WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:04.200 That's no moon, it's a space station. 2 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.039 Hey, everyone, welcome back to the show. A few things 3 00:00:32.039 --> 00:00:35.920 before we get started. For one, our new documentary is 4 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:40.119 now available on fowsome. Fowsome is a streaming app that 5 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:42.560 can be found on Roku tv, but you can download 6 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:46.200 it on any smart device, and it's now featuring our 7 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:50.439 new Secret Space Program documentary which features Tony red Riggs, 8 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:54.039 who is an SSP experiencer we've interviewed many times and 9 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.159 he is going to be telling us about where his 10 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.439 research has led him since he's left the program, and 11 00:01:00.479 --> 00:01:05.439 he's found himself in some pretty interesting areas regarding remote viewing. 12 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:07.519 So we're going to get into some of that today. 13 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:09.879 But the documentary is now available and if you guys 14 00:01:09.959 --> 00:01:11.680 want to go and watch it, you can do so 15 00:01:12.439 --> 00:01:16.480 from the streaming app fowsome. And Tony, you know, that 16 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:20.000 was an integral part of the film and it took 17 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:21.760 us a few years to put it all together. We 18 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:24.000 finally got it out, and you know, when I sent 19 00:01:24.079 --> 00:01:26.159 it to you, Tony, your feedback was amazing. I think 20 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:28.239 some of your quotes that you sent me ended up 21 00:01:28.239 --> 00:01:31.799 into the movie trailer because there was just a genuine review, 22 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:34.319 you know, so that was pretty cool. But you know, 23 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.159 what are your thoughts on that? I know it's something 24 00:01:36.239 --> 00:01:38.359 you know, there's been many hit pieces and attacks on 25 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:41.719 not just you personally, but the whole secret space program 26 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:44.519 in general. So what were your thoughts when you, you know, 27 00:01:44.599 --> 00:01:47.200 watched the film finally and and you know, what's it 28 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:48.040 looking like today? 29 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.359 I promised Veronica, I'm not going to cry on Journey 30 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:55.480 the Truth. So first, I'm happy to see you guys. 31 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:58.920 It's been forever and I love you guys and doing 32 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:01.799 good stuff and it was one of my favorite groups 33 00:02:01.799 --> 00:02:07.359 of people here. No, you're you released it like I 34 00:02:07.359 --> 00:02:10.840 think a week after the Darcy Weir thing. 35 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:12.919 Right, And that wasn't intentional I did. 36 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.719 I didn't even know, And it was a trap like 37 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.680 Darcy were he paid me two hundred bucks to interview me. 38 00:02:18.960 --> 00:02:22.319 Maybe I'm out contractually, shouldn't say that. But I was 39 00:02:22.360 --> 00:02:25.800 at the San Jose Conference tech conference, me and Chris O'Connor, 40 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:29.800 and that whole conference was like under legal threats with 41 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.719 Randy Kramer and and Lena and Chris and me and 42 00:02:32.759 --> 00:02:36.360 doctor Sala and uh forgetting John Charles and a few 43 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:39.919 other people, and everybody was like they slid us a 44 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.680 contract to speak at this conference and it said, you'll know, 45 00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:46.879 you can't work together for two years. Everybody at this 46 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:49.039 conference cannot work together for the next two years. And 47 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:50.599 it was like a month before the first de sinc. 48 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:53.560 We were like, what what so in order? And he said, well, 49 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:55.759 if you guys back out now, I've already spent you know, 50 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.759 a lot of money promoting it, I'm gonna sue you 51 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:01.120 guys to recoup. So me and Chris were like, well, 52 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:04.560 we'll come. And then Dan Willis rest his beautiful soul, 53 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:08.319 did a zoom appearance and did a great you know, 54 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.159 did his presentation. But when we went there, Darcy Weer 55 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:13.039 was waiting and he made it look like he was 56 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.800 a fan and he totally was misleading on his intentions 57 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:19.240 and filmed us for a documentary he put out and 58 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:20.919 it was a total hit piece. And I was in 59 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.199 the commercial, like the trailer making me look dumb like 60 00:03:24.280 --> 00:03:26.960 he it was in like he had the camera running 61 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:29.560 when we were just sitting He's like, hey, guys, I'll 62 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:31.120 be just a minute, and he had the camera set 63 00:03:31.199 --> 00:03:33.599 up and it was on and recording unbeknounced to us 64 00:03:33.599 --> 00:03:35.759 and I was just sitting there and he put that 65 00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:37.639 in the trailer, like he asked me a question, and 66 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:39.719 then he went to that like and put you know 67 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:41.360 what I'm saying, Like it was just it was this 68 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:44.400 greasy man the way he did it right. That came 69 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.360 out and I was shocked, you know, I was hurt 70 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:51.319 by it. And I don't feel that I've really through 71 00:03:51.560 --> 00:03:53.840 the time that I've spoke, since I've known you guys, 72 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.080 and since I spoke publicly, I feel like I really 73 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.919 haven't exploited people. I really tried to walk the narrow 74 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:03.240 even though you know, I mean, I clearly have made mistakes, 75 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:05.960 but I don't feel I've done everything anything to kind 76 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:08.280 of warrant that. And I don't expect. I expect people 77 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.080 to be skeptical of my information. It's cool, but to 78 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:14.840 be faked, you know, like to be lied lied about 79 00:04:15.199 --> 00:04:18.680 and publicly. And then your yours came out and put 80 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.319 the whole thing on a real light and we got 81 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.879 real evidence, man, Like, let's see, here I go. We 82 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:30.480 got evidence. We got evidence that I was there, and 83 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:32.399 if I was there, then that means I was probably 84 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.000 at the rest of it too. Like we did the 85 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:37.839 same thing in Seattle, me and my friend Rob, Rob Hainey, hello, 86 00:04:37.959 --> 00:04:40.839 if you're watching, And we went to Seattle a month 87 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:44.600 before you and I Tyler went to yo Kern, and uh, 88 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.720 it was the same experience, like I knew my way 89 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.800 around without ever knowing it. And I can, yeah, call 90 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.519 my mama right now and ask her, did Tony ever 91 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:53.720 go to Inyokern when he was a kid or anytime? 92 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.319 And the answer is no. You know, I never went 93 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:59.680 there ever in my life. And we And it's funny 94 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:01.319 because I went and looked, and a lot of the 95 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:06.199 interviews where I described that portable we went into are gone. Really, 96 00:05:06.600 --> 00:05:09.439 so I described it, you know, the little the little 97 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:13.920 cubby hole, the little cubicles. I had described that whole 98 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:18.120 thing in interviews a few times early on in my testimony, 99 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:21.160 you know, early the first few years, you know, twenty eighteen, 100 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:23.639 I was doing a ton of interviews and those are 101 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:25.759 all gone now. So but that's what I called that 102 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.199 out years before we ever went there. And then boom, 103 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:30.480 we found the building exactly how I remembered it was. 104 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:36.040 So You're documentary said a lot of things straight, and 105 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:41.199 you know that's how I feel about it, Like I really, 106 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:44.240 you know, at a time when it was like when 107 00:05:44.279 --> 00:05:47.199 I got a total gut punch. You guys set the 108 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:50.279 record straight with that documentary. It was cool, Yeah, thank 109 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:53.399 you and thank you. Yeah it was It was interesting 110 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:55.720 because the whole film was, you know, we're just building 111 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.920 a case for the secret space program, right, and you're 112 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:02.040 actually dealing with the lower in the film that it 113 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:05.199 didn't serve time in the military, but you're you actually 114 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.560 have more evidence than most. So that's why we decided 115 00:06:08.600 --> 00:06:13.199 to basically highlight ear testimony throughout and then pepper in 116 00:06:13.240 --> 00:06:16.240 the other stuff and really build this case. So like 117 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:18.079 we okay, here it is in the military end, but 118 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.319 here's this guy who didn't go in the military, and 119 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.720 this is how this is the other way they bring 120 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.120 people into these programs. So it was very ambitious, and 121 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:28.959 we know there hasn't been a film done like that, 122 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:32.399 so we're just glad. We're grateful the feedback that we're getting. 123 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.040 It's been amazing. So I didn't know when I was 124 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:38.240 filming you finally around. I had no real vision for 125 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:40.360 the documentary at that point other than then I just 126 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.240 need to get this footage, and that's kind of how 127 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:45.319 it started. It worked out, and you did a really 128 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:47.480 good job editing you to putting it all together to 129 00:06:47.560 --> 00:06:49.879 make sense to people. So a lot of people don't 130 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:52.639 do that, and I'd like to see overturn to evidence. 131 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:54.519 I think there are a lot of great people speaking 132 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.319 right now about their time in the SSP, and they're 133 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.800 picking up where everybody left off and not circling back 134 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:02.720 and accentuating their own evidence. How do you believe that 135 00:07:02.759 --> 00:07:06.600 you were there for one? And two? Make somebody that 136 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:08.639 doesn't believe in any of this. You don't talk to 137 00:07:08.680 --> 00:07:11.399 the cron choir, don't preach to the choir, talk to 138 00:07:11.439 --> 00:07:14.040 the skeptics, show me, prove it to me, right, And 139 00:07:14.079 --> 00:07:16.079 here's a lack of that these days, and that's why 140 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:18.879 it's fizzled out. That's yeah. 141 00:07:19.800 --> 00:07:24.120 Yeah, And speaking of that, I'm speaking at a conference 142 00:07:24.240 --> 00:07:27.120 in Michigan. Your homestay actually coming up here in like 143 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:30.519 a week and a half. Good friend Frank Rigalis putting 144 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:34.519 it on and Jean Charles is speaking there, and Frank 145 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:38.120 is like, all right, Aaron. For the people that know 146 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:41.199 nothing about this stuff, like going from that to hearing 147 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:43.560 Jehan Charles might be a bit much, you know, And 148 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.360 I'm like, well, yeah, I understand. So he wants me 149 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.879 to really set set it up, like give the give 150 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:53.000 the proof and the foundation for there be even being 151 00:07:53.000 --> 00:07:56.240 these secret space programs bleeding up. And then people hear 152 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:58.600 Jean Charles and he has a lot of evidence too, 153 00:07:58.680 --> 00:07:59.600 just like you he has. 154 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:04.199 Yeah, great, he seems great. So he and I disagree 155 00:08:04.199 --> 00:08:06.560 on a certain thing and we kind of quit talking. 156 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.439 But ultimately jac is an important part of it all. 157 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:11.879 He's got great at it. I absolutely believe he is 158 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:14.920 real and genuine. I have a slide. I actually found 159 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:19.199 research into human teleportation, so it's not far fit. He 160 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.720 just comes right out with it and people go, what's 161 00:08:21.720 --> 00:08:24.399 like teleport and I just teleport. When I was a kid, 162 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.240 I could teleport. I had a beach sand and here's 163 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:28.759 the proof. Yeah, and it's great. He's got great evid 164 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:32.759 it's his documentary is another one that's really exceptional as 165 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.120 far as proving it. And like I said, there's a 166 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:37.279 school of people that come up with proof and the 167 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.200 school of people that aren't. And I'm begging the people 168 00:08:40.279 --> 00:08:42.200 that are just come up with some proof, man, just 169 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.080 something please please r Yeah. 170 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:47.879 Yeah, I mean that's and I think, what were you 171 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:49.000 going to say something else? 172 00:08:49.399 --> 00:08:50.879 I was gonna say I'll send that to you, Aaron 173 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.600 and help you out. I have a document about the 174 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.879 research and teleportation and help you for setting that up. 175 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:58.200 That would be amazing. 176 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:02.679 Thank you, Yeah, I'd love it. I would love to corroborate, collaborate, celebrate. 177 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.000 Yeah, yeah, whatever the word is. 178 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:07.960 Thanks you fantastic. 179 00:09:08.440 --> 00:09:11.919 So one of the things I noticed doing the film was, 180 00:09:12.080 --> 00:09:15.000 you know, we were under me personally. Maybe I don't, 181 00:09:15.080 --> 00:09:17.720 I can't speak for Aaron, but it was under intense 182 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.720 attack from not just like the typical online stuff, but 183 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.919 just even things in your personal life that you know 184 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:26.639 are related to what you're working on in the moment, 185 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:31.159 and they try to whatever, just energetically, you know, just 186 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.200 handicap you, so you just can't fully put your energy 187 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:38.200 into the project or whatever it is. And anytime that 188 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:42.600 we do an episode about the SSP that is that 189 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:45.279 carries a lot of weight, it seems like the attacks follow, 190 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.559 and I'm like, what's so, what is it? I'm thinking 191 00:09:47.559 --> 00:09:50.360 to myself, like, what could it be that they're attacking 192 00:09:50.399 --> 00:09:53.720 so much? And I'm looking comparing that what we talk 193 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:57.679 about to the mainstream disclosure, and I think at all costs, 194 00:09:57.720 --> 00:10:02.120 what they're trying to really prevent is that they cannot 195 00:10:02.600 --> 00:10:07.320 let people understand that they have colonized space. They're humans 196 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:10.200 in space. Like that's the main thing I think they're 197 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:13.279 trying to cover up above and beyond everything else, like, 198 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:15.879 not even the twenty in back concept. It's the fact 199 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:20.399 that humans have colonized space, on columnized space, on many 200 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:26.480 planetary bodies, and have breakaway civilizations everywhere. And it seems, 201 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.440 you know, that contradicts what they're trying to just trickle 202 00:10:29.480 --> 00:10:31.399 out to us on the mainstream. So what are your 203 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.600 thoughts on that. 204 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:38.159 That's an amazing point, and I it's honestly half of 205 00:10:38.200 --> 00:10:41.519 my career is explaining that what you just said, that 206 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:46.279 they're incrementally letting us know. It was a big deal 207 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.799 for them to show the UAPs the first tranch of 208 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:53.000 data was a bigger deal than anybody realizes because it 209 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:57.480 showed us it defeated the number one skepticism of the 210 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:01.519 ufology was the physics. So the number one thing that 211 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.799 all the scientists and everybody says is they can't But yeah, 212 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:05.200 how are we going to get there? How are we going 213 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:06.759 to get to space so fast? So we don't have 214 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:10.399 any proof of any technology that can possibly exist, they 215 00:11:10.399 --> 00:11:12.000 can go that fast. And then when they came out 216 00:11:12.000 --> 00:11:14.320 with film of craft and go to space in one 217 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.639 minute and then back down into the water, it dashed 218 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:19.960 that argument to pieces. And that was a big deal 219 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.200 for one and so they let it They're letting it 220 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:24.360 out incrementally. What I'm saying is they're going to give 221 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:26.480 a time to catch up that we're out there already. 222 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.360 And I think that there's a battle for who's going 223 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:33.080 to be ultimately in control. So I think that at 224 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:35.080 the top of everything in the world, you might have 225 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:38.519 one group that runs everything, but there's it's made up 226 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:41.279 of fifty or one hundred people that fight for position 227 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.159 to who's going to be the grand Poopa. And they 228 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.360 have their own version of what disclosure looks like, you know, 229 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.960 for one, and for two, their ETS have a say, 230 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:53.919 I think we don't take for granted the exo political 231 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:57.360 ramifications of disclosure. So the ET's are going to have 232 00:11:57.399 --> 00:11:59.559 to put up with our dumb asses. So you know 233 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:01.399 what I mean a certain level, the ETS are going 234 00:12:01.480 --> 00:12:03.240 to be like, oh great, these guys are coming up. 235 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:06.120 They've been programmed to be idiots for the last one 236 00:12:06.159 --> 00:12:08.840 hundred years from their own media, and now they're walking 237 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.440 around here with us, you know what I mean, Like 238 00:12:10.480 --> 00:12:14.519 it's kind of like and we on a proxy level 239 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:18.159 that might be explain what we're getting. Jesus, I shouldn't 240 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:21.759 say this on camera. That might be a proxy version 241 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:25.279 of what we're getting with all the mass immigration, because 242 00:12:25.320 --> 00:12:28.039 we're seeing people that have grown up, that have lived 243 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.799 life in a culture, third world culture that has its 244 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:36.320 own rule sets of morality going to another culture that 245 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:39.279 has a higher set of rule sets and morality, and 246 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:44.720 then their excuses to install surveillance over everything. So we're 247 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:49.720 seeing that, we're seeing like this disclosure happening, you know 248 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:51.399 what I mean, like a trust run, like a like 249 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:57.399 a pre pre game for disclosure for these cultures, cultures 250 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:01.000 that are incompatible to mix and called post disclosure is 251 00:13:01.039 --> 00:13:02.840 going to be that. And then in the middle of 252 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:04.759 all that, they can say, oh, yeah, we had a 253 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:07.399 colony up there a while ago, and we had these 254 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:12.519 under earths. I think there's more here on Earth, colonies 255 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:15.360 underneath of us that have ets coming and going because 256 00:13:15.360 --> 00:13:18.759 the gravity is convenient than in a lot of the 257 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:22.080 bodies in the Solar system. Because the gravity is expensive, yeah, 258 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:27.559 energetically expensive, that's that's an interesting point. I love that, 259 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:31.039 you know, you always have a very unique lens you 260 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:33.440 view all this stuff through, and that explains a lot 261 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.720 of your analogies. Yeah, but that makes a lot of 262 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:40.120 sense to me, and I definitely think that they're here, 263 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:43.320 especially human looking ets. In fact, there's a crop circles 264 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:47.600 years ago in like the seventies that showed a human face. 265 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:50.720 It was a response to a call that SETI, the 266 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.639 SETI program sent out that I don't know, a decade 267 00:13:54.679 --> 00:13:58.399 prior whatever it was. And then so they sent back 268 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:01.480 the same like blueprint thing that that was sent out, 269 00:14:01.480 --> 00:14:03.919 but it was altered. And then the other one next 270 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:05.960 to it was a human face, And everybody is like, 271 00:14:06.000 --> 00:14:07.840 why would they show a human face? So I'm thinking 272 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.200 to myself, that's them. They're telling us that's what they 273 00:14:11.240 --> 00:14:15.320 look like. They look like us. We are you selfie. 274 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:19.559 Yeah, it's like a selfie. But most people hadn't connected 275 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:21.639 at that. I mean, when you listen to the research 276 00:14:21.679 --> 00:14:24.440 on it, they're trying to figure out what they're telling 277 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.279 about us. But I think they're telling us that, you know, 278 00:14:27.759 --> 00:14:30.000 these ets are primarily human as well. 279 00:14:31.240 --> 00:14:36.480 I said recently, Yeah, I do talks I do Q 280 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:39.039 and A once a month on my Patriot, but every 281 00:14:39.080 --> 00:14:42.960 week in my Tier to three it's basically week a talk, 282 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:46.080 you know, and we all entertain and it's like back 283 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:49.240 and forth with you know, a dozen maybe fifteen twenty people, 284 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:53.000 dozen people. And recently they were like, we were talking 285 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.000 about post disclosure and I said, look, and I said 286 00:14:56.039 --> 00:14:59.000 this in an interview recently, and I and it's true, 287 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.039 and it's true, and people don't think this. When I 288 00:15:02.120 --> 00:15:05.480 was young, I thought that rich people were noble. I'm 289 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:07.720 in the kid in the trailer park, right, and so 290 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:09.799 I thought that people in order to be wealthy they 291 00:15:09.799 --> 00:15:12.879 had to be morally noble, that they were just better 292 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.960 than because I saw a lot of people morally bankrupt 293 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:19.559 in the trailer park, right, And so I assumed that 294 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:22.559 having your act together financially translated to having your act 295 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.559 together morally, And come to find out it's quite the opposite. 296 00:15:25.720 --> 00:15:29.080 Sometimes it's just people are people, and we think that 297 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:31.559 ets are the same the lens. We think that because 298 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:35.519 they have space travel that they're morally, you know, spiritually 299 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:41.200 better and they're just higher wiser, they're wiser involved. Yeah, 300 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:44.200 well they live now it's a case, but the reality 301 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:49.000 is ets their snobs, the total snobs and post disclosure. 302 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.639 Don't expect to be around in ET and not get 303 00:15:51.639 --> 00:15:53.480 snobbed when people ask me. I get asked all the 304 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:55.279 time in my Q and a's what was the gray 305 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:58.440 like when you were on Mars in school? You know, 306 00:15:58.480 --> 00:15:59.919 when you were testing? What was it? I said, he 307 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:02.840 was a complete snob. He basically insulted me every time 308 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:05.799 he ever interacted with me. They called me a micro brain. 309 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:08.440 And you know, he was a super insultant because he 310 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.759 was tied into their collective AI brain, so he was, 311 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.840 you know, smart, and he was a total snob. And 312 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:16.799 I think about it, and most of the ets I 313 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.120 met were the same way, And then I equate it 314 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:22.240 to this, like you would go, let's imagine that you're 315 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.279 on a what is it, the Red Cross, and you're 316 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.919 going to help and they contact a tribe in South 317 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:32.080 America of people that never had contact, and now you 318 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:33.480 can go down there and hang out with them and 319 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:37.080 you learn their language. Would you condescend when you say, oh, no, no, no, 320 00:16:37.120 --> 00:16:39.519 we have water, we have hot water for that. No, no, 321 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:43.000 we don't do this bacteria. You'd be super condescending to 322 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:46.600 their way of life, because you would think that our 323 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.120 technology makes you smarter, and the et is the same 324 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:52.799 way with us, do you the same relationship? Most people 325 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.240 have mastered their environment with what they've got, but they 326 00:16:56.279 --> 00:16:59.080 don't have the benefit of the science of the whole 327 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.679 globe working at it. It's it's the same man, They're 328 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:03.879 gonna be snobs stuff. 329 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:07.440 Well, and I think what you said though prior to that, 330 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.519 people are people like that. I don't think it's fair 331 00:17:10.599 --> 00:17:13.559 to use it as a blanket statement for everyone because, 332 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:18.279 like you stand that every rich person or wealthy yeah, immoral, 333 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:19.480 you know what I mean. So, like I was. 334 00:17:19.519 --> 00:17:22.799 Young, so and what I'm saying is I found out 335 00:17:22.799 --> 00:17:25.519 that there was a stark contrast that really people of 336 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:27.960 wealth that grew up in a different economical status of 337 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.279 me were just people. Yeah, they were, They were a 338 00:17:31.319 --> 00:17:33.079 lot of them are not happy. No. 339 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.759 I appreciate that perspective because it is I mean, I 340 00:17:35.799 --> 00:17:38.000 can totally see where that could be the case for 341 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:40.640 a number of groups out there, especially the ones that 342 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.119 have been working with the dark the deep state, you know, 343 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:48.480 and aligning with against humanity, not with me, against humanity. 344 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:53.400 But so I understand that you you know, your research 345 00:17:53.759 --> 00:17:58.119 has your your time in the programs researching just that 346 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.000 trying to prove your testimony led you on this remote 347 00:18:01.079 --> 00:18:04.880 viewing path. And We've talked about this on previous episodes, 348 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:07.440 but I'm wondering, you know, you guys do like weekly 349 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.079 meetups and stopping. You have all these targets. How many 350 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:14.200 targets would you say have you done off world? Have 351 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.240 you done any off world targets and gotten any real 352 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:18.039 results from that? 353 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:22.640 Dude? We did one last week for the horse on series. 354 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:24.279 I said, I wanted to know what it looked like 355 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.519 now the hangar bait, the horses for the hanger bait. 356 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.720 So I targeted that with the remote viewers and they 357 00:18:30.839 --> 00:18:33.480 explained it. It was like they came back with I 358 00:18:33.480 --> 00:18:36.160 was almost I got choked talking about crying too much, 359 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:37.640 but it choked me up. 360 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:37.880 Man. 361 00:18:38.000 --> 00:18:40.720 And when when the first remote viewer was on target, 362 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.559 when I opened up the data and the first remote 363 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.559 viewer was on target and described the hall way, the 364 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:50.519 hull and there was grass. They added grass, they added 365 00:18:50.519 --> 00:18:55.079 like an astro turf, like multiple viewers had the structure 366 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.039 and the steps with the marble, with the spinning doors, 367 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.119 you know, representative things of the spinning doors, but with 368 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:05.039 a grass element. So they ad they added grass on series. 369 00:19:05.200 --> 00:19:07.599 As far as I as far as my remote viewings look, 370 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:10.960 and I had I don't know, seven or eight viewings 371 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.799 got turned in on that target. But we don't do 372 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:17.640 space too much because it's unconfirmable. So in order to 373 00:19:17.720 --> 00:19:20.440 teach people to remote view, you want them to confirm 374 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.279 it that they got it right for that for the 375 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:26.240 the adda boy, you know, the confidence of saying, oh shit, 376 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:28.960 I got it, and that really builds that ability. The 377 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:31.680 belief in the ability to remote view is the most 378 00:19:31.720 --> 00:19:35.000 important aspect to remote view. You have to believe it, 379 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.480 and you have to believe it unconsciously, so it takes 380 00:19:37.599 --> 00:19:39.359 many times of doing it to get there. 381 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.160 Yeah, And that's a good point because I was just 382 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.079 more curious, like if you were to give somebody a 383 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.200 blind target of a planetary body or just any anything 384 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:51.799 in space, what they would come up with and you 385 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:55.000 could start to you know, formulate theories about you know, 386 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.440 what's happening here and it has this been colonized or that. 387 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:01.000 The trick is with that because you remember three everybody 388 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.839 and their brother was remote viewing that we remote viewed it. 389 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:07.279 The trick with remote viewing, an unconfirmable target is to 390 00:20:07.279 --> 00:20:11.079 have many people do it. So you know, you know, 391 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.680 remote view what's going on at the at Michigan Stadium 392 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:17.720 and people go, I see a structure, I see some grass, 393 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.599 and there's a table with a fruit basket. And then 394 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:23.960 the next person goes, I see this like a locker room, 395 00:20:24.519 --> 00:20:26.079 and but you come out this hallway and there's this 396 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:28.440 table with a fruit basket. And then I see a 397 00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:30.720 parking lot and there's a table the fruit basket. So 398 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:34.559 the fruit basket's real. In other words, like when you 399 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:37.720 get big time overlapping data over and over again on 400 00:20:37.759 --> 00:20:39.839 a target that you don't know you can't go there, 401 00:20:40.799 --> 00:20:43.279