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Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to part six of

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my reading of Crying Wolf Hate Crime Hoaxes in America

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by Laird will Cox. Just a quick reminder, Thomas and

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I have been watching and reviewing movies freemanby on Thewall

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dot com forward slash Movies. Last movie we did was

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the nineteen seventy nine classic The Warriors. Did the original

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Mad Max before that, and got one schedule coming up,

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so watch out for that. All right. We left off

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at chapter seven. Other Minorities, Let's get into it. Although

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Blacks and Jews are the subject of most of the hoaxes,

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members of other ethnic groups have also taken part. A Seattle,

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Washington case involving an Asian man demonstrates how complicated hoaxes

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can become. In November nineteen ninety, the Seattle Chinese POSTNI

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Weekly carried the headline uw Rally against Racism in support

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of Park, referring to Daris Park, a twenty three year

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old Korean Chinese student who had claimed he was attacked

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by six white men wielding baseball bats and tire irons.

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Park was quoted as saying hate crimes that is usually

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racially motivated crimes have been on the rise and traditionally

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Asians have been told to Grinn and Barrett, this rally

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is telling them something different. They don't have to be victims.

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Park claimed that three whites had held off his two

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Caucasian friends while a small crowd gathered to cheer the

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attackers on, some of them yelling brain the gook. He

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also said that without his knowledge of martial arts, his

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attackers would have succeeded. Clearly, Daris Park had become a

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local hero in fight against bigotry and prejudice. On November fourteenth,

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Park spoke at a united and at an anti hatred

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rally sponsored by a University of Washington civil rights group,

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channing hey Ho races has Gotta Go and waving banners,

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some one hundred and fifty University of Washington students marched

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on the university president's office demanding justice. Accounts of the

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alleged attack appeared nationwide as well as in the International

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Herald Examiner, but there were problems with Park's story. Although

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Park claimed that he had reported the attack to police

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after visit to a local hospital, police had no record

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of a report being filed. In fact, they had contacted

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Park after a story about the attack appeared in the

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community newspaper. Kevin Kane, a friend of Park who claimed

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to have witnessed the attack and who backed up Park's

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assertion that he had reported the attack to police, revised

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his account under police questioning. I told them I was

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not at the station when the police when the report

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was filed, he said. But this was not a routine

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hate crime hoax. On thirteenth December nineteen ninety Darris Park

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and a confederate were charged with three armed bank robberies

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in Seattle and battle Ground. Also charged in the bank

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robberies were with Park was Joseph Fritz White, who had

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also witnessed the attack on Park and initially supported the

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account to newspapers and police. On December eighteenth, Seattle police

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reported that Park's account of the alleged hate crime was

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a gross exaggeration the event, it turned out, involved an

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altercation outside a nightclub in which Park and a single

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opponent were both armed with clubs, not six racist skinheads,

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as Park had reported. On the twenty eighth of January

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nineteen ninety two, Park pleaded guilty to bank robbery charges

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in their an arrangement where the government agreed to drop

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weapons charges. Under federal sentencing guidelines, he could be sentenced

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up to eighty years in prison. A Maryland House a

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Delegates candidate returned to his Fort Washington home in September

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nineteen ninety to find two of his campaign signs burning

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in his yard in racial epithets painted on his garage.

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David Valderrama, a former Prince George's County or fie Udan's

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Court judge of Filipino descent, was running on a was

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running on a slate of candidates called the Democratic Unity Team,

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which included five blacks, the judge, and one white. He

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speculated that the incident was the work of a bigot

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or political opponent. Within a few days, another story began

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to emerge. As investigating officers began to probe deeper into

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Valdorama's story, he stopped cooperating. Lieutenant Colonel Robert Phillips, commander

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of the Patrol Division, noted that he failed to keep

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appointments for questioning. On the first occasion, he did not

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keep the appointment, indicating that his schedule prevented it. On

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the second occasion, he said he would not give a

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statement on the advice of his attorney. Police also said

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that they had fingerprint evidence in a case of alleged

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hate mail directed at Valderrama, but when they asked him

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to provide his fingerprints or take a polygraph examination, he refused.

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In the meantime, the criminal investigation focus began to shift

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toward a campaign staffer who also refused to cooperate with investigators.

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of the skillfully generated publicity by Valderama's handling of the incidents.

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the case was closed, although a WUSATV television report said

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that Valderama was a suspect in the case. A major

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crossburning case in Prince George's County was closed because of

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political pressure, according to reports which say that the stumbling

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block was the office of State Attorney Alex Williams. Mister

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Williams is politically aligned with the person who reported the

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crime and the property State Delegate David Valderrama. In San Jose, California,

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cheen When's chen Wen's family found swastikas and anti Asian

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graffiti scrawled outside their home on December nineteen. On December

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nineteen ninety two. The vandals had written bitch in ketchup

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on When's daughter's Betty's car and wrote nip, bitch and

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KKK on the sidewalk and driveway of the house. Officer

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as a hate crime, which carries a maximum punishment of

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one year in jail in a five thousand dollars fine.

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Betting One said, we're standing up against discrimination and racism

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once and for all. I think people should be aware

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of racial tension in the community. Five days later, however,

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newspapers downgraded the hate crime to a prank. Police detective

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Sergeant Art Munio said the seventeen year old culprit also

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a Vietnamese American and had quarreled with betting When three

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months previous and drew swastiks, swastikas, KKK, and slogans on

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the family property to anger the girl. Detective Munio said

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that investigators felt something wasn't right at the beginning of

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the case. Some of the slurs used almost polite language

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instead of the ugly terms often used in Bonafied hate crimes.

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Sergei rivera Ayala, a native of Mexico and a Spanish

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instructor at Syracuse University in New York, claimed that he

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had been abducted at Knife Went by two men. Sheriff's

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deputies found him lying on the roadside July eleven, nineteen

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ninety it, his hands tied behind his back with his

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own bandana. He said he had been shopping for milk

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at a Courtland grocery store. Deputies didn't believe him, and

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he was arrested for a burglary at a nearby home.

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Ayala maintained that he had been arrested and victimized by

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police solely because of his race. Nine months later, in

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April nineteen ninety one, I Yala pleaded guilty to a

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reduced crime, a criminal trespass in the second degree, a

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Class A misdemeanor, and admitted in writing that the adduction

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story was a hoax. Ayalain assigned statement said to the

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extent that there has been created the impression that I

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was arrested, prosecuted, and persecuted because of my Mexican heritage

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and descent. I apologize. In Detroit, Michigan, an Arab American

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was charged with arson in a nineteen ninety one incident

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in which he blamed anti Arab racism for a fire

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at his dairy. Queen Kareem Cory, thirty six, was indicted

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on charge of of arson and insurance fraud in July

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nineteen ninety three, according to US attorney Stephen Markman. According

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to news reports, prosecutor said Curry hired an employee to

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set the January nineteen ninety one fire to collect the insurance.

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The fire caused up to five hundred thousand dollars in damage.

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the restaurant, and authorities set an authorities set appeared to

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be an anti Arab attack, and calling at a restaurant's

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a stretch, But okay, all right? Chapter eight False charges

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of racism and anti Semitism. Given the strong social taboos

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attached to anything perceived as racism or anti Semitism, it

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is no small thing when false charges of this sort

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of leveled. A major difficulty lies in the fact that

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both racism and anti semitism are vague and poorly defined

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terms in popular usage. I can tell you what they

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both are. There are both terms applied to people that

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other don't like, there you go. Eric Brindle makes the observation,

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this observation about racism, the very charge of racism has

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already been rendered nearly meaningless by those who use it

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recklessly to describe everything with which they're unhappy, from university

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tuition increases to the black dropout rate, to the indictment

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of Marion Barry to the appearance of crack in the

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inner city. David Wilson, a columnist for The Boston Globe,

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noted that to be accused of racism is like being

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sprayed by a skunk. He continues, even if a holy

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exculpatory response can be made, the party charged with racism

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remains subtly tainted, possibly because the charge itself consistent part

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of a self fulfilling prophecy. The accused, or narrowly ambushed

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and unaccustomed to being insulted and light about, is unlikely

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to think kindly of the accuser. Nope, that's a good point.

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what's the What is usually the main factor in somebody

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deciding that, you know, it's not all of a race,

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but I'm deciding that I'm going to avoid that race.

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Is that racis or that group's behavior. That's it. Normally,

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that's it. H nothing else. Anti Semitism is even worse.

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It conjures up images of concentration camps, gas chambers, and

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Nazi stormtroopers. When John Carroll, a columnist for the San

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Francisco Examiner, criticized Israel for his treatment of the Palestinians,

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he was deluged with hate mail, which he characterizes easily

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the most personally hostile I've ever received. Shocking huhh, I mean,

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like since October seventh of twenty twenty three. I mean,

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he says, I was called an anti Semite. It's a

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cheap libel because it's so impossible to refute. Try it yourself.

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I've just called you an anti Semite. What do you do? Now?

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What do I do? And? Okay? What? I hope that

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you didn't say that some of your best friends are Jewish?

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That was revealed long ago as just another euphemism for

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anti Semitism. So what else? Remember? I actually praised the

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contributions to Jews to the twentieth century culture. That was

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seen by more than one correspondent as proof of my

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sneaky tactics. Don't do that don't do that, and your retarding.

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You can't even point out the unfairness of it. That's

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called blaming the victim. So what do you do? You

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just shut up, is what you do. You can't prove

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a negative. There it is on the record. You're an

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anti Semite because someone said so, and and and fuck

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off that there's a good response. That's the one I liked.

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Sometimes resistant is not all feudal. Here are some accounts

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of individuals and in case and in one case the

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US Army who fought back when they were falsely charged

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with racism and anti semitism. An incident which demonstrates the

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credulousness of both the news media and politicians whenever anti

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Semitism is invoked, occurred when World War II veteran David

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Ribitski seventy one, claimed in nineteen eighty eight that he

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had single handedly wiped out up to six hundred Japanese

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soldiers in the Battle of New Guinea on December first,

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nineteen forty two, a transparently fantastic allegation. I mean, I

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have a Rabbitski, there's too much My brain just fried.

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The bodies of the Japanese soldiers were lying there on branches,

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roots piled up like cordwood atop one another. Some were

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still alive, Some are just hitting the shoulder and couldn't

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and couldn't move some of the legs. So I would

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just shoot them and banonet them, shoot them and banonet them.

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I was completely an insane man to think that a

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human being would be would do that to another human

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being what I did. Rabisky, a communication sergeant at the time,

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said the ordeal took some twenty one hours, and then

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he used a thirty caliber heavy machine gun, a Browning

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automatic rifle, and an M one rifle. He also claimed

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that he had been denied a Congressional Medal of Honor

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for his heroic feat solely because of anti Semitism. He

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said that Army Colonel John W. Mott had told them

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that we don't give the medal to Jews. Okay, I'm

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not even going to talk about the fact that he

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just like completely made this up and that it's like

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the number that he the number in the amount that

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he said he killed. Okay. According to Rabitsky, this wasn't

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his only brush with anti semitism. Victim is a has

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been a recurring theme in his life. He said his

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family was frequently victimized when he was growing up in Edgerton, Wisconsin.

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Two times we had crosses burned on our lawn by

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a political organization, he said. My father was beaten up many,

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many times for no reason at all. While I was

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in the service, my mother was being harassed. For several years.

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Ribitsky diligently pursued the Medal of Honor issue, largely through

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a sympathetic and uncritical news media and the assistance of

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the Anti Defamation League. Due to pressure generated on Rubisky's

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behalf by the ADL, including a resolution signed by ninety

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two members of Congress, the Army undertook a two year

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review of his claim. In nineteen eighty seven. Newspapers around

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the nation credulously bought the story. An editorial in the

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San Francisco Chronicle opine the ugly possibility that discrimination played

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a significant role in denying the Medal of Honor to

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heroic American soldiers in both World Wars has been raised

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in the extraordinary case of Jewish veteran credited was single

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handedly killing more than five hundred inferntrymen. I thought it

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was six hundred. I add some zeros to that to

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make it realistic, The Madison, Wisconsin Capital Times published an

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article headlined World War two soldiers started anti Semitism battle

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early in life. Stories dramatizing the anti Semitism angle appeared

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in publications ranging from Time Magazine to The New York Times.

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What they really needed to do was make a TV

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movie about him murdering the six hundred people. That's what

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they needed to do. I mean, they were stacked up

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like corkwood. They were completely helpless. And this guy a

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proud Jewish man because I mean, let's face it, that's

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his whole identity is based around that. Obviously, just bayoneting

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and shooting and just kidding. I mean, I'd make for

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riveting television. How Come they didn't make a movie about that.

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In the meantime, it was learned that Rubisky had signed

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a book deal a contract with Walter Kozak, a reporter

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for National Public Radio, which had heavily publicized Ribitski's plight.

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You paid for that. Kozak's sister, Milwaukee attorney Ellen Kozak,

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is a friend of the Rubisky family. Ah I bet

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on December eighth, nineteen eighty nine, following an unprecedented twenty

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three month study of his allegations, the Army concluded that

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Ribiski's claim was unfounded. The Army obtained evidence from forensic

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specialists and took statements from Ribiski and twenty others who

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were at the scene. The Anti Defamation League called the

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decision unconscious, unconscionable. Abe Foxman said the ADL would urge

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Army Secretary Michael Stone to reverse the ruling in spite

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of the evidence. The army investigation found that a photograph

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with a message that six hundred fine soldiers died because

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of a single American soldier was spurious and forulent. Japanese

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and American military records were in agreement that knows such

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an attack by the Japanese had ever taken place. Even

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members of Rubisky's all World War II and It disputed

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his claim and called it a hoax. George hess, a

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member of Rubitsky's infantry regiment, said it's the biggest fairy

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tale anyone anybody has ever told the US Army to

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get a medal. Claire o l said the claim was

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one big hoax and that Ribitsky was hiding behind a

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smoke screen of anti Semitism. To cover up his flintmasy

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unsubstantiated fairy tale. On February ninth, nineteen ninety, two, months

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after the Army report, Jewish Week reported that the Anti

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Defamation League had finally conceded the Army's position, with that

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the story disappeared undounted. Ribitsky vowed to fight on. I

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just want to ask you to think about what he

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the claim he made, and that he was bragging about it,

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and that the US military post World War two would

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even consider giving him a medal for what he did.

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There's no honor in what he did. As a matter

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of fact, he sounds like a serial killer, is what

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he was describing that he did. If false charges that

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an individual as anti Semitic or racists are damaging, imagine

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what false charges that he has a Nazi war criminal

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might be like. A Chicago residence had to go through

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such an ordeal in nineteen seventy eight. The United States

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government eventually wound up agreeing the charges should never been

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filed in the first place, and paid thirty thousand and

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about fifty percent of his attorney fees. Frank Wallace was

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born in nineteen twenty two in Germany. When he was

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ten years old, his family moved to Poland, and Secember

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nineteen thirty nine, the Germans invaded that country, and five

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months later Wallace, who was a small stature, and a

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group of other Polish ues were taken to Germany to

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work on farms, which he continues to do throughout the war.

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Wallas immigrated to the United States in nineteen sixty three,

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where he was joined by his wife and three children.

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He became a naturalized US citizen in nineteen seventy. His

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nightmare began in January nineteen seventy seven, when he was

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served with papers by the US Justice Department accusing him

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of concealing involvement in war crimes and membership in Nazi

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organizations when he applied for citizenship. A year later, Wallace

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found himself. Wallace has spelled wa LUs for those who

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were not reading a law. A year later, Wallace found

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himself in federal court listening to a testimony that implicated

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him in the murder of nearly two dozen civilians while

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acting as a German Gestapo officer during World War II.

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The charges were the results of an investigation begun in

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nineteen seventy three by controversial Nazi hunter Simon Weisenthal. According

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to Weisenthal, his own unnamed sources and Israeli police had

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learned of a former Nazi Gestapo agent who was living

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in Chicago. The man was allegedly Frank Wallos. Fucking believable.

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During his trial, Wallace listened to utterly fantastic accounts from

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eyewitnesses imported from Israel. You think, do you really think

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we have a country? Do you really think the United

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States is a country? Is a serious country? Is a

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sovereign fucking country. Monique Razinski fifty eight, for example, said

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he saw Wallace beat a Jewish man to death with

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an iron bar next to Gestapo headquarters in Poland in

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nineteen forty. Joseph Koenigsburg, a resident of Tel Aviv, said

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he saw Wallace kill a lawyer the day after Yam

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Kapor in nineteen forty two. Maelik Vos Involved, a Tel

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Aviv shopkeeper, testified through a Yiddish language interpreter that he

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saw Vallis kill three people in Kiels on August twenty fourth,

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nineteen forty two. Among other allegations were that Wallace shot

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a mother and her two daughters in just As Shovah,

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that he shot three Jews who were too weak to work,

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that he marched ten to fifteen children, ages four to nine,

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into a building in Keels and killed all of them

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with his pistol. He was also accused of killing a

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woman who emerged from a hospital, and when her daughter

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bent over her body and cried, Mama, mama, killing her too.

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All the eyewitnesses were absolutely certain that Wallace was to

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Culpritspaper newspapers reported that they pointed to him seated at

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the defense table in hissed and polish, here is the murderer,

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or I will never forget that face. Are you fucking

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kidding me? Do you fucking see this? Do you fucking

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see this? You understand that people believe all of this

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shit because of eyewitness testimony. There was just one small

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problem with all of this. The Justice Department, Simon Weisenthal

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and all the witnesses were fucking wrong. I added the

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fucking in there. In addition to producing witnesses and documents

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that corroborated his own account, there were several major discrepancies

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that should have tipped off government attorneys. Among them were

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the fact that Wallace was only five foot two inches tall,

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far too short. To be allowed to join Gestapo in

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the first place. Some witnesses claimed Wallace was over six

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feet tall, and he would have had to have been

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a Gestapo officer at age nineteen or twenty, which was impossible. Nevertheless,

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a civil trial, with rules of evidence far more lenient

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than in the criminal trial, presided over by Judge Julius Hoffmann,

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found Wallace guilty and ordered deportation Proceedings later, an appeals

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court reversed the conviction and ordered a new trial. By

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this time, however, Justice Department officials were beginning to realize

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that would face a major they would face a major

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embarrassment if another trial were to take place. They dismissed

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the case, apologize, and awarded Wallace thirty four thousand of

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the estimated sixty thousand he had spent on his defense.

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Frank Wallace puzzles to this day how the US government

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could have been led by the nose by professional Nazi

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hunters and their quote unquote witnesses. He says, before January

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twenty sixth, nineteen seventy seven, nobody called me in, or

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nobody came over to see me and maybe ask me,

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mister Wallace, listen, we have a complain against you. What

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do you want to say about this? Do you have

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any proof that this is not true? As far as

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I'm concerned, these are probably professional witnesses, paid witnesses who

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do this shit. I don't know if Simon Weasenthal is

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still with us, but the guy was a fucking scumbag.

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The fact that his name is on any building will

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hopefully be changed one day, especially in this fucking country.

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To make matters worse. When Wallace had the temerity to

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complain of Weisenthal's tactics, Weisenthal sued him for slander, claiming

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that Wallace's comments were false and slanderous, and that they

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caused Weisenthal to fall into discredit with those persons with

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whom he had contact, and he had and had been

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held in public contempt, hatred, and ridicule. Weisenthal also charged

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at the newspaper that printed Wallace's comments had active irresponsibly

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and recklessly with a reckless disregard for the truth. The

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suit was eventually dismissed. Fucking scum Canadian teacher Luba Federick

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kew Fedderick Q. I'm gonna call her Luba from now on,

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running running for the Canadian Parliament in nineteen eighty four,

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discovered to our utter amazement that the Venet Breadth Canada,

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a major Jewish anti defamation organization, had circulated an internal

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memo which accused her of jew bating. The allegation was

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reported in the Winnipeg Sun, along with the fact that

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she was being investigated by Bene Breth on suspicion of

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anti Semitism. The resulting defamation cost her the election and

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subjected her to malicious harassment. According to Luba, when the

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investigation was publicized, she received obscene and harassing telephone calls,

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a swastika was spray painted on her campaign office, and

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a number of her political supporters withdrew their support. Luba

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sued Bena Brith for libel in nineteen eighty seven. She

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claimed that the defamatory statements circulated by the Jewish organization

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had destroyed her reputation and ruined her chances for an

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election victory. During her trial, the court heard that she

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had allegedly charged that her opponent was controlled by the Jews.

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The four woman, two men, I mean literally every fucking

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pol politician in Washington, every member of Congress, has an

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apat guy. This wouldn't even be controversial, except you, said Jews.

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The four women, two men jury found that this charge

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against Luba was false and that ben a Breath had

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acted out of malice and circulating the unfounded charge. The

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jury found for Luba and awarded her a total of

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four hundred thousand damages. On November twenty fifth, nineteen eighty seven,

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Luba said, I feel I've been vindicated. I feel my

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name has been cleared in Winnipeg through the Progressive Conservative

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Party and throughout Canada. They are a progressive Conservative party,

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sounds like ours. I'd like to go on with my

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career as a teacher and go on with my personal life.

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I want to get back to my students. I missed them.

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The Jewish press agonized over the decision. The Jewish Post

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and News editorialized that the jury awarded her unaward was

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un fair and questioned Luba's motives and filing the libel suit.

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She wanted money. She wanted money because she had been damaged.

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She wanted money because she was she had been damaged.

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She didn't just want money. The paper complained that she

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was negligent and not investigating her campaign staff for making

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allegedly antisemitic remarks, the paper said. Instead, she went on,

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after her election loss to David Orlocow to sue the

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League for Human Rights of ben A Breath, implicitly blaming

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it for her defeat. If Luba wanted to dispel the

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uncertainty that had arisen during her campaign about her servitude

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towards Jews, taking court action against a Jewish service group

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was a strange way to do it. Yeah, there's only

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certain groups that are there's only certain people that are

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allowed to use, you know, the courts. Equally disturbing was

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the sheer vindictiveness of the jury in last week's defamation. Yeah,

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that whole jury, six people. They should probably they should

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probably be sent to Israel to be tried. Right. It

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is possible that some of them had preconceptions about Jews that,

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at a subconscious level, they saw last week's trial as

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a battle for justice by a non Jewish victim wrong

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by the wealthy, evil Jews characterized in anti Semitic folklore. Yeah,

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there's something about folklore. Ben a Birth appealed the decision

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as promised, but when they saw that the original decision

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was receiving a sympathetic hearing, from the Maniteb Manzoeba Court

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of Appeal. They dropped it and settled with Luba for

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an undisclosed sum. Luba said the money was secondary. The

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apology was what I wanted. If ben a Breth had

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apologized in the beginning, we could have avoided a costly

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court case. I am happy the matter has been laid

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to rest and I can get on with my life.

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In February nineteen eighty nine, after the matter was finally settled,

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the Canadian Jewish News editorialized in battling the enemies of Judaism, However,

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some segments of the Jewish community had permitted an understandable

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zeal to triumph over common sense, forgetting that they must

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be careful to distinguish between legitimate debate and overt expressions

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of bigotry. So she was awarded four hundred thousand dollars,

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and this is nineteen eighty seven or nineteen eighty nine,

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and it wasn't it wasn't even a dent. Do you

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think that benay Breth Canada had to close down because

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of four hundred thousand dollars? Huh? Yeah, something to think about.

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Right in Bay Harbor, Florida, Arthur Green had dinner at

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the LaBelle Epoch restaurant in September nineteen eighty two. Green,

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former vice president of Temple Israel of Greater Miami and

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an active member of the Greater Miami Jewish Federation, had

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been sitting at a nearby table and witnessed a complaint

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by another customer over reveal chop. He wrote owner Dennis

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Ready about the incident. Ready, who speaks with a heavy

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French accent, telephoned Green in response to the letter, and

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a heated exchange ensued. Green claimed that Ready called them

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a dirty jew and akka word and that all Jews

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are alike. You're all out to get something for nothing.

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Ready denies this. Green then wrote a letter accusing Reddy

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of anti Semitism and threatened to put him out of business.

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This is shocking news. Green never sent the letter to Ready,

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but posted it on bulletin boards and Jewish condominiums and

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00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,359
circulated it to several prominent Jews. Ready's business was soon

472
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,759
the subject of a boycott. He was admonished by the

473
00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:43,119
South Florida Hotel and Motel Association and lost his Chamber

474
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,079
of Commerce membership. He went bankrupt within a year and

475
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:49,880
moved to New Orleans. Ready sued for libel, and in

476
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,759
February nineteen eighty six, a Miami Circuit Court jury of

477
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,720
five women and one men awarded him twenty two point

478
00:30:55,799 --> 00:31:00,279
five million for defamation. Green appealed the verdict, and Abruary

479
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,799
nineteen eighty nine, the Third Court of Appeals in Miami

480
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:06,920
awarded Ready five point five million. The court said that

481
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,279
Dennis Ready was entitled to an unprecedented compensatory and punitive

482
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:14,799
damage award so as to fit the vicious arrogance of

483
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:19,119
the defendant's conduct that would never happen to it. I

484
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,559
will say that will never happen today. The court ruling said,

485
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,799
the evidence indicated that the alleged anti Semitic comments attributed

486
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:32,119
to Dennis Ready by Arthur Green were completely fabricated. Imagine

487
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,759
my surprise. Often a false charge of anti semitism or

488
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:40,720
racism is made because of values, opinions, or beliefs expressed

489
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:43,440
in a public forum. In the case of Thomas Spears

490
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,880
of Waterbury, Connecticut, however, his expression of free speech landed

491
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,160
him in court and at the behest of the very

492
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,119
host of the radio talk show he appeared on. Spears

493
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
was arrested in January nineteen eighty six, after Talk after

494
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,160
radio show host j Clark, who is Jewish, filed the

495
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,519
complaint with police Hughes Spears of jew baiting because he

496
00:32:02,559 --> 00:32:07,119
frequently criticized Israel. Clark also admitted that he frequently made

497
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,640
personal attacks against Spears on the air. Spears contended that

498
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,960
he was not anti Semitic and that he was merely

499
00:32:13,079 --> 00:32:16,559
anti Zionist and anti Israel. That it doesn't work anymore, dude.

500
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,000
After October seventh, Noop, noop, fucking own it. In ordering

501
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,240
the acquittal of Spears, Superior Court Judge Anthony V. Demayo

502
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:30,759
said his choice of language might be unpleasant, but I

503
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,200
heard nothing that might be obscene or that could be

504
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,400
characterized as fighting words. All that falls into the category

505
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,079
of political speech. What'sussessed me most about the state's position

506
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,799
is that the reason we are prosecuting this defendant is

507
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,599
that his views differ so vehemently from those of the

508
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,759
talk show host. In nineteen sixty five, of fire killed

509
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:54,079
twelve people at the Younker's Jewish Community Center. Eighteen year

510
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:57,359
old Thomas Rupert, although innocent, was convicted of the crime

511
00:32:57,839 --> 00:33:01,799
after serving five years of twenty four life sentences and

512
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,200
a sentence of ten to twenty five years for arson.

513
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,519
Mister Rupert was ordered released the New York State Court

514
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,920
of Appeals ruled that he had been coerced into making

515
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,359
a confession. The fire, thought to be motivated by anti Semitism,

516
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,400
produced enormous pressure on police to produce who put the

517
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:26,440
pressure on police? Who did that? Huh? Rupert happened to

518
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,200
be in the wrong place at the wrong time. He

519
00:33:28,279 --> 00:33:32,000
steadfastly maintained his innocence. Although released from prison, his life

520
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,480
was horribly damaged by the event. Rupert died in nineteen

521
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:37,920
eighty four at the age of thirty four of liver

522
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,279
disease and other ailments. Illinois Congressman Paul Finley, a twenty

523
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:46,000
two year veteran of the US House of Representatives, was

524
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
defeated in his last election bid following an intense and

525
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:53,079
inflammatory campaign against him by various pro Israel groups. They

526
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:57,240
regarded Finley as highly critical of Israel's policies. Two of

527
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,880
Finley's fellow Illinois politicians were also defeat for reelection on

528
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,759
the same grounds, Senator Charles Pearce Percy and Adley Stevenson

529
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,639
third and since by the power of the forces arrayed

530
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,800
against him. Finley wrote a definitive expose of the Israeli

531
00:34:13,039 --> 00:34:17,000
lobby entitled They Dare to Speak Out. The book is

532
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,079
in no way hateful or even remotely anti Semitic. It

533
00:34:20,119 --> 00:34:24,559
was on bestsellers. You don't get to decide that. Only

534
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,199
they get to decide that. It was on bestseller list

535
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,760
for several weeks and is considered a definitive study of

536
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,159
interest group politics. This, however, did not keep the ADL,

537
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:40,079
through its Nebraska regional director Robert Wolfson, from defaming the

538
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,719
book and its author. A local activist had mailed out

539
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,199
several thousand copies to Nebraska professionals such as secondary school teachers,

540
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,119
university professors, and attorneys. In a statement, the ADL's Wolfson

541
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,280
said that Finley's book is a work of Holocaust revisionism,

542
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,280
seeking to spread the claim that the Nazi slaughter of

543
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Jews was a hoax. Frederick Cassman, chairman of the Omaha

544
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,800
ADL chapter, said, although purporting to criticize the israel Lobby,

545
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,039
they are actually distributing plainly anti Semitic material. They Dare

546
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:15,360
to Speak Out makes absolutely no such claim. Finley does

547
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,480
not support, nor does he even mention any form of

548
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,239
Holocaust revision in his book. The adl claim was an

549
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,320
absolute lie, but certainly produced the adverse public adverse publicity

550
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,400
against the book. They sought, you mean, they just flat

551
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:39,760
out lied? Are you fucking kidding me? They lied? I'm shocked, shocked.

552
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,320
Suffolk County District Attorney Robert Cassese found himself charged with

553
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,360
referring to defense attorney Robert Gottlieb as a little Jew

554
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,239
bastard in October nineteen ninety. The conversation in which he

555
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,800
was alleged to have made the remark was with Attorney

556
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:01,400
Raynold Morrow in a riverside, New York rest. Gottlieb had

557
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,920
been his adversary in a highly publicized murder case. So

558
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,559
great was the outcry against Casseys, who is Italian, that

559
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:13,559
its superior. Suffolk County District Attorney James Katterson conducted a

560
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,280
year long investigation of the fair The claim against Casseys

561
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,760
apparently proved to be a fabrication. According to Catterson, I

562
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,840
find not one of many allegations concerning improper remarks or

563
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,679
behavior to be substantiated. I am unable to stantiate one

564
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,840
instance of anti Semitic comment or behavior on the part

565
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:39,000
of Assistant Attorney Anthony Casseys. The charge of Nazi sympathies

566
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:42,199
is so devastating that it is a convenient device to

567
00:36:42,199 --> 00:36:45,559
defame political candidates. In nineteen eighty six, a campaign flyers

568
00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:49,679
circulated as a costa Mesa, California residents, claimed that Doug Ayates,

569
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,119
a two time city councilman, was a member of a

570
00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:56,440
secret underground Nazi party. The two page typewritten flyer, written

571
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,840
on the stationary of Mesa Action, a local political action committee,

572
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,039
attack Yates, claiming he was a member of an underground

573
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:07,679
Nazi party now operating in the Western Hemisphere. That nailed that,

574
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,239
just narrowed it down, that narrated, I mean shoot the

575
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:17,400
Western hemisphere. Wow. The flyer advised anyone seeing Yates to

576
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,280
contact Rabbi Stinowitz at the Jewish Defense League office in

577
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,000
Los Angeles. JDL leader IRV Rubin said he had never

578
00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:31,400
heard of Rabbi Stinowitz. MESA Action board members deny having

579
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,039
anything to do with the flyer. Doug Yates, a target

580
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,639
of the apparent defamation, said I don't know why I'm

581
00:37:36,639 --> 00:37:38,719
singled out for this kind of activity. Maybe there are

582
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,880
people who think I have a good chance of winning.

583
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,320
Another case of bogus anti Semitic literature occurred in Yorba Linda, California,

584
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,880
in nineteen ninety. On March twenty fifth, residents found hundreds

585
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,840
of flyers exhorting them to kill every Jew and stating

586
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,079
that they were distributed by the Methodist Fellowship. Reverend Kenneth

587
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:04,719
Chriswell passed sure at the local umc UMC distributed a

588
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,960
letter to the community stating that the literature was falsely

589
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:12,079
and fraudulently attributed to the Methodist Church. The Orange County

590
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,760
Register reported one side of the flier pictures Jesus Christ,

591
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,599
quotes from the New Testament Gospel Luke and says kill

592
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:21,519
every Jew. The other side lists supposed reasons not to

593
00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:24,960
trust Jews. The literature was apparently an attempt to link

594
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,480
a Christian denomination with hatred of Jews. A similar incident

595
00:38:28,599 --> 00:38:31,800
had occurred a few months earlier in Fullerdtson, California, where

596
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:38,320
bogus publications were also placed in mailboxes and doorsteps. Oklahoma

597
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,639
Department of Human Services Director Benjamin Demps Junior might have

598
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,960
thought he was being harassed by the KKK when he

599
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,639
saw a memo referring to him as a flying coon

600
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,199
and pledging a continuation of the good old boy ways

601
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,960
in the department. Most puzzling is that the February nineteen

602
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:59,639
ninety memo was supposedly signed by a top OHS official.

603
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,360
Investigators soon determined that the signature was taken from another

604
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,760
document sent by the official to an outside group. The

605
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,840
memo was not written in the matter of bona fide

606
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,679
OHS memos, and everyone involved with it has denied knowledge

607
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,199
of it. Affirmative Action Officer Kim Jones Shelton said the

608
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,480
department did not intend to pursue investigation. Another faked memo,

609
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:24,599
containing a variety of racial and other epithets made a

610
00:39:24,639 --> 00:39:28,639
similar stir in California. Hudson T. Carlile Junior, a member

611
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:31,559
of the Public Employment Relations Board, had asked for an

612
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:35,119
investigation after the memo was sent to the state union

613
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:39,840
leaders over his signature. According to Carlisle, someone is really

614
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,039
sick and attempting to discredit me. They xerox my signature

615
00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:45,280
from another memo and pasted it on this one. The

616
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,599
fake memo, dated December nineteen ninety one, was written on

617
00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:51,840
an official letter had a mailed through a state postal meter.

618
00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:56,760
Carlisle is quoted as referring to his critics in racist, sexist,

619
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:06,199
anti homosexual, and anti Jewish terms. Chapter nine Whites. Not

620
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360
all hoaxers are minorities with whites. However, the motive is

621
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,960
usually to implicate someone else in a crime that they

622
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,679
committed themselves, and the account seems more credible if, under

623
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,840
the circumstances, the offender is black or some other minority.

624
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:23,079
Several of the cases discovered also included false rape accusations

625
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:27,159
directed towards black anonymous males. Cases where the motive of

626
00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:31,320
the hoax is to falsely implicate minorities in anti white

627
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,480
racism are apparently rare. Benjamin Hull, a lab technician at

628
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,920
Sunridge Foods in Sunnyside, Washington, reported that a group of

629
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Hispanic youths shot off his leg on New Year's Day

630
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:48,280
nineteen ninety nine ninety one when he surprised them outside

631
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,599
his place of employment. Hull filed disability claims and collected

632
00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:55,000
some ninety five thousand in benefits. Nearly two years later,

633
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,599
Hull pull pled guilty to filing false claims and theft.

634
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,280
He admitted that he shot himself to end pain in

635
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,400
his leg resulting from a nineteen seventy three industrial accident.

636
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,039
Hull was sentence to an additional six months of work

637
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:11,960
release because of aggravating circumstances in the case. According to

638
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:17,639
Yakima County Superior Court Judge Susan Hahn, the aggravating circumstance

639
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,119
is his use of a negative social stereotype, especially here

640
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:23,960
when we fight this every day. Our quality of life

641
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,639
depends on us making significant headway on these problems. Another

642
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,760
case in which a minority was falsely blamed in conjunction

643
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,880
with the cover up of a crime involved the widely

644
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,599
publicized nineteen eighty nine Boston case in which a murder

645
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:42,400
committed to collect insurance was falsely attributed to an anonymous

646
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,559
black man. On the evening of October twenty third, nineteen

647
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,599
eighty nine, Charles Stewart and his pregnant wife Carol left

648
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,239
a childbirth class at a local hospital and were on

649
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,159
their way home when, according to Charles Stewart, a black

650
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:57,440
gunman forced his way into their automobile. The gunman forced

651
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,679
them to drive to another location where he demanded cash

652
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,800
and jewelry. Then the gunman shot Carol Stewart in the

653
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,880
head and wounded Charles Stuart in the abdomen. Charles Stewart

654
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,239
called police on a car telephone to report that his

655
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,599
wife had been killed and he had been shot by

656
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,880
a black assailant in the Mission Hill district. The gruesome scene,

657
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,360
including a dramatic tape of rescue efforts by police and paramedics,

658
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,679
stirred a volatile mixture of fear and outrage. As a victim,

659
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,960
Stuart became a media hero. In the meantime, Willie Bennett,

660
00:42:26,159 --> 00:42:29,000
a black man, was arrested after Stuart identified him as

661
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:34,400
looking most like the murderer. The story began to unravel

662
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,519
when skillful police investigation produced evidence that pointed to Stuart

663
00:42:38,519 --> 00:42:41,320
as to killer out to collect a substantial insurance policy.

664
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,760
Charles's brother, Matthew Stewart, went to police and confessed to

665
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,519
being an accessory. After the fact, he had helped Charles

666
00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:51,840
dispose of incriminating evidence. With police closing in, Charles Stewart

667
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,480
committed suicide by jumping off a bridge into the Mystic

668
00:42:54,599 --> 00:43:01,039
River Willie Bennett. Of course, Willy Bennett was of course exonerated.

669
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,039
What was scary about the case is how journalists initially

670
00:43:04,039 --> 00:43:06,960
bought Charles Stuart's story when there was evidence to doubt

671
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
it from the beginning. According to news reports, many Boston

672
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:12,599
journalists can see that they were aware of rumors and

673
00:43:12,639 --> 00:43:16,840
inconsistencies almost from the start about the husband's account. It's

674
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,239
important to note that the purpose of Stuart's fabrication was

675
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,880
not to commit a hate crime hoax, but to divert

676
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,280
attention from himself. His designation of the killer as a

677
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,599
black man was credible in a community with a high

678
00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:31,000
black crime rate. Statistically, the killer was more likely to

679
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,599
be black than white. Occasionally, one member of a victimized

680
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,400
class will perpetrate a hoax or fabrication against a member

681
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,480
of another victimized class. The most common example is when

682
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,159
a woman claims to women rate by a member of

683
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:46,360
a minority group. This happened at George Washington University in

684
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,320
the district The Columbian December nineteen ninety when a student,

685
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Mary M. Kashani, reported a rape incident which never occurred

686
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:59,280
to the campus paper, appropriately named The Hatchet. She told

687
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,599
them an incident which two young black men with particularly

688
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,800
bad body odor had raped a white female student at

689
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,119
knife point, and the hatshert reported the incident without sufficiently

690
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:12,880
confirming the authenticity of the various sources. According to New

691
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:17,159
York Times reporter Felicity Barringer, the effect was electric. Students

692
00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:20,880
called their parents, University administrators called trustees. The campus police

693
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,119
called the district the Columbia Police. Then, the day after

694
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:29,159
the newspaper report, a lawyer from Miriam Kashani, the sophomore

695
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,920
who said she knew the victim and was the newspaper's

696
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,880
main source of information about the attack, called the campus

697
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,320
police to say she made up the report. Miss Kashani,

698
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,480
an active feminist who had been involved in rape crisis

699
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,079
counseling at Tulane University, had also said the rapist had

700
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:49,000
told the victim, you are pretty good for a white girl.

701
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,280
When confronted about the incident, Miss Kashani used an excuse

702
00:44:53,559 --> 00:44:57,239
often involved in invoked in hoaxes. She said that she

703
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,239
had hoped the story is reported would have I like

704
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,519
the problem of safety for women. Ronnie Thaxtend. Campus black

705
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,800
activists said, I was outraged. I think it was just

706
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,719
another attempt by some white people to discredit young black

707
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,400
males in this country. In December nineteen ninety three, a

708
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,000
fifteen year old Norwood, Massachusetts, white girl falsely claimed that

709
00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,920
she had been attacked by four black women who shot

710
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,199
a racial slurs at her. According to news reports, Norwood

711
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Police Detective Sergeant William G. Brookes said the girl who

712
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,000
reported being attacked in December twenty third by four strangers

713
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:33,719
was actually injured in a pre arranged fight with another

714
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,679
young woman. Brooks said that when the victims of saint

715
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,239
cuts and scratches, she invented the story about being jumped

716
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,519
to explain the injuries to her parents. Police charge a

717
00:45:42,559 --> 00:45:47,000
girl as juvenile with falsely reporting a crime, a misdemeanor

718
00:45:47,079 --> 00:45:49,280
that carries a fine of up to five hundred dollars

719
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,159
or one year in jail. And Hazel Park, Michigan, a

720
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:55,480
thirty one year old white woman told police that three

721
00:45:55,639 --> 00:45:58,599
bat wielding black men beat her and kidnapped her friend

722
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:02,840
last November had an automatic teller machine in Ferndale. According

723
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,800
to police, the whole thing was a hoax devised by

724
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,280
the woman, who was married, concocted after her boyfriend beat

725
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,239
her up. In October nineteen eighty nine, two white women

726
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,480
from Sterling Heights falsely reported the two blackmails robbed and

727
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,880
beat them in the Oakland Mall parking lot. The woman

728
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,639
said that the men fired a shot into their car.

729
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:26,960
Police investigators said the women, both eighteen, were indeed robbed,

730
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,840
but police said the assault occurred as the women were

731
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,039
trying to buy marijuana in a Detroit alley. Police said

732
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:35,400
the women made up the story to explain the damage

733
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,920
to the car. Things are when you're looking at like

734
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,239
incidents where you have a group that does the overwhelming

735
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,039
amount of crime, especially violent crime, you have to make

736
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:57,400
shut up. Don't don't do that, Just let it go.

737
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Let the fact cover everything. Chapter ten International. Sometimes racist

738
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,519
and anti Semitic coaxes involved parties we would never think of.

739
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Hoaxes have been a common device used by Iron Curtain

740
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,119
intelligence services and communist organizations to discredit their enemies and

741
00:47:16,159 --> 00:47:19,920
win support from racial, ethnic, and even religious interest groups

742
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,679
since before the Russian Revolution. During the Olympic Games in

743
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,920
Los Angeles in nineteen eighty four, a number of Asian

744
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,880
and African Olympic Committee offices found themselves recipients of racist literature.

745
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,000
The Zimbabwe Committee, for example, received flyers containing some threatening

746
00:47:35,079 --> 00:47:40,159
language and illustrated and illustrated with a drawing of a

747
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:44,239
white hooded klansman on a rearing horse and a monkey

748
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,639
with a rope tied around his neck. Other delegations received

749
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:52,079
similar literature. An investigation followed, and the culprit was determined

750
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:56,960
in short order. US Attorney General William French Smith confirmed

751
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,800
that the racially defaminatory material was not the work of

752
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,280
the klu Kluxlan, but rather the Soviet KGB. The effort

753
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,320
was part of a disinformation campaign to mislead public opinion

754
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,920
and create the impression of widespread racism. According to Smith,

755
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,360
although I can't detail all of what we know about

756
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,760
these documents for fear of helping the authors to refine

757
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,360
their techniques, a thorough analysis including linguistic and forensic techniques,

758
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,880
reveals that they are classic examples of a Soviet forgery

759
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:27,159
or disinformation operation. In form sources close to the FBI

760
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,960
report that other incidents may also be KGB related. It's

761
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,280
rather interesting considering, if I remember correctly, the Soviets didn't

762
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:41,440
show up to the La Olympics because the United States

763
00:48:41,519 --> 00:48:47,599
boycotted the nineteen eighty Olympics, which I believe were in Moscow.

764
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:54,760
I think that's how that worked. Another case involving the

765
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,440
KGB surface recently with the defection of East German intelligence agents.

766
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:05,599
The West German newspaper Veldt reported in nineteen ninety that

767
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,760
West German security authorities had determined that the KGB or

768
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:13,280
other Soviet state security services were responsible for numerous desecrations

769
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,679
of synagogues in West Germany over the past forty years.

770
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:19,480
The article also noted that the KGB worked in close

771
00:49:19,519 --> 00:49:26,960
cooperation with neo Nazi groups. I'm thinking of one that

772
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:32,480
people call and you know, oh okay. John Barron in

773
00:49:32,519 --> 00:49:36,760
his book KGB Secret Work of Soviet secret agents, discussed

774
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,280
as Communist complicity and anti Semitic hoaxes, He says, under

775
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,079
KGB guidance to check STB started mailing virulent anti Semitic

776
00:49:46,119 --> 00:49:50,400
tracks to French, British and American American officials in Europe.

777
00:49:51,599 --> 00:49:58,400
They bore the imp impromoteur, im premmateure of non existent

778
00:49:58,519 --> 00:50:03,159
Nazi group. Let's also remember that at this time that

779
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:07,280
he's writing this, the Soviet Union had just fell. This

780
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,480
could all still be I'm not saying that this didn't happen.

781
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:13,239
This sounds like stuff that could have happened. But we're

782
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:22,679
also there's a back and forth going on of propaganda.

783
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,280
So additional evidence for the role of the KGB and

784
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,599
other Iron Curtain intelligence agencies and bogus Neo Nazi and

785
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:36,880
anti Semitic activities is Christopher Andrew and Ole Gordievsky's detailed

786
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,320
nineteen ninety account of the Soviet Secret Police KGB, The

787
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,960
Inside Story. The author cite the case of KGB General

788
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,559
Ivan Ivanovich Agayantz, who in nineteen fifty nine created a

789
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:51,840
new disinformation section within the First Chief Directorate of the

790
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840
a KGB. One of his first targets was West Germany,

791
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,360
which a KGB wanted to portray as riddled with Neo

792
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,239
Nazis and anti Semites. To test one of techniques, Agayants

793
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,480
sent a group of KGB off officers to a village

794
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:08,519
near Moscow, where they dabbed swastikas, anti Jewish slogans and

795
00:51:08,599 --> 00:51:13,679
kicked over Jewish tombstones. A small anti Jewish minority in

796
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,079
the village took the bait and performed copycat anti Jewish

797
00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:21,440
acts on their own. According to the authors, during the

798
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,159
winter of nineteen fifty nine to sixty, Agayants used the

799
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:27,519
same technique with great success in West Germany. East German

800
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:31,480
Asians were dispatched to the West to defaced Jewish memorials,

801
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,400
synagogues and shops, and to paint anti Semitic slogans. Local

802
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,519
hooligans and the on Nazis then spontaneously continued the KGB campaign.

803
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:47,199
Between Christmas Eve nineteen fifty nine and mid February nineteen

804
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,519
sixty eight, hundred and thirty three anti Semitic acts were

805
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:54,599
recorded by the West German authorities. The campaign then suddenly ceased,

806
00:51:54,639 --> 00:51:57,920
but not before the Federal Republic's international reputation had been

807
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:02,360
gravely damaged. There are serious suspicion intelligence circles that much

808
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,360
of the current neo Nazi activity in the new United

809
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,360
Germany may have the mark of a rogue Communist intelligence operation.

810
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:16,599
See what happens when Communism falls the Nazis return. I

811
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:19,280
think this points a lot towards what Thomas has been

812
00:52:19,519 --> 00:52:24,199
talking about in a few of our series. Yeah, these

813
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:28,840
you know, East Germany and the Soviet Union were very

814
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:37,559
anti anti Zionists, were very anti They saw West Germany

815
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:46,760
as an occupation and a Zionist occupation regime. And you

816
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:52,159
know what is it fifty sixty years later, it's pretty

817
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:58,199
much the whole West Landeslav Beietmann, an agent for the

818
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:01,360
Czechoslovak intelligence agents. The defectives to the United States in

819
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,039
nineteen seventy four. All right, I'm going to read this,

820
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:09,880
but I will warn you don't trust anything defectors say.

821
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,760
The first thing they do is go to the State

822
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:17,880
Department and they immediately are basically told what they're allowed

823
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:23,000
to say. They get their stories. A lot of people

824
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:30,199
like to talk about uribezmenoff. Notice that none, none of these,

825
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,440
none of these people who come defected talk about a

826
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,440
certain group. Ever. I interviewed a defector once, somebody who

827
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,280
defected from the Soviet Union to the United States. It

828
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:58,079
was tedious and I wasn't asking hard questions. Now professor

829
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,920
at Boston University and living under the name Lauren's Martin Bittman,

830
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,199
he teaches classes on propaganda and disinformation. According to F.

831
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,719
Mark Wyatt, a retired CIA official who has dealt with defectors,

832
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,199
Bitman was really one of the great experts of the

833
00:54:10,199 --> 00:54:14,760
Communist block, the Soviet Block on disinformation. Bitman's reputation was

834
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,920
built largely on one of the most effective disinformation campaigns

835
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,199
of post war Europe, i e. Keeping the Nazi menace alive,

836
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,199
for propaganda purposes, not unlike some hoaxes in the United States.

837
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:29,639
According to news reports, his greatest success was Operation Neptune,

838
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:32,960
a nineteen sixty four ruse intended to damage West Germany's

839
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:38,079
relationship with its European neighbors. Professor Martin Bittman secretly placed

840
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,920
what he said were four boxes of Nazi archives on

841
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,280
the murky bottom of a lake in Czechoslovakia. Then he

842
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,679
helped the television crew discover the boxes, which contained lists

843
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,559
of purported Nazi spies and collaborators. A documentary about the

844
00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:56,360
apparent discovery of cadre of previously undisclosed Nazi spies raised

845
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,320
anew the issue of prosecutions for war crimes, and the

846
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,559
West German government extended the Statute of limitations for such crimes.

847
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:08,519
Fake documents published by Eastern Bloc intelligence agencies surfaced in

848
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,559
the scandal involving Austrian president and former UN Secretary General

849
00:55:12,679 --> 00:55:18,840
Kurt Waldheim. He was accused of war crime complicit complicitly

850
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,159
during World War II. In February nineteen eighty eight, the

851
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:26,320
Yugoslav Press Agency reported that a document linking Waldheim to

852
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,480
Nazi war crimes was a fake. According to news reports.

853
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,039
The document was purported to be a nineteen forty two

854
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:36,960
telegram advising that a Lieutenant Kurt Waldheim requested the deportation

855
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:39,960
of more than four thousand Yugoslav citizens during World War II.

856
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:44,440
The West German magazine Der Spiegel published a document February first,

857
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,440
and said it had been provided by a Yugoslav historian.

858
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,800
A typewriting expert had concluded that the machine used to

859
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,280
type the fake telegram was not available before nineteen forty

860
00:55:54,320 --> 00:56:00,559
eight what I say A year earlier, in April nineteen

861
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:03,920
eighty seven, the Israeli Jerusalem Post admitted that it had

862
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:09,000
published a forged letter purportedly from Austrian Prime Minister Alois

863
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,280
Mach to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, suggesting that Austrian

864
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,519
President Curt Waldheim should resign in the wake of a

865
00:56:15,559 --> 00:56:19,480
scandal involving his alleged wartime activities in the German Army.

866
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,960
Mister Mack denied ever writing a letter the Post that

867
00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:26,000
a lengthy inquiry had determined that the letter, which had

868
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:32,320
published in February was of abrication. The Anti Nazi League

869
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,119
is a major British anti fascist group. It works closely

870
00:56:36,159 --> 00:56:38,760
with Jewish and other minority interest groups. However, to the

871
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:43,360
consternation of representatives of the Brighton and Hove Hebrew Congregation.

872
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:47,320
In March nineteen ninety three, the ANL organized a march

873
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:52,320
in protest against an anti Semitic cemetery desecration that never occurred.

874
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,519
Some three hundred people took part in the march. A

875
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:58,519
security officer at the cemetery became suspicious when he was

876
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,559
told that the graves in the con Congreations Florence Road

877
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:05,280
Cemetery had been dabbed with swastikers and that they had

878
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,639
been removed by the gardener. The cemetery, however, does not

879
00:57:08,679 --> 00:57:11,719
employ a gardener. The officer noted that the cemetery has

880
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,119
no record of dabbings for at least thirty years. The incident,

881
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:20,880
in fact, had never occurred. Jules Grossette, the Dutch actor

882
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,159
whose father was Jewish, reported being abducted by Neo Nazis

883
00:57:24,199 --> 00:57:29,679
in the city of Charleroi, Belgium, in December nineteen eighty seven.

884
00:57:30,599 --> 00:57:37,039
Just did a substack about Charleroy, Pennsylvania, a court which

885
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,840
was originally a Belgian city. Imagine that, according to Corse,

886
00:57:41,559 --> 00:57:44,039
he was seized by two men and a woman who

887
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,280
forced him into a sewer, tied him up, took his

888
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,639
star of David Chane from his neck, and dubbed a

889
00:57:48,639 --> 00:57:52,679
swastika on his check the chest, among other violent humiliations.

890
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:56,679
The news electrified the Netherlands. Cossette was known for his

891
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,000
anti Nazi views. He was prominent in the theater city

892
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,000
in preventing staging of a play that critics had denounced

893
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,280
as anti Semitic. On December twelfth, a large demonstration was

894
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,000
held in an Amsterdam church in support of Corossett. The

895
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,440
speaker of the Dutch Parliament said the Neo Nazi rats

896
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,039
were coming out of their holes. On the sixth of

897
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,079
January nineteen eighty eight, however, Belgian police announced that Jules

898
00:58:18,119 --> 00:58:21,400
Grossette had admitted to having staged to kidnapping. He had

899
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,000
also cement he had also sent anti Semitic letters to

900
00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:32,199
prominent Dutch Jews. What you're doing there, Rabbi. Also in

901
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:35,039
the Netherlands, the capital of Amsterdam was fooled for five

902
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,320
days in February nineteen ninety three into thinking that violent

903
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,360
Neo Nazis were active in the community. A monument of

904
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,159
victims of the Auschwitz Auschwitz concentration camp had been smashed,

905
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,679
one of the most one of the worst recent acts

906
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:51,280
of anti Semitic violence in the small nation. However, according

907
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:55,400
to news reports, the nation seemed placated after hearing that

908
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,000
a glass cutter identified as Rude s had confessed to

909
00:58:59,039 --> 00:59:02,039
shattering the monument. He claimed he was under orders to

910
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:04,559
remove all evidence of a construction flaw that would have

911
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:09,840
been a terrific embarrassment to the company. In Haifa, Israel,

912
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,400
two Jewish men, David Goldner forty one and Gershaun Tenenbaum,

913
00:59:13,519 --> 00:59:16,480
thirty two, were arrested in May nineteen ninety following the

914
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,960
desecration of two Jewish graveyards, an event which received worldwide attention.

915
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,360
Slogan's in perfect Hebrew calling for the destruction of Judaism

916
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:27,920
and for the founding of a Palestinian state were found

917
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,719
on more than two hundred and fifty headstones. One inscription

918
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:36,880
read Arabs will kill the Jews. Israeli Religious Affairs Minister

919
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,000
zevelon Hammer said that there may have been a connection

920
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:45,239
with this incident in the desecration of Jewish graves in France,

921
00:59:45,639 --> 00:59:49,360
which were widely brahmed on right wing hate groups. Goldman

922
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,920
and Tenenbaum reported that their motive was to unite the

923
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:57,880
Jewish people against the Arab states in Israel. Eight Jewish

924
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,039
settlers were charged in the September nineteen eight nine firebombing

925
01:00:01,159 --> 01:00:04,320
of Israeli property and stoning of other Jewish settlers to

926
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:12,639
stir up anti Arab settlement in Jewish settlers are fucking nuts.

927
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,960
In one instant, Israeli radio said settlers hold the firebomb

928
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:25,360
in an Israeli owned car near Guino Schomron somewhere, a

929
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,360
settlement in the West Bank. In response, settlers from the

930
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,679
Jewish enclave of Ariel raided a nearby Arab village and

931
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:36,360
vandalized property. Ariel had earlier acquired Arab workers to wear

932
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:42,480
tags identifying themselves as Alien works had to aware i'm

933
01:00:42,519 --> 01:00:47,679
huh on their shirts. There have been numerous instances of

934
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,440
Israeli extremist staging hoaxes to implicate Arabs and terrorism. A

935
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:55,559
black swastika was painted on the grave of former Israeli

936
01:00:55,599 --> 01:01:00,000
Prime Minister Menachem Began in Jerusalem in November nineteen ninety.

937
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,480
After the vandalism, Israeli newspapers in the state run radio

938
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:06,840
received phone calls from men who said the attack was

939
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,119
in response to the desecration of the graves of the Righteous.

940
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,880
Police said the vandalism seemed to be the work of

941
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:18,239
fanatic religious Jews. The British daily The Guardian reported in

942
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,880
April nineteen ninety two that a Berlin woman who reported

943
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,719
her infant son had been kidnapped by neo Nazi skidtheads

944
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:28,440
later admitted she killed the baby. Police reported the body

945
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,840
of the three month old boy was found in a

946
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,840
pool pond. In Berlin, a group of neo Nazi raiders

947
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,199
set fire to the home of a Jewish restaurant owner

948
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,800
in August nineteen seventy nine. Is called swastikas and anti

949
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:47,760
Semitic slogans on the walls Judenraus Jews Get Out. The

950
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,760
attack in Berlin's elegant Grunewald residential district fanned fears of

951
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,199
a Nazi revival and was widely reported as evidence for such.

952
01:01:56,719 --> 01:01:59,519
Following an investigation, however, the police determined that the incident

953
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:01,880
was an arse and plots to collect insurance on the building.

954
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:06,760
The businessman Gunter Allen, whose house was burned, was in

955
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,519
on the plot. One of the hired arsonists was badly

956
01:02:09,559 --> 01:02:14,079
burned when the gasoline blew up in his face and Halle, Germany,

957
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:17,760
ten thousand people demonstrated in January nineteen ninety four to

958
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,679
protest a Neo Nazi attack on a teenage girl confined

959
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:23,440
to a wheelchair. The seventeen year old girl had told

960
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,960
police that three Neo Nazis had carved a swastika on

961
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:29,239
a left cheek after she refused to repeat slogans such

962
01:02:29,239 --> 01:02:33,639
as hyle Hitler and gas the cripples. For five days,

963
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:37,039
the incident in the eastern German city captured headlines around

964
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:40,159
the world. Police reported that they had no clues. Two

965
01:02:40,239 --> 01:02:42,519
days later, it became apparent why there were no clues.

966
01:02:42,679 --> 01:02:46,800
The saxony Anhalt prosecutor's office reported the girl had apparently

967
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,559
inflicted the wound herself. Interrogation had produced discrepancy, discrepancies and

968
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:56,639
inconsistencies in her story. The faked attack was unpleasant consequences

969
01:02:56,639 --> 01:02:59,800
for bona fide and suspected Neo Nazis, however, as this

970
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,880
so often in the case. As is so often the case,

971
01:03:03,239 --> 01:03:07,679
according to news reports worded, the attacks stun Germans. Leading

972
01:03:07,719 --> 01:03:13,920
politicians demanded quick police action, and President Richard Vaughn Bisector

973
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:18,519
condemned the assault. Hundreds tried to track down the alleged attackers,

974
01:03:18,519 --> 01:03:22,119
and authorities searched a homes of dozens of suspected Neo Nazis.

975
01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:26,519
An item in the January fifteenth, nineteen ninety four International

976
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:29,159
Herald Tribune noted that the doctors who examined the wound

977
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:33,639
also suspect that it was self inflicted. The article also

978
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:36,400
noted that several recent attacks by Neo Nazis have been

979
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:42,440
exposed as fraud. Two weeks after the hoax in Halle,

980
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:46,920
another German girl committed a copycat hoax in Munich. According

981
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,519
to news reports, a fourteen year old Bavarian school girls

982
01:03:49,559 --> 01:03:52,000
sliced herself with a razor and claimed she had been

983
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:54,159
attacked by Neo Nazis in what appeared to be an

984
01:03:54,199 --> 01:03:58,039
imitation of the wheelchair bound girls hoax to cause national

985
01:03:58,119 --> 01:04:03,519
Outrageich police said. Munich police said a spokesman said twenty

986
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:05,880
school children had dared each other to fake attacks to

987
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,679
see whether their parents would believe them after hearing about

988
01:04:08,679 --> 01:04:14,760
a case in the eastern city of Halla. Switzerland's Jewish

989
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,239
community was shocked when a nineteen eighty three rash of

990
01:04:17,239 --> 01:04:20,840
anti Semitic graffiti appeared on walls at local synagogues, the

991
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,559
Jewish cemetery and other buildings, death threats and anonymous telephone

992
01:04:24,599 --> 01:04:27,239
calls to Jewish parents stated that your son has been killed.

993
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:32,079
At the medical school in Basel, Jewish students reported receiving

994
01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:34,760
an anonymous letter saying death to the Jews and no

995
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,639
more Jewish doctors in Switzerland. Swiss police soon had their culprit.

996
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:40,760
But he was not a neo Nazi. He was not

997
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,400
the neo Nazi many had expected. According to news reports,

998
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,719
a twenty three year old Jewish medical student arrested in

999
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,519
Basel was described by police as the perpetrator of the campaign,

1000
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:54,760
a virulent anti Semitic graffiti, harassment and death threats in

1001
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,559
that city last month. The dis disclosure by police that

1002
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,079
Philip Gotchel, kind of a prominent Jewish family, was solely

1003
01:05:02,119 --> 01:05:06,280
responsible for the acts, called unprecedented in Switzerland, stun Jews

1004
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,760
and non Jews alike. The anti Semitic campaign aroused such

1005
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,840
concern the Swiss army units were sent to help local

1006
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:19,760
police protect Jewish students. Apparently obsessed with persecution fantasies. I

1007
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,679
wonder where he got those from. Gotchell claimed that right

1008
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:28,039
wing students had broken into his family's home. Police said

1009
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:30,760
that it was Gotchell himself that broke the window. Gotchall

1010
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:40,119
was placed under psychiatric care. That's it. That's I mean,

1011
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:42,880
that's basically it. There's one more section here I'm going

1012
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:49,320
to read and yeah, so he added this on at

1013
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,360
the end, and I think this was pretty cool. Traits

1014
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:56,079
that suggest commission of a hoax. What if anything, distinguishes

1015
01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:59,440
hoaxes and fabrications from real racist and anti semitic incidents?

1016
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,840
Are their patterns to be on the watch for. What

1017
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,400
are the clues that a hoax might be afoot? Consider these?

1018
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:09,039
One An incident that can't be corroborated with reasonable evidence

1019
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:12,840
or disinterested witnesses, or is accompanied by an account which

1020
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,440
contains inconsistencies, or when the alleged victim suddenly refuses to

1021
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,000
talk to police. Two. An incident that occurs just when

1022
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:23,960
it's needed to promote awareness or sensitivity to racism or

1023
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,719
anti semitisms, to disarmed critics and make them reluctant to

1024
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:34,400
talk back. The conveniently occurring incident should be carefully investigated. Often,

1025
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,480
the perpetrator will confide in others or even brag about

1026
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:43,679
the hoax. Extensive questioning may be necessary repeat incidents, especially

1027
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:48,039
with difficult, resentful, and easily offended individuals who frequently complain

1028
01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:51,559
of disrespect, slights, insult, or harassment. I wonder who he

1029
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:57,000
could be talking about. Incidents directed at specific individuals are unusual.

1030
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,159
Bear in mind, however, that these individuals often create a

1031
01:07:00,199 --> 01:07:04,920
self fulfilling prophecy with their behavior and actually antagonize others

1032
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,079
to the point where they will retaliate in some manner.

1033
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:15,119
Very important four an incident that is particularly skillfully exploited

1034
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:19,480
by the alleged victim to attain victim status, to manipulate institutions,

1035
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,639
to obtain concessions from others, to obtain special privileges, or

1036
01:07:22,639 --> 01:07:26,119
to obtain money. Because of the possibility of civil damages

1037
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:28,440
and hate crime cases, it is likely that hoaxes of

1038
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:33,559
this nature will be increasing. Don't they always incidents which

1039
01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:37,360
occur in improbable circumstances, such as racist graffiti in a

1040
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,760
mostly black dormitory or neighborhood assaults that allegedly occurred in

1041
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,559
normally crowded areas with no witnesses, graffiti or vandalism in

1042
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:48,320
a room occupied only by the victim, and so on.

1043
01:07:48,679 --> 01:07:52,800
Some hoaxes are surprisingly poorly planned. In the case of graffiti,

1044
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,960
carefully drawn symbols or slurs suggests that the author really

1045
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,880
wants to get a point across precisely what is meant

1046
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,880
in the repulsive character the person behind it, and this,

1047
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:06,639
and this suggests a hoax. Most bonified incidents represent impulsive

1048
01:08:06,719 --> 01:08:10,239
striking out not carefully planned. Generally speaking, the more elaborate

1049
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,320
the circumstances, the greater likelihood of a hoax. Another trait

1050
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,560
that suggests a hoax surfaced in several of the cases

1051
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,960
mentioned here. Where authorities suspect a hoax and this fact

1052
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,920
becomes known, the likelihood is enhanced somewhat when local anti

1053
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,159
racist and radical special interest groups to fame and vilified doubters.

1054
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:36,680
In fact, they may suspect it themselves. Finally, several hoaxers

1055
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,680
have reported markings or symbols painted on their bodies by

1056
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,880
their alleged assailants. This rarely occurs in bonafide cases for

1057
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,399
reasons that are not clear. Body markings on the victim

1058
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:49,680
by the alleged perpetrators are apparently a cause for suspicion,

1059
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,920
and nine copycat hoaxes are likely to occur after an

1060
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,680
earlier perhaps bonafied incident has taken place that has aroused

1061
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,600
great publicity. Often some of the same people will be

1062
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,439
involved in the same symbols used. A large number of

1063
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:10,800
similar incidents probably contain some hoaxes. His conclusion, the information

1064
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,079
I have pulled together in this report is, in my opinion,

1065
01:09:13,119 --> 01:09:16,279
merely the tip of the iceberg. The hoaxes I've recounted are,

1066
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:20,560
with a few exceptions, publicly discovered and publicly reported hoaxes.

1067
01:09:21,199 --> 01:09:26,239
Countless more hoaxes undiscovered and unreported have undoubtedly also occurred.

1068
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,239
I see no hard evidence of an organized conspiracy to

1069
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:33,720
commit racial and anti semitic hoaxes. Everything points to individuals

1070
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,920
or small groups of individuals as to perpetrators of the hoaxes.

1071
01:09:37,239 --> 01:09:40,960
The usefulness of hoaxes is sufficiently obvious to potential hoaxers

1072
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,000
that a conspiracy is not required to explain the large

1073
01:09:44,079 --> 01:09:47,359
number of hoaxes or the similarity of some hoaxes. Why

1074
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:51,000
do people commit hoaxes Three main reasons. The first has

1075
01:09:51,039 --> 01:09:53,680
to do with the personal payoff for victimization i e.

1076
01:09:54,119 --> 01:09:58,680
Attention sympathy, a sense of importance, feeding persecution, fantasies, and

1077
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,199
material payoffs. The second has to do with advancing a

1078
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:04,840
political or social agenda, as in the case of hoaxes

1079
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,720
intended to create support for regulations or legislation, or to

1080
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,920
help create a climate sympathetic to specific interest groups. The

1081
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,640
third has to do with interest fraud, with the insurance

1082
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,560
fraud with the racial and anti Semitic element. Almost an afterthought.

1083
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:25,760
Most hoaxes are combinations of the first two types. Carefully done,

1084
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,960
the risk of discovery of a hoax is minimal. Most

1085
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,960
hoaxes simply remain unsolved hate crimes. Those that are discovered

1086
01:10:33,079 --> 01:10:36,159
may not result in criminal action against the hoaxers. When

1087
01:10:36,159 --> 01:10:40,239
criminal charges are filed, they can have wide ranging consequences,

1088
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,399
from long prison terms in some cases to a slap

1089
01:10:43,399 --> 01:10:47,399
on the wrist in others, with most cases tending toward

1090
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:51,039
the latter. What can be done about hoaxes probably very little,

1091
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:54,920
as long as victimization claims are so uncritically accepted and

1092
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:58,600
the payoff for alleged victimization is sufficiently tempting and rewarding.

1093
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:04,840
Crime legislation, although well intentioned, has got to remember he's

1094
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,399
a leftist. Hate crime legislation, although well intentioned, has created

1095
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:11,279
a powerful market for the side benefit of alleged hate crimes.

1096
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,560
When these crimes are not naturally occurring or are not

1097
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,079
occurring in sufficient numbers, a motive to commit hoaxes is created.

1098
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:22,279
Provisions in hate crime legislation for civil damages also creates

1099
01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:26,520
a powerful motive to commit hoaxes. Vigilance in discovering hoaxes

1100
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,840
and apparent and appropriate publicity may discourage some potential hoaxers.

1101
01:11:31,359 --> 01:11:35,800
Punishment for hoaxers equal to bonafide hate crimes, including sentence enhancement,

1102
01:11:36,079 --> 01:11:38,840
would probably have a greater deterrent effect, but would also

1103
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,560
perpetrate the injustices inherent in the hate crime concept itself.

1104
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,079
Probably the most effective thing would be for universities, police agencies,

1105
01:11:48,079 --> 01:11:51,119
in the media to entertain a healthy skepticism about alleged

1106
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:54,399
about hate crimes and to establish a category of not

1107
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,960
proven in cases where no perpetrator is identified or charged.

1108
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,560
Any unsolved case may be a hoax, including those intuitively

1109
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,520
thought to be bona fide. Finally, on a personal note,

1110
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,560
I think it's important to bear in mind that human

1111
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,039
beings are fallible creatures who make mistakes, often not realizing

1112
01:12:11,079 --> 01:12:13,840
the consequences of their actions. The older I get, the

1113
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,840
more forgiving I become, and the more aware I am

1114
01:12:17,039 --> 01:12:21,680
of the harm done by righteous indignation, fanaticism, and vengefulness

1115
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:26,840
in the pursuit of justice. Sorry, buddy, that's just that's human.

1116
01:12:28,079 --> 01:12:30,359
A little slack and a little forgiveness all the way

1117
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:35,119
around wouldn't hurt either. It's going to take. It's going

1118
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:37,600
to take that. If we're all going to get along

1119
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:43,000
in this world, well laired, we're not. That's been proven.

1120
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:49,319
Appreciate you, but appreciate this work. But it's been proven.

1121
01:12:50,279 --> 01:12:54,239
So he's also got if you get this, there's some uh.

1122
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,560
He provides a bunch of uh, well not a bunch,

1123
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:10,920
but a couple correspondences with ADL letter from Jared your Hoover.

1124
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:22,560
Its like the ADL Report. Yeah, but that's it. Another

1125
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:27,520
book in the books hat and we'll see what we're

1126
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:32,319
going to do next. Somebody gave me an idea. It

1127
01:13:32,359 --> 01:13:37,079
would be a project. But we'll see what happens. See

1128
01:13:37,319 --> 01:13:44,199
it depends on somebody else. So we'll see. This had

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1136
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that's it, see you on the next book. Thank you

1137
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,319
so much for tuning in to these. I hope you

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01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:16,600
enjoy them, appreciate it.