WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.359 --> 00:00:11.240 Mysteries are fuel for our mind. They give it the 2 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:15.560 opportunity to open the strange doors of possibility in search 3 00:00:15.759 --> 00:00:19.359 of an answer. Some might be solved in a few years, 4 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.960 while others may lay unsolved for as long as our 5 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:27.600 universe continues to exist. There are individuals out there who 6 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:30.640 claim to have solved many of the world's mysteries, whether 7 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:34.119 it's how the pyramids were constructed or the original herbs 8 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:37.359 and spices contained within the Kernel's finger lick and chicken. 9 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.119 But there are some people out there who do know 10 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:45.000 the answer to many mysteries, and they choose not to 11 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:49.000 come forward with those answers. They instead decide to fade 12 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:53.880 into the shadows and not reveal the truth that they hold. Today, 13 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:57.920 the mystery of what happened in Room ten forty six 14 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:01.240 remains a mystery, but we will leave it to you 15 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:04.799 to decide if the information that we have is actually 16 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.280 enough to say that it has been solved. 17 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.959 My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to 18 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:14.959 Wicked and. 19 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:17.959 Grim, a true crime podcast. 20 00:01:19.719 --> 00:01:20.079 Warning. 21 00:01:20.680 --> 00:01:29.439 The following podcast material intend more mature audience listener discretion. 22 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:50.200 Prodcasting. Thing that's going good. 23 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:53.719 I think it's going good. 24 00:01:55.040 --> 00:01:59.680 We're on vacation, I'm doing this podcast, so we're a 25 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:01.879 little bit out of our element. 26 00:02:02.280 --> 00:02:04.200 Ish you could say, we're not in our tiny home. 27 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:06.760 We're in a cabin in Ucluelet, BC, which is just 28 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.639 south of Tafino. So things are probably gonna sound weird 29 00:02:09.680 --> 00:02:12.479 because we're not using our regular microphones. We're in this 30 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.000 cabin with this like tile floor, and dogs are walking 31 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:17.479 around and people are walking around outside the cabin to 32 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:22.240 throw down the driveway area, so it probably sounds strange. 33 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:24.599 Yeah, and I feel like we're maybe a little bit 34 00:02:24.599 --> 00:02:28.039 more relaxed than normal, you know. Yeah, it's it's a 35 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:28.680 good day. 36 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.240 And I'm looking outside at a and a nice doggo 37 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:32.639 cool for a nice walk. 38 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:33.280 Amazing. 39 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:35.680 All hours are probably bitter at us that we're recording 40 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:36.159 our podcast. 41 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:37.719 Why are we not all going for a walk? 42 00:02:38.280 --> 00:02:40.360 Well, we got to get this done. It was supposed 43 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:43.800 to come out today, but due to getting ready for 44 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:45.080 the trip and everything, we had a little bit of 45 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.319 struggle getting this episode recorded. 46 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:51.000 Yeah, so it's about twelve hours behind, which isn't bad. 47 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:53.240 No, we're doing our best. We made the dedication to 48 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.759 still have this out even though we're on vacation. So 49 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:59.240 hopefully you guys appreciate that. Yeah, after this, so we 50 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.240 are definitely gonna go in appreciate the beautiful scenery around 51 00:03:02.240 --> 00:03:03.680 here that is taffino and you clue it. 52 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:07.120 Well, yeah, Honey actually has not tried to drink from 53 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:09.039 the ocean yet, so I'm looking forward to that. 54 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:11.599 It's always fun her first ocean experience. 55 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:12.120 Yeah. 56 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.159 Yeah, and you have a secret beach you're gonna take 57 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.599 us too, I do, I do. I'm pumped to see 58 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:19.719 your secret I'm so excited. 59 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:22.039 It's just like Heaven on Earth, so Heaven on. 60 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:24.319 Earth, and it's not actually a secret beach. It's just 61 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:27.800 like a public like a local known beach. But the 62 00:03:27.919 --> 00:03:30.280 tourism place doesn't really go there. 63 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.199 I guess, well, yeah, they go to the one part 64 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:33.759 of it, but then if you walk in quite a 65 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.599 bit further then, like last year when Ripley and I 66 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.439 were here, we had the one part of the beach 67 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.280 where I'm going to take you all to ourselves for 68 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:45.120 probably over an hour, sweet, which was awesome. 69 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.639 That's awesome. Well, it's gonna be a good. 70 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.080 Time, I know. I'm looking forward to it. 71 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:50.319 And if you guys want to check out, we are 72 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:52.520 going to put up a log on YouTube, and we 73 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:55.719 are also putting up another vlog a little bit more oriented, 74 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:58.360 like on our travels to get here, behind the scenes 75 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:01.560 stuff for a patriot. So there's gonna be two blogs 76 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:02.000 coming up. 77 00:04:02.400 --> 00:04:05.479 And the YouTube is it's called The Wicked Life just 78 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.159 Wicked Life. Oh, Wicked Life. I thought it was the 79 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:08.759 Wicked Life. 80 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:10.000 I'm pretty sure it's Wicked Life. 81 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:10.680 Now we don't know. 82 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.120 Yeah, it's just Wicked Life. Okay, looking at it right now. 83 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:16.040 So just like, look in the search on YouTube Wicked Life. 84 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.959 Yeah, or it's in the description of this podcast too, 85 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:22.160 and you don't even know the name of own YouTube channel. Congratulations, 86 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:22.560 you fail. 87 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:24.319 I put a the in front of it. Remember when 88 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:26.560 we did that, we were on our local news. 89 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:27.240 Yeah. 90 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:29.000 And at the end, didn't she ask us what our 91 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.519 website was or how people can find us, And we're 92 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.319 literally like, I don't know. 93 00:04:33.560 --> 00:04:35.480 We couldn't remember if there was podcasts in our website. 94 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:37.879 Yeah, we had no idea. 95 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:39.639 Well, we always say it's all linked down below. We 96 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.600 deal with it all the time. We never spell it out. 97 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:44.040 That's just us though, that's true. 98 00:04:44.199 --> 00:04:47.279 Yeah, but we got patrons to thank. Speaking of those 99 00:04:47.319 --> 00:04:50.920 patrons over on YouTube or over and patron and YouTube 100 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.480 speaking of them, we have patriots to think that was 101 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:54.399 my thought process. 102 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:56.279 We do. I was like, I was thinking we only 103 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:59.120 had a couple this week, but there's quite a few, 104 00:04:59.199 --> 00:04:59.959 so this is great. 105 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:05.839 Yeah, we have Maeln, Jen Woods, McKenna, Marek, Marie Jackie, 106 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:09.279 and Felicia Godbold who all is on Patreon. 107 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:10.360 That's awesome. 108 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:12.879 So they're definitely going to be getting that that vlog 109 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:15.480 over there. They're gonna be checking it out. So thank 110 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:17.279 you guys for signing up. You mean the world to us, 111 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:19.319 And even if you're just listening, you mean the world too, 112 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.279 because this wouldn't be happening without you. 113 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.079 So thank exactly. 114 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:25.120 You're ready to get into this, I'm ready. I think 115 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.879 we've already told everyone a little too much about our vacation. 116 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:29.240 I think they want to hear the episode. 117 00:05:29.319 --> 00:05:30.399 Yeah, let's move on. 118 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:35.319 Okay, Well, this is the story of Room ten forty six. 119 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:41.360 Okay, okay, sounds already a little bit scary. 120 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:43.560 It kind of sounds like Stephen King because. 121 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:46.079 Something like a novel of sorts that's like suspenseful. 122 00:05:46.199 --> 00:05:48.759 Yeah exactly, because like Stephen King had a room, like 123 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:51.879 a hotel room sort of. I can't remember what his 124 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.839 story was, but anyways, Yeah, there's a few things that 125 00:05:54.879 --> 00:05:57.079 revolve around it. There's this shining bare room and then 126 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.360 the room at the Old Ladies in the China. Yeah, 127 00:05:59.480 --> 00:06:02.759 lots of places occur in horror movies like this where 128 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:03.720 it's a specific room. 129 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:04.160 Yeah. 130 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.399 So I think that's kind of what strikes people, the 131 00:06:07.480 --> 00:06:11.439 fact that this kind of went along with a specific room. 132 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:13.240 So the room doesn't really have anything to do with it. 133 00:06:13.439 --> 00:06:14.720 Oh okay, Yeah, it. 134 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.160 Just occurred in this room and that's about it. Okay, 135 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.160 So starting off, we have a man by the name 136 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:22.920 of Roland. Now, Roland was a man who checked into 137 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:26.399 the Hotel President in Kansas City, Missouri, which is now 138 00:06:26.480 --> 00:06:29.279 the Power and Lights District. He checked in in the 139 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:33.959 early afternoon on January TEWOD, nineteen thirty five. He registered 140 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:37.319 under the name Roland t Owen, but gave no home 141 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.240 address or any other personal information, and paid for one 142 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.279 night stay at the hotel. Now, spoiler alert, he did 143 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.639 stay longer, so I'm assuming he paid for more nights, 144 00:06:45.639 --> 00:06:47.680 but initially he paid for just the one night's day. 145 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:50.600 Okay, this is a long ways back, eh. It is 146 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:51.920 nineteen thirty five. 147 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:53.160 You said, yeah, back into the thirties. 148 00:06:53.199 --> 00:06:53.439 Wow. 149 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.199 Now, this man was dressed rather nice in a black 150 00:06:57.240 --> 00:07:00.000 overcoat and was around twenty years old, maybe a little. 151 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.079 I did find accounts that said he was up to 152 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:05.160 potentially thirty five years old as the way he looked, 153 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:09.120 but I'm pretty sure he was around early twenties by most. 154 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.160 Accounts, still fairly young exactly. 155 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:15.000 So. He had brown hair and a very distinct visible 156 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:19.000 scar below the hairline on right above his left ear. Now, 157 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.839 it was also reported that he had cauliflower ears. 158 00:07:22.759 --> 00:07:23.879 I know what that means. 159 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:24.959 What does that mean? 160 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.319 I had no idea at first because we used to 161 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.120 watch a little bit of USC and a lot of 162 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:33.279 the fighters on there. It's from boxing and like being 163 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:37.120 kind of a fighter, right, yes, yeah, well they're not boxing. 164 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:39.639 It's common. It's common. Here, I'll read you the right 165 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:43.000 up that I put for this. So. Cauliflower ear, also 166 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:46.279 known as hematoma orus, is a condition that occurs in 167 00:07:46.360 --> 00:07:48.680 one's ear when blood builds up between the cartilage of 168 00:07:48.680 --> 00:07:51.199 the ear and the skin from the ear being repeatedly 169 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:55.519 struck or bent, causing trauma on the underlining cartilage, kind 170 00:07:55.519 --> 00:07:57.800 of like a fingernail going blue after you smack it 171 00:07:57.800 --> 00:07:59.800 with a hammer or something like that. It's that blood 172 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.079 up under his nail. Same thing in the ear between 173 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:02.959 the cartilage and the skin. 174 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.560 But it actually never really heals, does it, Unlike our 175 00:08:06.639 --> 00:08:10.199 nails that do well. It can, okay, So. 176 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:12.600 The ear actually begins to swell and like forms those 177 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:16.079 lumps of this like fluid which makes it ear resemble 178 00:08:16.160 --> 00:08:19.399 cauliflower from these like bulges, and if treated immediately, the 179 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:23.040 lump can actually go away. Oh okay, not treated immediately, 180 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.279 then it remains permanently. So what they actually do to 181 00:08:26.319 --> 00:08:28.360 treat it is they'll take a syringe and they'll suck 182 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:31.879 out all that fluid. Oh my god, before it like yeah, pardons. 183 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:35.720 So regardless, lovely. 184 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.559 Hopefully no one's eating at this moment, because that's. 185 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.120 Just a medical gross I mean it is, but I mean, 186 00:08:43.320 --> 00:08:45.000 because of this though, it was assumed that he must 187 00:08:45.000 --> 00:08:47.399 have been like a boxer or wrestler. That's kind of 188 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.919 what the hotel staff was assuming at the time because 189 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:51.679 it is kind of like a common thing scene like 190 00:08:51.679 --> 00:08:53.120 we see if you watch the UFC ear and he 191 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:54.960 mixed Martial Arts, it's common for those guys to have 192 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.440 cauliflower ears. So they kind of assumed that was his 193 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:00.600 occupation or at least pastime. 194 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:01.080 Okay. 195 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.039 Now, Randolph Props was working as a bell hop service 196 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:06.919 and he helped Roll into his room that night. When 197 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:09.960 he checked in, he carried no baggage with him, so 198 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.360 Randolph was empty handed and escorted him up to the 199 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.399 tenth floor where the room was. Randolph would have been 200 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:18.720 very professional and courteous as they made their way. The 201 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:22.519 hotel was a rather luxurious establishment and had a reputation 202 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:24.799 for being one of the finest hotels in the Midwest, 203 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.759 so he would have been quite quite courteous on the 204 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:31.080 way to the room. So as they walked, the two 205 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:34.120 of them struck up some conversation, some small talk, and 206 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:36.399 Roland mentioned that he had spent a previous night at 207 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:40.600 the nearby Malbeck Hotel but found he paid the rate 208 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.240 he paid for five dollars was rather expensive, so he 209 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.399 decided to go somewhere else, and that was equivalent of 210 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.159 about one hundred and ten dollars today. 211 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:51.759 Oh, Okay, I was wondering because I was like five bucks, yes, yeah, so, 212 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.120 but I just have to say to one hundred and 213 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:57.480 ten bucks today would not get you like a super 214 00:09:57.559 --> 00:09:58.159 nice hotel. 215 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:00.279 No, it wouldn't. That just goes to show how how 216 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:01.159 inflation is. 217 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:04.360 Yeah, so yeah, yeah. 218 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:07.759 At any rate, get it at any rate, at any rate. 219 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:09.879 The two men eventually made their way up to room 220 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:14.120 ten forty six that it was overlooking the inner courtyard 221 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:16.840 of the building. Now, apparently he was specifically requested to 222 00:10:16.840 --> 00:10:18.799 be on the inner part of the hotel for whatever 223 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:19.639 his personal reasons. 224 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.799 I don't know, quieter, or maybe maybe it. 225 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:23.519 Could have been, you know, not wanting to be on 226 00:10:23.559 --> 00:10:25.240 the outside with traffic, yeah people. 227 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:27.799 Yeah, and because I've requested stuff like that before. 228 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:30.080 Yeah, so it's just personal preference most likely. 229 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:31.080 Yeah. 230 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.039 So, as I said, Roland didn't seem to pack too much. 231 00:10:34.320 --> 00:10:36.639 He actually didn't carry any luggage or any bags with him. 232 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.399 So when they reached the hotel and Randolph opened the 233 00:10:39.440 --> 00:10:43.000 room and let rolland in, Roland reached into his overcoat 234 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:47.159 pocket and pulled out three items a brush, a comb, 235 00:10:47.320 --> 00:10:48.120 and toothpaste. 236 00:10:48.279 --> 00:10:50.759 Oh my gosh, I kind of love that, right, just 237 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.600 needing that little I. 238 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:56.440 Mean for someone staying in this hotel and regarding most 239 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.399 of the clientele, he sees it was a bit odd. 240 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.399 But he didn't really dwell on it. So after he 241 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:03.799 put these items in the room above the sink, the 242 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.639 two of them left the room, closed the door. Roland 243 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.039 locked the door and then handed him the key in 244 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.440 a way they went sorry, Randolph locked the door and 245 00:11:12.480 --> 00:11:13.200 handed rolling. 246 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.440 Oh okay, okay, yeah, so Roland. 247 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.840 Now had the key. They returned to the lobby together 248 00:11:18.159 --> 00:11:20.159 and the key now in Roland's pocket. He left the 249 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.960 hotel through the front doors. So it was a little 250 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:26.879 while later that evening, but one of the hotel room 251 00:11:26.919 --> 00:11:31.120 cleaning staff was making the rounds. This woman's name was Mary. 252 00:11:31.279 --> 00:11:35.399 Soap dick. Okay, not soap dick, soap tick. 253 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:38.440 Okay, Just for the record, it sounded like soap dick. 254 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:40.200 But I was just like not going to comment on that. 255 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.240 I decided in my head, no, you're good. 256 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.639 Sotic soap tick. 257 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:45.840 Okay, soap tick. 258 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:47.960 But with the key in there, yeah, soap tick, it 259 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:48.840 sounds sounds like. 260 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:50.919 Very much, especially the way you say yes. 261 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:53.080 Well, I mean, I was listening to other people cover 262 00:11:53.120 --> 00:11:57.039 this quite a bit, and like the BuzzFeed Unsolved network guys, 263 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:59.960 they covered this quite well. They shortened it a little bit, 264 00:12:00.080 --> 00:12:03.039 they but they condensed like the main information and they 265 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:06.759 had a good laugh over soap diick, which I laughed 266 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:07.559 hilariously on her. 267 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.679 It wouldn't be the best last name to have ever. 268 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:12.679 No, but I did want to point out it's not 269 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:15.840 soap dick, it's soap tick, soap tick. 270 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:16.399 Okay. 271 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.559 So anyways, she was now on staff. She was a 272 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:23.679 cleaning lady, and she was making a ring way up 273 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.440 to the tenth floor and she made her way to 274 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:29.279 room ten forty six and found rolling inside when she 275 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.240 opened up. Now, she apologized for interrupting him in the 276 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:34.120 room and was about to leave, but he said, no, no, 277 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:35.840 it was no problem. She can go ahead and do 278 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:38.159 whatever it was that she came to do for her job. 279 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.360 So she did. She fixed, threw him up, and kind 280 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:43.399 of did some like the turnover stuff for like towels 281 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.679 or whatever she needed to do, did some cleaning as 282 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:49.360 per usual. But while she began cleaning, she noticed that 283 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:51.919 he had the shades and the windows drawn and he 284 00:12:52.000 --> 00:12:54.720 left only one single lamp in the room to light it. 285 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:57.759 It was rather dim in there. After a few minutes 286 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:01.559 pass since she began cleaning, Roland put his overcoat and 287 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:04.559 put on his overcoat and brush his hair and then left. 288 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.360 But before he did He asked Mary that when she 289 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:10.360 leaves the room, to leave it unlocked when she was finished. 290 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:15.720 Apparently he was expecting some friends soon. Oh okay, So 291 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:18.320 where's your head at. What are your thoughts on Roland 292 00:13:18.360 --> 00:13:18.720 so far? 293 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:23.559 You know, my main thought right now, it's just I 294 00:13:23.559 --> 00:13:26.120 think it's just because I listen and research too much 295 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:31.399 to a crime. But I'm just like the hotel cleaners 296 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:36.039 that come around and clean the rooms, like that seems unsafe. Hey, 297 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.919 her going into his room by herself and stuff, that 298 00:13:40.080 --> 00:13:41.759 was literally where my mind was. I was like, oh 299 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:43.720 my gosh, that's scary for her. Not that I thought 300 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.320 anything would happen, but I was just like, there's a 301 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:48.679 lot of jobs though today that can put you in situations. 302 00:13:48.799 --> 00:13:51.960 That's true. And I think like nowadays with rooms too, 303 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:56.360 they have identification of people and they have like credit 304 00:13:56.399 --> 00:13:58.679 card numbers, so if anything were to happen, it's like 305 00:13:58.799 --> 00:13:59.600 they can track them down. 306 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.399 That's true. But back then, I feel like shit could 307 00:14:02.440 --> 00:14:02.960 go astray. 308 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:05.960 I don't like Roland didn't even give his address, so 309 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.159 there's no way of tracking down. 310 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:11.759 I mean, he's very mysterious. I have no idea I 311 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:13.879 was when I first when you first said she was 312 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.399 going in the room. I almost was thinking maybe he 313 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:19.480 would have he was dead. So I don't know. I 314 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:22.440 actually I don't. It's too early on for me to 315 00:14:22.480 --> 00:14:23.080 be predicting. 316 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.519 Well, I'm going to tell you now that we go 317 00:14:25.879 --> 00:14:30.200 through quite a bit of information before the incident actually occurs. Okay, 318 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:33.440 So there's a lot leading up to what happens. 319 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:37.519 Okay. So at this point I can't. I can't predict nothing. 320 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:38.919 You can't predict nothing. 321 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:40.000 Yet, I can't predict anything. 322 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.399 Well, Mary wasn't able to predict anything either, and she 323 00:14:44.559 --> 00:14:46.799 was happy to oblige and continued her work. And she 324 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:48.799 did as she asked when she was finished a little 325 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.799 bit later on, and left his room and left it unlocked. Okay, Now, 326 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:56.000 at four pm, she returned to his room with fresh towels, 327 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:57.879 you know, because when she's cleaning earlier, she took out 328 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.039 the dirty ones, coming back with fresh ones later. 329 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:01.799 Okay, yeap. 330 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:05.039 So when she opened the door because it was unlocked, 331 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.240 she saw Roland laying in the bed, fully dressed, in 332 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.799 the dark, with the door unlocked. 333 00:15:10.799 --> 00:15:14.440 Mind you, Oh my gosh, she needs to leave him alone. 334 00:15:14.480 --> 00:15:15.440 He needs some time here. 335 00:15:16.960 --> 00:15:20.000 Well, he was wide awake, just staring off into the dark, 336 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:21.519 and I'm sure he would have looked her at her 337 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:22.200 when she entered. 338 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.320 See, I feel like he needs someone to talk to her, 339 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:24.879 some help. 340 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:29.799 But well, he was clearly expecting someone because she also 341 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:33.159 saw a note sitting on the bedside table next to him. Now, 342 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:34.679 mind you, it was in the dark, but when she 343 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:36.919 opened the door, light was spilling in from the hallway 344 00:15:36.919 --> 00:15:39.039 behind her right, and she was able to read this 345 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:43.399 note clearly written and it said, quote Dawn, I will 346 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:48.360 be back in fifteen minutes. Wait, huh, Okay, So I'm 347 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.360 assuming this note was probably on the outside of the 348 00:15:51.360 --> 00:15:52.960 door at one point and he took it off when 349 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:55.519 he returned and just kind of set it down. So 350 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:58.120 either way, he was clearly expecting someone by the name 351 00:15:58.120 --> 00:15:58.519 of Dawn. 352 00:15:58.639 --> 00:15:59.559 Yes, totally. 353 00:16:01.440 --> 00:16:03.840 So this man clearly was acting strange and Mary didn't 354 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:06.240 know exactly what to make of it. She also made 355 00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:09.559 some statements later on regarding this case, and she said 356 00:16:09.600 --> 00:16:13.240 this quote he always wanted to kind of keep in 357 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.080 the dark. And she also said quote he was either 358 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.559 worried about something or afraid. 359 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:23.120 I'm going to say more so worried. 360 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:24.799 You think worried because if he. 361 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:26.799 Was afraid and shit, Like, he probably wouldn't just be 362 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:29.039 laying on the bed with the door unlocked and stuff. 363 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:31.600 If he was afraid, why would the door be unlocked. 364 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:32.639 That's a big question. 365 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.399 Well, yeah, like it wouldn't be unlocked. 366 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:37.320 Yeah, So why did you say you don't think he's afraid. 367 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.159 I think he's more worried. Okay, Oh did I get 368 00:16:40.159 --> 00:16:40.840 that backwards? 369 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:42.519 Or maybe I got it back I don't know. 370 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:44.080 I think he's more worried rather. 371 00:16:43.919 --> 00:16:45.799 Than afraid, Okay, worried about what though? 372 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:49.919 I think he's stressed about something. I think his mental 373 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:53.799 health is in the gutter. Okay, that's my guess. 374 00:16:53.919 --> 00:16:58.480 That's a respectable answer. Well. The next day, on January third, 375 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:01.679 Mary returned to his room at about ten thirty am, 376 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:05.759 room of course, number ten forty six. This time, the 377 00:17:05.799 --> 00:17:08.759 door was locked from the outside, which must have meant 378 00:17:08.759 --> 00:17:10.759 that the man had left his room, right, Roland was 379 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.720 gone because I left and locked it from the outside. Okay, 380 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:16.559 But when she opened up the door to go inside, 381 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:19.359 it was in there. Clean You think he was in there? 382 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:21.079 Shit, I don't know. 383 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:24.759 Roland was in the exact same spot, wearing the exact 384 00:17:24.839 --> 00:17:27.160 same clothes, with the lights out on the bed. 385 00:17:27.000 --> 00:17:30.960 Wide awake, awake, still hold wait shit, but the door 386 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.920 was locked from the outside. Okay, this is really fucked up. 387 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.119 I also be like, if I was in this room, 388 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.920 I wouldn't want to be disturbed this much. We're the 389 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:42.240 kind of people that go into a hotel and leave 390 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.000 are like, do not disturbed, tag on and the whole time, 391 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:46.839 the whole time, it's like, we don't need our room, 392 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.680 like done anything to it. We're good. 393 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:50.559 No, if we need some new towels, we'll just call 394 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:52.400 the front desk. You we'll come down and grab them. 395 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:54.799 Like so at this trying to be like, excuse me, 396 00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:59.960 can you just like fuck, We're fine, politely fuck off please, 397 00:18:00.119 --> 00:18:01.759 But I mean, this man seems like he needs to 398 00:18:01.799 --> 00:18:02.319 be checked on. 399 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.480 Well, I mean she is checking on the room at least, 400 00:18:05.519 --> 00:18:07.720 so she's getting some of this information, which is good. 401 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:10.839