Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another episode of Star Wars.
Speaker 2: Alize your home on the Geek Ultimate Allons podcast net
Speaker 2: work for any and all things Star Wars. I'm your host,
Speaker 2: like always Katie, and with me as for the usual
Speaker 2: is Clay Clay. We've already kind of talked about this,
Speaker 2: but let's tell the artists. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. There is some developments happening in
Speaker 1: my personal life and I will be able to share
Speaker 1: that when everything is more concrete. But I just realized this.
Speaker 1: We are getting to a more normalized weather system, which
Speaker 1: is causing me to actually use the AC. We haven't
Speaker 1: used the see in this room for quite some time.
Speaker 1: Can you hear that?
Speaker 2: I don't hear it?
Speaker 1: Sweet? Even better? Okay, So yeah, yeah, some some other
Speaker 1: stuff is happening outside of Volume Comics. Everybody who has
Speaker 1: followed Volume Commics, I want to thank you guys. That
Speaker 1: is still in development and we hope to get that
Speaker 1: up and running very very soon. But you know, we'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. But there's other personal stuff that
Speaker 1: I will be able to share soon ish maybe. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we are going to be talking about episodes five and
Speaker 1: six of mal There's not really a whole lot of news.
Speaker 2: There's one piece of news that we'll talk about. But
Speaker 2: first things first, I just want to say, guys, today's
Speaker 2: April twenty second, when we are recording this. We are
Speaker 2: one month away from our live review of The Mandamorian
Speaker 2: and the Grog Who on the Geekers YouTube channel at
Speaker 2: eight pm Eastern statary time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are so mark that on calendars.
Speaker 2: This is the first time in.
Speaker 3: Five five years because June six years five years that
Speaker 3: the Star Wars Alliance crew gets the Friday night flots
Speaker 3: on the geek First YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: That is crazy.
Speaker 2: You're gonna do this. I want to celebrate. I want
Speaker 2: people in the chat like we're gonna have the blast.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be I'm excited YouTube. Yes, now I
Speaker 1: will say that I I texted you, did you buy
Speaker 1: your ticket?
Speaker 2: I have not bought my ticket because we have to
Speaker 2: schedule a babysitter.
Speaker 1: I have not bought my ticket either. And the way
Speaker 1: that me and Abby have been doing things, Abby has
Speaker 1: not been soon super crazy about watching anything Superhero and
Speaker 1: yeah ip related together, So I've been watching that on
Speaker 1: my own and then when it comes to Disney. Plus
Speaker 1: we all watch it as a family. But we have
Speaker 1: been watching family movies at the theater. We took Amberlin
Speaker 1: to go see, of course, Utopia too when it came out. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then just here recently we watched Super Mario Galaxy, right,
Speaker 1: was it super Mario Galazy? Yeah, super Mario Galaxy, uh,
Speaker 1: with Amberlin as well. Uh. And we've been enjoying that
Speaker 1: time together. So I don't know. I want to watch
Speaker 1: Mandoin Grogu by myself to see if it is appropriate
Speaker 1: to bring Amberlin in because she she likes Grogu. Whenever
Speaker 1: she sees Grogu, she's like, oh, Grogu. I'm like okay,
Speaker 1: Like I can kind of tell her to close her
Speaker 1: eyes or leave the room whenever I'm watching Mando on
Speaker 1: our TV at home. Can't necessarily do that with a
Speaker 1: big screen at a theater. So I'm gonna watch it first,
Speaker 1: see how it is, and then we'll see if we
Speaker 1: can all go see it together.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Mara is too young because obviously, as
Speaker 2: I've told y'all, she loves Grogu. Right now, she wears
Speaker 2: Grogu shirts like three times a week to day care.
Speaker 2: So I know she would love it, at least the
Speaker 2: Grogu parts, but I don't think she's old enough to
Speaker 2: go to a theater just yet, so we will probably
Speaker 2: show her Mandoin Grogu when it comes to Disney. Plus,
Speaker 2: I think our plan right now. I told Matt, I
Speaker 2: was like, we have to figure out Thursday night because
Speaker 2: we're going to see it Thursday night, and then I
Speaker 2: took Friday off so I can go see it and
Speaker 2: do the review watch on my own on like during
Speaker 2: the day on Friday, so then I can be prepared
Speaker 2: with notes and stuff. So that is my plan for
Speaker 2: the watch along. But the piece of news that we
Speaker 2: have to talk about Clay on May fourth. It was
Speaker 2: just announced on May fourth that Imax and Lucasfilm will
Speaker 2: be doing special look events at select Imax theaters around
Speaker 2: the world on Star Wars Day, featuring exclusive, never before
Speaker 2: seen footage and special fan giveaways. These screenings will happen
Speaker 2: at seven pm Local Standard time. Uh, it looks like
Speaker 2: they are available on fandango dot com. It does look
Speaker 2: like it's free. At least I thought this was a
Speaker 2: pay event.
Speaker 1: But this was news to me. Where where where are
Speaker 1: you reading this? What is what? Is this? What is this?
Speaker 2: This is on Star Wars. I'm pulling this up off
Speaker 2: of Star Wars dot com. Okay, or I pulled this
Speaker 2: up off of Star Wars news Net. But uh, star
Speaker 2: Wars has it as well, like I saw it on
Speaker 2: Star Wars' Instagram account at line.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, So here we go. Uh, here
Speaker 1: we go. It's a twenty five minute iMX fan preview.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So it says here get an exclusive
Speaker 1: special look at the upcoming film Men Luring Grogu weeks
Speaker 1: before the big release. So I want to know how
Speaker 1: do you feel about these? Because we have seen big
Speaker 1: events like New York Comic Con, San Diego Comic Con,
Speaker 1: Star Wars Celebration, shared trailers, and then from time to
Speaker 1: time we will get the like oh, the first TV
Speaker 1: spot or the first look, you know those types of things.
Speaker 1: This is twenty five minutes of the movie.
Speaker 2: Correct, and it does look like it's free. I had
Speaker 2: very big thoughts because originally I thought this was a
Speaker 2: ticketed event, and I was like, you put this special look,
Speaker 2: like this is the special look. I'm betting that goes
Speaker 2: onto Disney Plus right now for all of the movies
Speaker 2: that are going into theaters. Yeah, Like, if you look,
Speaker 2: there's a special look for Devilaware's product too. Right now.
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no way you're gonna charge me
Speaker 2: twenty bucks to go see twenty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Well, and like Peter, the last time I remember doing
Speaker 1: one of these was bvs. Batman versus Superman. Abby completely
Speaker 1: made fun of me for doing it because I dragged
Speaker 1: her along with me. We went to the Imax Theater
Speaker 1: in San Antonio. We stood in line and we literally
Speaker 1: just watched the extended trailer that was Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: some posters, we got some little knickknacks, but that was it,
Speaker 1: and of course the special message from Zack Snyder. I
Speaker 1: haven't done it since that was literally ten years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like I don't remember the last time,
Speaker 2: but I think it makes sense. Knowing that people aren't charging,
Speaker 2: like Lucaslm's not charging for it, it makes more sense
Speaker 2: to do this and like have it be like a
Speaker 2: little May fourth celebration kind of thing. I just put
Speaker 2: in my information on the fan Dango site. It doesn't
Speaker 2: look like this is available in South Carolina, So fuck you,
Speaker 2: Lucas Film. I'm just kidding, but like.
Speaker 1: I guess that would make it fake to actually look
Speaker 1: to see if this is here in my town as well.
Speaker 1: But like we have seen, and I guess this is
Speaker 1: something that we haven't really talked about because we were
Speaker 1: waiting to talk about predictions and everything else. Yep, Mandoin
Speaker 1: Grogu does not look like it's looking the best sales wise,
Speaker 1: and I think this is their attempt to hype people
Speaker 1: up well.
Speaker 2: And other thing that I think is not in the
Speaker 2: predictions currently is the fact that this is releasing Memorial
Speaker 2: Day weekend, so it's not taking the predictions that I've seen,
Speaker 2: are not taking the Monday sales into account or that
Speaker 2: it's a holiday weekend. It just says basic, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: sales structures. So it'll be interesting to see how that changed.
Speaker 2: But seventy million dollars. Seventy million dollars is still not
Speaker 2: that bad.
Speaker 1: It's not bad I for IPS. Right now, I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see how the Thursday sales will go, because of
Speaker 1: course everybody knows Thursday is majority going to be the
Speaker 1: hardcore fans, the people who are like, hey, I cannot wait,
Speaker 1: I need to watch this now, so I don't get
Speaker 1: spoiled about it in the future. That's what Thursday is
Speaker 1: kind of there for if Thursday has a good good
Speaker 1: enough amount, I would say, and I say good enough
Speaker 1: as in like standards for people who follow these types
Speaker 1: of box office numbers. Yeah, I think the Monday can
Speaker 1: hold them over. Now, when does Devil Waters product release?
Speaker 2: May second?
Speaker 1: Oo?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it opens not this weekend, but next weekend.
Speaker 1: It's next weekend, and then man doin Groid Because here's
Speaker 1: the thing I think, I genuinely think, and this is crazy.
Speaker 1: I just recently in my life watched Devil risprouda. Within
Speaker 1: the last like year and a half, I think I
Speaker 1: have watched it.
Speaker 2: I watched it this past weekend for the first time.
Speaker 1: I think that has enough of a cult following to
Speaker 1: literally last the entire month of May.
Speaker 2: I don't know, because I feel like Disney has been
Speaker 2: pulling stuff within a month, so I feel like it's
Speaker 2: gonna be frontloaded a little bit. Also true, I did
Speaker 2: pull up, so I pulled up Fantastic four opening weekend,
Speaker 2: Superman's opening weekend, and Thunderbolts opening weekend. I would consider
Speaker 2: Mando and Grogu more along the lines of Thunderbolts. Yeah,
Speaker 2: in this case, Fantastic Four did an estimated one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighteen million in the US. Okay, Superman did one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two million opening million in the US. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty two million. Thunderbolts did seventy six million.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, me, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think with it being an offshoot and not a
Speaker 2: main team, I feel like seventy million prediction wise reasonable
Speaker 2: at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, and we will obviously see, Like so, if they're
Speaker 2: doing the Special Look event in Imax on May fourth,
Speaker 2: I would imagine the Special Look is going to come
Speaker 2: to Disney Plus, so we might get some numbers on
Speaker 2: that too, and we might see things increase. From my
Speaker 2: see things decrease, I don't know. I feel like Starfighter
Speaker 2: is the true test of the Star Wars box office,
Speaker 2: and not necessarily this.
Speaker 1: So my question, my question to you would be everybody's
Speaker 1: saying seventy million is kind of like, oh, that's very low,
Speaker 1: that's not looking great. Of course, it is technically the
Speaker 1: lowest of every Star Wars film that has hit theaters.
Speaker 1: We don't know what Disney or lucasfilm would count as
Speaker 1: a rock star success for Mando and Grogu, What do
Speaker 1: you think a rock Star success would be for that weekend? You?
Speaker 2: I feel like rock stars success, you're hitting like a
Speaker 2: hundred million is. I feel like I don't. I have
Speaker 2: never seen that. I have never thought that this movie
Speaker 2: is gonna make big box office numbers. I feel like
Speaker 2: that's left to something that doesn't have to have homework,
Speaker 2: because we still don't know how Mandoin Grogu is going
Speaker 2: to handle the transition from streaming to theatrical and I
Speaker 2: think that's people's hesitation. So that's why I feel like
Speaker 2: Starfighter is more of a test of the Star Wars
Speaker 2: box office than Mandoin grogo is. I just Starfighter doesn't
Speaker 2: have homework that you have to go watch. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: just as another perspective for everybody, Project how Mary earned
Speaker 2: eighty point six million dollars in the US opening weekend,
Speaker 2: and what Super Mario Galaxy movie opening weekend? What did
Speaker 2: that make? Super Mario earned one hundred thirty one million
Speaker 2: at the box office. It's opening weekend. So I feel
Speaker 2: like in Project hell Mary was like said like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like a box office success here. And obviously
Speaker 2: Project hell Mary's budget very different compared to Mandoin Grogu.
Speaker 2: But you also have more merchandising rates for Mandoin Grogu
Speaker 2: than Project Till Mary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna choose to continue to think positively,
Speaker 2: but again, I'm not concerned about this box office. I
Speaker 2: truly do believe Mandoin Grogu's gonna make its budget back,
Speaker 2: which should therefore be considered a success. Starfighter is the
Speaker 2: indicator to me, can Star Wars go back to theaters,
Speaker 2: because that is an original story?
Speaker 1: I think so too. I do think that Disney and
Speaker 1: Lucasfilm think the same. I think that Manduin Grogu is
Speaker 1: literally just a test for what a Disney plus ip
Speaker 1: can do in theaters. Yeah, because we have not yet
Speaker 1: seen that happen for Disney yet. I also asked everybody
Speaker 1: at the GUA. I said, what do you guys think
Speaker 1: the ideal success numbers for Manduin Grogu would be opening weekend?
Speaker 1: Travis did say Snell He said, depends on the budget, obviously,
Speaker 1: but without knowing one hundred plus, So he's on the
Speaker 1: same page as you. Anything under it is, Yeah, anything
Speaker 1: under is pretty underwhelming for the first Star Wars movie
Speaker 1: in seven plus years.
Speaker 2: The production budget, according to screen rant and I believe
Speaker 2: we said this before, but just since Nell had said
Speaker 2: that overall production budget was one hundred and sixty six
Speaker 2: point four million dollars with a tax credit of twenty
Speaker 2: one point seventy five million dollars. It is the lowest
Speaker 2: production budget that a Star Wars movie has had since
Speaker 2: the prequel trilogy.
Speaker 1: So you said that budget was around what one.
Speaker 2: Hundred and sixty six point four billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Billion with a B million, Okay, I was like what,
Speaker 1: I was like that that movie is going under real quick.
Speaker 1: If it's billion.
Speaker 2: Forst Awakens two hundred and forty five million, Rogue one,
Speaker 2: A Star Wars Story two hundred million, Last Jedi three
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen million, Solo two hundred and seventy
Speaker 2: five million, Rise of Skywalker to seventy five million, and
Speaker 2: then as we've said, Vando and Grogu one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty six point four million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now, how about this, since we've kind of kind of
Speaker 1: we kind of dove into these numbers and started talking
Speaker 1: predictions or everything, and we'll get into the nitty gritty
Speaker 1: of our predictions closer to the release. Do you think
Speaker 1: it'll explode overseas or be steady. What do you think.
Speaker 2: It could? I could see it going either way because
Speaker 2: I feel like Middle East and China you could have
Speaker 2: issues because Pedro Pascal is the star and he is
Speaker 2: pro LGBTQ personas, so you could see Middle East and
Speaker 2: China potentially going it. Nope, we're not showing him kind
Speaker 2: of thing, but obviously very popular everywhere else, I feel
Speaker 2: like right now, so you could see a spike out
Speaker 2: of South America for instance.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm terrible with box office predictions.
Speaker 4: What we've seen so so, of course overseas, specifically in
Speaker 4: China and in Japan, we've seen more movies with.
Speaker 1: The mascot esque characters that like groguh, they seem to
Speaker 1: pop off pretty well, so I'm wondering if that will
Speaker 1: be the case here. But we haven't really seen any
Speaker 1: other predictions worldwide, and I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: release schedule is for Mando it comes to overseas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know either. I can't find a direct
Speaker 2: source for this, but it looks like Fantastic Four made
Speaker 2: two hundred and eighteen million opening weekend, so at extra
Speaker 2: one hundred million for Fantastic Four would again probably not
Speaker 2: like the best comparison. But if we look at Thunderbolts,
Speaker 2: go back to Thunderbolts opening weekend international, the opening international
Speaker 2: box office for Thunderbolts is eighty six point one million. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So total opening box office weekend of one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty two point one million.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, If that's the case, I think that Mando
Speaker 1: and Grogu can break a hundred.
Speaker 2: I think yeah, it's definitely gonna break one hundred worldwide.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it will break one hundred in
Speaker 2: the US, I don't think it will. Yeah, internationally, it
Speaker 2: would definitely break a hundred million.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll have to wait and see and
Speaker 1: again we will probably get a little bit more concrete
Speaker 1: numbers once we get closer to the actual release and
Speaker 1: when we actually talk about our predictions. But I think
Speaker 1: with that, is there any other news.
Speaker 2: I saw on Star Wars news Net?
Speaker 1: I believe that is everything that I sent you recently.
Speaker 1: Also my request on net Galley, it's still pending. I
Speaker 1: have no idea how or when they are going to
Speaker 1: update that.
Speaker 2: I was planning on emailing, but I still haven't even
Speaker 2: called my UH insurance to figure out why they won't
Speaker 2: give you my my grain events. So I'm just like
Speaker 2: procrastinating everything.
Speaker 1: But also priorities, you know, books or medication.
Speaker 2: Note of books, guys, Dungeon Crawler Carl is a big
Speaker 2: hype right now on the TikTok in the instagram. I'm
Speaker 2: here to tell you that you should believe the hype because.
Speaker 1: Did you get into it?
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I have been avoiding it because, guys, whenever it comes
Speaker 1: to books, I am such a hipster. I'll be completely honest.
Speaker 1: Every single hype book I stay away from because I
Speaker 1: just I'm scared of being disappointed. I think more.
Speaker 2: No. Okay, and I know you have dropped Audible, but
Speaker 2: the audiobook is only available.
Speaker 5: On Audible right now. Really, yes, it is an Audible exclusive.
Speaker 5: It is also on Kindle unlimited. So the e book
Speaker 5: is available on Kindle unlimited, y'all. I could not get
Speaker 5: into this book. About six months ago.
Speaker 2: I finally was like, you know, people keep telling me,
Speaker 2: like I had somebody message me and go, Katie, have
Speaker 2: you read Dungeon Carlo Carl. You absolutely need to read
Speaker 2: Dungeon color car and you need to listen to the narration.
Speaker 2: It was magical It was exactly what I needed for
Speaker 2: like a very a very dumb book where I don't
Speaker 2: have to think about things too much, and I think
Speaker 2: there's very easy for me to follow. There's seven books.
Speaker 1: Out seven Yeah, I was just about to say, I
Speaker 1: think there's eight books.
Speaker 2: The eighth book comes out in three weeks.
Speaker 1: So man, he is just pumping those books out. Seventh
Speaker 1: when it came out last year.
Speaker 2: I think he's doing them about every six months. It
Speaker 2: looks like, yeah, which if that's the only thing you're writing,
Speaker 2: which it looks like it is, I feel like that's realistic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But like Rebecca Yarros, for instance, she puts out about
Speaker 2: two books a year. Yeah, So I feel like that's
Speaker 2: realistic numbers, but very fun book. The Narrator is absolutely hysterical.
Speaker 2: I love it. So if you have not gotten into it,
Speaker 2: I'd just like to tell you that it was great.
Speaker 1: And there's multiple different things that you can get into, guys.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Dungeon Carl Dungeon Crawler Carl, there
Speaker 1: is the uh, the book, there is the graphic novel,
Speaker 1: and there is also the web tunes that is also online.
Speaker 2: Because I thought this was right up my brother's Alley
Speaker 2: because it's like very video gamey and stuff, and so
Speaker 2: I sent him a text. I was like, I need
Speaker 2: you to know you don't have to read this, but
Speaker 2: I got the first audio book for Dungeon Carler Carl
Speaker 2: if you want to listen to it. Because my mom
Speaker 2: and I are like on the Amazon family. We both
Speaker 2: pay for Amazon, but we link so we can get
Speaker 2: each other's libraries. Yeah, I was like, I think this
Speaker 2: would totally be your jam and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been reading the web tunes for the past six month.
Speaker 2: It's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So the uh oh shoot, what was I gonna say?
Speaker 1: The the genre is technically, uh light RPG.
Speaker 2: So is that how you pronounced that because I've always
Speaker 2: pronounced that lit RPG.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's it's light RPG.
Speaker 2: Okay, what what? Why is it light RPG?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Okay, I like, it's same thing
Speaker 1: as like the the manga novels. They're called light novels,
Speaker 1: and it's it's literally l E T light novels. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's an abbreviation for something, but it's
Speaker 1: it's l a T light novels.
Speaker 2: Interesting, but we are gonna be.
Speaker 1: Talking about episodes five and six of mal shadow Lord,
Speaker 1: episode five being Inquisition and six being Night of the Hunted.
Speaker 1: Of course we can talk about these two episodes together, Katie.
Speaker 2: So I think we just need to go ahead and
Speaker 2: knock this part out.
Speaker 1: I feel like the.
Speaker 2: Animation and the music still on part very good, very phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep repeating that, but I feel
Speaker 2: like we need to acknowledge it every week because the rest.
Speaker 1: Of it, well, So I needed to ask you specifically.
Speaker 1: I am not usually one, and I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: I'm not woken off or whatever, but when it comes
Speaker 1: to how animation has been treated, especially overseas with anime,
Speaker 1: there is always a warning of hey, this has you know,
Speaker 1: shining lights, this could cause epilepsy, like episodes and all
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Okay, with your migraines. Episode six had
Speaker 1: a very intense lightsaber fights on the tray. How did
Speaker 1: you feel about that.
Speaker 2: I did not have any issues with that, which is
Speaker 2: like I really haven't. I really don't typically deal with it.
Speaker 2: When it comes to animation, it's always typically live action
Speaker 2: that does it. I think it's just a different way
Speaker 2: the light works. Okay, Sorry, I hear my toddler crying
Speaker 2: the background. But I think it's just a different light
Speaker 2: spectrum because certain like I can't think of the light bulb,
Speaker 2: but like the new light bulbs versus incandescence, those can
Speaker 2: sometimes give me migraines, especially the way they sound and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I feel like with the animation, it's a different
Speaker 2: light spectrum that they're using. So even I know it's flashing,
Speaker 2: it's not causing the same effect. Because I've definitely had
Speaker 2: that where I had to go like, I'm covered my eyes,
Speaker 2: tell me when it's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't have that. I know that you've You've
Speaker 1: talked to me about that before, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: just see if that was a problem for you. I recently,
Speaker 1: especially when an anime, it kind of annoys me. So
Speaker 1: like the way that anime studios get away with it. Nowadays,
Speaker 1: they still have like the bright flashing lights, but they
Speaker 1: literally put a dimming effect on the entire screen, on
Speaker 1: the entire ratio of the frame. They just dim everything
Speaker 1: and it kind of looks like, uh, like you put
Speaker 1: the brightness on your phone. It looks like they turn
Speaker 1: it down for like literally zero point five seconds and
Speaker 1: then it goes back up whenever the flashing lights are gone.
Speaker 1: That kind of gets annoying. Spec actually if it happens
Speaker 1: periodically in one episode this there's nothing like that here.
Speaker 1: But when the Inquisitor was fighting Devin spoilers of course,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it anyway, and Maul entered the scene,
Speaker 1: there was just also guys again animation, the paint stroke
Speaker 1: effect gorgeous in the lightsaber fighting. Oh, I love it.
Speaker 1: But it did give me a thought of, like, I
Speaker 1: wonder if anybody's actually having a problem with the amount
Speaker 1: of craziness, that craziness that's going on currently with these
Speaker 1: fight scenes. But if not, that's totally cool. That's totally cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know everybody's different with what affects them,
Speaker 2: so it would be interesting to know because like I
Speaker 2: told you before, like it literally the flashing that can
Speaker 2: get me, and it's typically very white and black like
Speaker 2: that aspect like the Captain America, it was bullshit, who
Speaker 2: the fuck does that? I'm sorry, it really pissed me off.
Speaker 2: So there, I didn't have any problems with it. I
Speaker 2: was able to watch the scene in its entirety.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, cool, cool, Now I have two prediction questions
Speaker 1: for you because these, uh, there was two instances where
Speaker 1: it's subtle. It's subtle enough that you don't really question
Speaker 1: too much about it, but it's just like, you know,
Speaker 1: something happens, you're like, okay, let's move on, Chief Claice
Speaker 1: and Master Doo Docy. Yes, Chief Claie, it's removed from
Speaker 1: her position indefinitely. Yeah, do we see her again? You
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: I think she got sent to one of the first
Speaker 2: Empire in prison prison camps.
Speaker 1: I think so as well. And then two after the
Speaker 1: chase scene with Devin and Dio Docy, Theodoci jumps down
Speaker 1: and he grunts any kind of like you know, staggers
Speaker 1: and says, Master, are you okay? And he says no,
Speaker 1: but I'm not dead yet. Does he die? I think
Speaker 1: he's dead by the end of the of the season.
Speaker 1: You think so?
Speaker 2: I think so, And I no longer think that. Not
Speaker 2: that I thought this, I just thought it would be cool.
Speaker 2: But I think we're gonna end up with a season
Speaker 2: two directly happens after this. It's not going to be
Speaker 2: any sort of major time jump. It's gonna be mall
Speaker 2: with Devin and her kind of like dealing with the
Speaker 2: Oh my master died. Oh but the empire is bad.
Speaker 2: Oh but Mall is also bad. But the enemy of
Speaker 2: my enemy is my friend.
Speaker 1: Kind of Mall is all I have, you know what
Speaker 1: type of thing. I was kind of thinking the same thing,
Speaker 1: especially with what developed at the end of this episode.
Speaker 1: I questioned at the beginning of episode five, there is
Speaker 1: a scene where Mall, I believe is it episode five
Speaker 1: or is it episode.
Speaker 2: Episode six has him doing the lightsaber training on his own.
Speaker 1: Yes, episode six, I asked threads, Hey, has anybody figured
Speaker 1: out what battle was Mal mimicking, because there's you know,
Speaker 1: I just feel like Star Wars would definitely do that,
Speaker 1: Like is he sensing some fight in the future. I
Speaker 1: even watched the last fight again to see if he
Speaker 1: mimics some of the same moves he does maybe once
Speaker 1: or twice. I was like, Oh, that's so cool. If
Speaker 1: he was able to know, like, hey, this fight is
Speaker 1: gonna happen, I know exactly how to defend myself because
Speaker 1: of the whole conversation we had last week about this
Speaker 1: whole like mal profit thing. Yeah, well, somebody picked up
Speaker 1: on a very like it's literally a blink and you
Speaker 1: miss it. Frame in that sequence of him doing the training,
Speaker 1: he holds a very famous pose that was held by
Speaker 1: Star Killer in the video game, so it is yes,
Speaker 1: So it's literally just like how the showrunners had said, Hey,
Speaker 1: there is some light homages to the forced Unleash. This
Speaker 1: was one of them. So they did that entire sequence.
Speaker 2: Well, go ahead, My guess was gonna be the Palpatine
Speaker 2: fight that he has with Savage.
Speaker 1: And Mal Oh. Yeah, it was him kind of like.
Speaker 2: Redoing that because we know that fight beat him up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, that would make sense. So he feels like
Speaker 1: he needs to practice that fight over and over to
Speaker 1: see what he did wrong. Oh. I like that kind
Speaker 1: of messes with his mentality also, But I also like
Speaker 1: the idea of they made that entire sequence just to
Speaker 1: hide one frame as an homage to for Sun Leaves.
Speaker 1: I like that as well. So I think that is
Speaker 1: very very cool. Also, when we're talking about characters and
Speaker 1: how they are changing, if we will see them again
Speaker 1: and all of that, a new development. Of course, the
Speaker 1: Empire has come in. They have taken over, and we
Speaker 1: now see this, Uh what's his name is it, lieutenant?
Speaker 1: What is his name? I think it is Blake actually,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's a lieutenant or not.
Speaker 1: Is he a lieutenant?
Speaker 2: It is he is a lieutenant.
Speaker 1: Okay, it is Lieutenant Blake. Who are you? Yeah, Lieutenant Blake.
Speaker 1: Lieutenant Blake has taken over the department and two Boots
Speaker 1: is you know, just doing what a what his protocols
Speaker 1: call for? Yep, another prediction for you. Does two Boots
Speaker 1: change his ways? And is is it all gonna be?
Speaker 1: Because Lieutenant Blake told him to change his shoes?
Speaker 2: I was thinking the exact same thing. I was like, Uh, dude,
Speaker 2: this is the guy who called you in to follow
Speaker 2: protocol and I get he's not wearing that the boots
Speaker 2: are not regulation, but uh, you just fucked up well.
Speaker 1: And the thing is like, we know that droids are droids.
Speaker 1: They follow protocols. It's very simple for them to do so.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of droids show too much emotion. Correct, yes,
Speaker 1: but two Boots has shown that he has enough of
Speaker 1: a connection to Lawson to show a little bit of
Speaker 1: regret or some sort of other emotions towards him. Remember
Speaker 1: when he was on desk duty, he moved everything in
Speaker 1: front of the picture so he wouldn't see him. So
Speaker 1: he has a connection to two Boots. It's not just
Speaker 1: a nickname, you know. So I'm thinking him realizing, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm no longer going to be known as two Boots anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be the same old droid as everybody
Speaker 1: else in this facility. He's gonna realize, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: have the freedoms that I did. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: go out and help Lawson.
Speaker 2: He's gonna help Lawson and Riley get off planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: And I felt bad for Riley. But Roy he's just
Speaker 2: doing probably his his good southern Southern duty and like
Speaker 2: pulling people off the street, like oh, you say, you
Speaker 2: know my dad, My dad's a cop. Cool, like we're
Speaker 2: helping people.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't think he had any like ill
Speaker 1: will at all. And of course I don't believe Diodoci
Speaker 1: was like, hey, where Jedi help us please? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were probably a little bit sneaky about it, not gonna lie.
Speaker 6: But I like, I'm I'm curious to see if he's
Speaker 6: going to just be the dead weight around Devin and
Speaker 6: mal right now, like, what is what is the purpose
Speaker 6: of bringing Riley into the mix other than hey now
Speaker 6: lost and has even more reason to work with mal
Speaker 6: you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: And I don't like that. I don't like pulling a
Speaker 2: kid into this. I feel like Star Wars has done
Speaker 2: this enough again. It's the repetitiveness where we keep telling
Speaker 2: the same things over and over. Like I just wish
Speaker 2: that Riley hadn't been brought into this. I would have
Speaker 2: like I understand that Dio, Docky and Devin probably had
Speaker 2: no idea what an inquisitor was, because the inquisitors have
Speaker 2: only probably just started, like your year past Revenge of
Speaker 2: the Sith. It totally makes sense like they've been training
Speaker 2: on Coruscant, but they probably really haven't been doing missions.
Speaker 2: And so it makes me nervous for Riley because I
Speaker 2: feel bad because Brightley is the star athlete and now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's been dragged out and is
Speaker 2: now being on the run because he made the mistake
Speaker 2: of bringing in Jedi. It wasn't necessarily that he did
Speaker 2: this out of like weirdness or the Dio Docky and
Speaker 2: Devin didn't go, oh, we're informants, we need to talk
Speaker 2: to your dad, like he really was just trying to
Speaker 2: be kind and because of his kindness, now he's worked
Speaker 2: on the run.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that one thing that I was not
Speaker 1: expecting that them do that they actually did do. We
Speaker 1: got to see the mother. The mother shows up of
Speaker 1: course because of Riley and lets her know, like, hey,
Speaker 1: something's going on. Dad is involved. You know what can
Speaker 1: we do? And of course I think I think the
Speaker 1: mother kind of knows how dangerous the Empire can be,
Speaker 1: because she's just like, hey, fo, follow protocol, just do
Speaker 1: what everything that is asked of you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Everything will be fine. So we'll see if she gets involved.
Speaker 1: I could see her being a little bit more involved
Speaker 1: in season two if we continue with lost In story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I I agree with you. I don't think they
Speaker 1: necessarily needed to bring Riley into the mix when it
Speaker 1: comes to everything else, like okay, having him welcome them
Speaker 1: into his home whatever, yeah whatever. Loss In, although we
Speaker 1: said last week, is kind of the run of the mill,
Speaker 1: kind of predictable character. Yeah, you need to give him
Speaker 1: storylines that we haven't already seen before. That's what's going
Speaker 1: to get him to be more and more interesting. We
Speaker 1: see that he has some sort of past working with
Speaker 1: bounty hunters in the past that is I can't remember
Speaker 1: her name off the top of my head, who helps
Speaker 1: them in episode six, But like, let's go that route,
Speaker 1: let's see what that's all about. Let's let's learn about
Speaker 1: him a little more. And like, genuinely, now that I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about it, I can already see uh Lucasfilm Publishing
Speaker 1: probably already pitching a loss in book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably to tackle that story or potentially a comic though.
Speaker 2: I know, like we talked about last week, Marvel Comics
Speaker 2: staffing gotten gutted, so we might not see his many
Speaker 2: frequent uh comic stories out of Marvel, But that could
Speaker 2: make sense, especially with season two coming. Like you could
Speaker 2: potentially time it right before season two because season two
Speaker 2: is probably next year, so you could time it along
Speaker 2: the same uh frame of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Trying to think if there's anything else,
Speaker 1: what if you.
Speaker 2: Think about moroc or Merrick. Obviously they're not said in
Speaker 2: this but.
Speaker 1: The inquisitor, Yeah, I think he right now is just
Speaker 1: the run of the mill inquisitors. He's not really showing
Speaker 1: anything other than the want to hunt and kill and
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: This guy is the first brother, which makes sense why
Speaker 2: he's kind of on one of the first missions because
Speaker 2: he's the first really allowed out of the pen, that
Speaker 2: is the torture dungeon of the inquisitors. Ye, so that
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he like we know that he tortured the
Speaker 1: chief because when Lawson goes into the interrogation room, he
Speaker 1: notices the the nail grooves into the table and he
Speaker 1: is doing his own investigation to find Mall. But he
Speaker 1: also is following Lawson, which is why he abruptly crashes
Speaker 1: the loss in household. But yeah, he right now, he's
Speaker 1: just a runner, a mill inquisitor. I don't think we're
Speaker 1: going to get much backstory out of him. I think
Speaker 1: he is literally just there for the lightsaber fights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. I do think I
Speaker 2: still am kind of on the lines that he's going
Speaker 2: to die in Mall. And that's why we don't see
Speaker 2: him later on in the process is because he dies.
Speaker 2: And that would again, if he dies, especially by Mall's hand,
Speaker 2: it would makes sense why the Knight sisters bring him
Speaker 2: back specifically because they knew he gave mal so much trouble,
Speaker 2: so therefore he could be a force to be reckoned with.
Speaker 1: Now I do want to bring up let me actually
Speaker 1: scroll all the way up when we were talking about
Speaker 1: got it uh Brent over at of course Marvel Alliance
Speaker 1: a gua. He says, I have seen Mal. I like
Speaker 1: the show, but I do wish he had more actual
Speaker 1: screen time. How do you feel about And I know
Speaker 1: we've talked about this before title name and we hardly
Speaker 1: see the character right.
Speaker 2: And we talked about it last week where we don't
Speaker 2: feel like Mal is getting enough screen time for really
Speaker 2: go okay, we're focusing on the side of characters. Where's
Speaker 2: ma Like, there's no new details for Mal and I
Speaker 2: would agree with that. I'm trying not to harp on
Speaker 2: that too too much because I just don't want to
Speaker 2: be repeating myself weech week, But yes, he doesn't have
Speaker 2: enough screen time for this to be defined clearly as well.
Speaker 2: And Lawson and Devin aren't spending enough time talking about
Speaker 2: Mal to really make it worth the timeframe of like
Speaker 2: we're throwing more details for what he's doing mm hmm
Speaker 2: to expand Mall story. Mall is the title character here.
Speaker 2: If you wanted to just call it this underworld, then
Speaker 2: call it underworld like so, yes, I'm sorry, finish your thought.
Speaker 1: I think one of the things when it comes to
Speaker 1: Mall's story, and I think this is something that TV
Speaker 1: overall has an issue with. My issue with TV is
Speaker 1: all of the like big story plots with mal personally
Speaker 1: won't come until the last three episodes.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Everything else is a build up to, Oh, this is
Speaker 1: what Mall was after all along, you know type of thing.
Speaker 2: And this is the downside of having twenty minute episodes
Speaker 2: and trying to justify it. The rest of the way
Speaker 2: is you're losing yourself on storytime, and twenty minute episodes
Speaker 2: makes sense when you have more episodes to play with
Speaker 2: ten episodes, the timing doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I and I apologize. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: can hear my daughter. I can hear outside of my headphones,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what is going on? She's she
Speaker 1: sounds like she's having fun, So it's it's not terrible.
Speaker 2: At least there's that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I've we've talked about the very unfortunate, what
Speaker 1: feels like downgrade to television, and I think it has
Speaker 1: something to do with with our own undoing with the
Speaker 1: fact that a lot of us are like twenty four episodes.
Speaker 1: There's so much filler. Why do we need all this,
Speaker 1: we could use just ten really great episodes blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 2: They we were talking about ten episodes with forty five
Speaker 2: minute long episodes that is all thirty minute or twenty minutes. Especially.
Speaker 1: I asked, I asked Abby, why is Amberlin being so
Speaker 1: loud right now? And she said she is being a ballerina,
Speaker 1: So that is that is the reason. I never knew
Speaker 1: ballerinas could be so loud.
Speaker 3: So so yeah.
Speaker 2: I told Maria tonight that barbecue was sausage because she
Speaker 2: asked for sausage. I was like, this is a different
Speaker 2: type of sausage. It's barbecue.
Speaker 1: It's so funny teaching like Amberlyn those types of things
Speaker 1: because like we we uh, like, of course down south
Speaker 1: hot dogs are hot dogs. Up here, they are also
Speaker 1: known as Coney's. So we're like, oh, we're gonna get Tony's.
Speaker 1: And so she's like, ew, I don't want coney So
Speaker 1: I was like, you eat Coney's all the time. They're
Speaker 1: hot dogs. She's like, no, hot dog is not a cony.
Speaker 1: Tony is not a Like she's so a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: She's like, Dad, you don't know what you're talking about, Like,
Speaker 1: stop stop lying to me. But yeah, like with with
Speaker 1: the whole idea around like what we could have gotten
Speaker 1: for the amount of television that we really want and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, I do hope that in the future
Speaker 1: we can get a little more. When it comes to
Speaker 1: let's say bad Batch. Bad Batch started with how many
Speaker 1: episodes in season one?
Speaker 2: I feel like it was twenty.
Speaker 1: I feel like it was twenty as well. I think
Speaker 1: it was. It was a lot, and then by the
Speaker 1: time season three came around, it down it like down
Speaker 1: its actual let's see here, let's look for it.
Speaker 2: So sixteen sixteen and fifteen Wow, I thought, I, you
Speaker 2: know what, bad Batch had the seventy four minute first
Speaker 2: episode of the season, So that's probably why I thought
Speaker 2: it was.
Speaker 1: That's probably why. But still adding five to six episodes
Speaker 1: to something like Maul, I think will be very beneficial.
Speaker 1: I think they should be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because otherwise it just doesn't feel like it feels
Speaker 2: like we're like drawing this out for a longer episode count.
Speaker 2: M h and I don't think like you and I
Speaker 2: both agreed, that's not how this should be done. You
Speaker 2: need to finish a season should be a story with
Speaker 2: potentially a cliffhanger to get you into the next season. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's a complete story. And at this point it feels
Speaker 2: like they said, oh, you know what, here's a here's
Speaker 2: a story. We can put this in three seasons and
Speaker 2: draw this out for three years, like instead of going,
Speaker 2: here's one story, here's two stories, here's three stories. Oh hey,
Speaker 2: all three stories lead into this one story overall, and
Speaker 2: yeah it work.
Speaker 1: Gotta love monetization and capitalism.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, uh, I I just want more.
Speaker 1: I do. I want more. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: this story right now is not good enough because I
Speaker 1: think it is doing okay. But I know the potential
Speaker 1: that Star Wars animation and has and this is not
Speaker 1: up to part I will say.
Speaker 2: That, yes, and I will finish with this. You're wasting
Speaker 2: the talent of Sam Whitweer and everybody else involved. You
Speaker 2: wanted Sam whitwre involved in more Star Wars storytelling. You
Speaker 2: are wasting his talents right now?
Speaker 1: Bingo, right, I think.
Speaker 2: That concludes our discussion.
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