Speaker 1: Ho then or whatnot.
Speaker 2: So Hello ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to an episode
we haven't done a long time. I hadn't tracked it
down yet, but I think it's like late twenty twenty
two or twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: We used to do these all the time.
Speaker 2: But I was telling this family, like, you know, Katie
had a kid, I had multiple kids, Taylor had a kid,
Clay had a kid, all these people. So it's just
like I was like, why why don't we do those off?
Speaker 1: Mike right, A.
Speaker 2: Bunch of you said kids and got really busy, but
we had so much more time.
Speaker 1: But what this is.
Speaker 2: This is the keep first GUA crossover because we're doing
this in honor you know, our tenures coming up. But
just in June, it was crazy. GUA has been around
for five years. It was weird because we got some
notification tweet. There's some random account that tagged Star Wars Ali. Yeah,
it's like some no, we know, it's just like celebrating
their five year anniversary. Is this is like no one,
I've never heard of anything. Okay, cool, but uh yeah,
that's what we're doing today. Other people are gonna be
popping in another GA people a little bit later for them.
Speaker 1: So that that's why people like, I'm popping in here,
popping there.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get going and yeah, we're just gonna
talk about random stuff, geek stuff like stuff catch up
and everything like that.
Speaker 1: But I'm dressed now and I'm joined by you know.
Speaker 3: I'm pre compatser excited to be here.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm doing the Field of Fields to the Field.
Speaker 5: The Man Without Fear Chris.
Speaker 6: Valgan, Katie Stars Lions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's been And you wouldn't even know what
because I was saying, people are just be joining so
and I did.
Speaker 1: We did. We just did intros now, so you wouldn't
even know that you just came in. But hey, the
secret you know. So how's it going, Joe?
Speaker 7: Oh, not too shabby. I just got done with interview.
Episode will be coming out on Tuesday. That was kind
of fun. Uh yeah, Joe. Oh, well, Joe, I'm host
of Walked to the Multiverse. The interview I just uh
did was for I was the author of the book
called Ilarium.
Speaker 1: I can't spell that. Hold on, I'm gonna try the.
Speaker 7: Uh Vitelarium Descent into the Void. There's some novel also
a kind of book, but it's a whole different matter.
But it's a novel about dystopian future, which is kind
of fun. But yeah, no, it's by Nick Cassabario and
uh yeah, really interesting, really kind of fun. I gotta
go word that book now because the book was really cool.
Speaker 2: I'll do the cheap plug there there it is right
there there you walking into the icy mountain and a
big spider in the background.
Speaker 4: So that Superman's house or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the assaulted.
Speaker 8: I mean that was the Nick Cage movie with a
giant spider in the third act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he fought a giant spider. So me and this
this guy does have long hair, so maybe it is.
Speaker 7: That guy is Roman Matthews. So yeah, Roman Matthews. Okay, yeah,
I mean Nick did a really good, really good sell.
I mean really, I really just did. The comic that
he sent me and I got to read the first
two issues. Was really cool. And the comic is basically
a from what he was telling me, and I know
it's a little spoiler for the episode, but is basically
the book itself into comic form. But no, it's a
it's a The book sounds awesome, so I gotta go
check that out at some point and go get that.
Speaker 2: How did you, like, do you know this person through
a friend or a friend or did they just hit
you up?
Speaker 7: They reached out to me nice, so I'm like, hey, yeah,
I can definitely come on, we can definitely figure this out,
and and uh cool, Yeah, I just I like that's
I mean, one of the things I love about Walk
through the Multiverse is being able to interview Kickstar the artists,
Kickstar authors and book authors and being able to get
their products out there to uh to people who may
not have known like myself, who may not have known
about that product.
Speaker 1: So have you turned anyone down yet? Has there been
one that didn't fit?
Speaker 2: One time? I didn't tell the guys one time. These guys, Uh,
there's like a someone's.
Speaker 1: Writing a book about pinballs and they wanted to come
on the show, and I just said, no, I don't think.
Speaker 6: Them.
Speaker 1: I just I don't think that's maybe name.
Speaker 9: It's like taking his quarter share and making a big I.
Speaker 1: Will ford you the email next time.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know if we need
to interview the pinball book guy, because I just we
don't have the time. We already are we already complain
we don't have enough time, and that's like, I don't
know if that's the right. Like, I don't know if
our audience is going to be like, oh where this
book sounds like it's more for both the we're walking
the multiverse.
Speaker 1: It feels like it fits through there, but pinballs.
Speaker 5: It'll screw up your algorithm. You don't want to do that,
you know.
Speaker 7: I haven't turned anyone down per se as much as
I have. There was one in the there's one in
particular recently where we had agreed to figure figure out
a day through record and then he kind of ghosted me,
and I'm like, well, that's kind of that kind of sucks.
He got back to me a few weeks later and
I'm like, yeah, hey, you know he apologized. I'm like, okay,
I still kind of want to interview you. Let's figure
something out. And then I never got back to him
because I kind of forgot because I was like, it
was a month of June and I got busy. And
then my one friend's like, no, he fucked you over before. No,
don't that was wrong, right? No, actually it wasn't. No,
it was the other one.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, all.
Speaker 5: Right, well that fits too.
Speaker 8: So anyway, I had to turn down someone decent for
World's Finest for a Creator Spotlight, and it wasn't. It
wasn't because they, you know, ghost to me at that point,
it was I wanted to do kind of a it's
a it's.
Speaker 5: A husband and wife.
Speaker 8: They were big in the industry, and they they were
promoting one of the kickstarters that they were doing.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately the kickstarter a little saucy.
Speaker 8: Totally fine with it, but in my line of work,
I don't need something necessarily too Yeah, William de Foe
and in his.
Speaker 5: New boo, but I'll put it in the private chat.
Speaker 8: I don't want to say it because he totally understood,
just didn't under it, just hated that because of people
can't disassociate like saying, well, they're not.
Speaker 5: I said, well, you know, in my.
Speaker 8: Line of work, I can't necessarily totally look like I'm
promoting things that may be questionable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, want your book to pop up on something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but next time, you know, send them our way
and then we'll yeah, we'll send you the Pinball people out.
Speaker 8: But I mean they were very nice, they're very understanding,
and actually see them pretty much once a year at
the Comic Con.
Speaker 5: So we we have good we have a good conversation.
Speaker 1: Just shaking their head. There's you know, there's Chris, and
there's guys screwed me over? Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 2: Because samthy Kay and Clay like you guys have been
doing some interviews the past couple of years. Yeah, we're
we're light on the interviews, you know, we we just
it's because we're Canadian.
Speaker 1: We tell people that and they're like, no, we don't
want to do that.
Speaker 2: But how has that gone for you with the because
you've been doing a lot of the publishing side.
Speaker 1: I know a lot last year happened, but how how
have all those been?
Speaker 2: Have you interviewed everyone that you've talked with or was
there someone that didn't You don't got offsee by name,
but it was somebody that didn't work out or just
somebody you're like, eh, maybe not gonna go this route.
Speaker 6: So we have asked for a couple interviews from Random
House World in a lot like I feel like Star
Wars podcasting. And maybe that's just because like my social
media area, like everyone I followed basically drops a star
worst author interview when these new books come out and
so because we're one of the newer podcasts, we tend
to fall by the wayside. The two. Tom the editor
from Random Housewards, We've done two interviews with He's been awesome.
He actually volunteered the first interview we did and was like, yeah,
I'd love to get you guys out there. So we
did that with him the first time and that was awesome,
and then the second interview with him was really cool too,
just learning about the process like mega behind the scenes.
And then the two author interviews. I basically hounded Adam
Christopher was like like I talked with him in his DMS,
like it was like, I'd love to get an interview
for this book because it was the Luke Skywalker book
that he did Shadow of Sith, And if y'all had
listened to anything I've done Star Wars Legends is like
how I'm a finn girl for Star Wars. And so
I was super excited about having the first Luke Skywalker books.
So when that was announced I stayed on it. And
then Steven Barnes for Mace Wendu The Glass of This
he messaged us and like followed us on Patreon. So Steven,
if you're listening, but yeah, he joined our Patreon, was like,
thanks for the awesome review, would love to talk to
you guys. Here's my email, and so like, sure, we've
missed out on a lot of interviews that like when
we've really we wanted one, we've like hunted for it,
or it's just kind of dropped into our lab.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what's so funny about because like when
you say with the podcast, it's crazy how there's so
many podcasts around the world are massive, and so many
celebrities that have them now, but there's still so many
places that if you don't have a written website that
has reviews up there, they they don't even look at
the same thing with like, uh, screens and stuff. That's
why we never get looked for screeners because it's just
like you don't have a website, you don't.
Speaker 1: Have a bunch of wrin stuff.
Speaker 2: And I kind of got it maybe when we started,
but now it's like podcasts are just massive and so
many people have them, and there some of them can
be such a big deal. So it's like I feel
like it should be the same way, like if you
have enough of a following, I guess it's just harder
for someone to go through all that content.
Speaker 1: To see if they like.
Speaker 2: Where you can pull up a review for five movies
five shows, read them quickly, or even have an intern
versus us doing like a three hour review on something.
But I'm still kind of hoping that I'll change and whatnot,
because yeah, screeners and stuff. I never hear back from
like anything, and I've given up a long time ago.
But at the beginning, it was just kind of like, yeah,
there's nothing. The only thing I tried once is one
time on Twitter. Uh, a producer of the Saw movies
liked an episode of ours and I sent a message
and they just go So they even followed us. I
sent a message to want to get.
Speaker 1: Him on there and then.
Speaker 2: I pull up he still does he still he still
follows us.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I never never did that interview for
a song.
Speaker 6: Well I didn't like y'all know that. I used to
do written reviews and stuff and I worked for some
pretty decent sites and we still had trouble getting screeners
and stuff. So I think, like, especially after COVID, people
are just struggling with it, and so it's like who
you know, which was why? Yeah, like Adam Christopher suggested
us when an interview fell through of his and suggested
us to Random House and was like, hey, these people
have asked if they could do an interview with me, Like,
let's get them plumped up. And that's how we got
started working with Random House Worlds. Like, we didn't get
any advanced readers copies before that. So thank you, Adam Christopher.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hope that happens. But it's uh because
even then, I'll see lots of sites that are the
are more on the writing side, and sometimes their following
is so small, but they're getting these screeners.
Speaker 1: I just don't even there's a site that I've fallen.
Speaker 2: It's like, i'd say about ninety percent a wrestling website,
but they still get and they're not even like a
massive wrestling website, but they still get.
Speaker 1: Screeners for X, Y and Z shows. They post those reviews.
I'm like, this is in your main thing, so you
know it's you know.
Speaker 6: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. I don't know, you know, Dale
used to interview some you interview people all the time
for Cryptic c News, Right.
Speaker 10: I've turned some people down just because they're just because
they're being they're being weird.
Speaker 9: There's this one guy.
Speaker 10: His agent found me and was like, hey, I got
someone that I want you to interview if you're interested,
and I checked out their their history went on. I
was like, okay, yeah, this guy's writing some books. You know,
he seems pretty well off, well educated.
Speaker 9: Well informed. Let's let's get him on the show.
Speaker 10: So got his contact information, reached out, and we were
back and forth between like two dates, and then finally
I said, okay, like, I can't do uh this third
date that you proposed. And then a week later he
sent me an email saying all right, I'm I'm available
for this date and I said I responded.
Speaker 9: I was like, no, I'm not available for that date.
Speaker 2: And then the day that was the day and you
said that you couldn't do like you told him you couldn't.
Speaker 9: You told him I couldn't do it.
Speaker 10: And then I get the day of it's like six
thirty and he's checked my email and he's like, hey,
send me the link. I'm ready to go, and I'm like,
I'm done with this guy.
Speaker 9: This is a joke. So I didn't end up following
through with that.
Speaker 1: Oh he's still waiting. He's still he's still waiting in
that room.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he told me he was supposed to be here.
Speaker 6: The Legends says he still walks here waiting for that interview.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And you gotta you gotta kind of like I mean,
you guys know, if you're doing the interviews, you gotta
kind of siphon through the the you know, the find
the right person to break it down and the movie interview.
Speaker 2: A bunch of different people For people that don't know
like he there's other podcast is you know, urban myths
and legends and stuff. So there's a lot of different
And I'm not saying that, but you've even said that.
Sometimes you've talked to people that I said, oh, this
isn't like a genuine sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, like there's just some yes.
Speaker 9: And that's the thing too.
Speaker 10: A lot of people that I try, and you know,
I connect with and I ask, oh, can I like
sure your story or whatnot? And then I'll go a
step further sometimes and be like, hey, would you actually
like to come on the show and be interviewed? And
a lot of people, of course they're apprehensive, but some
people are like, oh, yeah, I've never done one before.
Speaker 9: Sure I'll do it.
Speaker 10: And i don't have a lot of interviews, but I've
got a little catalog which.
Speaker 9: Is kind of nice.
Speaker 10: But when you met started to bring up interviews, I
was taking back in time to remember that notes. When
we did Dylan for that guy that did that Superhero
we met a like tripos and we wrote down notes
for the interview, and then we called them up and
we interviewed the notes guy.
Speaker 12: That was so long ago. That was like probably twenty
sixteen or something, that was probably early.
Speaker 1: Years of the week person. I have it because.
Speaker 2: I got a story that guy at one point, like
years later message again, so I got the date here
when it was.
Speaker 1: So you guys did that interview in twenty eighteen, and
then in twenty twenty two, he sent me like three
paragraphs about how they were appearing at wonder Con and
all this stuff. And I said, oh, that that's cool,
but what is this concerning? And then he said, Oh,
I'm just informing you all, that's all. I'm like, you're
informing us that you got a panel going on. He's
like yes, And then I said, oh that's good.
Speaker 2: Like like like I was just like I was question
like is he wanted me to promote it or something
like that, and then he just like lost it on me.
Speaker 1: He blocked us.
Speaker 2: So he was really really upset that I was just
not like I was like like I was like, well,
I don't know, like who you throw like a retweet
or something, but like what Like I was just very say.
Speaker 9: A guy coming to you about the pinball book or whatever?
Speaker 1: No, no, that guy, I just I don't think so.
Speaker 2: But yeah, he just got really offended to Like, oh,
I was like, well, what do you want us to
do with this information?
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a hay gee first.
Speaker 2: It was just like a block of text that he's
sending to random people, to a bunch of people, and.
Speaker 1: That's so it's okay, So like what what's the deal
with this?
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I thought you supported content creators and just block.
Speaker 1: So I think he's going through something in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: But you know, check out his there's a comic book,
there's you know, there's a few, there's somewhere. So but
uh yeah, no, we we haven't done too many. So
but uh yeah, so how is uh I don't know
where where we wanna go? Do they wanna have a
topic we want to go to first, talk about some
broad strokes, talk about you know, past five years, you know,
and I think, I guess, man, I guess, I guess.
Actually I should say that I should say a few
thank yous to a few people that might not appear,
because yeah, I know Brent, he's not in town, so
he's not gonna be there. But a big thing to
Brent for taking over Marvel lines for him for many years,
A big thank you.
Speaker 1: I had message.
Speaker 2: Uh, I tried to get Greg on this, but he
never uh, he never responded to me back. He's responded
to me before, but it's always like weeks in between.
So after the fact didn't happen. But a big as
I usually say shout out to Greg because we all
wouldn't have met if it wasn't for him, because of
civil servants, and he was on for many years.
Speaker 1: And then Weird Science they did our beer run with us.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how we don't talk about comic
books that much anymore because it's it's more just just show.
Speaker 1: It was Weird Science and they're gone.
Speaker 2: Then Chris's show is retired and so like that, and
that's why I guess I could start there, because how
do you feel in now since the World's Finance has
been done? Do you also it was a lot of work?
But do you miss it every once in a while
do you get like it sure, you're like you're happy
it's buried.
Speaker 9: I missed it.
Speaker 8: I mean the it's the other things that it led
me to link up with other comic focused shows at
that point, so I do it.
Speaker 2: I was really offended you were doing a show on
a different network when I told them why you stream
Yard Login?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was it was coming about and there's
some there's some other benefits that come along with it
that were hard to pass up for for collecting. But it,
as I said, when going to you know, Heroes con
and things like that, I still have those connections with
the creators, and you know, the the other show I'm on,
they do interviews too with creators. So it's going to
allow me to scratch that che every once in a while.
But it just I guess it unfortunately has got to
the point where it kind of what happened with Joe,
where you know, a guest ends up kind of ghosting
you and changing things last minute. It got more problematic
than what it what I wanted to set out to do.
But once I just said all right, I'm gonna get
to one hundred episodes and then and then call it
and again it was Hey, it changed my.
Speaker 5: Life and allowing to be on the network.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and you met a lot of other like
creators and whatnot, like just combook people and stuff, and
especially yours, because like it wasn't just an interview. You
always have to read all Like obviously you've probably read
a lot of the graphic novels or complicts that people
would be requesting, but even then you want to brush
up on it.
Speaker 1: You get the information at least with the interview is like.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can just kind of talk to them about
their stuff, but if it's about a specific topic like that.
Speaker 8: And now the changeover in the job in the last
four or five months, yeah, I'm kind of glad it
kind of Yeah, it was good timing. Yeah, so I
missed it, but I could always say that better than
the hat was. It was a show that was my
own and I got to lead it to beyond where
I ever thought it could be.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well yeah, and then you you kind of
hold it with a well maybe seem La or maybe
not because I said nothing behind trous Hines. But with
you Heines and Katie, you guys were the one host
on all your shows. You guys have gone through now
you know, multiple co hosts now, but you guys have
held that down for years. So congrats on that and stuff.
Speaker 5: So and then survived.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah somehow yeah. So but yeah, Katie, how's it
been these past five years? What what you've been thinking
about for now? Because it's kind of crazy. That's half
a decade now for go, We're going ten years and
it doesn't feel like I guess it's we did start
during COVID the network, but it just feels odd.
Speaker 1: That's already fun.
Speaker 6: It's definitely insane, and I would be remissed without bringing
up the now you found me on Super Civil Servants
because of my Daredevil hot take, like that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still do.
Speaker 6: But you know, like coming in with two shows, it
definitely felt like a hot mess, like to start because
and no idea what I was doing. I never hosted
my own show before on my own and so taking
on two of those because like Nathan was there for
Star Wars Alliance, but like I did all the planning
and stuff for it to start, and so like starting
it during code probably a blessing because I was able
to put more into it than really I would have
been able to do it right now. Yeah, and like,
don't get me wrong, I love doing slice of film.
I loved getting in movies, but it did start to
feel like homework and sometimes I, like Chris said, sometimes
you do want to scratch that itch and like bring
it back. But at this point, I'm a new mom,
like still figuring stuff out.
Speaker 13: I have my own jobs.
Speaker 6: Like, so it definitely Star Wars Alliance is definitely where
I feel the most comfortable. And Clay stepping into the
coho's role has been absolutely amazing. I feel like we've
had a laugh for the past four years that he's
been a co host on that and so yeah, I'm like,
I don't know where I would be without this network, honestly,
like it's brought me a lot of blessings.
Speaker 2: So just Trash and Daredevil somewhere else, you know, on
Twitter or whatnot. But yeah, hopefully Clay will be join
us a little bit because you guys, you guys got
a good back and forth and you know, hopefully you know,
you guys finally get into Star Wars movie.
Speaker 1: Think about that.
Speaker 2: I would never thought when we started the network that
the entire time this network has been alive, they've not
reviewed a single Star Wars movie because the time has coming,
not a single one for five years, you know, because
I know.
Speaker 6: Like a lot of people are like, well, like books
are just so much, but like books is all Star
Wars has really right now. Yeah, and of course there's
comics too, but like comics being a monthly thing, it's
a little more chaotic than books and stuff, and we
do try to hit like the trades that release and everything.
Speaker 2: Because even if Ahsoka is the only known live action
show right now, right that's coming out, yeah, which is
kind of scary because like Marvel's just doing one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marvel's just doing one.
Speaker 2: And I guess that's why maybe Star Wars is actually
gonna start doing movies again, because I just don't want
to spend the money on Disney Plus. But it's just
and it's crazy. We don't really have a date for
ah Soca. We just got I don't even know where
those images came from.
Speaker 10: Last week where it was like Ezra Empire magazine didn't
they Empire for.
Speaker 6: San Diego Comic Con because of like I think, I
oh gosh and terrible with the background people. But like,
the Special Effects Company has a panel at San Diego
Comic Con, so they put that out and so it
type was an Empire exclusive, but it was for the panel.
Speaker 2: Oh I see, okay, Yeah, well hopefully Manland and Grogu
you know, gonna You're gonna be good next year. I mendo,
I got I got my I got my worries.
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Katie's the same as me on actually you might be
harsher than me. Sometimes it comes to felony. But yeah,
so sorry, Taylor, no flony love here. Taylor's still Taylor's
still trying. He's still trying to pitch this man every year.
Speaker 1: Why he's the best.
Speaker 9: Give him a movie and see what he can do.
Speaker 1: You said that the show.
Speaker 6: They gave him Clone Wars, which fair good show. They
gave him Rebels, good show. But like jumping into live action,
the dude's a hot mess. The dude is a hot mess.
Speaker 2: Oh Clay, he's just joined at the right time, talking about.
Speaker 9: Put some love on the fire here.
Speaker 14: Oh god, what are you all talking about Oh God, God,
So I have a love hate relationship with the Looney.
Speaker 13: We've talked about it. You love to hate him? Well, no,
like we we love to love him and we love
to hate him.
Speaker 11: Like that's that's the that's the problem is that he
when he cooks, he cooks, and when he has burnout,
dear god, it's kind of disgusting.
Speaker 13: But like the one thing that I always go.
Speaker 11: Back to, UH, And I have yet to say this
on air just because I think it's absolutely hil no, no, no, it.
Speaker 1: Actually canceled both our shows.
Speaker 11: It It actually goes back to UH to geek verset Uh.
I think the finale of season three of Mandalorian when
you guys used chat GBT to yeah.
Speaker 1: Because you're so disappointed the finane.
Speaker 11: And you guys joked about like you don't know which
one was better. That's that's where I'm like a little heartbroken.
Is that, Like we can just over the years to
talk about how Ai slop is absolutely discussed, but we
legitimately joked about, oh crap, chat GBT made a really
hilariously stupid but yet like on par Dave Filoni ending,
so yeah, it's it's I don't know how to feel
about it sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we're gonna have to see but yeah, Clays,
just join us. How's it going. How's how's life going?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 13: Life is going decently.
Speaker 2: You always got something, something's always.
Speaker 11: I know, for real, it's been it's been a while
since I've it's been a while since I've seen a lot.
Speaker 13: Of you guys's faces.
Speaker 11: Actually, yeah, but if people didn't know, I now work
at a Lunar Distribution, which is now mostly the top
dog when it comes to distributing comics. Uh, And so
there has just been a lot of drama going on
along with that, now that Diamond Distribution is no longer
a thing.
Speaker 5: Would be comics if there wasn't drama in the industry, That.
Speaker 13: Is so true. But yeah, just dealing with a lot
of that, and just.
Speaker 11: Like seeing this side of the comic book world is very,
very wild and very sometimes very stupid.
Speaker 13: To be completely OUs with you, there's some things that
I cannot say, but I I I.
Speaker 6: Work with some publishers that I.
Speaker 11: Exactly there's there's just some there's just some publishers that
I work with that I'm just like, how are we
making comics still today?
Speaker 13: If this is how things are going about.
Speaker 7: Man say the name.
Speaker 11: Yeah, well no, like it's just like, uh, the thing
with that I talked to you about you the thing
that I showed.
Speaker 13: You guys yesterday.
Speaker 11: Like my boss Legit said, Hey, we are talking to
DC tomorrow at San Diego Comic Con.
Speaker 13: I'll bring this up.
Speaker 11: As far as leality goes, there's like a retailer out
there that is selling stuff on eBay that is AI
generated sexually explicit art books.
Speaker 8: That good thing I ended World's Finest before they came
to calling.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, so so.
Speaker 11: And so, like we didn't know what we're gonna do
with them because they they added their account to Lunar
Distribution and we're like, should we sell these guys books?
Should we you know, help feed the fire and everything?
But my boss was just like, oh no, we're talking
to DC tomorrow about it. I was like, oh shit,
that was quick. Cool, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting the next because YouTube, I
don't know if they've done it or they're gonna do
it when they announce that hole they're gonna put. Uh,
you can't monetize the AI trailers or the monetization is
going to go.
Speaker 1: To the companies, so they've already done it, had they
already got Okay, yeah, I wasn't sure about that.
Speaker 2: So because there's there's so when you search trailers nowadays,
especially for the big movies, most of them you'll get,
you know, a couple of the tops, which are the
real ones, but then all the rest are these fake
ones and the most fake poster but they are. They
have their biggest they have the biggest views, like sometimes
just as much as the trailers. And it's just it
reminds me of an image I saw someone was sharing,
uh like a it was like a meme going around,
but it was a real conversation. Someone screencapped the conversation
they're having with their mom, and their mom sent them
a trailer for Titanic too, and the guy was like, well, no, mom,
that's ah, that's fake and she's like, well, I guess
we'll see, and it's like no, but it's not a
real movie.
Speaker 1: They've at least with the fake stirs.
Speaker 2: Back, like that's what was happened last decade, where it
was those fake Facebook posters that would always fool people,
But now it's these trailers and they do I get
some of them are probably just watching them for fun,
but some people I bet are watch them because they
think it's the real thing.
Speaker 7: Every time I would try and find a picture for
any like any episode, I would try to when when
I upload an episode for the show and like I'm
looking for Reacher or Last of Us and I'm looking
for a picture and it's like showing a scene that
is one hundred said not in the episode. I'm like,
what in the Like for Reacher, example, it's always uh,
Alan Richton his Reacher character strapped in the chair with
like no shirlo on chest, all out, and then whatever
female character was in the episode also like fairly clad
strapped in a chair. I'm like, that did not happen.
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, My my family basically sends me anything nowadays
and is like is this legitimate? And I'm not as
on social media as I used to be, but I'm
still able to identify it, thankfully. But yeah, I'm like
the filter for everything pop culture through my family.
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's now I'm seeing reached like like you're gonna
enjoy see like a trailer for Reacher three with Tom Cruise,
like all the stuff that's not ever being made, but.
Speaker 5: Those Avengers doomsday trailers are quite entertaining well.
Speaker 2: And that's why it's not a spoiler for Dylan KM
seen f F. But like because I on the review and
I'm not gonna say what it was, but on the
review I brought up there was the day of fantast
four coming out, there was the postcred scene leak, but
it wasn't the postcred scene he was.
Speaker 1: It was an an a high one.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it's it's pretty like, don't get wrong,
this stuff's getting better. It's but there's always that stuff
where they go to a certain character and he says
a line and he sounds the most robotic you've you've
ever so it's like everything he's like looking completely fine.
It looks very similar to the movie, you know, like
the static, the color, like it's like, okay, they got
that whoever went to the AI, like they clearly saw
four and plug this in there. But then you switch
to the actor and they say their line and it's
just robotic.
Speaker 1: But but there's many time it's not right.
Speaker 2: There's those creepy videos of the the AI being like
so are AI and they're talking to you about why
they're AI.
Speaker 1: Or I know Kirkland and Taylor really like these.
Speaker 2: Stupid bigfoot AI videos and with the selfies that they're talking
there so good.
Speaker 8: Was it with the apes and saying I just got
out of this just those have been all over the place.
Speaker 5: It's I get a good laugh atou on TikTok so.
Speaker 11: But there was also going around TikTok I think about
like a month ago, every popular video and even trailers
they were making like babies. They like every everything a baby,
and I was like, that's just I don't know, it's
just creepy.
Speaker 8: Some people can make babies, some people can't write Travis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you saying just because I have movies movies? Okay,
I thought you were. We had too many.
Speaker 5: Kids, believable looking baby, another one's still trying.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah there's some there's some bad movies out
right now with some bad CGI is going on. Yeah,
it's yeah, it's it's an interesting situation. But yeah, well
we'll see what happens. But yeah, we're done for Marvel
and DC movies now. Now we got shows. We got
what we got Peace Baker and then wonder Man, which
is who Okay here I want to ask this who
here's seeing Ironheart. That's not Chris and I okay, okay, okay.
So I wasn't sure because I no one, no one
dropped in the guh chat.
Speaker 1: I have seen Ironheart. I don't think. I can't remember.
Maybe I was.
Speaker 13: I was a little late on it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and it was because yeah, it was like
we were trying to watch like three things at a time,
and Matt and I are still at the point where
we're like, okay, we can watch things together, and so
it takes us a hot minute.
Speaker 7: Of course, it also the help that they dropped three
episodes and then the other three episodes.
Speaker 6: I don't like this and or was so much. It
was so hard to review, Like, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: Not a fan that and I'm not. It's not as
bad as Peacemakers. Just gonna be one episode every Thursday.
But yeah, I don't like the six yeah for now,
but I think that'll stick.
Speaker 1: But then wonder, man, I don't know. I don't know
what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I bet that I think they're gonna be like Echo.
I bet they're gonna do drop it all all I think.
So I think, yeah, it's Christmas time, they're gonna be
focused on Avatar.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna care about.
Speaker 4: One of the man, like, because what if? Right, it
was like every day pretty much.
Speaker 7: Over the eight days or a week ago.
Speaker 6: It's an animated show versus a live action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then echo they did that, and then I
I appreciate that they had, Yeah, yeah, go on the
red carpet or the Blue carpet for a Fantastic four
and character as the actor, Like, Okay, that's fun. But
I just I just don't think they're gonna pump that
show out at all.
Speaker 5: But says Marvel Studios.
Speaker 1: Does he see Marvel Studios, Yeah.
Speaker 8: Because they put they put it in all their their
upcoming stuff as promoted. But we still don't know. Here's
another thing we still don't and we don't know zombies yet.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, no, that's October. I thought it was I
thought October. I thought so okay, yeah, and no, Dylan,
we were asking if him going on the Blue Carpet's.
Speaker 1: Cannon like that.
Speaker 4: I'm saying I would.
Speaker 2: I would like that if they did like the Shea
Halt thing where they kind of make some fun in
world references, or if anyone.
Speaker 1: Saw like the Last Matrix.
Speaker 2: But I wonder if she all scared them and they're like, oh,
we don't want to break the fourth wall too much
or mention Kevin fig and yet da da So but
let's see Marble Zombies but uh okay, and then iawa
Kon is out next week and then they're all just
binge drop.
Speaker 4: A weekly thing. Or is that all at once?
Speaker 5: All ones?
Speaker 13: All one?
Speaker 2: So you got ones, you got zombie all ones. I
imagine that will be all ones in the next year.
Speaker 6: Season coming out in October and not all at once.
Speaker 1: Oh, Visions is October two.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that the other day because
I want to rewatch those so, oh it's good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I watched stuff that's probably one of the best
things that Star Wars took a chance on it, and
I'm glad they they allowed.
Speaker 5: You know, because they're so like you know, one could
say Marvel too.
Speaker 8: But Star Wars is very protective out of everyone about
what how they do things things like that for so much,
so like all the non canond stuff is legends now
and they don't want to acknowledge it.
Speaker 11: So I was about to say Disney is very careful
with how are portrayed with stars.
Speaker 8: Oh, true, true, But I mean the fact that they
they allowed this to be out there. Yes, we all
know it's not canon, but they keep allowing other studios
to get a chance to play with the toys in
a way that you.
Speaker 5: Know, people's like, I want to know them more about this.
Speaker 8: I want to see these characters, like the Ronan one
that they created a whole novels around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still want to read that. I was it
that end up being good?
Speaker 13: Yeah? It was actually really really fun. Now, I will
say it is one that you kind of have to
pay attention to because they literally change.
Speaker 11: They literally change the entire way you look at Star Wars.
Speaker 2: So the way that it's still cannon, right, it's still
like it's not it's not canon, so cool.
Speaker 11: The way the way that the Force works and visually
how it works is completely different.
Speaker 13: It almost seems very magic based.
Speaker 11: So it's it's less about like this like very weird
entity of like in a supernatural state.
Speaker 1: Yeah, more just almost right, yeahh.
Speaker 11: And and this is more of like something that you
would see and look that of like a dungeons and
dragons typing.
Speaker 13: It's it's very visually magical.
Speaker 6: I am very interested to see if they keep the
novel Cannon to the show because of the sequel to
the duel that's coming out in Sight three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just love it one time for Star
Wars and I said this for the other brands too,
but I would love it if they announced that they
are doing a Star Wars movie like that, but it's
not connected anything. I don't think the GA is really
in the care If it's a good movie, they're just
gonna see it.
Speaker 1: And if you just say it's years before, like I'd
love it, they're just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna let one of those vision stories something
like that go and get a massive budget.
Speaker 1: But they're probably just.
Speaker 6: A little too imagine they're going to do a cut
of the Ninth Jedi TV series for that, I would
say Ninth Jedi TV series is happening.
Speaker 11: Okay, Yeah, I would say either the ninth the Ninth
Jedi or the one that they fought for uh actual
awards was.
Speaker 13: The Village Bride yep, I think was the title of it.
Speaker 5: Yep, I got to look that up.
Speaker 1: There's so many of them.
Speaker 6: But because all three so the Duel, the Village Bride
and the Ninth Jedi getting sequels, and then the Ninth
Jedi is getting the TV series. Yeah, I think the
Ninth Jedi is is that released it seven or twenty
twenty six, Clay.
Speaker 13: I think it was twenty seven, Yeah, because.
Speaker 1: That's a book or a TV show they're doing.
Speaker 6: That's a TV show, So.
Speaker 2: They're doing just like an animated show about the village Bride.
Speaker 13: The Ninth Jedi.
Speaker 11: Okay, Yeah, that was the one where and spoilers for
anybody who hasn't seen Vision season one, but there's like
a father and daughter. Uh. He he's a he's a
lightsaber forger and he was apparently on a mission to
go send the lightsabers to what looks to be like
a new uh Jedi council or like another rebirth of
like some sort of accumulation of Jedi and it just
and like the really big twist is that like there
was what we would probably guess of as the Sith
was like eavesdropping and knew.
Speaker 13: About this meeting and everything, and it kind of goes
all haywire but really fun.
Speaker 11: Like I when we first reviewed it, I said that
I would love an animated movie or series of of
that one show or that one episode.
Speaker 13: Now we got it, So that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I hope we get more of that stuff.
But like I said before, I think what's gonna happen
is next year. Well, I don't know if it's gonna
make a billion. I'm not with Dylan and Taylor over there.
I think man Lurin's making a billion, but I think
he'll do well. And then we're just gonna get more
of that type of stuff.
Speaker 6: And I think you may have like Star Wars fatigue
from movies. So you might have people who are like
fatigue movie.
Speaker 1: We haven't thought movies.
Speaker 7: What do they get fatigue on k I'm good fatigue.
Speaker 6: They'll know I go to bed at a half hour ago.
Fatigue was the wrong word. But like, people haven't seen
a Star Wars movie, So I think people might go, oh,
there's a Star Wars movie. I'm gonna go see that.
So you might have that because it's been a while.
Speaker 1: But it's like anti fatigue.
Speaker 6: That sounds like yeah, I can't think.
Speaker 11: Maybe well, and not not only that, but there is
a small worry of like some people and this is
probably a very small portion percentage of people that are
gonna be like, oh, there hasn't been a Star Wars
movie and so long, is it really worth it trying
to get back into it, blah blah blah, and they
probably won't, you know, watch it until it's probably unstreaming
or something. So that can possibly hurt. But I don't
think the demographic for that is big enough to cause
any real harm to a box office.
Speaker 9: I think you're gonna get the Avatar effect.
Speaker 10: You know, it's been a while, haven't seen anything.
Speaker 9: Pop up in theaters related to it, and people are
just gonna flock.
Speaker 10: Because it it's just it's, oh, it's been so long.
Speaker 1: Travis, five more months, I get that pizza from Clay. Finally.
This is like a three year old bet.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what was what was the official bet?
Speaker 2: He bet me that Sonic three was gonna do better
than Avatar three because at one point there the same
release day, Yeah, the Avatar got bump and then Avatar
two became the third biggest movie all time.
Speaker 13: So I feel pretty that was that so disgusting.
Speaker 2: Taylor, Taylor, maybe a terrible box off or a terrible
bet yesterday during our Dexter episode.
Speaker 10: So pizzas no, no, no, that was not you're sharing
with Travis.
Speaker 9: That's what the bet was you're sharing.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, me and Clay still got a couple because he
beat me. I said, I said, what was the last
cell of the game? I said, that was when game
the year, no matter what.
Speaker 2: But then I got beat by uh the old bowlers
Gate Yeah, and then yeah, I'm and then I got uh,
I think one more year and the Spider Man bet
because I said, in the next five years, we'll see
Toby and Andrew again live action. So I got again.
A lot of stuff happened straight in and I thought so.
I thought Sony was gonna move a lot quicker after
knowing home because I thought, oh, this is a this
is a layup for them, Like everyone's everyone's happy, Toway's back,
everyone's like like with loving Andrew.
Speaker 1: This seems really easy to do, right, and it's not.
But I got to. I got to the Sember twenty
twenty six. There's still time.
Speaker 2: I got Doomsday and Noah or Doomsday Inspider Man four.
Speaker 1: I got a chance, I got two more.
Speaker 11: So here's so here's the question though, because I I
haven't had the chance to listen to the last two
episodes of Marvel Alliance, and I still need to listen
to the last Geek first episode. I'm not entirely sure
if you guys had talked about it or not. Saw
asked here all of the news that we kind of
got about the confirmation on the ground it's story for
uh brand New Day.
Speaker 13: Is Marvel allions.
Speaker 5: We're not talking about it till next week.
Speaker 13: Until next week.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well but sorry, Clay, before you'll dive into that again,
I've already said, has passed my bedtime.
Speaker 13: I'm like, you're gonna head out.
Speaker 6: So I'm thinking I'm gonna go guys tonight too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, of course to hear the baby.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, guys listen to Showers Liliance on Wednesdays.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 13: Bye.
Speaker 11: But my question to you guys, now that it is
confirmation to be a grounded story, do you think that
they are willing to wiggle in some sort of multiversal thing?
And and that's and that's what I would I would
I would ask Travis because currently it's scheduled to release
win July July.
Speaker 2: Yeah, between Secret Wars and before now remember yeah they
used to be May.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So does the bet include post credits?
Speaker 1: I think it was just appearance. I don't. I don't
think there was in a movie or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So don't try that, don't try to back tell I.
I guess I'll leave it up to the fannel here.
Speaker 1: But I think that includes that me and Dylan have
a bet right now. That's also contentious right now with
our AVD stuff. But Dylan's getting a pizza. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're they're doing everything with Alien predat right now, just
like they're putting Arnold back in it, like Alien Predator
is happening.
Speaker 5: I watched that.
Speaker 8: I was a sequence cool, but it was just like, oh,
that's it all right?
Speaker 5: Whatever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I wonder like, did they not, like did
Arnold not say yes before and then they did it after?
Speaker 5: They for what they did?
Speaker 2: They didn't, but I just wonder why why now, I
guess but.
Speaker 10: Because it was the future, right they that interview he
was talking about the future of this character and.
Speaker 9: What not, So that was just a no.
Speaker 2: But I mean so they so we're getting DLC for
if people don't know for the context, we're getting DLC
for movies now, which Alien Wrongs was already did because
they fixed up the.
Speaker 4: Cats, the first movie to do DLC.
Speaker 1: Cats did that, and then there's a couple others ble cut.
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's got to be another movie.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I would say back to stuff.
Speaker 11: I was gonna say lucasfilm with Star Wars would be
one of the first if we're counting that stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh George yeah, oh yeah, he's yeah, he was doing
DLC for years.
Speaker 4: They went away from cats. Okay, they need.
Speaker 16: No But I genuinely do feel like in the last
five years there was a big hubub about a movie
doing that that they were like they changed something, yeah
with the release, but I can't remember what it was though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happening more and more. But yeah, what happened
was prederor Killed Killers came out. It's happening with DECKX
right now.
Speaker 5: The DLC.
Speaker 17: Was the first one, but whatever they they Predick Killers
Killers come out in June and has that post credit
where it just shows and or mid Thunder and then
now they did one with shows Danny Glover and Arnold
and that's where it's and now it's live on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: You can watch the tear when you're like, oh, they're
setting up for the future. I'm asking why didn't they
have that in June?
Speaker 7: Though, yeah, I should have because it would be nice.
Speaker 1: If they did, it was quiet and the reason why
they didn't you said, Oh, they're just set up the future.
What does that mean? What does that mean?
Speaker 10: They just want people to have it in the back
of their mind that these two characters are probably going
to come back in the live action.
Speaker 1: But why didn't they do that? June is what I'm saying.
Like that when it first released.
Speaker 9: Because they didn't talk to Arnold yet I'm sure or something.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the check didn't clear. That's a must have happened,
Like you must probably.
Speaker 4: Saw everyone online being like they had that idea and
they're like, oh shit.
Speaker 10: But they had they had Glover's stuff because I was
announced that they had cut that, but they didn't mention
anything about Arnold because remember those those remember his his
what was it the sketches or like his his scenes.
Speaker 9: Something was revealed for him.
Speaker 10: I remember I shared in the discord, just that they
animated his character or whatnot, but they didn't put him
in the movie. They kind of but there's no mention
of Arnold at Also.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really don't know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: We talked about as many times Arnold in that post
credit He's looking very young because they abducted him from
the eighties.
Speaker 1: But he's not looking like that. So either he's gonna
age up or they're gonna have to de age it,
which we'll see how that goes. But yeah, I'm clay.
Speaker 2: If Toby or Andrew appears in one of those post credits,
I'm getting that pizza from this.
Speaker 7: They put that in the.
Speaker 12: Post credit, though, I guess if they're like teasing it
like fors, I.
Speaker 11: Guess, yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: That's my hope.
Speaker 2: As they come through a portal, they're like, you know,
Peter one, we need your help, and then boom.
Speaker 1: But I think it's Downy.
Speaker 2: I think Downy's the easy like, especially with his connection
with Holland, like, and I would love it if you
do that, because I'm all bored this theory. We've talked
about it a couple of times. I can't remember where
I think it came from, like My Time to Shine
or something. The rumor is Downy's like doom is gonna
go to six one and pretend that he's like a
variant iron Man and be like a good guy to
recruit everybody, and then the flip's gonna happen. So imagine
Tom Hollen at the end of the movie he thinks
he's seeing Tony again. That's Hie right there, and you
get that one where they hug, and then you get
the evil face on Dann and.
Speaker 1: Be like I got them, Like.
Speaker 18: John, I was ligit about to say that, yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it could be totally an Andrew.
Speaker 4: But it's like they wouldn't actually show them though.
Speaker 12: I feel like they would hint at them without like
kind of like Captain Marvel. Right, we just got like
the Beeper, you know. I feel like they might do
something like that where instead of actually showing their faces
and you're not pay them money, right, I don't know
how that works, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's expensive.
Speaker 2: And even then if it were happen, I still I
guess I could get points, but I would be more
likely that it would be for doomsday because I just
feel like that sets up secret Wars and the multiverse stuff.
But I don't I don't think it's impause that's my
last shot of Spiremn. I think there's always a chance
a portal opens and they they show up, And even
then would it be both of them are just one
of them?
Speaker 1: Because I said both, And what's to.
Speaker 7: Say that they can't film that while they're filming Doomsday
and then like, hey, let's just throw this at.
Speaker 1: The end of Thunderbolts. Right, Thunderbolts, that's a which will
no splays ref. Four because not everyone's seen and whatnot.
But for Thunderbolts, that's a scene supposedly from Doomsday or
going to be when the f fours arrived and the
Thunderbolts are seeing them.
Speaker 2: So, and they've done that multiple times, right, like the
well the Russo shot it, that scene, the Thunderbolts scene. Yeah,
but even then, look at the like ant Man, that
post credit scene was just a scene from Civil War.
Speaker 1: Right, So maybe I got I got some chances.
Speaker 2: I got some No, probably not, though even then I
don't even think they're on set for Doomsday yet. It'll
be like Rebecca Romaine's mystique will be in sprand New Day.
I'll be like, well, this doesn't give me a pizza,
Like it's great to see her in all, but.
Speaker 7: If she is pretending to be I.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't take the pizza bait. If for some reason she
pretended me them then she turned with steak.
Speaker 2: And I don't feel good getting this pizza, Like that's
that's not really them. I they shut up on set,
but yeah, she made quite a hubbub today, and so
it's so funny, like, I don't know why people are
reacting to you.
Speaker 1: Because she she's at Comic.
Speaker 2: Con and they asked her about how Avengers Doomsday's going.
She's like, well, I don't know how much I have left.
Speaker 1: To shoot because the script isn't done. And then and
they're like, well, have you seen the full script? She's
a can they.
Speaker 9: Either confirm r But it's never a full script.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, even last week said this though, he said like, oh,
we never have a full script going in. So like,
I get why people are freaking out, but it's of
the norm. I do think for the big movie, they
probably should have. I'm hoping most of it's locked down,
but I don't know. We'll see, I said, though, I
guarantee you if this doesn't. If this blows up in
their faces, though, I bet they're gonna change that formula
and maybe stop doing the Lucy goosey Like if these
movies really disappoint people, then I think maybe we should
start with a script at the beginning of the production.
Speaker 4: Isn't Robert Downey like mister improv. Doesn't he like this? Yes, yeah,
you're right making a whole movie around him.
Speaker 12: I mean you might not get him unless he's like, hey,
if there's a script, I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2: I wonder what no one thought about that when he
just sent him off and I'm yeah, don't show me, I.
Speaker 4: Know, and he's like, okay, I'll get in my place here.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 11: But like, also we know that legitimately the actors, like
in in gaming in Vinity War literally did not have
a full script because they didn't want leaks to go out,
So like, what if that's legitimately what's happening here is
that they do have a full script, but they're not
sharing it with everybody.
Speaker 2: They don't trust Rebecca Romain on the Red Carpet or
comic no, and like she's not like like I think
she could die. We could see one scene of Rebecca
Remain's mystique in it might be old, but she did
say she might have more scenes, so maybe not. Maybe
I'm hoping not. I don't want. I don't want any of.
Speaker 1: These characters really get him. Del they hope they get
like a couple scenes and then kill them off.
Speaker 2: But I don't want like they show up and Doom
just dispatches the entire Fox X men.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, some people are gonna be like that makes them
look so powerful, but it's just like, I don't know.
Speaker 7: But the bad thing with the Stique in general, though,
is she's every character, so like we'll Recca Remain is
in like three scenes, true, but Mystique is in like
the whole movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, which is crazy. They said she said
she's doing seven hours of makeup. I'm like, I don't
know how that's happening because I thought the rumor was
she wasn't doing like the full naked body thing. I
thought the roomor was she had a suit. So it's
just like, how if it's that, why is just the
face and the neckting so long?
Speaker 1: And maybe she is.
Speaker 11: I wonder if they're doing like weird practical stuff with
the transformations and that's why.
Speaker 1: Every day they're putting different makeup like half makeup yeah
maybe yeah, no tech, Yeah yeah that's something. But yeah,
I was gonna ask us, now, you know, I talked
about this on Dynamic Duo a couple of weeks ago,
so I'm gonna go around room with those a good
five year So I'm gonna start you, Kirkling, we start
with Star Wars, where we're Star Wars be in five
years and we're gonna have Star Wars DC and Model
because we've all talked about all these things. So for
you know, five years from now when we do our
next anniversary cast, hopefully we do another crossold before that.
But well, how do you think it's gonna go.
Speaker 2: Because we've got Manlorin Grogu right now, we got star Fighter, right,
that's what it's called, I think, right, and then god,
we got the Mangle. But getting in we don't even
know if these movies are happening to do all these movies
that happen, Kirk five years.
Speaker 5: I think the Mando movie, for sure.
Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, I'm worried that'll be the only
project we'll be talking about for the next five years.
But I don't think it's gonna be much different than
where it is, honestly, which is kind of kind of sad.
I feel like they're gonna just have the one project
and then probably some random thing's gonna happen that just
slows down the production on the other projects pushes it out.
Maybe it just takes a little bit time, maybe there's
complications with the story and the script. But no, I
don't think there's gonna be like a major shift in
the in the force that is, uh just just Star
Wars right now.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I want them to do some crazy swings and just
really do some interesting to me stories. You know that
I loved and Or, so I would love to just
see more Cloak and day Agree type adventures in the
Star Wars universe.
Speaker 9: But I don't know they have.
Speaker 3: They haven't given me much to to really think that
we're gonna go super old. But I mean, there was
some some really good juicy stuff in and Or, But
I think I'm worried they're gonna see that as you know,
not really marketable just because it didn't do the best
money wise. But uh yeah, I don't know. I don't
have high hopes.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna ask the the gua guys this because
obviously we were divided. We got a pizza bet, but Kirkland,
do you still feel confident on our side? We bet
that the bet is will Manulear and Grogo make a
billion dollars? Me and Kirkland, are no Taylor and Dinner?
Speaker 1: Yes? Do you feel still good on that Kirkland on
the no side?
Speaker 9: No you don't, Oh you feel sorry?
Speaker 5: No, I don't think it's making a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay, I still feel good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, so yeah, sorry, you know it's only
podcast for ten years. I still figured it out.
Speaker 1: Taylor, Star Wars in five years, and you still feel
good about your pizza. Bet that's making a.
Speaker 9: Billion Star Wars in five years.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a really answer took too long.
Speaker 10: The top question to answer because when I mean when
Disney first about Star Wars, yeah, or of course of
five years, we've got a lot of movies and then
a lot of projects that came after the Factor on
Sney Plus. But now this is just not what I
was expecting. I I feel like you after the break
here that maybe things will pick up, and you know,
they got announcements, but.
Speaker 1: I just they always got announcements.
Speaker 10: They always have more announcements than I can't confer movie, remember.
Speaker 1: Taika, Yeah, I was doing Judge Dread, so.
Speaker 9: I can't confident. Remind me say that my years.
Speaker 10: Have We're gonna be having like a bunch of projects
because of just the history that they've been running with
this this franchise so far. So I can't really commit
to saying that in five years is going to be great.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 10: As for this movie making a billion dollars, that's absolutely
gonna happen because I just, like I said, there's a
lot of star there's some Star Wars. You know, people
are are high and dry right now, and I think
Star Wars in the big scream that's gonna be Let's
bring the kids. It's not like a six pm after
school or after work thing. We're watching a twenty minute
to thirty minute episode.
Speaker 9: No, we're getting the full two hour experience. Let's go.
It's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 10: I think it's gonna have a lot of excitement, and
I mean.
Speaker 1: The sun people are gonna be banging down the doors.
Speaker 9: So he confused me there for a second.
Speaker 1: Do you guys why know.
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 10: Okay, there's honestly, there's this weird thing in some of
these Star Wars groups then I'm involved with Whenever like
the character Ezra pops up, everyone's just like, oh, what's.
Speaker 9: Java doing here? It's like, Oh, it's j Do you guys,
are you guys familiar with this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a rebel thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's why why is that a Rebels thing?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 9: How did this come to?
Speaker 7: He just he said he was told or how to go.
He was asked his name in the Rebels episode. He
said he was a job with a hut. O't give
his actual name.
Speaker 13: Wait, Taylor, have you never seen Rebels? No?
Speaker 9: I have, But that's such a specific thing.
Speaker 2: It's like I remember when we at one point when
Endgame came out and they released the DVD or whatever,
the Blue rad and they had the deleted scene. It
was that deleted scene of Endgame when they like were
all they all took a knee and stuff like that.
And then one user said something about like Drags not
being there, and a bunch of people in the Facebook
didn't get it because Drags and the whole like moving
quickly thing. So he just loved our Facebook. He deleted
his comment, but they was just like he's right there,
Like what do you do? Because he was like, oh
shame all the guardians, but Drags showed up for this funeral,
and it was just like a bunch of comments like
he's right there, you idiot this and then he deleted
his comment, and I never saw him on our Facebook ever.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 7: No, no, I'm not gonna I didn't call him.
Speaker 2: A idiot, but I was one person that said, yeah,
he's right there in that scene because it completely went over.
I forgot about the whole, like I moved so still,
and I was like, oh, and then after when I figured,
I'm like, I'm dumb.
Speaker 1: I forgot that that's tracks.
Speaker 5: This whole shamed a fan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's happy they left.
Speaker 13: Damn.
Speaker 4: They're probably doing better now that they left that group.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so but part of the new rock stars now
who knew?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Dylan, yeah, you're still feeling good about But
we only got one billion dollar in this movie this year,
so like it's it's slowing down.
Speaker 4: Sorry say that sentence.
Speaker 1: We only got one billion dollar movie this year?
Speaker 13: What was it?
Speaker 1: Leland Stich Leland Stitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 12: Still to think about because I mean, I'm a good
example here. I haven't I haven't caught up on Mando.
But you know, I don't care. I'm not gonna watch
all that. I'm just gonna go see the movie. Maybe,
I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 8: Very believe that Dylan is a maybe. I totally believe
that absolutely.
Speaker 2: Like with Superman when that first is now changing, yeah,
I'll be there then when it can maybe.
Speaker 1: Nah, yeah, I'm good on Superman.
Speaker 11: You know, Dylan, It's really funny that you say that,
because like there was so many people that were worried
and I think still.
Speaker 13: Are worried that.
Speaker 11: Because there's even in TV shows, just like reactionary for
writers to do this inside shows is that like they
write scenes to catch up people who haven't watched certain
seasons or certain episodes and stuff. So there is an
actual worry that like the first half of the movie
is just going to be a giant summary of the
first three seasons.
Speaker 7: Possible. Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: First hour Mission Possible is just like let me catch
you over the last twenty years.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: It's really weird. It's like I gotta understand happen.
Speaker 2: Remember, the first hour is just tons of exposition about well,
we did this, and we did this, and there's this
character from this movie, and it's just it takes a
while for that thing to get going.
Speaker 1: I hope, man, Lauren's fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Sure if it's half like I hope it's not just
a bunch of Oh this is Grogu.
Speaker 1: I adopted him, and I'd be completely.
Speaker 2: Fine that even just like before the movie, like when
they have like someone, hey, thank you for coming to the movie, Like,
just do a recap on, just do an editor throw
together a two minute recap of like if you you
know everything you've missed to.
Speaker 4: Have a little a little crawl at the beginning.
Speaker 5: I say, you get Louise from the MCU to do that.
Speaker 11: So so here's here's the the awkward they should do
is that. But most of the movies that aren't episodic
movies don't have crawls.
Speaker 7: So you say most you mean I don't think any
of the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was supposedly a Kathleen Kennedy call that
she just wants just the sag whenvies have that, which
I I'm saying I disagreed on.
Speaker 13: Uh yeah, but soon will be.
Speaker 5: The news of her demise has been completely exaggerated. It
seems almost every day.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's going at some point, but yeah, I don't know,
Like before Disney got it, like I played video games
with the crawl, like books said, like their look like
I don't know why I get what they're trying to
do like only the episod of the crawl, but even
the theme too.
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, to me Superman proof, like
just spam.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying character shouldn't have specific themes, but just
spam the Star Wars theme when you get like Starfighter,
just use the Star Wars theme.
Speaker 1: Just do it whatever you know.
Speaker 12: But I think I feel like I made that argument
in like one of the Star Wars episodic reviews, like
I did we really need this crawl? I feel like
they should just do it when it actually like serves
the story, rather than like some random arbitrary rule that like, oh,
only the episodes can have a crawl and these other
ones don't specifically like oh yeah, where there's a three.
Speaker 4: Seasons of a three season, it's like the perfect.
Speaker 12: Time to implement that when it's already kind of thing
people expect when they go to a Star Wars.
Speaker 7: Movie that what you could do is do what they
did with Clone Wars and just have like the little
announcement of the very beginning. I just have that kind of.
Speaker 1: On Scoo Wars. I don't want that. I hate that thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I honestly they should do something though,
to let you know, unless this movie is really just
which I think could be just very loosey goosey, like
not like not much of.
Speaker 1: A story, like just an adventure type.
Speaker 4: I feeling, you know, they wouldn't put a crawl in
the trailer. But if that's something that they announced like
a few days before, like people think, oh, ship, there's
a crawl, and they.
Speaker 13: Get people would make it a big deal.
Speaker 2: If people made a big deal and Superman didn't even
have a crawl, but everyone like, oh, they're copping Star Wars.
Speaker 1: James Gunn says they're gonna have a crawl and it was.
Speaker 8: Just like Wars screen because Star Wars has a whole
license said up, sorry, can't we take a deal crawl?
Speaker 12: Yeah, we only do a crawl if you make a movie. Yeah,
I think I think, uh, to go back to your
original question. There trius billion dollar movie for sure, and
then Disney will get in gear. Okay, okay, this this
is where we're making money. Fuck these Disney plus things.
Let's let's get the green light going here and let's
get some more movies. So we'll probably get Starfighter in
like another year or two, and then I don't even
know what else is announced right now, but I think
we'll start to see I don't think we'll get another
episode like the next episode within the next five years,
but I think we'll probably be pretty close, like maybe
six or seven years out. But I think we'll probably
get like another after Mando, another movie, at least another
one or two TV shows. I will probably slow down
and then, Yeah, I don't know what's going on in
the other realms of books and comics and all that,
and I'm bummed about this is not.
Speaker 4: Really exactly what you asked for. But I saw that
just this week Star Wars Outlaws.
Speaker 12: I don't know if it was canceled or just not
green lip, but they're not making a sequel to that game,
which makes sense.
Speaker 8: Like like tid tepid release doesn't necessarily.
Speaker 12: But I'm super bud about because that game was really
great and I would have loved to see what they did.
A sequel is my favorite Star.
Speaker 4: Wars thing in the last few years, and that's well.
I hope it makes sense because it didn't sell.
Speaker 1: So I hope we get that Quantum Dreams game. I
really do. I I think that could make tons of fun. Yeah,
clips and in.
Speaker 12: The next five years, I will say it comes out
in the next five years, it is Cork.
Speaker 1: The next Fight year is dying.
Speaker 7: No, that's dead.
Speaker 2: That was when the Happy as Days of my like
random Stars life, when they announced that game, and the
fact that it's just you know, but like we said,
if the day it announced this is dead, me and
Dylan will start to do a retro for the old game.
Speaker 1: We said that if it died, because I have it.
Speaker 2: I literally twice have loaded up Kotar and almost started playing,
like no, I'm gonna wait because just in case.
Speaker 1: But I've been dying to get that, And it's just I.
Speaker 12: Just feel like with where we're out with games and
how many studios are closing and layofs, I feel like
Aspire is still the current developer of that, right.
Speaker 5: I feel like that, just.
Speaker 2: Like like what, yeah, we lost the Wonder Room game
this year, we lost Black Panther. Even though he still says, hey,
we're for sure making that iron Man game. Yeah, I'm
sure you're for sure making that iron Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love like you're putting.
Speaker 2: That in a statement where you canceled the other game,
like but don't worry, iron Man's safe.
Speaker 5: It's like, no, you know what is I'll tell you
what it is safe.
Speaker 8: That Blade game is safe, that that that game is
still coming out.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it is Juju on.
Speaker 1: A well Wolverine, I think it is safe.
Speaker 2: But with the Blade thing with Xbox like taking studios
out and stuff like, I actually don't know if that
Blade game's safe anymore. I could see his iss getting
announced it one day that oh it's not happening. So Chris,
your your prediction of the game come first could end
up being wrong.
Speaker 1: If it gets cancer.
Speaker 5: They good, you know it's here, be right, just because.
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll maybe they'll partner up and just be like, hey,
let's announce the game and the movie are canceled, like
on the same day. Let's just get let's get out,
like we're not doing Blade, We're not doing a show,
we're not doing a game Blade.
Speaker 4: And they even make some animation where Blade like slashes them.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, yeah, probably, yeah, no, I hope that happens.
But yeah, I forgot that you brought the episodes. I
forgot that they announced that whole Simon K. Kimberg trilogy.
But it was weird because half the trades reported it
was episode ten eleven, twelve, and then half the trade said, no,
it's not, and we just don't know. Kathy's never even
when they asked her, she's like, oh, yeah, he's working
on something and it's okay, Well that doesn't help me out,
like she and I know why she's not gonna say
anying because of in case they cancel it. We don't
want to know that episode ten was being made and
they're like, oh, this was, We're not going to do it,
but yeah, there could be and yeah, I don't know
if it's it's I think you're right now, it's probably
not in the next five years, but or like we
could get the production of like trailers are casting, but
I because what was that?
Speaker 1: That's twenty thirty.
Speaker 12: I feel like they'll get their shit sorted out in
the next five years for sure. All the director writer
Lotti dah of that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Chris, what about you? We're Star Wars the
next five years? And is Amanda movie making a billion.
Speaker 5: Somehow? Luke Skywalker returned.
Speaker 19: Oh, recast I will if if Mando doesn't do well,
you know, and this the felony throng, you know, big
movie those are their two chances to try to see
what they did create.
Speaker 8: New and you know, Ryan Gostin, those three things don't
work out, We're we're finding a way to bring back
the original people, you know, in some ways shape or form,
not like getting Mark Hamill to replay the role, but
recasting bringing them back. Because we've talked about this the
vodka stream the last night, saying, you know, we can't
seem to get like people say, give me something new,
I'm tired of the old stuff.
Speaker 5: Well then they don't even show up for the new stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, would you Chris and I, this will
take us on a different journey, But would you be
completely opposed of Lucasfilm announced that they're rebooting Stars and
just starting over, because I wouldn't. I have my original
trilogy and the like, it's all there, like, and sometimes
I think it might be safer for Lucasfilm to be like,
let's just let's just go a new It can also
super Backfire and people are just done with.
Speaker 5: Super Backfire Star Wars.
Speaker 8: But the thing is, like you say, remixed Star Wars,
like it goes back to the same thing. It's such
a vast galaxy, a different thing, because it's what are
you rebooting outside of, like you said, if they're just
going back and rehashing the original trilogy this scene, like.
Speaker 1: You said, bring back those characters. That's how they would
do it, right as let's.
Speaker 5: Characters and go on journeys with them.
Speaker 8: That's more of my that's more of my thing, you know,
instead of just redoing it at that point. But you know, honestly,
like I said, I think they're gonna have three strikes
and they're out with these movies if they're lucky to
get the three, but they definitely have two strikes.
Speaker 5: Ahead of them, you know before.
Speaker 8: I think if those don't go well, then they're trying
to dig back the lou Khan Lea, you know, recasting those.
Speaker 1: This is a scary time. Taylor's shaking your head. You
don't like that.
Speaker 9: I just I'm not saying I like it.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying that's what's probably gonna happen if it
doesn't work.
Speaker 9: The idea that they are.
Speaker 10: Resorting to, let's say ypathetically, resorting to a full reset
and going back and just trying to bring those characters back,
different actors, whatever you want to call it. I just
think it's silly you were dealing with. They just put
out that map the entire Star Wars like universe, showing
well everything, and still half that map was pretty much
just empty. How can you run out of stories to tell?
I mean, you're saving all your stories for what the shows?
The twenty minute segments.
Speaker 8: That it was so funny, like with with what you said,
like that last not this last Star Wars celebration, but
the one before that where they panned out like the
Race story, all those different things like the tales of
the Jet, the Jet, birth of the Jedi and everything
like that, like all that starting to be called into
question now because the Ray things now backlogged.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 8: It was like I was like excited. It's like, you
know what, you know, why are we even putting this
out there? Are we not learning our lessons not to
announce stuff when you can't even get one movie off
the ground?
Speaker 1: H Yeah? And Mando, is that making a billion? Chris no,
Joe Star Wars five years? Mando billions?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm Star Wars five years. I don't know. Plane
off of Chris' is like, I definitely I gotta agree
that if they they messed this up like I've I've
definitely been vocal that I hated season three of Mando.
I've been alone after they they after book a Boa
Fat was ruined and they basically look, all I'm saying
is that they should just call it Mando season two
point five. But like, like whatever, Like I hated Mando
season three, and since then I just Star Wars TV.
I've I've liked some things, but the rest of the
general public didn't like. I loved Acolyte, I love them
doing different things. But then when you, like Chris said,
when you have something new, people don't like it. So, yeah,
they're coming back to the original group because they're coming
back to the original sagas because that's the time period
people want, because they won't go to the the future.
Speaker 9: They won't go to the past.
Speaker 1: No, no, no again. I wanted I did not like act
like because oh it's not the Dark Times.
Speaker 2: I just did not enjoy the project. But that that's
the tough thing that I get throw. We get thrown
in the can of people that yeah, we don't want
that stuff.
Speaker 1: It's like I do.
Speaker 2: I just want it a little more polished. But yeah,
I don't want more dark Times.
Speaker 7: That's fair and I agreed that that first season was rough,
but I was looking forward where it ended. It had promise.
Now we've got nothing. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 1: Plagas, you know, there's still here about because he knows
he's never gonna see Plagas another never.
Speaker 10: Put him on screen, as as Diney. That Disney's like, oh,
we're canceling the show because they did like Plague.
Speaker 1: That's why the show exactly.
Speaker 8: That the creepy the creepy alien behind the rock is
what torpedo at that shoke green.
Speaker 1: Light that Darth mall animated show.
Speaker 5: You know again, more stuff that they they more the
old stuff.
Speaker 2: I like Darth Maul, but we don't need another animes
like how we've make that live action though and that.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so Star Wars Zone like it is a product
that I have also said. I've heard somebody I'll say
it that you can come in and you can go.
It's it's a product that people love. You can dip
out of it and you'd come back constantly. There's always
something for somebody. I know. My girlfriend just watched Skeleton Crew.
It wasn't for her. She tried it when it came out.
She did not like that first episode she waited, she
actually just watched the whole season.
Speaker 13: I'm going to message him.
Speaker 7: Was not for her. Yeah, you go ahead, and I'm
sure she would like shut up Clay so, but she
just she didn't like it. It's just and that's your choice,
and that's fine. But she also like she didn't grow
up watching Goony. She didn't grow up watching all that stuff,
you know, A so like Vegan neither I but I
still enjoyed the show for what it was. That's the
whole different matter.
Speaker 9: Whim though, wim just remember whim. Travis Kirkl, Yeah he
was grand.
Speaker 1: I'm not you guys' review trash takes.
Speaker 2: You know my opinion. You know, I haven't talked about
the geekers here. They're like dropping six seven out of ten.
That's Skeleton Crew to me is like what Star Wars
should be, going for the perfect blend of practical new
stuff using old stuff. Not like, hey, I'm related to
like Luke Skywalker. I'm a second cousin removed and I
met him once on Tallowe Like none of that stupid
saying like stupid happy Gilmore. There's fucking like fun dude,
I'm this guy's son I'm this guy's son, I'm this
guy's dye. Man, what really character is a son or
daughter of somebody. It's like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 7: Happy Gilmore two? I was it was an okay movie.
I if you you take out all of the flashbacks
and that two hour movie becomes like an hour fifteen minutes,
and then you take out all of the hey remember this,
that hour fifteen minutes becomes like an I don't know,
forty five minutes. It was a whatever movie.
Speaker 1: When I think about that, take Joe interesting, No, it.
Speaker 5: Was good, you said on me today.
Speaker 7: I just say it was good. I just said it was.
It was whatever.
Speaker 2: The first forty five nets to me, I was like,
oh they did it. They didn't make like a terrible
ten year sequel. I thought, was like fine. And then
that hour fifteen after man, it just felt like the
plane had lost to win and we were going down
real fast.
Speaker 7: Literally, it was just like, oh, hey, remember when they
did this in the first movie. Well you don't have
to because he's doing it again.
Speaker 1: They did every single literally to the last frame in
the movie.
Speaker 2: Is that exact last frame or It's just like, I
don't know why they're obsessed with like students are obsessed
with that one. I'm find of a couple jokes that
are like the first movie, but to do so many
and like I said, why they're obsessed with make every
new character of importance they're related to an old character.
Speaker 1: It's like why, like it just makes.
Speaker 7: It's Also it's also one of those things where it's
absolutely the movie I knew I was getting when I
was going while I was going into it. So that's
why I said it was fine. It's not great. It's
not like happy to get more billion mass in top tier.
It's fine. Anyway, back to Star Wars, Star Wars five
years whatever, I'm still gonna watch it regardless whatever.
Speaker 5: I don't like they got my money.
Speaker 7: Basically, will Mando will just make a billion dollars? God,
I hope not. It probably will, but I hope not.
I will.
Speaker 2: Take Clay or the tiebreaker here because there's on side,
so for Mando, and then what do you think about
Star Wars? You know, stars aligned, So it gets to
me talking about five years, So.
Speaker 13: I'll do the Mando first. So Mando making a billion dollars.
Speaker 11: I don't know how I feel about the idea of
Mendo making a billion dollars according to a Reddit thread,
as projections are already going to be anywhere near nine
hundred and eighty five million to one point zero three five.
Speaker 8: By the way, tickets just went live for Mando and
Groger right now.
Speaker 1: That's not like theest.
Speaker 11: So I kind of was like, Okay, well, how can
we look at this in some sort of perspective.
Speaker 13: In October of last year.
Speaker 11: Lucasfilm made twelve billion.
Speaker 13: Dollars overall for Disney.
Speaker 11: And that is overall merchandise lightsabers at Disney World Disneyland,
And so I was trying to look for numbers for
Grogut because I think that's gonna be your hot ticket
seller when it comes to Mandalorian.
Speaker 13: Of course, Pedro is everywhere.
Speaker 11: People are gonna love him, but there's so many jokes
about people being tired of him being in everything that
there might be some Pedro fatigue, which I don't think
is a real thing, because I genuinely think he's just
a great time on screen. So Grogu, the character, upon
release of the first season of Mandalorian, nearly made.
Speaker 13: Lucasfilm two point seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: A million yeah, in merchant that's it.
Speaker 13: Yeah, which I think is a little weird.
Speaker 9: Well, the merch came late for Grogu as well, right, it.
Speaker 11: Came late, and they even say that they could have
made a little bit more, but dropped the ball on
twenty nineteen Christmas season. They just because they were so
secretive about the name and all of these other things,
and so they wanted to keep that a mystery, which
I do think kind of shot themselves in the foot
when it came to merchandising.
Speaker 13: But like, I.
Speaker 11: Think that there is a possibility of a billion, but
I'm not gonna put my money on it.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say no that it's not gonna make a billion.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll see, all right.
Speaker 11: Now with the whole five years, I have a little
bit more hope in Star Wars in the next five years.
Speaker 13: Mainly do to and Or.
Speaker 11: And the reason why is I've talked to Katie about
this on our show. The fact that like with and
Or being so politically driven to kind of give its
own genre to Star Wars, that hopefully lucasfilm gets a
little bit more open to.
Speaker 13: Having more genres within Star Wars.
Speaker 11: And we've talked about how I would really love, like
a Clone Trooper, freaking found.
Speaker 7: Footage Harvest, give me Red Harvest.
Speaker 11: Well that's the thing, like we've we've heard the rumors
about Red Harvest coming out or at least being in production.
Speaker 13: Like if you give me a found.
Speaker 11: Footage freaking Stormtrooper or a Clone Trooper movie, that would
be absolutely amazing, not only because it drops it's two
different genres there it's found footage and then it's horror.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: So I think things like that open the minds that
Lucasfilm a little bit more to let them do more,
Let more filmmakers do.
Speaker 1: More, hope, hope.
Speaker 11: And then also due to and or your guy's conversation
about rebooting and all of this other stuff, Mark Hamill
has said he will not go back to do Luke
Skywalker stuff, Like he doesn't want to go back and
do Luke Skywalker stuff. So if they were to do
anything with any type of reboot, he would say no and.
Speaker 13: Hopefully that they would recast.
Speaker 11: But the thing that says, hey, Lucasfilm is still warming
up to the idea of recasting is the fact that
freaking Benjamin Bratt was bail Aana bail Oreana and I
understand that.
Speaker 9: It's more so like oh.
Speaker 11: Uh uh uh, what's uh Jimmy, Jimmy was doing doing
something else, and so like schedules just conflicted.
Speaker 13: But like.
Speaker 11: It's it hasn't stopped Lucas from from using you know,
deep fakes and stuff like that, So why not just
do that, you know, why not make Gilroy and and
in the end or team do something like that. But
instead they're like, Okay, just recast and it be fine.
So I'm hoping this also opens the door that if
they were ultimately you know, gun against their head, hey
we have to do a reboot or something of the
sort that they would not be you know, legated to
use Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher or Harrison Ford likeness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't God. So that's I just hate.
Speaker 2: It's like, I hate that there's any conversation about reboot
or recasting with those original three and it's just like
just carry on with Ray and move.
Speaker 11: Forward, you know, or you know, I understand there's a
lot of people that have you know, controversial takes on
Alclite and everything else, but Taylor, Travis, you guys have
read some books in the High Republic. There's a lot
more there that they definitely take and do something else with,
Like genuinely, I we just finished, Uh.
Speaker 13: Where is my phone?
Speaker 1: I hear my alarm?
Speaker 13: Where my phone is? I apologize for that.
Speaker 7: So you were in the heat of the moment.
Speaker 1: I just don't know where it is. Crank Colin right
there is.
Speaker 11: So the thing is like, with what Trials of the Jedi,
no spoils because I know Travis, you're still wanting to
read it.
Speaker 13: I know Travis is going behind too.
Speaker 11: But Chapter forty of Trials of the Jedi literally fundamentally
changed the way I think of the rest of the
timeline because there is something so cool that happens that
it kind of opens the door to tell some other
stories that legitimately tie to the Star Wars that we
all know and love. So it's like there's so much
there that can be brand new to so many other
viewers if they decided to do a TV show or
a movie and whatnot and still hark back to the
things that.
Speaker 13: They all know. I would love with the original trilogy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll have to see I would.
Speaker 2: I hope some of that stuff can seep through, but uh,
we all do is now because Chris, I know you've
got a bounce, do some family stuff.
Speaker 1: So what we'll do is everyone can will go to
Chris first, and.
Speaker 2: We'll put the Marvel and DC five your thoughts just
together because we're already running along.
Speaker 1: Here and well whatnot.
Speaker 2: So Chris, yeah, give us your elevator pitch of what
do you think we'll have it into DC Marvel.
Speaker 1: Next five years.
Speaker 2: Then we'll go all around do that, and then we'll
get out of here because I know it's also late
for you guys in the Eastern time too, So.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Marvel, you know, we know we're getting mutant saga. Finally,
I think we're they are starting to do that course
correction of you know, putting up more quality than quantity.
Speaker 5: I do like the idea of, you know, one show.
Speaker 8: I'm kind of surprised at saying we only have one
show one show year.
Speaker 5: I said, I'll believe it when I see it. I could, Oh,
you don't.
Speaker 2: Believe in that, eh, But I believe on live action.
Though I originally think one live action show, I think
just because of money wise, I don't think they're looking
too much at Disney Plus.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I could see them just doing two Disney
Plus shows like you said one live action one.
Speaker 5: If they're going to dabble in animation, they'll do that.
Speaker 8: But you know, I I would rather I understand where
Figi's coming from, where he says like it's a creative process.
We you know, we can keep on doing scripts and
the fly, But I just I don't think that's a
sustainable model. I think he can do it, but it's
not creativity create in creating words.
Speaker 2: Hey, they've been doing it since two thousand and eighth
though right, iron Man didn't have a finished script when
they started that.
Speaker 8: So yeah, it'll you know, as they're trying to shore
shore up the stuff. You know, MCU will continue to thrive.
It will, it'll lean into the Mutants. I think they
will correct the ideas of not having an Avengers level
movie within the phase. I think that was that's been
the biggest mistake of this these three phases right now,
is not having that. But they'll continue to write DC.
There's not a lot to go on necessarily, but I
think where they will, I could see them within five years.
Speaker 5: We're gonna get a Justice League movie within five years.
Speaker 1: So you think DC is still at least going strong.
They can do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think they will. They the aim,
the aim.
Speaker 8: You know the writings in the wall, that they're gonna
have to do some sort of team up movie at
that point to kind of pay off. Because I've said before, like, Okay,
James is gonna cold say okay, not everything has to
be connected, and they kind of refer to each other
in exist in the same universe. But I think at
some point the audience is gonna want some kind of
you know, team up of some sort because that's where
they that's where the money is, you.
Speaker 2: Know exactly, Yeah, and that and then that makes people
like other characters they maybe didn't see those movies, right, like, oh,
if I skipped the Lanterns show the super Girl movie,
then you bring them there because they guarantee that's what
happened with Avengers, right, Thor and Captain do as well
as Iron Man.
Speaker 1: But then after they're more successful because people are like, Okay,
I might like X, Y and Z, so okay.
Speaker 8: But but yeah, as always, as I said last time,
Marvel Alliance, thank you as always for uh having me
joined this network.
Speaker 5: And I mean this no qualms about it.
Speaker 8: It has truly changed my life for the better, not
just for the friends that I've made with everyone here,
but the opportunities it's provided, and I just want to
thank you for taking a chance on a beginning podcaster
to come to this moment. So oh yeah, congratulations to
you guys for ten years, and Joe and Clay and
Katie and all the ones that have been part of
this journey with gu way, it's it's been a pleasure
and many years ahead.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for letting be the third best Marvel Alliance
host at one point, you know, so.
Speaker 5: No holding on to dear life these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. All right, sir, I'll talk to you later later, Chris,
all right, Kirkland, five years Marvel DC, what's happening twenty
thirty Marvel Dead?
Speaker 3: He my gosh, I'd love to be like just wild
and say there's gonna be like some Marvel DC crossover
within the next five years, but I think we're I'm
not gonna say it's never gonna happen twenty years. It's
gon think five years is way too u soon for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless I think there's gonna be all the movies
like Crater, like they're all doing poor and that's their
last attempt to make all, we gotta save our job.
That's what I think will happen eventually, when Marvel DC
movies are making very.
Speaker 1: Little money, if Figgy and Gunn are still there, they'll
be like, Okay, let's let's figure this.
Speaker 3: He's still gonna be there in twenty years.
Speaker 1: There's chance. I don't think he wants to be in
the twenty years, but what else is he gonna be?
But he wants like the job.
Speaker 3: On the beach dollars living out his days.
Speaker 2: The rumor is he wants the job under Igor. He
doesn't want the AIGR job. He wants the job under Ager.
That's the room that goes around.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, ill, that was weird. Just an
alert went off.
Speaker 5: You can like the Clay.
Speaker 3: Thing going off.
Speaker 1: Uh, Kirt just arrested live.
Speaker 7: Think uh.
Speaker 3: For DC side, I think that they're gonna have one
like one stinker release, like one of their.
Speaker 4: Movies just like yeah, just totally.
Speaker 3: People are are hating on them and saying, oh, I
think one.
Speaker 9: Like super Clear, like oh, it should.
Speaker 3: Have been good, but it was just such a stinker,
like man Quantumnian level where there's just not a lot
of people are are raving about it.
Speaker 9: I don't have a lot of reasons why.
Speaker 4: That's why that is.
Speaker 3: I just feel like it's gonna be top to come
up the gate, just like, yeah, everything just being bangers.
You know, Superman came up pretty successful. But yeah, I
think they'll be at least one of those. And then
on the m c U side of things, I think,
I mean it's not really uh it's pretty safe, bet,
but I feel like we're gonna be getting you know,
some O G characters back that we're once dead. Uh,
definitely not Scargo, but of the likes of you know,
some some some familiar faces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Marvel bring people back. No, can't be Taylor
five years, marl DC.
Speaker 10: AH DC is just gonna always be kicking. They're always
like if something doesn't pan out here, they'll reboot there.
They're not fraid anymore. They're just they're they're at the
fuck it phase. I'd say there's.
Speaker 5: Marvell.
Speaker 10: It's just with how poorly they handled things with their
all their their recent projects, spreading themselves a little bit
too thin over the all these narratives.
Speaker 9: It's a shame that they kind of what is the
word I'm trying to think of, greed. No, diluted themselves
a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 10: It's unfortunate because again Fantastic four Thunderbolts, It's set up
that a lot more excitement for me, and then Fantastic
Force set up even more e citement for me, because
again we're just dipping our toes back into that original
kind of Marvel aesthetic that I personally really really like
in those older films that they did, and a heavy
component of that is two separate stories, separate characters, everything
very very separate, but at its core, there is this
narrative that's moving forward where it connects them and it
could be the smallest little thing, but things are just
moving forwards and you know, it's building towards something, and
that build up is what I've really been lacking when
it comes to Marvel lately. So to get that again
is really exciting. Know what they do with it, I
don't know. They're definitely picking up a little bit of
steam here, so we'll have to see how.
Speaker 9: That plays out. But in the next five.
Speaker 10: Years, I don't think it's ever gonna just be done
over with. I think that no matter what they're going
to still they're not gonna call it quits. Anytime soon.
Speaker 9: I mean, how many projects are they in now.
Speaker 10: And they've got so many characters, Yeah, fifty seven projects.
They're not gonna just end it and be like, yeah,
we're done next day. That's something that requires a wind
down process for sure.
Speaker 1: So anything in five years that wind down hasn't happened.
Speaker 9: Then yeah, it'll be interesting to see. But yeah, that's
that's my take.
Speaker 1: Dylan Nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll start with d C. I think, you know,
Superman's been.
Speaker 12: Doing well so far as that's obviously great for them,
there was there's a lot of weight on those on
those shoulders there. I think that, you know, DC is
always always risky, who know where their money is coming from.
It seems like sometimes it's just looking rough over there.
But I do think that the James Gun era will
get at least another five years at this point. That's
based a lot off just Superman at this point. But yeah,
hopefully they can continue that success and just like nail
things down. And yeah, I don't I'm gonna say no
Justice League in the next five years. Like maybe there's
some other more minor team ups and I just don't
know the names of these DC teams, So maybe we
see some more of that. It sounds like even in
like right now, there's a bunch of people in Superman
there and Peacemakers, so it sounds like there's just a
lot of crossover stuff already that's occurring. So yeah, I
think that will have a nice few years hopefully holy
fall like hopeful, hopefully.
Speaker 4: We get fucking Batman two in the next five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we can't.
Speaker 4: Ma don't hit me with the Matt Reeves gift. I
hope he doesn't say no.
Speaker 14: Like I I hope this movie.
Speaker 1: I'm that still working on the script. You know, he's
a slow writer, but he's still He's still.
Speaker 4: That would be insane if we don't get that.
Speaker 12: So yeah, I think I think DC will get a
few years here, and we'll kind of reevaluate how long,
you know, if they get to the Marvel level, or
if they just kind of had a nice little run
with James Gunn here where he gets like ten twelve
projects in and then it dies because of a lack
of money.
Speaker 1: Again, But we'll see again.
Speaker 2: Though, as we talked about a couple of weeks ago,
when I was at any Episodes, when I went back
and listened to when we're talking about Blade, and it
had been two years and we were all like, oh man,
like they can't wait longer, And here we are six
years later, still wait on. But I don't think that's
gonna be the case of Batman. I do believe there's
a script, they're gonna go for it, but it's like,
you never know what gonna happen. Right, I would have
thought by now in the ten year anniversary, geek first
we'd be talking about, Oh I love Marshall he has played,
but so just waiting, hoping.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so what's the next two or three movies
for DC right now?
Speaker 7: Super Supergirls next year, next June, ju Ju Yeah, September, October.
Speaker 2: Of September, so that leads into October year this year,
next year, next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, done for movies this year?
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah yeah, Lanterns is next year in June. I
believe was shot. Yeah show sorry, Peacemaker Officers this year.
Speaker 1: Show but no other movie dated Supergirl and clay Face.
Speaker 4: So interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's what the whole gun approach, right, that they're
not gonna green light anything till.
Speaker 7: It's till he had script in hand.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's the opposite.
Speaker 12: Even though they put out that like big slate, but
it sounds like, yeah, that slate is now there's authority.
Speaker 7: It's like chilling.
Speaker 1: Gone, yeah, brave and bold. You never know.
Speaker 7: Apparent in the air.
Speaker 11: Uh that article that came out with a quote of
James Gunn saying, oh.
Speaker 13: Yeah, we had to scrap it. Apparently that was authority.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 4: Scrappable, I think. Yeah.
Speaker 12: And then over in the Marvel world, I really, I
you know, I don't know what's going on with this
whole reboot talk. I haven't dug into that, but I
hope that's not true.
Speaker 1: I hope we don't get a reset. That's what said
a resett. He said reboots a scary word. He didn't
want to use that word, but he said it's a Just.
Speaker 12: Because it's a scary word doesn't mean it's not what
they're doing. But yeah, I hope we don't have anything
weird like that going on. It's it would seem too
soon for me for that kind of stuff, And there's
still so much potential room for their things to happen.
Speaker 4: So I think Marvel's fine.
Speaker 12: I mean, because even if they're similar, movies tank for
a bit like Disney still has infinite money, right, so
it's not like sometimes.
Speaker 9: Their own printing presses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like.
Speaker 12: For a bit there as worries like with WB and
like DC, and it just like there's even money to
make movies at all. Right, But then one w B
has had like a good like year or two, right, well,
a lot of hits recently, so they're doing well again.
But yeah, Marvel, like because they're under the DC or
fucking Disney umbrella, they kind of have infinite cash flow
for the next few years.
Speaker 4: So I think we'll have a good few times.
Speaker 12: I think, yeah, they'll definitely really keep going with these
team up things, keep those constant instead of having like
the long drought like they've had this time. I feel
like the TV shows are probably gonna slow down big time.
But yeah, just movies really get into that X I
think we'll get X Men in the next five years.
I'll put that out there and then really can do
some big crossovers there, and that's a lot of potential
of casting fresh new people instead of and that's what
the purpose of you know, having X Men and do
day and stuff is, just get some of those oldies
in there for one last ride.
Speaker 4: Kind of thing. So yeah, I think I think Marvel's fine.
Speaker 12: Yeah, they have a couple of sinkers, but you know,
people forget that, Like Deadpool was like in the last year,
and that was a billion dollar movie, right, so they're
still doing it fine.
Speaker 2: Cut to us when we're reviewing Secret Wars and it's
like the worst Marvel movie we've ever seen, and.
Speaker 4: You know, then then live bars these days, that'd be achieved.
Speaker 2: But I don't think now. I don't think we can
ever get to like Secret Invasion level. If if we do,
that's that's something else. But yeah, Joe, what about you,
DC Marvel?
Speaker 1: Five years?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Marvel, I think so in five years, I definitely
think we'll be smack dab in the middle of I
guess the Reset era, the mar the X Men era.
So I think everything will be going strong. Marvel will
be doing great. And I think, man, I didn't realize
it was fifty seven projects right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's with everything, right with like even.
Speaker 7: Yeah, with shows and yeah, yeah exactly, but like because
that's just I mean, I knew before it was a lot,
and damn, I just that's just a lot anyway. But no,
like that, that's still though that's still that's doing great. Obviously, Yeah,
they have a even with that much, even with that
many projects, and by that time in five years, you're
gonna have even if they're only doing one movie and
two shows at a time, that's still what sixty some projects,
give or take. In that time, you can still have
like a handful of bad and you might be like, oh, yeah,
that's bad, that's bad, that's bad. You can remember all
of the great things versus the bad. DC wise, though, like, yeah,
Superman's great. It started out great. I'm enjoying it. Uh
going forward though, Like obviously we've put a lot and
as viewers, we've put a lot of weight on the
shoulders of Superman. I think it's it's holding it right now.
But now we've got to move to the next thing,
which obviously Peacemaker season one was great. I mean, I
don't think the show is gonna be the season two
is going to be like moving anything along in respects
to the DCU in general. So the next thing being
super Girl for the universe, Now, that's that's gonna have
to carry a lot of things. And if that one bombs,
which I don't think it will because of the response
I'm seeing online with how Millie Alcock was at the
end of the movie and everybody's liking it. She was
all in the movie for all of what thirty seconds,
and everybody's just like, holy crap, this is my Supergirl.
It's like, really okay, I mean, yeah, she's great.
Speaker 1: Men, I was Supergirl sorr he it was.
Speaker 7: It was a great scene though, I liked it, but
like that she was there for fifteen seconds, Like if
you're excited for this, like that means you're gonna love
her movie, I hope. But then after that, like that's
we've only got three movies right now. Obviously we've got
Superman just came out, and we've got Super grown clay
Face that are confirmed. We've got nothing else really that
is I mean Batman two allegedly, but like, yeah, that's
that's adjacent. That's not DCU. Everything else is like we
might have something swamp thing, might be a thing.
Speaker 6: Maybe.
Speaker 7: So it's while I was being DC Alliance. While I
want to be like, yeah, I'm hopeful that everything's gonna
be great, I'm kind of wishy washed she because I
don't know. I don't I want to say, yes, everything's
gonna be wonderful, but I I can't confidently say that I
think is gonna go smoothly because.
Speaker 1: I think it's sold at any moment too, right, that's.
Speaker 7: Always yeah, that's the other thing. Well, well, don't get
me wrong, James Gunn. I'm loving the the path he's going,
I'm loving what he's doing with it, and in James
gun I trust. I guess I don't know, but like
i'm what he's doing, what the plan he has going forward,
I'm I'm backing. But as of right now, we've only
got one project. Yeah, so he once we see more projects,
and once the world starts becoming bigger, then I can
competently say yes, five years from now, DCU is is here.
It's here to stay. I'm also with the rest of you.
I don't think we're gonna have a Justice League movie
in five years. Sorry Chris, but it's gonna happen. Stupid
take No, I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Let's so yeah, there you go. Yeah, Clay, what about you,
Marl DC next five years?
Speaker 13: I'll go with DC first, next five years.
Speaker 11: I also am gonna go ahead and say no Justice
League for the next.
Speaker 13: Five years plus. There's I'm gonna go and agree with
what Dylan had said.
Speaker 11: There's gonna be a lot of other minor crossovers within
the universe. We have already heard so many different conversations
in the sense of Team Titans being in production.
Speaker 13: I think for the fact that that involves so.
Speaker 11: Many different corners of the DC universe, we're probably gonna
see a lot of cameos uh in that movie. I'm
willing to bet we will not see the first look
of Batman in Teen Titans, but.
Speaker 13: At least the first tease for sure.
Speaker 11: But as far as I also see in the comments,
somebody said if if the Supergirl does make money, it
will probably because of Lobo, because of the Supergirl movie
not doing well in the eighties and then Supergirl not
doing well on CBS. It did wonderfully depending on how
you kind of look at it on CW, even though
CW lost like majority of its money on every single
show that it made.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think Logo is a draw on.
Speaker 13: My Lobo is not the draw it would be Jason
Momoa is.
Speaker 7: But you also want to say the eighties movie came
after three terrible Superman well, one terrible Superman movie, So.
Speaker 1: The Reeve movies were going downhill.
Speaker 7: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Three Superman three wasn't a
great movie. You're trying to do something else with that.
Speaker 13: It's like, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Say, Momoa, sure, but even the low right Aukman two, Like,
sure it made fun or a million, but it wasn't
the huge success the first one was, right.
Speaker 11: So yeah, and you know kind of what I was
saying with Star Wars, James Gun does seem to have
the idea of actually making different genres within the DCU,
not necessarily making everything look exactly.
Speaker 13: Like Superman, for instance.
Speaker 11: So we will see a lot of diversity not only
within the cast of each movie, but within the creative
teams as well. So we will see a lot of
different types of movies within this DC universe, which I
think is going to be a really nice draw.
Speaker 13: So really hoping for Mangold.
Speaker 11: To get on top of swamp thing, even though I
know that he has become a very very busy person,
and you know, we don't know which movie he's working
on currently, but yeah, I really do hope within the
next five years we will be getting teen Titans. I
know that there has also been kind of up in
the air that James Gunn has said that Mister Gold
is still in the works, but nothing has really been
firm on that. I think that fits very well within
the scope of how James Gunn creates, you know, television
and TV. We've also heard that there's gonna be a
series of shorts with Crypto that are gonna be coming
up on HBO Max, which I think are gonna be
fun as well, just kind of keeping the universe, you know,
alive between all of the waiting for TV shows.
Speaker 13: And movies MCU.
Speaker 11: I am super excited for the Mutant saga X Men
is literally my favorite part of Marvel Comics.
Speaker 13: So getting to see how all of that really.
Speaker 11: Is just gonna be berthed into the MCU, I think
it's gonna be really really fun.
Speaker 13: But as far as like the.
Speaker 11: Reset reboot conversations, I think that, you know, I think
it was Figy himself that's like, oh yeah, you know,
we're finally gonna see old new faces talking about other
characters that may have died and everything else. Because we've
they've recasted characters within the MCU before, so it's like
it only makes sense that we will see these characters
again in some other capacity. So I am hoping that
we get like for me personally in the next five years.
Not only do I want a firm X Men movie,
which I know we will get, but I would like
to see.
Speaker 13: You know, the h has everybody seen Ironheart?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 13: Is it okay? If I spoil that a little bit?
In okay?
Speaker 11: They they were teasing Strange Academy, which was a really
fun comic book series when it first came out, and
that it's a very it's it's a very silly concept
because you get in the comic there was like dormm
whose child, nieces and nephews of Thorn Loki h and
you had so many different magical MCU characters as the
teachers and professors, which I thought, it's like literally like
just think of Hogwarts but in the MCU. And so
it's a it's a really fun idea, and I think
it could be absolutely amazing even if they were to say, hey,
we teased it in live action, but do exactly what
they did with Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man, make it into
a completely different universe and do it animated so that
way you can do a lot more with it. I
would even be okay with that, And speaking of animation,
within five years, I need an animated series of an
MCU character that's not Spider Man.
Speaker 13: That's what I would personally watch, you know. No, I'd like.
Speaker 11: For the fact that, like in the nineties, we had
so much We had Iron Man, we had uh a
Hulk for a little bit, we had so many really
fun ideas, like the fact that we had so many
cameos within the nineties Spider Man show like you, why
can't you pick one of these characters that we have
fallen in love within the MCU and create their own,
you know, animated series.
Speaker 13: Yeah, that would be my thing.
Speaker 2: I know we're getting Easaba Kanda, but for me, that
almost doesn't count because the fact that it's just gonna
be this quick like anthology.
Speaker 1: Like if you can do a full series with Chichala
and it's not MCU, it's just hey, the separate thing,
that'd be great because I don't know what they're doing
with ch'challa.
Speaker 2: And I guess that transition being to my thoughts where yeah,
I think you'll you'll get your recast. I think with
both DC and Marvel you have interesting points where like DC, yeah,
legitimately if Warner Brothers sells, that changes everything like that
that my answer to both five years is different because
if they sell, maybe Apple buys them and they just go, yeah, sure, James,
gunna keep doing your thing, or just now we want
our people in here. Thanks for sending us up, like
you never know, right, Like look at the DCU that
went through like three.
Speaker 1: Different leaders at the top.
Speaker 2: And just because zas Loss putting out his press statements
now doesn't mean anything in a few years if he
can make a deal, right, and so that's tough.
Speaker 1: I think they will have success.
Speaker 2: I think the good thing with them with the scripts
and then keeping the budget lower, I think that's what
we'll have success.
Speaker 1: And then I do think the Batman two will come out.
Speaker 2: I've always said I don't think the Batman three's gonna
happen unless Reeves kind of bends the knee, which sounds bad.
Speaker 1: But like I I just always feel like Jim's Gun's
trying to like maybe he's not, but every time I
just feel like he's trying to butter up my guy
Matt here. And you know, because I know.
Speaker 2: Everyone's always like, well, he already said he's gonna have
a son and that doesn't fit. All James Gunn has
to do is put out a fucking tweet is that
you know, we changed your mind and we're not gonna
do rain Bowl. We're gonna do this right now. Like
it's like they like they're not He's already changed stuff.
They're not beholden to us if they think they can
make more money elsewhere, right. So, but I think DC
if as long as with guns rains, I actually think
it will do relatively well.
Speaker 1: I think it will be.
Speaker 2: My comparisons for both these is I think in the
next five years they'll have the success that MSU Phase
one had, where they'll have a couple hits, a couple
of modest ones, and then like a billion dollar movie,
like some big hit. And then I think with MSU
they're gonna get back to being more like Phase two,
where they had multiple billion dollar movies, but then you
still all smaller movies like ant Man, and I think
the the gauge has changed because even then like F
four might be the biggest movie of the year for them,
but that's still probably only gonna finish like five six
hundred million, right, which is not what Marvel used to
be their biggest movies used to be, like their lowest
movies used to be that, right, Like their lowest movies
used to be six seven hundred.
Speaker 1: Now that's their biggest.
Speaker 2: So I think, obviously you gotta look at the payscale
a bit differently, but I think they will succeed unless,
as I've always said, feel listen to a broken clock.
If Dooms in Secret Wars disappoints, I don't think that's
it for Marvel. I think, like Tayo said, will always exists.
But then I could see a world where it's like
we're only going X Men, Spider Man and another big property,
Like I could see if if they screw up on
those two Avengers movies, I think a lot of people
clock out and they're kind of officially done with Marvel
for a while, because that's people depend on those movies
to be the fun big events and the second it's
not a fun event to go to.
Speaker 1: When those are like, oh man, like.
Speaker 2: Even the big ones are disappointing, then I feel like
a lot of the not us, but the general audience
will say, Okay, I'm kind of done with these, and
that happens.
Speaker 1: With franchises, right, or they'll take a longer break, But
I think you're gonna rock with X Men, and we'll see.
Speaker 2: Everyone talks about X Men, but like they've X Men's
also never had other than Deadpool a billion dollar movie, right,
but neither did Spider Man before the MCU.
Speaker 1: So I think X Men at.
Speaker 2: Least will get them some juice, and I hope that
they tackle that with some actual braveness, and they don't.
Kind of, I just worry with the way the like
the world is, and I just don't want a very plain,
safe X Men movie. I don't want to just be like, yeah,
we're weird mutes and that goes into we're gonna fight
sentinels for two hours. Like I'd like them to hit
on what actually makes the X Men special. But sometimes
when igs like we want to stop telling stories that
are so specific to certain people, it's like, oh no, Like,
is there gonna be.
Speaker 1: Some situation where Foggy wants to.
Speaker 2: Do this type of X Men And they look at
the script and like, you know what, Like Kevin, You've
had a good run, but this was too woke for us,
you know, so let's uh.
Speaker 1: I still think Foggy will be there. That's my other
five years.
Speaker 2: I think he will still be there because we're gonna
get Avengers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think DCU is gonna get to like Phase one,
Marvel and mcte's gonna be like at phase two.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be Phase three where they're just.
Speaker 2: Slinging billion dollar movies every year, and they're not gonna
be Phase four where it's kind of like a mixed reception.
I think they're and I think it helps that they
should go back to. I know Foggy said the maximums
three movies a year, but even two is five. You know,
like last year they put up Deadpoolreen made billion dollars.
That's good, Like don't don't oversaturate the mark, which I
think they already know so and we'll see. We don't
know all these like this Star Wars, like the audience's changed,
like tastes have changed so much over these years. You
never know what's gonna work and what's not gonna work, right,
Like maybe it's just a bunch of minecrafts and Lelan stitches,
you know, so I really don't know. I I think
I can safely say at least the Avengers movies will
make a billion and we'll go from there, so and
I think I can safely say that Clay will get
me a pizza in December for I'll wait till even January.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that.
Speaker 2: Actually, I don't need to look because we went back
to it. I looked up all Avatar has to do
his four hundred and ninety three dollars million or four
hundred ninety three million.
Speaker 1: God damn, I'll just get the pizza now, dude, Sonic tanked.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, well we'll come back to that. But yeah, no,
this was fun, so yeah, I'll so we can get
everyone on. And it was a late one, but yeah,
we'll try to next year, try to do this a
bit more often, because we used to do this more.
But like I said, we're all just a bit were busier.
Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks to Chris and Cave for coming in
for a bit, Joe and Clay. Thanks. We're taking some
time because alvious again, we know you guys are Easter
and so.
Speaker 2: It's it's later over there so far, yeah, exactly, so
we'll end it here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, thanks everyone that listened to this.
Speaker 2: I think everyone that has wore Geek Firsts and geek
Holt Gliance has been a five fun five and ten years.
Speaker 1: And we'll see us hopefully.
Speaker 2: Usually why we do these streams is hopefully it's when
Comic Con weekens happened, so next hopefully next year there's
some bigger stuff. We didn't talk about everything, but hopefully
next year there's some comic CON's actually back, or maybe
that's like E three where it's just dead and comic
CON's Can it be nothing in the next couple of
years other than just like Comicos, which is still cool.
Speaker 13: DC fandom I would.
Speaker 2: Love Yeah that I actually think that was our last
That might that might have been our last stream. I'm
thinking actually when we all did together was when we
sat around the whole day now because I was trying
to think what it was in DC fandom. The second one,
I think that was it where we just chilled out
and yeah there.
Speaker 11: Was there was the no Way home, uh spoilers review.
Speaker 7: No, no, no reaction great?
Speaker 1: Was that after fandom too?
Speaker 2: I think it was after Okay, so that was probably
last time yet where they announced it was just like
on a Monday, like, hey, trick comes up tomorrow, we
all go out together.
Speaker 1: Seeah. I hope we'll try to do a bit more often.
Speaker 2: But yes, uh yeah everyone, thanks for listening. Next we'll
be warn Thank you guys for joining
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