Speaker 1: Welcome to episode four hundred and eighteen of the West
Speaker 1: Tigers Podcast. A little bit of a different podcast tonight.
Speaker 1: You have me in the hosting chair and the only
Speaker 1: guest I have, or the only co host I have
Speaker 1: tonight is Steve Stratton, how as do and.
Speaker 2: I've been doing these for three years. I don't know
Speaker 2: whether I'm happy being called a guest, but yeah, hi Gary,
Speaker 2: nice to see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little slip of the tongue. You know that
Speaker 1: I view myself as as the start of the show.
Speaker 1: So everyone.
Speaker 2: Taking control of them. We'll suckle on you.
Speaker 1: Oprah. Well, I don't have any prizes to give away,
Speaker 1: but the boys are all out tonight. I think Eddie's
Speaker 1: done a few too many podcasts this week after his
Speaker 1: podcast with Adele earlier in the week, so well a
Speaker 1: Dylan rob Bishara, I'll have two people annoyed at me now,
Speaker 1: which I thought was a pretty good, good pod. So
Speaker 1: if you haven't had a chance to listen to that yet,
Speaker 1: make sure you go out there and listen to that.
Speaker 1: I thought, Steve, you didn't get a chance to speak
Speaker 1: about last weekend's lost to the Warriors over in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: so I thought I'd start with your one word for
Speaker 1: that game against the Warriors.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've been pretty busy. I haven't had much
Speaker 2: chance to think much all about West Tiger stuff. So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if this was read out on the
Speaker 2: pod last week, but.
Speaker 1: It probably was that I didn't listen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I'm at too. But my one word
Speaker 2: was demolished, and that we were just demolished at the ruck.
Speaker 2: We were demolished either side of the football, which simply
Speaker 2: means that when we ran the ball, we were absolutely
Speaker 2: smashed and driven backwards, and when we defended their post
Speaker 2: contacts would have been off the charts because they were
Speaker 2: making Our first contact was very weird, and they just
Speaker 2: had momentum in spades from the ruck, which is what
Speaker 2: the Warriors can do to you, and they did it
Speaker 2: to us all game and we weren't we want a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my thoughts on our ability to win that ruck
Speaker 1: area of the game. You did mention it is first contact.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's the primary area where we're letting
Speaker 1: ourselves down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our first contact has been poor. I was gonna
Speaker 2: say for most of the year, you could say for
Speaker 2: a couple of years, you know. Yeah, we just we
Speaker 2: just seen to bounce off that tackle. But even if
Speaker 2: we don't bounce off the tackle, the first contact is ineffective.
Speaker 2: You know, we might grab a hold, but we don't
Speaker 2: we don't slow the play down, or we don't stop
Speaker 2: the momentum and they're making three or four yards. And
Speaker 2: then on top of that, after that first contact, we're
Speaker 2: not putting We're not putting the big men on their backs.
Speaker 2: But if we get them to the ground, we might
Speaker 2: get them down to their knees, or we might get
Speaker 2: them they fall on their bellies and then they're up.
Speaker 2: They're up so fast, and the play the ball is quick,
Speaker 2: and then they're at it again before we've set our
Speaker 2: defensive line. And it is the basics of footy, right.
Speaker 2: If you win the ruck, you win the game nine
Speaker 2: times out of ten. And the way you win the
Speaker 2: ruck is by slowing them down and not allowing them
Speaker 2: to get momentum. But I'll mention the other side of
Speaker 2: the football to Gary, and that's their line speed. Their
Speaker 2: line speed was sensational. They came out on a mission
Speaker 2: and they beat us the punch when we had the football,
Speaker 2: or they beat us to the ad line constantly, or game,
Speaker 2: and that's why our halves were ineffective. But it's also
Speaker 2: why we didn't get any momentum through our big fellas,
Speaker 2: through the middle of the through the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: See what do you put that down to, Steve? Do
Speaker 1: you put it down to the makeup of our or
Speaker 1: are you putting it down to the effort? Because I
Speaker 1: have my thoughts around it, But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, if we're talking about if we're talking about line speed,
Speaker 2: that in a sense has nothing to do with us
Speaker 2: in that they just came out with enthusiasm and in
Speaker 2: tent and carried it through for the eighty minutes. But
Speaker 2: what we then have to be able to do is
Speaker 2: modify our game plan. Now, what I would suggest, when
Speaker 2: you've got a team that is getting up on you
Speaker 2: incredibly quickly, you've either got to match them with that
Speaker 2: speed and intensity. Either play the ball and try to
Speaker 2: get out play the ball speed quicker so that they're
Speaker 2: not set to jump the line like they were, or
Speaker 2: you've got to slow them down a little bit by
Speaker 2: putting in kicks behind the line or getting the ball
Speaker 2: out wide and beating beating their men rushing up fast
Speaker 2: and trying to get outside them. Now, we didn't We
Speaker 2: didn't have an answer to answer your question. We didn't
Speaker 2: seem to have an answer to their line speed, and
Speaker 2: we didn't seem to have a plan B or a
Speaker 2: way of diffusing what they were doing to us or
Speaker 2: coming up with a tactic that was going to overcome
Speaker 2: what they were doing to us.
Speaker 1: For these two issues that we've just spoken about. First
Speaker 1: contact and line speed to me a circular. So if
Speaker 1: you aren't winning the ruck and you're getting put on
Speaker 1: your back and you're going to slowly play the ball,
Speaker 1: that's going to allow the defense. They have quick wine
Speaker 1: speed that allows them to get up because they're already
Speaker 1: set back in defense. If you get a quick play
Speaker 1: the ball, they're on their heels and they can't get
Speaker 1: moving forward as quick.
Speaker 2: So that's exactly right. And then their line gets disrupted
Speaker 2: and they start to worry. They start to worry about
Speaker 2: their line being straight and set and ready, and they
Speaker 2: start thinking and their focus goes off that pace, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, their line speed diminishes rapidly because
Speaker 2: of that. But we didn't do it, Gary.
Speaker 1: And fast line speed also helps you win the ruck
Speaker 1: because you're getting to the ball runner before he gets
Speaker 1: his momentum up, which means you're more likely to win
Speaker 1: the tackle. So it's very circular for me. I still
Speaker 1: think the key part for us is that first contact.
Speaker 1: I think we're lacking that really big, destructive sort of
Speaker 1: ball runner, the guy that we were hoping Hunt would
Speaker 1: be a guy who can preferably start the game along
Speaker 1: with Terrell Mate, who provides that point of difference that
Speaker 1: we don't have, and I think that's something we need
Speaker 1: to look for, so.
Speaker 2: To Mate, we're missing. We're missing the good version of
Speaker 2: Royce Hunt so much this year, like we needed him
Speaker 2: so badly out there last week. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know what it is, because he has played a
Speaker 2: couple of decent games in reserve grade. Maybe he's still
Speaker 2: carrying too much weight. He's not meeting those standards that
Speaker 2: he needs to meet. Maybe because of that, the coaches
Speaker 2: are frightened that he won't punch out the minutes that
Speaker 2: they want that the bench players to be able to
Speaker 2: punch out. I don't know the answer, but we are
Speaker 2: really because we've said it all season. Terrell May does
Speaker 2: an amazing job with the amount of work he does,
Speaker 2: but he's not the guy. He's not the guy consistently
Speaker 2: to push through the line. And you know, like in
Speaker 2: my opinion, you know, Jack Bird's been coming on trying
Speaker 2: to play play. He didn't last him, but trying to
Speaker 2: play through the middle, he's not capable of doing that.
Speaker 2: That's that's not his gig. We're just missing that strong
Speaker 2: middle that's destructive and makes good post contact, mate, Can
Speaker 2: I mention the other thing, like you say, right, like
Speaker 2: the first first contact's a real problem, But the other
Speaker 2: issue with us is also wrapping the ball up and
Speaker 2: stopping the second phase play. Now, it didn't kill us,
Speaker 2: that didn't kill us on the weekend, it has in
Speaker 2: the past. But not only does our first contact have
Speaker 2: to be strong, we have to work together in unison
Speaker 2: to hold the ball runner and get your hands around
Speaker 2: the ball to stop the offload because that does untold
Speaker 2: damage to us.
Speaker 1: Which is much easier to do though, is when you're
Speaker 1: controlling the tackle. Yeah, if you don't have control of
Speaker 1: the tackle and you're struggling to get the players to
Speaker 1: the ground, which we are because we lose the first contact,
Speaker 1: it's easier for them to get their hand free. And
Speaker 1: it happens in reverse when we have the ball. When
Speaker 1: you're getting put on your back constantly and you're struggling
Speaker 1: to win the tackle, it's harder to get your arm free.
Speaker 1: It's interesting how all these things kind of tie in
Speaker 1: together to result in us really losing that ruck in
Speaker 1: the middle in that game on the weekend, Which isn't
Speaker 1: that surprising when you look at it when you have
Speaker 1: a look at that Warrior's pack, Like, the Warriors, no
Speaker 1: matter who they have on the field, are always going
Speaker 1: to have a fairly big and damaging pack.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we and historically we struggle against a big package.
Speaker 2: It doesn't doesn't necessarily have to be a mobile pack.
Speaker 2: It's just the brute strength they worry is they get
Speaker 2: on top of us. And as I said at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the pod, we don't seem to be able
Speaker 2: to find a way to combat that during the game,
Speaker 2: you know, like we should. Obviously the team knows that
Speaker 2: when when we play a team like the Warriors, we're
Speaker 2: going to be facing massive middle, a massive challenge in
Speaker 2: the middle. But when it does go against us, and
Speaker 2: when we do start to cave in the middle, we
Speaker 2: don't seem to have a way to address it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: which is a worry.
Speaker 1: I think you're just pretty well explained probably one of
Speaker 1: the main reasons why we've lost nine in a row
Speaker 1: to the Warriors. Now, did you have any other takeaways
Speaker 1: from the game.
Speaker 2: No, that's pretty much it. I got. Our first contact
Speaker 2: was Paul. I was really impressed with Adam. We have
Speaker 2: just written that down that when he went when he
Speaker 2: went in to play first receiver and the way he ran,
Speaker 2: he ran the ball and straightened the attack, like we
Speaker 2: look dangerous with him. Now, I'm really impressed with the
Speaker 2: fact that he's going to thirteen this weekend. I don't
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see him go into the harvest.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see Latu Feinhu sort of push
Speaker 2: out of position. So I'm glad we've remained with Lu
Speaker 2: and Feinhu. Having having do it in at thirteen and
Speaker 2: playing that first first receiver role is something that I
Speaker 2: think is going to help our attack. And we'll get
Speaker 2: to this ladder and I might be jumping the gun,
Speaker 2: but especially with the team we've got for this weekend,
Speaker 2: where we're going to want to give good ball and
Speaker 2: good space to our center pairing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a pretty good segue because We've
Speaker 1: got Adam Deweys multiple talking points throughout the pod. Tonight,
Speaker 1: We're going to start a game of bisol hold. We're
Speaker 1: stealing out of his game. He criticizes my games all
Speaker 1: the time, so we'll use add East tonight by sale whole.
Speaker 1: First question, Steve, Adam Dewey's future is as a ball
Speaker 1: playing lot.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to do a decle. I'm
Speaker 2: going to hold it. I'm going to hold it because
Speaker 2: I do want to see more. And my reason is
Speaker 2: pretty simple. He's as an attacking footballer. I think what
Speaker 2: he provides at Locke as a ballplayer is really good
Speaker 2: for us, really helpful. He will straighten the attack. His
Speaker 2: experience is useful for us. I think his kicking game
Speaker 2: is useful for us as well. So as a first receiver,
Speaker 2: I think he's great. He can hit the line. He
Speaker 2: is a big body, so he can play that middle
Speaker 2: role to effect I suppose, but not. You know, he
Speaker 2: wouldn't be your first choice. But the reason I'm holding
Speaker 2: it is because he's going to have to be strong
Speaker 2: defensively for eighty minutes in the middle all and I
Speaker 2: just hope he's up to that. Look I think he's capable.
Speaker 2: He's made huge improvements, I believe this year in defense
Speaker 2: that out wide, of course, So how that transfers when
Speaker 2: he's in, you know, in the middle and making more
Speaker 2: tackles and tack and tackle after tackle and effort after effort. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll just have to wait and see. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: holding it. But I'm starting to be of the opinion,
Speaker 2: and I know this is not really a question, but
Speaker 2: I'm starting to be an opinion that he probably is
Speaker 2: worth a He probably is worth another year, you know.
Speaker 1: Which was my second question. Hold anyway, No, that's fine, Steve.
Speaker 1: Even say a run sheet and you're still jumping ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can look. Look mate, I'm fifty eight,
Speaker 2: I'm tech poor mate. I can only have one thing
Speaker 2: on the screen and I've got the team sheet, so
Speaker 2: there's no way i can go. I can go backwards
Speaker 2: and forwards. So you just do your thing and I'll
Speaker 2: jump in.
Speaker 1: But for me, I have to agree with you fully, Steve.
Speaker 1: My concern is that defense. He's over the years, when defending,
Speaker 1: even in the halves, being bumped off in one on
Speaker 1: one tackles quite a number of times, front on tackles,
Speaker 1: So not about his reads, not about effort plays. I
Speaker 1: think what has impressed me about Adam Dewey this year
Speaker 1: is his increase in effort around defense. So at times
Speaker 1: I thought he's been very lazy or when he's been beaten,
Speaker 1: hasn't chased in the past, I think all those things
Speaker 1: we've seen a vast improvement on this year. We did
Speaker 1: discuss extending him on the pot on Sunday night, and
Speaker 1: I gave the opinion I needed to see a little
Speaker 1: bit more from him before I'd be offering him a contract.
Speaker 1: I need to see a couple of weeks of how
Speaker 1: he goes in that thirteen role. Because looking at next year, Steve,
Speaker 1: look at the centers that we potentially have for next season,
Speaker 1: do you see a spot for him next year?
Speaker 2: No? Not unless we have we have injuries, because you know,
Speaker 2: the Senates are starting this week in Taller and Taylor
Speaker 2: May with what we haven't seen Taylor Maine first grade yet,
Speaker 2: but what we have seen of him looks very promising.
Speaker 2: So in all likelihood they're going to be our starting centers.
Speaker 2: We're going to have Macasini knocking down the door for
Speaker 2: a first grade spot too. From if everything we've been
Speaker 2: told about him is true and correct, and so he's there.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, a guy like Adam Doing falls
Speaker 2: down the list a little bit. But what I like
Speaker 2: about him, and I don't know whether he's going to
Speaker 2: like this. This is the problem because he has been
Speaker 2: very open and up front insaaning that he sees himself
Speaker 2: as a certain type of player and that's how he
Speaker 2: wants to play. But all of a sudden, I'm starting
Speaker 2: to see a guy who actually gives us quite a
Speaker 2: lot of versatility in positions. Yeah, in around our Yeah
Speaker 2: that's sort of versatility. Sort of means that, mate, But yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fair enough. I could just see that he adds
Speaker 2: a lot because he can play a lot of positions.
Speaker 2: So if he's if he's willing to accept that that's
Speaker 2: the role he's going to play, I think he's worth
Speaker 2: hanging on to. But I don't know whether he's going
Speaker 2: to think that like he's His press conference didn't really
Speaker 2: indicate a lot of enthusiasm around that.
Speaker 1: I'd say, yeah, it's interesting that press conference. I guess
Speaker 1: at the end of it. I thought the start of
Speaker 1: it he spoke really well, But as soon as they
Speaker 1: started talking about contracts and next season he did bristle
Speaker 1: up a little bit. But I think that could probably
Speaker 1: come down two ways that he's not looking to stay
Speaker 1: or the club hasn't shown any interest towards.
Speaker 2: Him yet, yeah, or the other is he's just a
Speaker 2: good talking about it and doesn't really like the media anyway.
Speaker 2: And I think he's a pretty I think he's a
Speaker 2: fellow that gets agitated pretty quickly, so I don't think
Speaker 2: it takes much to send him off. So yeah, he
Speaker 2: just mightn't have. He might have just felt uncomfortable with
Speaker 2: the line of questioning really, so we might be reading
Speaker 2: too more into that than what there is. The bottom
Speaker 2: line for me is, you know, I want to see
Speaker 2: a little bit more, but I think I think he's
Speaker 2: worth I think he's a first grade player that could
Speaker 2: be useful for us.
Speaker 1: Okay, next question, The Jerome Law experiment at seven is over?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is yea Drome Law is definitely will definitely
Speaker 2: stay at six, like Latu Feinu is our halfback. The
Speaker 2: only time that might change is if Ladu Fan gets injured.
Speaker 2: But even then, if you bought if we had do
Speaker 2: he bought Doey, I'd played Dowey at seven. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think we have to go a step further and we
Speaker 2: have to say that the desire to be Batman experiment
Speaker 2: might be over, like I think Jerome lew. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: is a big call. It is, and it's not as
Speaker 2: negative as it sounds, right, It's not I it sounds.
Speaker 2: What I mean by it is Jerome Leui has brought
Speaker 2: so much to this club. There is absolutely no denying
Speaker 2: that he's worth every cent that he's getting at our club.
Speaker 2: With his leadership, the standards.
Speaker 1: Is just going to butt in there. Yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a fair better talk around the fan base starting to
Speaker 1: build that they're looking at that one point three million
Speaker 1: dollar contract. I'm thinking it's a little bit too much.
Speaker 1: You still think that's okay.
Speaker 2: I think to have a state of origin player in
Speaker 2: the position that he plays in the spine, that's the
Speaker 2: sort of money we're going to we're going to have
Speaker 2: to pay. It's probably the top of the scale of
Speaker 2: the money we have to pay, But I think it
Speaker 2: is the money we have to pay. And he is
Speaker 2: a million dollar plus player in my opinion for premission,
Speaker 2: but yet four premierships, that's right. But the way he's playing,
Speaker 2: and again I'll just add to it before I say
Speaker 2: that his defense, his defense this year, like you can
Speaker 2: miss a tackle, right, but he's a smaller body, right,
Speaker 2: of course you've got to miss tackles from time to time,
Speaker 2: so he can miss a tackle. But that's you know,
Speaker 2: if you look at the tackle sheet and you see
Speaker 2: three miss tackles from him or you're seeing fall off
Speaker 2: a tackle, that's not the value that he brings in defense.
Speaker 2: He's he's clean up rating defense is fantastic. Making the
Speaker 2: right tackle at the right time is spot on. He
Speaker 2: puts on a hit when it's needed to lift the team.
Speaker 2: Like defensively, he's really important to us. But his role
Speaker 2: in attack is just not working. It isn't And to
Speaker 2: say that he's going to be the leader of a
Speaker 2: game plan or the attacking structure, it's just not working
Speaker 2: out with that's his inability or whether it's poor coaching
Speaker 2: Jerome Loui this year is that in attack it just
Speaker 2: hasn't worked. Like I saw, I assume he was playing
Speaker 2: for Penrith, the way he would skip across field and
Speaker 2: then straighten up, straighten up and then throw a pass
Speaker 2: to a fast running back rower or center or having
Speaker 2: the fullback come around and chime in and give giving
Speaker 2: space to the fullback, and he did it beautifully. What
Speaker 2: he's been doing with us hasn't been working. He needs
Speaker 2: he needs to accept the fact that he's not the
Speaker 2: guy to run the team around the park, but he
Speaker 2: needs to play a running game. But he also needs
Speaker 2: to have a bit of so that he can link
Speaker 2: with his back rowers and his centers and his full
Speaker 2: back the way of course, Yeah, this stuff where he
Speaker 2: runs around, he does left, darts right and goes around
Speaker 2: the circle trying to find something there. It's just not working.
Speaker 2: It's definitely working, and he needs to modify. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that's entirely his fault or the
Speaker 2: way that the team's been coached or the combination with
Speaker 2: other players. I'm not sure, but that's what they need
Speaker 2: to work on. And he needs to find where he's
Speaker 2: most comfortable, which is running and setting up outside men,
Speaker 2: and focus on that and then I think you'll see
Speaker 2: us get the best out of him. But the thing
Speaker 2: with Benji that he has over Jerome Loi is Benji
Speaker 2: had much ability to beat a man in a variety
Speaker 2: of ways like Jerome Lay doesn't have that he doesn't.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the step that is ridiculous like Benji had.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that that turn of express pace that
Speaker 2: Benji had where he could skip out to the outside
Speaker 2: and he and he doesn't have the flamboyance in his
Speaker 2: passing game that Benji had. So he's not going to
Speaker 2: create the opportunities into the crowd as well. And we
Speaker 2: just accepted that that's what came with with Benji. So
Speaker 2: we do need to accept that with Lui playing off
Speaker 2: the cuff, there's going to be players that don't work
Speaker 2: and there's going to be times he does try to
Speaker 2: find a whole runs more and runs out of space
Speaker 2: and doesn't get anywhere. We do need to accept that,
Speaker 2: but I think he needs to work on That's why
Speaker 2: I said structuredize up footy or as a structured He
Speaker 2: has that ability to throw a beautiful, beautiful ball to
Speaker 2: a guy, put and put a man in a gap.
Speaker 2: Like you said, you say this all the time, Gary,
Speaker 2: you say you know that you can tell a good
Speaker 2: player well the way they make other players around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think that connection with Sam feyn who
Speaker 1: was starting to build quite nicely. I thought Sam was
Speaker 1: a couple of times on the weekend, starting to hit
Speaker 1: some space outside LOI and I think that's an area
Speaker 1: that they can really develop as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to We're going to miss that this weekend,
Speaker 2: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forgotten Sam wasn't playing until just then. That is
Speaker 1: a big out for us on the weekend. That's a
Speaker 1: week starting second roller partnership.
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, we've got to be We've got to be
Speaker 2: bypassing our second rods a little bit, use them in
Speaker 2: tight to hit the ball straight in the harbor. We
Speaker 2: need to be creating space going out the back and
Speaker 2: getting our centers good clean fast ball. That's what we
Speaker 2: That's what we know. That's where our attacking weapons are
Speaker 2: going to or attacking prows is going to come from.
Speaker 1: Next question, Campflown Stadium should lose all should lose all
Speaker 1: games without the funding coming through. There's recently been an
Speaker 1: extension put on for Cameltown to organize that fifty million
Speaker 1: dollars funding for upgrading Campbelltown Stadium. And you're opinion, Steve,
Speaker 1: if that funding does not come through by the end
Speaker 1: of this month, should Campbelltown Stadium lose all their game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think they should you know, we're
Speaker 2: we're in a time now where we've got to make money.
Speaker 2: We've got to look after our members, we've got to
Speaker 2: look after our sponsors, we've got to look after our corporates.
Speaker 2: And you've got to provide a stadium that's up to
Speaker 2: scratch that will allow us to do that. We've already
Speaker 2: said that at like Ard Oval, if there wasn't going
Speaker 2: to be changes there, then we'll walk away from like
Speaker 2: Hard Oval. And there are changes coming, We've got options
Speaker 2: with I'm sure Richo has already been looking into it.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm sure he's already got money to upground,
Speaker 2: upgrade Campbelltown Stadium. It's not fit for purpose, it really isn't.
Speaker 1: And I'll save you a little bit because we have
Speaker 1: got a little bit of heat from Magpie's fans over
Speaker 1: the last week, Steve, so I'll save you a little bit.
Speaker 1: What is your preference? Your preference is that they get
Speaker 1: that funding.
Speaker 2: Yet, my preference is that they get that funding. For sure.
Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent of the belief that Campbelltown is
Speaker 2: an area that the West Tigers need to invest in
Speaker 2: and be in. But there's got to be a ground
Speaker 2: fit for purpose. And Gary. Quite honestly, I couldn't give
Speaker 2: a rats. They don't like it tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't seen any of the comments anyway.
Speaker 2: No, that's right, they're all hidden behind behind their little
Speaker 2: private chat.
Speaker 1: Next question, West Tigers are a stronger club than we
Speaker 1: were twelve months ago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are. We are a stronger club and we
Speaker 2: West we're a better football team. And I know at
Speaker 2: the moment what the same number of wins as where
Speaker 2: we finished last week y, So we're eagle with that.
Speaker 2: So it hasn't been as positive as we'd hoped it
Speaker 2: would be, and I thought would be better placed on
Speaker 2: a ladder than what we are. But there's a fight
Speaker 2: in this team out there that hasn't been there for
Speaker 2: a a long long time, and we are in most
Speaker 2: games for most of the game. We still haven't put
Speaker 2: an eighty minute performance together. We're still incredibly frustrating to watch.
Speaker 2: We're still got a long way to go before we
Speaker 2: are a really good football side, but we're getting there.
Speaker 2: We are a better team than we were, and we
Speaker 2: are Roster management, even though it's slow, even though it's difficult,
Speaker 2: that have been dealt with, I believe as best they
Speaker 2: could have been. Still not there, but it's better. I've
Speaker 2: the last couple of functions I've been through with West
Speaker 2: Tigers have been absolutely outstanding. I couldn't have said that
Speaker 2: in the past. It wasn't the case. So every aspect
Speaker 2: of our club we had to go through. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: had to go through a horrible situation, but there is
Speaker 2: stability there at the moment, so you know, it's not
Speaker 2: where we wanted to been. As frustrating, I get as
Speaker 2: frustrated as anyone, but we're definitely better place than what
Speaker 2: we were twelve months ago.
Speaker 1: Daram Buller is our most important player.
Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I didn't read that one dream Bola is
Speaker 2: our most important player.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Lookok I'm going to sell that, but I'm going to
Speaker 2: say that's because I don't I don't believe in this
Speaker 2: black and white stuff where we just say he's a
Speaker 2: very important part of our future.
Speaker 1: So you're avoiding answering the question no I mentioned.
Speaker 2: It's higher order thinking, Gary, are you going to struggle
Speaker 2: to keep up? Just do your best mate right. It's
Speaker 2: important that we keep him, but it's just as important
Speaker 2: that we sign Appy right, and which hasn't been formalized yet.
Speaker 2: I don't think. You know, it's just as important that
Speaker 2: we lock down these these young guys come coming through
Speaker 2: and make sure we keep them happy. They're like it's
Speaker 2: Macasini for example, large failure. You keep them, keep them
Speaker 2: in the clubs. It's just as important that we look
Speaker 2: for a strong front rower who has impact. That's really important.
Speaker 2: So there are lots of players, and there are lots
Speaker 2: of situations at the moment around recruitment and retention that
Speaker 2: are as important as each other. He's one of them.
Speaker 1: The big thing for me, the reason I actually put
Speaker 1: this question in that is you have all the games
Speaker 1: he's missed this year, and the clunkiness of our take's
Speaker 1: been clunky all season, but I think it's been worse
Speaker 1: than the games he hasn't played.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. That's that's a
Speaker 2: good point. He as he has, he gives us a
Speaker 2: little bit of shape. You know, we tend to lack.
Speaker 2: We don't look like we've got much shape at all
Speaker 2: when he's not there. So yeah, he's very, very important
Speaker 2: in that regard. But you know, you take happy out
Speaker 2: from around the rock, can we sort of you know,
Speaker 2: don't look too flash around the middle either.
Speaker 1: And credit where credit's due. I think Taruva has been
Speaker 1: very good in that backup role as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, it's it's not his preferred position, right,
Speaker 2: I think he's doing a pretty good job all things considered. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And can I sorry, mate, Can I add with Truva
Speaker 2: going to fullback and Charlie Stains? And I think I
Speaker 2: mentioned this before, I was very critical of Charlie Stains. Jeez,
Speaker 2: he's played well since he's come back into first grade.
Speaker 2: He's really like being dynamic and he's only he hasn't
Speaker 2: been pushed back. He's you know, he's earned his keep.
Speaker 1: I feel so a question without notice. This one's not
Speaker 1: on the list, so you haven't read this one, Steve.
Speaker 1: When Buller comes back, who do you keep Skelton or
Speaker 1: stains Skelton?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in saying that, I still think Skeleton offers more defense,
Speaker 2: you know, defensively his edge because I say his edge
Speaker 2: because it's not just his fault, but his edge has
Speaker 2: been been weak. But I think that's a system thing,
Speaker 2: not just him. He does he does run in in
Speaker 2: when he shouldn't.
Speaker 1: He's made a few poor decisions.
Speaker 2: We need him, Yeah, we struggle, We struggle to make
Speaker 2: to make good yardage in at Taxa, we need him
Speaker 2: at the back start in our sets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I said on the on the Pot on
Speaker 1: Sunday night, I think Charlie stains improved yardage coming out
Speaker 1: of our own n is because we've got guys like
Speaker 1: Skelton and Taruva who were giving him a bit of
Speaker 1: a platform to use his speed on the second and
Speaker 1: third tackle of a set, and he's able to get
Speaker 1: up the field quicker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a very good point, ye.
Speaker 1: Last question, Benji Marshall will be coaching in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: Next question, I thought that would be the answer that
Speaker 1: I would get from you. We've got a number of
Speaker 1: players other than Adam Deor, who we've already spoken about
Speaker 1: off player off contract at the end of this year,
Speaker 1: a number of younger players. I just want a quick
Speaker 1: answer on these one Steve on whether you would resign
Speaker 1: any of those we've got. For Tarpe, who is already
Speaker 1: in negotiations overseas, I don't think he's signed anywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, well, if he's in negotiation ever seas, that
Speaker 2: would that.
Speaker 1: Pretty deep in the centers now though. Yeah. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a true strange one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is true. Yeah, No, you're right. You're right,
Speaker 2: there's probably no no room for him.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's the same for Filidi as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I've never seen him show. I've
Speaker 2: never seen Filordi show or anything. Yeah, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: he's not a good football, but I haven't seen it,
Speaker 2: madam or No. Yeah, that's interesting because I was just
Speaker 2: looking at that when you mentioned for Tarpa and getting
Speaker 2: deep in the center of for Tarpe or Nayden. I'd
Speaker 2: probably go for Tarpe, I'd probably Yeah, I think that
Speaker 2: that there's something I don't know. I've just watched him.
Speaker 2: Probably he's not winding down yet, but he's heading towards that.
Speaker 2: I think there's more upside long term with for Tape.
Speaker 2: So I've had to keep one of them. I begin
Speaker 2: for Tape. So that says that Brent Naden's.
Speaker 1: So my opinion is that either of these guys, if
Speaker 1: you resign them, they're going to really spending most of
Speaker 1: their season in New sou File's Cup. And I think
Speaker 1: the experience that Nayden has at that level and his
Speaker 1: ability to play multiple positions at that level, I think
Speaker 1: he's a better fit for playing at the new South
Speaker 1: Files Cup level than for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd agree with that. I suppose it's it's what
Speaker 2: what are you looking for? Are you looking for an
Speaker 2: experienced campaigner to sit to sit back there in reserve
Speaker 2: grade and help the young guys come through and and
Speaker 2: Brent Naden ticksbox is there? Or are you looking to
Speaker 2: bolster your future and in the hope of bringing on
Speaker 2: future first graders And then then for me it would
Speaker 2: be for Tarpe. But I take your point.
Speaker 1: Charlie Stain Steve.
Speaker 2: Who we got in the wing. I think he's I
Speaker 2: think he's enough. I think Charlie stays, Saint stays as
Speaker 2: long as he knows willing to accept that and fight
Speaker 2: and try to know that he's going to have to
Speaker 2: really fight hard for.
Speaker 1: His Yeah, an excellent guy to have. I think he's
Speaker 1: shown the last last couple of weeks, well last couple
Speaker 1: of months with Skeleton being out for a while as
Speaker 1: well what he can add to the team when he
Speaker 1: does get called upon. So yeah, I'd be looking to
Speaker 1: keep him as well.
Speaker 2: So as you can ask you, Gary, just just just
Speaker 2: a curve on the host. Yeah, let's say let's say, Macsini,
Speaker 2: you have a conversation with ma Cassini and say, you know,
Speaker 2: we might put you on the wing. See how you
Speaker 2: go on the wing. If that was the case and
Speaker 2: you could, you could do that, and that means you
Speaker 2: had to get rid of Charlie Stains. Would you do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I actually think Macasine is an ad and out
Speaker 1: center his ability to beat a man and set up
Speaker 1: his winger on the outside. I think it's too valuable
Speaker 1: to play him on the wing. I haven't seen him
Speaker 1: play on the wing, and maybe he can go make
Speaker 1: a fist of it, but I think his attributes are
Speaker 1: much better suited to playing in the centers. It actually
Speaker 1: brings us like he was a by cell hold that
Speaker 1: I actually threw out, so I might as well chuck
Speaker 1: it at you. Now that you've mentioned Makassini, would you
Speaker 1: play him this year, Steve.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't, absolutely not. I think we're seeing and
Speaker 2: when we give them too much ego. I think we
Speaker 2: have to be strong with these guys. I think we
Speaker 2: have to say, by your time a little bit, learn
Speaker 2: your trade, prove yourself, and then bring them through. Now
Speaker 2: I know there's going to be enough sort of thinking.
Speaker 2: But I believe that we're doing these guys a disservice
Speaker 2: when we bring him through the minute they turn eight
Speaker 2: a well, look at look at what's happening. It's not
Speaker 2: working for us. So no, not not this year. We're
Speaker 2: not We're not going to be making the eight this year.
Speaker 2: There's no reason to bring him through. Let him develop,
Speaker 2: let him get a taste of what it's like playing
Speaker 2: all aged footy in cup, and then see where he's
Speaker 2: at the beginning in the off season and preseason.
Speaker 1: He's played one and a half games against men at
Speaker 1: this point of his career. Stude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So with that mindset, but you have Trician Hope who's
Speaker 1: playing hooker at the moment, we have Hayward coming through,
Speaker 1: who is tauted as the guy who's eventually now going
Speaker 1: to replace Happy. Are you looking at bringing someone in
Speaker 1: over him or keeping Tristian Hope for next season to
Speaker 1: give Hayward more time as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it all depends how they want to use appy,
Speaker 2: I suppose, and Benji has shown that he's not adverse
Speaker 2: to play an appy eighty minutes when he needs.
Speaker 1: To play eighty minutes every week.
Speaker 2: Mate, No, he can't, I agree, but when he needs to,
Speaker 2: he does.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That's what what's happened over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2: Just in Hope. He's holding his own probably in the
Speaker 2: last couple probably a little better than I thought he would.
Speaker 2: So I think he can do a job. No, I don't.
Speaker 2: When you look at our priorities, I don't think that's
Speaker 2: a priority. I think you know, we've got Happy, We've
Speaker 2: got him for the young fella coming through. I think
Speaker 2: we stick to that plan and we look at recruitment,
Speaker 2: recruiting in other areas that are more more vital for us,
Speaker 2: in most particular front row forward.
Speaker 1: So you see Hope playing a bigger role.
Speaker 2: Next year, I think I think he can. He's not
Speaker 2: the best option we put our utility in at fourteen,
Speaker 2: then I'm not not adverse to that as well, and
Speaker 2: that that might be. That might be where you know
Speaker 2: we're looking at Adam doing depending on what happens.
Speaker 1: Trician Hope. I see him as a guy that you're
Speaker 1: bringing him on. You're notring him on because he's going
Speaker 1: to break a game open. You're not bringing him on
Speaker 1: because he's really strong in defense. He has decent service
Speaker 1: so you're bringing him on to do exactly what you
Speaker 1: said he's doing at the moment, is he'll do a job.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be a key contributor to you
Speaker 1: winning many games. He's not going to be a guy
Speaker 1: who goes out there and goes against tiring forwards and
Speaker 1: makes two or three breaks and brings you back into
Speaker 1: a game or lads you pull away from the opposition.
Speaker 1: His role on the team is the Giveappy a break,
Speaker 1: and that's that. I would like a little bit more
Speaker 1: of someone who's a bit more dynamic in that fourteen role.
Speaker 1: If we're looking at having someone play that role, and
Speaker 1: I think there should be someone there most weeks.
Speaker 2: So is he contracted for next year?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I'd have to Actually, did you
Speaker 1: get an extension recently?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, because that that could change that work
Speaker 2: does change my thought sign But because what I just
Speaker 2: said then was if that's who we've already we've already
Speaker 2: got Happy, we've already got him, we've already got young fella,
Speaker 2: then that's that's what I wouldn't be adding to that.
Speaker 2: But if we're going to if Tristan Hope doesn't have
Speaker 2: a contract, I wouldn't be adverse to going out to
Speaker 2: market to see what's add more to the hooking role
Speaker 2: than I'm all for that, But I'm saying to me,
Speaker 2: is enough. We don't want to be adding to that.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes really good sense to me, Steve. He
Speaker 1: is actually off contract at the end of this year
Speaker 1: according to Zero Tackle. Right, looked it up while you
Speaker 1: just spoke. So yeah, it's probably a position we could
Speaker 1: look at film. Is that backup?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could that, we could look, but you got
Speaker 2: to you know, you've got to find the right guy.
Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to the game on Sunday. Exciting day.
Speaker 1: Get to go back out to Lighthart. There's actually more
Speaker 1: than one game of football line because the NRLW is
Speaker 1: on beforehand, so at least after noon of football or
Speaker 1: starting at midday anyway, out like I'd over looking forward
Speaker 1: to getting out there too.
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait, can't wait to get
Speaker 2: out there and we out there to watch the NRLW,
Speaker 2: then watch the first grade. I'm really confident we can
Speaker 2: get a win with the men anyway. Who are the
Speaker 2: girls playing, mate? You know who they play?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I haven't had a walk, So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know they're Yeah, they're trying hard, the girls, but
Speaker 2: they're struggling a little bit. But I definitely think we've
Speaker 2: got a good chance with the men are getting a win,
Speaker 2: so it could be a good afternoon out there.
Speaker 1: So come up against the Gold Coast Titans. Are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on their style of play and the danger players?
Speaker 2: Look, well, they're come and last for a reason, right,
Speaker 2: They're very inconsistent. So the first thing I'd be saying
Speaker 2: to have seen this week is improve your discipline, cut
Speaker 2: your error.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We've got Ashley Klein in the bunker again, right eighty
Speaker 2: minutes now, If you do that, they have shown all
Speaker 2: season now in saying that every team in this competition
Speaker 2: can win on their day, and they have the capability
Speaker 2: of beating this, that's for sure. I think we've got
Speaker 2: to We talked about this earlier as far in reference
Speaker 2: to the Warriors, I think we've got to really go
Speaker 2: out there with an intent to have quick line speed
Speaker 2: in defense. We've got to get up on the They're
Speaker 2: five eight and a half back in four and Jaden Campbell,
Speaker 2: Jaden Campbell will rip us to shreds if we give
Speaker 2: him time and space.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: If we turn him back inside right, we'll cut down
Speaker 2: the effect that he could have on a game. But
Speaker 2: the other thing, the other reason we've got to have
Speaker 2: amazing line speed is we've got to stop Tino playing
Speaker 2: lock and we've got to stop David for Feeder when
Speaker 2: he comes on off the bench, because we've shown, like
Speaker 2: I go back to that South's game. I can't remember
Speaker 2: who it was, they just had one player, one one
Speaker 2: with the front rower.
Speaker 1: Who just prop forward. Yeah, the rest of.
Speaker 2: The rest of the pack we handled really well, but
Speaker 2: this one he just tore us to shreds. And the said, now,
Speaker 2: if we let Tino and if we let Dave for
Speaker 2: Feeder get momentum and beat us at the defensive line
Speaker 2: and get post contacts and get the ball away, we'll
Speaker 2: struggle because we don't need the whole pack to do it.
Speaker 2: I think we match up pretty well across the park,
Speaker 2: but those two guys, if they're given room, we'll see something.
Speaker 1: I say it coming down to two things for the
Speaker 1: Gold Coast against Us is they have two components that
Speaker 1: we never match up well. They have big forwards with
Speaker 1: a bit of mobility, a bit of speed who run
Speaker 1: the ball hard. We never handle that well. And they
Speaker 1: have some classy, speedy outside backs and in the halves
Speaker 1: with Campbell playing in the halves. So they are two
Speaker 1: key points that I think we need to be really
Speaker 1: aware of on the weekend. They We need to game
Speaker 1: plan for that because their two attributes to teams that
Speaker 1: we never do well against.
Speaker 2: No, we don't know, especially the big, big forward pack.
Speaker 2: But the other thing I mentioned that we turn to
Speaker 2: struggle against the Titans, and that's Kieran four in his
Speaker 2: kicking game here and four and usually kicks us off
Speaker 2: the park, and from memory, I'm thinking it's more his
Speaker 2: short kicking game in the goal line. You know, we've
Speaker 2: got to be aware of that. You know, we must
Speaker 2: be aware of his prowess with his short kicking game
Speaker 2: and get up on him fast, give him time to
Speaker 2: think and get his kick in. And that goes to
Speaker 2: that saying for long and short, but particularly a short
Speaker 2: kening game because he usually has a game out of
Speaker 2: the box in that regard.
Speaker 1: And I think Luai shortking game's being pretty good this season,
Speaker 1: and it was pretty good in the State of Origin
Speaker 1: as well. But I think we are being let down
Speaker 1: a little bit by a long kicking game. I thought
Speaker 1: though Adam Dewey playing in the halves last week added
Speaker 1: to that. It's an extra responsibility for the thirteen role,
Speaker 1: but there's an opportunity there for him to do a
Speaker 1: little bit of long kicking as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're out of that seventeen. He's the
Speaker 2: best downfield kicker we've got on the field, so we've
Speaker 2: got to use that. I think. Yeah, Look, as far
Speaker 2: as how do we attack the times, I haven't lost
Speaker 2: some enough to sort of pinpoint areas of weakness in
Speaker 2: their defensive line really, but I think we just need
Speaker 2: to focus on ourselves. We've got to we've just got
Speaker 2: to play with one. We've got to win the ruck.
Speaker 2: We've got to try to get fast play the ball.
Speaker 2: We're going to try to land on our stomach so
Speaker 2: we can get up dynamic centers out in one hour
Speaker 2: on each edge. We've got to get good ball to them,
Speaker 2: you know, And so that means our halves need to
Speaker 2: get fastball. But if they're going to run them into
Speaker 2: straighten and then pass out so that we don't run
Speaker 2: those centers out of space. Because we've seen what Stafford
Speaker 2: Tower can do when he gets an inch of room,
Speaker 2: he's really dangerous. And that's what I saw. I didn't
Speaker 2: see a lot, but just from the highlights, he ran
Speaker 2: a couple of beautiful outside in lines right, So I imagine
Speaker 2: they've been practicing them and we've got the ability to
Speaker 2: score points out there.
Speaker 1: And interesting, speaking about both our centers, I think that
Speaker 1: guys who who play well with early ball. Stafford Tower
Speaker 1: plays his best football when you're getting the ball early
Speaker 1: and he's able to use that left hand fan and
Speaker 1: then draw the wing are in to set up a
Speaker 1: Taruver on the outside will be stains this week, but
Speaker 1: it has been Taruva on the outside. Taylor Mazer guy,
Speaker 1: I think will benefit from early ball as well because
Speaker 1: he's got that nice footwork. You can't need a hole,
Speaker 1: but I think he's got some really good footwork. We
Speaker 1: should be able to take advantage off as well.
Speaker 2: And like this is Taruver's third week back and sort
Speaker 2: of be there scooting through the middle. But I'd like
Speaker 2: to see him, you know, playing, you know, like during
Speaker 2: Buller plays a little bit and trying to get some
Speaker 2: shape out back row is going through as decoys and
Speaker 2: getting our halves linking with Taruver Caroaren who can then
Speaker 2: link to one of the centers. You know that there's possibility,
Speaker 2: you know, of good yardage out there.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I don't know if he's got that
Speaker 1: in his game yet. It'll be interesting to see if
Speaker 1: he can add it. I think that's why he he
Speaker 1: is a very different style fallback to what dream Buller is.
Speaker 1: Dream Buller's almost plays as as an extra ballplayer, whereas
Speaker 1: Taruva I don't think he has those ball skills, so
Speaker 1: he's playing a lot more through the middle.
Speaker 2: The thing that worries me is the bench, Like like
Speaker 2: we know and again to do great things when they
Speaker 2: come on, but I really wish one of them, probably
Speaker 2: Feinhu was starting rather than been on the bench. And
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about Jack Bert. Jack Bird has not been
Speaker 2: playing good football. I really liked what Jack Burb was
Speaker 2: doing early in the season. Last week it was terrible.
Speaker 2: Everyone can have a bad game, that's that's forgivable, but
Speaker 2: he seems to have lost lost his form as the
Speaker 2: year has gone on.
Speaker 1: He'spent a third bit of time last weekend in the
Speaker 1: center Steve, and I think his time as the center's over.
Speaker 2: Probably probably I imagine unless he has to play play
Speaker 2: in the middle. I'm not sure that's I'm not sure
Speaker 2: that's his spot either.
Speaker 1: You spoke earlier about a's needing the straight in the attack,
Speaker 1: especially our has. What do you think Adam Dow he
Speaker 1: brings to our side in that regard.
Speaker 2: I think to two things he's going to give. He's
Speaker 2: going to push Jerome, Lawyer Jerome and La too wider.
Speaker 2: That that's the most obvious one. So having pushes out
Speaker 2: those guys a little bit wider, a little bit deeper,
Speaker 2: and it gives them room and allows us the ball
Speaker 2: play too wide of the rock, right, so off off
Speaker 2: to their third you know, their third defender attacking their
Speaker 2: third defender. So there's that. But also he's got he's
Speaker 2: got an innate ability now seemingly to know to know
Speaker 2: when to run across field, like I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is. When he's out in the centers, he doesn't
Speaker 2: seem to be able to pass the ball at all
Speaker 2: all the way. So I think when he does that,
Speaker 2: what it does I mentioned this before, and straighten up
Speaker 2: as well, So in effect it straightens the whole straightens
Speaker 2: the whole attacking movement. So that's that's definitely what it brings.
Speaker 2: But it brings an had to take him and if
Speaker 2: he passes, we's got to make sure he hasn't come
Speaker 2: into early, which would create a gap.
Speaker 1: So having a look Sunday afternoon, game's over, what do
Speaker 1: you think what's the result going to be, Steve, We're
Speaker 1: going to get up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we are with this one, and I
Speaker 2: think we're going to win it pretty comfortably and.
Speaker 1: Get sacked next week.
Speaker 2: He does.
Speaker 1: Sack straight away. Apologies to YACHTI. We've run out of time.
Speaker 1: I've got foot you tonight. We've run out of time
Speaker 1: for Yochty Squeeze this week, so we'll get that back
Speaker 1: in next week. I'd also like to apologize that Eddie.
Speaker 1: We've had him in the green room wade him to
Speaker 1: come on or show, and we've run out of time
Speaker 1: to get Eddie on the deck.
Speaker 2: And Joel and Nick are sitting there as well.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I just kicked them out of the
Speaker 1: green room as well, so they had no chance of
Speaker 1: coming on. Thanks for joining me tonight, Steve, Thank you,
Speaker 1: and thank you everyone for listening Sunday night. We'll have
Speaker 1: another pot of Game Day pod coming out after the game,
Speaker 1: so make sure you look out for that. That should
Speaker 1: drop sometime on Monday morning, so speak to you all
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Have a good weekend.
Speaker 2: Jees eye Dad