Speaker 1: That's no moon, it's a space station.
Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show. A few things
Speaker 2: before we get started. For one, our new documentary is
Speaker 2: now available on fowsome. Fowsome is a streaming app that
Speaker 2: can be found on Roku tv, but you can download
Speaker 2: it on any smart device, and it's now featuring our
Speaker 2: new Secret Space Program documentary which features Tony red Riggs,
Speaker 2: who is an SSP experiencer we've interviewed many times and
Speaker 2: he is going to be telling us about where his
Speaker 2: research has led him since he's left the program, and
Speaker 2: he's found himself in some pretty interesting areas regarding remote viewing.
Speaker 2: So we're going to get into some of that today.
Speaker 2: But the documentary is now available and if you guys
Speaker 2: want to go and watch it, you can do so
Speaker 2: from the streaming app fowsome. And Tony, you know, that
Speaker 2: was an integral part of the film and it took
Speaker 2: us a few years to put it all together. We
Speaker 2: finally got it out, and you know, when I sent
Speaker 2: it to you, Tony, your feedback was amazing. I think
Speaker 2: some of your quotes that you sent me ended up
Speaker 2: into the movie trailer because there was just a genuine review,
Speaker 2: you know, so that was pretty cool. But you know,
Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on that? I know it's something
Speaker 2: you know, there's been many hit pieces and attacks on
Speaker 2: not just you personally, but the whole secret space program
Speaker 2: in general. So what were your thoughts when you, you know,
Speaker 2: watched the film finally and and you know, what's it
Speaker 2: looking like today?
Speaker 1: I promised Veronica, I'm not going to cry on Journey
Speaker 1: the Truth. So first, I'm happy to see you guys.
Speaker 1: It's been forever and I love you guys and doing
Speaker 1: good stuff and it was one of my favorite groups
Speaker 1: of people here. No, you're you released it like I
Speaker 1: think a week after the Darcy Weir thing.
Speaker 2: Right, And that wasn't intentional I did.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know, And it was a trap like
Speaker 1: Darcy were he paid me two hundred bucks to interview me.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm out contractually, shouldn't say that. But I was
Speaker 1: at the San Jose Conference tech conference, me and Chris O'Connor,
Speaker 1: and that whole conference was like under legal threats with
Speaker 1: Randy Kramer and and Lena and Chris and me and
Speaker 1: doctor Sala and uh forgetting John Charles and a few
Speaker 1: other people, and everybody was like they slid us a
Speaker 1: contract to speak at this conference and it said, you'll know,
Speaker 1: you can't work together for two years. Everybody at this
Speaker 1: conference cannot work together for the next two years. And
Speaker 1: it was like a month before the first de sinc.
Speaker 1: We were like, what what so in order? And he said, well,
Speaker 1: if you guys back out now, I've already spent you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of money promoting it, I'm gonna sue you
Speaker 1: guys to recoup. So me and Chris were like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll come. And then Dan Willis rest his beautiful soul,
Speaker 1: did a zoom appearance and did a great you know,
Speaker 1: did his presentation. But when we went there, Darcy Weer
Speaker 1: was waiting and he made it look like he was
Speaker 1: a fan and he totally was misleading on his intentions
Speaker 1: and filmed us for a documentary he put out and
Speaker 1: it was a total hit piece. And I was in
Speaker 1: the commercial, like the trailer making me look dumb like
Speaker 1: he it was in like he had the camera running
Speaker 1: when we were just sitting He's like, hey, guys, I'll
Speaker 1: be just a minute, and he had the camera set
Speaker 1: up and it was on and recording unbeknounced to us
Speaker 1: and I was just sitting there and he put that
Speaker 1: in the trailer, like he asked me a question, and
Speaker 1: then he went to that like and put you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like it was just it was this
Speaker 1: greasy man the way he did it right. That came
Speaker 1: out and I was shocked, you know, I was hurt
Speaker 1: by it. And I don't feel that I've really through
Speaker 1: the time that I've spoke, since I've known you guys,
Speaker 1: and since I spoke publicly, I feel like I really
Speaker 1: haven't exploited people. I really tried to walk the narrow
Speaker 1: even though you know, I mean, I clearly have made mistakes,
Speaker 1: but I don't feel I've done everything anything to kind
Speaker 1: of warrant that. And I don't expect. I expect people
Speaker 1: to be skeptical of my information. It's cool, but to
Speaker 1: be faked, you know, like to be lied lied about
Speaker 1: and publicly. And then your yours came out and put
Speaker 1: the whole thing on a real light and we got
Speaker 1: real evidence, man, Like, let's see, here I go. We
Speaker 1: got evidence. We got evidence that I was there, and
Speaker 1: if I was there, then that means I was probably
Speaker 1: at the rest of it too. Like we did the
Speaker 1: same thing in Seattle, me and my friend Rob, Rob Hainey, hello,
Speaker 1: if you're watching, And we went to Seattle a month
Speaker 1: before you and I Tyler went to yo Kern, and uh,
Speaker 1: it was the same experience, like I knew my way
Speaker 1: around without ever knowing it. And I can, yeah, call
Speaker 1: my mama right now and ask her, did Tony ever
Speaker 1: go to Inyokern when he was a kid or anytime?
Speaker 1: And the answer is no. You know, I never went
Speaker 1: there ever in my life. And we And it's funny
Speaker 1: because I went and looked, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: interviews where I described that portable we went into are gone. Really,
Speaker 1: so I described it, you know, the little the little
Speaker 1: cubby hole, the little cubicles. I had described that whole
Speaker 1: thing in interviews a few times early on in my testimony,
Speaker 1: you know, early the first few years, you know, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: I was doing a ton of interviews and those are
Speaker 1: all gone now. So but that's what I called that
Speaker 1: out years before we ever went there. And then boom,
Speaker 1: we found the building exactly how I remembered it was.
Speaker 1: So You're documentary said a lot of things straight, and
Speaker 1: you know that's how I feel about it, Like I really,
Speaker 1: you know, at a time when it was like when
Speaker 1: I got a total gut punch. You guys set the
Speaker 1: record straight with that documentary. It was cool, Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: you and thank you. Yeah it was It was interesting
Speaker 1: because the whole film was, you know, we're just building
Speaker 1: a case for the secret space program, right, and you're
Speaker 1: actually dealing with the lower in the film that it
Speaker 1: didn't serve time in the military, but you're you actually
Speaker 1: have more evidence than most. So that's why we decided
Speaker 1: to basically highlight ear testimony throughout and then pepper in
Speaker 1: the other stuff and really build this case. So like
Speaker 1: we okay, here it is in the military end, but
Speaker 1: here's this guy who didn't go in the military, and
Speaker 1: this is how this is the other way they bring
Speaker 1: people into these programs. So it was very ambitious, and
Speaker 1: we know there hasn't been a film done like that,
Speaker 1: so we're just glad. We're grateful the feedback that we're getting.
Speaker 1: It's been amazing. So I didn't know when I was
Speaker 1: filming you finally around. I had no real vision for
Speaker 1: the documentary at that point other than then I just
Speaker 1: need to get this footage, and that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it started. It worked out, and you did a really
Speaker 1: good job editing you to putting it all together to
Speaker 1: make sense to people. So a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: do that, and I'd like to see overturn to evidence.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of great people speaking
Speaker 1: right now about their time in the SSP, and they're
Speaker 1: picking up where everybody left off and not circling back
Speaker 1: and accentuating their own evidence. How do you believe that
Speaker 1: you were there for one? And two? Make somebody that
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in any of this. You don't talk to
Speaker 1: the cron choir, don't preach to the choir, talk to
Speaker 1: the skeptics, show me, prove it to me, right, And
Speaker 1: here's a lack of that these days, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's fizzled out. That's yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And speaking of that, I'm speaking at a conference
Speaker 3: in Michigan. Your homestay actually coming up here in like
Speaker 3: a week and a half. Good friend Frank Rigalis putting
Speaker 3: it on and Jean Charles is speaking there, and Frank
Speaker 3: is like, all right, Aaron. For the people that know
Speaker 3: nothing about this stuff, like going from that to hearing
Speaker 3: Jehan Charles might be a bit much, you know, And
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, yeah, I understand. So he wants me
Speaker 3: to really set set it up, like give the give
Speaker 3: the proof and the foundation for there be even being
Speaker 3: these secret space programs bleeding up. And then people hear
Speaker 3: Jean Charles and he has a lot of evidence too,
Speaker 3: just like you he has.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, he seems great. So he and I disagree
Speaker 1: on a certain thing and we kind of quit talking.
Speaker 1: But ultimately jac is an important part of it all.
Speaker 1: He's got great at it. I absolutely believe he is
Speaker 1: real and genuine. I have a slide. I actually found
Speaker 1: research into human teleportation, so it's not far fit. He
Speaker 1: just comes right out with it and people go, what's
Speaker 1: like teleport and I just teleport. When I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I could teleport. I had a beach sand and here's
Speaker 1: the proof. Yeah, and it's great. He's got great evid
Speaker 1: it's his documentary is another one that's really exceptional as
Speaker 1: far as proving it. And like I said, there's a
Speaker 1: school of people that come up with proof and the
Speaker 1: school of people that aren't. And I'm begging the people
Speaker 1: that are just come up with some proof, man, just
Speaker 1: something please please r Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's and I think, what were you
Speaker 2: going to say something else?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I'll send that to you, Aaron
Speaker 1: and help you out. I have a document about the
Speaker 1: research and teleportation and help you for setting that up.
Speaker 3: That would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yeah, I'd love it. I would love to corroborate, collaborate, celebrate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, whatever the word is.
Speaker 1: Thanks you fantastic.
Speaker 2: So one of the things I noticed doing the film was,
Speaker 2: you know, we were under me personally. Maybe I don't,
Speaker 2: I can't speak for Aaron, but it was under intense
Speaker 2: attack from not just like the typical online stuff, but
Speaker 2: just even things in your personal life that you know
Speaker 2: are related to what you're working on in the moment,
Speaker 2: and they try to whatever, just energetically, you know, just
Speaker 2: handicap you, so you just can't fully put your energy
Speaker 2: into the project or whatever it is. And anytime that
Speaker 2: we do an episode about the SSP that is that
Speaker 2: carries a lot of weight, it seems like the attacks follow,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's so, what is it? I'm thinking
Speaker 2: to myself, like, what could it be that they're attacking
Speaker 2: so much? And I'm looking comparing that what we talk
Speaker 2: about to the mainstream disclosure, and I think at all costs,
Speaker 2: what they're trying to really prevent is that they cannot
Speaker 2: let people understand that they have colonized space. They're humans
Speaker 2: in space. Like that's the main thing I think they're
Speaker 2: trying to cover up above and beyond everything else, like,
Speaker 2: not even the twenty in back concept. It's the fact
Speaker 2: that humans have colonized space, on columnized space, on many
Speaker 2: planetary bodies, and have breakaway civilizations everywhere. And it seems,
Speaker 2: you know, that contradicts what they're trying to just trickle
Speaker 2: out to us on the mainstream. So what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: That's an amazing point, and I it's honestly half of
Speaker 1: my career is explaining that what you just said, that
Speaker 1: they're incrementally letting us know. It was a big deal
Speaker 1: for them to show the UAPs the first tranch of
Speaker 1: data was a bigger deal than anybody realizes because it
Speaker 1: showed us it defeated the number one skepticism of the
Speaker 1: ufology was the physics. So the number one thing that
Speaker 1: all the scientists and everybody says is they can't But yeah,
Speaker 1: how are we going to get there? How are we going
Speaker 1: to get to space so fast? So we don't have
Speaker 1: any proof of any technology that can possibly exist, they
Speaker 1: can go that fast. And then when they came out
Speaker 1: with film of craft and go to space in one
Speaker 1: minute and then back down into the water, it dashed
Speaker 1: that argument to pieces. And that was a big deal
Speaker 1: for one and so they let it They're letting it
Speaker 1: out incrementally. What I'm saying is they're going to give
Speaker 1: a time to catch up that we're out there already.
Speaker 1: And I think that there's a battle for who's going
Speaker 1: to be ultimately in control. So I think that at
Speaker 1: the top of everything in the world, you might have
Speaker 1: one group that runs everything, but there's it's made up
Speaker 1: of fifty or one hundred people that fight for position
Speaker 1: to who's going to be the grand Poopa. And they
Speaker 1: have their own version of what disclosure looks like, you know,
Speaker 1: for one, and for two, their ETS have a say,
Speaker 1: I think we don't take for granted the exo political
Speaker 1: ramifications of disclosure. So the ET's are going to have
Speaker 1: to put up with our dumb asses. So you know
Speaker 1: what I mean a certain level, the ETS are going
Speaker 1: to be like, oh great, these guys are coming up.
Speaker 1: They've been programmed to be idiots for the last one
Speaker 1: hundred years from their own media, and now they're walking
Speaker 1: around here with us, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like and we on a proxy level
Speaker 1: that might be explain what we're getting. Jesus, I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say this on camera. That might be a proxy version
Speaker 1: of what we're getting with all the mass immigration, because
Speaker 1: we're seeing people that have grown up, that have lived
Speaker 1: life in a culture, third world culture that has its
Speaker 1: own rule sets of morality going to another culture that
Speaker 1: has a higher set of rule sets and morality, and
Speaker 1: then their excuses to install surveillance over everything. So we're
Speaker 1: seeing that, we're seeing like this disclosure happening, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like a trust run, like a like
Speaker 1: a pre pre game for disclosure for these cultures, cultures
Speaker 1: that are incompatible to mix and called post disclosure is
Speaker 1: going to be that. And then in the middle of
Speaker 1: all that, they can say, oh, yeah, we had a
Speaker 1: colony up there a while ago, and we had these
Speaker 1: under earths. I think there's more here on Earth, colonies
Speaker 1: underneath of us that have ets coming and going because
Speaker 1: the gravity is convenient than in a lot of the
Speaker 1: bodies in the Solar system. Because the gravity is expensive, yeah,
Speaker 1: energetically expensive, that's that's an interesting point. I love that,
Speaker 1: you know, you always have a very unique lens you
Speaker 1: view all this stuff through, and that explains a lot
Speaker 1: of your analogies. Yeah, but that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to me, and I definitely think that they're here,
Speaker 1: especially human looking ets. In fact, there's a crop circles
Speaker 1: years ago in like the seventies that showed a human face.
Speaker 1: It was a response to a call that SETI, the
Speaker 1: SETI program sent out that I don't know, a decade
Speaker 1: prior whatever it was. And then so they sent back
Speaker 1: the same like blueprint thing that that was sent out,
Speaker 1: but it was altered. And then the other one next
Speaker 1: to it was a human face, And everybody is like,
Speaker 1: why would they show a human face? So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, that's them. They're telling us that's what they
Speaker 1: look like. They look like us. We are you selfie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a selfie. But most people hadn't connected
Speaker 2: at that. I mean, when you listen to the research
Speaker 2: on it, they're trying to figure out what they're telling
Speaker 2: about us. But I think they're telling us that, you know,
Speaker 2: these ets are primarily human as well.
Speaker 1: I said recently, Yeah, I do talks I do Q
Speaker 1: and A once a month on my Patriot, but every
Speaker 1: week in my Tier to three it's basically week a talk,
Speaker 1: you know, and we all entertain and it's like back
Speaker 1: and forth with you know, a dozen maybe fifteen twenty people,
Speaker 1: dozen people. And recently they were like, we were talking
Speaker 1: about post disclosure and I said, look, and I said
Speaker 1: this in an interview recently, and I and it's true,
Speaker 1: and it's true, and people don't think this. When I
Speaker 1: was young, I thought that rich people were noble. I'm
Speaker 1: in the kid in the trailer park, right, and so
Speaker 1: I thought that people in order to be wealthy they
Speaker 1: had to be morally noble, that they were just better
Speaker 1: than because I saw a lot of people morally bankrupt
Speaker 1: in the trailer park, right, And so I assumed that
Speaker 1: having your act together financially translated to having your act
Speaker 1: together morally, And come to find out it's quite the opposite.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just people are people, and we think that
Speaker 1: ets are the same the lens. We think that because
Speaker 1: they have space travel that they're morally, you know, spiritually
Speaker 1: better and they're just higher wiser, they're wiser involved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they live now it's a case, but the reality
Speaker 1: is ets their snobs, the total snobs and post disclosure.
Speaker 1: Don't expect to be around in ET and not get
Speaker 1: snobbed when people ask me. I get asked all the
Speaker 1: time in my Q and a's what was the gray
Speaker 1: like when you were on Mars in school? You know,
Speaker 1: when you were testing? What was it? I said, he
Speaker 1: was a complete snob. He basically insulted me every time
Speaker 1: he ever interacted with me. They called me a micro brain.
Speaker 1: And you know, he was a super insultant because he
Speaker 1: was tied into their collective AI brain, so he was,
Speaker 1: you know, smart, and he was a total snob. And
Speaker 1: I think about it, and most of the ets I
Speaker 1: met were the same way, And then I equate it
Speaker 1: to this, like you would go, let's imagine that you're
Speaker 1: on a what is it, the Red Cross, and you're
Speaker 1: going to help and they contact a tribe in South
Speaker 1: America of people that never had contact, and now you
Speaker 1: can go down there and hang out with them and
Speaker 1: you learn their language. Would you condescend when you say, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we have water, we have hot water for that. No, no,
Speaker 1: we don't do this bacteria. You'd be super condescending to
Speaker 1: their way of life, because you would think that our
Speaker 1: technology makes you smarter, and the et is the same
Speaker 1: way with us, do you the same relationship? Most people
Speaker 1: have mastered their environment with what they've got, but they
Speaker 1: don't have the benefit of the science of the whole
Speaker 1: globe working at it. It's it's the same man, They're
Speaker 1: gonna be snobs stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think what you said though prior to that,
Speaker 2: people are people like that. I don't think it's fair
Speaker 2: to use it as a blanket statement for everyone because,
Speaker 2: like you stand that every rich person or wealthy yeah, immoral,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, like I was.
Speaker 1: Young, so and what I'm saying is I found out
Speaker 1: that there was a stark contrast that really people of
Speaker 1: wealth that grew up in a different economical status of
Speaker 1: me were just people. Yeah, they were, They were a
Speaker 1: lot of them are not happy. No.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that perspective because it is I mean, I
Speaker 2: can totally see where that could be the case for
Speaker 2: a number of groups out there, especially the ones that
Speaker 2: have been working with the dark the deep state, you know,
Speaker 2: and aligning with against humanity, not with me, against humanity.
Speaker 2: But so I understand that you you know, your research
Speaker 2: has your your time in the programs researching just that
Speaker 2: trying to prove your testimony led you on this remote
Speaker 2: viewing path. And We've talked about this on previous episodes,
Speaker 2: but I'm wondering, you know, you guys do like weekly
Speaker 2: meetups and stopping. You have all these targets. How many
Speaker 2: targets would you say have you done off world? Have
Speaker 2: you done any off world targets and gotten any real
Speaker 2: results from that?
Speaker 1: Dude? We did one last week for the horse on series.
Speaker 1: I said, I wanted to know what it looked like
Speaker 1: now the hangar bait, the horses for the hanger bait.
Speaker 1: So I targeted that with the remote viewers and they
Speaker 1: explained it. It was like they came back with I
Speaker 1: was almost I got choked talking about crying too much,
Speaker 1: but it choked me up.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: And when when the first remote viewer was on target,
Speaker 1: when I opened up the data and the first remote
Speaker 1: viewer was on target and described the hall way, the
Speaker 1: hull and there was grass. They added grass, they added
Speaker 1: like an astro turf, like multiple viewers had the structure
Speaker 1: and the steps with the marble, with the spinning doors,
Speaker 1: you know, representative things of the spinning doors, but with
Speaker 1: a grass element. So they ad they added grass on series.
Speaker 1: As far as I as far as my remote viewings look,
Speaker 1: and I had I don't know, seven or eight viewings
Speaker 1: got turned in on that target. But we don't do
Speaker 1: space too much because it's unconfirmable. So in order to
Speaker 1: teach people to remote view, you want them to confirm
Speaker 1: it that they got it right for that for the
Speaker 1: the adda boy, you know, the confidence of saying, oh shit,
Speaker 1: I got it, and that really builds that ability. The
Speaker 1: belief in the ability to remote view is the most
Speaker 1: important aspect to remote view. You have to believe it,
Speaker 1: and you have to believe it unconsciously, so it takes
Speaker 1: many times of doing it to get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's a good point because I was just
Speaker 2: more curious, like if you were to give somebody a
Speaker 2: blind target of a planetary body or just any anything
Speaker 2: in space, what they would come up with and you
Speaker 2: could start to you know, formulate theories about you know,
Speaker 2: what's happening here and it has this been colonized or that.
Speaker 1: The trick is with that because you remember three everybody
Speaker 1: and their brother was remote viewing that we remote viewed it.
Speaker 1: The trick with remote viewing, an unconfirmable target is to
Speaker 1: have many people do it. So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: remote view what's going on at the at Michigan Stadium
Speaker 1: and people go, I see a structure, I see some grass,
Speaker 1: and there's a table with a fruit basket. And then
Speaker 1: the next person goes, I see this like a locker room,
Speaker 1: and but you come out this hallway and there's this
Speaker 1: table with a fruit basket. And then I see a
Speaker 1: parking lot and there's a table the fruit basket. So
Speaker 1: the fruit basket's real. In other words, like when you
Speaker 1: get big time overlapping data over and over again on
Speaker 1: a target that you don't know you can't go there,
Speaker 1: then we give that. We give that heavy.
Speaker 2: Weight, right right, So I guess take us back. Now,
Speaker 2: you know you've had something, You've wrote down, some notes
Speaker 2: of things you wanted to talk about. So maybe you could,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of bring us through your journey of
Speaker 2: you know, researching, remote viewing and developing a build. Now
Speaker 2: you teach it, and I mean you can be as
Speaker 2: brief as you like, but it's just something I know,
Speaker 2: this is where your heart and soul has moved to
Speaker 2: because you know this is for one, I guess I
Speaker 2: from what I've understood, and I've heard other people say,
Speaker 2: this remote viewing is the prime ability that the CIA targets.
Speaker 2: If you can remote view, they're interested in those people
Speaker 2: for the programs. So obviously that's what you dug up.
Speaker 2: When you start looking into programs. You found this remote
Speaker 2: viewing research. So I guess, yeah, this fill in those blanks.
Speaker 1: I really dug it up after you and I went
Speaker 1: to nyalkurrent Tyler, so I got membered so before that
Speaker 1: when I thought back of Nualkurr, and I remembered suffering,
Speaker 1: like going through that, Like I didn't really remember the
Speaker 1: remote viewing. I remembered what was painful when I was there.
Speaker 1: When people in my book, I didn't talk about remote
Speaker 1: viewing in serious Colony Cavalier because the memories I had
Speaker 1: were just being tortured there and going through this program
Speaker 1: and going through the out of body stuff. Well, when
Speaker 1: we went there and I could feel it and smell
Speaker 1: it and kind of see it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: it was the same humidity. Even I started to remember
Speaker 1: the times that I wasn't being hurt, the conversations. I
Speaker 1: stood there and I was like it jogged memories and
Speaker 1: it was like remote viewing, and I remembered how well
Speaker 1: all the training I got on how to remote you there.
Speaker 1: And then I went home and started looking it up
Speaker 1: and connecting the dots and I found all the paper
Speaker 1: trail behind it, and so that's and then I already
Speaker 1: had Tier three in the Patreon. So I said, let's
Speaker 1: try remote viewing you guys. And uh, it was a blast.
Speaker 1: It's just fun for people to go through the meditation
Speaker 1: and the you know, it's a formula, it's a process,
Speaker 1: and it just turned out to be fun. When when
Speaker 1: everybody submits their dead and I go, oh, look it's
Speaker 1: the Eiffel Tower. You got it, everybody's like stoked, you know,
Speaker 1: we're cheering. And then so I started the remote viewing
Speaker 1: groups and went from there and learned more and more,
Speaker 1: and we got into blocking, which I think I ticked
Speaker 1: off a lot of people because I remember Daniel Curtain
Speaker 1: was about countermeasures, and so I had the remote viewing
Speaker 1: groups do experiment. We tried four or five different experiments
Speaker 1: where we got it to work and we were able
Speaker 1: to block a remote viewing, which a lot of remote views.
Speaker 1: This was a scup. This was a hubbub in the
Speaker 1: disclosure community between some whistleblowers saying that they could be
Speaker 1: they had remote viewing shields, and other famous remote viewing
Speaker 1: teams saying no, you can't block remote viewing. There's no shield.
Speaker 1: And then so I came out with that protocol, and
Speaker 1: then I published it in my book Beyond Site kind
Speaker 1: of quickly I've put you know, looking back, maybe I
Speaker 1: should have kept it a secret now that I'm doing forecasting.
Speaker 1: But it progressed the science of it, progressed in the research,
Speaker 1: and I'm still looking at the science of it in
Speaker 1: remote viewing. I'll tell you this right now. Remote viewing
Speaker 1: and parapsychology and psycho energetics, all of it is going.
Speaker 1: You're gonna and if you study it and stay on it,
Speaker 1: if you if you grab the tiger by the tail
Speaker 1: and let it pull you, you're going into dreams. You're
Speaker 1: going to go into lucid dreaming. Eventually it all ends there.
Speaker 1: I think that lucid dreaming, well, I think that there's
Speaker 1: a I call it the C field. The universe is
Speaker 1: made up of several several fields. We used to call
Speaker 1: it to ether. Unified field theory doesn't work So there's
Speaker 1: an electromagnetic field that does electricity and light and magnetism,
Speaker 1: and then there's another field in a quark field and
Speaker 1: a muon field, and we have all these fields the
Speaker 1: different different modes of reality need. So an electron is
Speaker 1: moving through a field and it pushes the field sideways,
Speaker 1: and that's magnetism. There is no magneton. It isn't a particle.
Speaker 1: It's the field being perturbed by the electrons going through it.
Speaker 1: That's magnetism. And so I started looking at it and
Speaker 1: I went, wait a minute. With our remote viewing, so
Speaker 1: we we've done remote action, so we can do remote
Speaker 1: action too. We like, I'm way down the road at that,
Speaker 1: and I don't like to talk about how it goes
Speaker 1: down publicly or whatever because for many reasons. But we
Speaker 1: can do remote action. We can do remote influencing without
Speaker 1: the dream world. So remotive when it works way better
Speaker 1: when you're asleep, because a dreaming mind is an undefended mind,
Speaker 1: an on the conscious mind. When you're awake, you're defended.
Speaker 1: So hey, buy this, buy this watch. By this watch,
Speaker 1: I'll give it for one hundred bucks, and you go, man,
Speaker 1: that's a piece of Louis. But in the dream, it's
Speaker 1: your grandma saying you need to buy this watch, and
Speaker 1: you go, I think I'll get it then, right, Consciousness
Speaker 1: is probably like a field. That's what I'm That's what
Speaker 1: I'm researching right now. I'm actually doing doing experiments on
Speaker 1: it to see if consciousness is a field that works
Speaker 1: the same way that like electrons go by and push
Speaker 1: the field sideways, and we have magnetism that consciousness moves
Speaker 1: through the field for thought and it perturbs the field,
Speaker 1: and that's how we get manifestations and remote viewings. Like
Speaker 1: that's how you know that it's a field. I was
Speaker 1: postulating that it was like a sandwich and one piece
Speaker 1: of bread was our universe, and then there's a membrane
Speaker 1: and then another universe. But now I'm starting to look
Speaker 1: at it like their layers. It's more like a salad,
Speaker 1: more like a salad.
Speaker 2: Like a I like a tossed salad because of all
Speaker 2: the time to travel, manipulation.
Speaker 1: And it's a salad that exists that you haven't eaten yet.
Speaker 1: You took a bite, but you haven't eve really eaten
Speaker 1: it yet. Well. The other thing that I find when
Speaker 1: we look at the sea field is that it's slightly
Speaker 1: offset in time, so that an event that happens in
Speaker 1: a subconscious happens a few days later in the conscious,
Speaker 1: in the real, in the reality and the rest of
Speaker 1: the field. So there's a there's a delay, but it's
Speaker 1: basically access through the dreaming mind. And I think that
Speaker 1: you're always dreaming. There's a part of your mind that
Speaker 1: is dreaming right now, even though you're awake, part of
Speaker 1: you is always dreaming. And when you go to sleep,
Speaker 1: the part of you that's awake right now shuts off
Speaker 1: and you become aware of the dream because it's really
Speaker 1: only a tether into conscious the conscious field field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the I feel like I'm I feel like I'm a
Speaker 1: nerd out and I'm sorry, right, I mean, that's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that.
Speaker 2: There was an Area fifty one, anonymous whistleblower in two
Speaker 2: thousand and eight. We put part of his testimony in
Speaker 2: our documentary, but the other part we didn't put in there.
Speaker 2: He's talking about the shadow government or the private sector
Speaker 2: being well aware of other dimensions and how to view
Speaker 2: other dimensions, and he described it exactly. He said, there
Speaker 2: imagine blankets stepped stacked on top of each other, and
Speaker 2: he said, in each dimension, the planets are all there,
Speaker 2: like the solar it's all there, but each planet takes
Speaker 2: on a different form. And he said Jupiter in a
Speaker 2: higher dimension is actually solid and it's inhabited and you
Speaker 2: know all that stuff. So I think you're onto something
Speaker 2: with that. And going back to the defense against remote viewing,
Speaker 2: William Tompkins also talked about that in one of his
Speaker 2: old interviews. Yeah you can find it. Yeah, he said
Speaker 2: that because he was a remote viewer, and he said
Speaker 2: that he realized that these bases that they were trying
Speaker 2: to remote view there was like a psychic prote They
Speaker 2: had somebody blocking them for certain people from penetrating those
Speaker 2: facilities and that. So you didn't blow a whistle on that.
Speaker 2: Actually it was William Tompkins and he and he did
Speaker 2: take some heat for what he released. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's inevitable that people are gonna come to that conclusion
Speaker 2: that they start playing around with it.
Speaker 1: That's good to know. It don't feel so bad, no, Yeah, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the blocking is real. There are many and then we
Speaker 1: find out that it's more of a cat and mouse game.
Speaker 1: It's not like you just put up a shield and
Speaker 1: you're done. It's you put up a shield and they
Speaker 1: figure out a way around it. It's an arms race,
Speaker 1: you know, mental and mentality, and ultimately the creativity of
Speaker 1: the viewer wins. The one that's more creative wins. So
Speaker 1: if you have a viewer and a blocker, the creativity
Speaker 1: of the you're limited in performance by the amount of
Speaker 1: creativity you have. So some people are very creative, some
Speaker 1: people are not. And we look at you know, I
Speaker 1: don't everybody can remote view. Everybody can remote you and
Speaker 1: you it's like muscles, so you can, you can get
Speaker 1: strong and be good at it. But there are certain
Speaker 1: personality types that are already that come kind of predisposed,
Speaker 1: the same way we have people that already have big muscles.
Speaker 1: They just got to get a shape, you know, some
Speaker 1: people like like Arnold Schwarzenegger. You know, I'll never get
Speaker 1: as big as Arnold if I work out all day long,
Speaker 1: eight hours a day, from if I started when I
Speaker 1: was fifteen, don't know, I would never get that big.
Speaker 1: I just don't have that construction of my personality. And
Speaker 1: remote viewing works kind of like that too, you know.
Speaker 1: I think I think women are pre I think the
Speaker 1: female gift is because of maternal instincts. They're predisposed to
Speaker 1: be to be aware of the seafield. And you know,
Speaker 1: for because your baby's crying in the other room, the
Speaker 1: mom knows it. She's always hyper alert and always hyper listening,
Speaker 1: whereas you know, the male men didn't need that. And
Speaker 1: I feel bad every time I talk about general stuff
Speaker 1: like all rich people or girls or boys that I
Speaker 1: always it gets used against me later. I mean the examples.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know, everybody's going to perceive anything however
Speaker 2: they want, you know, so it's not like we have
Speaker 2: to understand that happens to us too. We speak in
Speaker 2: blanket statements a lot, and and people will comment, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, that's not I'm I'm a boomer and I'm
Speaker 2: not like that or whatever it is. You know, so
Speaker 2: you know, you gotta be careful sometimes, and we I
Speaker 2: think the audience understands that. You know, it's it's not everybody,
Speaker 2: but in general, this is kind of how it works
Speaker 2: in certain areas.
Speaker 1: You asked me about another project, so this is also
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it if you just give me one
Speaker 1: minute here. Yeah, and I want to say this. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people watch this show our other experiences.
Speaker 1: I think that's what draws people to our audience. So
Speaker 1: most of the people that tune into me have had
Speaker 1: something weird happen in their life, so they know it's real.
Speaker 1: I want to say to other SSP experiencers and anybody
Speaker 1: that's working, and there's a lot of them, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue about your testimony, but I
Speaker 1: would say this, if you were in the SSP and
Speaker 1: you have a fair amount of memories, try to feel
Speaker 1: the product. Try to undo something because you saw a
Speaker 1: lifestyle that is far more advanced, and time's going. It's
Speaker 1: moving fast with AI right now, like our day to
Speaker 1: day technology is moving super duper fast. So try to
Speaker 1: get your head in that work with an AI or
Speaker 1: something and build something that you remember from up there.
Speaker 1: Please God, like everybody do this. I'm working on the
Speaker 1: adaptive media learning platform that I experienced when I was
Speaker 1: on Mars, and we're far down the road, like it's
Speaker 1: been three years in development. It's I've got the media
Speaker 1: generation part of it pretty much licked. What I found
Speaker 1: was that in the audio development. I spawned it off
Speaker 1: into a whole other company and it's super powerful and
Speaker 1: that's what the bineurals. I have a remote viewing binural.
Speaker 1: That was the first thing I ever made when I learned.
Speaker 1: They made us mars imagine a gray et, plugged me
Speaker 1: into a computer for my class, and I was going
Speaker 1: to watch an AI developed media that was going to
Speaker 1: give me questions in lessons, and questions that adapted to
Speaker 1: how well I learned it. So I didn't just say, like,
Speaker 1: you know this, this is this? What is what? Now?
Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? A B or C.
Speaker 1: It would know that I got it wrong, and then
Speaker 1: it would come back and adapt. It was adaptive. But
Speaker 1: they made me listen to a binural tone for six
Speaker 1: minutes at the beginning of each day, like a twenty
Speaker 1: hurtz binural, and I always remembered that, and they said
Speaker 1: it helps you retrain the information a lot better. So
Speaker 1: I've always built my own learning software with the intention
Speaker 1: that I'm going to have a binural at the beginning
Speaker 1: for everybody. You know, because it HEDI sync. It does
Speaker 1: greatly improve brain f performance, and they've done I've been
Speaker 1: reading a study about a guy that cut the hemispheres
Speaker 1: on an epileptic patient and it ended up being two
Speaker 1: different people. Oh wow on one side, Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: go read that Verman, it's crazy. So one hemisphere behaved
Speaker 1: like a completely different person and was unaware, like the
Speaker 1: hemisphere that didn't have verbage couldn't read letters, who couldn't
Speaker 1: read so it behaved like a different person, and it
Speaker 1: would they would lie to try to act like they
Speaker 1: were the same person. So it's crazy. So HEMI sink.
Speaker 1: Just think about that coming together. But the audio stuff
Speaker 1: that I've built is super duper powerful. And what I've
Speaker 1: done is we put subliminals in it, and just that
Speaker 1: alone is amazing. If you put a subliminal this, you
Speaker 1: think about most manifestation techniques or your self talk, like
Speaker 1: getting rid of negative words and dwelling on positive terms
Speaker 1: like you, you're healthy, You're perfectly healthy, you have a
Speaker 1: long life ahead of you. I could just put that
Speaker 1: subliminally in what you listen to all day and your
Speaker 1: health will improve. And then I coupled it with harmonics,
Speaker 1: the same as Dan Winter's Flame in Mind I think
Speaker 1: is his binural app but used his science of it,
Speaker 1: of the phase conjugate pumpway. The same math of the
Speaker 1: harmonics going down to the plank distance by the golden ratio,
Speaker 1: and those are super powerful. So just the binurals are
Speaker 1: super powerful. But I put phase canceling military grade subliminals
Speaker 1: that are all positive, and on the website on Scion,
Speaker 1: all the subliminals are available for you to go read.
Speaker 1: So they don't work as good if you read them.
Speaker 1: So if you buy one of the products, the Healer,
Speaker 1: for instance, and you go and read the subliminal thing,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work as good. It's a cat, it's a
Speaker 1: chicken and egg. But you can have somebody read it
Speaker 1: for you because I don't put anything in there that's questionable.
Speaker 1: There's no secret like make sure you subscribe. There's none
Speaker 1: of that shit. And I made it fully transparent, which
Speaker 1: we don't get that. We don't get that luxury from
Speaker 1: the people that are giving us subliminals for the whole
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Right, So reality for reality because there's a moral there's
Speaker 4: a real moral question when you can subliminally program people,
Speaker 4: when you have the technology to subliminate, say, I can
Speaker 4: put this under my Instagram reel, and you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, go sign up and.
Speaker 1: Do all this stuff like I'm the sexiest guy ever.
Speaker 1: You know, whatever you want to put in there, but
Speaker 1: there's a moral there's a real moral slippery slope. And
Speaker 1: the way I got around that was in the fact
Speaker 1: on Psion we put all every subliminal script always is
Speaker 1: fully available to the public. But that's just the audio
Speaker 1: part of that, and it's adaptive. We have an app
Speaker 1: that's coming out that is going to be adaptive. It'll
Speaker 1: construct the bineural and the subliminals and the music for
Speaker 1: what you put in what you want, and it'll learn
Speaker 1: your schedule and everything. We have an app. It'll be
Speaker 1: we're hoping to have the first version by the end
Speaker 1: of the month. Wow, it's going to be gnarly the app.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So what I gathered from that is you have one
Speaker 2: of your frequencies has a subliminal overlay of telling you
Speaker 2: that you will never be like Ronald Swartzenegger.
Speaker 1: How do you know.
Speaker 2: I'll never be like it? You can't see.
Speaker 1: It's you're already like art of Schwartzenegger. Now you can
Speaker 1: just worry about Yeah, you can move on. You're already right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: there is a self esteem one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's that's super interesting. And like, I think
Speaker 2: everything that you're moving into is has already been accomplished,
Speaker 2: probably another planets, and these breakaway civilizations are like you
Speaker 2: said in previous interviews, even the Internet was tested on
Speaker 2: other planets right before they knew it was going to
Speaker 2: work here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not the first. They know we're on a schedule.
Speaker 1: This whole world is on a schedule. They know exactly
Speaker 1: the people, the ets that are up there that are
Speaker 1: you know, they know exactly where we're at on the line.
Speaker 1: They know we're gonna we have a we have a trajectory,
Speaker 1: and there's one of five trajectories that we're going to hit,
Speaker 1: and they know exactly what's going on. They know what
Speaker 1: happens when the car got invented or you know, the
Speaker 1: cotton gin or whatever happened. They know when technology happens,
Speaker 1: what happens because of it, and they study I'm sure
Speaker 1: they study it. And when you think about it, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of this out in real time as we're speaking,
Speaker 1: because you guys are you know, birds of a feather
Speaker 1: kind of thing. When we look at the conscious field,
Speaker 1: their theory, consciousness as a field a fundamental field of
Speaker 1: the universe that explains a lot of the et stuff,
Speaker 1: like why they do other tests on us for consciousness.
Speaker 1: They how Bob Lazara says, we're containers of the sea field,
Speaker 1: so we're continuing, know like they're they're the ets seem
Speaker 1: to be more interested in consciousness experiments than nuclear physics
Speaker 1: or anything else because they've solved all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: consciousness might be you know, where it's at, and probably
Speaker 1: the most important field to study.
Speaker 2: Well was it that quantum physicist after so many years
Speaker 2: of research, he was trying to use mathematics to explain consciousness,
Speaker 2: and he realized without consciousness, there can be no mathematics.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, it was That's what his
Speaker 2: ultimate conclusion is. Everything is born from the consciousness field
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1: Well, it opens the door to a new way of
Speaker 1: thinking about a lot of things. And I always tell
Speaker 1: people the ancient people didn't know about aerodynamics, but they
Speaker 1: could watch birds fly, so they knew it was possible. So,
Speaker 1: you know, Aristotle sat and watched the bugs and the
Speaker 1: birds fly by, so they knew it was possible, that
Speaker 1: flight was possible, that there was something going on with
Speaker 1: that and you could breathe there. But they just didn't
Speaker 1: understand it beyond that, and that's kind of where we're
Speaker 1: at with consciousness now when we do remote viewing the
Speaker 1: psychic stuff. You know, people are psychic and we we've
Speaker 1: been taught, and honestly, there's been a pushback. I uncovered
Speaker 1: documents I posted them maybe last year on social media
Speaker 1: that there was a real funded effort by the CIA
Speaker 1: to get rid of parapsychology studies on American campuses. They
Speaker 1: hired kids to demonstrate against parapsychology and say it was foolish.
Speaker 1: And these professors that were offering these courses into psychic
Speaker 1: phenomenon canceled all of them. So there was a time when,
Speaker 1: like you know, a dozen colleges across America had courses,
Speaker 1: legit courses you could take in parapsychology, and the CIA
Speaker 1: ran a smear campaign on the campuses with people protesting
Speaker 1: and got rid of it all. And this was in
Speaker 1: the seventies, the late sixties and early seventies, and there's
Speaker 1: documents about it. You can go to the Freedom Information
Speaker 1: Act and ask it. And so it's been hidden from us,
Speaker 1: you know, on purpose. They really have hidden it, and
Speaker 1: it's a major part. We see it, We see the birdfly,
Speaker 1: we could do it when you remote and you know
Speaker 1: somebody's there back and somebody's looking back at me, so
Speaker 1: we can do experiments. I've done tons of experiments with
Speaker 1: remote viewing where I do different variables and I take
Speaker 1: a you know, seasoned, heavyweight remote viewer and then a
Speaker 1: new one and then put them with a targeter and
Speaker 1: then change the variables. We did Yosemite where I did
Speaker 1: the retreat and we went and sat at the bottom
Speaker 1: of yo somebody falls in a high ion negative ion environment.
Speaker 1: It was all they killed it. Then you know, you
Speaker 1: can change the environment. Radio frequencies matter for remote viewing.
Speaker 1: And before I nerd out and get too far into that,
Speaker 1: all of it is based on information that I found
Speaker 1: looking for looking for proof of being an inno current
Speaker 1: when I was ten years old, when I was also
Speaker 1: in Willis, Michigan, when I was ten years old, my
Speaker 1: witness is there. You know, how could I How could
Speaker 1: I know that stuff? If the twenty and back thing
Speaker 1: wasn't real? And it all goes that back to that,
Speaker 1: And it's just so happens that the technology that I
Speaker 1: remember has turned into the audio program, the learning program,
Speaker 1: and the remote viewing programs and which are now forecasting programs,
Speaker 1: and you know, so that's where that's where I put
Speaker 1: all my work these days. I'm not out there chasing,
Speaker 1: and I'll be frank. I want to bring up we're
Speaker 1: going to reach a new subject right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be frank and rude about it. The SSP community has
Speaker 1: its head and its ass and it's not worth It's
Speaker 1: not worth chasing for the fight of it all. Everybody's
Speaker 1: egos got in the way and everybody's fighting over No,
Speaker 1: my aliens are better than near aliens. Who gives a
Speaker 1: shit what you know? What I mean, nobody's trying to
Speaker 1: offer proof, but everybody's trying to They're not real. I'm real,
Speaker 1: and we got all this ego competition and these fakes
Speaker 1: people that are fakes, that are Discivot's all by design.
Speaker 1: Operation Oblivion, I believe is absolutely real. Yea, And so
Speaker 1: I've stepped away from it. You know, I found myself
Speaker 1: in the line of fire, and I'm friends with all
Speaker 1: of you guys, and I'm friends with you guys people
Speaker 1: that you don't like. And there's your friends with people
Speaker 1: that I got into fights with that that I'm like, hey, fine,
Speaker 1: you know, go your own way, and I don't wish
Speaker 1: that on anybody. It's not worth it. It's not worth
Speaker 1: fighting over. We've all presented our information and the SSP
Speaker 1: community was made a laughing stock with all the infighting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and intentionally, I one hundred percent agree with Project Oblivion.
Speaker 2: And basically what that is is for people who don't know,
Speaker 2: it's an orchestrated effort to put people against each other subliminately,
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, and overtly too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: lots of ways, but using very sophisticated technologies. I'll say that,
Speaker 2: and I do think it worked. And you know, instead
Speaker 2: of uniting and you know, fighting for the cause, everyone's
Speaker 2: fighting each other. And it's like this the same old
Speaker 2: playbook they've been using forever, but it's just adapted for
Speaker 2: this specific community, and you know, then it gets made
Speaker 2: a mockery of. And that's why we made the documentary
Speaker 2: and that's why we went back to the basics and
Speaker 2: made it make sense and focused on people in the military,
Speaker 2: because you know, a skeptic is more likely to listen
Speaker 2: to somebody and that had military time than just some
Speaker 2: everyday person off the street. Right, So it's just like,
Speaker 2: just like why you listen to the doctor and the
Speaker 2: white lab coat like it's psychologically there's something to that.
Speaker 2: And whether or not it's you know, it's a good
Speaker 2: thing or a bad thing, it works, and so it's
Speaker 2: important that we build a case and you know, show
Speaker 2: some evidence. I'm like, listen, this is the stuff that
Speaker 2: you can chase on the ground without even getting off
Speaker 2: planet and give people rabbit holes to go down and
Speaker 2: they can go research some of these military bases that
Speaker 2: people claim to have been at, and then some of
Speaker 2: the you know, companies they work for and stuff, and
Speaker 2: then you follow, if you're a good researcher, you can
Speaker 2: start to connect some dots and see how it's all
Speaker 2: tied together straight into the aospace, you know, corporations and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So it's there, but it's important that
Speaker 2: we build that foundation and just get it out to
Speaker 2: the world because this little community right like, it's been
Speaker 2: divided amongst itself and it's just not it's not healthy.
Speaker 2: It's toxic and from the outside looking in, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's almost laughable sometimes and we know it's real sore.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: This is an effort to make people take it seriously again.
Speaker 2: And I think you know, that's kind of where we're
Speaker 2: that's our mission with this all is we know it's real,
Speaker 2: and there's a way to deliver this without without pushing
Speaker 2: people away.
Speaker 1: Amen. I think that a lot of the people that
Speaker 1: saw it from the beginning ten years ago, fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, whenever we started learning about the Secrets
Speaker 1: based program, people that watched it ever since, the trajectory
Speaker 1: of it and the way where it's turned to now
Speaker 1: a lot of injected with a lot of nonsense. You know,
Speaker 1: understand the level of you know, how it got pulled apart,
Speaker 1: but people that just show up and frankly, there's more
Speaker 1: people that don't know that discover it all the time
Speaker 1: that are like they come in now mids kind of
Speaker 1: mid stream, and there's not a good information source. There's
Speaker 1: not a there's not a consistency of information. And I'm
Speaker 1: not calling anybody faults. I'm just saying we've lost that consistency.
Speaker 1: So it looks it's just overwhelming. Wait what twenty years
Speaker 1: Wait wait a minute, wait you were living and where?
Speaker 1: And so a lot of people are just confused and
Speaker 1: then on to boot there is false information, you know,
Speaker 1: sprinkled in front of everybody, and I think it looks
Speaker 1: like false information might take over completely.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean, that's what gets there's an
Speaker 2: effort on the back end to promote that stuff, just
Speaker 2: like Bob Bazaar said, and the files he was shown,
Speaker 2: like he was even told that there's this information in
Speaker 2: this in these classified documents that you're reading. So he
Speaker 2: had to determine what was real or what was not
Speaker 2: just from what he was given on the inside.
Speaker 3: Yeah, real quick on that. Yeah, he knew there was
Speaker 3: dis info sprinkled in. And many many insiders have said this,
Speaker 3: and there's multiple reasons they do that, and what Bob
Speaker 3: said a really good point. One of them is that
Speaker 3: they'll put in some dis info specific to you, so
Speaker 3: they know if you ever speak or I or if
Speaker 3: this information ever gets out somebody's talking about it, they
Speaker 3: know it came from you, right and they can trace
Speaker 3: it back. So they that's a huge reason they do that.
Speaker 3: And then also they want they want to mudy the waters.
Speaker 1: They want it, they want.
Speaker 3: It's it's almost more about it's it's not just about
Speaker 3: getting people to believe the wrong things. I mean, that
Speaker 3: is definitely a thing as well, but it's it's almost
Speaker 3: more about getting people so confused and not knowing what
Speaker 3: to believe that you just don't believe anything. You don't
Speaker 3: you don't believe anything. You just throw it all out
Speaker 3: till the baby out the bath water, right, Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: it becomes unpalatable, that's right. And that's kind of where
Speaker 3: what we've seen happen one hundred Yeah, we've seen that
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, all the more reason for us to keep going.
Speaker 2: And that's true, and yeah, do it, And I see
Speaker 2: it as a responsibility at this point is you know,
Speaker 2: there's just too much to ignore, and if people aren't
Speaker 2: out there putting connecting those dots and putting things together,
Speaker 2: like our documentary or whatever it is, it's still work
Speaker 2: you're doing, and then then people will get lost. And
Speaker 2: that's you know, that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: Are you going to make another documentary? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably, I mean there's it's a monumental effort in a
Speaker 2: lot of time and hours, money and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: But I don't know which specific direction I would go
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, it would probably be a follow up
Speaker 2: to obviously the last one. But I've tossed a few
Speaker 2: ideas around. But did you have a suggestion. Is that
Speaker 2: why you asked?
Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm dying begging for the sequel. Whether I'm
Speaker 1: in it or not, it doesn't matter. I'd love to
Speaker 1: see you guys do it like you're onto something. You
Speaker 1: have a certain style about the way you do stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's it's unique and it's genuine. It's like you.
Speaker 1: You should crank these out, man, I mean right, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I would love to do this sequel another one, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's two ways we can go with it.
Speaker 2: I've thought about this. So we could continue and take
Speaker 2: the testimonies even further and get deeper into the testimonies,
Speaker 2: or essentially go backwards and do a whole history of
Speaker 2: like the Secret Space Program really like the German part
Speaker 2: of it and the Navy Spice, you know, really really
Speaker 2: show people where this all came from.
Speaker 3: And I think the technology, how the technolo, how we
Speaker 3: got this technology, and how it got developed out because
Speaker 3: that's what a lot of people have a hard time
Speaker 3: believing is they just don't They're like that, well, we
Speaker 3: don't have that advanced technology. That's ridiculous, you know, that's
Speaker 3: that's sci fi.
Speaker 1: A lot of it.
Speaker 3: We kind of do we do, and it's easy to prove,
Speaker 3: like you said, yeah, so you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys know Jackie Kenner, who is my editor. I
Speaker 1: talked to her once in a great while, and I
Speaker 1: forget what I was doing when we were doing the
Speaker 1: Scion website. I said, hey, check, let me know what
Speaker 1: you think of this, because she's got a lot of
Speaker 1: marketing experience. She said, I'm not even going to look
Speaker 1: at it. I could tell you to make it simpler.
Speaker 1: I was like, what she said, twenty everything you do
Speaker 1: is too complicated, and so I kind of moped around
Speaker 1: for like three four days. I was like, no, I'm
Speaker 1: not complicated. And I started realizing I even used in
Speaker 1: my chat GBT prompt or my AI prompts because I
Speaker 1: use grock too. She had tell it to me like
Speaker 1: I'm twelve years old and you know, simplifying it. And
Speaker 1: I think, like, like I said, at some point, we're
Speaker 1: preaching to the choir when we're talking to people that
Speaker 1: are watching today. But there's a few billion people that
Speaker 1: have no idea what we're talking about, and it's those
Speaker 1: that we need to make our media for, you know,
Speaker 1: like a document like you said, going backwards and you know,
Speaker 1: tell it to them like they're twelve years old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: make it the prequel to the make a prequel to
Speaker 1: Beyond the Green Door.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah. I like that idea, and I think
Speaker 2: like reaching the new market is reaching the world. And
Speaker 2: the reason I wanted to do that and get it
Speaker 2: on the streaming platforms are we wanted to do that
Speaker 2: is because you look at ethology now and disclosure on
Speaker 2: x X is like the town square of the world,
Speaker 2: Like Elon says, that's very true. Like everything, Like you
Speaker 2: want the news, you go there and or see what's happening,
Speaker 2: what people are talking about, where is the conversation today,
Speaker 2: And if you can inject this subject seriously into that
Speaker 2: town square, then I think you're onto something and if
Speaker 2: you're going to gain some traction. And so I'm you know,
Speaker 2: we it's great what we've built and everybody that helped
Speaker 2: us get where we are, but it's time to like
Speaker 2: start thinking about, Okay, how is this how are we
Speaker 2: going to get this out to the world. Now, That's
Speaker 2: the way I see it. So I love the fact
Speaker 2: that you know, making content or media, as you say,
Speaker 2: to reach the skeptics and simplifying it that it's very true.
Speaker 2: And it's funny about Jackie too. Whenever I was writing
Speaker 2: my books, she was helping me with some stuff and
Speaker 2: she said, all right, now I want you to put
Speaker 2: your whole PDF into chat GPT and then ask it,
Speaker 2: be brutally honest, tell me why this book sucks. And
Speaker 2: that's what I did the chat GPT and then it
Speaker 2: breaks down your book and then tells you what could
Speaker 2: be better about it, how you can read, read whatever
Speaker 2: we work it. And it worked though. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't want to see your book criticized before it's
Speaker 2: even out, But it's AI for one so few and
Speaker 2: then two and then two. It really helped me because
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, there's actually some good points here if
Speaker 2: I just tweaked out slightly. So you know, AI has
Speaker 2: its advantages as far as that goes, but just interesting
Speaker 2: to use it in that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not anti AI. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the and I don't know where you guys are. I
Speaker 1: haven't watched your show lately. I don't know where you're
Speaker 1: at with DAT. It's I think a lot of the
Speaker 1: negative push on data centers is the race, the weapons race,
Speaker 1: imagine if the Manhattan Project was public. Imagine we had
Speaker 1: social media and we were developing the nuclear bomb. You'd
Speaker 1: have all these German memes talking about nuclear power is
Speaker 1: bad for the environment, don't research nuclear power, get them
Speaker 1: out of your town. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Look close, Alimos should be shut down. Like we'd have
Speaker 1: all these other countries that are trying to compete with
Speaker 1: us in the ray arms race, just trying to slow
Speaker 1: it down. I think that's what's going on largely with
Speaker 1: the data centers, because whoever gets there first is going
Speaker 1: to stay there. Whoever gets to the vertical integration of
Speaker 1: agi AI, even if it's in by a few minutes,
Speaker 1: even if the United States gets it at eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: and the unit and the Chinese get at eleven oh five,
Speaker 1: they'll never ever catch us in technology ever again, Like
Speaker 1: it's that big of a deal. And wearing an arms
Speaker 1: race right now that it's not a corporate it looks
Speaker 1: like corporate stuff because it's public because they need public
Speaker 1: information to make it work. We're feeding the AI. It's
Speaker 1: information us, right, And so yeah, I'm not anti AI.
Speaker 1: I think uh, we're gonna have some problems like anything.
Speaker 1: But I think it's here to stay. You know, I
Speaker 1: think AI is a wonderful thing. And I always tell
Speaker 1: the guys if I'm playing a video game, then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have my tuesla about cheat for me and play
Speaker 1: my video game for me. One day kick their ass.
Speaker 1: One day it'll be my I'm gonna hand the controller
Speaker 1: to my tesla about and he's going to kick your ass,
Speaker 1: a little kid, little shit.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a tool, right, it's a tool. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a tool that are bad. Neither it's a tool. It's neutral.
Speaker 3: It's how you use it. And a lot of people
Speaker 3: are worried, understandably, are worried about the mass surveillance and
Speaker 3: control and you know, all this, which is our agenda's
Speaker 3: going on unfortunately, But you know that doesn't make AI bad.
Speaker 3: That's just how they're using the tool, right, So the
Speaker 3: tool needs to be used in a positive way and
Speaker 3: constructive way for humanity rather than to abuse and control
Speaker 3: and manipulate.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think a lot of the surveillance
Speaker 1: fight also is that ship is sailed. The reason they're evan,
Speaker 1: the reason they're using flock cameras is because they don't
Speaker 1: want to pay Apple the fee to access the data
Speaker 1: on your phone, because your phone knows where you're at
Speaker 1: and how fast you're going, and has your identity and
Speaker 1: everything more than a flock camera has. But a flock
Speaker 1: camera is its closed loops thing that they can just
Speaker 1: pay once and it's cheap to run after that. They
Speaker 1: just don't want to pay the big tech. But you're
Speaker 1: you don't have any privacy right now if you have
Speaker 1: a cell phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or if you're or if you're alive, if you're alive, it's.
Speaker 3: Really just the Yeah, you have the illusion of privacy
Speaker 3: or things that you've never really had, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, privacy is rigged.
Speaker 3: Right all right, You're in this matrix, but you're in
Speaker 3: this matrix to change it, you know. So like, but
Speaker 3: you got to understand the matrix you're in.
Speaker 1: We're developing apps. I'm developing the app Pracion. There's a
Speaker 1: remote viewing app, so and I'm thinking, like, how do
Speaker 1: you sell the data? I don't even know how to
Speaker 1: go about that, So I don't even mess with any
Speaker 1: of that, but I'm thinking, how would you even do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Who does that? Right? But it seems to be a
Speaker 1: major economic factor on a lot of apps, like they
Speaker 1: don't care about you paying them a dime because they
Speaker 1: just want your data because it's so valuable it's worth
Speaker 1: gold m hm.
Speaker 2: Right, and yeah, and they have it anyway when you
Speaker 2: even check all the boxes when you buy a new
Speaker 2: phone and say yes, I agree to this, and agree
Speaker 2: to that, and agree to this, and you know, so
Speaker 2: it's there's no way around it.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: But going back to the data centers, like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: so many people are like absolutely just up in arms
Speaker 2: about it, right, But I'm just thinking it of it,
Speaker 2: like I think of everything else in the world. There's
Speaker 2: so much more that we don't understand behind the reasoning
Speaker 2: for them. You know, some people say the locations of
Speaker 2: them are above the underground bases, and they're going to
Speaker 2: be power on the underground bases. Maybe maybe they could
Speaker 2: be used if we just change our perspectives slightly. Maybe
Speaker 2: they could actually be a really good thing in the future,
Speaker 2: if we're going to move into this Star Trek sort
Speaker 2: of future, and they can play integral role in the
Speaker 2: infrastructure as far as where we're going technologically. I mean,
Speaker 2: Elon Musk is talking about building a massive building in Texas.
Speaker 2: It's like I forgot how many miles is going to
Speaker 2: be the biggest building on Earth.
Speaker 1: Two and a half miles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we don't It can all look like a
Speaker 2: bad thing at first, but maybe it doesn't have to be.
Speaker 2: And I don't know enough about it to actually, like,
Speaker 2: I know what we can gather from the surface and
Speaker 2: what they tell us, but that's just the surface cover
Speaker 2: story most likely. And there's a deeper reasoning behind it all,
Speaker 2: and maybe even a dire reason. Maybe there's some sort
Speaker 2: of a war, a strategic war advantage for either side
Speaker 2: for doing this, and and maybe it could help. Maybe
Speaker 2: these data centers could help stop an AI, a negative AI,
Speaker 2: from taking over. Maybe it can be doing that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot of stuff for that. I
Speaker 1: think that when you look at the past behavior of
Speaker 1: the elites, they don't want to pay for stuff. So
Speaker 1: they have their money and they want to spend their
Speaker 1: money to manipulate people to pay for it. So they
Speaker 1: want it's cheaper to have a political campaign to have
Speaker 1: people vote in a data center, for the taxpayers to
Speaker 1: give it a tax break and put it there. They
Speaker 1: want to develop these on our dime basically for the
Speaker 1: big thing. But looking at everything positive and negative. I'm
Speaker 1: also like to get away from the boogeyman around every corner,
Speaker 1: which a lot of people think everything and I lost.
Speaker 1: I've had friends of mine, there were really good friends
Speaker 1: that just they were all like everything was the boogeyman,
Speaker 1: and they just I don't want to talk about it anymore,
Speaker 1: and you just lose them, you know, Like there's a
Speaker 1: point where you have a psychological break when you think
Speaker 1: everything in the world is rigged and it's this evil
Speaker 1: boogeyman around the corner, and my soul is going to
Speaker 1: get snatched by the moon kind of thing.
Speaker 3: You're in alarm mode like all the time twenty four
Speaker 3: to seven to see people like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and life isn't worth living like that.
Speaker 1: It's one thing you do, right, It's But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is the data centers require power, and we talk
Speaker 1: about getting free energy or new forms of power, upgrading
Speaker 1: our power grid. Now there's a reason. Now there's a
Speaker 1: valid reason, and so we've never had the valid reason before.
Speaker 1: They weren't going to build that many factories to make
Speaker 1: that many cars or anything a kind of product, So
Speaker 1: we never had the reason to build out our power
Speaker 1: grid but these data centers do so. At the same
Speaker 1: time a data center happens, it's like they have to
Speaker 1: upgrade your local power grid too, and so this opens
Speaker 1: the door to all kinds of new technologies that are
Speaker 1: down down the road. So, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's some grand plan of benevolent plan, but I think
Speaker 1: it's just the way that nature of you know, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a natural economical evolution, and the need for
Speaker 1: power means that we need more power grid. We started
Speaker 1: the electric cars, did it, you know? Mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me started about California.
Speaker 3: But if we have free energy, free energy tech and
Speaker 3: we've had it for a long time, it's just being hidden,
Speaker 3: when is that going to be you know, because that
Speaker 3: to me, real disclosure is freeing lists. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: unless we have we start using the technologies we've had
Speaker 3: for one hundred years to actually benefit humanity rather than like,
Speaker 3: oh this is this is kept by this hidden group
Speaker 3: and we just keep you and this like Truman Show reality,
Speaker 3: like that have to change at some point, right.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, I'm of the belief that if like I
Speaker 2: don't think we're going to get disclosure like that, like
Speaker 2: they're just going to turn the key over and so
Speaker 2: here's everything that we have that we've been lying to
Speaker 2: you about. The Yeah, they're an infrastructure for one to
Speaker 2: support all that stuff on a mass scale. But two
Speaker 2: it's going to be done. There's an order of operations,
Speaker 2: right that has it has to make sense to the
Speaker 2: average person who hasn't been following along to this, you know,
Speaker 2: shadow government narrative the whole time, and they have to
Speaker 2: it needs to make sense on how we got there.
Speaker 2: And it's much easier for them because now they don't
Speaker 2: have to come out and say, yeah, we've been lying,
Speaker 2: you know. They can say, oh, look what we're developing,
Speaker 2: Look what our research has where it has taken us,
Speaker 2: you know, and it's going to be painted that way.
Speaker 1: A lot of the influence on us is fear based,
Speaker 1: even in the UFO community in the you know, it's
Speaker 1: fear based, and so we see anti other stuff come
Speaker 1: out that is like don't be afraid. And what I
Speaker 1: found is that, like I said, I just at a
Speaker 1: certain point, I just kind of took the mantle off.
Speaker 1: It's not on my shoulders to be the only guy
Speaker 1: that talks about being abducted and does this stuff, right, right,
Speaker 1: So it's not up to me. And when I got
Speaker 1: rid of that and I started, you know, all the
Speaker 1: things that I was afraid of happening. You know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna lie to us, They're gonna they're gonna come and
Speaker 1: get me for what I did for me, telling the truth,
Speaker 1: telling my story and all these things. Like, at a
Speaker 1: certain point I had to make up my mind consciously
Speaker 1: was not be afraid of it because it was consuming
Speaker 1: my day to day life and I got stuff to do,
Speaker 1: and just letting go of it all and kind of
Speaker 1: just focusing on my near perspective around me. Believe me,
Speaker 1: Sedona was enough cause for fear for me. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a different experience for other people, but for me,
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, an ah, And so I
Speaker 1: was afraid. And after letting go of it all, it's like,
Speaker 1: once you get that that overlying anxiety out of the way,
Speaker 1: you're free to go on and build stuff and actually
Speaker 1: get your life in order. So yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm preaching or a soapbar's to be said.
Speaker 2: Right, I would say one of the number one reasons
Speaker 2: we get attacked is for being too positive. Sometimes, like
Speaker 2: people genuinely get mad when we talk about the positive future.
Speaker 2: Are we we see something that happens with the Trump
Speaker 2: administration or not even that, just anything in the world,
Speaker 2: and we if we have a positive perspective on it. Man,
Speaker 2: people do not like that. It's like like they it
Speaker 2: all costs, like it has to be a bad thing,
Speaker 2: like you said, like it has to be that boogieman.
Speaker 2: And if we don't, if we're not on that same
Speaker 2: page with them, then they quite literally attack us. And
Speaker 2: and it's just wild to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the same way. Well, if we're not people
Speaker 1: bond through hating a common enemy hatred, right, So when
Speaker 1: they're getting together, they want to start hating stuff and
Speaker 1: people bond to it's like a natural trauma bond.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it also creates us first that so if
Speaker 3: you're not in their group of like everything's horrible all
Speaker 3: the time and the enemy, they think, if you don't
Speaker 3: believe the same thing, then that means you're the enemy.
Speaker 3: It's like anyone outside of this group is the enemy.
Speaker 3: It creates this automatic us versus them, and now you're
Speaker 3: the enemy if you're outside of this what I.
Speaker 2: Believe cancel culture.
Speaker 1: Looking look at charm exactly it. Well, we've seen it,
Speaker 1: but we've seen it in our testimonies that have come forward.
Speaker 1: So we've seen that in the testimonies. There were provocateur
Speaker 1: people that show up at conferences that cause rumor and
Speaker 1: trouble and this and that, and you know, people are
Speaker 1: always asking me, what do you think about this guy?
Speaker 1: What do you think about this testimony? And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of them I don't think much of. But it's
Speaker 1: not my job to go and sift through everything. Like
Speaker 1: it was my job to present my information, research it
Speaker 1: and try to present it and with evidence so that
Speaker 1: a twelve year old could understand it. And I think
Speaker 1: I did that largely, but then unbeknownst to me, all
Speaker 1: the stuff that I learned from it turned into a
Speaker 1: whole nother career and direction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's also not our job to attack, to
Speaker 3: go to publicly attack people constantly and tell people who
Speaker 3: not to follow, And like, I see a lot of
Speaker 3: this in the community. It's it's they spend more time
Speaker 3: attacking other people and telling people who's bad, making lists
Speaker 3: of that. I just see this, like shared recently, this
Speaker 3: list of all the bad people being shared social media.
Speaker 1: What's that I don't think I made the list.
Speaker 2: I know you weren't.
Speaker 1: You weren't, but I was very awesome people.
Speaker 3: The people that I love and I know are great
Speaker 3: people were on that list.
Speaker 1: Me too. I know there were people on there. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, we'll get out of here. There but people.
Speaker 3: But then you have people going, oh, I'm so glad
Speaker 3: I'm not on the list, and I commented on a
Speaker 3: couple I'm like, well if you would, what if you
Speaker 3: were on that list? What would you think of the list?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 3: How about the whole concept of sharing lists. Let's you know,
Speaker 3: this is not how it works, because anyone can make
Speaker 3: a list and then share it around and then you
Speaker 3: just shut up your discernment and go, Okay, these are
Speaker 3: all the bad people that I don't want to follow.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I was gonna to say, I'll revise it to send
Speaker 3: out my own lists later today then, right. I mean,
Speaker 3: speaking of this, there was a certain individual very popular
Speaker 3: on SSP, individual who unfortunately did a lot of damage,
Speaker 3: who used to make his own list and you would
Speaker 3: almost always be on that are you are you good?
Speaker 3: Those I stopped following you because I was a fan
Speaker 3: of him at the time, and I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 3: Corey's saying he's a fraud, so oh, okay, I guess
Speaker 3: that means he.
Speaker 1: Might be right.
Speaker 2: It just stops you from looking at it.
Speaker 3: Literally, I watched like one interview and then I saw
Speaker 3: Corey say you were a fraud or stealing his info
Speaker 3: or whatever he said, and I was like, oh, I
Speaker 3: shot off my discernment.
Speaker 1: I fell for it.
Speaker 3: And then until a little bit later, I was like,
Speaker 3: I think, I think this guy is legit, you know,
Speaker 3: And then you know, I start seeing like the ego
Speaker 3: there and I and then you as you described, like
Speaker 3: that's become such a problem in your sense of so
Speaker 3: many people just have gone down that path.
Speaker 1: It's true. It's true. A lot of people are don't
Speaker 1: care about educating the audience. They care about getting the
Speaker 1: attention from the audience.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not about the truth. It's about being right
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And it's a big chasm, and it's a
Speaker 1: problem right now. I think it's our biggest problem right
Speaker 1: now is that people are trying to get attention rather
Speaker 1: than push disclosure forward. For one, but the Corey good
Speaker 1: stuff happened so long ago that I got a thick
Speaker 1: skin back in because I was devastated. I looked up
Speaker 1: to him when he was competent. I was completely devastated
Speaker 1: when he attacked me, and nobody knew me. Back then,
Speaker 1: I was very relatively, very small, and so I went
Speaker 1: kind of went through it by myself. But then later on,
Speaker 1: six seven years later, other people got attacked by people,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, it's nothing, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Just take your time and just just polish your own act.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about somebody else's polish yourself, right, And that's
Speaker 1: what that's what that's what really shines later on, is
Speaker 1: your own polish, not doing somebody else.
Speaker 3: And the right people will see that, and you know, well,
Speaker 3: well know you're real and know you're genuine, And it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what the people, the haters think, they're always
Speaker 3: gonna have hit. There's always going to be haters no
Speaker 3: matter what.
Speaker 1: It right, We're the same, We're on the same vibe, Tyler.
Speaker 1: No matter how it went about or why right, if
Speaker 1: Corey was an agent or disinfo or stealing his agent
Speaker 1: or genuine, he gave us a lot. He gave a
Speaker 1: lot of people, He opened the mind of a lot
Speaker 1: of people. There was a big progress with the work
Speaker 1: that him and the late David Wilcock did, right, and
Speaker 1: so it opened up the really a big chunk of
Speaker 1: consciousness to the reality of the Secret Space Program. They
Speaker 1: gave us a lot. Man whether it was or whatever,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the reason Tyler I are even doing this. Really,
Speaker 3: the reason we met and the reason we formed the
Speaker 3: show and let alone that SSP.
Speaker 2: You you know, well, it's not necessarily because of Corey,
Speaker 2: but what he inspired within us, like that are just
Speaker 2: what that message with that movement, whatever it was.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I mean, like the conference we met
Speaker 3: at was that the big headliners were David Corey and
Speaker 3: Emory right, and we were big fans of Cosmic Disclosure
Speaker 3: at the time, and we're like, oh, I got to
Speaker 3: go to this conference, and then that's where we meet,
Speaker 3: and then we start the podcast.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, right, so it'll play the role
Speaker 2: and and you know a lot of that stuff I
Speaker 2: look at too. Whenever you first get attacked, it's devastating
Speaker 2: and heartbreaking, and but there's lessons in that and then
Speaker 2: it's up to you and how are you going to
Speaker 2: pull yourself back out of that? But also it's preparing
Speaker 2: you for this field, just the truth movement in general.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about any communities here, I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the global truth movement because this happens everywhere. It's preparing
Speaker 2: you for what to expect. Like it's it's not it's cutthroat.
Speaker 2: It's hard, and especially in the age of the internet,
Speaker 2: when people, you know, they'll say things to you that
Speaker 2: they would never say to your face. You know, so
Speaker 2: and you know, an emotion destroying people whatever, like you
Speaker 2: have to Unfortunately, like I kind of feel like you
Speaker 2: have to walk through that fire doing this work in
Speaker 2: order to be able to like it. It's testing you,
Speaker 2: like are you built for it? Are you going to
Speaker 2: keep doing this?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Can you handle it? And if you can, then it's
Speaker 2: you can really look at it as something to be
Speaker 2: grateful for and in preparing you for, you know, the
Speaker 2: years ahead.
Speaker 1: It's the price, yeah, right, you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened because of me. You People asked me what happened.
Speaker 1: People asked, Hey, did anybody happen this too? And I said, yeah, me,
Speaker 1: And they asked me what happened? And I told and repeat,
Speaker 1: rinse and repeat, and I don't know what that did
Speaker 1: to other people. But a lot of people came to
Speaker 1: me and it worked with me since and I learned
Speaker 1: a lot from them and was able to point things
Speaker 1: out that they didn't they weren't aware of. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people went through this twenty and beck or
Speaker 1: their own version of abduction and just nobody would listen
Speaker 1: to them or make any sense of it. And they
Speaker 1: just needed somebody to listen that knew something about it.
Speaker 1: And then I look at common and I and I
Speaker 1: always pay attention to when still that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 1: Nobody pays it when it happened, when it happened again,
Speaker 1: and when you snapped out of it. And so I
Speaker 1: paid attention to that, and I'd pointed out to people
Speaker 1: and that was like my service I did for years.
Speaker 1: And we're it's gonna get worse, right, you know, like
Speaker 1: the numbers are going to blow up the more that
Speaker 1: people learn about it. And so it's a big part
Speaker 1: of being a human right now is that we're under
Speaker 1: the boot of secret et existence and it can be bad.
Speaker 1: It's a bad thing. I mean, what if they went
Speaker 1: to does anybody ever a given thought to maybe they
Speaker 1: went to Eisenhower and said, look, if you if the
Speaker 1: etis I said, look, if you tell your people that
Speaker 1: we exist, we're going to wipe out the world. You
Speaker 1: all be dead. Of course, that would justify the secrecy,
Speaker 1: like any president would be like, Okay, we won't tell
Speaker 1: them and go through all this lengths of trouble to
Speaker 1: where we're at. I mean, what if that's the kind
Speaker 1: of threat we're under that we just don't realize. They
Speaker 1: don't want to tell us because everybody would be what
Speaker 1: do you mean they're gonna kill us?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Like that never comes up, And that's could be, that
Speaker 1: could be a reality for all we know that the
Speaker 1: ets are like, but this is how it is. And
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna tell this lot. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: off the damn moon and you know, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: say that nothing happened, and we're gonna hide drum moon
Speaker 1: rocks and you're gonna have this. You can have gasoline
Speaker 1: or we're gonna wipe you out. We're gonna drop a
Speaker 1: virus on there and you'll I'll be dead in a weekend.
Speaker 1: And say, maybe that's a reality that we're just not
Speaker 1: aware of. So the the people that we see are
Speaker 1: bad guys that are holding us a secret might be
Speaker 1: closet good guys, you know what I'm saying, Like the
Speaker 1: low key good guys that are trying to help, they're
Speaker 1: just making sense of impossible problems.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, real quick, Aeron, I know you want to
Speaker 2: say something, but the show Stargate SG. One is a
Speaker 2: lot of disclosure in that show, Like every so many episodes,
Speaker 2: like once the season, maybe you know, they have some
Speaker 2: scenario where the Earth is literally on the verge of
Speaker 2: being destroyed or attacked or something, right, and then they
Speaker 2: saved behind the scenes, they saved the world and they
Speaker 2: keep everybody living peacefully and nobody knows that anything happening.
Speaker 2: In one occasion, there was like these lights in the
Speaker 2: sky from one of the battles or something, and they
Speaker 2: just explain them away as something else, but they literally
Speaker 2: save the entire planet from being destroyed in that episode.
Speaker 2: I just wonder how many times has something like that
Speaker 2: actually maybe happened, you know, and maybe not. Maybe that
Speaker 2: just makes for good TV, but we can certainly speculate
Speaker 2: on it, and maybe, you know, that could justify some
Speaker 2: of the secrecy in a sense, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that it's moral and right. And you know that's a
Speaker 2: whole conversation with themselves. But you know, I do think
Speaker 2: you're on something and Aaron, you were going to say something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well there was so a lot of people. Know,
Speaker 3: there was the Brookings Report, which was a nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: report that was commissioned by NASA. Actually, I mean I
Speaker 3: should tell you everything. You know, it's a BS thing.
Speaker 3: But you know it makes sense on one level because
Speaker 3: the whole the whole point of it was if if
Speaker 3: we make contact with ETS or we discover ETS, should
Speaker 3: we tell the public or should we not? And it
Speaker 3: kind of like went through that and then the conclusion
Speaker 3: they came to was no, we absolutely should not because
Speaker 3: it would destroy the economy. It would collapse all the institutions.
Speaker 1: It would there.
Speaker 3: Would be mass panic and chaos, and they would like.
Speaker 1: It would cause us.
Speaker 3: And to be fair, if you know, it's the way
Speaker 3: it disclosure happens, like if it yeah, if it happened
Speaker 3: that way where all of a sudden everything's dumped on
Speaker 3: you all at once, or you may not prepared for it,
Speaker 3: it's not done the right way. It could it could
Speaker 3: be very destructive, right, but then what the bad guys
Speaker 3: do is of course that's a justification for Oh, we're
Speaker 3: never going to even work towards trying to you know,
Speaker 3: like you you people can't handle the truth, right, so
Speaker 3: we're just going to and we're going to keep manipulating
Speaker 3: you behind the scenes and all this stuff. But I
Speaker 3: think the good guys, both the good ets and the
Speaker 3: call them the white hats, whatever term you want to
Speaker 3: call them, humans that are working towards disclosure and working
Speaker 3: for at least working for humanity. No one's perfect only
Speaker 3: it's black and white, right, I think there's lots of
Speaker 3: shades of gray. But if you want to say, like
Speaker 3: people like us three who we want to see humanity
Speaker 3: thrive and the manipulation to end and the secrecy to
Speaker 3: go with, you know, where like we can all benefit
Speaker 3: it from a peaceful world with this advanced technology and
Speaker 3: like have open contact, right, they want to they want
Speaker 3: to work towards the disclosure, but they know it has
Speaker 3: to be done the right way, so they're not gonna
Speaker 3: They still know like, Okay, at this point in time,
Speaker 3: we're not ready for like full disclosure and to just
Speaker 3: dump everything, but we have to work towards that, and
Speaker 3: we have to work towards eliminating this cabal or getting
Speaker 3: them out of power so that they can't keep pushing
Speaker 3: these dark agendas and keep abusing. And you know, that
Speaker 3: killed off ninety percent of the popular you know, or whatever,
Speaker 3: all these dark agendas that are going on, the COVID
Speaker 3: jabs and all these things. So there are definitely factions
Speaker 3: going on. Ones working to further enslave humanity and keep
Speaker 3: the enslavement going and keep that going and making it
Speaker 3: worse and worse for us and better for them, and
Speaker 3: then the others working towards freeing humanity in my opinion,
Speaker 3: but doing it in the right way and disclosure in
Speaker 3: the right way. But that takes time and it's a process.
Speaker 3: So I think they're both simultaneously going on right now,
Speaker 3: and that's why things are so confusing. There's all this
Speaker 3: stuff going on at the same time.
Speaker 2: We're caught in the middle of someone else's.
Speaker 3: War exactly, and both ets, both positive and negative, you
Speaker 3: could say, et is at the same time, I think
Speaker 3: are behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Look, I get bombarded with political stuff constantly. It's so
Speaker 1: much that I put down social media. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can only do ten or ten minutes, and I'm
Speaker 1: just sick of seeing the politics or yea exist hating
Speaker 1: hate the other sex, I hate man, I hate women.
Speaker 3: Whatever, all men are bad, all women are bad, right, yea.
Speaker 1: Social engineering, it's a social engineering to divide. And I
Speaker 1: try to look at it like, why would they do this?
Speaker 1: I always ask that question. So if I'm seeing all
Speaker 1: this stuff, why, Obviously the political stuff they want your vote.
Speaker 1: So that's why. Obviously when you're seeing political stuff constantly,
Speaker 1: it's because they want your vote and they want to
Speaker 1: count it before it gets cast. They want to know
Speaker 1: that you look at so much of this content that
Speaker 1: you're likely going to vote this way, right, that's I
Speaker 1: logical you look at the sexist stuff. We have population
Speaker 1: contraction going on around the world, and when you look
Speaker 1: at the history of it, before we had all our wars,
Speaker 1: we had population explode. So we had population spikes about
Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty years before every major conflict, and if
Speaker 1: you go back you can look that. So I look
Speaker 1: at why why the immigration go in all of the
Speaker 1: First World countries from the Third World, And you think, well,
Speaker 1: it's a third World country or a takeover, and it is.
Speaker 1: I'm sold on their end and that way, But really
Speaker 1: it's economic balancing. Well, this is my theory. This is
Speaker 1: I'll say this is a theory. They are engineering the
Speaker 1: world for disclosure. And currently currently we have countries in
Speaker 1: the world that live at a certain economical level and
Speaker 1: a way of life. So we're in the United States,
Speaker 1: so we expect to call the repairman and have them
Speaker 1: come out and fix our shit. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people who don't live in that and they don't
Speaker 1: have a repair man, and they don't have spare parts,
Speaker 1: so they get out and build their own. So they're
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's a water pump. It's
Speaker 1: not an electrical pump because there's no power grid. And
Speaker 1: so those people that are invading technically invading these countries,
Speaker 1: what they find is something called we get the word,
Speaker 1: it's something called fund displacement or something whatever, money displacement.
Speaker 1: And they know that a certain amount of So if
Speaker 1: you have a million immigrants in a cut from a
Speaker 1: third world country into a first world country, there's a
Speaker 1: dollar amount that the third world country goes up in
Speaker 1: GDP because they send their money back, they go and
Speaker 1: get a job, and they send their money back to Grandma,
Speaker 1: and they can spend money there and the GDP goes
Speaker 1: up on everybody there, and so there is a silver
Speaker 1: lining in this thing. So it could be a takeover,
Speaker 1: it could be the Boogeyman, it could be the elites
Speaker 1: wanting to niehap Us. But it also has a positive
Speaker 1: effect is that these countries that these people are coming
Speaker 1: out of that are war torn, that are in poverty
Speaker 1: less than a dollar a day, they're sending money there.
Speaker 1: They're coming here and making a hundred a day, two
Speaker 1: hundred a day, and they're sending money back there, and
Speaker 1: it's having a huge economical impact on those countries. So
Speaker 1: there's a silver lining. And I always look at things
Speaker 1: as like, why I go, well, that's really not the bad,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as it's really not that bad
Speaker 1: here with all the immigration and you see all this stuff.
Speaker 1: When I went to Europe, I didn't see anything. They
Speaker 1: make it look like France is this war torn in Paris.
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything like that when I was there.
Speaker 1: You know, So we are we are, we're blended. We're
Speaker 1: seeing a blend. And if you were an ET civilization
Speaker 1: or ET group of federation or whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call it, because and believe me, galactic federations are a diamond, doesn't.
Speaker 1: There isn't one or two groups up there that's in
Speaker 1: charge of all of it. Space is a lot bigger
Speaker 1: than we think it is their diamond doesn't. So you
Speaker 1: get a million planets that work together, well, there's a
Speaker 1: billion of those groups. So they come down here. The
Speaker 1: first thing they would want to see us is integrate
Speaker 1: our way of life. Why would why should one society
Speaker 1: be benefit from their technology and another society of really
Speaker 1: more and morally great people. So I'm in California, and
Speaker 1: they made it sound like before I got here that
Speaker 1: the Latinos that all moved here from South America came
Speaker 1: through that it was like this crime wave, and every
Speaker 1: Latino culture that I've come across the cover has been wonderful.
Speaker 1: They're wonderful people, honestly. And I'm not advocating being illegal
Speaker 1: immigration because I don't believe in that either. I'm not
Speaker 1: advocating for it. I'm just saying I haven't seen the boogeyman.
Speaker 1: I haven't met the boogeyman. And so we could be
Speaker 1: seeing social engineering from an international entity in the on
Speaker 1: behalf of a proxy of an intergalactic entity. That's my
Speaker 1: that's my point. I'm just thinking why, just kind of
Speaker 1: thinking out what we're seeing because nothing makes sense these days,
Speaker 1: but still is like so baffling, why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So you look at the long game always and uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things are like I said, the
Speaker 1: Boogeyman isn't as bad as we think it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day that I think
Speaker 1: we have we have all the power. Like we have
Speaker 1: the power.
Speaker 3: There's way more of us than there are of the
Speaker 3: so called then, right, and if you want to simplify
Speaker 3: all of this, it's that we've all been asleep at
Speaker 3: the wheel for so long and they've taken taken advantage
Speaker 3: of that. They're like, okay, we can just manipulate these sleepwalkers.
Speaker 3: You know, they don't realize they're driving the ship. Right second,
Speaker 3: enough of us realize that we take our power back.
Speaker 3: You can't game over.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: It's like we are creating the reality. They're just manipulating
Speaker 3: us into creating a rally that they want us to
Speaker 3: create to simplify everything. You know, So it's like, start
Speaker 3: creating the reality you want to create, right, not somebody else,
Speaker 3: not what you're told to create. Not where you're told
Speaker 3: to be afraid of, not where you're told to support,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. Create the rally that you, the deep
Speaker 3: down you truly want and focus on that, right and
Speaker 3: enough of us to do that, y'ash the newer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they always want you to worry about the volcano,
Speaker 1: not your yard, and you should worry about your yard
Speaker 1: and not the volcano. Everybody's got a volcano nearby exactly,
Speaker 1: and so you don't know if it's it might go off. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta be ready for that. You gotta have you
Speaker 1: gotta be ready. But in the meantime, you're wasting your
Speaker 1: time thinking about it all the time. It's a volcano,
Speaker 1: it might not go off. You just take care of
Speaker 1: your yard and everything's cool. I think we have it
Speaker 1: made by and large. I think most people that complain
Speaker 1: in the world really have made like it could always
Speaker 1: be worth. We're way better off than we were a
Speaker 1: hundred years ago and one hundred years before that, et cetera.
Speaker 1: And I think we live in an amazing time. If
Speaker 1: you really apply yourself. People that are struggling financially, don't
Speaker 1: shun ai, go and ask it. Tell what your story
Speaker 1: say I'm broke, I need some money. What can I
Speaker 1: do to generate some funds right now? And let it
Speaker 1: help you use the tools we have today, because your
Speaker 1: grandpa didn't and he was out busting his ass. So
Speaker 1: use what we've got here. We have the ability to
Speaker 1: do so many things. Like I didn't get schooling, so
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I never learned the math, the long form,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like the Einstein, the algebraic yeah,
Speaker 1: the equation. I just can't do that stuff. But now
Speaker 1: I have AI to to does it. But I have
Speaker 1: observed experience from my lifetime of doing stuff like I
Speaker 1: covered a lot of ground, and so I can be like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, and AI does the math work out there?
Speaker 1: And so now I'm just as smart as those guys,
Speaker 1: all right, And so I'm saying, just manipulate, play the
Speaker 1: play the game, play it win.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I mean it's it.
Speaker 2: Traveling changes your perspective on the world too, like and
Speaker 2: then really when you it puts things put your life
Speaker 2: into perspective as well, and you realize that you don't
Speaker 2: have it bad at all. And when you go to
Speaker 2: some of these third world countries and the things that
Speaker 2: we find ourselves complaining about. I have to catch myself
Speaker 2: sometimes and be like, bro, like you literally got like
Speaker 2: you're living a life that people dream of sometimes, you know,
Speaker 2: not saying that my life is perfect, but like I'm
Speaker 2: happy and you know, I've made it for myself, and
Speaker 2: I feel like, uh, you know, the things that decide
Speaker 2: to complain about are so like it's kind of a
Speaker 2: slap in the face to other parts of the world
Speaker 2: that are really struggling, you know, so it puts it
Speaker 2: really kind of humbles you in a way whenever you
Speaker 2: can like see the world through the lens of the
Speaker 2: people and in those situations, and uh, it's I think
Speaker 2: it's a great thing to do. And and and like
Speaker 2: somebody said, it's impossible to travel and be a racist, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because once you spend time with these other cultures and
Speaker 2: experience these people, you understand their beautiful souls. Right, So
Speaker 2: it's just really on you know where you're at and
Speaker 2: how you decide to view the world. What lens that is.
Speaker 1: It's true and I think that's my biggest thing that
Speaker 1: I take people off with all the time, because I'm
Speaker 1: like quick complaining you got to make what are you
Speaker 1: talking about well, so everybody else has it better than me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, all they did was a B and C.
Speaker 1: Just go do a B and C. You'll be just
Speaker 1: like them. You can join them. We think that also
Speaker 1: there's some spiritual or like you can't get wealth or
Speaker 1: fame or the things that you want because it's rigged.
Speaker 1: It's how you have to be Hollywood, and you have
Speaker 1: to sell out your soul to sell your soul for success.
Speaker 1: That's not the case, no. I mean, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: want to go get in a Marvel movie or something,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how that works. But
Speaker 1: if you want to just be successful and pay the
Speaker 1: bills and get the big house, you can go do it. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no spell keeping you out of money. Man,
Speaker 1: If you're struggling, being jealous of somebody else doesn't do
Speaker 1: any good for anybody. You should. The way you fix
Speaker 1: it is to be happy for them. You don't know
Speaker 1: what somebody paid to get better off than you. They
Speaker 1: paid the price, and if you're not willing to pay
Speaker 1: the price, they're always going to be better off than you.
Speaker 1: But if you just go and pay up and do
Speaker 1: your thing, you can get there. Too. There's no right,
Speaker 1: it's a big illusion.
Speaker 2: Right, it's a big illusion. Well, we've kind of gotten
Speaker 2: more of a philosophical standpoint here, but hey, that's your.
Speaker 1: Next Your next documentary is the philosophy of Journey to.
Speaker 2: Truth, the philosophy of perfect Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, so just
Speaker 2: to kind of recap a little bit, you know, we
Speaker 2: we started off talking about the documentary and I just
Speaker 2: want to remind people. So if you are interested in
Speaker 2: watching it, it's called a Lifetime of Silence Behind the
Speaker 2: Indoor and it can be found on any You can
Speaker 2: download the fossome app fowesome are Awesome with the letter
Speaker 2: F in front of it and watch it in your
Speaker 2: living room now. And that's a big deal for us,
Speaker 2: and we're trying to get down the other streaming platforms.
Speaker 2: But if you want to watch it without ads, you
Speaker 2: can just buy it outright for nine to ninety nine
Speaker 2: on our Patreon and you don't have to even be
Speaker 2: a member. You can just buy it as a product,
Speaker 2: and that can be found through our website, Journey to
Speaker 2: Truth dot Online, and it has everything else that we
Speaker 2: do there. But you know, the film, the documentary, going
Speaker 2: back to that, it's you know, We're grateful that you
Speaker 2: were a part of it, Tony, and you know, we'll
Speaker 2: definitely I think we have some ideas for a follow
Speaker 2: up now, but just wanted to thank you for being
Speaker 2: here today and really just you know, everything that you're
Speaker 2: doing and we appreciate you you're doing.
Speaker 1: That meant a lot to me for us to go
Speaker 1: out there and have a witness to go to in
Speaker 1: your curd, because there was a bit of evidence there.
Speaker 1: And I want to say that I won't go back
Speaker 1: to in your curd. I wouldn't I guarantee that, I
Speaker 1: guarantee that we got in trouble for that man, like
Speaker 1: they like. My life took a weird turn right after
Speaker 1: that within days and all these people contacting me and
Speaker 1: joining my Patreon, and it turned out that it was
Speaker 1: a giant op and we'd get into that. You know,
Speaker 1: call me paranoid or whatever, but you know, they brought
Speaker 1: some things to bear on us, like that guy sitting
Speaker 1: in the diner staring at us like that was a
Speaker 1: weird They knew were there doing what we were doing,
Speaker 1: and they knew that we were dipping our toes in
Speaker 1: the pool of classified projects that should have that is
Speaker 1: still illegal to undo, and so I got the hint.
Speaker 1: You know, I got message received. I won't be going
Speaker 1: back to Ridge Prest, even though there's still a big,
Speaker 1: great deal of evidence there behind it. And if I
Speaker 1: can prove that, it proves the twenty in back, it
Speaker 1: proves aliens, it proves a lot, it proves it, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing, the whole nine, right, And we did that.
Speaker 1: So that was a huge. Your documentary is huge, and
Speaker 1: I think the magnitude of that still hasn't been recognized
Speaker 1: for what we did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well thank you, and yeah, I mean it was,
Speaker 2: it was, it was. I was happy to be a
Speaker 2: part of that trip and me filming that and witnessing
Speaker 2: it and feeling the emotion and you know, being there
Speaker 2: is totally different than seeing it our camera. Like I
Speaker 2: watched the scene when we're going through the portable and
Speaker 2: it didn't it doesn't look like it felt it felt
Speaker 2: like intense, like we were breaking the lall like my
Speaker 2: heart was beating, but it we just seemed so kind
Speaker 2: of calm in the video.
Speaker 1: It felt like we were in there for twenty minutes, right,
Speaker 1: We were in there for like one minute, right, so fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was the place I remembered it. How could
Speaker 1: I remember it if I if it didn't exist, if
Speaker 1: the twenty back thing wasn't real, how could I know
Speaker 1: that place?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 2: You know, yep, right, yeah, And that's why we included
Speaker 2: that in the film because that's a huge piece of evidence.
Speaker 2: So anyway, let everybody know where they can find I
Speaker 2: knew your websites and how they can follow you online
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 1: Right now in the little plug so Tonyredriggs dot com
Speaker 1: has links to all my books and my patreon. I teach,
Speaker 1: but I don't even call it teaching. Like I host
Speaker 1: remote viewing groups and workshops. I mean I'm up to
Speaker 1: like four or five five a week now, and you
Speaker 1: know there's like seventy remote viewers in there doing that
Speaker 1: on my pit through my patreon, we do live zoom
Speaker 1: calls and we practice remote viewing. It's a blast, it's
Speaker 1: a ton of fun. I do other projects. We have
Speaker 1: professional remote viewing. We're doing forecasting in remote viewing. We're
Speaker 1: successful at it. And then the Maple Street Learning is
Speaker 1: Maple Street Learning dot com or dot Maple Street Learning.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's under development, but Scion dot com
Speaker 1: is the one that got the makeover and has the
Speaker 1: app and check that out. All the Scion products are
Speaker 1: really cool. We get tons of great people that are
Speaker 1: just blown away, and we get they write us letters
Speaker 1: every week and saying, man, I was skeptical and I
Speaker 1: bought it because they're like fifty bucks a pop. I
Speaker 1: bought your product, and man, it's changed me. I love it,
Speaker 1: so thank you so much. You know, we're getting all
Speaker 1: these that come to us people. The technology is really powerful.
Speaker 1: The audio technology is really really powerful, and so I
Speaker 1: got high helps for the app. It's coming in another
Speaker 1: month or two and it'll be on that website and
Speaker 1: basically every dime Thescion dot com ever made. I rolled
Speaker 1: back into the marketing to have the website look pretty nice.
Speaker 1: So the break even thing, Yeah, but it's a neat
Speaker 1: technology and I'll be made. There's a lot more of
Speaker 1: that to come. So I'm very proud of that. The
Speaker 1: work we've done awesome.
Speaker 2: And we'll put all those links in the description for
Speaker 2: anybody who's interested. And yeah, thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's been a while since we've
Speaker 2: had you on the show, but I mean you still.
Speaker 2: I mean, we used to have you on all the time.
Speaker 2: I remember it, and then it was quite a bit.
Speaker 2: So if anybody is interested in the in the full testimony,
Speaker 2: just go back through our library and check out some
Speaker 2: of those older episodes. In fact, the very first time
Speaker 2: we had you on for that two part thing, you know,
Speaker 2: we were still new to this and you were, yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously younger in your journey too, and it really we
Speaker 2: did a good job going through the whole thing in
Speaker 2: those first two episodes. So if anybody wants to.
Speaker 3: Uh one one and one O two, if anybody wants
Speaker 3: to hear Tony's kind of full story, I remember that, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I remember it was right after episode one hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we had you on for a two part so it
Speaker 3: was one on.
Speaker 1: One and one O two.
Speaker 3: And now that we got our channel back, thank god,
Speaker 3: on our main channel on YouTube. Uh, the original well
Speaker 3: I think we re uploaded it on the other one anyway,
Speaker 3: but you got the original comments and everything on there. Cool,
Speaker 3: you guys can go back and find that if you
Speaker 3: want to find watch Tony's story and get get more
Speaker 3: of your your the meat of your story and experience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, definitely. And then we've had him on a
Speaker 2: number of times since then about other than.
Speaker 3: We so probably like five or six at least since
Speaker 3: and then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but it was good catching up again and
Speaker 2: seeing where you're at today and we appreciate that, and yeah,
Speaker 2: this was awesome. Any final words before we wrap it up.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of stuff I don't talk about
Speaker 1: in the disclosure world and hold your hat. So it's
Speaker 1: there's things in the works that are along that line
Speaker 1: where are going to get disclosure. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be the way that we think it is, and the
Speaker 1: same way, like I said, the same way that the
Speaker 1: UAPs told us that the physics are real, we're going
Speaker 1: to get other things that tell us that the ets
Speaker 1: are real. And where people are working on it on
Speaker 1: there there's a grassroots behind the scenes with people that
Speaker 1: have contact and so there's a grassroots thing. But I
Speaker 1: can't really it's a big secret and it's in the
Speaker 1: works man, and it's come a long way. So there
Speaker 1: are projects for disclosure to happen, whether a government likes
Speaker 1: it or not. Boom cliff hanger right there.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for that. Yeah, thank you, Tony and looking
Speaker 2: forward to that, and thank you guys all much. Thank
Speaker 2: you guys, all for being here. We appreciate you, we
Speaker 2: love you, can't do this without you, and until next time,
Speaker 2: have a Grady B. Good night,