Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog.
Speaker 2: We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog.
Speaker 3: Coming over the fence and he was dead.
Speaker 1: And once you hit the.
Speaker 3: Ground like, I didn't see any cars.
Speaker 1: All I saw was my dog coming over the fence.
Speaker 3: Sat, what are you putting?
Speaker 1: We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 1: Did you see what it was or was it was?
Speaker 2: Standing enough?
Speaker 3: I'm out here looking through the window now and I
Speaker 3: don't see anything.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go outside, Jesus, Quice, you better hello,
Speaker 1: hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2: What quin?
Speaker 1: I'm out there?
Speaker 3: I thought of a bitch about tick forty nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know easy ann out there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm bulking right head uh.
Speaker 3: Tonight, we're heading back into the frozen wilderness of Alaska.
Speaker 3: Joining me once again is Fred from the Subarctic Alaska
Speaker 3: Sasquatch YouTube channel. If you've heard Fred before, you already
Speaker 3: know his experiences don't sound like campfire stories. They sound
Speaker 3: like first hand survival moments pulled straight from one of
Speaker 3: the most unforgiving landscapes on Earth, and if this is
Speaker 3: your first time hearing him, buckle up. Fred is back
Speaker 3: to share more wild encounters from deep in the Alaskan wilderness.
Speaker 3: Moments that challenge logic, test fear, and blur the line
Speaker 3: between what we're told as possible and what might actually
Speaker 3: be out there. And if you want even more of
Speaker 3: Fred's encounter stories, be sure to head over to his
Speaker 3: YouTube channel Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch, hit subscribe or click the
Speaker 3: link right here in the show notes to dive deeper
Speaker 3: into the amazing stories he shares like no one else can.
Speaker 3: Now sit back, relax, and enjoy these encounter stories from
Speaker 3: Fred in Alaska.
Speaker 2: Hey, Greeting's this fread and Alaska. Thanks for joining me today.
Speaker 2: It's been a minute. I want to thank all those
Speaker 2: who have reached out in regards to my dad's passing,
Speaker 2: sending your condolences. It means a lot and I sincerely
Speaker 2: appreciate it. What I wanted to share with you today
Speaker 2: comes from James. We'll call him Junior though, okay, because
Speaker 2: he's a junior to a senior. James and his uncle
Speaker 2: Oscar had a.
Speaker 1: Very messed up encounter.
Speaker 2: It's going on six years ago now, and so I
Speaker 2: got to give you a little bit of the backstory.
Speaker 2: So James's uncle, Oscar, and James's dad, James Senior, inherited
Speaker 2: this piece of native allotment from their parents. So in context,
Speaker 2: the parents only went to this property by themselves.
Speaker 1: It was their getaway. They did bring any other family.
Speaker 2: It was their solitude away from everything, growing up and everything.
Speaker 1: James was the elder of Oscar.
Speaker 2: The two brothers, there was a certain level of resentment
Speaker 2: because they weren't allowed to go. And so once their
Speaker 2: dad got ill and everything and ended up passing, of
Speaker 2: course it went on to mom. And then when their
Speaker 2: mom was getting ill, the issue of the property came
Speaker 2: up and it was to be in a combined thing
Speaker 2: between the two brothers, James and Oscar. James being the elder,
Speaker 2: he still had a little bit of the resentment. But
Speaker 2: looking back, their mom before she passed, had laid out, Hey,
Speaker 2: this particular property, there's some things that had happened while
Speaker 2: we're out there.
Speaker 1: Be aware. It's not a very nice place.
Speaker 2: It's how she would put it, but would never expound
Speaker 2: on it or elaborate.
Speaker 1: You know why exactly.
Speaker 2: She was saying that they inherited the land, they did
Speaker 2: nothing with it.
Speaker 1: For a number of years, it.
Speaker 2: Got to where Oscar kept coming to James Senior and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: let's build a cabin together. Let's do this, James Seniors,
Speaker 2: you know what, my son can have the property with you.
Speaker 1: I wanted one to do it because he's still wrong
Speaker 1: or indifferent.
Speaker 2: He held certain resentments of not being allowed to go there.
Speaker 1: So therefore is I want one to do it, So
Speaker 1: be it teach his own.
Speaker 2: So Oscar the uncle because at this point in time
Speaker 2: when he said I'm going to give it to my son,
Speaker 2: James said that James was too young to do quat.
Speaker 1: It's this little kid toddler.
Speaker 2: Really, Over the years, Oscar started making improvements on it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't just drive up to it.
Speaker 2: It was like twenty some plus miles by either very
Speaker 2: horrible four wheeler trail.
Speaker 1: Or snow machine ride in the winter.
Speaker 2: So what he ended up doing is making trail, doing
Speaker 2: little bits of improvements here and there, clearing out some
Speaker 2: of the woods.
Speaker 1: For the most part, it was heavily wooded property. Slopes.
Speaker 2: It had variations in the geography. It wasn't just swampland
Speaker 2: or anything, but the far end, the far north end,
Speaker 2: where he essentially decided to build the cabin. The far
Speaker 2: north end, the last ten acres or so was like
Speaker 2: went from up on a moderately solid hillside type deal
Speaker 2: and it flattened out onto the muskeg and it had
Speaker 2: some black spruce and it opened up into a tundra
Speaker 2: and basically muskeg and swampy. Over time, he ended up
Speaker 2: getting a caribou cabin and this is basically imagine a
Speaker 2: dried end shell of basically a shed, and he ordered it.
Speaker 1: It was a fourteen by sixteen.
Speaker 2: The kit came with two windows, a door, and all
Speaker 2: the fixens and the trusses to build this little thing
Speaker 2: with all the floor joists and everything right.
Speaker 1: It was this complete kit. And so he got it.
Speaker 2: And where he positioned it was on that far north
Speaker 2: end of the property.
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of a rise where.
Speaker 2: The top of the rises about twenty feet above the
Speaker 2: ground where he wanted to place this one.
Speaker 1: And so he put in the pilings.
Speaker 2: He used sauna tubes and quick crete to make the
Speaker 2: footings and whatnot.
Speaker 1: Built it elevated up.
Speaker 2: It was elevated three foot off that backside, and then
Speaker 2: it was up to about not quite four foot to
Speaker 2: the outer side of it. So when you're facing this cabin,
Speaker 2: initially the door was to the far left with some
Speaker 2: small steps to get in and out. Then off to
Speaker 2: the further to the left was that it ran parallel
Speaker 2: with this rise, and it was a ridge twenty foot
Speaker 2: difference between where you're standing at the bottom and where
Speaker 2: it is at the top. And it was lightly wooded
Speaker 2: and enough to where he wanted it right there, so
Speaker 2: any runoff ran away from the cabin. It was strategic.
Speaker 2: He was just looking at it. Okay, went a run off,
Speaker 2: I don't want it to cause poblems. It runs parallel
Speaker 2: with this rise. And then on the back side, if
Speaker 2: you're standing in the front, the trail in wraps around
Speaker 2: like a jay and it just runs straight for good
Speaker 2: distance before it kind of dog legs back and forth
Speaker 2: getting back out. He gets this cabin in there. Initially
Speaker 2: there's nothing squooky, nothing crazy. He found it too small.
Speaker 2: So what it ended up doing was getting another kit
Speaker 2: identical to it, combining them, so it essentially it became
Speaker 2: twenty eight foot wide sixteen foot and it was basically
Speaker 2: the initial one he put up, he converted that into
Speaker 2: two bedrooms, had access put them together. So the new
Speaker 2: one he added in was of course higher off the
Speaker 2: ground because it sloped a way, and so it was
Speaker 2: a little more elevated, and he skirted it all in
Speaker 2: and when he went in, he moved the door from
Speaker 2: the one side, covered that up, blocked it up, and
Speaker 2: moved the door to where he had an arctic injury.
Speaker 2: So when you stepped inside, he built the wall where
Speaker 2: he had basically a mudroom, to where all the winter
Speaker 2: clothes can stay out there and you can go in
Speaker 2: without tracking snow everywhere.
Speaker 1: Right, so when you get.
Speaker 2: Inside woodstove right there, right off to the right, when
Speaker 2: you come in, the little doorway into the one other
Speaker 2: side where it was converted to the two bedrooms, one
Speaker 2: on this end and one on the far end. The
Speaker 2: one on the far end was Oscar's room, and it
Speaker 2: was divided evenly as far as the space, and in
Speaker 2: between that woodstove and the doorway into that initial bedroom
Speaker 2: was the table against the inner wall. And then once
Speaker 2: you get back into the corner there's the kitchen area.
Speaker 2: There's a sink with a bit of a drain graywater whatever.
Speaker 2: It just ran basically to outside. Everything skirted in. So
Speaker 2: what Oscar ended up doing is creating a hatch inside
Speaker 2: the floor of this second addition to where he can
Speaker 2: go down, and he had a compartment area for batteries
Speaker 2: and a generator so he can do it from all
Speaker 2: inside because it gets really cold. This particular area, we'll
Speaker 2: just say it is in the interior. We'll just leave
Speaker 2: it at that for anonymity, but not necessarily the location
Speaker 2: is the behaviors involved prior to that.
Speaker 1: I try to focus on for people to understand.
Speaker 2: So he had a pretty slick and over the years
Speaker 2: of developing it and fine tuning everything, he had a
Speaker 2: nice battery bank on pallets he can go down, fire
Speaker 2: up the generator. He had everything wired that he needed,
Speaker 2: outlets inside lamps, that type of stuff. Right. He even
Speaker 2: had dug a four foot hole he put up basically
Speaker 2: a pine pole pine log that he stripped the bark
Speaker 2: and then one end he like quadruple painted it just
Speaker 2: for waterproofing essentially, and then buried it, packed it down
Speaker 2: and he ran wire to it and had some of
Speaker 2: these look like street lamp fifty watt high pressure sodium
Speaker 2: shits you can get from Walmart or wherever.
Speaker 1: He had two of them up there to where when.
Speaker 2: They got dark, it had the sensors and they would
Speaker 2: pop on if he was running the generator or whatnot.
Speaker 2: And he can also work it with the switch inside,
Speaker 2: and so he'd have work light outside when he was
Speaker 2: getting dark. And it was about twenty feet going out
Speaker 2: the door directly off the little small porches.
Speaker 1: Twenty feet right off to the.
Speaker 2: Right, and there's a pole with the lights right when
Speaker 2: you're looking out the front of this place. So from inside,
Speaker 2: let's say you're walking in the Arctic entry. You're inside
Speaker 2: the second inside door. You get in there and there's
Speaker 2: going to be an immediate window to your left, and
Speaker 2: you know, about six feet from the corner down on
Speaker 2: the end, there's another window. They're identical, four foot by
Speaker 2: five foot, no openings. There's a window in each room
Speaker 2: that slide open, vinyl type windows. So those are the
Speaker 2: windows you have. And then at the far end, you
Speaker 2: got yourself a counter, a place where a fridge he
Speaker 2: hasn't put in yet, a makeshift sink, and storage and
Speaker 2: cupboards and whatnot. And then you got the table in
Speaker 2: between the two bedroom doors. And then the wood stove,
Speaker 2: and then immediately to your left on the inside, he
Speaker 2: had various forms of storage chainsaw on, just little old
Speaker 2: oil crates and things like that to store stuff, and
Speaker 2: they all just sat underneath the windows and whatnot, and
Speaker 2: the windows were each about three foot off the floor.
Speaker 2: That's basically the layout right now, years have gone by,
Speaker 2: nothing has happened, right, and so what he ended up
Speaker 2: doing is because there's two roofs, what he ended up
Speaker 2: doing was running basically joyce from one roof line to
Speaker 2: the other like this to where they eventual combined. And
Speaker 2: then internally he had the two separate roofs, but from
Speaker 2: the outside he put tin roofing and all that, so
Speaker 2: it was just one roof but essentially there was two
Speaker 2: roofs underneath.
Speaker 1: It was put together.
Speaker 2: So approximately six years ago, it was in November. It
Speaker 2: was frozen up enough to where he could take the
Speaker 2: four wheeler one last time before snowfall and everything where
Speaker 2: he'd have to worry about snow machine.
Speaker 1: So he comes on in there.
Speaker 2: When he comes in, he noticed that there's something off,
Speaker 2: something just didn't feel right, because he's been going out
Speaker 2: there religiously off and on like several times a year
Speaker 2: making improvements down they're living there, so he could since
Speaker 2: something was off.
Speaker 1: It was real odd, and he got there late in
Speaker 1: the afternoon.
Speaker 2: It wasn't too far before sunset, right, and so he
Speaker 2: did his thing. He fired up the generator and made
Speaker 2: sure the batteries were good. He went through all his checklists,
Speaker 2: made sure there was firewood inside and everything was good.
Speaker 2: Between where the light pole is and the side of
Speaker 2: the house, if you're standing alongside the house from the
Speaker 2: you're looking in that direction. Directly from that light hule
Speaker 2: is a small shed and in that small shed is
Speaker 2: where he kept things like spare fuel, in the excess
Speaker 2: snowmobile parts, four wheeler parts, that kind of stuff, because
Speaker 2: he initially kept it in the cabin, but it would
Speaker 2: add up clutter so quickly he just found a better spot.
Speaker 2: That and his little trap door that goes to underneath
Speaker 2: the place. He had storage under there too, but is
Speaker 2: a cold storage and the trap door he had made
Speaker 2: to access underneath. You got to understand from what he
Speaker 2: was saying, the skirting he put on this place was
Speaker 2: very It wasn't just flimsy. It was basically framed in skirting,
Speaker 2: very solid and weather treated to where it wouldn't just
Speaker 2: dry rot over.
Speaker 1: A couple of seasons.
Speaker 2: It was stout because he didn't want it easily pushed
Speaker 2: in by snow or snow coming off the roofline causing
Speaker 2: a problem. He thought ahead on it, but it was
Speaker 2: cold storage under there. It was no heat outside of
Speaker 2: having the door open or whatever. So where he had
Speaker 2: his generator set up, he had an exhaust port to
Speaker 2: where the exhaust goes outside and it doesn't kill everyone
Speaker 2: indoors anyway. With that shed and everything, he pulls around
Speaker 2: and he's looking at the shed and it just seemed odd.
Speaker 2: It was like it had been shifted, like it set
Speaker 2: oled or something during freestyle or something, and it just
Speaker 2: wasn't sitting right. So he goes over and he's inspecting,
Speaker 2: and of course he's armed.
Speaker 1: Right, it was late fall.
Speaker 2: He had just assumed there was no bears around, so
Speaker 2: he only brought a two seventy rifle and a forty
Speaker 2: four magnum, And it so happened that he only had
Speaker 2: three rounds for the forty four magnum because he forgot
Speaker 2: the rounds for it, and he had about a half
Speaker 2: a box of shelves for the two seventies and in
Speaker 2: two seventy was an old pump action open site rifle,
Speaker 2: which those are really good rifles anyway, So he goes
Speaker 2: over to the shed and.
Speaker 1: He got a spooky feeling.
Speaker 2: So he goes back over to the four wheeler, pops
Speaker 2: open one of the hatches where he had the forty
Speaker 2: four just cooled up in his holster in the belt
Speaker 2: and is kind of uncolled. Threw it over his shoulder
Speaker 2: or whatever, just to have it on him, because again,
Speaker 2: something was off when he walks over towards his shed,
Speaker 2: and he noticed that it looked like the back end
Speaker 2: of it was like had been impacted somehow, and so
Speaker 2: he's looking closer and he notices his weird kind of
Speaker 2: hairs on it. He was like, what the hell, oh,
Speaker 2: you know what, a bear must have come running through
Speaker 2: for some reason, spooped and smacked into it on his
Speaker 2: way by right just explaining it away. And so as
Speaker 2: he gets over it and he's looking a little closer
Speaker 2: and those are awfully long hairs for a bear, and
Speaker 2: just wrote it off at that, didn't worry about it anymore.
Speaker 2: Got some bottle jacks that he had out basically righted
Speaker 2: the way the shed was tilted right because it was
Speaker 2: up on blocks, and so he fixed that and then
Speaker 2: gets inside, goes through all this stuff. That night, he
Speaker 2: just kept feeling compelled to heap the light on outside right,
Speaker 2: which typically he didn't, but he just, for whatever reason, man,
Speaker 2: that light needs to be on. So he was far
Speaker 2: enough the generator, double checking the batteries, keeping the dual
Speaker 2: fifty watt high pressure sodium lamps on up on this
Speaker 2: little pole, and.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back.
Speaker 3: After the these messages.
Speaker 2: He said, anytime he would get relaxed at the table,
Speaker 2: he would just be drawn to go look up the curtains.
Speaker 2: He said, every time he looked out, there was a
Speaker 2: weird fog moving in. It was getting dense and more
Speaker 2: and more dense as the evening was carrying on.
Speaker 1: So he was so unnerved.
Speaker 2: He was compelled to make sure that the two seventy
Speaker 2: was loaded up. So he loaded up the rifle, make
Speaker 2: sure there's a round in it, safety was on. Decided
Speaker 2: I'm just going to shut things down. The battery bank
Speaker 2: was nice and topped off because over the years he
Speaker 2: had built it up and had relays and everything he
Speaker 2: needed to where he could just turn a switch and
Speaker 2: just use the battery power and not have to run
Speaker 2: the generator at all times. He had enough battery power
Speaker 2: to where he could run certain stuff for a certain
Speaker 2: amount of time with a cushion time, and so he
Speaker 2: shut down everything and he headed off to bed.
Speaker 1: He's in the back room. And again the back room.
Speaker 2: If you're facing the place, the door is now to
Speaker 2: the right hand side from where it was originally on
Speaker 2: the left, because this combined these two buildings into one,
Speaker 2: and so his is in the back corner from if
Speaker 2: you're standing in the front, you're looking at the door.
Speaker 2: Off your left would be that light post, the trail
Speaker 2: that wraps around the back this rise that goes up
Speaker 2: about twenty feet above from where you're standing.
Speaker 1: His bedroom was in that back corner.
Speaker 2: So he gets back in that bedroom, and he said
Speaker 2: he was so tired that like, he initially laid down
Speaker 2: and fell right asleep, but then something kept waking him up,
Speaker 2: waking him up, and he had laid down. He said,
Speaker 2: it had to have been between nine thirty and ten
Speaker 2: pm initially, and then all of a sudden, he hears
Speaker 2: this unnerving growl. He said, It was like the mix
Speaker 2: between the like what he would think a t rex
Speaker 2: would growl like in a brown bear, mixed kind of
Speaker 2: with a lion roar.
Speaker 1: It was like this very powerful, like this thing whatever.
Speaker 2: It was like right up against the building because the
Speaker 2: head of his bed was at that back corner, just
Speaker 2: offset a couple of feet.
Speaker 1: In the window.
Speaker 2: But it was like reverberating to the place where it
Speaker 2: shot the hell out of him. What the hell is
Speaker 2: making that noise? So immediately lights on. He turned the
Speaker 2: outside lights on, and he looks out the window.
Speaker 1: Of course, after he grabbed the rifle.
Speaker 2: He's holding the rifle, not pointing at no windows open
Speaker 2: or anything, but he's trying to look out and he's
Speaker 2: not seeing anything. He saw some darkness moving, but again
Speaker 2: he was just woken up and startled, so he wasn't
Speaker 2: sure what the hell. And he was like, damn that bear.
Speaker 2: It's got to be a bear.
Speaker 1: It hadn't hibernated.
Speaker 2: Something must be wrong with it, right, natural to assume
Speaker 2: bear didn't get enough for whatever, and it was a
Speaker 2: dangerous bear. So he sits there and he goes, I
Speaker 2: know what the lights on up front, I'm going to
Speaker 2: fire up the generator and that noise and everything and
Speaker 2: me moving around in here, it should get that bear
Speaker 2: to go, and if not, then hopefully it comes around
Speaker 2: in the light where I could see it better, and
Speaker 2: I'll just shoot the damn thing. And so he sits
Speaker 2: there at the table for a while, and he's got
Speaker 2: his gear ready to put on, and he keeps getting
Speaker 2: drawn over to the window looking out again, and there's
Speaker 2: this fog had only gotten thicker, more dense. His lights
Speaker 2: were right there, but it was so dense that it
Speaker 2: was like very eerie, very hard to see.
Speaker 1: And looking out.
Speaker 2: These front windows outside of that light post there and
Speaker 2: then over.
Speaker 1: The left that shed.
Speaker 2: He had cut back about sixty five feet on the
Speaker 2: slight downslope area before it turned into marsh and tundra
Speaker 2: and muskeg, and there were still black spruce right there,
Speaker 2: but there was a little alley ways that you could
Speaker 2: see out into the open tundra and the muskeg and stuff,
Speaker 2: but none of that you couldn't see.
Speaker 1: It was so dense, and so he's damn, it was
Speaker 1: just eerie.
Speaker 2: And so he sits down and after a little bit
Speaker 2: he realized he's falling asleep sitting at the table. All
Speaker 2: of a suddenly again he hears this growl, and this
Speaker 2: growl seemed to come from the same spot back by
Speaker 2: his bedroom where the head of his bed would be
Speaker 2: against the wall.
Speaker 1: There it reverberated to the whole place.
Speaker 2: Freaked him out right, and finally he's okay, I'm getting
Speaker 2: my gear on. I got to put this bear down.
Speaker 2: And then he's looking. He's like, shit, I only got
Speaker 2: three rounds of forty four.
Speaker 1: That's not enough.
Speaker 2: But I got two seventy rounds and the two seventy
Speaker 2: pump he had held like a had a little box
Speaker 2: magazine of four, and he could put one in the pipe.
Speaker 2: And so he figured, okay, five two seventies and three
Speaker 2: forty four rounds, I'll be able to do something with this.
Speaker 2: And so he sits there. He gets his courage built up,
Speaker 2: and he's I just want to put eyes on this
Speaker 2: bear first. So I had the advantage of flanking it
Speaker 2: and making a move on it versus it surprising me
Speaker 2: out of the blue somewhere right, he's thinking ahead. So
Speaker 2: Oscar's just sitting there, Okay, I got this. So he
Speaker 2: kept looking out the front window every once in a
Speaker 2: while and hoping this bear would come around, and so
Speaker 2: he ended up shutting off the generator to hopefully that
Speaker 2: killed the sound and draw the bear around front spark
Speaker 2: his curiosity or whatever. So he kills it, comes back up,
Speaker 2: shuts the trap door and all that, and then it's
Speaker 2: just sitting there and it would peek out the window
Speaker 2: every so often. And finally when about the third time,
Speaker 2: he said, about four minutes after killing the generator, because
Speaker 2: he was so amped at this point he couldn't fall
Speaker 2: asleep in good conscience, right, And so he said, about
Speaker 2: the third time, he looked out the window that thick fog,
Speaker 2: he saw this brown what he assumed was a bear
Speaker 2: just at the edge of the light source of the
Speaker 2: two fifty high pressure sodiums. He goes, okay, I got it.
Speaker 2: So he grabs a rifle. He's got the forty four
Speaker 2: ready to go as well. He gets that on the porch,
Speaker 2: and this thing had moved over right over by the shed,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it was like he thought
Speaker 2: it was leaning up against this what he still thought
Speaker 2: was a bear was leaning up against the shed, pawn
Speaker 2: at it or something. But that's because of the dense
Speaker 2: fog and everything, and the limited light. Even with his
Speaker 2: headlamp that he had on, he couldn't see much right
Speaker 2: because with the headlamp on he was seeing even less
Speaker 2: because it just turned everything white from the light illuminating
Speaker 2: all the fog particles and stuff. Right, So as soon
Speaker 2: as he clicked on the headlamp briefly and realized that
Speaker 2: he saw less, he turned it off. And at this
Speaker 2: point this thing had turned around right, and it wasn't
Speaker 2: a bear, but he didn't know what it was because
Speaker 2: it was hunched over.
Speaker 1: It was tall as that shed, but he could tell.
Speaker 2: It was punched down a little bit, and he was
Speaker 2: just taken back by the size of this thing. He said,
Speaker 2: it was very menacing. The whole energy was different. The
Speaker 2: dense fog was making it real hard to see this thing,
Speaker 2: but there was enough of the light illuminating penetrating through
Speaker 2: before he was catching eye shine every so often spradically
Speaker 2: when this scene would look over at him and back
Speaker 2: and forth. It was like, he said, it kept looking
Speaker 2: back and forth without moving its head. It was moving
Speaker 2: its eyes and he could see red eye shine every
Speaker 2: time the light was hitting it just right, and so
Speaker 2: it freaked him out, and so he raised the rifle
Speaker 2: and started yelling, hey guy, here, bear, get out of here.
Speaker 1: Bear.
Speaker 2: And again he knew it wasn't a bear, but that's
Speaker 2: all that came out in that moment. And so he
Speaker 2: starts coming down the steps to basically get a little
Speaker 2: closer because of how his port was set up. There's
Speaker 2: so much stuff there to use the railing for steadying
Speaker 2: the shot, but there's too much stuff like that he
Speaker 2: hadn't processed and put away yet in the way to
Speaker 2: where he couldn't use it as a rest. So he
Speaker 2: came down the steps and at the bottom of the
Speaker 2: steps there was a couple paul kNs of propane. He
Speaker 2: was gonna use one of those and grant you in
Speaker 2: the moment, he said, looking back, this probably wasn't the
Speaker 2: best idea, but it was what he was working with.
Speaker 1: And another thing was the propane tanks.
Speaker 2: He wanted to be closer to them and not risk
Speaker 2: accidentally shooting one of those.
Speaker 1: Right. Fair enough, he's spitballing in the moment.
Speaker 2: So when he gets down, this thing had already started running, right,
Speaker 2: and it wasn't running at him. It was running basically
Speaker 2: in between where the light post was in the corner
Speaker 2: of the house. It's literally right happening in front of him,
Speaker 2: and it is happening real fast, he said. He pops
Speaker 2: a shot and obviously missed right, and then pumps the
Speaker 2: action and swings, and as he swings, this thing had
Speaker 2: bumped his shoulder basically against this light post, and damn
Speaker 2: knocked it sideways a little bit.
Speaker 1: And one of the lights went out.
Speaker 2: And then he came around to get a better beat
Speaker 2: on it, and as it was just tearing off into
Speaker 2: the darkness and real hard to see, he put a
Speaker 2: shot right and he immediately heard the scream and the
Speaker 2: squill kind of sound, and then thrashing through the trees.
Speaker 1: Of the black out, the black spoos and everything.
Speaker 2: And he heard it and listened to it as it
Speaker 2: ran off, and his adrenaline jack he's pumped, his holy
Speaker 2: shit runs back inside, kills the outdoor light.
Speaker 1: He essentially hides out until.
Speaker 2: Morning, and then in the morning he shut everything down,
Speaker 2: had everything ready, He left a bunch of stuff there
Speaker 2: outside of his important stuff, hopped on his four wheeler
Speaker 2: and got out at first light. Even in the dense fog,
Speaker 2: it felt like he was being followed out. Fast forward,
Speaker 2: approximately four months, snow has fallen out there. He hadn't
Speaker 2: been back since he hadn't talked about it. He had
Speaker 2: tried to talk to his brother James about it. James
Speaker 2: didn't want to hear nothing about the property because he
Speaker 2: was still having issues of being denied access for so
Speaker 2: many years with the parents and whatnot. He was holding
Speaker 2: on to old stuff and Junior James Une, you're had
Speaker 2: caught wind that his uncle was excited about something that
Speaker 2: had happened over that way, and so he reached out, Hey,
Speaker 2: I want to get out there.
Speaker 1: Let's get out there, and.
Speaker 2: He goes, okay, I got to go out there anyway.
Speaker 2: I left some stuff. I got to make sure stuff
Speaker 2: put away. There's a bunch of stuff he left not
Speaker 2: tidied up, and so now snow's falling, it's going to
Speaker 2: be a chore, right, He's got to shovel stuff out
Speaker 2: and all that. So he's like, all right, nephew, come with,
Speaker 2: just be aware, come heavily armed. And nephew was like,
Speaker 2: Junior was like James. Junior was like, okay, I'll come
Speaker 2: heavily armed. What do we talk, What do you mean
Speaker 2: heavily armed? Be specific? And he goes, bring heavy firepower
Speaker 2: and extra ammuf fair enough, so Junior's ready.
Speaker 1: They go out. They had to go buy snow machine.
Speaker 2: They each had their own snow machine, and bringing a
Speaker 2: sled with them just added supply as a plan on being.
Speaker 1: Out there week. So they get out there.
Speaker 2: It's basically still fairly early in the morning because by
Speaker 2: that time in the winter the sun doesn't come up.
Speaker 2: Technical sunrise even right now, being mid January ish is
Speaker 2: technical sunrises at ten ten a little later in the
Speaker 2: day further north to go anyway. So they get there
Speaker 2: and it's just barely technical sunrise, but the fog is
Speaker 2: so dense that it's not burning off. It's kind of
Speaker 2: like a real heavily overcast kind of environment as far
Speaker 2: as the lighting. They get there and there's no signs
Speaker 2: of anything, just snow. There's plenty of snow. There are
Speaker 2: some moose tracks, some Lynx tracks on the way in.
Speaker 2: Nothing stood out right because his uncle kept slowing down
Speaker 2: looking and James Junior didn't understand in the moment why
Speaker 2: he his uncle was doing this. So they get there,
Speaker 2: they're shoveling stuff out. His uncle Oscar's just constantly head
Speaker 2: on a swivel, hadn't put his gun down yet, just
Speaker 2: making James Junior real nervous. Hey uncle, what the hell,
Speaker 2: he goes, Let's get this stuff done and then we'll
Speaker 2: go inside, warm up and stuff and explain what's going on.
Speaker 2: And so they have that agreement. They get things buttoned
Speaker 2: up where they could and what have you, and they
Speaker 2: get inside. Now when Junior gets in there and he's
Speaker 2: got his gear off and stuff, and his uncle was
Speaker 2: inside about fifteen minutes ahead of him, made coffee and
Speaker 2: some other stuff. He was just getting done and he
Speaker 2: sits down. His uncle tells him everything I've shared up
Speaker 2: to this point now, grant you, it's still not quite midday, okay,
Speaker 2: and nothing happens.
Speaker 1: They just hunkered down. It was mellow evening round.
Speaker 2: The generator topped off, the batteries, just kept it real mellow.
Speaker 2: James Junior his bedroom was all set up, had been
Speaker 2: that way. He had been there a couple times and whatnot,
Speaker 2: but it was there. He had his own space, his
Speaker 2: uncle had his own space. And they called it at
Speaker 2: night fairly early because they wanted to get up and
Speaker 2: ten to things in the morning. They were both woken
Speaker 2: up approximately between five point thirty six o'clock the next
Speaker 2: morning by that growl that what initially set everything off. Immediately,
Speaker 2: James Junior, he's up. He's got his high powered rifle.
Speaker 2: He had brought three thirty eight win mag He also
Speaker 2: brought an AR fifteen.
Speaker 1: He brought a nine millimeter.
Speaker 2: Pistol and a four to fifty four Cassole five shot revolver,
Speaker 2: and his uncle thirty out six more rounds for forty
Speaker 2: four and some Colt forty five pistol. Right, and so
Speaker 2: immediately they're up in arms, turn on lights, turn on
Speaker 2: the outside light. Only the one was still working. The
Speaker 2: other one would flicker on and off every once in
Speaker 2: a while because after the impact of this thing, they
Speaker 2: pulled wires or something and it wasn't all good. And
Speaker 2: so they're looking around nothing and that dense fog is
Speaker 2: still hanging in there, right, So they're up.
Speaker 1: They stay up for the rest of.
Speaker 2: The morning, and once it starts getting light out, they
Speaker 2: hear this, just this raven just quawking up a storm,
Speaker 2: and so they figure, okay, it's telling on whatever's out there.
Speaker 2: Let's get ready, let's go out there and let's get
Speaker 2: this thing. Let's ambush it, let's planket whatever, let's find it.
Speaker 2: Let's drive it out. And so they get out there,
Speaker 2: it will dense fog. Right as they're out there, they're
Speaker 2: looking around, they're looking this way, they're looking up towards
Speaker 2: that ridge on the back side of the cabin. They're
Speaker 2: looking over here, but it's so dense a fog they're
Speaker 2: not able to make anything out. And this raven is
Speaker 2: it's got to be right on top of that light pole,
Speaker 2: but they can't really see it. And it's real weird
Speaker 2: because they can make out the lights up there, but
Speaker 2: nothing else.
Speaker 1: It turns out this raven was a white.
Speaker 2: Raven, and when they finally realized, oh, that's a white raven,
Speaker 2: it really threw them off because they're at the Basket Descent,
Speaker 2: they're at the Basket and their heritage at the Basket
Speaker 2: Alaskan Native they're just thrown off by this white raven.
Speaker 1: This white raven.
Speaker 2: As the ceiling of the fog kind of ebbs and
Speaker 2: flows rises and lowers, it got to a point to
Speaker 2: where they could see it a little more clearly, and
Speaker 2: this thing is squawking directly at them and then takes
Speaker 2: off and flies straight away from them, and so they're like,
Speaker 2: what the hell that was creepy.
Speaker 1: So they get back inside.
Speaker 2: They start going over and rehashing what have they heard
Speaker 2: about the white raven?
Speaker 1: This and that?
Speaker 2: And they're going over, I've heard good and bad and
Speaker 2: same here and my culture, the ravens are considered our ancestors.
Speaker 2: And as far as a white raven, I've heard different things,
Speaker 2: but it was nothing that I retained, right, So they
Speaker 2: get amongst each other, they're going over the ins and
Speaker 2: outs of this white rave thing. Within the hour, way
Speaker 2: off in the distance, this thing flew away at they
Speaker 2: hear this long banshee, like high pitched but deep echoing
Speaker 2: air raid sirens scream right way off in the distance,
Speaker 2: had been miles and miles away just well, and they're
Speaker 2: both they were inside and they heard it, and they're
Speaker 2: like whoa looking out the windows, still real foggy. It
Speaker 2: hasn't burned off for nothing, And so they're like, damn.
Speaker 2: In about every hour ish they would hear this scream again,
Speaker 2: but it would be closer.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: It got to the point where once it seemed like
Speaker 2: it was within a mile of their guestimation because of
Speaker 2: how loud it had gotten and moving closer every hour,
Speaker 2: they got up in arms. They got dressed, they got
Speaker 2: the generators running, the batteries getting topped off. They're freaking out.
Speaker 2: Nothing happens, Nothing happens. They end up going to bed,
Speaker 2: so they were up a good part.
Speaker 1: Of the night.
Speaker 2: So they're sleeping and they're woken up by this raven
Speaker 2: squawking out front on that pole again.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more Sasquatch obs right back after
Speaker 3: the East messages.
Speaker 1: Junior gets up.
Speaker 2: He goes looks out the other window, the front window,
Speaker 2: and he can't see it because of the dense fog,
Speaker 2: and so his uncle's up.
Speaker 1: He's saying, oh, it's back at it, you know what
Speaker 1: the hell.
Speaker 2: They end up going outside together again, prepared to open
Speaker 2: fire on whatever, and there's nothing around.
Speaker 1: That they could see.
Speaker 2: But there's this raven again walking directly at them, just
Speaker 2: like the day before, and just takes off, flying in
Speaker 2: that same direction. They're like shit, but this time the
Speaker 2: difference is they're outside. This thing just flew away in
Speaker 2: the offento the fog. All they could do is hear it,
Speaker 2: and it's still squawking away as it's flying. Right Somewhere
Speaker 2: just sixty five ish feet from where they're standing is
Speaker 2: the tree line of the black spruce before it gets
Speaker 2: extra swampy and stuff up and behind there, they hear
Speaker 2: a scream coming from the stand of timbers right over there,
Speaker 2: right sixty five feet away, loud as hell.
Speaker 1: Felt it in their chest. Holy shit.
Speaker 2: Immediately they scurry back inside the button and all the doors,
Speaker 2: shutting everything, and they're discussing, what the hell do we do?
Speaker 1: What the hell do we do?
Speaker 2: Throughout that day, they kept hearing it, but it would
Speaker 2: move just out of sight in that fog. It was
Speaker 2: moving in a big circle around the cabin, from where
Speaker 2: it was in the stand of trees to up behind
Speaker 2: the cabin, up on that rise. They heard it up
Speaker 2: there several times throughout the day, back behind the shed
Speaker 2: where the shed was in between some couple of little
Speaker 2: stands of trees, but they couldn't see behind there because
Speaker 2: of the fog. It was back behind their screaming, and
Speaker 2: it basically circled all day. Every once in a while,
Speaker 2: they're screaming, right, they're freaking out of course, I get it,
Speaker 2: and they don't know what to do. And so it
Speaker 2: was getting dark. They had shut the generator off hours earlier,
Speaker 2: and whatnot. They had music playing, They had every device
Speaker 2: they had because initially when the scream stuff started.
Speaker 1: I don't want to overlook this.
Speaker 2: They tried to use in cell phones and his uncle
Speaker 2: had a little digital camera to try to get pictures
Speaker 2: and record some of this activity. But batteries were dead,
Speaker 2: and so they were charging everything. They were just wearing
Speaker 2: down the batteries, the battery bank, and so just at
Speaker 2: dusk it was getting dark, and he said his uncle
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna fire up the generator. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: add gas, I'm gonna fire it up for a few hours,
Speaker 2: top off the battery banks and let's get everything recharged
Speaker 2: and whatnot. And so he gets down in the crawl
Speaker 2: has a crawl space open. They've been carrying rifles with
Speaker 2: them the whole time. Okay, So his uncle left his
Speaker 2: rifle right there by the trap door on the floor
Speaker 2: and he's down below and he fires up the generator.
Speaker 2: Just as he fires up the generator at the back
Speaker 2: corner on that kitchen side, there was a bang. James
Speaker 2: Junior said, it sounded like something was lean like right
Speaker 2: up against the corner of the building and just banged
Speaker 2: about two feet away from where this window was and
Speaker 2: just banged. And then banged it again. It was just
Speaker 2: shaking the whole place. Uncle Oscar is down in that hole.
Speaker 2: He happened to have that forty five with him and
Speaker 2: a holster still on his belt, and he rolls up.
Speaker 1: He's like, what the hell.
Speaker 2: What James Junior couldn't hear was this thing was walking
Speaker 2: along the front of the place because they had the
Speaker 2: curtains and everything closing. James's over here at the table,
Speaker 2: right and the trap door is just right over here
Speaker 2: on the floor.
Speaker 1: As a thing is walking along. Uncle could hear it.
Speaker 2: And what it seemed like it was doing was thumping
Speaker 2: against the skirting, looking to see how if there was
Speaker 2: any weakness. There was thumping like it knew he was
Speaker 2: under there. Kind of feeling, is what Oscar said. And
Speaker 2: so once it got close, now the generator is running okay,
Speaker 2: And so he drew that forty five and started shooting
Speaker 2: through that siding because it was just doubled up or whatever,
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna do much damage, but he wanted to like
Speaker 2: make it known that, hey, we're going to shoot, right,
Speaker 2: So he starts shooting, startles a shit out of James Junior.
Speaker 2: He grabs his rifle, he runs over towards the window
Speaker 2: to look out. Just as he looks out, he can't
Speaker 2: see the lights because this big shadows in front of
Speaker 2: the window right in front of him, and the trap
Speaker 2: door off to his right on the floor. His uncles
Speaker 2: leaped out of there like a frog out of water,
Speaker 2: right jumps out of there, slams that chap door.
Speaker 1: He's grabbing the rifle.
Speaker 2: He's yelling, it's right outside, it's right outside. And James
Speaker 2: is trying to look and he's holding the rifle across
Speaker 2: his chest like this, looking out the window. All of
Speaker 2: a sudden, the thing moves out of in front of
Speaker 2: the window and they could see the light again.
Speaker 1: And then it made it clear.
Speaker 2: They could see the shoulder, and they all like the
Speaker 2: outline the silhouette, and they both like stumbled back freaking out.
Speaker 2: They're both pointing rifles in his uncles. Don't shoot the window.
Speaker 2: Don't shoot the window. And so they're sitting there and
Speaker 2: then it's dead quiet, right, and they heard noises. They
Speaker 2: heard the shed like basically claps over because when they
Speaker 2: looked the following morning, that whole shed that was where
Speaker 2: he kipp hearts and stuff for snow machine affom that
Speaker 2: whole thing was just poppled over. They heard that the
Speaker 2: way the wire was to the post, it was at
Speaker 2: least twelve feet off the ground running over to the
Speaker 2: post and ran upwards towards the top of this post
Speaker 2: where the two fifty watt high.
Speaker 1: Pressure sodium lamps were.
Speaker 2: He assumes this thing brushed its head, had hit the
Speaker 2: wire or whatever jilted things, and both lamps were working
Speaker 2: again right for whatever reason, they knew that much. But
Speaker 2: they were sitting on the floor and looking through the curtain.
Speaker 2: They could they seem in the light the other like
Speaker 2: come on through the curtain or whatever, and they just
Speaker 2: sat there. They were in shock, and so it's quiet
Speaker 2: and everything, and they pull themselves together.
Speaker 1: They sit back, they scoop back, they get up into
Speaker 1: the seats, and.
Speaker 2: They're both pointing their rifles around, just like what do
Speaker 2: we do kind of thing, looking at each other. Was
Speaker 2: out saying anything like shrugging the shoulders and like listening,
Speaker 2: and Oscars trying to say just listen. And finally Uncle
Speaker 2: Oscar says, hey, Junior, if it tries to come through
Speaker 2: the doors or whatever, just start shooting and get everything ready.
Speaker 2: So immediately, James Junior he's got his AR fifteen out.
Speaker 2: He's got all the extra magazines for that, just simple five,
Speaker 2: five six, regular carbing, all the other AMMO.
Speaker 1: For the pistol. Everything, it's all right there.
Speaker 2: Every gun and piece of bullet they got is ready
Speaker 2: right there at the table.
Speaker 1: They sat there and nothing.
Speaker 2: James Junior ended up fall asleep in the chair at
Speaker 2: the table, but Oscar couldn't sleep right all night. At
Speaker 2: one point James Junior was woken up by that same screen,
Speaker 2: but it was further distance away and they were able
Speaker 2: to calm down a little more.
Speaker 1: But Oscar didn't sleep.
Speaker 2: And so what he said is the next morning, when
Speaker 2: James started moving around, Oscar was real tired and said, Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm going to curl up on the floor by the woodstove.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a nap, but I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be back in that room alone or whatever.
Speaker 1: Just let me know if I need to get up.
Speaker 2: So he takes a nap for a couple hours before
Speaker 2: it gets light out right, and once he got a
Speaker 2: little bit of sleep as best he could anyway, a
Speaker 2: little cat nap here and there, he got up and
Speaker 2: he's get our shit together. We're getting out of here,
Speaker 2: so they gathered the pertinent stuff. They were not going
Speaker 2: to be hauling anything out or any of that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, because everything they brought was to stay there anyway.
Speaker 2: Uncle went down underneath and tended to the battery bank,
Speaker 2: shutting things down, isolating the batteries, just make sure everything
Speaker 2: was good. Shut the trap door, locked it up. Everything
Speaker 2: was good to go, and it was that dense fog
Speaker 2: as they were. They went out together, One kept eye
Speaker 2: out while the other one started the machines to let
Speaker 2: them warm up. They weren't going to leave them unattended
Speaker 2: because where they had initially parked them.
Speaker 1: One of the sleds was like twisted over it.
Speaker 2: They suspect when this thing ran by and knocked the shed,
Speaker 2: it had bumped that sled and just twisted the toe
Speaker 2: behind sled, not the snow machine sled and twisted that.
Speaker 2: And so they wanted to keep an eye to make
Speaker 2: sure this thing didn't trash their way out.
Speaker 1: And they sat there.
Speaker 2: Uncle was going in and out, just grabbing pertinent stuff,
Speaker 2: double checking everything, asking James what he needed. And James
Speaker 2: already had his shit into the sled was unmolested or whatever.
Speaker 1: He had his extra rifle Emma and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 2: He had his three p thirty eight wind mag over
Speaker 2: his shoulder and a pistol in his hand, and things
Speaker 2: were warmed up.
Speaker 1: Everything got locked up.
Speaker 2: Just as they were talking about what they're going to
Speaker 2: do on keeping an eye on each other on the
Speaker 2: trail out, they heard the raven. The white raven was
Speaker 2: back on the pole, squawking away at him right, and
Speaker 2: the fog had lifted enough and it was not quite
Speaker 2: as dense where they could see this thing clearly. And
Speaker 2: they both said, it is the biggest raven they ever seen.
Speaker 2: For a raven, that was massive. It reminded him of
Speaker 2: the size of a like a snowy owl or a
Speaker 2: great horned owl. It was big, but it was a raven,
Speaker 2: they said. Even its beak was an opaque kind of
Speaker 2: hail color. It didn't have like black beady eyes like
Speaker 2: the regular ravens and stuff. It had all white feathers
Speaker 2: like Christine white. And this thing was a squalling at him,
Speaker 2: like screaming at him the whole time.
Speaker 1: And finally that was it. They're creeped out, and Oscar
Speaker 1: was like, follow.
Speaker 2: My lead as we turn around. But once we get
Speaker 2: turned around, on the trail. I want you ahead of
Speaker 2: me so I could see that you're okay. I'm going
Speaker 2: to be right behind you running my snow machine with
Speaker 2: my pistol in my hand, and you just worry about
Speaker 2: driving your sled and once we get a mile or
Speaker 2: two down, the trail will swap and we'll leap frog
Speaker 2: doing it that way.
Speaker 1: And so that's what they did.
Speaker 2: But just as they're turning around to leave, that raven
Speaker 2: just started really flapping, squawking, screaming, and then took offline again.
Speaker 2: And just as they were getting like turn around, squared
Speaker 2: up to go, they're double checking, giving thumbs up and stuff,
Speaker 2: that scream happened again, way off in the distance like
Speaker 2: it had the day before, and what have you. They
Speaker 2: got out of there. That's where that ended. I've heard
Speaker 2: things about the white Raven, bad almend, good amend. I've
Speaker 2: heard different versions of it. So I can't really speak
Speaker 2: to that because i'd have nothing definitive.
Speaker 1: But I will check into that.
Speaker 2: But Oscar and James are not their names, Okay, that's anonymity,
Speaker 2: And the exact location is irrelevant when I share these encounters.
Speaker 2: Sometimes the location is very important. Other times and every time.
Speaker 2: It's the behaviors leading up to an encounter that if
Speaker 2: you know what these behaviors are, maybe you can avoid
Speaker 2: it yourself by going hey, ols, don't who like that?
Speaker 2: Or Hey some stone rock, let's get out of here
Speaker 2: and avoid potential traumatic ship. Thanks to everyone who has
Speaker 2: reached out, and we'll catch you on the next one.
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