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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>single day on your favorite podcast platform. Congressman gave Evans

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<v Speaker 1>already a star there, and he should be by flipping

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<v Speaker 1>CD eight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's the key to the GOP.

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<v Speaker 1>Majority and on top of that, very effective at what

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<v Speaker 1>he does. Congressman, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thanks for so much for taking the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, you've obviously got some pull there because now

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<v Speaker 1>you've been waved onto the House Oversight Committee, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to be part of the questioning of Mike Johnston, mayor

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<v Speaker 1>of Denver, and other Democrat mayors on the indefensible sanctuary

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<v Speaker 1>city policies.

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<v Speaker 2>So can you give us a little preview?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean just a quick level set. Under the

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<v Speaker 3>first Trump administration, we had Title forty two, which allowed

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<v Speaker 3>for a more efficient process to remove folks who had

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<v Speaker 3>recently and illegally entered the country and rescinded that you

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<v Speaker 3>had liberal leftist municipalities and states like Colorado that cheered.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you had states like Texas there right well, help

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<v Speaker 3>share the load here of this massive influx. And Denver,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than acknowledging the error of their ways, doubled down

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<v Speaker 3>and said, Nope, We're going to give all of this

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<v Speaker 3>free stuff to anybody that comes to Denver, regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>their immigration status, to the point where Denver ends up

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<v Speaker 3>having to slash millions of dollars from critical budgets, Police Department,

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Motor Vehicles, parks, and w rec You know,

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<v Speaker 3>by some estimates, over three hundred million dollars that should

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<v Speaker 3>have gone to American taxpayers were cut and diverted toward

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<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration. And now you know, Mayor Mike Johnson wants

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<v Speaker 3>to walk back his comments about you know, just from

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<v Speaker 3>a month ago about Tenneman Square type of moments where

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<v Speaker 3>he calls out the Denver Police Department to resist federal

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<v Speaker 3>agents coming into Colorado and into Denver. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>now he's trying to walk back those statements because we

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<v Speaker 3>know that we have a crime, we have a violence,

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<v Speaker 3>and we may have a gang problem. Go look at

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<v Speaker 3>the homicide rate in Denver. Denver's homicide rate in twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four was double San Francisco, and we have no

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<v Speaker 3>idea how much of that is related to illegal criminal

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<v Speaker 3>operations in Denver because Denver Police Department is not allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to ask or collect any data about the immigration status

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<v Speaker 3>of folks committing crimes in their city. That sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>a sanctuary.

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<v Speaker 4>City to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds to me like you're ready take the robe off

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<v Speaker 1>and put them in the ring.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>This man's ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that and obviously well researched, which you'll have

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<v Speaker 1>to be because of my constitutionally protected opinion. Johnston lies

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<v Speaker 1>through his teeth, like he issued a statement yesterday it

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<v Speaker 1>said the wait a second. No, all these new people,

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<v Speaker 1>he calls them newcomers, right, all these new people, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't affect course services in Denver. They didn't make this

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<v Speaker 1>place less safe. Obviously you've got the receipts. But in

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<v Speaker 1>this format, Congressman, where there's no judge and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>limited time, how do you pin them down? How do

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<v Speaker 1>you not let them fill a buster.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of it?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the judge is the best judge that we have,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the American people who are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>watching this, the people in Colorado and the people in

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<v Speaker 3>the line between the facts that we've already established and

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<v Speaker 3>some other critical facts that we know, such as after

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<v Speaker 3>defunding their police department, you know, and even before they

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<v Speaker 3>legal immigration crisis that they had manufactured, we had a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty severe gang problem in Denver. I mentioned the statistic

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<v Speaker 3>about Denver's homicide rate right now being double San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>But Loot, look at Trendy Argua. We're starting to see

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<v Speaker 3>Look at my district, for example, the raid with DEA

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<v Speaker 3>makeshift nightclub in my district. Right These things are all

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<v Speaker 3>tied to sanctuary city and state policies in Denver and trendy.

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<v Speaker 3>Aragua themselves, you know, has acknowledged this. There was some

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<v Speaker 3>and when we talk about welcoming everybody regardless of immigration status,

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<v Speaker 3>well that sounds like a really great place to go

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<v Speaker 3>and sent up an international criminal organization, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, evil's evil, it's not stupid, and it gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sanctuary means protected, it's protected here. I mean, you know, Democrats,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, they passed this law that says parole

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<v Speaker 1>probation officers. You know that they handcuff him from cooperating

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<v Speaker 1>with ice K. Have you ever figured out, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're a super super smart guy with your law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement history, why would any of these lefties ever choose

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<v Speaker 1>like that to protect people not only here illegally, not

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<v Speaker 1>the point they had to have a probation officer. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they're so determined to protect those people

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<v Speaker 1>from being deported?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, at you know, at the national level,

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<v Speaker 3>we just sent the Lake and Riley Act to the

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<v Speaker 3>President's desk, which he signed. In the law which says

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<v Speaker 3>that if somebody illegally present in the country continues to

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<v Speaker 3>commit crimes, in this case the after burglary, those people

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<v Speaker 3>need to be taken into custody and deported. We had

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<v Speaker 3>that bill in previous Congresses, and unfortunately it would never

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<v Speaker 3>go anywhere, typically along party lines. But now, after seeing

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<v Speaker 3>the results of these failed policies, the American people have

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<v Speaker 3>said enough and some of the Democrats at least are

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<v Speaker 3>smart enough to start to see that light. We had

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight Democrats vote with us to pass the Lake

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<v Speaker 3>and Riley Act, whereas just again a few short months

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<v Speaker 3>ago in the pre is Congress, you couldn't get that

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<v Speaker 3>many of them to see the lights.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and can't wait to your Hick and Looper explain

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<v Speaker 1>it in the Senate race why he voted against it.

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<v Speaker 1>But congresswoman, look at congressman, pardon me. We had Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>Boberd on in the last segment. But Congressman Gabe Evans

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to your questioning of Johnston. But now the

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<v Speaker 1>real reason I had you on today Chiefs Eagles. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do you come down on this thing?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you're gonna ask me the really hard question. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm just glad that I can watch a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more football this year because there's a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit less kneeling going on on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, amen to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And President Trump will be there, right first sitting president

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<v Speaker 1>to attend a super Bowl, and so I'm glad he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go down there. But hey, you're killing it there, man,

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<v Speaker 1>great job. Appreciate the time today, and I hope we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk. If not the day that you grill Mike

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<v Speaker 1>Johnston for lunch, I hope we can talk the next day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would love to connect. Ollys enjoy being on

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<v Speaker 3>your show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Congressman. This Congressman Gabe Evans, take care, sir, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what this is the beauty of it,

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<v Speaker 1>right is he not only wins this key swing district,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's really good at this. He's really effective and

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<v Speaker 1>when you look across the state, now, this is so

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<v Speaker 1>good for the GOP as it prepares to try to

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<v Speaker 1>win some statewide seats because you look at the guys

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<v Speaker 1>in gals who won first, they won really important races.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're also really talented, so they're not just going

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<v Speaker 1>to go there and kind of occupy a seat. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're really talented. They reflect well on the party, they

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<v Speaker 1>reflect well on the cause, and they're gonna be effective.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that doesn't guarantee you the next step,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's a real important foundation for the

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<v Speaker 1>GOP starting to win some statewide offices. You just need

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<v Speaker 1>that one, right, you need that breakthrough. But the impressive

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<v Speaker 1>people who won these seats, you know, including obviously gave Evans,

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<v Speaker 1>and their effectiveness, it just just adds to the GOP

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<v Speaker 1>credibility in Colorado. Important building block eight five five four

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<v Speaker 2>If you just joined us, thank you. What a great

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<v Speaker 2>day to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 1>We're celebrating this truly monumental you know, President Trump obviously

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<v Speaker 1>signing the EO yesterday no men in women's sports. But

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<v Speaker 1>today the big domino fell and NCAA says, right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no more men in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's going to have a very.

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<v Speaker 1>Important precedent setting value even for you know, schools outside

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<v Speaker 1>of federal government reach, et cetera. So just just a

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<v Speaker 1>truly historic day for civil rights, for women's rights, for

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<v Speaker 1>sanity in America, for religious liberty, and for confidence in

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<v Speaker 1>the system, because you know, you got a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people who voted who don't normally vote for a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's paid off for them, so they can see, Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy, these guys deliver and it makes sense to

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<v Speaker 1>go out and vote. Look at it, got something tangible

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Let's go to Dave in Lakewood wants

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the Bears. Got to remind him we're

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<v Speaker 1>on Denver Talk Radio. You're on the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 7>Welcome Dave, Dan, thanks for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's about Bears and about that FLK.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Dave, can you do me a favor since we're

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<v Speaker 1>doubling up Bears and ELK and we're right up against

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<v Speaker 1>a break?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I take you on the other side?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the other side of life, though I hope to

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<v Speaker 1>see you in heaven, but the other side of this break.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on the Dan Capla Show.

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<v Speaker 9>And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I know one tight end sleeping alone.

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<v Speaker 7>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great honor.

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<v Speaker 10>I think, you know, no matter who the.

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<v Speaker 3>President is, I'm excited because it's the biggest game of

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<v Speaker 3>my life, you know, and having the press there.

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<v Speaker 10>It's the best country in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Are Travis Kelcey excited President Trump's going to be at

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>First sitting president to attend the Super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 9>Very different reactions from his significant other versus Patrick mahomes

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<v Speaker 9>significant other, who is a noted Trump supporter.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that such a beautiful thing? So she's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to sit there and listen? I love her music. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been taking my daughter to see her shows since I

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<v Speaker 1>think since Taylor Swift started and my daughter was a

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the music.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't it going to beautiful to have to see

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna have to watch all that. That's that's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be beautiful. You're right. Mahome's happy about it too.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't see that clip, but obviously it's cool to

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait until Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to Dave so Patient in Lakewood, Davire

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<v Speaker 8>Welcome, Hey, thanks Dan. You know what's bothering me about

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<v Speaker 8>this elk is that a bear gets in a dumpster,

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<v Speaker 8>they kill it. The elks got there, no problem, It's

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<v Speaker 8>on its own. If it dies, it dies, that's life.

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<v Speaker 6>But you.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't do anything against a wolf, and all of a

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<v Speaker 8>sudden you'll find yourself in jail.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that's right, And I just can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 8>You know what I mean? When the dumpsters are full

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<v Speaker 8>and boulder and the bear gets caught and they euthimize them,

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<v Speaker 8>why don't they find a business for not having enough dumpsters?

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<v Speaker 8>We're not getting it picked. I mean, at my own job,

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<v Speaker 8>we get call in and say, hey, man, come pick

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<v Speaker 8>And is it really they could easily they could easily

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<v Speaker 8>do that, make the business and get another dumpster and

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<v Speaker 8>not have to kill bears. And I'm telling you if

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<v Speaker 8>this was a wolf out in the snow, they would

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<v Speaker 8>have spent no time and the expense, or all the

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<v Speaker 8>time and all the expense to go out there and

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<v Speaker 8>save this.

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<v Speaker 2>It should bother you, David.

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<v Speaker 1>It speaks well of you that bothers you, because it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back to the same basic principle of the left.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about what's right and wrong. It's about whether

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<v Speaker 1>you're on their side. So just like if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal in Denver, right, and you're part of a mob

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<v Speaker 1>and you're going to attack the state capitol, Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're supporting a leftist cause, well then the governor goes

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<v Speaker 1>into hiding and you're allowed to ravage the capitol and

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<v Speaker 1>he leaves it ravaged for months as.

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<v Speaker 2>A tribute to you, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're a conservative, hey, you know, you spit

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<v Speaker 2>That's a little bit of an overstatement.

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<v Speaker 1>But same thing with animals, right, and you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>with the bears, do you really have to kill him

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<v Speaker 1>when they jump into a garbage can? But with this elk,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you justify because you're right if that had

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<v Speaker 1>been as listeners pointed out, one of Jared Polus's beloved

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<v Speaker 1>wolves brought in to show even more disrespect for our

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<v Speaker 1>farmers and ranchers. If that had been a wolf stuck

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<v Speaker 1>they would have deployed swat teams and so. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got this beautiful elk essentially being tortured to death, stuck

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, at least if it's suffering like the bear.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, you didn't garbage and you euthanize it. You're

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<v Speaker 8>not going to go save the elk. Well then you know, amen,

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<v Speaker 8>it's misery for God.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, show that respect for life. Hey, great call man,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. And Ryan, you know what's interesting, It flashed

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<v Speaker 1>me back to before you got here. There was such

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<v Speaker 1>about coyotes. These coyotes were lots of places, killing lots

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<v Speaker 1>of pets, and we had Division of Wildlife saying, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do about them. You kill one ten

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<v Speaker 1>moral pop up, you know, let nature take its course.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of crap. Sorry about that. But the point is,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Live far from the station. I'd go out in my

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<v Speaker 1>our big dog, and then one took our little dog.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, my wife was not having any

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<v Speaker 2>My wife said, we're killing them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know, she she led the way and

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<v Speaker 1>I hired a sharpshooter, all this other it was all

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<v Speaker 1>She and you know, I'm trying to remember if Fitzfork

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<v Speaker 1>good and said, no, I'm not letting nature take its course.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not letting nature take our dogs. And she led

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<v Speaker 1>the way in about every morning for about three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd hear because I'm up early, and I'd hear, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, there are still the occasional kyo. But

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to have to take it out on a regular

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<v Speaker 1>basis the firearm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It got crazy, but yeah in division awhile I was

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<v Speaker 1>let nature take its course. Garbage. Yeah, no, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a suffering. We are better people than that, and this

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<v Speaker 1>government laziness just we cannot sit back and take that

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<v Speaker 1>eight five to five for zero five A two five

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<v Speaker 1>five the number. Lots of reasons to be happy today.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you check out at dan Kaplis on Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>because it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as if Norman Rockwell was a photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the most powerful pictures in presidential history.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just so well composed. It's such a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump signing the EO that gives women sports back to

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<v Speaker 1>girls and women. So check it out at dan Caplis

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<v Speaker 1>to Twitter, like it, send it somewhere else. People will

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this photo. It's really special. And then I may

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<v Speaker 1>I may tweet out tomorrow. I may tweet out a

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do that?

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you looked at that photo, but when you

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<v Speaker 1>really zoom in on these two little kids who are

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever staffer choreographed all that Isn't that? One

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<v Speaker 2>First time around, it was a zoo.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a I remember sitting in the Trump Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>one night and I'm trying to eat my burger and

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<v Speaker 1>Scaremouci's running around like some kind of true idiot moron,

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<v Speaker 2>And he was in the White House at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you got Amirosa and you got this other

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<v Speaker 2>This team. Now they have been on all cylinders. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you hear Trump?

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<v Speaker 9>I mean, he's just so like almost wistful, and he's happy,

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<v Speaker 9>he's content. And the girls and the young women they

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<v Speaker 2>He goes look at Secret Service.

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<v Speaker 9>They're worried about them.

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<v Speaker 2>They're worried about these girls. We got bigger problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about it for President Trump, Think think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It says if he was.

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<v Speaker 1>On the gallows and they had the rope around his

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the sudden, now he's the guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>not only survived it, he's the most powerful person in

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<v Speaker 1>He's the guy in the position to right wrongs. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>four years being pursued like this, being pursued like an

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<v Speaker 1>to think about what he would do with every second

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<v Speaker 1>if he got back in. And you see all this

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<v Speaker 1>great stuff he's doing. You see what he said to

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<v Speaker 1>jd Vance the other day, Fans said, he said, how

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<v Speaker 1>many days do we have left? Almost every day he asked,

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<v Speaker 9>He won and earned that support. And when somebody like

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<v Speaker 9>Al Green goes on the House floor shouting impeachment, I

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my lord, that it is a one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty Greek degree turn. And it's a great time to

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<v Speaker 1>be alive. It's a great time to be in America.

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<v Speaker 1>The American way is winning now. And so we'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back and we'll touch on some local stuff, including the

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<v Speaker 1>left up and arms. These ice rates, they should be applauding.

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<v Speaker 9>You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast. It's the

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<v Speaker 9>targeted enforcement against known individuals who we've.

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<v Speaker 2>Talked to witnesses.

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<v Speaker 3>When we've reviewed door belt camera, it seems like officers

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<v Speaker 1>To door of a number of places, which doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 5>Can you tell us how that worked and if you

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<v Speaker 2>Simply civil violators.

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<v Speaker 10>I do not know about the collateral arrests. Again, those

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<v Speaker 10>numbers are still being processed in these apartment complexes based

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<v Speaker 10>on information that we have. We do know that people

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, wait a second.

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<v Speaker 1>You say you're going in for the legals, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>going every door. Yeah, because they're not all going to

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<v Speaker 1>What a moment of high drama there, and is even

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<v Speaker 1>as law ice responded separately and even the Denver Post

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledged was true. Here, let me give you the quote

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<v Speaker 1>from ICE. Unfortunately, we have to come to the communities

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<v Speaker 1>It would be so much easier and so much safer

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do, beautifully said. So think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is Jared Polis, it is Mike Johnston. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Probation and Parole from cooperating with ICE. Think about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on the Dame Kaplish'll welcome.

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, Dan, I just wanted to say that I've interacted

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<v Speaker 5>with a lot of the folks from Colorado Parks and Wildlife,

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<v Speaker 5>and every one of them as being a consummate professional awesome,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I just I don't like the way you're

432
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<v Speaker 5>kind of painting them all as beer lazy, beercrats and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>These people work hard, they do the right thing. If

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<v Speaker 5>you look at the picture of that elk, it was

435
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<v Speaker 5>it was probably in pretty bad shape, and I bet

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<v Speaker 5>that officer knew that animal wasn't going to make it

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<v Speaker 5>no matter what they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Well wait a second, they made it twelve or thirteen hours,

439
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<v Speaker 1>buried up to its neck and snow, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>cut it up for meat and gave it to people

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, So it couldn't have been sick.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, Well, it sure looked like it was. Uh. It

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have a lot of fat on them, so it

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<v Speaker 5>was probably starving.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're right about that, Luke.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think one of the articles said it

447
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<v Speaker 1>was starving, So feed it.

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<v Speaker 5>I trust that you know, these guys know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>They're they're they're good. And I just want to defend

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<v Speaker 5>the district wildlife managers that are out there in the

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<v Speaker 5>field doing hard work every day. And you know, we've

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<v Speaker 5>got three hundred thousand elk in Colorado. Probably ten thousand

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<v Speaker 5>of them die every year. We can't be trying to

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<v Speaker 5>save every single one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for raising these points. Stay with me

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<v Speaker 1>while we take them one by one, and then please

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<v Speaker 1>say whatever's on your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>First.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of individual agents versus bureaucrats, I'm with you

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand percent. I assume that all of these individual

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<v Speaker 1>agents are wonderful. My beef is with the bureaucrats and

462
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<v Speaker 1>got into that in detail when we devoted the whole

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<v Speaker 1>show to it the other day. You know, these nonsensical

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<v Speaker 1>statements about, oh, it's better for the animal if we

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<v Speaker 1>let nature take its course. I see that as bureaucratic

466
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<v Speaker 1>laziness that doesn't reflect and I said so at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not critical of any of the individual agents involved

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of yeah, we're going to have ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>of these die a year. I don't question your numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know the numbers. But here's my point, Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of our decency as a people.

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<v Speaker 2>When we see an animal in.

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<v Speaker 1>Distress right in front of us in somebody's backyard, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's buried up to its neck and snow, it's in pain,

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<v Speaker 1>physical pain, emotional pain, it's dying, then we have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to help that one. And don't we have an

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<v Speaker 1>obligation at that point just to not watch it linger

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<v Speaker 1>for ten, twelve, fourteen, twenty hours and die a slow

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<v Speaker 1>and painful death.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree, that's that's awful to watch an animal

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<v Speaker 5>like that die like that. I just I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>that stid W has the resources to get out there.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, maybe they could have, you know, looked at

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<v Speaker 5>it and shot it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well amen, amen, my brother, if they weren't going to

486
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<v Speaker 1>save it, put it out of its misery. But just

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<v Speaker 1>respect for living things and respect for animals. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>I was so infuriated at the bureaucratic response of oh,

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<v Speaker 1>let nature take its course, we don't want to startle it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let it die a slow and painful death. And Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>as listeners have said, what do you think would have

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<v Speaker 1>happened if that was one of Jared Polus's precious predator wolves?

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<v Speaker 1>You think they just would have left it there?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean they Yeah, I think they would have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, there would have been every you would have

497
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<v Speaker 1>you'd have had helicopters brought in from out of state

498
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<v Speaker 1>to rescue that thing, give it a BackRub, feeded steaks,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, whatever, it took.

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<v Speaker 2>But Luke, you're a good man. I agree with you completely.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you the regular agent out there doing their

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<v Speaker 1>job that they're great. And my beef is with the bureaucrats. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the call, man, Okay, thank you, you take care.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you call again. Eight five five or zero

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<v Speaker 1>five eight two five five the number. This is fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>to me having been on air for give or take,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, around thirty years this topic. We devoted

509
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<v Speaker 1>the whole show to it two days ago and we

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<v Speaker 1>have not really made We haven't raised it today and

511
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<v Speaker 1>we haven't raised it often since, and people keep texting

512
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<v Speaker 1>and calling, and that reflects well on people. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the sort of thing that we should be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>John and Craig, you're on the Dane Kaplis Show.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome, good evening.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 4>Well? Background for thirty three years I was. I started

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<v Speaker 4>out as a conservation officer and then I retired as

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<v Speaker 4>a DWM.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean DWN.

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<v Speaker 4>District Wildlife manager here and I used to be the

522
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<v Speaker 4>conservation officers, game boards whatever you want to call them,

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<v Speaker 4>gotcha thirty three years I did that and as a

524
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<v Speaker 4>field person we were always past. If what like it

525
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<v Speaker 4>or not, you did it. And a lot of times

526
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<v Speaker 4>you just did it anyway to dealing with everything from

527
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<v Speaker 4>elk and snow to well like during in eighty three

528
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<v Speaker 4>eighty four, the big winter when all the elk, deer

529
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<v Speaker 4>and antelope were being fed on the Western Slope and

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<v Speaker 4>els place other places. Day in and day out, we

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<v Speaker 4>were out there feeding them, and you know, nature could

532
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<v Speaker 4>have taken its course and it have wiped out, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>three quarters of the elk and deer herds on Western Slope.

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<v Speaker 4>And there were ranchers that in the North Park area

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<v Speaker 4>that would take the stress and weak fawns and deer,

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<v Speaker 4>deer and stuff down to their barns and they would

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<v Speaker 4>feed them and how they were healthier again and turn

538
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<v Speaker 4>them loose. Wow, And that concern for the animals that

539
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<v Speaker 4>goes you know, robin, squirrels, bats, all that stuff I

540
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<v Speaker 4>got the I got to handle them and we would

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<v Speaker 4>take them to rehabers for to raise and release bear cubs,

542
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<v Speaker 4>you know, deer fawns the whole nine yards and that

543
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<v Speaker 4>elk and not knowing the details in that situation and

544
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<v Speaker 4>not seeing a picture there were elk uh numerous times

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<v Speaker 4>in different places where the w c o's or the

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<v Speaker 4>later the dwms would go out and went a snowmobile

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<v Speaker 4>and excuse me, pack a trail for it so it

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<v Speaker 4>could get out.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And if I couldn't do it, you know, perhaps you

551
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<v Speaker 4>had to kill it and put it down as you know,

552
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<v Speaker 4>being correct, politically correct. Anyway, the fella that called in it,

553
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<v Speaker 4>I didn't catch it all because I don't get to

554
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<v Speaker 4>listen all the time about the bear carcasses went a

555
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<v Speaker 4>lot of this stuff. These animals were always donated if

556
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<v Speaker 4>there were people that wanted to meet it. Used to

557
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<v Speaker 4>in the old days you could donate them to the

558
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<v Speaker 4>county food walker or something like that. But the health

559
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<v Speaker 4>rule has gotten away and you can't do that. But

560
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<v Speaker 4>there's always people that wanted any type of road kills

561
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<v Speaker 4>even and this this caring for the animals isn't just.

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<v Speaker 4>And there was a hurt. There was a dough deer

563
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<v Speaker 4>or down south or south of Wiggans and it was

564
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<v Speaker 4>killed on the road and it's fawn was standing there

565
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<v Speaker 4>next to you know, it's dead mother or in the

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<v Speaker 4>near area. And the supervisor for this area told a

567
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<v Speaker 4>grander that called in that nature will take its course

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<v Speaker 4>and let that fawn die. And I disagree with your

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<v Speaker 4>last callar that all the people in the field are

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<v Speaker 4>up the snuff. There's a lot of good ones yet,

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<v Speaker 4>but they aren't the same category or class of people

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<v Speaker 4>that were.

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<v Speaker 7>Now taking and working the butts off like you know,

574
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<v Speaker 7>they're more interested in eight to five and they're eight

575
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<v Speaker 7>hour days and something, and that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Not true with all of them. There's some really good

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<v Speaker 4>ones out there, but the bureaucracy is something else. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're hiring dwm's conservation officers, gay More District widlife manager

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<v Speaker 4>that they don't even none of them. There are some

580
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<v Speaker 4>that haven't even hundred or fished and they have to

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<v Speaker 4>teach them how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, how does that happen? And hey, John, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best calls ever. Can you hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>We have jam lines, but we're up against a break

585
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<v Speaker 1>and I want to hear you talk as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm learning a lot. Okay, Okay, Man, thank you. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>come back to our jam lines. You're on the Dan

589
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<v Speaker 2>Kapla show. Here's Tom Holman when they.

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<v Speaker 11>Come to the cross line of impediment. And that's why

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<v Speaker 11>I'm working very close starting this morning with the Department

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<v Speaker 11>of Justice and where do they cross side line of

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<v Speaker 11>impedement so they may find themselves in pair handcuffs very soon.

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<v Speaker 11>So working with DOG on that because some legal guidance

595
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<v Speaker 11>that I'm not an attorney, I know what psychops is about,

596
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<v Speaker 11>I know what crossing that line is. But getting DJ

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<v Speaker 11>back up on that. So that's something we're looking at

598
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<v Speaker 11>right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Harris.

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<v Speaker 11>We're not going to tolerate anymore. This is not a

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<v Speaker 11>game when we show up these sites.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a.

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<v Speaker 11>Dangerous job for the men and women of Ice and

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<v Speaker 11>Board Patrow and all the DOJ agencies. To have this

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<v Speaker 11>type of interference puts our office at great risk. Not

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<v Speaker 11>only are the officers, it puts the aliens at great

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<v Speaker 11>risk because anything can happen when we take our eyes

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<v Speaker 11>off the goal here. So we're addressing that immediately.

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<v Speaker 10>Today.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm addressing op sets today, operational security and how these

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<v Speaker 11>police are happening. We've already identified how this operation got leaked.

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<v Speaker 11>I'll deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Tom Homan saying in the longer version of

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<v Speaker 1>this that believes someone had leaked to trend de Arragua

615
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<v Speaker 1>gang members that the raid was about to occur before

616
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<v Speaker 1>they were going to raid in Aurora. So we'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>up on that, and as we go back to one

618
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<v Speaker 1>of the great callers in a long time. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has officially broken CNN. Here's their seven o'clock Eastern headline.

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<v Speaker 1>DOSEE teen known as quote big balls has access to

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<v Speaker 1>government systems. At that point, you have officially officially broken CNN.

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<v Speaker 2>That's their seven pm Eastern headline. Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, holy cow. Well let's go back to John. We

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<v Speaker 1>won't have time to repeat it all here. If you

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<v Speaker 1>missed the last segment, please pick it up off the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be glad you did. Just one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>compelling calls ever. John a veteran, he had been a

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<v Speaker 1>veteran in John. Was it Department of Wildlife at the

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<v Speaker 1>time or was it Parks and Wildlife?

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<v Speaker 4>No, there's no parks. It was.

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<v Speaker 3>I hired on the first year.

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<v Speaker 4>Was they separated from parks and it was Divisional Wildlife?

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<v Speaker 4>And I have to maybe correct you on part of this. Yeah,

634
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<v Speaker 4>that in those days, the Divisional Wildlife was an enterprise agency.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever they or sold in licenses or from you know,

636
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<v Speaker 4>funding from different sources. That's what you got to spend

637
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<v Speaker 4>There was no tax money from the people that actually

638
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<v Speaker 4>went into it when Parks was stuck onto it by

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<v Speaker 4>no almost said the wrong thing the governor. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>you know you've got tax stuff, and you've got people

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<v Speaker 4>that are more attuned to painting picnic tables and guarding

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<v Speaker 4>the outhhouse than they are with wildlife resources.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that I just want to let folks know, John,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason John has been kind enough to call us is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've had three days now if constant conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody wants to talk about the elk that Parks and

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<v Speaker 1>Wildlife left to die, buried up to its neck in

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<v Speaker 1>a backyard up and steamboat buried up to its neck

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<v Speaker 1>and snow. And so I've been outraged by that, so

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<v Speaker 1>of some others. But John, while we can't repeat everything

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<v Speaker 1>you said in the first segment, for those in our

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<v Speaker 1>last couple of minutes together, those who are wondering about

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<v Speaker 1>what wildlife, Parks and Wildlife should do in situations like this,

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<v Speaker 1>what they normally do, how would you summarize that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, every situation is different, and if circumstances will dictate,

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<v Speaker 4>if that somebody should have responded when I was working.

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<v Speaker 4>If you didn't respond to something like that, unless you

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<v Speaker 4>were homesick and nobody covered for you, somebody would probably

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<v Speaker 4>got written up for it. And he goes back to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, let nature take its course. In eighty three

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<v Speaker 4>eighty four, there were thousands of deer, elk and analyts

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<v Speaker 4>that were fed in Colorado farmers, ranchers and hundreds and

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<v Speaker 4>hundreds of volunteers ranch away feeds, came up and donated,

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<v Speaker 4>came up with a pellet that could be fed to

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<v Speaker 4>wildlife without killing them, and it can be taken care of.

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<v Speaker 4>But that was not nature taking its course. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a compassionate thing to do to protect the wildlife resources.

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<v Speaker 4>Every time a little bat falls out vic tree and

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<v Speaker 4>laying then the sidewalk, okay, that's nature taking its course.

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<v Speaker 4>We were tasked that we had to go pick up

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<v Speaker 4>those things and take them to a rehabber. If it

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<v Speaker 4>could not be saved, we had to dispatch it. And

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get that now. A lot of the dwms

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<v Speaker 4>they don't do that kind of stuff. They won't do it.

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<v Speaker 4>And the control efforts that used to be out there

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<v Speaker 4>with you know, looking for poachers with airplanes, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>do that anymore. Decoy operations where you put out of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff here and you get the guys blasting away at that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now they don't very there might be some I do

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<v Speaker 4>not know the whole state anymore. That was a routine

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<v Speaker 4>thing for us to protect the wildlife resource. But a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of that protecting the resource was somebody calls because

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<v Speaker 4>I've got a squirrel stuck in my chimney. We can

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<v Speaker 4>go get it now. Usually in the cities the pooch

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<v Speaker 4>patrol to take care of that stuff, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>animal control and they calling, you'd have to go get it.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a one town in Colorado where one of the

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<v Speaker 4>animal control people rescued a great blue heron and a

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<v Speaker 4>stabbing through the hand. Okay, he made the effort to

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<v Speaker 4>save this heron.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that is and what a great way er, John.

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<v Speaker 1>The music means I have to leave now, but I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you this has been one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most compelling calls I can remember in years.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for what you did over all those years.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your compassion for animals and for talking

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<v Speaker 1>to people about how it should work. Really appreciated. What

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<v Speaker 1>a great caller, Brian, tremendous job behind the glass is

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<v Speaker 1>always Kelly, you're the best and please do join us

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow on the Dan Capla Show.
