WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:03.279 What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03.279 --> 00:00:07.960 Epstein Chronicles. Over at Fortune dot com, they have a 3 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.759 new article out and in that article, they're diving deep 4 00:00:11.160 --> 00:00:16.440 into how Jeffrey Epstein leveraged his friendship and his ties 5 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.760 to Bill Gates and the un to help control the 6 00:00:20.760 --> 00:00:25.079 women in his orbit. And this is a pretty extensive article, 7 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.320 so we're going to do it in a couple of parts. 8 00:00:28.839 --> 00:00:31.199 So with that said, I'll keep my winging to a 9 00:00:31.239 --> 00:00:34.439 minimum and we'll dive right in. This article was published 10 00:00:34.479 --> 00:00:37.880 by Fortune dot Com and the headline how Jeffrey Epstein 11 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:42.200 leveraged a prestigious, un affiliated nonprofit and the Gates Foundation 12 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:46.359 to control women and keep them in his orbit. This 13 00:00:46.479 --> 00:00:51.679 article was authored by Jessica Matthews. On September twelfth, twenty fifteen, 14 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:55.920 more than three dozen health experts and diplomats assembled at 15 00:00:55.920 --> 00:01:00.640 the Palace the Nations, the United Nations European headquarters in Geneva, 16 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:05.439 for a day long conference on preparing for pandemics. The 17 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.239 biobook for the event, hosted by the International Peace Institute 18 00:01:09.400 --> 00:01:12.680 and acclaimed think tank affiliated with the United Nations that 19 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:16.120 works to settle and prevent armed conflicts, and was run 20 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:18.719 by one of the key architects of the Oslo Accords, 21 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:23.200 was a who's who of health experts and policymakers. Scheduled 22 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:26.719 attendees and speakers included the Director General of the World 23 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:31.159 Health Organization, president of the Institute of Medicine, the President 24 00:01:31.400 --> 00:01:34.840 of the National Academy of Medicine and associate director of 25 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:38.200 the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, and a senior 26 00:01:38.239 --> 00:01:42.359 executive from the Gates Foundation, the philanthropic institution that at 27 00:01:42.359 --> 00:01:47.640 the time made up some of twenty percent of IPI's contributions. 28 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:52.200 So as you can see a very very formidable force, 29 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:56.079 a group that has a lot of sway, a group 30 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:58.239 that has a lot of pull, and a group that's 31 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:03.040 backed by a lot of powerful, rich people. And that 32 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:07.760 was the exact kind of environment where Jeffrey Epstein thrived. 33 00:02:08.560 --> 00:02:12.280 Among the attendees that gathered that morning at the palace 34 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:16.319 for the discussion was Feltlana puss A diva who, by 35 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:20.159 her own admission, had no expertise in epidemiology or foreign aid. 36 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.560 Puss A diva, a former Russian model who was then 37 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.319 thirty one, had been so called assistant to Jeffrey Epstein 38 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.879 for about five years. She had shown up to the 39 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:33.199 event wearing a dress Epstein had bought her in Paris 40 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.520 and instructed her aware, and that was his ZMO right. 41 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:40.680 He would have these women show up at these conferences, 42 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:44.159 these science fairs, whether they were accompanied by him or not, 43 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:48.560 and the hook would be set. The only question would 44 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:51.840 be who was going to take the bait, And unfortunately, 45 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:54.599 for a lot of these scumbags, they all did. I mean, 46 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:56.479 the number of these people that were in business with 47 00:02:56.520 --> 00:03:00.000 Epstein is absurd. The number of people that we taught 48 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:01.800 talk about that should have been caught up in a 49 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.479 Rico case absurd. And I'm never going to stop talking 50 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.960 about it, because if it was you or me, or 51 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.879 anyone you cared about Rico, forget it. Under the prison 52 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:17.439 sending you to Florence, that's how serious they take it usually. 53 00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:20.719 I mean, for wire fraud alone, you're looking out what 54 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.599 a twenty piece And of course they were committing wire 55 00:03:24.680 --> 00:03:27.479 fraud on a regular basis. Never mind the structuring, never 56 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.520 mind the immigration fraud. If you don't even believe the trafficking, 57 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:34.439 what about all that other stuff, What about all of 58 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:38.240 the other criminality that was occurring in Jeffrey Epstein's orbit 59 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:41.159 amongst all these people. Does that not matter? Because I 60 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:45.560 assure you it matters to me. In an interview with Fortune, 61 00:03:45.719 --> 00:03:48.439 Posadaiva said that Epstein had told her she would be 62 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:51.560 working closely with both the International Peace Institute and the 63 00:03:51.599 --> 00:03:54.599 Gates Foundation to orchestrate the whole event. I'll be in 64 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.360 the middle of it, helping coordinate the whole project. That's 65 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:01.960 how he positioned it to me. She said, Well, yeah, 66 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:04.879 Epstein's going to sell you rainbows and sunshine, but what 67 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:09.159 he delivers is nothing but a storm, and on paper 68 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.000 that seemed true. Terry Rod Larson, who was then CEO 69 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:16.199 of IPI, would go on to sign a personal recommendation 70 00:04:16.279 --> 00:04:19.560 letter for a POSA Divas via application, a copy of 71 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:23.199 which emerged in the Epstein files earlier this year, stating 72 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:26.680 that she held an active and lead role coordinating follow 73 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.920 up meetings for the event and that without her extraordinary efforts, 74 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.879 the fundraising would not have reached the levels it reached. 75 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.040 Immigration fraud, that's all it is. That's all it was, 76 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:38.959 that's all it ever will be, And nobody talks about 77 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:40.800 it like it's no big deal. But it's one of 78 00:04:40.800 --> 00:04:43.920 the key elements of trafficking. So for all the people 79 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.560 out there that don't believe it was trafficking, sit down 80 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.399 and shut up already. In fact, why don't you do 81 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:51.240 us all a favor and go talk about the new 82 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:55.439 shiny object aliens. You know, the same people who don't 83 00:04:55.480 --> 00:04:57.920 believe the Epstein stuff all of a sudden believe that 84 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:01.319 the aliens or demons and their com here from another dimension. 85 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:04.160 Fuck out of here with all of that you want demons, 86 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:06.759 We're talking about him right here. And this is about 87 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:09.480 what the tenth fifteenth time that there is proof that 88 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.360 there was immigration fraud going on that nobody ever cared about, 89 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.759 nobody ever investigated, nobody ever went to prison for. How 90 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:19.600 was Epstein able to manipulate that? Who in the government, 91 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:23.079 the State Department was helping him out? I guess we'll 92 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.360 never know, right, because we're just gonna move on. Hey, 93 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:27.560 have you heard about the four foot green men that 94 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:31.160 came here from planet Neptar? In hindsight, pos A Diva 95 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:35.000 now sees the IPI job Epstein routed to her as 96 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:37.000 one of the hooks he used to keep me around, 97 00:05:37.279 --> 00:05:40.600 yet another promise of career opportunities she could only obtain 98 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:46.000 through him. That ultimately never materialized. Pos A Diva's experience 99 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.839 was part of a larger pattern. Yet that's how they 100 00:05:48.879 --> 00:05:52.120 controlled things. How many people have to come out and 101 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:54.480 tell you that. How many more people have to come 102 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.720 forward and say, yeah, this is what was happening. He 103 00:05:56.759 --> 00:05:59.360 would take our passport, they would take our you know, 104 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:06.319 immigration paperwork, and we'd be basically slaves. Epstein introduced IPI 105 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:10.360 to the Gates Foundation in twenty thirteen, closely advising IPI 106 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.319 employees on what to say and how to obtain the 107 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:16.959 initial five million dollar donation to IPI, and working beyond 108 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.800 the scenes with an advisor to then Microsoft chairman Bill 109 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:24.279 Gates to stimulate interest and speed up the process. Remember 110 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:25.720 when Bill Gates said he had nothing to do with 111 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:28.160 Epstein and that the only kind of contact they had 112 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:31.079 had to do with philanthropy. Now, I know this is 113 00:06:31.079 --> 00:06:32.959 going to come as a shock to you, but Bill 114 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:35.759 Gates is a liar. He lied then and he's still 115 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:43.279 lying now. The Gates Foundation would become extraordinarily significant donor 116 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.439 relationship for the next three years, with the IRS record 117 00:06:46.519 --> 00:06:49.560 showing that donations from the Gates Foundation made up more 118 00:06:49.600 --> 00:06:54.160 than twenty percent of IPI's annual donations between twenty thirteen 119 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:58.680 and twenty fifteen. And I'm sure that all of that 120 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:01.519 money was coming from legitis. I'm sure that none of 121 00:07:01.560 --> 00:07:05.360 that money came from laundering or human trafficking or insert 122 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:07.720 scam here. And it's wild to me that Bill Gates 123 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.279 actually thought that he could get away with it, that 124 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:13.279 he could just you know, rewrite history and try and 125 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.399 rebuild and rebrand his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein when the 126 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:20.040 evidence is right here. Epstein would also be involved in 127 00:07:20.079 --> 00:07:23.079 gifts totaling nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars from private 128 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:27.519 equity titan Leon Black to IPI. In return, Epstein used 129 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:31.199 leverage he garnered with IPI's leadership to offer jobs or 130 00:07:31.240 --> 00:07:34.439 secure US visa recommendation letters for at least four women 131 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.879 in his orbit. And I'm sure he was just bringing 132 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.240 them over because he's a good guy, right, just wanted 133 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:42.160 to help them out. I'm doing this for the betterment 134 00:07:42.240 --> 00:07:45.319 of humanity. I'm just an altruistic guy, and I want 135 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:49.560 to make sure that everybody has a shot. Emails released 136 00:07:49.600 --> 00:07:53.000 by the Department of Justice earlier this year, alongside Posadiva 137 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.839 and another assistance personal accounts show while Epstein used and 138 00:07:56.920 --> 00:08:00.439 leveraged the brands of a respected thing tank and one 139 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:03.759 of the most important philanthropic institutions in the world as 140 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.279 instruments to control and traffic women, all while he was 141 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.680 already known to be a registered sex offender. Except where 142 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:14.399 otherwise noted mentions of emails, text messages, and documents refer 143 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:19.360 to items released publicly by the DOJ. So nothing's going 144 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:23.639 to happen, unfortunately. But there's ample evidence of a large 145 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:28.279 scale immigration fraud operation, and nobody's ever dug deep into that. 146 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.920 Nobody's ever looked into that with the sort of rigor 147 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:35.480 that it deserves, And anytime you talk about it, all 148 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:38.639 you get is a half assed answer, Oh, well, you know, 149 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:42.120 it wasn't a ricocase, so they didn't even look at that. Well, 150 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.039 that's part of the big problem, right, that it wasn't 151 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.519 a RICO case from the very beginning. How many more 152 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.480 elements do we need to see to prove to everybody 153 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:53.200 out there that this was a criminal enterprise. Again, even 154 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:55.960 if you don't believe that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in 155 00:08:56.320 --> 00:09:01.000 large scale blackmailing of people, large scale you know, trafficking children, 156 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:04.279 how can you deny the criminality of the empire that 157 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:06.240 he was running, and the fact that people are so 158 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:08.679 willing to overlook that to try and push a narrative 159 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:12.919 that Epstein's a hoax. It's very telling. After his two 160 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.080 thousand and eight conviction for soliciting an underage woman for 161 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.440 prostitution a child, Epstein began recruiting young looking foreign women 162 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:23.600 over the age of eighteen who were abroad or already 163 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:26.919 within the US. Remember how I told you that he 164 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.879 changed it up. This is what they're talking about. Epstein 165 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:36.039 wasn't a dumb person, vile, disgusting, gross, not dumb, not 166 00:09:36.080 --> 00:09:38.360 when it comes to this shit. Bro knew what he 167 00:09:38.399 --> 00:09:41.360 was doing and he was good at it. But the 168 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.840 thing is he couldn't do it alone. He needed help. 169 00:09:44.320 --> 00:09:47.399 And all those people, vast majority of them, are still 170 00:09:47.480 --> 00:09:51.360 roaming the streets free. Epstein began recruiting them on the 171 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:55.679 promise of jobs, education, and career opportunity, a pattern documented 172 00:09:55.720 --> 00:09:58.759 by women, and there are personal accounts in several lawsuits 173 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.519 in the years since. Died by suicide, allegedly in a 174 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:06.279 jail cell, often referring to them as his assistants. Epstein 175 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:10.159 helped them to obtain visas and pay for their accommodation, clothing, 176 00:10:10.480 --> 00:10:15.080 and education, later demanding gratitude and obedience to his commands 177 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.879 and conveying that they owed him for his generosity. If 178 00:10:18.879 --> 00:10:21.159 that's not a human trafficking ring, I don't know what is. 179 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.720 So can we dispel the myth that Epstein wasn't doing this? 180 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:29.480 He most certainly was, And as much as we've talked 181 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:33.679 about it, the scale is so much larger than we 182 00:10:33.799 --> 00:10:38.039 even know. Sometimes he would pay for or demand that 183 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:41.080 they recruit other women. Many of these assistants were from 184 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:44.000 Russia or Eastern Europe, some of them poor and still 185 00:10:44.080 --> 00:10:48.039 learning English, and they became dependent on Epstein for visas, housing, 186 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:52.879 and money. Several of the assistants, including Posadaiva and another 187 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.519 who shared her personal account with Fortune, say they were 188 00:10:55.559 --> 00:10:59.399 repeatedly sexually abused by Epstein during the course of their 189 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.799 time in his work. That was part of the job. 190 00:11:03.480 --> 00:11:05.519 Oh I'm gonna hook you up, but you got to 191 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:10.120 do X, Y and Z for me and maybe my buddies. Hey, 192 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:12.320 go see leon, Hey, why don't you come over and 193 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:16.039 give so and so a massage? Oh you don't want to, Well, maybe, 194 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.720 just maybe I'll lose your immigration paperwork, and then what 195 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:23.960 Epstein had complete control of these women over every decision 196 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:27.080 they made, whatever they did, wherever they went, it was 197 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.320 up to Epstein, and all of it was rooted in 198 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:31.639 fear of what Epstein would do if they said no. 199 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.159 Epstein's regular engagement with politicians and tech executives, and his 200 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.879 affiliation with prominent institutions like the International Peace Institute or 201 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:46.279 the Gates Foundation, legitimized Epstein, according to Posadiva, and made 202 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:49.600 her hesitant to question whether the career opportunities he was 203 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:53.600 offering were real or not. That certainly played a part. 204 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:57.559 And when we talk about refurbishing and building Epstein's reputation up, 205 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:01.559 this is what I mean. If all these quote unquote 206 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:05.320 legitimate people are around them, accepting them and being part 207 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.840 of his little crew, then some foreign girl from Russia 208 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:12.240 or insert Eastern European country here isn't going to know 209 00:12:12.279 --> 00:12:16.679 any better what we were gonna blame her. It was normalized, 210 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:19.320 she was groomed, she was brought over, and this is 211 00:12:19.360 --> 00:12:21.919 supposedly the way that life goes if you're one of 212 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:26.399 Epstein's people. Meanwhile, what was happening issue was kept in 213 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.440 human captivity. And I know people don't want us hear it, 214 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:34.840 but it's the truth. Being able to meet tech executives 215 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:37.159 or prime ministers when you come from a small country 216 00:12:37.360 --> 00:12:40.919 or from Russia or Ukraine, it changes your perspective. She says. 217 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:44.360 If someone like this comes to Epstein's house, maybe it's 218 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:47.279 me who doesn't understand something here. And that's what it 219 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.039 comes down to. When it's normalized by everybody around you, 220 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:55.159 then it's normal. Another former assistant, who Fortune is referring 221 00:12:55.200 --> 00:12:57.600 to as Marna, in an effort to protect her identity 222 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.240 from becoming known, pulled Fortune in an interview that Epstein's 223 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.480 proximity to important people and witnessing him leverage those relationships 224 00:13:05.679 --> 00:13:08.080 as if they owed him something, made the threats he 225 00:13:08.200 --> 00:13:11.600 made or the stories he told all feel equally true. 226 00:13:12.720 --> 00:13:15.679 For a foreign woman in her twenties with limited English, 227 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.919 that framing was very powerful. She said it made him 228 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:23.720 seem untouchable. In response to the comment for this story, 229 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:26.759 an IPI spokesperson said in a statement that the think 230 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:29.919 tank continues to be very troubled by the documents released 231 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:33.759 recently by the US Department of Justice relating to Jeffrey Epstein, 232 00:13:34.159 --> 00:13:37.279 and that in joint with those around the world who 233 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:41.440 have expressed solidarity with the survivors of Epstein's wrongdoing. Yeah, 234 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.639 the crimes and wrongdoings that you helped perpetuate. That's what 235 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:49.559 you're talking about, because that's what happened. People like you 236 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:53.759 giving Jeffrey Epstein credibility and this veneer of armour that 237 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.720 led directly to Epstein doing what he did for so long. 238 00:13:57.679 --> 00:14:00.399 IPI is aware of the connection that once existed between 239 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:04.480 Epstein and IPI's former president, Terry Rod Larson, a connection 240 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:09.159 IPI acknowledged in twenty twenty when it announced mister Larson's resignation. 241 00:14:10.080 --> 00:14:13.399 IPI no longer has contact with mister Larson or his 242 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:17.399 executive staff, the statement said. The Gates Foundation said in 243 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.320 a statement that the harm Epstein inflicted on women and 244 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:23.480 girls was horrific and no one should ever have to 245 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:27.440 experience what they did. It's deeply troubling. Without our knowledge, 246 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.799 Epstein used the Gates Foundation's name the further his agenda. 247 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:34.320 What did you think was going to happen? You didn't 248 00:14:34.360 --> 00:14:37.320 come into this blind. This man was already a convicted 249 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:41.039 sex offender. Why are you at his house? Why are 250 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:43.039 you looking for charity from him? Why are you doing 251 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:48.240 anything with him? There's been no evidence suggesting that Rod 252 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:52.000 Larson was personally involved in abusing any women himself, nor 253 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.320 that he was aware that Epstein was abusing the women 254 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.480 he helped procure jobs and visas. Four Okay, sure if 255 00:14:58.480 --> 00:15:02.799 you say so, law firm representing Rod Larson pointed Fortune 256 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:06.759 to statements it's issued in recent weeks on Rod Larson's behalf, 257 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:10.679 including from his lawyer John Christian Elden, who said earlier 258 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:14.679 this year that Rod Larson has previously expressed regret for 259 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:18.000 his association with Epstein and has clearly distanced himself from 260 00:15:18.039 --> 00:15:21.720 Epstein's actions. He has expressed deep sympathy for those affected 261 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.840 and acknowledges that, in hindsight, he should have exercised greater caution. 262 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:30.279 A representative for Black did not respond to Fortune's requests 263 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.559 for comment. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up episode 264 00:15:33.559 --> 00:15:36.159 one right here, and in the next episode, we're gonna 265 00:15:36.200 --> 00:15:39.399 pick up where we left off. All the information that 266 00:15:39.440 --> 00:15:42.879 goes with this episode can be found in the description box. 267 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.879 What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 268 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.919 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up 269 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.559 where we left off with a Fortune article talking about 270 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:57.559 Jeffrey Epstein, the un and Bill Gates once again. This 271 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.279 article was authored by Jessica Matt. It was Jeffrey Epstein 272 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:06.519 who first introduced the Gates Foundation and IPI. Epstein VIA's 273 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:10.200 friendship with its president. Rod Larson had already been tied 274 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.399 to IPI for a few years. By twenty eleven, Rod 275 00:16:13.440 --> 00:16:16.720 Larson was visiting Epstein's house in New York City and 276 00:16:16.799 --> 00:16:20.080 had stayed in his home in Paris and visited the island. 277 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:23.639 In twenty thirteen, he personally borrowed one hundred and thirty 278 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.879 thousand from Epstein, as was first reported by the investigative 279 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:33.720 outlet DN and later confirmed in DOJ emails. Emails released 280 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.679 earlier this year by the Department of Justice showed the 281 00:16:36.720 --> 00:16:41.720 extent to which the relationship was professionally intertwined. Yeah, it 282 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:46.240 was a very deep relationship. Now. I know Terry Larson 283 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:49.000 wants to lie here and say that that's not true, 284 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:52.840 but we have the evidence to see for ourselves, and 285 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:55.559 nobody's writing those kinds of emails back and forth if 286 00:16:55.559 --> 00:17:01.159 they're not buddies. Rod Larson regul Lee turned to Epstein 287 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:05.000 for fundraising advice and sent them private IPI documents or 288 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:09.799 exchanges to review. Several other IPI employees, including the director 289 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:13.960 of its Vienna office, corresponded with Epstein via email. Epstein 290 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.519 sponsored a fellowship with IPI in twenty twelve, and an 291 00:17:18.559 --> 00:17:21.599 email shows that IPI was trying to arrange payment to 292 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:27.119 Epstein for serving on IPI's Mongolian Presidential Advisory Board, where 293 00:17:27.119 --> 00:17:29.680 Epstein and a group of others gave direct advice to 294 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.519 the then Mongolian president. I can't even pronounce this guy's name, 295 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:39.640 something something Elba Gorge, no idea, but like, what's Epstein 296 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:43.599 doing in Mongolia? I thought he was just a loan predator, 297 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:46.200 just a guy with some messed up proclivities who you know, 298 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.119 might have targeted a couple of people, but that's it. Meanwhile, 299 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:52.519 this m effort is in the middle of all kinds 300 00:17:52.559 --> 00:17:56.160 of crazy shit, whether it's the promised software, whether it's Africa, 301 00:17:56.359 --> 00:18:00.279 whether it's Mongolia, whether it's Afghanistan. There's no so far 302 00:18:00.359 --> 00:18:04.799 flung province that Epstein wasn't interested in. By the time 303 00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:08.160 that Epstein introduced Bill Gates to IPI senior leadership in 304 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.960 March of twenty thirteen, around the time of a meeting 305 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:14.880 at the residence of then Nobel Committee chair for Burn Jaglind. 306 00:18:15.400 --> 00:18:18.440 Epstein had already been working behind the scenes to secure 307 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.880 the donation, and he'd also been working to try and 308 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:24.240 get Bill Gates that Nobel Peace Prize. Remember, that's what 309 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.680 Bill Gates wanted, That's what he was chasing, and he 310 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.400 was trying to use Epstein to get there. He had 311 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:34.359 been corresponding with Boris Nikolch, Bill gates then advisor and 312 00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:38.599 someone who regularly interfaced with Epstein about IPI, sending him 313 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:42.440 information about the institute and its work to eradicate polio 314 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.160 for Nicolch to relate to Gates at the end of 315 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:49.920 twenty twelve email show. Over the next several months, Epstein 316 00:18:49.960 --> 00:18:54.400 would work meticulously reviewing and editing emails to Gates Foundation 317 00:18:54.519 --> 00:18:59.000 employees and pushing Nickeolch about the donation. I thought he 318 00:18:59.119 --> 00:19:03.920 wasn't that close to them. Isn't that what Nikolitch told us? Meanwhile, 319 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:06.519 Nikolich was one of the backups when it comes to 320 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:10.319 executors for Epstein's will. And Nikolich is another dude that's 321 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.640 out here talking about Oh, I hardly knew the guy. 322 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:14.759 You're not going to be made the executor of a 323 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:18.279 will of somebody that doesn't know you. Over the next 324 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.559 several months, Epstein would work meticulously reviewing and editing emails 325 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:26.119 to Gates Foundation employees and pushing Nikolich about the donation. 326 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.079 In a statement to Fortune, a spokesperson for Nickolach said 327 00:19:30.359 --> 00:19:33.839 as the email showed discussions between IPI and the foundation 328 00:19:34.400 --> 00:19:39.200 focused on expanding polio vaccine access in underserved areas. Declining 329 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:43.079 to comment further, Bill approved the five million. Epstein wrote 330 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:46.039 to the head of IPI's Vienna office when giving her 331 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:50.519 advice about an upcoming conversation with the foundation, ask them 332 00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:53.880 if they read your analysis of the situation. He said 333 00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:59.279 Epstein's efforts were fruitful. In twenty thirteen, the Gates Foundation 334 00:19:59.359 --> 00:20:03.359 committed five million dollars to IPI to support polio eradication, 335 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.960 and Epstein himself emailed Nikolicch the wiring instructions for the money. Oh, 336 00:20:08.960 --> 00:20:11.759 I'm sure it all went to polio. I'm sure nobody 337 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:15.119 patted their pockets. Do you really think Jeffrey Epstein didn't 338 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:18.359 get pieced off? Of all people? You already know that 339 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:23.160 Epstein made some money on that deal. It wouldn't stop there. 340 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:27.240 Over the next seven years, between twenty thirteen and twenty twenty, 341 00:20:27.480 --> 00:20:30.039 the Gates Foundation donated more than eight and a half 342 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.960 million to IPI. Public records from the foundation show and 343 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:35.680 I'm sure all of it's on the up and up right. 344 00:20:35.880 --> 00:20:38.079 I'm sure none of it came from ill gotten gains, 345 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.039 and I'm sure all of it was routed exactly where 346 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:43.680 it was supposed to go. Oh wait, that didn't happen, 347 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:48.079 got it at the onset? Emails released by the Department 348 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:50.599 of Justice showed that Nikolitch was trying to speed up 349 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.240 the grant making process, which he said in an email 350 00:20:53.319 --> 00:20:56.720 typically took six to nine months. We're trying to accelerate, 351 00:20:56.799 --> 00:20:58.799 he wrote in an email to Abstein and the head 352 00:20:58.839 --> 00:21:02.119 of IPI is Vienna All in August of twenty thirteen. 353 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.960 Within one month of that email, several IPI staffers flew 354 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:09.920 out to Seattle to meet with Gates Foundation, and in 355 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:13.240 October the five million grant was awarded and two and 356 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:16.160 a half million was wired to IPI. And boy, I 357 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:18.480 wonder where it went from there? Do you really think 358 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:21.279 it went to people who needed polio vaccines in Africa 359 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:25.240 or whatever? Highly doubt that at least one employee of 360 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.160 the Gates Foundation was surprised by the speed with which 361 00:21:28.200 --> 00:21:32.240 the Foundation moved forward with the IPI. A former employee 362 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:34.359 at the Foundation at the time who worked on the 363 00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:39.519 organization's polio eradication strategy recalls running into someone from IPI 364 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.720 approximately a month after they first heard about the talks 365 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.079 and was surprised to learn that the person was already 366 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:48.960 laying the groundwork for it. I thought it was rather 367 00:21:49.079 --> 00:21:53.640 quick for a higher level grant. What employees at the 368 00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.319 Foundation did not know is that Epstein had been using 369 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.319 multiple channels and personal connections over several years to try 370 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.720 to influence Bill Gates. As Fortune has detailed in earlier reporting, 371 00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:08.799 Epstein would get involved lining up another donor to IPI 372 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:13.160 two In twenty fourteen, the private equity scion Leon Black 373 00:22:13.680 --> 00:22:17.400 made two personal donations totaling nine hundred and fifty thousand 374 00:22:17.440 --> 00:22:20.880 dollars to the think tank donations. Epstein was corresponding and 375 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.960 asking about email show and the recent things move so 376 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.400 quickly is because it's not on the up and up. 377 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:32.400 Everything's decided and everything that comes after is performative. As 378 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.920 it turns out, there would be some favors Epstein would 379 00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.759 want from IPI in return for his generosity. What if 380 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.240 I told you about Epstein. The guy didn't do things 381 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:43.200 out of the kindness of his heart. He did it 382 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:45.480 because he thought he could benefit. And when it comes 383 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.480 to the IPI, United Nations or anywhere else, that certainly 384 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:54.079 was the case. In August of twenty eighteen, Marna, the 385 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:57.279 foreign assistant in her twenties at the time, texted Epstein 386 00:22:57.559 --> 00:22:59.400 that she had heard back from the Swiss embassy in 387 00:22:59.480 --> 00:23:02.400 Washington as she was trying to secure her student visa, 388 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:07.400 her papers had not been approved. Within fifteen minutes, Epstein 389 00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:10.680 had message Rod Larson, who had previously agreed to help 390 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.599 with the visa. Rod Larson responded to Epstein within five minutes, 391 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.559 saying he would reach out to an ambassador and ask 392 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:21.279 him to speak to the Console General. Soon after Epstein 393 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:23.960 and rod Larson had apparently come up with a solution, 394 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:28.440 Epstein texted Marna. You've been working for International Peace Institute 395 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:32.759 Terry Larson, he wrote. Marna, seemingly confused, asked if the 396 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:35.720 message was meant to her. Yes, if you get a call, 397 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:40.480 that's the story. You need to tell Immigration fraud just 398 00:23:40.519 --> 00:23:42.920 like I told you now there's proof of it and 399 00:23:43.039 --> 00:23:46.079 just another clue that we're on the right track. Once 400 00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:50.200 we sniff something out around these parts, chances are it's true. 401 00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:52.640