Speaker 1: Authenticity podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks for choosing Boundless Authenticity. My guest tonight is Sarah Tai,
Speaker 2: our Tarot reader and a host of the Spirit Journey
Speaker 2: Collective podcast. Did I get that right?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, great? So how'd you get into this?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That is a great question.
Speaker 3: I discovered tarot about twenty years ago when I was
Speaker 3: in high school, so I've been reading for a long
Speaker 3: time for myself and friends and things like that. But
Speaker 3: I through my spiritual awakening, which happened about four years ago,
Speaker 3: it was I was asking for my purpose and tara
Speaker 3: was what kept coming to me, and it was the
Speaker 3: one thing I kept saying no to until I finally.
Speaker 3: Spirit has a way of constantly tapping you onto the
Speaker 3: shoulder or throwing it two by four you until you
Speaker 3: say yes. And so for me, I think it was
Speaker 3: probably the third or fourth chap. I finally said, okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to try this. And it's been a journey,
Speaker 3: but I love it. And taro is so misunderstood, but
Speaker 3: it's such a beautiful medicinal tool, is what I found.
Speaker 2: Right, I could agree with you there. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: never gotten into it myself when I was younger, and
Speaker 2: when I say younger, I mean a kid, My mom
Speaker 2: got me a big book on Nataro and I just
Speaker 2: kind of like, no, not for me, and through it
Speaker 2: in the corner. We still have it somewhere in the house,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I've just been avoiding it for the most
Speaker 2: part too, So I get that. But I just, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm one of these people where I have a lot
Speaker 2: of different things thrown at me, and it's like I
Speaker 2: can only do so many things. So I want to
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to talk to you or anybody else
Speaker 2: that's into it, and it really helps, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I feel the same way about astrology.
Speaker 1: I love astrology. That's why I get like you.
Speaker 3: I try to learn how to do it once and
Speaker 3: it's like a giant math problem. So I let the
Speaker 3: professionals deal with astrology. Although I love the idea of it,
Speaker 3: it's probably something.
Speaker 2: Similar exactly should lead it to the professionals. So I mean,
Speaker 2: what is your favorite part about doing this work? Though?
Speaker 3: I think my favorite part is watching how the message
Speaker 3: changes lives.
Speaker 1: And that sounds really grandiose, but it does.
Speaker 3: Every single time I do a reading, especially not all
Speaker 3: the time, but especially when I do events. So I
Speaker 3: offer five more on one sessions, email readings, and then
Speaker 3: I also do events where I get hired for weddings
Speaker 3: and corporate events and parties and things like that, and
Speaker 3: those I love the most because most of the people
Speaker 3: who sit down with me have never ever done a
Speaker 3: Tarot reading. And so when they sit down with me
Speaker 3: and they're expecting something kind of entertaining and woo wo,
Speaker 3: and instead they walk away with some tangible spiritual advice
Speaker 3: that not only land but was like rite what they
Speaker 3: needed to hear. It's really cool to see how they
Speaker 3: take it and how now their entire perception of Tarot
Speaker 3: is completely changed and they have something to help them, like,
Speaker 3: you know, moving on with their life forwards.
Speaker 1: So I love the medicinal aspect.
Speaker 3: I love seeing how it can help people evolve and
Speaker 3: grow and transform.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you know much about human design, but.
Speaker 3: I am a projector, and I don't know how to
Speaker 3: say because I'm not into human design either. But my
Speaker 3: cross of tension, I think is my It's something important,
Speaker 3: but it means I like I provoke people, and basically
Speaker 3: that's what I do through Taro is I provoke change
Speaker 3: and not me like I'm the vessel.
Speaker 1: I'm the conduit for.
Speaker 3: Spirit to basically be the catalyst and provoke change with
Speaker 3: the people I set with. And that's my favorite part
Speaker 3: is just seeing how they take them out message and
Speaker 3: what they.
Speaker 1: Do with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm a manifesting generator or something like that.
Speaker 2: But that's another Okay, coming soon. But I like what
Speaker 2: you said because people who like to behave as though
Speaker 2: there is a hierarchy of healing modalities and only certain
Speaker 2: things can work and all that. But it brings clarity,
Speaker 2: it brings healing, it helps people get through a block,
Speaker 2: and so it's valid. It really is. And what annoys
Speaker 2: me is a super judaeo Christian perspective. Oh it's demonic,
Speaker 2: it'll bring the How is looking at a piece of
Speaker 2: cardboard going to bring demons into your life? I have
Speaker 2: no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up Christians, so I definitely was in
Speaker 3: Doctor David with a lot of that idealism. I broke
Speaker 3: away from Christianity when I was about fifteen.
Speaker 1: Actually, around the time I got my first deck was when.
Speaker 3: I just started asking the questions, and like you, I
Speaker 3: didn't understand why these things were bad or scary. Now, granted,
Speaker 3: when I did used to read. Back then, I didn't
Speaker 3: see the medicine in it. For me, it was just
Speaker 3: entertainment and woo woo, and let's pull out my cards
Speaker 3: because I was young, and you know, it seemed.
Speaker 1: Really mystical and magical. But as I've gotten older.
Speaker 3: I've always had a Tarot deck on hand and I
Speaker 3: would just pulled out here and there for fun. But
Speaker 3: about seventy eight years ago was when I really saw
Speaker 3: the medicine in it and really saw what it can
Speaker 3: do versus like the entertainment aspect that I think a
Speaker 3: lot of people still think Taro is so And I
Speaker 3: love what you said about how you know there's different
Speaker 3: healing modalities. It's not just one and done right, And
Speaker 3: I think that that's important. Like you're saying that Taro
Speaker 3: has never spoken to you in that way, but I'm
Speaker 3: sure you have other modalities that have And so I'm
Speaker 3: a big believer that we all have a modality to work.
Speaker 1: With it, just we just have to find it.
Speaker 3: Some really connect with pendulums, some really connect with angel cards.
Speaker 3: You know, it just depends on your personality. And so
Speaker 3: for me, and I've tried angel cards, I love them.
Speaker 3: But for me, Tarot is it for just it speaks
Speaker 3: to me? Is the best way to say it is.
Speaker 3: I just feel like I can get in there and
Speaker 3: really figure out what the problem is, what the blocks are,
Speaker 3: what the traumas are, and et cetera. And yeah, breaking
Speaker 3: away from that Christianity standpoint has definitely been a journey
Speaker 3: because a lot of my family still is very Christian.
Speaker 1: But I've learned to just follow what feels right to me.
Speaker 3: And the more I've seen how my readings are, you know,
Speaker 3: impact others, and I see I get that positive feedback,
Speaker 3: the more I know I'm right where I'm supposed to be,
Speaker 3: despite the belief system I'm still trying to break out of.
Speaker 2: So what would you say to someone who's on the
Speaker 2: fence about getting into tarot?
Speaker 3: I would say, pick up a deck, honestly. I mean,
Speaker 3: you could always go to a professional as well, you know,
Speaker 3: and let them read your cards. But you can also
Speaker 3: just buy a deck and just take your time with them.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You can start with the book that comes with it,
Speaker 3: or you can just what I did for the longest time,
Speaker 3: even though I had my book, I would google different
Speaker 3: meanings and I'd go with the one that felt right
Speaker 3: to me, and that helped me build up my intuition
Speaker 3: without me even knowing that that's what I was doing.
Speaker 3: So there's lots of different ways you can kind of
Speaker 3: play with it, but definitely if you're interested in figuring
Speaker 3: out if it's for you, I would say, pick up
Speaker 3: a deck and you know, give it some curiosity. Because
Speaker 3: what I found so like I said about seven eight
Speaker 3: years ago, was when I finally saw Caah for.
Speaker 1: The magic and the medicine that it is.
Speaker 3: I was in a really difficult situation in a marriage
Speaker 3: that was starting to turn abusive, and I was very
Speaker 3: unsure if I should leave or not. That was where
Speaker 3: I was at, and it was actually kind of a
Speaker 3: cool story because my so, my then husband, went to
Speaker 3: work early that morning and I I got woken up
Speaker 3: to my dogs going crazy and barking at my back patio.
Speaker 3: And that's significant because I was on the second floor.
Speaker 3: I remember I got woken up and I was like,
Speaker 3: what are they barking at?
Speaker 1: You know, there's nothing out there.
Speaker 3: We're on the second floor, and I looked out the
Speaker 3: window and there's a raven sitting perfectly still on my balcony,
Speaker 3: completely unbothered by my big Springer Spaniel that was jumping
Speaker 3: and clawing at the door, like it just wasn't bothered
Speaker 3: and just looked at me, and maybe was there for
Speaker 3: maybe thirty seconds minute tops, but it just it felt longer,
Speaker 3: but I just sat there and stared at me, and
Speaker 3: then it flew away.
Speaker 1: And that's when I thought, what does that mean? What
Speaker 1: does a raven mean?
Speaker 3: And so I looked it up, and it correlates a
Speaker 3: lot with the death card in Tero. It speaks to
Speaker 3: like the phoenix, new beginning, endings and new beginnings, and
Speaker 3: so that prompted me to pull out my cards for
Speaker 3: the first time ever to really ask them for guidance,
Speaker 3: and I asked should I stay or should I go?
Speaker 3: And the outcome cards were just so relevant. If I stayed,
Speaker 3: if the outcome card was the Devil, which basically means
Speaker 3: that the cycle wasn't going to change, it wasn't going
Speaker 3: to get better if I stay. If I left, the
Speaker 3: outcome card was death, which perfectly correlated with that raven.
Speaker 1: I had just seen.
Speaker 3: And so speaking of new beginnings and letting something ends
Speaker 3: for something new can begin.
Speaker 1: And so that's the first time I saw Taro for
Speaker 1: the medicine that it is.
Speaker 3: And I would say that After that, when I started
Speaker 3: turning into my deck for some real issues, you know,
Speaker 3: I would turn for big life decisions or hey I
Speaker 3: met this guy, is this a good fit? Or you know,
Speaker 3: I would ask for different reasons. But the cards were
Speaker 3: very consistent. So for someone who might want to pick
Speaker 3: up a deck and they want to play with it
Speaker 3: and see if it's.
Speaker 1: For them, look at that consistency. Maybe even I create
Speaker 1: a journal.
Speaker 3: I'm not really a journaler, so I didn't do that,
Speaker 3: but I paid attention because whenever I pull out the cards,
Speaker 3: like there was one one person I was dating for
Speaker 3: a good six months and every time I asked, and
Speaker 3: I asked my deck a lot of times, I was like,
Speaker 3: is this is if things gonna work out? Tell me
Speaker 3: what you know what to expect from this, and over
Speaker 3: and over it kept saying, yeah, he's not going to commit, he's.
Speaker 1: Just having fun. This is not going to go there.
Speaker 1: And it said that's over and.
Speaker 3: Over and over until I finally realized, like, oh wait, no,
Speaker 3: you're right, it's not going anywhere, you know, But it
Speaker 3: was consistent. I mean, and I can tell you I
Speaker 3: asked my cards probably way too many times because I
Speaker 3: was hoping for a different answer. This is way back when,
Speaker 3: but you know, back when I started realizing there's more
Speaker 3: to it. So I would definitely say, journal, pull out
Speaker 3: the cards and see what that consistency is. Because when
Speaker 3: you have seventy eight cards in a deck with a
Speaker 3: different meaning and this and the relevant cards are constantly
Speaker 3: popping up for you over and over.
Speaker 1: Again, you know it says something. So yeah, I would
Speaker 1: just like it, curious and play with it and see
Speaker 1: what comes through.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense to me. I was reading some
Speaker 2: of the reviews on your Facebook and they're incredible. I mean,
Speaker 2: one of them says Sarah's reading for me was so
Speaker 2: interesting and insightful. She doesn't sugarcoat the messages, but still
Speaker 2: delivers them in a thoughtful way, not blunt or harsh.
Speaker 2: She even apologized that the reading may not have been
Speaker 2: what I wanted to hear, especially since it dealt with
Speaker 2: a relationship and maybe it sounds odd. Her voice is
Speaker 2: also very soothing. Despite the message, I could have listened
Speaker 2: to her talk for many more minutes. That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I've been doing this professionally for a little over three
Speaker 3: years now, and I still like second guess myself all
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 1: But the reviews like that are just so.
Speaker 3: Helpful and reminded me that I'm doing the work I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing. You know, I've learned that I'm
Speaker 3: a conduit, so you know, I'm That's why I say
Speaker 3: I'm an intuitive reader, because it's a combination of the cards.
Speaker 1: And what I'm picking up from spirit.
Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of a co creation thing that
Speaker 3: happens when I read for someone, and it's hard, especially
Speaker 3: in not like that review, when I'm picking up something
Speaker 3: that I can tell it's not what they're wanting, but
Speaker 3: that's what's coming through and it's not I've learned through
Speaker 3: my you know, through my professional reading days, you can't sugarcoat,
Speaker 3: and I've learned I don't sugarcote. Even if I'm super
Speaker 3: uncomfortable with sharing what's coming through, I do it and
Speaker 3: it always pays off. But that's Yeah, it's the removing
Speaker 3: the ego and not trying to make it make sense
Speaker 3: or make it what they.
Speaker 1: Want to hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost every single one of these reviews says how
Speaker 2: you're intuitive and very caring and I think that's that's incredible,
Speaker 2: because that's what we need. More of the reason why
Speaker 2: traditional therapy fails is because people feel like their therapist
Speaker 2: doesn't care. You know, but as a skilled helper of
Speaker 2: any practice, carrying comes first and foremost, as well as
Speaker 2: being very straightforward, being very blunt, because you can't just
Speaker 2: continue to let wounds fester or they get infected, and
Speaker 2: then after they stay infected for a while, what happens? Right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so that's great.
Speaker 1: That's a great analogy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I heard you were going to give me
Speaker 2: a reading. Let's have some fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: So I have two different reading options I can offer you.
Speaker 3: I can do one that's short and sweet, which is
Speaker 3: takes about like five minutes, or I can do my
Speaker 3: higher self message, which is a little more in depth
Speaker 3: and takes about.
Speaker 1: Ten to twelve minutes. Let's go for you to have
Speaker 1: at which one short and sweet? All right, So, do
Speaker 1: you have a specific question in mind?
Speaker 3: Or we could just dive into a certain area of
Speaker 3: your life, or we could just see what higher self
Speaker 3: wants you to know and go a.
Speaker 1: Little more general.
Speaker 2: Let's just do a general one. I'm curious, Oh, I
Speaker 2: think you might have frozen. Yeah, I think we froze
Speaker 2: for a second. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Okay, in general, sorry, you froze a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I think we're back on track.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the energy. It breaks zoom like crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, that we are in the middle of Mercury retrograde
Speaker 3: and that loves to mess with Zoom. As you mentioned before,
Speaker 3: I also have a podcast and I use Zoom as
Speaker 3: my reporting platform. And last time Mercury went into retrograde,
Speaker 3: I never had any issues up until that point that
Speaker 3: everything went wrong with Zoom. So Mercury retrograde specifically it
Speaker 3: in Zoom is is it has some issues? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 3: So I'm going to go over what's working for you
Speaker 3: a challenged area, and then what high yourself wants you
Speaker 3: to know overall, and so like the this is short
Speaker 3: and sweet and more general, but usually the general tends
Speaker 3: to land and meet you where you are. Is what
Speaker 3: I've been told and seeing several different times. So what
Speaker 3: is super interesting is the card that's working for you.
Speaker 3: So I have the Five of Pentacles and this what
Speaker 3: generally isn't really a positive card, so I find it,
Speaker 3: you know, I always find it super interesting when the
Speaker 3: not so positive cards lands in the working for You placement.
Speaker 1: So with what I'm picking up from this, so the
Speaker 1: Five of Pentacles tends to speak to feelings of lack,
Speaker 1: struggling with lack mentality, specifically feeling like you don't have
Speaker 1: what you need in order to prosper, in order to
Speaker 1: get where you want to go, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And so with this being in an area that's working
Speaker 3: for you, I feel like what's coming up is feelings
Speaker 3: of lack is something that you struggle with, but I
Speaker 3: think that you are starting to learn how to battle that.
Speaker 3: So when you start to feel like you're missing something
Speaker 3: or you don't have what you need it maybe a
Speaker 3: past version of you would have just kind of given
Speaker 3: up or kind of just sat and wallowed in it.
Speaker 1: And I think now.
Speaker 3: You're at this place where when you start to feel
Speaker 3: like there's no resources and it's not going anywhere, instead
Speaker 3: of giving up, you start to actually, okay, because I
Speaker 3: feel this way, now, I know I.
Speaker 1: Need to look for the resources.
Speaker 3: I know I need to trust. And then I think
Speaker 3: that you found when you've done that, doors start to open.
Speaker 3: So it's almost like when you get pushed up against
Speaker 3: the wall, you have the choice of like sitting down
Speaker 3: and burying your head, or you have the choice of going,
Speaker 3: I'm not giving up.
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep looking.
Speaker 3: And I think that you've learned that way you can
Speaker 3: push up against the wall.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Now, I know more than ever I need to look
Speaker 3: for those resources and know that they're there. So I
Speaker 3: think it's working for you because you're starting to because
Speaker 3: this car is a mindset shift. The invitation is to
Speaker 3: shift to abundance mindset. It's to trust that when you
Speaker 3: don't see the doors, that's when you need to look
Speaker 3: for them and know that they're going to be there.
Speaker 3: Versus if you don't look for the doors, you won't
Speaker 3: find them because you're not looking. So it's starting to
Speaker 3: trust that know those doors are there. I'm going to
Speaker 3: just keep No, I'm not gonna give up. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: trust universe has my back and I'm gona trust that
Speaker 3: whatever I need is available and within reach if I
Speaker 3: look for it. So I think that that's what's working
Speaker 3: for you, is that you're starting to shift that mindset
Speaker 3: from lack of mentality to abundance, which is really cool.
Speaker 3: The next card over is a challenged area for you,
Speaker 3: and that's the Ten of Pentacles and so just also
Speaker 3: I love it when it again it's kind of flip
Speaker 3: flopp because this is more of a positive card. But
Speaker 3: the Ten of Pentacles, the shadow side of the Ten
Speaker 3: of Pentacles is not trusting the impact that you have
Speaker 3: on the world.
Speaker 1: And you're meant to make a big impact.
Speaker 3: If you look at this picture, you could see all
Speaker 3: the people that are coming together. That is part of
Speaker 3: your work in this world is to bring people together.
Speaker 3: And a lot of the shadow sides of the Ten
Speaker 3: of Pentacles is not seeing your own value. It's not
Speaker 3: seeing that that's what one of your superpowers is and
Speaker 3: not trusting that in yourself. So a challenge area for
Speaker 3: you is learning how to trust, like, okay, I do
Speaker 3: impact people, do bring people together, even if it's one
Speaker 3: on one like this. You know, even one of these
Speaker 3: conversations can start a ripple effect, right and still touch
Speaker 3: lots and lots of people, even if it's not in
Speaker 3: front of a bunch of people at once.
Speaker 1: So there's like a motivational speaker and.
Speaker 3: Then there's like one on one or there's both, but
Speaker 3: either way you're making you're meant to make an impact,
Speaker 3: So don't second guess yourself. Don't feel like what you're
Speaker 3: doing in the world isn't as important.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost like you're doubting your light.
Speaker 3: And higher self is like, no, no, no, no, your
Speaker 3: light is meant to shine and it's meant to bring
Speaker 3: people together. But you have to put yourself out there
Speaker 3: and believe it and trust it and step into that
Speaker 3: role willingly. So that's showing as a challenged area for you.
Speaker 3: And then your higher self message overall is the five
Speaker 3: of Swords or five of yes, five of swords reverse.
Speaker 3: It's this is what it looks like upright, but it
Speaker 3: came up reverse for you. So the five of Swords,
Speaker 3: this one speaks to it's really similar to the five
Speaker 3: of untal and that it's a mentality thing. So the
Speaker 3: five Pentacles specifically speaks to whether or not you have
Speaker 3: like tangible things and whether or not you have what
Speaker 3: you need, which I feel is so interesting being next
Speaker 3: to the Ten of Pentacles. I feel like what you're
Speaker 3: learning to trust is that you do bring things to
Speaker 3: the table. But when it comes to actually showing up
Speaker 3: in this ten of Pentacles energy, you're still kind of
Speaker 3: shying away from your own power. So it's like you're
Speaker 3: trusting that you have what you need to make an impact,
Speaker 3: but when you actually own the fact that you're making
Speaker 3: an impact.
Speaker 1: You shy away.
Speaker 3: Is kind of the energy that I'm getting around that.
Speaker 3: And then the Five of Swords, So I like the
Speaker 3: fact that it's reversed. It speaks to awareness, but it
Speaker 3: is saying that, and I think that it's because of
Speaker 3: this lack of mentality that you're coming away from. You
Speaker 3: still kind of feel like, for some reason, you feel
Speaker 3: like things around helping people are really messed up, like whatever,
Speaker 3: like your.
Speaker 1: Goal to help people, whatever it is.
Speaker 3: I feel like you feel like there's something in the
Speaker 3: world way of you fully embodying that what you what
Speaker 3: you bring to the world, And so I'm trying.
Speaker 1: To explain this and I'm struggling a little bit.
Speaker 3: So the Five of Pentacles is a feeling of things
Speaker 3: being too messed up to be okay. Like it's kind
Speaker 3: of like taking a base and throwing it on the
Speaker 3: ground and out shattered and feeling like, well, the base
Speaker 3: is broken, it's never going to be okay again.
Speaker 1: But that's the mentality the sword suit is all about.
Speaker 3: The mind is all about the narrative, the lens, the
Speaker 3: things you're the way you're you're seeing things, and specifically,
Speaker 3: the Five of Swords is all about your perception.
Speaker 1: So your perception.
Speaker 3: The struggle is that you don't have the resources to
Speaker 3: make an impact, but you know better.
Speaker 1: So with it being reversed, it is saying that you
Speaker 1: know that that's not true.
Speaker 3: You know that that's a feeling that you have but
Speaker 3: it's not reality, which is a really cool awareness that
Speaker 3: you have. And I I tease the analogy. I don't
Speaker 3: know what it's called, but it's a Japanese cultural thing
Speaker 3: where they take where they break bases or they break
Speaker 3: china bowls or whatever, and then they put it back
Speaker 3: together with gold. And so I don't know what it's called.
Speaker 3: I should learn what it's called because I always compare
Speaker 3: this card to it. But it's basically being able to
Speaker 3: take that broken glass and put it back together with
Speaker 3: gold and know that it's going to be okay. Nothing
Speaker 3: is ever so broken it can't be put back together
Speaker 3: again in some capacity, And the Five of Swords is
Speaker 3: in and of itself about overcoming whatever it is you
Speaker 3: feel like you can't overcome. So I like the fact
Speaker 3: that there's an awareness here because I feel like whatever
Speaker 3: it is that makes you feel like that's holding you
Speaker 3: back from making an impact, you aren't fully buying into
Speaker 3: that narrative. There's a part of you that is because
Speaker 3: I think, like I said, you used to have more
Speaker 3: of a lack mentality, and you're learning to shift it.
Speaker 3: So I think that now you're starting to push back
Speaker 3: against that narrative and saying no, I know, I feel
Speaker 3: like things are too messed up and I can't make
Speaker 3: this difference. But I also know that that's my own feelings,
Speaker 3: my own perception, my own lens I'm wearing, and I
Speaker 3: know I can change that lens and change how I'm
Speaker 3: doing it. So yeah, I feel like the big picture,
Speaker 3: like I left the Ton of Pentacles, is right in
Speaker 3: the middle. The big message is you are here to
Speaker 3: make an impact, and the challenge is learning how to
Speaker 3: shift to your mindset from lack of mentality and feeling
Speaker 3: like things are too messed up to know that no
Speaker 3: things are going to be okay, and I can still
Speaker 3: make the difference I want to make as I make
Speaker 3: this shift from the narrative I was telling myself before to.
Speaker 2: Now that's interesting reading. I would say that some of
Speaker 2: it's actually pretty accurate. And here's what's actually been going on.
Speaker 2: In my life. I've been I wouldn't say struggling, but
Speaker 2: it's been a challenge because where I live in Barbados,
Speaker 2: it's like, financially, everybody has this massive hole in their
Speaker 2: wallet because the government is continuing to squeeze the living
Speaker 2: daylights out of you every place that they can, and
Speaker 2: because we rely on tourism as our means of foreign
Speaker 2: exchange and stuff, and we can't buy oil and certain
Speaker 2: other items that we need. That continues to grow and
Speaker 2: grow because they expect that they can attract tourists to
Speaker 2: the country and they can raise the prices for the
Speaker 2: tourists who have a higher exchange rate to pay these
Speaker 2: exorbitant prices, and so it's killing everyone. So in my
Speaker 2: life I've been wanting to move because it's like, Wow,
Speaker 2: I would be able to stretch my dollars a lot
Speaker 2: better because I work hard to get these clients. And
Speaker 2: when you're in the business of self sabotage as well,
Speaker 2: you quickly realize exactly how many people out there actually
Speaker 2: want to change. And it's difficult for me to work
Speaker 2: with people who just want to talk to a therapist
Speaker 2: for an hour once or twice a week at infinitem.
Speaker 2: That's not my mission on this planet. My mission is
Speaker 2: to get you going and leave you at your strongest.
Speaker 2: You can do what you have to do. Right. So
Speaker 2: I've been having some second thoughts, and I've also been wondering, like,
Speaker 2: is anybody actually listening to this podcast and getting anything
Speaker 2: out of it anymore? Like things like that, you know,
Speaker 2: so spot on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I when I was looking at a ton of pentacles,
Speaker 3: I was picking up your podcast.
Speaker 1: Definitely.
Speaker 3: As far as the mindset, yeah, it's it's hard because
Speaker 3: to your point with you know.
Speaker 1: Are so real quick? Are you? So? You are you
Speaker 1: in the US or not in the US?
Speaker 2: No, I used to live there, but I was. I
Speaker 2: live in Barbados, snow in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 3: I know in the US we have some government, you know,
Speaker 3: I know a lot of US are struggling financially, So
Speaker 3: I don't know how, But I think that the idea
Speaker 3: is still the same, is that when you're struggling by
Speaker 3: your government rules, you're you're living in the major right,
Speaker 3: You're still living by these rules that are put on
Speaker 3: you versus when you're able to kind of go beyond
Speaker 3: that and go more to like law of manifestation, law
Speaker 3: of attraction, things like that.
Speaker 1: That's because that's a universal law.
Speaker 3: When you learn how to use that, the systems, the
Speaker 3: governmental systems don't really You're you're working on a law
Speaker 3: that's bigger than the government, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: It's it's more of the energize. It's really hard.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it's everybody's getting squeezed everywhere,
Speaker 2: so might challenge where do I move to that is
Speaker 2: going to be better than this? That's that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: for sure, it's surrounding energy.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all good. I one hundred percent agree
Speaker 1: because I'm in California.
Speaker 3: We're like one of the most expensive states in the
Speaker 3: US to live in, and it's extremely really like every
Speaker 3: time I go to the grocery store these days, I
Speaker 3: want to cry.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's all I bought, that's how much ub spending.
Speaker 3: But it hurts, you know, But I've also seen people
Speaker 3: break out of the system, so I know it's possible.
Speaker 3: It's just learning how to harness and really trust that
Speaker 3: surrender and that's really hard, Like you to your point
Speaker 3: when you have bills to pay, rent to pay, you know,
Speaker 3: you have a livelihood you have to upkeep. So I
Speaker 3: feel like part of what you're learning how to do
Speaker 3: is use your mindset to help break out of that
Speaker 3: in order to make the impact that you want. But
Speaker 3: it's it's going to be a combination of like learning
Speaker 3: where to go, which I feel like that's going to
Speaker 3: be more of a surrender, like you're going to get
Speaker 3: guided to that, but also learning how to trust something
Speaker 3: bigger than you that it's going to be okay, but
Speaker 3: totally easier said than done, one hundred percent. It's it's
Speaker 3: a combination of a lot of different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, It's like it's interesting because this is kind
Speaker 2: of like a mentality has come back around, because you know,
Speaker 2: ten twelve years ago, I was broke, sleeping on the
Speaker 2: or couches and stuff like that, trying to make things work,
Speaker 2: you know, and I had to completely shift all of
Speaker 2: that to get to a point where I was working
Speaker 2: really hard at building a business and getting clients and
Speaker 2: having enough money. And I had to conquer that and
Speaker 2: then it's like, Okay, I was comfortable for a couple
Speaker 2: of years and then now it's like every week, you know,
Speaker 2: where's my money going? Like you said, the grocery bag
Speaker 2: is getting smaller and smaller because you're buying a less stuff, right,
Speaker 2: And it's it's not even so much about myself because
Speaker 2: I myself, I don't require a lot of things, but
Speaker 2: I I don't live on a farm, but I could
Speaker 2: as well. I have so many animals to support and
Speaker 2: things like that. So it's been it's been tough as
Speaker 2: well as you know, kids wanting things and all that.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I yeah, totally. I have
Speaker 3: an eight year old. It starts tomorrow. I'm just like
Speaker 3: buying all the things like going home, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: all my money back.
Speaker 1: To school and night, you know, we're back to school days.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's it's a lot, no for sure,
Speaker 3: But I do think that that And I'm preaching to
Speaker 3: the choir because I am also struggling with like it's
Speaker 3: so funny when I get in these modes of trust,
Speaker 3: right where like I know, I just I just fully believe, Yeah,
Speaker 3: i'mna get I'm gonna make this much today, And I
Speaker 3: get into this modehere I just believe it, and.
Speaker 1: Then it happens and I'm like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: just have to replicate that.
Speaker 3: But it's not exactly that simple because once that happens,
Speaker 3: then fear based comes in the next day of wait,
Speaker 3: well I actually be able to do that again, maybe
Speaker 3: I won't be able to and then guess what, I don't.
Speaker 3: So it's so interesting, like I know that there's a mindset.
Speaker 3: I know, I know there's an aspect to it that works,
Speaker 3: but it's like you also have to fully take that
Speaker 3: leap of faith, and that's hard when you're surrounded in
Speaker 3: this situation where everything feels hard. Yeah, if you have
Speaker 3: to believe, it can be easy while everything feels hard.
Speaker 2: It's difficult because in my life I see so much magic,
Speaker 2: but then there's different things, like money is just a
Speaker 2: completely different energy. People say whatever they want. It's a
Speaker 2: completely different energy. Half the time, it feels like it's
Speaker 2: an evil energy because it's something you can hardly get
Speaker 2: a hold of. Every time you get accustomed to it,
Speaker 2: it changes and something in your life changes and it
Speaker 2: makes it harder and so you have to play that
Speaker 2: balancing act again and it can be tricky. And so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like that phase that I'm going through
Speaker 2: right now. It is like I have to repattern redo
Speaker 2: certain things I thought i'd already conquered, and it's frustrating.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, one hundred percent, I'm right
Speaker 3: there with you with that exact same mentality that you
Speaker 3: described it perfectly. There's actually, you know, there's this other
Speaker 3: podcast that started me on my spiritual journey. Because before
Speaker 3: I'd started my spiritual journey four years ago, I was econostic.
Speaker 3: I didn't really have a belief system on what I
Speaker 3: was doing here. You know, I was like more to
Speaker 3: light atheist, you know, because I wanted to believe in something.
Speaker 3: But I also was like, but come on, there are
Speaker 3: people just saying that's make themselves feel better, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like, I just didn't have that trust
Speaker 3: that I found when I found my spirituality. But I
Speaker 3: started listening to podcasts, and the first one I listened
Speaker 3: to was this podcast called Expanded and they were rooted
Speaker 3: in science. So a lot of what their workshops were
Speaker 3: based in was self hypnosis and reprogramming beliefs, and so
Speaker 3: that was what got me into my spirituality because I
Speaker 3: needed that logic and that science. I'm like, I need
Speaker 3: something that's tangible because otherwise I'm not going to believe
Speaker 3: in it, and it's tangible, and they have different workshops
Speaker 3: and what they like. One one of the things that
Speaker 3: they offer is a money workshop, which I'm actually just
Speaker 3: now setting myself up for. But the whole idea is
Speaker 3: that money it's not I wouldn't say it's evil. I
Speaker 3: do think it is an energy, and I do think
Speaker 3: it is a certain type of energy, but I think
Speaker 3: it's a worthiness energy. And I think that especially when
Speaker 3: I when I've learned from like their workshops with money,
Speaker 3: is that it's it's around whether or not you feel
Speaker 3: like you're secure with it, and most of us aren't
Speaker 3: because unless we were we were blessed in a lifestyle
Speaker 3: where we were really able to see that it's okay
Speaker 3: to be comfortable. You know, a lot of us are like,
Speaker 3: we're not used to that idea, and so there's a
Speaker 3: work that comes with it. And interestingly enough, love and
Speaker 3: money go hand in hand. So if you if you
Speaker 3: struggle in your love life, you often struggle in your
Speaker 3: money life too, because it's so fascinating that they're like, no,
Speaker 3: I definitely struggle.
Speaker 2: So that's a good thing. Yeah, well, it's interesting, you know.
Speaker 2: It's just it's like, what's kind of you know, is
Speaker 2: really interesting because I know people who are multi millionaires
Speaker 2: and even they are sweating, They're like, what is going on?
Speaker 2: It's like, I want to stay rich, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, because I want to stay
Speaker 2: what I'm pretty well balanced to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've kind of in that mindset of can we just
Speaker 3: go back to like trading and just you know, service
Speaker 3: trading and you know, I'll I be in my gift,
Speaker 3: you be in your gift and we can all like collaborate.
Speaker 1: But I know that that's never going to happen. But
Speaker 1: I just feel like, yeah, it's it's hard right now
Speaker 1: for sure, all around.
Speaker 2: It's just right now. I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: stay like that forever. Things you'd have a wave coming
Speaker 2: back around. No yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
Speaker 3: And when you trust spirit and surrender, which is the
Speaker 3: hardest part to do, but that's when.
Speaker 1: The magic happens. And when doors tend to open.
Speaker 3: Is when you're like, Okay, I don't feel like the
Speaker 3: possibility is here. But like an interesting example, my so
Speaker 3: as I mentioned I grew up very Christian, and so
Speaker 3: my mom and I are still very close.
Speaker 1: But she's still very Christian and she knows that I'm not,
Speaker 1: and we have a healthy respect on our beliefs.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I would notice, and I've
Speaker 1: noticed this for years, is things just happened for her.
Speaker 1: Like if we're running late and it's a busy mal
Speaker 1: or something we're trying to get somewhere on time, she
Speaker 1: always gets the parking spot that's right up front, or
Speaker 1: you know, she's going through a difficult time and she
Speaker 1: doesn't know how these are going to work themselves out
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Bam bam bam.
Speaker 3: These things just line up. Things happen, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'll comment on it and she'll.
Speaker 1: Say, oh, well, I.
Speaker 3: Was praying on the way to the place, and I
Speaker 3: pread it was boring that, you know, I knew God
Speaker 3: was going to deliver and that things things were going
Speaker 3: to line up. And one thing that I've learned through
Speaker 3: my spirituality through Taro even is faith is so powerful
Speaker 3: and it doesn't necessarily have to be in any kind
Speaker 3: of specific belief system. So for my mom, she's a Christian,
Speaker 3: and so she that's where her faith was and she's
Speaker 3: But the thing is, she really believes that, you know,
Speaker 3: when she praised, when when she asked for things, and
Speaker 3: then and it's like, I really need this to happen,
Speaker 3: but I don't know how it's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So I trust my higher power to make it happen.
Speaker 3: It happens, and so I feel like that is probably
Speaker 3: more of the struggle with money and the situations that
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us are in. Is that
Speaker 3: faith and literally trusting without needing to know how it's
Speaker 3: going to work out, just trusting that, Okay, this is
Speaker 3: my dilemma, this is what I need to happen on
Speaker 3: some capacity asking for it, because they always say asking
Speaker 3: you shall receive right if you don't.
Speaker 1: Ask right, but then trusting you it's going to work out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it's it's again so much easier said
Speaker 3: than done. But I feel like it's that faith piece
Speaker 3: just because I see it with my mom and yet
Speaker 3: I've tried over and over to be Christian, it just
Speaker 3: does not. It feels like I'm putting like a shoe
Speaker 3: on that just doesn't fit, Like the beliefs are just
Speaker 3: they're not for me.
Speaker 1: My beliefs are so much bigger.
Speaker 3: I just feel like, yeah, I can't be confined to
Speaker 3: all these systems.
Speaker 1: I really just can't. At so I know for sure
Speaker 1: Christianity isn't for me.
Speaker 3: But after watching her and then having moments on my
Speaker 3: own where I don't know how things are going to
Speaker 3: work out, but I put down my stress and my
Speaker 3: panic about it, and then doors open and again it's
Speaker 3: it's a mindset thing. You have to really trust and surrender,
Speaker 3: and I think the as humans that's extremely difficult, but
Speaker 3: I think that that's really where the power is, and
Speaker 3: that's just from my own experiences.
Speaker 2: I agree. So where can we find you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So my website is www dot spirit journey dot com
Speaker 3: and you can find me on Instagram at Spirit Underscore
Speaker 3: Journey Underscore Collective. I offer one on one sessions, email readings,
Speaker 3: and I just recently launched something called the Alignment Project,
Speaker 3: which is taking a terror reading kind of like what
Speaker 3: I gave to you, but way more in depth, and
Speaker 3: then turning it into actual actionable steps, tangible steps of
Speaker 3: step one, step two, step three, like this is your goal,
Speaker 3: this is what you're trying to overcome. These are the
Speaker 3: steps to help get you there with journal prompts and
Speaker 3: everything else, kind of like a roadmap. So that's a
Speaker 3: new thing I am offering. I'm really excited about. But yeah,
Speaker 3: that's and then I also have my own podcast, Spirit
Speaker 3: Journey Collective, so that's that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1: And I'm on Spotify, YouTube and Apple podcasts.
Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, thanks for that reading and thanks for being
Speaker 2: on the Boundless Authenticity Podcast.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. This was great.
Speaker 2: Awesome. I hope we talk again soon. Yeah.
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