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Cynthia Albrick, the executive chef of the Penske 32 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.680 Marlborough racing team and darling of the Indie car circuit, 33 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.439 went missing on October twenty fifth, nineteen ninety two, the 34 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:05.200 night before her divorce from Michael Albrech became final Drivers 35 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.120 and racing crews from across the country converged on the 36 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:12.280 brickyard site of the Indianapolis five hundred to help search 37 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.879 for her. As the head mechanic for the Dick Simon 38 00:02:16.039 --> 00:02:19.840 racing team known as Crabby across the race circuit, Michael 39 00:02:19.840 --> 00:02:24.039 had a reputation for bullying and abuse. He'd immediately become 40 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:28.000 a suspect in Cynthia's disappearance, but with a strong alibi, 41 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:30.520 there was nothing Authorities could do when he decided to 42 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.159 take a vacation to Florida and skip a scheduled polygraph 43 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:38.879 test and the search for his estranged wife. Nor could 44 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:41.719 law enforcement charge him when Cynthia's body was found a 45 00:02:41.719 --> 00:02:45.879 few weeks later in northern Indiana minus her head. The 46 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:48.599 case went cold for six years until a newly elected 47 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:52.439 prosecutor allowed his deputies to charge Michael Albrech with murder. 48 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:56.039 But would they be able to prove his guilt. This 49 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.960 true crime legal thriller, written by one of the prosecutors, 50 00:02:59.039 --> 00:03:03.520 Larry Cells and journalist Margie Porter, runs at full throttle 51 00:03:03.560 --> 00:03:06.159 and will leave you on the edge of your seat 52 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:09.080 right up to the checkered flag at the final verdict. 53 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:13.800 The book that we're featuring this evening is Race to Justice, 54 00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:18.360 with my special guest prosecutor and author Larry Sells and 55 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:21.960 journalist Margie Porter. Welcome to the program, and thank you 56 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.400 very much for agreeing to this interview. Larry Sells and 57 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:32.159 Margie Porter. Well, thank you, Dan, Thank you very much. 58 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:37.199 Margie Porter and Larry Sells. Now, first off, Margie, tell us, 59 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.599 as a journalist, how you came to be in a 60 00:03:40.639 --> 00:03:45.560 position to write this book, Race to Justice. 61 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.400 I have to say that God was blessing me because 62 00:03:48.439 --> 00:03:50.719 I don't think I could have ever found this story 63 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:55.560 by myself. I was in a writer's group working at 64 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:58.680 that time with a judge on some children's books, and 65 00:03:59.199 --> 00:04:01.800 Larry happened by our writers group at Barnes and Noble 66 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:04.759 and was talking to the judge and he ended up 67 00:04:05.280 --> 00:04:09.759 joining our writers group because he wanted to write this book. Well, 68 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:13.840 he liked my work, and eventually he asked me to 69 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:18.240 write the book, and I was like overjoyed because everybody 70 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:24.000 was hoping for an opportunity like this, and basically I 71 00:04:24.079 --> 00:04:26.720 just felt like, you know, the sky had opened for 72 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:28.959 me because I was getting to write this story. And 73 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.800 I think that it is such a vibrant story and 74 00:04:31.839 --> 00:04:35.399 it's a murder. Yes, it's a grizzly murder, and it's tragic, 75 00:04:35.720 --> 00:04:39.519 but there is so much inspiration in this story that 76 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.839 I just could not have stopped myself from writing it. 77 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:48.079 So basically I was invited to write and thrilled to 78 00:04:48.079 --> 00:04:49.040 get the opportunity. 79 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.959 Now, in the beginning of this book, we talk about 80 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:58.680 Cynthia Allbreakfast, larger than life character executive chef for Penske's 81 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:02.680 race team. And this is in May nineteen ninety two. 82 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:08.560 So tell us Margie who Cynthia Albrech was. Tell us 83 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:10.360 a little bit, as you write in the book, who 84 00:05:10.399 --> 00:05:14.160 she was, and then introduce her two best friends, Sandra 85 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:15.600 Fink and Rebecca Miller. 86 00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:22.079 Okay, so Cynthia Albreck from the beginning should have been 87 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:25.879 a tragic story. She grew up in Hialia, which is 88 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:31.800 basically the slumps in Florida, and she had alcoholic parents 89 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:35.399 and a very abusive life, and she was destined by 90 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.720 fate to go nowhere. But this girl had a lot 91 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:41.800 of spunk and she was determined that she would not 92 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:48.360 stay there in that gutter. And so through her own efforts, 93 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:52.079 she pulled herself up. She got a job, she got 94 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:56.279 out of her parents' house. She eventually met Michael Albreck 95 00:05:56.360 --> 00:06:01.000 at a racing venue and fell in love, and he 96 00:06:01.360 --> 00:06:05.920 moved her to Milwaukee where he was involved as a 97 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:12.720 race car mechanic. So she was born to tragedy. But 98 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.319 she was the kind of woman who would not be 99 00:06:15.480 --> 00:06:19.800 kept down. She loved, loved, loved water sports, and she 100 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.199 would get out there and she would try anything, and 101 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.240 she was just so feisty, and people loved her and 102 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.720 she loved people, and so that developed her. And when 103 00:06:29.800 --> 00:06:34.399 she got involved in the racing business. She started out 104 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:38.120 as a Sioux chef, but she had so much cooking 105 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.000 talent that she worked her way up to the executive 106 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:47.399 chef for Roger Penske. Roger Penske was the pinnacle. Everybody 107 00:06:47.480 --> 00:06:52.279 wanted to work for Roger Penske. So she was the 108 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:58.000 kind of woman who adored people. I mean, in one situation, 109 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:02.160 the girls were driving to work and Roger Penske said, 110 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:05.600 never ever ever be late, but there was an injured squirrel, 111 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:10.079 and Cindy stopped to help the squirrel, and she felt 112 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:14.600 that powerfully about an animal in distress. And the people 113 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:18.079 that she meant just adored her. I mean they called 114 00:07:18.120 --> 00:07:21.040 her Ellie May because she had such a huge heart 115 00:07:21.240 --> 00:07:24.120 and was kind to everybody, and it didn't matter what 116 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.000 team they were on. She would make sure that nobody 117 00:07:27.000 --> 00:07:33.519 went hungry. So people were just attracted to her, and 118 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:36.879 she was the darling of the race. You know ndy 119 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:42.199 five hundred, the gasoline alley. For decades, women weren't allowed there, 120 00:07:42.680 --> 00:07:49.519 but she was so anyway. Working for Penske, she met 121 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:54.519 Sandy Fink and Becka Miller. These were her two best friends, 122 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:59.240 and the three women ran the hospitality tent for the 123 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:04.920 Penske team. Sandy was a Barbie doll. Bec mean, she 124 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:09.040 was just, you know, this gorgeous blonde girl who had 125 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:12.120 had her own talents, and she was very organized and 126 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:18.439 she could do you know, delightful desserts. And Becca, you know, 127 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:22.160 was just you know, this jazzy, little bright person who 128 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:25.639 everybody adored, and everybody called them the girls in the 129 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:29.199 racing circuit. They are still the girls now, they're not 130 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:32.639 twenty anymore, but they are the girls and people just 131 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:36.639 love them. And they played practical jokes, they did drive 132 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:41.279 by fruitings, just having fun all the time. And so 133 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.519 they were in the big middle of racing, and their 134 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:47.519 husbands were all indie car mechanics, and they were best 135 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:50.919 friends and just having a wonderful, wonderful time the time 136 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:56.240 of their lives, and people adored them. And then of course, 137 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.440 tragedy struck. As you know, this isn't this is a murder, 138 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.360 and it's a gruesome murder. And if you read the 139 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:09.759 description of what this killer did to her, you know, 140 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:13.919 your stomach just kind of crumbles, because who would have 141 00:09:14.000 --> 00:09:17.000 the right to take such a bright and virbrant life. 142 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:24.960 So this person, this self made person Sndy Allbrick, was 143 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:29.440 destined for tragedy. She brought herself up to the heights 144 00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:31.639 of glory and then it was taken from her. 145 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:39.240 Now you talked about when she met Michael Albrick, she 146 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.039 fell in love, but then she found out that he 147 00:09:42.200 --> 00:09:47.240 was already married and he had other children in this 148 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:52.799 developing relationship, Like her personality is that she's not a homewrecker, 149 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:57.399 but tell us about that relationship with Michael and with 150 00:09:57.519 --> 00:10:00.320 the daughters. What kind of relationship they did have she 151 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.679 did have with those daughters, and then some of the 152 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.399 things that were characterized in the relationship in terms of 153 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:14.000 socializing with her career and his participation in that socializing 154 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:14.320 or not. 155 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:19.360 Okay, So she left her entire life in Florida and 156 00:10:19.440 --> 00:10:23.559 moved to Milwaukee with Michael, and he did find out, 157 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:26.519 she did find out that he was married and had 158 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:30.080 three daughters, and she was willing to walk away. She 159 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.080 said she wasn't going to destroy the marriage, but you know, 160 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:37.240 obviously he was already an adulterer. And he said, oh, well, 161 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:42.799 I'm divorcing her. I want you so he did divorce 162 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:47.519 his wife, and when the girls came to visit in Indianapolis, well, 163 00:10:47.559 --> 00:10:50.039 Cindy would drop everything, no matter what she was doing, 164 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.440 she would drop everything, and she would spend time with 165 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.440 the girls and she would take them shopping and two 166 00:10:55.480 --> 00:11:00.200 events and just dedicate her whole time to them. But 167 00:11:00.519 --> 00:11:03.360 he did not. They were his daughters, but you know, 168 00:11:04.440 --> 00:11:08.279 he didn't want them to inconvenience him, so he just 169 00:11:08.759 --> 00:11:11.440 did his own thing and let Cindy take care of 170 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:17.039 the girls. Socially, he was with the Dick Simon team. 171 00:11:17.200 --> 00:11:19.960 The Dick Simon team was not the star in the 172 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:23.000 East at the Indy five hundred or any Indy car circuit. 173 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:25.360 He was a lower rated team, but he was the 174 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:29.879 chief mechanic and he made a good salary. Seventy five 175 00:11:29.919 --> 00:11:33.080 thousand a year, you know, back in the early nineties 176 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:41.639 was a huge salary, and he was jealous Cindy. Cindy's 177 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:46.639 friends Becca and Sandy started taking Cindy under their wing. 178 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.039 She was kind of a plane jane. She wore you know, 179 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:55.360 men's shirts and jeans and basically she wore her clothes 180 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.679 to cover her and they said, no, you should wear 181 00:11:58.679 --> 00:12:01.840 beautiful clothes and they they taught her to wear beautiful 182 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:04.840 clothes and to do her hair and her makeup, and 183 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.480 she just brightened up and got some self esteem, which 184 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:12.559 did not go well with her husband because he basically 185 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:17.360 wanted to control her. So Marlboro Kinsky had a lot 186 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.600 of money and a lot of huge events, and he 187 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.679 started saying, I can't go. I work for Dick Simon. 188 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:26.440 It's against the rules, which was not true. But whenever 189 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:29.000 there was an event, everybody else went with their spouse 190 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:32.919 and she had to go alone because he was controlling 191 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:37.080 like that and was just passive aggressive. You know, I'm 192 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:38.759 going to make sure you don't have a good time 193 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:45.720 because I'm not that kind of attitude. So she would 194 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.519 go by herself, and she was still, you know, bright 195 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:50.919 and smartly, and she never let on that anything was 196 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:55.600 bothering her. Occasionally she would show up with bruises and 197 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.399 other team members would say, you know, is he hurting you? 198 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:00.720 And she'd say no, no, no, no, no, hundred times, 199 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:03.799 but it was obvious that he was mentally abusing her 200 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:09.279 and she was afraid of him, and he would he 201 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:12.080 would come by their area to talk to her, and 202 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:16.320 everybody would just stiffen up. Because he was a mean person. 203 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:21.320 I mean he even abused other racers or other mechanics 204 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.200 so and talk down to them. So anytime the girl 205 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.320 were together and he came around, she would signal, no, 206 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:31.039 you can't talk about this, No you can't talk about that. 207 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.240 You can't talk about us having fun because he wouldn't 208 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.559 like it. Yeah, did that answer your question. 209 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:39.600 Yeah. 210 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:45.159 The she had an operation in nineteen eighty nine, and 211 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:49.159 this will become important later for our listeners. Tell us 212 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:52.879 what that operation was to correct in nineteen eighty nine. 213 00:13:53.960 --> 00:13:58.039 Okay, so she had a severe case of TMJ, which 214 00:13:58.080 --> 00:14:01.840 means her jobs were missaligned. And this is a very 215 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:06.399 painful condition. So Cindy grew up in a lot of pain. 216 00:14:06.759 --> 00:14:14.600 This misalignment causes severe headaches, neck aches, trouble with chewing. 217 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:20.639 It just it's unbearable sometimes the pain. People get migraines 218 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.320 from it. And she just had to endure it because 219 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:26.559 her parents were alcoholics, they were poor, they couldn't do 220 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:29.840 anything about it, and she just had to tough it out, 221 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.039 you know, pain or no pain, you know, she went 222 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:35.399 to work whether she felt like it or not, and 223 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:40.240 she just endured it. But in eighty nine she had 224 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:44.279 a surgery. It's called, I think a La fort astotomy 225 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:48.039 if I can remember correctly to correct that. And the 226 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:53.360 jawbone was rebuilt with a cadaver jaw and titanium and 227 00:14:53.720 --> 00:14:56.480 put together so that she quit having all that pain, 228 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:59.480 and it aligned her jaw and it made her more beautiful. 229 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:05.360 And Michael claimed that he paid, depending on who tells 230 00:15:05.399 --> 00:15:09.399 the story, anywhere from twenty five to forty thousand dollars 231 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.080 for this surgery. Of course, other people say no, it 232 00:15:13.159 --> 00:15:15.159 was covered by insurance, and he just said that to 233 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:20.039 make himself look good. But it was a very life 234 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:24.080 transforming surgery as far as her personal comfort, her parents, 235 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:28.120 and her happiness. He, as I said, took full credit, 236 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:31.399 but a number of people seriously doubt that he ever 237 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:33.639 paid anything for that surgery. 238 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:43.440 Oh, really interesting, now, what aspects of their relationship, even 239 00:15:43.480 --> 00:15:46.120 though you write that Cindy was not a person to 240 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:49.960 bring a certainly not to bring anything to work any 241 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:53.240 kind of her problem marital problems to work, and she was, 242 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:56.919 as you write, had a strained relationship with her parents 243 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.440 that was just healing. You say her mother was alcoholic 244 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:05.440 and the relationship with her father was shaky. You talked 245 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:11.240 about what she confided in Sandy and Becky? 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No purchase necessary void We're prohibited by Law 293 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:57.119 eighteen plus. Terms and conditions apply see website for details. 294 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:04.240 Absolutely, But you talk about access to that apartment, how 295 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:08.279 far it is from where she was living with Michael, 296 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.680 but also about the cats, the situation with the cats 297 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:14.079 and the key. Tell us about that. 298 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.000 Oh, sure, the apartment was just like five minutes away 299 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:20.960 from her former home, and it was a second floor 300 00:19:21.000 --> 00:19:25.480 apartment backed against a lot where you could look out 301 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:27.880 and see trees. But there was a supermarket on the 302 00:19:27.880 --> 00:19:32.039 other side. And she kept the cats, Billy and Willie. 303 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.640 They both loved the cats, so she gave him a 304 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.599 key so that when she was out of town he 305 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:40.680 could come and take care of the cats. However, he 306 00:19:40.759 --> 00:19:43.839 came and took care of the cats and started prying 307 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:48.039 into her personal mail and her personal business and raising 308 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:50.680 Cain about things he saw that he thought were suspicious. 309 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:52.839 She would get a card from a friend and he 310 00:19:54.279 --> 00:19:58.519 growled that something was going on and obviously get very 311 00:19:58.559 --> 00:20:01.799 severe with her. A number of people had seen him 312 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:05.359 yelling at her and making her cry, and she still 313 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:10.359 denied that anything was arrived with that situation except possibly 314 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.599 to back here and standing. So they knew, I mean, 315 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:16.319 they could sense and they could see that she was 316 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:20.119 doing everything she could to hide it. Everything as fine 317 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:23.519 as fine, But it came to the point that she 318 00:20:25.119 --> 00:20:27.880 could not allow him in her apartment, she could not 319 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:33.519 allow him access to her life, and she changed the law. However, 320 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:36.680 whenever she was home, she would open the back patio 321 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:39.559 door so the cats could look out, because she loved 322 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:44.440 the cats, but couldn't let them outside. They were inside cats. 323 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:50.119 Now, you take us to the situation in October of 324 00:20:50.200 --> 00:20:53.880 nineteen ninety two, and you take us to the final 325 00:20:54.000 --> 00:21:00.720 race and where Pete our pardoner at Pete's waite and 326 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:06.000 Cindy Meat and their relationship changes forever. But you also 327 00:21:06.039 --> 00:21:11.440 talk about, just preceding this, where Cindy's career is and 328 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:15.039 where Michael's career is at right at that time, and 329 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:17.960 then tell us about the October twelfth final race of 330 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:18.440 the season. 331 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:24.480 Okay, so the Indianapolis five hundred and nineteen ninety two. 332 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:29.640 Dick Simon was running two cars and he could barely 333 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.960 afford to run his team at all, and he did 334 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.799 not win anything in that race, and he ended up 335 00:21:36.839 --> 00:21:42.240 firing several mechanics, including Michael, So Michael was not making 336 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:46.599 seventy five thousand dollars anymore. He went to work for 337 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.559 another team where he was part time working one hundred dollars, 338 00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:54.000 making one hundred dollars a day as a man who 339 00:21:54.000 --> 00:21:57.359 had been a chief mechanic. So his job on the 340 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.200 Dick Simon team was if you ever watched the hit 341 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:03.599 crew and the guys come out to change the tires, 342 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:07.039 he always changed that left front tire. You know. He 343 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:10.119 was that guy that people keeped in on because it 344 00:22:10.200 --> 00:22:12.519 was the hardest to get into. So he was, you know, 345 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:15.640 mister chief mechanic, mister king, and then all of a 346 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:21.319 sudden he was the low life. Her career, Pennskive Course 347 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:26.200 was growing and doing better, and she had been to 348 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:29.759 visit Roger Pinski's yacht. The entire team went to visit 349 00:22:30.319 --> 00:22:32.160 and he had just asked her at the end of 350 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.559 the race season to come and be the chef on 351 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:38.720 his yacht. So this was a huge, huge promotion and 352 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:41.559 she would be able to go to Florida and you know, 353 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:44.359 be with her parents, and she was falling in love 354 00:22:44.400 --> 00:22:47.200 with Pete Twitty. They'd worked together for over a year, 355 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:52.119 nothing special between them until the end of the race season. 356 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:58.160 They were at Skeleton Lake in Canada and just they 357 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.400 literally fell in love. They were looking and get each 358 00:23:00.440 --> 00:23:05.400 other over the fire and literally connected as soulmates, and 359 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.359 uh they were. She was going to go to Florida. 360 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.440 She was going to live with Pete. She was going 361 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.240 to have a great relationship as soon as their divorce 362 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:17.160 was final. Her life was coming up, and she was 363 00:23:17.240 --> 00:23:19.319 going to work for Roger Penski's yacht and that was 364 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.279 that just made her happier than anything. 365 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:30.240 You said that there was a conversation between Pete and 366 00:23:30.240 --> 00:23:35.759 and Cindy and so and talking about that. He thought 367 00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:38.079 it was odd that she didn't want him to go 368 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:42.440 to Albuquerque and help her with the move. Tell us 369 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:44.200 about those details. 370 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.839 It was almost like she sent something and was protecting him. 371 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:53.480 Tete Twitty is an amazing man. I mean, when you 372 00:23:53.559 --> 00:23:56.319 when you read the book, you'll realize this guy he 373 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:01.200 was a giant in all ways, but he's also very 374 00:24:01.319 --> 00:24:05.279 very sensitive and he could sense something in her that 375 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.440 seemed dark. So when she went to go home, she 376 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:14.400 wouldn't let him drive her to the airport and she 377 00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:17.799 just kept saying, you know, don't worry, it's all going 378 00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:21.519 to be over. And he'd say, well, what is going on? 379 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.559 Is Michael going to come after me? Is he going 380 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:25.480 to come up behind me? Is he going to do something? 381 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.079 And she'd say, no, it's going to be okay. But 382 00:24:28.279 --> 00:24:32.319 he had this sense that something dark was going on. 383 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:34.799 He said it was the kind of sensitivity he had 384 00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:39.079 had since childhood, and he had a feeling that something 385 00:24:39.119 --> 00:24:41.960 was bad, and he wanted so badly to go with her, 386 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:46.799 and she kept refusing and saying, no, everything's fine, everything's great. 387 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:51.119 He didn't have a chance, and when he got home 388 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.839 to Flora, the first thing he did was start calling 389 00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:58.079 her and got no answer. It was too late. She 390 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.480 got home from the race and she was gone. But 391 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.720 he had a sensitivity that that was going to happen. 392 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.799 And she left the Allen's Er junior party, the Halloween party. 393 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:11.880 She was a party girl. She would have stayed till 394 00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.200 the last minute, but that night she said no, I 395 00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:17.119 just want to go to the hotel and be with you, 396 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.680 which is not like her at all, And so Pete 397 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:25.160 understood that something was very wrong, but she would not 398 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:26.000 talk about it. 399 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:31.960 Tell our audience about the details of the divorce that 400 00:25:32.200 --> 00:25:35.240 was to be final the twenty six and that as 401 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:39.319