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Speaker 1: But we are here to talk about Alien Earth episode six,
which is crazy to think there's only two episodes left
after this and this is the Penultment and then we
have the finale, which I have some questions about that,
but uh yeah, as always, you can go back.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm the affirmative trust.
Speaker 3: Now I'm joined by I'm the back on Earth girkle Batzer.
Speaker 1: Looks like Earth's back on the menu literally in this episode,
but uh uh yeah, no, just two more. It's things
are starting to wind down, but then not at the
same time because we got Dexter that ended last week.
Speaker 2: This has two more weeks.
Speaker 1: But then Peacemakers still like right in the middle, Me
and Taylor got gen B which if people like listen
to those first few episodes, because me and Tayor have
agreed if it doesn't hit like a certain number, we're
gonna do some mini reviews, not because we're not interested
in GENV. He's just looking at that's a.
Speaker 2: Timber October schedule.
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and there's stuff like a big thank you because you
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us to review. So we got two of those coming up.
We're reviewing White Man Can't Jump. We're reviewing Bike Riders.
So we got lots of stuff, and there's like Halloween retros.
So we're just pumping. So that's why for the next
little while, like we're finish off peace Maker, we're definitely
finished off, and honestly so for gen V, I know,
me and Taylor are doing one to three maybe the
second week, but then listen, if you guys, if the
numbers are kind of similar to I'd say like Peacemaker
and Alien, we'll keep going. Dexter was like a ebbs
and flows. There are some highs and lows, but you know,
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Speaker 2: So it's what's Taylor doing. He's he's sitting at home.
Speaker 1: He's playing Hell Divers to get up to level twenty five.
But now Tay will be back next week and yeah,
Penulton's happening. A bet we're gonna talk about this week first,
so creaking pat Well, I guess actually I will go
because I've been first. I've been gone the last few weeks,
so but I did watch the last two episodes today
and then I also listen to your Guys' review because
I heard good things about your Guys's Alien five review.
Speaker 2: I heard people got a lot of good last from that,
which I did as well too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm still really enjoying the show. I think
I have similar cons, especially like you guys. Last week.
I thought I had those cons, but even you more
so we're like really hitting the head on some stuff.
But I agreed with a lot of the takes where
we just didn't have the greatest crew last week. You know,
you know, there was some decisions made, and it's always
tough because like I think you guys made good uh
calls like.
Speaker 2: The ppee and stuff right, because there's.
Speaker 1: Stuff where when the alien attacks and people do dumb things,
you kind of go, well, I could almost get it
right because that's a huge situation. You're not prepared for that.
But even then, it's tough in this world where they're
literally like, oh, this is the first stage of a xenomorph.
It's not like the first move where they're literally unprepared.
They're doing something completely different and have no idea what
this alien is. Right where this they have some idea.
Their mission is to collect these things, so you would
think there'd be some peel bit more trained. So I
agree something that did bring it down. I saw it
was a very mixed episode last week for everybody. People
actually like loving it stay as their favor, saying that
really brought them down. I think I was right there
in the middle. I don't know if I have because
you and Taylor both said last week is your favorite.
I don't know if I have like a standout favorite,
but I've liked a lot of the episodes, so yeah,
it's so far going good. I'm liking all the storylines.
I do this is a Travis you know trope, but
I'm gonna bring it up. I very much would like
to know if these next two episodes are the last,
or if the hope is this show's go to continue,
because I always thought this was going to be a
mini series. But I feel the way the show's going
either we're like an MCU finale where we're gonna rush
and finish a lot of things really quickly, which to
me never pans out, or they're hoping for more so
I I if anyone knows that, or I'm gonna try
and search the interwebs and find it. But uh no,
I've been liking all the storylines for the most part.
I thought last week was a It was a good episode.
I think one thing that continues usually it doesn't bug
me too much, but I think other than like since
episode one, the effects are tough in the show. They're
not all time bad, but I felt like in the
first two episodes, the Xenomorph and some of the things
looked their best, and ever since then, it just there's
an uncanny value like it never looks like the actors
are working with these things, so that's kind of disappointed.
But the stakes of this episode and all the storylines,
because we have all the storylines with the kids and
the bed and sister and Kersh and then Whale and you, Tawny,
it does feel like it's all bubbling up. And this
week it felt like everything got raised big with my
nickname too as I go, man, we're we're we're cooking here.
It's a minor spoiler, but if anything the Alien franchise
has taught you, and which I bang this drum. I
know Taylor doesn't agree. I think Tato Sai. Dylan doesn't agree.
Speaker 2: AI will be the fucking death of us all.
Speaker 1: And if Alien has not taught us anything, there's multiple
like AI. Since in the show where you're like, yep,
this is not going well. Whether it's by choice or
whether it's by malfunction, there's bad things happening with these robots.
These robots always buck us over. Don't trust them. But
for the show, a very interesting kind of see where
all falls. I'm trying to be nonspoor, but yeah, no,
I'm still I enjoyed the last two episodes quite a
bit It's so funny that me and Taylor that one
week year gone, a few weeks ago, we just completely
theory craft about the guy having an alien like zenomorph
and his lungs, and that didn't happen. I just laugh
when I booed up today and they're like, oh, yeah,
it's over there and we got you new lung. Like
I thought for sure it was gonna be in his body.
This would be this whole storyline. No, not at all.
They're just one to see what would happened there. So
it is funny to see. And that's the good thing
about watching shows week to week, right, because you get
to discuss and have those things. But in your opinion,
do you think this could end in two episodes? Do
you feel like it could go on a satisfying conclusion,
or do you think this needs to with what they
have left to do, needs to have another season to
follow up maybe on everything, but some stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think whether we get a season two or not,
it's gonna be set up for something. I think there's
just too much. It's like Pandora's box is open right
now and like we can never like advance with just
being like okay, there's no alien species on Earth or
anymore anymore, you know, like like with how many grimy
little fingers there are in these five companies, we've really
only experienced two. So like just the fact there's five
companies we've only worked with two tells me it's like, Okay,
they've set up the canvas for like five seasons really
like like just with what has been introduced, But I
can't see it being like, Okay, we saved the day,
there's no Xeno Morphs on Earth after this season. And yeah,
I think it's just it's just because of what we've
seen so far, and I don't think that's a spoiler
for this week at all. It's been kind of set
up with that throughout the whole uh, the whole season
for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like these last year are the
tipping point. Is last week was the flashback and then
this is just the stuff that. Don't get me wrong,
I think there's some stuff they rush to. I think
there's one thing with Wendy got really fast. There's one
thing with a certain couple that we moved really fast.
So I'm I am worried that that's gonna happen with
the finale because we've seen that happen with Disney before,
but no. Overall, still enjoying the show, Like, I don't
think it's completely perfect. I don't think it's my show
of the year. It's gonna be a ten out of
ten when we're done here, but it's like a you know,
really good addition to the Alien franchise and some new stuff, right,
Like I love what they're doing with this eye alien thing.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's really good.
Speaker 1: I love We'll get into it. The Xenomorph is clever,
but like I'll say, like the Aliens, like sneakily clever,
like almost acceptively clever, especially in this episode it does
something We're like, oh my god, you it just looks
like it would be someone just scratching their arm, but
this thing is scratching an arm to do something that's
gonna fuck over your entire life. Like it's I want
to know, like what it's because usually, as the Xenomores too,
it's always they just want to reproduce.
Speaker 2: I feel like, take over an area just or breed
and create more.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll get that answer, but I wonder,
like what this thing's end goal is other than obviously
to escape right because it's locked up right now. But
I'm just curious, like overall, what is this thing? Maybe
it's just that maybe wants to breed the same thing
doesn't need a certain thing to breed, because it's.
Speaker 2: Been we've seen it in multiple things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like in the show so far, what do
you think of this episode?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Nice, I thought that what's the best ways say this?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 6: Let me rephrase that for myself, this was.
Speaker 4: A major, major, major step down from from where I
was at from last week. I don't think it's it's
particular like every episode was great until here.
Speaker 3: It's just getting what we.
Speaker 4: Got last week us being like it's a flashback episode
in space and.
Speaker 3: I was just shouted. Like, although I hated a lot
of the decisions.
Speaker 4: That like the crew make, the crew mates we're making
that episode, and various other things, I just love the
setting of just like that claustrophobic environment and of course
it's just being with like a zeno and then like
the the eyeball thing, which I agree, I think that's
been like my favorite new inclusion of this show.
Speaker 3: Has been that little eye alien.
Speaker 4: It's just yeah, very unsettling and just just very like
anytime it goes from its point of view, it's like, oh, man,
bad stuff is gonna be happening here late like and
and I love the way that it just looks at
like just stares at people, and it's just like the
amount of like information that it's processing great addition. But man,
like I still fucking hate boy Caviar or whatever the
hell his name is. So and this episodisode was a
lot of him and a lot of like extended of
him narrating big dirty toes on the table, Like I
I just hate this character so.
Speaker 1: Like, there was one scene, there was one.
Speaker 3: Naraty multiple times.
Speaker 1: Going on, but there's only one scene.
Speaker 3: I I thought I liked the Peter Pan thing. I
don't at all.
Speaker 4: It's too much. They're not even sticking to it. Everyone's
like just just ditching their names, you know, more or less.
Speaker 3: I I just I don't like that at all.
Speaker 4: Just some really like goofy again character decisions. I guess.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say too much because I want
to get spoilers. But just like from where I was
at last week into this, it's just like, man, this
is going to be a show.
Speaker 3: I don't ever rewatch.
Speaker 4: I don't think like oh really yeah, Like that was
the feeling I was going to just watch it. It
was just not very enjoyable, Like I'm really not liking
Wendy's brother, and like that whole situation going on the
doctor lady and her husband, Like I was just like
just shaking my head at so many moments. I feel
like they're very inconsistent on like what their goal is,
and in particular, like the husband character, he's just a
fucking idiot, Like like it just seems like like a
situation happens is if they have like amnesia to like
it's it's not just like oh it's it's a crisis
moment and he's gonna make a mental error. It's like
he's actually an airhead and they like say something to
and I don't know it just for me.
Speaker 3: It feels like bad writing.
Speaker 4: Don't like the two of those characters interacting, even though
it doesn't really happen a lot. I don't know, I'm
kind of just rambling here, but I I I'm not
having a great time watching this show, and I think
it actually doesn't look that bad. Like you're you're mentioning
the CGI I think there is some moments that that's
very like, yeah, no, I'm not gonna say that's that's
that's a spoiler, but uh, there's there's some moments where
it looks really bad, but just for like like the
camera shots and everything like, not including the CGI, Like,
I think it looks good at least.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the show is well acted.
Speaker 1: Also, like it's just the CGI creatures. They all look
very glossy. You know.
Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. I'll give you that.
Speaker 4: It helps that it's in more of a dark setting,
Like I'm always a big critic when it's in just
daylight and it just looks looking at my son, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it beautiful?
Speaker 4: You know, the classic thor uh scene. But yeah, a
little unfortunate. We got two episodes left here, and I
don't think I'm gonna be satisfied really with the ending. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know what it is. I'm
gonna maybe one packet in the spoilers, but uh, I
don't want to just be a Debbie Downer and just
say it's all it's all bad.
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I I don't really care
about the.
Speaker 4: Pretty much just like the earth stuff and like like
we're getting into like the politicking things with like the companies,
and like that scene. Minor spoilers that scene. I just
hated it so much. I was so great be watching
that sequence. I don't know how you feel.
Speaker 3: Feel now, Yeah, I like the scene.
Speaker 1: I know why you don't like the character. I no,
I liked the scene. I liked I was completely fine that.
I don't need too much of that, but I think
it was the right amount. And I liked the maneuvering
the character that annoys you so much.
Speaker 3: Did.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a very smart, slimy in maneuver.
Speaker 1: But it kind of shows like how savvy he is,
right because it just kind of worked out, you know,
very well.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 4: I I I want to see this actor and something
else because like I think he is good, but like
I just don't like him because of his character. It's
probably like a Joffrey thing for me, where you just
you just hate every time I see you know that individual.
So I just think of that character I don't like,
But like, is that because he's written that way and
I'm not supposed to like him or like, I just
I just get irritated by the way. I don't know
his manners, whatever it is. It's probably just the character
that I'm really not vibing with because he's he's just
kind of an arrogant asshole and.
Speaker 1: Mickey seventeen delinquent borer. So you got that mere episode.
The face does look familiar. Now he's in The Sandman,
which I don't remember that, So yeah, he's he's still
a newer. But yeah, he's in two episodes of Peaky
Blinders Adam Parker.
Speaker 3: That's so I've seen him.
Speaker 1: A few things. Yeah, this is the first time he
stands out, you know. So Okay, well let's take our
first ad break and then we'll be right back and
we're back. So yeah, let's just start with that scene.
So they the five companies whatever they have, they talked
about I guess two weeks ago. Yeah, because the brother
was talking to the kids about the five companies that
they voted. They pretty much just said, we used to
have presidents and world leaders that didn't work. Five tech
tech companies rose up and took over everything, which is
a scary thought because I don't think that's like I'm
not saying it's gonna happen, but like the way tech companies, Yes,
the way tech companies are starting to run the world
right now, it's.
Speaker 6: Like cons be so like grain to our society.
Speaker 3: I definitely see that.
Speaker 1: It's not far off so anyway, So they're doing that,
and then they have some sort of like mediator right
before these companies. So when these companies need to figure
out some sort of issue, they.
Speaker 2: Sit down like Kirk with some about the boy Wonder.
Speaker 1: He comes in, he has no shoes on. He puts
his nice, greasy dirty toes all over the table, while
miss miss Utanny is on the other side and they
are debating the kind of trading of said goods because
obviously the ship, the Utonian ship crash, is their ship,
but it crashed in a zone that does not belong
to them, a city doesn't belong to them. And also
they said injured to killed thousands of people, which is
a lot. That's a lot, so you can understand why
there's some controversy with it, right, So they're doing that,
and then what so that's why there's kind of this
push and pull, like we want the ship, but you know,
you kind of did some damages. So Utani is all
like Oh, we'll definitely, we'll pay for and we'll give
you the money, we'll compensate, we'll make an apology to
Da Da. But of course that's what they want, because
you know, boy Wonder has some sort of X, Y
and Z reason.
Speaker 2: So they start to go back and forth of Okay.
Speaker 1: I, you know, will give you the ship back and
I'll give you this stuff back within the ship. Oh
that was his point, right, because he was saying that
they brought something that broke like a bunch of like
fifty different laws. Because he was pretty much saying it
was predatory. She was saying it was for just scientific
needs and it wasn't that, so which I liked the
maneuvering when he says i'll give you, you know, give it.
I'll give it to you for he said for twenty billion,
she said fifteen, and then he said twenty five, and
she's like, okay, well twenty billion is. But then what
I loved is he's like, yeah, after the legal quarantine period,
we'll bring it all over back. And you can just
see the look on her face, like this motherfucker guy
because didn't even think about that. So what they're doing
is he just got all this money and she's like,
oh yeah, for fifty billion to give it to you.
And this is where this is where I think the
actor is doing good job. And he's like that just
wouldn't be good for the Earth, you know, like he
turned the scumball like in front of this council guy
saying like, oh, yeah, I can't do that because you know,
this is really bad for the planet. But he knows
that he just stole twenty billion and he's gonna clone
or keep a bunch of stuff from there and then
give it over. So I liked that power struggle. I
thought that was the most I need from there. But yeah,
he definitely pulled a swift one. But at the same time,
I don't think it's gonna matter because that's the thing
where it's like, I don't know for sure if there's
a season two or at least with these characters, because
I could see the next two episodes Prodigy completely just
faltering because with those with this episode ending with multiple
doors open and now a Xeno Warf will probably gonna
lose soon. We got a face hugger, we got whatever
that nest thing is. The fucking eye goat is like
looking to make it or the ice sheep's looking at
its way out, like like I could see this character
that you hate so much, you could see him dead
and by next week or oh yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, oh yeah, for sure, I wouldn't be surprised
by that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the scene well acted, like for sure, I'll
keep you know, reassuring that, Like I think the performances
are good. But like to me, this guy, boy Wonder
or whatever his name is, Kevar, he keeps saying that
he's like the youngest trillionaire ever, and how much is
a trillion dollars?
Speaker 3: I don't even know if is that a billion? Is
that a billion? Billions?
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like if you get the nine
to nine to nine, you know, all those numbers billions
and the next one up is trillion.
Speaker 4: I know, but so so yeah, so already these numbers
it's hard for my brain process, you know, I can't
see it like on on a sheet of paper. So
if he's like trillionaire, like he has multiple trillions of
dollars and in this debate, they're like twenty billion dollars
and he's already said like a thousand times that it's
not about the money. It's never about the money any
of these things, and like, to me, they're just throwing
out like pennies for this, for this debate, and because
they're already like trillionaires, all these numbers are thrown out
like it doesn't really mean anything to me at all,
Like like, oh my god, he got fifty billion dollars
out of Utaanny, What does that even mean? Like like
is that a major thing economically? Is that gonna shift
the whole outcome of how they're gonna be able to
run their business? It doesn't matter at all. It's like
it's like they're trading in in fantasy dollars.
Speaker 3: So so it just took a lot of.
Speaker 4: Like substance out of that scene for me, And it
was just les there's something.
Speaker 1: We don't know about him, like maybe though he is
a lot, Like maybe there is some money troubles or
I think.
Speaker 3: There's about that I care about Zeno morphs.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's fair, Yeah, but I mean the scene of
his motivation, if he's trying to get money, You're like, oh,
why would it matter to Maybe there's something going on
because obviously they spent a lot on those androids, right,
we don't know how much. And I think they're gonna
lose a bunch of money.
Speaker 4: You're not wrong, because I think they're saying, like Whendy
alone is worth like like a trillion dollars probably, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean, like I think maybe they could
just be a lots tied in.
Speaker 3: Say like five hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it just would have added a little
bit more to it. I don't know if it would
have saved it for me at all, just because I'm
really not too interested in like the economic success of
these companies that I don't really know about. If it's
revealed next episode that it's like these actually money problems
or something like that, I'm gonna be even more checked
out of the show because I just don't care about
that at all. I thought maybe when we got a
little bit deeper into these companies, like I'd be invested,
but and like you know, that being said, we really
haven't dove into them, so like maybe there is a
storyline that I'm a little bit more interested in, But
I think just what's set up with these hybrid cyborg
zeno morphs the eyeball sheep, like, it's just there's so
much going on and then if I have this like
almost suits type scene, you know, I'm not watching like
a lawyer show all of a sudden, Like I just
don't care about that sequence at all. I already don't
care about boy Caviar really unimpressed with the Utanni, this
generation of Utani. She's like the granddaughter of the other Utawni.
So yeah, it just felt like a long sequence for
me personally that I was really just waiting to end,
which is unfortunate. And yeah, maybe I'm completely alone in that,
in that thought process, but uh, I don't know. That's
that's the hell I'm on at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other one I wanted to bring, like, I
think you made some good points and I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna fight too are because the funny thing
is that I'm enjoying the show, but I do when
you said, like you'll never watch this again. For me,
it's gonna be the last two episodes that will dictate that,
because I've enjoyed it, but I don't think it's up
there with like for me, this the original Alien or Ramus, Like,
I think I think there's things in here that are
but I also I've we talked about it before. I
just think I've always thought the concept of Alien as
a TV show is very tough, right because I just
don't think the alien concept that we've seen so far
has been built that way. And I think they're trying
their best and doing some different things. But at the
same time, I think that's one thing that they introduced
so many characters, which I think at times is a
big hindrance on the show, especially with you brought the
husband and wife couple right where okay, so, which I
liked a couple of weeks ago. I think you guys
were a little more male on it, or I think
you were.
Speaker 2: Because I just listened to the recent day.
Speaker 1: I do have das Harris said, look at these boys
with the heart.
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that other emoji?
Speaker 3: That's so soap?
Speaker 1: Him a massin dude, Man, he's so they're in the tub.
He's soap a massing up right now. He's like, oh,
I got someone to put on.
Speaker 2: He just puts on you and me while he's having
a good time.
Speaker 1: But with the couple, I loved the scene about make
sure you finished first. So I went with that girl.
I can't remember who's the ginger girl name, but they
wiped her memory. This episode, I nibs. I really liked
that because it is like, oh, if someone that age
is throwing a tantrum, they might freak out or hit
the couch or something like this. But this is a
not even an adult a full like an adult synth.
That's like they always are a bit more powerful white right,
because there's faster or stronger or whatever. I did agree
with you last week. My biggest con about that I hated,
uh that lady run away from the xenomorph and how
long it went. That buck the shit out of me.
So I was with you one hundred percent there. But
with this I enjoyed that. And this is where this
is why I think Prodigy could just fall at the
end of this episode because or the end of the season,
because they've done so many bad things. When they are like, oh,
our best option is to mine wipe this droid, it's
like no, like this like this all righty, Like it's
not a regular type of synth, Like it's not like
it's not the exact same way they have And that's
why I just thought, like, that's a weird thing of
they've talked about how they've taken their souls and they're
conscious to put them in this droid. It's like, already
you can't backtrack someone like that, right, that'd be like
someone putting someone into a coma. But then even then, well,
actually no, it wouldn't because it'd be the same thing
if even a couple of weeks, if someone were going
to coma and wake up a month later, you'd be
a little fucked up from that, right, But at least
that's like, well, you have MaxEnt this, and now it's
kind of I'm surprised that they didn't prep or even
lie to the other Neverland kids because literally the first
conversation Nips has like, hey, remember that you're going around
like she talks aboundy like, hey remember you were pregnant
what like, not even to like to me, lie to
the droids and say, oh, hey, like she got damage
and we have to wipe her. So it's gonna be
a little odd, but just play along with her because
we're trying to repair, right, Like, because I'm sure they
lie to them all the time, right, so why wouldn't
you bring them in and lie to them there and say, hey,
this is what we're doing, Austin. They don't want them
to know, but it's just like they would find out
like it, just especially when they all went in that
mission stick we all went together, save those people sick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got no idea.
Speaker 1: So that was to me very underwhelming of a very
easy issue of like, Okay, I get what they're trying
to do. I think they're this big company that's making
all these mistakes. It's gonna cost them. But I didn't
I didn't think there was enough discussion of you know,
you just have the bald, you know, classic meaning guy
being like, well, wipe her will make her better. But
just I wish there was some actual conversation.
Speaker 2: House is gonna work.
Speaker 1: And I do appreciate the husband kind of stepping up,
and I do think they actor did a good job
when he talks about how he cares about the kids.
Speaker 2: He's sold that.
Speaker 1: I think my issue is, I agree with you later
he does do some dumb stuff, but I just appreciate
him standing up here. My issue was to two episodes ago,
we just learned that these two were married.
Speaker 6: This episode so fucking redundant with what's shown here.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, well no I agree with you or you
just need more because the thing is Okay, I quit.
I'm not doing this. This goes against my beliefs, not
gonna happen. We said we do X, Y and Z.
We're going against that. Can't do that. And he goes,
you can't do this without me, and then he looks
at his like, well could we do with you? So yeah,
I can do it. And there's no conversation between him
his wife after there's nothing, So it's just like to
me and that especially and then I didn't mention this.
They said, oh, yeah, husband, you're fired. So it's not
even like a disagreement. You're gonna take of a project. No,
your husband's fall like fire. Let go. There's no follow
up conversation. So I agree with you that they should
have never just made the marriage. They should have just
made them partners. And she screws them over cause it's
like I'm complete. That to me is a great storyline
of a husband and wife working on this project. They
both morally disagree on this thing. What happens when it
is the line drawn and when you pick your husband
over your work but never really have and she picks him,
they never have seen again, and he's packing up. So
that's where it's like, oh, there's again juice on the
bone here. And that's why I worry about this being
an only one season show, because I worry that the
other I just saw how that husband and white, because
that's wrapped up right, he's gonna face Hugger. He's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Sat next week out and so sorry, even if that
didn't happen, he was gonna just leave the island and
she was gonna stay there, like yeah, are they just
divorced like cover between the two of them, Like it
just blows my mind.
Speaker 6: And then now he's actually.
Speaker 4: Just dead, So like, what the fuck was the point
of even making that tie like it was introduced last week.
It's like they did a rewrite the script and they
like forgot to completely erase it, like there was a
little bit of a breadcrumb there.
Speaker 3: It's just just.
Speaker 1: Take They should have just tooken that out. They should
have been you easily could you never Like at one
point they look at it, she looked or it's timmy
like look at some sort of photo like it's like
a cube thing or something. But it's like all the men,
all the mentions of them being husband and wife, you
could easily.
Speaker 2: Took out of the show with the editing blade.
Speaker 1: They like, it doesn't have to They didn't have that
many scenes together, so it was super weird that they
did that, and that storyline's just done. So that's why,
to me, that does get me worried about all the
other storylines because I just saw a storyline that was
introduced two weeks ago just killed with them, like I'll
say the next week, right because obviously last week it
was flashback really in chronological order, it's episode you know,
four to six, so it's within two episodes. Oh, here's
this you know, potentially juicy storyline of a husband wife
working on something they might not agree on, and then nah,
just dead. And I don't think she's much longer for
the world either, you know, because I feel like that
therapy session with Nibs, that robot was at her throat.
So now this robot finally, like you like, I could
completely believe next week that she's gonna confront about her
memory being wiped and she might just like accidentally break
her neck or spine or something like that. Right, So,
because she was so violent the first time, so it's
just like now I fel like she'd be even more violent.
So I think there's a good chance that wife is
gone next week too, and then it's kind of like, Okay,
that's where I think that's been. One that's probably the
biggest negative of the show to me is having too
much going on. I think they could have taken some
stuff out and then strengthened other places or people.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I completely agree.
Speaker 4: I think the husband wife storyline is just like it
it upsets me that was even attempted.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it like they didn't have.
Speaker 6: Any like husband wife like scenes or.
Speaker 4: Anything or chemistry at all. They should have been made partners.
Getting back to like the Nibs thing. I thought that
was gonna be like a big moment just in the show,
like they wipe her brain and then she's just kind
of like hidden from the other children for a little while,
you know, and it's like where's Nibs, Like what's going
on with her? And then like they finally see her.
It's almost like a Planet of the Ape situation where
she's been like lobottomized, you know, like like she's just
like a shell of her former self. I thought there's
gonna be something dark like that, but I like, actually
get back out there, I said audio like audibly, what
the fuck are you kidding? Like like when when when
that happens? And she just wakes up and Wendy's right there,
it's like remember this, remember when you had a baby,
Like are you fucking kidding me? They just wipe their
brain and then they just like like open access. All
these other lost children can just go see her and
like maybe you can make the argument, Oh, Wendy, you
know she she can control computers. Maybe she's just snuck
in there, but I don't even care about that. Just
like as a show, like script wise, it's just so
awful to go from like this big mind wipe moment
to just blowing this chick mind of like like you
don't remember anything that happened this last week, and she's
literally hitting every single point that's happened in this season. Yeah,
like like just breaking her brain. And it's like how
does Prodigy not fucking like lock her down or like
you know, she's gonna stay in the lab.
Speaker 3: I just thought that was so ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And then Wendy like immediately goes to just confront whatever
the lady's name is, the wife lady, and like that
scene was good, like like well, actually again, like I
like the back and forth, but just the placement of it,
it just it just was so egregious to me to
use an extreme word.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, it feels very similar. And I thought I
was gonna feel less so as the season went on,
because I was hoping, Okay, there might be some situations
and the husband character did bring this up, but it
was even with episode one or two, No, I think
it was one. Whenever they set. I think it was
a combo of both because obviously they had those episode
one two premiere so that they're kind of melding in
my mind. But when they sent them all into the mission,
and I always was like, I gotta understand setting one
of these very expensive robots, but sending them all you
don't know what's on there. This go bad. But I thought, okay,
we'll see the show goes. But then there's just multiple
situations like that where if these things are so unique
and such a miracle, and like, to me, yeah, that
would be if you're taking someone's conscious and putting into
a synth robot type. It's like that is very impressed,
like way to go proud, you, way to go boy genius, right,
but you're just sending them out there, and then this
one's just like, yeah, you're just gonna mind wipe them
and send them out there and just hope for the best.
Speaker 5: Like it just it's it's it's it's does not And
even then it feel like, couldn't you just out of
they can take these conscious up in their body?
Speaker 1: Is there not a way that they could be Okay,
we're gonna take out this, this, and this, but leave
those memories, like just take okay, they don't think she's
thinking she's pregnant, take out this, like mute her emotions down,
but the fact like to kind of mind wipe her
to like a save point, right like in a video game.
It's just doesn't make it. And again it's fine she's
the only one. But with other people, if it's okay,
we're actually gonna just mind wipe them all, which is
thought all that could be intriguing, right if like someone
would bring them up and be like, okay, actually, if
we're gonna do this, we're gonna have to get them all.
And that's where it could have been dramatic because the brother's
there right, so it's like, okay, how do we wipe
them all? And he's right there right but it's not.
It's awful White Peram will figure it. They don't even
say they'll figure out, just that's the solution. So it
again felt very very rushed, even though the conversation I
agree with this scene is good and I really like
what she's like, Hey, let's sit down, figure out what's wrong,
and whatever's wrong, I can fix it. And then when
when he's like, but what if you're the thing that's wrong,
which was good because one it was I think it's
too late for her because she starts to cry. I
think she's finally starting to realize like, Okay, actually we've
fucked up a bunch and this is kind of inhumane
and stuff we're going but it is like a good
moment of yeah, like they're trying to with many times
blay Run does this alien right as far as like
the AI has been made by the humans for not
so great purposes. Right. They might say it's X, Y
and Z and science, but really the human is at
the cause of They've created this piece of technology to
take advantage or.
Speaker 2: Hurt other people or things.
Speaker 1: Right, So that's where it is shedding a light that
even though this is an AI synth robot with a
little girl inside of his body that is a better,
more more formed, complete human being than this woman that's
you know, been on this, you know, around for forty
fifty years, all this stuff, right.
Speaker 4: So the other part that really bugged me was, although
I am not a fan boy Cavalier, I thought it
was just so shocking that he wasn't involved at all
in the decision to wipe Nibbs's brain. Like it's literally
just the Alfred equivalent, this bald henchman guy who, like
I guess you can make the argument that, like boy
Cavalier just trust him so much and like gave him
the go ahead to make these decisions.
Speaker 3: I guess you could make that.
Speaker 4: But like, man like this is just such a big moment,
and this is boy Cavaliers like like pride and joy,
these are like his property. He made such a big
point of emphasis, Like I think it's already been shown
that he's very uh what's the word I'm looking for,
Just very like I don't know his his he's very
full of himself and like's controlling. He wants, you know,
I'm a genius, this is my property, Like like that
type of mentality to just have fucking this bald henchman
guy should be like, no, I need them shaking hands
at the fucking president's party next week.
Speaker 3: Like it just it just seems so goofy.
Speaker 1: Which again he said that after a couple of weeks
ago of sending them into a near could could be
completely destroyed situation, right, So that.
Speaker 2: Didn't track for me.
Speaker 4: No, No, not at all, And like I don't know
it's that that this whole sequence really bothered me. I
didn't like the back and forth between like acting was good,
but like trying to buy that this is a husband
wife here and they like don't even really look.
Speaker 6: At each other.
Speaker 4: Like I felt so bad for the husband character there,
like he's getting no support from the supposable person that
he's married. He's getting fired, threatened to literally get shot
if he doesn't get off the island fast enough. Yeah,
and then after that, like he's just free to roam
the facility and like send messages to Wendy's brother, just
just has unlimited access to the lab, Like it seems
like such a like a top secret facility. If they're
firing someone, you're like literally walked out the door by
help pubunity, right, Like yeah, like in those big type companies,
not even like what this level of company is, just
like larger companies in our day to day irl, they
won't even let you go back to work, like they'll
literally just escort you away because you could be stealing
company secrets, let alone.
Speaker 3: Prodigy, which is like probably well literally one of five
biggest companies.
Speaker 1: Company.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they have cities under them. So that just
did not compute at all with me. Like the the
scene when he's talking to Wendy's brother and it's supposed
to be like stressful, I don't know, it just was
so goofy to me because it's like there's cameras everywhere,
but like there's such a facility, there's no fucking security
guards anywhere.
Speaker 3: Like, don't even get me started on the lab.
Speaker 4: You know, we'll get the whole lab sequence, but it's
just there's a lot of things that I feel like
I wouldn't normally like just pick away at if if
if I was more interested in the story, But there's
just I'm bothered while watching it, and all these little
things just just pile on.
Speaker 3: So I know he said a lot there.
Speaker 1: I just love when the brothers like, oh, she's safe
in him just being like that like slow look back
at the camera and back to the brother being like, yeah,
she's she's fine, like you like you looked dead eye
into the camera and then you proceed to like tell
them a bunch of stuff, right, And.
Speaker 4: They showed the POV of the camera too. You could
like literally see him like, yeah, so Cecily.
Speaker 3: Turn around and he's like right.
Speaker 4: Blocked the screen from the POV like like they're kind
of blocking it.
Speaker 3: But man, like you're clearly not looking at revitals.
Speaker 1: And again I appreciate that, you know, always good to
have that character in there. He's a human that's trying
to do the right thing. And I thought that this
is how I did not think he was gonna die
right now once he once he left the room and
check lab with that, Okay, it's over for him. But
I thought, what a terrible way to get caught, like
terrible in a good writing sense that Okay, he's gonna
turn off the trackers, but then what's gonna happen is
they're gonna find that android dead and then there's gonna
be trackers turned off the like well you know, only X,
Y and Z people could turn it off. So I thought, oh, man,
what a terrible ironic situation that him doing something good
is gonna get him caught because he's gonna turn off
this tech and what happens to be dead right now.
So when that thing's all discovered, it's like, well we
would have known sooner or X, Y and Z, right,
but it was and it was just okay turned off
and that's how he found out that uh uh it
was toodles that was gone, which well, I guess we
can tie in here with toodles for or what was
he doing in a lab?
Speaker 2: He hit some tray the two right.
Speaker 4: Because because he calls Timothy Olfan and he's like, make
sure to water and feed the specimens.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even his job. It's one of those
two jobs of the deck where they were playing foot
season in the waters. Like, oh, I got it, I
got it. So he goes in there and again this
is where these people can be a bit more believable
because they're children, right, They're still being trained, but still
their children. So I get the tray screws up. He's
gonna try and open up quickly. The door closed behind him. Again.
This is what I loved is the door is like
on its inches it hasn't closed yet, but the fucking
eye she jumps up, hits it, and it moves it
over with.
Speaker 2: The mementum, and you're like, what are you gaming at?
Speaker 1: You know, like to me, that would not be that's
the difference where the xenomorph would do something just to
specifically help itself out, and we even.
Speaker 2: Saw that with the flashback episode.
Speaker 1: Right the eye I think did something where this is
very like you could make the argument of okay, this
all getting screwed up, would eventually get the sheet thing out.
But this feels almost more brittley of just like I'm
gonna I'm gonna mess up this guy and just gonna
see what happens, you know, like if it has a
different kind of deception about it versus a xeno morph.
But that happens. The guy gets messed up, toodles, he
gets melt a big time. They got some weird like
the bug things land on, They shoot acid, They have
their like I don't know, some tails just going through
the eyes and the mouth too. So obviously if this
was a human, they'd probably be doing something else. Not
much to do here because this thing's just melting away
and took him out fastly when he got that first
acid spray it was and he was malfunctioned done. That
was the other thing that I get that he found it.
As far as looking, I would have thought that if
any one of these characters would a pair of sh
it would have been like where we're like, like, not
the whole facility, but a computer would have been popping off.
That That bugged me last week too, that when they
those little spore things got out and went into the
cup win, the whole crew is like walking like, oh,
we're gonna go to lunch. They go back to the
blue screen and they show like the eight canisters and
ones red and it's blinking. You would think they'd be like,
maybe the mute button's not on this situation, Like like
to me, if one these kid robots were to die,
BET's an instant. All these computers are getting notified, but
I guess it's not. He goes to get toodles, and
then we haven't talked about. But of course that guy,
the kid I can't remember his name as well, but
he's been kept being proposive slightly yeah, by a proposition
by morrow of like I'm gonna kill your fucking mom
if you don't do this. So he went to go
get hermit. Hermit, right, he sucks him out, like nah, man,
like I'm not gonna He's like, come on, like I'm
gonna show you something. Num, I'm good, no, please, it's
good for when he's like I'm okay, like I did
like that, he was like waiting on other He's like,
what the fuck's wrong with him? So I like that.
He sucks him out. But he sees that the husband.
Speaker 2: Which I forgot his character, but do I really need
to remember his name?
Speaker 1: Rip, he's gone. He sees that he goes in lab
so light bulb, here's my chance. There's a human in
there he's supposed to be getting. Is the deal that
he's supposed to take? Yeah, he's taking the human out
with the thing on its face? Right?
Speaker 2: Or is he supposed to wait till the.
Speaker 3: Trying to get morph right, that's what they're trying to steal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't really need the hugger. They just need
what's gonna be inside of him, right, just exactly so,
which you never know in the alien movies. You know,
sometimes it takes a few hours. Sometimes, like I just
rewatched Romin this this week. I think we complain about
that movie. It's like twenty minutes, so you never really
know what the alien rules. But we're just gonna say
he's gonna get there, so uh, like you probably meant
you're gonna mention that, Yeah, the husband goes in there,
goes to check on toodles. The door is completely open,
even though Tooles is there. I feel like you could
probably know, as the tech maker, this thing's probably dead
or even close the door, like it's not responding at all,
doesn't close the door.
Speaker 2: The face hugger gets let out everything.
Speaker 1: So granted the face hugger, I won't put that on
him because he probably doesn't think that Slightly's gonna open
the case and that's gonna get after him. Right, But
even the whole weird butterfly acid things that was even
playing very fast and loose with the rules, and even then,
I guess the weird thing is I was gonna make
the case that maybe he didn't call anybody because he
was going back in there after he shared that information.
But he's still there, so he still cares. So you
would think that even you'd see slightly the door open
some mess, he would have hit some emergency thing right,
like it just it in track that they wouldn't have
locked this down at all. So there is a lot
of issues with this scene. But yeah, I repe to him,
I appreciate him trying to help good guy, you know,
nice guys finished left, But yes, very I think even
more egregious to than last week. There was some choices
made just to make sure the plot goes forward and
slightly did get him mad there through the vent and
those butterfly things are out, so I'm not sure what's
gonna happen if they're gonna like they didn't show us
they just should. The last shot of the last shot
of this episode was the sheep just looking into the camera,
so I'm not sure if it is a way out,
if that acid is gonna melt through that. So I'm
not sure we'll get Krooking's thoughts after this last sidebreak
and we're back.
Speaker 2: So what did you think about everything that unfolded here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was uh probably never mind. I was gonna
say my least favorite section, but I think the interview
was my least favorite section because there was a little
bit of spice in here, and I think it is
revolved around the eyeball creature like like you mentioned, and
just the fact that it's like coordinating sorta with the
other Like I don't I don't know if I don't
think it's talking to the other aliens like hey, I'm
gonna fucking lock him in there, make sure to spew
acid on them. But like, yeah, it's just taking like
it's just calculating the whole time, because it.
Speaker 1: Did talk to the Xenomorph last week and a way
right it called the back remember you talk.
Speaker 3: To it or something and they just started scrapping.
Speaker 1: Well no, not that. Remember when Marrow was in there
and the screeched.
Speaker 6: And the Xenomorph comes in and he starts kicking his ass.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's what I mean. So clearly it has
some sort of and even then Wendy does too, So
they're kind of emphasizing there is ways to communicate with
one another, which I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 4: I don't love that decision, but uh yeah, I don't know.
I just was so appalled by the fact that there's
like I don't think there is anyone looking at cameras
other than Olafon in this entire facility, Like they keep saying.
Speaker 1: It's like facility cameras.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like tons of scientists here, and you know, I.
Speaker 4: Will admit like like Olafont says, like we don't want
any humans around this lab, right because it gets attracted
or like the face hugger, it's looking for biological humans.
Boy Cavalier gave the go ahead. It's like, okay, only
robots on this section. I don't think there is a
single fucking ropot in this facility because nobody is in
this area. I'm already still the shadow over my head
of like why is this guy still fucking in this
facility just allowed to do whatever he wants? Like he
could have literally if I was a disgruntled employee here
with Prodigy and I hate I think this is a
terrible idea.
Speaker 3: I want to just open the fucking.
Speaker 4: Gates and let all of these creatures out and just
just go ham on this facility. Nobody's even here to
stop anything, like like you know, like that is the
reality that could have happened. If this is a disgruntled employee,
I'll look past that. He gets in there, opens it up,
does not think for a single second that these aliens
might be dangerous at any point, even though He's already
made points of emphasis in this season that this is
probably a bad idea to be working on these things.
But I'm just gonna open the door. Honestly, I'm at such.
Speaker 3: A low bar right now with the show.
Speaker 4: I was expecting to do fucking mouth to mouth with
this this face melted robot here, like like that's how
little like survival instincts I got from this character here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do agree.
Speaker 4: I thought it was it was clever the way that
the sheep locked the door. But like, man, I was
already just so pulling my hair out when Toodles goes
in the in the fucking pen let alone.
Speaker 3: This guy here, now you made a good point, you know.
Speaker 1: Push back.
Speaker 4: He is a child, so I guess I'll give him that.
But man, this this scientist here, like Jesus Christ man,
like this guy I don't know at least ring the
fucking alarm. If you find Toodles burnt alive, don't open
the door and go in there and get locked. Dies
deserves to die because of his decision there. And like
after he gets out or sorry, when the face hugger
is out of the cage, he's knocking on the door
for slightly, like there's not a single emergency alert button
anywhere in this room, like you've already stated that, Like
maybe if, maybe, if one of the trillion dollar robots dies,
maybe since we're tracking them, maybe if their vitals just
cease to exist, maybe let's raise a.
Speaker 3: Fucking red flag.
Speaker 4: I imagine boy Cavalier might want to have that on his
little iPod or whatever the hell they have in this
day and age, but whatever, he just doesn't. He doesn't
really care about that. I guess he wants his fifty
billion dollars that he just got from Utahani. I'm ranting now,
but this is this is my my emotions coming into play.
At one point, it looks like he's trying to make
a call, which is just so goodoy to me because
it seems like they have like nineteen sixty two tech
on their telephones here of like this is.
Speaker 3: A top secret lab.
Speaker 4: If something goes wrong, it's pick up the phone and
like security, we need you right now, or like lock down, facillity, lockdown,
aliens out of the pen, anything like that. No, it
basically goes to voicemail and he's trying to get ahold
of his fucking ex wife it's like, what's.
Speaker 3: What he said? I can't remember. This scene was so goofy.
Speaker 4: I'm like okay with it just pushing like the plot along.
Speaker 3: It's like okay, it says.
Speaker 4: If I'm playing a video game, it's like, man, that
that level fucking sucked. But at least I'm onto the
next level now. Like like that's how I felt about
this episode in particular, and it just kind of sucks
me feeling this way with like how positive I was
last week, even though there was a lot of well,
I was more positive because I had a fun time
of just being in that setting. But yeah, I don't know,
I just really really really don't like the slightly character
either with Moro in his ear, and it just seems
so lazy that like, oh, of course Morou just found
his family in India and he has them hostage, like
like yeah, okay, that's just an easy way to get
this slightly working for him. I know, like I'm probably
like really stretching on some of my complaints here, but like,
I don't know, it's just it's one thing after the other,
and I feel like it's just it's really, uh, it's
like a hangnail. I just keep getting caught on It
just bugs me so much.
Speaker 1: That's fair, I think the only yeah, the more slyly thing,
that's the most I'm on a complete wait and see
because at the same time, when when you say, like, oh,
of course he found his fan, but like he has
a cyborg, and I feel like, all you gotta do
is get into prodigyce files. You just find his file,
like oh he belongs to this kid and they all
the information right, like, because I feel like, right now
we could do that, right like someone like I just
watch a Catfish documentary where they were just fuck, man,
did you.
Speaker 3: Watch It's got the gist?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all well another time on what we've been watching.
But like just that there's like two apps they use
this guy's then they get the FBI and he gets
it right. So I can't believe a guy that's a
cyborg that probably has more tech than we do advance
could find this. I think I'm just I need to
see what happens with the story because it makes sense
too of the same thing. This is a child, so
you're taking advantage to them, right, You're scaring them. It
makes sense that they wouldn't go because people in real
life do this where they threaten people's family, like children's family,
and they'll do things or not called the police because
they're worried about their family. Right, And that he's using
that textbook of hey, I got your mom gonna killer
if you don't do this, So I can believe that
he's not gonna say that. And I also think what
is good for this. I don't know the future the
alien franchise, but clearly we don't see these type of
you know, since again I think between Wendy and her
brother and this, this shows the big disadvantage of using
someone that has a previous life, right, because there is
these all these ties hybrids too.
Speaker 4: Just to clarify their hybrids, Moreau's a cyborg, and then
old is the synth.
Speaker 3: He's like the og synth that we are.
Speaker 1: They not technically a synth though they're a synth hybrid synthetic.
Speaker 4: Well, the hybrid would have the human soul involved, and
then the cyborg is like a human.
Speaker 1: Well no, but I mean like the hybrids, those are
still sin their synth bodies or well what they're just
android bodies technically what is the body technically?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a completely manufactured body. I don't really know
how to get the likeness, like how they choose one
to be redhead or you know, like ethnicity wise, Like
it's kind of curious when I think, well, I think they.
Speaker 1: Made them almost somewhat similar, right, because they still made
uh slightly it looks like the same race, right, because
his mother was that race as well a couple of
weeks ago. Yeah, so I think that's probably why they
try to make like a It's probably easier for their
their mind if you make something up almost like, oh,
this is what you'd look like when you were older, right,
opposed to looking like something completely different because you're already
in adult body. So no, I've liked some of that
stuff as far as Okay, this would show why this
is a terrible idea, because I think the first episode
we're like, oh, this is great, like if you could
make this tech, but these are the disadvantage of it, right,
So I want to see how that storyline plays out
before I'm like completely four or against it because it
makes sense. I think I'm still more just like I
guess last week, Help was showing why Moro is obsessed
because he lost his daughter, so he's nothing else but
just that he's just so like like Whalen even said like, hey,
like go home, we'll get you another message. Like now
I'm fucking doing this. It's like that's still my hang
up to this, right, But I like the actor in
the role, so you know, we'll see what happens. I
need to see. But I guess it makes sense to
me as far as he's threatening a child. Right to me,
what I the most intrigued I am in the show,
just exactly like Promethee's and Covenant is with Kersh because Okay,
to me, I really felt like the first half the
season was you haven'tn android or a synth that's just
very loyal to the you know, the boy wonder and
we're gonna get a great actor like tithy Oldfont to
add some spice on there, right, But now he there's
definitely lots of them to do this. But there's some
david ISM's going on because at first when he knew
about uh slightly because I found it was that revelation
a couple weeks ago, surprising that he could hear.
Speaker 2: That whole conversation going on right between him Marrow.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, wow, he knows, But I just
thought oh, he's gonna use that to fuck over. More
like he Marl's gonna have a plan like meet me
here and then he's gonna be there, and that cyborg screwed.
But now it's gone to the point where that lab's
getting so messed up you'd go, well, this feels like
it's really past the point.
Speaker 2: And then in this episode when.
Speaker 1: The lab's destroyed, slightly's gone with the husband and then
the Boy Wonder says everything all good, and he says
affirmed of now, within the time, I could have seen
something where okay, he had this game plan, and that's
where the Boy Wonder could be mad of the synth
going you know, old Funk being like, hey, I was
gonna use whatever this chat going on was to box
him in and we'd get an upper on Wayland New Tawny,
and I screwed up here. But the you know, obviously
look what happened. But him just saying, oh, yeah, we're
all good. I really don't know. And he already saved
him once before, right, so it's not like he has
the Boy Wondered dead. He could have easily let the
Boy Wonder die right there and be like, oh he's
screwed up. That's an accident, right because he was looking
over the egg and he pulled them aside and that
you don't go in there. So I don't know what
it is. I don't think it's gonna be like a
David Coffy where David was just lots of times about
the chaos, right, David just wanted to create and see
what would happen. I don't think that's kurshed. But I
also don't know because your traits, Yeah, and that's why
it's just like these rope like all these robots thing
eventually take those traits because they just there's I think
it's just that master servant thing where eventually they override themselves,
like wouldn't it. But I don't get that sense of
curse right now. Like David from even seeing two of
me this, You're like, he doesn't like being underneath all
these people, right, but curse. It's never felt like that.
He's always felt like he's by the book doing his job.
So I'm very convinced like he's setting boy wanted all
those people to go back to a death zone right
now by saying affirmative So for kersh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have to help me, remember because me
and Taylor discussed this. I can't remember if it was
a theory Taylor pitch or if you heard about or
if it was actually discussed it.
Speaker 6: His theory is he a Wailin Utani robot.
Speaker 1: That was his his theory because yeah, because he got
all those acts right and they didn't answer here because
I thought that Met had one more on him at
that elevator scene and he said, oh, you're just an
old toy. But he still was referring to Prodigy being
an old toy, right, So that would be a huge
twist if he was actually like.
Speaker 4: With what we kind of line up honestly, Like he's
making moves that kind of benefit Wailing Utah like like
that company. He's not like straight up like just stealing
eggs for whaling new Towny like being the like a
Moreau in about it. But like I was right with,
I thought he was going to be baiting them in
and like okay, like basically meet him at the meet
up when he meets Moreau with like just his his
his whatever security officers like ready to take him out,
but in this sequence, it's like, man, this is probably
the time if it wasn't already, it's probably the.
Speaker 3: Time to tell your boss what's going on.
Speaker 4: Is like when he's just looking at the poor husband
with the fucking face hugger just on his like whoa.
Speaker 1: He's like And that's where it's curious with he said
it was his name Moreau. Did you say Moreau?
Speaker 2: Okay, I've been called Murrow or something this whole episode.
Speaker 3: Like the cyborg guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What's curious then is they had that little face
off and then if he is like secretly workable wail on.
Speaker 3: I did like that scene a lot.
Speaker 1: I liked it too, But then I'm just curious what
is the result of those two Like they seem kind
of a pose, right, so if he's with them in
a sense, what happens you know what happens there?
Speaker 4: And that's that scene I took more of, like I'm
the new product. I'm I'm the next evolution of robot,
and you're just like a shitty synth essentially, Like I
like just that type of shit talking less so of
being like I'm gonna bring your company down, which is
another thing that I found each like Kersh is very
He's like, my my most intriguing thing about the show.
I think, like I I think the new edition of
the Eyeball Alien, but like kersh, that's not really a
new addition. It's it's it's the David Iss like it's
a similar type of synth, even new character, but still
it's right.
Speaker 1: I think the original Alien was the same thing, like
had you know, you know, back to Roma's had different
motivations for what's going on you guys have last week,
really we've only gone Bishop was the only one that's
ever really been on the good side. I guess we
had Winona right in four, but I always kind of
forget about four work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna say this isn't canon if
it keeps going this way, which I didn't really meant
to talk about this week. I didn't think it was.
It was necessary, but like I, I just also don't
like the prequel aspect of this and just just the
idea of like we are this involved with Zeno morphs
on Earth, like before Ripley even interacts with it. Again,
doesn't really matter, I guess because they're completely outside of
like the sphere of Earth.
Speaker 1: We never go to Earth, right, Like that's the only
because I would imagine I imagine what happens is they
want this tech and I imagine Progy falls, but like you,
Tawny does not.
Speaker 2: Get everything a proudy right, like the eggs, you and
Warf all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Right, and maybe they die. I made the islands by
itself whatever, So I guess that would make sense that
in the Alien movie when they come across that again,
because remember in Aliens too, they're like or just aliens
not aliens too. In Aliens they're like, oh, what happened?
Like they really a lot of what happened. So it
I'm I'm it's not like a make or break point.
I'm with you that I think it's it's a difficult situation.
Like I wonder if there is I wonder if there
was a way that they could have made this a
sequel to like happen after the fact, like the way
Romless was.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like I said, if.
Speaker 1: You're kind of you know, what is the expression like
uh grasping a straws? They they never say anything I
think in those movies to go against this, right, Like
that's what I was saying. Like even I was talking
about the discord with Tailor, He's always say X y
Z about how Promethius breaks cannon blah blah blah. But
it's like yeah, but technically they don't give you the
full answer, so it's like that could say like it
breaks can for what we thought is the tough thing
is we've seen alien and for our entire life we
thought it was this way right, But it's like, oh,
well now it's just you know, like that. But I
get that because I'm somebody that fucking hates that. In
obi Wan dar Fader and Anakin fought again. For me,
that's like a big like I can't handle. This doesn't
work for me no matter what.
Speaker 3: Oba, it's not a thing. Don't need to know that answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at least that's like okay, he's just like
that was bad writing. It bugs me more when it
was like, oh this is so I this this one
doesn't affect me as bad. But I will not fight
you on the point because I have those same points
in prequels.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just doesn't just doesn't work.
Speaker 3: I don't even have to bring it up anymore.
Speaker 4: Like in the early episodes, it's like this is like
a shadow over me, you know, thinking about like where,
like what's going on with Ripley and just that you more,
I'm so far away from that of like even need
to mention those complaints because I'm like, now I'm just
judging the product, and I'm really not liking the product.
Speaker 1: I also agree to you. Last week and they had
the I think I get it, that's alone hands, but
I I than like the human kind of fucking up
the alien there for a little bit, you know, just
that didn't work.
Speaker 3: For them, And I mean that should have been.
Speaker 1: A jump in the alien slicely and moves for.
Speaker 4: Like literally just cuts them in half and like one go,
but just built different the eyeball, it just buffs human body.
Speaker 1: And maybe I would have And that's how again I
try to head canon that maybe just is like a
steroid right gets in you and all of sudden reflexes strength,
all that's big. So that's why I can try to
head canon that even though it feels.
Speaker 3: Odd, but it does happen in day.
Speaker 4: You know, you hear your stories people all fucked up
on angel dust and they get like six shots and
they just keep running.
Speaker 3: It's just yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 1: Really stuff like adrenaline, right, like all those stories about
like a mom lifting a car to get their kids
because you know and stuff, So is there anything they
let's see? Yeah, so I like the husband gave, which
that was my other point toe with dumb characters. For me,
it's the brother of two weeks ago has this full
thing of you know, she could have our life, and
the the Alfred just lays down like, hey and this
is true, Like whatever you feel about she's a piece
of property. It's great that she's back. She's your sister,
but that's not your sister. She'll never go anywhere. So
again in this episode, when he's not an alphone like
oh you know, like how long does it take.
Speaker 2: For to charge?
Speaker 1: He's like why do you want to know that wall?
When she's gonna graduate and done here? And he's just
like what do you think's happened? Like I don't get
like does he think that he's gonna ask someone from
this company and they'll be.
Speaker 4: Like an escape diagram showing like when when slightly comes in,
you like see him sketching like, ok, nine ninety paces
to this door, Like what the fuck does he think
is gonna happen here?
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, and but I just don't care. Why does
he keep going around and being like oh, she's she's
gonna be done right, Like I would think that already.
Speaker 2: We look at the situation be like, oh, my sister's
never leaving here.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't get that, you would think at
least when the the boy wonders assistant told him like no,
that it's not happening, that would be your clue. And
the fact that again he went to all Phon'm like, yeah,
she's gonna be all leave here right, It's like, what
are you talking about? Man? Like they just make him
seem so dumb, because to me, it's like either he's
dumb or you know the joke, he's stupid because he's
just revealing his plan because like a bunch of characters
be like, oh yeah, her brother keeps asking about when
she done. So he's probably gonna try and get these
to keep out of here now. Luckily, I think for
him next week is I think it's gonna go buckwah
the facility and that's how they could escape, right because
I think he's making a plan. Clearly, Wendy ak Marcy
has already seen the light of like, you know, this
place is fucked up. This is actually really bad. So
I think they're gonna use that take the advantage of that.
But I did like the soldiers this time too, same thing.
He's asking all of them, oh, so many boats go by,
and how many people do this? And I love that
one lady's say, hey, just shut the fuck up, like
I don't want to be part of any of this.
So again he's telling everybody under the moon like I'm
gonna escape and get out of here. But so yeah,
that's one that was a stickler for me that I
just thought they've made that very that characters seem very
dumb because anybody would understand like, oh, yeah, he's trying
to escape, like we should probably just get rid of him,
killm whatever, you know. But no, this is the worst
security in the world here, So.
Speaker 3: It really is. It really is.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you mentioned that because, like I think.
Speaker 4: It was last week, maybe the week prior, whenever he's
like first here and he gets the surgery and everything,
like I'm kind of okay with him asking those questions
like can we can we you know, like, yeah, take
my sister and get out of here. But like this
week because because like you said, like he's already had
that conversation. It's like you can leave, you know, like
she's not going anywhere. She's property, but like we're gonna
bill you for that lung, and like if he escapes,
I imagine in this world it's pretty fucking easy to find people,
Like it's already easy to find people like you already
mentioned in our day to day of just just just
how we are so easily tracked. And I imagine Prodigy,
like supposedly they just own like portions of the world,
like they're probably living in Prodigy territory. I would imagine
this are really going just just incognitio. But yeah, I
did like that the chicks just call him out. Yeah, no,
it's a goofball character.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else to start by him? All on
the boardroom? Bro?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What do you think is gonna happen with nibs? Do
you think she's like next week is just gonna be
a therapy between her and I think she could.
Speaker 2: Kill that lady.
Speaker 1: I think there's a good chance that that she freaks
out and kills her and that's the end of that.
Speaker 4: White Like what's gonna happen with the sheep area and whatever?
And like is she gonna even ask where this guy
is honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't even
I think that's.
Speaker 1: Why they'll kill her quickly, so then they don't even
yield that they don't have to worry about that. Maybe
she'll call him back and I'll go to voicemail and
Nibs will knock him the door, being like I'm pregnant,
right and then right away from one to ten. But
I think she'll die very quickly. I think obviously there's
gonna be another xenomorph out there, and there's still like
the baby's zeno morph too, that's growing and growing, right,
So it's like.
Speaker 3: When you're gonna ride that thing off the island with her?
Speaker 1: I really not if there's teamwork. I'm I don't even
I'm I don't love the idea for talking to X anymore.
But I can kind of get a little bit on board,
like secuency. God, I'm but butchering the word, Like what
is it if some were to talk and there's.
Speaker 4: Like tell you no secrecies or sequences?
Speaker 2: Maybe something like if you're on a radio or whatnot.
But anyways, I.
Speaker 3: Can buy I'm that's okay.
Speaker 1: Sequentially, Subsequentially, I can buy that I don't like that
they can start talking to them about maybe this thing's
so advanced it is like just another language, right, So
that's fine. If there is the controlling, the working together,
yeah I'm not on board for that, but yeah, there
could be two zenos running around, the one and uh,
the husband, and then the one that breaks out. And
I think I think next week is gonna be big pandemonian.
I don't think it's gonna be a slow build, like
I think this series had a lossow build, and even then,
I guess the last week wasn't. But I think that
next week is gonna be I could be wrong, and
maybe that's finale, but it's out of this episode of
the next episode where this whole facility is going hell
and it's gonna be gonna be a lot of bloodshed,
and so that in my opinion, I just think it
would be the penultimate and then the finale kind of
deals with a lot of the fallout of these characters
of who's left and you know, kind of tailing off
some storylines. But I could be wrong. Maybe they do
a bit of both.
Speaker 3: So no, I could definitely see it.
Speaker 4: It's been a little bit of a I guess last
week we had some action, so yeah, I was gonna
say it a little in the act, at least on
Earth in this area.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think.
Speaker 4: So they got all my my grievances off my chest.
We'll see what happens next week. You know, I'll still
be here.
Speaker 1: Hey, who knows. Last week obviously had some of the
throwback to like the original aim. But last week you
said was your fair episode and then big decline here,
So maybe next week's is just another killer one. Maybe
that's just the show where it's kind of lots of
ebbs and flows that maybe the storytelling isn't the best.
But and I still I guess the reason why I
always i'm waiting for the end is because, like I've
said before, I'm big no Holly fan. Legion was a
big payoff as far as that, I think there's some
things you can't recover. That husband's storyline that's nonsayable, that's done, Like,
there's nothing that can fix that for me.
Speaker 4: But next week it's just a full flashback and it's
only those two characters.
Speaker 3: It's just like it's like a marriage story they start
from then when.
Speaker 2: They're like teenagers, they need and everything.
Speaker 4: It's like an up type type of relationship.
Speaker 1: Or just for an hour. Yeah, yeah, well we will
be back next week to discuss The penultimate episode should
be a good one. Taylor should be back for that,
and then well the finale and yeah, let us know Discord, Patreon, YouTube,
wherever your theories, anything we're missing, anything we get wrong,
we're always down to. As long as you pitch in
like a hey you know you didn't think about them saying,
or hey you missed this, or hey, if you're wanting
to be able to answer that way, we're always down for discussion.
We love conversating with people, love being wrong because that
means we can open our eyes to new perspectives and stuff.
Speaker 2: But uh, yeah, let us know. We'll be back next
week more
Speaker 1: Or with more alien and I promise you it'll not
be boring.