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eight hundred ninety seven six seven. So a lot of
good things happening in Cougar Country. I asked the question yesterday,
who are you? How are you feeling about the retention
of the Cougar football players right How you feeling about
them Cougars and the twenty twenty six roster, ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls and BA fans their hype, They're lit
right now?
Speaker 3: The Kalani cultures winning out.
Speaker 2: The Kalani culture is retaining the high level, high end
talent that Brigham has brought in and has contained annually
developed BYU back to back seasons eleven and two, twelve
and two. They want to keep the change to the
train a chugga a chug a chugging along. That's what
they want right now. And the players are signing up.
They're locked in. They're coming back, Guys like Trey, Alexander,
bear Bachmeyer, Joe Vessa, De Mooney, Raider De Mooney, Sialia,
Sarah kN Alow, Fonohemma, Andrew Gentry, Isaiah Glasger, Parker Kingston,
Sonny Macassini, Bruce Mitchell, Villiami Pouha, Anissi Purcell, Fla Tasatawala,
Kyle Super Chokoto, Tona Basa Ucy, tom Way Payu, Tommy
paras Is, LJ.
Speaker 3: Martin, Body, Schoonerver.
Speaker 2: Do we have any other additions right now, Vic Cram,
any other additions that we're aware of of? Locked in
and loaded and ready to go for twenty twenty six.
The biggest news today is that Walker Lion, the four
star tight end from USC, has committed to the Byu
Cougars of Ryder Lions. He's gonna come in. He's gonna
fill the shoes of Carson Ryan. He's six foot four,
two forty five. He's produced at USC now he wants
to produce at BYU. Can't wait to see what he
can do. I feel like tight End you is back
up and running. The tight End Factory is going going fast,
going hard. Kevin Gilbride, I think Kevin Gilbride deserves a
little credit. Who is Kevin gilbrid Not a lot of
people talk about Kevin Gilbride.
Speaker 3: I feel like we need to.
Speaker 2: Okay, Kevin Gilbride came into BYU, Okay, not too long ago.
He's a former BYU football player as well. Remember once
upon a time he came to Brigham and bad Out.
He comes from a legendary coaching lineage. His father was
a fantastic coach in the NFL. He's coaching the tight
ends right now. He's been here since twenty twenty four.
We've seen greatness occur since then. Remember he was an
offensive analyst for Charlotte. He was with the Carolina Panthers
in twenty twenty one, in twenty twenty twos, with the
Chicago Bears from twenty eighteen to twenty nineteen, New York
Giants from twenty ten through twenty and seventeen. He was
at Temple before that. He was at George temp before
that he was at Syracuse before that. Oh, robust coaching
pedigree and resume over a twenty year coaching career in
the NFL for the majority of it, well half of it,
and then half of it in college football. He's the
right hand man of one of the right hand men
of a Rod. And he was a quarterback a BA
in nineteen ninety eight, so he's got a football mind.
Speaker 3: He was a football player, he was a quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think that Kevin Gilbrid deserves his flowers just as
much as a Rod deserves his flowers right now. So
shout out to this offensive staff with also TJ. Woods.
They're doing great things. Bescis Shitake doing good things. All
the gas and analysts that are doing good things. It
looks like the entire offensive coaching staff is being retained
as well, which abodes well for Brigham in my opinion.
The offense has continually gotten better year over year. Okay,
look at the sp plus analytics here. You wonder if
they take another step in that direction. So in twenty
twenty three, sp plus seventy fifth in the country. In
twenty twenty four, offensive ranking thirty six. In twenty twenty five,
offensive efficiency metric rating SP plus ESPN twenty fourth in
the country. Do we see another jump in that direction?
Ronald the three man Weaver, what do you make of it?
Do you think BYU can continue to get better offensively
in twenty twenty six? You look at the strength of schedule,
you look at what's coming back. You'll look at the
offense being retained. Bear Bachby is gonna be bigger, faster, stronger,
better at maybe throwing the football.
Speaker 3: What do you make of it, Ronald the three man Weaver.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think with the offensive pieces you have and
now Adam Walker Lions and look, I don't think they're done.
I think they're gonna add another running back, Ben, and
I think they're gonna add you know, another wide receiver.
We just got off the line with ryani Elgers in
the last segment, and I think that's possible. And I
think with that loaded offense under the direction if Aaron Roderick, look,
it's gonna be phenomenal. I would love nothing more than
for BAU to have a one two punch. Look at
the NFL, Ben, you have a one two punch. I
think college football is moving towards that way. Unfortunately, they
won't get a player like Jaime White. He reunites with
this coach Ben on Wednesday going to North Texas with
Neil Brown, as you know, the former West Virginia coach.
So that's unfortunate you won't get him. But I think
the offense if they add a few more pieces Ben.
We've seen some reports of maybe an offensive lineman from Washington.
Speaker 3: Maybe going to BYU.
Speaker 4: Right, we don't know, but I think this offense will
be revamped the right way. And I definitely think the
offense will be better. And it has to be. How
can it not being with the freshman that got here
in June. He got here in June. Now he's gonna
have a full offseason. Look what happened with Jake when Jake,
after those four games been had a full off season. Yes,
there were some times I was like, Okay, that was skeptical,
But for the most part, what did he do? He
put up great numbers. So now you let a guy
that's gonna be a true sophomore. The best thing that
Brandon Gurney said for Bear was not being able to run.
That's gonna be super beneficial, I agree for his career. Now,
with all these receivers, you need to get the last
guy in the room, get Walker on campus. I per
BAU football on Twitter he signed, So get everybody here
start working now. Been towards spring ball in the offseason
because I believe BYU's offense can can truly be explosive,
Like I don't want to say explosive plays like Texas Tech,
but I think it could be explosive in its own
way next season as well. Like I want to see
the BAU run game, Ben do what Tyler Alzer was
doing in the fourth quarter where they threw the ball
maybe the first three minutes, and if they got the
ball back with six to seven minutes, they just ran
it over and over, pounded it down your throat. You
aren't stopping it, eating up the time of the clock.
I want to see that BAU offense, the boys up
front just dominating, wearing down, imposing their will. And I
definitely think they'll be able to do it if they
add a couple more pieces. So yes, to your point,
the offense for twenty twenty six twenty seven will be
better than twenty twenty five twenty six.
Speaker 2: A couple other things I want to get to here
on your Utah ESPN Radio network by the way, number nine,
BAU faces rival Utah men's basketball on Saturday evening in
Salt Lake City tomorrow. Better show up, show out right,
bous on even on an eleven game win streak, making
that short trip to up Interstate fifteen to Salt Lake
City on Saturday, January tenth to take on that rival
University of Utah. University of Utah beat them last time.
There's a sad day in Cougar Country. BA, you still
had the last laugh if they made it to the
sweet sixteen in the NCAA Tournament.
Speaker 3: But guys, this is gonna be a big one.
Speaker 2: Saturday will be the two hundred and sixty seventh all
time meeting between the Cougars and the Utes. Bou's lead
BA leeds the all time series one hundred and thirty
five to one hundred and thirty one. It's closer than
I thought it was going to be. But has lost
three of its last five visits. You know this is
a key stat of that. Boia has lost three of
its last five visits to the Huntsman Center, including a
seventy three seventy two set back in overtime last season.
Speaker 3: The weeping, the wailing, the Nation Teeth.
Speaker 2: Saturday will be Richie saunders third and final game at
the Huntsman Center as a senior guard, average fourteen point
five points per game, shooting forty four percent for the
field and forty percent from the three point line and
forty two point nine percent from from beyond that arc.
Speaker 3: The guys. Keviakata needs to show up, show out.
Speaker 2: We need him healthy and strugg Hopefully he can play
against his former team at a high level he was
he was out last last game. We'll see if he
gets back on the hardwood against the Utes. Let's get
out to the hot line for a little Cougar Bee
Cougar Sports in Saturday representing BAU Sports. Illersday by us I.
We got Casey Lundquished on the like Casey, how you
live it?
Speaker 5: Hey? What's up?
Speaker 2: Ben?
Speaker 6: I'm doing well?
Speaker 5: How are you?
Speaker 3: Great man?
Speaker 2: Updates on the Lundquish family. How's the fam doing? How
is Christmas? How was New Year's.
Speaker 1: All?
Speaker 6: All as well? Had a great holiday season, had a
lot of fun and you know, avoided too many illnesses
which was a plague last year. So so far, so good.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The neuro virus and the corona virus and the flu. Man,
those things are there are plenty there they they are
very present over the last few months.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad you're able to avoid all that.
Speaker 2: You must be taking your vitamins and taking all of
your supplements and minerals. Brother, Well, what do you how
would you evaluate the off season so far for BYU football.
Speaker 6: Well, in this era, first and foremost is to retain
your best players, and I think b YU passed that
test with flying colors. There's still a few more, I
think waiting to announce, but of the players that they've lost,
all those guys are probably going to another school to
find more playing time at least. You know, we're only
week through, so there's still a week to go. But
last year BYU did lose you know, guys like a
Kielan Marion who's now playing in the National Championship, linebacker
like Harrison Taggart who you know, all things equal, they
would have liked to keep those guys. So BYU has
not lost a player of that caliber, at least not yet,
and that's very notable. And then to also bring back
guys that could have gone to the NFL, like most
notably LJ. Martin, then Isaiah Glasker, Canutanavasa. You bring a
really solid foundation back from a twelve one team, which
is fantastic. You have still a lot of room to
grow with those guys because you you were, you know,
playing with a true freshman quarterback in Bear Bachmeyer, and
I know by the end of the season he didn't
really look like a true freshman, but he did it
the beginning of the season, especially if you go back
to that Stanford game. I think there's a lot of
room for Bear to still grow despite his you know,
resounding successful season as a as a freshman. So so far.
Speaker 5: So good.
Speaker 6: But that doesn't mean that BYU can rest on their
laurels and and just plan to run it back with
only those guys that announced they're they're gonna come back
in twenty twenty six. As we saw against Texas Tech,
BYU does have some holes that they need to fill in,
some areas where they need to improve. So I think
that's where the transfer portal is going to come into play.
I'm interested to see if they can find them some
difference makers. I think Walker lyons today that's a huge one.
He's going to start right away. And then you have
Kyler Casper, a wide receiver who can fill that kind
of big bodied, go up and get it in a
contested cat situation wide receiver. For Byu, it's his thing
has been staying healthy, so that's first and foremost. If
he can stay healthy. He was seemingly always projected to
make an impact for Oregon but never really could because
of injury. So if he's able to stay healthy, then
I think b yu's first two transfers are going to
make an impact in September.
Speaker 2: Are you wever hyped about the retention efforts and who's
coming back? You more hyped about the opportunities that blways
going to find in the portal?
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's not as attractive, but I think it's
going to be something that fan bases have to get
used to. It's not as fun to see run it
back posts probably as it is to see commitment posts,
but I do think that's still more important. If you
go back to the twenty twenty four season, b YU
was five and seven, and and you know their thought
going into that season was, Hey, we're just going to
retain our guys and we think we can get a
lot better with this group, and they did and it
just goes to show how much you know, better individual
football players get at the college level a year after year.
So I think for BYU, who is already really good,
that is by far the most important. But I don't
think you can go in this era without landing at
least a few highly touted transfers, and I think Walker
Lions fits that mold, and I know they're they're going
after a few more. So to answer your question, I
would waigh or I would lean more toward the towards
the retention side. But there's still areas that b YU
needs to address, frankly, and that's where the portal comes in.
Speaker 3: What are the biggest positions of need? Via the portal?
Speaker 2: We've seen two acquisitions thus far wide receiver, tight end.
Speaker 3: What do you make of other positions that are of need?
Speaker 2: To me?
Speaker 6: The top of the list right now probably the offensive line.
You lose a few guys to graduation, and that was
an area where b why you got beat up a
little bit against Texas Tech, and other than those two games,
they were, you know, really pretty good. So that's not
to harp on that group, but I think just in
terms of bodies and the depth that you'll need to
survive a season. You know, b why you made it
through last year without losing Isaiah Jada and Andrew Gentry,
and that's great, but it's that's pretty rare. So I
think I would expect them to add at least two
up to four transfers. I think along the offensive line,
I would say that's the biggest position of.
Speaker 5: A need right now.
Speaker 6: And then despite bringing back LJ, I think it wouldn't
hurt to have another body there. You know, running backs
can go down so quickly. We saw that just this
last year was out the full season pretty much, and
then once LJ went down, suddenly you're you're down to
your third and four string guy, and it would be
better to elevate that position. After that, I think you
you go and find the best players of Ale that
you have connections to. So to me, that would be
you know, kdu Lave, linebacker. He's one of the top
players in the portal. He was a standout at Cal
and I think he has, you know, NFL potential. Then
he only law lea cornerback from Oregon who was a
JUCO prospect but was a member of the church and
was recruited by b Yu before picking Oregon. Guys that
fit that description to me are the ones you really
need to go and try to bring in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how confident are you that Chione comes to be? Why?
Speaker 2: I remember him getting that first offer from Uyu he
went into I believe, I can't remember if his father
or grandfather, but it was it was a dream come true. Right,
And then all the offers started coming in after that, right,
and he ended up at Oregon the bright lights, right,
and and all of the pomp and circumstance of Phil
Knight and the swoosh it took him away, swapped him
off his feet. Casey, lunquiz do you think he comes
to Brigham bit go around?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 6: Man, It's hard. Things changed so fast. You know, if
you would have asked me on Monday if Leona Lafal
of Texas ends up at b Yu, I would have
guessed yes. But in the nil era, when when high
offers can come in, anything can happen. So it's hard
to make too many predictions. But I do like buy's
chances a lot with Sione, just because of that previous
connection and because his connection with the church. I remember
interviewing him. It was I forget if that was two
or three years ago that he was coming out of
the JUCO ranks. But he told me that growing up
he knew a lot about b YU, just because he
would go to church and hear about it. And that
was before he was really following football too closely. But
then once he became a coveted prospect, obviously that gave
him a connection. And then at the same time BYU
started to win a lot of games. I think that
was back in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two,
so so he started to follow BYA pretty closely, giving
that connection to BYU. I think they're right up in
the top two or three schools to land his services.
But if they don't lend him, I would expect them
to find another cornerback in the portal. And then, obviously,
speaking of cornerbacks, you have Smith Snowden. He has, you know,
more than a dozen connections to the program. But he's
being recruited by the best of the best, and it
seems like Michigan would be the most obvious fit for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he took a visit to BYU recently.
He was awe struck at Michigan. He's gonna take a long,
hard look at Oregon by who's in the mix. They
got a fighting chance, no doubt about it. And and
you hope that you know that what would keep Smith
from what will keep Smith in Utah?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: What would keep Smith from going to Michigan or Oregon
for that matter, this go around? Do you think what's
the biggest pitch to retain Smith in the state of Utah.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, Smith is a unique case just because
his dad is Will Snowden, who's so well connected locally,
and you know, I don't want to speak for Will,
but he he tries really hard to get a lot
of talented players opportunities in this state because he knows
how how competitive and high quality the football is here.
And so for Smith specifically, you know, he he understands
and his family understands the kind of football that b
YU plays and the opportunities that he would have at
b YU. Then obviously you have his dad is a
BYU alumni. So that's that's one thing that b YU
has A a school like Georgia or Michigan, you know doesn't.
So it's certainly gonna be tough just because you know,
these schools have have big budgets and big brands, and
they're they're hard to beat out for a transfer, but uh,
b YU is going to try, and like you said,
they hosted him for a visit and we'll see where
he ends up deciding to go.
Speaker 2: Casey lundquiz here on ESPN the Fan. Uh he operates
the Boa Sports Illustrated website, talking some b YU football
in this segment.
Speaker 3: Is there what have you been working on there? What?
Speaker 2: What? What articles have you panned? What pieces have you
panned there on your website recently?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we've We've talked a lot about the year that
was in twenty twenty five, a lot about the transfer
portal we wrote about. Let's see quarterback like Michigan quarterback.
Let's see I'm forgetting his name here on the top
of my head. Jaden Davis.
Speaker 1: He's going to be on.
Speaker 6: Campus for for a visit this weekend. Kind of an
interesting store. He was a really coveted recruit at offers
from all over and he ended up at Michigan and
and was obviously beat out by Bryce Sunderwood. So he's
going to come check out BYU. So he would be
a really intriguing option as a backup quarterback. So talking
about all the you know, transfer portal rumblings, and now
we're mixing in some basketball as well, all while trying
to you know, digest what just happened in twenty twenty five.
You know, we still we still need to go over,
you know, what allowed bear Backmeyer to do what he
did as a true freshman. Where the areas that BYU
can improve and things of that of that nature.
Speaker 2: Jayden Davis, what he mentioned he's going to be a
backup quarterback. Wasn't he a backup quarterback at Michigan? Why
would he want to come to b YU to be
his backup quarterback?
Speaker 6: That is a really good question, and when I haven't
been able to answer myself because that was my that
was my first reaction. He and he was coming on
a visit.
Speaker 3: I think it was about twenty.
Speaker 6: Four hours after bar Bachmeyer was was going to run
it back. So I don't think there's any question that
bear Bachmeyer is going to be your starting quarterback, and
he was the backup last year at Michigan, So why
why come to BYU? I don't know what my guess
would be. Someone that looks at Aaron Rodericks track record
developing quarterbacks. Maybe if he has a mindset of coming
in and you know, maybe he gets a chance to
play if someone were to get injured or in mop
up time and learn from maryor Roderick and develop himself.
And then, let's be honest, it's a it's a free
agent market every year. So if he develops for a year,
he could always you know, go back in the portal
next year if he if he feels like he's now
in a better position to go land a starting job
somewhere where he wants to end up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a he had an oppressive offer sheet.
Speaker 2: Obviously Lee Alabama, Auburn, Boston College, Clemson obviously ended up
at Michigan. But Duke Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, high
level free four star LSU Louisville. What are his connections
to the state of Utah or b YU.
Speaker 6: Would you say, I'm not aware of any connections he
has to the state. He grew up in North Carolina
if I'm not mistaken. So East Coast kid wasn't really
recruited by b YU out of high school either, which
is rare typically when BYU brings in guys for transfer
visits and things like that they have some sort of
connection with the program. I'm not familiar with any connections
that he has to the state, and he wasn't offered
by b YU out of high school. So I think
this is BYU just picking up the phone and calling,
and he was interested enough to come and see what
what BYU had to offer.
Speaker 2: There was a junior college quarterback commit for a moment.
It sounds like Dante Bell committed on social media that
was seemingly retracted or rescinded. He removed the committed post.
What do we know about Dante Bell? What's happening with
his recruitment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I haven't spoken with Dante specifically since he removed
the post, so I haven't heard from him specifically, So
I don't want to talk for him. But I do
know that in recruiting there's you know, it takes two
sides to communicate, and sometimes they're miscommunications, and so that
I don't ever, you know, want to knock a kid individually,
but I think this was probably a case where there
was a little bit of misunderstanding of you know, what
the opportunity was specifically, or you know, anyway. A lot
of things can happen. But as of right now, he
has visited BYU with as far as I understand, so
he could end up at BYU, but I don't have
him penciled in as a commit at this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be intriguing to see how this off season
plays out with portal acquisitions. It seems like portaling is
the way that BYU has gone for strategic acquisitions. One
of those strategic acquisitions that was brought up to me.
Ryan Eldridge and I were talking about this. He's like,
give me offensive tackle.
Speaker 3: Where are we at?
Speaker 2: Where do we stand with offensive tackle? Would you say
or do you like? Do you like the young bucks,
like the Caden Chittisters, big guys that haven't seen a
whole lot of reps?
Speaker 3: Or are you looking to go portaling? If you're TJ woods.
Speaker 6: Man, I would I would like to see personally what
a guy like Evan Thomason or Andrew Williams could do.
Speaker 5: It has been a.
Speaker 6: While since BYU, you know, brought up and started a
tackle that they recruited out of high school. They primarily
use a transfer portal to find offensive tackles the last
three to four years. But as far as transfer portal goes.
I did mention I think they'll bring in some offensive linemen.
I expect one or two of those to be tackles.
I think names to pay attention to are you know
guys like Junior Sia from Utah State. He announced a
BYU offer. I think that was last week, So he's
a guy that could probably move around. I think he
played at right tackle for Utah State, if I'm not mistaken.
And then there's Luke but Clenklow who was an Oklahoma transfer.
He was a starter at Stanford, transferred to Oklahoma last
year and didn't play too much. He's back in the portal.
He was recruited by BYU out of high school and
he was he was a or at Stanford to tackle.
So those are a few names to watch. I'm I'm
sure there will be a few more that pop up
here and there. But those are two that I had
mentioned in a few articles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of youth that that has potential
at BYU right now in the in the tackle room
obviously have three that left Jake Griffin, he can at
Tupo and Siona Hagano. But I'm intrigued by Kayden Schitister
six 't eight three twenty five Richard sophomore Richfield, Utah.
Speaker 3: Definitely a project guy.
Speaker 2: Andrew Williams also six' EIGHT u and what is He
he's probably around like three oh, five three.
Speaker 3: Fifteen actually he's up to three fifteen right.
Speaker 2: NOW i Think Andrew, williams let me double check now
two ninety. Five he's a little bit light in the
penttalonies right. Now But Ata Kirksville High school really talented.
Speaker 3: Player though.
Speaker 2: You have coc wud lot too few as, well a
Former stamford commit that ended up committing with his brother
to come TO. BUYU i know he was getting some
REPS i think in the two, deep maybe in fall
camp or in practices throughout the.
Speaker 3: Season so he's an interesting.
Speaker 2: Study you have guys Like ethan thomasin also six 't
eight three or. Five there's a lot of, long, athletic
talented tackles that haven't seen MUCH.
Speaker 3: Pt do you have a favorite out of that? Bunch,
WELL i.
Speaker 6: Thought it was notable back in the spring WHEN i
think it Was Isaiah jada was out for a couple of.
Practices he was a little banged. UP i Thought Andrew
williams played pretty well for a, kid brand new out
of high school who was getting first team reps that left.
TACKLE i like him a. Lot i'm really curious to
see How Ethan thomasin looks now that he'll be a
year removed from a. Mission it's pretty hard for offensive
linemen to come off missions and play right, away even
a little bit tougher than skilled. Positions And ethan got
back from his mission last, year so this was his
first year, back and now that he's a year, Removed
I'm i'm curious to see. HIM i think as far
as you, know recruiting profiles, go his was definitely the most.
Prolific So i'm interested to see How ethan. Does he's you,
know that that PROTOTYPICAL byu, guy just a great, kid
and he was he was coveted by a lot of,
Schools SO i would say either Either ethan Or, andrew
although to your, POINT i believe it Was kosua who
came in with the second team offense back in the
season opener WHEN byu emptied the bench Against Portland. State
so all three of them have a legitimate. Shot AND
i think regardless of Who byu add a, TACKLE i
think all three of those guys are absolutely going to
compete for spots in the too deep at. Tackle even
if they don't, start they're probably going to be your.
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you know a lot lots of tumultuous. Times much tumult
has occurred here in the state Of. Utah, Obviously Kyle
whittingham essentially being ushered, out pulled, out pushed out from
his role as head coach of The university Of. Utah
he had a head coach in, Waiting Morgan, scully that
had to wait a long time to become the head,
coach et. Cetera AND, uh forever reason they parted. Ways
kyle witting had steps down he still has juice in the.
Speaker 3: Tank he stills got gas in the.
Speaker 2: Tank and so he takes his talents uh in the
coaching staff portal to The university Of, michigan a top
five job in college football per many opinions out. There
so you, know a couple of days, Ago Melissa Whittingham,
kent the daughter Of Kyle, wheningham went To twitter and, said,
look my dad devoted nearly thirty years of his life
To utah. Football as his, daughter my childhood was shaped
by the sacrifice my dad made For utah.
Speaker 3: Football seeing a lifetime of, loyalty.
Speaker 2: Sacrifice and dedication being dismissed so harshly now was. Heartbreaking
AND i believe he was responding to A Solid tribune
article that was written By Gordon. Monson and you know
there was some you, know some aggressive LANGUAGE i would
say in, it you, know, calling you, know to a certain,
Extent Kyle Witningham, judas he's not just a. Trader he's,
vindictive a, monster trying to destroy a program that he
cared about only as long as his name An eagle
were a chance to. It and He's Diezo bub him
and He's diezo bub himself TO, byu a program for
which he played all those years, ago but thereafter became
a rival whose name he refused to utter while coaching against.
It in stereophonic, sound now from both the north and the.
Speaker 3: South what a? Jerk what a? Punk what a? Trader
what an a? Say? Assault or assemble or? Assassin what an?
Speaker 2: Ingrid now having the gall to stand in front of
a crowd Of wolverine fans At Michigan, basketball gibs a,
shout Go.
Speaker 3: Blue you hope he? Fails you do you hope.
Speaker 2: He he he falls? Short you hope he gets. Fired
you hope all those things what he's, saying though it
was taken out of.
Speaker 3: Context what? What What gordon is?
Speaker 2: Saying you got to read the article AND i know
it's bind to, payball so that's tough for. People but
this has been a little bit of a of a
of a controversy over the last two days because if
you're not you know things that behind the pay well
they're gonna be excerpt or. Excised then you're going to
take certain key, quotes et. CETERA i don't Think gordon's
saying like that's how he. Feels he's saying many in
The utah fan. Base for even THE bau fan, base
that's how they feel About. Kyle that being, said there
are plenty Of utah fans that are excited about the
new era Of utah. Football they felt Like kyle Whitting
have was holding The utah ball program, back that.
Speaker 3: His, time his prime had come. Up he needed to move,
on and he needed to move on.
Speaker 2: Quickly to be determined how good This michigan football team
can be Under Kyle whittingham with his new Staff Jason
beck a great offensive, coordinator And Jay, hill we know
how good of A dc he. Is they were also
able to take away some, coaches key, Coaches Lewis. Powell
that's a nice pickup for. Them they took their streatementitioning. Coach,
right you go down the list of coaches that they've.
Taken they've impacted Both utah and BYU's coaching. Staff as
far as players are, concerned, though check this. Out NO
byu players are going To. Michigan and some people will, say,
well it's probable because those, naysayers those that like to
retort and refute and rebut anything positive that comes out
OF ba they're, like, well it's because by doesn't have
any good.
Speaker 3: Players they're not good enough to play At. Michigan why
would they.
Speaker 2: Take any of ba's players when they're not remember?
Speaker 3: Good, well wait.
Speaker 2: A, second what About Falla, Twala Evan, Johnson. KNATANAVASA a
lot of these guys can play At, Michigan Isaiah, glasker Bear.
Bachmeyer there's a lot of guys that can play at
The university Of, michigan.
Speaker 3: You, know if you just want to stick on the
defensive side of the.
Speaker 2: BALL i named a few of, them, Right there's plenty
of guys on that defensive roster that can play At,
michigan but none of them have. Gone find that interesting
how Many utah players will, Go and we've already seen
how many coaches have. Gone who has been most impacted
by this?
Speaker 3: Move It's. Utah they've been more negatively.
Speaker 2: Impacted, obviously that was the school in Which Kyle whittingham
was at the N, roads et.
Speaker 3: Cetera BUT byu catching.
Speaker 2: Strays here, too and it has caused a bit of
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whittingham ken not happy with all the haters that are
Rowing kyle under the. Bus after thirty years of dedicatory
sacrifice to build up a program that you, know Under
Ronnie mack was pretty, good pretty. Good Urban meyer took
it a step, further and Then Kyle winningham took that
baton and continued with that, success continued with, that you,
know championship.
Speaker 3: Culture and you Wanted, kyle if you WERE i think.
Speaker 2: A respectful Professional utah, fan you wanted him to be
able to sign off peace out on his terms as
a legendary. Coach you didn't want it to be ushered.
Out but enough, donors enough, fans enough administrators, decided.
Speaker 3: You know, What, NO i think It's. Tom now's the.
Time now it's the. Place Morgan scalley needs to be that.
Speaker 2: Guy we'll go to, break we'll come, back try To
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Coordinator Can, kelly what type of emotions do you have
when you're called defensive coordinator for B Yu.
Speaker 5: Just feel extremely, honored. BLESSED i feel Like i've been
prepared for this moment for a long, time going back
to my playing days with With, bronco and my coaching
days With bronco and just his defensive. Mind and THEN
i got a. Credit you, Know Coach howe And Coach
tidwell and Coach, kafusi those guys THAT i was around
for a long, time and then just my time To
virginia and then getting here With. Klawe, Yeah i've just
learned a lot from, him a lot From. Jay jay,
was you, know a great mentoring this, deal and Coach
anderson as, Well Gary. Anderson SO i just feel like
there's been a lot of people put in my path
along the way that have really prepared me for this.
Moment and so they'll. Be, yeah the defense will BE i,
think you, know maybe a little taste Of bronco in,
there a little taste of what we've done last. YEAR
i mean Just i've just learned so, much but the
base of the defense will be what it's, been And
i'd be an idiot to change much of what we're.
Doing but there'll be a little thing here and. There
But i'm just excited and honor for just the opportunity and.
Speaker 2: Grateful a little bit Of, bronco a little bit Of,
jay a little bit Of, kilani a little bit Of,
gary a little bit Of, kyle a little.
Speaker 3: Bit Mopha center, close a little bit.
Speaker 2: More, Hey i'm telling, you, man this is this is
gonna be an interesting time In cougar football history and
another transition a big transition, defensively and K pop is
willing and ready and capable to lead you to glory
victory on the defensive side of the. Ball so, uh he's,
uh like you, said he's bought, in he LOVES, byu
and he's, uh he's up to the task and wants
to take on this massive task to Lead BYU's defense
that has become a top twenty five team in college.
Football did choose to fill no doubt about, It Kelly,
Papinga what is it About, Bronco mendenhall and other influencers
that make you feel prepared for this?
Speaker 3: Role?
Speaker 5: Oh, man there's so many different things From broncos organization
that he. Had his, accountability, discipline. Effort the first defensive
meeting we're going to, have we're going to talk about
those three things that were instilled in me when he
took over this, program and then each, thing Like jay
had a very, similar i would, say structure That bronco
had so very similar in their. Approaches maybe the way
that they said it was, different But i'd learned a
lot of stuff From jay as far as just playing
man free and cover three stuff that they've done, forever you,
know in The Utah Kyle Whittingham tree THAT i learned
a ton from and THEN i just learned From klannie
just the way that his whole, culture this love and
learned culture that it took me a while to kind
of adjust you last TIME i was, here is a
little different way of how he did things With, Bronco
AND i tell people this a lot like a lot
of similarities between the, two just the way that the
message is delivered a little bit, different but, both you,
know great mentors in my life and just excited to
move forward With klonnie and helping me learn more more
about this. Defense AND i feel Like i'm very well,
prepared But i'm sure there's some nuances in, there in
little tidbits that he's going to give me along the
way That i'm excited to learn from and about.
Speaker 2: It Lean On Kilani kilani's gonna be a great mentor
going forward as he makes this transition to jump into
this new role At Brigham Young university as the defensive.
Coordinator Kelly, papiga how were you able to retain so
many defensive players on the, roster a lot of guys coming.
Speaker 3: Back, okay we'll get to that one.
Speaker 2: Here, momentarily we do know that the majority of the
defensive players have been, retained, right the big time, players
the big, names the big, guys the big hitters that
have produced at a high. Level you're still waiting on
maybe a couple of, Names Evan.
Speaker 3: JOHNSON i don't know if that's been.
Speaker 2: Announced but he goes on later in this interview and
he discusses that he feels confident that, well they'll be
able to Retain Evan. Johnson so we'll see how it plays,
out but right, now all positivity on the retention. Front
we haven't cued up. Yet ronald The, Three Matt. Weaver,
okay we'll reload that.
Speaker 3: Here. MOMENTARILY i did get it.
Speaker 2: Quite, okay let's get back to, It, Kelly how were
you able to retain so many defensive players on the?
Speaker 3: Roster?
Speaker 5: Yeah AND i would just say this two. Things Number,
one when the news broke About jay a week, AGO
i think was On New Year's day when it. HAPPENED
i THINK i was sitting down to watch one of the,
games the playoff, games, saying, mine that's today's gonna be
a normal. Day i'm, relaxing mutching some. Football, NOPE i
don't even THINK i. WATCHED i don't THINK i watched.
Anything i'm. Serious i'm like, still, yeah, like who's play.
Speaker 3: Beat?
Speaker 5: Alabama, Yeah i'm, like but it. Was it was just
one of those days where it was constant talk to the,
players letting them. Know and at the, TIME i hadn't
been offered the, job BUT i, was you, Know clannie
AND i had been talking of that whole day and
just kind of feeling the WAY i KNEW i was.
STAYING i wasn't going, anywhere and, so you, know as
just a defensive, COACH i wanted to keep us all
together as much AS i. Could and so you, know
call And foll it's out, immediately And schmid, immediately and
all these different players At glasgow, immediately all these guys
that were key pieces that we knew had a chance
to potentially go to THE nfl or come back or
whatever it may. Be and, yeah that was a lot of.
Work and that was like three days of phone. CALLS i.
WAS i was on the phone Basically, Thursday, Friday saturday
for twelve hours each of those, days and between talking to,
players talking to, coaches AND i wasn't by, myself all
of our other defensive coaches that we're still here were
doing the SAME thingsact, think trying to just keep this
intact and letting everybody see the vision that it. Is and,
ULTIMATELY i just think the players Love. KWANEE i mean
that's that was the, mainstay. Right they knew That klannie
was going to be, here and a lot of those,
GUYS i mean you could say all of them came
to play For. Kawane SO i just think And coachill
would say the same. Thing coachill is a very humble,
guy and he sees, things he, knows he knows how things.
Work is that no person or player is bigger than the.
Program and so this thing is going to continue to move.
Forward and the thing that's great about it IS i
think the players run this deal. Right, OBVIOUSLY us coaches
got to put him in the right positions and and
make sure that we're making the right adjustments and doing
the right. Things but when you have great players in great,
LEADERSHIP i think everything else else takes takes care of.
Itself and count of Tom obossa another one right there
that you, know Immediate Trey. Alexander so that was the
that was the great thing IS i GET i Recruited,
trey and so he texts me immediately when, coach he'll you,
know decided to. Leave he, Said, coach just so you,
KNOW i ain't going, anywhere and he's, like And i'm
gonna call everybody right. Now i'm gonna help you out
to keep everybody here's the. Best he's, Like i'm just, Round,
Coach i'm rallying the. Troops and then about a couple
of hours later he's, Like, coach nobody, leaving nobody's.
Speaker 8: Leaving he basically Told spencer on the post game of
The Pop darts ball and coming back and we're running
it back like he's he's the.
Speaker 5: Best, yeah he's great and great to have. Around so
JUST i, mean there's so many pieces of this thing
and it's not just one, player one. COACH i think
it's just the collective unit that we. Have it's been
special and it all starts With klani and his leadership
and just this culture he has.
Speaker 8: Here he was the biggest portal Gut kloni that he
came out of The porto you will and stay to.
Wy that was mass AND i AGREE i think that
he's by you threw him through and he deserves everything
that he he got AND i just believe. That and
he's been telling, Everybody, Hey i'm not going. Anywhere i'm
going to retire. Here that's what he keeps telling all the.
Recruits and so that's the.
Speaker 5: Home that's a, piece that's a peace of mind, forward
not just players but coaches as. Well we want. Consistency
everybody wants consistency in their, life and that leadership that's
going to continue to be here is going to help
us continue to go.
Speaker 2: Forward love, it great. Story there a lot to take, In.
Ronald i'll hand the mic to.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 2: Man what stood out to you about the retention stories
and what went into it and who they were targeting and,
uh the guys that were advocates For kelly papinga all of.
Speaker 4: It guys that were advocates are a guy that was
the advocate of One, Tree. Alexander you And brett talked
about it in the first hour teased there it. Is trey, said,
COACH i ain't going. Nowhere AND i just think that's.
Speaker 5: Powerful.
Speaker 4: Right we been you AND i thought and to a degree,
Right and maybe other, people maybe fans are a little bit
more That Jay hill gone Follow tile Saw toula gone
Maybe Isaiah glasker, joins wants to play at a high,
level raised that draft stock or goes to the you,
know THE, nfl and this is. Good this is what
you Know kilanie needed to. Do He kilanie will. Rebuild
and BECAUSE i felt like a lot of the time
been in the last couple of weeks and tell me
if you. AGREE i felt like a lot of people
have been, like, Oh kline's success is because of J,
hill AND i was getting that vibe in and notion, Like,
okay yes he has been successful because of J hill leading.
Defense But kilani built has been building this thing for
a very long. Time there's a reason they retained. Him
there's a reason that they gave him the pay. Raise
there's a reason that they couldn't let him go out
while he's The polynesian. Level all of these things are
going through my, brain AND i felt like a lot
of knee jerk reaction was If Jay hill, leaves the
sky is falling and now you're not starting to see.
THAT i, mean look at how many starters are coming.
Back look at That Bear, BACHMEIER. Lj, Martin Parker, kingston
what is it safar? Choke look at how defensive Guys,
Fosatuala Isaiah, Glaster Kanatano. Vasa you Got Trey alexander coming
back or waiting here On. Treumavleck so if all of
those guys come, Back, ben YOUR, dc who had a
top twenty defense left and went To michigan and took his.
Cornerbacks coach you bringing Tomorrow, Warren and you see the
post of trade ready to get to. Work you See
Tommy prass's posting excited for like you see guys doing, That,
ben you gotta go get a little bit more. Debt
but like when you see dudes doing, that that lets
you know that the culture is what really stands. Out
And Kelly, Popinkin, Look i'm gonna be, Honest, Kelly Kelly
papinka was built for this. Moment for the Fact ben
that he was leading these phone calls tells me that
he was built to be the defensive coordinator before he
was on this. Earth jeremiah one, five BEFORE i knew
the end Of, Belly i'm GOING i, KNOW i know
you're gonna find it one, Funny i'm going that. Route
for the fact that he was on a, calling he said, Later,
ah it was all of our defensive. Cordinators yeah, Right,
kelly like you were the one, leader you were a,
leader you're defensive. Guys all the calls like he's a
born leader and this was. Great hire the right. Hire
the rest of the hires are great in the, promotions.
RIGHT i don't want to take away from, that But
kelly's been doing this for a very very long. Time
well deserve your, teammate you know as well as you
know more about him THAN i. Do but from Everything
i've seen and, INTERACTED i am privileged to have talked
a few times To Kelly piping AND i can't wait
to see what he does been as his first year
As bou's defensive.
Speaker 2: Coordinator boom shot A LOCKE a couple of last things,
Here what type of validation are you feeling right now
to retain these defensive? Players K pop's all, right it's
not loading right, now but maybe well let's take a.
Speaker 3: Break we'll come.
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cougar's obviously tumbling.
Speaker 5: Man and LIKE i, SAID i feel. HONORED i was
on a group thread with a bunch of, formers my,
Teammates Brian, Kill David, Nixon. Banker all these.
Speaker 8: Guys is Its i'm not on that one they do
all the trash on the coaches on.
Speaker 5: That i'm on another one Where harvey are on, anyway
and it just it WAS i just told, them, guys,
ultimately WHAT i want to do is represent the program
the best way we can and put a product on
the field that makes you guys, proud BECAUSE i mean
even WHEN i was at The University, VIRGINIA i felt
the same way as, LIKE i still had pride IN
byu and this is WHERE i, played and SO i
want that product to be something where those guys can
walk around and you, know wherever they're at the, office
around the, neighborhood and they can walk around and be,
like oh, yeah THAT byu. Defense that's that's who we,
Are that's what we wanted to. Be and SO i
just feel that our players see that. VISION i think
WHAT i had in advantage of maybe other over other
candidates was they knew HOW i coached special. TEAMS i
was in front of the team every single. DAY i
talked to the team more than any other coach on our.
Staff that's just the role of the special teams. Coordinator
you're talking.
Speaker 3: To the whole entire.
Speaker 5: Team SO i felt LIKE i had a good vibe
of what the team, was not just, defensively but offensively as,
well because you're just coaching all those guys all the,
time and SO i was front of. THEM i was
in front of it every single. Day SO i think they.
Knew we're, Like, okay this is what he did on special.
Teams i'm sure he's going to be very similar to
the way that he is those as things as a defensive.
Coordinator and SO i think when they knew me and
they knew kind of what they were gonna get a little,
bit BUT i honestly don't think it's.
Speaker 3: A lot some of.
Speaker 5: It i'll give me a little bit bit of that
piece that they came back for, that BUT i think
a lot of it was just it comes back To
clonnie and it comes back to the. Players LIKE i
just think they felt, like whoever the coordinator, is, guys
we're gonna figure this out if we all stay. Together
AND i just give credit to those, guys and you,
KNOW i mean, great you guys already mentioned a lot of.
Them those are great. Players and to get those guys
back on a twelve and two team a team that
was top twenty in defense. Statistically, YEAH i just got
to make sure we stay out of the way and
don't screw too much. Up because we just put these
guys in the right, positions we're gonna be just. Fine
there you.
Speaker 2: Go and last, thing last, Thing oh, WELL i GUESS
i should probably comment on that we do have a
band of brothers. Thread, yes there's the Original, bob so
that everybody. Knows this was a basketball. Thread we were getting.
Together it was a kind of a basketball slash golf
thread where we get, together et. Cetera and then we'd
also talk. Ball and as there has been times where
there is criticism heaped on the, team, players coaches at,
time whatever it may, be we'll keep it in the.
Speaker 3: Thread that's the rule of the. Thread keep it in the.
Speaker 4: Thread those, threads he keep it in the.
Speaker 3: Thread but we do have.
Speaker 2: It there is another thread and, obviously, uh you, know
we were all looped in on, it and, uh just
what K pop. Said he's, Like, HEY i just want
to create a defense that everyone of you guys can
be proud of.
Speaker 3: Him we believe he. Can't it's always, look it's always
a scary. Thing as as an.
Speaker 2: Alum uh as a former player going back and coaching
at your alma, mater it can be a scary or
too because like you, know you don't want your legacy
tarnished uh as a, Player, uh you know through your
coaching right and AND K pop is one of those
guys that has just and Obviously. Killane they've done a
phenomenal job of ELEVATING i think their legacy as for
more players are now as.
Speaker 3: Coaches but it's a it's a a very stressful. Thing
it can be a very stressful.
Speaker 2: Thing but, like do you get any sense at all
whatsoever that he's, nervous that he doesn't feel, prepared that
he doesn't feel, confident that he doesn't feel like like
he's he's very.
Speaker 4: Confident he's got a swagger about it THAT i, like he's, like.
Speaker 3: This is my. Time and So i'm Pretty i'm pretty.
Speaker 2: Stoked i'm pretty stoked to see WHAT K pop can
do as the defensive coordinator FOR B WHY.
Speaker 4: I only have one question for, You, Ben he had
talked about over two hundred text. MESSAGES i haven't seen
a post from. YOU i need to, know is Is
Kelly pepina gonna Take Ben krittle has been critical going
into the, portal Is Big critic gonna be down and
be what he'll we? Get like an official twenty twenty
six announcement Of Big critical running.
Speaker 3: Back, look you never, know, Man. Ronnie you know LIKE i,
WORK i work enough LIKE i know you. Do that's.
Speaker 4: Funny raised my.
Speaker 3: Children i'm trying to let like the young bucks like you.
Speaker 2: And G man who's, single ready to, mingle like you,
KNOW i want to hand this stuff off to you.
Speaker 3: Guys you guys can really just take.
Speaker 4: IT i just had to be right there with.
Speaker 3: That, no because IF i got into, coaching oh, man
that's that's that's.
Speaker 4: Look all ALL i gotta say is when they let
at The alumni, game bing crittled B dc and you
were being Coach, crittle you, know not Brother, crittle because
when you're being Brother, crittle you were letting everybody. Play
when you were Coach, Crittle, uh it was a no fly.
Zone that's ALL i have to.
Speaker 3: Say, exactly you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Mean, like no one wants to be, hated you, know
but you gotta in competitive situations when you want to,
win you gotta you gotta. Refine you gotta limit your
rotations a little. Bit you, Know i'm a limited of.
ROTATIONS i typically want to bring my guys into a
trust and SOMETIMES i got a little bit outside myself.
Speaker 3: Trying to be the nice.
Speaker 2: Guy, anyway last, thing and it's a debate we've Had Damorial.
Warren why Was Damorio warren the new quarterback coach and
play the passing game coordinator for the, defense the right
fit for B yu and you k.
Speaker 5: Pop WHEN i was At Boise state for that, year
it was it became clear to me IF i ever
was in a position to hire, him that was going
to be my first. Call and so initially When gennaro was,
here there was about a day there where With jenna
AND i thought we're going to be doing this. Together
and then you, know an opportunity came for him to
go To. Michigan we're going to have him come coach in.
Safety so it was gonna Be gennaro at the corners
and that was our first call no matter. What and
then When gennaro decided to make his, decision THEN i
immediately called The mario back and, said, hey, LISTEN i
want you to be our pass game. Coordinator With gennaro
leaving and so that was that was easy for me to.
Do there was nobody on the. List there was one,
guy and we went after him hard to make sure
that he got, here and he did not want to
Leave Boise, state And Boise state fought, back but ultimately
he came met with the, administration you, know our vice
president and, president met With, brian met With, klawnie and
he left that day sold like. This he saw the
vision and he sees the the uniqueness of What bay
you can provide as far as just the family, atmosphere
AND i just think he felt like this was the
right place at the right. Time So i'm excited to
get him. Here and he's already. Working he's been on
the phones with portal guys all day to day working on.
Corners we need a couple of corners to replace and
build our. Depth BUT i think what people are going
to see is a super hard, worker a great, recruiter
a guy that's been a head, coach that's very organized and.
STRUCTURED i sat on a sat in the meeting with
recruit recruit the other day with, him AND i was like,
WOW i mean just just sitting there and listening to
him coach this kid and the techniques and fundamentals and
the details of. IT i was, like this is more and.
Great you wanted to go play? Again, YEAH i. WAS
i was just, like we're in great. Hands our corners
are going to be in a great spot and great,
positions and our safeties are going to be coached by
this guy too as. Well there are past our past
game should be very very good and it's been, great
so just excited to build on.
Speaker 2: That and to that, POINT i mean they're going to
bring in a safety's, coach, right but uh, YEAH i
mean he's the passing game of, coordinator so he we'll
oversee the back end of that defense.
Speaker 3: Tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Warren and Like i've, Said i've been, Honest i've been forth.
RIGHT i don't Know tomorrio all that. Well ALL i
have is my, resume his resume in front of, me
AND i was, like, LOOK i don't know if this
is the right. HIRE i trust K. Pop it's not
THAT i, DON'T i Just i'm, like all, right like
big shoes to, fill.
Speaker 3: RIGHT i was a little.
Speaker 2: Hesitan and then after try talking with Bj, RANGE i
said HE i came, Away i'm, Like i'm a lot
more optimistic about the future of that secondary and, uh
you're gonna couple that with some good gas in that
in that cornerbacks.
Speaker 3: Room you always need some good, gas some good developmental. Guys.
Uh AND i can't wait to see what happens with,
that with that back end of the.
Speaker 2: Defense with Tomorrow warren now leading the cornerbacks and the, safeties.
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