Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning.
Speaker 2: It's expo and conference season. As you know, we like
Speaker 2: to support the conferences and they're kind of fun. If
Speaker 2: you've been listening to the podcast over the years, we've
Speaker 2: had excellent people Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, people that are
Speaker 2: up and around and doing good research work. Robert Shock.
Speaker 2: The list goes on and on on, and you know,
Speaker 2: the setting for a lot of conferences is perfect because
Speaker 2: you can capture a group of people that are focused
Speaker 2: on a single topic or multiple topics, can get him
Speaker 2: under one roof and talk with him. So it's a
Speaker 2: great deal of fun. Hey, this is Cliff, your host.
Speaker 2: I'm a former program director and that's also why I'm
Speaker 2: very big on supporting conferences because, hey, I love doing it.
Speaker 2: I love meeting new people. And when you get a
Speaker 2: bunch of brainy types under one roof, you can really
Speaker 2: excel your learning and you can excel your understanding of
Speaker 2: a topic, and it's a lot of fun and so
Speaker 2: I enjoy conferences. So today's program is regarding the New
Speaker 2: Living Expo, which is scheduled for the San Francisco Bay
Speaker 2: area San Rafel specifically the San Refel Conference Center right
Speaker 2: off the freeway, right off the one on one, April seventeenth, eighteenth,
Speaker 2: and nineteen. That's April. That's Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and
Speaker 2: there's over one hundred and fifty exhibiters. There's special rooms
Speaker 2: where you can experience different kinds of light, sound, smell,
Speaker 2: everything in between. There's a panel discussions, there's lectures and workshops.
Speaker 2: Yours truly is doing a talk on my pyramid science.
Speaker 2: That's going to be speaking on Friday at three pm.
Speaker 2: And then I am moderating a panel discussion on ancient
Speaker 2: civilizations what I call the signatures or the calling cards
Speaker 2: of those people who built those different civilizations, some known,
Speaker 2: some unknown, and that'll be at eight o'clock. If you
Speaker 2: go to New Living Expo and look up speakers and panels,
Speaker 2: you'll see exactly where they are. Hey, if you're there,
Speaker 2: stop by and say hi, I love to meet you,
Speaker 2: love to hear what you're all about. And so that
Speaker 2: is the New Living Expo again April seventeen, eighteen to
Speaker 2: nineteenth at the San Rafel Conference Center in northern California. Hey,
Speaker 2: I want to mention that I am still actively engaged
Speaker 2: in writing this book called the Maya Controversy. But I
Speaker 2: took some time to write an article for Ancient Origins
Speaker 2: magazine and you might want to check it out. It's
Speaker 2: called the Colossus of Ramsey's a Second at Memphis. It's
Speaker 2: not simply a sculpture. It is a masterclass in controlled
Speaker 2: light and engineering. This is some new study that I've
Speaker 2: been working with as well as some university archaeologists in
Speaker 2: analyzing old World I should say Old Kingdom, I should
Speaker 2: say new media, New Middle and Old Kingdom sculpture and
Speaker 2: seeing what comes up now. They're looking at it for
Speaker 2: the various tool marks and the type of stone work
Speaker 2: that was done. And what I've come up with just
Speaker 2: in the last few weeks is kind of remarkable in
Speaker 2: producing excellent prompts that extract data scans from artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: And what I'm finding is people like Ramsey's a Second,
Speaker 2: we're putting in his Cartouchean sculptures that are very early.
Speaker 2: They're not even Old Kingdom, they're likely pre dynastic sculptures.
Speaker 2: The big one, and this is the one that's featured
Speaker 2: in the Facebook article, is the Ramsey two at Memphis, Egypt.
Speaker 2: And the one that I am just fascinated with that
Speaker 2: thing goes way way back in the reason that it's
Speaker 2: so magnificent is that it's not cut And this is
Speaker 2: my original thinking. It's not cut from machine, it's cut
Speaker 2: by he was. But the level of accuracy and elegance
Speaker 2: is from an artisan group that is cut off the planet.
Speaker 2: And when I say that they're not aliens, they're just
Speaker 2: so skilled and and the tools that they use are
Speaker 2: so unusual that they reproduce this monster. And I'm thinking
Speaker 2: that it's kind of have to lead into a book
Speaker 2: because there's no place else in the world than Egypt
Speaker 2: that has use what they call colossi, these huge, huge,
Speaker 2: in some cases five eight one thousand ton stone sculptures
Speaker 2: that are just can you imagine, you guys can't imagine.
Speaker 2: If you go to the Facebook page, you can see
Speaker 2: me standing next to a couple of these colossi. They're
Speaker 2: thirty feet tall. And so read the article, let me
Speaker 2: know what you think. And these are articles I'm going
Speaker 2: to start generating more frequently because I got to get
Speaker 2: it out of my system. I'm going to artist people
Speaker 2: and I write now. I was trained as an illustrator
Speaker 2: and a painter and I was an art director for
Speaker 2: magazine for years. But if you're an artist, you got
Speaker 2: to get it out of your system. You got you
Speaker 2: hear the muse, the same the whispers in your ear,
Speaker 2: and you have to deliver. And I'm delivering in articles
Speaker 2: because I relief, I release it, I get it out
Speaker 2: of my system. So anyhow, check out this article, let
Speaker 2: me know what you think. And more importantly, look at
Speaker 2: the illustration generated from AI. It's called the Colossus of
Speaker 2: Ramsay's a second in Memphis, Power and Repose and the
Speaker 2: Engineering of Immortality, and this sculpture is just one for
Speaker 2: the books. And you know, no matter what they say,
Speaker 2: and I don't fight with archaeologists or Egyptologists anymore. I
Speaker 2: just go look a little closer. People. This is nothing
Speaker 2: by the Old Kingdom or the New Kingdom or the
Speaker 2: Middle Kingdom. They just didn't have the skills. And there's
Speaker 2: no way in hell they use copper chisels. They use
Speaker 2: some kind of steel likely or some of the technology.
Speaker 2: So anyhow, real fun to do that, and you're going
Speaker 2: to see more of it in the future. So anyhow,
Speaker 2: today's program is the New Living Expo, and we have
Speaker 2: not only an opening with Neil gar the producer owner.
Speaker 2: We have Mariah Miller who is a life coach, but
Speaker 2: really she's good to talk to. But the real sweet
Speaker 2: spot is a et experiencer experiencer named Lily Nova, who
Speaker 2: really is very very open. She's young, and she has
Speaker 2: had a very interesting level of experiences with extraterrestrials and
Speaker 2: I think you'll like the interview. So that's our program.
Speaker 2: Destiny is a big advocate of conferences and events and
Speaker 2: we got a good one coming up this year. It's
Speaker 2: the new Living Expo. I actually used to be a
Speaker 2: regular contributor to that program until about a year ago.
Speaker 2: And at that time, I should say yeah, about a
Speaker 2: year ago, the Expo was purchased and transferred to Neil Garr,
Speaker 2: who was the new producer owner. And we want to
Speaker 2: have Neil on the program to talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about his vision, his hopes and desires for this new conference.
Speaker 2: And it's not a small undertaking. Whenever you take program
Speaker 2: of this side, guys, it's a big challenge. So Neil,
Speaker 2: welcome to Destiny, looking forward to being a part of
Speaker 2: the Expo, and we want to hear a little bit
Speaker 2: about it. So how are you today.
Speaker 3: Doing good man. It's good to be here with the Cliff.
Speaker 3: I'm really happy that you're going to be a part
Speaker 3: of this event. And yeah, I can get right into it.
Speaker 3: You want me to talk about you know why I
Speaker 3: took it over.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk real quickly, because I've, as you know,
Speaker 2: I was the program director for the early before it
Speaker 2: morphed into New Living Expo Whole Life Expo. It's a
Speaker 2: big deal. I mean, you got so many moving parts.
Speaker 2: It's a big expense and oh my god, I can't
Speaker 2: ask you so why why take it over? Neil? What
Speaker 2: was your motivation for for deciding you want to take
Speaker 2: it over?
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so first, you know, I created a lot
Speaker 3: of events throughout the year. Anyway, so I have an
Speaker 3: event production company. I've kind of created a turnkey solution
Speaker 3: for creating events. It doesn't take me too often now
Speaker 3: to create online conferences or even live events because I'm
Speaker 3: systems my team and everything. So I already felt like,
Speaker 3: you know, I already had the foundation for it. And
Speaker 3: what happened was I was at the expo speaking last May,
Speaker 3: and when I was walking out of the expo, I
Speaker 3: was walking out with my good friend Deborah juicy and
Speaker 3: she walk into her car right and Deborah goes, did
Speaker 3: you know the expo was for sale? Well? What I'm
Speaker 3: more interesting? And I did not think I was going
Speaker 3: to purchase it. And I was jokingly said to her,
Speaker 3: I want to buy it. I was kind of joking around,
Speaker 3: and she said, call Kenny and call Kennon ask him.
Speaker 3: So I went back to my where I was lotting
Speaker 3: at I gave him a call, s put to him
Speaker 3: and his wife, and then we just started going back
Speaker 3: and forth and with the conversation on what that looks like,
Speaker 3: starting the due diligence, checking out all the you know,
Speaker 3: the history, all the things that you need to do
Speaker 3: to acquire company. And we did that for a good
Speaker 3: few months. But the first after the first conversation, Ken
Speaker 3: and his wife basically said, you know, we have someone
Speaker 3: else that wants this expo, but we rather have you
Speaker 3: taken on because it seems like you actually got a
Speaker 3: vision for it to move into the future. Not only
Speaker 3: do you have it, do I have a team of
Speaker 3: people that can really hit the road running, but also
Speaker 3: we're not going to do this for you know, some
Speaker 3: people they just think like, oh, this thing makes money,
Speaker 3: so it's a no brainer. Let me take it on
Speaker 3: and then I can continue generating income for me. It
Speaker 3: was more than that. It was about the mission, and
Speaker 3: it's also about the history and the legacy. And I'm
Speaker 3: really into stories, and you are too, because you're into
Speaker 3: ancient history, you know. So I'm really into like stories
Speaker 3: of things and legacy and the whole history of you know,
Speaker 3: like the hippie movement in the Bay Area, Whole Life magazine,
Speaker 3: the Whole Life Expo, which you're a part of, New
Speaker 3: being sold off, the New Living Expo being resurrected, and
Speaker 3: coming out of the Whole Life era, right, And then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, in the last three years, as
Speaker 3: you know, the energy fading out. Ken was ready to retire.
Speaker 3: There was less and less people showing up. The energy
Speaker 3: was before was an there anymore. And in many ways,
Speaker 3: a lot of the speakers were kind of like people
Speaker 3: that have been on the circuit for decades and they
Speaker 3: needed it, needed a new, invigorating energy, and I already
Speaker 3: fell off the bat. With my community, I've worked with
Speaker 3: over four thousand speakers, I've created over three thousand events
Speaker 3: live online and in person, and with my community and
Speaker 3: network that I felt like I would be the perfect
Speaker 3: candidate to take this over and then bring it back
Speaker 3: to life, and instead of a legacy event kind of
Speaker 3: fading out into nothingness, that we could bring it back
Speaker 3: and have this historical event become something even greater than
Speaker 3: it's ever been before and be a beacon of light
Speaker 3: for this new paradigm that is emerging. And so, you know,
Speaker 3: I've been told I'm overly ambitious sometimes, you know, And
Speaker 3: so I got like the energy of like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this right now. There's so much happening on Earth. There's
Speaker 3: so many changes that are going to happen the next
Speaker 3: few years, and it's the perfect opportunity for me to
Speaker 3: steward something that can become a really massive event, to
Speaker 3: create an area for people to go to as this
Speaker 3: leakning continues, you know. And so that was kind of
Speaker 3: the energy behind it. When when I want to talk a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, Neil about your background, because you have this company,
Speaker 2: Ascension Productions or something. Yeah, and so you're you understand
Speaker 2: the dynamics of events. Talk a little bit about what
Speaker 2: Ascension is and give us a little more background about,
Speaker 2: you know, the event side of things, because I'm an
Speaker 2: event guy too. It's not as simple, you know, put
Speaker 2: your chairs out and just hope everyone shows up. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of work behind it. But talk about ascension.
Speaker 2: What's that about?
Speaker 3: So all right, so the event company portal to Ascension.
Speaker 3: The way it started was, you know, a long story
Speaker 3: short for the beginning part was that, you know, I
Speaker 3: was raised Hindu, and I always kind of just did
Speaker 3: what I was told. I never really believed in anything
Speaker 3: when it came to the gods and Hindu gods, and
Speaker 3: I was just you know, going through the rights and rituals,
Speaker 3: following what my parents told me. But pretty soon I
Speaker 3: started seeing that there's all these similarities within religions that
Speaker 3: were the same as Hinduism. For example, the Christian story
Speaker 3: is very similar to Christ's story Jesus history. So what
Speaker 3: really started for me was, and started all the portal dissension,
Speaker 3: was is their root to all religion? Because all these
Speaker 3: religions are supposed to be supposedly very separate from each other,
Speaker 3: but I'm seeing all these commonalities. So I started going
Speaker 3: on to search for the root of all religion, and
Speaker 3: then that took me into the ancient history. That was
Speaker 3: how it all started for me. Egyptian texts, Sumerian texts,
Speaker 3: the Seven Tablets of Creation. And as I was finding
Speaker 3: the Seven Tables of Creation, the Samerian information, all this
Speaker 3: spiritual wisdom was in these texts, all these texts about
Speaker 3: extraterustrial life was in there. And that was like two
Speaker 3: thousand and one. I was eighteen years old, and that
Speaker 3: just started me going down deep down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: And I was pretty much going down the rabbit hole
Speaker 3: for good six years. Research, research conferences, things on extraterrestrials.
Speaker 3: You have for disclosure of following, people like Stephen where,
Speaker 3: William Henry, you know, and William Henry, Jordan Maxwell and
Speaker 3: Mastem Harriman. There were my first three people when I
Speaker 3: was eighty.
Speaker 2: Wow, maybe just stop you for a minute, Neil. Did
Speaker 2: you say you were born in India?
Speaker 3: No, I I was born in Hindia, but I was
Speaker 3: born in England.
Speaker 2: You were born in England? And then how did you
Speaker 2: get to the West Coast of California.
Speaker 3: When my parent my when I was twelve, my dad
Speaker 3: had a job transfer to Irvine.
Speaker 2: Ah, Okay, So you were It wasn't something that you
Speaker 2: didn't consciously. You were part of the family. And of
Speaker 2: course when you get parents.
Speaker 3: I came there, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's so funny because LA is like the beacon
Speaker 2: of all this metaphysics and spiritual growth, and so you
Speaker 2: became you became a seeker.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I'm a seeker. I wanted to find out
Speaker 3: what the truth was. And it all started from what
Speaker 3: is the root of everything? And I would say, like,
Speaker 3: even if you look at all the events that we do,
Speaker 3: there's so many different things, but it's trying to find
Speaker 3: what the root is. And the root is almost like
Speaker 3: trying to prove through every single discipline, ancient history, quantum physics, consciousness,
Speaker 3: that we're all connected in a while, right, And that's
Speaker 3: the goal, is to show everybody how interconnected we are
Speaker 3: and how divine we are through every single modality that
Speaker 3: is possible.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: And when I first started, I didn't know how to
Speaker 3: do that. But then two thousand and six that created
Speaker 3: a Facebook group called twenty twelve Consciousness, Mind, Evolution and Presence.
Speaker 3: That was the name of the group, right, It was
Speaker 3: like a long one and thousands of people joined, so
Speaker 3: they kept joining the group. So by two thousand and eight,
Speaker 3: I changed the name to Portal to Ascension. It changed
Speaker 3: the name.
Speaker 2: Oh excellent, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I created my first event, which was a
Speaker 3: binaur will be sound frequency event, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should let people know that. By the way,
Speaker 2: Portal Ascension is streaming. It's your early streaming version, right.
Speaker 2: You don't have people coming into a room or something.
Speaker 2: It's a it's almost purely online right.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, so when I from two thousand and eight
Speaker 3: to twenty sixteen, nothing was online. So the first eight
Speaker 3: years it was all live events, right, wow, it was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. I did all Stephen Gray's events for six
Speaker 3: years and a tour with Brian Forrester. I did one
Speaker 3: hundred no. I did over two hundred live events with
Speaker 3: Michael Tallander in person. I took him on three international tours.
Speaker 3: All of his events he did in the US in
Speaker 3: the last decade were four percent production.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, you didn't go to South Africa.
Speaker 2: You had him here.
Speaker 3: All the US, Yeah, US and Canada. Okay, cool, So
Speaker 3: you know, all of Paula Harris's events for a whole year,
Speaker 3: we were doing like you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: James Redfield, author of the Celestee Prophecy, I did all
Speaker 3: of his tours as well, and then but then I
Speaker 3: had my own conferences and I had my own workshops.
Speaker 3: But from for eight years it was not making any money.
Speaker 3: I was like, I was broke. Oftentimes I had nothing
Speaker 3: left at the end of it all. You got to
Speaker 3: fly places, you got gas money, you gotta pay for food,
Speaker 3: you got hotels.
Speaker 2: It's you know, it's cash intensive.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's intense. So then twenty sixteen I decided quit,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go twenty fourteen, I'm going to quit.
Speaker 3: No more portal dissension. Let me get a corporate job, right,
Speaker 3: And my friend says, hey, you know, here you go,
Speaker 3: bro his three thousand dollars. Don't quit World Descension. Invest
Speaker 3: this in the business somehow. So I decided what would
Speaker 3: happen if I continue doing events but moved everything online
Speaker 3: so the zero overhead costs, right, just one subscription. So
Speaker 3: I did that in twenty fourteen, and my first event
Speaker 3: was called the star Seed Summit, and my first online
Speaker 3: event was Dolores Kennon's last event she's ever done.
Speaker 2: Oh she's a huge name, wonderful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, So I'd already worked with her a few times,
Speaker 3: so she said yes to being on my event and
Speaker 3: one event gave me a six months of salary in
Speaker 3: one webinar.
Speaker 2: Fantastic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I quit again. I quit. I mean, I
Speaker 3: quit my job again, and and I never stopped. I
Speaker 3: made a pack to the universe in that moment, because
Speaker 3: I had been in and out. I was like, whenever
Speaker 3: thing's going to work out, I'd be like I quit,
Speaker 3: So I said to the universe in twenty twenty fourteen,
Speaker 3: no matter whatever happens, if I ever feel like I'm
Speaker 3: not making enough money doing portal dissension that can't survive,
Speaker 3: I will make a promise right now, I'll never quit
Speaker 3: spreading the truth about who we really are. And even
Speaker 3: if I have to work at home depot at the
Speaker 3: tree lot. I'm saying that because that's why I did.
Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, I worked at home deepot the tree locks.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Wow.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I wouldn't quit. But lucky for me,
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, I've been full time. I've never had to
Speaker 3: work for anything else except for one part time job
Speaker 3: for a few months and then it grew. But for
Speaker 3: the first four years twenty sixteen, twenty twenty to twenty nineteen,
Speaker 3: only online that's what sustained the business, that's what made
Speaker 3: us grow. That's a grow email list. But then now
Speaker 3: since twenty nineteen, we've been doing live events again. So
Speaker 3: we do like four or five live events a year
Speaker 3: and then we do around sixty online events.
Speaker 2: So do you're like an early innovator of the streaming
Speaker 2: production and so do you have your own cameras and
Speaker 2: everything and and all your switches and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: so when you do a live event, uh, you know
Speaker 2: you're all set up ahead of time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so now I do, because you know, what we
Speaker 3: were doing, like Steven Grazs events for example, were we
Speaker 3: were only producing these live seams. So I had a
Speaker 3: lot of troublem figuring things out. And now now I
Speaker 3: have a team. I'm living here right now. I'm in
Speaker 3: Greece with my friend. He's he's part of the team.
Speaker 3: He films pretty much all of our content. Oh you're
Speaker 3: in Greece right now, yeah, because we're doing we're doing
Speaker 3: the ten day Greek Island Cruise, an ancient civilization's cruise
Speaker 3: over here portal in about two weeks. Yeah. So actually
Speaker 3: I'm in Roads right now. I just got to Roads yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's freaking nicer. Okay, So so yeah, I have a
Speaker 3: bunch of bunch of people that helped me out. We
Speaker 3: have things set up already. I have like four or
Speaker 3: five videographers that I work with, and when we do
Speaker 3: a webinar, we just used regular webcams.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is your vision for New Living Expo? Because
Speaker 2: that has been going on for over twenty years. We
Speaker 2: know this history. Ken Coffin sold a Whole Life Expo
Speaker 2: to a German company. They basically lost it, fell apart.
Speaker 2: He had a legal agreement he could not use Whole
Speaker 2: Life Expo again. So he morphed Whole Life into New
Speaker 2: Living Expo approximately twenty one years ago. And so you
Speaker 2: have purchased it. What is your feeling about it? Give
Speaker 2: us a sense of what you hope to see and
Speaker 2: what your vision is for New Living.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, when I was first negotiating with him
Speaker 3: to take it over, I really did not want to
Speaker 3: do it till twenty twenty seven. That was my original thing,
Speaker 3: but he really wanted to release it now and then,
Speaker 3: so then I started checking doing myself. And the reason
Speaker 3: I wanted to do twenty twenty seven is because I
Speaker 3: think collectively on Earth from a lot of the whistleblowers,
Speaker 3: from a lot of conscious awarenesses out there, from many
Speaker 3: different sources. Twenty twenty seven is going to be a
Speaker 3: pivotal year for humanity, and then moving up to twenty thirty,
Speaker 3: the next three years are going to be the most
Speaker 3: transformational years maybe in our whole lifetimes. And so I
Speaker 3: was already making some big plans for Portals Resentsion for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, and then when I reflected saying, Okay,
Speaker 3: I need to take it over this year if I
Speaker 3: want it, I realized that twenty twenty sixth is a
Speaker 3: good year to take it on as the buffer year
Speaker 3: where I'm working out the kinks, really getting a feel
Speaker 3: for what this event is, so that I can continue
Speaker 3: to grow it, especially for twenty twenty seven, because I
Speaker 3: have some really huge ideas. For example, we're going to
Speaker 3: have a mass meditation twenty twenty seven, when we're going
Speaker 3: to have ten thousand people online streaming online around the
Speaker 3: world meditating with us from the expo. You know, Okay,
Speaker 3: but my goal and attention is is I feel that
Speaker 3: pretty soon everybody in the world, everyone in the world's
Speaker 3: going to know we're not alone in the universe. Right
Speaker 3: that there's life out there, and twenty twenty seven may
Speaker 3: be that that year from a lot of different sources.
Speaker 3: So my intention is to create a beacon, a central
Speaker 3: place where people could gather not only to continue to
Speaker 3: receive transformational wisdom, information and also technology, but also a
Speaker 3: place where we can do things like connect C five,
Speaker 3: do mass meditations and right now with AI, quantum computing,
Speaker 3: all these biohacking technologies, anti aging devices coming, I want
Speaker 3: to be able to have a central place where people
Speaker 3: can showcase this technology right and come. And then I'll
Speaker 3: say my third thing would be that I want to
Speaker 3: combine disciplines. I want to bring in the biohacking community
Speaker 3: that goes to the biohacking conference.
Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. I'm so happy to hear you say that,
Speaker 2: because I cover a lot of that on Destiny is
Speaker 2: the latest biohacking products like the weight loss and for
Speaker 2: the brain enhancement. It's fantastic. That's a glee man, that's
Speaker 2: a side venture that you can morph into a whole
Speaker 2: show by itself. And there are biohacking conferences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so exactly. And so my part of my team
Speaker 3: has been traveling to biohacking conferences, making connections with the biohackers.
Speaker 3: We even have a person who's putting on a biohacking
Speaker 3: documentary coming there to film our people. Right, So, bridging
Speaker 3: the world, creating a central place portal dissension has always
Speaker 3: been a place where we bridge the gap between different disciplines,
Speaker 3: and so now that we have a live place to
Speaker 3: do it, I feel it's going to be more impactful
Speaker 3: than just doing it online because, as you know, when
Speaker 3: you have a live event with somebody, the level of
Speaker 3: connection that you receive just to be there in person
Speaker 3: is a whole different energy than when you're just doing
Speaker 3: it online.
Speaker 2: Right. Right, the expo is April seventeenth, eighteenth and nineteenth,
Speaker 2: is going to be held in San Refel And is
Speaker 2: any portion of the expo going to be streaming? I
Speaker 2: have my audience is all over the all over the
Speaker 2: world world. Actually, will they be able to dial up
Speaker 2: and see any of these great speakers that you have
Speaker 2: online or do they need to be there in person?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So this year we're not streaming it, but we
Speaker 3: are we are selling recordings. So just there's so many
Speaker 3: like you know you shared in the beginning, like how
Speaker 3: much of ordeal. How much of undertaking this is. It's
Speaker 3: truly like so massive, putting on this event, working out
Speaker 3: all the different energies, figuring out who I want to
Speaker 3: work with, people coming and going, you know. So because
Speaker 3: of the gravity of that, I'm not producing a live
Speaker 3: stream this year, but the three major rooms with three
Speaker 3: that have the largest speakers, we're recording them all and
Speaker 3: then people can sign up for those and then we
Speaker 3: send them the recordings a week later. Okay, twenty seven
Speaker 3: whole live streaming component.
Speaker 2: Okay. So for people to get information on the expo itself,
Speaker 2: your current lineup, they need to go to New livingexpo
Speaker 2: dot com. And then where would they find those streaming
Speaker 2: product presentations? Would it be under speakers?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you go to tickets, there'll be an area
Speaker 3: sage that just says recording zombie.
Speaker 2: Okay under speakers. Okay, excellent, fantastic, Neil. I'm really excited
Speaker 2: to have you on board. I love Ken and his wife,
Speaker 2: but they were just ready to turn it over. So
Speaker 2: it looks like you're the right energy.
Speaker 3: Thank you man.
Speaker 2: Give us real quickly a final thought on what the
Speaker 2: future holds for New Living XBO.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to make this the largest and biggest
Speaker 3: conscious gathering in the world. To be quite honest and
Speaker 3: the you know, one of the things that Ortal tossension
Speaker 3: part about mission statement is collaboration over competition. One thing
Speaker 3: that I've noticed doing events for so long is how
Speaker 3: much competitive energy there is. How much this is territorial
Speaker 3: energy there is. Like I could tell you some really
Speaker 3: horror stories from events that you probably know very well
Speaker 3: about that try to bankrupt me and made up lies
Speaker 3: just be because of the competition energy, and when it
Speaker 3: gets on the producer level, it's just insane, especially in
Speaker 3: California with the major events in California. So what I
Speaker 3: feel is that the universe is an abundant place. It
Speaker 3: is more than enough for everybody. However, even though we
Speaker 3: know that intellectually, people don't implement it. So what I'm
Speaker 3: doing with this is I'm reaching out to all people,
Speaker 3: reaching out to all conferences, expo people. I'm creating collaborations
Speaker 3: that don't usually happen. For example, I'm actually teaming up
Speaker 3: with Conscious Life Expo. We're working together to promote the
Speaker 3: new living. So we're doing some major things together as well.
Speaker 3: We were just there. I was just there as a
Speaker 3: sponsor last Weekend for Conscious Life as well.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: So my vision is not only to create this central
Speaker 3: contact space where we're continue to evolve, continue to bring
Speaker 3: the new thought leaders that are coming out with this information,
Speaker 3: getting more and more people there every day, I mean
Speaker 3: every year, but also bringing in other people that are
Speaker 3: doing massive, amazing work so we can come together to
Speaker 3: create something incredible. Another example is, you know, there's a
Speaker 3: there's a Psychedelic Society of San Francisco. They are the
Speaker 3: ones that actually for them. Because of them, we have
Speaker 3: one hundred places in the US that have decriminalized psychedelics,
Speaker 3: naturally occurring psychedelics, and they're the ones that help the
Speaker 3: veterans because the veterans are the reason why, you know,
Speaker 3: psychedelics are being decriminalized, because they're being healed from PTSD.
Speaker 3: And they liquidated their conference in the Bay Area and
Speaker 3: merged it into the hours.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So it will.
Speaker 2: Be some psychedelic discussion at this show.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's gonna be one whole room just psychedelics.
Speaker 3: We have the forefather, the guy that invented the micro microdosing,
Speaker 3: the actual industry of micro dosing. We have the forefather
Speaker 3: off that industry, company, you know, and they're going to
Speaker 3: be teaching about the benefits of it, you know. So,
Speaker 3: and there is another conference in the East Coast that
Speaker 3: might also liquidate their conference, and we're going to give
Speaker 3: them a whole room in twenty twenty seven where they
Speaker 3: basically run their own room.
Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. I love that.
Speaker 3: So it's like instead of like looking at people like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're doing this thing in the same area as medial competition,
Speaker 3: it's almost like, let's reach out. How can we support
Speaker 3: each other in doing this for the right reasons, Like
Speaker 3: why are we doing this? We want We're not doing
Speaker 3: this because it's it's something to make money off and
Speaker 3: it's a business. We're doing it because we know there's
Speaker 3: a better way to live on earth. And the only
Speaker 3: way we can we can actually create that reality is
Speaker 3: if we come together and work together.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Neil gar is the producer and owner of New Living Expo.
Speaker 2: The dates for this program are April seventeen, eighteen to nineteenth.
Speaker 2: For all the details, go to New Livingexpo dot com.
Speaker 2: And it is a show to be reckoned with. I
Speaker 2: tell you I'm looking forward to being a part of it,
Speaker 2: but I suggest going online and taking a look at
Speaker 2: their lineup is an excellent lineup. Hey, much success, Neil,
Speaker 2: and uh glad you took it over. We're going to
Speaker 2: take a short commercial break to allow our sponsors to
Speaker 2: identify themselves and we will return shortly with my guests
Speaker 2: today from the New Living Expo schedule April seventeenth, eighteen
Speaker 2: nineteenth at the San Rafael Conference Center. For more information,
Speaker 2: go to New Livingexpo dot com. We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: My guests today are the producer of the New Living Expo,
Speaker 2: Neil Garr and two of the speakers who will be
Speaker 2: presenting at the expo, including Mariah Miller, who is a
Speaker 2: life coach and Lily Nova, who is a et experiencer.
Speaker 2: Earth Asians is a sponsor of the upcoming New Living Expo.
Speaker 2: The schedule of dates for the program is this month,
Speaker 2: April seventeen, eighteen, the nineteenth that's going to be held
Speaker 2: at the San Rafel Convention Center and if you want
Speaker 2: more information, you can go to Newlivingexpo dot com and
Speaker 2: see all the details. We have two of the speakers
Speaker 2: joining me today. Mariah Miller is joining me as well
Speaker 2: as Lily Nova, and they're both featured on the program Guy,
Speaker 2: which you can see at new lib inexpo dot com.
Speaker 2: Mariah Miller is a transformational coach, a therapist focusing on
Speaker 2: helping women navigate burnout, identity loss, and life transitions. We're
Speaker 2: going to talk to her a little bit about her
Speaker 2: work and hopefully get a little bit about what she's
Speaker 2: going to be speaking on at the expo. So, Mariah,
Speaker 2: Welcome to Earth Ancients. Great to see you.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: I'm excited talk about the core transformational work that you
Speaker 2: do to help women, which is an interesting focus. You've
Speaker 2: decided to work directly with women because maybe they're they're
Speaker 2: in a position that need more recognizable help. Talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about your practice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so, I that's a really good question. I work
Speaker 5: with women because I'm a woman myself, So I notice
Speaker 5: I can recognize a number of the struggles that women
Speaker 5: are going through. And b I find that in our world,
Speaker 5: fifty percent of the population, women are undervalued. And we
Speaker 5: tend to carry a lot in this world, a lot
Speaker 5: of the emotional the emotional value, the emotional load in
Speaker 5: this world. And I also feel we have so much
Speaker 5: potential that is not seen and recognized. So what I
Speaker 5: do specifically in my work in the various ways that
Speaker 5: I do, it is help women feel recognized by themselves
Speaker 5: so that they get to express themselves in a bigger way.
Speaker 2: Okay, you I read something that you said was very interesting.
Speaker 2: You see, you work with women who look successful on
Speaker 2: the outside but feel disconnected on the inside. I thought
Speaker 2: that was an interesting quote. Talk about that. What does
Speaker 2: that mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we all have masks, we all have fronts,
Speaker 5: and we all have an i would say, an inner
Speaker 5: and an external expression of what success feels like or
Speaker 5: is like. And we have the idea of success being
Speaker 5: a particular job, a particular income, a particular status, you
Speaker 5: name it. And yet on the inside you can still
Speaker 5: feel like nothing when you have that same external expression.
Speaker 5: My personal life, many years ago, I had a really
Speaker 5: good marriage. We had a big house with a three
Speaker 5: car garage. We had the three cars, and my then
Speaker 5: husband and I at the time were why are we
Speaker 5: still not happy? And it led me to with my
Speaker 5: then husband travel through Central and South America through Europe
Speaker 5: like a long extended travel to try to find purpose.
Speaker 5: Couldn't find my purpose until I got home and opened
Speaker 5: up that you know, and then that time it was
Speaker 5: a new magazine, Oh by Oprah, and I read an
Speaker 5: article about this new career which was called life coaching,
Speaker 5: and it just gave me goosebumps, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: my gosh, that's what I want. It's not the big house,
Speaker 5: it's not all that other stuff. This is what I've
Speaker 5: been doing all my life. And guess what, there is
Speaker 5: a name for it. So that's what I'm helping other
Speaker 5: women with as well. And these are women that I
Speaker 5: work with, women who are in jail and who have
Speaker 5: a different road in front of.
Speaker 2: Them, incarcerated mm hmm correct, Oh really okay, wow.
Speaker 5: As well as women who have found themselves in that
Speaker 5: rat race and are recognizing weight I'm giving up so
Speaker 5: much of myself for something that's not really truly aligned
Speaker 5: with me. And then also I work with women who
Speaker 5: have gotten to a place and have accomplished all these
Speaker 5: things and are close to retirement or even in retirement,
Speaker 5: and are just in that same space of hey, this
Speaker 5: is a whole new phase. I now want to do
Speaker 5: this for me? What do I have to be able
Speaker 5: to contribute and to serve?
Speaker 2: So who would you say is looking for you? Somebody
Speaker 2: who builds out of place, is, as you call it,
Speaker 2: wearing a facade and is realizing that it's not working
Speaker 2: for them anymore, and they're afraid of their future. Give
Speaker 2: us a description and give us an understanding of who's
Speaker 2: seeking you out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think the woman who hears this and
Speaker 5: who is recognizing that stirring inside, that feeling in their
Speaker 5: soul that this is not it that quiet desperation that
Speaker 5: Threau talks about that just makes you numb and dead inside,
Speaker 5: and just knowing that there's something else and that there's
Speaker 5: that feeling of pain that you keep bouncing again angst
Speaker 5: that says, hey, I'm ready. Those are the women that
Speaker 5: I work with.
Speaker 2: Can you walk us through a typical session as a
Speaker 2: therapist what you would be keen on if someone came
Speaker 2: to visit with you?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, So, first of all, I'm not a therapist.
Speaker 5: I am a life coach and I'm also a human
Speaker 5: design teacher and use that extensively in my work. So
Speaker 5: what I usually do when women are coming to me, We've,
Speaker 5: of course first to have a conversation what is it
Speaker 5: that you really would like? And you'll be surprised that
Speaker 5: a lot of women don't actually even know, but very
Speaker 5: often they will have a feeling of what they would
Speaker 5: like to feel inside if they are more aligned. And
Speaker 5: that's what we start with. And then I use something
Speaker 5: that's called human design as an assessment. It's basically using
Speaker 5: their birth information and that creates a chart, and that
Speaker 5: chart allows us to see skills and strengths, but also
Speaker 5: how you can use your energy best and very practically,
Speaker 5: how you can move into a decision that feels really
Speaker 5: right according to your intuition. And then we use that
Speaker 5: as the guiding light to help determine purpose and help
Speaker 5: start more practical steps. So that's in a nutshell, the process.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like you're using some astrology in this
Speaker 2: human design component. Talk about that. It sounds Can you
Speaker 2: expand on it a little bit because it sounds like
Speaker 2: a real great way to learn about somebody?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely, I love human design. So human design is
Speaker 5: a system that consists of a number of different wisdom systems.
Speaker 5: Astrology is one, and then there is the itching Have
Speaker 5: you heard of that?
Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, great chakra system and DNA and all of those
Speaker 5: together come up or create this picture that really explains
Speaker 5: a lot. Now it's no longer astrology, it's no longer
Speaker 5: the eaching, but all of that together just is a
Speaker 5: beautiful way in to we have to give people a
Speaker 5: real good sense of themselves. And when I do readings,
Speaker 5: people feel often just validated in such a way that
Speaker 5: they've not felt before.
Speaker 2: I really like that. It sounds kind of like a body,
Speaker 2: mind and spirit history. Yeah, like a doctor takes a
Speaker 2: history what feels good, what feels bad. You're kind of
Speaker 2: looking at it going where are you as a incarnate
Speaker 2: at this lifetime?
Speaker 5: Exactly? Exactly, yes, because it looks at both sides. It
Speaker 5: looks both at Okay, well, who are you as as
Speaker 5: who you think you are as a personality, the kind
Speaker 5: of parts of you that you know, and we get
Speaker 5: to look under the hood. What are the patterns and
Speaker 5: the tendencies and where do you turn away from or
Speaker 5: where do you turn towards? What makes you you truly
Speaker 5: where you are aligned? It's really cool.
Speaker 2: What are some of the measurable changes that your client's
Speaker 2: experience that you track. Obviously, relief from things like depression
Speaker 2: would probably be a big one, but one of the
Speaker 2: other things that you can describe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the most notable instant results is that
Speaker 5: people really as I said, they feel seen. They feel
Speaker 5: seen in such a deep way that you know, we
Speaker 5: all have those thoughts that that tell us, oh, you
Speaker 5: shouldn't have done that, or you should be doing this,
Speaker 5: Like those those shoulds, they disappear. There's just this more
Speaker 5: acceptance of yourself, not having to fight against yourself. And
Speaker 5: once you start following your internal yes, your internal flow,
Speaker 5: then the things that you thought were important and that
Speaker 5: you were fighting for because you felt like you should
Speaker 5: be doing that, when that falls away, then it just
Speaker 5: becomes so much simpler, and there's more flow, there's more ease,
Speaker 5: and so people make big progress in their careers. But overall,
Speaker 5: just feeling better about themselves, less anxiety, more balance is
Speaker 5: really what I'm after.
Speaker 2: And do you provide your clients with tools through these charts?
Speaker 2: I guess you could call.
Speaker 5: Them correct Yes, Well, in particularly the way that we
Speaker 5: can bump up against ourselves. Those areas where we may
Speaker 5: have had conditioning from our parents, our community, those are
Speaker 5: the areas where we get to shine a different light
Speaker 5: and say, okay, well, what is it that you need
Speaker 5: in order to be more You to listen to yourself,
Speaker 5: to give yourself permission, and that can be very practical.
Speaker 5: It can also be more of a mindset work, so
Speaker 5: there's different tools, but that's really where we're going in
Speaker 5: a practical way, how can we get you to move forward?
Speaker 2: Fantastic. One of the things that you discuss is our
Speaker 2: inner critic. Is it the goal to eliminate the inner
Speaker 2: critic or is it more that we should follow it
Speaker 2: on some level?
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I love that question. So the inner critic,
Speaker 5: I first of all think that we can never completely
Speaker 5: get rid of the inner critic. That's just our mind.
Speaker 5: There is a real scientific reason why we have that
Speaker 5: inner critic, because it's ultimately there to keep us safe
Speaker 5: and to force our survival in this real life world.
Speaker 5: And I think with recognition of where that inner critic
Speaker 5: is connecting truly to your intuition. With inner critic, has
Speaker 5: that critical not comfortable anxiety, depressed sensation, emotional sensation versus
Speaker 5: where intuition speaks internally, that's clean, that's clear, there's no
Speaker 5: story around it, And that's where there's the blend of
Speaker 5: the inner critic going into the intuition. How do you
Speaker 5: recognize that for yourself? That's where we're.
Speaker 2: Going, Fantastic. One of the things that I dealt with
Speaker 2: when I was working in corporate life was burnout and
Speaker 2: I don't know how I mean, for me, it was
Speaker 2: just rest. And then at some point I quit the
Speaker 2: corporate life because I couldn't deal being with being a number.
Speaker 2: You know, work with a big company. How do you
Speaker 2: deal with burnout? And what do you suggest to your
Speaker 2: clients who are dealing with it? And I mean because
Speaker 2: it can ruin your life if you just can't get
Speaker 2: off the training wheels.
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure. Well, first of all, I want to
Speaker 5: acknowledge you for taking that step, because that takes courage
Speaker 5: to step away from that. So good for you for
Speaker 5: taking care of yourself. Yeah, and there's a number of
Speaker 5: different tools. My background is in heart math. I don't
Speaker 5: know if you've heard of heart maths.
Speaker 2: I love heart math.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I worked there for ten years.
Speaker 2: That's right, fantastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love heart math and that's what I use
Speaker 5: with all my clients.
Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit about that to our listeners,
Speaker 2: just to give us a sense of because that's a
Speaker 2: huge integration to have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, that's that more practical, uh, the practical experience
Speaker 5: to be able to bring into Okay, I have a
Speaker 5: better idea of myself of where I want to go
Speaker 5: right now, I'm coming up with all these blocks, So
Speaker 5: how do I do this? You know, all these feelings
Speaker 5: that can steer us in different directions, and so heart
Speaker 5: math is a system of tools that you can use
Speaker 5: to whenever you're feeling triggered or flooded, those are the
Speaker 5: official terms. Whenever you're noticing that your internal state is
Speaker 5: just uncomfortable, there is a way to practically bring yourself
Speaker 5: into a state of balance. Heart Maths talks about coherence,
Speaker 5: and coherence is bringing the heart, the breath, and the
Speaker 5: brain into synchronization. And when that synchronization happens, it creates
Speaker 5: an internal pattern that's so strong that it pulls together
Speaker 5: your whole internal system. So your emotions, your digestive system,
Speaker 5: your immune system, everything start to follow in that same
Speaker 5: pattern and it just feels much more calm, much more balanced,
Speaker 5: much more aligned. And when you're in that state, it's
Speaker 5: much more efficient for your whole system, and so your
Speaker 5: energy is more focused to be able to use in
Speaker 5: the ways that you want to use it.
Speaker 2: Can you bring it down a little bit deeper and
Speaker 2: tell us I think, isn't the philosophy of heart math
Speaker 2: that the heart has a level of awareness that the
Speaker 2: brain does exactly give us some of the fundamentals of that.
Speaker 2: Because I think it's a fantastic idea, and when you
Speaker 2: have the realization, you actually begin living differently, don't you.
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of cool.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. So our brain is great, right, it does all
Speaker 5: these different measuring and collecting data, and I just want
Speaker 5: to put that aside, because our heart actually sends up
Speaker 5: much more information to the brain than the brain sends
Speaker 5: down to the heart. And if you would measure the
Speaker 5: electromagnetic field, which is a field that all our organs have,
Speaker 5: an electrical field but also an electromagnetic field. If you
Speaker 5: would measure the electromagnetic field of the brain, you'd put
Speaker 5: the sensors on the head, on the scalp. If you
Speaker 5: measure the electromagnetic field of the heart, it actually extends
Speaker 5: out from us three to four feet, And that's what's measurable.
Speaker 5: My experience, and most people that I speak with their
Speaker 5: experience is actually that it's much larger. For instance, you know,
Speaker 5: if two people have been having a fight and they're
Speaker 5: not speaking, they're just pretending to be okay, and you
Speaker 5: walk in that room, you feel it right, There is
Speaker 5: something that you feel and that's not officially measurable at
Speaker 5: this moment, or maybe there is and I've just not
Speaker 5: read the science. But that is just so much more potent,
Speaker 5: meaning that we are all in each other's field all
Speaker 5: the time, and if we are more balanced and more
Speaker 5: coherent in our own system, our heart, let our heart
Speaker 5: are due to talking that's more coherent and balanced, then
Speaker 5: we actually affect other people around us and more bring
Speaker 5: more coherence in their field as well. And that I
Speaker 5: think is ultimately what I'm here to do to bring
Speaker 5: more peace in the world, and I'm hoping that, especially nowadays,
Speaker 5: there's more with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound like a great facilitator. I want to
Speaker 2: set up for one of your classes. Tell us about
Speaker 2: what you're presenting at the expo, and I don't have
Speaker 2: it right in front of me. What day are you speaking?
Speaker 2: Do you know what time too?
Speaker 5: M Yes, I'm speaking on Saturday at five point fifteen
Speaker 5: and I'm talking about HEARTA I'm sorry, I'm talking about
Speaker 5: human design in particular.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're going to define it so fantastic, Yeah,
Speaker 4: And people will have an opportunity to download their own
Speaker 4: chart and then look as we're talking about different energy
Speaker 4: types and so hopefully practical.
Speaker 5: I always like practical things.
Speaker 2: As we conclude, do you believe that we have a
Speaker 2: purpose when we incarnate? And if that's the case, how
Speaker 2: do we strengthen our resolve to fulfill that purpose?
Speaker 5: I love that question. Yes, I do believe that we
Speaker 5: all are here with a particular purpose, and I think
Speaker 5: that that is our road on earth to be able
Speaker 5: to get more aligned with what is true for us,
Speaker 5: true with our heart, to be able to make the
Speaker 5: choices that are more aligned with that so that we
Speaker 5: get to express our purpose in deeper and bigger ways.
Speaker 2: Fantastic. I guest is Mariah Miller. She's speaking at the
Speaker 2: New Living Expo. You can get more information at New
Speaker 2: Livingexpo dot com and it is a three day conference
Speaker 2: at the San Refel Convention Center in the San Francisco
Speaker 2: Bay area. Thanks for joining me and great to have
Speaker 2: you with us.
Speaker 5: Thank you so much. Cliff really appreciate this. This was fun.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 2: our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly
Speaker 2: with my guests today from the New Living Expo. Coming
Speaker 2: to you April seventeenth, eighteen to nineteenth in the San
Speaker 2: Refel Convention Center twenty twenty six. We'll be right back
Speaker 2: with you. Destiny is a sponsor of the New Living
Speaker 2: Expo scheduled for San Rafel, California, April seventeenth, eighteenth, and
Speaker 2: nineteenth of this year, and for more information go to
Speaker 2: Newlivingexpo dot com. My next guest is Lily Nova. She
Speaker 2: is a UFO and space photographer, but more importantly, she's
Speaker 2: an ET contact d We're going to learn about that,
Speaker 2: a spiritual teacher and just a fascinating individual that we
Speaker 2: want to present today on the program. So Lily, welcome
Speaker 2: to Earth Ancients. Great they have you on the program.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Okay, the big one. You describe yourself as an ET
Speaker 2: contact team. We want to hear about that. How did
Speaker 2: that happen and where?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, So this path found me back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Back in at the time, I was living in Saint Louis, Missouri,
Speaker 1: and this is in the middle of COVID lockdown and
Speaker 1: everything was closed, so a lot of people were picking
Speaker 1: up other hobbies and I really got into space photography.
Speaker 1: I had all the all the gear I was became
Speaker 1: obsessed and just fell in love with the night sky.
Speaker 1: So that's where I was spending almost every single night
Speaker 1: and taking photographs of the Moon, other galaxies, different nebula
Speaker 1: star clusters. Like I got really into it.
Speaker 2: And were you using one of those telescope cameras or
Speaker 2: just a high power lens on a regular reflective camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a high powered lens, so I would use a
Speaker 1: three hundred millimeter lens with my Nikon DSLR camera. But
Speaker 1: I had friends who had all of the other cool
Speaker 1: gadgets and telescopes and things like that. But that's essentially
Speaker 1: like putting a mini telescope on the end of your camera.
Speaker 1: So I got really into that. And to my surprise,
Speaker 1: after getting into that, a few months, I had my
Speaker 1: first UFO encounter and it was a very very close encounter.
Speaker 1: I had never seen them before that I was aware of,
Speaker 1: and I, you know, I stepped outside, I saw this
Speaker 1: hovering light and then a second craft appeared. So the
Speaker 1: hovering light was already cool because it was like hovering
Speaker 1: in a circular motion. I ruled out anything else. And
Speaker 1: because I was looking up at the stars all, you know,
Speaker 1: every single night, so I could tell the difference between
Speaker 1: the planet and aircraft. You know, this wasn't anything of ours.
Speaker 1: But a second craft appeared much closer, and this one
Speaker 1: was in a diamond shape, and it had a row
Speaker 1: of red lights and blue green lights that went across it.
Speaker 1: And when I saw it, I kind of froze because
Speaker 1: my brain couldn't quite make sense of what I was
Speaker 1: seeing because it was this odd shape. It was very close,
Speaker 1: just a few houses down, hovering above the house, and
Speaker 1: it moved, It seemed to react to my thoughts, and
Speaker 1: it moved up and down, side to side, and then
Speaker 1: started coming straight towards me, and then it vanished right
Speaker 1: above my head.
Speaker 2: Tell me you're just petrified, freaking out and thinking, what
Speaker 2: the hell is this? Uh?
Speaker 1: I mean I definitely I was shaking, yeah, shaking, and
Speaker 1: it it kind of freaked me out, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, because what was definitely what was the
Speaker 1: craziest part was I didn't just happen to see one.
Speaker 1: It appeared just a few houses down and it was
Speaker 1: looking at me. It was interacting and reacting to my
Speaker 1: thoughts because I thought, am I really seeing this? And
Speaker 1: then it moved up down, it started moving around to
Speaker 1: show me, yes, you're seeing this, and no, this is
Speaker 1: not from Earth. This is nothing that humans have at
Speaker 1: least that's out in the open right. They are back
Speaker 1: engineering some in messing arouse technology, but I had nothing
Speaker 1: like this had been seen before, so they were interacting.
Speaker 1: It was very personal. And after that first encounter like
Speaker 1: that turned my world upside down and I started doing
Speaker 1: some digging, and a couple of months later I had
Speaker 1: my second encounter where I was surrounded by UFOs and
Speaker 1: I I spent basically the night filming them in my
Speaker 1: car in the middle of cornfields. Because I would go
Speaker 1: out to shoot space photography a lot, and I was
Speaker 1: by myself at this time. I would go to rural
Speaker 1: locations and I filmed these craft that were moving around
Speaker 1: and got some really interesting footage of them. And after that,
Speaker 1: I just started seeing them everywhere and it's like they
Speaker 1: were trying to tell me something, and a communication actually
Speaker 1: began to develop with these craft, and it kind of
Speaker 1: took over my life. So I just dedicated my life
Speaker 1: to discovering who these visitors were communicating with them and
Speaker 1: then also documenting some of these encounters because sometimes it
Speaker 1: can sound very very far away, but I mean, there
Speaker 1: are beings right here.
Speaker 2: Would you say, because you were describing the triangle shape craft,
Speaker 2: would you say that those are reminiscent of what we
Speaker 2: see and has been reported in Arizona and some of
Speaker 2: those other locations where there's like triangle shaped craft that
Speaker 2: are in rows or so similar design.
Speaker 1: That definitely could be correlated. I have seen a couple
Speaker 1: other triangular craft. The first one that I saw was
Speaker 1: a diamond shape though, actually.
Speaker 2: Oh, diamond shape, Yeah, that's what I meant to say.
Speaker 1: Diamond, yeah, diamond yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I have seen some triangles too. And then we also
Speaker 1: have the I think it's unacknowledged still, but the t
Speaker 1: R three B government. I think that's a back engineered.
Speaker 2: Reverse engineered craft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think there are legit extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: craft like that too, But there are some differences in
Speaker 1: the way that they look.
Speaker 2: And tell us when the communication started, I mean, you
Speaker 2: must have been shocked at the first sighting, and then
Speaker 2: you're telling us you're seeing them almost regularly. Are they
Speaker 2: are you at a point where you're saying, I'd like
Speaker 2: to see you tonight and they show up, or are
Speaker 2: they just showing up at first?
Speaker 1: They were just showing up, and then it quickly turned
Speaker 1: into well I want to know more. It made me
Speaker 1: hungry to know more. Yeah, so I was actually looking
Speaker 1: back on it, I was kind of crazy because I
Speaker 1: would take my camera out and I would be driving
Speaker 1: around all hours of the night like, okay, appeer a peer,
Speaker 1: can you appear? I want to learn more? And they
Speaker 1: they started showing up really big, and then it became
Speaker 1: kind of this relationship where I would ask them to
Speaker 1: appear and they would appear.
Speaker 2: That's very cool. So, I mean, I'm somebody. I've seen
Speaker 2: them here and the California. I've seen the craft. I
Speaker 2: have not had an experience that you've had where they're
Speaker 2: coming down. When was it shifting or when did it
Speaker 2: shift from visual identification too? They're in my heading to me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: where do you sit? What they get right there? Would
Speaker 2: that would be a big shock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was shocking. Uh. So I was confused as
Speaker 1: to why these lights and these craft were showing up
Speaker 1: all the time and they seemed to be singling me out.
Speaker 1: It really felt isolating too, because other people that I
Speaker 1: told they didn't really believe me. Uh, and they would
Speaker 1: just show up for me like they at the time,
Speaker 1: they weren't showing up for other people, and so I said,
Speaker 1: I just started talking to them telepathically in my head.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if you can hear me,
Speaker 1: but what's going on? Why are you showing up? What
Speaker 1: do you want with me?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What's happening? What is this about? And when I did that,
Speaker 1: the first very verbal communication that came through. I was
Speaker 1: sitting at my desk and asking those questions to them,
Speaker 1: projecting that out to them. And this postcard that I
Speaker 1: had on my wall, which was the famous painting where
Speaker 1: you know you're touching the fingers with God. I can't
Speaker 1: remember that name of the painting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who is the is God and Adam? That's Michaelangelo's
Speaker 2: famous on the ceiling of the sixties chapel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I had a postcard of that from when
Speaker 1: I went to Italy. That painting just always really deeply
Speaker 1: resonated with me. And that postcard was on my wall,
Speaker 1: It was taped on my wall, and it came off
Speaker 1: my wall and it flung at my feet and when
Speaker 1: I picked it up, I heard contact, We want to
Speaker 1: make contact, And that just gave me chills. It gives
Speaker 1: me chills.
Speaker 2: Did you pass out and then wake up after that happened?
Speaker 1: No, I was just like, wow, you know, I thought,
Speaker 1: this is a first contact situation. You know.
Speaker 2: You always funny because we're kind of joking about it,
Speaker 2: but it's so serious. I mean, I I envy you
Speaker 2: because I'm like, I see you, but I'd like to
Speaker 2: know more, you know. I mean, I've been studying it
Speaker 2: for so many years. It's like, stop flying around land
Speaker 2: your damn craft, come out and say Hi, Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you actually had that, so I want to hear about
Speaker 2: the Okay, so the postcard comes off and what do
Speaker 2: they say, Okay, we're here and we want we want
Speaker 2: to communicate with you. Or did you start cockying in
Speaker 2: your head?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I did start. It came more as like feelings.
Speaker 1: It progressed and at the time I would have I
Speaker 1: started having these daily encounters. So then I started dedicating
Speaker 1: every single day to going out and filming and I
Speaker 1: would capture these orbs, these light anomalies, all of these
Speaker 1: crazy phenomenon I started capturing on camera and at the
Speaker 1: time I really needed that because I needed the physical
Speaker 1: evidence aspect. But this was also at the same time
Speaker 1: activating extrasensory perception. So my telepathy started getting stronger, and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I worked at it a bit, but I
Speaker 1: began receiving visions and seeing visions sometimes premonitions, things like
Speaker 1: that throughout the course of these encounters, and I was
Speaker 1: going out and meeting them basically every day. So the
Speaker 1: next big thing that happened turning point, I brought a
Speaker 1: friend with me who was aligned. I think they were
Speaker 1: at a certain frequency to be able to have a
Speaker 1: shared experience with me point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's true. You had to be at
Speaker 2: a certain residence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, yeah, exactly. So I would try and take
Speaker 1: some of my astro photographer friends who thought I was
Speaker 1: just you know, seeing things, and they wouldn't show up
Speaker 1: for them. But you frustrating, Yeah, it was frustrating. But
Speaker 1: then I found somebody who had had UFO encounters before
Speaker 1: and was really into meditation and spirituality. And that was
Speaker 1: new to me, the meditation, all of that. I was
Speaker 1: just starting to kind of get into that, and so
Speaker 1: I asked them. I was like, well, I was so
Speaker 1: excited to have this new friend. I'm like, do you
Speaker 1: want to go out and try to make contact? And
Speaker 1: so we did. We went to this special spot I
Speaker 1: would go too often, and within five minutes a golden
Speaker 1: craft appeared and we could both see it, and it
Speaker 1: telepathically sent me a vision of the inhabitants of the craft.
Speaker 1: So that was my first look at who these beings were.
Speaker 2: Okay, so now you've spilled the beans, lily, they sent
Speaker 2: you a mental impression of the beans in the craft.
Speaker 2: Can you describe them?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So they were light blue, but they looked human,
Speaker 1: and they had no hair, and they had skin tight
Speaker 1: silver uniforms on. So at the time I had never
Speaker 1: seen Star Trek, but it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: like a Star Trek type situation and uniform but there
Speaker 1: were skin tight silver and they looked basically human, like
Speaker 1: if you looked at me and shaved my hair and
Speaker 1: dyed my skin light blue, and that's what they looked like.
Speaker 1: And I would later find that they were from the
Speaker 1: Andromeda constellation.
Speaker 2: And this is all being done telepathically, so you must
Speaker 2: they must have decided to work with you because you
Speaker 2: are able to function on that level. A lot of
Speaker 2: people can't deal with it, but you sound like you're
Speaker 2: very comfortable communicating in that fashion. Is that the number
Speaker 2: one the only way they communicate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I was open minded. It was
Speaker 1: This has all been a big learning process for me
Speaker 1: because I've been learning as I go. I didn't know
Speaker 1: any of this was possible or existed previously, which I
Speaker 1: think that's part of why they chose me, because I
Speaker 1: didn't have any preconceived notions, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: kind of a clean slate and I'm learning as I go.
Speaker 1: But I was open minded and I've always been deeply intuitive,
Speaker 1: so there was already something there for them to work with.
Speaker 2: And so this is ongoing. Yeah, and so how long
Speaker 2: has it been since the initial telepathic communication to now?
Speaker 1: About six years?
Speaker 2: It was pretty it's pretty fresh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they you know, they wanted me originally. I started
Speaker 1: documenting my experiences. I think it could be made into
Speaker 1: a movie.
Speaker 2: Well, you did write a book, yes, so the book
Speaker 2: must have the details of your contact experience, and I
Speaker 2: want to talk about that in a second. You are
Speaker 2: in communication with them to the point where you can
Speaker 2: call them, call them and they show or is it
Speaker 2: more like, hey, we're going to be in your area,
Speaker 2: Lily in a couple of days, would you like to
Speaker 2: meet with us?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: I think it kind of depends you well, so we're
Speaker 1: all connected through consciousness. So really telepathy can be instant,
Speaker 1: especially if you have a connection with these beings. So
Speaker 1: later I would discover part of another big reason why
Speaker 1: they chose me, if you will, is because I have
Speaker 1: a direct connection to them, so I can get into
Speaker 1: contact with them pretty instantly. And you know, sometimes they'll
Speaker 1: show up with their ships. Sometimes I might just have
Speaker 1: a feeling, so they can kind of show up in
Speaker 1: different way. And I've actually developed the ability to be
Speaker 1: able to see them with my eyes open as well
Speaker 1: as through kind of like remote viewing or visual telepathy,
Speaker 1: so I can see them. It almost looks like because
Speaker 1: they're so they're in a different density or frequency. So
Speaker 1: with their ships, when their ships appear, they are shifting
Speaker 1: into our density or frequency. That's why they can disappear
Speaker 1: and appear so quickly.
Speaker 2: They're from a different dimension.
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially five D or higher. So we're like three
Speaker 1: D the third dimension, and they're like they're fifth dimension
Speaker 1: or higher. But they can It gets a little confusing,
Speaker 1: but they can shift their frequency. Picture it like turning
Speaker 1: the dial on a radio. Sure, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to listen to country music, and then you switch it
Speaker 1: over to rock music, and so we're kinda we'll say
Speaker 1: we're country music, and you can kind of turn the
Speaker 1: dial a little bit, and you can do this by
Speaker 1: setting your attention through meditation, through getting into a happy,
Speaker 1: blissful state that's raising your energy, and then you turn
Speaker 1: it over to like we'll say, classical music, and then boom,
Speaker 1: you can see them.
Speaker 2: Do they say that they're able to communicate with you
Speaker 2: because you've incarnated in this lifetime and that you used
Speaker 2: to be with them in another life. Yeah, frequency, you're
Speaker 2: able to communicate because you're cellular level or your frequency
Speaker 2: used to be like theirs because you are in an
Speaker 2: incarnation on their planetary system or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct, Husk Well, and there's there's another
Speaker 1: interesting twist is the being who is contacting me. This
Speaker 1: might sound crazier out there, but the main female who
Speaker 1: is contact means she I would later find that she
Speaker 1: was actually me from the future. So I think a
Speaker 1: lot of these beings are actually us from the future
Speaker 1: coming back to help raise our consciousness, to divert us
Speaker 1: from destruction of the planet atomic weapon. You know, they're
Speaker 1: trying to help gently steer us in the right direction. Now,
Speaker 1: there's many, many layers to the UFO and extraterrestrial phenomenon,
Speaker 1: but that's just one layer. And you know, I thought
Speaker 1: that sounded kind of crazy, but once I started hearing
Speaker 1: other people's contact experiences. A lot of people, you know,
Speaker 1: and there's way more than you would think, who have
Speaker 1: had these experiences. A lot of them say that these
Speaker 1: beings say that they are their star family, they are
Speaker 1: related to them, they've previously incarnated as them, or they're
Speaker 1: even communicating with a version of them from the future.
Speaker 1: So time isn't what we think it is either, it's
Speaker 1: fluid in these craft are actually like time traveling machines UFOs.
Speaker 2: How far back do they go in our evolution? Are
Speaker 2: they aware or have they been aware of us way
Speaker 2: way back when we were hunters and gatherers, or are
Speaker 2: they a more recent observational group.
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the species. But there's definitely
Speaker 1: been extraterrestrial intervention and watching since our inception.
Speaker 2: Wow, and what would you say the messages other than
Speaker 2: you know, don't drop nuclear bombs because it hurts everybody,
Speaker 2: not just on your planet, it hurts people outside in
Speaker 2: our cosmos. But you must be getting you must have
Speaker 2: you must be at a place now where you're like,
Speaker 2: I got the big message. Now they're filtering down and
Speaker 2: give you subtle messages or teachings or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Is it a teacher student kind of relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes it is. You know, they've trained me on
Speaker 1: different things like working with the energy centers, healing yourself,
Speaker 1: healing others. It really took me down a personal development
Speaker 1: path as well as developing extrasensory perception like remote viewing, cognition,
Speaker 1: things like that and which you know, the government's been
Speaker 1: toying around with that for many decades viewing. Sure, yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: So they're not some people are surprised that extrasensory perception
Speaker 1: is a thing, but it's not. That's that's not new.
Speaker 1: So we have these gifts and abilities that are within us.
Speaker 1: So one of the main messages and things that they
Speaker 1: share with me is well tapping into our true potential,
Speaker 1: our power. We're starting to remember who we are, our
Speaker 1: connection to the stars, our history. A lot of our
Speaker 1: history has been erased, like Graham Hancock says, we are
Speaker 1: a history of we are a species of amnesia.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So the hints are being dropped, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of corruption on the planet. So currently I'm
Speaker 1: getting a lot of messages about kind of some things
Speaker 1: going on underneath the surface that are starting to be
Speaker 1: revealed so that humanity can really step up and decide
Speaker 1: for ourselves what we want and get rid of some
Speaker 1: of these dark players, if you will. So that's a
Speaker 1: lot of the messaging that I'm getting.
Speaker 2: Now, can you highlight one or two points that they
Speaker 2: have presented to you on the amnesia part who we were,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of people who are uncovering evidence
Speaker 2: of a lost civilization, and I'm not talking about Atlantis.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about a period where human evolution was very,
Speaker 2: very high. Then there was a catastrophic event on Earth
Speaker 2: that basically wiped that knowledge out and we're kind of
Speaker 2: relearning and restepping into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that's happened quite a few
Speaker 1: times actually, So you know, if you go back to
Speaker 1: kind of the inception, you've got the Onnochi story, and
Speaker 1: I've seen blips and pieces of that, so there's definitely
Speaker 1: an on Aachy connection. And then there was kind of
Speaker 1: a messing with our genetics. There was different genes put
Speaker 1: into place that would kind of make us more susceptible
Speaker 1: to forgetting to following the crowd. So we're kind of
Speaker 1: correcting that right now, I think, through our evolution. But
Speaker 1: then you also have like Atlantis, you have Lumeria, and
Speaker 1: there are conspiracies and talk about Tartaria as well, which
Speaker 1: would be a much more recent kind of eraser erasure
Speaker 1: of advanced knowledge. So, I mean, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how many times I think it's happened, probably at least
Speaker 1: five times where we've been kind of reset and we
Speaker 1: don't live very long, so it wouldn't be very hard exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean amnesia is at a big deal. It's
Speaker 2: like every generation has amnesia, really, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we can't even barely remember what happened
Speaker 1: a few decades ago or yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is your role, Lily? What I mean you're
Speaker 2: coming out and you're saying, Hey, I've been in contact.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I've written about it. Here's my proof in
Speaker 2: this book. But you're very brave to be doing what
Speaker 2: you're doing because you're from say Lewis, there's black people
Speaker 2: must be thinking she is out of her Can you
Speaker 2: know here in California, you would be more like, oh,
Speaker 2: come on down, you know, but uh, you know, Midwesterners
Speaker 2: probably think you're nuts.
Speaker 1: Well a good a good portion, but you know, I
Speaker 1: kind of people started to I mean, I got the evidence,
Speaker 1: I got the receipts. So eventually the people who are
Speaker 1: giving me so much trouble they had to kind of
Speaker 1: be quiet. But you know, I still get it. I
Speaker 1: still get the comments, what drugs are you on? And
Speaker 1: these experiences I'm having are completely sober. I don't use
Speaker 1: drugs to have these experiences. And what's amazing is I
Speaker 1: think anybody can have, you know, a kind of deeply
Speaker 1: spiritual experience or maybe even a contact experience. You just
Speaker 1: have to be of a certain level of consciousness and frequency,
Speaker 1: and you can do that naturally through breath work and
Speaker 1: meditation and things like that, but you have to put
Speaker 1: in the time and effort. So my role has kind
Speaker 1: of shifted and it's evolving. At first, it was showing
Speaker 1: the evidence because I was a space photographer, so I
Speaker 1: was documenting a lot of these and also for people
Speaker 1: who are starting to have these experiences, I think documenting
Speaker 1: it in my first book, like the details of how
Speaker 1: they made contact, how they would appear, how they work,
Speaker 1: some of the messages are connection to them. I think
Speaker 1: that kind of laid out an easy guide to help
Speaker 1: people understand if they either are having experiences or if
Speaker 1: they're drawn to that sort of they're curious and now I,
Speaker 1: you know, I facilitate meditations. I use the gifts that
Speaker 1: I've developed to help people. But also and I was
Speaker 1: just looking up the woman who you interviewed previously who
Speaker 1: was talking about human design. So on my human design,
Speaker 1: I am what's known as as a projector or a seer,
Speaker 1: and I was just looking that up because it's been
Speaker 1: a while since I looked it up, and it talks
Speaker 1: about how I have a or these projectors. They have
Speaker 1: a gift of seeing something the way others can't. Either
Speaker 1: that's reading into people, devising systems or designing new ways
Speaker 1: of doing things, and it's as success comes when you
Speaker 1: share that seeing with others. So I see what's unfolding
Speaker 1: on the planet. This is what a lot of my
Speaker 1: content has been about now, and I help people to
Speaker 1: make sense of it and help people to kind of
Speaker 1: see the deeper levels that's going on, and also helping
Speaker 1: to facilitate disclosure Well, this is.
Speaker 2: The question that I have, and it's a huge frustration,
Speaker 2: and I'd like you to address it. Not all of
Speaker 2: us are ready to have a contact, but our government
Speaker 2: has been very, very obstructive in allowing anything to happen.
Speaker 2: It goes as far back and you might already know
Speaker 2: about this, to the Brookings Institute document that was requested
Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties to see how Americans would react
Speaker 2: to a first contact.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And it's my belief in many others that this document
Speaker 2: still is adhere to by our government, the Department of Defense,
Speaker 2: NASA and so forth and so on, even in the
Speaker 2: face of people like yourself who are having these wonderful
Speaker 2: experiences that seems wonderful at least I don't hear you
Speaker 2: talking about nightmares or turning into an organ or anything.
Speaker 2: But I'm curious if you could address that. Why what
Speaker 2: do they tell you about a broader audience having similar experiences,
Speaker 2: or to be more direct, allowing the audience to know
Speaker 2: that we're not the only ones.
Speaker 1: H are you talking about? Like in relation to the government, I'm.
Speaker 2: Talking about why we don't have more experience people having
Speaker 2: any experiences like yours and white because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people who say we're the only ones in the
Speaker 2: in the cosmos. If you're a religious person, you're very
Speaker 2: very careful not to say there's anything but us.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well so yeah, I mean there's this there's
Speaker 1: this idea of free will, and a lot of extraterrestrial
Speaker 1: beings adhere by that, and they're supposed to the free
Speaker 1: law free will. So if there are people who are
Speaker 1: completely like, no way block that out, they're blocking themselves
Speaker 1: from having that experience and yeah, yeah, so maybe that's
Speaker 1: not their path. Me on the other hand, I wasn't
Speaker 1: in the UFO community. I wasn't in the spiritual community.
Speaker 1: But I grew up watching show and wondering, Oh, I
Speaker 1: wonder what could be out there? You know, just I
Speaker 1: always had that curiosity about what life really is, what
Speaker 1: is reality? Is there a god? You know, like I
Speaker 1: was just always curious about that. I didn't really have
Speaker 1: any programming that was keeping me into this little box.
Speaker 1: I was open minded. So we've really got to dissolve
Speaker 1: the old programming. And there's been i mean corrupt factions
Speaker 1: that are trying very hard to steer and I've been
Speaker 1: doing this for a long time, steering our perception into
Speaker 1: a way that fits their needs, like with the church,
Speaker 1: not you know, not saying that all church is bad
Speaker 1: or all religious people are bad, nothing like that. I
Speaker 1: never had a religious uprising, but I see the religious
Speaker 1: programming where, you know, some factions you have to go
Speaker 1: through a piece of a priest to have to talk
Speaker 1: to God. No, you can talk to source or the
Speaker 1: universe or whatever you want to call it. You can
Speaker 1: do that yourself. You don't need to go through an
Speaker 1: outside So they're taking your power away. You have to
Speaker 1: rely on that we're the only ones, and there's just
Speaker 1: kind of a lot of lies and inversions trickled in
Speaker 1: that kind of keep us boxed in. So that's a
Speaker 1: process that we're going to have to break free from.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people would be shopped.
Speaker 1: It's happening in a drip disclosure way, is what they've
Speaker 1: shared with me. It's kind of like we'll get one
Speaker 1: thing and Okay, now we integrate that, and now we
Speaker 1: get this next thing. Okay, it opens our mind a
Speaker 1: little bit more, and then we integrate that and so
Speaker 1: on and so forth.
Speaker 2: So the next question is what do they tell you
Speaker 2: about more of a disclosure we know that in June
Speaker 2: of this year, the Steven Spielberg's new movie on the
Speaker 2: Disclosure is coming out. Every time he comes up with
Speaker 2: a movie, I think we move a little bit more
Speaker 2: because he's a He does it in a very gentle way.
Speaker 2: In some levels, other people are having nightmares after it's over.
Speaker 2: What does that say to you? And also what does
Speaker 2: your contact say to you about more of a large unveiling.
Speaker 1: Well, we're going through a big year right now. I
Speaker 1: think this year and next year are going to be
Speaker 1: really big for disclosure. And even I think that movie,
Speaker 1: the movies do they play a big role into seeding
Speaker 1: that information into the collective. And it looks like even
Speaker 1: from the trailer of that movie, they're showing like a
Speaker 1: almost like a channeling where the being is speaking through her,
Speaker 1: which is new. You don't you haven't seen that in
Speaker 1: a big movie that I can remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: So that's a whole new kind of aspect that's being
Speaker 1: seen in the collective. So that's going to be big,
Speaker 1: I think so. And then you had, you know, the
Speaker 1: President say, not too long ago, he ordered to start
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact wording of it, but to
Speaker 1: start getting all the files together to disclosing UFO and
Speaker 1: extraterrestrial stuff. He said that not too long ago, in
Speaker 1: the last month, so that and you know why he
Speaker 1: said that because people were calling for it. So that's
Speaker 1: another thing that is us. That's humanity standing up and
Speaker 1: saying we want disclosure, we want to know. The more
Speaker 1: of us stand up and like demand that it's going
Speaker 1: to start moving the needle forward, instead of us saying nope,
Speaker 1: blocking that up. Oh nope, that's that's just a joke
Speaker 1: that can exist, not saying that we need to rely
Speaker 1: on the government for disclosure, because I think it really
Speaker 1: happens through us and through these conversations. But you know,
Speaker 1: it would be nice for them to acknowledge it for
Speaker 1: once and stop trying to suppress it. Yep.
Speaker 2: What do the beans say about AI? Do they say?
Speaker 2: It's because sometimes I and I've just got turned on
Speaker 2: to it the last few months. I'm like totally overwhelmed
Speaker 2: me and not in a bad way. I love it.
Speaker 2: It's like a real wonderful assistant. But do the beans
Speaker 2: have any idea about it? It feels kind of alien in
Speaker 2: some respects, Like this is a support tool that is
Speaker 2: going to grow and it is growing exponentially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so AI can be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: double edged sword, and speaking through experiences in what I'm
Speaker 1: seeing AI is it depends on who's programming it and
Speaker 1: who's feeding it. So there are you know, certain AIS.
Speaker 1: I think chat GPT just got in some trouble and
Speaker 1: they're getting some slack. So there are some things where
Speaker 1: it doesn't always tell the accurate truth, or it may
Speaker 1: suppress some things, so just be careful about that. I
Speaker 1: think it can be an amazing tool to assist you,
Speaker 1: but just always just don't take what AI says and
Speaker 1: then because yeah, exactly exactly so, and they're they're catching
Speaker 1: some flack right now, I think even getting into some
Speaker 1: legal trouble with some of the stuff that's come through it.
Speaker 1: So just be mindful. I think AI, the future civilizations,
Speaker 1: they all probably use some sort of an AI to
Speaker 1: assist just and that's just how it is to become.
Speaker 1: I think it's a natural part of our evolution. I
Speaker 1: think that would help free up more of our time
Speaker 1: to be creative.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just have to be mindful because I have
Speaker 1: seen you know, lies come through it or people who
Speaker 1: are kind of giving all their power away to it.
Speaker 1: You have to be mindful about that.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I've seen it break up a marriage because this AI
Speaker 1: was telling this woman all these terrible things that her
Speaker 1: partner was doing and putting all these things in her head.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, and I think there was actually a like
Speaker 1: a This might sound crazy, but like a dark entity
Speaker 1: working through the AI is what it sounded like.
Speaker 2: And if they have little personalities at work, you're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Some people have said it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a Ouiji board.
Speaker 2: You're channeling some form of energy. Yeah, funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So just be mindful with it, and I think
Speaker 1: set some boundaries with it, and I think it could
Speaker 1: be very helpful, but it also really depends on who's
Speaker 1: feeding it, who's programming it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been speaking with Lily Nova. She will be
Speaker 2: speaking at the New Living Expo April seventeen, eighteen nineteenth.
Speaker 2: What day are you speaking? What time?
Speaker 1: I am speaking on Friday the seventeenth, I believe at
Speaker 1: ten a m pt.
Speaker 2: Okay cool? And are you going to be on a
Speaker 2: panel discussion on ET context or anything?
Speaker 5: I would hope you know.
Speaker 1: I have to leave a little bit early. I'm leaving
Speaker 1: on Sunday, to go to another conference, so I will
Speaker 1: be doing a workshop where I later on on Friday.
Speaker 1: I'll have to double check the time where I'll be
Speaker 1: facilitating a meditation with my singing bowls, kind of a
Speaker 1: cosmic activation. But I think i might miss miss the
Speaker 1: panels because I'm leaving a little bit early.
Speaker 2: Okay, as we depart, talk a little if you can't
Speaker 2: about the different beings that you have connected with, and
Speaker 2: is this a connection where you're seeing them physically or
Speaker 2: is it more of a of a telepathy interaction.
Speaker 1: Telepathic so a lot of it is telepathy, or I'll
Speaker 1: see their ships, like I said, which I've been able
Speaker 1: to document some of these case says. But I've also
Speaker 1: developed the ability to see them with my eyes open,
Speaker 1: sometimes on ground level with me. And it's interesting because
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll just see them before a couple of seconds,
Speaker 1: or I will see kind of their energetic signature. Or
Speaker 1: I've also had it to where they've like opened up
Speaker 1: a window portal. I know this sounds crazy, but they've
Speaker 1: opened up like a window portal, UH and I could see,
Speaker 1: you know, from being in like my bedroom for example,
Speaker 1: and I could see through this portal into UH and
Speaker 1: see them looking at me. So I know it's crazy,
Speaker 1: I know, but I mean, no.
Speaker 2: It's not. It's just it's just like it's like like
Speaker 2: you said, it's another dimension. It's a dimensional kind of reality,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And sometimes I'll ask how do you do that?
Speaker 1: How are you doing that? And a lot of times
Speaker 1: I'll get the response, it's quantum, that's what they say.
Speaker 2: It's it's quite a bit. It's our machinery. We've worked
Speaker 2: it out. You get to figure it out. Do you
Speaker 2: get a sense that And I'm kind of thinking to
Speaker 2: Star Trek that there'll be a collaborative kind of relationship
Speaker 2: where we can get science that we don't turn into
Speaker 2: into weapons, because that's the big fear with Americans, where
Speaker 2: we want to be up on the next guy. But
Speaker 2: kind of an because for me personally, and I've understood
Speaker 2: what you're dealing with in your experience a lot, many
Speaker 2: many decades. But my feeling is that when we know
Speaker 2: thoroughly that we're not the only ones in the universe,
Speaker 2: we evolve automatically. We automatically evolve, but it has to
Speaker 2: be almost like flesh and blood to see a being
Speaker 2: from another planetary system in front of me. And say hey,
Speaker 2: welcome to the brotherhood. You know what I mean. I'll
Speaker 2: be kind of funky about it, but my truth is
Speaker 2: is that I want to be I want to change
Speaker 2: and welcome these people in. So I'm talking a lot
Speaker 2: about letting speak. But what do you think about that idea?
Speaker 1: I mean, no, I agree one hundred percent. I do
Speaker 1: believe we are heading towards a star Trek future. And
Speaker 1: I think within the next couple of decades, you know,
Speaker 1: I've gotten, I've got I've received the message twenty thirties,
Speaker 1: there will be more boots on the ground with us.
Speaker 1: This could be twenty thirties, twenty forties. But also there
Speaker 1: are already beings here. I've seen them walking around kind
Speaker 1: of cloaked before, in places like Sedona, Arizona, and Mount Shasta, California,
Speaker 1: which I go there each summer, where there's a lot
Speaker 1: of high strangeness, a lot of UFO activity. I've seen
Speaker 1: them and sometimes sometimes they look very human. They'll just
Speaker 1: be a little bit different. So I think some of
Speaker 1: them are actually already walking among us, but they will
Speaker 1: be more of an open introduction within the next decade
Speaker 1: or two, I think, where it'll be more like more
Speaker 1: of a face to face interaction. We've got some work
Speaker 1: to do to prepare everybody for that, but I think
Speaker 1: we're heading in that way. And the ones who they
Speaker 1: will introduce first are the ones who look most like us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the what do they call the Nordtic whites
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Pleiadians, the or the Nordics, they look
Speaker 1: very similar to us. They're a little bit bigger, taller,
Speaker 1: very beautiful, the blonde hair, and possibly even some of
Speaker 1: the inner Earth beings I've heard, like Alpha Centauri, you know,
Speaker 1: they some of them look very human like. And there
Speaker 1: are closest star system are The closest star system to
Speaker 1: us is Alpha Centauri. You'll notice there are shows about
Speaker 1: going to Alpha Centari and starting a new civilization. So
Speaker 1: I think that's disclosure kind of rippling out, so different
Speaker 1: things like that I think will be the first to
Speaker 1: be introduced to.
Speaker 2: Fantastic Lily. Really a pleasure having you on the program,
Speaker 2: and I think you're probably gonna have a full house
Speaker 2: for your talk because there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: are really itching for the change that happens sooner rather
Speaker 2: than later.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I hear you. I've been into it for
Speaker 1: six years now, and I can't even imagine people who
Speaker 1: have been into it for like twenty years, twenty thirty years.
Speaker 1: I would get impatient. Honestly, I have to.
Speaker 2: Let it go because I get I'm almost angry about
Speaker 2: it because it's like they've known, they've been here for
Speaker 2: a while and they've been flying around. It's like, really,
Speaker 2: just land your craft and come out and say hi.
Speaker 2: But it's dangerous because here the Americans are like shoot first, Yeah,
Speaker 2: ask questions later. We're just so neandertolic, so don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we've got to get a lot of
Speaker 1: the shadowy factions out of the way, or else it
Speaker 1: just wouldn't go well. So that we're kind of we're
Speaker 1: we're taking out, We're taking the bad guys out on
Speaker 1: the inside so that we can evolve. Basically is the
Speaker 1: stage we're in right now. We're doing a massive clean
Speaker 1: up on the planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quickly, tell us about your book. What's it about?
Speaker 2: And is it on I didn't see if it was
Speaker 2: it on Amazon?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's on Amazon, so it's called tech Well I
Speaker 1: actually did see that great cover. Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I designed that. It's basically me looking up at this
Speaker 1: it do look like you. Yeah, with the camera in
Speaker 1: my hand looking up at the UFOs. That kind of
Speaker 1: captures the essence of what I was experiencing. And I
Speaker 1: do have other artwork in here, just to kind of
Speaker 1: show I do have some photographs of that.
Speaker 2: I need an AI for your cover work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. And here's one of the beings that
Speaker 1: the drama.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Is that a photograph that you took or is
Speaker 2: that a kind of a manipulated photograph?
Speaker 1: Well, it's an AI depiction, Okay. I use this AI
Speaker 1: program to create and now, so that's the first being
Speaker 1: that I ever saw. And that's one of my main
Speaker 1: contacts from the Andromeda com.
Speaker 2: What planet Andromeda?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Androma Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Wow, amazing. Yeah, Well we could talk forever. I hope
Speaker 2: you sell out your books and have a good crowd
Speaker 2: and keep up the good work. Let's have you back
Speaker 2: in a year after you've published your second or third
Speaker 2: or fourth book.
Speaker 1: Oh you know, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: My life is just crazy.
Speaker 2: Because you're in demand to speak, or just because this
Speaker 2: is opening up a whole portal of new opportunities.
Speaker 1: Well, I've had a lot of different experiences so I
Speaker 1: could go in. So I just needed to kind of
Speaker 1: sit down and figure out which direction I would like
Speaker 1: to This just covers the first year, which a lot
Speaker 1: happened I took. I took a year off work. I
Speaker 1: was living off credit cards to really deep dive into
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on.
Speaker 2: It's because you felt you were like you were traumatized
Speaker 2: and you just couldn't continue your regular life anymore.
Speaker 1: I mean I felt almost like I was in not quicksand,
Speaker 1: but like really thick mud, Like I could not my body.
Speaker 1: I'm always a hard worker, I've never been without a job,
Speaker 1: but my body literally would not let me. It was
Speaker 1: like the universe. So it was a divine intervention. The
Speaker 1: universe was like, no, you need to sit and just
Speaker 1: follow this path and see where it unfolds.
Speaker 2: You learned that the experience was so profound that your
Speaker 2: body said, we're resting, You're not getting enough to go
Speaker 2: to work.
Speaker 1: Well kind of, yeah. I was growing a lot, I
Speaker 1: was learning a lot, and I focused literally every waking
Speaker 1: hour on the pursuit of truth and personal development. So
Speaker 1: I took that first year and I was out documenting
Speaker 1: the UFOs every day. I wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: do that if I was working a nine to five job.
Speaker 2: Wow, amazing, my god, I want to go check out
Speaker 2: your talk. I think they're only half an hour though,
Speaker 2: so you have to get as much as you can
Speaker 2: in that time period. So Lily, a real pleasure. Continue
Speaker 2: success and let's have you back on the program for
Speaker 2: a more full interview.
Speaker 1: Sounds good. It was a pleasure being here. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Hey, we have a few spots left on the Grand
Speaker 2: Egyptian Tour April twenty eight through May tenth. If you
Speaker 2: want to squeeze in, let me know, send me an
Speaker 2: email at Earth Ancients, the number four LETTERU at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com. I'd say two or three spots, and this
Speaker 2: is one for the books with all the new discoveries
Speaker 2: in Egypt. But if you haven't heard, there's apparently a
Speaker 2: second sphinx that's been found. We'll talk with Beyond the
Speaker 2: Filipo Beyond the probably in the next week or two
Speaker 2: about this discovery using Czar imagery, So we're going to
Speaker 2: check that out. But we're mostly looking at Old Kingdom sites,
Speaker 2: which has some of the largest sculpture and megalists that
Speaker 2: have ever been recorded and it's strange because the Old World,
Speaker 2: pre Dynastic and Old Kingdom have the largest statuary, temples,
Speaker 2: pyramids and whatever else you can imagine. So why is
Speaker 2: that all about. Well, well we'll have to figure that
Speaker 2: out anyhow. If you want to join us, go to
Speaker 2: Earth Ancients dot com, forward slash Tours and we'd love
Speaker 2: to have you. All right, that's it for this program.
Speaker 2: I want to tak my guest today Neil Garr, producer
Speaker 2: of the New Living Expo, Mariah Miller, the Life Coach
Speaker 2: and Lily Nova. The experiences are all very interesting in
Speaker 2: the provocative guests all right. As always, I want to
Speaker 2: think Gail Tour, Mark Foster and Faya Pavar. You guys rock.
Speaker 2: All right, that's it for this week.
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