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and talk if you start to wonder to yourself, if

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this guy isn't just about the nicest guy you've heard well,

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it's not just you. He probably is. He's a really

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nice guy. Of course, I'm talking about tonight's guest, Aaron

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Nicely Aeron. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hey buddy, thanks for having me on the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for coming on. We appreciate your time. Aaron,

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Please give us a brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm from Alleghany County, Virginia. I'm going to have

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it Elton doorsman. I like to hunt and fish, and

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you go gen sanging, mushroom hunting and just spend a

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lot of time outdoors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you definitely are an avid outdoors When you got

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an early start, your granddad actually taught you just about

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everything you know about the mountains. I'm wondering, though, when

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did he start taking you out and showing you the ropes.

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Speaker 3: When I was four and five years old, my granddaddy

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and daddy to take me out and wait, he'd hunt,

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and my granddad showed me about hunting mushrooms and looking

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for gen saying, and deer hunting, turkey hunting, trout fishing,

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just at an early age.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what a great way to grow up. If more

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kids were brought up that way, the world would be

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a totally different place. Speaking of your granddad, he told

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you about an unusual experience he had in Clifton Forge, Virginia.

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What happened to him?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was actually my dad. He had an experience

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here in Clifton Forge. It was he was hunting and

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he was telling me. He said that he had this

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thing come up over the ridge on him one time,

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and he was watching it when it got up to

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the top of it, he said it saw him and

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retched out and grabbed a tree it was at almost

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like a pole, and spun around and he went down

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the side of the mountain. But he said it looked

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like a little chimpanzee. And just like me, he's spent

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a lot of time out in the woods and on

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the mountains. And if he says it was something that,

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you know, it wasn't supposed to be, I'm inclined to

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believe him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why you would after seeing that

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that day. Was he a card carrying believer in sasquatch

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or did he still not to understand what he had seen.

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Speaker 3: He just told me he never really knew what it was.

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They didn't understand what it was that day, and looked

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like a little monkey to hing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it did.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: It's ashamed that he didn't come to Grips as well.

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Was down the road, or maybe he didn't just didn't

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want to tell you. It's hard to say. Did your

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dad or granddad ever tell you anything about dog men?

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Speaker 3: Now, my granddad and my dad never told me anything

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about dog man. And really, you know, there was not

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a lot of people around here that I've ever heard

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say they seen one. And you know, just with the

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experience that I had, it was there's far fetched to him, really,

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I believe.

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course it was far fetched. I mean, after all,

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there's no way that anything like that could be out

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there if they haven't seen one, right, absolutely, yeah, we

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know the truth on that. I don't fault them. I mean,

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when you spend years upon years, your whole life out

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in the woods, hunting, fishing, hiking, do whatever, camping and

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you don't see one of these guys, it's all too

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easy to think that, Okay, I've spent so much time

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out here that if they were out here, I would

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have seen one. But that's just not how it is.

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It really isn't.

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Speaker 3: Like me and you were talking the woods and mountains

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around here. It's just a vast place. There's no way

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that anybody can see everything, and there is.

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Speaker 1: To say in them.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely anything could be out there, Aaron, From

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what I understand, when you were growing up, we're wolves.

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We're your favorite movie monster?

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Speaker 1: Why? So? Absolutely? I just loved them.

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Speaker 3: It was I just watched werewolf movies and Silver Bullet

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and everything come out as just a it hit home.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. It was just my favorite monster growing up.

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Speaker 2: I understand you've got really good teaste. Speaking of good taste,

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let's just get to it now. Go ahead and announce

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what the best werewolf movie of all time is. Dog Soldiers,

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let's do that again. Go ahead and tell us what

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the best werewolf movie of all time is. I'm just

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messing with you. When I have guests, come on, we

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talk about werewolf movies. I'm always touting how Bad Moons

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the best werewolf movie, which I think it is. But yeah,

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there are tons of other werewolf movies out there, like

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what you mentioned, that are really good. So that's just

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one man's opinion.

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Speaker 1: I'll have to check that out for sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you haven't seen it yet.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen that.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, you need to watch that. If you do,

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you just might change your mind on what's the best one.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, I believe it might.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good possibility of that. You were a

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turkey hunting when you had your encounter. Had you been

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doing much in the way of turkey hunting before that?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: My dad makes turkey calls and I use his, and

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ever since I was little, I just fell in love

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with it, just being able to, you know, call something

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and get it to come, tell you a trick it.

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Speaker 1: And they're smart.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to trick them really around here, so sometimes

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they don't even answer your calls. But yeah, I've done

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a great deal of turkey hunting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so smart as hard to trick them anywhere.

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Of course, I don't hunt them, but I've heard a

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lot of people talk about how difficult it is to

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effectively hunt them. So I can only imagine what kind

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of rifle did you have in your hands that day?

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Speaker 3: I had a Marlin twenty two magnum. There was a

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Marlin Model twenty five m and I had a Barska

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three to nine scope on it.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you were really undergun for anything like dog

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men but of course when you head into the woods,

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you weren't going out with the intent of trying to

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take one down, So that's understandable.

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Speaker 3: Right, Absolutely, it was the last thing on my mind

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that I was going to see anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, of course, you never expect to see one until

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you do. You were close to a national forest when

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that encounter happened. Which National forest was it? And just

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how close were you to it?

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Speaker 3: Well, just at a Iron Gate, Virginia's place called Cliff

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or Glenn Wilton, Virginia, and it's off two twenty. It's

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an interstate run there, and you go about two three

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miles back and you come to a bridge I guess

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it would be I don't know if that's George Washington

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National Forest or not back in there, but in Glenn Wilton, Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Wow, You've got so many good forests around there that

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you can pretty much take your pick and where you

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go when you do things like Turkey Hunter, you name it.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful here, man, it's a it's a hunter's paradise. Really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been to Virginia and I couldn't agree more

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with what you said. It really is beautiful. How much

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is your encounter changed your interest in heading back into

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the wood cell.

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm be honest with you, I've been hunting a

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whole lot more since then, and uh, with my encounter

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not being like most of the other people's encounters being bad,

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I haven't had a problem going back in there. But

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I do often wonder if I'm ever gonna run into

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him again. I think about it when it's dark in

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the morning and you hit me in with little four ashlight,

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what you're gonna bump into?

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Speaker 2: Oh sure you haven't encounter with something like that. It's

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only natural that you're going to wonder if you're going

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to have a second encounter. So yeah, that's totally normal.

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All right, dearon, please tell us about your encounter, now,

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give us every last detail that comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Sure. Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Like we were talking about a turkey hunt and I

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hunt a lot, and we were talking about Glenn Whilton, Virginia,

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and I like the turkey hunt back there, and I

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was heading into Glen Wilton one day. You go across

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this bridge and there's a sort of train tracks there,

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and you go across the train tracks and you go

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right or left, And I decided I was gonna go left.

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And down the roadways there's a power line. And I

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don't know how a lot of other people turkey hunt,

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but when I go into the woods after a turkey,

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I like to hear a turkey. And I'll hit my

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call different places and try and hear one gobble and

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he's on up on him and sit down and hit

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the call again, try and get him come to me.

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Speaker 1: And I'd stopped road up there.

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Speaker 3: It was a big long power line there, and I

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just wanted to see if I could hear a bird.

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And when I got out of the truck, I had

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my turkey call there. I had my rifle over my

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back and I hit the call a couple of times

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and I didn't hear nothing. I didn't hear no turkey's

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gobble or really anything going on. But that's normal every

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now and then you might hit the call and you

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won't get on one right away. You might have to

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hit it a couple of times or move around and

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find one. And about the second or third time I

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hit to call, this big black thing come out up

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in the power line, about two hundred yards up in it,

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and it looked like a black beard me And you know,

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I'm getting excited I was like, you know, that's pretty cool.

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I called in a black bear to my turkey call.

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I was like, that's the first time for ed. I

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was like, but I know predators will come looking for

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easy prey on turkeys. They might hear it and come

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in thinking they might get a quick meal. And I

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was like, well, I call it in a black bear.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: And I got my hands out in front of me.

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It's this little it's like a disc that I'm holding

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on a striker so I don't have to move a

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lot to strike it. And I strike it again. What

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stands up? And I'm thinking, I was like, I've never

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seen a black bear stand up. I was like, it's awesome.

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like left and right, like he's looking down that power

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line for a turkey. And I pull Like we were

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talking about the rifle that I had. I carry a

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rifle with scope. I wanted to get a better luck,

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not to harm the bear or anything, but just to

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look at him. And when I moved a gun off

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my shoulder and up, he must have seen me, and

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he dropped back down to all fours. And when I'm

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looking at him through his scope. It's it's not a

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black bear. It's a it's a black wolf like animal

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you know, this isn't a bear. I was like, but

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he was standing up, and he's moving from right to

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left across this power line. It's probably fifty yards wide,

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look at him was through a scope as he was moving,

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and I'm thinking, I was like, you know, was this

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somebody's was this somebody's dog or is this an animal?

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And growing up, like we were talking about my granddaddy

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and my daddy teaching me hunt, I don't shoot it

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nothing I'm not sure of. And it was definitely something

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that I was unsure of, and just it was like

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shock and awe. It wasn't anything scary that he did

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to me, like menacing or that he stalked me out

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of the woods, but just you know, seeing something that's

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as big as that was standing up and then it

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turned out to not be a bear, it blew my mind.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm sure it did. I don't doubt that at all.

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You obviously had that rifle with you, but did you

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have a backup weapon?

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Speaker 3: Now, I didn't have any backup weapon, just a twenty

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two magnum And honestly, like we were talking about it,

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I wasn't trying to shoot at it, really, I was

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not sure of what I was like. It was just

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crazy to think that this was a bear all in

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my head all this time until it drops down and

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I'm looking at it through the scope and it's a canine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can only imagine I thought was going through

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your head when you were seeing all that play out.

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You had to be mind blown about that. Did you

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think that you'd call it in a black beard due

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to the sheer mass of the creature or body parts

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that you saw on it at first?

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Speaker 1: The mass of it and the it was solid black.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable due to the slope of the ground

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between you and it. Were you above it or was

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it above you?

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Speaker 1: It was above me looking up the powerline.

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Speaker 2: Did it ever put its muzzle in the air and

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try to wind you or did it just keep its

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head down the whole time for the most part, other

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than standing up onto its back legs.

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Speaker 1: Before I looked through the scope. Was when I believe

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that it was looking around for that turkey, and because

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when he was bobbing left or right, I believe that

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he was looking down through that power line trying to

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spot a hen that hend he was here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that just might be what was going on. Some

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eyewitnesses report when they see a dog man moving in

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the area when they are eyes on that some dog

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men look smooth in their movements and well balanced. Other

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people report that the dogman they saw look twitchy and

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off balance, almost like they're walking on high heels. Well,

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the twitchiness is kind of like a tweaker and the

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off balance movements basically, it's what you would expect to

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see if someone if a woman's trying to walk in

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really high heels who doesn't know how to walk in

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them very well.

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Speaker 1: Did you see something was agile?

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Speaker 2: It was agile.

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Speaker 3: He was moving smooth through He like he'd been there

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a thousand times. There was nothing clumsy about him. They

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stood up and others than bob and left or right,

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there was no He wasn't shaken or stumbling. And when

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he hit all fours, it was just like watching a

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wolf flok.

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Speaker 2: Did he make much noise when he was getting out

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of the area.

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Speaker 3: I never heard anything out of him. I never even

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heard him coming in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part for the course. Did all the ambient

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noise stop when he came into the area, Well.

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Speaker 3: Like I was telling you when I was calling, I

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didn't hear anything that morning, so it was super quiet.

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I didn't really hear any birds or any turkeys clucking

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or gobbling or craze. And it didn't make any noise itself.

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It never let out a howl or any kind of

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grunts or grains.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, sometimes they don't. Sometimes it seems like they

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just appear. And that's all there is to it. Before

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I move on, everybody listening, if you have any questions

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you'd like for me to ask Aaron, please type them

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in all caps. If you're in the live chat, that is,

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please type your question in all caps so I don't

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miss it. That'll make it real easy for me to

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see erin. You mentioned the fact that it had a

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very long muzzle. How long would you say it.

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Speaker 1: Was longer than a German shepherd's but under a foot

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I'd say it was about nine inches.

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Speaker 2: That is pretty long due to the size of his head.

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Did that muscle seem to be disproportionately long still or

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fit size wise.

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Speaker 3: Size wise, it seemed about fit to the animal. It

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was very large. It was a large animal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, if you're that big, then if you have

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a long muscle of long ears, it can still look proportional.

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So that does make sense. Did you get the impression

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that it moved off away from you because it was

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upset about you seeing it, or you being in the area,

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or for some other reason.

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Speaker 3: Most definitely when when I moved at rifle and it

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seen me move, it was heading on out of the area.

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Speaker 1: Did not. I don't believe they're ignorant.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it knows, just like the animals around here

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know what a hunter is and what to go around,

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what not to go around. It's just I'm sure we

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were both shocked.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was shocked. I think it knew

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that you were there before you did. But I could

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definitely understand what you would be. Yeah, almost anyone would

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be seeing something like that, definitely. Well, let's get to

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some of the questions now. The first one on deck

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is from Jamie and Jimmy wants to know what color

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eyes did it have.

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Speaker 1: Looking through that scope? I couldn't really, I couldn't really

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see entail. I want to say yellow if I said

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anything at all, I'd say yellow is what it looked like.

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Just that was the only thing that really stood out

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other than the teeth on the face. From how dark

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it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a commonly reported color for their eyes, so

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that fits. Al Santariga. Al, He's got a question for you.

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He wants to know how tall it was.

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Speaker 1: I'd say at the very least six foot tall, because

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that's about how big the barrel are around here. It

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could have been between six and eight feet tall, is

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what I'm guessing. It was a very large animal.

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Speaker 2: Since you two weren't level on a level grade, it

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would be really hard to ESTI meat accurately. So yeah,

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I mean, all you can do is guess in the

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situation like that. So I get it.

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: The next one up is from Tiffany Harding. He tiff

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Tiff wants to know did it look like it had

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thick hair?

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Speaker 1: It had black hair like a wolf would have. It was.

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It wasn't like it was overwhelmingly long or thick. It was.

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Speaker 3: If you look at a timberwolf or charyte or a

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German shepherd, the way that the hair flows down it.

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It had hair similar to that. It had thicker hair

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on its tail. Mainly, it seemed to me than anywhere.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because Ian Conzell wants to know,

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did you see it? Tell?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? And that's what let me know that it wasn't

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a black bear. That I was seeing something that was

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not a black bear. And once I got up towards

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the face, it was Canaine. It was way longer than

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any of the bears that I've seen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it didn't take long for you to

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decide that it's definitely not a black bear after you

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see those features. Did its ears sit on top of

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its head or on the sides of its head?

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Speaker 1: They pointed up like a German shepherd's ears would look.

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Speaker 2: But were they mounted up on top or some of

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them actually have them almost down on the sides where

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a human would have them.

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Speaker 3: It was up top, like if they would point it up,

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it would go straight up.

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Speaker 1: It had to. I could see the tips up its

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ears through the scope.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I see how tall would you guess that they were?

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Speaker 1: They come off ahead, probably three or four inches, about

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the size of a bear's ears or a wolf's ears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's fairly tall, that is. Alicie Antarigo wants

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to know how much you think it weighed.

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Speaker 3: I have no way of guessing how much you weighed.

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It was over one hundred pounds, over two hundred pounds.

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I thought it was a larger black bear that had

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come in.

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I'm sure that was probably the last thing

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on your mind trying to guess it's weighed at the

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time I've mentioned Oh, definitely. Yeah, that's human nature to

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not even think about something like that when I've been

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a guest on other people's shows. I've mentioned this before.

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There's a scientific principle called square cube law, and square

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cube law states that if you double the size of

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an object and keep that object's proportions the same, then

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the weight of that object will multiply by a factor

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of eight. And if you have any doubts about that

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that scientific law, here's a good way to break it down.

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If you take a cube that's one foot by one

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foot by one foot, and that cube weighs one hundred

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pounds because it's made out of something with that kind

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of density, Well, if you increase the size of that

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cube to two feet by two feet by two feet

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to do to make a structure that size out of

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those one foot by one foot by one foot blocks.

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Let's break it down. You'd have one foot by one

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foot cube side by side. You'd have two of those

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cubes stacked on top of the bottom two. That's a

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total of four. And then you would have an identical

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stack right behind that stack of four. So you'd have

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eight of those blocks that are one foot by one

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foot by one foot to make a two foot by

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two foot by two foot structure. So when it comes

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to sas squatch dog men, if these guys had the

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same proportions that a human had, which they don't. They're

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more robust in most cases by quite a bit. But

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if they did have the same proportions. If you took

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a six foot man, for example, and had that six

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foot man increased in size up to twelve feet and

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kept all the proportions the same, as hard to believe

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as it might be. If his proportions were kept the same,

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now you're dealing with a man that weighs sixteen hundred pounds.

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So yeah, just something to think when people see sasquatch

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and dog men, I realize it can be really hard

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to estimate their weights, but in most cases people grossly

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underestimate their weights, as I just laid out by sharing

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that scientific principle with you. The next question on deck

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is from mister Nielsy and mister Neilsy wants to know

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did you notice in the unusual smell?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't smell anything. It didn't have any odors

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or anything in the air.

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Speaker 2: Also, too, you're far enough away from it where unless

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the wind was really blowing in your direction in your favor,

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you wouldn't have smelled it anyway. Absolutely, yeah, definitely. This

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next one up is from Michigan meat eater. I'm glad

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to hear he's doing better. I guess he was sick

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for a while there. Michigan meat eater wants to know

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how quickly did it cover the fifty or so yards

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of the open power lines.

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Speaker 1: When it hit back down to all fours.

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Speaker 3: It was a matter of seconds before it was across

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the power line and gone.

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Speaker 2: When they want to move, they definitely can. They can

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move with a purpose.

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Speaker 1: It was covered from ground.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, I believe it. This next one up is

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from Scott Langhorst and Scott wants to know did it

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have a mean like a lion?

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Speaker 1: It did not.

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Speaker 3: It was very wolf like in features, just just large.

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Speaker 2: Well, some do, some don't, so that fits. The next

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one on deck is from Casey Rich thirteen and Casey

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wants to know did you see its legs? If yes,

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what did they look like?

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Speaker 3: They were long and like canine legs. They were proportionate to.

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Speaker 2: A wolf for a dog, so it's definitely a canine type.

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Then that solves that. Next question is from Glenn Kamada. Hey, Glenn,

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Glenn wants to know. Well, I guess that's the same

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question there. You wanted to know if it had dog

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like legs, So we can move past that one. Yeah,

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sounds like it did. The next one up is from

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00:26:45,519 --> 00:26:49,359
EUC Houston and EUC wants to know was it panting

477
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,640
like a dog or a wolf?

478
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: Yes, through the scope.

479
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,799
Speaker 3: When it was crossing back towards the power line and

480
00:26:55,839 --> 00:26:58,200
I was looking at it, it had its mouth open

481
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,240
and I believe it was painting. It did walk with

482
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:02,119
its mouth open.

483
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it must have been moving fast for even saw it,

484
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,920
so that would explain that. D Truth wants to know

485
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:12,599
what would you guess on weight and height. I guess

486
00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,079
we already covered that, but they well, I guess he

487
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,519
wants to know about eye color. That's something you covered

488
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:20,039
as well, so we can move past that as well.

489
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,759
This next one is from an console and An wants

490
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:25,680
to know if you saw its teeth.

491
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:27,799
Speaker 1: Yes, I did.

492
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,279
Speaker 3: It had teeth that it had teeth like Canlin's longer

493
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,400
white teeth it had.

494
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: It was very similar to dog teeth.

495
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: When you saw those teeth, I can only imagine the

496
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,480
thoughts going through your head.

497
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: All right, I knew it had some teeth on it

498
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:45,839
for sure.

499
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't doubt that. Were you able to see

500
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,039
the teeth clearly enough to tell if its teeth were

501
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:55,319
different from dog teeth in that in a dog's mouth,

502
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,359
not every tooth is really sharp.

503
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I didn't say everyone, but as I was scanning

504
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,960
up and down this animal, when I was saying that

505
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,359
its mouth was open and seeing its muzzle and.

506
00:28:09,319 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 1: It had teeth in its mouth, Oh, I'm.

507
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,319
Speaker 2: Sure it did. Yeah, it's like a staple for these guys.

508
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,200
The next one on deck is from Stella. Stella wants

509
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,319
to know, and this is kind of a question that's

510
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:24,759
been asked, but maybe not in this way or this angle.

511
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,920
She wants to know, did it seem like it was

512
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,640
on a mission, as if it was very focused?

513
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,559
Speaker 3: Yes, I did. It came in looking at I believe

514
00:28:34,559 --> 00:28:36,920
it was hunting. I believe it heard the turkey column

515
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,359
was coming in and looking for something to eat. When

516
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,319
it stood up and was bob and left and right

517
00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:44,400
and looking down that power line, it was focused on

518
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,880
some it was looking for that bird.

519
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, I don't need to tell you. I'm sure you

520
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:52,160
know that grizzlies in a lot of places when they

521
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240
hear a rifle shot, they'll come running looking for a

522
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:57,920
free meal. So that might be what was going on there.

523
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400
Maybe he knew that you were hunting in he was

524
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,160
trying to be opportunistic about it.

525
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have been trying to slip in and

526
00:29:05,759 --> 00:29:07,960
get behind a bird that was coming I didn't know about.

527
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: Maybe he was going to get the bird.

528
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you did, you the bird anywhere near, It's

529
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:14,400
not like you're going to be able to take it away.

530
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,839
Speaker 1: From him, So he could have had it.

531
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure he knew that too, So I don't

532
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:25,440
doubt that at all. This next one's from Christy. Christy

533
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,519
wants to know did it cause you to have nightmares

534
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:29,920
and how long did they last?

535
00:29:31,559 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: Now, I've never had a nightmare about it. I've often

536
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:39,559
thought about it if I was ever going to run

537
00:29:39,599 --> 00:29:42,400
into it again or say something like it.

538
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: And other than that, now, I haven't had any nightmares

539
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,839
or fears of it.

540
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: Because of how they look in their demeanor, it's all

541
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,039
too easy to think that these guys are always really

542
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,720
intense and they're going to act in a really nasty

543
00:29:59,759 --> 00:30:02,279
way when you have an encounter with one. But yeah,

544
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:05,599
that's not always the keys. As you found out firsthand,

545
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,839
sometimes people have encounters that are almost benign, and thank

546
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,240
goodness for that. Thank goodness, they're not always all bad.

547
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,799
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it was a it was a very calm,

548
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,079
quick encounter that I had. He did like I said,

549
00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:24,279
He didn't come after me. He wasn't snarled up at

550
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:28,079
me and making noises or mock charging like a bear wood.

551
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,720
He come out and stood up and was looking around

552
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,839
trying to find something. When I moved and pulled my

553
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,240
gun up to look and see what I was seeing,

554
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,839
he dropped down on all fours and that's when I

555
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,240
seen that this was a canine that had a long

556
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,400
black bushy tail and was walking on all wars, had

557
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,839
a long muzzle and he's doing he's gone out and

558
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,680
away from me. He didn't come down towards me. And

559
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:55,799
in a way like me and you was talking about

560
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,599
it was almost like, hey, you didn't shoot at me.

561
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,519
Speaker 1: You did and harm me. It's like I'm not gonna

562
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,440
bother you. It's like we're both just here.

563
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have to have an encounter, that's the

564
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,599
best kind to have, definitely, And I'm so glad, like

565
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000
I've told you before, that this didn't affect you in

566
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,119
a negative way. With that in mind, though, does that

567
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,279
mean that you didn't start carrying a backup weapon into

568
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:20,920
the woods with you whenever you would go.

569
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,519
Speaker 3: I used to, honestly a lot, and it was just

570
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:26,799
a wonder that I didn't that day with turkeys. I

571
00:31:26,839 --> 00:31:28,880
didn't really have anything in my mind that I was

572
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,160
gonna need backed up. But a lot of the time

573
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,200
I'm carrying a Smith and Wesson Model nineteen three fifty

574
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:39,279
seven magnum or nineteen eleven forty five ACP is a

575
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:43,000
backup gun, and I carry a buck light pocket knife.

576
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,759
But since thenna, you know, really, if I seen him again,

577
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:50,839
I wouldn't shoot at him if he wasn't bothering me.

578
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,799
I just I didn't feel threatened by it at all.

579
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad you know better than to shoot at one,

580
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,599
especially with the twenty two mag Yeah, that wouldn't be

581
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,680
a good, say situation at all. It really wouldn't. After

582
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160
you had the experience, did you take it upon yourself

583
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,880
to try to warn everyone that you knew about what

584
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,359
you saw.

585
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: I told family members and friends about my encounter, and

586
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,200
you know, you get mixed things. So it's like some

587
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,240
people are like, wow, you really seen that, and I'm

588
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,359
like yeah, and then some people are skeptical. You'll get

589
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,279
snickers and laughs, and like I was telling you, you know,

590
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480
I'm even willing to come on here on the show

591
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,839
and risk my credibility as a hunter as how serious

592
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,640
I seen this. I would take a polygraph test. There's

593
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,640
no doubt in my mind.

594
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,039
Speaker 1: I seen a bipedal black wolf in Glenn Wilton, Virginia.

595
00:32:42,039 --> 00:32:44,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Once you saw it stand up and especially saw

596
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,440
that long bushy tail, Yeah, that removed all doubt that

597
00:32:47,839 --> 00:32:53,440
it wasn't a black bear because they don't come that way. Definitely. Well,

598
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,160
this next question for you from the live chats from

599
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,359
d Truth. He wants to know how far was it

600
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,720
from you.

601
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: I'd estimate about two hundred two hundred and fifty yards,

602
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
And when I looked at it through the scope, I

603
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,279
was using a three to nine BARSCA and I had

604
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:13,759
it set on six powers, so it just seemed right

605
00:33:13,759 --> 00:33:14,039
in on.

606
00:33:14,119 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: And I'm sure a big part of why you handled

607
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,119
this experience so well not only dealt with the fact

608
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:24,440
that it left the area it absconded when it saw you,

609
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:26,359
but or when it looked at you. I'm sure it

610
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,640
already had seen you, but the fact that it was

611
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,680
so far away. I just wonder if it was fifty

612
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,079
feet from you, how much different this would be.

613
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: Man, You know, I have thought about that. Maybe it

614
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,400
would have been a scarier experience for me. Maybe even

615
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,359
if it didn't charge. It was a big old animal,

616
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,319
and especially like me and you were talking about seeing

617
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:55,000
thing that's unusual or abnormal, it's hard to say, really

618
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:56,839
how if it was closer, how it or went it.

619
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one thing to have an experience it two

620
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,799
hundred plus yards with one of these guys, but at

621
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:05,920
close range that changes everything, it really does.

622
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:08,599
Speaker 1: You had to be right up on top of something

623
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,280
like that, it puts you in a bind, Like you

624
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,519
were saying, with your experience, it would make you feel

625
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:14,960
right alone.

626
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,519
Speaker 2: It would you mine was with a sasquatch though, but

627
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:23,280
it makes you feel awfully lonely. It definitely does. You

628
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,159
told your wife about your experience? How did that go?

629
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? I told my girlfriend and she was She was

630
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:33,000
supportive of me. She believes me.

631
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: She was very proud of me for coming on the

632
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,800
podcast night and talking and sharing my story with everybody.

633
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,039
She's been very supportive of it. Every now and then

634
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,039
she'll give me a hard time, tell me, maybe he

635
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,079
might be following me around. I might bump into him again.

636
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Oh I know.

637
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: That's not right. But it sounds like she's a keeper though.

638
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,679
Speaker 1: I really like that, the fact that, yeah, she's real

639
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:56,920
supportive of everything I do.

640
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: That's great. That's how it should be. You've got another

641
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:04,159
family member's actually listening in tonight. Who is it?

642
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:09,199
Speaker 3: I got a little girl listening to the show, and

643
00:35:09,519 --> 00:35:11,159
I was real proud to have her listening.

644
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: Tell me come on here tonight.

645
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:16,159
Speaker 2: That's great. What are her thoughts on all this? Does

646
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:18,679
she believe your wholehearted lee or is she.

647
00:35:18,679 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: Not sure, she's five.

648
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's great. She's getting an early start, that's for sure.

649
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:28,920
Did you have any misgivings telling her about what happened

650
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880
to you, being afraid of how it might negatively affect her?

651
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: Well, rightfully, I've never sat down and just told her

652
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,239
about it. My mom and daddy are tuning into the

653
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,800
show and they said they'd have her. They're listening, so

654
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,320
it is probably her first time ever getting to listen

655
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,000
to the story.

656
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:51,159
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, Well, no one would know better than

657
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:54,199
you if she's ready to know about these guys. So yeah,

658
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:55,880
I've got all the faith in the world in you

659
00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,519
that you're making the right decision. This next question is

660
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:03,639
from wall to her Cockubinski and Walter wants to know

661
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,280
did you see the dog man take steps or did

662
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,960
it glide?

663
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 3: It didn't glide. It took strides like a dog. When

664
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,039
it hit all fours. I never seen it take a

665
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:17,559
two legged step. It stood on its back legs and

666
00:36:17,639 --> 00:36:21,519
rocked left to right looking down through the power line.

667
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,760
Or when it hit all fours it did take steps,

668
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:25,280
it stridded like a dog.

669
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,599
Speaker 2: I think the reason why Walter wanted to know about

670
00:36:28,639 --> 00:36:31,800
that is a lot of Sasquatch. All witnesses report seeing

671
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,840
them glide. It's not like they're taking steps. It's almost

672
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,840
like they're just gliding like a cross country skier or something.

673
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Christy's got the next question for you. She wants to know,

674
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:43,639
did a make a sound?

675
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 3: Never heard any sounds. I didn't hear it at a

676
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:54,039
hal or bark or growl or anything. And really it

677
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,360
didn't make any sounds when it was moving on the ground,

678
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,880
I couldn't. It was very very agile animal.

679
00:37:01,159 --> 00:37:05,199
Speaker 2: I see. Well, this next question, I guess we haven't

680
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,440
really gone over this. You mentioned about the thickness of

681
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,519
the coat. You weren't all that sure that it had

682
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:13,679
a dense coat or anything. But Glenn Kamando wants to

683
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,039
know was it well groomed.

684
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: I could tell it wasn't manged.

685
00:37:18,639 --> 00:37:23,039
Speaker 3: It didn't have any missing patches of higher, very healthy

686
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:23,599
coat on it.

687
00:37:24,599 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: That's one of the many funny things about these guys.

688
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,039
Some of them looked like they had just left a

689
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:33,559
beauty parlor, their furs perfect and perfect condition. But when

690
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,280
you make a living the way they do, sure it

691
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,519
makes you wonder how that could be.

692
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:38,199
Speaker 1: Right.

693
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,639
Speaker 3: To be in the woods the entire time you see

694
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:43,599
bears missing patches of fur where they're rubbing trees and

695
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:46,880
scratching their back, or mange as you got into foxes

696
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,000
or coties around here and missing patches of higher out

697
00:37:51,039 --> 00:37:52,880
of them or bald tails.

698
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: Oh sure, and you're gonna have leaves and all that

699
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,119
other kind of stuff in your fur too, because you

700
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,000
lay down when sleep out there, and that's what's going

701
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:04,239
to happen. So yeah, it's just really hard to wrap

702
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,679
your mind around it, really is. This next question for

703
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,760
you is from d Truth, and D wants to know

704
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,559
has the encounter stopped you from going back, which you

705
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:15,000
said that it hasn't you still go back all the time.

706
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,159
He wants to know, if so, do you plan on

707
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,280
taking more than a twenty two, which you answered that

708
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,639
as well, so we can move on to the next question.

709
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,880
This next one is from Andres Carizalez. He wants to

710
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,000
know did you notice certain times of the year you

711
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,280
went hunting that the area was dead?

712
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:35,039
Speaker 1: I E.

713
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:36,119
Speaker 2: No game.

714
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: Now, I've never been through here. It's it's pretty thick

715
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,840
with game through there. It's one of my favorite spots

716
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,480
to go. It's it's just like a haven for turkeys

717
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:51,199
and deer, so usually when I go back through there,

718
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,000
I'm finding turkey and deer. I found some dead animals

719
00:38:55,039 --> 00:38:58,639
back through there, but not that it was dead and

720
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,320
didn't see any game well too.

721
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many resources in those Virginia Mountains

722
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,599
that unless they spend a lot of time in one

723
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:11,559
particular area, you're not going to deplete the resources there.

724
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,960
So that would make sense, it would. Isaac Molett wants

725
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,360
to know can you express more on how you felt

726
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,400
realizing it wasn't a bear? Did you feel anything supernatural?

727
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,239
Would you like to see it again?

728
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,039
Speaker 3: When I seen it hit the ground and I seen

729
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,119
it had a tail on it, it blew my mind. I

730
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,039
was shocked at what I was saying. And really it

731
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:39,360
was just you know, going through my head, It's like, well,

732
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,519
what is this? And it's like why why was it

733
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:47,800
standing up? Just from going in your brain thinking that

734
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,280
you're seeing something else and then immediately realizing that you're

735
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,239
seeing something totally opposite of what you were playing to

736
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,159
look at it threw me off. As far as supernatural.

737
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,440
I didn't any kind of ghost vibes or other worldly

738
00:40:03,559 --> 00:40:06,400
vibes from it. And yeah, I was talking to him,

739
00:40:06,679 --> 00:40:09,599
I would like to see it again. I asked if

740
00:40:09,639 --> 00:40:12,559
other people that had seen it had encountered it more

741
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:17,880
than once. And it was just a pleasant experience really,

742
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,159
to be able to encounter something like that and not

743
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:22,519
have a negative experience with it and be able to

744
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:23,920
talk to other people about it.

745
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Well, it goes without saying thank goodness it was a

746
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,960
positive experience for you, because yeah, it can be a

747
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,519
lot worse than that, definitely, And if you have another encounter,

748
00:40:33,559 --> 00:40:36,639
I hope it's the same way I really do. This

749
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,199
next one is for Michigan meat eater, and he wants

750
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,360
to know a lot of people describe having the dogman,

751
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,440
that is, having too many teeth for their mouth. Did

752
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,440
this seem to be the case or No?

753
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: No, it was very proportionate. Now, there was nothing that

754
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:58,199
seemed like there was too many of them. The main

755
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,480
thing I seen hanging out were the cane ends up

756
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,639
topping the canines on the bottom through the scope.

757
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: Some dogmen have teeth like that where it seems like

758
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,480
their crowd didn't. There's not enough room in their mouth

759
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:13,440
for them. Other dogmen don't. So there's no rhyme nor

760
00:41:13,519 --> 00:41:17,400
reason on that casey Rich thirteen wants to know where

761
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,679
the four legs, i e. The arms and paws hands

762
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,800
like a dog's or a human's.

763
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 3: Where it had hit all fours and was walking across

764
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,880
this power line. I couldn't see its hands or palls.

765
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,320
I couldn't answer that question. It's four arms and hind

766
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:37,199
legs were very much of a dog, so they didn't

767
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,559
they didn't seem to be human like. But you know,

768
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:43,880
I guess they could totally change the game. If you

769
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,639
could see its hands.

770
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would change the game. And I realized you're

771
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360
looking at through a three by nine scope. But it

772
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,880
was a three by nine scope, and it was at

773
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:57,960
a greater range than two hundred yards, so you're only

774
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,880
going to be able to take in so many details.

775
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,039
I think you should be commended for all the details

776
00:42:02,079 --> 00:42:05,400
you noticed about this thing, because most people wouldn't have.

777
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: Like I said, I was trying to break it down

778
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:11,800
in my mind of what I was saying. I had

779
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,039
scope fixed on it and was watching it move and

780
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,559
I'm trying to, you know, come in my head as

781
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:19,119
like is this a.

782
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: Dog or is this a wolf?

783
00:42:20,639 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 3: H this is a very big dog or a very

784
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,960
big wolf, and we don't have wolves around here. We

785
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,639
have coyotes, and it was way larger than any of

786
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:34,800
the sixty seventy pound coyotes that you might come into

787
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,760
around here. And that's a large coyote. If it's seventy pounds.

788
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a big one. That would where

789
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,519
you could do like this one guy I talked with

790
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,760
who told me had a two hundred pound Koi dog,

791
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:51,440
a pet Koi dog, a two hundred pounder. I thought

792
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:57,800
that was pretty funny, but anyway, that is crazy. This

793
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,000
next one is from al Siontigo. Al wants to know

794
00:43:01,039 --> 00:43:03,599
if you noticed if it had one row or two

795
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:04,599
rows of teeth.

796
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,639
Speaker 1: No, I didn't notice like the other teeth questions. I

797
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:12,239
could really only notice the cane ians hanging down a

798
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,679
little bit.

799
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I mean at that range, with

800
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,480
all the things going through your mind, I think you

801
00:43:18,519 --> 00:43:21,239
should be really commended for all the details you did

802
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,079
notice because most people wouldn't have picked up on half

803
00:43:24,119 --> 00:43:26,960
as many details as you did, so you did a

804
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,199
really good job. This next oh, you're welcome. This next

805
00:43:32,199 --> 00:43:36,639
one up is from Guseppa wiccy i e. Goth farmer.

806
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,480
They want to know do you think it could win

807
00:43:38,519 --> 00:43:39,760
a fight with a crocodile.

808
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 3: I do not think it could win a fight with

809
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,559
a crocodile. I think a crocodile is a two ton

810
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:50,719
apex predator with the strongest bite force on the planet,

811
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,920
and I think it would probably drag it into the water.

812
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really a tough question to ask or to answer.

813
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: Crocodiles are moms on.

814
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they can be awfully big, but a big dog,

815
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:07,320
being a twelve footer could be the same weight or

816
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,480
maybe possibly more.

817
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 3: I would pay all the money I had in my

818
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,079
pocket to find out.

819
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: You would, so, if you had your druthers, you would

820
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,079
like to have an accounter with a twelve footer.

821
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying if I could see a dog might

822
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,800
hand fight a crocodile, that would probably I would give

823
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,679
all the money in my pocket to see that one.

824
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I see, I see what you're saying. Yeah, that

825
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,119
would be interesting to see it definitely would saying what

826
00:44:35,199 --> 00:44:37,800
a question? Yeah, well, I think it ended a lot

827
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,039
quicker than what you would think with the power of

828
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,760
these things have, especially a big one. This next question

829
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,920
is from Beatrice Ward, and Beatrice wants to know if

830
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,199
it smiled.

831
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: That had its mouth open. I wouldn't say that it

832
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,800
was smiling. It was more like a pant as it

833
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,400
was moving across the power line.

834
00:44:56,559 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: All right, that answer is that. And then don huff

835
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,880
as a comment, it's not a question. She wants you

836
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,960
to know that she's very proud of your girlfriend.

837
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: Well, I greatly appreciate that, thank.

838
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 2: You, And she's right, Yeah, your girlfriend's definitely a keeper.

839
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,840
It looks like Larry Berlind has a next question. He

840
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,840
wants to know have you had any other encounters or

841
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,159
noticed anything weird?

842
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: Now, unfortunately, I haven't had any other encounters than the one.

843
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,800
I haven't noticed anything weird, but I would like to.

844
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:33,400
I would like to have another encounter with it and

845
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,559
hopefully say this creature again.

846
00:45:36,639 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, if you do have another encounter,

847
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,079
I hope it's one that's not going to be really frightening.

848
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:43,519
Hopefully it's a benign one.

849
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,039
Speaker 3: Right as Even as a hunter, like we were talking

850
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:49,599
about before, it's not even something that i'd want to hunt.

851
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:51,920
It's just something, you know, i'd like to see and

852
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,159
maybe get some more evidence of what I did see

853
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:59,679
and have supportive evidence of what I'm saying. Other than

854
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:04,079
and I'm greatly appreciative that everybody listening tell me, but

855
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,239
I would love to have had a picture to show

856
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:06,800
you all of it.

857
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,679
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, there are so many things that you

858
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:12,679
wish you could go back and do, do this, do that.

859
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,480
But now I think you handled everything really well. Like

860
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:18,800
I said, you should be commended. You really should. This

861
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,800
next question is from Stella and Stella wants to know

862
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,679
did you sense a telepathic connection to the dog men?

863
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: I did not.

864
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 3: Like I said, the only thing that was going through

865
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000
my mind was shocked of what I was saying and

866
00:46:33,079 --> 00:46:34,199
trying to comprehend.

867
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked. As an understatement, I can only

868
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,199
imagine what must have been going through your mind at

869
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:40,599
the time.

870
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: And there was a lot of questions.

871
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 2: Oh I bet, yeah, that's natural. D Truth wants to know.

872
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,440
You mentioned that you have a little girl. Would you

873
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,119
not take her into the woods after this?

874
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: I would.

875
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,119
Speaker 3: I'd advocate for anybody to go hunting and get outside

876
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,199
and and have your own adventures and hunts and stories

877
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:03,679
to tell.

878
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,079
Speaker 1: I would take her in a heartbeat.

879
00:47:07,679 --> 00:47:10,559
Speaker 2: Well, she's got a great tutor right there to teach

880
00:47:10,559 --> 00:47:12,760
her everything that she would want to know about the woods,

881
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,719
So well, where could she want. But the next questions

882
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,760
from Stephen Toll and Stephen wants to know were the

883
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,320
arms longer than the legs?

884
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,559
Speaker 1: Now, it was pretty proportionate.

885
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 3: It When it was standing upright, as far as I

886
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,840
could tell looking up the thing, it was almost like

887
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,599
bare arms like hung pretty much level with the waist.

888
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:37,960
Once the hands were down. It didn't raise its arms

889
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,159
up or pull its hands up to its face. When

890
00:47:40,199 --> 00:47:42,360
it was rocking left and right, it had its arms

891
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,360
down by side.

892
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,599
Speaker 2: I see. Yeah, it's easy to think that all dogmen

893
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,880
have arms that are longer than their legs, but that's

894
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,320
not the keys. There are variants of kenine types, that is,

895
00:47:53,559 --> 00:47:56,199
that have short little t rex arms that they hold

896
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,920
up in front of themselves, kind of bent up in

897
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,559
a strange way. So not all dogmen have freakishly long arms.

898
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,880
That's just not the keys. The next question is from

899
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:12,440
al Santo Riga and now wants to know. Was its

900
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,239
head too large for its body?

901
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:20,679
Speaker 3: Very proportionate? It was just a large animal. Nothing really

902
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:24,679
seemed bigger than anything else on it. It had a

903
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,239
large head, but it had a large body as well.

904
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, some dogmen have disproportionately large heads. Most don't, so

905
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,719
that fits the truth is next one up. He wants

906
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,639
to know did it look like any of the movie

907
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:40,960
wear wolves.

908
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,639
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't manlike other than apart from standing on

909
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:50,119
its back legs. It was very matching details to a canine.

910
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,800
It looked hard like a canine. It had a longer snout.

911
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,440
Its snout was longer than most coyotes or wolves that

912
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,880
you see.

913
00:49:01,159 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: I see, well, some do that, some don't, So there's

914
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,679
no rhyme nor reason to that either absolutely, And I

915
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,880
just erased a or unstart a really good question. I'll

916
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,760
see if I can't go back and find that one.

917
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,679
In the meantime, I've got another one for you from Jackie,

918
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,960
and she wants to know did you stay in your

919
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,199
still hunt position after you saw it?

920
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,039
Speaker 3: Like I was talking in the beginning, I actually wasn't

921
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:32,840
in a still hunting spot yet. I was scouting for

922
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,960
the turkeys when I seen it, and I was moving,

923
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:37,360
And after I seen it, I stayed there for a

924
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,320
while and tried to see if I could see it

925
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,239
or if it would come back in. But after that, no,

926
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:45,760
I didn't stay there. I went on and looked for

927
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,199
a bird.

928
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,639
Speaker 2: You've got a lot of sand, most people would have

929
00:49:49,679 --> 00:49:52,599
packed up and headed out of there, never to be

930
00:49:52,679 --> 00:49:56,119
seen again in those woods. So yeah, that's impressive that

931
00:49:56,159 --> 00:50:03,599
you stayed. This next question is that's strange I started,

932
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,199
but it's there we go. It just popped up. Bell

933
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,039
wants to know have your friends ever experienced anything in

934
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:10,920
the woods like this.

935
00:50:13,519 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: I have a friend that had a sasquatch encounter, but

936
00:50:16,039 --> 00:50:18,239
I've never had a friend encounter of the dog man,

937
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,039
and a lot of the people I speak to have

938
00:50:20,199 --> 00:50:22,679
never had any encounters like that from around here.

939
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,039
Speaker 2: The funny thing about that is, I bet you have

940
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:29,159
more friends and associates who've had encounters with these things

941
00:50:29,199 --> 00:50:32,320
than you'd believe, but you don't know it because they

942
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,480
were afraid that you'd laugh at them or the usual things,

943
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,079
so they just kept it to themselves.

944
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: Right absolutely, And that was a way, you know, I

945
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,519
was thinking too. It's like a lot of people would

946
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:48,079
probably be afraid to risk their credibility talking about something

947
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:51,079
that they seen that was abnormal. But I was hoping

948
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:53,480
maybe if I come on the show and being as

949
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,880
a recognized hunt from my area than I am, maybe

950
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,760
some other people might be able to come forward and

951
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,559
talk about an experience that they had.

952
00:51:01,559 --> 00:51:04,679
Speaker 2: Well, that's admirable. You just might be right. Someone listening

953
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,280
to this might contact me for that reason. You never know.

954
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,880
The next question is, and this is a good question.

955
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:18,519
It's from Jeremiah Johnson, and Jeremiah wants to know do

956
00:51:18,679 --> 00:51:21,280
the ears twitch or skin when you put the scope

957
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,199
and rifle on it?

958
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 3: They were pretty still when I had the scope up

959
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,119
around its head. It didn't look like it was moving

960
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:30,159
its ears around. They were kind of pointing back, and

961
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:33,840
he was moving on out of the power line.

962
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,679
Speaker 2: Not to be the dead horse, but like I said,

963
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,840
you really deserve a lot of credit to notice all

964
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,920
these little details about it. When all this was playing out,

965
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,559
most people their brains would have gone to mush instantly.

966
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,400
The truth wants to know what would you have done

967
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,840
if it would have headed toward you?

968
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: It had been a hard call. I guess, I.

969
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,519
Speaker 3: I guess if it would have come after me, it

970
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:00,480
wouldn't have been much I could have done other than

971
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,800
you know, you either got in the truck and left

972
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:08,280
or made a stand there. But it's hard to tell

973
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,079
what the twenty two magnum that are done. But I'm

974
00:52:11,079 --> 00:52:15,840
sure I don't I really don't think that it wanted

975
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,880
anything to do with me.

976
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like it didn't. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't,

977
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,760
And yeah, in your case, it sounds like it definitely didn't.

978
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,559
The next questions from Ryan Scott, and Ryan wants to

979
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,760
know do you think it was a female or a meal?

980
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure. I couldn't. I couldn't

981
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,360
really tell. It wouldn't something I was looking forward through

982
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,599
the scout.

983
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure. And with all that fur, it'd be

984
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,199
pretty hard to tell if it had indoor outdoor plumbing anyway.

985
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 1: So it didn't have any it didn't have like female

986
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,199
breasts or anything, or you could tell it wasn't human.

987
00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:57,679
Speaker 2: Like Yeah, Well, like I said, you should be commended

988
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:00,159
for all the details that you did notice about this thing.

989
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,800
So I think he did a really good job. The

990
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,480
next question is from Michigan Meat Eater and he wants

991
00:53:06,519 --> 00:53:08,639
to know did he happen to go look for signs

992
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,960
slash tracks after the encounter?

993
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: Now, I did not. I never went up there to

994
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,039
where I seen it at.

995
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's understandable. The next one on deck is from

996
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Summarne zero seven and they want to know thank you

997
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,159
for sharing your experience with this in your opinion, though,

998
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,119
Where do you think dogmen originate from? And are you

999
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:38,480
still finding joy going into the woods.

1000
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:42,679
Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure where they might originate from.

1001
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,280
I know that there's old, old stories of them, Indian

1002
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,440
wives tales, and I know what was the first reported

1003
00:53:51,519 --> 00:53:55,440
case was in Wisconsin, wasn't.

1004
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:01,559
Speaker 2: It Michigan, Wexford, Michigan, Michigan, eighteen seventy seven? Yeah, but

1005
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,920
close to it, definitely close.

1006
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: There was loggers that had seen it, wasn't.

1007
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: It in eighteen seventy seven? Yeah, there was a little

1008
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,800
girl who got well, it's alleged that she got nabbed

1009
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,920
by one and she was with loggers at the time

1010
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,880
in Wexford County there. So you're right, you are and.

1011
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: About going in the woods still, Yeah, I'm still very

1012
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,440
passionate OUTDOORSMN.

1013
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:28,639
Speaker 1: I love going outside.

1014
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:32,679
Speaker 3: And uh, it wasn't something that would deter me or

1015
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:37,079
make me tell anyone else not to go in the woods.

1016
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,320
I believe everybody should do a little bit outdoors, and

1017
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,599
as electronic as today is, it's good to get out.

1018
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:48,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing like being in the woods. If more

1019
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:50,599
people times, if more people spent time out there, the

1020
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:54,079
world would be a better place. It really would. The

1021
00:54:54,119 --> 00:54:57,400
next questions from Red Edged Savage and they want to

1022
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,599
know before you saw it, did you notice anything misty,

1023
00:55:00,639 --> 00:55:03,719
fog or shadows or other strange things.

1024
00:55:05,159 --> 00:55:08,079
Speaker 3: No, it was a clear day. It was in April

1025
00:55:08,119 --> 00:55:10,840
and Virginia. It was just a perfect hunting in Turkey morning.

1026
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:13,719
There was no really clouds. It was about ten am.

1027
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:18,039
Speaker 2: It was a normal morning until it showed up. The

1028
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:21,800
next question is the last one I'm gonna post where

1029
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,840
almost at the one hour mark. This one's from Isaac Molett,

1030
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,559
and Isaac wants to know can you tell us more

1031
00:55:29,679 --> 00:55:33,199
of your acquaintance's stories of Bigfoot and how did you

1032
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,599
feel when they spoke of Bigfoot or any other being

1033
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,880
like bigfoot or dog men.

1034
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 3: Oh, they were very passionate when they told me a story.

1035
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:48,880
I definitely believe their story. I'm sure they probably wouldn't

1036
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,519
mind if I told her. They were camping and they

1037
00:55:51,559 --> 00:55:53,679
said they had large rocks started at them at a

1038
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,440
camp and they don't really know what kind of throwing

1039
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,000
the rocks other than that they didn't really see one or.

1040
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm sure I don't need to tell you

1041
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,960
that throwing rocks that's pretty typical for sasquatch when they

1042
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,360
decide to mess with people. Thank goodness, they are so

1043
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:14,159
accurate and very rarely do they ever hit us right.

1044
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,639
Speaker 3: I've never had an experience with a sasquatch or seen

1045
00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:23,239
any tracks or found anything like that. The only abnormal

1046
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,519
experience that I've seen is I encountered to dog man.

1047
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've got a lot of years ahead of you.

1048
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,960
It's hard to say what the future holds. It really is,

1049
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,679
but like I said, if you do have another encounter,

1050
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:40,320
I hope it's another good one, but time will tell. Well,

1051
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,000
before we get out of here, Aaron, do you have

1052
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,760
any clothing comments you'd like to share?

1053
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 3: I really I'd like to thank you for having me

1054
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:49,719
on the show and let me come on here and

1055
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,239
share my story with everybody and just thank you.

1056
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,199
Speaker 2: Oh you know, you're welcome. It's been great having you

1057
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,159
and people have encounters like you where the doll man

1058
00:57:01,199 --> 00:57:05,400
doesn't try to terrify them. It just moves on and

1059
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,880
that's all there is to it. And a lot of

1060
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,000
these eyewitnesses, I hear them say that their encounter isn't

1061
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,960
fitting for coming on the show and sharing because it's

1062
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,760
not frightening. All I care about is if it's an

1063
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,800
honest experience, if it actually happened, If the person's being

1064
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:25,199
truthful about having the experience, that's all that matters. Couldn't

1065
00:57:25,239 --> 00:57:28,320
care less if it is a frightening one or one

1066
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,719
that's about as benign as they can be. So if

1067
00:57:31,719 --> 00:57:33,920
you've had an encounter that you don't think is frightening

1068
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:37,000
enough to qualify for coming on the show, yeah, please

1069
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:39,719
don't think that way, because that's just not the case

1070
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,760
at all. It really isn't. But having said that, Aaron,

1071
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,760
I can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing

1072
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,000
the details of that experience with this I really appreciate it.

1073
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 3: And like I said, thank you very much. Thank you

1074
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:53,960
for allowing men to come on here and tell my

1075
00:57:54,039 --> 00:57:57,760
story and talk about where I'm from and just basically

1076
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,599
what went on for me day hunting.

1077
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 2: Well, you know you're welcome, glad to give you a

1078
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,360
platform to do it. So thanks again for coming on.

1079
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:09,400
But having said that, yeah, thanks again so much for

1080
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,199
your time and have a great night. Well that's another

1081
00:58:13,239 --> 00:58:16,039
one wrapped. Before I go, I just want to remind

1082
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:19,039
you about two things. Number One, like I mentioned at

1083
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:21,719
the head of the show. If you're a premium member,

1084
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:24,320
I'm going to be publishing well, I guess it's ten

1085
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,519
to one Eastern time now, so it just published a

1086
00:58:27,559 --> 00:58:31,280
bonus episode for premium members only if you're not a

1087
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,559
premium member of the podcast version of the show, because

1088
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,199
there's a podcast version of every episode and there is

1089
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,199
a YouTube version of every show. If you want to

1090
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,519
be able to listen to the podcast version of the show,

1091
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:50,639
and especially tonight's bonus episode for premium members, if you're

1092
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:52,800
not a premium member, then all you have to do

1093
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,880
is just go to Dogmandcounters dot com, visit the podcast page,

1094
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,519
and then right there you'll find instructions on how to

1095
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,000
become one, or if you just want to start listening

1096
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:05,360
to the podcast version of the show, then you can

1097
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
find the instructions and links to do it that way

1098
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:11,119
there as well. The second thing, if you've had a

1099
00:59:11,159 --> 00:59:13,440
dog Man encounter that you'd like to talk with me

1100
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,719
about because you need help dealing with it, coming to

1101
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,440
terms with it, or if you're not having problems dealing

1102
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,960
with it, but you'd like to come on the show,

1103
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,480
for example, and share it with the listeners, all you

1104
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,159
would need to do is just go to dogmandcounters dot

1105
00:59:26,199 --> 00:59:29,639
com submit a report. If you do that, then I'd

1106
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:32,840
be more than happy to contact you and talk about

1107
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,599
this experience you've had or experiences that you've had with

1108
00:59:35,719 --> 00:59:38,039
you and also if you want to be a guest,

1109
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:42,599
schedule recording, so it's as easy as that. And also too,

1110
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,440
a lot of the listeners have had sasquatch sightings and experiences.

1111
00:59:46,719 --> 00:59:49,000
If you've had a sasquatch sighting and we'd like to

1112
00:59:49,039 --> 00:59:52,639
be a guest on my Bigfoot Sighting that's my bigfoot podcast,

1113
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:56,039
then please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com and

1114
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:59,159
submit a guest request. If you do that, then of

1115
00:59:59,199 --> 01:00:01,679
course I'll contact you to get that all set up.

1116
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:04,039
But the only requirement for that is you have to

1117
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:07,480
have had at least one sasquatch sighting. But having said

1118
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,679
all that, like I said, thanks again so much for

1119
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,840
listening everyone. I really do appreciate it and hope you

1120
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:40,559
have a great weekend, so I'll catch you next week.