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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Police say that sixty five people now were injured when

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<v Speaker 2>a car ran into a crowd of Liverpool soccer fans

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<v Speaker 2>pay here, say liberals celebrating their team's Premier League championship.

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<v Speaker 2>Eleven are still in the hospital as of today, or

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<v Speaker 2>as they say in England, they are still in hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Assistant Chief Constable of Mary's Merseyside Police said the patients

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<v Speaker 2>are all stable. Fifty of the casualties did require hospital treatment.

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<v Speaker 2>They have arrested a fifty three year old man on

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<v Speaker 2>suspicion of attempted murder. At this point, they said, he

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<v Speaker 2>is being held on suspicion of dangerous driving, driving on drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>but at this point not a terrorist act.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump now says Putin is playing with fire. This after

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<v Speaker 1>his comments Trump's comments over the weekend that Putin is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely crazy crazy in all caps, things are getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little hostile. It's where we kick off swamp watch.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,

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<v Speaker 3>and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops

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<v Speaker 3>we got. The real problem is that our leaders are done.

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<v Speaker 4>The other side never quits.

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<v Speaker 5>So what I'm not going anywhere. So now Ukraine the.

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<v Speaker 4>Squat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened

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<v Speaker 4>by what has been. You know, Americans have always been

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<v Speaker 4>gone at president, but they're not stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp watch, they're

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<v Speaker 4>all counter knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, something weird is happening on the whole truth social thing.

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<v Speaker 4>But okay, because of the president.

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<v Speaker 2>And his what's happening, Well, so let's explain what's President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is unhappy with Vladimir Putin and made it so

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<v Speaker 2>made it right.

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<v Speaker 1>Moscow continues to batter Ukraine. Trump is in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to get together a peace deal to end

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<v Speaker 1>the war, and Putin's been kind of telling Trump what

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to hear, playing a foot seat with him

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<v Speaker 1>by the same token, and at the same time attacking Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 1>So today Trump accused Putin of, in his words, playing

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<v Speaker 1>with fire. He wrote in Truth Social late this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't

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<v Speaker 1>for me, lots of really bad things would have already

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<v Speaker 1>happened to Russia, and I mean really bad ball caps.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing with fire. This is a big change in

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration's approach to the Kremlin. This, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this comes on the heels of the administration blaming Zelensky

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<v Speaker 1>for triggering the war between Russia and Ukraine. And he

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to kind of one eighty that whole bit yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>and called Putin absolutely crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>This was him just off of Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not happy with what Putin's doings, killing a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, and I don't know what the hell happened

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<v Speaker 3>to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten

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<v Speaker 3>along with them. But he's sending rockets into cities and

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<v Speaker 3>killing people, and I don't like it at all. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets

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<v Speaker 3>and Tikiev and other cities.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't like it at all.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>This was one of the deadliest attacks in months that

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<v Speaker 1>he's referencing. It happened over the weekend. At least twelve

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<v Speaker 1>people were killed in a combined drone and missile attack

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<v Speaker 1>it struck over thirty Ukrainian cities. This also coincided with

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<v Speaker 1>the largest prisoner swap since the start of the invasion

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine in twenty twenty two. So this was the

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<v Speaker 1>exchange of one thousand prisoners the same day as Russia's

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<v Speaker 1>massive attack. So Trump was like taking a victory lap

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<v Speaker 1>over that. Right, this is a huge diplomatic breakthrough. I

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<v Speaker 1>was involved with brokering this prisoner swap. I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal here. And then Putin turns around and attacks Ukraine

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what hundreds of drones and missiles and there's again.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump has every reason to not be happy with it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then do something about it. Don't just complain that

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<v Speaker 2>your friend is letting you down or embarrassing you. Do

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<v Speaker 2>something about it. Now, I said, something weird is happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican Senator Chuck Grassley out of Iowa is trying to

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<v Speaker 2>I guess out Trump Trump in his social media posts,

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<v Speaker 2>because what he said is this is this morning on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe President Trump no capitals, was sincere when he

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<v Speaker 2>thought his friendship w Putin wld end the war with

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<v Speaker 2>friendship with Putin would end the war again. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if he's trying to text like he's doing this

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<v Speaker 2>on purpose, or if he's just screwing it up. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that being the case, all caps, it's time for sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>strong enough nuf so Putin knows game over.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he doing this because he thinks that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>catch Donald Trump's eye.

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<v Speaker 1>He thinks he's speaking Trump's language.

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<v Speaker 4>Happening, what's going on on Trump's playing field.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to that end, the Senate has a brew has

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<v Speaker 2>put together I shouldn't say approved a package of sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>that already has overwhelming support, like eighty plus senators are

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<v Speaker 2>supporting this new paction, a package of sanctions against Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>including a five hundred percent tariff on imports from any

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<v Speaker 2>nation that purchases Russian oil, petroleum products, natural gas, or uranium.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not just the sanction on Russia, but the

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<v Speaker 2>sanctions on countries that continue to do business with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a problem. Trump does business with Russia, his

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<v Speaker 1>family does business with Russia. He is well entrenched in

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<v Speaker 1>Russian banks. That's where they get a lot of their

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<v Speaker 1>funding and have for a long time. And you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to follow the money, and it's not financially advantageous for

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and his family and his brand to pick a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with Vladimir Putin.

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<v Speaker 4>It is not.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that's also happened is Germany's new

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<v Speaker 2>chancellor has lifted any range restrictions the weapons that we've

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<v Speaker 2>been giving to Ukraine. We've been telling them, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>can use them, but you've got to do them defensively

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<v Speaker 2>or not too far into Russia if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>use them as offensive weapons. And now Germany's Chancellor, Friedrich

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<v Speaker 2>Friedrich thinks how you say it, Merz has said there

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<v Speaker 2>are no restrictions on the range. Kremlin doesn't like that

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<v Speaker 2>because they say that leaves us no other option but

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<v Speaker 2>to go nuclear if necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>Nearly ten years ago, when we met Anthony Wiener in

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia at the DNC, it was after his first fall

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<v Speaker 1>from grace. He was persona on grata there and he

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<v Speaker 1>pulled up a chair and we did an interview with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said to him, if I remember correctly, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you going to do now? You need the

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<v Speaker 1>attention because he does. You know, people like this, the

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<v Speaker 1>people that need at ten he wasn't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>standing around with his literal genitals in his hand. For

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<v Speaker 1>very long. He had his second fall from grace shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after that conversation, when he was caught sending pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>his genitals with his son in the frame to college

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<v Speaker 1>girls in the Midwest. Now, Anthony Wiener, still needing attention,

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<v Speaker 1>is back trying to what was the headline soft launch

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<v Speaker 1>his comeback.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll tell you all about it.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you make an appointment to go see somebody like

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<v Speaker 1>a GP or something just for fun, just because we

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<v Speaker 1>thought it'd be something fun to do for the show.

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<v Speaker 4>No, oh, I thought you.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there was movement on that, just to check

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<v Speaker 1>things out to scale, blood work done.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not fun for the summer. Fun for the summer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that sounds like fun.

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<v Speaker 1>What don't you think you should just get things looked at.

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<v Speaker 2>For baseline stuff. Yes, I'm probably it's probably a good

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<v Speaker 2>idea to do it. My PSA numbers are very very low,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's so thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your public service announcement.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my prostate specific antigen numbers, oh very low.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you take those? Do I take them? You take?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what your numbers are?

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<v Speaker 2>When I last time I had my blood check. Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>so you do get your blood checked. I have had

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<v Speaker 2>my blood checked. I don't ask yet. It's been four years,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's that's okay. Four years is acceptable. I was

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<v Speaker 2>in my forties, then, is that okay?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think you know a little baseline checking from

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<v Speaker 1>here and there, baseline checking. You have a history of

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<v Speaker 1>heart disease in your family. I also have a history

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<v Speaker 1>of prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 4>My fan, Right, so do you know this song.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang on devor do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to do it right now?

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<v Speaker 4>We have a corrections and retractions.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's not dead, No, no, he is, he is.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know I I quickly I grabbed the story

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, sloppy, Well, it looks like sloppy when

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<v Speaker 1>you were on Sloppy, but it's you're too young, too young,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you, because I the only reason I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that song. I know the song really well

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad listened to oldies driving us into school,

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<v Speaker 1>So I know all the music of the fifties and

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<v Speaker 1>sixties down ass. Okay, my brother and I can do

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<v Speaker 1>a real fun karaoke.

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<v Speaker 4>Of those times.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, thank you for allowing me to us on

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<v Speaker 1>the song, you know, save some face kind of You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>We want you to be the best deb brother that

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<v Speaker 4>you can be. Oh, thank you. Somebody's got yes exactly. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>do you remember this whole thing? Do you remember? You

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<v Speaker 4>remember Anthony wien Er? Did you send the tweet? Is

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<v Speaker 4>that a photograph of you? And why not call for

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<v Speaker 4>an investigator?

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, answers, I did not, and that I hate that.

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<v Speaker 4>I know what a system was hacked. I was pranktical.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fairly common one.

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<v Speaker 4>People make fun of my name all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>When your name Wiener, you kind of get that, Is

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<v Speaker 1>that right?

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<v Speaker 4>Right? I don't remember the timeline on this. Let me see.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you ask him if you could see his phone

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<v Speaker 4>to see when I look through the pictures on your phone?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, if you want to see a lot of pictures

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<v Speaker 5>of Jordan.

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<v Speaker 4>And my son, Yeah, that's all we have. You're letting

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<v Speaker 4>me down.

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<v Speaker 5>You are clearly not you. It's found. It has been

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<v Speaker 5>a long time since you had a four and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>Ye all that is like some aces stuff aces aces,

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<v Speaker 5>it's aces.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that he's calling me old when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like thirty four ish, not even thirty four years

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<v Speaker 1>old at that time. Like I get playing the old card,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't know what it's like to have a

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half year old running around if you're

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<v Speaker 1>like sixty, But like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>This was and that that portion of the interview or

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<v Speaker 2>that portion of an interview came from the twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. And again you mentioned he

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<v Speaker 2>was persona and on Grada. He was walking around the wells.

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo, sew salmon colored pants, like like J Crew salmon

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't have a body person nothing. He was just

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<v Speaker 1>naked walking around there basically. And so I I time

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<v Speaker 1>has made me love that interview even more.

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<v Speaker 4>This was him a little bit later.

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<v Speaker 1>What's next for you? I mean, you've got to get

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<v Speaker 5>Are going to miss the how do I possibly? I

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<v Speaker 5>was gonna say, you're gonna miss the attention KF I

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<v Speaker 5>am six forty with with the Gary and Channon show.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm totally this is it. I've peaked at great question

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<v Speaker 5>kind of. Now I do one of those trips where

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<v Speaker 5>then and that.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it very similar, very similar to being on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what he went on to do was

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<v Speaker 1>completely sandbag that election for Hillary Clinton with the help

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<v Speaker 1>of Debbie Wasserman. I mean, between the two big stories

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<v Speaker 1>that broke that week or the week after for him,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that the fact that Bernie Sanders people were

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<v Speaker 4>Shut out, shut out.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that couple crying, the Bernie Sanders couple that

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<v Speaker 2>we met on the street and we were asking them

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<v Speaker 2>about what I mean, You guys are in Philly.

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<v Speaker 4>You thought this might be it. There was a chance

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<v Speaker 4>that you guys would They.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt succeeded, and they were, they were Those were valid feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me remind you that of the three of us

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<v Speaker 2>that were sitting at that table that day, you me,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Wiener, only one of us is a registered sex offender. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know everything, right, I can guarantee that one

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<v Speaker 2>of us is not a registered sex offender. I am

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<v Speaker 2>not registered sex offenders.

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<v Speaker 1>He is running, guys, He's running for New York City Council.

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<v Speaker 1>He that was a fifteen year old He was texting

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<v Speaker 1>college co ed all the time that he's sexting, not

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<v Speaker 1>the case a fifteen thirteen year old.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lord, again, it happened that story came out weeks

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<v Speaker 1>Can I look through the pictures on your phone?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Could you imagine ladies who trust your gut? Anthony Wiener

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<v Speaker 2>running for New York City Council six years after he

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<v Speaker 2>was released from his twenty one month stay behind bars

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<v Speaker 2>for sexting a fifteen year old.

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<v Speaker 4>He was last.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen on the streets of New York with a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of flyers, with a woman holding a campaign sign, talking

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<v Speaker 2>to a mother with a small child, hugging an older woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it Is it interesting that all of these are

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<v Speaker 4>Are women are more more for giving?

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<v Speaker 1>Although you know, I can't believe I asked him that question.

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<v Speaker 4>The show was pretty new then too.

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<v Speaker 1>Had we already been screwed over by Richard Dreyfus was

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<v Speaker 1>being polite to people?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe maybe I was maybe that was not about the milk,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it was about Richard us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that was pretty Uh, that was pretty prickly

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<v Speaker 1>of me to say that to him.

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<v Speaker 2>This was also late in the week, if I remember correct,

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday or Thursday.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so we're gamy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you started wearing the same clothes day after day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was like Wednesday and Thursday. You did

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<v Speaker 2>the same outfit and and you had Philly cheese steak

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<v Speaker 2>remsans on your shirt or as they say, blouse.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you ironed every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not true, that was the second half. Remember they

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<v Speaker 2>lost our luggage, so we had the hotel had to

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<v Speaker 2>do the laundry for us, and they were earn my

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was very impressive that you had ironed

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<v Speaker 1>all your clothes every day.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sweet considering once you step out of the uber

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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred degree heat and rain.

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<v Speaker 4>It's broken. All of that is gone.

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<v Speaker 2>His By the way, the person running against him is

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<v Speaker 2>a woman named Sarah Batchu. She proposed a bill nicknamed

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<v Speaker 2>the Wiener Act a couple of months ago that would

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<v Speaker 2>ban registered sex offenders from holding any public.

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<v Speaker 4>Office in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that not already a law.

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<v Speaker 4>That was great and called it the Wiener Act.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great. We should you know what we should

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<v Speaker 1>get them on? Nope, yes we should, we should. We shall,

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<v Speaker 1>I say we shall, we shall. Let's see the words.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh yeah, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Young men calling nine to one one heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Attack or panic attack? Heart attack, panic attack.

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<v Speaker 1>Panic attacks are scary and it does feel like something

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<v Speaker 1>is really wrong. But these are I'm assuming these are

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<v Speaker 1>young people that are yep, yeah, okay, yep. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple cups of coffee too much. Maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>an actual panic attack. Toxidrome, it has a name.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I didn't want to look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the hospital with that too.

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<v Speaker 4>But that was legit. Your heart was literally racist, Yeah

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<v Speaker 4>it was.

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<v Speaker 6>But come on, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on

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<v Speaker 1>Cassie Ventura is going into labor. Oh really, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like that she left the courtroom for the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Very dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Sources to TMZ, you say Cassie was rushed to the

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<v Speaker 1>a unit. As we know, she was very pregnant, so

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<v Speaker 1>as you can as you know, if you've made a baby,

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<v Speaker 1>if you had a baby, sometimes stress We'll move along

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<v Speaker 1>the process, and how could this not be stressful. She

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<v Speaker 1>has showed up to court for four straight days for

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<v Speaker 4>She has two other kids too, by her current husband.

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know, that is I do not know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, we'll do true crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, when we get to twelve thirty, there's

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Men are about half as likely to be diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 2>an anxiety disorder compared to women. I'm going to repeat

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<v Speaker 2>that because that surprised me. Men about half as likely

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<v Speaker 2>to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder compared to women.

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<v Speaker 2>And then this study out of Australia suggests that some

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<v Speaker 2>men feel pressure to be fearless to hide their emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>Others simply don't understand or have the language to describe

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<v Speaker 2>the symptoms of the anxieties that they feel. Your face

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<v Speaker 2>is their emotional language is weak, shall we say?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>This means that boys grow up believing that their male

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<v Speaker 2>role models don't get anxious. They don't see dad or

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa or their uncle get anxious. True, so they themselves,

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<v Speaker 2>if they feel anxious, think that something is wrong with them.

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<v Speaker 4>I can see that.

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<v Speaker 2>So then you start this biofeedback loop where you start

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<v Speaker 2>convincing yourself, googling prep did I feel Did I.

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<v Speaker 4>Just have a heart attack?

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<v Speaker 2>I might have just had a heart attack, And then

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<v Speaker 2>you start getting nervous about it. You develop these symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>in yourself and you call nine to one one. This

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<v Speaker 2>story actually looked at, or, I should say, the study

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the notes of paramedics who treated men between

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<v Speaker 2>the ages end boys between fifteen and twenty five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred of them, and they said men are encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about anxiety. They can describe various challenges like

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<v Speaker 2>repetitive worries, feeling out of control, and in many cases,

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<v Speaker 2>intense physical symptoms high rate of heart beats, shortness of breath,

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<v Speaker 2>body pains, tremors, and headaches. One study said that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times anxious men will call the ambulance, specifically

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<v Speaker 2>younger men will call the ambulance. They said, many young

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<v Speaker 2>men turn to ambulances in crisis. Anxiety accounts for ten

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think this is happening? Is it being

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<v Speaker 1>reported more or what have you? Because this is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>new that men don't talk about their emotions. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a new generation type of a thing. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there something making men more anxious? Is it the loneliness

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<v Speaker 1>thing where men aren't talking to other men or really

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<v Speaker 1>anybody else? I think maybe they go hand in hand

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<v Speaker 1>if if men, because well the diamond does in the

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<v Speaker 1>stays that say, young men are lonelier now than they

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<v Speaker 1>have been for whatever reason. Maybe it's they're isolating more.

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<v Speaker 1>They and because they're isolating more, they're not talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people face to face. Talking to people face to face

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<v Speaker 1>can definitely ease anxiety. Friendships, things like that, just getting

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<v Speaker 1>things off your chest or what have You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to sit down and have like major conversations about feelings

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<v Speaker 1>and emotions. Just talking to somebody about your day or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think goes a long way in that regard. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you're isolating and you don't have that outlet. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's where more anxiety would come in. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>young men aren't getting married. I think that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>our grandparents got married when they were what twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. So even if they're not having these like

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<v Speaker 2>Should be Yeah, there are three things that they refer to.

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<v Speaker 2>Bodily symptoms, onset of bodily symptoms, that is very quick.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the things that it kind of is

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<v Speaker 2>that self fulfilling prophecy. You start to think, why are

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of convinces your body to follow through with

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>The mind is so powerful, especially at least I found

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<v Speaker 1>for personally, if I think I'm having anxiety or a

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<v Speaker 1>all the way to the goal line with it and

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<v Speaker 4>With trophy winning run on rade to the end zone.

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<v Speaker 2>They also say that severe anxiety is very often triggered

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<v Speaker 2>or worsened by substance abuse. Yes that if you start

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<v Speaker 2>to feel yourself I need something to calm myself down.

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<v Speaker 4>That actually can work against you in terms of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Will do it will bomb you down right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to deal with that the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>The anxiety does not go away. In fact, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>stop drinking because the next day and somebody else's famous,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh on the Housewives, it's her name, Kyle Richards.

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<v Speaker 1>She felt so much anxiety after she went out for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever chemical reaction that had, it was manifesting an anxiety.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple of girlfriends same thing. They stopped

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<v Speaker 1>having those nights out and drinking to excess that anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>went away.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's two other things, and they don't point out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when you get older, the way your body

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<v Speaker 1>handles a hangover.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it could just be different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different than the headache and the right sensitivity to brightness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably a more mental right. There are two things

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<v Speaker 2>that are not in the study that I would say

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<v Speaker 2>probably have an impact on it. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>they would be able to quantify it because of the

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<v Speaker 2>way they did this study. But lack of physical movement,

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<v Speaker 2>like young men aren't exercising the ways that.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to, also makes you feel good and totally

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<v Speaker 1>decreases any sort of anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, But and then a sort of an offshoot of that,

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<v Speaker 2>or that may be a symptom of the bigger problem,

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<v Speaker 2>which is we're not teaching people how to deal with anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>We've not told them, Hey, there are things that you

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<v Speaker 2>can do to maintain a consistent outlet.

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<v Speaker 4>Moving around, like moving around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or if you do start to feel that way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it may not be prophylactic. You may not

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<v Speaker 2>be able to run five miles a day just to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of calm your brain down, but it may require.

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<v Speaker 4>You to get up off the couch.

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<v Speaker 2>If you start to feel that way, go do something physical,

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<v Speaker 2>Do something that's outside of your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 4>Just a walk, even just a walk, walk the dog,

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<v Speaker 4>or if.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have a dog, walk yourself, put a leash

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<v Speaker 2>around your own neck.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that gets into a little bit of stress. Weird suicide, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's been a couple of those.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, up next, we told you about these mountain climbers.

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<v Speaker 2>They were trying to make it to Everest, to the

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<v Speaker 2>top and back and record time.

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<v Speaker 4>They did it. They certainly did well. They have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of money. And here's the other thing. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>the key is.

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<v Speaker 2>Actual mountain climbers are saying they should be banned from mountain.

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<v Speaker 1>They should and everyone who's publicizing it, including us, although

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do a responsible job, it is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>problem because how many people will read or hear this

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<v Speaker 1>story and be like.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, if I could do it, I could do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they go up there and they die and

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<v Speaker 1>they put rescuers at risk.

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<v Speaker 4>Who was that this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the guy that thinks he could go up

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<v Speaker 1>about without any training.

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<v Speaker 4>He also has a cold apparently, I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 4>just met him. Gary and shann will continue.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 6>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration is asking federal agencies to cancel contracts

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<v Speaker 2>with Harvard worth about one hundred million dollars. This intensifies

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<v Speaker 2>the fight between the president and the oldest and wealthiest

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<v Speaker 2>university in America. The government already canceled more than two

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<v Speaker 2>point six billion in federal research grants for Harvard. Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>has pushed back on the President's demands for changes to.

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<v Speaker 4>Several of its policies.

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<v Speaker 2>A very bad day in Gaza, which is there have

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<v Speaker 2>been many lately, but chaos erupted on the second day

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<v Speaker 2>of aid operations by a new US backed group there.

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinians completely overwhelmed the center that is distributing food today,

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<v Speaker 2>breaking through fences. Nearby Israeli troops had to fire warning

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<v Speaker 2>shots and then setting people run in the opposite way

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<v Speaker 2>and panic. The Israeli military later said the situation was

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<v Speaker 2>brought under control, but at least three Esthenians were injured

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<v Speaker 2>in what was supposed to be a food distribution.

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<v Speaker 1>For British men, who we talked about a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>ago when we heard about their plan, have shrunken the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline dramatically when it comes to climbing Mount Everest, traveling

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<v Speaker 1>from London to the summit and back in less than

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<v Speaker 1>a week.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>While this does make the news, it is a stupid, foolish,

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<v Speaker 1>fatal plan. In nine point nine out of ten cases

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<v Speaker 1>they skipped the acclamation time the adjustment period by inhaling

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<v Speaker 1>xenon gas, which the jury still out on that. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I said when we talked about their plan

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<v Speaker 1>and what they thought would be their secret weapon and

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<v Speaker 1>xenon gas that to your point before it's all mental.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the scientists said that it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to have any effect, maybe detrimental if anything, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you think you have a secret weapon, that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>go a long way, well physically and mentally.

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<v Speaker 2>So scientifically, they say they don't know exactly how this

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<v Speaker 2>is supposed to work that they have shown. Xenon has

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<v Speaker 2>been known for years to activate a molecule called the

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<v Speaker 2>hypoxia inducible factor. It's also turned on when people acclimate

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<v Speaker 2>to low oxygen. So what these people claim to have

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<v Speaker 2>done is found a way to switch on the adaptation

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<v Speaker 2>to the low oxygen levels, because obviously you're at such

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<v Speaker 2>an altitude twenty six thousand feet that there is very

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<v Speaker 2>little oxygen up there. If you're climbing the regular way,

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<v Speaker 2>you're taking supplemental oxygen with you but still suffering the

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<v Speaker 2>effects of low oxygen. What these guys did was ten

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<v Speaker 2>weeks before the expedition, they started sleeping in hypoxic tents

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<v Speaker 2>that lowers the oxygen levels in the air would acclimatize

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<v Speaker 2>them to the conditions. Instead of what many other people do,

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<v Speaker 2>which is travel to the mountain and gradually make your

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<v Speaker 2>way up, as you know, a week at this level

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<v Speaker 2>and then go up in another week at that level,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a climber, or if you've even seen the

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<v Speaker 1>major motion picture Everest the way that I have so

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<v Speaker 1>very base, rudimentary knowledge of this, you have to have

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<v Speaker 1>respect for the mountain. You have to have respect for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who came before, who the people who know

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<v Speaker 1>the mountain. It's all about that, really, and this seems

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<v Speaker 1>to fly in the face of that. And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just this group of guys. They plan to keep on

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. Lucas Furtenbach is the guy who organized the exhibition,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says that this group showed that it can work,

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<v Speaker 1>and that beginning next year he plans to offer two

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<v Speaker 1>week round trip excursions to Mount Everest using the Xenon gas,

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<v Speaker 1>cutting the typical time needed to scale the mountain by

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<v Speaker 1>several weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what he's going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>That he's going to make an s ton of money

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<v Speaker 1>right out of the gate, and people are gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say, even if he ends up

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<v Speaker 2>pulling bodies off of that mountain.

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<v Speaker 4>He's gonna bee, He's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna pull him off. You just leave him up there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>So Furtenbach says that that summit took less than three days,

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<v Speaker 2>which was one of the fastest times for a group

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<v Speaker 2>that had not actually acclimatized on the mountain itself. The

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<v Speaker 2>record goes to, thankfully, a sherpa who did it in

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<v Speaker 2>just under eleven hours. What was that guy running eleven hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Lak Pa Gelu is one of the sherpas that supposedly

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<v Speaker 2>holds the record for that eleven hour climb. But the

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<v Speaker 2>rapid climb by this British group and the use of

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<v Speaker 2>the xenon has caught the eye of the Nepalese government.

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<v Speaker 2>They are potentially looking at regular I mean, they regulate

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<v Speaker 2>who goes in and out of Everest, and the Nepalese

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<v Speaker 2>government may do what they can to prevent tourists like

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<v Speaker 2>that from doing things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder also, and I don't know because I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>in any of the online forums with master climbers, but

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<v Speaker 1>if it's kind of like an asterisk climb, if you

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<v Speaker 1>use xenon gas, jury still out A lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe it does anything. It could be to your detriment.

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<v Speaker 1>It could help you out. But is that like a

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<v Speaker 1>Barry Bond's home run record situation where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>to use the xenon gap, then you didn't really climb Everest, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's got to be an ever purest population that's

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<v Speaker 1>just like no, unless you do it the right way

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<v Speaker 1>and do it the way that you should do it

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<v Speaker 1>and acclimate and all the things, you're not really doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. He I mean, you made a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the luxuries of having disposable income

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<v Speaker 2>like this, where you can spend ten weeks in a

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<v Speaker 2>hypoxic tent. Yeah, and then pay an anesthesiologist to infuse your.

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<v Speaker 4>Mask with xenon gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Another ask, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>He claims.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, Furtenbach claims that they still used shirpas, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a requirement based on the Nepalese government, that shorter times

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<v Speaker 2>on the mountain were safer because it reduces the chance

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<v Speaker 2>that the climbers would be exposed to other health threats,

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<v Speaker 2>things like avalanches or the hypothermia or the very common

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<v Speaker 2>fall on Everest. And he said if the World Anti

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<v Speaker 2>Doping Agency, which I guess has somehow has say over this.

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<v Speaker 2>If they do prohibit it, it wouldn't apply to mountaineering

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<v Speaker 2>because it's not a regulated competitive sport, but that they

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<v Speaker 2>may take may make xenon gas illegal when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to other sporting competitions.

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<v Speaker 1>So, well, look at that? Would you look at that?

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<v Speaker 1>It is noon o'clock? Well nearly. Can you believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>already at noon?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, it feels like it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It does.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I feel like the day is flying by.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry? That was you? You know, I give you a.

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<v Speaker 1>Week off almost I appreciate from me, thank you? And

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<v Speaker 1>this is and this is how you have So for.

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<v Speaker 4>All of the R and R race next week, it's

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<v Speaker 1>So work on being a little bit more fake.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll see what I can do.

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