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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from Studio A here at Proven Winners

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<v Speaker 1>Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and YouTube show with Stacey Hervella Me, Rick weisst

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<v Speaker 1>and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well. Over the

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<v Speaker 1>past few weeks, the Gardening Simplified Show has gone on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. We've gone our separate ways on trips, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we'll share some of those adventures with you. Stacey

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<v Speaker 1>went to Japan, Adriana went to Australia, and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to Costa Rica now Putavida. It's pure life. What a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful life it is. I loved Costa Rica. It was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I have heard great things. I have also had people

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<v Speaker 2>say to me, if you go to Costa Rica, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to drag you away because they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go crazy from all the plants.

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<v Speaker 1>And there are many Americans, many Canadians who live in

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<v Speaker 1>Costa Rica. I look, the US Department of States said

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty thousand private US citizens, many including

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<v Speaker 1>retirees like me and tourists, live in Costa Rica. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool. Twenty five percent of the land is conservation,

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<v Speaker 1>with twelve ecological zones over one hundred national parks, reserves

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<v Speaker 1>and protected lands. It was incredible, and the people there

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<v Speaker 1>I found to be very very friendly. The people are

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<v Speaker 1>very proud of their country. They're proud of their echodiversity,

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<v Speaker 1>the plants, the birds, the animals. Every morning, at seven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning on the radio, they play the

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<v Speaker 1>national anthem. Oh and I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard the national anthem of Costa Rica, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool national anthem. You get adjusted pretty quickly for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget bacon and eggs. You quickly learn to eat gallo pinto.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a breakfast breakfast staple essentially beans and rice.

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<v Speaker 2>Love it very good.

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<v Speaker 1>The people there I think are very healthy. Gallo pinto

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<v Speaker 1>means spotted rooster. I don't know why. Nobody could tell

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<v Speaker 1>me why, but it means spotted rooster. Of course, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as agriculture and horticulture are concerned. Coffee, rice, banana, sugarcane, beans, citrus, plantains,

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<v Speaker 1>which I found interesting stacy. You eat those for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>chopped up and fried and just like climatis or clematis.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people call them plantins and some people call them plantains.

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<v Speaker 2>Or platinos. If you're a goods.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go exactly, or platano, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 1>But pie, passion, fruit, dragon fruit, coconuts, pineapple, watermelon, cantaloup.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes on and on and Stacy. I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>both you and Adriana often on my trip because if

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<v Speaker 1>bird watching is a favorite pastime of yours, Costa Rica

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<v Speaker 1>is a must visit place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. There, I've read about so many different birding

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<v Speaker 2>excursions and hotels resorts that are specifically up in the

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<v Speaker 2>mountains for birding in it. It's definitely my dream to

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<v Speaker 2>do one of those one day. And you saw some amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Birds, amazing bird The two cans, of course, were just unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me back to my childhood when I eat fruit

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<v Speaker 1>loops for breakfast, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, Sam, So, were those just common, like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 2>another two can because you had multiple photos of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and no. It was more so when we got

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<v Speaker 1>into the rainforest area near the volcanoes. That's where I

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<v Speaker 1>really saw the two cans, the sloths, which were just amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I had some personal interaction with some snakes yikes, like

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<v Speaker 1>the eyelash eyelash pit viper. And this is a snake

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<v Speaker 1>that preys on hummingbirds. Oh no, yeah, ziplining saw you know.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you not to go ziplining because it's not

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<v Speaker 1>too safe. But it was fine, and I got up

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<v Speaker 1>close and personal with the birds, hummingbirds. There's a social

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<v Speaker 1>fly catcher called the kiss Kadi. I thought that bird

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<v Speaker 1>was beautiful and if you're watching on YouTube, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see a picture of that. I got a kick out

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<v Speaker 1>of these white throated magpies. They look like bluebirds. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not bluebirds, they look like blue jays with a little

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<v Speaker 1>tuft on their head. And of course in Costa Rica

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice and warm, so the restaurants are open air.

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<v Speaker 1>And every morning I'd watch these guys, the locals there

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<v Speaker 1>call them horakas, and these horakas would gather on tables

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<v Speaker 1>and railings outside of the restaurant and you'd watch them

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<v Speaker 1>have a little conference, a little meeting, and they would debate,

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<v Speaker 1>and then finally one of them would be knocked to

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<v Speaker 1>of food or snacks the haroca could find. And I

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<v Speaker 1>watched every morning someone would be pushed to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>The horocca would fly into the open air restaurant and

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<v Speaker 1>return about thirty seconds later with two sugar packets in

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<v Speaker 1>their mouth, and they would drop them on the floor

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<v Speaker 1>and then there'd just be an all out brawl. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>fight over the sugar, and then the whole thing would

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<v Speaker 1>repeat itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, not many places can boast free entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>at breakfast, so that is impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was fun for me. You know, I live

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan and enjoy the hummingbirds, the Baltimore Orioles in

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<v Speaker 1>spring and summer, and to see them vacationing down there

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<v Speaker 1>in Costa Rica was pretty cool. Speaking of flying, it

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<v Speaker 1>took four attempts to land the plane in Liberia.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh dear for a tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I didn't land the plane. It was the nice

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<v Speaker 1>Delta Airlines pilot who landed the plane due to debris

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<v Speaker 1>on the runway, potholes and torrential downpours. And that brings

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<v Speaker 1>me to my next point. If you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>out traveling and enjoying plants, my gim a rick for

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<v Speaker 1>the week. These are life hacks. You can use travel

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<v Speaker 1>on the shoulder seasons because you get better deals and

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<v Speaker 1>fewer crowds just don't go when the rainy season is

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to end torrential downpours, unbelievable tropical depression, Hurricane Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>And that leads me to my limb a rick for

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<v Speaker 1>the week. I had an inspiration, eureka, why not travel

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<v Speaker 1>to Costa Rica? Despite the rain? I went. The weather

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<v Speaker 1>did circumvent my route through Lovely Topeka. Actually I was

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<v Speaker 1>circumvented through Atlanta, but Atlanta doesn't rhyme with coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Of fair Enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thanks, as far as plant material is concerned, Bird

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<v Speaker 1>of Paradise is a big deal in Costa Rica. But

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<v Speaker 1>interestingly enough, it's really not bird of Paradise. It's heliconias.

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<v Speaker 1>Heliconias are native to Central and South America. Whereas the

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<v Speaker 1>bird of Paradise Strelitzia was a plant that I would

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<v Speaker 1>often bring up to the garden center. People love it.

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<v Speaker 1>The foliage looks like bananas. Same thing with the heliconia,

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<v Speaker 1>which the hummingbirds in Costa Rica just love. They call

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<v Speaker 1>it false bird of Paradise or Pico deloro parrots beak

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<v Speaker 1>because they do look like some of those toucans that

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<v Speaker 1>I pictures of the Tucans.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they do. You know, when I was at the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Botanical Garden, they had an incredible collection heliconias,

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<v Speaker 2>and the common name that they would usually put on

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<v Speaker 2>them was lobster claw.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, lobster claw, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is accurate as the parrots beak.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're right, yeah, just amazing the biodiversity in Costa Rica.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're into plants, you're into birds, I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>you go the Guanacosta Tree. What a huge crown on

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<v Speaker 1>that tree provides shade in the hot weather. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>refer to it as elephant ear tree because of the

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<v Speaker 1>seed pods. The blue water in the waterfalls in proximity

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<v Speaker 1>to the volcanoes in the northwestern province of Guanacosta just unreal,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean waterfalls in general. And then to see plants

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<v Speaker 1>like Philodendron cordatum just lining the walls, plants that I

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<v Speaker 1>used to sell in the garden center and hanging baskets

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<v Speaker 1>and just growing in the wild. I mentioned the coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>the landscape and the vistas. It's so diverse. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a really cool tree called sandpaper leaf. You grab the

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<v Speaker 1>foliage and it is as rough as sandpaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>The snakes, the sloths, the lizards on the roof on

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<v Speaker 1>the clay tile roof, the leaf cutter ants watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, those are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're fascinating. The monkeys I could not get used to

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<v Speaker 1>the howling monkeys or the howler monkeys. Man, do they

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<v Speaker 1>make a racket at dawn and at dusk? So the

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<v Speaker 1>papaya trees made me think of Steve Miller band. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I brought you a creative papayas chewing on sugarcane. So

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<v Speaker 1>the lawn and short of it is, if you get

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to go to Costa Rica, don't go during

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<v Speaker 1>the rainy season. Even though the rainforest was just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But I recommend that you not go during the rainy season.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a wonderful country, wonderful people and horticulturally agriculture birds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a paradise.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see an equal frogs?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, incredible frogs. As a matter of fact, we have

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<v Speaker 1>a picture for the YouTube version of the show. Got

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<v Speaker 1>up and up close and personal to sloth, snakes and

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gorgeous, unreal. So I recommend you make a trip

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<v Speaker 1>to Costa Rica and go to Topeka too if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it sounds great, but I'll tell you if I went,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would probably have to go for two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks because it would probably take me like an entire

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<v Speaker 2>day to go fifty yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable, It really is. It really is kid in a

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<v Speaker 1>candy store. Coming up next Adriana, we'll talk about Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Stacey will talk about Japan. That's on The Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Proven Winner's Color Choice Shrubs cares about your success in

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<v Speaker 2>the distinctive white container at your local garden center. Reading's

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<v Speaker 2>gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we are ripping up the script. We're doing things

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<v Speaker 2>totally different because all three of us have taken some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty amazing vacations. We've been lucky enough to do that

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<v Speaker 2>over the past couple of months, and we wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you about what we did and what we saw

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe get you inspired to take a vacation. Plant

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<v Speaker 2>based vacation of your own. So I am going to

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<v Speaker 2>hand it over to Adriana, who's going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>about her trip to Australia. But before I do that,

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to mention since we're talking about Adriana,

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<v Speaker 2>our editor and producer and who does all of our YouTube.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, this is a great episode to join us

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<v Speaker 2>for on YouTube because there are run me so many photos, videos,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that that we took of our vacation. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you were interested, it would definitely be a good

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<v Speaker 2>one to tune in. Just go to YouTube and type

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<v Speaker 2>in gardening some fun. Yes, all right, so let's kick

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<v Speaker 3>I visited Australia and Tasmania in October, so while that

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<v Speaker 3>was fall for us here in the Northern Hemisphere, it

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<v Speaker 3>was spring down there. The first stop that I made

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<v Speaker 3>was in Sydney, and in Sydney I have to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the jacaranda trees. The scientific name is Jacaranda mimosa folia. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's it, and it is in the family Bignoni a sea,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the trumpet vine family. These trees have been

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<v Speaker 3>growing steadily in Australia for around one hundred and fifty years.

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<v Speaker 3>They are not native to the area, they are originally

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<v Speaker 3>from parts of Central and South America, and they think

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<v Speaker 3>that the seeds were brought along with sea captains from

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<v Speaker 3>South America. This species epithet means having leaves like a mimosa,

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<v Speaker 3>and the leaves truly did look like a mimosa tree

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<v Speaker 2>the like you said. But the thing about Jackaranda and

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<v Speaker 3>Vivid, lavender blue flowers just lining the streets was incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>It almost looks like you're looking through a UV filter

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<v Speaker 3>like to say. In the Royal Botanic Gardens of Victoria,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are They're just like nothing else that you

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a genus in the Proteacea family with over

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<v Speaker 2>Fabulous, all of them fabulous.

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<v Speaker 3>Native to Australia and New Guinea, they can grow as

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<v Speaker 3>the area. Most of the species the flowers are quite distinguishable.

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<v Speaker 3>They're kind of like a bottle brush spiky cone of

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<v Speaker 3>So then the foliage size and structure will vary depending

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<v Speaker 3>genus in most cases. And the seed pods are really

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<v Speaker 3>unique looking. The old flower spikes commonly referred to as cones,

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<v Speaker 3>but they aren't technically cones botanically speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>But when they open, they kind of look like.

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<v Speaker 3>What I think of as a chorus of singing cartoon frogs.

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<v Speaker 2>And they are you can find them as ornamental plants

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<v Speaker 2>in the US, not in Michigan, of course, but you

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It was funny because when we were in Tasmania,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was overlooking what they call Wineglass Bay, so

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't likely to find the plant there. But so now

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<v Speaker 3>moving over to Tasmania. I love Tasmania. I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>describe it as Jurassic Park mixed with Scotland. It's this

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenal landscape. There were so many plants here it was

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<v Speaker 3>and so Eucalyptus is predominant everywhere in Australia and Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 3>giant esh, swamp gum, and stringygum. These are in the

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<v Speaker 3>meaning to rule, so they kind of rain over the

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<v Speaker 3>forest there. And it was really cool to see these.

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<v Speaker 3>was beautiful because you have these giant, towering Eucalyptus trees.

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<v Speaker 3>The understory is all rainforest, so just seeing them pop

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<v Speaker 3>up ever was absolutely phenomenal. The trunks are smooth with

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<v Speaker 3>a beautiful cream gray brown coloring.

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<v Speaker 2>And some flaky bark because that bark's gotta go somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>And those ones actually grow mostly in cool, mountainous rainy areas,

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<v Speaker 3>so fitting for the Huon Valley. And because these trees

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<v Speaker 3>want to tower over most of the rainforest understory plants,

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<v Speaker 3>they take on that live fast approach, so they grow

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<v Speaker 3>very fast when they're young and then they kind of

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<v Speaker 3>peter out as they get a little older. But when

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<v Speaker 3>they're young, they'll grow from one to two meters or three.

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<v Speaker 2>To seven feet per year. WHOA yeah, fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But unfortunately these trees are quite susceptible to fire,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had actually had a fire in recent years

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<v Speaker 3>that you could see the damage from some of those

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<v Speaker 3>older mature trees. On the flip side. Moving on from

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<v Speaker 3>the eucalyptus is the huon pine with a very fun

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<v Speaker 2>I practiced them one.

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<v Speaker 3>Unlike Mountnash or swamp gum, which is a eucalyptus, the

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<v Speaker 3>huon pine takes the slow and steady approach to life.

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<v Speaker 3>So this long lived tree is only native to the

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<v Speaker 3>wet rainforests of Tasmania, so it felt really special to

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<v Speaker 3>to the land. It's not actually a pine but a

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<v Speaker 3>conifer in the Podocarpesi family. Some have grown to be

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<v Speaker 3>over two thousand years old, making them some of the

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<v Speaker 3>oldest living organisms.

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<v Speaker 2>On the planet. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And because they're so old, their tree rings have

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<v Speaker 3>throughout ers, which I thought was pretty cool. And then

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<v Speaker 3>another fun fact is that it's highly prized for its

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<v Speaker 3>it impervious to insects and also quite waterproof.

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<v Speaker 2>So the high oil content also.

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<v Speaker 3>Allows the wood to bend easier, all of these characteristics

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<v Speaker 3>making it great for making boats. It was a sought

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<v Speaker 3>after lumber back in the day, so they were just

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<v Speaker 3>cutting these trees down until they kind of realized, wait,

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<v Speaker 3>these things grow pretty slow. Oh, and they take a

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<v Speaker 3>was a consensus that it is not sustainable to cut

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<v Speaker 3>down thousand year ols' trees, and they have since stopped

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thank goodness. Yeah, someone learns a lesson.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, those were definitely some of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the fauna and flora down there is absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw little blue penguins which were amazing, and I

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<v Speaker 3>did cry walla, thees wombats, kangaroos, the birds were incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a phenomenal time and I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 3>anyone who was interested in nature to absolutely visit Australia

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<v Speaker 3>and Tasmania.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I hear you on that one, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Tasmania is not as like a place where I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think people really prioritize for visiting Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, honestly, you are the one who informed

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<v Speaker 3>and I started looking it up and everything. It is

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<v Speaker 3>just such a such a beautiful place. Everyone is so friendly.

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<v Speaker 3>We stayed in Hobart, which is a really cool old town,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just incredible to see the variation of

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<v Speaker 3>the natural landscape around there, from rainforest to dry eucalyptus

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<v Speaker 2>To the coast and caves. It was just absolutely amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>and all on a relatively compact island.

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<v Speaker 3>Relatively compact island, I think it takes around four hours

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<v Speaker 2>The other, unless you're stopping for every bird.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that, all right. So that's a Dana's recap

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<v Speaker 2>of Australia. When we come back, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you my recap of Japan at proven Winter's Color Choice.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a shrub for every taste and every space.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're looking for an easy care rose and unforgettable

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<v Speaker 2>hydrangea or something new and unique. You can be confident

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<v Speaker 2>that the shrubs and the white containers have been trialed

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<v Speaker 2>and tested for your success. Look for them at your

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<v Speaker 2>local garden center. Greeting's Gardening friends, and welcome back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gardening Simplified Show. Like I said, we're ripping up

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<v Speaker 2>the script today, doing things a little bit different, although

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back to our normal format next week, but

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<v Speaker 2>we wanted to just share with you because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we travel for plants, we travel for food, we travel

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<v Speaker 2>for experience, but you know, plants and gardens are a

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<v Speaker 2>huge reason why I travel. And of course when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to garden destinations, I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>know that Japan is sort of, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the places to go to see gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. I want to go some day.

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<v Speaker 2>You should go. It's a long flight, but it's absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>worth it. Now this was actually not my first time

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to see gardens in Japan, like

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<v Speaker 2>the classic Japanese gardens, you have to go to Kyoto

419
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<v Speaker 2>that is really where all of these really famous, well

420
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<v Speaker 2>known gardens are. Kyoto is actually spared bombing in World

421
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<v Speaker 2>War two, so these really old gardens have actually persisted,

422
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<v Speaker 2>whereas Tokyo was completely destroyed in World War two and

423
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<v Speaker 2>so had to rebuild. So you don't see as many

424
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<v Speaker 2>of those older gardens as many of those venerable old trees,

425
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<v Speaker 2>although there certainly are some. But this time we did

426
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<v Speaker 2>just go to Tokyo, and I saw a lot of

427
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<v Speaker 2>really cool plants. But I honestly think that one of

428
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<v Speaker 2>the coolest things, and this was true in Kyoto as

429
00:23:24.359 --> 00:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>it was in Tokyo, is that, you know, the Japanese

430
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<v Speaker 2>culture is just really just I don't even want to

431
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<v Speaker 2>say like plant focused. It's just that nature and plants

432
00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and the seasonal cycles are just such an intrinsic part

433
00:23:41.000 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 2>of Japanese culture and eating and everything, and so it's

434
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<v Speaker 2>just like there's this natural respect there for plants that

435
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:52.519
<v Speaker 2>is really lacking in a lot of places. And it

436
00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:54.839
<v Speaker 2>really shows in the fact that even in Tokyo, which

437
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<v Speaker 2>is considered the most populous city in the world, huge city,

438
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<v Speaker 2>I think there's like thirty six million people that live there.

439
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<v Speaker 2>Any neighborhood street that you walk down, you see people

440
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<v Speaker 2>create these little tiny container gardens outside of their homes

441
00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:11.000
<v Speaker 2>and apartments, and I have some pictures of these. They

442
00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>just take a little assemblage of plants and put them

443
00:24:13.759 --> 00:24:15.519
<v Speaker 2>out there for people to see and to kind of

444
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:19.359
<v Speaker 2>express themselves. And so you're really seeing these like miniature

445
00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:21.640
<v Speaker 2>gardens everywhere that you go.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. I've seen that from friends in Japan. There is

447
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<v Speaker 1>just this appreciation for plant.

448
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you don't have to like go to a

449
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<v Speaker 2>park or anything to see this, and that was a

450
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:34.839
<v Speaker 2>very cool thing. So I have some pictures of that.

451
00:24:36.079 --> 00:24:37.519
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like where do I even start. We

452
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<v Speaker 2>did visit some gardens, and the gardens in Japan typically

453
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<v Speaker 2>are either associated with a temple or shrine or are

454
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<v Speaker 2>like a historic park, part of a kessel, or a

455
00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:51.200
<v Speaker 2>former samurai estate as well. So I think my favorite

456
00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.079
<v Speaker 2>garden that we visited in Tokyo was Hamriiku Gardens, which

457
00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:57.559
<v Speaker 2>was a former samurai estate. It just had a lot

458
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<v Speaker 2>of really cool features and things like that, and one

459
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<v Speaker 2>of the things that it had were these seasonal beds

460
00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>of annuals and there was a couple of them, some

461
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>of them were bare or had plants just getting started.

462
00:25:10.799 --> 00:25:12.680
<v Speaker 2>But what was at peak when we were there was

463
00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:16.599
<v Speaker 2>a huge planting of cosmos sulfurious. So a lot of

464
00:25:16.640 --> 00:25:20.559
<v Speaker 2>people know cosmos popular plant and cosmos sulfurious rather than

465
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<v Speaker 2>the typical pinks and white that you have in the cosmos.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Most people think of is as you might guess, with

467
00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the sulfurious yellow and orange. So there were these huge

468
00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:35.079
<v Speaker 2>beds of yellow and orange cosmos and they were just,

469
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, what's the verb that I even used to

470
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.720
<v Speaker 2>describe it, just teeming with butterflies. I mean, I've never

471
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 2>seen so many butterflies in my entire life. And I

472
00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>took a video of it doesn't do it justice, but

473
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 2>as you said, they're looking at this flower field full

474
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:52.640
<v Speaker 2>of cosmos. I mean, there was just thousands of butterflies

475
00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:56.599
<v Speaker 2>of different species everywhere, and it made it so magical

476
00:25:56.680 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and so interesting. So that was definitely a highlight, even

477
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<v Speaker 2>though I think that a lot of people don't think

478
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<v Speaker 2>of Japanese gardens as places to see flowers per se.

479
00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's gonna be hydrange as, there's gonna be camellias,

480
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:10.119
<v Speaker 2>that kind of thing, but I don't think most people

481
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.160
<v Speaker 2>think of them as like the traditional flower garden.

482
00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, more so evergreens, bones eye, Japanese maples.

483
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Yep, exactly. Another really cool thing that I saw. And

484
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.279
<v Speaker 2>this I'm not gonna call it a weed because it

485
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.240
<v Speaker 2>is native to Japan and grows everywhere. And this is

486
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.839
<v Speaker 2>the first time I saw it, So even though last

487
00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:28.720
<v Speaker 2>time I was in Japan was also in the fall,

488
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I had never seen this plant. And the plant is

489
00:26:32.839 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Trichosanthe's pulosa, also known as the Japanese snake gord. Now,

490
00:26:39.559 --> 00:26:41.839
<v Speaker 2>the first time I saw this, we were just walking

491
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<v Speaker 2>on the street kind of getting from one area to another,

492
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>and we're just in transit. Basically, it was hot, it

493
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>was humid, I was getting tired and a little cranky maybe,

494
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 2>and there was just this sort of like railroad station

495
00:26:54.839 --> 00:26:56.880
<v Speaker 2>with this vine growing all over it. And you have

496
00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.759
<v Speaker 2>to see these flowers to believe them. They are so

497
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>in it. There are just hundreds of little filaments that

498
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.279
<v Speaker 2>start all curled up into the plant and then they

499
00:27:07.319 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>just unfurl into this like a magical undersea creature looking

500
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>flower that is just beautiful, pure white. And then when

501
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:18.519
<v Speaker 2>the flower matures, it becomes the snake gord, which does

502
00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.160
<v Speaker 2>not actually look like a snake. There are, of course

503
00:27:20.200 --> 00:27:22.759
<v Speaker 2>those long snake gords that you see, but this is

504
00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>just kind of a small, round, orange red fruit. And

505
00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>it turns out this is like a very kind of

506
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>poignant association with autumn in Japan, and I actually bought

507
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a piece of fabric that had them printed on there,

508
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>and it's really so just a special thing that I

509
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:43.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was just growing unattended and just really

510
00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 2>really cool to see. So I definitely want to grow

511
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>that from seed to kind of connect to that memory,

512
00:27:49.240 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 2>and also because it is just incredibly, incredibly beautiful. You know,

513
00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the plants that we grow in our

514
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 2>gardens are actually native to Japan, and so it's very different,

515
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, seeing them in place where they're native,

516
00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:06.559
<v Speaker 2>even if they're in a cultivated area like a garden.

517
00:28:06.680 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 2>And one of those that I saw that was at

518
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:13.440
<v Speaker 2>absolute peak was triceurtus, also known as totally very popular

519
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 2>autumn flowering perennial for shade, moist shade, and you know,

520
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>in every garden that we went to and in many

521
00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 2>of those little residential gardens that I mentioned, it was

522
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:25.920
<v Speaker 2>in full bloom and just so so pretty and again

523
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>just such a great association really with autumn. And you know,

524
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I thought of you Rick, because lots of miss canthus.

525
00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh loves fall, you know, so plenty of miss canthus

526
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>everywhere in flower and just that beautiful, silky, you know,

527
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 2>tassel flower that they get. So you'll see some pictures

528
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 2>from Shinjuku go In, which is the National Garden in Tokyo,

529
00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>sort of around this beautifully landscaped pond with you know,

530
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 2>cloud prune trees and I'll talk more about cloud pruning

531
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>in a moment. And yeah, the miss canthus was just

532
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:04.440
<v Speaker 2>at peak and looking gorgeous, fantastic, So shouldn'tchuku In is

533
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a really special place. I saw so many amazing trees.

534
00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:09.599
<v Speaker 2>And it's always funny. I think, like when you go

535
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.279
<v Speaker 2>to another country and see a North American native and

536
00:29:13.319 --> 00:29:16.039
<v Speaker 2>you're like, whoa, that's so cool. And for me on

537
00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:19.039
<v Speaker 2>this trip, that was actually seeing our native bald snipers

538
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Taxodium disticum growing in chin Juko go In with the

539
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>coolest news. You know how the taxodium gets the woody

540
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>protuberances because it grows in wet soil, so it does

541
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>the it creates these knobby looking things. Yeah, yeah, to

542
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>be able to get some oxygen. And the coolest planting

543
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I think I've ever seen was actually in Japan, So

544
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:43.839
<v Speaker 2>there's a picture of that on YouTube and ginko. So

545
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was there in the last half of October,

546
00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.759
<v Speaker 2>and so it was really too early for fall color.

547
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yet you know here in Michigan that I missed peak

548
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>fall color here in Michigan and didn't quite get it

549
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>in Tokyo, they were still probably a good month away

550
00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:01.960
<v Speaker 2>from developed fall color. So the ginkos didn't have their

551
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 2>gorgeous gold fall color. But what they did have is fruit,

552
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of fruits. Now, if you're not familiar

553
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:16.720
<v Speaker 2>with ginko fruit, it stinks real bad. It smells as

554
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 2>when the fruit falls off the trees, it sits on

555
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the street or whatever sidewalk, gets stepped on ferments in

556
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:26.759
<v Speaker 2>the sun and starts to smell like vomit. The seeds

557
00:30:26.759 --> 00:30:30.039
<v Speaker 2>are edible, and we were served them at many different restaurants.

558
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 2>They're actually quite good, kind of like a nut. But yeah,

559
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the US now basically all of our

560
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.720
<v Speaker 2>ginkgos are grafted, so you're only getting a male ginko,

561
00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>so you don't have to worry about those smelly fruits

562
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 2>coming everywhere. You will still see them sometimes in cities

563
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>like I know in New York, Like in older parks,

564
00:30:47.480 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>you would still see some female ginkos. But ginkos have

565
00:30:50.079 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>basically been grafted in the US to be only male

566
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>since probably the nineteen seventies or thereabouts, but not in Tokyo.

567
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Lots of female ginkos everywhere. That made a little memorable

568
00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 2>smell memory for a trip.

569
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:06.039
<v Speaker 1>So it was too early for the ginkos to be

570
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>brilliant yellow, yes, okay.

571
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.279
<v Speaker 2>But definitely peak fruit season, sir. And it was hot

572
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.799
<v Speaker 2>and humid, so you can imagine the combination of all

573
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of those things. So Tokyo is home to the Japanese

574
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 2>Imperial Palace, which is of course a big tourist attraction there,

575
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:23.519
<v Speaker 2>and you know, of course we were going to go there.

576
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.799
<v Speaker 2>But what I was not prepared for with the Imperial

577
00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Palace is that it is just surrounded by acres and

578
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 2>acres of cloud pruned Pina sunburgii or Japanese black pine.

579
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>And when I say cloud prune, so you might not

580
00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>be familiar with this term, but cloud pruning is basically

581
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.799
<v Speaker 2>the term that describes the way we all think of

582
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>like the way a Japanese tree is pruned, you know,

583
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>with that very meticulous it's called cloud pruning because the

584
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 2>foliage is all on the upper side of the branch,

585
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of hanging over it like a cloud. It's pretty

586
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>labor intensive. You do have to start from a young

587
00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>age for the tree, not for the person pruning it.

588
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>And every single year you have to go in and

589
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you have to do what's called cutting the candles. So

590
00:32:05.039 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, pines put these candles out. You have to

591
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 2>go in and cut them at a certain point so

592
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:11.519
<v Speaker 2>that they will continue to grow in the direction that

593
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 2>you want them to. And I mean the Imperial Palace.

594
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:17.920
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even begin to fathom a number of pines

595
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 2>surrounding this place. It would have to be I mean,

596
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:25.079
<v Speaker 2>it would have to be twenty thousand or more. And

597
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I just cannot even imagine the labor that goes into it.

598
00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>And its timing is super crucial for cloud burning. You

599
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>can't just say, oh, yeah, we'll get to that in

600
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:36.519
<v Speaker 2>a month. You know, you have to get it when

601
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 2>the candles are at a certain stage. So it was

602
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 2>really just I think an incredible monument to the effort

603
00:32:43.440 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that goes into gardening what it means to really, you know,

604
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:51.039
<v Speaker 2>take care of something and have a vision for a

605
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.720
<v Speaker 2>garden or a plant. And yeah, it was just an incredible,

606
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.720
<v Speaker 2>incredible experience and great food, great people. I loved every

607
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>single minute of it, despite the heat and humidity which

608
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:06.359
<v Speaker 2>is a little bit extremely So we're going to take

609
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a little break when we come back. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>answer some gardening questions before we wrap the show, so

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome back once again to the Gardening Simplified Show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we always say that we love answering your

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<v Speaker 2>gardening questions. That's one of the ways that we try

620
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<v Speaker 2>to simplify gardening for you here on The Gardening Simplified Show,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why in this vacation themed show, we are

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<v Speaker 2>devoting at least one segment to answering all those burning

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<v Speaker 2>gardening questions out there, even though I think here in

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan this season is officially at it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Ad and end, but we can dream at Christmas time.

626
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<v Speaker 1>And I love the fact that you go to Japan

627
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<v Speaker 1>and you get some beautiful fabric of a snake gorg. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I go to Costa Rica and I

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<v Speaker 1>end up in one of those touristy shops and get

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<v Speaker 1>this cheap taki shirt that you see me wearing here.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it. Do you like it a lot? Yeah?

632
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>And Adriana did get a clip on Koala that did

633
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<v Speaker 2>not make it on air this time, but it's out there.

634
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:32.639
<v Speaker 2>It's out there, so wonderful. But anyway, if you have

635
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<v Speaker 2>a gardening question for us, we know that just because

636
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<v Speaker 2>the gardening season might end, your questions don't and we

637
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>answer questions about indoor plants and that kind of thing

638
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<v Speaker 2>as well. So you can reach us at Gardening Simplified

639
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<v Speaker 2>on air dot com. There is a contact form there

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<v Speaker 2>you can fill that out. You can even attach a

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<v Speaker 2>photo if you'd like, and explain your issue and we

642
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<v Speaker 2>would be glad to answer your question on the air

643
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<v Speaker 2>if we can.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or send pictures of your garden this past year

645
00:34:56.960 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>and dream with us.

646
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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's such a good idea, because, yeah, it

647
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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit of a waste until next season.

648
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<v Speaker 2>You don't tend to notice that in the holidays because

649
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 2>you got a lot to think about, But once January hits,

650
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<v Speaker 2>you're kind of like, m oh boy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Stacy Tina writes to us, Hi, Rick and Stacy,

652
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<v Speaker 1>I loved listening to your show. I learned so much.

653
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I've had this dilemma over a Wjila am I saying that? Right? Yeah?

654
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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

655
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've talked about that.

656
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Well. It is one of the ones that trips people up.

657
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>It has grown way larger than I thought it would,

658
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:30.840
<v Speaker 1>But I do not know the name. You can see

659
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>that it says tall as the house, or it's as

660
00:35:34.360 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>tall as the house. I've trimmed on it occasionally, but

661
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:41.119
<v Speaker 1>it just seems to keep growing. How far down can

662
00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>I trim it without killing it? I hardly ever see blooms,

663
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<v Speaker 1>so that doesn't matter if they don't come back for

664
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<v Speaker 1>a while. It's on the south side of the house.

665
00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:52.679
<v Speaker 1>Plenty of sun trying to take over Northwest Florida's Zone eight.

666
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<v Speaker 1>Be any suggestion.

667
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So the answer is in the question this time,

668
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<v Speaker 2>interestingly enough, So what's happening here, Tina? Is that your

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<v Speaker 2>why gela is not flowering because it's just too darn hot.

670
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Why Gela is one of those plants like lilac or

671
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.639
<v Speaker 2>apple that actually needs a period of cool temperatures, cold

672
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<v Speaker 2>temperatures in order to set its flower buds for the

673
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<v Speaker 2>following year, And in your Florida USA Zone eight B,

674
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<v Speaker 2>that is just not happening. So that's why it's not flowering.

675
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, in that case, I would potentially, I mean,

676
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why you're growing it, or what you're

677
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<v Speaker 2>hoping for it to sort of accomplish, or what kind

678
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>of role you wanted to fill in your landscape. But

679
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<v Speaker 2>if you wanted flowers and it's not doing that and

680
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not looking good, I would say just go ahead

681
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<v Speaker 2>and take it out.

682
00:36:44.639 --> 00:36:47.119
<v Speaker 1>I would agree. But now you're not going to kill

683
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it by pruning it, that's for sure. They respond well

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<v Speaker 1>to pruning.

685
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:53.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, and so on that same note, if you

686
00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>do want to just keep it and give it a

687
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>new lease on life, there, you can pretty much prune it.

688
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't print it flesh with the ground, but you

689
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.400
<v Speaker 2>can certainly prune it to just a couple of inches

690
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.920
<v Speaker 2>above the ground. Get a chainsaw or some heavy duty

691
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>looppers or a handsaw. It is gonna probably be a

692
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<v Speaker 2>big job having such a large, mature one like this,

693
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>but you can take that down to just three inch

694
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>stubs and it will start to come back and the

695
00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 2>foliage will be fresh. And you can do this with

696
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>almost all shrubs, or some shrubs that take to it

697
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:26.559
<v Speaker 2>better than others. I know, for example, that elderberry doesn't

698
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>take to this very well, but why Gila is one.

699
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 2>It certainly does. And that's called a rejuvenation pruning, and

700
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that'll give you a fresh start. Or if you know

701
00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>someone with a pickup truck and got a strong metal chain,

702
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:39.239
<v Speaker 2>then maybe it's time to just pull it out and

703
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 2>put in something, you know, that's a little bit more Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>Take advantage of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Stacey, you say that so nicely. A rejuvenation pruning.

706
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>In the industry, we'd call that a hack job. But

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00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 1>either way you get there, I recommend it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess you know. Hackjob is what you say

709
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 2>to the other people on your team. Rejuvenation pruning is

710
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:04.719
<v Speaker 2>what you say to a client a little bit nicer. Now. Interestingly,

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<v Speaker 2>now that it's December, we had a number of questions

712
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>about Holly, so I think people are getting ready to

713
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 2>deck the hull. So our next two questions are two

714
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 2>different questions about Holly.

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<v Speaker 1>I see that, Stacy. Christine wrote to us from Quebec, Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Bou sure, Christine, so Christine says, First, I love your show,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Christine. Second, I bought a very heavy gold winter

718
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 1>berry on a whim at the end of season clearance sale.

719
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<v Speaker 1>Don't you just love it? I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a beautiful plant.

721
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<v Speaker 1>End of season bargains, and yes, beautiful. It came in

722
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<v Speaker 1>a pot with a Mister Poppins winter berry. Since it

723
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<v Speaker 1>was mid November, I just planted the whole thing, both

724
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.519
<v Speaker 1>the female and male, into a single hole come spring.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I separate the two shrubs and move mister Poppins

726
00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.559
<v Speaker 1>away to give them space to grow or do I

727
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:57.960
<v Speaker 1>just let them grow together? I couldn't find any information

728
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<v Speaker 1>on the plant tag or PW website. Thanks Barry mulch,

729
00:39:03.199 --> 00:39:06.760
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't say that, Christine said that. Good job, Christine. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>He went for the double pun, the rare double pun

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<v Speaker 2>I love it so Christine. This is interesting because it

732
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<v Speaker 2>is not typically sold that way. There's certainly no issue

733
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<v Speaker 2>really with it being sold. Obviously it's much more convenient,

734
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 2>not just for you, but for the garden center as well,

735
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<v Speaker 2>because you know it can be difficult you could to

736
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.119
<v Speaker 2>maintain adequate stock of both plants, the male and the female.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course Holly needs both a male plant and

738
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a female plant, and only the female will set berries.

739
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<v Speaker 2>But I would say you did the right thing by

740
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<v Speaker 2>going ahead and planting it now together. But I would

741
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.159
<v Speaker 2>definitely separate these outcomes spring. And here is the reason why.

742
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<v Speaker 2>In this case, very heavy gold, fabulous plant, just so

743
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:52.760
<v Speaker 2>unique and so beautiful, is going to get to be

744
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<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't check the height before I came here,

745
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:58.920
<v Speaker 2>but a good eight feet tall, if not bigger. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>mister Poppins is actually a dwarf variety. And so what

747
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:06.519
<v Speaker 2>is likely to happen is that since the female is

748
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<v Speaker 2>larger and probably more vigorous, it's very likely to shade

749
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 2>out the male, and if the male is in too

750
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<v Speaker 2>much shade, it won't flower, it won't pollinate the female,

751
00:40:16.519 --> 00:40:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and it will just end up kind of disappearing and

752
00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:22.079
<v Speaker 2>negating its point of being in the same pot with

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00:40:22.719 --> 00:40:25.440
<v Speaker 2>the very heavy gold in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree they can enjoy the holidays together and the

755
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:35.320
<v Speaker 1>holly days together. But I agree next year, let's separate

756
00:40:35.360 --> 00:40:37.639
<v Speaker 1>the two. Not too far, but let's separate.

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<v Speaker 3>The two, right.

758
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<v Speaker 2>And you know, Christine did say within fifty feet of

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<v Speaker 2>each other, and that is what we recommend. That is

760
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<v Speaker 2>what university is recommend because that is the average distance

761
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<v Speaker 2>you can expect a pollinating insect to fly on its

762
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<v Speaker 2>foraging trips to ensure pollination. So go for that splitting

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<v Speaker 2>come spring, Christine, and enjoy two fibulous plants.

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<v Speaker 1>I love this question from Penny writes to us. I

765
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<v Speaker 1>have three miniature eyes ilex rock garden plants. They seldom berry.

766
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:08.599
<v Speaker 1>What male pollinator should I get? My two red sprites

767
00:41:08.719 --> 00:41:13.880
<v Speaker 1>don't have a male pollinator, and they are exceptional. You know,

768
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<v Speaker 1>this particular plant being a smaller plant. I was visiting

769
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<v Speaker 1>Isley Nursery in Oregon.

770
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<v Speaker 2>Such a they have such amazing plants.

771
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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. And they had these growing in troughs and containers.

772
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<v Speaker 1>What an interesting plant?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it is so a lot of people aren't

774
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<v Speaker 2>familiar with this it's certainly not common. You aren't going

775
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<v Speaker 2>to just see this at your run of the mill

776
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:43.000
<v Speaker 2>garden center. But it is a very dwarf holly with

777
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 2>small leaves, small thick, pointy leaves. And yeah, it's called

778
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>rock garden because it's the kind of plant that you

779
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:50.039
<v Speaker 2>put in a rock garden. Just grows as a nice

780
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of little tough itt. As I was reading about

781
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.480
<v Speaker 2>it and preparing for the show, grows about one inch

782
00:41:56.679 --> 00:41:57.039
<v Speaker 2>a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

784
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That is some slow growing, slow growing plants right there, Patients,

785
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>is a fact, which is great, you know. It's it's

786
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of nice to have something that you don't have

787
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.599
<v Speaker 2>to worry about overgrowing its space at least in your lifetime,

788
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. But one thing that's interesting is so rock

789
00:42:14.599 --> 00:42:17.679
<v Speaker 2>garden is indeed a female holly, so you have the

790
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>potential for berries. But I have to say, in every

791
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<v Speaker 2>single source that I looked at through like the first

792
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>three pages of Google, I did not find a single

793
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>recommended male pollinator for this plant.

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00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you if you could put

795
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>like a large castle wall holly somewhere in the yard,

796
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.119
<v Speaker 1>whether or not it would work, right.

797
00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.360
<v Speaker 2>So the tricky thing here is that I not only

798
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<v Speaker 2>did I not find a specific male pollinator recommended, but

799
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<v Speaker 2>even really reputable sites like the Missouri Botanic Garden just

800
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<v Speaker 2>said it's a hybrid holly, like they didn't say it's

801
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<v Speaker 2>a blue holly, or it's an English holly, or it's

802
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:55.440
<v Speaker 2>any kind of specific holly. And the key to holly

803
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 2>pollination there's two crucial things. Number one, they have to

804
00:42:59.519 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 2>be of the same species so that genetics are compatible.

805
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 2>And number two, they have to flower at the same time,

806
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:06.599
<v Speaker 2>the male and the female, because of course, if the

807
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:09.079
<v Speaker 2>bloom times don't overlap exactly, you're not going to get

808
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.440
<v Speaker 2>full pollination. So it's interesting that your red sprites are

809
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 2>doing so well. Red sprite is a winterbury holly, like

810
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the same kind that Christine was asking about, So this

811
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of loses its foliage in in winter. So what's

812
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>happening there? If you live in a neighborhood, is your

813
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:28.440
<v Speaker 2>neighbor or perhaps if you're out in the wild, a

814
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>wild specimen is just pollinating those. But there is nothing

815
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.079
<v Speaker 2>around for your rock garden holly. And I'm not sure

816
00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly what I would recommend, since I wasn't able to

817
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:39.960
<v Speaker 2>find at least the species part. But yeah, I think

818
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 2>that a blue holly like castle Wall would be a

819
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:44.679
<v Speaker 2>good start. But the only thing that concerns me with

820
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.320
<v Speaker 2>that is I feel like there's such common landscape plants

821
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 2>blue holly that if that could do the trick, probably

822
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:57.119
<v Speaker 2>a neighbor's blue holly would potentially already keep dollinating pennies.

823
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. I think the timing thing, you're right on,

824
00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's the problem.

825
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.159
<v Speaker 2>It could be timing. The other thing is rock garden

826
00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 2>holly is not the hardiest of holly's, probably due to

827
00:44:06.960 --> 00:44:10.360
<v Speaker 2>its hybrid nature. So another possibility is that the flowers

828
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:12.880
<v Speaker 2>are just being lost to cold. You know, that the

829
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 2>winter is killing the flower buds without actually harming the plant.

830
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So I would say look for those flowers to appear.

831
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<v Speaker 2>If you have a friend who has a male blue holly,

832
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:25.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe get a little clipping of it when

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<v Speaker 2>it's in flower, put it next to this one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just in a little vase or you know, jar or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that to keep it hydrated and see if

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<v Speaker 2>that works. Sometimes you just got a experiment. So we

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<v Speaker 2>want to thank Adriana and Rick for sharing their incredible

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<v Speaker 2>vacation experiences and thank you all so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We truly appreciate you and hope you have a wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>week ahead.
