Speaker 1: K f I am sixty. You're listening to Later with
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Speaker 2: I'm a politician, which means I'm a cheat and a liar,
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Speaker 2: The other side never quits.
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Speaker 1: I got to ask you a question, how well do
Speaker 1: you know your civics? How well do you know how
Speaker 1: your own country works?
Speaker 2: You know? Three ring circus three branches of government that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of times we get married
Speaker 1: about stuff because we don't know how things actually work.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is our president. He was elected by more
Speaker 1: people is than the popular vote, and he amassed more
Speaker 1: Electoral College votes. He is the president and to the
Speaker 1: victor go the spoils. And although many people may not
Speaker 1: agree with his legislative agenda, he has the right to
Speaker 1: enact it. Now, there are ways in which you can
Speaker 1: push back against that in the legal sense. You can
Speaker 1: offer legal challenges, you can try to force it up
Speaker 1: the court system, the pellet courts and the appeals court,
Speaker 1: and then it goes to the Supreme Court. Then the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court rules, and after that it's done. And one
Speaker 1: of those examples is having to do with firing federal workers.
Speaker 1: There was a challenge to what Doeze was doing. Whether
Speaker 1: they could the Trump administration legally fire federal workers. And
Speaker 1: that's separate and distinct from whether they had the autonomy
Speaker 1: and the power to move different budget items around, in
Speaker 1: other words, take federal funding. Just talking about firing federal workers,
Speaker 1: and for weeks now we've waited on the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to make a decision whether the Trump administration had the power,
Speaker 1: the legal right to fire federal workers. Scota said, yes,
Speaker 1: the president has that power, and the Trump administration is
Speaker 1: going to move ahead with these mass layoffs. This is
Speaker 1: what I would say, and this goes back to what
Speaker 1: I said earlier about the federal government versus state and
Speaker 1: local governments. I look at the federal government as the
Speaker 1: insurance policy. Reason why we have the FDA is it's
Speaker 1: an insurance policy to make sure that bad actors aren't
Speaker 1: messing with our food, for example. The reason why we
Speaker 1: had the EPA, and I say had as in past tense,
Speaker 1: because it's been basically dismantled, is to make sure that
Speaker 1: we're not doing things to environment which long term could
Speaker 1: really really be bad for us, be bad for us individually,
Speaker 1: be bad for us collectively and as a community. The
Speaker 1: reason why we have these federal agencies because it's not
Speaker 1: realistic to have states monitor quote unquote the environment, the food,
Speaker 1: and so forth.
Speaker 2: That's why you have these federal agencies.
Speaker 1: The Trump administration has come from the standpoint that there's
Speaker 1: too much blow. We don't need to have these agencies.
Speaker 1: We don't need to have the Department of Education. I
Speaker 1: personally disagree with that. I'm really big on education, but
Speaker 1: the Trump administration has taken the stand that there is
Speaker 1: too much bloat and we don't need this size of
Speaker 1: federal government, and so pursuing to the election and so
Speaker 1: that we are in a democracy, Well, let me stop
Speaker 1: right there. Yes, I know we're in a constitutional republic.
Speaker 1: But constitutional republic is a form of democracy. It's a
Speaker 1: representative democracy. It's shorthand. Okay, so you can use either interchangeably.
Speaker 1: It's not a true democracy is one person in one
Speaker 1: vote and so forth. But a constitutional republic is a
Speaker 1: form of democracy. We use democracy as a shorthand. I
Speaker 1: don't need you to correct me. Can't stand that. Learn
Speaker 1: your civics. But my point is since Donald Trump won
Speaker 1: and became president, these are some of the steps that
Speaker 1: he is taking as president. And they're moving ahead with
Speaker 1: these mass layoffs, going back to my analogy of how
Speaker 1: the federal government, I believe is an insurance policy. We
Speaker 1: won't see the direct and indirect effect of these mass
Speaker 1: layoffs until down the road. We talked earlier about how
Speaker 1: FEMA has a role and to what extent a role
Speaker 1: it should play in the MA management of disasters. When
Speaker 1: states themselves are unable to handle the size of them.
Speaker 1: If you think that Mississippi can handle a hurricane disaster
Speaker 1: in the same way that maybe Texas could, you're deluding yourself.
Speaker 1: There is a role for the federal government to play,
Speaker 1: but we won't see the true effects of a diminished
Speaker 1: or an eradicated FEMA in the short term. Most likely
Speaker 1: we would see it in the long term when we
Speaker 1: have a mass casualty event or some sort of disaster
Speaker 1: of mother Nature and thousands of people have been impacted,
Speaker 1: and oh like, for example, what's going on in North
Speaker 1: Carolina right now and how they're trying to rebuild, and
Speaker 1: they have been petitioning the federal government. Alabama's been petitioning
Speaker 1: the federal government for more aid in light of the tornadoes.
Speaker 1: This is something that could impact states and communities for years.
Speaker 1: Think about what happened with Hurricane Katrina in the city
Speaker 1: of New Orleans, and I visited New Orleans, and it
Speaker 1: took New Orleans at least ten years with the help
Speaker 1: of FEMA the federal government to get back to some
Speaker 1: sense of normality. But we won't know the importance of
Speaker 1: FEMA until down the road. We won't know until we
Speaker 1: have an issue which impacts tens of thousands of people
Speaker 1: we won't know, and so in the short term the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, they will be firing people left and right,
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of people. And there's an argument to
Speaker 1: be made, a good argument as far as whether all
Speaker 1: these federal employees are necessary. That is a good argument.
Speaker 1: There is an argument to be made about our budgeting,
Speaker 1: whether we are spending the money in the right way,
Speaker 1: on the right things, on the right people, at the
Speaker 1: right time, and under the right circumstances. Those are legitimate arguments.
Speaker 1: But there's also a legitimate argument as to whether this
Speaker 1: wholesale slashing of departments and agencies without real analysis of
Speaker 1: their impact and import has unintended consequences down the road.
Speaker 1: And again, I like the insurance analogy because I remember,
Speaker 1: and if you're over the age of forty, you remember
Speaker 1: as well. Elmer, I think you're under the age of forty,
Speaker 1: so he may not be there yet, but I remember
Speaker 1: when I was twenty one twenty two years old, I
Speaker 1: never got sick. I was in perfect health. I was
Speaker 1: working out every day. The whole idea of carrying health
Speaker 1: insurance is like you want me to pay for health
Speaker 1: insurance when I'm healthy all the time, I don't need
Speaker 1: health insurance. And this is actually before they even mandated
Speaker 1: car insurance. I said, I don't need car insurance. You
Speaker 1: know how much money I could save.
Speaker 2: Waste, fraud, and abuse.
Speaker 1: You know how much money I could save if I
Speaker 1: didn't pay for health insurance, if I didn't pay for
Speaker 1: car insurance.
Speaker 2: My car is just fine. I'm a good driver.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get any accidents, and I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get sick. I don't need long term dissabl ability on
Speaker 1: my work insurance.
Speaker 2: I don't need any of that.
Speaker 1: And then you get a little older, and then you
Speaker 1: start understanding how and why you need it there just
Speaker 1: in case you need it there for actual disasters or emergencies.
Speaker 1: And you get older and you understand the long term
Speaker 1: applications of not having health insurance, not having car insurance,
Speaker 1: whether you can afford it or not, but not having
Speaker 1: it can make a disaster even worse. And this is
Speaker 1: what I think may happen here in America with all
Speaker 1: this wholesale cutting of agencies and employees for the sake
Speaker 1: of numerology, for the sake of budgets, for the sake
Speaker 1: of line items saving money. Sometimes you can cut off
Speaker 1: an arm and the leg and then you end up
Speaker 1: killing the body all together. Gary Shannon Show, I'm O
Speaker 1: Kelly here.
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Speaker 2: And the second portion of Swamp Watch.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about tariffs generally and specifically. We
Speaker 1: know our president is really focusing on using tariffs to
Speaker 1: i'll say realign our trade relationships all around the world.
Speaker 1: Originally he had talked about some ninety trade deals in
Speaker 1: ninety days, didn't quite make it there. He has the
Speaker 1: framework on three different trade deals and maybe one another
Speaker 1: in the pipeline. But for any trade deal to be
Speaker 1: consummated has to be passed by Congress, going back to
Speaker 1: Civics first and foremost, So saying we have a deal
Speaker 1: and even the announcement of a deal does not mean
Speaker 1: we actually have a deal until the deal is consummated
Speaker 1: via of Congress. And when you watch these things, when
Speaker 1: you listen to things, I always want to make sure
Speaker 1: that people know what they're listening to or what's being
Speaker 1: told to them. You can come to your own conclusion,
Speaker 1: but you should know. But is factual and what is fiction?
Speaker 1: And as far as tariffs are concerned, I hope people know. Like,
Speaker 1: let's say Elmer. I'm gonna pick on Elmer for a second.
Speaker 1: And Elmer has his business, Elmer's Widgets. Elmer's widgets is
Speaker 1: doing real well, and he sells widgets for maybe a
Speaker 1: dollar each. And President Trumps said, we're putting a tariff
Speaker 1: on all widgets. But Elmer has to buy his widgets
Speaker 1: from China. In this hypothetical, so for you, Elmer, you
Speaker 1: sell your widgets at a dollar each. Yeah, you buy
Speaker 1: excuse me, you sell them. You have to buy them
Speaker 1: for a dollar each. Okay, you purchase each unit a
Speaker 1: dollar each. And then the President says, we're gonna put
Speaker 1: a twenty five percent tariff on your widgets, which means you,
Speaker 1: as Elmer's widgets, have to pay the dollar twenty five
Speaker 1: for each widget wholesale costs. No, because that's how you
Speaker 1: get your widgets from China. That twenty five percent is
Speaker 1: a cost that you have to incur. China's not paying it.
Speaker 1: China is saying, hey, Elmer, if you want these widgets,
Speaker 1: they're gonna cost more because there's a tariff, which means
Speaker 1: the importer. You as the importer, you're bringing the widgets
Speaker 1: into the country, you have to pay for them. Now
Speaker 1: you have a decision to make elmore. You can purchase
Speaker 1: those widgets at a dollar twenty five and either eat
Speaker 1: it or pass it along.
Speaker 2: To the consumer. That's up to you.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see, but China does not pay that tariff.
Speaker 1: China is only offering you the opportunity to purchase your
Speaker 1: goods from China. The whole point of a tariff is
Speaker 1: to make or i should say, level a competitive playing
Speaker 1: field where let's say you have United States manufacturers domestic
Speaker 1: manufacturers of widgets. Then you can say, okay, since it's
Speaker 1: more expensive to import your widgets, you may look for
Speaker 1: an American supplier of widgets and let's say a cost
Speaker 1: maybe a dollar fifteen to provide that same widget to you,
Speaker 1: and you know, USA widgets is now a better option.
Speaker 1: But as far as paying the tariff, China doesn't pay it.
Speaker 1: Anyone who would then want to import those widgets pays
Speaker 1: the tariff. So when someone says China's going to pay
Speaker 1: the tariff for these other countries is going to pay
Speaker 1: the tariff, that is actually not true. The importer pays
Speaker 1: the tariff, and the importer then has to make a
Speaker 1: decision whether the importer Elmer's Widgets, is going to pass
Speaker 1: that on to me as a cost who wants to
Speaker 1: buy widgets, or Elmer's Widgets can eat that and just
Speaker 1: still sell.
Speaker 2: It at a dollar.
Speaker 1: That means you're losing money because you're paying more than
Speaker 1: what you're selling it for. Whatever your margins were beforehand.
Speaker 1: You may even shrink your margins. Let's say you were
Speaker 1: selling that widget at a dollar fifty. Originally you're paying
Speaker 1: for it for a dollar per unit and selling it
Speaker 1: for a dollar fifty. Now you're paying a dollar twenty
Speaker 1: five per unit. You can still sell it for a
Speaker 1: dollar fifty. That would mean you're eating the cost the
Speaker 1: price increase because of the tariff. Or you can say,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to sell it for a dollar seventy
Speaker 1: five and get my twenty five cents back twenty five
Speaker 1: cents extra. And that is how we should look at
Speaker 1: these stories about teriffs. When the President says that a
Speaker 1: fifty percent tariff on copper imports is coming, and he
Speaker 1: threatens a two hundred percent want on pharmaceuticals, that only
Speaker 1: matters relative to what the importer decides to do, said
Speaker 1: at the Cabinet meeting yesterday, quote, we're doing copper and
Speaker 1: the added they who believe the rate would be fifty percent.
Speaker 1: And we know that most imported cars in car parts
Speaker 1: are facing a twenty five percent tariff. Imported steel and
Speaker 1: aluminum both face fifty percent tariffs. So importers, car companies,
Speaker 1: or any company which uses copper now has to make
Speaker 1: a decision. They can either purchase and import the copper
Speaker 1: or the other parts for cars at the increased price
Speaker 1: point and then decide to pass that on to consumers
Speaker 1: like you and me, or they can find an American
Speaker 1: supplier to get their copper from and depending on the
Speaker 1: raw goods and materials. We don't have that in America,
Speaker 1: but if you have the option, then you can look
Speaker 1: to an American supplier and buy from them. The thinking
Speaker 1: behind the tariff is if you put a high enough tariff,
Speaker 1: then people will have no choice but to buy America.
Speaker 1: That works in theory provided you can buy American. Like
Speaker 1: for example, if you have a smartphone. Everybody has a smartphone.
Speaker 1: You might be listening on the iHeartRadio app. Those chips,
Speaker 1: those semiconductor chips are all made in China and Taiwan,
Speaker 1: so that phone is most likely going to cost more
Speaker 1: no matter what. China's not paying for that, Taiwan is
Speaker 1: not paying for that. You as a consumer are most
Speaker 1: likely going to pay that unless Apple or Google decide
Speaker 1: to eat that tariff because the smart the smartphone semiconductor
Speaker 1: chips now cost more because of these tariffs. It's complicated
Speaker 1: and at the same time it's simple. The tariffs are
Speaker 1: going to be passed on to us most likely, and
Speaker 1: we're going to be paying more for the goods and services.
Speaker 1: But it does open up the door the possibility in
Speaker 1: certain industries, depending on what it is, for us to
Speaker 1: instead buy American. But they're almost virtually no products which
Speaker 1: are completely constructed and manufactured here in America. You can
Speaker 1: go get a Ford, which is a quote unquote American
Speaker 1: made car, and that crosses the border many times. It
Speaker 1: has all sorts of parts which are made outside the country,
Speaker 1: which are brought into the country, which are which will
Speaker 1: have a tariff put on them, and it still makes
Speaker 1: the final product the Forward automobile, which is quote unquote
Speaker 1: an American company. That car is still going to cost
Speaker 1: more because it's its internal parts were made overseas and
Speaker 1: they're not made here. They still cross the border from
Speaker 1: maybe Canada, and they go back and forth in their
Speaker 1: tariff each time that they cross the border. So even
Speaker 1: though you may be buying American, not every part in
Speaker 1: it is made in America or is available to be
Speaker 1: purchased in America.
Speaker 2: This is another thing.
Speaker 1: Where it's going to take I would say months, maybe
Speaker 1: even years to see the full impact of this tariff war,
Speaker 1: if you will, and see whether it's good for economy
Speaker 1: or not. If you're trying to make a decision right now,
Speaker 1: you're not really paying attention because it's going to take
Speaker 1: some time for the markets to settle and decide whether
Speaker 1: we want to pay the prices that importers are passing
Speaker 1: along to us or whether we're going to just not
Speaker 1: buy anything at all. So keep on watching. It's a
Speaker 1: Garyan Shannon show. Mo Kelly Here, I am six forty.
Speaker 1: We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Speaker 1: And I love the opportunity if I should be filling
Speaker 1: in for Gary and Shannon to talk to people like
Speaker 1: Justin Wersham, Huh, because not only do they sometimes forget
Speaker 1: how fricking funny you are. Oh that's very kind, but
Speaker 1: you're a good dude, and we need to talk more
Speaker 1: just in general. So let's talk about parenting with Justin Worsham. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where do you want to start today?
Speaker 4: I think you're I think you and I are gonna
Speaker 4: have a lot of mileage in these eighties tropes of
Speaker 4: parenting that are long gone that they would be illegal
Speaker 4: today because when I first saw this, I didn't know
Speaker 4: you were filling in, and I like to find things
Speaker 4: that will sometimes trigger Gary. But when I found out
Speaker 4: you were here, I'm like, this is gonna more than
Speaker 4: trigger MO, Like, I think this is this excites you
Speaker 4: like it does because I was a kid who was
Speaker 4: raised on the belt, and I'm a firm believer of
Speaker 4: physical discipline.
Speaker 2: Beat your kids before they grow up and break in
Speaker 2: my house. I'm serious. I would rather That's part of
Speaker 2: why it's so funny. I'm not to get I'm so serious.
Speaker 1: I would rather they learn strict physical discipline than smash
Speaker 1: again grabby right.
Speaker 4: I wonder you know that is interesting? I wonder what
Speaker 4: the over under is on people who are incarcerated of
Speaker 4: like if they had physical discipline in their like. I
Speaker 4: also like they call it corporal punishment, which I think
Speaker 4: is interesting.
Speaker 1: We had teachers wrap my knuckles with a ruler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in school, But I'm a firm believe it to be
Speaker 1: real serious and not taken away from you. My father
Speaker 1: was very strict with me, and he was teaching me
Speaker 1: parameters boundaries that the world if it were to treat
Speaker 1: teach me later, I would end up in jail or
Speaker 1: did He was saying that I need you to teach
Speaker 1: you this. If you do this and go too far
Speaker 1: and you get your ass whipped by me, is because
Speaker 1: I'd rather it come from me than the prison.
Speaker 2: Or the morgue or both. Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well here let's go down these. Just to give
Speaker 4: you some more rant stuff is letting kids ride in
Speaker 4: the front seat just at General.
Speaker 2: I was always so bad.
Speaker 4: I told you before we came back that I had
Speaker 4: my son was maybe five months old. We're going to
Speaker 4: a road trip to Denver to take my.
Speaker 2: Son to sea. Young children saying, oh, he he was
Speaker 2: very young.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying this is anybody, But I'm just giving
Speaker 4: the example as an extreme example. We were driving through
Speaker 4: a snowstorm. I was doing maybe fifteen to twenty miles
Speaker 4: an hour. My son was five months old. He needed
Speaker 4: either a diaper change or to eat, and my wife's like,
Speaker 4: you gotta pull over so I could feed him or whatever.
Speaker 4: I was like, no, I go just do it in
Speaker 4: the car. We're barely moving. She's like, we can't do that,
Speaker 4: that's illegal. I'm like you and I didn't have car seats.
Speaker 4: We we sat like. I did a three day road
Speaker 4: trip to Texas where they just put like a spot
Speaker 4: where a suitcase would go in the trunk of a
Speaker 4: station wagon, and that is where I lived for three days.
Speaker 2: I will do you one better. I bet you have
Speaker 2: far father's car.
Speaker 1: It had a bench as a back seat, and a
Speaker 1: bench is a front seat. Didn't have bucket seats. I
Speaker 1: don't think it even it had a lap seat belt.
Speaker 1: It didn't have a shoulder seat belt.
Speaker 2: Swinging loose. Nobody woreried.
Speaker 1: It was just follow you while you're rolling in the
Speaker 1: side and he stabled the brakes and I bounce off
Speaker 1: the front bench seat.
Speaker 2: Like the old con put you off, jarm out. That's you.
Speaker 4: That was your parental seat belt smoking around the kid.
Speaker 4: This was my entire childhood, to the point where my
Speaker 4: dad passed away. I took up smoking again just as
Speaker 4: a way of remembering.
Speaker 2: Both my parents.
Speaker 1: Smoked until they were forty and my father's mother had
Speaker 1: come to live with us, my grandmother, and she smoked
Speaker 1: until the day she died. She would smoke in the
Speaker 1: car with the windows rolled up, and I'm the kid
Speaker 1: she'd picked me up from school, and I'm thinking, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is what it's like to smoke, because the whole
Speaker 1: car was filled with smoke.
Speaker 2: Talk about second half smoked. I should be dead at
Speaker 2: lump cancer by my head turn while you're kindergarten. This
Speaker 2: is one that I think is interesting.
Speaker 4: But because there's no like a physic like official age
Speaker 4: in the law, but letting kids stay home alone at
Speaker 4: a very young age, like I was in third grade,
Speaker 4: probably seven eight years old, when I was home alone
Speaker 4: after school for a while, how about you.
Speaker 2: I got two words for you. That's key. Kid.
Speaker 1: If you were home and could lock the door, you
Speaker 1: were good because the instructions were don't open the door
Speaker 1: for anyone and don't turn on the stove.
Speaker 4: But I was like today's kids. I think they feel
Speaker 4: traumatized if they get left alone. I thought it was magical.
Speaker 4: I can watch whatever I wanted on TV, I could
Speaker 4: eat whatever I wanted. I never felt neglected at all
Speaker 4: by it.
Speaker 1: What did you do for sick days? My parents went
Speaker 1: to work, I was home sick or sick air quotes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And many times I was maybe four or five years old.
Speaker 1: Now today they would look at that as like parental neglect.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Me, it was like, hey, cartoon, this is great show, right,
Speaker 1: it's a win.
Speaker 2: This This is where maybe I get too bubble. Maybe
Speaker 2: you'll disagree with me.
Speaker 4: But leaving kids in the car while running errands, like
Speaker 4: going into the store, like that's pretty especially it's other California.
Speaker 2: That's not a good idea. It's not a good idea
Speaker 2: then or now.
Speaker 1: But when they did it back in the day, we
Speaker 1: had vinyl seats, which were like, oh yeah, say leather,
Speaker 1: I said, vinyl and those things and the dashboard it
Speaker 1: would start cracking over there. It's just from the heat.
Speaker 1: It was much more dangerous than than now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know this was a thing, but I
Speaker 4: just don't even remember having car set. But it says
Speaker 4: no car seats after age three. I don't ever remember
Speaker 4: there being a car seat, like I think you have
Speaker 4: car seats like up until like they're twelve. Their feet
Speaker 4: gotta be all today. Yeah, today they're almost like thirteen fourteen,
Speaker 4: like I took it out.
Speaker 2: Of ten, like I just said, you're done, We're done here,
Speaker 2: this fine.
Speaker 1: I never sat in a car seat in my life. No,
Speaker 1: me neither, So I don't know when the law changed.
Speaker 1: But you know, I thought if they could sit in
Speaker 1: the seat belt and the lap excuse me, the cross
Speaker 1: belt didn't cut their necks off their circulation, they were
Speaker 1: good enough.
Speaker 4: The biggest tragedy of the kids today is letting them
Speaker 4: play outside all day without checking in. Remember when the
Speaker 4: street lights came in, that was the international sign you
Speaker 4: had to go home.
Speaker 1: I had to check in every two and a half hours. Really, yes,
Speaker 1: Oh I had to call in obviously from a landfill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember my mother called the police. I mean when
Speaker 1: I didn't check in after five hours, I rode my
Speaker 1: bike from Harbor City to Torrents and I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to check in, and then I was gone.
Speaker 2: I missed my check in. It's almost like proof of
Speaker 2: life concept.
Speaker 1: I didn't call in, so they called LAPD on me
Speaker 1: and put in a missing person's report. So when I
Speaker 1: came home at five o'clock, true story, and I and
Speaker 1: all the kids in the neighborhood they saw him.
Speaker 2: It's like, where you been? And I said, ride in
Speaker 2: my bike? What the FM deal? What do you care?
Speaker 2: I said, don't go home home. That's not your home anymore.
Speaker 2: You're on the lamb.
Speaker 1: And I hit the corner and I saw a LAPD
Speaker 1: in my driveway and I speed up, thinking like, what
Speaker 1: did someone gets shot?
Speaker 2: Did they robbed the house? It was a burglary.
Speaker 1: And I got home and my mother's looking like, bring
Speaker 1: your black ass.
Speaker 4: This is what you like spanking in public. You already
Speaker 4: talked about that, you're a fan of that. This is
Speaker 4: when I get so much flak, even from my kids
Speaker 4: pediatrician letting kids drink soda all day. I never touched
Speaker 4: water as a kid, stayed alive. My parents didn't allow
Speaker 4: me to drink soda.
Speaker 1: For you, and to their credit, I do not drink
Speaker 1: any soda now.
Speaker 2: So that was a good habit they instilled in me.
Speaker 4: I'll do this last one because I just love the
Speaker 4: way it's written. No sunscreen, helmets or safety cure, just
Speaker 4: vibes like I like that they modernized it. I lost
Speaker 4: a couple of baby teeth riding my bike, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: fell in the street, knocked my teeth out right in
Speaker 4: front of my house.
Speaker 1: My mother lost her mind. I remember kicking a bottle
Speaker 1: and cutting my foot open. Didn't get stitches. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I drank water on the hose. I did all those things,
Speaker 1: all those dangerous, stupid things. I played Ding dong ditch
Speaker 1: toilet paper people's houses. They shoot you for that now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I can say I've lived now. They come and
Speaker 1: they come to your door and they just spray you
Speaker 1: a silly string. That's the extent of the prank. No,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even do that now because it's dangerous. You know,
Speaker 1: they shoot people through doors being very serious. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. But yeah, that's all the stuff. From that.
Speaker 4: I think the big thing, like, the biggest thing that
Speaker 4: we're taking away from these young kids is that they
Speaker 4: don't have any awareness. Like I'm not saying I want
Speaker 4: kids to get hurt or I want them to be
Speaker 4: in dangerous situations, but when everything is a bubble, like
Speaker 4: if you go to a pickup at.
Speaker 2: A middle school or a high school. Those kids just walk.
Speaker 4: Into a hot crosswalk and they don't even look paying
Speaker 4: attention their phones.
Speaker 2: They're just looking at the ground. Yeah, it's it's amazingly
Speaker 2: you just assume that to stop. Yeah, we got to
Speaker 2: pick this up.
Speaker 1: On the other side, I think we were born the
Speaker 1: same day, same place, ye lived in the same house.
Speaker 2: Are you should You're not my brother? I would be
Speaker 2: so great if I was. This would be a great
Speaker 2: day to find out and be done. Look, daddy, you
Speaker 2: got something explaining to do. I would be so happy
Speaker 2: to be able to use the phrase brother from another mother.
Speaker 3: You're listening to Later with Moe Kelly on Demand from
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Speaker 2: O Kelly infiguring Shannon, just today, just today, It'll be
Speaker 2: all right. You're talking parenting with just what's you get
Speaker 2: those messages like what are you doing? Why are you here?
Speaker 4: That it's true about radio listeners specifically, I feel like
Speaker 4: any deviation from the pattern and it's my fault.
Speaker 2: It's like, why.
Speaker 1: Because they called me, I promise you A would have
Speaker 1: been snoring right now.
Speaker 2: I didn't plan to be. I'm the night guy. I'm
Speaker 2: not I don't want to be here. I'm just keeping
Speaker 2: the chair warm.
Speaker 4: That's great, but it's almost there's almost like a correlation here.
Speaker 2: We talk about parenting and kids.
Speaker 1: These expectations that kids have, They just expect things. They
Speaker 1: expect that you're going to pay for their lifestyle, and
Speaker 1: to some degree, at some ages that's accurate. After a
Speaker 1: certain point, it's not accurate and they start taking liberties.
Speaker 4: I heard an interesting stat that this generation of children
Speaker 4: is going to be the first generation that is less
Speaker 4: well off than their parents were financially.
Speaker 1: And part of that is not their fault. Like, for example,
Speaker 1: when I moved out an owl's mouthing off to my mother,
Speaker 1: she kicked me out and I deserved it. No point there,
Speaker 1: But I moved in with my friends into a three
Speaker 1: bedroom apartment.
Speaker 2: This is nineteen ninety one, No. Ninety two.
Speaker 1: Moved into a three bedroom apartment in Torrents. We all
Speaker 1: paid four hundred dollars each. So it's twelve hundred dollars
Speaker 1: for a three bedroom in nineteen ninety two, and a
Speaker 1: good part of torrans that's at least four thousand dollars
Speaker 1: now at least.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: It's as we've even talked about the idea of maybe
Speaker 4: leaving Southern California when my kids are done with high school,
Speaker 4: because I don't they can't just get a regular job
Speaker 4: here in Southern California and get a house, like there's
Speaker 4: no way they can afford it, Like I have so
Speaker 4: many parents who have to kick in at least a
Speaker 4: quarter of a million dollars in some cases as much
Speaker 4: as seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars, or even one
Speaker 4: case where a parent paid one point three million dollars
Speaker 4: just paid for the house because the kids. There's no
Speaker 4: way that a kid could afford it.
Speaker 1: To appreciate this, my parents, my father's passed on, but
Speaker 1: they bought this house that they live in, my mother
Speaker 1: lives in now to this date, they've lived in more
Speaker 1: than fifty years. They bought it in Harbor City in
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five for fifty four thousand dollars a four
Speaker 1: bedroom house, two person, two parent salary.
Speaker 2: They're both teachers, so moderate middle income.
Speaker 1: But they could buy a four bedroom house for fifty
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars in nineteen seventy five. Now the house
Speaker 1: now is probably worth more than a million. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: no matter where you are, okay. Yeah, that's that time
Speaker 1: is never coming back. And I'm not going to blame
Speaker 1: people who were just born later in the in the
Speaker 1: in the timeline of history.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because inflation doesn't caught up with wages, haven't caught
Speaker 4: up with the inflation of those prices, not at all.
Speaker 4: In fact, part of what the other segment I want
Speaker 4: to talk about was empty nests, and they talk about
Speaker 4: that more than half of kids that are eighteen to
Speaker 4: twenty nine either live at home or are supported by
Speaker 4: their parents in some way financially, where in nineteen sixty
Speaker 4: was twenty five percent.
Speaker 2: We do the latter.
Speaker 1: In other words, you have to show the initiative and
Speaker 1: will help you relative to the initiatives the show. You
Speaker 1: got to make sure that you're at least gainfully employed.
Speaker 1: I want to know that you're working in the right direction,
Speaker 1: that you're playing Paying for a modicum of your bills,
Speaker 1: Like you're paying for your car will help you with
Speaker 1: your insurance. You're paying for rent, will help you with
Speaker 1: your rent. In other words, if you're trying to do
Speaker 1: the right thing, then my wife and I can see
Speaker 1: a way to help you.
Speaker 2: But if you're just sitting on your.
Speaker 1: Ass and saying like, hey, everything's so expensive out there,
Speaker 1: you're leaving us no choice but to ignore you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can't live here.
Speaker 4: Like we talked about the last sec are a possible
Speaker 4: mutual father My dad said to me at one point
Speaker 4: where I said I needed some help for some money,
Speaker 4: He's like, I've helped you before. It doesn't seem to work.
Speaker 4: So you're going to figure this one out on your own.
Speaker 4: Best thing you ever did for me, Like best thing
Speaker 4: he ever did. Now, again, I'm not trying to imply
Speaker 4: that people need just to throw their kids out of
Speaker 4: the house, but there is there's a middle of the road.
Speaker 4: There's a middle of the road between like no help whatsoever,
Speaker 4: regardless of the circumstance. To me, that's not what family
Speaker 4: is for, and then covering everything with a very little
Speaker 4: to no expectation on the kid, like how do you
Speaker 4: expect them to rise that expectation if you don't have one.
Speaker 1: This is something that I actually had to argue and
Speaker 1: fight with my wife over because when I have blended
Speaker 1: family stepsons, but I had them as teenagers, and so
Speaker 1: I look at it through a different lens, and I
Speaker 1: was brought up in this way My parents were firm
Speaker 1: in the idea of giving me a bill, giving me
Speaker 1: something that I was responsible for. In today's world, that
Speaker 1: translates to paying for their cell phone. So they have
Speaker 1: to show a level of responsibility to keep something which
Speaker 1: is important to them. And then by the time they're
Speaker 1: at nineteen twenty twenty one, they're hopefully a better manager
Speaker 1: of money and understand that with choices come consequence as
Speaker 1: far as how they spend their money, and maybe they're
Speaker 1: better prepared to handle multiple bills because.
Speaker 4: It's becoming a growing trend. They call it multi generational
Speaker 4: housing where kids are staying in.
Speaker 2: This was also I did some research in it.
Speaker 4: This was common in other cultures, just not the Caucasian culture.
Speaker 2: Evidently, we want.
Speaker 4: Our kids to hell out of the house, but they're
Speaker 4: there's something to tell you about Black culture.
Speaker 2: Okay, these mother fathers need to get out. I will
Speaker 2: help you. And my wife said it. She made it
Speaker 2: very clear.
Speaker 1: She said, you were above eighteen, I don't need a roommate.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna either go to school or are you
Speaker 1: gonna go I told him by my dad at one time.
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I was halfway through my senior year I turned eighteen,
Speaker 4: and then the dynamic changed.
Speaker 2: We were always very close.
Speaker 4: He was like my best friend my entire life, not
Speaker 4: in the friend way like he was a dad, right,
Speaker 4: but still like I love.
Speaker 2: Talking to him, I love hanging out with him.
Speaker 4: And it took me until I was like twenty one,
Speaker 4: like everybody, and I look back and I was like, hey,
Speaker 4: were you like an a hole on purpose when I
Speaker 4: turned eighteen? Because you wanted me to leave? And this
Speaker 4: he said, a great line, He goes, I didn't want
Speaker 4: you to be comfortable?
Speaker 2: Yes, no, I said tect to my wife. I said,
Speaker 2: they're too comfortable. There's no reason to leave.
Speaker 1: If you're paying for their food, they're sheltered, their clothing,
Speaker 1: their phone bill, their car note, their car insurance.
Speaker 2: That's a great life. Who could get it? Who would
Speaker 2: want to leave that? I would love a sugar mama, right,
Speaker 2: I said. I looked at my wife. I said, do
Speaker 2: you do that for me? Why are we going to
Speaker 2: do that for these crumb snatchers? They don't even do dishes?
Speaker 2: It's so true, so true. Last word is yours? Just empty.
Speaker 2: Nesting is what we were trying to talk about.
Speaker 4: The point is make sure you stay connected as a
Speaker 4: couple because eventually all the kids leave and you don't
Speaker 4: want to be distracted.
Speaker 2: So if you got a youngest kid.
Speaker 4: Who's going to be leaving soon, start having some date
Speaker 4: nights because a lot of people find themselves struggling when
Speaker 4: they're like, we don't have that buffer or distraction of kids,
Speaker 4: and this is.
Speaker 2: You and me again. Oh.
Speaker 1: The best thing about being empty nestres because all the
Speaker 1: sons have left is I had to let them know.
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, you may know the code to walk
Speaker 1: in the house, digital locks and that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: but do not, under any circumstances walk in this house
Speaker 1: unmounts okay, because I like to walk around bucket ass naked.
Speaker 1: So if you want to go against that, that's on you.
Speaker 2: That's on you.
Speaker 4: What you see is what you see. You don't live
Speaker 4: here anymore, Okay. Had to live with her in laws
Speaker 4: because their house is getting worked on. And one day
Speaker 4: they came home and her mom and dad were on
Speaker 4: the couch having a good old time and she's said,
Speaker 4: oh oh, and her husband.
Speaker 2: Was like, that's great.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy for them, like at their age especially,
Speaker 4: and now every time she would come home, she'd shake
Speaker 4: her keys and keep her like we're here.
Speaker 2: You learn your lesson? Did you? Justin is always good
Speaker 2: to see you.
Speaker 4: Better see you man, Thank you, Garry Shannonshow mo Kelly
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