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<v Speaker 1>Next on the Drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Daily assists.

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<v Speaker 2>Van McMahon, Van McMahon batted a Land Texas blood As tickets, Mud,

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<v Speaker 2>He's man, Van McMahon, Van McMahon, the man Man.

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<v Speaker 3>He is Ban McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the great Tim McMahon, who just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days ago was on television sporting a very handsome

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<v Speaker 1>cowboy hats? Or is ESPN Sports Center hits? Tim Happy Tuesday?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your idea or was the idea of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the producers.

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<v Speaker 4>Howdy Parker. No, that was definitely the idea of one

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<v Speaker 4>of the producers. It actually believed or not? The first

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<v Speaker 4>cowboy out of my life?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you look like that was like a consistent thing

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<v Speaker 1>that you that you sport from time to time.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, listen, I am a Texan, but my first cowboy

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<v Speaker 4>at and you know I can pull off a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of looks.

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<v Speaker 1>You sure can now what was on a few Which

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<v Speaker 1>kicks did you go with for the cowboy hat?

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<v Speaker 4>It was a simple look dead day. It was just

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<v Speaker 4>some nice white and brown Nike blazer lows.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, very very nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to ask because I feel like everybody's been complaining.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you run into travel issues going from Oka See

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<v Speaker 1>to Indianapolis as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Wasn't too bad? Had they always? You know, mixed emotions

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<v Speaker 4>layover in my home airport where I don't actually get

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<v Speaker 4>to go home. But other than thatt, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>just you know a little connection to here boo there,

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough. Well, since we're in Salt Lake, Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't bury the lead. I'll ask you a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of jazz questions because over the past twenty four or

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight hours, Sarah Todd, front of the show, works

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<v Speaker 1>for the Desert Red News. Bill Simmons himself has talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this. I think Zach Lowe, your former buddy, talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it as well. That apparently, according to several outlets

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<v Speaker 1>and sources, the Jazz are actively taking calls on Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>and Walker, who I think are the two best players

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster. Can you shed some light on this

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<v Speaker 1>as a guy who knows people over there and covers

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<v Speaker 1>the jazz for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they actively took calls on him last summer too,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's not necessarily a change. I mean, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>as we found out last summer, there's a long way

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<v Speaker 4>from actively taking calls to getting a trade done. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>they took a lot of calls on both those guys

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<v Speaker 4>last summer and never got anywhere close to making a trade. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm not going to sit here and tell

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<v Speaker 4>you that there's no way those guys would be traded.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're willing to listen, you're willing to make a trade.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think that the price is still pretty high,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I don't know, you know, obviously Austin

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<v Speaker 4>Age is running the show there now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if the price will be as high as it was

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<v Speaker 4>last summer. But like you know, there's a whole lot

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<v Speaker 4>of talk about Lowry going to the Warriors that never

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<v Speaker 4>got close because not only were the Warriors not willing

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<v Speaker 4>to discuss Brandon Podjemsky, but like the picks, they never

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<v Speaker 4>got close in the Picks either. So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay tuned. I do I do think though that you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you heard Austin Ames basically say we're not going

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<v Speaker 4>to tank by manipulating minutes as you know, or you

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<v Speaker 4>know basically they're not going to tank with disingenuous injury

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<v Speaker 4>reports is what he meant as well. There, he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>say they weren't going to be bad. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 4>that the you know, the roster wouldn't be very difficult

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<v Speaker 4>to win with next year, and so you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I'll put it like that, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 4>the Jazz are planning to win thirty five games next year.

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<v Speaker 1>So, ultimately, you know, if all of this is true,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have no idea, it feels like everyone's just

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<v Speaker 1>discussing the possibility, because, as you've said, even though Lowry

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<v Speaker 1>could not be traded after being signed, it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>prior to them signing him, they were con you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at least considering moving on from him, at least considering.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they're really actively I'm not gonna say shopping

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<v Speaker 1>to your point, I'll just say taking calls and kicking

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<v Speaker 1>the tires on the interest for marketing and the Walker one,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, man, he's twenty three and he's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be tough if they end up deciding to

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<v Speaker 1>move on from him. But is it just safe to

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<v Speaker 1>surmise that maybe they add number five this year and

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<v Speaker 1>number twenty one this year, and maybe two second rounders

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<v Speaker 1>that are nineteen, twenty twenty one, next to Kyle Philipowski

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<v Speaker 1>who's twenty one, and Isaiah Collier who's twenty and Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>Hendricks who's twenty one, and Keyontae George who's still young,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cody was twenty, Like, is it safe to say

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<v Speaker 1>that they're probably just gonna maybe do what the Wizards

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<v Speaker 1>did last year?

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<v Speaker 3>And know we're not tanking, but we are playing young.

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<v Speaker 1>Players exclusively that aren't ready to win pro basketball games.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a you know, that's a fair belief. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know. Like, look, I thought that they were

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<v Speaker 4>gonna end up trading one of their veterans or even

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of their veterans Clarkson Collins, Colin Sexton before

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<v Speaker 4>last year's trade deadline. That never happened. They just have

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<v Speaker 4>long running cases of like planet FASTI the itis and

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<v Speaker 4>don't even remember what else was on the injury report.

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<v Speaker 4>If you take off Stage's word the you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>uncurable uh planet fastidis cases won't continue. But again, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think they will have as many veterans on the

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<v Speaker 4>rosters even they did last year. You know, this is

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<v Speaker 4>this is a franchise that's a long way away. From

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<v Speaker 4>uh putting together a competitive team. Now, Walker Kessler could

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<v Speaker 4>certainly be part of their next competitive team. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>you can make a case that marketing could as well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a little bit harder to make the

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<v Speaker 4>case for Loally.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, before we move on to the finals, which

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<v Speaker 1>we will because there are teams playing, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>a pulse on how the front office feels about this

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<v Speaker 1>group of young players? And I mean it's not fair

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<v Speaker 1>to lump them all in together because their unique circumstances. Namely,

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Hendricks got hurt. We don't know as much about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Keyante Georges, the Isaiah Colliers, the Kyle Philipowski's,

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<v Speaker 1>the Cody Williams, like the draft picks that they've made,

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<v Speaker 1>the young players they've drafted, how do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>front office is.

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<v Speaker 3>Currently analyzing them and what they could be.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it's still so young, but we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to talk about the players that could be part

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<v Speaker 1>of the future.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, there have been glimpses from some of those,

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<v Speaker 4>But like Cody Williams, obviously you weren't making a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of grand conclusions about him. After the last season. You

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<v Speaker 4>knew he was wrong when you draft him, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't do a whole lot of lead lot like Taylor

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<v Speaker 4>Hendricks and uh, you know after his rookie year, they

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<v Speaker 4>did feel like Taylor Hendricks made some massive strides over

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<v Speaker 4>the summer and then unfortunately he got hurt very early

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<v Speaker 4>in the season. I think, you know, all the guys

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned, Isaiah Colliers probably impressed the most. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>Keyante George has has shown glimpses, but there was disappointment

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<v Speaker 4>and his lack of competitiveness on the defensive end this

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<v Speaker 4>year for sure. So you know, one thing you can

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<v Speaker 4>say is there's not a guy who's shown any uh

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<v Speaker 4>you know, who's provided any great uh reasons for confidence

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<v Speaker 4>that they can be like a major piece of a

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<v Speaker 4>championship type of core from that group. Now they're young,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe maybe there's you know one two, a few of

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<v Speaker 4>those guys can grow into that. But for having as

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<v Speaker 4>many young guys on the roster, you'd hope there would

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<v Speaker 4>have been more so forward than there has him from

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<v Speaker 4>that group.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree there all right before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the finals, I mean you just hear all of these

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about what could be a very dramatic, massive offseason

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, and you know coaches and coaches have

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<v Speaker 1>already lost their jobs. We talked about Tom Thibeau last week.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all of the big names that could be on

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<v Speaker 1>the move that could actually change a landscape of what

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<v Speaker 1>the league could look like, who would you say is

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<v Speaker 1>the most realistic and where would you say is the

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<v Speaker 1>most realistic landing spot?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, it will be very surprised if Kevin

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<v Speaker 4>Durand does not get traded. And you know, most realistic

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<v Speaker 4>spot that I don't know, there's probably six, maybe more

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<v Speaker 4>than that, like realistic candidates. I just kind of would

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<v Speaker 4>be throwing dark right now to say where I think

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<v Speaker 4>he would land out of those. You know, right now,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not sure if Jannis is going to be on

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<v Speaker 4>the trademark it or not. It's it's really kind of

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<v Speaker 4>up to him. Like the Bucks don't want to trade him.

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<v Speaker 4>If he goes to them and ass out, I think

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<v Speaker 4>they would grant the request and try to get a

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<v Speaker 4>good value for him. But it hasn't happened yet. The

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<v Speaker 4>Bucks have been out of the playoffs for quite some time,

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, the honest thing is at a stay

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<v Speaker 4>tuned stage right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So among your duties for the worldwide leader.

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Mavericks, of course, is a team you cover and

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<v Speaker 1>cover well and no people over there. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why Jason Kidd would leave what Dallas has in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for what New York has, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how really this is your buddy, Brian Winhorse is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's talked about it, But they just landed the

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<v Speaker 1>number one overall pick. Yes, they traded your boy Luca,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're still looking at a roster with Ad and

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<v Speaker 1>Kyrie and some other you know, PJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Washington, Klay Thompson's.

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<v Speaker 1>It is far from a bad situation, and honestly, with

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Flag on the way, it feels like it could

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<v Speaker 1>be sustainable for a lot longer than anything New York

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<v Speaker 1>has on their roster. So how real are these rumors?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're Jason Kidd, is that something you really

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<v Speaker 1>want to look to do?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? I would say that the Knicks did just come

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<v Speaker 4>off of a Conference finals appearance with a franchise player

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<v Speaker 4>who Jason Kidd knows very well and likes a lot,

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<v Speaker 4>really respects talking about jenen Brunson, obviously, and if there

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<v Speaker 4>was anything to it, this stuff would have been squashed.

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<v Speaker 4>If Jason Kidd was just happy to be in Dallas

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<v Speaker 4>and wouldn't want to consider the next job, he would

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<v Speaker 4>have made that very clear by now, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>the Mavericks were just unwilling to consider allowing j Kidd

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<v Speaker 4>to and I'm not gonna say talk to the Knicks,

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the Knicks because you're not granting he's

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<v Speaker 4>not asking for permission to interview. He's asked for permission

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<v Speaker 4>to be hired. The Mavericks weren't willing to consider that,

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<v Speaker 4>it would seem reasonable that they would have made that

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<v Speaker 4>very clear. Now. So the stuff has been out there

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<v Speaker 4>for a little while and it hadn't been squashed, and

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<v Speaker 4>so you know, we will see what happens. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>also been a pretty sloppy process by the Knicks. That

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<v Speaker 4>we're being honest, Like I don't really understand you fire TIBs,

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<v Speaker 4>you're top targeted a guy who's with another team, you

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<v Speaker 3>So let's move over there. Move over there? Does does uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Oklahoma Cities Arena remind you at all of the

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<v Speaker 1>Does it feel at all the way Salt Lake does

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<v Speaker 4>when the Jazz had like the whole spectrum from red

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it looks like a really cool environment. A fan

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<v Speaker 1>base really enjoying that moment, all right. To start the series,

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<v Speaker 1>To continue to be tremendously impressed that Rick Carlisle is

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty Mountain time.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anything from the first two games change your opinion

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<v Speaker 1>on how this ultimately will play out?

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's it's honestly, it's the Pacers for getting out

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<v Speaker 4>of there with a split when they have led for

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<v Speaker 4>two games and the majority of this series. Okay see,

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<v Speaker 4>he's had a double digit lead, but the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>that matters is it's one to one. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you what you know. Shaye by his MVP standards, he

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<v Speaker 4>had a mediocre thirty eight point performance in game one,

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<v Speaker 4>Game two, Ho ho boy. He was cooking. He was comfortable,

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<v Speaker 4>he was efficient, he was get everybody else rolling as well.

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<v Speaker 4>The Pacers have a real problem to figure it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>The Halliburton stuff, you know, ultimately, just nothing through the

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<v Speaker 1>first three quarters and then kind of gets going in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth when they were already down twenty. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>what's fair to say? Like, okay see, did this to

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<v Speaker 1>aunt two? Like it's it's who they are, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>easy to criticize Haliburton to say, wake up at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of the game, Uh, they're seven and one. When

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<v Speaker 1>he scores twenty points and then wins, he's like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one points, ten assists, and losses he's like eleven points,

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<v Speaker 1>five assists. So is this something that Indiana needs to

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<v Speaker 1>look at as far as getting him going earlier? Is

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<v Speaker 1>this just kind of like you tip your cap to

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<v Speaker 1>the best defensive team we've seen in maybe ten fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Albert had twenty one and eleven against the

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<v Speaker 4>Thunder during the regular season. That sounds great, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>a two game total. I mean, dude, when you're dealing

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<v Speaker 4>Cruso or it's Casey Wallace, maybe get switched on to

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<v Speaker 4>a Jayn Williams. That's tough, and they've made him play

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<v Speaker 4>in the half court. Haliburton had one transition played with

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<v Speaker 4>the ball in his hands in game one or a

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<v Speaker 4>game two, rather one, it was a turnover for Tyros Halbert.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to generate a single point in trans for an

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<v Speaker 4>really hard for them to score with any level of efficiency.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, credit to Okay, see they make that

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<v Speaker 4>to do with Mark Dagenhall's decision not to play the

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<v Speaker 4>two bigs together. You know, they did for I think

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<v Speaker 4>five minutes in Game two, but they've only played together

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<v Speaker 4>for five minutes in this series. And you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>think he probably watched the Eastern Conference Finals looked at

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<v Speaker 4>how badly the Knicks struggled in transition. You know, how

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<v Speaker 4>many passed calf Siakam buckets were just him being fast

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, getting the look ahead pass and finishing

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<v Speaker 4>and decided, hey, you know, priority number one is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be taking away transition from the Pacers, who have

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<v Speaker 4>a great engine to that offense in Haliburn, who you know,

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<v Speaker 4>if you take that away from there, they're not a

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, good possession after good possession in the half

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we would actually see to your point about

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<v Speaker 1>the two bigs. I thought dag Naut would go away

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<v Speaker 1>Did that surprise you after they lost game one?

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<v Speaker 4>Well again, oh, you said you thought he'd played together

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<v Speaker 4>a lot in game two or that he would stay

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe we'd see more of them together only

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, uh, you know again, I think he had good

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<v Speaker 4>reasons for that. I think it's something where he doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>want to play those guys together when Haliburt and Siakam

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<v Speaker 4>are on the court, you know, because those guys obviously

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<v Speaker 4>create and transition opportunities, played together for five minutes. But

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think he was pretty confident that his

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<v Speaker 4>again you can criticize, probably change the starting lineup, and

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<v Speaker 4>he'd have the same starting lineup for every playoff game

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<v Speaker 4>before that, and you're blinking first, and you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>can criticize all those things. It's not like the start

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<v Speaker 4>is what cost him in that game. They fell apart

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<v Speaker 4>in the last five minutes. It'll really last three minutes

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<v Speaker 4>of that game. So I think he looked at it

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<v Speaker 4>and said, Okay, you know, all the reasons we decided

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<v Speaker 4>to do this in the days between the series still

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<v Speaker 4>hold up, So we're going to stick with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at this point, you know, adjustments or

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<v Speaker 1>schematic approaches that are different or even rotational decisions. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the NBA Finals, You're three wins away from

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<v Speaker 1>being a world champ. But is there anything that you've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that Indiana can do that gives them a better

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<v Speaker 1>chance to make the rest of the series interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>Does he does Rick shrink his rotation?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know because where it's it's June, like, these

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<v Speaker 1>two teams are who they are. But can Indiana do

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<v Speaker 1>anything to maybe extend this series longer than most people think.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't underestimate Rick Cardisle, you know, I don't underestimate

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<v Speaker 4>his ability to come up with solutions. Rick's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>smarter than I am, because I'm struggling to see what

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<v Speaker 4>those solutions might be.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, all right, before I say you loose, what does

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<v Speaker 1>your guy tell you about tomorrow? Does Indiana get the

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<v Speaker 1>proverbial Game three at home?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? You know what this is interesting? The thunder of

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<v Speaker 4>stunk in Game three during this postseason they're one of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty nine down after John Moran got hurt. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>a trend that I would recommend that the Thunder would

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<v Speaker 4>be determined to end. Again. I think they are the

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<v Speaker 4>better team by a significant margin, you know. I think

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<v Speaker 4>that they just present matchup problems that are going to

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<v Speaker 4>be very tough for the Pacers to solve. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll see there's gonna be the energy of the crowd,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, especially if the Pacers can give this crowd

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<v Speaker 4>some reason to sustain that energy early on, then you

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<v Speaker 1>All right, my guy, Well, enjoy Indianapolis. Glad you've traveled safely.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for the time to day and we'll chat zoom.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you'll appreciate this. Guess where we are having to

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<v Speaker 4>pick up hoops from tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>What do we got? Who's yours? Jim?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, field House got a boy?

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<v Speaker 3>Is mcten seed playing with you?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's the one who? Yeah, Scott Agnes, who's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a local guy up here? And McK tanner the ones

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<v Speaker 4>who made sure that we were able to make this happen.

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<v Speaker 4>So looking forward to that. Hopefully I'll be able to

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<v Speaker 4>walk up right at the.

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<v Speaker 3>End, four passes before you shoot it, you know the

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<v Speaker 3>you know the rules.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's found good brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim McMahon covers the NBA for ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>Always appreciate his time on Twitter at ESPN Underscore McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>You can also find the link to his book that

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote about Luka Doncic Luka Doncic in the Curse

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<v Speaker 1>of Greatness And Yeah, it's been a big year for

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<v Speaker 1>our guys, really kind of risen up the ranks over there.

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<v Speaker 3>Very happy for Tim. He's been a long time friend

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<v Speaker 3>of the show.