh that you're looking at that. Art. All right, I

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am going to go since you guys are gonna make

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things difficult. I think Oregon on the money line, I

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think Oregon beats USC at home. Let's keep it simple.

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Got to win it to be in it, right, I'll

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take Oregon to win on the money line.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Yes, we got that segment done.

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Speaker 2: Art.

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Speaker 1: You can go back to work now. I'm glad you

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had a smile on your face. You enjoyed your time

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with us.

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Speaker 2: Oh, be good, Art, I appreciate it. Art, thanks for

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leaving me as always.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see Art. We'll see Art this season tomorrow.

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Great way to start the day, Joe. I don't think

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we've ever got through that Thursday College Football parlay. Correct? No,

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and I would. I think it's me every time.

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Speaker 2: And you always started off with the wrong player. You

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don't even pick the right sport, and I just wait

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to see arts reaction, absolutely priceless. Yep, brother, it's time

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for some business.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, let's get to the business speed, Joe.

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Speaker 1: I'm freaking rolling right now, brother, A nine and two

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since Tuesday, that's right, I've won nine games, lost two games.

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I'm rolling in every sport. I won my last two

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college basketball games.

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Speaker 4: I am on.

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Speaker 1: An eight and three NBA run. I am dominating NHL

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of late, and I'm excited about my NFL. I got

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a lot going right now, dude, and call tonight alone.

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Thursday night, I got two NHL games, one college football,

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one NFL. My NFL is a parlay bet. I got

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an NBA. I got so much going on it's ridiculous.

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And this Sunday I got two nflats bets, which is

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about as rare as it gets. And I know you've

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got luck going on too. We've got a great promo

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up and it's gonna run out, only a few more

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days left. It's ninety nine dollars for ten days. That's

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under ten dollars a day, ninety nine bucks for ten days.

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You get all my plays, and I am in freaking rhythm.

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With that said, Joan areas too. He's up in every

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single sport going on currently right now except hockey because

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he doesn't have any balls to do it. Yet you

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want to take over, Joe.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm laughing here, bro, because it's not has nothing

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to do with balls, although we've learned a lot about

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your fascination with balls this week. It's time. It's literally time, yes,

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but there will come a time where we'll get back

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on the Panther. By the way, how the Panthers all

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guys in barbecue accidents now? Like what in the world

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will winning? And it's still like what is going on

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with the Florida Panthers? Like Jesus lights some sage or

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something there. Pres still got that five percent college football

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max bet up and available at wager Talk. I'm just

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loading up the rest of the NFL card. I got

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a big college basketball card here tonight, and it looks

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like once I can confirm here in the NBA with

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one team what's going on, I will fire away now

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twenty one and eight on the season in the NBA. PRES,

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so yeah, we are rolling right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, use that Bromo code. There's no code, just

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head over to Joe or my webs page over at

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wagertok dot com. Ninety nine dollars for ten days. Check

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it out, Joe, let's get into it man. We're going

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out to the clock. We got college football bets NHL Rundown,

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Hoops Rundown, and we're gonna end the sh show with

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the mailbag segment. Joe, I got two college football bets

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qu the clock and let's get straight into it.

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Speaker 2: Boom.

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Speaker 1: Temple plus eight and a half vers Tulane. This is

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a classic spot where the schedule maker is handed the

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home dog a massive advantage. Yes, Temple has had two

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full weeks to prepare for this game. They've been sitting

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at home, resting, getting out the and stewing on a

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fifty two and six beat down Tulane put on them

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last year. This is a massive revenge spot with a

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huge preparation edge. On the flip side, look at Tulane.

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They are running on fumes. This is their third road

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game in four weeks. That travel takes its toll and

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it shows up on the injury reporters. They have twelve

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twelve players listed as questionable. Temple is seven to three

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against the spread this year, let's not overthink it. They

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win this game, their Bowl eligible. Take Temple plus eight

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and a half. As for our next game, a sexy

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one at that USC going into Oregon, and I like

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the Oregon team total over thirty four and a half points. Yes,

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that's right, seven touchdowns get us there, and this game

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screams points. Let's look at the history the last ten

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meetings between these two schools, this game has produced at

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least fifty four points in every single game. Eight of

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those ten went over sixty. But here's why I'm isolating

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Oregon specifically USC. The bottom line is, over the last

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three games, the Trojans are giving up nearly one hundred

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and seventy rushing yards per game. Oregon's going to be

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able to run the ball down this team's throat. The

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USC front seven are simply getting pushed around. Oregon's offense

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ranks number one in the entire country in yards per rush,

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averaging over six a play. They are to get over

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forty in this game. Take Oregon Ducks over thirty four

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and a half points. Joe, what are your two rays?

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Speaker 2: I like that, As a matter of fact, I'm betting

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that right now. All right, A couple of college football plays.

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I'm on this week, and yes, this team should very

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well be on the hell no list, buts Florida States

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is on the road taking on NC State, and the

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reality is, listen, Florida State is a much better team

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than North Carolina State. They are a hot mess. North

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Carolina State's defense is atrocious, but Florida State can't win

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a damn game on the road, which makes them impossible

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to want to back here. Even though all of my

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numbers favor Florida State by close to double digits in

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this game, I can't do it. I mean three road

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losses in games in which they have outplayed everybody on

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the road only in losing efforts, because it's got to

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be mental at this particular point in time. But what

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I will do is back to over in this game here,

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pez because if it's the one thing NC State can do,

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it's they got a pretty good offense and they will

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be at home here. I got no problem looking at

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the over in that one there. Florida State just can't

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win on the road. The other games are gonna go

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out west because I think this number is a little

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light here with Fresno State at home taking on Utah State.

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Fresno State right now playing some great football. Defensively, they're

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playing well. We know they can score, and now they've

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got an opportunity here in their home finale, maybe with

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a shot at a Mountain West title game. Meanwhile, Utah

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State is worse than Florida State. They've lost seven straight

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on the road. They got a home finale against Boise

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State coming up next week. But yeah, I like the

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defense here Fresno State. I like the offense. It's rolling,

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it's a kick them price. I mean Fresno minus three

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right now. I think Fresno State gets it done a

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big way at home there.

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Speaker 1: Prez Joe, let's keep going NHL rundown twelve fricking games

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on tap. I like Toronto Joe minus won ten against Columbus.

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I understand Toronto is a walking injury report, but I

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think they get it done tonight, and I like the

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under in that game. I prefer the under. I like

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Philadelphia against Saint Louis. I think Saint Louis is a

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really bad team and one that is having just problems everywhere,

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especially in the dressing room. Minus one twenty or Philadelphia

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Montreal tonight minus one thirty five coming off of a

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bad stretch, and Washington is in a bad spot. They're

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on a travel back to back and they just played

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a tough game against Edmonton. I like the New York

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Islanders as a small dog against Detroit. The New York

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Islanders are a much better team than everyone anticipated, and

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I like the over in that game too. The number

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is six. I think we get having goals. Florida is

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the bet here minus one fifty against New Jersey. You

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think Florida is injured, New Jersey is a mess as well,

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and regardless about who's injured off Florida, they just seem

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to get it done. Minus one fifty for the Panthers

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and the over in the Edmonton Tampa Bay game, Joe look.

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I normally like to bet unders in Tampa Bay, but

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there is a few sixes out there, and unless Edmundson

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can can find themselves a goaltender, this team can't get

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out of its own way. I gotta believe we're gonna

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get seven in this one tonight. I like Vegas in Utah, Utah.

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I think is obviously playing much better this year than last,

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but this is a team that is on a little

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bit of a negative slide, and I think Vegas is

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a bet on team moving forward. Colorado just can't lose games.

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But I don't like this spot. I don't want to

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bet against the Rangers here. I'm gonna actually pass on

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this hockey game, Ottawa playing Anaheim. I like the Ducks

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here as a small dog. San Jose playing the Kings.

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I like over five and a half in this game,

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and I like over six and a half in the

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Vancouver Dallas game? Who run down all yours?

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Speaker 2: Did you? Did? I hear the black Hawks cracking call there? Press?

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So you didn't.

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Speaker 1: I like Chicago Chicago on the money line. The Chicago

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team is doing some good stuff.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you, Prez. I was on the

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Calshi market place the other day and they had a

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really good price for Detroit to make the postseason, to

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make the playoffs, I mean what they're I think they're

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in the top spot right now, are they Is that

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a mirage? Or are we buying Detroit getting back to

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the postseason here?

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, Joe, it's more probably how stacked

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that division is. Like you have Montreal as an up

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and coming team, right, Uh, so you've got Boston is

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rocking and rolling. So Florida, Tampa, Bay, Detroit, Boston, Montreal,

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and I do believe Toronto, no matter how bad they start,

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is going to be in the thicket things. There are

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six teams right there that are all capable of making

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the playoffs, and Ottawa and Buffalo, believe it or not,

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are not far behind. Really well, Ottawa's missing Brady Kachuk

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once he comes back. We saw what they did towards

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the end of last year. This is a team that's

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much better than their record. And Buffalo is making a

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little bit of noise. Everybody is kind of packed in there.

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I don't know, dude, I don't know about Detroit. It's

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a division.

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Speaker 2: Yep, it is all right, Prez. Let's go NBA college basketball.

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Start with the Clippers and the Magic. Struggling Clippers team obviously,

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they've gotten a season long seven game road trip here

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that they are trying to get going on. But they're

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gonna take on the Orlando Magic here, second of a

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back to back for them. They had no problem winning

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last night. Looks like Jalen Suggs in the lineup for Orlando.

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This has got underwritten all over it. No reason to

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look any other way than that. The Hawks taking on

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the Spurs. No web Byama for San Antonio, but they

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are dealing with a couple of other cluster injuries there

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Stephen Castle and a few others, but they still have

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the Aaron Fox. Recachet should be good to go, but

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he is questionable for the Hawks. I do like Atlanta

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here to bounce back in this one. Sixers and the

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Bucks sixers last night turn the ball over. I don't know,

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nine thousand times got smoked by Toronto. Good call by you,

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Prez on the Raptors there, but they will have Paul

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George and Embiid back here tonight, so I do think

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a bounce back is in store. I don't know who

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can bet on Sacramento or Memphis and with a straight face,

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so I won't do either because they're both horrific. But

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let's take a look at a couple of college basketball

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games here, Prez. And of course, anytime the number one

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team is in the Bahamas taken on Memphis, you got

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to talk about them. Purdue lay in what sixteen sixteen

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and a half?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 2: Did open up fourteen and a half. They're at the

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Bahamar there in NASA and the Bahamas taken on Penny

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Hardway and Memphis, and you want to care to guess

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how many returning players Memphis has none zero, because that

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is what Penny Hardaway does. In the meantime, Purdue has

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one of the most experienced backcourts, which is why they're

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number one here. That trio Brandon, Smitch, Fletcher Lawyer and

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Trey Kaufman Wren the best in the country. I think

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this has got blowout written all over at Memphis will

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take no I mean Purdue will take no prisoners tonight, Prez,

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look for them to roll Memphis.

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Speaker 1: Team Joseph. Let's get to the mailbag section of the show.

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T Bone Stobs writes, a few books will offer minus

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one in hockey as opposed to the regulation line. Would

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you ever prefer a minus one bet for overtime protection?

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So basically, Joe Carmine and I have been talking about

474
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this for a while now, this minus one and what

475
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,400
it does. If you bet, you can bet a money line,

476
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say it minus one sixty, You can bet a sixty

477
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:37,400
minute line at say even money, and then you can

478
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bet the minus one, which would probably be around minus

479
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one ten. Which one of those bets do you like?

480
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The most. I hate the minus one bet. I hate

481
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,400
that bet at such a high level. Now I have

482
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not done the math and I'm actually going to do

483
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,680
a deep dive into the minus one, but I do

484
00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:01,160
not like that bet. So many any of these games

485
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,160
end in one. They are three to two, four to three.

486
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,039
Almost every game is a one goal game, so you're

487
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:13,759
basically constantly gonna be pushing. I'd rather you seventy percent

488
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,640
of all games end in regulation this year. It's only

489
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,599
going to get bigger. It's gonna be seventy five percent

490
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,160
when all said and done. I hate minus one. I

491
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,240
would much where you guys take the U the sixty

492
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,200
minute line. Do you have any thoughts on that.

493
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: Pras that number you gave me last yesterday on the

494
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show was mind numbing here given the fact that, I mean,

495
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thirty percent of the games are going to overtime, and

496
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where what a little over a month into the season

497
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,079
right now here, and we're seeing a lot of overtime,

498
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,039
a lot of one goal games, and we're also seeing

499
00:27:50,079 --> 00:27:53,759
again goalies being polled with three minutes four minutes to go.

500
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,200
I don't know what the sudden you know, pushes early

501
00:27:57,279 --> 00:27:59,519
in the season. I don't know if the analytics have

502
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,519
changed or what teams are trying to do, but it

503
00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:05,960
seems like there's a lot more desperation early in the

504
00:28:06,039 --> 00:28:09,799
season here with teams, and they're willing to take more

505
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,480
risks than chances. I don't know how sustainable it is,

506
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,160
but it is absurd, Prez. What is there any value

507
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,920
in laying one if every game goes to thirty percent

508
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,880
of the games are going to overtime and it's going

509
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,359
to land one one way or the other.

510
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, all you're doing is pushing. That's your sister. Richard

511
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:31,200
writes his favorite pizza is John's Pizza in West Village

512
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,680
in New York. One hundred year old brick Oven shout

513
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,480
out to John's Pizza. Yes, I've never had it. Do

514
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:39,200
you have any this?

515
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,599
Speaker 2: No pizza, no West Village in New York now, But yeah,

516
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:46,359
one hundred year old brick Oven is there's a certain

517
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,960
taste to that that you're not getting. That you're not

518
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,480
getting that Sabarros in them all.

519
00:28:50,519 --> 00:28:53,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that, Chip guy rights, let's do a

520
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:56,640
Survivor segment on Thursday would be great for the five

521
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,319
of us still in Yeah, no, that that that ship

522
00:29:01,359 --> 00:29:02,559
has sailed.

523
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Man when he's on the forty nine ers, though I

524
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:08,039
think he said he's leaning for I agree, by the way, Chip,

525
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:11,400
I agree. If you have forty nine ers available now,

526
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,480
this is the game to play it. Absolutely yes, do.

527
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: Not take the Saints. Do not take the Saints. No, Joe, uh,

528
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,720
the definition of savage sarcasm.

529
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,599
Speaker 2: That's you. Thank you.

530
00:29:25,599 --> 00:29:27,279
Speaker 1: You wanted to talk about somebody?

531
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:27,799
Speaker 2: What did you want?

532
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,039
Speaker 1: Well?

533
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:30,319
Speaker 2: No, there were a couple of comments here that I

534
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:35,599
thought was interesting. What is it? Jitum bit Agin one

535
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,759
two three six says your spot on prez Rani's a

536
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:42,799
real character, always fidget either making faces or just being

537
00:29:42,839 --> 00:29:46,400
uneasy while sitting still. He has never ever looked relaxed.

538
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680
There's a certain bit of truth to that. But also,

539
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,799
who do you think is producing this show live right now?

540
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,799
How do you think that's wrong? Do you think the

541
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480
exactly these things are switching themselves? These graphics are popping

542
00:30:00,519 --> 00:30:04,240
up at him. Yeah, not happening here. So we're walking

543
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,839
and chewing them at a high rate here, which is

544
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,559
why I look a fidgety. Also, DTA three twelve writes,

545
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,359
I always wonder when people say, quote, this team is

546
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,920
desperate end quote, like Joe said yesterday about talking about

547
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
the Kansas City Chiefs. He said, do they expect the

548
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,319
team to magically play better because they need a win?

549
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,440
By that logic, wouldn't a team that's own eleven be

550
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:33,400
desperate every week? Well, Kansas City has won the AFC

551
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,759
West every year since twenty and sixteen. They are five

552
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:41,240
and five and they are well, we're just at a

553
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:44,119
super Bowl a year ago. They are on five and

554
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,599
one score games. Comparing Kansas City to an own eleven team,

555
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,559
thinking that is the same level of desperation is a

556
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:56,400
little bit ridiculous. Let's not compare apples to oranges here.

557
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,079
You're talking about a Hall of Fame quarterback with mobile rings.

558
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
I want to that level of desperate is totally different

559
00:31:02,279 --> 00:31:04,400
than the Saints level of desperate.

560
00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't want to add to that, Joe,

561
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,559
Kansas City was in a must win game every time

562
00:31:12,599 --> 00:31:16,000
they were in the playoffs. Every single game in the

563
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:20,079
playoffs is a must win game. They have already demonstrated

564
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,799
under the current regime. Basically the current roster with the

565
00:31:24,839 --> 00:31:30,039
same quarterback that they love must win games. They are

566
00:31:30,079 --> 00:31:33,440
at their best in must win games. A team that's

567
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,480
ohero and eleven is at their worst in must win

568
00:31:37,599 --> 00:31:44,000
games because they've been playing one for about seven straight games. Anyway,

569
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,240
I agree, Joe Matt barb oh uck two quick things.

570
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:51,680
Jason wrote, because remember back where we ent the Kelshy

571
00:31:51,799 --> 00:31:54,480
segment where I told everybody that bitcoin was going to

572
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:59,519
tank by September December. Well, bitcoin, Yeah, you remember I

573
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,200
said that bitcoin is down to eighty eight dollars US

574
00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:08,359
right now there has been a huge pullback. I'll tell

575
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,160
you guys flat out. I think bitcoin is going to

576
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,599
continue to drop for the next little while. What does

577
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,200
that mean?

578
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: Bye? Yeah? What? It always starts to drop, doesn't It

579
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000
has the reset it in order to go higher. But

580
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:27,079
it's not only.

581
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:29,599
Speaker 1: About It's not only about resetting it. Look at what

582
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,200
Michael Slayer and Street and Strategy are doing right now, bro.

583
00:32:34,839 --> 00:32:38,079
I mean he just bought nine thousand bitcoin and one

584
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,799
hundred and five grand ten days ago. Now it's at

585
00:32:40,839 --> 00:32:44,839
eighty eight grand. This is all good news in the

586
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,960
long run for bitcoin, not bad news, good news. I

587
00:32:50,039 --> 00:32:53,039
would watch and wait for the next couple of weeks,

588
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,000
and then I would jump right in. And Matt Bartley writes,

589
00:32:57,319 --> 00:32:59,799
hang a sign on the wall at a guitar shop,

590
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,559
no stairway, no smoke on the water, no oilers. I'd

591
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,160
like to add no hotel California. What do you guys

592
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,920
want to add to that list? Put it up in

593
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,400
the comments section. Joe, I like it. Great freaking show

594
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,279
bro Boo.

595
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Speaker 2: Let's go see you tomorrow.

