1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to thepeteclendarshow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free, write to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet, and again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:34,000 your support. Let's talk about germs' to quote South Park jobs, 10 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:41,159 particularly skilled trades. Why are you changing subjects, Pete? Did 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,719 they get to you? They don't want you to talk 12 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:47,280 about Epstein anymore? I'm kidding, No skilled trades. I was 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,840 going to do this topic yesterday, but we ran out 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,759 of time, And by we, I mean I did I 15 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:55,920 talked too long about other things, so totally my fault. 16 00:00:56,039 --> 00:01:03,600 But skilled trades like electricians, plumbers, elders, and renewable energy technicians, 17 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:07,519 which I have to admit that's a new category. I've 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,519 not seen that lumped in with these skilled trades. But 19 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:19,400 apparently it is now over one million trade jobs remain unfilled, 20 00:01:20,599 --> 00:01:27,040 including half a million in manufacturing alone. Why well, according 21 00:01:27,079 --> 00:01:31,239 to Jack Kelly at Forbes dot com. An aging workforce 22 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:39,319 with five tradespersons tradesmen retiring for every two replacements. Okay, 23 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:41,680 so you've got people who are aging out, they're retiring, 24 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,599 So for every five that retire, only two come in 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,480 to replace them. So that's a big factor. Number two, 26 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:59,120 a cultural bias towards college degrees over vocational training. Telling 27 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:02,200 everybody that they need to go to college in order 28 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:07,280 to get a decent career has not worked out. It 29 00:02:07,319 --> 00:02:09,319 has not worked out. I've been saying this for years. 30 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Not everybody should go to college, and it's not an insult. 31 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,199 I should not have gone to college initially when I 32 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 was I mean, when I was done with high school. 33 00:02:19,439 --> 00:02:21,759 I wanted to be done with high school. I wanted 34 00:02:21,759 --> 00:02:26,319 to get out of school. I should have taken a 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,439 year or two or five or whatever off and then 36 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,159 gone back to college when I actually, you know, kind 37 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:33,240 of figured out what it was I wanted to do. 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,080 But you know, I ended up here, and I guess 39 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,319 it all worked out. But here's the thing. If I 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,080 were to go work in the trades, I'd make way 41 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:48,599 more money. So you've got retiring people, not enough people 42 00:02:49,039 --> 00:02:51,960 replacing them. And you have all these people with college 43 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 degrees and therefore a lot of college debt, and they've 44 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,639 been told that they're better than those jobs. That's what 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:06,120 they've been told. And this has created this this lack 46 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:12,319 of people to fill these roles. But it has also 47 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:18,520 created rising wages, right because that's the market, that's the 48 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,439 free market. So you've got a whole bunch of demand, 49 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,439 not enough supply, and so you're going to see the 50 00:03:25,479 --> 00:03:30,039 prices for those for the labor increase meet the demand. 51 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,120 Skilled trades are uniquely positioned for the future. Unlike many sectors, 52 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:42,280 trades are largely automation proof, requiring hands on expertise that 53 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:47,680 machines cannot replicate. The green energy boom ensures long term 54 00:03:47,719 --> 00:03:52,240 relevance with roles in solar, wind and energy efficient systems 55 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:56,360 leading the way. I would also throw in there obviously 56 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,879 oil and gas production to nuclear obviously, but I don't know, 57 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,240 you probably do need a college degree, probably something along 58 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,479 the lines of, like you know, nuclear science. But meanwhile, 59 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:13,199 technology integration like robotics and smart systems creates brand new 60 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,959 specializations which blend draftsmanship with cutting edge innovation. I will 61 00:04:19,959 --> 00:04:23,360 say I went down and got some lumber a couple 62 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:28,560 of months ago. It was it Carolina Urban Lumber I 63 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,079 think was the name of it. Really cool place, Pineville, 64 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,439 and you go in there and you walk through. They 65 00:04:36,519 --> 00:04:38,240 got the whole lumber yard. They got all these you know, 66 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,199 cuts and stuff, and you pick it and then they 67 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,879 they'll do as much or as little of it as possible. 68 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,279 And know they're not paying me to say this. They 69 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,079 had no idea who I was. We just needed a 70 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,759 couple of pieces to make some shelves, and so we 71 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,879 found a piece of you know wood with the live edge, 72 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,120 and they cut it down. They offered to stand it. 73 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,279 They're like, well, build the whole shelving thing for you. 74 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,040 I said, no, no, I'll stand it. I'll just give 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,600 me the cuts. I gave them the measurements. They did 76 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,639 all the cuts, and I'm watching the machinery and it's 77 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,639 like amazing stuff. So that's what they're talking about, this 78 00:05:09,399 --> 00:05:13,319 blending of traditional craftsmanship with cutting edge innovation. You've got 79 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:17,480 all of the different computers and machines that are able 80 00:05:17,519 --> 00:05:20,680 to do the things, but you still need the craftsmen 81 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:26,800 to direct the machine right. Due to the skills gap, 82 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,839 which is created by none enough people taking the jobs, 83 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,920 and all of the people with the college degrees that 84 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,839 don't want the jobs because they think they're better than 85 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:38,639 these jobs. It's all going to lead to what's expected 86 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:42,040 to be a shortage of two point one million unfilled 87 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:49,199 manufacturing jobs in America by twenty thirty. Manufacturers specifically are 88 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,040 only filling six out of ten job openings. That's according 89 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:56,959 to an analysis by the global management consulting firm McKinsey 90 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:01,360 and Company. Now, women's labor participation in the skilled trades 91 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,000 reached its highest level ever. It now comprises somewhere around 92 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,319 fourteen percent of total apprentices in the trades. These in 93 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:17,800 demand jobs offer high wages, attractive benefits, including pension plans, 94 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,800 and opportunities for advancement. The trades offer competitive salaries and 95 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:29,160 resilience against automation. And I would throw in here Ai AI, 96 00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:33,720 the AI bloodbath is coming. I don't mean like AI 97 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:36,240 is going to kill us, because AI would never do that. 98 00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:38,959 I'm on record as saying I love AI. I welcome 99 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,240 our AI overlords when they arrive, because when they do arrive, 100 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,839 they will be able to go back and listen to 101 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:47,079 everything I've ever said immediately, and they will recognize that 102 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,120 I have always said AI is awesome, and I welcome 103 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,279 them as my overlord. Okay, So AI is going to 104 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,480 decimate the white collar field, and there are gonna be 105 00:06:58,519 --> 00:06:59,800 a lot of people now with a lot of college 106 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,600 day the so called elites and their jobs are now 107 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:07,319 going to be blown out. And what will they do? 108 00:07:07,639 --> 00:07:12,839 Where will they go? Ninety percent of trades people, by 109 00:07:12,879 --> 00:07:18,079 the way, report high job satisfaction as well. Energy efficient 110 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,240 systems smart technology require advanced skills, making HVAC a high 111 00:07:23,279 --> 00:07:28,800 demand field critical for infrastruct and energy projects. Welders face 112 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,720 nationwide shortages, and that ensures job security. 113 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: You know. 114 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Mike Row thirty jobs, Microw, He's been beating this drum 115 00:07:43,279 --> 00:07:48,519 for years, right, trying to get people to understand that 116 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,399 these are good career paths that are available, that pay 117 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:57,079 very very well, that have job security and help keep 118 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:02,680 America running. The back like to build stuff, maintain stuff, 119 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,240 fixed stuff. Right, So he appeared at a what was 120 00:08:08,279 --> 00:08:12,160 this called the Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit. It was 121 00:08:12,199 --> 00:08:18,800 held at Carnegie mal University of all places, and he outlined, 122 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:23,759 or as the Daily Mail says, sounded the alarm on 123 00:08:23,879 --> 00:08:26,959 the nation's shortage of blue collar workers in the face 124 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,800 of emerging technology. I will play for you as comments. 125 00:08:30,839 --> 00:08:33,279 I think they are really profound. I think they are 126 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:37,639 very important for people to, you know, to internalize and 127 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,879 think about this stuff in a different way. Because when 128 00:08:40,879 --> 00:08:44,080 I came up as a gen xer, and same with 129 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,840 my parents, neither of my parents had gone to college, 130 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,360 and they told us, you all got to go to college. 131 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,759 We want a better life for you guys. And that's 132 00:08:53,799 --> 00:08:56,240 what a lot of people of the boomer generation believed. 133 00:08:57,639 --> 00:09:01,320 The problem is everybody went and did that. You have 134 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 all these people. It's what this is called, by the way, 135 00:09:04,399 --> 00:09:09,840 is called overproduction of the elites. And I put elites 136 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:14,039 in quotes all the time. I hate the term. We've 137 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:16,200 produced too many people with degrees that now have this 138 00:09:16,279 --> 00:09:18,200 expectation that they're going to be pulling in a quarter 139 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,879 million dollars a year, and that was never going to 140 00:09:20,919 --> 00:09:23,759 be the case. All right, if you're listening to this show, 141 00:09:23,799 --> 00:09:25,320 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 142 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,360 of current events, and I know you do too, And 143 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,240 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, 144 00:09:32,279 --> 00:09:35,000 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 145 00:09:35,039 --> 00:09:38,240 I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll 157 00:10:13,799 --> 00:10:17,000 get fifteen percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage 158 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,480 plan to get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription 159 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,279 then not only helps my podcast, but it also supports 160 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,559 ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. 161 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:31,320 Mike Rowe, the former host of Discovery Channel's Dirty Jobs, 162 00:10:31,879 --> 00:10:35,080 sounded the alarm on the nation's shortage of blue collar 163 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,039 workers in the face of emerging technology. He was speaking 164 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,080 at the Pennsylvania Energy and Innovation Summit. He suggested that 165 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,799 trade based jobs may actually be the solution to the 166 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,879 artificial intelligence driven jobs apocalypse. Here's what he said. 167 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,799 Speaker 3: We've been telling kids for fifteen years to code, learn 168 00:10:56,879 --> 00:11:00,919 to code. We said, yeah, well, AI's coming for the coders. 169 00:11:01,279 --> 00:11:04,080 They're not coming for the welders. They're not coming for 170 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:07,320 the plumbers. They're not coming for the steam fitters, or 171 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,399 the pipe fitters or the h fact. They're not coming 172 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,559 for the electricians. You know that ideas festival I was 173 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,799 telling you about an Aspen. I sat there and listened 174 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,559 to Larry Fink say we need five hundred thousand electricians 175 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:27,120 in the next couple of years. Not hyperbole. This is 176 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,279 me being the alarmist again. There's not a week that 177 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:33,840 goes by, and my humble little foundation, it's called Microworks 178 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,799 Shameless Plug. We award work ethic scholarships every year right 179 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:41,480 to kids who want to learn a skill that's in demand. 180 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,360 These are trade school scholarships. Not a week goes by 181 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,519 where I don't get a phone call from somebody like 182 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,840 the Blue Forge Alliance, who oversees our maritime industrial base. 183 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,879 That's fifteen thousand individual companies who are collectively charged with 184 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,480 building and delivering three nuclear powered subs to the Navy 185 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,919 every year for ten years right to Virginia one Columbia 186 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,360 class mind bogglingly complicated. This guy calls and says, we're 187 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,519 having a hell of a time finding trades people. Can 188 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,960 you help? I said, I don't know, man, it's pretty 189 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,480 skinny out there. How many do you need? He says, 190 00:12:16,519 --> 00:12:20,360 one hundred and forty thousand. One hundred and forty thousand 191 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,279 now granted over seven years, but they need eighty ninety 192 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:29,480 thousand right now. These are our submarines, folks. Right things 193 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:34,120 go hypersonic, little sideways with China, Taiwan, whatever. Our aircraft 194 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,320 carriers are no longer the point of the spear. They're vulnerable. 195 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:42,159 Our submarines matter. And these guys have a pinch point 196 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,080 because they can't find wells electricians to get them built. 197 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:49,320 Where are they? They said, We've looked everywhere. 198 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:49,919 Speaker 2: Do you know? 199 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I know where they are. They're in 200 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,559 the eighth grade, man, they're in the eighth grade. And 201 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,039 that same thing. The automotive industry needs eighty thousand collision 202 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,799 repair and technical energy. I don't even know what the 203 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:04,120 number is. I hear three hundred, I hear five hundred 204 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:10,000 thousand everywhere. So not to fill a buster. But that's 205 00:13:10,279 --> 00:13:15,720 the underlying thing that I just really hope people take 206 00:13:15,879 --> 00:13:21,039 from this conference. There is a clear and present freakout 207 00:13:21,399 --> 00:13:25,360 going on right now. I've heard from six governors in 208 00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:28,799 the last six months. I've heard from the heads of 209 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,879 major companies in the country. It's like a memo has 210 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:37,039 gone out and people are realizing, you know something, we 211 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,279 need to tend to this, both on the pr side 212 00:13:41,799 --> 00:13:43,720 and on the demograph. I don't know what to do 213 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,840 about the retiring demography. I don't know what to do 214 00:13:46,879 --> 00:13:49,840 about seven million able bodied men choosing not to work. 215 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:53,639 But I do know that the message to the young 216 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,200 men and women in this state that a bright future 217 00:13:57,519 --> 00:14:01,360 awaits if they would but learn us skill that's in demand. 218 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:07,320 That's going to resonate politically, that's going to resignate, resonate practically, 219 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,000 it's going to move the needle. 220 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree. Micro has been beating this drum 221 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,240 for years. It was sort of a lone voice in 222 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:20,399 the wilderness. Let me get to the Liberty Buick GMC 223 00:14:20,519 --> 00:14:21,000 text line. 224 00:14:21,039 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: Here. 225 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,159 Speaker 1: This is I don't know who's from. It's from a 226 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:26,600 seven oh four number. My son in law was in 227 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,960 college and he was accumulating debt. By good fortune, he 228 00:14:30,039 --> 00:14:32,679 happened to be visiting somebody who had just gotten their 229 00:14:32,799 --> 00:14:36,159 Lineman certification, and so that's what he decided to do. 230 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,960 He makes more than all of the college educated people 231 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,200 around him. My friend Ray has been pushing his tools 232 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,720 in o Ray Terry has been pushing his tools in schools. 233 00:14:48,039 --> 00:14:50,559 He has partnered with others because not everyone wants to 234 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,559 go to college or should go to college, incur the 235 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,559 debt from college, et cetera. My son grew up in 236 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,519 the family business of residential construction. He is in a 237 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:05,080 supervisory position in commercial construction. We were just talking about 238 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,759 the lack of people in the trades. We had a 239 00:15:07,919 --> 00:15:11,159 tech putting in fiber optics this week. He's got an 240 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,320 IT degree from a four year university, but he is 241 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,799 sticking with his blue collar job because of the money 242 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:26,279 and the job security. This is from Kevin. If I 243 00:15:26,279 --> 00:15:29,879 had went to college, I likely wouldn't be working for myself. Instead, 244 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,600 I do what I love. I get up every day 245 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:34,720 energized to get going. If my boss does something that 246 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:38,200 ticks me off, I fire them. My customers they don't 247 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,919 know they are fired, but I put fired next to 248 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,039 their name in my phone to remind me each time 249 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,600 they call me. With a college degree and working for 250 00:15:45,639 --> 00:15:47,440 the man with his foot on my neck, I would 251 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,159 just have to take it. That's interesting, Yeah, that you 252 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,200 fire the and you put it in your tech your 253 00:15:55,679 --> 00:15:59,320 contact file that they're fired. Yeah. And look, this is 254 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:06,200 something I've learned earned dealing with various trades in sort 255 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,320 of my non paid side gig, trying to get our 256 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,240 HOA on its feet, because like, there are a lot 257 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,120 of problems, and so I've been dealing with a lot 258 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,360 of the trades for the various services and stuff. And 259 00:16:19,399 --> 00:16:22,360 one of the things I learned was if they don't 260 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:25,360 want to work with you, they just give you a 261 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,440 bid that is ridiculously overpriced. That's that's them telling you 262 00:16:29,879 --> 00:16:35,720 I don't want this job. So that's I'm not saying 263 00:16:35,759 --> 00:16:38,799 that's what Kevin says. He does. He just puts fired 264 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:42,519 next to their names. Manufacturers are also having trouble finding workers, 265 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,279 with about four hundred thousand jobs currently unfilled. I mentioned 266 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,080 this stat this according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. 267 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,360 I mentioned this stat a couple of months ago. You know, 268 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,279 this whole this whole idea like, oh, this is going 269 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,799 to be a renaissance and manufacturing and all of that. 270 00:16:59,039 --> 00:17:05,079 We already have half a million unfilled manufacturing jobs. People 271 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,480 aren't taking the jobs. They don't want the jobs. Why 272 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,319 And I said, at the time, when this radio gig ends, 273 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:18,079 and it will, like if I'm still physically able, like 274 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,839 I intend to go look for something in the trades 275 00:17:20,839 --> 00:17:23,920 because it will be way more stable with the AI 276 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:28,119 revolution that's coming. Like my voice is already out there 277 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:34,279 in the digital environment. They can AI will be able 278 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:38,359 to take my voice and make the most compelling content 279 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,759 better than I can. So at some point, I'm sure 280 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,640 it will displace me. So that's what I'm gonna do. 281 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,279 I'm gonna walk down the street to a couple of 282 00:17:47,319 --> 00:17:49,640 the manufacturing facilities and I'm going to ask them, hey, 283 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,240 can I get a gig? And by the way, if 284 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:55,400 you are young enough and you start young enough, I 285 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,519 got a list of the salaries for the various trades. 286 00:18:00,559 --> 00:18:06,359 They dwarf. They dwarf anything that I've seen in any 287 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,000 of the gigs that I have ever been in. So 288 00:18:09,319 --> 00:18:11,480 we'll get to those in a minute. You know, stories 289 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:13,720 are powerful. They help us make sense of things, to 290 00:18:13,839 --> 00:18:17,279 understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of our 291 00:18:17,319 --> 00:18:20,799 past while transcending generations. They help us process the meaning 292 00:18:20,839 --> 00:18:24,640 of life and our stories are told through images and videos. 293 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,519 Preserve your stories with Creative Video started in nineteen ninety 294 00:18:28,519 --> 00:18:31,079 seven and Mint Hill, North Carolina. 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Hey Pete, my twenty four year old 314 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:48,000 nephew lives in Ohio and works as a welder in 315 00:19:48,079 --> 00:19:51,640 Bridge construction. Has been making a six figure salary now 316 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,200 for the past two years with nothing more than his 317 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:56,960 high school diploma and a few welding classes from a 318 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,519 local community college up there, with zero college debt to boot. 319 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,039 The opportunities are definitely out there without having to go 320 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,440 the traditional routes and go in debt. Always enjoy your show, 321 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,400 keep up the good work. Thank you, Scotty. Appreciate that 322 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,720 this is from RUSS. A friend went to the Naval Academy, 323 00:20:17,279 --> 00:20:20,759 was a nuclear submariner, got or sub mariner? Do you 324 00:20:20,759 --> 00:20:21,559 say sub mariner? 325 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,079 Speaker 3: Is that right? 326 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: Got a master's in nuclear engineering and now works at 327 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,839 a nuclear power plant. The highest paid guy at the 328 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,960 plant is a welder with his ged and a few 329 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,240 tech school certifications, who is so good at what he 330 00:20:38,279 --> 00:20:42,000 does he makes mid six figures to work a couple 331 00:20:42,039 --> 00:20:48,480 of days a week. I also saw where the guys 332 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:52,960 who climb communication towers can make hundreds of dollars per hour. 333 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,880 Lots of great paying jobs in the trades, especially if 334 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,759 you can do one of the niche odd ones that 335 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,359 most of us don't even think about. And then Dennis says, 336 00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:07,559 a doctor has to call a plumber to his house. Oh, 337 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,440 so sorry, this is a so this is a joke. 338 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,759 Just to be clear, this is a joke, all right. 339 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:15,319 A doctor has to call a plumber to his house. 340 00:21:15,319 --> 00:21:17,440 And the plumber is there for an hour, and he 341 00:21:17,519 --> 00:21:20,000 hands the doctor his bill. The doctor looks at the 342 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,640 bill and says two thousand dollars. Heck, that's more than 343 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,359 I charge. And the plumber says, I know, I used 344 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,160 to be a doctor too. We've been telling kids fifteen 345 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,160 that was not the right I was supposed to play this. Now, 346 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:38,079 that just makes it so unfunny on many different levels. So, 347 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,599 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, here are the 348 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,960 salaries that you can earn in various traits. And they've 349 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:52,920 got it broken down as apprentice salaries, journeyman salaries, so 350 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,119 you go from apprentice to journeyman to master. Right, and 351 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,559 so they've got it broken down. I believe these are 352 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:07,319 the average salaries. So you start as an apprentice, and 353 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,119 I'm going to run through each of the categories. So 354 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,799 as an electrician started thirty eight, journeyman sixty two thousand, 355 00:22:15,839 --> 00:22:25,680 Master ninety thousand plus, HVAC started thirty six, journeyman fifty 356 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:32,240 one thousand, master seventy eight thousand plus, plumber started thirty 357 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:38,000 nine thousand, journeyman at sixty thousand, Master ninety five thousand plus, 358 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,880 welder thirty five thousand to forty seven thousand to seventy 359 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:48,599 thousand plus, carpenter thirty three thousand, forty eight thousand, seventy 360 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:54,240 two thousand plus, solar installation thirty four to forty nine 361 00:22:54,559 --> 00:22:59,400 to eighty k plus, and a mold inspector. You start 362 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:05,319 at four, journeyman at sixty thousand, and then master eighty 363 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:12,559 five thousand plus. Those are those are very good salaries. 364 00:23:14,519 --> 00:23:17,000 Let's go over to line one. Here is Joe. Hello, Joe, 365 00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:17,799 Welcome to the show. 366 00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:23,599 Speaker 2: Brett. Yeah, I'm a professional handyman. I've over the years 367 00:23:23,799 --> 00:23:28,119 in California and enter. I've you know, I do electrical plumbing, 368 00:23:30,039 --> 00:23:35,119 bathroom remodels, paint, but I mean the phone's ringing off 369 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,119 the hook. I make, I make six figures without even 370 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,480 breathing hard and and I charged it in the middle 371 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:49,240 of what some handyman and handyman companies charge. And there's 372 00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:52,720 just there's just not enough trades, just absolutely not enough trades. 373 00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:54,839 And then the ones that are out there, you know, 374 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,680 they either they're not doing good work or they're going 375 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,799 so fast. It's it's some sometimes work, you know. I 376 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,759 just I just tore out a door and found out 377 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:08,400 a double door in a house and it had almost 378 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,400 no nails in the frame at all holding it to 379 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,799 the wall. 380 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. 381 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,279 Speaker 2: The only it was holding it was the brick molding 382 00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:16,319 on the outside and the molding on the inside. 383 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: Nice. 384 00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 2: Now, and this is this happens all the time. We 385 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,200 run into this stuff all the time. 386 00:24:22,279 --> 00:24:22,559 Speaker 3: Oh I. 387 00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: We had two homes built new construction over the last decade, 388 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,599 and the problems with the you know, the mass produced 389 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,920 residential housing, it's ridiculous. Absolutely they had to so they 390 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,359 the one of the house we bought up in Ashville, 391 00:24:38,839 --> 00:24:42,920 they they did not plumb half of the house through 392 00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:46,200 the water heater. Half of the house was right to 393 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,720 the street. Yeah, And luckily I went there every single 394 00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,319 week and took pictures of all the work that they 395 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,480 were doing. So when we got there and the water 396 00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:58,559 wasn't working correctly, I could show the guy who came in, 397 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,960 I could show him the pictures of what behind the wall, 398 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,680 and he was he was astounded. He's like, this is 399 00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:05,640 unbelievable that somebody would build this like this. 400 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's cuckoo for Coca bus. 401 00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: Right, Joe, appreciate the callbody, have a great weekend? 402 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:13,319 Speaker 2: All right, man, yep too. 403 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,559 Speaker 1: Here's a great idea. How about making an escape to 404 00:25:16,599 --> 00:25:20,079 a really special and secluded getaway in western North Carolina. 405 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,359 Just a quick drive up the mountain and Cabins of 406 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,759 Asheville is your connection. 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We haven't done it in a while, but 426 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,680 that's because I've been on vacation, or he's been on vacation, 427 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,799 or just generally playing hooky. Brett wennaball. It's time for 428 00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:38,160 pregaming with Brett Brett. How are you, sir? 429 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,079 Speaker 4: It's with you. 430 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,799 Speaker 1: It's great to be with you again, sir. 431 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:41,559 Speaker 4: Thank you. 432 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were fresh off of your vacation where 433 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,400 you sailed the high seas. I went up to Comiland 434 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,880 in New York and so yeah, yeah, I mean I 435 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920 wasn't in New York City like eating rice with my fingers. 436 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 4: Oh well played, yeah, well play. 437 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,319 Speaker 1: Just gross that guy. So, I don't know if you 438 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,319 heard any of it. We were talking about before about 439 00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:09,880 the trades and the you know, the lack of applicants 440 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,599 to fill all of these vacancies in various trades, and 441 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,160 so I was kind of curious, what is the toughest 442 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,359 like trades job or blue collar job whatever, Like, what's 443 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,079 the what's the what's the job the toughest job you 444 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,519 ever did? 445 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 4: Well, it was tough, but I loved I loved my 446 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,359 job working in a supermarket ah uh. And but I 447 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,039 did not like having to clean up all the the 448 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,799 detritis that exists in the uh in the meat area 449 00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:43,960 and stuff like that. That that was that was hard. 450 00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,000 I mean, I'm not gonna lie toea. That was you know, 451 00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:49,279 kind of understanding some of the basic uh you know, 452 00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:52,119 butchering things that you have to learn and cleaning up 453 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119 and all that sort of stuff. But most of my 454 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,440 most of my labor uh has has come uh in 455 00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:02,039 the form of something that's a very very lostart, and 456 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:03,680 that is push mower. 457 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and I don't. I don't. 458 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 4: I don't drive a drive mower. No, and I I 459 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,799 pushed that thing up and down and all around, and 460 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,640 let me tell you, on a hot day, that is brutal. 461 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: Yes I did. Oh, that was my first job was 462 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:20,119 mowing everybody in the neighborhood's yards for five bucks for 463 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,759 the front, five bucks for the back. 464 00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:24,039 Speaker 4: Five bucks for the front, and the one for the back. 465 00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:28,839 Speaker 1: Ten dollars. Man, I would make dollars per house. And 466 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,319 I had five houses, although one of them at a 467 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,599 really big backyard, and so I got ten for that backyard. 468 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,119 And this was these were the days before the propulsion motors, 469 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,599 you know, yes, of course, yeah, yeah, like you had 470 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:44,240 to push these you know, seventy pound mowers around as 471 00:28:44,279 --> 00:28:46,440 a you know, as a fourteen year old. Were you 472 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:46,920 doing that? 473 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,559 Speaker 4: Because there were people who wouldn't take those jobs because 474 00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:51,880 they you know, they will not take those jobs. 475 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: Right, No, I wanted the job. I needed the money. 476 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,799 I wanted to buy Christmas presents for people. And oh wow, 477 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,000 yeah that's what Yeah, that's what we did with our money. 478 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,480 So that was not that was not the toughest gig 479 00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:05,200 I ever did, or what was the toughest. I did 480 00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:09,400 not lay the sod. The sod was laid. They brought 481 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,359 in me because I was like in college. I had 482 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,640 no skills, obviously, and so they just the only thing 483 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,440 that they trusted me with was the big water barrel 484 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480 with the handle on it. And so you fill this 485 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,319 massive drum with water and the thing weighs like one 486 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,519 hundred pounds or something, and you have to push the 487 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,759 water drum and roll it over the sod to flatten 488 00:29:34,839 --> 00:29:38,720 the sod out. That was That was brutal. 489 00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 4: That is horrible. Oh man, that's terrible. If you had 490 00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:43,680 to go back to the trades, what would you if 491 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,680 of all the trades that are out there, what would 492 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,799 you be curious to do? 493 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:53,119 Speaker 1: I think electrician. I did some electrical work, never anything 494 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,839 that was off permit for the record, so I but 495 00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:03,240 I learned the basics of electrical work. And I have 496 00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:05,960 like a scarred a scar in my retina to prove it, 497 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,599 because I crossed the wire and it flashed really brightly, 498 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,559 and from then on out, I've always had a little 499 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,799 black spot in my field. Division. Yeah, but I would 500 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,400 like to do that, or maybe welding, because then you 501 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,400 could build stuff too. You know you could weld stuff. 502 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:19,880 What about you. 503 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,799 Speaker 4: So my grandfather was a cement basin for like fifty 504 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,279 years old. 505 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: That's a good one too. 506 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: I wish I knew how to lay concrete and do 507 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,200 all that kind of because that to be able to 508 00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:34,079 do that is incredible, And I think I think I'd 509 00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:36,119 like to be a cement mason. You bust your butt, 510 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,519 but man, you get to do some really cool. 511 00:30:38,319 --> 00:30:41,119 Speaker 1: Stuff, right, And that's the creative side of it. Like 512 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,119 you get to build stuff and when you're done, you 513 00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:46,359 have something to look at. Like with this gig, it's 514 00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,759 all they're bouncing off of space. You know, it's like there's. 515 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. 516 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't either. I'm just saying it's like nice 517 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,559 to look at something and have something tangible to say 518 00:30:55,599 --> 00:30:58,200 I built that, you know, right, Yeah, so I saw 519 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,480 this the Also, this is a annual priestly not the 520 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,839 guy from nine on two one zero. This is Dent 521 00:31:04,039 --> 00:31:08,559 global entrepreneur and developer guy. He says mice get killed 522 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,920 in mouse traps because they do not understand why the 523 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:15,440 cheese is free. At age sixteen, your entire survival depends 524 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,319 on handouts. Your psychological safety is built on simple ideology. 525 00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:23,359 Most adults, you interact with our government employees, you're hardwired 526 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,640 to appeal to authority. So there's little chance of understanding 527 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,480 the deep flaws in state control and big government. Now, 528 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,039 I thought, that's that's actually really brilliant, Like your entire 529 00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:37,960 life up until the point where you are kind of 530 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,880 like kicked out of the nest and then you come 531 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,359 back to it for many years, but before that, you like, 532 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:46,759 that's your whole worldview. It's a very insulated kind of 533 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,640 an experience, and so it's only natural that you would 534 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:56,680 tend towards authority, tend towards government employees essentially for that authority. 535 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 4: But he's a that's a great that's a great point. 536 00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:01,400 And you know, one only has to look at the 537 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,559 gen Z people here who are are actually starting younger younger, 538 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,079 trying to build out what they can, and they will 539 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 run into that behemoth of government at some point in 540 00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:12,799 their lives being told you got to do this, you 541 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:14,680 can't do that, or any of that, and then they'll 542 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,039 just stand there and give you the stare at the hearties. 543 00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:20,359 Speaker 1: Stare are you seeing this thing with the stair? They're 544 00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:23,279 talking about the stair on these TikTok videos. I never 545 00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:25,920 realized it before, but now apparently like you can't unsee it. 546 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,799 They all do this stare at you. 547 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: This is Isaac broke it down for me yesterday. Oh really, 548 00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,559 I had not really experienced it. I just thought that 549 00:32:33,599 --> 00:32:36,799 they were high. No, I just thought that, you know, 550 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:39,240 I didn't understand stair was I just stared back. 551 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,039 Speaker 1: So what is it? 552 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 4: The stair is the stair? You say, like, you get 553 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,440 the fast food. Isaac did this beautifully for me yesterday. 554 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,319 He said, okay, so you get the fast food and 555 00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:52,799 you say, hey, have a good day, thanks for everything, 556 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,039 and as you're driving off, like they're just staring at you. 557 00:32:55,119 --> 00:32:55,720 That's all that. 558 00:32:55,759 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: The stair is the stair. 559 00:32:57,799 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 4: There's no communicative it doesn't indicate any benefit nothing. Oh 560 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:02,440 they just stop. 561 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, it's like a short circuit. 562 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, and they're all doing it because of 563 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,519 the devices. 564 00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:13,519 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, the device. All right. That'll do it for 565 00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,279 this episode. Thank you so much for listening. 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