Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, aj Ben's are here with fame? Is it? Bitch?
Speaker 1: This is your daily Unfiltered podcast for November twenty second,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. One two two, two oh two four wow,
Speaker 1: three four five twos. It's a full house of twos,
Speaker 1: which is impossible but looks pretty cool. What's going on again?
Speaker 1: It's Friday, and I gotta tell you, I'm very pissed
Speaker 1: off about this whole situation with Overcast not getting the
Speaker 1: Patreon show to you folks, and it's infuriating because I
Speaker 1: can't reach all of you and speak to you personally.
Speaker 1: All I can do is leave a message on the
Speaker 1: Patreon app to tell you to listen to the show
Speaker 1: on Patreon, do not go to Overcast. I can put
Speaker 1: a message on my Facebook page, on my podcast obsessed page,
Speaker 1: but there are people who listen who aren't involved with
Speaker 1: Facebook or go into the Patreon app to write, so
Speaker 1: I hope they don't split and think that the show's over.
Speaker 1: I hope they write me. If you know anybody who's
Speaker 1: having problems not getting the show, please let them know
Speaker 1: what the deal is. Stay the fuck away from Overcast.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Overcast is still getting the free
Speaker 1: shows out but not the Patreon shows. So Adavino put
Speaker 1: some instructions up. Go to the Patreon page to look
Speaker 1: at it. I left the message otherwise I want to
Speaker 1: climb a tower with a rifle right now where the
Speaker 1: Overcast offices are. This is pissed me off, just suddenly.
Speaker 1: This is what I can't stand, Like, you know, who
Speaker 1: do you argue with Overcast? Where do you go? Who
Speaker 1: do you call? As if they answer phones over there?
Speaker 1: It's like today I want to get so I want
Speaker 1: to strangle somebody. I'm in a good mood. Things have
Speaker 1: about a good day, but yet something like this happens,
Speaker 1: and I want to scream. You know, my credit's not
Speaker 1: the best credit, right so I've been fixing. Even the
Speaker 1: guy that got me this apartment goes, yeah, your credit's
Speaker 1: not a big deal. It's you know, some credit card
Speaker 1: depth and you don't know ten of thousands of I said,
Speaker 1: I know, it's so stupid. You know, I got a
Speaker 1: few credit cards to make my credit better. I pay
Speaker 1: them on time. I never never go over the limit.
Speaker 1: I'm never late, and he guys, I know. So I
Speaker 1: always get these messages from credit karma. I get these
Speaker 1: emails AJ, your credit your numbers have gone up, and
Speaker 1: I'll check it. Oh, okay, it's up to blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Oh I gained fifteen points. Then I get a message today, AJ,
Speaker 1: your credit took your hit. Okay, why is that? I
Speaker 1: look because a credit card company that they told me
Speaker 1: to look at to make my credit better. They offered me, hey,
Speaker 1: you should look at these credit cards. This has been
Speaker 1: good for your credit. So I applied for one and
Speaker 1: I get it. I haven't even used it yet, and
Speaker 1: they took fifty points off my credit score because it
Speaker 1: appears you've opened a credit card. Yeah, you told me
Speaker 1: to open one. You mother fifty points for opening a
Speaker 1: credit fifty not five. It's just that's the joke again.
Speaker 1: Do you know anybody that works for credit Karma? Other
Speaker 1: people there are just robots. Speaking of robots, I know
Speaker 1: people have different feelings about this. I'm talking about Matt Gates.
Speaker 1: Don't worry, it's not a political show. I got a
Speaker 1: great Denzel Washington story to tell you a personal story.
Speaker 1: But I told you four or five days ago, Matt
Speaker 1: Gates would not make it. He would not become Attorney general.
Speaker 1: It's a stupid idea there were those of you out
Speaker 1: there who thinking this is a great He's gonna kill
Speaker 1: for Trump, he's such a loyalist. Yeah, okay, there are
Speaker 1: plenty of people who are loyal to Trump who don't
Speaker 1: do good things, who fuck up. Okay, his lawyer number
Speaker 1: one was real loyalty, real loyal So is Scarramucci a
Speaker 1: loyalist to Trump. They're assholes. Matt Gates is an asshole
Speaker 1: and a laos And I told you then on Politics
Speaker 1: a bitch, and I mentioned it briefly on Fame. If
Speaker 1: you can't tell by looking at his face and watching
Speaker 1: him in action, if you really don't, if you really
Speaker 1: don't believe that there's a cocaine kind of situation around
Speaker 1: him and younger girls, and him having a folder with
Speaker 1: their names on it and showing some people of the
Speaker 1: girls he was with. He's told these stories to other
Speaker 1: people on Capitol Hill. They find it disgusting. The guy's
Speaker 1: no good. But I still have people, Oh, you're wrong,
Speaker 1: you're wrong. I'm not wrong, I'm right, and do me
Speaker 1: a favor. I love you, guys, but some of you
Speaker 1: are still so fucking concerned about did you see who
Speaker 1: lost in fucking Colorado? Did you see this, gaya, this
Speaker 1: person's gonna lose this. It's like, hold it, hold it.
Speaker 1: Can we just relax? We just had the biggest political
Speaker 1: comeback story of our lives, possibly in American history. Our
Speaker 1: guy one the House of the Senate are going to
Speaker 1: be ours. It was a landslide. And you're still gonna
Speaker 1: complain and get worried about shit. Calm down. Let me
Speaker 1: fucking enjoy this. I don't want to go back to
Speaker 1: being critical. Oh you see what happened to Carry Lake?
Speaker 1: I don't give it. Clearly something's wrong with Carrie Lake.
Speaker 1: Clearly she's not who she pretends to be. There's something
Speaker 1: about Carrie Lake that some people in that state know,
Speaker 1: and she can't get over the top. Is it always cheating?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Two straight chances can't make it happen.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But I'm not gonna worry about those people.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna worry about Matt Gates and who's
Speaker 1: gonna come up behind him. But there was gonna be
Speaker 1: a very devastating congressional ethics report on him about drug
Speaker 1: use and about sexual misconduct. That was always over his
Speaker 1: head and he knew it. And by the way, Another
Speaker 1: female witness said she saw this little sexual episode happened
Speaker 1: with her seventeen year old friend. She saw them both
Speaker 1: naked back in twenty seventeen at a big party they
Speaker 1: called a rager. You don't want to be tied to
Speaker 1: parties that are called ragers, especially now with Diddy and
Speaker 1: the freak offs. People have a bad taste in their mouths.
Speaker 1: If you're partying and Matt Gates is young, He's allowed
Speaker 1: to go to parties, he's allowed to have sex with women,
Speaker 1: but not seventeen year olds. And if there's any drug use,
Speaker 1: calm down. I got a great drug story. Excuse me
Speaker 1: that water went down the road part great Denzel Washington
Speaker 1: drug story. I wouldn't tell this except Denzel was talking
Speaker 1: about how he's straight and how he was in trouble
Speaker 1: for years with drugs and wine, and all right, that
Speaker 1: opened the door for me to talk and lets me
Speaker 1: have another chapter in my book, which, believe it or not,
Speaker 1: I am putting together, but uh, not nearly quick enough.
Speaker 1: The other thing that got me pissed off today Jesse
Speaker 1: Smolette and what the fuck are we doing? We all
Speaker 1: know the guy's guilty, we knew it. We knew it
Speaker 1: when Kim Fox did all she could to overturn things
Speaker 1: and get him out of jail. That frig face. Remember
Speaker 1: Kim Fox, how bad she was, Like Letitia James conjoined twin,
Speaker 1: I swear to God or separated at birth with the
Speaker 1: Latitia James. But this is a joke, and it's such
Speaker 1: a joke that I don't even care. It doesn't even matter.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna give a shit that. Does anybody think
Speaker 1: Jesse Spilett was really innocent? I mean, you can watch
Speaker 1: the video of the two African guys who are supposedly
Speaker 1: the guys who put a hood over his head and
Speaker 1: started telling them, are you that faggot on him? Empire? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we Mega wear Mega. I forget the black guy's names
Speaker 1: that let's call him Bob loves Abashola. Two Nigerian guys
Speaker 1: who are gay half gay, who get massages with Jesse,
Speaker 1: get him drugs. He pays them for drugs. They are
Speaker 1: in cahoots. The guys came forward and told the truth
Speaker 1: and now it's overturned. Listen, after all these years at
Speaker 1: his core, we know Jesse Smilett is a sociopath. He'll
Speaker 1: never apologize for what happened. He's refused to acknowledge what
Speaker 1: he did and how sinful it was to basically turn
Speaker 1: Americans against each other for his gain, for his career,
Speaker 1: to do better than to have a weekly part, a
Speaker 1: big part on a hit show. Now he wanted more.
Speaker 1: So we used white people and a fake lynching to
Speaker 1: get his way, and it didn't work, and now it works.
Speaker 1: Chicago's all fucked up, all sorts of fucked up. The
Speaker 1: guy's gaslighting Americans. He's gonna run around now streaming is innocent.
Speaker 1: I told you I was innocent. I told you. But
Speaker 1: there are countless pieces of evidence against this asshole, this
Speaker 1: witness testimony. The guy's full of hatred. And don't forget
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was the first one to jump up and
Speaker 1: say that it was a racial attack. She did all
Speaker 1: she could to pit whites against black She tried Obama
Speaker 1: two point zero. Patrick Bett David is always on Instagram
Speaker 1: and Facebook, what have you. The guy really made quite
Speaker 1: a name for himself as an interviewer. He mentioned something
Speaker 1: really profound and I think we think this, but to
Speaker 1: hear it said was interesting that Barack Obama is like done,
Speaker 1: He's done. You know if Kamala won, then obviously we
Speaker 1: would get another four years of Obama, maybe eight years.
Speaker 1: Who knew? We don't know. But after all that said
Speaker 1: and done.
Speaker 2: He scolded people, he argued with people, he begged, he
Speaker 2: begged America, he scolded young black man, and his words
Speaker 2: meant nothing.
Speaker 1: Wow, good good. That should put an end to him
Speaker 1: and an end to Michelle Obama running one day because
Speaker 1: their words didn't mean jack shit. Don't ever forget that. Finally,
Speaker 1: before I launched it to my Denzel story, this is
Speaker 1: not a story, just something that gets my goat. It
Speaker 1: gets my goat. I listened to Joe Rogan often enough.
Speaker 1: I never listened to his fight shows or when he
Speaker 1: has these people from all sorts of life that I
Speaker 1: actually give a shit about. So and so is a
Speaker 1: cellular scientist at the universe. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: this guy talk. But actors, actresses, you know, leading people
Speaker 1: of the world. Yeah, I'll check it out. So we've
Speaker 1: got Josh Brolin on. And by the way, Josh bro
Speaker 1: here's what's happening with big podcasts. This is not good.
Speaker 1: It's good when podcasts do things in their own lane
Speaker 1: and their quirky lane, but now you've got a few
Speaker 1: podcasts lined up as basically being a pit stop that
Speaker 1: all the late night shows used to be for people
Speaker 1: pitching movies, pitching books, pitching TV series, pitching awards. Suddenly,
Speaker 1: in the last week I heard Bob's and mechas on
Speaker 1: three different podcasts. The director you know of Forrest Gump
Speaker 1: for one thing, and that new film which I'm not
Speaker 1: going to see with the camera stays in one position,
Speaker 1: it's just one room. And Tom Hanks got deaged along
Speaker 1: with what's her name from Princess Briane. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that movie? But what was I saying? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so aggravated today, Hollywood? Whatever's happened to Hollywood?
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan? Oh God, where am I anyhow? Joe Rogan? Oh,
Speaker 1: all these actors are making pit stops. So the latest
Speaker 1: one is Josh Brolin. Josh brow was on Joe Rogan Today,
Speaker 1: two days ago, he was on SmartLess or on Flying
Speaker 1: the Wall with Spaden Carvey. Then he was with Mark
Speaker 1: Marin three times in a week. He's pitching his book
Speaker 1: Don't do This, Don't do This. I mean. Brolin's always
Speaker 1: a fun guest. He likes to say a lot of
Speaker 1: crazy shit. He talked about his mother being absolutely bonkers,
Speaker 1: the chick that James Brolin married. I mean, it's amazing
Speaker 1: Josh even to this age. So he's got an interesting story.
Speaker 1: But I don't need to hear Bob's at Mecha's on
Speaker 1: three different shows, you know, or just I hope some
Speaker 1: of these big shows don't turn into Kimmel, Colbert and
Speaker 1: uh Fallon. Just don't do that. Be original, don't jump
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon for a new movie coming out. Otherwise
Speaker 1: we're gonna go right back to that bullshit we used
Speaker 1: to have for years. That worked, but we put a
Speaker 1: monkey wrench into that because no one cares about the
Speaker 1: late night shows. Now it's all about how many bits
Speaker 1: on your late night show can make it online the
Speaker 1: next day to get a million, two million, three million hits.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy how different it used to be. Johnny
Speaker 1: Corssen got viewers leto let him and viewers now no.
Speaker 1: Now it's booking go on social media tomorrow. Okay, Joe Rogan,
Speaker 1: it's got broin on. Joe Rogan likes to listen. I
Speaker 1: know he knows a lot about a lot, but some
Speaker 1: things he doesn't know. It just makes me crazy. He
Speaker 1: didn't know what the twenty one Club today was in
Speaker 1: New York. The twenty one Club twenty one in New
Speaker 1: York probably the most famous restaurant in this city. Everybody
Speaker 1: goes to. Who's important, politicians, actors, sports plays. It's been
Speaker 1: around forever, twenty one never heard of it. He lived
Speaker 1: in New York. Blew. My mind doesn't know how to
Speaker 1: pronounce parmigiano, reggiano, parmesan, rega, reganano, oh my god, give it,
Speaker 1: can't pronounce other Italian stuff. I cringe when I hear
Speaker 1: him trying to save these words because he likes to
Speaker 1: say he's half Italian. Well it must be his mother,
Speaker 1: I suppose, But maybe his father was half. But whoever
Speaker 1: was half or or whole to make him half, They
Speaker 1: don't give a shit about their heritage. Because Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: doesn't know who gott's about being Italian. I know he
Speaker 1: doesn't care what I think because he doesn't cared about
Speaker 1: me some people over the years. Bro, you gotta get
Speaker 1: on Rogan, No kidding, you get on Rogan, you just
Speaker 1: blow up, of course. But like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan doesn't know I exist he's not much for gossip.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care. Matter of fact, I hurt some guys,
Speaker 1: like when I was hanging out with Joey Diaz and
Speaker 1: I did Joey's show and he did my show, and
Speaker 1: at one point I said to him, you know, like,
Speaker 1: I want to come back into your show, and how's
Speaker 1: it going with Joe Rogan. I would never ask him
Speaker 1: to get me on that show. This is like six y,
Speaker 1: just five years ago. He goes, Joe's Okay, who's gonna
Speaker 1: move to Texas? He goes, do me a favor, bro,
Speaker 1: don't ask me to get on the show. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you. Whatever I said, I fully understand
Speaker 1: that whole dynamic. I'm not asking you. Oh okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Because I got so many friends a woman to get
Speaker 1: them on Joe's show, I said, Joey, I'll never ask you.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, all right, okay. I heard
Speaker 1: other guys like Kreischer say when they go out with
Speaker 1: Rogan to like a UFC event or whatever, a comedy club,
Speaker 1: people want pictures of like Berg, Kreischer or Tom Segura,
Speaker 1: and they'll go, can Joe pose And they'll look at
Speaker 1: the person and go, he's not going to pose for selfie, really,
Speaker 1: can you just ask him? And he's never gonna come
Speaker 1: here and pose for a picture. He doesn't do that.
Speaker 1: And then some people will give Bert christ or Tom
Speaker 1: Segorl whoever hangs out with Rogan a gift and they'll go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got one for Joe too, Can you give this
Speaker 1: to Joe? And Bert or whatever comic will say, Okay,
Speaker 1: you just gave me two, thank you. I love them both.
Speaker 1: I'll cherish them. But Joe's not going to take this gift. So,
Speaker 1: like people know, don't ask or anything. Don't give him nothing.
Speaker 1: He wants to beat his own world, and whether or
Speaker 1: not you want to respect it or not, that's just him.
Speaker 1: But what got me today was I'm listening to him
Speaker 1: and Brolin, and because I'm into gossip, but I know
Speaker 1: the details and the little little things of so many stories,
Speaker 1: it just gets to me. So he's talking to Brolin
Speaker 1: about Sean Penn. Josh and Sean hang out a lot,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and they get to talking about Sean
Speaker 1: knowing l Choppo and Sean doing the Rolling Stone article
Speaker 1: about El Choppo the cocaine kingpin, and they got so
Speaker 1: many things wrong about Yeah, I guess Sean just approached
Speaker 1: him one day, and you know, and Sean just trumble
Speaker 1: up to Mexico and he just went to Mexico and
Speaker 1: met him. No, none of that went the way they
Speaker 1: think it went. It was. They're so off on that.
Speaker 1: And Brolan knows Sean Penny's a buddy of his. How
Speaker 1: can he get this wrong? It's like Chuck CeDell telling
Speaker 1: the story about him punching me out. Yeah, he did
Speaker 1: punch me out, but every detail from meeting him to
Speaker 1: getting knocked out was wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Basically what happened is Kate del Castillo, the Latina actress
Speaker 2: who's on the Spanish soap opera called Ladiena del Sir,
Speaker 2: The Queen of the South.
Speaker 1: She's been on there for years. She's very popular. She
Speaker 1: wrote El Chopo letter while he was in prison, begging him,
Speaker 1: asking him, with all the money you've gotten to the
Speaker 1: drug trade, can you build some schools, can you build
Speaker 1: a hospital, daycare centers? Do something good? Right? She got
Speaker 1: to him and he was always a fan of hers
Speaker 1: because he used to watch that show. And suddenly he
Speaker 1: gets a letter from Kate del Castillo, and he's like,
Speaker 1: they become pen pals. And he's in prison, you know
Speaker 1: where he was living. He finally escaped when he picked
Speaker 1: up the tub and went down in that tunnel for
Speaker 1: miles and miles on a motorcycle. But he has this
Speaker 1: new pen pal and I'm not sure what they were
Speaker 1: saying to each other in these letters, but he got
Speaker 1: a little steamy. And that's when Kate del Castillo kind
Speaker 1: of let him know I want to make a documentary
Speaker 1: about this and about you, and that it perked up
Speaker 1: his interest a little bit. Okay, hold that thought. So
Speaker 1: he sends word back that he wants to see her,
Speaker 1: and he tells her it'll be the secret spot. My
Speaker 1: people will reach out to your people. Don't tell anybody.
Speaker 1: And this is the way it's gonna happen. Because now
Speaker 1: he's out of jail, he's out of prison, out and
Speaker 1: he wants to meet her. So she's cooking up this
Speaker 1: documentary about her story with him, and then Gillian Barbary
Speaker 1: throws a party one night. Was actually invited to this party,
Speaker 1: but he didn't go because she didn't have a close
Speaker 1: Back then, back when Gillian loved Trump, and we used
Speaker 1: to say great things about him on this radio show
Speaker 1: she co hosted with John Phillips on KABC, and I
Speaker 1: was on every Friday for a year and a half
Speaker 1: doing Trump stuff, and maybe two years. But I was
Speaker 1: on the air with them election night eight years ago
Speaker 1: when I said to the crowd, Trump's gonna win tonight.
Speaker 1: He's gonna beat Hillary. Late at night, people booed me.
Speaker 1: I was right. So suddenly, then Jillian begins to hate
Speaker 1: Trump because she got friendly again with her man hating
Speaker 1: bitchy girlfriend Lisa Guerrero, who got in her ear and
Speaker 1: reminded her you were a celebrity, you have to be liberal.
Speaker 1: And then Jillian just couldn't do that radio show anymore,
Speaker 1: and they ended up getting rid of her, and what
Speaker 1: a shame. Anyhow, So Jillian throws his party. Kate's invited
Speaker 1: because Kate's a really good friend. And Kate was being followed.
Speaker 1: Apparently people in America knew that she was talking to
Speaker 1: out chopo black car following her at night. She would
Speaker 1: stay at Jillian's and she'd cry and she was shaking
Speaker 1: with anxiety. Things I couldn't tell anybody because her life
Speaker 1: depended on AJN. Please don't tell anybody. I won't and
Speaker 1: I did, but they were following Kate around and it
Speaker 1: was really scaring her. Sean Penn goes to this party.
Speaker 1: He hits it off with Kate, but once Kate starts
Speaker 1: talking to him about her idea. This is after they
Speaker 1: they have their fling. Now they're fucking around now, and
Speaker 1: then Kate decides to tell Sean what she's thinking of
Speaker 1: doing and her new friend Al Choppo. This puts Sean
Speaker 1: on alert. He gets on his tippy toes, like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I can make this movie. I could get this done.
Speaker 1: I want to do this. I want to talk to
Speaker 1: al Choppo. I'm a writer. I gotta I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone and tell him I make it. To seel Choppo,
Speaker 1: they give mc green light to write an article. Sean's
Speaker 1: gonna go up there for his own good, fuck Kate
Speaker 1: Castillo's movie. He's doing this for himself. Sure enough, when
Speaker 1: he gets there, he has a cell phone on him
Speaker 1: that he hid, and that's basically a tracking Uh what
Speaker 1: do you call it? A tracking thing that people can
Speaker 1: see they can tell you. Oh, that's where Sean Penn is.
Speaker 1: And he's supposed to meet al Choppo. This weekend, so
Speaker 1: he really fucked up El Choppo's life, and that's how
Speaker 1: al Chopo got locked up again when people came. The
Speaker 1: Mexican police come up there and shot everything up and
Speaker 1: took him away. But Seawan did that because he wanted
Speaker 1: in on the story. Of course, he didn't stick with
Speaker 1: Kate doug Costillo. In fact, when this went down, he
Speaker 1: was with Layla George from Disclaimer, who was arguably the
Speaker 1: sexiest most sexual actress around right now if you saw
Speaker 1: a Disclaimer. So he turns his back on how together
Speaker 1: with Kate del Castillo, and that whole thing falls apart
Speaker 1: because Al Choppa goes back to prison. They blamed Sean Penfrit.
Speaker 1: Then Sean's thought's getting followed. But it's such a big story,
Speaker 1: and to get it so wrong with am I crazy.
Speaker 1: I just don't like when people get stories I think
Speaker 1: is so big and just massacre them. Anyhow, Denzel Washington
Speaker 1: has opened up. I read an article. There's been articles
Speaker 1: everywhere because you know, Gladiator comes out tonight, Gladiator too,
Speaker 1: which I want my son to see, but he hasn't
Speaker 1: seen the first one yet, so he can't see the
Speaker 1: second until he sees the first one that goes to
Speaker 1: all of you too. So Denzel's coming out everywhere talking
Speaker 1: about his past drug and alcohol use. He's admitting that
Speaker 1: he did a lot of damage to his body. Now
Speaker 1: he says he's been sober for ten years. But in
Speaker 1: an Esquire article, he really opened up. He said his
Speaker 1: unhealthy habits began with wine. Now, listen, I got a
Speaker 1: beef with that, because all these fancy people who don't
Speaker 1: want you to think they were dirty enough to get
Speaker 1: involved with cocaine or a little chip of heroin now
Speaker 1: and then, or crystal meth under control, they go to
Speaker 1: wine because that's class here. That makes you think, Oh,
Speaker 1: he just likes a few glasses of wine, too many,
Speaker 1: not a big deal, not something to go to rehab over.
Speaker 1: So let him pretend that he was drinking big expensive
Speaker 1: glasses or bottles of wine, which I'm sure he was,
Speaker 1: But stop stop with the I was just wine. I'll
Speaker 1: never believe that because I know Denzel, and of course
Speaker 1: he says, wine's very tricky. It's very slow. It ain't
Speaker 1: like boom all of a sudden. He said, I never
Speaker 1: got strung out on heroin, never got strung got strung
Speaker 1: out on coke. Never got strung out on hard drugs.
Speaker 1: I shot dope just like they shot dope. But I
Speaker 1: never got strung out. Now I didn't know that that
Speaker 1: he shot dope, he said. I never got strung out
Speaker 1: on liquor. I had this ideal idea of wine tastings,
Speaker 1: and you know, that's what started it. And it was
Speaker 1: a very subtle thing. And I drank the best that
Speaker 1: he talks about drinking two four thousand dollars bottles of
Speaker 1: wine a day because he had the money, or he'd
Speaker 1: just called gil Turner's, which is a famous liquor store
Speaker 1: on Sunset Boulevard. When I was hanging out with Manola Ryders,
Speaker 1: she lived up that street. I forget the name of it.
Speaker 1: All of Sunset you make are right going west, right
Speaker 1: by gil Turner's, then you make your second right. Her
Speaker 1: house is on the left side, like four houses down.
Speaker 1: But she was partying a lot, obviously because we were
Speaker 1: hanging out and we could walk to gil Turner's, but
Speaker 1: we would never walk. She would call them and they'd
Speaker 1: bring it to her. When you when you're hanging out
Speaker 1: with somebody that famous, that much of a big star,
Speaker 1: every single restaurant in Beverly Hills or anywhere. I never
Speaker 1: knew this. You can call up and they'll they'll bring
Speaker 1: you dinner to your house. I didn't know that. Like,
Speaker 1: what do you feel like eating tonight? Oh? You know,
Speaker 1: I'd love to go to mister Chill. Let's go to
Speaker 1: mister Chill. Well, I'll just call them. What do you
Speaker 1: mean you just call It's not fucking Jersey Mike's No,
Speaker 1: just don't. They'll bring it here. And there's like a
Speaker 1: special thing celebrities can call a certain number. They can
Speaker 1: give it the fuck they want. Yeah, nice to be
Speaker 1: a star. So anyhow, he's buying bottles at guild Turner's
Speaker 1: finishing two four thousand dollars bottles a day. His wife's
Speaker 1: getting a little nervous, bah bah bah. But you know,
Speaker 1: he said he never drank while he's preparing for a role.
Speaker 1: Clean up, go back to work. I can work and drink.
Speaker 1: It didn't bother me, you know. So there are people
Speaker 1: like that. I understand that when I was doing a
Speaker 1: little bit of too much of a not a lot
Speaker 1: of a bad thing, but a little bit of a
Speaker 1: bad thing. It always starts small, you know, it's starting
Speaker 1: to work. I'm working till three o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 1: and I'm fine, I'm not falling asleep. I'm filming a
Speaker 1: TV show. But it did get tiring. So I had
Speaker 1: a friend come around with some coke here and there,
Speaker 1: and it was a little forty dollars bag. It's so easy,
Speaker 1: a little bag. It's like the width of two fingernails. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you don't think anything of it. Could do a
Speaker 1: few bumps here and there, you stay awake. It's great.
Speaker 1: The next morning, you don't wake up messed up because
Speaker 1: he just had a little bit. Matter fact. In the beginning,
Speaker 1: you bring home home, you bring stuff home to save
Speaker 1: for the next day. Maybe he didn't last you three
Speaker 1: or four days. Well that doesn't last long, No, Pretty
Speaker 1: soon you need more of the same day, and more
Speaker 1: again the same day. It's disgusting. So you started that way,
Speaker 1: which I did on mysteries and scandals, and you know,
Speaker 1: it got me through the night. But then it becomes
Speaker 1: more of a thing. I want it all the time,
Speaker 1: I want it every day, I want it twice a day. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what Denzel got into, but if
Speaker 1: he was shooting hard drugs at one point, then wow,
Speaker 1: he he went down, I never shot anything that's very,
Speaker 1: very scary, But he said, basically, look, when he's hit
Speaker 1: his sixtieth birthday, he realized reflecting on his past, that
Speaker 1: he did a lot of damage to his body. And
Speaker 1: I know I've been in the same boat. I've sat
Speaker 1: there in hospitals, so laid there and got the same
Speaker 1: news from people who would know about that. But he
Speaker 1: was being honest about his life, and I like that
Speaker 1: about people, especially now that he's seventy. And I like
Speaker 1: the fact that even though he's being honest about this,
Speaker 1: there was never a time that Denzel Washington was sloppy
Speaker 1: or he was never a mean spirited drunk, you know.
Speaker 1: I never heard stories like that about him. He wasn't
Speaker 1: always getting in trouble, you know. And if he was
Speaker 1: drinking a lot or doing drugs and never gotten the
Speaker 1: way of his performances, did you ever see Denzel not great?
Speaker 1: Not for nothing, but he might be like the top
Speaker 1: three of the best actors in the world. I always
Speaker 1: go to see a Denzel Washington movie. There's not many
Speaker 1: hollywooded lead people like him. There just isn't. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you he's exactly how you think he'd be if
Speaker 1: you met him in person. Years ago, probably twenty four
Speaker 1: or twenty three years ago. I had a fun night
Speaker 1: with Denzel back in the day. This is right after
Speaker 1: Training Day came out, so about two thousand and one,
Speaker 1: and he was so great in that role. Tem Com
Speaker 1: don't go shit on me. I mean, I was at Ago,
Speaker 1: my favorite restaurant, one night when everybody was going there
Speaker 1: and I was with a small crew people, and I
Speaker 1: saw Denzel and several other people walk in for dinner,
Speaker 1: and a few minutes later, I went to the restroom
Speaker 1: and he's behind me, okay, and I tell him casually, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know I know the guy who work with you
Speaker 1: on your character for Training Day, the guy I know Bone.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, you know Bone. I said, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know Bone. Bone is well, his name is Clee Sloan,
Speaker 1: Clee Bone Sloan. But Bone was a former gang banger
Speaker 1: who I used to see at Doobi's, the after hours
Speaker 1: house over on Crenshrow Boulevard and a bad part of town.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I know Bone. I said, I
Speaker 1: know that line. To protect the sheep, you got to
Speaker 1: catch the wolf. And it takes a wolf to catch
Speaker 1: a Wolf. He's like, yeah, that's Bone. I said, I
Speaker 1: know Bone gave that line to me. I said, I
Speaker 1: know he did. I know he told me so, I said,
Speaker 1: we talk all the time. Now, Bone, You have to understand.
Speaker 1: Bone was basically the guy you have to hire. Like
Speaker 1: whatever a Hollywood whenever a Hollywood production is going to
Speaker 1: shoot in a part of town that's run by street gangs,
Speaker 1: you need a black dude who knows who runs each
Speaker 1: block and to whom you need permission to park, permission
Speaker 1: to work. It ain't just permission from the city. You
Speaker 1: need permission for certain people on certain blocks. It's no
Speaker 1: different than Little Italy. You know, when we were using guns,
Speaker 1: uh fake guns for his shootout scene for this little
Speaker 1: short movie when I killed me and Willy DeMeo killed
Speaker 1: Chris Maloney and this little short uh he was he
Speaker 1: was called Revolving Doors. You know, we had the guns out.
Speaker 1: The cops came on horseback. We told the cops, you know,
Speaker 1: we got permit. It's sold good, no problem, you got permission, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got we got permission from the city. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but do you have permission? Yeah. The director's going, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got permission, And the cop looks down the street
Speaker 1: at this joint on Mulberry Street that was owned by
Speaker 1: a guy that everybody knew. And you got permission from
Speaker 1: so and so. Oh yeah, yeah he knows, he knows,
Speaker 1: And the cops just wrote off. They didn't care. Once
Speaker 1: we had permission from the other guy down the street,
Speaker 1: the name of Chatchaw. We call him Cha Cha cha
Speaker 1: Chaw knew Uh same thing. In the streets in La
Speaker 1: that have gangs, you gotta get permission. And Boone was
Speaker 1: the guy, a former gangbanger who could go in there
Speaker 1: and talk to people and make sure that the people
Speaker 1: in Hollywood can get in there and work and not,
Speaker 1: you know, have to worry about their livelihood. You think
Speaker 1: about movies like Colors with Sean Penn and Dennis Hopper,
Speaker 1: Boys in the Hood, New Jack City, you know, all
Speaker 1: those movies need a guy like Bone. You can't be
Speaker 1: a twenty six year old white girl, you know, coming
Speaker 1: out of graduating from Carnegie Mellon or some shit. You
Speaker 1: can't just roll up on a neighborhood or a street
Speaker 1: and start planning a shoot. Now, try that and somebody
Speaker 1: will start shooting, but it won't be a camera. So
Speaker 1: Bone's real name, like I said, is Clee Sloan, And
Speaker 1: after being part of the Athens Park Bloods, he left
Speaker 1: the gangs. He left it and he became someone who's
Speaker 1: tried to broke or peace between the Bloods and the Crips.
Speaker 1: He worked on training Day, like I said, he was
Speaker 1: a gang advisor, helped persuade actual gang members to lend
Speaker 1: their credibility to the project on the screen. And you know,
Speaker 1: he took Denzel aside, and Denzel would ask him questions,
Speaker 1: and eventually he got him paid as an advisor, as
Speaker 1: a technical advisor on how Denzel should speak and say
Speaker 1: certain things on training Day. So before Training Day came out,
Speaker 1: I knew Bone had worked with Denzel to get him
Speaker 1: ready and he was. Actually he got introduced to movies
Speaker 1: by Jim Brown, the great football player. Jim Brown got
Speaker 1: him a Giggs an assistant when he got out of prison.
Speaker 1: The first time he met Antoine Fuqua, who shot Training Day.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, he's a friend. He meets Denzel
Speaker 1: and he's got this whole new career. Now, Bone Sloan
Speaker 1: is a cinematographer making documentaries, really cool stuff. But they
Speaker 1: hit it off right away. And when I told him,
Speaker 1: I used to hang with Bone at Doobie's his eyes
Speaker 1: lit up. He's like, Denzel's like, you know, Doobie, how
Speaker 1: doobey Ben? I haven't seen Deubie in a long time.
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm going in now for a pickup.
Speaker 1: You need anything. I just figured i'd say that because
Speaker 1: I could tell he was down you need anything, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go for a pickup, meaning I'm gonna get some drugs.
Speaker 1: And he gave me this look. He gave me that
Speaker 1: Denzel latitude. You're saying you're going to doobies. Now, you're
Speaker 1: going to the house and you're coming back. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go pick something up, make the night
Speaker 1: more fun, turn up the volume. You're gonna be here
Speaker 1: in thirty five forty minutes. He's like, yeah, we haven't
Speaker 1: even eaten yet. I said, good, I'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Sure enough. I go downtown, I pick up the shit,
Speaker 1: drive back, walk in the door, and I'll go. I
Speaker 1: see Denzel's looking right at the door, which makes him
Speaker 1: to be the kind of person who knows his cocaine,
Speaker 1: because if you know someone's going to get it, your
Speaker 1: eyes are on that door. And as soon as I
Speaker 1: walk in the door. I head right for the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Sure enough, he gets up and starts walking over. I'm
Speaker 1: in there twenty seconds. Knock on the door. It's a
Speaker 1: big bathroom. I let him in, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: in the bathroom and he's laughing. Were like two kids.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, so you went to Dubie's. I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I went, I got it right here and this is
Speaker 1: from Dubie. I said, yeah, go ahead, how fun. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I'll just do a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get myself in trouble. I don't need a lot
Speaker 1: that kind of talk. I'm like, you can have it, man,
Speaker 1: I got another one from me. Take this one. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: And he's like all embarrassed, like he just looked very
Speaker 1: embarrassed that I bought him one. I got him one.
Speaker 1: But he's like, for real. I said, yeah, is that okay?
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, yeah, it's all right. Sorry, iron try it.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, here and he patted me on the shoulder.
Speaker 1: I mean we did. We did a couple of bumps
Speaker 1: and he pats me on the shoulder. He's going to leave.
Speaker 1: He's like, my man, just everything you expect Denzel Washington
Speaker 1: to say, and but I did have to ask him
Speaker 1: something before he left, something I'd always heard and I
Speaker 1: was hoping it's true, because she was she was beautiful,
Speaker 1: and there was always this story, this roomor that Denzel
Speaker 1: had for years, even though he's married, had maintained this
Speaker 1: relationship with this really beautiful actress named Sinai Latham. You've
Speaker 1: seen her. She's been in his movies as well. Matter
Speaker 1: of fact, he gets parts for here and there because
Speaker 1: he doesn't mind working with her. So I go, look,
Speaker 1: I just got to ask him. You don't have to
Speaker 1: answer me, but just let me know in some way.
Speaker 1: He's like, what's that? I said, Sinai Latham and he
Speaker 1: just smiled that. Denzel smiled and he said, well, she's
Speaker 1: a wonderful actress and the work she puts in all
Speaker 1: this kind of bullshit. So I cut him off. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I start reaching for the shit in his pocket, but
Speaker 1: give me this stuff back. I'm not I can't deal
Speaker 1: with people like you. Give me that. So I started
Speaker 1: pulling at his pants. I said, you're gonna go a
Speaker 1: PC on me now, and he's laughing, Oh, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Because look, it's what you think it is. It's what
Speaker 1: you think, all right, what do you think? I said?
Speaker 1: You know what I think? He goes, it's what you think?
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let me get back to my table.
Speaker 1: Let me get out of here. Man, you're dangerous. Was
Speaker 1: not Denzel's voice, but I just remember, I can't really
Speaker 1: do Denzel, But yeah, it was in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: And I've been around some very famous guys that the
Speaker 1: Neros and the Pacinos and what have you, and they
Speaker 1: are very quiet and introspective when you're around them. But
Speaker 1: Denzel is lively. He's a live wire. He doesn't just
Speaker 1: sit there and do nothing. He talks, he's he He
Speaker 1: does the Denzel things you see on screen, which I love.
Speaker 1: And you know, I never saw him again. I've never
Speaker 1: really talked about it too many times, but I will
Speaker 1: put it in my book now that he's talked about
Speaker 1: shooting dope Christ's sake, So I'm glad I heard that
Speaker 1: story before I finished my book. Sometimes the longer I wait,
Speaker 1: the more these people cop to certain things, and suddenly
Speaker 1: my chapters don't seem that scary. The reason why that
Speaker 1: book has taken me a while is because, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to write a book and insinuate certain things.
Speaker 1: I want to write a book and say what happened,
Speaker 1: just like I'm honest like this on the show. Once
Speaker 1: I'm able to be this honest like I've been for
Speaker 1: seven years and not pull back any punches, to take
Speaker 1: all these stories and put them in a book and
Speaker 1: have to like, you know, let me couch that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to couch shit, you know. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure out space and time. And now, believe it
Speaker 1: or not, it made sound funny, but with Trump winning,
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be things that are more uh
Speaker 1: more easy to get into manuscripts than things used to be.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, when I wanted to write
Speaker 1: a book about Trump, when he announced that he was
Speaker 1: gonna run, and I had this epiphany for the podcast,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I got to write a book about
Speaker 1: my relationship with him and how I did a one
Speaker 1: to eighty and I got so many stories. My mind
Speaker 1: was racing. I called my agent, and William Morris Melberger
Speaker 1: been around for decades. He was my first agent. He's
Speaker 1: great handle everybody. I give him the idea and he's
Speaker 1: always complimentary. Well, ah, you can run anything anything. You right,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting, he said. But let me your question.
Speaker 1: He said, I don't know why you like him. I said,
Speaker 1: I just do. He's a liberal, I said. He said,
Speaker 1: out look, agent, listen, old Jewish guy from New York,
Speaker 1: break guyd listen. I'm just telling you truth. Do you
Speaker 1: want to keep writing books? I said, well, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: then I wouldn't write this book. I said, why, because
Speaker 1: people are not going to want to publish a book
Speaker 1: where you say you're friends with Donald Trump. That's not
Speaker 1: where this community's at. I said, what do you mean
Speaker 1: community books in generally? Because he's not a favorable person
Speaker 1: to write about, you're not going to have any easy
Speaker 1: path to write a story about him, let alone a
Speaker 1: book in a positive way. So if you want to
Speaker 1: still be an author and write books down the road,
Speaker 1: I suggest you sit this one out. I was told
Speaker 1: that back in twenty fucking fifteen. So you know the
Speaker 1: world was changing in a lot of ways, especially with
Speaker 1: publishing and television and what things you can say, which
Speaker 1: you can write, what you can't write. I don't like
Speaker 1: being in that world. And now things is loosening up,
Speaker 1: and the pendulum is swinging a better way right now,
Speaker 1: and this opens the door for more things and more
Speaker 1: risks to be taken without possibly being canceled or losing
Speaker 1: your livelihood. Because for seven years or more, I've walked
Speaker 1: a tightrope and I've made it, never fell into the
Speaker 1: net below. That's because there is no net. Benzes don't
Speaker 1: use nets. We walk in the wire without the net.
Speaker 1: That's what I'll do this weekend on politics a bitch,
Speaker 1: and that's what i'll do Monday for you moving forward again.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck is wrong with overcast,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to figure it out. But just no,
Speaker 1: it's nothing on our end, but it pisses me off
Speaker 1: just the same. I'm aj Benz and I was your
Speaker 1: daily Gonna Filtered podcast for eleven, twenty two, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Have a great weekend and I'll talk to you tomorrow