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smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for

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your support. Do you know who Mo Davis is? Maybe

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this will be the only time you ever hear his name,

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and hopefully it's the last time I ever have to

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talk about him again. Mo Davis is a perennial candidate

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up in the Mountains. I believe he's originally from I

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want to say Shelby, but he's been living in Ashville

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for I don't know, probably better part of a decade

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at this point. And he was remember he was during

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the George W. Bush administration with the Abu Grabe prison

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scandal stuff, and he I think that's where he like

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he came out against the administration and he was the

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darling talking head on MSNBC for years for this stuff.

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And he's a believe he's a retired JAG officer, the lawyer,

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and anyway, he runs for office and he fails usually,

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I mean, he's never won in office, but he runs

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for office out there in the mountains, and usually for

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Congress he's done. This was his third run at it.

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And you may remember the first time he ran. He

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was running against Madison Cawthorn, remember him, Madison Cawthorn, who

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then lost to Chuck Edwards. Chuck Edwards Words is now

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the congressman for the western part of the state. And

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Mo Davis ran against Chuck Edwards as well and lost too.

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And now he was running again against Chuck Edwards. But

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now he has decided to drop out of the race.

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I'll explain why. But by way of background, Mo Davis

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was running against Cawthorn in twenty twenty. At that point,

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I was just doing my podcast. I was working and

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living in Nashville, and I was invited to participate in

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a debate with those two as a questioner, and so I,

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along with two other media types, we drafted questions and

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we would throw the questions out. And so when I

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went up and I asked the questions, I had done

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some research into Mo Davis's Twitter, And by research I

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mean I just like read through his and the guy

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has like some sort of best I could determine with

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some sort of like violence fetish or something, because so

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many of his tweets were like fantasizing about in great

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detail about harming Trump supporters and Trump, I mean not

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explicitly Trump because that would get you the Secret Service

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visit and all. But he said, you know, you would

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refer to the voters as magats, maggots, right, dehumanizing language,

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that sort of stuff, and just real nasty stuff. And

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so I read to him at this debate. I read

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to him some of his tweets, and I asked him,

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how are you expecting to secure these votes? And if

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you were to actually win, why would people that you're

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describing like this, why would they feel like you are

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a representative of them right when you're talking about putting

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your heel onto their necks and grinding it down into

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the pavement until you hear the snap of bones. That's

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what he wrote. And his answer was something like, well,

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you're in the media, and so like you know, I

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was like a writing for a different audience or something

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like that. So in other words, I was like, well,

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you know, I've never written anything like that, I've never

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said anything like that. I don't speak like that. So

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he obviously thought that this was something that the audience

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of MSNBC just lapped up, and so he had to

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just keep shoveling it. I thought it was disqualifying. I

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don't think you should talk about people like that, especially

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if you want their votes and you want to represent them, right,

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And he lost because Democrats in western North Carolina they

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are very weird. Well I mean there aren't Democrats, but

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like they're very weird in the sense that they have

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this belief that they in Asheville basically can carry the

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entire district, like if they can just get themselves a

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good candidate into the general election, that they will win.

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But the numbers are not there for them. They would

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have to jerrymander a district that would you know, start

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in Ashville and kind of snake all the way over

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to Boon to get like basically get all the university

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towns right all the college towns. You would have to

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make this sort of like long squiggly district in order

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to get enough Democrats because there are a lot of

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registered Democrats still in the mountains. But they vote Republican, okay,

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and so they have this in their head that somehow

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or another, like they can actually win this congressional seat.

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We shall say. But Mo Davis threw was name into

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the hat again for this congressional district, the eleventh, and

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they had a big district dinner over the weekend, and

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they had gotten into some trouble the Democrat Party did,

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because they had invited only one of the candidates to speak,

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and it wasn't Mo Davis. It was because they got

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a primary they're doing, and so they invited Jamie Ager

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and not any of the other Democrats. And so Mo

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Davis went off on social media as he does, and

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you know, started saying all these nasty things about everybody

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and all the Democrats and all this, and then apparently

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they reworked the lineup and they said, fine, we can

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have you you know all speak at this dinner, okay,

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and on the merits of the of the beef. He's correct,

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by the way, like the Democrat Party says that they

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don't they don't, you know, pick winners in the primaries.

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They don't do endorsements and all that stuff. But if

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you're going to do a big dinner like this, and

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you're going to give one candidate the stage like that's

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you're pretty well endorsing them at that point, right, So

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they have the dinner, But before the dinner, apparently Mo

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Davis dropped out. In a grievance laced midnight Facebook post,

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Democratic congressional candidate Mo Davis dropped out of the race Saturday,

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effectively positioning Fairview farmer Jamie Ager as the party's front

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runner to take on Republican Representative Chuck Edwards in the

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next year's election. Davis's decision came just hours before he

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Ager and three lesser known candidates were to address a

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Democratic Party fundraiser marking the unofficial kickoff to the primary campaign.

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The NC eleven gala had become entangled in an intra

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party feud ignited by Moe Davis, who protested that party

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leaders were positioning as the favorite by giving him a

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keynote speaking spot at the dinner. And look, there is

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a reason why it looks like that. It's because that's

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what they were doing, right. Yeah, that's why it looks

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like they were positioning him favorably, is because they were

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positioning him favorably of course they were. Ager is the

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CEO of Hickory Nutgap Farms Historic Farm. He comes from

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a long line of politicians like this is a dynasty

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in the in the mountains there, and that's what Mo

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Davis ran up against and then went off on a

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ti rate. So I guess no more Democrat runs from Odavis.

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more transparent. Here's a message from Dave in Shelby who

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says Shelby definitely does not claim Mo Davis. That's fair.

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That is fair. Also, I got a message here from John.

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It's a pete mail. I guess somebody stepped on Mo

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Davis's campaign's neck until it's snap. That's nice, nicely done, John. Yes,

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so Mo Davis, No Mo Mo. He is out. He said,

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I'm grateful to everyone who supported my effort to kick

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ass for the working class in western North Carolina. Oh sorry,

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I forgot to mention this. Also, not only does he

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have like some anger management issues and the violence fetish

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thing going on on the social media accounts, but he

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curses a lot too. He uses cuss words and stuff.

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And he was doing this long before this became a

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consultant recommendation among all Democrats. He was kind of he's

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kind of a trailblazer here, he said, at the end

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of the day, you can't overcome the overwhelming weight of

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the party's dynasties who have aligned behind the status quo.

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Tonight I concede to John Ager. Uh see what he

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did there. John Ager is not actually the candidate that

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he's running against. Jamie Ager is. John is Jamie's dad.

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John was a longtime state representative, and then Eric ran

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for the seat and now holds that state legislative seat

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in Raleigh. Eric Ager. So this is what he's accusing.

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Mo Davis is accusing the Aeger family of basically operating

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as a dynasty, a family dynasty. Here and again, there's

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a reason why it looks like that. It's because that

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is the case, right, That's absolutely the case, he says.

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I can can see to John Aeger, referring to the

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patriarch of the Aeger family. He cleared the deck to

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pass down his state House seat to his son Eric

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in twenty twenty two, and he's doing the same for

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his son, Jamie in twenty twenty six. Jamie Aeger is

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named after his grandfather, James Jamie Clark, who represented the

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region in Congress from nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety

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one and for a decade before that in the state

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General Assembly. So you've got Jamie Clark, then John Aeger,

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then Eric Aeger and finally Jamie Aeger. Yeah, that's a

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dynasty's that's yeah, that's three generations, right. So Moe Davis

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is pointing the party, pointing out the party's dynasties. This

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is what he's talking about. He said, political office is

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a family heirloom that gets handed down like its granddaddy's

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pocket watch. Now, part of the problem from Odavis is him.

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He's not a very pleasant person, and so there's not

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a lot of tears being shed that he has dropped out.

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By the way, I'm reading from the Ashville Watchdog Avlwatchdog

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dot org and Beth Hampton Jones, interim chair of the

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Democrat Party's District eleven organization, told the watchdog that Davis

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had very little support within the party. Quote after losing

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in the twenty twenty election and burning bridges within the

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party with his aggressive style of blame and name calling,

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I'm not sure why he thought that he could build

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real support for his campaign without the Democratic base. She

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said he had alienated many party workers and voters with

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an aggressive campaign style. In the days before this fundraiser.

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Over the weekend, Davis took direct and personal swipes at

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the state Democrat Party chair Anderson Clayton, as well as

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campaign strategist Grayson Barnett. He blamed them for pushing Ager's

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candidacy despite the party's rule prohibiting party officers from endorsing

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individual candidates before primary elections. And what mode Davis said was, quote,

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when the head of the state party publicly supports one

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candidate and her senior advisor manages that candidate's campaign, it's

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game over. Well now, so Breezy Clayton, that's her Twitter handle,

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Anderson Clayton, her senior advisor, is running Agger's campaign. Yeah,

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I'd say that's that's a pretty clear indication.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The party leadership's ill disguised search for an alternative to

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Moe Davis focused early on Jamie Ager as being a

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strong competitor against Chuck Edwards, especially in the rural and

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conservative counties that have gone heavily for Donald Trump. In

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addition to the family's historic ties to the region. Party

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activists contended privately that as a successful farmer and entrepreneur,

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Ager could win votes beyond the heavily Democrat Buncom County

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and the other progressive pockets scattered across the district sixteen counties.

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So they went out and got themselves an actual farmer.

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Like this is they so need somebody else they have

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been They have been chasing the ghost of Heath Schuler

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for twenty years now. Heath Shuler, former quarterback local guy,

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went to the NFL right and like he represented the

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district in Congress until Mark Meadows won the seat and

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then it has not been in Democrats hand since because

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the voting patterns changed. But man, they need to find

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themselves somebody, and they keep thinking they've got someone and

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maybe this guy'll do it. Maybe this will be Heath

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Schuler's ghost reincarnated. We shall say, here's a great idea.

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for the past year all of the helpful advice that

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the consultant class is giving Democrat candidates so as to

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improve their electoral prospects. Okay, some of the things that

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have been recommended so far, I'm keeping a list more cussin, right,

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you got to curse a lot more. Okay. There was

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also the push to grow facial hair. I'm not sure

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if that was for men and women, but facial hair

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was a plus. It kind of conveys the idea that

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first off, your chin may be actually bigger than it is.

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Maybe not a double chin either, but mainly it's like

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it shows virility. I'm a man, I can grow hair

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on my face, right, So there was that. There's also

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this there was a rash of videos that were shot

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from gym's working out, so you got like Eric Swallwell

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bench pressing that sort of thing. So they were obviously

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they have been advised like this is how you're going

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to get the dudes back to voting for you is

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you got to have the facial hair, got to be cursing,

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and you got to be lifting weights, which actually did

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not turn out to be really good advice for Zorron.

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Ma'm Danny the Kami you know jeehati adjacent guy running

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for mayor of New York. Apparently over the weekend he

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was at some campaign, you know, grip and grin kind

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of event, and I don't know why they were like

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working out. I think they had a bench press there,

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and so he got onto the bench and he tried

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to bench press like I don't even know. It looked

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like maybe one hundred pounds maybe, and he could not

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do it. So like that's the downside. That's why you

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got to do that sort of thing in a controlled

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environment where you can like take all the weights off

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of the bell, off of the bar rather and then

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you could just lift the bar and then not show

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anybody the weights, you know, that kind of thing, or

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just do something that you know you can do, like

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maybe just get on the treadmill and just jog a

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little bit. Anyway, So there's some other advice now that's

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being offered up. This came from Politico and their playbook,

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that's what it's called playbook, and they advised in a

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new memo there is a center left think tank which

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kind of sounds like an oxymoron, but okay, it's called

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Third Way and it is circulating a list of forty

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five words and phrases that they want Democrats to avoid using,

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saying that the terms put up a wall between us

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and everyday people of all races, religions, and ethnicities, which

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that sentence alone is indicative of your problem. Right, You're like, oh,

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these words are putting up a wall between us and

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these slubs. Man Like, yeah, you're not seeing yourself as

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an everyday person. That's the problem right there. The fact

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that anyway, so this is what they have come up with. Okay,

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it's a set of words that they suggest people just

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don't say. I mean, you can still believe all of

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this stuff. You can be, you know, a full fledged

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member of the moonbat brigade, but you just can't say

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this stuff to the quote everyday people, right, makes democrats

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sound like they're extreme, makes them sound divisive, elitist, obfuscatory,

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enforcers of wokeness. Yes, right, there is a reason why

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that's the way democrats sound, perfectly logical explanation, which is

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that that's what they are, and that is why people

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do not want to be associated with them. In record,

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they are hemorrhaging voters. We covered this story the other day.

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Last week, the New York Times had all of the

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data and of the thirty states that track or that

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allow people to sign up with a political party. Twenty

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states do not, but thirty states do, along with the

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District of Columbia. And in every single one of those states,

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Democrats have lost registration and in every one of those

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states Republicans have gained. Like, this is an existential threat

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now to the Democrats. This I've said it from the

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beginning that the wokeism stuff, this critical theory, this Marxism,

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it is a cancer and it is right now eating

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the Democrat Party. So what are the words thought? You

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never ask among the blacklisted terms? Can you say blacklist?

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Is that anyway? Privilege violence as in environmental violence, dialoguing,

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which I support that too. That's a terrible word, just

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say talking, triggering, othering, microaggression, holding space, body shaming, subverting norms,

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systems of oppression. I think I saw them open for

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leftover salmon actually back in nineteen ninety nevermind cultural appropriation,

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don't say it overton window, existential threat to the climate,

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the democracy, the economy, whatever, radical transparency, stakeholders, the unhoused,

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food insecurity. I don't think they're going to have any

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words left. This is literally all they say. You're basically saying, guys,

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everything that you say turns people. So you're going to

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have to adopt a completely different language than the one

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that you have adopted over the last decade. Housing insecurity,

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person who immigrated, you can't say that, Well, they're not

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going to say illegal alien. So what are they elect

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with birthing person or as I like to call them, women,

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cis gender not a thing, dead naming, heteronormative patriarchy, LGBTQI

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A plus bipoc. You know what BIPOC is. No, it's

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not it's not the it's not the cousin of tupocets.

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It's not that black Indigenous people of color b I POC.

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Don't say allyeship, don't say incarcerated people or involuntary confinement,

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he said. The think tank says, we are doing our

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best to get Democrats to talk like normal people. Which

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that's the problem. You don't talk like normal people because

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you're not normal people. This is not like the language

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is not some it's not some affectation. Right, these are things.

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But you guys adopted these words because you are in

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on the ideology. Changing your words is not going to

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change the ideology. You are locked in the tendency for

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interpersonal victim and mindset. This tiv mindset. We think this

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is Matt Bennett uh from the Third Way. He says,

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we think language is one of the central problems we

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face with normy voters, signaling that we are out of

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touch with how they live, think and talk. Once again,

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it's always the messaging with the Democrats, like, it's never

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the policies. They never believe that the stuff that they

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are talking about is the problem. They always think it's like, oh,

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our message just hasn't broken through. We haven't figured out

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the right slogan to sell this to you on Always

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the same with these people. All right, you hear me

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talk a lot about incentives, right, Well, let's talk about

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better returns. So again to recap more cussing. Democrats want

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to win. They got to get the young dudes back.

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So the way they think they're going to do this,

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according to the various stories and the reporting over the

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last few months, it's more cussing, lift weights, grow facial hair. Also,

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you can get yourself arrested, maybe get shot even that

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was one suggestion from a focus group that was done.

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I mean get shot by ice while you're protesting an

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ice facility. Okay, so something like that, or just get

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arrested at an ice facility. Right, and now this from

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Third Way, essentially their recommendation is just stop talking, just

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stop talking. They have this list of words that Without

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these words, I don't know if Democrats are actually even

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able to have a conversation. Literally, Yeah, hang on a second.

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I had a message here from the Hellion on Twitter

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who says, so basically, throw out their entire vocabulary they've

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been using for twenty years, right exactly, They're about to

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out consult themselves. Yeah. I don't like The root of

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this is the ideas that you are promoting. People don't

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like them. They don't like them, and then you try

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to shame them and guilt them or lie about what

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it is you're trying to get done and what is

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their reaction. It's the same every time. You just don't

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understand what I am saying. This is a good policy,

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this is a good idea. I want to go in

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this direction. And the only reason that you would disagree

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with me is not because you disagree that the policy

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or idea or direction is bad. No, it's because I

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haven't articulated the proper formation of a sentence to convince

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you why it's a good thing. Mark, Sorry, Matt Bennett,

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I read the quote a minute ago. We think language

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is one of the central problems we face with normy voters.

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In other words, normal people. It's not the language you're using,

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it's the ideology that leads you to develop this kakamami

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language in the first place. You created these words for

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a reason. You do it to gain power to hide

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the ball. Lenay Ericsson, the senior vice president at Third Way,

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said the Democrat party brand is toxic across the country

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at this point, with way too many people, enough that

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there's no way for us to win a governing majority

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without changing that, which sounds pretty bad for them, that

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sense that the party brand is so toxic with too

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many people, there's no way to win a governing majority.

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She says. We were sticking to messages that were so

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overly scripted that they basically sounded like nothing. Yeah, that

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was the problem. You were too scripted. Right, It's not

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that you're paralyzed by fear of offending one of your

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coalition groups. Right, how about this what's a woman? Simple question?

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You guys couldn't answer it, And it wasn't due to

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the scripting. It was because you didn't want to say

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there were two sexes, because you didn't want to offend

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and anger a part of your moonback brigade base. So

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Politico asks, can Democrats really talk their way back to power. Uh,

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probably not. Let me jump over and get Tara on. Hello, Tara,

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welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Hey, pee to see you, hear you at this time.

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Speaker 1: It's a flashback for me. I used to do afternoons,

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so it's kind of reliving the old glories there.

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Speaker 2: No, I remember, I've followed you a long time. I

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knew you when you were very heavy.

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Speaker 1: Oh well that wasn't that long. It's been about four

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years though. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But I'm wondering do the Democrats believe themselves?

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Speaker 1: Are they just with regard to with regard to this,

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like the messaging versus the the ideology.

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Speaker 3: I think they're I think they're getting the the paperwork

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every day this say this it is and don't veer

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from that, and if you don't believe it, screw you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna keep going here. I don't think they believe

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in themselves.

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Speaker 1: Well, they think. I do believe that they honestly think

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that it is just messaging, that it's not the policies.

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And so because they everybody keeps saying the same thing, No,

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it's there, diluted, they are deluted because they think right, well,

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they think that they are and you've got rank and

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file people, you got consultants and all of this, and

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so it's this way that they just remember, like the

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whole point of this kind of analysis is to figure

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out a way to get back into power. And they

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believe that they are the good people and their ideas

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are good, so they deserve to be in power, right,

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And so the only reason why anybody would go against

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us is if they're being misled or they just don't

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unders stand what we are saying. But they're also kind

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of cowards and that they won't push back against the

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radical elements in their party, and those are the elements

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that drive these types of language changes.

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Speaker 2: Well, I agree with that, but I also think that

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they are having themselves on the back like they do

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with their Emmys and granted, like they give themselves awards

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and they're like yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well I got this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, because yeah, it allows them to not have to

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change any of their ideology, any of their ideas, not

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have to think well that too, I mean that was

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never really on board on the board for them. So Tarah,

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good to hear from you. I appreciate the call. Got

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to run all right, thank you, Tarah. Yeah, I think

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you know so much of this is it's grievance and

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if you just tell yourself that you're not breaking through

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with your message, then that's not your fault and you

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don't have to change any of your policies. You just

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have to hire more consultants. So say the consultants. There

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you go, all right, that'll do it for this episode.

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