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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Calling All Beings on a Wednesday night

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<v Speaker 1>where we got a very special guest along with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>We got my homegirl. Well you know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm DJ, the ball guy, fifty something. None

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<v Speaker 1>of your damn business exactly how old I am? But

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<v Speaker 1>I got my homegirl in the house via the d

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<v Speaker 1>O double GA. What's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi?

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<v Speaker 3>How are you all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Homie? How you doing good? You ready to do this

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<v Speaker 1>damn thing? Learning about Christie?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>What else we're gonna do?

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna do with a fundraiser, I have the Defense

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<v Speaker 4>link up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right right there, baby, We're gonna raise some money

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<v Speaker 1>for Karen Reid. And because we can duel to ask

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<v Speaker 1>in this joint, right, yeah, we know how to do

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<v Speaker 1>this thing and we are gonna do it. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though my voice is a little bit toast, my spirit

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<v Speaker 1>most suddenly is not. So let us introduce our guest

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<v Speaker 1>co host tonight, who will be asking questions, who will

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<v Speaker 1>be part of the joint. Who connected us up with

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<v Speaker 1>this young lady. We're very excited to have her back,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna say hi to everybody in the shot said,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you wear about nothing? Well, first, before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into that, let's say hello to my homegirl, who's representing

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<v Speaker 1>the turtle representing Karen Reid. She's bad asking, ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>no time for your drama part of people. Put your

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<v Speaker 1>hand together for gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, I have a lot of time for drama.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the drama, all right, Ain't got no time

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<v Speaker 1>to be scared of your drama. You can't scare it

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<v Speaker 1>those woman, but maybe yeah, give me some of that.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go. All right, all right, so your friend here,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you meet your friend that were Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>just lost Bia, she'll come.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, Okay, When did I meet Christy? So? I was

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<v Speaker 3>going through some old messages of ours today, going back

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<v Speaker 3>about a year and a half, and we would just

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<v Speaker 3>we actually started out being friendly and we would talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the case. And then she became the dark She

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<v Speaker 3>went to the dark side, on to the anti side,

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<v Speaker 3>and she would she would message me and like make

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<v Speaker 3>fun of the fact that Eden was arrested and he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to prison. You're the talk of Twitter, just

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<v Speaker 3>like not nice. We didn't like each other. It was

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<v Speaker 3>not nice things of both of ours side. And then

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<v Speaker 3>we kind of lost touch. And then probably she can

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<v Speaker 3>tell you more. But I think probably like four or

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<v Speaker 3>five months ago, she reached out to me on a

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<v Speaker 3>burner account and was like telling me some things but

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say who it was. And she would say, can

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<v Speaker 3>you tell Aidan this? Can you tell Aidan that? And

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know who it was. And then she came

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<v Speaker 3>out that she was Christie and she had reached out

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<v Speaker 3>to Aidan herself. So we've just talked and we've formed

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<v Speaker 3>a friendship and now she, you know, kind of knows

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<v Speaker 3>all my secrets. And I think she's really brave for,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, doing what she did. And you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>realized that what they were doing to Aidan was not right.

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<v Speaker 3>She wasn't going to stand by and watch an innocent

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<v Speaker 3>man be put in prison. And she came out like

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<v Speaker 3>and she still wasn't sure, and she can tell you

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<v Speaker 3>when she comes on. She wasn't sure if she was

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<v Speaker 3>even free. Karen Reid, she was kind of at the

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<v Speaker 3>thing like, I don't care if she did it or

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't do it, just want it to be fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I think she's more leaning towards she didn't do it,

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<v Speaker 3>because she realizes that she was told a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>lies and she can go into that more by the

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<v Speaker 3>other side to kind of spread around. You know, it

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<v Speaker 3>was all it was planned. You know, they were told

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<v Speaker 3>what to say. So yeah, now she's great. She's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the funniest people I know. We text every day,

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<v Speaker 3>you boys message every day like she's amazing and the

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<v Speaker 3>troubles hater.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what is going to be so cool about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a journey that very few people have taken,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're honored that Christy would accept this invitation to

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<v Speaker 1>come on, calling all beings to speak with BA and I. So,

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<v Speaker 1>without further idea, people put those hands together for christ Stein.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, guys, you got me? Yes, Jangle got on.

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<v Speaker 3>It didn't take much though it didn't take too much.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a little bit like you want to do

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<v Speaker 3>this with me?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, yeah, time, I had a couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get I'm bed. We really are honored that

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't done it. What we want to do first,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to say, because the people in the chat

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<v Speaker 1>are going to support this, we want to announce what

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing. We're tonight, we're here to interview Christy in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. We are every fifteen minutes or so, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to bring up our Karen Reid fundraiser Kyle, which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to look like this, So let's let's get that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we want to say hi to everybody in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat because we love you and without you, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a show. So let's get that right out there,

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<v Speaker 1>right Christy, So in the back, Christy has agreed to

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<v Speaker 1>share the stage with Karen Reid's birthday. It is Karen

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<v Speaker 1>Reid's birthday, the heroin with whom we seek to get

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<v Speaker 1>a release from the clutches of the Norfolk County DA

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<v Speaker 1>and all of the douchebags, including prosecuting attorneys Bev Canoni

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<v Speaker 1>and Hank Brennan. So anyway we are running this, there

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<v Speaker 1>should be pinned at the top of the chat. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you guys can see this, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is right here. I try to pin it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it pinned because it wasn't the first chat,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, there is.

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<v Speaker 3>It there, thank you, I think, I think so, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it should be pinned to the top of the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>And also we'll be scrolling. We'll have banners scrolling throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the evening. Every fifteen minutes or so, we'll bring this up.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want super chats tonight. If you do super chat,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to donate that money to Karen Reid.

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<v Speaker 1>We would prefer that you go here or to her

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<v Speaker 1>Venmo or to her PayPal, and we will stream those

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<v Speaker 1>across the bottom of the screen. And if you think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna forget to show this up on screen, I

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<v Speaker 1>won't because Ba is here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes. And if you can just add a little note

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<v Speaker 4>and say calling All Beings, send you, send you for

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<v Speaker 4>the donation. When you make the donation, just add from

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<v Speaker 4>Calling All Beings and we will and we will announce it,

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<v Speaker 4>and we.

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<v Speaker 1>Will announce it so it may be at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the show because I don't want to interrupt this

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<v Speaker 1>interview with Christy, but we will. We will call out

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's name and we will thank every single person that donated.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't care how long my Kung Pou chicken

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<v Speaker 1>has to wait downstairs. Okay, we lose Christy, Christy, she's back. Hi, Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>You're welcome to Calling All Beings. DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not good at this. I tried to chat

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, you know, I'm not gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, So if you want to chat, go to where

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<v Speaker 1>it says comments, and there's a private chat where you

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<v Speaker 1>can if you want to chat something to one of

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<v Speaker 1>us that you don't want the audience to see. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you hit comments, you can make comments just like

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<v Speaker 1>you're one of the listeners. Okay, so yeah, got options?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, so let me get a banner going

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<v Speaker 1>here and then we can get well, let's say hid everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to do that. So Trey and forty four

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<v Speaker 1>four Folk was the first one here. Hello, Hello, Jerry Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome foos and Blues, which means somebody that obviously likes

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<v Speaker 1>to play foosball. Hopefully you're not one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that beat me in Saudi Arabia a bunch of times

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<v Speaker 1>when I was playing back then, remember Chan when we's

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<v Speaker 1>got to Southwest Asia, there we go. Who else we

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<v Speaker 1>got to?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I didn't go anywhere. I didn't go anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Dental dental. Yeah, so that could be considered a deployment. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm skinny. There's Dennis Sweeney, the legend. We're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis at the Meal of Food that will be six pm,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight March at Townspa Pizza in Stunton. You can Glosstornton.

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<v Speaker 2>If you know what that is?

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<v Speaker 1>Well Glatstnton. All right, all right, the Scottish didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>out too badly. Apparently. Bea is here, Hi Bia, How are.

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<v Speaker 4>You I called Dennis Handsome? It's it's his pet.

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<v Speaker 1>Name as well you should and he is handsome? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what. He's got the two flags? And who's

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<v Speaker 1>oh the official attorney of calling all beings is here

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<v Speaker 1>at Valhalla Law, retired Massachusetts attorney. How are you lov uh? Okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, we're going to say how to new

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<v Speaker 1>YouTuber and moderator Kelly Stephie.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Kelly, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here, Sherry Dizzle, my fellow New Yorker who now

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<v Speaker 1>lives in South Carolina or something something like that. Lulu Belle,

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts legend.

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, and Amy Positive Pathways. We love your Positive Pathways.

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<v Speaker 5>You've got a great story in the great a name. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>James Lynch, how are you free?

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Reid? All day, mop uh and here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows this guy. Okay, yep, everybody say hello. And

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<v Speaker 1>she has a new YouTube as well, so go and

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<v Speaker 1>check out. Go and check out. Sdst and John Como

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<v Speaker 1>are two new YouTubers that are just killing it already.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't take them long. And oh Canada without rocket

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<v Speaker 1>Chick here from a cornad h Jesse sweaters. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>right time here ss Yeah, my alman, that's what's up

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<v Speaker 1>right here? And this go right here. She's like an

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<v Speaker 1>adjunct cabin.

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<v Speaker 3>On the screen. That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Rasmussen, that's my that's right, baby, She's awesome. Larry Legend

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<v Speaker 1>is here a number thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, my power base, my editing pro.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, somebody, somebody a while ago said that I

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<v Speaker 3>was Larry's or he was mine. I was his power base.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means. Yeah, like does he

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<v Speaker 3>get his energy from me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or like I don't know what that wonder twin powers.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means either his own person. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's we confirmed. He is a human being. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a German shepherd.

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<v Speaker 4>Here mass Yes, yeah, Lara is the best.

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<v Speaker 3>He's definitely a real human all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know Lara. Actually, he and I have

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<v Speaker 1>voice chatted, so I know he's real. All right. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we've got everybody, so we can get started with

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<v Speaker 1>the interview. Lean Bravos here my homegirl from Dean College, Beam, Venidos, Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and yeah and Kalm and Tiff what's up?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think we got everybody. If I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>mention you, let me know, we're going to get to

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<v Speaker 1>everybody tonight. Let me put this across the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the screen. I think I have a followed followers, Kim okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that will run the fundraiser, the PayPal and

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<v Speaker 1>the Venmo. So if you're a if you're a PayPal person,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is if you are a Venmo person, And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just alternate these throughout the show. But like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you on air. But right now we got to

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<v Speaker 1>get down to, as we say, bitess because we got

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<v Speaker 1>Christy Satrone my paison in the house. Are you Italian?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm say you Italian? Yeah, all right, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>You missed.

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<v Speaker 3>She's also Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both Jewish. Well I was a Jewish and Italian.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that man. What's going on? Muzzletown home girl. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the whole story in his itself, converting over all, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So if you would, is this your first

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<v Speaker 1>justice movement that you've been involved in? What what drew

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<v Speaker 1>you into the case? Maybe first as anti Karen Reid

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I lived close so and I work in Canton.

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<v Speaker 2>after it happened, right, I think I was still at

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<v Speaker 2>it just kind of I think it's just because I'm local,

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<v Speaker 2>of them, like some of the Alberts significant others. I

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<v Speaker 1>So that is what. But the initial thing with the glass,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really, you know, you wouldn't have thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make sense that when I was at work,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked at him and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>How would they be able to identify a glass? And

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<v Speaker 2>the way he looked at me, I'll never forget it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just it's it's it sat with me forever,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it came out.

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<v Speaker 6>A while later. I think that the Google search. Then

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<v Speaker 6>I was fully invested that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Google search is when you knew that something

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well of course, I mean as soon as they

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<v Speaker 1>Who would Yeah? And then say, oh I didn't I

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<v Speaker 1>think be a pointed out ahead. You have some stats

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<v Speaker 1>on when that came up as far as they discovered

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<v Speaker 1>that there u that was the only Google search she

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<v Speaker 1>ever deleted or that they have record of.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was like over four thousand, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>But the Google search actually came out in the news

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<v Speaker 3>around April fifteenth of twenty twenty three, and they actually

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<v Speaker 3>had it on the news. And then that's when Aiden

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<v Speaker 3>an accident. And then that search came up, and then

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<v Speaker 3>it just exploded after that.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think because.

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<v Speaker 2>We work with we do a bunch of work with

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<v Speaker 2>so it was it was a pretty big deal for

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<v Speaker 6>So and then, like you said, the Google search came

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<v Speaker 6>out in April, and it was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then then you went anti Christy, So I

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<v Speaker 3>what made you switch to going anti?

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<v Speaker 2>So because I lived so close to Knon, I obviously

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<v Speaker 2>have friends and family in Canton, And what was happening

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<v Speaker 2>was they were just upset because the town was sort

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<v Speaker 2>of turning into a circus, and I felt bad for them,

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<v Speaker 2>and I started speaking up for them. And at one

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<v Speaker 2>point one of the Albert significant others reached out to

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<v Speaker 2>me and thanked me for defending them and defending the

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<v Speaker 2>town or whatever, and I started talking to her, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I still and then somebody someone else what happened

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<v Speaker 2>with you? Remember that Carol woman, the patch.

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<v Speaker 6>The eye patch, there.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Carol Kelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so something happened with her. I forget what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember when the uh the ants had that secret

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<v Speaker 2>group they had, like a secret Facebook group. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So one of them reached out and said, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody's making fun of you, you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 2>where we're about.

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<v Speaker 6>And she was very civil.

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<v Speaker 2>So I reached out to her and I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk. And I started talking to her and I

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<v Speaker 2>talked to her for probably five or six months, not

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<v Speaker 2>knowing what her name was, and she knew.

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<v Speaker 6>I said, look, Karen didn't kill him, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we talked her, like I said, six months

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<v Speaker 2>and eventually I was like, okay, she killed him because

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<v Speaker 2>I was lied to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they were telling you. One. I was going through

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<v Speaker 3>our old messages today when we didn't really like each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're funny, and I sent you some of them,

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<v Speaker 3>but that lie that they told you, Like I noticed

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<v Speaker 3>one of the messages was always like she stopped at

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<v Speaker 3>the farm. How come you don't hear about the farm?

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<v Speaker 3>She stopped at the farm and got out? And I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, what is she talking about? And I think

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<v Speaker 3>my standard with palms would be like Okka or like

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<v Speaker 3>get help or something like that. It was always about help,

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<v Speaker 3>something about the farm. And I had never seen that

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<v Speaker 3>in any of the police reports anything, So I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what is she talking about? And that was one of

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<v Speaker 3>the lies that they had told you right, that she

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<v Speaker 3>that they had video of her getting out at the

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<v Speaker 3>farm and looking at her tail light.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep, a ton of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I knew probably seconds into the trial, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh shit, because I was told Karen wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>invited that night. Only John was allowed to park in

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<v Speaker 2>the garage, and he was very anal, which I think

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of went into a little bit. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that he was, you know, an over tener or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that what they were trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>with was he would have never let her.

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<v Speaker 6>Park in the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously, within seconds of the I think the first

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<v Speaker 2>gentleman who testified had said, no, she wasn't the garage.

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<v Speaker 2>John my room in the garage, Like, oh, riots too,

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<v Speaker 2>And then they had said, you know, God, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much you know she was sleeping with Higgins. She wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she got out at the farm. There was

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<v Speaker 2>DNA under the and I think some I think some

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<v Speaker 2>of them are still pushing this. There was DNA under

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<v Speaker 2>the under the truck, right, and then so and then

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<v Speaker 2>another one.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a part under the car that caused the

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<v Speaker 2>damage on his arm. Yeah, but that's on the opposite side.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so, or you know what I mean, or too

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<v Speaker 2>much in the middle. So it's not I mean, it

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<v Speaker 2>would be great, I guess for their story if it

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<v Speaker 2>was on the right side, but I don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you ever tell them during the trial that

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<v Speaker 3>you had switched sides that you didn't think she was

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<v Speaker 3>guilty anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because I didn't, because I think what happened was

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<v Speaker 2>I was so they were my friends, so I was

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<v Speaker 2>I would justify it, you know. I mean, I was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they just got it wrong, or maybe they just

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<v Speaker 2>were guessing.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I can't even describe what happened. I

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I don't I.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember you saying to me, like Jen, I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>if she's guilty or innocent. I have no stake in

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<v Speaker 3>the game, right, But it's just what's happening to Campton.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you were so concerned about, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what was upsetting me, because I do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have two friends that actually moved because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the type of town where people fight,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the area where people fight over fertilizer and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cars driving too fast. And then it just

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<v Speaker 2>became it really did become kind of a circus. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the people who worked, like myself, were put in

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<v Speaker 2>a position where everyone wants to talk about the case.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, I don't want to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 2>a stranger, about the case, because if you think something

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<v Speaker 2>opposite to me, it's it's it's not gonna go anywhere positive.

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<v Speaker 6>So it just, I don't know, I felt bad. I

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<v Speaker 6>felt bad for the people that live there.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt bad for John's kids that have to see,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people even if you no matter how you feel,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they whether they were brainwashed not brainwashed, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you might think, those children still think that Karen killed John.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just felt really bad that they lost two

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<v Speaker 2>sets of parents and then they would have to see that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was you know, it was more it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's in my backyard. It's great until it's

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<v Speaker 2>in your backyard, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to tell Obach here. We didn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to block you when you trolled Christy saying she's a

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<v Speaker 1>Russian spy. We don't. I don't know you, So anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who trolls any of our guests are immediately getting timed

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who it is, so I don't know them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just so you know, if you're in the chat,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're trolling one of our guests, if you're trolling

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<v Speaker 1>turtle Boy, if you're trolling another content creator, we're probably

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna time you out and then we'll probably block

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<v Speaker 1>you because we don't know. Because this is like a

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<v Speaker 1>don't be offended. We totally understand you were just playing,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't know because I don't know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't familiar with you anyway. Lulu Bell had a

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<v Speaker 1>question for Bia, go ahead and answer that bea how

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<v Speaker 1>I just donated?

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<v Speaker 3>What do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I did reply. So as far as getting in the drawing,

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<v Speaker 4>you just have to send a screenshot to Nick Rocco

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<v Speaker 4>on Facebook, and then in regards to you don't have

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<v Speaker 4>to do anything. We're gonna read them from the Defense Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what yet, BIA is going to be monitoring

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<v Speaker 1>the defense Fund, the Venmo et cetera, the PayPal.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I can't monitor her right in Venmo. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>because I'm you can't see what donations have been made

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<v Speaker 4>to her. So just on the defense one defense defense Fund.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because she would have to be friends with you

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<v Speaker 1>on Venmo. I think you to see that that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So the only thing we could really do

423
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<v Speaker 1>is the defense Fund. And if you do that, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go ahead and we're going to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>formally at the end of the interview. Great questions by

426
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<v Speaker 1>Jen Altman, by the way, and great answers and contextualization

427
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<v Speaker 1>by Christie's BIA. Do you want do you have something

428
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<v Speaker 1>that you'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to ask?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean I was just gonna mention in the trial,

431
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<v Speaker 4>it did come out that there was no DNA under

432
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<v Speaker 4>the vehicle, in the undercarriage, so that did come out.

433
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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, so, I mean, anybody that's it's crazy,

434
00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 4>anybody who watches trial, it's crazy to think that they

435
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<v Speaker 4>still think that she may be guilty.

436
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<v Speaker 2>It's weird that it's still being pushed. I mean, someone

437
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:47.480
<v Speaker 2>was just posting this a week ago saying, oh, no,

438
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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. It wasn't under that was a lie you

439
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 2>were told. And you know, you just didn't watch the

440
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<v Speaker 2>try because there are a bunch of them obviously didn't watch,

441
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<v Speaker 2>and then they're getting all the information from you know,

442
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<v Speaker 2>soundbites and you know, their favorite creators or whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, no, there was no DNA into the car.

444
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<v Speaker 6>A truck. It's a truck. So I don't know why

445
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<v Speaker 6>people are still saying that it's bizarre.

446
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<v Speaker 1>And I can't believe that people think it's so shocking

447
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<v Speaker 1>that you could take pieces of tail light and smash

448
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<v Speaker 1>it with a hammer and then rub it into a

449
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<v Speaker 1>sweater or a sweatshirt and go, oh look, I found

450
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<v Speaker 1>yards of tail light in this. Then I wonder how

451
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<v Speaker 1>that got there.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand how people think that side swiping somebody

453
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<v Speaker 3>is going to shatter a tail light into forty five pieces.

454
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<v Speaker 3>I mean somebody did. I forget who it was, but

455
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<v Speaker 3>somebody did it. They have like a frozen piece of

456
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<v Speaker 3>meat and they did a video where they like were

457
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<v Speaker 3>slamming it into a tail light and it would not break,

458
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<v Speaker 3>and it was a completely frozen like side of beef

459
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<v Speaker 3>and it would not.

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<v Speaker 4>And what about the fact that this happened on the

461
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<v Speaker 4>street and they were able to locate every single one.

462
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<v Speaker 4>You have toll truck drivers pushing the snow from the

463
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<v Speaker 4>street going upward. How would they have found every single

464
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<v Speaker 4>piece from the lawn and you know it didn't get

465
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<v Speaker 4>dragged across the whole damn street. That's very bizarre too.

466
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<v Speaker 3>And PERSTI had said there was a party. Want to

467
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<v Speaker 3>tell them about the party after John died?

468
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, after he died, so I want to say it

469
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<v Speaker 2>was I think it was just about Valentine's Day? So

470
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<v Speaker 2>John died, what the twenty ninth, h Yeah, okay, so

471
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<v Speaker 2>sixteen days later. And then I forget the exact date

472
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<v Speaker 2>that it was. I thought it.

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<v Speaker 6>Originally it was Berkowitz, but it wasn't. It was Proctor.

474
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<v Speaker 6>Was it Proctor Berkowitz?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, one of them drove by after the party, it

476
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<v Speaker 2>was a big party at that house, and found the

477
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<v Speaker 2>biggest piece of tail light, the.

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<v Speaker 6>Biggest piece to data.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I was like, wait a minute, how did

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<v Speaker 2>they have a party with thirty forty people and no

481
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<v Speaker 2>one saw the biggest piece of tailate.

482
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<v Speaker 3>Somebody must have parked right there where he was found.

483
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<v Speaker 3>How did they not see it?

484
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<v Speaker 2>And you can see And then now they're saying, well

485
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.039
<v Speaker 2>the weather there was more snow and there wasn't. I

486
00:27:13.119 --> 00:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>think Olivia had broken it down and there was no

487
00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>snow right, no boys, no excuse me on the fourteenth

488
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<v Speaker 2>than there was on the sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 6>So that didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've always I always thought that even if some

491
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<v Speaker 2>of her tailor did somehow break it the scene, I

492
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<v Speaker 2>to this day still believe someone added some more. I

493
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 2>think that's what the problem is. I think it was like, hey,

494
00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.839
<v Speaker 2>let's make this stick. That's what I think happened. So,

495
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<v Speaker 2>no matter what, I think that they've caked it evident.

496
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<v Speaker 2>That's my opinion. I don't know if it's true, but

497
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<v Speaker 2>I think they've allegedly allegedly.

498
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<v Speaker 1>The snark.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's always the trolls, you know, allegedly according the sources.

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<v Speaker 1>According to I don't think that polycarbonate. I mean, somebody

501
00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>over heres was saying that it was a Turtle Boy

502
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<v Speaker 1>listener that did the taillight test. I believe that was

503
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<v Speaker 1>David McIntyre, brilliantly done. And I don't think that polycarbonate.

504
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that would shatter hitting soft tissue like that.

505
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<v Speaker 1>It would not it would just would have. It would

506
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<v Speaker 1>have hurt him quite badly, but exactly not leave a

507
00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>bruise on his gee. I wonder how that happened. How

508
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>did that? It's incredible, But this person right here, maybe

509
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you could give them the abridged version. For Christine f

510
00:28:44.680 --> 00:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>who's unfamiliar with your story, maybe give her the abridged version.

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<v Speaker 2>I see you want. I'm trying to figure out. Oh

512
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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I was friends with them, and then what

513
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<v Speaker 2>happened was the reason. The main reason I went to

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<v Speaker 2>A I actually went to Jen first. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if a lot of people know that. I think you

516
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<v Speaker 2>had said it in the beginning. I went to Gen first,

517
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<v Speaker 2>and the main reason why was because.

518
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<v Speaker 6>They ate it.

519
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<v Speaker 3>Debbie Downer. Debbie Downer, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know Stephanie out she busted me, and I was like,

521
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<v Speaker 2>that's not me. So I was surprised that she outed me.

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<v Speaker 6>So, yeah, that was me.

523
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<v Speaker 2>So I had gone to Gen first because I knew

524
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>something wasn't right with Aiden. I was in a group

525
00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>chat with Lindsay and a bunch of them the December

526
00:29:32.079 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>that he got arrested, and once he was in jail,

527
00:29:36.519 --> 00:29:40.079
<v Speaker 2>stuff wasn't adding up, you know. I said, if you

528
00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>were really pregnant, why did you show him an old

529
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 2>ultrasound or? And then the story changed to she was raped,

530
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and then the story kept but you would.

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<v Speaker 6>Never answer, and no one could.

532
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't talk about it like we talk about everything else.

533
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<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense. So I knew, and and then

534
00:30:01.440 --> 00:30:03.000
<v Speaker 2>there was there was some more stuff. I can't remember right,

535
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>and it will come to me. There was some more stuff,

536
00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and I said, you know this, this isn't this isn't right.

537
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.279
<v Speaker 2>I need to someone needs to know. And you told

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<v Speaker 2>them you were going to go to Aiden a hundred times.

539
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<v Speaker 6>Oh that's the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate, my cat just stepped on the studio thing here,

541
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>that's a big cat.

542
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Harrah.

543
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>They had everybody harrah, and I gotta go.

544
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<v Speaker 6>Oh no, I know what it was.

545
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.759
<v Speaker 2>When I were gone over there, I had known that

546
00:30:31.319 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 2>Kate worked for Marty and Brian worked for Marty. Those

547
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>are two things I went there knowing I had never

548
00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:38.839
<v Speaker 2>said anything. When I was on free came read and

549
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.200
<v Speaker 2>I and I never would have. I would have taken

550
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<v Speaker 2>that to the grave with me. But then somebody went

551
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 2>to Aiden and outed Brian, and I got blamed for it,

552
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.440
<v Speaker 2>and they kept blaming me for it, and I said,

553
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>if discontinues, I'm going to go to Aiden and I'm going.

554
00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 6>To tell them the full story.

555
00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And the full story is Kate also works for Marty.

556
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 1>So Kate works for Marty as like a pi eta.

557
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 6>Right, he did?

558
00:31:05.559 --> 00:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>But didn't she like when all her legal stuff happened,

559
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 3>did he say this doesn't look good? He fired?

560
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:14.599
<v Speaker 2>When that went When that went all over Twitter that

561
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>she was terminated, everybody thought she was terminated from the

562
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>property management job that she allegedly had, and that's not true.

563
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 2>It was Marty who terminated her because she caught more

564
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.359
<v Speaker 2>charges and whatever else happened.

565
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.759
<v Speaker 6>But no, so she that's where she was fired from.

566
00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>So because I kept saying to him, I go, look,

567
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go to Aiden and tell and tell him stuff.

568
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell him the full story. He's gonna get

569
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>it all. He's gonna know where Brian, that Brian lives

570
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>in Norwood. He's gonna know you know that Brian works

571
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 2>for Marty. He's gonna know the Kate works there. He's

572
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would I hold back? Why would I

573
00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>only tell him a little bit?

574
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.119
<v Speaker 6>So it was shady.

575
00:31:49.680 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's how it started. And then I started talking

576
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:55.519
<v Speaker 2>to him and I went through my notes, I mean,

577
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.920
<v Speaker 2>excuse me my text. I was oh my god.

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00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:02.000
<v Speaker 6>They they said, this guy up up, he did. This

579
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 6>is crazy, it's awful, it's awful.

580
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:07.799
<v Speaker 4>Someone's asking who Marty is.

581
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>He's the he used he used to be Boston police officer.

582
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Now he's a private investigator in Norwood and Brian Albert

583
00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 2>works for him.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you very much, Laura. Great to have you

585
00:32:23.559 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 1>with us. Appreciate your exposure of the anti free car

586
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>read movement. Thank you Laura from the UK. Appreciate your homegirl.

587
00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.880
<v Speaker 1>We will donate this ten ten quid or ten pounds

588
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:40.759
<v Speaker 1>to cat and read. I want to get in our

589
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to get in our thing right here, so

590
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>be a go ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so let me just refresh. Do you want

592
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<v Speaker 4>to bring the defense fun up on your your end

593
00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:57.079
<v Speaker 4>so you can share it?

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00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I could, Yeah, yeah, as I do see

596
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 4>some from cab there's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a terrible idea, mate, don't let all right, we

598
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>get out of the studio here and pay to it.

599
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Pay there it is and let me I'll see where

600
00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>you're looking oh recent donationstil we go? Yes, okay, I

601
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>believe I've got it. Wow, people are people are making

602
00:33:31.440 --> 00:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>it happen for Karen Reid. I don't care whether they're

603
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it on behalf of Cab or not. Yeah, I

604
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 1>don't know how far give me, tell me how far

605
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 1>to go down, because I don't want to waste your time.

606
00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:44.039
<v Speaker 1>You can actually share it yourself, be I believe it

607
00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.119
<v Speaker 1>or not. If you've got your laptop, you can just

608
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>hit present and do it. So if you want to

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00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.079
<v Speaker 1>do that, I'm gonna I'm gonna click.

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<v Speaker 4>Off here, Okay, hold on, all right, all right, keep

611
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<v Speaker 4>going out.

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00:33:57.160 --> 00:34:00.359
<v Speaker 1>It'll lose the show if I'm doing that. But you

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00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>click present and then you just click the tab that

614
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:04.759
<v Speaker 1>you want to share. So that's how you would do that.

615
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Anybody on the show can share, by the way, if

616
00:34:08.320 --> 00:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>they had something Christy or Jen, etcetera. Yes, she's like,

617
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>I got this thing to work. We're not gonna we're

618
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<v Speaker 1>just leave it alone.

619
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:20.599
<v Speaker 2>I started playing with them too, and I'm like, you know,

620
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>I better not.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe Yeah. So essentially, though, in an answer to Kristen's questions,

622
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<v Speaker 1>because I don't I'm not sure how familiar she is

623
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<v Speaker 1>with the case. But Marty Kraft is former Boston copp

624
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>He supposedly is employing Brian Albert as a PI and

625
00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Michael Procta as a as a PI as well, so

626
00:34:42.880 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 1>he obviously is a dirt bag. And there is somebody

627
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>else here that went to a standout that I'm not

628
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>going to name these people because I don't want Maddie

629
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Kraft to be watching this and then go after them.

630
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<v Speaker 1>But let's say one of them is kind of an

631
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<v Speaker 1>elderly who's a free care and reader and when they

632
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:07.760
<v Speaker 1>were standing out near a bridge somewhere, they were parked

633
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<v Speaker 1>in kind of a cul de sac, I guess, and

634
00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the son of this woman saw somebody that was loosening lugnuts,

635
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>because there were four or five free careen readers who

636
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>had the lugnuts loosened on their car, and this elderly

637
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.519
<v Speaker 1>woman happened to have gone to the dealership and they said, hey,

638
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.159
<v Speaker 1>did you know, like you're missing a lug nut and

639
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.639
<v Speaker 1>these are loose and all that, and then they found

640
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.079
<v Speaker 1>out that several of them that were at that same

641
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.519
<v Speaker 1>standout had that happen. So that should give you an

642
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:42.519
<v Speaker 1>idea of how amazing a jackass that Marty Kraft is,

643
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and that is exactly the type of person who would

644
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.719
<v Speaker 1>employ Brian Albert and Mike Procter. So you can see,

645
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, a scum, no scum, and those are the

646
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>kinds of people that would that would be wonderful bedfellows.

647
00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:56.400
<v Speaker 2>There's the reason I don't.

648
00:35:56.519 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 6>I never would go to court.

649
00:35:58.280 --> 00:35:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Well.

650
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean I did go to one of the I

651
00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.320
<v Speaker 2>was actually the other food stamp five day. I just

652
00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:05.639
<v Speaker 2>got there late, thank god.

653
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 3>But I did.

654
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I never went because I knew that they were all

655
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 2>there taking plates and running them, so there was no

656
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:17.000
<v Speaker 2>way they probably still do.

657
00:36:20.079 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah no, I yeah no, I stay far away.

658
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say real quick. March eighth, Michelle Littlefield,

659
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>this was her idea to have a Turtle Boy defense

660
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>fund fundraiser. We're going to be doing the exact same

661
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.519
<v Speaker 1>thing for Turtle Boy. That blonde woman you see city

662
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 1>next to me is also going to be here. Meredith

663
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 1>is going to be here, and who knows who else

664
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:44.039
<v Speaker 1>is going to be here. But there will be other

665
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 1>people here. I'm sure that will pop in and we

666
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.079
<v Speaker 1>will try to raise some money for Turtle Boy. Very

667
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:54.159
<v Speaker 1>courageous young man, so take us in inside some of

668
00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.239
<v Speaker 1>these people, I'm going to make an assumption that you

669
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>know Jennifer McCabe or had met her.

670
00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>I've only met her like twice, and I have I mean,

671
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>people don't really like them when I say this, but

672
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.719
<v Speaker 2>I have nothing negative to say about her from my

673
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>meeting her at all.

674
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:09.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

675
00:37:11.320 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 2>She was fine. I mean, I mean, she wasn't the

676
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>nicest human being. I mean, she's I don't know, I

677
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.599
<v Speaker 2>mean just I don't want to call a stoic, but

678
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:23.519
<v Speaker 2>that's how she's described by a lot of people. So

679
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I guess we both that I met her at that

680
00:37:26.480 --> 00:37:31.360
<v Speaker 2>at a pool party at Kari Lama's briefly wow, yeah.

681
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:34.360
<v Speaker 2>And then at the pool party, Yeah, that's yeah. I

682
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>met her there.

683
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh. I didn't realize she had been there too.

684
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.559
<v Speaker 6>Jenna, were there, Jen? Matt?

685
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:45.679
<v Speaker 2>And was it Jen's sister? Was it Matt's sister one

686
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 2>of the sisters? Was there Matt's maybe I love?

687
00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 6>I think, Yeah, Yeah, she was fine.

688
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't speak to her much because I

689
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:58.519
<v Speaker 2>was I was sitting next to Lindsay and Kate, even

690
00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>though Lindsay seems to deny that, So I was listening

691
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>to Lindsay and Jen was more on the other side

692
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>of the outside.

693
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh I did hear that because she was in the

694
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:11.480
<v Speaker 3>pool playing with the kids. She likes kids a lot.

695
00:38:11.840 --> 00:38:14.119
<v Speaker 6>She was taking care of Lindsay's kids. I mean, I'll

696
00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:15.559
<v Speaker 6>give her that. She was taking care of the kids.

697
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:23.320
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, yeah, good. So I was just going to say,

698
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 1>there are people you know like that that are up here. Oh,

699
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.920
<v Speaker 1>here's somebody here says he's a high school bully equals

700
00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>gen Yeah, I got to meet somebody that went to

701
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Somebody from Canton called me that went to high school

702
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:41.119
<v Speaker 1>with her and gave me the four to one one

703
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:45.639
<v Speaker 1>on her why she would maybe be less likely to

704
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>find someone like Karen Reed as someone that you would

705
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>admire and that would be compelling. Like most of us

706
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>have a self made single woman, there are some women

707
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:02.000
<v Speaker 1>who don't admire people that are are single and super successful.

708
00:39:02.360 --> 00:39:04.480
<v Speaker 1>There kind of more would admire you if you're a

709
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:09.360
<v Speaker 1>family woman, as if there's a difference, Like they're both

710
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:12.440
<v Speaker 1>very valuable, right, I mean most people with common sense

711
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:18.239
<v Speaker 1>can see that. But uh, but yeah, as far as

712
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Jen goes. The thing that I find intriguing about her

713
00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Christie is that she can be this normal person. She

714
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 1>can go to the to a dog rescue and you know, volunteer.

715
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:31.239
<v Speaker 1>He can, like you said, take care of people's kids

716
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and just be totally normal soccer mom. But how and

717
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:38.800
<v Speaker 1>this is what I want. I'm looking for a certain

718
00:39:38.920 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 1>type of a psychologist, a criminologist, to be exact. Oh,

719
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing me come through somebody speakers, test test tests. Okay,

720
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking for somebody to come on the show and

721
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:57.039
<v Speaker 1>talk about this. How does she compartmentalize be trying to

722
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>get someone put away from murder and then and go

723
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to a pool party and just kind of have fun

724
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and have a pina colada and play with the kids.

725
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>How do you separate that when you know that you

726
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>google that, and she knows what happened here, she knows

727
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.199
<v Speaker 1>that this woman's innocent. How does she compartmentalize that in

728
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:17.599
<v Speaker 1>your mind?

729
00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>What do you.

730
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.760
<v Speaker 3>It's her family. She'll do anything to protect her family.

731
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:28.519
<v Speaker 1>Is that the justification? Jen?

732
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.639
<v Speaker 3>Is that? I think so? I think I think that

733
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:36.360
<v Speaker 3>she'll do anything to protect her her daughter, and her husband,

734
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.920
<v Speaker 3>and her sister's husband and her sister. I think they're

735
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:51.320
<v Speaker 3>all just so incestuously close that they'll do anything to

736
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:55.360
<v Speaker 3>protect and if one talks, they all go down and right.

737
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>No, I understand why they're keeping a secret. That is

738
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>self present is why they're keeping a secret. What I'm

739
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:03.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out is how do you live with

740
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself that, because that indicates sociopathy. I mean, we're you know,

741
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>we're playing pop psychologists here, but what do you what

742
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>do you attribute that? Jed?

743
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:18.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how anybody can do that. I mean,

744
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, I don't. I don't know.

745
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I have my own ideas about what I

746
00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:29.039
<v Speaker 3>think happened that night, and I've never said them, and

747
00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:33.760
<v Speaker 3>maybe after the trial is over, I will say it him. Mary,

748
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm Mary, but I I I don't, I don't. I

749
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.719
<v Speaker 3>don't know how you do that. You just put, you know,

750
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 3>pretend it didn't happen. I don't know. I can't understand

751
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.199
<v Speaker 3>it because we would never be like that. So it's

752
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:54.159
<v Speaker 3>hard to understand.

753
00:41:54.920 --> 00:42:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's that mindset. I mean, I just I like,

754
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 1>if Karen Reid were walking and you know, going to

755
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:07.360
<v Speaker 1>sentencing wearing an orange jumpsuit and then you're like, yeah,

756
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you gotta go to stop and shop and

757
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:14.079
<v Speaker 1>then take the kids to soccer like, I don't. I

758
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:18.880
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. I don't understand how I mean. Avon Leah

759
00:42:19.039 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Rising is saying it right here self preservation, But I

760
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>want to get to this right here. From Christine Christine

761
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a Canton ten. I don't know if you're familiar with her.

762
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was a soccer player number ten. I'm one

763
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:33.639
<v Speaker 1>of Tom's mods and I was on your show maybe

764
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>in December. Okay, cool? Oh, yes I remember you. Yes,

765
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.559
<v Speaker 1>of course you are. You were on that round table,

766
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the Canton roundtable. Jen used to bully me in high school.

767
00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.199
<v Speaker 1>She hates me so bad now. So yeah, that's what

768
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I heard about Jen, for the most part, from another

769
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>woman from Canton who saw me after a Sean McDonough

770
00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>episode and contacted me. And I will go further into

771
00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the story than that, but she convinced me that she knows,

772
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.079
<v Speaker 1>she knows Jennifer mccab and went to high school with her,

773
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:13.039
<v Speaker 1>among some of the other players in this case. So, yeah,

774
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>how do you.

775
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.639
<v Speaker 4>Refer to somebody that you've known for a long time

776
00:43:16.960 --> 00:43:19.400
<v Speaker 4>as there's a man passed out in the snow.

777
00:43:20.159 --> 00:43:21.519
<v Speaker 1>Well, did she know him a long time?

778
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:28.360
<v Speaker 3>At least eight or nine years? Because she Yeah, she

779
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 3>was friends with John's sister and they had kids the

780
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:35.719
<v Speaker 3>same age, and so then when John took custody of

781
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 3>the niece and nephew, she would help along with who

782
00:43:45.199 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 3>does she help with? Oh, Kerry Roberts and like take

783
00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.000
<v Speaker 3>the kids places and things and helped John out because

784
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.519
<v Speaker 3>he was like a single dat. So they knew each

785
00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 3>other for a good eight nine years.

786
00:43:57.039 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>So is Bailey. Bailey must be from Canton because she's

787
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.599
<v Speaker 1>saying have you seen them lately? They look very run down,

788
00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 1>as if their mentally conflicted consciousness of guilt. I mean,

789
00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't unless your as sociopath, I don't see how

790
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't be. But then again he's going and calling,

791
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, calling Brian Tully and and emailing Mike Morrissey

792
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and doing on the phone all the time. Again, I'm sorry.

793
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>She talked. I know she talks to Morrissey all the time,

794
00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>really or did.

795
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.079
<v Speaker 1>And would say? What what would she talk to him about?

796
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 6>I don't know.

797
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess they're just who knows me?

798
00:44:41.599 --> 00:44:43.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean, do you think that is.

799
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 3>There any other case where the state's witnesses talking to

800
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 3>the Norfolk County DA.

801
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:49.599
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was all I mean, you know what's

802
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 2>so funny because in the beginning was always like, do

803
00:44:51.840 --> 00:44:53.400
<v Speaker 2>you want me to ask Jen anything? Or do you

804
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 2>let me talk to Tully? And Jen and Telly is

805
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 2>always genteally gen Tully and I never really thought about

806
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.119
<v Speaker 2>it in the until afterwards. I was like, they talked

807
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to Tully a lot, and they talked to like everything

808
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:06.440
<v Speaker 2>had to go through Jen. It was always let me

809
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:07.039
<v Speaker 2>check with Jen.

810
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:09.639
<v Speaker 4>So I I a question.

811
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.320
<v Speaker 2>I had a ton of questions about Brian Higgins, and

812
00:45:13.360 --> 00:45:20.159
<v Speaker 2>I had a ton of questions about uh uh, oh, Jesus,

813
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:25.639
<v Speaker 2>what Bella there? The one that they said John's friend's

814
00:45:25.719 --> 00:45:28.639
<v Speaker 2>mom or whatever it was. But everything had to go

815
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:30.360
<v Speaker 2>through Jen, you know what I mean.

816
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So she so it's what Sherry's saying right here, then

817
00:45:34.679 --> 00:45:35.440
<v Speaker 1>do you want to read.

818
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 4>That bea I feel as though she believes herself to

819
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 4>be be a true alpha. That she was, she was

820
00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:46.199
<v Speaker 4>the only one capable of handling the situation. The truest

821
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.159
<v Speaker 4>narcissists out there, everyone beneath her.

822
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I agree with that. I don't I don't know

823
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:54.719
<v Speaker 6>if she's a narcissist.

824
00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm not gonna say that because she's probably

825
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna press charges on me because it's a D S

826
00:45:59.599 --> 00:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and five. I'm not gonna but I mean, I think

827
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:07.280
<v Speaker 2>I think she's got control issues for sure, but.

828
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Then she was manipulated a lot by Kate, I think, right,

829
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 3>I think so.

830
00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I think so?

831
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 3>Is it because Kate was kind of her the person

832
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.800
<v Speaker 3>that had the audience, the person that had a following.

833
00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe, you know, Kate says that they reached

834
00:46:23.239 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 2>out to her, and I don't believe that.

835
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.159
<v Speaker 3>I Oh, I don't believe that at all.

836
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 2>I think they met through Marty. I think that Brian

837
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:30.519
<v Speaker 2>was working there, Kate was working in and that's how

838
00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:30.880
<v Speaker 2>they met.

839
00:46:31.000 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 3>That's what I and I think Kate probably reached out to,

840
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:37.320
<v Speaker 3>like the O'Keefe since that I hate Aiden, I hate

841
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Turtle boy. I can't believe what he's doing to you.

842
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 3>How can I help you. I've got this platform, let

843
00:46:42.639 --> 00:46:43.079
<v Speaker 3>me help you.

844
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 2>She claims that they first reached out to She's like

845
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 2>not interested.

846
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:50.440
<v Speaker 6>So do they know who she was? That's what I'm saying.

847
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't make any sense.

848
00:46:51.800 --> 00:46:54.880
<v Speaker 2>I guess the story was is that Aiden had you know,

849
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 2>harassed them or whatever. They looked into him, and then

850
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>they found Kate you know what, and then it just

851
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 2>so happens that Kyton Marty worked together.

852
00:47:05.159 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know they could find five thousand people that

853
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:12.079
<v Speaker 3>Aiden has written about that they just happen to find Kate.

854
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's a tough sell for me. Yeah,

855
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 2>I agree, something something else is going on there, but

856
00:47:18.519 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 2>now and now it's you know, everyone keeps saying why

857
00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>does Jen keep peter around? Like, what's what's going on here?

858
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:25.840
<v Speaker 1>What?

859
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Why do they need to eat?

860
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

861
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.840
<v Speaker 6>I guess it's to help take down Hayden.

862
00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Do you think they're friends, like, like truly friends.

863
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I think that Kate and Okay, Yeah, I

864
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:48.159
<v Speaker 2>mean I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there has

865
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:50.119
<v Speaker 2>to be a level, some level of it. Yeah, yeah,

866
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess so. But I think their main

867
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:56.519
<v Speaker 2>function is to you know, take down Aiden for sure.

868
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 3>And someone like Jen would never be friends like hate, no, never, absolutely,

869
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:06.599
<v Speaker 3>she would walk by her and put her nose up

870
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:08.679
<v Speaker 3>at her. She would never be friends with anybody.

871
00:48:08.679 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 1>She would probably saying you need to lose weight or something.

872
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Like that, and she would just be like trailer trash.

873
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, she's trash, sexpony at trash.

874
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:18.880
<v Speaker 2>The whole reason they're matter Aiden, it's not because he

875
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.760
<v Speaker 2>intimidated them, is because he embarrassed them. Let's let's just

876
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.280
<v Speaker 2>call a spade of spade. So you think Kate wouldn't

877
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.719
<v Speaker 2>embarrass them going out? And let's be honest here, do

878
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 2>you think they're going to take Kate to the country club?

879
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 6>Crazy? Crazy talk?

880
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Now right insanity?

881
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 3>But didn't Jan invite Kate to her Chris Christmas party

882
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three?

883
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:41.559
<v Speaker 2>She might have, but that might have just kind of

884
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I think at that point they had they were there

885
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 2>was a point where no one was on their side.

886
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:50.559
<v Speaker 2>They had nobody, you know, family, So I think it

887
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:52.960
<v Speaker 2>was more like any support we can take, will take it.

888
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no questions.

889
00:48:55.639 --> 00:48:59.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think that that's what happened. But now,

890
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 2>from what I understand it, one of Kate's you know

891
00:49:03.880 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 2>that Kate's people is helping them record Aiden's stuff.

892
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:12.280
<v Speaker 3>I guess the lives.

893
00:49:12.719 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't know why she can't do it? Does

894
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:16.159
<v Speaker 6>you work? Why can't you do it?

895
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:16.559
<v Speaker 3>None of that.

896
00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:20.360
<v Speaker 6>Exactly? Why do you know that more.

897
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Working?

898
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:23.599
<v Speaker 3>Is you know.

899
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 1>A lot of You're right, a lot of people around

900
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 1>don't work. Let me let me read this from Christina

901
00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:33.039
<v Speaker 1>a F Canton and we'll do use Bob Marley for

902
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:40.119
<v Speaker 1>this one. I don't play soccer man. You know me man,

903
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm friends with Megan, so.

904
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:45.519
<v Speaker 3>Do you know her? I do?

905
00:49:46.039 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So I mean I had to get

906
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 1>through that accent. It's the first time I know Kristin.

907
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:54.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh jeez, I'm so dumb. Yes, who christ is?

908
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? She was on The Showman on the cot.

909
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:02.519
<v Speaker 3>Kristin is the one that Jill Daniels said like that

910
00:50:02.760 --> 00:50:06.800
<v Speaker 3>boom too, you know, when she confronted Aidan outside of

911
00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.760
<v Speaker 3>D and D Pizza. Kristen was there. I like, Kristin

912
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 3>was nice. Yeah, yeah, Jill said something very nasty and

913
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 3>then was.

914
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Like, boom, that was Kristen.

915
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:20.119
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

916
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she was on the.

917
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.719
<v Speaker 3>And there was somebody like Christy. When I was going

918
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.119
<v Speaker 3>through our messages, somebody forgot who it was. Her name

919
00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 3>was Karen Karen Kelly. Karen claimed that, yeah, that somebody

920
00:50:39.519 --> 00:50:43.920
<v Speaker 3>like threw red paint on her car and broke her windshield,

921
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 3>and Christy wrote me a message. She's like your people Like,

922
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.719
<v Speaker 3>what do you mean my people? Many people?

923
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:54.960
<v Speaker 6>I just Jen remember your.

924
00:50:57.519 --> 00:51:00.559
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so they would tell Christy that I was

925
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 3>like ran everything Turtle Boy, and I.

926
00:51:03.079 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 2>Was next, You're still going to jail at some point.

927
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.880
<v Speaker 3>At some point, yeah, at some point, I'm everyone.

928
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Is now I'm going to jail. I'm getting arrested. We're

929
00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>all getting arrested. I'm getting arrested for intimidating Paul's wife.

930
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I've never spoken to her in my life.

931
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.360
<v Speaker 3>They think that writing things online about your opinion is

932
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.599
<v Speaker 3>somebody is intimidation, but nobody is like holding them in

933
00:51:33.679 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 3>front of the screen and holding their eyes open and saying,

934
00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.280
<v Speaker 3>read this, read this long.

935
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I put that up on the screen. But we

936
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 1>can we can hold off on this for a second.

937
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I want to get Michelle Littlefield's comment in here regarding

938
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>those those messages from Lindsey, Brian Tolly, who else was

939
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 1>involved in that? Michelle, Oh, let me know if you

940
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:05.800
<v Speaker 1>can clarify that for us. But Jen McKay, there you go.

941
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:10.199
<v Speaker 3>She's like, it was her message to Michael Morrissey saying,

942
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I'm what was the word. She horrified

943
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.719
<v Speaker 3>that Kris didn't get it the worst training order.

944
00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 1>It's such a dirtbag. And this resulted in the quote

945
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>disciplinary action that happened to Michelle Littlefield, whereby she's no

946
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:31.920
<v Speaker 1>longer working at the court house, a job at which

947
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 1>she loved. Yes, but Michelle, a lot of you don't know.

948
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Jen knows. She was a p

949
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 1>I for thirty years, so she has a background, and

950
00:52:43.400 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 1>she also has an attorney that many of us know

951
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.519
<v Speaker 1>or is looking at her case. And so we'll leave

952
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it at that.

953
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:55.119
<v Speaker 3>But uh, and what I think is interesting about that

954
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 3>is that Kate came out with that, you know, one

955
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 3>tweet and was like Michelle said Michelle's name, and nobody knew,

956
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, that this had happened. So obviously there was

957
00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:11.280
<v Speaker 3>either Michael Morrissey telling Jen, who's telling Kate, they're telling Tully,

958
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:14.920
<v Speaker 3>who's telling Kate? Because Kate just happened to know that

959
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:17.960
<v Speaker 3>a woman named Michelle Littlefield at the Stoton District Court

960
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:24.880
<v Speaker 3>was fired and walked out. Yeah. I just think that's

961
00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 3>so weird that our law enforcement and our district attorneys

962
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>will not mine but Norfolk County's district attorney is just

963
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.760
<v Speaker 3>talking to random people who don't have and Kate has

964
00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with the case. And Brian Tully, she's

965
00:53:39.239 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 3>got his phone number, and they're you know, talking about

966
00:53:42.559 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 3>how to set Aiden up and how to you know,

967
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.039
<v Speaker 3>make Lindsay a witness and put a fakes of peanut

968
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:49.360
<v Speaker 3>like that.

969
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.239
<v Speaker 2>Shit's yeah, it's so bizarre.

970
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:57.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't even have any words. It's crazy.

971
00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.880
<v Speaker 2>And they think you might have seen the screenshots last year,

972
00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:06.880
<v Speaker 2>but they like actively like suck out Lindsay. I mean

973
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:10.719
<v Speaker 2>that picture of her at the party, like they were

974
00:54:10.760 --> 00:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>asked me, do you know who she is?

975
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.679
<v Speaker 6>So they had a plan to find Lindsay and immediately be.

976
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 3>Waiting, oh, the the comedy show.

977
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when she came.

978
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where I met her.

979
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 2>It's literally anyone who can take down anyone who hates

980
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Aidan don't they'll they want on their teeth, you know, if.

981
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 3>You don't go after him. That's why Lauren Murray got

982
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:37.360
<v Speaker 3>so much shit because she wasn't going to have any

983
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:39.280
<v Speaker 3>part of it. So if you're not going to have

984
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:43.519
<v Speaker 3>part of it, then we're going to destroy your life.

985
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:50.239
<v Speaker 3>And Kate was terrible to Lauren for two years, absolutely terrible.

986
00:54:50.639 --> 00:54:51.440
<v Speaker 3>And that was that was me.

987
00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:53.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not, I'm not doing this. I'm not.

988
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:55.400
<v Speaker 6>I'm not doing ai.

989
00:54:55.519 --> 00:54:57.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not because he's he didn't do anything I'm not

990
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 2>no haye aiden all you want up, but we're not

991
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>going to send him to jail for something he didn't do,

992
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and we're not going to drag. You might not like

993
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 2>his words, you might not like what he says. You know,

994
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't think everyone agrees with everything he says, and

995
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:12.239
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. But you don't punish someone because you don't

996
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>like the words are using.

997
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:15.000
<v Speaker 6>That's ridiculous, it's insane.

998
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:18.760
<v Speaker 1>No, he might disagree with words that I say and

999
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:23.039
<v Speaker 1>be like, yo, yeah, what you said was really stupid,

1000
00:55:23.079 --> 00:55:24.599
<v Speaker 1>and I might say, you know what, maybe it was.

1001
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.239
<v Speaker 1>So we don't all deserve to be you know, we

1002
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>all can you know, find fault in what something else

1003
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>did or said, and then as that person, I can

1004
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:37.119
<v Speaker 1>course correct, Turtleboy could course correct, Christie could course correct,

1005
00:55:37.119 --> 00:55:39.079
<v Speaker 1>and go, okay, I can you know, I can change

1006
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 1>maybe I did something that was regrettable. Yeah, you don't

1007
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:45.039
<v Speaker 1>send somebody to prison. The guy's done honest, hard work.

1008
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 1>He's extremely courageous. He's put himself physically in harm's way

1009
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and in danger to do this, and that is very

1010
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 1>valorous in my mind, and so.

1011
00:55:58.360 --> 00:56:02.679
<v Speaker 3>He's a good guy. Is like, you may not like

1012
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 3>what he does. But he's an amazing father for one,

1013
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 3>like a really good dad. And you know he'll he

1014
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:15.239
<v Speaker 3>hates when girls cry, like if you if you cry,

1015
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:23.559
<v Speaker 3>he'll give you anything. And he's just a nice guy. Yeah,

1016
00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 3>and maybe you don't agree with how he you know,

1017
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:29.519
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I haven't always agreed with him. And like

1018
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:30.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll send him a text to be like do you

1019
00:56:31.079 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 3>really think and he's like, fuck off, Jen, Yes, Like okay,

1020
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.679
<v Speaker 3>you know whatever, it's not it's not a big deal.

1021
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can all disagree. The legend is in the

1022
00:56:44.039 --> 00:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>chat Olivia Nile, Olivia and she wants to to Christie. Yeah,

1023
00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>she was on our legal round table. The amount of

1024
00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:57.079
<v Speaker 1>information in this young lady's head is just dizzy brilliant.

1025
00:56:57.320 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 1>She's amazing.

1026
00:56:58.440 --> 00:56:59.199
<v Speaker 3>He's so smart.

1027
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Let me just get this up on screen real quick.

1028
00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>So I was able to bring up that page. This

1029
00:57:06.960 --> 00:57:10.519
<v Speaker 1>is the fundraiser if you would please for Karen's birthday donate.

1030
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:14.599
<v Speaker 1>Sherry Dizzle, our moderator, said that they're already over seven

1031
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand. But I don't think that's the reason to stop.

1032
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>When you see that, you know, actually be a you

1033
00:57:23.079 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 1>were talking about this the other day, Hey, let's come

1034
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:28.880
<v Speaker 1>back and you know, I'll take lunch break and then

1035
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.039
<v Speaker 1>we can continue these motions next week. So Karen, you

1036
00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.639
<v Speaker 1>can pay for your defense team to fly back out. Hey,

1037
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>can you get the the red Eye, Alan Jackson. I mean,

1038
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so great, it's so wonderful for the prosecution to

1039
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.599
<v Speaker 1>have Judge Bev as part of their team, the persecution team.

1040
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.760
<v Speaker 1>She's so effective as an attorney. And I hear I

1041
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 1>am thinking she's supposed to be the ultimate jury stuff there.

1042
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.280
<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny about Bev is that, you know,

1043
00:57:56.400 --> 00:58:02.119
<v Speaker 3>in the whole Jerry her thing came up. You know,

1044
00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at some old stuff from Beverly when

1045
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:08.719
<v Speaker 3>she was a defense attorney and there was the case

1046
00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:12.400
<v Speaker 3>she had where the guy was found guilty and her

1047
00:58:12.559 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 3>main complaint on appeal was that the jury instructions were

1048
00:58:16.760 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 3>not clear.

1049
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.199
<v Speaker 1>Oh my, are you kidding?

1050
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll find the case. Yeah, I'll find the case.

1051
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:26.199
<v Speaker 6>Wow, she said.

1052
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:29.880
<v Speaker 3>And then she's you know, on the on the state

1053
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 3>on the bench and complaining that a defense attorney finds

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00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:40.760
<v Speaker 3>the jury instructions not clear, Like you've been there, you know, like,

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00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 3>why why would you fight that? Make it as clear

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00:58:44.039 --> 00:58:44.719
<v Speaker 3>as possible?

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00:58:46.079 --> 00:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Well, she doesn't try to hide what she's trying to do.

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00:58:48.960 --> 00:58:53.199
<v Speaker 1>That's for sure. There's no question that she's not trying

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00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:53.679
<v Speaker 1>to hide it.

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00:58:54.519 --> 00:58:57.880
<v Speaker 7>Because they feel so comfortable in their skin, they feel

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00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 7>so comfortable with com completely ignoring ethics, completely violating any

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00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 7>code of ethics that they would have.

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00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Learned in law school or any government official, whether that's

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00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>at the at the town level or county level, or

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00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:18.400
<v Speaker 1>state level or federal level. So they don't care anything

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00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:21.360
<v Speaker 1>about ethics and the appearance of anything. And it's just

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00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:25.599
<v Speaker 3>If she doesn't. I think it's simply because I watched

1069
00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 3>her in that case with that woman from Penny McGee,

1070
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.639
<v Speaker 3>Penny McGee, and she was so kind to her and

1071
00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.920
<v Speaker 3>she was so nice. And then the way that she

1072
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:40.440
<v Speaker 3>talks to Karen's defense attorneys, she's just so mean. And

1073
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:44.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching the Donna Adelson case today. I was talking

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00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 3>to Christy about this, and I'm watching that judge and

1075
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 3>he's like the fairest, you know, not nice but down

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00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:53.679
<v Speaker 3>to business.

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00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 2>And she just.

1078
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.559
<v Speaker 3>How anybody in her life hasn't said to her, you

1079
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.599
<v Speaker 3>got to stop sighing, you gotta stop breathing like that.

1080
01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.760
<v Speaker 3>It's you know, you're it appears as if you have

1081
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:09.480
<v Speaker 3>you're frustrated and you're the judge.

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01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:13.159
<v Speaker 4>You can't like all the time, and why do you

1083
01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 4>need so many breaks? Like what is up with this?

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01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:18.599
<v Speaker 4>She did an hour that like, then she had to

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01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:19.920
<v Speaker 4>take a break, and then she had to take a

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01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 4>lunch break. I'm like, wow, she can.

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01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Get a little sandwich and let's get back.

1088
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:28.960
<v Speaker 4>Or is she having to check in with people? Like

1089
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:29.960
<v Speaker 4>what what's the deal?

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01:00:31.480 --> 01:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>CSI ratchet division. I'm sorry.

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01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.119
<v Speaker 6>The long day killed me. She was it was what

1092
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 6>was just four or five hours? She's like, it's been

1093
01:00:38.920 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 6>a tough day.

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01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, oh my god, long day.

1095
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Speaker 3>And that trial should never have been ten weeks. I

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01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 3>mean that should have been like a four or five

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01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:51.239
<v Speaker 3>week trial done.

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01:00:52.519 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 1>My point though, to you, Jen, though, is that it

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01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if she was comt she was completely impartial

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01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:03.599
<v Speaker 1>and justice blind and another trial I don't it doesn't

1101
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.559
<v Speaker 1>matter because you can't say, oh, well, I was really

1102
01:01:06.679 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 1>nice to this guy, but this guy over here is

1103
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 1>just beating the head with a baseball bat because he

1104
01:01:11.639 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 1>cut me off in traffic. It's not about if she's

1105
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.400
<v Speaker 1>done it right. You have to do it right every time.

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01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:18.559
<v Speaker 3>You have to be impartial.

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01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:22.440
<v Speaker 1>So so that's what I'm saying, she's not capable of

1108
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.719
<v Speaker 1>being impartial because you have to do it every single time.

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01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 1>And if you're making it this obvious, what does that

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01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:29.480
<v Speaker 1>tell us?

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01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1112
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:32.840
<v Speaker 1>What does that tell us?

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01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't like she's helping right?

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01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Good? Yeah?

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01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:41.039
<v Speaker 3>Please, I don't like defense I'm helping them. I mean,

1116
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:41.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm helping the state.

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01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the way this woman looks. I don't

1118
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like that look on her face. I don't like her

1119
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood attorney who's actually from Texas. Let's not get let

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01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:56.599
<v Speaker 1>facts get in the way here. Yeah, what what are

1121
01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 1>we supposed to do with that? As people of the public,

1122
01:01:58.639 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 1>public trust?

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01:02:01.719 --> 01:02:04.280
<v Speaker 3>And as a woman, you looking at somebody like lies

1124
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 3>little if you're judge, female judge of the bench, you

1125
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 3>should be proud of her. You should be like, yeah,

1126
01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, do you get more? Right? No? Like I

1127
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:22.280
<v Speaker 3>think that she should be encouraging her not I don't know.

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01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Yet. No, you should be running that kind of babe.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much, Laura, And we will be donating

1130
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:33.199
<v Speaker 1>this to Karen read tonight. So if you decided not

1131
01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to go on the the Karen Reid page, that's no problem.

1132
01:02:37.800 --> 01:02:40.679
<v Speaker 1>We will we will donate this to her and anything

1133
01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:43.039
<v Speaker 1>else that you guys did. Brit thank you for the

1134
01:02:43.760 --> 01:02:45.639
<v Speaker 1>h the two bocks girlfriend, and have a good night.

1135
01:02:45.639 --> 01:02:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I know you've got to go back to work.

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01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Fortunately I kept a lot of receipt How you like that,

1138
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:58.039
<v Speaker 1>Marcy Meatball ass? Oh good, there you go. Sorry, I

1139
01:02:58.119 --> 01:02:59.079
<v Speaker 1>had to edit myself.

1140
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:03.119
<v Speaker 3>That'll be interesting when when she moves forward with that.

1141
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, is that Lauren Murray?

1142
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:10.119
<v Speaker 3>No?

1143
01:03:11.239 --> 01:03:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jen, right, wasn't it Her probation was dropped or something, right?

1144
01:03:16.920 --> 01:03:20.760
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so she was on probation for violating Lauren's

1145
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:25.079
<v Speaker 3>harassment order and she had to do community service and

1146
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.119
<v Speaker 3>she hadn't done it, so they extended her probation for

1147
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.800
<v Speaker 3>another three months and then I think, but she violated

1148
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:34.960
<v Speaker 3>probation many times. It wasn't just you know, she violated

1149
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:39.320
<v Speaker 3>probation by getting another charge of witness intimidation through Aiden.

1150
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:43.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, she should have been revoked. And I just

1151
01:03:43.199 --> 01:03:46.119
<v Speaker 3>think people made a lot of phone calls. I think

1152
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Tolly made phone calls and because west Roxbury, Suffolk County,

1153
01:03:51.079 --> 01:03:53.199
<v Speaker 3>so that should have nothing to do.

1154
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:59.079
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, but all these people are I bet more.

1155
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean he contacted a judge that did not give

1156
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Chris Albert the restraining order against Aiden and said, hey,

1157
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.000
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing here? I mean people are gonna lose. Dude.

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01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You can't do that.

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01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Man, he's a judge, just like just like you can't

1160
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.559
<v Speaker 1>have somebody one of these people saying this to beb

1161
01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 1>even though she's one hundred percent guilty. This guy was

1162
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.440
<v Speaker 1>honest and said, I don't know this guy, Turtle boy.

1163
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't have anything against him. I don't see they

1164
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have enough evidence for me to issue a restraining order. Right,

1165
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.639
<v Speaker 1>that was honest. And then the DA says, no, we

1166
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>want you to be dishonor we want you to be biased.

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01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm going to package it in this kind

1168
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of sexy language, you know, using the law and public trust,

1169
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:49.000
<v Speaker 1>but really we want you to be biased. So why

1170
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:51.159
<v Speaker 1>are you not falling in line? O'Malley?

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01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:55.440
<v Speaker 3>And then they came back with Aiden's case and said,

1172
01:04:55.800 --> 01:05:02.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, we Aiden thought that was like the the

1173
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:04.760
<v Speaker 3>thing that oh they had already gotten gone through his phone.

1174
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.079
<v Speaker 3>And then when you go back, they went through his

1175
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.239
<v Speaker 3>phone the day that they got it, and then and

1176
01:05:11.320 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 3>then they had to stop. They already had everything.

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01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Man, I've said it on the show a million times.

1178
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 1>I am the eternal optimist. I believe the best in everybody.

1179
01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:27.800
<v Speaker 1>It is only this case that I don't believe anything

1180
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:32.559
<v Speaker 1>they tell me. Everything I assume is a lie, everything

1181
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.360
<v Speaker 1>from We're only paying Hank Brennan seventy five thousand dollars

1182
01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:39.039
<v Speaker 1>from now until June. No matter what they tell me,

1183
01:05:39.199 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a lie, and they and every time

1184
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:45.480
<v Speaker 1>they prove me right. Look a lot. I look one

1185
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred points smarter than I really am if we were

1186
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.320
<v Speaker 1>to do an intelligence desk only because they always lie,

1187
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:53.599
<v Speaker 1>so you just have to pick lie and then you're

1188
01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna be right. I wish I could make money on this.

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01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:02.639
<v Speaker 3>I have a question for Christy we can. So was

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01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:07.159
<v Speaker 3>there like do they tell people like kind of what

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01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.840
<v Speaker 3>to say on Twitter, Like, Hey, we're going to focus

1192
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:12.840
<v Speaker 3>on this or this is what we're gonna say, kind

1193
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.800
<v Speaker 3>of push this narrative, push that narrative. Was that something

1194
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:20.079
<v Speaker 3>like in your all your thousands of text messages that

1195
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 3>you had to go.

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01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Right kind of not not really.

1197
01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:28.519
<v Speaker 6>Not really like that, but.

1198
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.760
<v Speaker 2>They would give something to share, you know, like the

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01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:35.559
<v Speaker 2>Aiden's car for example.

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01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:36.800
<v Speaker 6>Does that make sense?

1201
01:06:37.559 --> 01:06:37.719
<v Speaker 1>You know?

1202
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:39.960
<v Speaker 6>They'd send me, you know, send us a picture of that, or.

1203
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:45.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, tell us when to write letters, stuff like that,

1204
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:49.599
<v Speaker 2>but not necessarily posting. I know, for a bit they

1205
01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:52.719
<v Speaker 2>got upset with Grant what Grant was posting, didn't want

1206
01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 2>certain things.

1207
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 6>They did try to control what we said a little bit,

1208
01:06:58.480 --> 01:06:58.800
<v Speaker 6>but not.

1209
01:07:00.880 --> 01:07:04.079
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that bad, but you know, they're definitely frowned

1210
01:07:04.159 --> 01:07:09.400
<v Speaker 2>upon certain things. I guess the best answer val.

1211
01:07:09.360 --> 01:07:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Hell Law wanted to respond to what we asked earlier

1212
01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:17.800
<v Speaker 1>when we were sort of hypothesizing about this nutcase. Jennifer

1213
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.559
<v Speaker 1>McKay got and read that bea please.

1214
01:07:22.199 --> 01:07:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Sure, in Jen's mind, Karen Read is responsible for John's

1215
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:31.920
<v Speaker 4>death text with Higgins fighting, et cetera, regardless of who

1216
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:36.719
<v Speaker 4>factually killed him. Her lies are just her lies are justified.

1217
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:41.199
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'd like to get everybody's response. That's starting with Beatrice, Please.

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01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Lo bea I know, I know, sorry iding it. I'm like,

1219
01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:52.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, I faced out.

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01:07:56.199 --> 01:07:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I know.

1221
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:01.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think I think Karen was the escapegoat.

1222
01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 4>She was not part of the family, She had no

1223
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 4>connections to anybody in that house, and I just think

1224
01:08:07.920 --> 01:08:11.400
<v Speaker 4>that she was an easy target and she happened I mean,

1225
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:16.079
<v Speaker 4>the timing for them couldn't have been better. That Karen

1226
01:08:16.199 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 4>was frantically calling around to try to find where John was,

1227
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.119
<v Speaker 4>and then you know, everything just fell into place. She

1228
01:08:24.239 --> 01:08:26.880
<v Speaker 4>smashes into the back of his car and a you

1229
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 4>know rush to get out, and I think Jen saw

1230
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.119
<v Speaker 4>the opportunity and poor Karen was the escapegoat.

1231
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about this, Christy? What's your take

1232
01:08:37.640 --> 01:08:39.439
<v Speaker 1>on your response to vows?

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01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:45.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that makes sense to me because a lot of they,

1234
01:08:45.359 --> 01:08:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, they they've definitely villainized her for sure, and

1235
01:08:50.039 --> 01:08:52.479
<v Speaker 2>they make things that aren't a big deal a big deal.

1236
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:55.840
<v Speaker 6>You know, her smiling, I mean, do I think she

1237
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:57.000
<v Speaker 6>should be smiling? Court?

1238
01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not, But I mean that doesn't make her a

1239
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:02.359
<v Speaker 2>kill her. It doesn't make her I don't know, she

1240
01:09:02.399 --> 01:09:05.279
<v Speaker 2>could be a nervous, a nervous thing. I don't know.

1241
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 2>But I definitely think that they have justified, you know,

1242
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:17.000
<v Speaker 2>villainizing her because they think she's just some kind of psychopath.

1243
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 6>And I think if that makes sense. It's hard to say.

1244
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the textas Higgins and I don't even know,

1245
01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it was just flirtatious stuff, So maybe I don't know,

1246
01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:31.319
<v Speaker 2>that's a tough question. I don't know.

1247
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:32.560
<v Speaker 6>I don't know how to answer that.

1248
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Really, I can't get inside Jen's head because I've really

1249
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.680
<v Speaker 2>only met her once, and it's hard to say. She

1250
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:43.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't say much, but I know she controls things, and

1251
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.560
<v Speaker 2>I know she can be a manipulative person.

1252
01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:48.359
<v Speaker 6>So I don't know. I don't know.

1253
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I want to just respond to one aspect of what

1254
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you said before I passed it over to hopefully somebody

1255
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:57.039
<v Speaker 1>who's going to co host with us again. I'm calling

1256
01:09:57.119 --> 01:10:01.199
<v Speaker 1>all beings named Jennalton because she's a an amazing job tonight.

1257
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.000
<v Speaker 1>But I want to say for everybody out there, and

1258
01:10:04.079 --> 01:10:09.239
<v Speaker 1>this is not germane only to this situation in terms

1259
01:10:09.279 --> 01:10:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of the stress aspect, nobody knows how they're going to

1260
01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 1>act in a hyper stressful situation until they've been in

1261
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that situation and are able to self reflect on it.

1262
01:10:21.920 --> 01:10:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Whether that's the person your first time in combat. You've

1263
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:27.600
<v Speaker 1>heard rangers talk about a Blackhawk down. Oh my god,

1264
01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:29.840
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, now these these bullets are whizzing

1265
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:31.840
<v Speaker 1>by my head and now it's real, like we're we

1266
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:34.439
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be in combat, Now we're really in combat,

1267
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're really having to fight. So a lot of

1268
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.119
<v Speaker 1>those guys found themselves that day as a combatant. But

1269
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.680
<v Speaker 1>this could be any different any kind of endeavor, whether

1270
01:10:43.800 --> 01:10:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that be fighting, there's many other, many other things that

1271
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:50.359
<v Speaker 1>are stressful, uh, different sports. You know, people think, oh,

1272
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I want to be a rock climber like Alex Hunold

1273
01:10:52.520 --> 01:10:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and they get up on the wall and they freeze

1274
01:10:54.600 --> 01:10:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, hold the ballet line, I'm coming down.

1275
01:10:57.079 --> 01:11:01.439
<v Speaker 1>It could be anything. So nobody knows how they're they're

1276
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:04.199
<v Speaker 1>going to respond. So I just I just want to

1277
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:06.680
<v Speaker 1>say that you can think, you know, Hagen to respond,

1278
01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.640
<v Speaker 1>but you really don't know. Jen, What's what what's your

1279
01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:10.640
<v Speaker 1>take on this right here?

1280
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:16.960
<v Speaker 3>So I think they they think she's owns responsibility because

1281
01:11:17.000 --> 01:11:19.479
<v Speaker 3>she should have just taken a plate. She should have

1282
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 3>just taken a plea of like involuntary manslaughter. She probably

1283
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.119
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have been gone to prison, maybe she would have

1284
01:11:26.199 --> 01:11:29.640
<v Speaker 3>gone for a couple months, and that if she had

1285
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.319
<v Speaker 3>just taken the plea, it would have been done and

1286
01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:37.319
<v Speaker 3>over with. And because she didn't, and she you know,

1287
01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:40.720
<v Speaker 3>fought for her life, she's responsible. I don't know so

1288
01:11:40.880 --> 01:11:43.159
<v Speaker 3>much that the text with Higgins have much to do

1289
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:48.039
<v Speaker 3>with it, and the fighting because I don't really think anybody,

1290
01:11:48.159 --> 01:11:51.319
<v Speaker 3>any of them were so close in John and Karen's

1291
01:11:51.319 --> 01:11:55.960
<v Speaker 3>relationship that they would know if they were fighting. I

1292
01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:59.239
<v Speaker 3>think it's because they're mad that she's that she's fighting,

1293
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:01.439
<v Speaker 3>that she's said I didn't do this, and that it

1294
01:12:01.439 --> 01:12:03.000
<v Speaker 3>would have been so easy. I mean, it could have

1295
01:12:03.039 --> 01:12:05.840
<v Speaker 3>been six months down the road and okay, I'm gonna

1296
01:12:06.000 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 3>hit him by accident. I'll just take the plea for

1297
01:12:08.199 --> 01:12:12.800
<v Speaker 3>involuntary man, no jail time, five years probation, something like that,

1298
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:14.199
<v Speaker 3>and it would have been over that. I think they're

1299
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:15.279
<v Speaker 3>mad that she didn't do that.

1300
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Actually, I can I can add to that because a

1301
01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:22.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred times it was always always said, I can forgive

1302
01:12:22.119 --> 01:12:24.680
<v Speaker 2>her for what she did that night it was an

1303
01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.159
<v Speaker 2>accent or whatever, but it's what she did afterwards that

1304
01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:32.079
<v Speaker 2>we can't get past. They're more pissed off about what

1305
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:37.079
<v Speaker 2>happened about all of this. You know, they really believe

1306
01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:42.479
<v Speaker 2>that they're they really think they're victims and all it's crazy,

1307
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, their their lives are just turned upside down

1308
01:12:46.439 --> 01:12:51.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're just victims of this terrible man and his cult.

1309
01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:54.960
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so that's and they put all of that

1310
01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:59.319
<v Speaker 2>on Karen. That's all Karen. Karen is just you know

1311
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Master who's you know, controlling everybody.

1312
01:13:02.760 --> 01:13:07.079
<v Speaker 3>But they didn't go looking for Aiden, like everybody says,

1313
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:11.479
<v Speaker 3>like she went looking for Aiden. That's not how it happened.

1314
01:13:11.479 --> 01:13:14.359
<v Speaker 3>People know what happened. You know, Natalie reached out to

1315
01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:16.760
<v Speaker 3>me and I put her in touch with Aiden. I

1316
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:19.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I think Aiden would have written the story regardless,

1317
01:13:22.359 --> 01:13:26.000
<v Speaker 3>but you know, Karen didn't go seeking out Aiden right

1318
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:28.840
<v Speaker 3>to write just you know, maybe she would have liked

1319
01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:31.800
<v Speaker 3>if she could have gotten somebody that was more mainstream.

1320
01:13:31.279 --> 01:13:32.720
<v Speaker 4>To have her back.

1321
01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:36.399
<v Speaker 3>Maybe people would have looked at it differently if it

1322
01:13:36.520 --> 01:13:40.439
<v Speaker 3>was like Ted Daniel, you know, saying this is all

1323
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'll cover up in corruption. But you just

1324
01:13:45.000 --> 01:13:46.319
<v Speaker 3>don't like that it comes from Aiden.

1325
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've said it a hundred times that they are

1326
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're more upset.

1327
01:13:56.000 --> 01:13:56.800
<v Speaker 6>About the witnesses.

1328
01:13:56.960 --> 01:14:00.159
<v Speaker 2>This is not I mean, I hate to say it's

1329
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.319
<v Speaker 2>not about John for them, but it's my opinion that

1330
01:14:03.359 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 2>they're more upset about what happened to the witnesses, all

1331
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:05.840
<v Speaker 2>of them.

1332
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.359
<v Speaker 6>And like I said, it's been said to me, so

1333
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 6>that's what they.

1334
01:14:10.279 --> 01:14:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Can They're so quick to defend Colin. You know, if

1335
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't in the house, why are you defending.

1336
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Why would you defend him?

1337
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:16.439
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1338
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:17.520
<v Speaker 6>Does Colin even care?

1339
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Does Colin care? Does anyone even asked Colin if he

1340
01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:24.520
<v Speaker 2>cares at all about what happened? What people are saying

1341
01:14:24.680 --> 01:14:27.119
<v Speaker 2>is I can tell you my son would not care

1342
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:28.720
<v Speaker 2>what a bunch of forty five ye old women are saying.

1343
01:14:28.760 --> 01:14:31.039
<v Speaker 6>I could promise you all that he would not care.

1344
01:14:31.920 --> 01:14:36.239
<v Speaker 6>He care, you know, like if a bunch of women

1345
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:37.600
<v Speaker 6>on Twitter were talking about my son.

1346
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:43.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it's because there was obviously a felony committed.

1347
01:14:43.560 --> 01:14:46.640
<v Speaker 1>It was he was probably involved, and so that's why

1348
01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:49.159
<v Speaker 1>they were so quick to defend him, because if he

1349
01:14:49.319 --> 01:14:54.439
<v Speaker 1>were convicted of a felony, which then there's there's no policeman,

1350
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:58.199
<v Speaker 1>there's no fireman, there's no good job because everybody's doing

1351
01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.800
<v Speaker 1>electronic background checks now, like e verify and all these

1352
01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.880
<v Speaker 1>other different websites. So if you have a record and

1353
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you lie about it and you apply for any real

1354
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:10.760
<v Speaker 1>legit job, you're gonna get even what you know what

1355
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:12.960
<v Speaker 1>you're doing, jen you're not you know, they're going to

1356
01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.239
<v Speaker 1>do a background check on you, and they're going to

1357
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 1>find out that you're a criminal if you have a

1358
01:15:18.159 --> 01:15:22.279
<v Speaker 1>felony arrest somewhere. So that's probably that's why they tried

1359
01:15:22.319 --> 01:15:25.840
<v Speaker 1>to hide Colin so badly that they made it look

1360
01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:28.520
<v Speaker 1>they made him look like he's involved, even if he wasn't.

1361
01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:31.119
<v Speaker 2>I just find it odd that they keep harping on

1362
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Colin being this child who's you know, he can't function,

1363
01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:38.279
<v Speaker 2>he can't go to college and this and that. Oh yeah,

1364
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's a grown man at this point. I mean,

1365
01:15:41.640 --> 01:15:42.279
<v Speaker 2>how come he's not.

1366
01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:44.479
<v Speaker 3>Saying, well, do you remember everything?

1367
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember I said earlier about everything's a lie?

1368
01:15:49.039 --> 01:15:49.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1369
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 1>So so everything's a lie? Oh I was intimidated, like

1370
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Turtle Boys said to to Chris Chris Albert in front

1371
01:15:56.840 --> 01:16:00.760
<v Speaker 1>of this stupid pizza play. Oh you look really intimidated, Chris. Yep,

1372
01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:02.880
<v Speaker 1>he looks so. But did he go to the court

1373
01:16:02.960 --> 01:16:05.520
<v Speaker 1>and lie and say he was intimidated. I mean he

1374
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:08.000
<v Speaker 1>probably would be, because if I put him alone on

1375
01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 1>the street with Turtle Boy, I put I bet Turtle

1376
01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 1>Boy beats his ass every day of the week. But

1377
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.640
<v Speaker 1>but with all his friends around, he's not intimidated. So

1378
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he's really not intimidated by Turtle Boy. But everything's Oh,

1379
01:16:20.359 --> 01:16:24.800
<v Speaker 1>my son is traumatized. He can't even complete his study

1380
01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the bridge Wata State because he's so traumatized by the truck.

1381
01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

1382
01:16:32.119 --> 01:16:34.279
<v Speaker 3>He made me laugh so hard during the trial.

1383
01:16:35.159 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 6>They're overdoing that a little bit.

1384
01:16:37.479 --> 01:16:38.199
<v Speaker 2>They are doing it.

1385
01:16:38.279 --> 01:16:42.840
<v Speaker 3>When Alan said to Wass was cross examining Colin, and

1386
01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:46.800
<v Speaker 3>he said something like were they antagonistic towards you? And

1387
01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.239
<v Speaker 3>he was like could you say that? And again and

1388
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:55.840
<v Speaker 3>he's like, were they antagonistic? He said, can you use

1389
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:00.560
<v Speaker 3>different words? And Alan Jacker said, were they mean like that?

1390
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:03.479
<v Speaker 3>Like his brain is so simple that.

1391
01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:10.720
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't wait and what are you talking about? And pagans, Wow,

1392
01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:12.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

1393
01:17:12.159 --> 01:17:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Paulin isn't like, you know, the happiest but just like

1394
01:17:15.880 --> 01:17:18.000
<v Speaker 2>what they're doing right now with Paul, they're like, how

1395
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.640
<v Speaker 2>can you do this to Paul? Your people are cruel,

1396
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:23.000
<v Speaker 2>your monsters, like Paul did this for himself.

1397
01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.399
<v Speaker 6>Paul did this for himself, you know.

1398
01:17:26.039 --> 01:17:29.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's the same thing the witness intimidation. If they

1399
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:31.319
<v Speaker 4>would have done the right thing and called the cops,

1400
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:36.319
<v Speaker 4>maybe this wouldn't have happened, because they have the opportunity exactly, well,

1401
01:17:36.399 --> 01:17:38.720
<v Speaker 4>you have to call nine one one. But yeah, I mean,

1402
01:17:38.840 --> 01:17:40.720
<v Speaker 4>this wouldn't have happened if they would have done the

1403
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:45.199
<v Speaker 4>right thing. They he could have potentially lived if they

1404
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 4>had done the right thing. And now they're acting like victims.

1405
01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:49.479
<v Speaker 1>I think.

1406
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:52.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's them acting like victims bothering people. It

1407
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:53.399
<v Speaker 2>bothers me too.

1408
01:17:53.479 --> 01:17:58.439
<v Speaker 1>You're not victims, no, I I you know, but it all,

1409
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:01.279
<v Speaker 1>it all comes back to the lie. We lie about everything.

1410
01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:04.439
<v Speaker 1>We play victims and we do whatever we can. We

1411
01:18:04.640 --> 01:18:07.439
<v Speaker 1>try to blame this guy turnably. Oh he's the one,

1412
01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:10.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're all you know. I think? Is it

1413
01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:13.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't Proctor or one of those guys had in order

1414
01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:16.840
<v Speaker 1>on him? Is it Proctor one or.

1415
01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.479
<v Speaker 3>No? Nobody has orders on Aiden, nobody.

1416
01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Witness.

1417
01:18:24.880 --> 01:18:27.680
<v Speaker 3>No, So they had they had when he was first

1418
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:31.000
<v Speaker 3>got his charges in district court, there was a stay

1419
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:35.319
<v Speaker 3>away for all of the victims. But once he was

1420
01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:39.439
<v Speaker 3>indicted and they went to the superior court, the statutes change,

1421
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.640
<v Speaker 3>so there was no there's nothing that says unless he's

1422
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:46.960
<v Speaker 3>like a physical danger and there has to be like

1423
01:18:47.439 --> 01:18:50.359
<v Speaker 3>like dangerousness that they can put a stay away. Because

1424
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Judge Krupp said to Mellow, tell me, why tell me

1425
01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:56.399
<v Speaker 3>how I can do this, and Mellow kept saying, you

1426
01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.560
<v Speaker 3>just can't. Yeah, like it just did.

1427
01:19:00.159 --> 01:19:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And.

1428
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.560
<v Speaker 3>He said I can't. So nobody has to stay away

1429
01:19:06.479 --> 01:19:12.000
<v Speaker 3>on aiden or a harassment order. Lindsay's was dropped. So yeah,

1430
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.199
<v Speaker 3>I mean technically he could do whatever he wants.

1431
01:19:16.159 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>And he should. Uh. And Robert Leslie's Beautiful Mind says

1432
01:19:20.399 --> 01:19:23.840
<v Speaker 1>Plus Karen says herself, she's desensitized to what's going on.

1433
01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:27.239
<v Speaker 1>She's had so many moments where she thinks the evidence

1434
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:30.479
<v Speaker 1>proves it, and every single time she's brought to yet

1435
01:19:30.520 --> 01:19:33.560
<v Speaker 1>another lie. So that and I'm so glad you just

1436
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:36.680
<v Speaker 1>bailed me out, Robert Lessie's Beautiful Mind, because I couldn't

1437
01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:40.159
<v Speaker 1>remember where my soliloquy was going earlier. But it was

1438
01:19:40.239 --> 01:19:44.119
<v Speaker 1>that if you see Karen smiling, and you're wondering why

1439
01:19:44.239 --> 01:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>she's smiling, and that's what I'm stitching back what Christy

1440
01:19:46.960 --> 01:19:49.119
<v Speaker 1>was saying. You don't know why she's you. You have

1441
01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:52.159
<v Speaker 1>never been in court, you have never been charged with murder,

1442
01:19:52.439 --> 01:19:54.199
<v Speaker 1>you've never had your life taking it, so you don't

1443
01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 1>know if it could produce a smile. You see her

1444
01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:01.560
<v Speaker 1>her police photo, She's like, f you in her police photo. Right,

1445
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:05.960
<v Speaker 1>So the attitude that she has in the facial expressions.

1446
01:20:06.279 --> 01:20:09.479
<v Speaker 1>You can think you know how you'd react where you

1447
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:12.199
<v Speaker 1>and Karen scenario, And the truth is, none of us

1448
01:20:12.239 --> 01:20:14.199
<v Speaker 1>here know how we would react if we were in

1449
01:20:14.279 --> 01:20:17.680
<v Speaker 1>that situation. We would hope we would react as courageously

1450
01:20:17.720 --> 01:20:19.640
<v Speaker 1>as she has. That's all we can hope for.

1451
01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I know I wouldn't have. I know I wouldn't have.

1452
01:20:22.920 --> 01:20:25.000
<v Speaker 3>I'll admit I probably if I was in that situation,

1453
01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:27.000
<v Speaker 3>I probably would have taken the You know, I'm not

1454
01:20:27.079 --> 01:20:28.720
<v Speaker 3>saying she got a plea deal because I don't know

1455
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:33.760
<v Speaker 3>anything about that at all, But yeah, I know I

1456
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.880
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be as strong as she as she is. Yeah,

1457
01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:39.079
<v Speaker 3>Christie would.

1458
01:20:40.720 --> 01:20:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know tradvertized by that woman you're talking about

1459
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:46.520
<v Speaker 2>earlier that didn't take the pleague.

1460
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

1461
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:51.520
<v Speaker 1>In the in the.

1462
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:58.880
<v Speaker 3>Adolesen case out of Florida, the mother and the son

1463
01:20:59.000 --> 01:21:02.720
<v Speaker 3>who had there, her son in law killed the woman

1464
01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:05.159
<v Speaker 3>that was like kind of the go between with Charlie

1465
01:21:05.199 --> 01:21:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Adelson and the murderers. They offered her a deal, a

1466
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:12.159
<v Speaker 3>plea deal, and if she testified against the shooters and

1467
01:21:12.279 --> 01:21:15.640
<v Speaker 3>against and the shooter was her ex husband and the

1468
01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:19.279
<v Speaker 3>father of her children, that she'd have no charges. She

1469
01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:22.399
<v Speaker 3>walks and she was like the mastermind kind of in

1470
01:21:22.479 --> 01:21:26.119
<v Speaker 3>the middle, and she turned it down and she got

1471
01:21:26.199 --> 01:21:31.359
<v Speaker 3>life in prison. Roll Like, somebody offers you that deal,

1472
01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:32.039
<v Speaker 3>you take it.

1473
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know what if she just told her lawyer.

1474
01:21:36.359 --> 01:21:39.439
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you can think you're small. Is someone backstage or

1475
01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we got no there we go, there's Christie. Okay, we're good.

1476
01:21:44.439 --> 01:21:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So we have about nine minutes left with the ladies,

1477
01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I think, and then we're going to start reading the

1478
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:53.279
<v Speaker 1>We're going to start to read off the folks that

1479
01:21:53.399 --> 01:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>donated I think Brian Junior's frozen donuts. Can you want

1480
01:21:57.159 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 1>to read this one jet.

1481
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:03.159
<v Speaker 3>From the second they said that they were actually filing

1482
01:22:03.239 --> 01:22:05.399
<v Speaker 3>the motion to dismiss that it would be impounded by

1483
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:08.119
<v Speaker 3>bad Yep. The truth cannot come out at all costs

1484
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:11.399
<v Speaker 3>for the common Wealth. Yeah, but you know, I I

1485
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:16.840
<v Speaker 3>don't think they should impound things like they do. I mean,

1486
01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's normal from what I'm hearing from

1487
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:21.680
<v Speaker 3>other people. But we're gonna hear it. We're gonna hear it.

1488
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:24.479
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna hear it in court, and we're gonna instead

1489
01:22:24.479 --> 01:22:29.359
<v Speaker 3>of reading it ourselves and trying to figure it out ourselves.

1490
01:22:29.399 --> 01:22:31.520
<v Speaker 3>We're going to hear it from her lawyers who have

1491
01:22:31.680 --> 01:22:34.960
<v Speaker 3>this amazing way of presenting it, so it's really something

1492
01:22:35.039 --> 01:22:37.279
<v Speaker 3>to look forward to. That's the way I look. I'm

1493
01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:39.960
<v Speaker 3>not I don't really care about the impounded shit because

1494
01:22:39.960 --> 01:22:40.920
<v Speaker 3>we're going to hear it all.

1495
01:22:41.000 --> 01:22:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, let's go around the horn with this one, just

1496
01:22:43.960 --> 01:22:47.039
<v Speaker 1>for fun, just because we like having fun, and we're

1497
01:22:47.039 --> 01:22:50.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna start with jen Who would you like to see

1498
01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 1>get arrested? If you could choose anybody involved in this

1499
01:22:53.800 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 1>case directly or tangentially, as far out as you want

1500
01:22:57.800 --> 01:23:00.239
<v Speaker 1>to take that from Brian Albert all the way out

1501
01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:03.399
<v Speaker 1>to somebody at court. It could be Madam Court reported

1502
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:05.960
<v Speaker 1>for all I care. Who would you most want to

1503
01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:08.239
<v Speaker 1>see be arrested? Who would gratify you the most?

1504
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Brian Higgins? Yeah, I really, I really believe. And I'll

1505
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:21.880
<v Speaker 3>say this like just my opinion that I think that, yeah,

1506
01:23:22.079 --> 01:23:27.199
<v Speaker 3>that he knows everything, and I think he's I think

1507
01:23:27.279 --> 01:23:30.319
<v Speaker 3>he's the one that's being protected. I really do. I

1508
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:34.760
<v Speaker 3>think that jeep outside the house, that cheap with the

1509
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:37.520
<v Speaker 3>snowplow on the front, that's the I feel like that

1510
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.920
<v Speaker 3>has something to do with it. I don't know what happened.

1511
01:23:42.520 --> 01:23:45.600
<v Speaker 2>He's an even just what he did in that in

1512
01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that gunshop, going in there and demanding that form, he

1513
01:23:48.640 --> 01:23:51.159
<v Speaker 2>has no right to that four four seven's reform. He

1514
01:23:51.159 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 2>has no right to that form. Just the way he

1515
01:23:54.359 --> 01:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>that says so much about him as as an agent

1516
01:23:57.720 --> 01:23:59.680
<v Speaker 2>that he thinks that he can just.

1517
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:01.199
<v Speaker 6>Demand to see.

1518
01:24:02.479 --> 01:24:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Whatever he wants.

1519
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, he's like an old school He reminds me

1520
01:24:06.840 --> 01:24:08.039
<v Speaker 2>like an old school cop.

1521
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:13.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, I would be happy if he was arrested.

1522
01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody is ever going to be arrested

1523
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:20.640
<v Speaker 3>or found guilty for John's murder. I really know. At

1524
01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:23.159
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, I've never thought the FBI was going to

1525
01:24:23.199 --> 01:24:26.720
<v Speaker 3>swoop in and make all these you know, indict all

1526
01:24:26.760 --> 01:24:31.039
<v Speaker 3>these people and put them in handcuffs. And I think

1527
01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:34.319
<v Speaker 3>my focus has always just been on proving that it's

1528
01:24:34.359 --> 01:24:36.720
<v Speaker 3>not It just wasn't Karen. The rest of it we

1529
01:24:36.840 --> 01:24:40.039
<v Speaker 3>have no control over, but you know, just to support

1530
01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Karen is the most important thing in my opinion.

1531
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree, Bia, who would you like to see arrested?

1532
01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:51.479
<v Speaker 4>I think Ba. I think it was his house. He

1533
01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:55.880
<v Speaker 4>had control over that, the scene. He could have helped

1534
01:24:56.560 --> 01:25:00.319
<v Speaker 4>and it was his lawn, So I think and believe

1535
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:04.680
<v Speaker 4>he was involved, in my opinion, So I think him Christy.

1536
01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>Who would you like to see arrested.

1537
01:25:05.960 --> 01:25:07.960
<v Speaker 6>Most Oh that's Kate?

1538
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:13.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because because she's never gonna stop, and she's the

1539
01:25:13.520 --> 01:25:21.720
<v Speaker 2>one who's terrorizing people. These witnesses wouldn't have any of

1540
01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:23.600
<v Speaker 2>the I don't even want to call it power, but

1541
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:30.399
<v Speaker 2>they are organized because of her. I mean, yeah, she's

1542
01:25:30.560 --> 01:25:34.680
<v Speaker 2>helping them way more than they would. Kate for sure,

1543
01:25:36.319 --> 01:25:40.880
<v Speaker 2>she's Yeah, she's the one who's scheming and plotting and

1544
01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:53.680
<v Speaker 2>giving them all their ideas. Yeah, Ryan and who I

1545
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:55.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know who. The other one is Ryan Nagel for sure.

1546
01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>But I posted it and I was And it's the

1547
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 2>only tweet that I took down, not because an accident.

1548
01:26:02.279 --> 01:26:04.079
<v Speaker 2>I deliberately took it down because I was asked to

1549
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:08.159
<v Speaker 2>take it down because they didn't want it the place

1550
01:26:08.199 --> 01:26:11.239
<v Speaker 2>where it happened. So I agreed and I took it down.

1551
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:12.640
<v Speaker 2>But it was Ryan Nagele for sure.

1552
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Who I don't know.

1553
01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:17.720
<v Speaker 6>It was a fist fight about five months ago.

1554
01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Oh yeah, I just hear about that.

1555
01:26:21.199 --> 01:26:22.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah that's one hundred percent true.

1556
01:26:23.640 --> 01:26:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Boston, skip off. Thank you very much for

1557
01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>the five We will donate that to Miss Karen Reid

1558
01:26:28.520 --> 01:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that. And here's one from the legend. I'll

1559
01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>do the John F. Kennedy voice for this one. Who

1560
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>do you think all the antics have been about lately?

1561
01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>They know that government misconduct, motion to dismissus gone to

1562
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:48.920
<v Speaker 1>sink them. So I think what she's asking is, what

1563
01:26:49.039 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>do you think all these antics are about lately? Do

1564
01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:53.720
<v Speaker 1>you guys want to offer up some opinions on that

1565
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:54.960
<v Speaker 1>for miss Olivia?

1566
01:26:57.279 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 3>The antics lately in court?

1567
01:26:59.399 --> 01:27:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You mean, is that what you mean, Olivia? If

1568
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>you could clarify that further, Is it just Judge Bev's

1569
01:27:05.479 --> 01:27:10.399
<v Speaker 1>antics in terms of denying motions and just kind of acting.

1570
01:27:10.800 --> 01:27:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I just will never figure out why they're doing this.

1571
01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they've always said it's the law, it's it's

1572
01:27:17.800 --> 01:27:20.960
<v Speaker 3>you don't prosecute a case unless you can prove it

1573
01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:24.880
<v Speaker 3>beyond a reasonable doubt. And the fact that they're just

1574
01:27:25.119 --> 01:27:27.520
<v Speaker 3>continuing to go on with this and.

1575
01:27:29.439 --> 01:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Why that's what I don't I think it's if if

1576
01:27:33.079 --> 01:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a police officer, there wouldn't be a second troll. No, no, no,

1577
01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:38.680
<v Speaker 2>no doubt my mind, I think that's the only reason

1578
01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:40.159
<v Speaker 2>why I can't.

1579
01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:40.600
<v Speaker 6>I can't.

1580
01:27:40.800 --> 01:27:44.319
<v Speaker 3>What if it's hung again, it will be trial, if.

1581
01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:48.159
<v Speaker 2>It will be hung again, if anything, if not acquitted,

1582
01:27:48.199 --> 01:27:50.960
<v Speaker 2>because there's no there's no way they.

1583
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:51.439
<v Speaker 6>Can't prove it.

1584
01:27:51.960 --> 01:27:55.039
<v Speaker 1>No, they can't. They can't find her guilty. But the

1585
01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>reason it's going to be hung again is because they can.

1586
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>They can have one of the troopers give them info

1587
01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in the jury. They can have Brian Albert go and

1588
01:28:03.079 --> 01:28:08.560
<v Speaker 1>intimidate jurors before deliberations. They can bev can shut down

1589
01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>any kind of momentum that they would have in terms

1590
01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of defense litigation on behalf of Karen. She can shut

1591
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that down and she will. He'll say object every time.

1592
01:28:19.079 --> 01:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>She's going to sustain so the jury. She can confuse

1593
01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>the jury instructions again, there's so many ways that she

1594
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>can act as a prosecution prosecuting attorney that I think

1595
01:28:31.840 --> 01:28:35.039
<v Speaker 1>that and plus people like to disagree anyway. You listen

1596
01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:37.319
<v Speaker 1>to what the jur that was on with Aiden, all

1597
01:28:37.359 --> 01:28:41.920
<v Speaker 1>the things that they fell for, very very very very

1598
01:28:42.039 --> 01:28:47.279
<v Speaker 1>easy stupid tricks. They thought Jen McKay was believable. Are

1599
01:28:47.359 --> 01:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>you kidding me?

1600
01:28:48.680 --> 01:28:48.720
<v Speaker 3>So?

1601
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>With that kind of stupidity, I don't think they're gonna

1602
01:28:52.760 --> 01:28:54.239
<v Speaker 1>get twelve. Oh I don't think.

1603
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:59.840
<v Speaker 3>I hope I don't either, But what so, mind, the

1604
01:29:00.119 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 3>question is why is bed behaving like this? Because she

1605
01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 3>say she is convicted, Say she's convicted of the lowest charge,

1606
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:11.479
<v Speaker 3>and it's an automatic appeal, and then everybody's going to

1607
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:14.880
<v Speaker 3>be looking at what you did during the trial, Like

1608
01:29:14.960 --> 01:29:16.560
<v Speaker 3>why isn't she thinking about that?

1609
01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1610
01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.239
<v Speaker 3>Is this what she wants her legacy to be after

1611
01:29:20.600 --> 01:29:23.239
<v Speaker 3>forty years of being a defense attorney and a judge,

1612
01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:27.239
<v Speaker 3>to be appealed On the Karen read and made a

1613
01:29:27.319 --> 01:29:30.760
<v Speaker 3>fool out of if she's convicted, I don't think she

1614
01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>will be convicted. But no, there's always the if, there's

1615
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>always the if.

1616
01:29:35.439 --> 01:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>There's no way they could get twelve people. I agree, Yeah,

1617
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:42.439
<v Speaker 1>I hope believe they could get twelve people. But I

1618
01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.600
<v Speaker 1>also think that there will be some idiot and that

1619
01:29:45.840 --> 01:29:48.439
<v Speaker 1>that will that will be against I mean, it only

1620
01:29:48.520 --> 01:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>takes one or two and then they then they'll it

1621
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:53.800
<v Speaker 1>could be a hung jury. And do you think they

1622
01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:54.720
<v Speaker 1>would go for a third?

1623
01:29:56.600 --> 01:29:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't.

1624
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:00.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't you think you guys?

1625
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:03.239
<v Speaker 3>I do you do?

1626
01:30:04.239 --> 01:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think everything they do is wrong, So

1627
01:30:07.159 --> 01:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I have to just keep going with that until they

1628
01:30:09.600 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>prove that I'm wrong about them being liars and trying

1629
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:15.439
<v Speaker 1>to destroy this woman's life. If I can see any

1630
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:19.439
<v Speaker 1>motivation other than that and builking the taxpayers, then I'm

1631
01:30:19.439 --> 01:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>happy to say that they would, they would let to,

1632
01:30:22.079 --> 01:30:25.199
<v Speaker 1>they would take Owen two. But I think Hank was

1633
01:30:25.279 --> 01:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>hired to get a hung Jerry because they know they

1634
01:30:27.600 --> 01:30:30.479
<v Speaker 1>can't convict her because they don't have the evidence. They

1635
01:30:30.520 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>really don't go ahead. I'm sorry, man, please Christy, you

1636
01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>don't they know?

1637
01:30:36.920 --> 01:30:40.720
<v Speaker 2>They really they really don't. It's it's it's really crazy.

1638
01:30:41.159 --> 01:30:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Will they go for a third?

1639
01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:44.199
<v Speaker 6>Do I think they'll go for third?

1640
01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:44.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1641
01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I I no, probably just

1642
01:30:49.000 --> 01:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>because it seems crazy to me. But who knows what them.

1643
01:30:53.479 --> 01:30:54.479
<v Speaker 3>Ellis? Four times?

1644
01:30:54.560 --> 01:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, oh yeah, what what's your man?

1645
01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:02.840
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I have the fate that she has

1646
01:31:02.880 --> 01:31:06.760
<v Speaker 4>a very strong defense team that they've learned from their mistakes.

1647
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.199
<v Speaker 4>They have a lot of feedback, there's a lot of them,

1648
01:31:09.239 --> 01:31:11.000
<v Speaker 4>and I really think she's going to be acquitted. In

1649
01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:14.479
<v Speaker 4>my opinion, I hope her we're.

1650
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Going to go with that.

1651
01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely don't think she's going to be found guilty.

1652
01:31:18.119 --> 01:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's just anyone who thinks that might

1653
01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>need their head examined it.

1654
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:24.640
<v Speaker 3>But what if they My question is, are they able

1655
01:31:24.720 --> 01:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>to add a charge as now? Like what if they

1656
01:31:27.079 --> 01:31:30.840
<v Speaker 3>added an involuntary manslaughter charge.

1657
01:31:31.159 --> 01:31:32.279
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they mean.

1658
01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:36.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so from my mind, I like to

1659
01:31:36.159 --> 01:31:36.760
<v Speaker 3>think about that.

1660
01:31:38.319 --> 01:31:41.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, I don't think they can up there

1661
01:31:41.199 --> 01:31:42.159
<v Speaker 4>that at this point.

1662
01:31:43.720 --> 01:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's not an up charge. It could be like

1663
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.720
<v Speaker 3>a lesser included. I don't know. I don't know. These

1664
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:51.479
<v Speaker 3>are just the questions that I lay awake.

1665
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>No, because she was indicted on these charges, I don't

1666
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>think they can add a charge. But anyway, Olivia says

1667
01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that the antics she was talking at the annex, in

1668
01:32:03.680 --> 01:32:06.199
<v Speaker 1>court and to the media, I wouldn't be surprised if

1669
01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.479
<v Speaker 1>Judge Canoni's conduct is the focus of their motion to

1670
01:32:09.600 --> 01:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>dismiss it would have it would have to be. Yeah,

1671
01:32:13.159 --> 01:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>this this woman makes me so sick. Like if Karen's acquitted,

1672
01:32:16.840 --> 01:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I told her, I will I won't go to work

1673
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the next day. I will one hundred percent calling sick.

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01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:25.840
<v Speaker 1>I probably will start making alcoholic beverages and I rarely drink.

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01:32:26.319 --> 01:32:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just gonna be insane if if that happens, Like,

1676
01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll be so excited when it happens, when it happens,

1677
01:32:32.960 --> 01:32:35.520
<v Speaker 1>when it Thank you. We needed the power of I need,

1678
01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I need the power of positive thinking. You're one hundred

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01:32:37.840 --> 01:32:42.239
<v Speaker 1>percent right, all right. I think it's about time for

1680
01:32:42.359 --> 01:32:45.039
<v Speaker 1>us to let the ladies out of here. If you

1681
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:49.119
<v Speaker 1>have a really compelling question, you have to get off

1682
01:32:49.199 --> 01:32:53.079
<v Speaker 1>your chest. I want to get it to Christy and

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01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to my other co host who has been Jen. Do

1684
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:58.720
<v Speaker 1>you realize that like how great you are as a

1685
01:32:58.760 --> 01:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>co host? Have you figured that out?

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01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:00.319
<v Speaker 3>Ah?

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01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Thanks, Yes, we're going to ask you back, so be

1688
01:33:04.279 --> 01:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>prepared for me to text you though. We need you

1689
01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:11.760
<v Speaker 1>to call host tonight. Police. Okay, let's see we got

1690
01:33:11.800 --> 01:33:14.479
<v Speaker 1>one here from Lovely. Hello, Lovely, thank you for being

1691
01:33:14.520 --> 01:33:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a member of the jury. Should definitely know everything about

1692
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the FBI, the investigation, and the crash daddies. They should

1693
01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:26.119
<v Speaker 1>be allowed to know better. I think they will, I hope,

1694
01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:28.079
<v Speaker 1>so I think that's the most I think they will.

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01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:31.119
<v Speaker 3>I think I think they will only because there's no

1696
01:33:31.600 --> 01:33:36.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, they have to motion to drop the protective order.

1697
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming that's what they're going to do and.

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<v Speaker 6>Think they you know, they have to.

1699
01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Tell them about the federal grand jury and the you

1700
01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:51.000
<v Speaker 3>know where they have to they have to. I think

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01:33:51.039 --> 01:33:54.279
<v Speaker 3>that would be if she denied them being able to

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01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 3>talk about and I think she denied it last time

1703
01:33:56.960 --> 01:33:59.479
<v Speaker 3>because there was still an active investigation. And if it

1704
01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:02.520
<v Speaker 3>is true that there is no active investigation anymore than

1705
01:34:02.600 --> 01:34:04.119
<v Speaker 3>what's the harm of letting the Jerry know.

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01:34:05.319 --> 01:34:08.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, man, I'm with you legally. I don't

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01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:10.079
<v Speaker 1>know if Val, if Val can weigh in on that

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01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:14.039
<v Speaker 1>about whether uh you know, legally because Val hell she's

1709
01:34:14.119 --> 01:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>our official attorney. If they could and should know, if

1710
01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>you can weigh in on that, we'll get to it.

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01:34:18.760 --> 01:34:22.119
<v Speaker 1>But I wanna shout out to letters by Bedros my

1712
01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>homie from I'll try to do a Jersey accent when I.

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01:34:25.399 --> 01:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>When I read this one, we see the literally isn't

1714
01:34:29.600 --> 01:34:32.520
<v Speaker 1>an attorney on YouTube who doesn't see how biased and

1715
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>disgrace bev? Is even one who didn't before? I now

1716
01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:38.880
<v Speaker 1>see yet, I don't know. That wasn't good. That sounded

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01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:43.600
<v Speaker 1>more like does that sound more like Long Island than Jersey?

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01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Danielle forgive me.

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01:34:48.520 --> 01:34:56.680
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Vinnie's commerud I heard Yeah Vinnie on his own YouTube.

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01:34:57.159 --> 01:35:01.039
<v Speaker 1>Only Little said he was questioning he's seeing things in BEV.

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01:35:01.199 --> 01:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I get, is that? Is it BEV that he was

1722
01:35:02.920 --> 01:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>looking at?

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01:35:03.800 --> 01:35:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Yeah, right.

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01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:07.800
<v Speaker 2>We used to always joke about it and how much

1725
01:35:07.840 --> 01:35:11.720
<v Speaker 2>he hated the defense. It's like you can't really deny it.

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01:35:13.079 --> 01:35:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Hey, thank you.

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01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Lah.

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01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I looked at Man, I know how that said. I

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01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>get that one. And Janine campus says, I gotta go

1730
01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:21.439
<v Speaker 1>right now. I'll listen to you guys in the car

1731
01:35:21.840 --> 01:35:27.159
<v Speaker 1>and she spelled his c A. I showed up for

1732
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Christy Hell's yeah, I know you're not showing up for me,

1733
01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:32.039
<v Speaker 1>so I would assume.

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01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:34.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, Hi, is it Emma my eyesight?

1735
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Here? Great job, ladies. What else you got, terrible judge? Oh,

1736
01:35:45.000 --> 01:35:47.319
<v Speaker 1>here's one from Janine? Janine, you're in the car now.

1737
01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:54.119
<v Speaker 1>Jen is awesome? Yes she is. And there you go,

1738
01:35:54.279 --> 01:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>positive pathways? What else we got? Mary Unlessie was amazing,

1739
01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>gave beg no, gave bev no. Yeah. And he's very

1740
01:36:03.840 --> 01:36:07.600
<v Speaker 1>respectful and kind, and he he has more patience because

1741
01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Alan will lose it man if

1742
01:36:09.840 --> 01:36:13.760
<v Speaker 1>he has to deal with this dirt bag. Christi and

1743
01:36:13.840 --> 01:36:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Jenner the best love both you know her, you know Mary, Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1744
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent prejudiced not allowing that in. Thank you, love,

1745
01:36:27.319 --> 01:36:32.079
<v Speaker 1>thank you for participating, all right? And from the rocket

1746
01:36:32.159 --> 01:36:37.439
<v Speaker 1>to a man from Canada, I love Rush anyway. Can

1747
01:36:37.520 --> 01:36:39.720
<v Speaker 1>you do you have any groups from Canada that you

1748
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:42.199
<v Speaker 1>guys like, I.

1749
01:36:42.199 --> 01:36:54.000
<v Speaker 8>Don't know, Wow, Okay, Neil Young from Canada, Triumph a Boy, Okay, Glass,

1750
01:36:54.399 --> 01:36:54.840
<v Speaker 8>that guy.

1751
01:36:54.760 --> 01:36:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Snow Snow Snow is that guy from Canada?

1752
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh, Patrol Rake Drake's from Canada. And Brian Adams if

1753
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:10.840
<v Speaker 1>you remember Summer's Oh yeah, yeah, Brian Adams, Yeah, b

1754
01:37:11.079 --> 01:37:14.840
<v Speaker 1>r y a n Yeah, he's still doing the damn thing.

1755
01:37:15.439 --> 01:37:16.920
<v Speaker 6>A lot of deep songs by him.

1756
01:37:17.359 --> 01:37:22.880
<v Speaker 1>All right, okay, ladies, we will go ahead and we

1757
01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>will read the stuff that I want to cut you

1758
01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>guys loose. Thank you so much, Christy for coming and

1759
01:37:29.680 --> 01:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>telling your story. I hope you'll come back on and

1760
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 1>uh and we can we can spill more tea. People

1761
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.399
<v Speaker 1>are gonna need more stains on the front of the shirt.

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01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:37.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:37:37.159 --> 01:37:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I try not to stutter as much or be as

1764
01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:42.479
<v Speaker 2>this was nervous for me, but you know I did

1765
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>know right, you know.

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01:37:47.359 --> 01:37:49.079
<v Speaker 4>You did awesome and I have to say you are

1767
01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:51.680
<v Speaker 4>so entertaining. I love on X how you like tell

1768
01:37:51.720 --> 01:37:54.479
<v Speaker 4>them where you are, what time, where you like you

1769
01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.079
<v Speaker 4>just don't care like I love that about you.

1770
01:37:57.960 --> 01:38:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I like to get them going once they're like, you

1771
01:38:00.199 --> 01:38:01.800
<v Speaker 2>don't need to post that now, I'm going to post

1772
01:38:01.840 --> 01:38:04.439
<v Speaker 2>it ten times in a row, right, like if you

1773
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>tell me not to do something.

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01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:08.359
<v Speaker 3>Now, She's the best.

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01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm lucky we got the show in before we lost

1776
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:18.159
<v Speaker 1>her audio. I know we've totally lost her audio.

1777
01:38:18.560 --> 01:38:21.920
<v Speaker 4>Just keep being you because you're entertaining and you don't

1778
01:38:22.239 --> 01:38:23.039
<v Speaker 4>give two f's.

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01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's a pleasure to meet you.

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01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Thank you guys, Bye, Thank you soon.

1781
01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:31.479
<v Speaker 1>What do you want to say to gen Aman? You

1782
01:38:31.560 --> 01:38:34.479
<v Speaker 1>got to say something to gen Jen's my girl, you know.

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01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:37.479
<v Speaker 4>So I will see you Sunday, Love you girl.

1784
01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:38.520
<v Speaker 1>We'll see.

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01:38:40.000 --> 01:38:45.279
<v Speaker 3>See then. All right, get out of here, okay, Yeah.

1786
01:38:45.760 --> 01:38:51.039
<v Speaker 1>The great job, great job. All right, let's put this

1787
01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:53.399
<v Speaker 1>thing up on the screen so we can do here Bia.

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01:38:54.159 --> 01:38:57.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so if you want, okay, so I already have

1789
01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:00.880
<v Speaker 4>it back to the first one, so okay, so I

1790
01:39:00.960 --> 01:39:03.039
<v Speaker 4>can just either read them and just scroll up.

1791
01:39:04.399 --> 01:39:07.199
<v Speaker 1>So that do you know how to share it or okay,

1792
01:39:07.239 --> 01:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>you've got it written down, all right, that's okay, I

1793
01:39:09.479 --> 01:39:10.920
<v Speaker 1>mean I have it on my phone. All right, we

1794
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:13.840
<v Speaker 1>will thank them. Okay, go ahead, Okay, so.

1795
01:39:14.600 --> 01:39:18.800
<v Speaker 4>I'll be okay, calling all beings my sweet Christy, delicious

1796
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:26.079
<v Speaker 4>and boop. Happy birthday Karen. Then we have Clerk Jim,

1797
01:39:26.239 --> 01:39:32.760
<v Speaker 4>Happy birth Cab, Happy birthday, Karen Reid, let's see, yes,

1798
01:39:33.000 --> 01:39:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Lulu Sheehan, Happy birthday, Karen Read calling all beings.

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01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:42.399
<v Speaker 6>We have let's see, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you, thank you val hal Law for pointing

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01:39:45.479 --> 01:39:53.319
<v Speaker 1>that out about the feds. Here, Scotty's here.

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01:39:53.319 --> 01:39:58.239
<v Speaker 4>What's up, Scott, Yes, Scotty's here, and sorry if we

1803
01:39:58.359 --> 01:40:05.199
<v Speaker 4>miss anyone, because this is yeah, it's definitely uh. I

1804
01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:07.920
<v Speaker 4>mean they're up to seven hundred. So today's goal was

1805
01:40:08.039 --> 01:40:11.359
<v Speaker 4>just to get over seven hundred, and we're at seven

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01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:17.279
<v Speaker 4>hundred fifteen eighty six. Let's see.

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01:40:22.000 --> 01:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Tragically hip also from Canada, apparently, what's up man?

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01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:31.239
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Mike, appreciate you brother, Okay, so Amy Smith,

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01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:35.279
<v Speaker 4>wishing you Karen nothing but positive positivity for your birthday.

1810
01:40:35.279 --> 01:40:37.720
<v Speaker 4>I will continue to pray for you and your family.

1811
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I will continue to share injustice. Massachusetts and America need

1812
01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:45.640
<v Speaker 4>to pay attention again. Happy birthday watching calling all beings

1813
01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.640
<v Speaker 4>with DJ and Beatrice Amy's Positive Pathway.

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01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Yay Positive Pathways. Yes, thank you, thank you Positive Pathways.

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01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I hope we get to see you in Massachusetts. Yeah,

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01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:00.520
<v Speaker 1>thank you, Boston Brandy, I know we gonna see you

1817
01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:05.119
<v Speaker 1>with the meal food. Everybody's invited, so we will. We

1818
01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:08.720
<v Speaker 1>will put that out formally on Twitter. We're not looking

1819
01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>to make a big crowd, but everybody is welcome. We

1820
01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:16.119
<v Speaker 1>will never have an exclusive event, period dot. So it'll

1821
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:21.359
<v Speaker 1>be at the town Spa Pizza in Stoughton twenty eight March,

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01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:25.239
<v Speaker 1>six pm because we're gonna get the early bird special.

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01:41:25.279 --> 01:41:27.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding, all right, go ahead, be I'm sorry.

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01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:29.159
<v Speaker 4>Man, all right, No, that's okay. You gave me a

1825
01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:33.399
<v Speaker 4>chance to scroll, Okay. So Tiffany Marshall, happiest birthday, Karen.

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01:41:33.439 --> 01:41:35.920
<v Speaker 4>You inspire all of us every day. I talk about

1827
01:41:35.960 --> 01:41:38.720
<v Speaker 4>your case to everyone and anyone. I will never stop

1828
01:41:38.800 --> 01:41:42.560
<v Speaker 4>talking until you're free and John receives the justice he deserves.

1829
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Even even then, I'll probably still be talking non stop

1830
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:50.640
<v Speaker 4>talking about it. Just know that we are never going anywhere.

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01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.680
<v Speaker 4>We ain't got no quick because I know the Commonwealth

1832
01:41:53.840 --> 01:41:57.640
<v Speaker 4>monitors everything. BEV. Get off the bench, Hank, You're an

1833
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:01.359
<v Speaker 4>absolute piece of garbage. You're a discrace. Alan Jackson isn't

1834
01:42:01.399 --> 01:42:04.680
<v Speaker 4>going anywhere, and neither is Arka. I can't wait for

1835
01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:07.520
<v Speaker 4>him and the rest of the dream Team to destroy

1836
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:11.239
<v Speaker 4>you and your shitty, completely fabricated joke of a case.

1837
01:42:11.359 --> 01:42:14.600
<v Speaker 4>Give us back, Lally c W you fed up around

1838
01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.760
<v Speaker 4>and now you're gonna find out cas is that that

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01:42:19.079 --> 01:42:21.239
<v Speaker 4>was Tiffany Marshall.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiffany Marshall, well said.

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01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:31.520
<v Speaker 4>Girl, that was awesome. Let's see just scrolling a little

1842
01:42:31.520 --> 01:42:32.279
<v Speaker 4>bit further.

1843
01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Because it's all good if we don't care if you

1844
01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:38.279
<v Speaker 1>donate here or anywhere. If you donate, that's awesome. And

1845
01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.439
<v Speaker 1>CAB is going to donate one hundred tonight to all

1846
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to Karen as well.

1847
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and then Lulu Sheehan. I don't think i've read

1848
01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:50.399
<v Speaker 4>her Happy Birthday calling all beings. I think that was

1849
01:42:50.560 --> 01:42:55.399
<v Speaker 4>the end of them. But just to take okay, so again,

1850
01:42:55.479 --> 01:42:57.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to take credit that we you know,

1851
01:42:57.479 --> 01:43:00.800
<v Speaker 4>but just when we started the show down the number

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01:43:01.520 --> 01:43:04.600
<v Speaker 4>so it was at seven hundred, twelve thousand, one hundred

1853
01:43:04.600 --> 01:43:07.840
<v Speaker 4>and ninety five. Right now they're at seven hundred and

1854
01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>fifteen thousand and one eighty six. So just goes to

1855
01:43:11.119 --> 01:43:14.359
<v Speaker 4>show you, you know, I know the other YouTubers are on,

1856
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.960
<v Speaker 4>have been on all day throughout the day, and it's

1857
01:43:18.119 --> 01:43:22.279
<v Speaker 4>just amazing that we were under seven hundred today and

1858
01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:25.399
<v Speaker 4>now we're at seven hundred and fifteen thousand. So great

1859
01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:28.359
<v Speaker 4>job to everyone who donated, who helped spread the word.

1860
01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:31.520
<v Speaker 4>And if you couldn't donate, it's fine, just help spread

1861
01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:35.039
<v Speaker 4>the word, share like and you know, get it out

1862
01:43:35.079 --> 01:43:38.000
<v Speaker 4>there for others. And you know, we thank everybody for

1863
01:43:38.079 --> 01:43:38.640
<v Speaker 4>your support.

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01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, we're gonna we're going to make a donation

1865
01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>tonight and plus we're gonna I'm gonna donate plus what

1866
01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:51.279
<v Speaker 1>came from the YouTube as well, So thank you everybody.

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01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh can't chronicle. Look who's here?

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<v Speaker 3>Man? Oh?

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01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:58.479
<v Speaker 1>John come o? My friend's Canadian homie.

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01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:02.680
<v Speaker 4>And great on your show. John, I've been watching. It's

1871
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:05.840
<v Speaker 4>funny to see you be so serious, but I love it.

1872
01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:08.159
<v Speaker 4>I love that you can be serious and you also

1873
01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:10.159
<v Speaker 4>have this playful side of you that we all know

1874
01:44:10.319 --> 01:44:10.680
<v Speaker 4>and love.

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01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you are such a natural John. You're gonna do

1876
01:44:16.439 --> 01:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>you know you're gonna do really really great things on YouTube.

1877
01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:22.800
<v Speaker 1>I wish you would have started even sooner. But you're

1878
01:44:22.840 --> 01:44:27.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna do the damn thing. You're You're great. These are

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<v Speaker 1>great questions just south of history. These are these are

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<v Speaker 1>these are great great questions. Uh town spas bang and

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<v Speaker 1>says Mike. Guess pretty sure they are cash only? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>John said that, but they have an ATM on site.

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<v Speaker 1>No before you go, because they ain't gonna lose that

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<v Speaker 1>five percent or what what are they? What do they

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<v Speaker 1>take va for those those transactions? The credit card companies? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the percentage right, yes they do.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, lul Lubelle, thank you for being such a

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<v Speaker 1>great supporter of our show. We really appreciate you donating

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<v Speaker 1>doing the damn thing like you've been doing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and Loula Bell reach out. When you're back in town.

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<v Speaker 4>We can meet up for coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can meet up for coffee. Yes, come or

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<v Speaker 1>come to town spot pizza. I'm gonna put in er

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<v Speaker 1>on their pizza.

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<v Speaker 4>She said she was traveling, so she's not back in

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<v Speaker 4>mass yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, well somebody gotta go have fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be go hanging out with Sweeney that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I got going on in McGinnis.

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<v Speaker 3>So and be.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, this was a great show. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>made Jerry Dizzle, Kelly is here, Miss Jessica and Beezy

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<v Speaker 1>Julie the original Gangster. So I appreciate all you ladies

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<v Speaker 1>for making this thing happened tonight. I didn't see our

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<v Speaker 1>new member. Hopefully we can get her up in the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to make her a mod the aka the

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<v Speaker 1>cat Lady. Oh yeah, yeah, we gotta get there. Amazing

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<v Speaker 1>day for the defense fun. Hell yeah, let's keep it going. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know how much we contributed, but

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<v Speaker 1>we cab will contribute, and we're grateful that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>came on and contributed some of our name and most

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<v Speaker 1>importantly what you could do for us. You made the

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<v Speaker 1>ladies feel welcome, You made him feel loved, and we

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate that. So on behalfy, yes, ma'am, I'm sorry guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, oh no, I was just gonna say absolutely just

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, and also if I missed anyone, my apologies.

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<v Speaker 4>But at the end of the day, what matters is

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<v Speaker 4>that those donations are going towards such a great cause

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<v Speaker 4>to help Karen get out of this crazy nightmare that

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<v Speaker 4>she's living.

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<v Speaker 1>So today was a twenty two thousand dollars day that

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<v Speaker 1>Tiff is saying from the beginning of when the day started,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're pretty much right on target. There'd be twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars raised for her today. So I'm hoped.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, to the Reed family, we love you, we

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<v Speaker 1>support you, and we're sorry that you have to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with so many dishonest assholes. Oh and that's all. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about all my voice could take tonight. So on

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of my co host Bill and are a guest

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<v Speaker 1>co host Jen Altman.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, hey man, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, that wasn't the one I was looking for. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking for this one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounding a little muscled.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh can't hear that one?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, boys, we got this damn machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcast. My goodness, we'll see all the message. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>pe out one love and we'll see you down the road.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh we should we should plan that, coordinate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, hold on, I'll go oh wait, so I

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<v Speaker 1>need to do this disarm and you do that? There?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye everybody, bye bye. Yeah, there we go.