Speaker 1: Coming to you from Studio A here at Proven Winners
Speaker 1: Color Choice Shrubs. It's time for the Gardening Simplified radio
Speaker 1: podcast and YouTube show with Stacey Hervella Me, Rick weisst
Speaker 1: and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well. Over the
Speaker 1: past few weeks, the Gardening Simplified Show has gone on
Speaker 1: the road. We've gone our separate ways on trips, and
Speaker 1: today we'll share some of those adventures with you. Stacey
Speaker 1: went to Japan, Adriana went to Australia, and I went
Speaker 1: to Costa Rica now Putavida. It's pure life. What a
Speaker 1: wonderful life it is. I loved Costa Rica. It was great.
Speaker 2: I have heard great things. I have also had people
Speaker 2: say to me, if you go to Costa Rica, they're
Speaker 2: going to have to drag you away because they're going
Speaker 2: to go crazy from all the plants.
Speaker 1: And there are many Americans, many Canadians who live in
Speaker 1: Costa Rica. I look, the US Department of States said
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty thousand private US citizens, many including
Speaker 1: retirees like me and tourists, live in Costa Rica. So
Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Twenty five percent of the land is conservation,
Speaker 1: with twelve ecological zones over one hundred national parks, reserves
Speaker 1: and protected lands. It was incredible, and the people there
Speaker 1: I found to be very very friendly. The people are
Speaker 1: very proud of their country. They're proud of their echodiversity,
Speaker 1: the plants, the birds, the animals. Every morning, at seven
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning on the radio, they play the
Speaker 1: national anthem. Oh and I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: heard the national anthem of Costa Rica, but it's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool national anthem. You get adjusted pretty quickly for breakfast.
Speaker 1: Forget bacon and eggs. You quickly learn to eat gallo pinto.
Speaker 1: It's a breakfast breakfast staple essentially beans and rice.
Speaker 2: Love it very good.
Speaker 1: The people there I think are very healthy. Gallo pinto
Speaker 1: means spotted rooster. I don't know why. Nobody could tell
Speaker 1: me why, but it means spotted rooster. Of course, as
Speaker 1: far as agriculture and horticulture are concerned. Coffee, rice, banana, sugarcane, beans, citrus, plantains,
Speaker 1: which I found interesting stacy. You eat those for breakfast,
Speaker 1: chopped up and fried and just like climatis or clematis.
Speaker 1: Some people call them plantins and some people call them plantains.
Speaker 2: Or platinos. If you're a goods.
Speaker 1: There you go exactly, or platano, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: But pie, passion, fruit, dragon fruit, coconuts, pineapple, watermelon, cantaloup.
Speaker 1: It goes on and on and Stacy. I thought of
Speaker 1: both you and Adriana often on my trip because if
Speaker 1: bird watching is a favorite pastime of yours, Costa Rica
Speaker 1: is a must visit place.
Speaker 2: You know. There, I've read about so many different birding
Speaker 2: excursions and hotels resorts that are specifically up in the
Speaker 2: mountains for birding in it. It's definitely my dream to
Speaker 2: do one of those one day. And you saw some amazing.
Speaker 1: Birds, amazing bird The two cans, of course, were just unreal.
Speaker 1: Tell me back to my childhood when I eat fruit
Speaker 1: loops for breakfast, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Sam, So, were those just common, like, oh, there's
Speaker 2: another two can because you had multiple photos of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no. It was more so when we got
Speaker 1: into the rainforest area near the volcanoes. That's where I
Speaker 1: really saw the two cans, the sloths, which were just amazing.
Speaker 1: I had some personal interaction with some snakes yikes, like
Speaker 1: the eyelash eyelash pit viper. And this is a snake
Speaker 1: that preys on hummingbirds. Oh no, yeah, ziplining saw you know.
Speaker 1: They tell you not to go ziplining because it's not
Speaker 1: too safe. But it was fine, and I got up
Speaker 1: close and personal with the birds, hummingbirds. There's a social
Speaker 1: fly catcher called the kiss Kadi. I thought that bird
Speaker 1: was beautiful and if you're watching on YouTube, you can
Speaker 1: see a picture of that. I got a kick out
Speaker 1: of these white throated magpies. They look like bluebirds. No,
Speaker 1: not bluebirds, they look like blue jays with a little
Speaker 1: tuft on their head. And of course in Costa Rica
Speaker 1: it's nice and warm, so the restaurants are open air.
Speaker 1: And every morning I'd watch these guys, the locals there
Speaker 1: call them horakas, and these horakas would gather on tables
Speaker 1: and railings outside of the restaurant and you'd watch them
Speaker 1: have a little conference, a little meeting, and they would debate,
Speaker 1: and then finally one of them would be knocked to
Speaker 1: the ground, and I guess that's the designated hraka to
Speaker 1: make a venture into the restaurant to see what kind
Speaker 1: of food or snacks the haroca could find. And I
Speaker 1: watched every morning someone would be pushed to the ground.
Speaker 1: The horocca would fly into the open air restaurant and
Speaker 1: return about thirty seconds later with two sugar packets in
Speaker 1: their mouth, and they would drop them on the floor
Speaker 1: and then there'd just be an all out brawl. They'd
Speaker 1: fight over the sugar, and then the whole thing would
Speaker 1: repeat itself.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, not many places can boast free entertainment
Speaker 2: at breakfast, so that is impressive.
Speaker 1: But it was fun for me. You know, I live
Speaker 1: in Michigan and enjoy the hummingbirds, the Baltimore Orioles in
Speaker 1: spring and summer, and to see them vacationing down there
Speaker 1: in Costa Rica was pretty cool. Speaking of flying, it
Speaker 1: took four attempts to land the plane in Liberia.
Speaker 2: Oh dear for a tech.
Speaker 1: Now, I didn't land the plane. It was the nice
Speaker 1: Delta Airlines pilot who landed the plane due to debris
Speaker 1: on the runway, potholes and torrential downpours. And that brings
Speaker 1: me to my next point. If you're going to go
Speaker 1: out traveling and enjoying plants, my gim a rick for
Speaker 1: the week. These are life hacks. You can use travel
Speaker 1: on the shoulder seasons because you get better deals and
Speaker 1: fewer crowds just don't go when the rainy season is
Speaker 1: supposed to end torrential downpours, unbelievable tropical depression, Hurricane Sarah.
Speaker 1: And that leads me to my limb a rick for
Speaker 1: the week. I had an inspiration, eureka, why not travel
Speaker 1: to Costa Rica? Despite the rain? I went. The weather
Speaker 1: did circumvent my route through Lovely Topeka. Actually I was
Speaker 1: circumvented through Atlanta, but Atlanta doesn't rhyme with coast.
Speaker 2: Of fair Enough.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, as far as plant material is concerned, Bird
Speaker 1: of Paradise is a big deal in Costa Rica. But
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, it's really not bird of Paradise. It's heliconias.
Speaker 1: Heliconias are native to Central and South America. Whereas the
Speaker 1: bird of Paradise Strelitzia was a plant that I would
Speaker 1: often bring up to the garden center. People love it.
Speaker 1: The foliage looks like bananas. Same thing with the heliconia,
Speaker 1: which the hummingbirds in Costa Rica just love. They call
Speaker 1: it false bird of Paradise or Pico deloro parrots beak
Speaker 1: because they do look like some of those toucans that
Speaker 1: I pictures of the Tucans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. You know, when I was at the
Speaker 2: New York Botanical Garden, they had an incredible collection heliconias,
Speaker 2: and the common name that they would usually put on
Speaker 2: them was lobster claw.
Speaker 1: Yes, lobster claw, which.
Speaker 2: Is accurate as the parrots beak.
Speaker 1: So you're right, yeah, just amazing the biodiversity in Costa Rica.
Speaker 1: So if you're into plants, you're into birds, I recommend
Speaker 1: you go the Guanacosta Tree. What a huge crown on
Speaker 1: that tree provides shade in the hot weather. Some people
Speaker 1: refer to it as elephant ear tree because of the
Speaker 1: seed pods. The blue water in the waterfalls in proximity
Speaker 1: to the volcanoes in the northwestern province of Guanacosta just unreal,
Speaker 1: I mean waterfalls in general. And then to see plants
Speaker 1: like Philodendron cordatum just lining the walls, plants that I
Speaker 1: used to sell in the garden center and hanging baskets
Speaker 1: and just growing in the wild. I mentioned the coffee,
Speaker 1: the landscape and the vistas. It's so diverse. There was
Speaker 1: a really cool tree called sandpaper leaf. You grab the
Speaker 1: foliage and it is as rough as sandpaper.
Speaker 2: Interesting unreal.
Speaker 1: The snakes, the sloths, the lizards on the roof on
Speaker 1: the clay tile roof, the leaf cutter ants watching.
Speaker 2: Them, those are amazing.
Speaker 1: They're fascinating. The monkeys I could not get used to
Speaker 1: the howling monkeys or the howler monkeys. Man, do they
Speaker 1: make a racket at dawn and at dusk? So the
Speaker 1: papaya trees made me think of Steve Miller band. You know,
Speaker 1: I brought you a creative papayas chewing on sugarcane. So
Speaker 1: the lawn and short of it is, if you get
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Costa Rica, don't go during
Speaker 1: the rainy season. Even though the rainforest was just beautiful.
Speaker 1: But I recommend that you not go during the rainy season.
Speaker 1: But what a wonderful country, wonderful people and horticulturally agriculture birds.
Speaker 1: It's a paradise.
Speaker 2: Did you see an equal frogs?
Speaker 1: Yes, incredible frogs. As a matter of fact, we have
Speaker 1: a picture for the YouTube version of the show. Got
Speaker 1: up and up close and personal to sloth, snakes and
Speaker 1: frog and the red eyed green foot.
Speaker 2: Oh so beautiful.
Speaker 1: They're gorgeous, unreal. So I recommend you make a trip
Speaker 1: to Costa Rica and go to Topeka too if you want.
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds great, but I'll tell you if I went,
Speaker 2: I think I would probably have to go for two
Speaker 2: weeks because it would probably take me like an entire
Speaker 2: day to go fifty yards.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable, It really is. It really is kid in a
Speaker 1: candy store. Coming up next Adriana, we'll talk about Australia.
Speaker 1: Stacey will talk about Japan. That's on The Gardening Simplified Show.
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Speaker 2: Today we are ripping up the script. We're doing things
Speaker 2: totally different because all three of us have taken some
Speaker 2: pretty amazing vacations. We've been lucky enough to do that
Speaker 2: over the past couple of months, and we wanted to
Speaker 2: tell you about what we did and what we saw
Speaker 2: and maybe get you inspired to take a vacation. Plant
Speaker 2: based vacation of your own. So I am going to
Speaker 2: hand it over to Adriana, who's going to tell you
Speaker 2: about her trip to Australia. But before I do that,
Speaker 2: I do want to mention since we're talking about Adriana,
Speaker 2: our editor and producer and who does all of our YouTube.
Speaker 2: Of course, this is a great episode to join us
Speaker 2: for on YouTube because there are run me so many photos, videos,
Speaker 2: stuff like that that we took of our vacation. So
Speaker 2: if you were interested, it would definitely be a good
Speaker 2: one to tune in. Just go to YouTube and type
Speaker 2: in gardening some fun. Yes, all right, so let's kick
Speaker 2: it off.
Speaker 3: I visited Australia and Tasmania in October, so while that
Speaker 3: was fall for us here in the Northern Hemisphere, it
Speaker 3: was spring down there. The first stop that I made
Speaker 3: was in Sydney, and in Sydney I have to talk
Speaker 3: about the jacaranda trees. The scientific name is Jacaranda mimosa folia. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's it, and it is in the family Bignoni a sea,
Speaker 3: which is the trumpet vine family. These trees have been
Speaker 3: growing steadily in Australia for around one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 3: They are not native to the area, they are originally
Speaker 3: from parts of Central and South America, and they think
Speaker 3: that the seeds were brought along with sea captains from
Speaker 3: South America. This species epithet means having leaves like a mimosa,
Speaker 3: and the leaves truly did look like a mimosa tree
Speaker 3: with that really fine kind of foliage.
Speaker 2: But they are not related, yeah, because Momosa is in
Speaker 2: the bean family and Jackaranda is in the big Nonia
Speaker 2: the like you said. But the thing about Jackaranda and
Speaker 2: when I saw your picture on YouTube, because I was
Speaker 2: on vacation at the same time you were, and I
Speaker 2: looked at your picture on YouTube and I was like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Adrian is there. When the jack Arandas
Speaker 2: are in flower, I am so jealous. I mean, you
Speaker 2: have to talk about what they look like when they flower.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yes, especially being in Sydney.
Speaker 2: It's a big city so seeing these.
Speaker 3: Vivid, lavender blue flowers just lining the streets was incredible.
Speaker 3: It almost looks like you're looking through a UV filter
Speaker 3: or like a Doctor Seuss kind of tree. But they
Speaker 3: are absolutely stunning and they do actually drop the flowers
Speaker 3: so they kind of have a carpet like effect, which
Speaker 3: I'm sure for some people if they planted by a
Speaker 3: pool or something, could be a little annoying. But along
Speaker 3: the streets it was stunning. And actually a fun fact
Speaker 3: is that studies have shown it to have anti cancer activity,
Speaker 3: antimicrobial properties, and antioxidant capacity, and these characteristics may be
Speaker 3: used to fight off E. Coli, staphylococcus, and leukemia. In
Speaker 3: these trees like Rick like it hot and sunny. And
Speaker 3: so next we'll move to Melbourne, or Melbourne as they
Speaker 3: like to say. In the Royal Botanic Gardens of Victoria,
Speaker 3: I saw a Banksia plant.
Speaker 2: Are you familiar? You know I am crazy about anything
Speaker 2: in the proteac also known as Protea family. Australia is
Speaker 2: an epicenter along with self the South Africa for these plants,
Speaker 2: and they are They're just like nothing else that you
Speaker 2: have ever seen.
Speaker 3: They are not. And so it was in the botanic garden,
Speaker 3: but walking along it was kind of in a not
Speaker 3: conspicuous area, but I just stopped me in my tracks.
Speaker 3: So it's a genus in the Proteacea family with over
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy species, which I was surprised to
Speaker 3: find native of them.
Speaker 2: Fabulous, all of them fabulous.
Speaker 3: Native to Australia and New Guinea, they can grow as
Speaker 3: trees or shrubs and they are popular garden plants around
Speaker 3: the area. Most of the species the flowers are quite distinguishable.
Speaker 3: They're kind of like a bottle brush spiky cone of
Speaker 3: flowers that usually has like one hundred to thousands of
Speaker 3: flowers in that individual kind.
Speaker 2: Of conical shape.
Speaker 3: And then it's actually if you do run your hand
Speaker 3: along certain species, it does have like a bottle brush
Speaker 3: effect where it kind of feels bristly and hard a
Speaker 3: little bit. A nice thing about these flowers is that
Speaker 3: they produce tons of nectar, so they attract pollinators and
Speaker 3: nectar loving birds.
Speaker 2: And guess what else? What else?
Speaker 3: Honey possums?
Speaker 2: What I did?
Speaker 3: Adorable little creeture. They look like mice, but they have
Speaker 3: elongated snouts and they're perfect forgetting that sweet, sweet nectar out.
Speaker 3: But I'll put photos in of these things because they
Speaker 3: are adorable.
Speaker 2: Did you see one of them? No? I didn't, I didn't.
Speaker 2: Gotta go back, I know, yeah, just another reason.
Speaker 3: So then the foliage size and structure will vary depending
Speaker 3: on the species. But the fruit contains seeds and this
Speaker 3: protective structure, so it's still that elongated kind of shape.
Speaker 3: And most species will often open from exposure, so typically
Speaker 3: with fire, so bushfires are kind of important for this
Speaker 3: genus in most cases. And the seed pods are really
Speaker 3: unique looking. The old flower spikes commonly referred to as cones,
Speaker 3: but they aren't technically cones botanically speaking.
Speaker 2: But when they open, they kind of look like.
Speaker 3: What I think of as a chorus of singing cartoon frogs.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: Yea, I do. Yeah, yeah, because they have like they
Speaker 2: kind of open up like little mouths. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So on top of that, these plants typically thrive in
Speaker 3: USDA zones nine to eleven.
Speaker 2: And they are you can find them as ornamental plants
Speaker 2: in the US, not in Michigan, of course, but you
Speaker 2: can also use get them as cut flower sometimes. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it gets your little Australia fixed that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was funny because when we were in Tasmania,
Speaker 3: actually we were in the on this popular hiking trail
Speaker 3: where it had beautiful vistas and overlooks, and I saw
Speaker 3: a protea flower and it was just as perfect cut stem,
Speaker 3: but it was overlooking what they call Wineglass Bay, so
Speaker 3: it's like the super picturesque area.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a weird spot, and I was looking.
Speaker 3: All around for the plant and I couldn't find it.
Speaker 3: Go down to a beach, another beautiful picturesque spot, and
Speaker 3: there's another flower. And then it dawned on me though
Speaker 3: it was probably from a photo shoot that someone had
Speaker 3: been clipping these flowers and taking them along, so I
Speaker 3: wasn't likely to find the plant there. But so now
Speaker 3: moving over to Tasmania. I love Tasmania. I kind of
Speaker 3: describe it as Jurassic Park mixed with Scotland. It's this
Speaker 3: phenomenal landscape. There were so many plants here it was
Speaker 3: kind of hard to pick which one. So I kind
Speaker 3: of picked two staples, and the first one being eucalyptus,
Speaker 3: and so Eucalyptus is predominant everywhere in Australia and Tasmania.
Speaker 3: But what really struck me.
Speaker 2: Was the sheer size of some of these trees.
Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about Eucalyptus regnans aka mountain ash,
Speaker 3: giant esh, swamp gum, and stringygum. These are in the
Speaker 3: family murdy race Myrtasi myrtasi and our native to Tasmania
Speaker 3: and Victoria. They're actually the.
Speaker 2: Tallest hardwood trees in the world.
Speaker 3: So red yeah, redwoods are softwood and they're they're kind
Speaker 3: of up there as well, but these ones will often
Speaker 3: reach over eighty meters or two hundred and sixty feet tall.
Speaker 3: And fun fact, regnans comes from the Latin word regnar,
Speaker 3: meaning to rule, so they kind of rain over the
Speaker 3: forest there. And it was really cool to see these.
Speaker 3: I saw these in the Huon Valley next to the
Speaker 3: Huon River in Tasmania, which is southeast Tasmania area. It
Speaker 3: was beautiful because you have these giant, towering Eucalyptus trees.
Speaker 3: The understory is all rainforest, so just seeing them pop
Speaker 3: up ever was absolutely phenomenal. The trunks are smooth with
Speaker 3: a beautiful cream gray brown coloring.
Speaker 2: And some flaky bark because that bark's gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 3: And those ones actually grow mostly in cool, mountainous rainy areas,
Speaker 3: so fitting for the Huon Valley. And because these trees
Speaker 3: want to tower over most of the rainforest understory plants,
Speaker 3: they take on that live fast approach, so they grow
Speaker 3: very fast when they're young and then they kind of
Speaker 3: peter out as they get a little older. But when
Speaker 3: they're young, they'll grow from one to two meters or three.
Speaker 2: To seven feet per year. WHOA yeah, fast.
Speaker 3: Yes, But unfortunately these trees are quite susceptible to fire,
Speaker 3: and they had actually had a fire in recent years
Speaker 3: that you could see the damage from some of those
Speaker 3: older mature trees. On the flip side. Moving on from
Speaker 3: the eucalyptus is the huon pine with a very fun
Speaker 3: scientific name Lageristrobos Frank Lnei.
Speaker 2: I practiced them one.
Speaker 3: Unlike Mountnash or swamp gum, which is a eucalyptus, the
Speaker 3: huon pine takes the slow and steady approach to life.
Speaker 3: So this long lived tree is only native to the
Speaker 3: wet rainforests of Tasmania, so it felt really special to
Speaker 3: see something that old and just kind of a staple
Speaker 3: to the land. It's not actually a pine but a
Speaker 3: conifer in the Podocarpesi family. Some have grown to be
Speaker 3: over two thousand years old, making them some of the
Speaker 3: oldest living organisms.
Speaker 2: On the planet. That's amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And because they're so old, their tree rings have
Speaker 3: actually been used to help establish records of climate variation
Speaker 3: throughout ers, which I thought was pretty cool. And then
Speaker 3: another fun fact is that it's highly prized for its
Speaker 3: wood because it has a high oil content that makes
Speaker 3: it impervious to insects and also quite waterproof.
Speaker 2: So the high oil content also.
Speaker 3: Allows the wood to bend easier, all of these characteristics
Speaker 3: making it great for making boats. It was a sought
Speaker 3: after lumber back in the day, so they were just
Speaker 3: cutting these trees down until they kind of realized, wait,
Speaker 3: these things grow pretty slow. Oh, and they take a
Speaker 3: long time to grow. So in the nineteen seventies there
Speaker 3: was a consensus that it is not sustainable to cut
Speaker 3: down thousand year ols' trees, and they have since stopped
Speaker 3: doing that.
Speaker 2: Well, thank goodness. Yeah, someone learns a lesson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, those were definitely some of my favorite.
Speaker 3: I mean, the fauna and flora down there is absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3: I saw little blue penguins which were amazing, and I
Speaker 3: did cry walla, thees wombats, kangaroos, the birds were incredible.
Speaker 3: So it was a phenomenal time and I highly recommend
Speaker 3: anyone who was interested in nature to absolutely visit Australia
Speaker 3: and Tasmania.
Speaker 2: All Right, I hear you on that one, and you know,
Speaker 2: Tasmania is not as like a place where I don't
Speaker 2: think people really prioritize for visiting Australia.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, honestly, you are the one who informed
Speaker 3: me about it, and once you told me about it
Speaker 3: and I started looking it up and everything. It is
Speaker 3: just such a such a beautiful place. Everyone is so friendly.
Speaker 3: We stayed in Hobart, which is a really cool old town,
Speaker 3: and it was just incredible to see the variation of
Speaker 3: the natural landscape around there, from rainforest to dry eucalyptus
Speaker 3: for us, waterfalls.
Speaker 2: To the coast and caves. It was just absolutely amazing,
Speaker 2: and all on a relatively compact island.
Speaker 3: Relatively compact island, I think it takes around four hours
Speaker 3: to get from one end of the island to.
Speaker 2: The other, unless you're stopping for every bird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it'd probably take us at least four days.
Speaker 2: I feel that, all right. So that's a Dana's recap
Speaker 2: of Australia. When we come back, I'm going to give
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Speaker 2: the Gardening Simplified Show. Like I said, we're ripping up
Speaker 2: the script today, doing things a little bit different, although
Speaker 2: we will have some mailbank questions in the final segment.
Speaker 2: We'll be back to our normal format next week, but
Speaker 2: we wanted to just share with you because you know,
Speaker 2: we travel for plants, we travel for food, we travel
Speaker 2: for experience, but you know, plants and gardens are a
Speaker 2: huge reason why I travel. And of course when it
Speaker 2: comes to garden destinations, I think a lot of people
Speaker 2: know that Japan is sort of, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the places to go to see gardens.
Speaker 1: Amazing. I want to go some day.
Speaker 2: You should go. It's a long flight, but it's absolutely
Speaker 2: worth it. Now this was actually not my first time
Speaker 2: in Japan. I had been to Kyoto for my honeymoon.
Speaker 2: And if you want to see gardens in Japan, like
Speaker 2: the classic Japanese gardens, you have to go to Kyoto
Speaker 2: that is really where all of these really famous, well
Speaker 2: known gardens are. Kyoto is actually spared bombing in World
Speaker 2: War two, so these really old gardens have actually persisted,
Speaker 2: whereas Tokyo was completely destroyed in World War two and
Speaker 2: so had to rebuild. So you don't see as many
Speaker 2: of those older gardens as many of those venerable old trees,
Speaker 2: although there certainly are some. But this time we did
Speaker 2: just go to Tokyo, and I saw a lot of
Speaker 2: really cool plants. But I honestly think that one of
Speaker 2: the coolest things, and this was true in Kyoto as
Speaker 2: it was in Tokyo, is that, you know, the Japanese
Speaker 2: culture is just really just I don't even want to
Speaker 2: say like plant focused. It's just that nature and plants
Speaker 2: and the seasonal cycles are just such an intrinsic part
Speaker 2: of Japanese culture and eating and everything, and so it's
Speaker 2: just like there's this natural respect there for plants that
Speaker 2: is really lacking in a lot of places. And it
Speaker 2: really shows in the fact that even in Tokyo, which
Speaker 2: is considered the most populous city in the world, huge city,
Speaker 2: I think there's like thirty six million people that live there.
Speaker 2: Any neighborhood street that you walk down, you see people
Speaker 2: create these little tiny container gardens outside of their homes
Speaker 2: and apartments, and I have some pictures of these. They
Speaker 2: just take a little assemblage of plants and put them
Speaker 2: out there for people to see and to kind of
Speaker 2: express themselves. And so you're really seeing these like miniature
Speaker 2: gardens everywhere that you go.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. I've seen that from friends in Japan. There is
Speaker 1: just this appreciation for plant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't have to like go to a
Speaker 2: park or anything to see this, and that was a
Speaker 2: very cool thing. So I have some pictures of that.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like where do I even start. We
Speaker 2: did visit some gardens, and the gardens in Japan typically
Speaker 2: are either associated with a temple or shrine or are
Speaker 2: like a historic park, part of a kessel, or a
Speaker 2: former samurai estate as well. So I think my favorite
Speaker 2: garden that we visited in Tokyo was Hamriiku Gardens, which
Speaker 2: was a former samurai estate. It just had a lot
Speaker 2: of really cool features and things like that, and one
Speaker 2: of the things that it had were these seasonal beds
Speaker 2: of annuals and there was a couple of them, some
Speaker 2: of them were bare or had plants just getting started.
Speaker 2: But what was at peak when we were there was
Speaker 2: a huge planting of cosmos sulfurious. So a lot of
Speaker 2: people know cosmos popular plant and cosmos sulfurious rather than
Speaker 2: the typical pinks and white that you have in the cosmos.
Speaker 2: Most people think of is as you might guess, with
Speaker 2: the sulfurious yellow and orange. So there were these huge
Speaker 2: beds of yellow and orange cosmos and they were just,
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the verb that I even used to
Speaker 2: describe it, just teeming with butterflies. I mean, I've never
Speaker 2: seen so many butterflies in my entire life. And I
Speaker 2: took a video of it doesn't do it justice, but
Speaker 2: as you said, they're looking at this flower field full
Speaker 2: of cosmos. I mean, there was just thousands of butterflies
Speaker 2: of different species everywhere, and it made it so magical
Speaker 2: and so interesting. So that was definitely a highlight, even
Speaker 2: though I think that a lot of people don't think
Speaker 2: of Japanese gardens as places to see flowers per se.
Speaker 2: You know, there's gonna be hydrange as, there's gonna be camellias,
Speaker 2: that kind of thing, but I don't think most people
Speaker 2: think of them as like the traditional flower garden.
Speaker 1: Yeah, more so evergreens, bones eye, Japanese maples.
Speaker 2: Yep, exactly. Another really cool thing that I saw. And
Speaker 2: this I'm not gonna call it a weed because it
Speaker 2: is native to Japan and grows everywhere. And this is
Speaker 2: the first time I saw it, So even though last
Speaker 2: time I was in Japan was also in the fall,
Speaker 2: I had never seen this plant. And the plant is
Speaker 2: Trichosanthe's pulosa, also known as the Japanese snake gord. Now,
Speaker 2: the first time I saw this, we were just walking
Speaker 2: on the street kind of getting from one area to another,
Speaker 2: and we're just in transit. Basically, it was hot, it
Speaker 2: was humid, I was getting tired and a little cranky maybe,
Speaker 2: and there was just this sort of like railroad station
Speaker 2: with this vine growing all over it. And you have
Speaker 2: to see these flowers to believe them. They are so
Speaker 2: in it. There are just hundreds of little filaments that
Speaker 2: start all curled up into the plant and then they
Speaker 2: just unfurl into this like a magical undersea creature looking
Speaker 2: flower that is just beautiful, pure white. And then when
Speaker 2: the flower matures, it becomes the snake gord, which does
Speaker 2: not actually look like a snake. There are, of course
Speaker 2: those long snake gords that you see, but this is
Speaker 2: just kind of a small, round, orange red fruit. And
Speaker 2: it turns out this is like a very kind of
Speaker 2: poignant association with autumn in Japan, and I actually bought
Speaker 2: a piece of fabric that had them printed on there,
Speaker 2: and it's really so just a special thing that I
Speaker 2: you know, it was just growing unattended and just really
Speaker 2: really cool to see. So I definitely want to grow
Speaker 2: that from seed to kind of connect to that memory,
Speaker 2: and also because it is just incredibly, incredibly beautiful. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of the plants that we grow in our
Speaker 2: gardens are actually native to Japan, and so it's very different,
Speaker 2: I think, you know, seeing them in place where they're native,
Speaker 2: even if they're in a cultivated area like a garden.
Speaker 2: And one of those that I saw that was at
Speaker 2: absolute peak was triceurtus, also known as totally very popular
Speaker 2: autumn flowering perennial for shade, moist shade, and you know,
Speaker 2: in every garden that we went to and in many
Speaker 2: of those little residential gardens that I mentioned, it was
Speaker 2: in full bloom and just so so pretty and again
Speaker 2: just such a great association really with autumn. And you know,
Speaker 2: I thought of you Rick, because lots of miss canthus.
Speaker 2: Oh loves fall, you know, so plenty of miss canthus
Speaker 2: everywhere in flower and just that beautiful, silky, you know,
Speaker 2: tassel flower that they get. So you'll see some pictures
Speaker 2: from Shinjuku go In, which is the National Garden in Tokyo,
Speaker 2: sort of around this beautifully landscaped pond with you know,
Speaker 2: cloud prune trees and I'll talk more about cloud pruning
Speaker 2: in a moment. And yeah, the miss canthus was just
Speaker 2: at peak and looking gorgeous, fantastic, So shouldn'tchuku In is
Speaker 2: a really special place. I saw so many amazing trees.
Speaker 2: And it's always funny. I think, like when you go
Speaker 2: to another country and see a North American native and
Speaker 2: you're like, whoa, that's so cool. And for me on
Speaker 2: this trip, that was actually seeing our native bald snipers
Speaker 2: Taxodium disticum growing in chin Juko go In with the
Speaker 2: coolest news. You know how the taxodium gets the woody
Speaker 2: protuberances because it grows in wet soil, so it does
Speaker 2: the it creates these knobby looking things. Yeah, yeah, to
Speaker 2: be able to get some oxygen. And the coolest planting
Speaker 2: I think I've ever seen was actually in Japan, So
Speaker 2: there's a picture of that on YouTube and ginko. So
Speaker 2: you know, I was there in the last half of October,
Speaker 2: and so it was really too early for fall color.
Speaker 2: Yet you know here in Michigan that I missed peak
Speaker 2: fall color here in Michigan and didn't quite get it
Speaker 2: in Tokyo, they were still probably a good month away
Speaker 2: from developed fall color. So the ginkos didn't have their
Speaker 2: gorgeous gold fall color. But what they did have is fruit,
Speaker 2: and a lot of fruits. Now, if you're not familiar
Speaker 2: with ginko fruit, it stinks real bad. It smells as
Speaker 2: when the fruit falls off the trees, it sits on
Speaker 2: the street or whatever sidewalk, gets stepped on ferments in
Speaker 2: the sun and starts to smell like vomit. The seeds
Speaker 2: are edible, and we were served them at many different restaurants.
Speaker 2: They're actually quite good, kind of like a nut. But yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, in the US now basically all of our
Speaker 2: ginkgos are grafted, so you're only getting a male ginko,
Speaker 2: so you don't have to worry about those smelly fruits
Speaker 2: coming everywhere. You will still see them sometimes in cities
Speaker 2: like I know in New York, Like in older parks,
Speaker 2: you would still see some female ginkos. But ginkos have
Speaker 2: basically been grafted in the US to be only male
Speaker 2: since probably the nineteen seventies or thereabouts, but not in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: Lots of female ginkos everywhere. That made a little memorable
Speaker 2: smell memory for a trip.
Speaker 1: So it was too early for the ginkos to be
Speaker 1: brilliant yellow, yes, okay.
Speaker 2: But definitely peak fruit season, sir. And it was hot
Speaker 2: and humid, so you can imagine the combination of all
Speaker 2: of those things. So Tokyo is home to the Japanese
Speaker 2: Imperial Palace, which is of course a big tourist attraction there,
Speaker 2: and you know, of course we were going to go there.
Speaker 2: But what I was not prepared for with the Imperial
Speaker 2: Palace is that it is just surrounded by acres and
Speaker 2: acres of cloud pruned Pina sunburgii or Japanese black pine.
Speaker 2: And when I say cloud prune, so you might not
Speaker 2: be familiar with this term, but cloud pruning is basically
Speaker 2: the term that describes the way we all think of
Speaker 2: like the way a Japanese tree is pruned, you know,
Speaker 2: with that very meticulous it's called cloud pruning because the
Speaker 2: foliage is all on the upper side of the branch,
Speaker 2: kind of hanging over it like a cloud. It's pretty
Speaker 2: labor intensive. You do have to start from a young
Speaker 2: age for the tree, not for the person pruning it.
Speaker 2: And every single year you have to go in and
Speaker 2: you have to do what's called cutting the candles. So
Speaker 2: you know, pines put these candles out. You have to
Speaker 2: go in and cut them at a certain point so
Speaker 2: that they will continue to grow in the direction that
Speaker 2: you want them to. And I mean the Imperial Palace.
Speaker 2: I couldn't even begin to fathom a number of pines
Speaker 2: surrounding this place. It would have to be I mean,
Speaker 2: it would have to be twenty thousand or more. And
Speaker 2: I just cannot even imagine the labor that goes into it.
Speaker 2: And its timing is super crucial for cloud burning. You
Speaker 2: can't just say, oh, yeah, we'll get to that in
Speaker 2: a month. You know, you have to get it when
Speaker 2: the candles are at a certain stage. So it was
Speaker 2: really just I think an incredible monument to the effort
Speaker 2: that goes into gardening what it means to really, you know,
Speaker 2: take care of something and have a vision for a
Speaker 2: garden or a plant. And yeah, it was just an incredible,
Speaker 2: incredible experience and great food, great people. I loved every
Speaker 2: single minute of it, despite the heat and humidity which
Speaker 2: is a little bit extremely So we're going to take
Speaker 2: a little break when we come back. We're going to
Speaker 2: answer some gardening questions before we wrap the show, so
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Speaker 2: and welcome back once again to the Gardening Simplified Show.
Speaker 2: You know, we always say that we love answering your
Speaker 2: gardening questions. That's one of the ways that we try
Speaker 2: to simplify gardening for you here on The Gardening Simplified Show,
Speaker 2: and that's why in this vacation themed show, we are
Speaker 2: devoting at least one segment to answering all those burning
Speaker 2: gardening questions out there, even though I think here in
Speaker 2: Michigan this season is officially at it's.
Speaker 1: Ad and end, but we can dream at Christmas time.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that you go to Japan
Speaker 1: and you get some beautiful fabric of a snake gorg. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that I go to Costa Rica and I
Speaker 1: end up in one of those touristy shops and get
Speaker 1: this cheap taki shirt that you see me wearing here.
Speaker 2: I like it. Do you like it a lot? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And Adriana did get a clip on Koala that did
Speaker 2: not make it on air this time, but it's out there.
Speaker 2: It's out there, so wonderful. But anyway, if you have
Speaker 2: a gardening question for us, we know that just because
Speaker 2: the gardening season might end, your questions don't and we
Speaker 2: answer questions about indoor plants and that kind of thing
Speaker 2: as well. So you can reach us at Gardening Simplified
Speaker 2: on air dot com. There is a contact form there
Speaker 2: you can fill that out. You can even attach a
Speaker 2: photo if you'd like, and explain your issue and we
Speaker 2: would be glad to answer your question on the air
Speaker 2: if we can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or send pictures of your garden this past year
Speaker 1: and dream with us.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's such a good idea, because, yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a little bit of a waste until next season.
Speaker 2: You don't tend to notice that in the holidays because
Speaker 2: you got a lot to think about, But once January hits,
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, m oh boy.
Speaker 1: Well, Stacy Tina writes to us, Hi, Rick and Stacy,
Speaker 1: I loved listening to your show. I learned so much.
Speaker 1: I've had this dilemma over a Wjila am I saying that? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've talked about that.
Speaker 2: Well. It is one of the ones that trips people up.
Speaker 1: It has grown way larger than I thought it would,
Speaker 1: But I do not know the name. You can see
Speaker 1: that it says tall as the house, or it's as
Speaker 1: tall as the house. I've trimmed on it occasionally, but
Speaker 1: it just seems to keep growing. How far down can
Speaker 1: I trim it without killing it? I hardly ever see blooms,
Speaker 1: so that doesn't matter if they don't come back for
Speaker 1: a while. It's on the south side of the house.
Speaker 1: Plenty of sun trying to take over Northwest Florida's Zone eight.
Speaker 1: Be any suggestion.
Speaker 2: Yes, So the answer is in the question this time,
Speaker 2: interestingly enough, So what's happening here, Tina? Is that your
Speaker 2: why gela is not flowering because it's just too darn hot.
Speaker 2: Why Gela is one of those plants like lilac or
Speaker 2: apple that actually needs a period of cool temperatures, cold
Speaker 2: temperatures in order to set its flower buds for the
Speaker 2: following year, And in your Florida USA Zone eight B,
Speaker 2: that is just not happening. So that's why it's not flowering.
Speaker 2: So you know, in that case, I would potentially, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know why you're growing it, or what you're
Speaker 2: hoping for it to sort of accomplish, or what kind
Speaker 2: of role you wanted to fill in your landscape. But
Speaker 2: if you wanted flowers and it's not doing that and
Speaker 2: it's not looking good, I would say just go ahead
Speaker 2: and take it out.
Speaker 1: I would agree. But now you're not going to kill
Speaker 1: it by pruning it, that's for sure. They respond well
Speaker 1: to pruning.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and so on that same note, if you
Speaker 2: do want to just keep it and give it a
Speaker 2: new lease on life, there, you can pretty much prune it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't print it flesh with the ground, but you
Speaker 2: can certainly prune it to just a couple of inches
Speaker 2: above the ground. Get a chainsaw or some heavy duty
Speaker 2: looppers or a handsaw. It is gonna probably be a
Speaker 2: big job having such a large, mature one like this,
Speaker 2: but you can take that down to just three inch
Speaker 2: stubs and it will start to come back and the
Speaker 2: foliage will be fresh. And you can do this with
Speaker 2: almost all shrubs, or some shrubs that take to it
Speaker 2: better than others. I know, for example, that elderberry doesn't
Speaker 2: take to this very well, but why Gila is one.
Speaker 2: It certainly does. And that's called a rejuvenation pruning, and
Speaker 2: that'll give you a fresh start. Or if you know
Speaker 2: someone with a pickup truck and got a strong metal chain,
Speaker 2: then maybe it's time to just pull it out and
Speaker 2: put in something, you know, that's a little bit more Florida.
Speaker 2: Take advantage of it.
Speaker 1: You know, Stacey, you say that so nicely. A rejuvenation pruning.
Speaker 1: In the industry, we'd call that a hack job. But
Speaker 1: either way you get there, I recommend it.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you know. Hackjob is what you say
Speaker 2: to the other people on your team. Rejuvenation pruning is
Speaker 2: what you say to a client a little bit nicer. Now. Interestingly,
Speaker 2: now that it's December, we had a number of questions
Speaker 2: about Holly, so I think people are getting ready to
Speaker 2: deck the hull. So our next two questions are two
Speaker 2: different questions about Holly.
Speaker 1: I see that, Stacy. Christine wrote to us from Quebec, Canada.
Speaker 1: Bou sure, Christine, so Christine says, First, I love your show,
Speaker 1: Thanks Christine. Second, I bought a very heavy gold winter
Speaker 1: berry on a whim at the end of season clearance sale.
Speaker 1: Don't you just love it? I love it.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful plant.
Speaker 1: End of season bargains, and yes, beautiful. It came in
Speaker 1: a pot with a Mister Poppins winter berry. Since it
Speaker 1: was mid November, I just planted the whole thing, both
Speaker 1: the female and male, into a single hole come spring.
Speaker 1: Should I separate the two shrubs and move mister Poppins
Speaker 1: away to give them space to grow or do I
Speaker 1: just let them grow together? I couldn't find any information
Speaker 1: on the plant tag or PW website. Thanks Barry mulch,
Speaker 1: and I didn't say that, Christine said that. Good job, Christine. Thanks.
Speaker 2: He went for the double pun, the rare double pun
Speaker 2: I love it so Christine. This is interesting because it
Speaker 2: is not typically sold that way. There's certainly no issue
Speaker 2: really with it being sold. Obviously it's much more convenient,
Speaker 2: not just for you, but for the garden center as well,
Speaker 2: because you know it can be difficult you could to
Speaker 2: maintain adequate stock of both plants, the male and the female.
Speaker 2: And of course Holly needs both a male plant and
Speaker 2: a female plant, and only the female will set berries.
Speaker 2: But I would say you did the right thing by
Speaker 2: going ahead and planting it now together. But I would
Speaker 2: definitely separate these outcomes spring. And here is the reason why.
Speaker 2: In this case, very heavy gold, fabulous plant, just so
Speaker 2: unique and so beautiful, is going to get to be
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't check the height before I came here,
Speaker 2: but a good eight feet tall, if not bigger. Whereas
Speaker 2: mister Poppins is actually a dwarf variety. And so what
Speaker 2: is likely to happen is that since the female is
Speaker 2: larger and probably more vigorous, it's very likely to shade
Speaker 2: out the male, and if the male is in too
Speaker 2: much shade, it won't flower, it won't pollinate the female,
Speaker 2: and it will just end up kind of disappearing and
Speaker 2: negating its point of being in the same pot with
Speaker 2: the very heavy gold in the first place.
Speaker 1: I agree they can enjoy the holidays together and the
Speaker 1: holly days together. But I agree next year, let's separate
Speaker 1: the two. Not too far, but let's separate.
Speaker 3: The two, right.
Speaker 2: And you know, Christine did say within fifty feet of
Speaker 2: each other, and that is what we recommend. That is
Speaker 2: what university is recommend because that is the average distance
Speaker 2: you can expect a pollinating insect to fly on its
Speaker 2: foraging trips to ensure pollination. So go for that splitting
Speaker 2: come spring, Christine, and enjoy two fibulous plants.
Speaker 1: I love this question from Penny writes to us. I
Speaker 1: have three miniature eyes ilex rock garden plants. They seldom berry.
Speaker 1: What male pollinator should I get? My two red sprites
Speaker 1: don't have a male pollinator, and they are exceptional. You know,
Speaker 1: this particular plant being a smaller plant. I was visiting
Speaker 1: Isley Nursery in Oregon.
Speaker 2: Such a they have such amazing plants.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. And they had these growing in troughs and containers.
Speaker 1: What an interesting plant?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is so a lot of people aren't
Speaker 2: familiar with this it's certainly not common. You aren't going
Speaker 2: to just see this at your run of the mill
Speaker 2: garden center. But it is a very dwarf holly with
Speaker 2: small leaves, small thick, pointy leaves. And yeah, it's called
Speaker 2: rock garden because it's the kind of plant that you
Speaker 2: put in a rock garden. Just grows as a nice
Speaker 2: kind of little tough itt. As I was reading about
Speaker 2: it and preparing for the show, grows about one inch
Speaker 2: a year.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: That is some slow growing, slow growing plants right there, Patients,
Speaker 2: is a fact, which is great, you know. It's it's
Speaker 2: kind of nice to have something that you don't have
Speaker 2: to worry about overgrowing its space at least in your lifetime,
Speaker 2: you know. But one thing that's interesting is so rock
Speaker 2: garden is indeed a female holly, so you have the
Speaker 2: potential for berries. But I have to say, in every
Speaker 2: single source that I looked at through like the first
Speaker 2: three pages of Google, I did not find a single
Speaker 2: recommended male pollinator for this plant.
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if you could put
Speaker 1: like a large castle wall holly somewhere in the yard,
Speaker 1: whether or not it would work, right.
Speaker 2: So the tricky thing here is that I not only
Speaker 2: did I not find a specific male pollinator recommended, but
Speaker 2: even really reputable sites like the Missouri Botanic Garden just
Speaker 2: said it's a hybrid holly, like they didn't say it's
Speaker 2: a blue holly, or it's an English holly, or it's
Speaker 2: any kind of specific holly. And the key to holly
Speaker 2: pollination there's two crucial things. Number one, they have to
Speaker 2: be of the same species so that genetics are compatible.
Speaker 2: And number two, they have to flower at the same time,
Speaker 2: the male and the female, because of course, if the
Speaker 2: bloom times don't overlap exactly, you're not going to get
Speaker 2: full pollination. So it's interesting that your red sprites are
Speaker 2: doing so well. Red sprite is a winterbury holly, like
Speaker 2: the same kind that Christine was asking about, So this
Speaker 2: kind of loses its foliage in in winter. So what's
Speaker 2: happening there? If you live in a neighborhood, is your
Speaker 2: neighbor or perhaps if you're out in the wild, a
Speaker 2: wild specimen is just pollinating those. But there is nothing
Speaker 2: around for your rock garden holly. And I'm not sure
Speaker 2: exactly what I would recommend, since I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: find at least the species part. But yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that a blue holly like castle Wall would be a
Speaker 2: good start. But the only thing that concerns me with
Speaker 2: that is I feel like there's such common landscape plants
Speaker 2: blue holly that if that could do the trick, probably
Speaker 2: a neighbor's blue holly would potentially already keep dollinating pennies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. I think the timing thing, you're right on,
Speaker 1: and I think that's the problem.
Speaker 2: It could be timing. The other thing is rock garden
Speaker 2: holly is not the hardiest of holly's, probably due to
Speaker 2: its hybrid nature. So another possibility is that the flowers
Speaker 2: are just being lost to cold. You know, that the
Speaker 2: winter is killing the flower buds without actually harming the plant.
Speaker 2: So I would say look for those flowers to appear.
Speaker 2: If you have a friend who has a male blue holly,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe get a little clipping of it when
Speaker 2: it's in flower, put it next to this one, you know,
Speaker 2: just in a little vase or you know, jar or
Speaker 2: something like that to keep it hydrated and see if
Speaker 2: that works. Sometimes you just got a experiment. So we
Speaker 2: want to thank Adriana and Rick for sharing their incredible
Speaker 2: vacation experiences and thank you all so much for listening.
Speaker 2: We truly appreciate you and hope you have a wonderful
Speaker 2: week ahead.