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All right, 23 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,520 let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in representing Pro 24 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,359 Football Focus. We got Max Chadwick on the my Maximus, 25 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:03,200 How are you good? 26 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: Are you doing? 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 3: Ben doing fantastic? 28 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: It's November, baby, And getting into the thick of it 29 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,680 with the College Football Playoff Committee and their rankings. Do 30 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,359 you feel like the Playoff Committee has got it right 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,200 through the first couple of weeks now, you. 32 00:01:18,159 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 5: Know, I think they're doing a solid job overall. There's 33 00:01:20,799 --> 00:01:22,799 still definitely a few things I disagree with. I don't 34 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,799 agree with their name being as high as they are. 35 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,959 I don't think they should be above other two loss teams, 36 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,719 or even BYU for that matter. I still think YU 37 00:01:29,719 --> 00:01:31,560 should be somewhere in the top ten, even with their 38 00:01:31,599 --> 00:01:34,840 loss of Texas Tech recently. So it's definitely things I 39 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:36,920 disagree with for now, but I don't think it's been 40 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,159 too egregious so far. 41 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's let's delve into that. 42 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:45,519 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, why are they so overrated right right now? 43 00:01:45,519 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: Why would you say? What where should they be? 44 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 5: Do you think I would rank them outside the top ten. 45 00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:52,840 I think this should be somewhere in the top fifteen. 46 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:54,519 But I think you look at some of the other 47 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,280 two loss teams that we have in the country and 48 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:57,040 their resumes. 49 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Texas what they've done. 50 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 5: This year is way more impressive when Notre Dame has 51 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,760 done this year. I think Oklahoma has done more than 52 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,959 Notre Dame this year. I think you can argue Vanderbilt 53 00:02:06,959 --> 00:02:09,080 has done more than Notre Dame this year, and I 54 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,639 think even I think you can argue even Miami. I 55 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,319 don't think it's done more than Notre Dame, but they 56 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,680 have beat Notre Dame, right I think the resumes are 57 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,319 are pretty similar otherwise, So maybe it'll change this weekend. 58 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,560 If Notre Dame does beat Pigs, that will be a 59 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,599 good win for Notre Dame. But I just think the 60 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,639 resume right now, Notre Name should definitely not be above 61 00:02:27,039 --> 00:02:29,639 Texas or Oklahoma in my opinion, And then you can 62 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,960 argue for Vanderbilt in Miami. Then, like I said, I 63 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,400 think BYU should be above all those schools right now too. 64 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: Who is by you, by your purview, right, by your perspective, 65 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Where should they be ranked? What type of team is 66 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,400 it's just a college football playoff team. 67 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 5: Do you think in b YU It depends, you know. 68 00:02:48,039 --> 00:02:49,759 I think right now I put them in the playoffs. 69 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:51,919 I think in my personal playoff has available at PEMA 70 00:02:52,039 --> 00:02:54,800 dot com, I had BYU as the nine seed going 71 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,280 against Oregon in the first round. So I think right 72 00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:59,280 now they should be with only one loss of the 73 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,680 year and some impressive wins over Utah obviously too. But 74 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,800 I think at the end of the year, will they 75 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,560 be that's a different question. I think if they finished 76 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,439 the year eleven and one, if they go to the 77 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:12,199 Big twelve title game, if they play Texas tecond again, 78 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,719 and if they say if they lose that game again, 79 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,479 they probably won't be in for the actual playoff committee. 80 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,280 But I might argue they should be in at eleven 81 00:03:20,319 --> 00:03:23,520 and two, but they might need to win out and 82 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,599 beat Texas Tech in the. 83 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 4: Big twelve title game in order to get into the playoffs. 84 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: Do if it's a closer game, if it's a competitive game, 85 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,840 it's some one score game, is there going to be 86 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:36,960 some stylistic human elements that could push them into the 87 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,759 playoff with a really nice showing in the Big twelve 88 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:40,479 championship game. 89 00:03:40,479 --> 00:03:41,319 Speaker 3: If that's what it comes to. 90 00:03:42,599 --> 00:03:44,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think so, I think that could definitely play 91 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:46,879 a part. You know, I don't really sometimes I just 92 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:48,599 don't know what the committee goes off of sometimes. 93 00:03:48,639 --> 00:03:49,479 Speaker 4: So I think that'll. 94 00:03:49,199 --> 00:03:51,919 Speaker 5: Definitely help, you know, obviously losing by twenty two points 95 00:03:52,199 --> 00:03:54,280 this past weekend and help eau's case. 96 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 4: At all why they drop so far in the rankings. 97 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, I definitely think if they play a close 98 00:03:58,439 --> 00:04:00,879 game in Texas Tech and the twelve title game, that 99 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,199 would help. And obviously if you beat some good teams 100 00:04:03,199 --> 00:04:05,879 like Cincinnati and TCU coming up down the stretch, that 101 00:04:05,919 --> 00:04:06,680 will help their case. 102 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 4: Two. 103 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,719 Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I think in eleven and two, 104 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:13,080 b YU can certainly probably should get in the playoffs. 105 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:14,599 But will they I don't know. 106 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's crazy times. 107 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: B YU has TCU at home, then Cincinnati on the road, 108 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,439 and USF at home. You know, what's the most troublesome 109 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,399 game there on the schedule, do you think? And uh, 110 00:04:27,639 --> 00:04:29,120 do you think they they go three and all on 111 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,800 the back half? 112 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Cincinnati game is pretty easily the 113 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:34,519 hardest game. 114 00:04:34,519 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 4: I think the. 115 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 5: TCU game should be watched this weekend. I think it's 116 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,399 gonna be a close one. I do think TCU matches 117 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,519 up well BYU in a lot of ways. So we 118 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,600 actually we preview that that game on our on our 119 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,600 show if you want to check it out. 120 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, I. 121 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:48,519 Speaker 5: Think that Cincinnati game on the road. Hopefully, hopefully I'll 122 00:04:48,519 --> 00:04:50,519 be going to that game. I do live in Cincinnati, 123 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,519 and I'll be an awesome game to go to. Uh, 124 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,519 but yeah, I think that's definitely the most dangerous one left. 125 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:57,199 Sinnati is the best team they have left for their schedule, 126 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,920 and it's as Cincinnati and both teams were kind of 127 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,240 fighting for a spot in the Big Twelve title game 128 00:05:02,319 --> 00:05:04,959 right now. So I think that is absolutely the most 129 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,439 dangerous game left for b YU. 130 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,639 Speaker 2: As far as Pro football focused rankings are concerned, Like 131 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:13,959 they're great, Like I know, this is something you guys 132 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:17,079 grade out and you compare each team to each other. 133 00:05:17,319 --> 00:05:22,079 Where does BYU grade out per PFF versus the other 134 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,319 teams of college football thus far this year? 135 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, buyu's grades at least this year, their overall greatest 136 00:05:29,959 --> 00:05:31,839 is twenty eighth in the country. 137 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: Now, some of it has to do with the schedule 138 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:34,240 they've played. 139 00:05:33,959 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 5: And how it's been a little bit harder our schedule 140 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:38,639 than say like a Toledo for example, is number nine 141 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,000 in our grading in North Texas and James Madison for 142 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,120 example too San Diego State, So there is. 143 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 4: A little bit of that. You got adjust for that. 144 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 5: But you know, just purely grading wise BYU is twenty 145 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,959 eighth in the country, and obviously they took a tumble 146 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,160 this past weekend after getting kind of dominated by Texas 147 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,079 Tech and all aspects. 148 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's interesting. 149 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 2: You know, bear Bachmeyer has graded out decently, I think 150 00:06:02,199 --> 00:06:05,639 for a true freshman quarterback. Where does he sit comparative 151 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:09,720 to other true freshman quarterbacks in college football right now? 152 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: How does he grade out? 153 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been doing really well this year. I think 154 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,759 he's still been a really good quarterback. Even if if 155 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,720 the the game I guess Texas tackle wasn't grade he's 156 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:22,680 actually still the highest graded true freshman quarterback that we 157 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,720 have in college football at seventy six point four, right 158 00:06:25,759 --> 00:06:29,680 ahead of Jaron Kalve Sunko, Polo Telly from cal and 159 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,000 then Malik Washington from from Maryland, and then Bryce Lender 160 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:35,120 was only a few points behind them too, So it's 161 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,680 definitely a lot closer than it was before the Texas 162 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,079 Tech game. But Bear Bachmeyer is still our highest graded 163 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,800 true freshman quarterback in college. 164 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,319 Speaker 4: Football right now. 165 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: Crazy BYU fans. You know they've debated this, They've gone 166 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,000 back and forth. Did they upgrade? Did they downgrade? Did 167 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,160 they stay at neutral by losing Jake Retzlov and acquiring 168 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:57,600 Bear Bachmeyer. 169 00:06:57,639 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: When you look at it, what do you see? 170 00:07:00,199 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I know Jake's supporting cast is different there 171 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,759 at Toledo, but he's played pretty well thus far. 172 00:07:06,639 --> 00:07:08,519 Speaker 3: This year as a right shirt senior. 173 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: He's a JUCO All American, He's got a lot of 174 00:07:10,519 --> 00:07:13,240 experience under his belt versus the strength of schedule. 175 00:07:13,279 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: How do you see it? 176 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Do you think b YU upgraded, downgraded, or state neutral 177 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,439 in the quarterback round? 178 00:07:18,439 --> 00:07:20,879 Speaker 5: So I think he's pretty neutral, which is ultimately probably 179 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,160 an upgrade considering how much older Jake Restoff is than 180 00:07:24,199 --> 00:07:25,000 Bear Bochmeyer. 181 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 4: Right now. 182 00:07:25,399 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 5: I think Jake has definitely played better than Bear this 183 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,160 year at Tulane, But don't I don't think I think 184 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,079 you got adjust for schedule in that too, all right. 185 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,839 I think Jake did an unbelievable job this past weekend 186 00:07:35,879 --> 00:07:38,279 against Memphis. He was maybe his best game of his 187 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:41,560 career when Tulane beat Memphis this past weekend at Memphis. 188 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,240 So but other than that, I thought last year, what 189 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,720 Jake did at BYU is pretty much the same as 190 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:49,639 what Bear is doing right now, because Jake was a 191 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:52,639 lot older than obviously Bear Bachmer was right now too, 192 00:07:52,759 --> 00:07:56,199 So I think I think BYU upgraded in a sense 193 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,600 that like, hey, you got a true freshman who's playing 194 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 very well, and you're gonna have that kid for at 195 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:03,480 least the next two years, if not three years, right, 196 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,920 So it's it's I think BYU is very happy right 197 00:08:06,959 --> 00:08:08,240 now with what they have at quarterback. 198 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:12,639 Speaker 2: Max Chadwick Pro Football Focus here on ESPN the Fan, 199 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:15,680 What topics have you guys been broaching on your show 200 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,519 recently and how can our listeners find that show? 201 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:21,839 Speaker 4: Yes, we do our preview show on Tuesday. 202 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: Like I said, the b y U TCU game is 203 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,079 one of the games, at one of the ten games 204 00:08:25,079 --> 00:08:27,839 that we previewed should be a massive, massive Week twelve 205 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:31,040 of college football. And then actually tomorrow we're going live 206 00:08:31,079 --> 00:08:34,720 on the show and giving our predictions for who will 207 00:08:34,759 --> 00:08:38,000 take every power for opening that we have in college 208 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,159 football right now too, because Obviously, it's gonna be a wild, 209 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:44,279 wild coaching carousel that we have with right now nine 210 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,559 Power four openings, maybe even more once the dominoes start 211 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,720 to fall too. So yeah, it's gonna be a wild 212 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,320 coaching carousel. So we're gonna try our best to make 213 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,480 our official predictions for who will take all those jobs tomorrow. 214 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 2: Love that you feel like, you know, like Killani, he's 215 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,039 gonna get some calls or do you think he's he's 216 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,519 there in provo for the foreseeable future? 217 00:09:06,919 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 5: You know what, I've heard his name floated out there 218 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,240 for the UCLA job. I just don't think it's an 219 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,000 upgrade at all. I know, I think the b YU 220 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,279 job is far better than CLA jobs, So that's the 221 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,159 only one I've really heard his name being floated out there. 222 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 4: So if that's the only competition. 223 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: B AU to keep Kalani Satakia, I think the Cougars 224 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,399 will be just fine and doing that, I just I 225 00:09:27,399 --> 00:09:31,279 think by using far far better job than UCLA right now. 226 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think I think it will be the 227 00:09:33,039 --> 00:09:36,039 BYU coach for the foreseeable future where you at. 228 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, obviously, conference affiliation matters these days, and 229 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,480 the big twelve and the a SEC. I was competing 230 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:46,039 for and jocking for that Power three spot. If you will, 231 00:09:46,759 --> 00:09:48,399 how many teams do you think are going to get 232 00:09:48,399 --> 00:09:52,200 into the College Football Playoff from the Big twelve the ACC. 233 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: Agency? I think one. 234 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 5: I don't know if we get multiple teams from the 235 00:09:56,759 --> 00:09:59,279 a SEC now it depends. Maybe maybe Miami can sneak 236 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,279 in as an outlaw, and maybe whoever wins the a 237 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,879 SEC will get in as the one of the conference champions. 238 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Maybe that happens, but I think the Miami needs some 239 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,039 help right now. I would say the way they're ranked 240 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,360 right now, even if they shouldn't need help in my opinion. 241 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,759 But the Big twelve is a little different. I think 242 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:16,879 Big twelve you can get probably two. I think Texas 243 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:19,799 Tech if they win, if they go eleven and one, 244 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,320 and then say say if they lose, maybe in the 245 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,559 Big twelve title game at eleven to two, they can 246 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,879 get in as that large and then whoever loses, whoever 247 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:29,120 wins that Big twelve title game, most likely either b 248 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,759 YU or Cincinnati, they probably get that spot. But yeah, 249 00:10:32,759 --> 00:10:34,399 I think that Big twelve is is in a better 250 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:35,799 spot than the Agency right now. I think the Big 251 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:38,559 twelve could get multiple teams in the playoff, whereas I 252 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:40,960 think right now at least the AEC is most likely 253 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:42,519 going to get one team in the playoffs. 254 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: Gonna be awesome to watch in these final few weeks 255 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,679 of college football. Max, As far as the Big Twelve 256 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,080 is concerned, you know where do you you know, where 257 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,120 do you see this Big twelve conference going in the 258 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,480 years to come? We see Texas Tech b YU right 259 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,519 now at the forefront, Utah still playing good football. You know, 260 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:08,120 when you combine nil, you combine the transfer portal, you 261 00:11:08,159 --> 00:11:11,679 combine what these teams are investing into their athletic departments 262 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,200 with maybe even revshare trickle down to the players. Do 263 00:11:15,279 --> 00:11:18,320 you feel like the Big twelve is properly and competitively 264 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,399 situated to really compete against and with the SEC in 265 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:22,840 Big Ten? 266 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:24,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? I think. 267 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 5: You know, they're still not going to be the one 268 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,320 of the top two conferences, but I think them in 269 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,320 the ACC will be competing for the number three spot 270 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,080 for sure. And I think there are some programs in 271 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,080 the Big twelve to be excited about. And you know, 272 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,519 now that Texas and Oklahoma are gone from that conference, 273 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,000 it's a wide open conference. You know, those two kind 274 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,200 of dominated that conference for a very long time, and 275 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,600 now that they're in the SEC, you know it's there 276 00:11:43,639 --> 00:11:46,120 for the taken now. I think one school that's very 277 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,480 well positioned to make a leap there is Texas Tech, 278 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:52,799 who is obviously investing a lot of money into their 279 00:11:52,799 --> 00:11:55,600 program right now. They have like a billionaire who played 280 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,120 football at Texas Tech. That is just, you know, funneling 281 00:11:58,159 --> 00:12:00,440 money into that program. You can see it by the 282 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,879 way they're recruiting right now. And then Bui used one 283 00:12:02,879 --> 00:12:05,120 position there too. With you've got a great coaching staff there. 284 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,960 You bring in some really highly rated recruits too, you 285 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,840 in basketball and football, honestly the agents of Bondsman basketball 286 00:12:10,879 --> 00:12:14,240 and obviously Ryder Lions and football. The five star quarterback 287 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,080 coming in in a couple of years too. 288 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think there's a lot of schools. Utah 289 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,360 should still be up there too. 290 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 5: It's a wide open conference and that probably won't change either. 291 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,679 I think the Big twelve will probably be a wide 292 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,840 open conference for a very long time now that Texas 293 00:12:27,879 --> 00:12:28,960 and Oklahoma are gone. 294 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:34,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting to see the jockeying for position even 295 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:35,639 within the Big Ten and the SUC. 296 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 3: A lot of parody. 297 00:12:36,919 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: A lot of two loss teams, even two three loss 298 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:43,320 teams in the top twenty five. Have we ever seen 299 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,159 this three loss teams in the top twenty five. 300 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems to have happened at the end of 301 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:50,399 the year usually, but they are starting to put these 302 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,440 teams earlier in the year in the top twenty five. 303 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,279 So yeah, at the end of the year, we definitely 304 00:12:54,279 --> 00:12:56,799 will get a ton of ninety three and maybe even 305 00:12:56,799 --> 00:13:00,279 eight and four teams in the top twenty five. But yeah, 306 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,480 it is a little odd that teams like Iowa are 307 00:13:02,519 --> 00:13:05,159 still in the top twenty five in my opinion too. 308 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,440 So yeah, I think there's some three lost teams that 309 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,440 I personally would rank in the top twenty five, like 310 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,360 say Illinois and Tennessee, and maybe even like an Arizona 311 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:13,440 state too, But the. 312 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: Iowa was a little a little puzzling to me. 313 00:13:16,159 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy times. 314 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:23,039 Speaker 2: Max Chadwick, PFF analysts Insider for College Football, talking to 315 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:26,720 College Football Big twelve and byu here on ESPN The Fan. 316 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: A lot of the analytics. 317 00:13:27,879 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: Love Utah, you know, margin of victory right now, they're averaging, 318 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,679 you know, kind of an absurd margin of victory, as 319 00:13:34,799 --> 00:13:37,120 is Texas Tech, but they lost the head to head 320 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:41,960 versus BYU at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. Are you feeling like, 321 00:13:42,159 --> 00:13:46,320 you know, what's the probability of Utah maybe getting ahead 322 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,080 with their remaining schedule, surpassing BYU and getting into the 323 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:51,399 Big Twelve Championship. 324 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:54,159 Speaker 4: I don't think it's likely. 325 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: I think Utah needs a lot of help to get 326 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,159 into the Big Twelve title games. Like you mentioned, the 327 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 two of Utah does, I'm sorry you still has a 328 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:05,840 tiebreaker over Utah, So that is one thing. If BYU 329 00:14:05,879 --> 00:14:08,759 lose it again, like to say Cincinnati or TCU or whoever. 330 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,200 I do not think they should below Utah in the ranking, 331 00:14:12,279 --> 00:14:13,360 but they're so close. 332 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,159 Speaker 4: Together right now that it is possible. I think Utah 333 00:14:16,279 --> 00:14:17,960 is very over ranked right now. I don't think it 334 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,360 should be. 335 00:14:18,879 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 5: I think thirteen they are in the Playoff Committee's ranking 336 00:14:21,399 --> 00:14:23,360 right now. I had them like nineteen or something like that, 337 00:14:23,399 --> 00:14:25,320 So I think it's they're over ranked right now. 338 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's gonna be a weird conversation to have. 339 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 5: If BYU does lose another game in the regular season, 340 00:14:31,559 --> 00:14:34,039 whether or not Utah jumps them. I think they might, 341 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:36,759 which I would disagree with, but that's kind of the 342 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:38,960 way the committee is shaking out to me right now. 343 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: Max, always appreciate our toime, love delving into these topics 344 00:14:44,039 --> 00:14:47,120 with you. As far as a last thing here BYU 345 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,720 football players, you know, I always like to ask this, 346 00:14:49,759 --> 00:14:53,120 who are the highest graded BYU football players through these 347 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:58,480 these nine games that they've played offensively defensively? How would 348 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,879 you great them out there at PF. 349 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's a lot of a lot of 350 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,679 good football players on b YU right now. I think 351 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,720 you look at at their defense. I think their defense 352 00:15:08,759 --> 00:15:10,440 has been pretty good this year. I think Tanner Wall 353 00:15:10,519 --> 00:15:13,240 jumps out. He is a seventy nine point seventh grade 354 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:17,039 this year. And honestly their other stafety two, Pilotasatuala, has 355 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:20,200 the seventy eighth grade this year as well. So those 356 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,600 are two to stick out defensively for BUYU. And then offensively, 357 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,759 you look at guys like Bruce Mitchell, the center for BYU. 358 00:15:27,799 --> 00:15:30,039 He's the highest graded offensive player right now for them 359 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,480 at seventy nine point six, and then L J. Morn 360 00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:36,559 and belt Barrett Bachmeyer are not too far behind them 361 00:15:36,559 --> 00:15:39,399 either with about seventy six point six grades and seventy 362 00:15:39,399 --> 00:15:42,120 six point four for Bart Bachmeyer two. So those are 363 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,759 kind of the highest grade players that we have right 364 00:15:43,759 --> 00:15:44,879 now for b YU this year. 365 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: Love it Max, We salute you, We appreciate you once again. 366 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,120 Best way to support you. What you do, how you 367 00:15:50,159 --> 00:15:51,200 do it there at PFF. 368 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I host the PFF College Football Show which 369 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,399 is on YouTube and they were good podcast. Like I said, 370 00:15:57,399 --> 00:16:00,360 we did a by U TCU preview a. 371 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:01,039 Speaker 4: Couple of days ago. 372 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 5: To go check that out and then it all lives 373 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,320 on PFF dot com, so you're gonna check that out too. 374 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,799 Speaker 3: Love it Max, Thank you so much as always, thanks 375 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:09,360 for hopping on. 376 00:16:10,519 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: Thanks guys there go that's Max Chadwick. Follow him on 377 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,080 X and check out the podcast. That segment brought to 378 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,159 you by rubies nd rubies In dot com. 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Yeah, 389 00:16:43,639 --> 00:16:44,799 maybe I will, Maybe you will. 390 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: No. 391 00:16:45,279 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 6: I just thought that was pretty interesting. Look, we know 392 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,039 about Tanner Wall follows us out to Ala, LJ. Martin, 393 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:52,720 Bear bachomar right been a name that probably doesn't get 394 00:16:52,759 --> 00:16:53,440 mentioned as much. 395 00:16:53,639 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 3: Bruce Mitchell. 396 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,399 Speaker 6: I thought that was pretty interest that Brucey is the 397 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,519 highest graded BAU offensive player. And if you go back 398 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,360 and you look at the numbers, Bruce is up there 399 00:17:01,399 --> 00:17:03,600 with the post. So I thought that really stands out. 400 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:06,480 We've had Brady Pipino on multiple times reminder to the 401 00:17:06,519 --> 00:17:09,160 fans and Bruce is playing defensive lineman in the twenty 402 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,440 twenty three season, switch back to as and Connor pay 403 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,680 he got hurt and he came in, and Bruce is 404 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:15,480 doing a phenomenal job. 405 00:17:15,519 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: Like that's an NFL lineman. Ben like Bruce gonna have 406 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,079 an opportunity to get drafted. 407 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 6: I like the way Bruce is grading out because I 408 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:23,960 know he's probably great now at a high level, probably 409 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,920 you know, with the NFL scouts as well. So I 410 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,319 just wanted to touch on that and give Bruce some 411 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,400 love because brew'ce is a big part of his offense 412 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,519 and I think he's got one more year of eligibility, 413 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:34,160 maybe two, but you need to retain him if you can. 414 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,799 Speaker 3: The tip of the spear as they call it, they're upfront. 415 00:17:38,079 --> 00:17:40,079 Speaker 2: It all starts up front, and it starts with that 416 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,559 center quarterback exchange. 417 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 3: Let's go to break, guys. 418 00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:45,559 Speaker 2: Please don't go anywhere and shout out to our sponsors 419 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:47,400 of that segment, Dental Pros if you die, as well 420 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 as Rubies in support our sponsors. 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