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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Christ Almighty. We are recording this

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much later into the night that than we normally do,

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thanks to the after dark and considerate timing of a

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certain prominent US rock band. But you are unbelow to

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that you're hearing this is normal time. Thank you very much.

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This is of course that's not metal. Thank you for

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joining us, and we have a news episode to talk

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to you about here on Hyperblast. As said, it was

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a funny day putting the news together to this because

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it was a little without the elephant in the room.

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It was a little light, and I was like, am

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I gonna have to? Like I was prepared to talk

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about the bad omens Henti merch controversy, but then you know,

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obviously the big band turned up. I'm like, yeah, so

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our announcement is coming in the fucking middle of the

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night in the UK, long after we will have normally recorded.

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But after we spoke about, you know, the Derrek Whibley

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situation last week, I was like, we can't fucking roll

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over and wait another week to talk about this. So

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we're pulling all lighter here. We're arriving here to talk

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to you about all the other news that's going on

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as well, So gear up for all that. My name's

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Paren Hayish here on. That's long metal with me Saint

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Cruise last week, as we kind of alluded to, Sam,

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Dignon and Mark are here in the dead of night.

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How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Time zones are my enemy now, but I'm staying up

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late because I'm dedicated to rock.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, a lot of how I'm doing is

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just kind of like dictated by what I've just watched

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and the sort of the feelings has stirred up in me.

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And we'll get into that. But yeah, like, yeah, some

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old times. What's waiting a little more? You're here for

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that next bit. I'm going to talk to you about

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some random cult new over British heavy metal first up front,

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because that's how we do this up yours. I would

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see Satan this week, the big man himself. Satan are

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new over British heavy metal cult legends. If you go

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delving into some of the best bands from that brief

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little era, you know, past the obvious level of your

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iron Maidens, particularly then on the more kind of devilish

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end of you know, your Angel Witch in which Finder

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General's etc. Satan are right there. They released an album

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called Court in the Act, which is one of Mark

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and I's favorite album titles of all time, isn't it?

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Uh, if you like you know gems from that time,

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you will not find many better examples than that album. Mark,

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you regularly wear a Court in the Act shirt, right.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm I'm off to see Satan tomorrow. They're

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a big part of my.

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Speaker 1: Life, yes, but they are there maybe one of the

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kind of top examples of like one of those bands

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who are like still doing really well in the They

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sorry Saxon, but they're like twenty thirteen reunion album Life

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Sentence is one of the best albums released by any

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of those bands in the New millennium, and all the

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album since are good. They have this really like frenetic, acrobatic,

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shreddy rift style, which is super cool and distinctive. Gotta

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be one of the one of those bands who are

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like most bleeding into like thrash and speed metal because

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they've got pace. And then there's the odd riff where

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you go like, yeah, that's Exodus, Like the song Devil's

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Infantry they played, It's like, shit, that's a fucking power

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trick riff or something. Brian the singer. His voice is

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in really good shape. He's got like a strong kind

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of mid range that has aged really well. But there's

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also a lot of like ha, which you know is

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a note that I can't hit. And I'm considerably less

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than seventy. I liked the first two songs. He was

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just drinking water like a normal person, and then a

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crew member scuttled out with just an entire bottle of Yaeger.

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Like what changed that moment?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is thirds on the set? You bring that out for me?

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A lot of like that someone's granddad stage banter, like

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remember man in the eighties, and like he randomly declared

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in the middle of what a big fan of doctor

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who he is? Which your kind of guy? Mark?

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Speaker 2: Oh fuck, Yes, Whovians are everywhere.

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act songs some slightly older than that songs, and then

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it's all good and it all sounded bloody good. Mark.

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and SeeU Space Cowboy. In the fact that I'm not

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too gutted about that class says a lot about how

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maniacally fanatic that's a guy, random ass band as.

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Speaker 1: A guy who's dedicated to Satan. Yeah, really really enjoyable night.

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If you, as said, if you are interested in kind

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of finding more of some of the best bands from

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like the new wave of British heavy metal era, then

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Satan I said, both, you know, the classic period and

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the current period both well worth ago and a very

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fun and you know, lively in the live environment as well.

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blood news, which obviously the reason we are here, you know,

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in the dead of night doing this is Lincoln Park's

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roll out, which started fucking more than a week ago

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with the countdown and count up. I don't know if

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you guys thought that the music video for the new

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song that they've put out spoilers, but there was you know,

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when you watch a video on YouTube that's premiering and

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it has like the little number countdown. They had a

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troll count that where it went down and then it

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hit zero, and then it went up one, two, three,

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and then the video came in, but I was like,

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are you doing another one? You cheeky fuckers? But I don't. Yeah,

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I'd barely know where to start with this because you

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guys were all seen the news. We have just watched

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it kind of player in real time. Lincoln Park are back.

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They have officially got back together and reunited. They have

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a new singer. Obviously, of course, we all know the

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reason they have not been around is passing Chester Bennington.

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from the band Dead Sarah Dead, Sarah Dead Sarah. I think, yes,

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who are a band I have prior to this never

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at all had any real attention or dalliance with I

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kind of I listened to their big song weather Man

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after this, and I thought, well, this is what I

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kind of expected it to be, which is kind of like,

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you know, a kind of generic radio rock band. Basically, Sam,

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you said that you've seen them before.

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the only time they ever free. It was like the

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only time they ever came to the UK, I think,

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and yeah, like I remember Fliger there though they were

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what like us rock music could be, and then they

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Speaker 4: My radar forever.

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Speaker 3: And then then like twelve years later, twelve years like

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who knows. Like I said, one day you could be

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opening for Twin Atlantic. Twelve years later, you could be

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asked to be the new singer of Lincoln Park. Don't

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give up your dreams, kids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because there was a there were rumors

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came from. And then again I was looking back over

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the timeline and I remember if the singer from Orgie

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several months ago was like, yeah, I heard Lincoln parker

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rehearsing with a girl, because I can't believe Orgie man

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that had the gossip of everyone else. But yeah, Emily

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Lincoln Park who came out with a big live stream

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event which we have just finished watching, premiering a you know,

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premiering their new singer and playing an entire you know set,

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opening with a new song, as it turns out, but

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tried and trude, you know, Lincoln Park classics and really

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surreal experience, isn't it watching that happen in front of me.

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an announcement like For as much as the actual roll

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it the way they did, I think certainly made it

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a bit more of a more tangible to get your

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Speaker 4: It made it feel like a proper event, not kind

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of like some like press release, press.

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Speaker 3: Announcement all we're back and here's a tour and we're

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gonna take all your money, all of that sort of stuff.

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like all these teasers and all this nonsense, but then

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actually having a proper payoff at the end of it.

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serve thing or what everyone was for like their you know,

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bang club or whatever to have a go in there,

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new song, so you're going straight out there like with

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a new material and then kind of going and you know,

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we can still whack out like all of these absolute

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, when it comes to reunions, if they

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come straight out the gate with new music attached, I'm

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already just way warmer to them. So the fact that

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this isn't just a nostalgia play. This isn't just a

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Speaker 4: The fact that just Lincoln Park karaoke.

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that is you know, I grew up in the two thousands.

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new music and all the concrete announcements of what's going

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to be happening and so on in a little bit,

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but just in general, the act of you know, we've

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new linkin Park singer. I did not know that we

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were going to have new music. I did not know

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the new single and everything. Just watching the act of

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Linkin Park play again with you know, a new singer

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in that role, how did they make you feel?

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important bands in shaping my music taste. Like getting into

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kind of hit by the sawful of like kind of

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this surreal feeling of like, oh fuck, this is this

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is actually have Linker Park play again. And it was

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once the you know, so they did the new song,

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I was like cool. And then they started to roll

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of few things from there, and I was like, yeah, cool,

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this is actually like Lincoln Park being back properly. I mean,

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hell of a first show for to Like, like I

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remember her promence. You could tell she was like shitting

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bricks at points of it. I think, because like she's

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obviously done a bunch of sure, like this is the

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anyone has ever had in the world of rock music.

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she's going to be paid a lot and she's going

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to be fucking extremely famous and whatever, but in terms

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of having that amount of eyes on you, having that

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amount of judgment coming your way before you get even

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get into you know, I don't really want to, you know,

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put too much stock in it, but the gender politics

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that kind of direction. Just in general, she is in

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that first show not knowing if anyone is behind you yet.

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of important and then this is like this will all

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have been like the most positive probably in a place

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it's like here, I am I am.

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Speaker 1: Even passing supporting to an Atlantic.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course I am.

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Speaker 3: You know that I'm replacing or like I am stepping

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into the shoes of chest a beating to who is

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a vocalist to people adored and shaped so many sort

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of people's concept of like metal could be and all that,

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and yeah, it is a hard thing to sort of

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like do, but I think I think she's shown she

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could be ready for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah she sounds good, like.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: I'm someone who has watched the Chester Bennington Tribute concert

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a lot, so like that, most of my Lincoln Park

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listening over the last few years has been with other

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singers on and it took me a while to sort

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of like get out of the headspace of this is

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sort of a karaoke thing and realizing, oh, this is

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the future of this big band, and once it's sort

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of sank in around sort of like numb crawling time it.

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You know, it's hard not to get swept up in

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these songs, like you hear what I've done with a

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voice like that, a powerhouse singer. It just sounds amazing

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and it's exciting. And you know, I didn't really think

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about the gender politics thing because it's such a dumb

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thing to even think about. But I guess it does exist.

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I mean fair play to where I hope the fan

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base is accepting.

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, I mean again because we will watch

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it on like a YouTube live stream, and then you've

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got the comment scrolling and you know, let's be real,

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the vast people who comment those things are unintelligent, so stupid.

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But it's you know, it was just a constant scrolling

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by mix of like, yes, she's amazing, Yes, she's amazing,

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how you know that's all support the band whatever, and

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then like no, it's not Lincoln Park, it's not linking

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part with that Chester, this is bad whatever. You know,

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it just constant, both sides just warring up the side

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of my screen for the last hour. They've made Lincoln

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Park wolf exactly.

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Speaker 4: That pronouns.

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Speaker 1: Next, Oh my god, well like Lincoln pronouns. But yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: What a good one.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, this wasn't the direction I was expecting this conversation

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to go in. But yeah, I mean in a way

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like you know, you swap out the words Lincoln Park

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and that exact conversation has gone by for tons of

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bands before, whether it's fucking like suicide silence.

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Speaker 2: Or asking Alexandria.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just watching the performance, I did think again, it

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took him oment to get my head around. She came out,

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and I again, maybe it was a nurse thing. I thought.

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The first few songs when she was doing the kind

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of more like the vocal fry stuff, the screaming kind

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of singing that Chester did, I was thinking, oh, it's

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kind of strange. I think it was around Crawling, which

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crawling must be an unbelievably difficult song to sing like

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that's particular song. I just think about the intensity of

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the vocal on the chorus and how much like ah

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there is on what is an extremely like you know,

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clearly melodic song, right, and that's fucking one in a

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million shit that Chester could just do that night of

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the night and replicating that is fucking hard. And I

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was thinking, is she trying to force it a little

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bit too much, trying to put on as much as

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that like vocal for her as possible. I don't know,

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But again, maybe it was just my ears settling in,

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or maybe she was settling in. But by the latter

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half of the set, I was thinking, this is good,

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like one Step Closer, and all those songs were good.

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Speaker 3: Numb into One Step Closer. I think she really settled in.

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And then from then on to the end, I think like,

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I've think really like none once again, and then you're like,

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what I've done? And I don't know it's because you're

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just dropping a run of songs that I hold so

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dearly that I was just.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get swept up in them.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, no, No, I think she is sort

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of really found her fitting on these on these songs

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in particular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it shows in part like just

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how difficult it is to get anyone to do what

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Chester could do, and the fact that they've found someone

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who even remotely can kind of approach it and somewhat

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comfortably slip into it is it's about if you're going

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to decide to move forward, right, it's about as good

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a choice as anywhere, because finding a you know, a

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Chester analog is very fucking difficult. And the fact that

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it was again like an admirable, proper live performance again

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coming out with that intensity of again eyes on it

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and the nerves that must have been going on, knowing

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the amount of eyes that are going to be there,

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but it was all real, you know, and you could

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pick up on the human inconsistencies of it. I think

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again just kind of add to the whole thing again,

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going into the whole thing happening the from you know,

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last week, and I think we've all suspected now that linkpup,

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we're going to come back with a new singer. The

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analog that I had in my mind before seeing it

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and before hearing the new song was kind of Queen

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with Adam Lambert, Like that was what I thought it

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was going to be, right, like a big legacy show

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with a singer who could you know, whoever they picked,

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they probably pick someone who does a very good, you know,

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Chester kind of slip in job. And you know, I

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never saw the Queen Adam Lambert shows, but everyone who

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did seems to say they were good. And it didn't

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know it negatively impact Queen's kind of standing in the

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world in any way, but to a degree. It's also

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like I think now they haven't done it in a while.

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Love there Now it's almost like it's been sort of

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memory hold a bit. That was what I thought this

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was going to be at first. But yeah, we have

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more than that, because we do have everything. I mean,

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for a start, the fact that they did this whole

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like set of songs and they went into Somebody when

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they were waiting for the end with Hell that song

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is nonsense. Like I was like, I can't believe I'm

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watching the big fucking you know, the big live stream

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to celebrate you know, the returning link apart with the

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new thing or everything, and you're doing this like stupid

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reggae song.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just glad because, like, in terms of

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like set lists, first four albums, the good four albums,

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I'm a thousand sons of defender. I was happy to

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see that that song, in particular that album get a

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bit of red. And then they ignored the free afterwards,

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which a not very good.

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Speaker 1: Hunting parties better than wait, dozand Sons anyway, Wait, waiting

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for the end was crap. Anyway, they did open with

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a new song and just picking up what Mark was

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saying before that, I agree, I because we all expected

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them to come back. I didn't expect them to have

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an album in hand, you know. I thought it would

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be like a you know, we come out, here's a

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new singer. Maybe after a year or whatever. You know,

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see how it goes, how most things like this tend

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to go. And if they hadn't done that, I think

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to a degree, the good will would have carried them,

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right because you and view a lot of like, yeah,

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you know, take as much time as you need kind

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of situation, putting their money where their mouth is and

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like coming out with something immediately. I respect that. Yeah,

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and uh, not only just having that thing about the

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opening with with with the track on it, I suppose

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we should talk about the new song, the Emptiness Machine.

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And I again, my first time hearing the song was

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watching the live room and then playing. And I've then

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gone back and I've listened to this version after that

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that set. But here in the moment with that song,

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I was like, ooh, okay, because you know, I think

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they've obviously it was very well structured for the context

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of the set it was in. In that Mike sings

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like the first sort of minute and a half or whatever,

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and then it's kind of structured so that Emily Yeah,

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like rise of about the station appears there. But I,

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I mean, let's be wal, it's better than what Lincoln

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Park were last doing when they were around, right, Like

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that much is absolutely true. I am a I'm probably

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the least invested in Link Park out of the three

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of us. I do like Lincoln Park at their best.

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I have a fondness for them that I think most

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people in our world do. I am really taken aback

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at how much. I like this song not only the

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immediate like get your head around factor of them having

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a new singer in the mix, but the fact that, like,

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I haven't been invested in Lincoln Park for a long

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fucking time any again. I like the Hunting Party record.

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I think there's with good tracks you know that were

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kind of clapped back to old school Lincoln Parks or

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of style tracks on that. So this is like immediately right,

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it's the best linkin Parks on in at least ten years,

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if not more.

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Speaker 3: I mean on like immediate listen, Like again, I like

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one thousand Sons. I think Hungry Party has got some

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stuff on there, a sum that to me a while

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to get into. This is the most kind of like

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immediately I've kind of gone, oh, I like a Lincoln

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Park song since probably like New Divide, like going way

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back to sort of like because that's the last thing

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a part and I remember hearing it first and going oh,

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I love this, and then you know, A Thousand Suns

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took a while to come round to.

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Speaker 4: I really like that now.

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Speaker 3: But this is when I've gone just immediately gone like oh,

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this is if I was to pitch what I would

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want Lincoln Park coming back in twenty twenty four to

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sound like it's this, It's it's got all you know,

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the big kind of pop melodies that they always had.

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It isn't you know, the most raging, hard hit song ever.

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But that's second verse with the like after the first course,

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with a band kicking properly, and then she comes in

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on the vocals and it actually goes like Lincoln Park

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haven't gone in again, you probably say, since the Hunting Party,

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But even then, I feel this feels more authentic, more

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like it doesn't feel it's kind of like all we're

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throwing back. It feels just kind of like what modern

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Lincoln Park should sound like.

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Speaker 1: Low bar for like, you know, such enormously huge mainstream

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bands as well, but like the production doesn't sound like

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shit in like you know, could Lincoln Park. I mean,

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you know, with Blink Twenity two, right blink, when at

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two released a record that we're in the end, we're like,

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this has a handful of like really good songs on it,

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and they've played great live shows or whatever. But when

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that first blank Whenitty two single came out, we went,

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oh my god, why the fuck does it sound like this?

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And you know, obviously it's Lincoln Park. Production is not

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like mega heavy or whatever. But like it sounds like

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you want Lincoln part of the sound, it doesn't. It's

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not like, you know, Lincoln Park coming back with some

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awful TikTok thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a very comfy song. It's very

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warm and sort of nostalgic in a way, but not

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really necessarily in a bad way, because I don't like,

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I don't want to stadium band try and like tick

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doc shit like you say, And I really like the song.

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I think the chorus on it is really big and

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sort of coming at it after years and years and

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years of every metalcore band trying to write Lincoln Park

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choruses and this being better than like anything from I

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don't know they bring Me the Horizon album from this

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year is really reassuring and just it sort of reminds

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you why Lincoln Park are the daddies of this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of shockingly good. It should be worth

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noting as well that there is another lineup change. Rob

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the drummer, long timely about drummer elected not to come

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back for this. I think he just kind of, you know,

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drifted away from the band in their kind of hiatus.

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He'd been replaced by Colin Briton or Britain. Do you

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know who is worth noting is the producer of a

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Data Members album You're Welcome, So that could be a

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fly in the ointsman. But the single, the studio version

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that we've been presented with, shows that they've at least

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gone around that particular thing. Yeah, like I thought this

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sounded good on the live performance, and then it's always

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a thing of like, okay, you go back to the

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studio version, does it still sound good there? And it did?

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And yeah, the chorus, you know, it seems to be

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and it's not like a it's not a like, oh

477
00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:28,680
this is about Chester and about returning and here's a

478
00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:31,319
song called like Aftermath or Phoenix or something. Right, it

479
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,400
seems to be like a social media song, Like it's

480
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,000
like the opening line it's like flashing your favorite point

481
00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:37,720
of view or something. It's not very deep. It's linkin

482
00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,640
Park doing a social media song. But the chorus it

483
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,319
made me feel linkin Park things that I haven't felt

484
00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:47,480
in as I say, like at least ten years, and

485
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,480
I wasn't really prepared.

486
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,279
Speaker 3: Was the Meteora Lost song like that was a kind

487
00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:54,559
of the other one you sort of say, is like,

488
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,000
because that's an old on that made me feel that,

489
00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:00,720
but you go, that's not song. This actually as a

490
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,079
written in twenty twenty four. Whenever song, that chorus, it's

491
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,440
a proper Lincoln Park chorus.

492
00:24:06,759 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

493
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,759
Speaker 1: And so coming out of this, not only am I going, yeah,

494
00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:12,599
Lincoln Park have a new singer, Let's give them the

495
00:24:12,599 --> 00:24:16,119
benefit of the doubt, and let's you know whatever. I'm

496
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,720
coming at this going I am more interested in a

497
00:24:18,759 --> 00:24:22,839
Lincoln Park album than I was pretty much ever expecting

498
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,279
to be, which is, yeah, a very very curious thing

499
00:24:26,279 --> 00:24:29,839
and pretty cool. Again, I'm not saying I've fully made

500
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,880
my mind up on the singer or whatever, but like,

501
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,480
that's a great fucking song. There is also a world

502
00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,319
tour consisting of six states, which I think at this

503
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,720
stage is fine. They will do more, but just the

504
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:43,039
initial comeback thing. They are doing six shows across the

505
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,680
entire world, right cities like bog Guitar and Soul. They

506
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,720
are playing the two in London in about three weeks time.

507
00:24:51,079 --> 00:24:54,319
It's worth noting, like how many other bands in our

508
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,759
world could turn up and go, yeah, we'll play the

509
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,599
O two in three weeks, and we trust it's going

510
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,559
to sell the tickets.

511
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna that's gonna go. That's gonna go in

512
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,440
a second, Like getting to his hat is gonna impossible.

513
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,119
Goodluck to anyone trying. I'm jealous, but you know that's crazy.

514
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,680
I didn't realize it was so soon. Good for them.

515
00:25:12,839 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so we should also mention the album is

516
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,920
called from Zero, which I think is a you know,

517
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,559
I was really got a patron them and they mentioned

518
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:22,160
that their band name prior to linkin Park was zero

519
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,279
with an X, and then obviously it also relates to

520
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,839
kind of rebuilding the band up from from from from

521
00:25:28,839 --> 00:25:30,920
where they were. But the album from Zero is gonna

522
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960
be out on November the fifteenth, so I guess we

523
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:34,960
might be able to cram it into our like final

524
00:25:35,039 --> 00:25:37,279
review show of the year before we go on to

525
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:39,359
all the end of view stuff that we do here.

526
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,279
But yeah, linkin Park are officially back with a new singer,

527
00:25:44,519 --> 00:25:47,000
new song, new album. I think you know, some of

528
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,160
that we expected. Some of that is like a really

529
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,559
I would say, quite nice surprise.

530
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely definitely.

531
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: I like you say, I was expecting Queen featuring our

532
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,599
Lambert and instead we've got no Alison Chains.

533
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: Well, we can only hope at this stage, but yeah,

534
00:26:06,519 --> 00:26:09,799
fucking hell wow, right, let us quickly as we can

535
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,319
fly through the rest of the news that's going on.

536
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,440
I'm not going to mention the bad omens Hen Tai

537
00:26:14,759 --> 00:26:17,519
controversy again from here. I'm going to very quickly mention

538
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,839
the fact that Pinhead Gunpowder are back, which you may

539
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,559
know if you are like a hardcore Green Day fan.

540
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,279
Billy Joe Armstrong sort of side project band who released

541
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:28,559
like a couple of albums in like the late nineties,

542
00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:32,640
very bizarrely and arbitrarily coming back with a new album

543
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,240
that's called and That's gonna be out on October the fifteenth,

544
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,559
and they've released a new single from that, which is

545
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,000
the you know, first Pinhead Gunpowder material in quite a

546
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,279
long time. And I can't remember the name of the

547
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:47,079
other project he did, but the long shot there, you go, say,

548
00:26:47,079 --> 00:26:49,319
Billy Armstrong every now and then he comes out with

549
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,319
something that's outside of Green Day and a bunch of

550
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,480
people go, wow, this is the best thing Billy Joe

551
00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:56,319
Armstrong has done in twenty five years. And he listened

552
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:57,759
to it, and you go like, well, it sounds like

553
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,960
Billy Joe Armstrong.

554
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: I think it's a really nice song. I really like it.

555
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: It's fine. I listen to it and I go, well,

556
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,440
it's better.

557
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:07,839
Speaker 4: Than anyone on the last Green Day album.

558
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't really listen to pin pin Head

559
00:27:11,839 --> 00:27:13,880
Gunpowder very actively. I don't think i'd really listened to

560
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,119
them since when we did like the Green Day Special

561
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,079
and TNM, like many years ago. So I went back

562
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,799
and refreshed myself with like a couple of songs that

563
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:23,400
i'd like saved on Spotify from those like nineties Pinhea

564
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,319
Gunpowdered album. I was like, cool, yeah, nice getting to

565
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,640
the vibe with it, and then I queued up this

566
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,920
song and immediately to the back I was like, it's

567
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,519
just not as hard, is it? And it's like it's

568
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
it's obvious. I know that's to be expected, but like

569
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,039
in terms of the intensity, if this is the Pinhadunpowder albums,

570
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,319
they are like, you know, obviously in the context of

571
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:42,799
what they are, but it's like pretty kind of at it,

572
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,559
sort of late nineties, you know, brash kind of pop

573
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:50,160
punk to a degree, whereas this, I thought, I can

574
00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,759
tell that this is the same man who is writing

575
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:54,880
these current Green Day albums, and if you like these

576
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,319
current green Day albums, that's probably not a problem for you.

577
00:27:57,599 --> 00:28:00,000
But I was like, yeah, it's just not as intense,

578
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:02,440
Like his vocal style doesn't have that kind of like

579
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,759
bark to it that it used to. The strumming on

580
00:28:05,799 --> 00:28:08,240
the guitar is kind of looser, and I agree with you, Sam,

581
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:11,079
Like nothing about this turned me off in an intense way,

582
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,160
like you know, the worst bits of any modern Green

583
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,440
Day album. But I still I was like, well, it's

584
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480
just got that sort of like vaguely happy, go lucky

585
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,160
rock and roll jolliness that I just don't care about. Yeah,

586
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,759
Green Day, So I thought, well, that's an okay song

587
00:28:23,799 --> 00:28:26,200
that I will immediately forget about, like all those long

588
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,279
shot ones or whatever.

589
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 4: It was all just a bit too nice for me.

590
00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:31,279
Like I don't think it was bad.

591
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,799
Speaker 3: But it was just kind of like, yeah, cool Billy

592
00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,519
Drumstrong doing what he does, sounding the same but maybe

593
00:28:37,559 --> 00:28:39,559
just slightly less. I don't know if it's because it

594
00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:43,160
was maybe just a slightly more like and like where

595
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,559
it doesn't found sounds like horribly like protalled and like

596
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,960
sure tweaked.

597
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:48,799
Speaker 4: With like the Green albums do that.

598
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: It's sounded a bit more authentic, but it just it

599
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,799
was like fine, like, yeah, it's a happy go lucky

600
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,319
rock song.

601
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,799
Speaker 4: Cool. I can't really remember anything else about it at

602
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:58,440
the moment.

603
00:28:58,359 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: Like play me any song that sounds like the Ramons

604
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,960
are like a power pop thing, and I'll just go

605
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:07,119
with it, Like that stupid Offspring song we talked about.

606
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but even you didn't like the Green Day

607
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,039
album right.

608
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's rubbish, but this one at least has

609
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:13,720
a bit more pep.

610
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this song fair enough. And like I said, that

611
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,559
was gonna be like if we don't get Lincoln parking

612
00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:22,160
time at least as a new Pinhead Gunpowder song, whoaho?

613
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,079
And on that front, if we didn't have Lincoln Park

614
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,839
reunion news in time, Mark made a very valid point

615
00:29:28,839 --> 00:29:30,960
whereas like if Lincoln Park come out with a new

616
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,039
singer and a new song and everything, and we are

617
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:35,839
here having recorded earlier and we're going well as it

618
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,559
is a back everyone, we would look like absolute fools.

619
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:46,480
But this reunion is baffling because it was being teased right.

620
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:47,920
It was around the time the Oasis were coming back

621
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,319
and they were like, oh, you know, they were planting

622
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:51,599
their seeds, and I was like, wait a minute, we

623
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,599
only just reported on you guys leaving, and we had

624
00:29:54,599 --> 00:29:56,839
to check when, as it is, had broken up, and

625
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,400
I thought, yeah, last year, fucking January. January of this year,

626
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,799
as it is, we're out, And Patty Walters was like, yeah,

627
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,240
music isn't really a part of my life anymore. Nine

628
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,839
months later, not even that less than a pregnancy later,

629
00:30:12,599 --> 00:30:16,079
as it is, are officially reunited. How are you guys

630
00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:16,920
feeling about this?

631
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,559
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm positively lactating at the gob who fucking cares?

632
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: Like like, I don't care.

633
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: But I'm also like, when we go into the next

634
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,920
part of the news, if he's into being one of

635
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,759
the few things on.

636
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: That lineup that I'm like, I'd go watch that.

637
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: Actually, so I can't really, I've got no legs to

638
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,640
stand on, but stay away from like give out basement

639
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,720
in basement Like this puts.

640
00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: All those brick rock bands a change, the way I

641
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,799
always complain, the way like Mallory Knock the weever goes

642
00:30:43,799 --> 00:30:46,079
away for two years. Fucking hell, at least there's an

643
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:49,119
official calendar between like that and.

644
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were gone from good like for a decent

645
00:30:52,599 --> 00:30:54,799
amount of time for that, you know, come crawling back

646
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:56,359
as it is, couldn't even give us a year.

647
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean to refer to them like dial Tones, I'll

648
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480
give them that. They can they can do whatever the

649
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,039
fuck they want. Dial Tones is massive.

650
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as you said earlier, the announcement of

651
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,799
them playing Never Happy ever After in full you were like,

652
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,519
that means as much to me as if it just

653
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:15,599
said dial Tones in full Yeah, like.

654
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: Yes, Like, there are two songs on the album that

655
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,559
I think are like two of the best pop punk

656
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:23,720
songs of the twenty tens, and they are like the

657
00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,640
only things as it is, ever did.

658
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: That was worthwhile, so you know, yeah, better a lot

659
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:29,720
of pop punk bands.

660
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,079
Speaker 1: So that will lead us into the next bit that

661
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:34,319
has said, which is that slam Dunk have announced a

662
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:37,880
significant portion of their lineup for next year's events twenty

663
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,559
twenty five. It is being headlined by A Day to Remember.

664
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,079
The bill also features Alkaline Trio as it is doing

665
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Never Happy Ever After, Delilah, Bond, Dream State, Electric Core Boy,

666
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,119
Graphic Nature, Hot Mulligan, Hit the Lights, knuckle Puck, who

667
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,079
are playing Copoesetic? What's that saying? Mouth culture mouth culture movements,

668
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,759
Neck deep Less than Jake, Straight from the Path, Split

669
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:03,200
Cha Newfound Glory, The Atari's the starting line they used,

670
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,400
and zebra Head plus a whole bunch more. I always

671
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,920
got to end on zebra Head. I feel like the

672
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:09,720
US are close. They used. They've got to be there

673
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,880
every other fucking year.

674
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 4: Anyway, they aren't because they keep pulling out.

675
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,079
Speaker 1: That's why they keep appearing. Then, fair enough, Big slam

676
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,680
Dunk announcement. I guess you know a data Remember. Shockingly,

677
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:23,160
this is I think the first time that they've headlined it,

678
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,200
which feels incredibly bizarre because.

679
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,359
Speaker 4: There's something they've ever played it.

680
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you just showed me that, I didn't

681
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,440
think anything of it because I was like, yeah, there's

682
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,440
a slam Dun band like that's they are so heavily

683
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,799
ingrained in that scene in general as a lineup what

684
00:32:37,559 --> 00:32:39,079
we were kind of having a discussion about this, and

685
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:41,440
I was I was slightly surprised by some of your

686
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,640
answers and Mark as well, like slam Dunk is one

687
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,559
of the handful of festivals that you would sort of

688
00:32:46,599 --> 00:32:50,359
like semi regularly attend. So I'll ask you first, and

689
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,240
I got just Sam, what's it? What would this attract

690
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:52,960
you back for lander.

691
00:32:53,359 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: There's a New Phone Gloria there, so I'm at least

692
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,640
I sort of have to be interested in going.

693
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: And that's true.

694
00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:01,599
Speaker 2: That's sort of home. My brain is wired.

695
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:03,119
Speaker 1: Colin Tree as good as well, isn't it.

696
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: I'll climb trial less than Jake. You know what, when

697
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,079
I do look at it, there's lots of shit there.

698
00:33:08,119 --> 00:33:11,640
I do really like, Yeah, I did to remember you

699
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,480
put them in front of me. I'm going to have

700
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,680
the best time as it is, or play dial tones

701
00:33:16,759 --> 00:33:17,480
all love that.

702
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:20,119
Speaker 4: I guess.

703
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I need at least one more like slam Dunk.

704
00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:28,240
Mark loves this band band to be nice before I

705
00:33:28,359 --> 00:33:34,519
properly go think about going. But I don't know. Maybe

706
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,920
New Phone Glory will play some shows around there and

707
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,240
I can go to those instead.

708
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,079
Speaker 1: So, Sam, what's your take on slam Dunk, Because this

709
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:42,880
got announced and I looked at it and I went like, yeah,

710
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
that's a like if you asked me to put together

711
00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:47,200
a slam Duck line. Obviously that wouldn't be the exact

712
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,200
selection of bands I would do, but that's you know,

713
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,319
that's roughly in the ballpark of what slam Dunk does.

714
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I don't think this is a bad loan.

715
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: But it's also like there was more on the much

716
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,400
more line slammer lineup for this year just gone that

717
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,960
I would look at, and that's more exciting than what

718
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,920
they've booked here. To me, this song is kind of

719
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,599
like there is there's not a draw on there from

720
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,320
me at the moment, Like I'll go watch our Plan Trio.

721
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,079
Speaker 4: But they are, you know, fifty to fifty live.

722
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:16,119
Speaker 1: They were really good this year.

723
00:34:16,599 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's thing is like I've seen them twice

724
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,280
in the last couple of years. They've been amazing, they've

725
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:25,440
been terrible, like like, so that's thing, Like they've booked

726
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,559
probably the only other metalcore band worse than I prevailed

727
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:31,159
to book as you're like big top field heavy band

728
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:33,480
in fucking electric call Boys.

729
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: Oh, actually, maybe I do want to go. I forgot

730
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,239
they were.

731
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:39,599
Speaker 4: I'm like, since this gets some of my gruther is

732
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,360
that Slimer has given up on heavy music.

733
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,159
Speaker 3: It feels like and it's such like there's so much

734
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,159
cool shit that they could be drawing from. And again,

735
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,599
I'll see all those bands at Outbreak probably sure, but

736
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,119
I also want those bands to you know, play other stages,

737
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,440
play our festivals and kind of branch out, and it's

738
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,199
just a bumer that they're heavy music rappers and a

739
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,719
fucking electric call boy like and like graphic Naturehore, I

740
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,800
think are totally okay, straight from the path great they

741
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:04,960
they you know, they'll come along.

742
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: They'll do the same straight from the path that they

743
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,960
do every time they play slam Dunk cool It.

744
00:35:09,159 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 3: Just to me, I just don't see how this is

745
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,000
like this grand return to form that everyone's oh my god,

746
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,360
slam Nunk's good again. I'm like, it's more or less

747
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,280
the same. They've got the same arguably pasted it. I

748
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,679
would say more past it headliner than New Me at

749
00:35:22,679 --> 00:35:26,000
six personally in a Day to Remember, I don't think

750
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,800
un at six on their sort of farewell run are

751
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,079
as embarrassing as Data Member on You're Welcome.

752
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,599
Speaker 1: But again I would say they're probably a much better

753
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:37,840
live band to Day to Remember. Still, here's the thing

754
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,880
about this. You were saying that there's more exciting last year.

755
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,280
Last year everything was absolutely pissed apart from like the

756
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,320
lowest stages. And maybe because this is like a first

757
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840
roll out announcement where they're announcing the big guns bands,

758
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,000
maybe a lot of the stuff that would be on

759
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:56,280
those Lowes stages, which were the only things worth going

760
00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,000
to this year is yet to come. So I think

761
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:03,239
in a way you're comparing a completely finished lineup that

762
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,000
at the top end was bad, but.

763
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 3: They still had a lot of those good bands on

764
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,960
those first nailsments. They had like Ladispute and the Wonder

765
00:36:09,079 --> 00:36:11,519
Years and the Interrupters like early on, and that was

766
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:11,800
the shit.

767
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: Like maybe I'm just saying that. I don't think you

768
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,199
can completely compare the two lineups right now because the

769
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,360
way last year was so weirdly lopsided towards like the

770
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,960
bottom stages versus again a first big guns Out announcement.

771
00:36:26,039 --> 00:36:28,920
I think they are two different things. Sure, I look

772
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,360
at this and I go, yeah, like I said to me,

773
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,400
it's not like the greatest lineup ever, but it's not

774
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,599
it's not actively embarrassing. You know, there are things on

775
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:40,239
here where I look at this and I don't have

776
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,360
that like insane recoiling of like why the fuck is

777
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,159
X band being you know, put that high up on

778
00:36:47,159 --> 00:36:49,599
a stage the way you know, the Bloody we the

779
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,679
Kings scenarios and stuff from from from this year and

780
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,280
all that. There's less of that, And I look at

781
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,440
it and I go, like, yeah, it's not surprising. It's

782
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,480
not exciting if what you are counting is excited is like,

783
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,880
you know, big surprise bookings or whatever. But I do

784
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,320
look at it and I go, that is roughly what

785
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,159
I would expect slam dunk to be. And I think

786
00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:13,320
this raises the question of like, how quote exciting can

787
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,119
a slam dunk lineup actually be in twenty twenty five

788
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,000
if they're pulling out again certified you know, big booking

789
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,480
bands like a Data Remember and Alkaline Trio and Electrical

790
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:27,880
Boy and Neck Deep and Newfound Glory, etc. And it's

791
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:32,199
considered kind of a miss. Who are the bands who

792
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,440
are actually supposed to be filling in those roles that

793
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,800
high up or whatever in those genres if not those guys,

794
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880
I think to a degree it kind of points out

795
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,039
if you're looking for anything else, it's kind of more

796
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:47,440
a problem endemic to the scene than it actually is

797
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:51,159
the festival, because I look at that and I go,

798
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,239
if you are in the core demographic of liking slam

799
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,440
dunk music, there's probably a fair bit on this that

800
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,599
you would want to see, even if it's not like

801
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:01,199
blowing you out of the water.

802
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 4: So I agree with.

803
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,599
Speaker 3: That, and that's what again, I don't think this is

804
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,800
a bad I just I for me, it was just

805
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,679
kind of like this weird like double tink of like,

806
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,159
oh so this is like the grand return to form.

807
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:13,079
Line of everyone's saying is like, oh, I'll go slamlunk

808
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:15,920
in this show. I'm like, it's kind of just a

809
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,480
lot of the the same things that I kind of

810
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,119
look at last I'm and go like, it's just slam

811
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:26,800
dunk stuff. It's very nostalgia heavy bookings. It's some embarrassing bands.

812
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,079
It's some bands who were once really great that aren't

813
00:38:29,159 --> 00:38:31,880
very good anymore used and.

814
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,639
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

815
00:38:34,199 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: To me, I'm I just like, I mean, there is

816
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,360
exciting ship slam like fucking get Rancid back. You tried

817
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:41,800
to put them a couple of years ago, Try and

818
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,400
get them back. Fucking a fire there a f I

819
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,000
could like play slam dunk, Like, come on, there are

820
00:38:48,039 --> 00:38:52,159
like melodic punk bands there like that that are within

821
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,159
the kind of level that slam Dunk could draw from

822
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,719
that I think they could. They could book the art

823
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,800
and again, like I like only twenty four.

824
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:02,159
Speaker 4: Feelings on a day to remember aside.

825
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,039
Speaker 3: They are a a they are an appropriate headliner for

826
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:09,480
slam Dunk. They are as like typical or slam headline

827
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:11,880
as you could possibly get. For me, it was I

828
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:14,039
was like, oh, you know, there's there's neck Deep again,

829
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,119
and there's all these bands that played it last year

830
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,840
or the year before, and that is a problem with

831
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:23,119
the scene. I I agree with your kind of point

832
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,920
on that, but for me, I just I just didn't.

833
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,760
I didn't see the kind of need for this to

834
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,079
be like everyone be like, oh my god, slam Dunk's

835
00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:31,199
great again, Let's go woo.

836
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 2: Have you considered that that's the power of as it is?

837
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: They're playing dial tones. They fucking played dal tones last

838
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,559
time I saw them. But I'm so bad about that.

839
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: And not doing that absolutely fucking clown behavior. Yeah, I

840
00:39:45,199 --> 00:39:48,159
think I probably won't be able to come to that

841
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,400
kind of judgment until we see like stage splits. Because

842
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,119
what you're saying about the heavy side and stuff, I agree,

843
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:56,360
And that's been you know, slam Dunk's weakness for several

844
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,880
years now. And I look back on the years though,

845
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,360
like literally last.

846
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,119
Speaker 3: Year, because the year before they we're looking like really

847
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:03,280
good heavy stuff and it just it's now, it's in

848
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,840
the last two years, it's gone to piss.

849
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, if we get like the Sland

850
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,480
up post, they would pull out where it has all

851
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:12,719
the bands and their little boxes of their stages. If

852
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,679
we look at like the heavy stage box and it's

853
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,719
weakers piss, And if we look at like you know,

854
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,599
the highest stage boxes and it's just full of like

855
00:40:18,679 --> 00:40:21,519
crap nostalgia bookings while all the kind of contemporary bands

856
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,079
are like buried away somewhere, then yeah, I can agree

857
00:40:24,119 --> 00:40:25,840
with you. But I think for a first batch of

858
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,599
like here's your big name bands, I don't think this

859
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,639
is complaint worthy, shall we say, from slam Dunk, because

860
00:40:31,639 --> 00:40:34,119
it's a bunch of like safe steady hands and if

861
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:36,920
there is more to come then than great. If you

862
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,960
are looking for a festival experience one day festival in

863
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:42,159
May and you're not interested in seeing as it is

864
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,840
playing dial tones, maybe you lean more to the Incineration

865
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,679
festival side, where you could go to London and see

866
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,400
the band who are announced to be headlining at the

867
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,280
festival today, which is Tryptocon playing a Celtic frost set.

868
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,760
And I was basically already going to Incineration Festival because

869
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,840
myself and a certain friend of ours we have a

870
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,480
pact that basically, if Blooding Cantation got announced to play

871
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:06,360
a UK show anywhere we would go. They were the

872
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,440
very first announcement for Incineration. They're playing then upcoming album

873
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,400
in its entirety. But obviously this is like yeah, okay

874
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:17,719
on there. If you too are interested in Tripcon doing

875
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:22,320
Celtic Frost, I would probably predict then it will be

876
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,760
basically what it was at Bloodstock, where it was like

877
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,880
the first two albums and like the Empresor's return Epe

878
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960
so basically nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty five. So

879
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,480
if you need to do some kind of revision listening

880
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:34,840
to prepare for this, no Cold Lake, no, no Cold Lake, shockingly,

881
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:36,320
But if you need to do some kind of as

882
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,440
I say, revision, then it's you know more Betales Emperor's

883
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,280
return to Mega theory on the early sort of thrashiers

884
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,719
Celtic Frost stuff. I do hold out hope that there

885
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,840
would be maybe not Cold Lake, but you know, expand

886
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,360
a little bit more. They are like this weekend, they

887
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,519
are performing a set in a fucking They're doing Prophecy

888
00:41:53,519 --> 00:41:56,760
Festival in Germany in a fucking cave and they're doing

889
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,239
an into and they're doing it into the Pandemonium set.

890
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,199
So if that like livens up the juices a little

891
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:03,960
bit and they knock a little bit more in there,

892
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,559
I'd be very fucking pleased. But you know, it's nice

893
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:07,960
to see this stuff again. This is the first time

894
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,519
trip to coming out something and I'd be like, oh, yeah,

895
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:12,400
I can see that again, which is a very nice

896
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,400
and novel feeling, but yeah, a wicked stuff going on Insideration,

897
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,519
they've also announced, like in they're one of those specials

898
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:19,360
where they've kind of be announcing things like Banned by

899
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,159
Band one at a time, but in the last lit

900
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,679
several weeks they've also announced Black Braid, Conjurer, Undergang, Spectral, Wound,

901
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:28,159
lots of good stuff. Like I mentioned Blancantation as well,

902
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,440
So as said, if you're not interested in seeing a

903
00:42:30,519 --> 00:42:33,519
data remember and neck deep, then you could come and

904
00:42:33,559 --> 00:42:36,239
see Celtic Frost songs being performed by the Mighty Trip

905
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,559
to con. We also had news that Green Lung and

906
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:42,960
Unto Others are extending their kind of UK run of

907
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:45,639
dates they were doing into a full blown European tour.

908
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,920
I think it's worth noting that on the European poster,

909
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,199
Green Lung and Unto Others are equally built, so I imagine

910
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,760
it's like a co headline over there, whereas here Green

911
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,639
Lung seemed to have the mighty head start of being

912
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,599
the much bigger band over here, but the full Green

913
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:01,880
Lung to Others and Satan Satyrs on for the ride

914
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,039
as well. Tour is going many places in Europe, so

915
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:06,960
if you are over there, you can go and see

916
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,039
those bands as well. And speaking of Unto Others, there's

917
00:43:10,039 --> 00:43:13,719
been an unfortunate little development today as well which that

918
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:18,639
Unto Others announced that they had been removed without their

919
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,679
kind of you know, being addressed or whatever, from the

920
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Wasp tour that was happening in the next couple of

921
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,079
months over in America, where Wasp we're going to be

922
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,559
playing their debut album in its entirety and Unto Others

923
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,760
were supporting. There was a bit of drama around this

924
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,480
tour before, where Death Angel were the other original support

925
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:40,079
act on it, but Death Angel's drummer seemed to kind

926
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,119
of throw his toys out of the pram A little

927
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:44,400
bit about the fact that the singer of Death Angel

928
00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:47,000
was touring with Kerry King's band, So there seems to

929
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,119
be kind of discontent in the Death Angel camp, and

930
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,440
Death Angel pulled out a little while ago, so they

931
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,320
need to sort out some of their shit. But now,

932
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,880
unto others, have been booted off, and they have said

933
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,320
that they weren't really again given much of a reason

934
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,800
why apart from apparently not providing a marketing plan. So

935
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440
basically there's some kind of which they say they did,

936
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,360
and they've been very much promoting it. Basically, this seems

937
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,639
like it's on Wasp rather than on Untie Weathers. Some

938
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,159
kind of you know, costs cutting thing going on there.

939
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,599
Very unfortunate, not great behavior, and it comes right after

940
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:22,559
I was at least being so excited or you know,

941
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,360
again jealous of what an evening that would be slightly

942
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,760
less so now, although I would still enjoy seeing the

943
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,039
first Wasp having its entirety, but yeah, that's a thing

944
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:33,880
that happened. And then also Joey Valance and Bray are

945
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,719
going to be putting out a deluxe version of their

946
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,599
new album that's just come out, and it's going to

947
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:41,519
be featuring a cover of Charlie XCX's three six five,

948
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,679
which the brat album, which has been everywhere this summer,

949
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,800
came out the same day as the initial release of

950
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,079
The Joke.

951
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:48,079
Speaker 4: That was a good day for me.

952
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: It was so they they're like, yeah, so we kind

953
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,519
of saw it as a sister album to ours that

954
00:44:52,559 --> 00:44:54,519
we're going to cover what is a banger tune on there?

955
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,760
So quite not out right now, annoyingly, but I would

956
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,760
quite like to hear that particular cover. So there you go.

957
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,440
That is the news. We're gonna skip over questions this time,

958
00:45:02,519 --> 00:45:03,920
just because, as I said, it is late as we

959
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,559
are doing this, but we would come back to this

960
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,199
next week when Lincoln Park haven't reunited whatever quickly, little

961
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,519
Patreon moment. This follows on quite nicely. We had the

962
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:15,679
album club pack for the end of August went up

963
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,199
this past week, where we spoke about the debut album

964
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,960
from Wasp, We spoke about the Distillers sing Sing Deathhouse,

965
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,920
we spoke about Forgotten, and then unearthed sort of indie rock,

966
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:29,519
indie punk album Japandroids, which Sam, you got like really

967
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:31,079
obsessed with after hearing it.

968
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: For this, I'm not I've still.

969
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: Been listening to the album of all the ones that

970
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,119
an albums, the one I've kept going back to the

971
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,239
last couple of days. It's just it's completely won me over.

972
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I think, maybe unsurprisingly, the amount of

973
00:45:42,519 --> 00:45:45,079
the album that we kind of spoke the most lengthy

974
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,840
about and went into the most like Wow, so many

975
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,760
multi facet elements of this album and its legacy. Watt

976
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,039
Aan's The Wild Hunt album, which, if you've not heard

977
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:56,880
that conversation, is a fascinating black album to black album,

978
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,960
fucking black metal album to talk about in terms of

979
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,920
both its reception but also just how much it covers

980
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,920
in that The Wasp album Club, obviously recent events notwithstanding,

981
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:13,880
that was fascinating as well as Oway, wasn't it?

982
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,599
Speaker 4: It was good fun. It was good fun. Yeah, we

983
00:46:15,639 --> 00:46:16,800
had some disagreements, you know.

984
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, that song that you are saying can get in

985
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:23,719
the Bin is so fucking good to go back and

986
00:46:23,519 --> 00:46:26,039
back and re listen to it to a certain that

987
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:27,440
it was and I was like, yes, it's it's the

988
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,639
children who are Wrong that slams. Yeah, you go listen

989
00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:32,239
to all of that and all our discussions on those

990
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,360
albums that is at patreon dot com. Slash That's not

991
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,039
metal and then let's quickly get out of it with

992
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,480
some releases for early September. A couple that sort of

993
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,159
you know, I'm going to add on extended from last week,

994
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:48,599
but some extra things that are care across my path. First,

995
00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:51,199
we have a rat Lord with Blazed in the Northern Sky,

996
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,639
which is members of Blood Command doing some kind of

997
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,960
ridiculous sort of power violence, grind hardcore thing with as

998
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,320
you can tell from the time, just loads of like

999
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,239
punny Norwegian black metal titles because they're Norwegian and they

1000
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,400
can do that. And then there's also, if you are

1001
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,239
more on the kind of again sort of alternative emo

1002
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,079
side of thing, it's a band called Enumclaw, who I

1003
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:15,000
think are playing that outbreak autumn thing with Stories so

1004
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:16,960
Far and everything, and they've got a record home in

1005
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,320
Another life. Let's move on to today, the sixth of September.

1006
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:23,199
Boston Manor hav a new album out called Sun Dive

1007
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,360
and not a band I've particularly ever really cared about,

1008
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,480
but they are again more on the prominent kind of

1009
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:32,000
alternative rockside. They are out now. Forty What Sun return

1010
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:35,000
with an album called Little Wait, which comes much much

1011
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:38,679
sooner than forty What Sun albums usually like follow a

1012
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,920
preceding album. I have not yet gotten over the last one,

1013
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,159
so having another one so soon is quite jarring. But

1014
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,639
I fucking loved that last forty what Son album, so

1015
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,119
there is more to dive into there again. If you're

1016
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,679
not familiar for you, Whatsun. It's just incredible, sort of

1017
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,400
like x Doom but basically now sing a songwriter affair

1018
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,079
that will will absolutely sad. Music will absolutely break your heart.

1019
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,199
If you are like a dancing goth, then malt Chap

1020
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,000
Doma have a record out called Bala Poalosa, one of

1021
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,360
the most kind of like buzzy hypie like sort of

1022
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,519
goth dark wave type bands of like the last like

1023
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:12,239
five ten years or whatever. If you like sort of

1024
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,760
you know again, like strange out there kind of prog stuff.

1025
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,679
A Luke Todolu have an album out called Luxe. Blitzkree,

1026
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,079
the old again new every British heavy metal band famously

1027
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,199
covered Mametallica. They have got an album out called Blitzkree,

1028
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,920
and it's also worth noting they share a singer with Satan,

1029
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,119
so it's a big Brian coming back once again for Blitzkre.

1030
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,519
If you want some more heavy Metal. Then a band

1031
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:37,400
who if you were to ever hang out with with

1032
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,840
me and my friends on a night out, you would

1033
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,079
certainly hear the sounds of helvetitz Port and their new

1034
00:48:42,159 --> 00:48:46,400
album is called Warlord's Ridiculous Band. Moving into more underground

1035
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,960
fair God is an Astronaut have an album called Embers,

1036
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,039
a different sounding band but with God in the name.

1037
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:55,960
God Dethroned have an album called The Judas Paradox. Peeling Flesh.

1038
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,239
I think it's all one word, peeling Flesh. An album

1039
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,400
called The g Code who I'm not and I'm not

1040
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,480
like super familiar with them, but I think they're kind

1041
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,239
of like a slam band. But they're one of those

1042
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,320
slam bands who are becoming like quite buzzy in the

1043
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,840
hardcore world, and all the hardcore kids are like adopting them.

1044
00:49:09,199 --> 00:49:10,760
So Peeling Flash if you want to go and check

1045
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,519
out what that is about. And then we have a

1046
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:14,800
couple of EPs on the death course side. There's a

1047
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,440
bound called Body Snatcher who have got an album out,

1048
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,519
an EP out even called Vile Conduct and Laura Jane

1049
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,760
Grace and insert band name here. I've lost track of

1050
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,559
which one's fucking which I don't know if this is

1051
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,639
her like collaborating with someone, or if it's just like

1052
00:49:28,679 --> 00:49:30,719
a new name of her band or whatever. Laura Jane

1053
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Grace and the Mississippi Medicals have an EP called give

1054
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:35,519
an Inch Excited term.

1055
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,559
Speaker 3: I am like, I mean, it's come very quickly after

1056
00:49:38,599 --> 00:49:42,400
that last album, Like, but you know it's not against me.

1057
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,159
I'm still gonna sit there and be like, can you

1058
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:46,000
just get against me back? But of course I will

1059
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:47,559
go for new lawn Jaye Grace material.

1060
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:49,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she's got this out really quick after that

1061
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,639
last album, because that last album sounded like it took

1062
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,679
four seconds to fucking write and record.

1063
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: There you go.

1064
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,639
Speaker 1: That is it this week from us. Thank you very

1065
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,400
much for listening. Let us know what your take is

1066
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,480
on you know, everything we've discussed obviously the Lincoln Park

1067
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,519
return and the new song and everything like that, but

1068
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:09,440
anything else as well, and we will be back next

1069
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,559
week with more of this business as well. So thank

1070
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:15,519
you very much everybody, and cheerio. Bye bye

