Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Christ Almighty. We are recording this
much later into the night that than we normally do,
thanks to the after dark and considerate timing of a
certain prominent US rock band. But you are unbelow to
that you're hearing this is normal time. Thank you very much.
This is of course that's not metal. Thank you for
joining us, and we have a news episode to talk
to you about here on Hyperblast. As said, it was
a funny day putting the news together to this because
it was a little without the elephant in the room.
It was a little light, and I was like, am
I gonna have to? Like I was prepared to talk
about the bad omens Henti merch controversy, but then you know,
obviously the big band turned up. I'm like, yeah, so
our announcement is coming in the fucking middle of the
night in the UK, long after we will have normally recorded.
But after we spoke about, you know, the Derrek Whibley
situation last week, I was like, we can't fucking roll
over and wait another week to talk about this. So
we're pulling all lighter here. We're arriving here to talk
to you about all the other news that's going on
as well, So gear up for all that. My name's
Paren Hayish here on. That's long metal with me Saint
Cruise last week, as we kind of alluded to, Sam,
Dignon and Mark are here in the dead of night.
How are we doing?
Speaker 2: Time zones are my enemy now, but I'm staying up
late because I'm dedicated to rock.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a lot of how I'm doing is
just kind of like dictated by what I've just watched
and the sort of the feelings has stirred up in me.
And we'll get into that. But yeah, like, yeah, some
old times. What's waiting a little more? You're here for
that next bit. I'm going to talk to you about
some random cult new over British heavy metal first up front,
because that's how we do this up yours. I would
see Satan this week, the big man himself. Satan are
new over British heavy metal cult legends. If you go
delving into some of the best bands from that brief
little era, you know, past the obvious level of your
iron Maidens, particularly then on the more kind of devilish
end of you know, your Angel Witch in which Finder
General's etc. Satan are right there. They released an album
called Court in the Act, which is one of Mark
and I's favorite album titles of all time, isn't it?
Speaker 2: And one of our favorite albums.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Uh, if you like you know gems from that time,
you will not find many better examples than that album. Mark,
you regularly wear a Court in the Act shirt, right.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm I'm off to see Satan tomorrow. They're
a big part of my.
Speaker 1: Life, yes, but they are there maybe one of the
kind of top examples of like one of those bands
who are like still doing really well in the They
sorry Saxon, but they're like twenty thirteen reunion album Life
Sentence is one of the best albums released by any
of those bands in the New millennium, and all the
album since are good. They have this really like frenetic, acrobatic,
shreddy rift style, which is super cool and distinctive. Gotta
be one of the one of those bands who are
like most bleeding into like thrash and speed metal because
they've got pace. And then there's the odd riff where
you go like, yeah, that's Exodus, Like the song Devil's
Infantry they played, It's like, shit, that's a fucking power
trick riff or something. Brian the singer. His voice is
in really good shape. He's got like a strong kind
of mid range that has aged really well. But there's
also a lot of like ha, which you know is
a note that I can't hit. And I'm considerably less
than seventy. I liked the first two songs. He was
just drinking water like a normal person, and then a
crew member scuttled out with just an entire bottle of Yaeger.
Like what changed that moment?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Is thirds on the set? You bring that out for me?
A lot of like that someone's granddad stage banter, like
remember man in the eighties, and like he randomly declared
in the middle of what a big fan of doctor
who he is? Which your kind of guy? Mark?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck, Yes, Whovians are everywhere.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you know settlers were basically caught in the
act songs some slightly older than that songs, and then
lots of stuff from the reunion period, which, like I said,
it's all good and it all sounded bloody good. Mark.
As you say you're off to see him tomorrow, you're excited.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. There is the same night as niall
and SeeU Space Cowboy. In the fact that I'm not
too gutted about that class says a lot about how
maniacally fanatic that's a guy, random ass band as.
Speaker 1: A guy who's dedicated to Satan. Yeah, really really enjoyable night.
If you, as said, if you are interested in kind
of finding more of some of the best bands from
like the new wave of British heavy metal era, then
Satan I said, both, you know, the classic period and
the current period both well worth ago and a very
fun and you know, lively in the live environment as well.
So there you go. Let's move on to the big
blood news, which obviously the reason we are here, you know,
in the dead of night doing this is Lincoln Park's
roll out, which started fucking more than a week ago
with the countdown and count up. I don't know if
you guys thought that the music video for the new
song that they've put out spoilers, but there was you know,
when you watch a video on YouTube that's premiering and
it has like the little number countdown. They had a
troll count that where it went down and then it
hit zero, and then it went up one, two, three,
and then the video came in, but I was like,
are you doing another one? You cheeky fuckers? But I don't. Yeah,
I'd barely know where to start with this because you
guys were all seen the news. We have just watched
it kind of player in real time. Lincoln Park are back.
They have officially got back together and reunited. They have
a new singer. Obviously, of course, we all know the
reason they have not been around is passing Chester Bennington.
Filling in that position in the band is Emily Armstrong
from the band Dead Sarah Dead, Sarah Dead Sarah. I think, yes,
who are a band I have prior to this never
at all had any real attention or dalliance with I
kind of I listened to their big song weather Man
after this, and I thought, well, this is what I
kind of expected it to be, which is kind of like,
you know, a kind of generic radio rock band. Basically, Sam,
you said that you've seen them before.
Speaker 3: I've seen them twelve years ago opening for Twin Atlantic,
the only time they ever free. It was like the
only time they ever came to the UK, I think,
and yeah, like I remember Fliger there though they were
like fine, like you know, in terms of kind of
what like us rock music could be, and then they
just kind of disappeared off.
Speaker 4: My radar forever.
Speaker 3: And then then like twelve years later, twelve years like
who knows. Like I said, one day you could be
opening for Twin Atlantic. Twelve years later, you could be
asked to be the new singer of Lincoln Park. Don't
give up your dreams, kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because there was a there were rumors
going for a while that Lincoln Park were going to
get a female singer, and I'd forgotten whether the rumors
came from. And then again I was looking back over
the timeline and I remember if the singer from Orgie
several months ago was like, yeah, I heard Lincoln parker
rehearsing with a girl, because I can't believe Orgie man
that had the gossip of everyone else. But yeah, Emily
Armstrong from Dead Sarah is the new front person of
Lincoln Park who came out with a big live stream
event which we have just finished watching, premiering a you know,
premiering their new singer and playing an entire you know set,
opening with a new song, as it turns out, but
also then playing a set full of you know, many
tried and trude, you know, Lincoln Park classics and really
surreal experience, isn't it watching that happen in front of me.
I'm glad they did that rather than just having like
an announcement like For as much as the actual roll
out of the announcement was at times very frustrating, doing
it the way they did, I think certainly made it
a bit more of a more tangible to get your
head around, but also again kind of more special.
Speaker 4: It made it feel like a proper event, not kind
of like some like press release, press.
Speaker 3: Announcement all we're back and here's a tour and we're
gonna take all your money, all of that sort of stuff.
This felt was kind of like they building through this,
like all these teasers and all this nonsense, but then
actually having a proper payoff at the end of it.
Of this this live show that like, I don't know,
I've always just going to like a first and first
serve thing or what everyone was for like their you know,
bang club or whatever to have a go in there,
but playing to an audience, playing a opening a brand
new song, so you're going straight out there like with
a new material and then kind of going and you know,
we can still whack out like all of these absolute
mega hits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, when it comes to reunions, if they
come straight out the gate with new music attached, I'm
already just way warmer to them. So the fact that
but literally the first thing you're hearing with this new
singer is new material is really it's really reassuring that
this isn't just a nostalgia play. This isn't just a
like we're gonna sort of be around but not really.
Speaker 4: The fact that just Lincoln Park karaoke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they're dedicated to this. They're a real band again,
that is you know, I grew up in the two thousands.
It's nice to have Lincoln Park around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we are going to talk about, you know, the
new music and all the concrete announcements of what's going
to be happening and so on in a little bit,
but just in general, the act of you know, we've
just watched a live set essentially right, which gives us
again from last week. I basically knew that we'd be
coming on here, we'd be talking most likely about a
new linkin Park singer. I did not know that we
were going to have new music. I did not know
that we'd have had a whole live performance to watch
and judge. So before again we go and talk about
the new single and everything. Just watching the act of
Linkin Park play again with you know, a new singer
in that role, how did they make you feel?
Speaker 3: I mean, for me, they are one of the most
important bands in shaping my music taste. Like getting into
rock music in the sort of two thousands, I was
kind of hit by the sawful of like kind of
this surreal feeling of like, oh fuck, this is this
is actually have Linker Park play again. And it was
once the you know, so they did the new song,
I was like cool. And then they started to roll
out like the hits and I was like cool, okay,
And when they got to like crawling and then kind
of few things from there, and I was like, yeah, cool,
this is actually like Lincoln Park being back properly. I mean,
hell of a first show for to Like, like I
remember her promence. You could tell she was like shitting
bricks at points of it. I think, because like she's
obviously done a bunch of sure, like this is the
biggest show she'll probably ever play in terms of significant she.
Speaker 1: Is taking on one of the most unenviable jobs maybe
anyone has ever had in the world of rock music.
And like, you know, it's enviable in the sense that
she's going to be paid a lot and she's going
to be fucking extremely famous and whatever, but in terms
of having that amount of eyes on you, having that
amount of judgment coming your way before you get even
get into you know, I don't really want to, you know,
put too much stock in it, but the gender politics
or whatever of you know, what might be coming that
that kind of direction. Just in general, she is in
one of the hardest fucking positions and coming out for
that first show not knowing if anyone is behind you yet.
It's yeah, it's a ballsy performance.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm like, Like, she'll play bigger shows in
terms of Scalvelinger part now, but I think in terms
of important and then this is like this will all
have been like the most positive probably in a place
it's like here, I am I am.
Speaker 1: Even passing supporting to an Atlantic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I am.
Speaker 3: You know that I'm replacing or like I am stepping
into the shoes of chest a beating to who is
a vocalist to people adored and shaped so many sort
of people's concept of like metal could be and all that,
and yeah, it is a hard thing to sort of
like do, but I think I think she's shown she
could be ready for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah she sounds good, like.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: I'm someone who has watched the Chester Bennington Tribute concert
a lot, so like that, most of my Lincoln Park
listening over the last few years has been with other
singers on and it took me a while to sort
of like get out of the headspace of this is
sort of a karaoke thing and realizing, oh, this is
the future of this big band, and once it's sort
of sank in around sort of like numb crawling time it.
You know, it's hard not to get swept up in
these songs, like you hear what I've done with a
voice like that, a powerhouse singer. It just sounds amazing
and it's exciting. And you know, I didn't really think
about the gender politics thing because it's such a dumb
thing to even think about. But I guess it does exist.
I mean fair play to where I hope the fan
base is accepting.
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I mean again because we will watch
it on like a YouTube live stream, and then you've
got the comment scrolling and you know, let's be real,
the vast people who comment those things are unintelligent, so stupid.
But it's you know, it was just a constant scrolling
by mix of like, yes, she's amazing, Yes, she's amazing,
how you know that's all support the band whatever, and
then like no, it's not Lincoln Park, it's not linking
part with that Chester, this is bad whatever. You know,
it just constant, both sides just warring up the side
of my screen for the last hour. They've made Lincoln
Park wolf exactly.
Speaker 4: That pronouns.
Speaker 1: Next, Oh my god, well like Lincoln pronouns. But yeah, the.
Speaker 2: What a good one.
Speaker 1: Sorry, this wasn't the direction I was expecting this conversation
to go in. But yeah, I mean in a way
like you know, you swap out the words Lincoln Park
and that exact conversation has gone by for tons of
bands before, whether it's fucking like suicide silence.
Speaker 2: Or asking Alexandria.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just watching the performance, I did think again, it
took him oment to get my head around. She came out,
and I again, maybe it was a nurse thing. I thought.
The first few songs when she was doing the kind
of more like the vocal fry stuff, the screaming kind
of singing that Chester did, I was thinking, oh, it's
kind of strange. I think it was around Crawling, which
crawling must be an unbelievably difficult song to sing like
that's particular song. I just think about the intensity of
the vocal on the chorus and how much like ah
there is on what is an extremely like you know,
clearly melodic song, right, and that's fucking one in a
million shit that Chester could just do that night of
the night and replicating that is fucking hard. And I
was thinking, is she trying to force it a little
bit too much, trying to put on as much as
that like vocal for her as possible. I don't know,
But again, maybe it was just my ears settling in,
or maybe she was settling in. But by the latter
half of the set, I was thinking, this is good,
like one Step Closer, and all those songs were good.
Speaker 3: Numb into One Step Closer. I think she really settled in.
And then from then on to the end, I think like,
I've think really like none once again, and then you're like,
what I've done? And I don't know it's because you're
just dropping a run of songs that I hold so
dearly that I was just.
Speaker 4: Gonna get swept up in them.
Speaker 3: But I was like, no, No, I think she is sort
of really found her fitting on these on these songs
in particular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it shows in part like just
how difficult it is to get anyone to do what
Chester could do, and the fact that they've found someone
who even remotely can kind of approach it and somewhat
comfortably slip into it is it's about if you're going
to decide to move forward, right, it's about as good
a choice as anywhere, because finding a you know, a
Chester analog is very fucking difficult. And the fact that
it was again like an admirable, proper live performance again
coming out with that intensity of again eyes on it
and the nerves that must have been going on, knowing
the amount of eyes that are going to be there,
but it was all real, you know, and you could
pick up on the human inconsistencies of it. I think
again just kind of add to the whole thing again,
going into the whole thing happening the from you know,
last week, and I think we've all suspected now that linkpup,
we're going to come back with a new singer. The
analog that I had in my mind before seeing it
and before hearing the new song was kind of Queen
with Adam Lambert, Like that was what I thought it
was going to be, right, like a big legacy show
with a singer who could you know, whoever they picked,
they probably pick someone who does a very good, you know,
Chester kind of slip in job. And you know, I
never saw the Queen Adam Lambert shows, but everyone who
did seems to say they were good. And it didn't
know it negatively impact Queen's kind of standing in the
world in any way, but to a degree. It's also
like I think now they haven't done it in a while.
Love there Now it's almost like it's been sort of
memory hold a bit. That was what I thought this
was going to be at first. But yeah, we have
more than that, because we do have everything. I mean,
for a start, the fact that they did this whole
like set of songs and they went into Somebody when
they were waiting for the end with Hell that song
is nonsense. Like I was like, I can't believe I'm
watching the big fucking you know, the big live stream
to celebrate you know, the returning link apart with the
new thing or everything, and you're doing this like stupid
reggae song.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just glad because, like, in terms of
like set lists, first four albums, the good four albums,
I'm a thousand sons of defender. I was happy to
see that that song, in particular that album get a
bit of red. And then they ignored the free afterwards,
which a not very good.
Speaker 1: Hunting parties better than wait, dozand Sons anyway, Wait, waiting
for the end was crap. Anyway, they did open with
a new song and just picking up what Mark was
saying before that, I agree, I because we all expected
them to come back. I didn't expect them to have
an album in hand, you know. I thought it would
be like a you know, we come out, here's a
new singer. Maybe after a year or whatever. You know,
see how it goes, how most things like this tend
to go. And if they hadn't done that, I think
to a degree, the good will would have carried them,
right because you and view a lot of like, yeah,
you know, take as much time as you need kind
of situation, putting their money where their mouth is and
like coming out with something immediately. I respect that. Yeah,
and uh, not only just having that thing about the
opening with with with the track on it, I suppose
we should talk about the new song, the Emptiness Machine.
And I again, my first time hearing the song was
watching the live room and then playing. And I've then
gone back and I've listened to this version after that
that set. But here in the moment with that song,
I was like, ooh, okay, because you know, I think
they've obviously it was very well structured for the context
of the set it was in. In that Mike sings
like the first sort of minute and a half or whatever,
and then it's kind of structured so that Emily Yeah,
like rise of about the station appears there. But I,
I mean, let's be wal, it's better than what Lincoln
Park were last doing when they were around, right, Like
that much is absolutely true. I am a I'm probably
the least invested in Link Park out of the three
of us. I do like Lincoln Park at their best.
I have a fondness for them that I think most
people in our world do. I am really taken aback
at how much. I like this song not only the
immediate like get your head around factor of them having
a new singer in the mix, but the fact that, like,
I haven't been invested in Lincoln Park for a long
fucking time any again. I like the Hunting Party record.
I think there's with good tracks you know that were
kind of clapped back to old school Lincoln Parks or
of style tracks on that. So this is like immediately right,
it's the best linkin Parks on in at least ten years,
if not more.
Speaker 3: I mean on like immediate listen, Like again, I like
one thousand Sons. I think Hungry Party has got some
stuff on there, a sum that to me a while
to get into. This is the most kind of like
immediately I've kind of gone, oh, I like a Lincoln
Park song since probably like New Divide, like going way
back to sort of like because that's the last thing
a part and I remember hearing it first and going oh,
I love this, and then you know, A Thousand Suns
took a while to come round to.
Speaker 4: I really like that now.
Speaker 3: But this is when I've gone just immediately gone like oh,
this is if I was to pitch what I would
want Lincoln Park coming back in twenty twenty four to
sound like it's this, It's it's got all you know,
the big kind of pop melodies that they always had.
It isn't you know, the most raging, hard hit song ever.
But that's second verse with the like after the first course,
with a band kicking properly, and then she comes in
on the vocals and it actually goes like Lincoln Park
haven't gone in again, you probably say, since the Hunting Party,
But even then, I feel this feels more authentic, more
like it doesn't feel it's kind of like all we're
throwing back. It feels just kind of like what modern
Lincoln Park should sound like.
Speaker 1: Low bar for like, you know, such enormously huge mainstream
bands as well, but like the production doesn't sound like
shit in like you know, could Lincoln Park. I mean,
you know, with Blink Twenity two, right blink, when at
two released a record that we're in the end, we're like,
this has a handful of like really good songs on it,
and they've played great live shows or whatever. But when
that first blank Whenitty two single came out, we went,
oh my god, why the fuck does it sound like this?
And you know, obviously it's Lincoln Park. Production is not
like mega heavy or whatever. But like it sounds like
you want Lincoln part of the sound, it doesn't. It's
not like, you know, Lincoln Park coming back with some
awful TikTok thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a very comfy song. It's very
warm and sort of nostalgic in a way, but not
really necessarily in a bad way, because I don't like,
I don't want to stadium band try and like tick
doc shit like you say, And I really like the song.
I think the chorus on it is really big and
sort of coming at it after years and years and
years of every metalcore band trying to write Lincoln Park
choruses and this being better than like anything from I
don't know they bring Me the Horizon album from this
year is really reassuring and just it sort of reminds
you why Lincoln Park are the daddies of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of shockingly good. It should be worth
noting as well that there is another lineup change. Rob
the drummer, long timely about drummer elected not to come
back for this. I think he just kind of, you know,
drifted away from the band in their kind of hiatus.
He'd been replaced by Colin Briton or Britain. Do you
know who is worth noting is the producer of a
Data Members album You're Welcome, So that could be a
fly in the ointsman. But the single, the studio version
that we've been presented with, shows that they've at least
gone around that particular thing. Yeah, like I thought this
sounded good on the live performance, and then it's always
a thing of like, okay, you go back to the
studio version, does it still sound good there? And it did?
And yeah, the chorus, you know, it seems to be
and it's not like a it's not a like, oh
this is about Chester and about returning and here's a
song called like Aftermath or Phoenix or something. Right, it
seems to be like a social media song, Like it's
like the opening line it's like flashing your favorite point
of view or something. It's not very deep. It's linkin
Park doing a social media song. But the chorus it
made me feel linkin Park things that I haven't felt
in as I say, like at least ten years, and
I wasn't really prepared.
Speaker 3: Was the Meteora Lost song like that was a kind
of the other one you sort of say, is like,
because that's an old on that made me feel that,
but you go, that's not song. This actually as a
written in twenty twenty four. Whenever song, that chorus, it's
a proper Lincoln Park chorus.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so coming out of this, not only am I going, yeah,
Lincoln Park have a new singer, Let's give them the
benefit of the doubt, and let's you know whatever. I'm
coming at this going I am more interested in a
Lincoln Park album than I was pretty much ever expecting
to be, which is, yeah, a very very curious thing
and pretty cool. Again, I'm not saying I've fully made
my mind up on the singer or whatever, but like,
that's a great fucking song. There is also a world
tour consisting of six states, which I think at this
stage is fine. They will do more, but just the
initial comeback thing. They are doing six shows across the
entire world, right cities like bog Guitar and Soul. They
are playing the two in London in about three weeks time.
It's worth noting, like how many other bands in our
world could turn up and go, yeah, we'll play the
O two in three weeks, and we trust it's going
to sell the tickets.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna that's gonna go. That's gonna go in
a second, Like getting to his hat is gonna impossible.
Goodluck to anyone trying. I'm jealous, but you know that's crazy.
I didn't realize it was so soon. Good for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we should also mention the album is
called from Zero, which I think is a you know,
I was really got a patron them and they mentioned
that their band name prior to linkin Park was zero
with an X, and then obviously it also relates to
kind of rebuilding the band up from from from from
where they were. But the album from Zero is gonna
be out on November the fifteenth, so I guess we
might be able to cram it into our like final
review show of the year before we go on to
all the end of view stuff that we do here.
But yeah, linkin Park are officially back with a new singer,
new song, new album. I think you know, some of
that we expected. Some of that is like a really
I would say, quite nice surprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely definitely.
Speaker 2: I like you say, I was expecting Queen featuring our
Lambert and instead we've got no Alison Chains.
Speaker 1: Well, we can only hope at this stage, but yeah,
fucking hell wow, right, let us quickly as we can
fly through the rest of the news that's going on.
I'm not going to mention the bad omens Hen Tai
controversy again from here. I'm going to very quickly mention
the fact that Pinhead Gunpowder are back, which you may
know if you are like a hardcore Green Day fan.
Billy Joe Armstrong sort of side project band who released
like a couple of albums in like the late nineties,
very bizarrely and arbitrarily coming back with a new album
that's called and That's gonna be out on October the fifteenth,
and they've released a new single from that, which is
the you know, first Pinhead Gunpowder material in quite a
long time. And I can't remember the name of the
other project he did, but the long shot there, you go, say,
Billy Armstrong every now and then he comes out with
something that's outside of Green Day and a bunch of
people go, wow, this is the best thing Billy Joe
Armstrong has done in twenty five years. And he listened
to it, and you go like, well, it sounds like
Billy Joe Armstrong.
Speaker 4: I think it's a really nice song. I really like it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I listen to it and I go, well,
it's better.
Speaker 4: Than anyone on the last Green Day album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't really listen to pin pin Head
Gunpowder very actively. I don't think i'd really listened to
them since when we did like the Green Day Special
and TNM, like many years ago. So I went back
and refreshed myself with like a couple of songs that
i'd like saved on Spotify from those like nineties Pinhea
Gunpowdered album. I was like, cool, yeah, nice getting to
the vibe with it, and then I queued up this
song and immediately to the back I was like, it's
just not as hard, is it? And it's like it's
it's obvious. I know that's to be expected, but like
in terms of the intensity, if this is the Pinhadunpowder albums,
they are like, you know, obviously in the context of
what they are, but it's like pretty kind of at it,
sort of late nineties, you know, brash kind of pop
punk to a degree, whereas this, I thought, I can
tell that this is the same man who is writing
these current Green Day albums, and if you like these
current green Day albums, that's probably not a problem for you.
But I was like, yeah, it's just not as intense,
Like his vocal style doesn't have that kind of like
bark to it that it used to. The strumming on
the guitar is kind of looser, and I agree with you, Sam,
Like nothing about this turned me off in an intense way,
like you know, the worst bits of any modern Green
Day album. But I still I was like, well, it's
just got that sort of like vaguely happy, go lucky
rock and roll jolliness that I just don't care about. Yeah,
Green Day, So I thought, well, that's an okay song
that I will immediately forget about, like all those long
shot ones or whatever.
Speaker 4: It was all just a bit too nice for me.
Like I don't think it was bad.
Speaker 3: But it was just kind of like, yeah, cool Billy
Drumstrong doing what he does, sounding the same but maybe
just slightly less. I don't know if it's because it
was maybe just a slightly more like and like where
it doesn't found sounds like horribly like protalled and like
sure tweaked.
Speaker 4: With like the Green albums do that.
Speaker 3: It's sounded a bit more authentic, but it just it
was like fine, like, yeah, it's a happy go lucky
rock song.
Speaker 4: Cool. I can't really remember anything else about it at
the moment.
Speaker 2: Like play me any song that sounds like the Ramons
are like a power pop thing, and I'll just go
with it, Like that stupid Offspring song we talked about.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but even you didn't like the Green Day
album right.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's rubbish, but this one at least has
a bit more pep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this song fair enough. And like I said, that
was gonna be like if we don't get Lincoln parking
time at least as a new Pinhead Gunpowder song, whoaho?
And on that front, if we didn't have Lincoln Park
reunion news in time, Mark made a very valid point
whereas like if Lincoln Park come out with a new
singer and a new song and everything, and we are
here having recorded earlier and we're going well as it
is a back everyone, we would look like absolute fools.
But this reunion is baffling because it was being teased right.
It was around the time the Oasis were coming back
and they were like, oh, you know, they were planting
their seeds, and I was like, wait a minute, we
only just reported on you guys leaving, and we had
to check when, as it is, had broken up, and
I thought, yeah, last year, fucking January. January of this year,
as it is, we're out, And Patty Walters was like, yeah,
music isn't really a part of my life anymore. Nine
months later, not even that less than a pregnancy later,
as it is, are officially reunited. How are you guys
feeling about this?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm positively lactating at the gob who fucking cares?
Speaker 4: Like like, I don't care.
Speaker 3: But I'm also like, when we go into the next
part of the news, if he's into being one of
the few things on.
Speaker 4: That lineup that I'm like, I'd go watch that.
Speaker 3: Actually, so I can't really, I've got no legs to
stand on, but stay away from like give out basement
in basement Like this puts.
Speaker 1: All those brick rock bands a change, the way I
always complain, the way like Mallory Knock the weever goes
away for two years. Fucking hell, at least there's an
official calendar between like that and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were gone from good like for a decent
amount of time for that, you know, come crawling back
as it is, couldn't even give us a year.
Speaker 2: I mean to refer to them like dial Tones, I'll
give them that. They can they can do whatever the
fuck they want. Dial Tones is massive.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as you said earlier, the announcement of
them playing Never Happy ever After in full you were like,
that means as much to me as if it just
said dial Tones in full Yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Yes, Like, there are two songs on the album that
I think are like two of the best pop punk
songs of the twenty tens, and they are like the
only things as it is, ever did.
Speaker 4: That was worthwhile, so you know, yeah, better a lot
of pop punk bands.
Speaker 1: So that will lead us into the next bit that
has said, which is that slam Dunk have announced a
significant portion of their lineup for next year's events twenty
twenty five. It is being headlined by A Day to Remember.
The bill also features Alkaline Trio as it is doing
Never Happy Ever After, Delilah, Bond, Dream State, Electric Core Boy,
Graphic Nature, Hot Mulligan, Hit the Lights, knuckle Puck, who
are playing Copoesetic? What's that saying? Mouth culture mouth culture movements,
Neck deep Less than Jake, Straight from the Path, Split
Cha Newfound Glory, The Atari's the starting line they used,
and zebra Head plus a whole bunch more. I always
got to end on zebra Head. I feel like the
US are close. They used. They've got to be there
every other fucking year.
Speaker 4: Anyway, they aren't because they keep pulling out.
Speaker 1: That's why they keep appearing. Then, fair enough, Big slam
Dunk announcement. I guess you know a data Remember. Shockingly,
this is I think the first time that they've headlined it,
which feels incredibly bizarre because.
Speaker 4: There's something they've ever played it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you just showed me that, I didn't
think anything of it because I was like, yeah, there's
a slam Dun band like that's they are so heavily
ingrained in that scene in general as a lineup what
we were kind of having a discussion about this, and
I was I was slightly surprised by some of your
answers and Mark as well, like slam Dunk is one
of the handful of festivals that you would sort of
like semi regularly attend. So I'll ask you first, and
I got just Sam, what's it? What would this attract
you back for lander.
Speaker 2: There's a New Phone Gloria there, so I'm at least
I sort of have to be interested in going.
Speaker 1: And that's true.
Speaker 2: That's sort of home. My brain is wired.
Speaker 1: Colin Tree as good as well, isn't it.
Speaker 2: I'll climb trial less than Jake. You know what, when
I do look at it, there's lots of shit there.
I do really like, Yeah, I did to remember you
put them in front of me. I'm going to have
the best time as it is, or play dial tones
all love that.
Speaker 4: I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need at least one more like slam Dunk.
Mark loves this band band to be nice before I
properly go think about going. But I don't know. Maybe
New Phone Glory will play some shows around there and
I can go to those instead.
Speaker 1: So, Sam, what's your take on slam Dunk, Because this
got announced and I looked at it and I went like, yeah,
that's a like if you asked me to put together
a slam Duck line. Obviously that wouldn't be the exact
selection of bands I would do, but that's you know,
that's roughly in the ballpark of what slam Dunk does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I don't think this is a bad loan.
Speaker 3: But it's also like there was more on the much
more line slammer lineup for this year just gone that
I would look at, and that's more exciting than what
they've booked here. To me, this song is kind of
like there is there's not a draw on there from
me at the moment, Like I'll go watch our Plan Trio.
Speaker 4: But they are, you know, fifty to fifty live.
Speaker 1: They were really good this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's thing is like I've seen them twice
in the last couple of years. They've been amazing, they've
been terrible, like like, so that's thing, Like they've booked
probably the only other metalcore band worse than I prevailed
to book as you're like big top field heavy band
in fucking electric call Boys.
Speaker 2: Oh, actually, maybe I do want to go. I forgot
they were.
Speaker 4: I'm like, since this gets some of my gruther is
that Slimer has given up on heavy music.
Speaker 3: It feels like and it's such like there's so much
cool shit that they could be drawing from. And again,
I'll see all those bands at Outbreak probably sure, but
I also want those bands to you know, play other stages,
play our festivals and kind of branch out, and it's
just a bumer that they're heavy music rappers and a
fucking electric call boy like and like graphic Naturehore, I
think are totally okay, straight from the path great they
they you know, they'll come along.
Speaker 4: They'll do the same straight from the path that they
do every time they play slam Dunk cool It.
Speaker 3: Just to me, I just don't see how this is
like this grand return to form that everyone's oh my god,
slam Nunk's good again. I'm like, it's more or less
the same. They've got the same arguably pasted it. I
would say more past it headliner than New Me at
six personally in a Day to Remember, I don't think
un at six on their sort of farewell run are
as embarrassing as Data Member on You're Welcome.
Speaker 1: But again I would say they're probably a much better
live band to Day to Remember. Still, here's the thing
about this. You were saying that there's more exciting last year.
Last year everything was absolutely pissed apart from like the
lowest stages. And maybe because this is like a first
roll out announcement where they're announcing the big guns bands,
maybe a lot of the stuff that would be on
those Lowes stages, which were the only things worth going
to this year is yet to come. So I think
in a way you're comparing a completely finished lineup that
at the top end was bad, but.
Speaker 3: They still had a lot of those good bands on
those first nailsments. They had like Ladispute and the Wonder
Years and the Interrupters like early on, and that was
the shit.
Speaker 1: Like maybe I'm just saying that. I don't think you
can completely compare the two lineups right now because the
way last year was so weirdly lopsided towards like the
bottom stages versus again a first big guns Out announcement.
I think they are two different things. Sure, I look
at this and I go, yeah, like I said to me,
it's not like the greatest lineup ever, but it's not
it's not actively embarrassing. You know, there are things on
here where I look at this and I don't have
that like insane recoiling of like why the fuck is
X band being you know, put that high up on
a stage the way you know, the Bloody we the
Kings scenarios and stuff from from from this year and
all that. There's less of that, And I look at
it and I go, like, yeah, it's not surprising. It's
not exciting if what you are counting is excited is like,
you know, big surprise bookings or whatever. But I do
look at it and I go, that is roughly what
I would expect slam dunk to be. And I think
this raises the question of like, how quote exciting can
a slam dunk lineup actually be in twenty twenty five
if they're pulling out again certified you know, big booking
bands like a Data Remember and Alkaline Trio and Electrical
Boy and Neck Deep and Newfound Glory, etc. And it's
considered kind of a miss. Who are the bands who
are actually supposed to be filling in those roles that
high up or whatever in those genres if not those guys,
I think to a degree it kind of points out
if you're looking for anything else, it's kind of more
a problem endemic to the scene than it actually is
the festival, because I look at that and I go,
if you are in the core demographic of liking slam
dunk music, there's probably a fair bit on this that
you would want to see, even if it's not like
blowing you out of the water.
Speaker 4: So I agree with.
Speaker 3: That, and that's what again, I don't think this is
a bad I just I for me, it was just
kind of like this weird like double tink of like,
oh so this is like the grand return to form.
Line of everyone's saying is like, oh, I'll go slamlunk
in this show. I'm like, it's kind of just a
lot of the the same things that I kind of
look at last I'm and go like, it's just slam
dunk stuff. It's very nostalgia heavy bookings. It's some embarrassing bands.
It's some bands who were once really great that aren't
very good anymore used and.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: To me, I'm I just like, I mean, there is
exciting ship slam like fucking get Rancid back. You tried
to put them a couple of years ago, Try and
get them back. Fucking a fire there a f I
could like play slam dunk, Like, come on, there are
like melodic punk bands there like that that are within
the kind of level that slam Dunk could draw from
that I think they could. They could book the art
and again, like I like only twenty four.
Speaker 4: Feelings on a day to remember aside.
Speaker 3: They are a a they are an appropriate headliner for
slam Dunk. They are as like typical or slam headline
as you could possibly get. For me, it was I
was like, oh, you know, there's there's neck Deep again,
and there's all these bands that played it last year
or the year before, and that is a problem with
the scene. I I agree with your kind of point
on that, but for me, I just I just didn't.
I didn't see the kind of need for this to
be like everyone be like, oh my god, slam Dunk's
great again, Let's go woo.
Speaker 2: Have you considered that that's the power of as it is?
Speaker 3: They're playing dial tones. They fucking played dal tones last
time I saw them. But I'm so bad about that.
Speaker 1: And not doing that absolutely fucking clown behavior. Yeah, I
think I probably won't be able to come to that
kind of judgment until we see like stage splits. Because
what you're saying about the heavy side and stuff, I agree,
And that's been you know, slam Dunk's weakness for several
years now. And I look back on the years though,
like literally last.
Speaker 3: Year, because the year before they we're looking like really
good heavy stuff and it just it's now, it's in
the last two years, it's gone to piss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, if we get like the Sland
up post, they would pull out where it has all
the bands and their little boxes of their stages. If
we look at like the heavy stage box and it's
weakers piss, And if we look at like you know,
the highest stage boxes and it's just full of like
crap nostalgia bookings while all the kind of contemporary bands
are like buried away somewhere, then yeah, I can agree
with you. But I think for a first batch of
like here's your big name bands, I don't think this
is complaint worthy, shall we say, from slam Dunk, because
it's a bunch of like safe steady hands and if
there is more to come then than great. If you
are looking for a festival experience one day festival in
May and you're not interested in seeing as it is
playing dial tones, maybe you lean more to the Incineration
festival side, where you could go to London and see
the band who are announced to be headlining at the
festival today, which is Tryptocon playing a Celtic frost set.
And I was basically already going to Incineration Festival because
myself and a certain friend of ours we have a
pact that basically, if Blooding Cantation got announced to play
a UK show anywhere we would go. They were the
very first announcement for Incineration. They're playing then upcoming album
in its entirety. But obviously this is like yeah, okay
on there. If you too are interested in Tripcon doing
Celtic Frost, I would probably predict then it will be
basically what it was at Bloodstock, where it was like
the first two albums and like the Empresor's return Epe
so basically nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty five. So
if you need to do some kind of revision listening
to prepare for this, no Cold Lake, no, no Cold Lake, shockingly,
But if you need to do some kind of as
I say, revision, then it's you know more Betales Emperor's
return to Mega theory on the early sort of thrashiers
Celtic Frost stuff. I do hold out hope that there
would be maybe not Cold Lake, but you know, expand
a little bit more. They are like this weekend, they
are performing a set in a fucking They're doing Prophecy
Festival in Germany in a fucking cave and they're doing
an into and they're doing it into the Pandemonium set.
So if that like livens up the juices a little
bit and they knock a little bit more in there,
I'd be very fucking pleased. But you know, it's nice
to see this stuff again. This is the first time
trip to coming out something and I'd be like, oh, yeah,
I can see that again, which is a very nice
and novel feeling, but yeah, a wicked stuff going on Insideration,
they've also announced, like in they're one of those specials
where they've kind of be announcing things like Banned by
Band one at a time, but in the last lit
several weeks they've also announced Black Braid, Conjurer, Undergang, Spectral, Wound,
lots of good stuff. Like I mentioned Blancantation as well,
So as said, if you're not interested in seeing a
data remember and neck deep, then you could come and
see Celtic Frost songs being performed by the Mighty Trip
to con. We also had news that Green Lung and
Unto Others are extending their kind of UK run of
dates they were doing into a full blown European tour.
I think it's worth noting that on the European poster,
Green Lung and Unto Others are equally built, so I imagine
it's like a co headline over there, whereas here Green
Lung seemed to have the mighty head start of being
the much bigger band over here, but the full Green
Lung to Others and Satan Satyrs on for the ride
as well. Tour is going many places in Europe, so
if you are over there, you can go and see
those bands as well. And speaking of Unto Others, there's
been an unfortunate little development today as well which that
Unto Others announced that they had been removed without their
kind of you know, being addressed or whatever, from the
Wasp tour that was happening in the next couple of
months over in America, where Wasp we're going to be
playing their debut album in its entirety and Unto Others
were supporting. There was a bit of drama around this
tour before, where Death Angel were the other original support
act on it, but Death Angel's drummer seemed to kind
of throw his toys out of the pram A little
bit about the fact that the singer of Death Angel
was touring with Kerry King's band, So there seems to
be kind of discontent in the Death Angel camp, and
Death Angel pulled out a little while ago, so they
need to sort out some of their shit. But now,
unto others, have been booted off, and they have said
that they weren't really again given much of a reason
why apart from apparently not providing a marketing plan. So
basically there's some kind of which they say they did,
and they've been very much promoting it. Basically, this seems
like it's on Wasp rather than on Untie Weathers. Some
kind of you know, costs cutting thing going on there.
Very unfortunate, not great behavior, and it comes right after
I was at least being so excited or you know,
again jealous of what an evening that would be slightly
less so now, although I would still enjoy seeing the
first Wasp having its entirety, but yeah, that's a thing
that happened. And then also Joey Valance and Bray are
going to be putting out a deluxe version of their
new album that's just come out, and it's going to
be featuring a cover of Charlie XCX's three six five,
which the brat album, which has been everywhere this summer,
came out the same day as the initial release of
The Joke.
Speaker 4: That was a good day for me.
Speaker 1: It was so they they're like, yeah, so we kind
of saw it as a sister album to ours that
we're going to cover what is a banger tune on there?
So quite not out right now, annoyingly, but I would
quite like to hear that particular cover. So there you go.
That is the news. We're gonna skip over questions this time,
just because, as I said, it is late as we
are doing this, but we would come back to this
next week when Lincoln Park haven't reunited whatever quickly, little
Patreon moment. This follows on quite nicely. We had the
album club pack for the end of August went up
this past week, where we spoke about the debut album
from Wasp, We spoke about the Distillers sing Sing Deathhouse,
we spoke about Forgotten, and then unearthed sort of indie rock,
indie punk album Japandroids, which Sam, you got like really
obsessed with after hearing it.
Speaker 4: For this, I'm not I've still.
Speaker 3: Been listening to the album of all the ones that
an albums, the one I've kept going back to the
last couple of days. It's just it's completely won me over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think, maybe unsurprisingly, the amount of
the album that we kind of spoke the most lengthy
about and went into the most like Wow, so many
multi facet elements of this album and its legacy. Watt
Aan's The Wild Hunt album, which, if you've not heard
that conversation, is a fascinating black album to black album,
fucking black metal album to talk about in terms of
both its reception but also just how much it covers
in that The Wasp album Club, obviously recent events notwithstanding,
that was fascinating as well as Oway, wasn't it?
Speaker 4: It was good fun. It was good fun. Yeah, we
had some disagreements, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that song that you are saying can get in
the Bin is so fucking good to go back and
back and re listen to it to a certain that
it was and I was like, yes, it's it's the
children who are Wrong that slams. Yeah, you go listen
to all of that and all our discussions on those
albums that is at patreon dot com. Slash That's not
metal and then let's quickly get out of it with
some releases for early September. A couple that sort of
you know, I'm going to add on extended from last week,
but some extra things that are care across my path. First,
we have a rat Lord with Blazed in the Northern Sky,
which is members of Blood Command doing some kind of
ridiculous sort of power violence, grind hardcore thing with as
you can tell from the time, just loads of like
punny Norwegian black metal titles because they're Norwegian and they
can do that. And then there's also, if you are
more on the kind of again sort of alternative emo
side of thing, it's a band called Enumclaw, who I
think are playing that outbreak autumn thing with Stories so
Far and everything, and they've got a record home in
Another life. Let's move on to today, the sixth of September.
Boston Manor hav a new album out called Sun Dive
and not a band I've particularly ever really cared about,
but they are again more on the prominent kind of
alternative rockside. They are out now. Forty What Sun return
with an album called Little Wait, which comes much much
sooner than forty What Sun albums usually like follow a
preceding album. I have not yet gotten over the last one,
so having another one so soon is quite jarring. But
I fucking loved that last forty what Son album, so
there is more to dive into there again. If you're
not familiar for you, Whatsun. It's just incredible, sort of
like x Doom but basically now sing a songwriter affair
that will will absolutely sad. Music will absolutely break your heart.
If you are like a dancing goth, then malt Chap
Doma have a record out called Bala Poalosa, one of
the most kind of like buzzy hypie like sort of
goth dark wave type bands of like the last like
five ten years or whatever. If you like sort of
you know again, like strange out there kind of prog stuff.
A Luke Todolu have an album out called Luxe. Blitzkree,
the old again new every British heavy metal band famously
covered Mametallica. They have got an album out called Blitzkree,
and it's also worth noting they share a singer with Satan,
so it's a big Brian coming back once again for Blitzkre.
If you want some more heavy Metal. Then a band
who if you were to ever hang out with with
me and my friends on a night out, you would
certainly hear the sounds of helvetitz Port and their new
album is called Warlord's Ridiculous Band. Moving into more underground
fair God is an Astronaut have an album called Embers,
a different sounding band but with God in the name.
God Dethroned have an album called The Judas Paradox. Peeling Flesh.
I think it's all one word, peeling Flesh. An album
called The g Code who I'm not and I'm not
like super familiar with them, but I think they're kind
of like a slam band. But they're one of those
slam bands who are becoming like quite buzzy in the
hardcore world, and all the hardcore kids are like adopting them.
So Peeling Flash if you want to go and check
out what that is about. And then we have a
couple of EPs on the death course side. There's a
bound called Body Snatcher who have got an album out,
an EP out even called Vile Conduct and Laura Jane
Grace and insert band name here. I've lost track of
which one's fucking which I don't know if this is
her like collaborating with someone, or if it's just like
a new name of her band or whatever. Laura Jane
Grace and the Mississippi Medicals have an EP called give
an Inch Excited term.
Speaker 3: I am like, I mean, it's come very quickly after
that last album, Like, but you know it's not against me.
I'm still gonna sit there and be like, can you
just get against me back? But of course I will
go for new lawn Jaye Grace material.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she's got this out really quick after that
last album, because that last album sounded like it took
four seconds to fucking write and record.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: That is it this week from us. Thank you very
much for listening. Let us know what your take is
on you know, everything we've discussed obviously the Lincoln Park
return and the new song and everything like that, but
anything else as well, and we will be back next
week with more of this business as well. So thank
you very much everybody, and cheerio. Bye bye