Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn. Hester and Hester got it by a
foe from carrying each other to and Natty to carrying
each other on the air well, there's brought control for
the live from the Raisin Kines studio. It's Off the Bench.
Speaker 2: Welcome back in our un three of ot B here
live from the Raising Kings Studio. All right, a lot
of things to show in a lot of reason why
we got to the score line that we did Saturday
night in Tiger Stadium. Before we get to some of
the things that Matt's going to point out, I do
want to pull up because we talk about attacking certain
areas of the field, and if you listen to us
on the broadcast, it was something like it had to
be said, the middle of the football field was just
closed and it can't ever be closed at any level
of football, but certainly the college game. Why do you
say that? In the NFL the hashes are really close,
So if you don't attack the middle of the field,
like you're gonna lose. But it's like, okay, well you
know it's tight quarters down there. Whatever, The hashesn't.
Speaker 3: Cost football or a mile wide, you know, a mile wide?
Speaker 2: And I mean, how do I know? Because I've seen
about seventy six hitch routes be thrown from one hash
to the other sideline this year, and I realized how long.
Speaker 4: With throw so many, it's in the hair for such
a long time. Why the middle of the field is
like always say it. I'm gonna say it, and you're
going to get tired of me saying it over the
next one hundred years of us doing this show award
winning the fastest way to the end zones over the
middle of the field. Why, Well, there's a lot of
different reasons. Why Because it's where you catch defensive players, linebackers,
defensive back safeties and transition the most. What's transition, it's
there's a couple of different ways of transit. One the
main way is when a defensive back or linebacker goes
from a back pedal to having to flip his hips
and turn and transition into a forward run. When he
has to transition from looking at a play fake to
react into now pass, when he has to transition from
moving left to right. There's a lot of transition, so
there's a lot of windows out there. There's a lot
of gaps and oh yeah, the balls in the air
less time, they're easier throws for the quarterback. People are
usually running full speed, either across the middle or up
the field when you do a lot of passes towards
the sideline, which of course you have to passes to
the sideline. We're not saying that that's great. We hit
a deep ball, that was great, We hit some stuff
to that, but that can't be your only way of
attacking in a passing game, and we just we did
that too often. Most of the times, when you throw
it out to the outside, you're throwing a comeback, a
hit ra you're catching it from a stop position. That's
my issue with a lot of our opos and our
wide receiver screens is the wide receivers are catching it
from a stopped position and having to go from zero
to sixty after they get the ball in their hands
with people running full speed at them. The most successful
wider skimes are when they're coming, they're they're on the run.
But when you attack the middle of the field, you're
stressing their zones. You're stressing their zone principles, and when
they play man, you're stressing the middle of the field.
It also prevents them. Well I'm not gonna say it
prevents them, but it makes defensives more hesitant of rushing
people up the middle the best way. Do you heard
Saban talk about it in a game day. The best
way to rush a quarterback is not necessarily from the outside.
It's rushing up the a gap and the beatap. For sure,
if you make that platform away, you take up the step.
But like so if the if you're attacking, if you're
blitzing up the middle of the field, then you're exposing
the middle of the field for for past coverage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we just never did that. The fastest way.
Speaker 4: Good offenses, the best offenses, no matter what level you are,
have a passing chart that is just peppered over the
middle of the field. Hey, CAF, you pull up our
passing charte. This is the passing chart from this game.
And look, we're talking about this because of course the
coaching change we just got there, that's official. Joe Sloan
has now been relieved of his duties, so we will
have a new offensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we want to show you, like why it
was bad, why it didn't work, like what things went wrong,
because there's there's enough talent on this team that it
should have been better. It should have Now, some of
this falls in the players, without question, but.
Speaker 4: Not, I mean not the middle of the field thing.
Speaker 2: Say not not this because like I went back and
it's not one of those situations where like should hit
it over the middle. You gotta hit you gotta get
to your back foot and hit that over the middle. No,
here is the passing charge. So as you see there
right that blue line right there, that is the line
of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: So over the middle of the football field.
Speaker 2: You had one pass that was caught inside the hashes,
one a single pass. You had some check down Charlie
stuff right there within five yards.
Speaker 5: That was an that was an Aaron Anderson pass.
Speaker 4: That one that's right at ten yards on the right
hasse that was an Aaron Anderson pass.
Speaker 5: That was an explosive. You got another one that.
Speaker 3: Was Treds was right on the hash.
Speaker 4: The trade does around that. So that was Van Buren
coming in first play, ripping a seam right there. But look,
you have let's see one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven completions behind the line of scrimmage. You have another
one two, three, four, five, six, seven, almost eight that
are five yards are under then a lot of incompletions
towards the sideline. We got a deep pass complete? Did
we hit one on time? I'm three steps one hitch
released the ball. And for all you ball knowers out there,
what do we always talk about? A properly executed go
route or a deep ball is completed at how many.
Speaker 3: Yards between thirty eight and forty two?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 4: And what is that one that's exactly thirty eight? So
properly executed you would look at that one and be like,
it's perfectly on time. Well run, great job, great play, boom.
But the lack so and we went I went back
and pulled the passing chart from last season with the
LSU offense.
Speaker 5: Now it's crazy.
Speaker 4: It just looks like it's got freckles everywhere, like it's
looking at a whole season passing charts.
Speaker 5: A little overwhelming, but.
Speaker 3: A lot of dots. Although there's a portion of the
field that doesn't have a.
Speaker 4: Lot, Yeah there was last season there was more passes
completed in between the hashes than any other third on
the field. So I'm looking at the left side of
the field, middle of the field, right side of the field.
More passes were completed and touchdowns completed over the middle
of the field than any other third of the field. Well,
I guess it's no surprise that we were better on
offense last year, so this isn't just an anomaly. Vanderbilt
was actually worse than this. This has been a consistent
theme throughout the year and our answer for almost every
every situation. Down a distance passing situation where we had
to like run a scheme where Garrett had to read one, two,
three to a checkdown. It seemed like it was a
three by one set. The outside receiver ran a hitch,
inside receiver ran a inside fade route, and third receiver
ran a stitch rout stick and nothing is attacking them.
And we went to that over and over and over,
and it led to, like, like I said, hard completions.
Throwing a hitch route to the wide side of the
field in college is a long thrown And yeah, we
completed some, but it was just hard. It's just a
hard pass to complete. You can't expect that to be consistent.
I'm surprised we didn't get more picks on that. People
are just sitting on it because they're not expecting you
to do anything else. So attacked the middle of the
field with multiple people. And it seems that our answer
to do that was always in the RPO game, rpo game,
rpo game.
Speaker 5: Well it.
Speaker 4: That's not the answer. So that's what has led us
to this point. That is what has led your offense
to be an inmate. That's what hiled is your fifth
year quarterback who's played so well to have by far
his worst season.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna play on Sundays. I think Aryl Might is
gonna play on Sundays, and it's gonna be the same situation.
Go back and look at look at what Matt House
did to Omar Spates.
Speaker 3: Right, A lot of people, a lot of.
Speaker 2: LSU fans wanted to nickname him slow Mar Spates, all right,
and that was somebody that was all conference before he
got here. And it's like, man, that guy, that guy, Yes,
that guy, Okay. It was egregious the positions he was
put in, and they the style that they asked him
to play in. You know who he starts for right
now and has ever since he's been in the NFL.
The Los Angeles Rams. They're pretty good on defense, Like
that's a not to maybe that extent.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's going to be a starter,
I don't I don't know, but like you're going to
see his game go back up, I think because he's
gonna make somebody that understands what he needs to be
coached through.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I hope so
I love that.
Speaker 3: I think he is. I know what you hope.
Speaker 5: I hope he is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I mean he also look at a guy
that through whether it's all his fault or you know,
it's a lot of things. Man and the kids has
shown exactly what it means to be an LS Tiger.
He's stuck around in the world that people don't stick around.
He was given the eighteens jersey for a reason, like
the play on the field, just like an X's and
ose he went from a first rounder to now probably
an undrafted guy right now, Like he can turn it
around and he's got the skills, and he's got the
skills to like go turn it around at the Senior
Bowl and do all that stuff.
Speaker 2: When I say play on Sundays also like I would
need that doesn't mean the guy is going to be
one of the thirty two stars. I'm saying he's going
to have an opportunity for sure be on the team.
I think he's a drafted guy. I think he'll go
down to Mobile and he'll probably play well. I think
he'll get back some of his mojo and it's somebody
that will see racist level of play again. To what extent,
I don't know, but he'll be on roster and he'll
be a veter He'll he'll be a vested NFL guy.
Speaker 4: And look this this, you know, the starting fresh in
the middle of a season tends to do a lot
of positive things for a team. It tends to happen.
Look at what coach Od did when les Ma was
was gone. You look it all over NFL College. Maybe
this has the right on the wall for for us
to to turn it around. I don't know. If he doesn't,
I don't know if they vam Buren came in there
and played.
Speaker 2: Look if he doesn't, Yeah, hard, hard decisions have already
been made.
Speaker 3: They got to continue to happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And let me tell you like, play calling at
any level is hard. It's a skill set that you
either have or you don't like. Being a play caller.
Being able to adapt to a game, be able to
set a tone in the game, and think of ad
lib and think of these things that at the at
the last second in all these different situations.
Speaker 5: It's tough.
Speaker 4: It is really hard, and good play callers are few
and far between. But the good ones you hang on
to him. You got to go find them, you got
to pay them. And we have a brand new play caller.
Who knows, guy could be great? I could who knows.
We have no idea, but I can tell you it's
it's going to be better than.
Speaker 5: What we've had. So being like, so to me, what
it means to.
Speaker 4: Be a play caller at any level, it's like being
a good writer, like an author, like a writer of
a book. Like there's different themes that you have to
implement into a game plan. When you go into you
create a plot, a plot like a compelling would like,
there's a compelling plot that I'm going into. This game
plan has got a clear beginning, it's got a clear
middle and end, and it's driven by conflict, a sense
of progression throughout the entire book and throughout.
Speaker 5: The entire game.
Speaker 4: Then there's pacing, like there's a rhythm that comes with
play calling. You got to know when to punch, you
got to know when to block, you got to know
when to push and pull throughout the game. And that's
that balance and the tension that moves the story forward.
It moves the story that you're the plot that you're
trying to create, It moves it forward, making it more
dynamic throughout the game. Then there's like, of course, there's
an overall theme to what you're trying to do. It's
an underlining message and the meaning that you want to imply,
want to impose on your opponent, if you're an author,
what you want to impose on your reader. And then
at the end of the story, there's an ending, there's
a conclusion to all this. It's the resolution. It's like
what you've been building to what all these the plot,
the pace, and the theme. It's the resolution of everything
that you've been creating to that point and it comes together.
And if you're a good play designer, you're a good
game plan builder and designer against defenses, and you know
how to script that and you know how to create
that through the ebbs and the flows, the negatives, the good,
the bads, the penalties, the holding calls, the big plays.
If you know how to create that and always come
back to that plot that you're trying to create and
that theme, that message you're trying to send to the
other team, and you're working to a certain resolution, like
that is that's the key. That's the gill set. That
isn't a play caller a play designer, And to this point,
it looks like we've just been picking out plays, picking
and hoping, like, yeah, sure there's been a good place
called that hadn't been executed.
Speaker 5: That's fine, that's that's football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks at this point we haven't been writing
that book, right, creating that narrative, imposing that narrative. We've
just been kind of picking and choosing plays, running this
and that because you know, it's a it's you know,
r pos.
Speaker 5: It's a good look versus run.
Speaker 4: We got a good look versus pass, Like, that's not
imposing will and right. So it's just instead of creating
a book, right, instead of writing a story with your
play design and your play call and your game plan,
we've just been picking and hoping.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's well said, and a good play designer, a
good play caller, doesn't just open up the play sheet
and put his finger on it and go down and
be like, yes, let's do that one, and then does
it again.
Speaker 3: Hey, we hadn't run this yet, let's do that.
Speaker 2: A good play caller sets up every call that he makes.
Speaker 3: It's a purpose to it.
Speaker 2: You know Lane Kiffin, who's obviously gonna be talked about
a lot on this show, this station and in this
state for the next couple of weeks. Like, I'll see
Lane do something and I'll just put a star buck
because I'm like, yep, he's coming back to that.
Speaker 3: He's setting that up for.
Speaker 2: It could be the next series, it could be two series,
it can be three series from now. But there's a
rhyme and there is a reason to what he does
in the game flow that he has, and there was
never there was never that it was a truly let's
look down the chart.
Speaker 3: H Yeah, that one looked okay in practice. Let's let's
run that one.
Speaker 5: Let's do that.
Speaker 2: Hey, oh that worked earlier. You know what we're gonna do.
Let's flip it, Let's run it the other way. Yeah, Like,
do you do you think that? Do you think defenses
are dumb? Like you think that's a good play to
put on tape.
Speaker 4: Early the game. We tried to run a screenplay. It
was a fake power screener.
Speaker 2: Wait, you fake the power a play that you haven't
run once this year, and you thought the defense is
gonna fall for it.
Speaker 5: We play Actually, oh wow, weird we pulled the guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a play you haven't run all season long. And
that's how I watched it. I was watching it last night.
I laughed that loud sshiting. I lolled, truly loled. You
haven't run a power all year long, and you're gonna
fake a power to set up a screen.
Speaker 3: I really not believe A and M wasn't pulled by that.
Speaker 4: We didn't score. Jesus Christ, we're gonna shot some film
we get back. Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: Org tigers turn talkers. This is off the bench.
Speaker 3: You just got I'm not grip this one, sing.
Speaker 4: Hi, Welcome back off the bench Monday morning. A lot
of stuff happening right now in the world of L
s U spots. Frank Kelly here going here, going, Joe
Slan here, going here, going all right, But look, we
got a lot of season left to play. Well, Frank
Wilson is going to take over new play caller on hand,
and we're gonna show you. We've talked a lot of negative,
a lot of speculation, a lot of facts. We're gonna
show you just a couple of clips right now, get
into a little bit of film, say like, trust me,
there's a lot there's plenty of bad from the game,
offensive defense, but you know what, we want to share
a little positivity, little sunshine. We want to show you
a couple of clips of our running game in the
first half that was absolutely great. We want to show
you some good stuff. We've we've we've talked on the negative,
and we're gonna do a little bit more negative. We're gonna,
of course checking out. We're gonna write our article in
the film study that will be published a little bit
later at Louisiana Sports dot Net.
Speaker 5: But look, Taylor, throw this up. I got, I got
a couple of plays.
Speaker 4: We want to show you on some good stuff, and
a lot of it is stuff that we have pointed
out in our film study and stuff that we've done
here on the show and in the article that we
were a lot of it arepo issues. Well, you know,
they kind of listen. Maybe they listened to our show,
maybe they read the article last week. Who knows. We're
gonna show you about three or four clips right here
of positive running plays that we just haven't seen all season.
Speaker 5: Does this formation look familiar? This?
Speaker 4: Does it look familiar to anybody? Because all season this
has been an RPO where we'll either fill a wide
receiver screen to the top or we'll throw a hit
you out to the bottom.
Speaker 5: What do we talk about last week?
Speaker 4: Dig out the safety to the play side, dig out
the safety to the playside.
Speaker 5: Trade is they're running to you.
Speaker 3: Dig out the safety.
Speaker 4: Supposed to play second play the game? Are you kidding me?
That's what a running play is supposed to look like.
Guess what you see offensive linemen firing off to the
second level. Trade as come in hit him. That's safety
didn't see your see you coming? You know why, because
you hadn't done it all season? Oh we did it.
Speaker 3: And that's the toughest look you're ever going to get.
Speaker 2: That safety immediately added himself to the count. That's the
toughest one that you'll ever have. And guess what he
did it. Yep, he did it. He found a way. Boom,
get it.
Speaker 4: Let's go. Put your body in there, how your physically,
Let's go. That's what we talked about. First play I
did on the on the film SETI ride up, dig
out the safety, and they did it. Quarter two, first play,
the second quarter.
Speaker 5: Motion in.
Speaker 4: We've seen these looks before. Hey, this doesn't look like
a lot, but guess what. Look at the receivers at
the bottom. We're not running dumb hitch routes. We're blocking.
Get some all right. Not the best play. It's first down,
four and a half, five yards, you're on schedule. It
doesn't look like a lot, but look at the lineman
getting to the second level because the threat of the
throw is not there.
Speaker 5: Next play, what do.
Speaker 4: We say, second to go, dig out the safety, dig
out the safety, block with your receivers down at the bottom.
Speaker 3: There you go, boom boom.
Speaker 4: If we run hitches like we've been doing this plays
tackle for a three yard game, That's what I'm talking about.
That is what it should have been all season long.
We outthought ourselves. Golly, it's just beautiful. Look at the
right tackle. There's no threat there's no kickstep, there's no
thread of us throwing it fire off, double team, second level.
I love it. Harlon Barley have a day. I mean, oh,
fifty three seconds left. Hey, let's go, hey number four,
let's take out some safety one on one you want,
if you're a coach, you pray that your running back
gets one on one with a corner.
Speaker 5: Dig out the safety, break a run.
Speaker 4: Now, we'll watch from the back these and remind you
we're all thinking it. We're all shaking our head, we're
all old man waving our fists right now because we
know this is the first half, and we know that
Harlan Barry. You know that Harlem got one carry in
the second half.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: And the problem is that's how you design a run game,
but you figured it out way too late. And then
even within this game, you still went back to some
of the same stuff, like that's day one insall stuff
in the run game. Everything's not an RPO. Sorry to
a lot of bots, a lot of Chris Berman there.
I feel like, gosh, well, you.
Speaker 3: Can't use emojis, so you have to use.
Speaker 5: Sound of it. Sorry.
Speaker 4: I got excited. I get excited watching good run plays.
Speaker 2: Are just the plays that you're supposed to do. That's
how that's a run game. Your receivers and guess what
they show they could do it. You know why, because
it will never be harder than what they just had.
Those safeties were adding immediately. And guess what the receiver did.
He found a way every time, he found a way
to make the block. If you do that against ole miss,
I bet you would have won that game. You don't
won that game if you would have done those things
and not the RPO ish that continue to do like
you'd won the game, but you didn't, and so you didn't.
Speaker 3: And now here we are.
Speaker 5: There's a time of plays for RPO. But it's not
your crutch.
Speaker 2: No, it can be an addition, a little change of pace,
a little uh, let's get them.
Speaker 5: Here, part of the pacing part. Yes, the writ in
the book.
Speaker 2: If it's your main thing that you do in your
run game, you don't have a run game and LSU
didn't and that's why you've got three losses on the year.
Speaker 4: If you're game playing, the first fifteen has five RPOs
on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's your son.
Speaker 3: So that's what you're good.
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of cte O T B
Chance all good in the chat, all good endearment, this term.
Speaker 3: Of endearment here on this show. So yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Fact that the receivers digging out safeties feels innovative for
the l s U offense.
Speaker 3: Everything you need to know.
Speaker 5: Speaking about what it was, they did a good job.
They did it with attitude.
Speaker 3: They did probably begging to do it, like hey we'll.
Speaker 2: Do it, Hey, we'll do it.
Speaker 5: Well, do it.
Speaker 2: I don't have to run a meaningless hit you out,
my god? Well, you know what my hope is. We
don't have to worry about that anymore, even in this season,
because moves have been made and now you know what
it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 3: Even though you didn't come back to it in the
second half.
Speaker 2: All right, we will step away. Still a lot to
get to. We got a there's a eulogy coming up.
There's also also, like I really do want to get
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see be the next head football coach at LSU.
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bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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We're gonna go around the room. We're gonna give you
our top choice for who the next head coach of
the l Shoe Fighting Tigers is going to be. But
before we do that, if you've listened to us over
the last couple of weeks months, you know when we
lose somebody, we passed it over to Matt and he
remembers them.
Speaker 3: So Matthew turn it over to you.
Speaker 5: With a heavy heart.
Speaker 4: This one hits really closed all of us.
Speaker 5: We lost another one gone too soon.
Speaker 4: I don't know, ladies and gentlemen of Tiger Nation. Today
we laid a rest the Brian Kelly era at LSU.
When Kelly arrived from Notre Dame, LSU fans thought they
were getting the final piece, a proven winner, a steady
hand to restore the glory days. It began with confidence,
a promise, of process, and yes, a slight hint of
a Southern accent that seemed to appear overnight. They were
awkward dances with recruits, a few viral moments, and even
a death slam or two. He said he was keeping
the receipts, but by the end it felt like he
was just collecting excuses. Kelly arrived in Baton Rouge with
big expectations, experienced stability, and a track record of winning
everywhere he'd been, and for the moment, it looked like
he might bring LSU back to championship form. Yeah, they
were flashes, Jane Daniels Heisman, explosive offenses.
Speaker 5: And a brief, a brief, ever so slight taste of
relevance on the national stage. But as time went on,
the results didn't match the talk. No defense didn't find
its footing, The big game moment slipped away, and next
year became the most repeated phrase in Tiger country.
Speaker 4: The truth is simple, well simple. Brian Kelly's tenure ended
in failure. It fell far short of what l football demands.
The championships never came back, big wins didn't stack, and
somewhere along the way, the spark that makes LSU Lsu
never quite caught.
Speaker 5: Fire under his watch.
Speaker 4: So we closed the book on an era that began
with hope and ended with unmet expectations. The Brian Kelly
years will be remembered not for catastrophe, but for the
uneasy feeling that the Tigers should have been more. So,
rest easy, Brian Kelly era. As we turn our eyes
to a new future, a new hope. Whoever the next coaches,
we hope you bring back the toughness, the discipline, the
LSU way that was set, that set the standard for
so many years. We're all hungry for it. We all
want it, and we believe and hope that that man
will walk through those doors.
Speaker 5: And for that we'll always say, in our best borrowed accent,
go Tigers.
Speaker 3: Yes, well done, Matt. Well do I know stuff to
get there?
Speaker 5: That's tough for you.
Speaker 6: All.
Speaker 5: You're losing too many people this year.
Speaker 2: Now, we'll go around the room and uh yo, in
these moments it can be difficult, but you have to
move on.
Speaker 3: Somebody has to step in. You got to move on.
Speaker 4: Life, Life finds a way, Life continues on, Life continues on.
Speaker 2: So I'll pass it to you first, your top choice
to be the next leader.
Speaker 3: Fighting type.
Speaker 5: At this moment in time.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have a top choice right
now because they're so you know, I could say Lane Kiffin,
that's like the easy answer. I think everyone's gonna go to.
You could say Dan Landing. How unrealistic it would be.
Speaker 3: I don't think Dan's leaving.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he is either. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I said the one guy that I thought kind of
popped in my head first the other day yesterday, like
just thinking, and then you got Brent Keya, But you know,
Jeff Brohm kind of popped in my head just because
of the success they've had in the big games with
limited resources, with always behind the eight ball on from
a talent level at both Purdue.
Speaker 3: Had an record in the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: Record and it's at Purdue.
Speaker 4: Louisville is four and one against top five opponents, just
beating Miami two weeks ago. Like with with way less talent,
what could he do with far greater talent than resources.
That's intriguing. But there, I know there's a lot of
intrigue there. There's a lot of intriguing coaches from the
big school level, from the mediums and the small soul.
You could go all sorts of different rays. So I
don't really have my like clear cut like number one.
Just I don't want to get stuck in a bad contract.
I know that no more ten year contracts. No, don't
handicap the school. That's all I got, Elandra.
Speaker 3: So Jeff Brawm.
Speaker 4: Back me in the corner. That's the first person that
came to my head, like without doing any.
Speaker 6: Research, get a little bit of research.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 4: A lot of my research came to the day when
after they had beat Miami, I was like, oh my god,
that's a good record. And then it was like the
ant he was the antithesis of James Franklin gainst top
five opponents, Elandra.
Speaker 6: So I'm kind of with Matt where I don't have
like a clear person that stands out for me. I
feel like I'm the only one that cannot get behind
the lane. Kiffin want Sark turn textas around in like
two years, So I think he has He's really good
at play calling. If I had to do like a
really outlandish one that nobody's gonna like or agree with,
it would be that I also like Danie Lanning, but
also impossible not happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bran Key, I don't think Dan's leaving Brin.
Speaker 6: He's probably like the most realistic one that I would want.
Speaker 5: Yeah about the cat from uh Aresona State.
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham, Uh, I would love if Kenny Dillingham was
in the conversation. I think he checks a lot of boxes.
Offensive mine, young head coach, exciting head coach. You're not
going to beat him into the building, and you're not
going to ever outlast him in the building.
Speaker 3: He's one of those guys.
Speaker 2: He's always in the building, always preparing, always getting ready.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 2: He would bring a an energy and a youthfulness I
think to the job that I think would go a
long way. I just he he went to Arizona State,
he's from the area. He's from Tempe Scottsdale area. Again,
that's not saying those guys won't ever leave. I mean,
certainly it's been done before, but it's one of the
things to pay attention to.
Speaker 3: But Yeah, i'd love his name to be on the list.
Speaker 2: He's I had like one conversation with him, like the
first one I had with him, and I was like, coach,
I'm pretty sure i'd pull my hamstring running down on
kickoff for you right now? Like that kind of and
you would I would both of those would be true.
I'd do it and I would pull it. So yeah,
I would absolutely put his name into the conversation. And
I think he would deserve to be in the conversation.
Speaker 7: Uh tete, Yeah, I mean, look, you have to call
Dan Lanning. I don't know how realistic that is. Matt
was talking about ten year contracts. Don't back your school
into a corner. It's probably what you'd have to do
to get Dan Lanning. Like, I love the guy that
Lane too, right, Lane too. You're gonna have to pay
these guys thirteen million a year, give him like an
eight year deal.
Speaker 5: That that's that's what it's going to take for me.
It's Brent Key Georgia Tech.
Speaker 7: Like I need a guy that's gonna bring some physicality
back to this program. We're talking about it the other day.
Even when this team wins, I said, like I don't.
I don't like watching this team. They're not fun to watch.
Georgia Tech is fun to watch and it starts with
Brent Key. That's that's that's the guy I would go to.
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 2: I mean every name that Jeff brom Brent Key, Clark Lee,
Ken Dillingham.
Speaker 4: You look at the you're just I was just thinking
about like Georgia Tech being so much fun to watch
Brent Key, Vanderbilt with Clark Lee, Like it's fun to
watch the two quarterbacks. Both those guys have are like
Caveman meatthead. Yeah, like hit your head against the football
against a brick wall type guy. Like it's a guy
that you would not traditionally think whatever coming like LSU
would recruit or kind of get. But like they're fun
because of you know, the head coach quarterback. Yeah, Like relationship,
that's what you always look at. Like in the NFL
the great teams, the head coach and quarterback were both great,
right and especially together they were great. It's just funny,
like you just think about you just don't think of
those guys being the big top recruiting guys that maybe
not the most arm talent, not the guys that are
going to go to the NFL. But it just hard
knows programs and both those coaches have two quarterbacks with
very similar mindsets.
Speaker 7: Haynes on game day again like this week, can we
interview him every week?
Speaker 5: Absolutely great.
Speaker 4: Drop the s N and F mom on game day
right there. What what's crazy about?
Speaker 2: Like if you had a conversation with Clark and Brent,
it would be two completely different conversations.
Speaker 3: Their demeanor is not even related to each other.
Speaker 2: Like Clark is one of the smartest people I've ever
been around, which is crazy for a fullback. I tell
him all the time, I'm like, you're the smartest fullback
I've ever met. But that's just like that's who he is,
and it's it's a he's a deep thinker, and he's
certainly got some mean, nasty toughness about him, but it's
like with his actions more than anything. And like when
you interview Brent, like you think he's ready to fight,
Like he's almost like got his his fist is balled
up as he's doing the interview, like he's staying ready
in case somebody tries to sneak him ready, you don't
have to get ready, Like that's the that's like. And
I've interviewed him on person, on Zoom and everything. It's
always like that. But the one thing you know about
him is like if you tried him, they're going to
fight till they die.
Speaker 3: You know that about both of those guys. That's what
I want.
Speaker 2: Whoever that is, whoever that is, whoever comes in here,
is like, I'm gonna get it done or I'm gonna
die trying. Whatever in my life is in the way
of me getting it done is getting moved out of
the way. And that might seem harsh, it might seem
like a step too far, but that's just how I feel.
Whatever the coach, whoever it is, when he comes in here,
he has got to say from day one, what has
happened is not gonna happen anymore. And when teams play us,
they're gonna fill us, and they're gonna fill us the
next week and the next week and the next week
because we beat the hell out of him for four quarters.
And I'm gonna do everything in my power to get
that done. I am going to be in this building.
I'm not gonna go on vacations. I am going to
sit here and game plan for our opponents so I
can impose our will on said opponent. And if I
get it done, great, and if I don't, it's unaccept
and I'm going to die trying to do it. That's
what I want. Whoever that is whoever that is, I
don't care. I don't care the name. I don't really care.
You know, if it's celebrated, when whoever's interviewing that person,
whoever that is, board of supervisors, whatever president they select,
the governor, the adal, I don't care. But when you're
in that meeting, feel that on an elite level, like
walk out of that meeting not being able to deny
the passion that that person had.
Speaker 3: And if you don't know that, let me in the meeting.
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it for free.
You don't have to pay me a consultant, you don't
have to do anything. Just let me be in the meeting.
I promise you. If you have five guys in there,
I promise you, I'll give you the one that's going
to be the best for the job. As far as
getting his team ready to go and making sure that
they're prepared every single week and making sure that they're
the most physical football team in America, that they're the
most physical football team.
Speaker 3: In every game that the play.
Speaker 2: And if you can't tell that, pass that to somebody
that can, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: Flynn will do it.
Speaker 2: Laundry will do it tay that we'll do it, but
you got to lead that meeting knowing that they're getting
to work the second they get the job. It's the
only thing that matters to them in life outside of
their family, and they are going to lock themselves in
that building until that gets done.
Speaker 3: At an elite level.
Speaker 2: Not a good level, not even a great level, but
an elite level, and that's who should.
Speaker 5: Get the job.
Speaker 2: I agree on all accounts. You gotta pick it. I'll
do it, say I want, I'll do it right now.
We talked to too many people that around football. You
can tell them an interview if he has the right
DNA for this job.
Speaker 3: We work hard in Louisiana. We are gritty in Louisiana. Okay.
Speaker 2: We know what it takes to get a job done,
and it's not always pretty. That's why I try to say,
too gritty to be pretty. People in Louisiana get ish done.
And the next head coach should have that same mentality.
I don't care if he's from North Dakota, the state
of Washington, Arizona, the Northeast.
Speaker 3: Hell, he can be from Rhode Island for all I care.
Speaker 2: But when you talk to him, you got to know
that as soon as you sit down in the first
word that he says, you got to feel that. And
if you don't, he's not the right guy for the job.
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Speaker 6: It's always a good day to be an LSUL.
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Speaker 6: Be excited about the future, excited about the future.
Speaker 5: That's right. I think today for hope.
Speaker 2: Look, I think for where it was going and you
could see the direction it wasn't going to get any
better with the way it currently was than I think.
Speaker 3: Today is a day of hope. Today is a day that.
Speaker 2: The next time they get it, they get it right
and for the next time. It's not what the resume says,
it's but what the coach says about the program that
he's coming to because he wants to be at LSU
so god dang bad that he cannot wait to get started.
He wants to be at LSU so god dang bad
that he is going to drive himself here and he
is going to demand that he gets the job.
Speaker 3: It's going to be so god dang bad that he is.
Speaker 2: Going to drop everything in his life and say, family,
we gotta do it, We got to do it, because
this is where I gotta be.
Speaker 3: That's what I want whoever that is, whoever that person.
Speaker 4: What was done had to be done, it needed to
be needed to be done with the direction it was gone.
We didn't think it could be done because of the money,
the business part of the side of things. We didn't
know it could happen, but it did. Now here's the
hoping LSU gets it right. We believe we will always cheer,
We'll always run our chest.
Speaker 3: We thank you.
Speaker 2: Today goes about those three letters, I'll SU forever.
Speaker 3: Let's go top the bench.