Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
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Speaker 2: Police say that sixty five people now were injured when
Speaker 2: a car ran into a crowd of Liverpool soccer fans
Speaker 2: pay here, say liberals celebrating their team's Premier League championship.
Speaker 2: Eleven are still in the hospital as of today, or
Speaker 2: as they say in England, they are still in hospital.
Speaker 2: Assistant Chief Constable of Mary's Merseyside Police said the patients
Speaker 2: are all stable. Fifty of the casualties did require hospital treatment.
Speaker 2: They have arrested a fifty three year old man on
Speaker 2: suspicion of attempted murder. At this point, they said, he
Speaker 2: is being held on suspicion of dangerous driving, driving on drugs,
Speaker 2: but at this point not a terrorist act.
Speaker 1: Trump now says Putin is playing with fire. This after
Speaker 1: his comments Trump's comments over the weekend that Putin is
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy crazy in all caps, things are getting a
Speaker 1: little hostile. It's where we kick off swamp watch.
Speaker 3: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
Speaker 3: and when I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing that lollipops
Speaker 3: we got. The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 4: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere. So now Ukraine the.
Speaker 4: Squat, I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
Speaker 4: by what has been. You know, Americans have always been
Speaker 4: gone at president, but they're not stupid.
Speaker 2: A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 4: Whether people voted for you were not. Swamp watch, they're
Speaker 4: all counter knowing.
Speaker 2: Okay, something weird is happening on the whole truth social thing.
Speaker 4: But okay, because of the president.
Speaker 2: And his what's happening, Well, so let's explain what's President
Speaker 2: Trump is unhappy with Vladimir Putin and made it so
Speaker 2: made it right.
Speaker 1: Moscow continues to batter Ukraine. Trump is in the middle
Speaker 1: of trying to get together a peace deal to end
Speaker 1: the war, and Putin's been kind of telling Trump what
Speaker 1: he wants to hear, playing a foot seat with him
Speaker 1: by the same token, and at the same time attacking Ukraine.
Speaker 1: So today Trump accused Putin of, in his words, playing
Speaker 1: with fire. He wrote in Truth Social late this morning.
Speaker 1: What Vladimir Putin doesn't realize is that if it weren't
Speaker 1: for me, lots of really bad things would have already
Speaker 1: happened to Russia, and I mean really bad ball caps.
Speaker 1: He's playing with fire. This is a big change in
Speaker 1: the Trump administration's approach to the Kremlin. This, you know,
Speaker 1: this comes on the heels of the administration blaming Zelensky
Speaker 1: for triggering the war between Russia and Ukraine. And he
Speaker 1: seemed to kind of one eighty that whole bit yesterday
Speaker 1: and called Putin absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4: This was him just off of Air Force one.
Speaker 3: I'm not happy with what Putin's doings, killing a lot
Speaker 3: of people, and I don't know what the hell happened
Speaker 3: to Putin. I've known him a long time, always gotten
Speaker 3: along with them. But he's sending rockets into cities and
Speaker 3: killing people, and I don't like it at all. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets
Speaker 3: and Tikiev and other cities.
Speaker 5: I don't like it at all.
Speaker 4: I don't like it.
Speaker 1: This was one of the deadliest attacks in months that
Speaker 1: he's referencing. It happened over the weekend. At least twelve
Speaker 1: people were killed in a combined drone and missile attack
Speaker 1: it struck over thirty Ukrainian cities. This also coincided with
Speaker 1: the largest prisoner swap since the start of the invasion
Speaker 1: in Ukraine in twenty twenty two. So this was the
Speaker 1: exchange of one thousand prisoners the same day as Russia's
Speaker 1: massive attack. So Trump was like taking a victory lap
Speaker 1: over that. Right, this is a huge diplomatic breakthrough. I
Speaker 1: was involved with brokering this prisoner swap. I'm a big
Speaker 1: deal here. And then Putin turns around and attacks Ukraine
Speaker 1: and it's like.
Speaker 2: Wait, what hundreds of drones and missiles and there's again.
Speaker 2: Trump has every reason to not be happy with it,
Speaker 2: but then do something about it. Don't just complain that
Speaker 2: your friend is letting you down or embarrassing you. Do
Speaker 2: something about it. Now, I said, something weird is happening.
Speaker 2: Republican Senator Chuck Grassley out of Iowa is trying to
Speaker 2: I guess out Trump Trump in his social media posts,
Speaker 2: because what he said is this is this morning on Twitter.
Speaker 2: I believe President Trump no capitals, was sincere when he
Speaker 2: thought his friendship w Putin wld end the war with
Speaker 2: friendship with Putin would end the war again. I don't
Speaker 2: know if he's trying to text like he's doing this
Speaker 2: on purpose, or if he's just screwing it up. Now
Speaker 2: that being the case, all caps, it's time for sanctions
Speaker 2: strong enough nuf so Putin knows game over.
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 2: Is he doing this because he thinks that's going to
Speaker 2: catch Donald Trump's eye.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's speaking Trump's language.
Speaker 4: Happening, what's going on on Trump's playing field.
Speaker 2: Now to that end, the Senate has a brew has
Speaker 2: put together I shouldn't say approved a package of sanctions
Speaker 2: that already has overwhelming support, like eighty plus senators are
Speaker 2: supporting this new paction, a package of sanctions against Russia,
Speaker 2: including a five hundred percent tariff on imports from any
Speaker 2: nation that purchases Russian oil, petroleum products, natural gas, or uranium.
Speaker 2: That is not just the sanction on Russia, but the
Speaker 2: sanctions on countries that continue to do business with Russia.
Speaker 1: This is a problem. Trump does business with Russia, his
Speaker 1: family does business with Russia. He is well entrenched in
Speaker 1: Russian banks. That's where they get a lot of their
Speaker 1: funding and have for a long time. And you've got
Speaker 1: to follow the money, and it's not financially advantageous for
Speaker 1: Trump and his family and his brand to pick a
Speaker 1: fight with Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 4: It is not.
Speaker 2: One of the things that's also happened is Germany's new
Speaker 2: chancellor has lifted any range restrictions the weapons that we've
Speaker 2: been giving to Ukraine. We've been telling them, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can use them, but you've got to do them defensively
Speaker 2: or not too far into Russia if you're going to
Speaker 2: use them as offensive weapons. And now Germany's Chancellor, Friedrich
Speaker 2: Friedrich thinks how you say it, Merz has said there
Speaker 2: are no restrictions on the range. Kremlin doesn't like that
Speaker 2: because they say that leaves us no other option but
Speaker 2: to go nuclear if necessary.
Speaker 1: Nearly ten years ago, when we met Anthony Wiener in
Speaker 1: Philadelphia at the DNC, it was after his first fall
Speaker 1: from grace. He was persona on grata there and he
Speaker 1: pulled up a chair and we did an interview with him,
Speaker 1: and I said to him, if I remember correctly, well,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do now? You need the
Speaker 1: attention because he does. You know, people like this, the
Speaker 1: people that need at ten he wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: standing around with his literal genitals in his hand. For
Speaker 1: very long. He had his second fall from grace shortly
Speaker 1: after that conversation, when he was caught sending pictures of
Speaker 1: his genitals with his son in the frame to college
Speaker 1: girls in the Midwest. Now, Anthony Wiener, still needing attention,
Speaker 1: is back trying to what was the headline soft launch
Speaker 1: his comeback.
Speaker 4: We'll tell you all about it.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 6: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Did you make an appointment to go see somebody like
Speaker 1: a GP or something just for fun, just because we
Speaker 1: thought it'd be something fun to do for the show.
Speaker 4: No, oh, I thought you.
Speaker 1: I thought there was movement on that, just to check
Speaker 1: things out to scale, blood work done.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not fun for the summer. Fun for the summer. Okay,
Speaker 4: that sounds like fun.
Speaker 1: What don't you think you should just get things looked at.
Speaker 2: For baseline stuff. Yes, I'm probably it's probably a good
Speaker 2: idea to do it. My PSA numbers are very very low,
Speaker 2: so that's so thank you.
Speaker 1: Your public service announcement.
Speaker 2: No, my prostate specific antigen numbers, oh very low.
Speaker 4: Do you take those? Do I take them? You take?
Speaker 4: You know what your numbers are?
Speaker 2: When I last time I had my blood check. Yes, oh,
Speaker 2: so you do get your blood checked. I have had
Speaker 2: my blood checked. I don't ask yet. It's been four years,
Speaker 2: but it's that's okay. Four years is acceptable. I was
Speaker 2: in my forties, then, is that okay?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I just think you know a little baseline checking from
Speaker 1: here and there, baseline checking. You have a history of
Speaker 1: heart disease in your family. I also have a history
Speaker 1: of prostate cancer.
Speaker 4: My fan, Right, so do you know this song.
Speaker 2: Hang On Sloopy, Sloopy, hang on devor do you want
Speaker 2: to do it right now?
Speaker 4: We have a corrections and retractions.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we do.
Speaker 1: Well, he's not dead, No, no, he is, he is.
Speaker 1: But you know I I quickly I grabbed the story
Speaker 1: and I said, sloppy, Well, it looks like sloppy when
Speaker 1: you were on Sloppy, but it's you're too young, too young,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, because I the only reason I
Speaker 1: don't know that song. I know the song really well
Speaker 1: because my dad listened to oldies driving us into school,
Speaker 1: So I know all the music of the fifties and
Speaker 1: sixties down ass. Okay, my brother and I can do
Speaker 1: a real fun karaoke.
Speaker 4: Of those times.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, thank you for allowing me to us on
Speaker 1: the song, you know, save some face kind of You're welcome.
Speaker 4: We want you to be the best deb brother that
Speaker 4: you can be. Oh, thank you. Somebody's got yes exactly. Hey,
Speaker 4: do you remember this whole thing? Do you remember? You
Speaker 4: remember Anthony wien Er? Did you send the tweet? Is
Speaker 4: that a photograph of you? And why not call for
Speaker 4: an investigator?
Speaker 5: Hi, answers, I did not, and that I hate that.
Speaker 4: I know what a system was hacked. I was pranktical.
Speaker 5: It's fairly common one.
Speaker 4: People make fun of my name all the time.
Speaker 1: When your name Wiener, you kind of get that, Is
Speaker 1: that right?
Speaker 4: Right? I don't remember the timeline on this. Let me see.
Speaker 4: Did you ask him if you could see his phone
Speaker 4: to see when I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 5: Well, if you want to see a lot of pictures
Speaker 5: of Jordan.
Speaker 4: And my son, Yeah, that's all we have. You're letting
Speaker 4: me down.
Speaker 5: You are clearly not you. It's found. It has been
Speaker 5: a long time since you had a four and a half.
Speaker 5: Ye all that is like some aces stuff aces aces,
Speaker 5: it's aces.
Speaker 1: And I love that he's calling me old when I
Speaker 1: was like thirty four ish, not even thirty four years
Speaker 1: old at that time. Like I get playing the old card,
Speaker 1: like you don't know what it's like to have a
Speaker 1: four and a half year old running around if you're
Speaker 1: like sixty, But like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: This was and that that portion of the interview or
Speaker 2: that portion of an interview came from the twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. And again you mentioned he
Speaker 2: was persona and on Grada. He was walking around the wells.
Speaker 1: Fargo, sew salmon colored pants, like like J Crew salmon
Speaker 1: tight colored pants, and he nobody was talking to him.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a body person nothing. He was just
Speaker 1: naked walking around there basically. And so I I time
Speaker 1: has made me love that interview even more.
Speaker 4: This was him a little bit later.
Speaker 1: What's next for you? I mean, you've got to get
Speaker 1: back into side.
Speaker 5: Are going to miss the how do I possibly? I
Speaker 5: was gonna say, you're gonna miss the attention KF I
Speaker 5: am six forty with with the Gary and Channon show.
Speaker 5: I'm totally this is it. I've peaked at great question
Speaker 5: kind of. Now I do one of those trips where
Speaker 5: I'd climb the mountains of seven continents or something, and
Speaker 5: then and that.
Speaker 4: Was it very similar, very similar to being on the show.
Speaker 1: But you know what he went on to do was
Speaker 1: completely sandbag that election for Hillary Clinton with the help
Speaker 1: of Debbie Wasserman. I mean, between the two big stories
Speaker 1: that broke that week or the week after for him,
Speaker 1: I mean that the fact that Bernie Sanders people were
Speaker 1: all completely.
Speaker 4: Shut out, shut out.
Speaker 2: I remember that couple crying, the Bernie Sanders couple that
Speaker 2: we met on the street and we were asking them
Speaker 2: about what I mean, You guys are in Philly.
Speaker 4: You thought this might be it. There was a chance
Speaker 4: that you guys would They.
Speaker 1: Felt succeeded, and they were, they were Those were valid feelings.
Speaker 2: Let me remind you that of the three of us
Speaker 2: that were sitting at that table that day, you me,
Speaker 2: Anthony Wiener, only one of us is a registered sex offender. Well,
Speaker 2: you don't know everything, right, I can guarantee that one
Speaker 2: of us is not a registered sex offender. I am
Speaker 2: also not a r Okay, so the two of us
Speaker 2: not registered sex offenders.
Speaker 1: He is running, guys, He's running for New York City Council.
Speaker 1: He that was a fifteen year old He was texting
Speaker 1: by the way. I was just gonna I keep in
Speaker 1: my head, it's like an eighteen or nineteen year old
Speaker 1: college co ed all the time that he's sexting, not
Speaker 1: the case a fifteen thirteen year old.
Speaker 2: Good lord, again, it happened that story came out weeks
Speaker 2: after you asked him this.
Speaker 1: Can I look through the pictures on your phone?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Could you imagine ladies who trust your gut? Anthony Wiener
Speaker 2: running for New York City Council six years after he
Speaker 2: was released from his twenty one month stay behind bars
Speaker 2: for sexting a fifteen year old.
Speaker 4: He was last.
Speaker 2: Seen on the streets of New York with a handful
Speaker 2: of flyers, with a woman holding a campaign sign, talking
Speaker 2: to a mother with a small child, hugging an older woman.
Speaker 2: Is it Is it interesting that all of these are
Speaker 2: females in his circle at this point taking photos with
Speaker 2: potential women?
Speaker 4: Are women are more more for giving?
Speaker 1: Although you know, I can't believe I asked him that question.
Speaker 4: The show was pretty new then too.
Speaker 1: Had we already been screwed over by Richard Dreyfus was
Speaker 1: the dow off the lily in terms of interviews and
Speaker 1: being polite to people?
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe I was maybe that was not about the milk,
Speaker 4: you know, it was about Richard us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because that was pretty Uh, that was pretty prickly
Speaker 1: of me to say that to him.
Speaker 2: This was also late in the week, if I remember correct,
Speaker 2: Wednesday or Thursday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gamy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you started wearing the same clothes day after day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that was like Wednesday and Thursday. You did
Speaker 2: the same outfit and and you had Philly cheese steak
Speaker 2: remsans on your shirt or as they say, blouse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you ironed every day.
Speaker 2: Well not true, that was the second half. Remember they
Speaker 2: lost our luggage, so we had the hotel had to
Speaker 2: do the laundry for us, and they were earn my
Speaker 2: shirts pressed, so I didn't do.
Speaker 1: I thought it was very impressive that you had ironed
Speaker 1: all your clothes every day.
Speaker 2: That's sweet considering once you step out of the uber
Speaker 2: in one hundred degree heat and rain.
Speaker 4: It's broken. All of that is gone.
Speaker 2: His By the way, the person running against him is
Speaker 2: a woman named Sarah Batchu. She proposed a bill nicknamed
Speaker 2: the Wiener Act a couple of months ago that would
Speaker 2: ban registered sex offenders from holding any public.
Speaker 4: Office in the city.
Speaker 1: Why is that not already a law.
Speaker 4: That was great and called it the Wiener Act.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. We should you know what we should
Speaker 1: get them on? Nope, yes we should, we should. We shall,
Speaker 1: I say we shall, we shall. Let's see the words.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, all right?
Speaker 1: Young men calling nine to one one heart.
Speaker 2: Attack or panic attack? Heart attack, panic attack.
Speaker 1: Panic attacks are scary and it does feel like something
Speaker 1: is really wrong. But these are I'm assuming these are
Speaker 1: young people that are yep, yeah, okay, yep. We're talking
Speaker 1: like a couple cups of coffee too much. Maybe not
Speaker 1: an actual panic attack. Toxidrome, it has a name.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I didn't want to look at you.
Speaker 1: I went to the hospital with that too.
Speaker 4: But that was legit. Your heart was literally racist, Yeah
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 6: But come on, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on
Speaker 6: demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Cassie Ventura is going into labor. Oh really, it seems
Speaker 1: like that she left the courtroom for the hospital.
Speaker 4: Very dramatic.
Speaker 1: Sources to TMZ, you say Cassie was rushed to the
Speaker 1: New York hospital. She is in the labor and deliver
Speaker 1: a unit. As we know, she was very pregnant, so
Speaker 1: as you can as you know, if you've made a baby,
Speaker 1: if you had a baby, sometimes stress We'll move along
Speaker 1: the process, and how could this not be stressful. She
Speaker 1: has showed up to court for four straight days for
Speaker 1: intense testimony about their relationship.
Speaker 4: She has two other kids too, by her current husband.
Speaker 1: I I don't know, that is I do not know.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, we'll do true crime Tuesday.
Speaker 2: By the way, when we get to twelve thirty, there's
Speaker 2: some updates on that Idaho quadruple murder case. Brian Cobroker,
Speaker 2: of course accused of killing those CODs, and they are
Speaker 2: closer to trial, but it has not been without some
Speaker 2: speed bumps along the way.
Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 2: Men are about half as likely to be diagnosed with
Speaker 2: an anxiety disorder compared to women. I'm going to repeat
Speaker 2: that because that surprised me. Men about half as likely
Speaker 2: to be diagnosed with an anxiety disorder compared to women.
Speaker 2: And then this study out of Australia suggests that some
Speaker 2: men feel pressure to be fearless to hide their emotions.
Speaker 2: Others simply don't understand or have the language to describe
Speaker 2: the symptoms of the anxieties that they feel. Your face
Speaker 2: is their emotional language is weak, shall we say?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: This means that boys grow up believing that their male
Speaker 2: role models don't get anxious. They don't see dad or
Speaker 2: grandpa or their uncle get anxious. True, so they themselves,
Speaker 2: if they feel anxious, think that something is wrong with them.
Speaker 4: I can see that.
Speaker 2: So then you start this biofeedback loop where you start
Speaker 2: convincing yourself, googling prep did I feel Did I.
Speaker 4: Just have a heart attack?
Speaker 2: I might have just had a heart attack, And then
Speaker 2: you start getting nervous about it. You develop these symptoms
Speaker 2: in yourself and you call nine to one one. This
Speaker 2: story actually looked at, or, I should say, the study
Speaker 2: looked at the notes of paramedics who treated men between
Speaker 2: the ages end boys between fifteen and twenty five years old,
Speaker 2: seven hundred of them, and they said men are encouraged
Speaker 2: to talk about anxiety. They can describe various challenges like
Speaker 2: repetitive worries, feeling out of control, and in many cases,
Speaker 2: intense physical symptoms high rate of heart beats, shortness of breath,
Speaker 2: body pains, tremors, and headaches. One study said that a
Speaker 2: lot of times anxious men will call the ambulance, specifically
Speaker 2: younger men will call the ambulance. They said, many young
Speaker 2: men turn to ambulances in crisis. Anxiety accounts for ten
Speaker 2: percent of male ambulance attendances for mental health concerns.
Speaker 1: Why do you think this is happening? Is it being
Speaker 1: reported more or what have you? Because this is nothing
Speaker 1: new that men don't talk about their emotions. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not a new generation type of a thing. Is
Speaker 1: there something making men more anxious? Is it the loneliness
Speaker 1: thing where men aren't talking to other men or really
Speaker 1: anybody else? I think maybe they go hand in hand
Speaker 1: if if men, because well the diamond does in the
Speaker 1: stays that say, young men are lonelier now than they
Speaker 1: have been for whatever reason. Maybe it's they're isolating more.
Speaker 1: They and because they're isolating more, they're not talking to
Speaker 1: people face to face. Talking to people face to face
Speaker 1: can definitely ease anxiety. Friendships, things like that, just getting
Speaker 1: things off your chest or what have You don't have
Speaker 1: to sit down and have like major conversations about feelings
Speaker 1: and emotions. Just talking to somebody about your day or whatever.
Speaker 1: I think goes a long way in that regard. And
Speaker 1: if you're isolating and you don't have that outlet. I
Speaker 1: guess that's where more anxiety would come in. I mean,
Speaker 1: young men aren't getting married. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: our grandparents got married when they were what twenty two
Speaker 1: twenty three. So even if they're not having these like
Speaker 1: big conversations with about their emotions, they're still talking to
Speaker 1: somebody in the house every day.
Speaker 2: Should be Yeah, there are three things that they refer to.
Speaker 2: Bodily symptoms, onset of bodily symptoms, that is very quick.
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that it kind of is
Speaker 2: that self fulfilling prophecy. You start to think, why are
Speaker 2: my hands tingling? I must be having a problem. Then
Speaker 2: that sort of convinces your body to follow through with
Speaker 2: that problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The mind is so powerful, especially at least I found
Speaker 1: for personally, if I think I'm having anxiety or a
Speaker 1: panic attack, my mind will take that ball and run
Speaker 1: all the way to the goal line with it and
Speaker 1: nothing to do.
Speaker 4: With trophy winning run on rade to the end zone.
Speaker 2: They also say that severe anxiety is very often triggered
Speaker 2: or worsened by substance abuse. Yes that if you start
Speaker 2: to feel yourself I need something to calm myself down.
Speaker 4: That actually can work against you in terms of it.
Speaker 1: Will do it will bomb you down right now, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to deal with that the next day.
Speaker 1: The anxiety does not go away. In fact, it makes
Speaker 1: it worse. I have a lot of girlfriends who just
Speaker 1: stop drinking because the next day and somebody else's famous,
Speaker 1: Oh on the Housewives, it's her name, Kyle Richards.
Speaker 4: Same thing.
Speaker 1: She felt so much anxiety after she went out for
Speaker 1: a night drinking that it was like, I don't want
Speaker 1: to feel this way anymore. The next day for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: whatever chemical reaction that had, it was manifesting an anxiety.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of girlfriends same thing. They stopped
Speaker 1: having those nights out and drinking to excess that anxiety
Speaker 1: went away.
Speaker 2: I think there's two other things, and they don't point out.
Speaker 1: It's like when you get older, the way your body
Speaker 1: handles a hangover.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it could just be different.
Speaker 2: It's different than the headache and the right sensitivity to brightness. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's probably a more mental right. There are two things
Speaker 2: that are not in the study that I would say
Speaker 2: probably have an impact on it. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they would be able to quantify it because of the
Speaker 2: way they did this study. But lack of physical movement,
Speaker 2: like young men aren't exercising the ways that.
Speaker 1: They used to, also makes you feel good and totally
Speaker 1: decreases any sort of anxiety.
Speaker 2: Right, But and then a sort of an offshoot of that,
Speaker 2: or that may be a symptom of the bigger problem,
Speaker 2: which is we're not teaching people how to deal with anxiety.
Speaker 2: We've not told them, Hey, there are things that you
Speaker 2: can do to maintain a consistent outlet.
Speaker 4: Moving around, like moving around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or if you do start to feel that way,
Speaker 2: you know, it may not be prophylactic. You may not
Speaker 2: be able to run five miles a day just to
Speaker 2: kind of calm your brain down, but it may require.
Speaker 4: You to get up off the couch.
Speaker 2: If you start to feel that way, go do something physical,
Speaker 2: Do something that's outside of your comfort zone.
Speaker 4: Just a walk, even just a walk, walk the dog,
Speaker 4: or if.
Speaker 2: You don't have a dog, walk yourself, put a leash
Speaker 2: around your own neck.
Speaker 1: Well, that gets into a little bit of stress. Weird suicide, Okay,
Speaker 1: because there's been a couple of those.
Speaker 2: All right, up next, we told you about these mountain climbers.
Speaker 2: They were trying to make it to Everest, to the
Speaker 2: top and back and record time.
Speaker 4: They did it. They certainly did well. They have a
Speaker 4: lot of money. And here's the other thing. That's what
Speaker 4: the key is.
Speaker 2: Actual mountain climbers are saying they should be banned from mountain.
Speaker 1: They should and everyone who's publicizing it, including us, although
Speaker 1: we'll do a responsible job, it is part of the
Speaker 1: problem because how many people will read or hear this
Speaker 1: story and be like.
Speaker 4: Well, if I could do it, I could do it.
Speaker 1: And then they go up there and they die and
Speaker 1: they put rescuers at risk.
Speaker 4: Who was that this guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the guy that thinks he could go up
Speaker 1: about without any training.
Speaker 4: He also has a cold apparently, I don't know. I
Speaker 4: just met him. Gary and shann will continue.
Speaker 6: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 6: AM six forty.
Speaker 2: The Trump administration is asking federal agencies to cancel contracts
Speaker 2: with Harvard worth about one hundred million dollars. This intensifies
Speaker 2: the fight between the president and the oldest and wealthiest
Speaker 2: university in America. The government already canceled more than two
Speaker 2: point six billion in federal research grants for Harvard. Harvard
Speaker 2: has pushed back on the President's demands for changes to.
Speaker 4: Several of its policies.
Speaker 2: A very bad day in Gaza, which is there have
Speaker 2: been many lately, but chaos erupted on the second day
Speaker 2: of aid operations by a new US backed group there.
Speaker 2: Palestinians completely overwhelmed the center that is distributing food today,
Speaker 2: breaking through fences. Nearby Israeli troops had to fire warning
Speaker 2: shots and then setting people run in the opposite way
Speaker 2: and panic. The Israeli military later said the situation was
Speaker 2: brought under control, but at least three Esthenians were injured
Speaker 2: in what was supposed to be a food distribution.
Speaker 1: For British men, who we talked about a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago when we heard about their plan, have shrunken the
Speaker 1: timeline dramatically when it comes to climbing Mount Everest, traveling
Speaker 1: from London to the summit and back in less than
Speaker 1: a week.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: While this does make the news, it is a stupid, foolish,
Speaker 1: fatal plan. In nine point nine out of ten cases
Speaker 1: they skipped the acclamation time the adjustment period by inhaling
Speaker 1: xenon gas, which the jury still out on that. By
Speaker 1: the way, I said when we talked about their plan
Speaker 1: and what they thought would be their secret weapon and
Speaker 1: xenon gas that to your point before it's all mental.
Speaker 1: A lot of the scientists said that it's not going
Speaker 1: to have any effect, maybe detrimental if anything, but if
Speaker 1: you think you have a secret weapon, that's going to
Speaker 1: go a long way, well physically and mentally.
Speaker 2: So scientifically, they say they don't know exactly how this
Speaker 2: is supposed to work that they have shown. Xenon has
Speaker 2: been known for years to activate a molecule called the
Speaker 2: hypoxia inducible factor. It's also turned on when people acclimate
Speaker 2: to low oxygen. So what these people claim to have
Speaker 2: done is found a way to switch on the adaptation
Speaker 2: to the low oxygen levels, because obviously you're at such
Speaker 2: an altitude twenty six thousand feet that there is very
Speaker 2: little oxygen up there. If you're climbing the regular way,
Speaker 2: you're taking supplemental oxygen with you but still suffering the
Speaker 2: effects of low oxygen. What these guys did was ten
Speaker 2: weeks before the expedition, they started sleeping in hypoxic tents
Speaker 2: that lowers the oxygen levels in the air would acclimatize
Speaker 2: them to the conditions. Instead of what many other people do,
Speaker 2: which is travel to the mountain and gradually make your
Speaker 2: way up, as you know, a week at this level
Speaker 2: and then go up in another week at that level,
Speaker 2: and so on.
Speaker 1: If you're a climber, or if you've even seen the
Speaker 1: major motion picture Everest the way that I have so
Speaker 1: very base, rudimentary knowledge of this, you have to have
Speaker 1: respect for the mountain. You have to have respect for
Speaker 1: the people who came before, who the people who know
Speaker 1: the mountain. It's all about that, really, and this seems
Speaker 1: to fly in the face of that. And it's not
Speaker 1: just this group of guys. They plan to keep on
Speaker 1: doing this. Lucas Furtenbach is the guy who organized the exhibition,
Speaker 1: and he says that this group showed that it can work,
Speaker 1: and that beginning next year he plans to offer two
Speaker 1: week round trip excursions to Mount Everest using the Xenon gas,
Speaker 1: cutting the typical time needed to scale the mountain by
Speaker 1: several weeks.
Speaker 4: And you know what he's going to do.
Speaker 1: That he's going to make an s ton of money
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, and people are gonna die.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, even if he ends up
Speaker 2: pulling bodies off of that mountain.
Speaker 4: He's gonna bee, He's.
Speaker 1: Not gonna pull him off. You just leave him up there.
Speaker 1: That's all you can do.
Speaker 2: So Furtenbach says that that summit took less than three days,
Speaker 2: which was one of the fastest times for a group
Speaker 2: that had not actually acclimatized on the mountain itself. The
Speaker 2: record goes to, thankfully, a sherpa who did it in
Speaker 2: just under eleven hours. What was that guy running eleven hours?
Speaker 2: Lak Pa Gelu is one of the sherpas that supposedly
Speaker 2: holds the record for that eleven hour climb. But the
Speaker 2: rapid climb by this British group and the use of
Speaker 2: the xenon has caught the eye of the Nepalese government.
Speaker 2: They are potentially looking at regular I mean, they regulate
Speaker 2: who goes in and out of Everest, and the Nepalese
Speaker 2: government may do what they can to prevent tourists like
Speaker 2: that from doing things like that.
Speaker 1: I wonder also, and I don't know because I'm not
Speaker 1: in any of the online forums with master climbers, but
Speaker 1: if it's kind of like an asterisk climb, if you
Speaker 1: use xenon gas, jury still out A lot of people
Speaker 1: don't believe it does anything. It could be to your detriment.
Speaker 1: It could help you out. But is that like a
Speaker 1: Barry Bond's home run record situation where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: to use the xenon gap, then you didn't really climb Everest, right,
Speaker 1: Like there's got to be an ever purest population that's
Speaker 1: just like no, unless you do it the right way
Speaker 1: and do it the way that you should do it
Speaker 1: and acclimate and all the things, you're not really doing it.
Speaker 4: Well. He I mean, you made a great point.
Speaker 2: This is one of the luxuries of having disposable income
Speaker 2: like this, where you can spend ten weeks in a
Speaker 2: hypoxic tent. Yeah, and then pay an anesthesiologist to infuse your.
Speaker 4: Mask with xenon gas.
Speaker 1: Another ask, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: He claims.
Speaker 2: Again, Furtenbach claims that they still used shirpas, which is
Speaker 2: a requirement based on the Nepalese government, that shorter times
Speaker 2: on the mountain were safer because it reduces the chance
Speaker 2: that the climbers would be exposed to other health threats,
Speaker 2: things like avalanches or the hypothermia or the very common
Speaker 2: fall on Everest. And he said if the World Anti
Speaker 2: Doping Agency, which I guess has somehow has say over this.
Speaker 2: If they do prohibit it, it wouldn't apply to mountaineering
Speaker 2: because it's not a regulated competitive sport, but that they
Speaker 2: may take may make xenon gas illegal when it comes
Speaker 2: to other sporting competitions.
Speaker 1: So, well, look at that? Would you look at that?
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