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<v Speaker 1>Kenna Kenna eh Man. Yeah, welcome back to Calling All Beings.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm your co host Boston Via.

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<v Speaker 1>Get a namemen for that. I'll tell you what part

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<v Speaker 1>of people super happy to be here doing a damn thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We all tonight and what we're gonna do. We have

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<v Speaker 1>some cool stuff. We're gonna get an update on what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the the Miles King case with our very

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<v Speaker 1>uncourageous friend Adam Lally. Then we're gonna get into We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to watch with you the Missing for one

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<v Speaker 1>one bidness and we're gonna get your reactions to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Those reactions can be in the chat, those reactions can

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<v Speaker 1>be on the phone. But the promise I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>to you and the Boston BIA gonna make to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Jen, how are you is that it's gonna blow

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<v Speaker 1>your mind when you hear these these cases. These have

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<v Speaker 1>been covered, I believe by the great David Plaids, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're covered by a a content creator. We're gonna introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to tonight who's anonymous Hi lu LaBelle named X

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Missing. So I'm very excited about that. His content

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing the way high three Clark Monty, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Who else? Way? We have a valves in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>the official Attorney of Call calling all beings Valhalla Law

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<v Speaker 1>is here, The Rocker Chick is here. Hey? What's up?

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<v Speaker 3>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey doing he Let's see who else is here? Lady oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the great content creator, Lady Zelda Hella? How you like that? Hello?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm reready's out that you are right? I'm not?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>And also I want to put this up. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>get a photo. Okay, Yeah, let's let's do this damn

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<v Speaker 1>thing before we get into it, before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>talking about missing people. I'm gonna talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about Kelly Deaver. I know I said your name wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna throw a temper tantrum, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say this about uh miss right now,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know what, I'll call her the proper name

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<v Speaker 1>for the purposes of this conversation, Miss dev People call

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<v Speaker 1>me DeMarco as my last name. It's happened a zillion

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<v Speaker 1>times in my life. Okay. But if I'm sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>the stand of a murder trial where a woman can

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<v Speaker 1>go to to jail for second degree murder, the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing you don't want to act like in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like that like a little baby is you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to act like like she did. No, not you, Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about I'm talking about this one. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get her up on the screen, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me get yeah yeah, So go ahead, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>can you expand on that a little bit? What you

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<v Speaker 1>saw in her testimony.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it just wasn't very becoming of a sworn police

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<v Speaker 3>officer my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>It just seemed I mean, for somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's supposed to I mean police police officers are trained

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<v Speaker 3>on how to you know, going to court as part

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<v Speaker 3>of their job, right like they this is part of

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<v Speaker 3>their training, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Just didn't show it.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't come across as unbiased, she didn't come across

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<v Speaker 3>as professional in any way. So it was just very immature,

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<v Speaker 3>definitely very you know, just not what you would expect

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<v Speaker 3>from a police police officer, no matter how young they were.

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<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, I mean that you don't want to you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to act. Oh yet it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they've got the photo I found of her, they haven't said,

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<v Speaker 1>as a web app, so they don't want me to

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<v Speaker 1>download it, which is so these people are so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>They make it like they created the artwork, and it's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, like you did create this man? You know

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<v Speaker 1>I got news for you. You did not invent the artwork.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a photograph of Kelly Deaver. I mean, like,

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<v Speaker 1>get over yourself, man, really, So I'll see if it'll

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<v Speaker 1>let me down, download it and show it. What I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to do, like what I had to do with Lally,

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<v Speaker 1>was I had to get a specific app in order

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<v Speaker 1>to convert that, to convert that to a different file

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<v Speaker 1>so that I could show it. Because yeah, they did

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with this one. Yeah, they're like little

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<v Speaker 1>little children. They you know what, there's another way I

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<v Speaker 1>can show it. So guess what, a CB whatever, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to keep me from showing it, because what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do is I'm gonna show this resent present, Hobs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Here we go, all right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll share this one. Uh there it is, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody can see multitudes of her face right now,

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<v Speaker 1>much to your chagrin. Very unprofessional, And I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the substance of what of what she did

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<v Speaker 1>and what she said when she said I'm required to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth or I lose my job. And and

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<v Speaker 1>and then what she actually did talk about that would

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<v Speaker 1>you be a sure?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she said she went to the Commissioner's office

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<v Speaker 3>and she was told do the right thing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>subsequent to her testifying, Commissioner Cox said, I've never I've

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<v Speaker 3>never talked to her. So who's lying here? Is it

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<v Speaker 3>Commissioner Cox or is it Kelly Dever?

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<v Speaker 1>I both actually both because she didn't want to characterize.

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<v Speaker 1>She first of all, she had trouble characterizing what the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the conversation was. But then she eventually said,

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<v Speaker 1>he stands by his officers. I said, we support you.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he was like he didn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>admit that he knew her and had a conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about Karen.

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<v Speaker 2>Read So did she have another false memory?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Another false memory? And the thing the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is when you said, and I'm talking to you now, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>you said you sworn oath. You said, I swore an oath.

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<v Speaker 1>This is part of my job. You know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do this, I get fired. You know, all these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of things. And what you really missed is the

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<v Speaker 1>what oath really matters. Is it the oath that you

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<v Speaker 1>swear in court, is it your sworn oath as an

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<v Speaker 1>officer of the law, or is it the unsworn oath,

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<v Speaker 1>the unwritten rule that no matter what other officers do,

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<v Speaker 1>you support them. What's more important, what can you rank

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<v Speaker 1>them for me? One, two, and three?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say, are you asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you asking? So I'm asking her? I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you, if you want to add to what I've said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have some.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought because her being a swarm police officer and her

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<v Speaker 3>taking an oath on the stand should be one and

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<v Speaker 3>the same because at the end of the day, it

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<v Speaker 3>should be exactly how it happened and should be the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So those two should match.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it should be the truth. But the then there's

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<v Speaker 1>the unwritten rule that Alan made reference to that she

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<v Speaker 1>would not admit to. And she said, I don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're gonna sit there to us and okay, you're

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<v Speaker 1>telling me is you swore You're gonna lie on the

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<v Speaker 1>stand and say there may been cameras in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I don't know what they were showing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a liar. Yeah, you went on television and you

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<v Speaker 1>lied in front of everybody. You lied because you know

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<v Speaker 1>you work there. You know if are you ninety years old,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't remember what happened you know two years ago

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<v Speaker 1>that inside CPD. You know in your age in your twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember everything. That's what's so great about being in

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<v Speaker 1>your teens in your twenties is you remember. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the sad things is everything stupid you did and every

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<v Speaker 1>time you were embarrassed. You remember every one of those

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<v Speaker 1>moments in your teens, in your twenties, in your thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as you get older, you start to forget

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<v Speaker 1>and people have to remind you. That's why we have

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<v Speaker 1>these high school Going to my high school reunion, people

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<v Speaker 1>can remind me of what an idiot I was, or

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<v Speaker 1>something I did at a party or said. So you lied,

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<v Speaker 1>And let me ask you this of the sworn oath

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<v Speaker 1>as an officer and as as the oath that you took,

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<v Speaker 1>uh do you swear to tell truth, hold truth, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but the truth? So help you God, I do. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then you go on there and lie, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that if you're successful, is Tim, Hi, Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome jam the nidos. If you go on there and

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<v Speaker 1>you lie and you're successful, a woman goes to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Reid, another Massachusetts born and raised girl like yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that okay?

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<v Speaker 3>And never mind the fact that it was as a

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<v Speaker 3>direct result of her testifying when she were not testifying,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, when she was questioned by the Feds. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the whole thing she's trying to spin into a

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<v Speaker 3>false memory. Is something that she voluntarily gave to them

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<v Speaker 3>and then tried to walk it back. So it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like somebody said, like, she this is what she said

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<v Speaker 3>to the Feds.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she that's because she knew. And when Alan tried

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<v Speaker 1>to ask her, did they tell you would be prosecuted

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a crime to lie to them? And

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<v Speaker 1>she she didn't want to admit that. And then she

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<v Speaker 1>she says to him, and you told me on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think thought Alan should have answered her back

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<v Speaker 1>in court that when she said that, you told me

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to file charges again. No, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a prosecutor anymore, although I was for sixteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't file charges as a defense attorney. Dummy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Hifina Vena's here, but and thank you demonstrating loyalty was

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<v Speaker 1>much more important to her than credibility. Immature, unprofessional demeanor

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<v Speaker 1>was demonstrating her extreme loyalty to the PPD slash her tribe.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, val, That's exactly what it was. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she forced to lie in the stand by the well?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, nobody can force you stand by the

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<v Speaker 1>commission and then said he didn't know who she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Would that be grounds for her to sue him? Does

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<v Speaker 1>the commissioner's order trump? Well, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>when you go in front of court, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>do it all the time. I mean police officers probably

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<v Speaker 1>lie every single day in a court somewhere. And I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say probably, they do, and that's not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they just look at it as that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the job. It's either them or us. But ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you're out there, you're at the cape, you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking barbecue with your husband or boyfriend whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think is also a cop. And this lady

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<v Speaker 1>goes to jail Aaron Reid. But it's okay, It's totally

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<v Speaker 1>okay if Reid goes to jail because of the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, you had to support these other officers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, it's just part of it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So what if she goes to jail, I'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>her on the I'll change the channel, you know, give

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<v Speaker 1>me the remote when they do it. When I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, you know, I turn on in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>happens to be ond and her profiling Karen Reid at

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<v Speaker 1>a women's prison, and she has an orange jumpsuit. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, cool, I mean because I had to protect Higgins, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But protect Higgins at what costs to now never be

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<v Speaker 3>trusted again? Because you can't believe anything that this, you

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<v Speaker 3>know that she says.

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<v Speaker 2>She can't.

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<v Speaker 3>This could literally be a condition.

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<v Speaker 1>But how did be a how how is this girl

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<v Speaker 1>this is cool? Man, Higgins may have participated in the murder.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw he and Berkie hanging out, hanging.

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<v Speaker 2>Out for usually long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, an unusually long time. And she actually used another

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and and and that's okay. That's so, it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>if Karen goes to prison, as long as we protect Higgins.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't get it. Fuck Higgins. If Higgins

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<v Speaker 1>he can go suck it up and explain to explain

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<v Speaker 1>But then I find another job, and you know, some

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<v Speaker 1>up and until you get on this Brady list. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you've got problems. If you go to Caneli's Park and

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<v Speaker 1>not a problem. Just go you know what, I resigned

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. You know what that Sheriff's gonna say, be you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm proud of you for telling the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Steve, the North Carolina police officer we had on right,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah cool? And how about the North Carolina trooper that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not. You know, we don't do that here. Man

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<v Speaker 1>or even Sheriff Eric Ayden down there in Fort Walton

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't understand what she thought, like like by

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<v Speaker 3>her walking that statement back, by her protecting Higgins, exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what was gonna was it worth her losing her career?

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<v Speaker 1>Like well she she obviously didn't look that far into it.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Is her boyfriend or husband a cop?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't know. I think I don't think she's married,

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<v Speaker 1>Her boyfriend's a cop. Is her boyfriend? If someone in

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<v Speaker 1>the chat can clear this up for us, Hi, Coco,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? How is I'm sorry, how's Brian doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I'm just kidding. I was just kidd that's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be funny. Do a fake laugh now, thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a fake laugh, thank you? Yes, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So so yeah, I don't think she thought that far

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<v Speaker 1>or she didn't consult. I can't speak to what was

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<v Speaker 1>in her mind other than to do the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And and what should have been in her mind is

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I can walk in and resign tomorrow

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<v Speaker 1>and I can go get a job elsewhere, and my

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<v Speaker 1>jacket is clean. My jacket is clean because you know

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I went and I applied for a

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<v Speaker 1>police academy, uh, and actually was accepted to a police

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<v Speaker 1>academy which was in Brevard County in Florida, And they

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<v Speaker 1>had patches on the wall from at least one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>different police institutions that came and spoke at that academy,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, that jacket follows you everywhere. So what

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<v Speaker 1>you do in this department, it's not like it might

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<v Speaker 1>have been in the you know, the seventies or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even the early eighties. That jacket from when you started

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<v Speaker 1>this academy, that jacket goes with you everywhere you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and her jacket is clean. If she goes to somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even think she has to leave the state personally.

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<v Speaker 1>You think Great Barrington cares what these ass wipes do

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<v Speaker 1>in Canton, PD. I don't think so. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know that some of the troopers necessarily care. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>neither here nor there. It could have been Rhode Island,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been New York, it could have been

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, it could have been Maryland, whatever, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But what she did do is now she has a

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<v Speaker 1>dirty record because of the stupid Rady thing. But that

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be her biggest concern. Her biggest concern should be

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<v Speaker 1>Karen effing Red. That should be her concern. This woman

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<v Speaker 1>almost went to jail for doing nothing but dropping her

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend off at this home, and these animals covered it

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<v Speaker 1>up and put him out in the snow. And unless

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<v Speaker 1>you're an idiot, you know that. And none of you

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<v Speaker 1>are idiots, not even you anti Karen Reid not even Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>not even Kate. Kate knows what happened that night. Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>knows what happened that night. All of these morons know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened that night. They're just doing this for another

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<v Speaker 1>they have another reason. Let's get her off the stage

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<v Speaker 1>and get this guy on there, tough guy here. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get this tough guy on there, Ti get away.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. He You know, we were expecting him to continue

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<v Speaker 3>with you know, his his his testimony, and you know

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't happen. The judge got stuck on wanting a

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<v Speaker 3>spreadsheet after the defense attorney, what is it? Scipechio said,

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<v Speaker 3>some meat buzz. So anyways, you know, this poor defense

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<v Speaker 3>attorney that morning got dumped two hundred pages of discovery

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<v Speaker 3>just before the hearing, had gotten dumped the previous three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred pages. She was still sorting through everything, and now

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<v Speaker 3>the judge and she had her own spreadsheet that the

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<v Speaker 3>judge looks at and he's like, well, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to read this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to read this, and made.

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<v Speaker 3>Her now go sit for three hours with the prosecutor

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<v Speaker 3>cross referencing and on top of each document in which

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<v Speaker 3>she was trying to say that is that not all

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<v Speaker 3>the documents, like the documents she had been receiving all along,

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't labeled correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't what they said the documents were.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't what was you know, in the in the files

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<v Speaker 3>Like she's totally you know, and I'm surprised she didn't

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<v Speaker 3>fight harder. But I mean, I guess as an attorney,

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<v Speaker 3>you know when to pick your battles. But the judge

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<v Speaker 3>definitely had attitude. He was definitely trying to protect.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott Guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, Scotty boy, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading No, no, no, it's just no, I

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<v Speaker 3>was just reading Scotty, Scotty.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying twenty plus years making the donut, we gotta make

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<v Speaker 1>the donuts of here in Joycyda. Meet Baul Morrissey Lelly

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<v Speaker 1>could give zero fs anymore exactly. I mean that, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Mark Beto pointed this out ad nauseam and better

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<v Speaker 1>than I'll ever say it is that he just looked apathetic, uninterested. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less. I would say this to Adam. You know, Adam,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gone, You've put a bunch of people on the stand.

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<v Speaker 1>This is our new mod by the way, Scott McGinnis,

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<v Speaker 1>you put a bunch of people on the stand, and

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<v Speaker 1>you then along with Meatball Myerscy, you hired this attack

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<v Speaker 1>dog in Hank Brennan, who takes probably one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most distinguished women in the last you know, thirty years

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<v Speaker 1>out of Boston, forty years in a woman who was

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<v Speaker 1>that died and she left was seven years a police officer,

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<v Speaker 1>then goes to medical school, then is trained in emergency medicine,

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<v Speaker 1>country hospital in a rural area that serves just a

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<v Speaker 1>prestigious hospital in the southern part of California, like from

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<v Speaker 1>on down the UCLA Medical Center. And then you guys

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<v Speaker 1>go and you tear this woman apart and try to

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<v Speaker 1>embarrass her and spend her money to get her to

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<v Speaker 1>come back, what three four times at least at least

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<v Speaker 1>twice during the last wad year and you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys, you guys are using this little punchline

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<v Speaker 1>for Karen Reid called a lawyer right away, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't even go on the stand and defend yourself against

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<v Speaker 1>against your actions as DA. You look like a coward, Sir,

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<v Speaker 1>you look like a punk in a bedro said he is.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was better or brother. Counsel said,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a lawyer in and this is just

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<v Speaker 1>an evidentiary hearing. Bring in a personal attorney. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like your, uh, what's that lady's name, Carrie Morrisey in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the Alec Baldwin trial where you're literally in

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been a good time to bring an attorney. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Kerry Morrissey, Hi, peaches, how are you are you in season?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I'm sure teaches are in season, so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, uh, you bring an attorney to go up

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<v Speaker 1>and just defend your actions. You're a coward. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to call people up there and to stand and

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<v Speaker 1>throw your hands around and you know, play with your glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you know, why couldn't you just go out there

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<v Speaker 1>and say, yeah, I went and I followed the proper procedures,

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<v Speaker 1>I followed protocols, and I asked for these materials for

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<v Speaker 1>the uh the.

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<v Speaker 2>Search exactly what you just said, is the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no procedures, there was no policy, there was

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<v Speaker 3>no Tickler system.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't. Oh, I don't know. We really don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well why couldn't he answer that? Then? Why do you

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<v Speaker 1>need a lawyer for that lawyer? I object? He can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the procedures in the DA's office. Right, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the whole problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was he gonna say? I object? He's gonna say, overruled? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>please answer? What are your procedures? Yeah, mister Lally, how

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<v Speaker 1>many times did you ask trooper former Trooper Proctor for

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<v Speaker 1>those other five point five search ones? I object? Overruled,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Lally? How many times did you ask? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this for? Howard? All Right?

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<v Speaker 3>It just thinks that Judge Cropp this time just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, with Proctor there with with his attorney,

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<v Speaker 3>Adam there, Adam Lally there with his attorney, like it

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<v Speaker 3>was just such a waste of time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he doesn't, No, No, their best he is here,

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<v Speaker 1>so make sure recognition. All Right, We've had enough of

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<v Speaker 1>these punching bags for tonight. I'm kicking me out of

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<v Speaker 1>the studio.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're back on the twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>So we don't know if they're going to be, if

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<v Speaker 3>Proctor's coming back, if Lally's coming back with his attorney,

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<v Speaker 3>because right now Adam Lally isn't even covering this case

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<v Speaker 3>has gone to another prosecutor, so he's not even the

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<v Speaker 3>pro no longer the prosecutor on the on the Miles

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the Okay, in one second, I want to bring

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<v Speaker 1>here go my pro adults. Ah, shame, Mike good Man. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to share screen real quickly because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to preview that Saturday. We are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>if so if this is I'm sorry, if this has

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<v Speaker 1>been released, and I I don't know if did I

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<v Speaker 1>keep this? Where's it coming soon? I'm sorry? I got

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong here. I think I share it. Okay, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I and I meant to share his YouTube, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll I have something better that I want to share. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so just give me a second. We get paid by

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<v Speaker 1>the hour here, so it's okay, it's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh window where is okay? Okay, so this one right here.

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<v Speaker 1>If this is released, I've spoke with Richie, we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to watch this together, and we're gonna bring who

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<v Speaker 1>to come and talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, our favorite attorney, well, we can't say our favorite

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<v Speaker 3>law attorney.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we even bring one of our favorite attorneys,

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<v Speaker 1>our dear friend Nan Gallaga. Yes, and we're also gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say Massachusetts like Scott and say Massachusetts, I got you, Scotty.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So yeah, if this is released, Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sharing so much. Richie has authorized us to air it

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about it. So that's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And now gallagh or will be here to react. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let me shut off the music because we have we

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<v Speaker 1>have something we want to share with you. Guys. We

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<v Speaker 1>have been watching this content creator called x Zone and

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<v Speaker 1>he has some amazing stuff that has blown my mind

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<v Speaker 1>and we think it is also going to blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that, we are going to watch it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You are you are authorized to call us if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will if you want to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can just react in the chat. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Before I do that real quickly, I want to just

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<v Speaker 1>share the cab store. Uh let me, yes, I'm the shirts. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me share this with you and if

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<v Speaker 1>so here it is. This is the Calling All Beings

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<v Speaker 1>Merch Store. And you can see there are many different

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<v Speaker 1>colors the colors you're seeing. You could have blue, you

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<v Speaker 1>could have yellow, you could have pink of those of

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<v Speaker 1>these items. So there's water bottles, there's mugs. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you choose this is not a money making venture. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really just spreading the word about calling all beings. So

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<v Speaker 1>you can just come here and click men, women accessories

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<v Speaker 1>and then choose the colors that you want. That is

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<v Speaker 1>the Calling All Beings Merch Store. So feel free.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh, click on the true Crime so we can

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<v Speaker 2>see the logo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, ma'am, oh am, I not on true crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Well right now you're just showing that. Yeah, it's further

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<v Speaker 3>down right there, that's the True Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah okay, oh yeah, but there's more than just this shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, okay, So yeah, here's a there's a women's

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<v Speaker 1>shirt here. Uh, there's many, there's different Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's I don't know more than there's a dozen different

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<v Speaker 1>colors here that you can order these in depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>what your what's your flavorites. So so anyway, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this is the TCU merch, and then there's the

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<v Speaker 1>UFO merch whichever your preferences. No wrong answer to that

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<v Speaker 1>test question, plus the stickers. All right here there's the

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<v Speaker 1>the logo there, so yeah uh. And also you can

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<v Speaker 1>see there's TCU water bottles, mugs, hoodies and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, enough of that, we're gonna go to some

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<v Speaker 1>inexplicable things now, so let me bring that up. And

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I believe this is gonna blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It blew our minds. And then i'd like to get

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<v Speaker 1>your takes on. So let's start with the tourists, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go with someone named Sarah Levin. So don't

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<v Speaker 1>freak out, guys, it's not Sarah Levinson. She hasn't gone

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<v Speaker 1>to Yosemite. I know some of you wish that she

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<v Speaker 1>would get lost, but she hasn't. So there you go,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's listen. Tell me if you can hear it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah Levin, a thirty one year old San Francisco resident,

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<v Speaker 4>decided in April nineteen ninety seven to take a mini

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<v Speaker 4>trip to Yosemite National Park to escape the hustle and

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<v Speaker 4>bustle of city life. She had a short weekend off

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<v Speaker 4>between work schedules, and according to her friends, Sarah had

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<v Speaker 4>long been eyeing the legendary Mistrail leading to the majestic

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<v Speaker 4>Vernal Fall in Nevada Fall. This trail is known for

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<v Speaker 4>its beauty and popularity, even in spring, when the waters

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<v Speaker 4>are full and the spray from the waterfall can turn

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<v Speaker 4>the path into a real water show. Sarah, being athletic

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<v Speaker 4>and loving a challenge, decided that April, when the snow

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<v Speaker 4>had not yet completely melted on the peaks and the

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<v Speaker 4>waterflow was strong, was the perfect time to see Yosemite

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<v Speaker 4>and all its pristine glory. Dot Early in the morning

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<v Speaker 4>on April twelfth, nineteen ninety seven, Sarah arrived at the

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<v Speaker 4>park in her car parked in Yosemite Valley, registered her

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<v Speaker 4>route at the ranger station, and informed them that she

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<v Speaker 4>planned to hike the mist Trail, admire Vernal Falls, and

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<v Speaker 4>if she had time, reach Nevada and return by evening.

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<v Speaker 4>The weather was clear and relatively warm, with the sun

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<v Speaker 4>shining and only a light breeze occasionally bringing cool air

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<v Speaker 4>from the canyons. No one, including Sarah herself, imagined that

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<v Speaker 4>this day's hike would turn into one of the most

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<v Speaker 4>inexplicable episodes in the park's history. Despite its popularity, the

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<v Speaker 4>Mist Trail has sections of very slippery stone steps, especially

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<v Speaker 4>in the spring when spray from the waterfall drenches everything

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<v Speaker 4>around it. However, Sarah was in excellent physical shape.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way.

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<v Speaker 4>She at several tourists and exchanged a few words with

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<v Speaker 4>them about the route. Later, many of them recalled how

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<v Speaker 4>happy and cheerful she looked, saying that she radiated positivity.

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<v Speaker 4>When it was almost noon, according to one group, Sarah

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<v Speaker 4>was sitting on a rock at the viewpoint above Vernal,

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<v Speaker 4>snacking and taking pictures of the rainbow in the spray

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<v Speaker 4>of the waterfall. She told someone that she would continue

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<v Speaker 4>along the Mist Trail a little further, but did not

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<v Speaker 4>intend to linger too long. At one pm, she spoke

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<v Speaker 4>briefly with a ranger passing by, reporting that everything was

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<v Speaker 4>fine and the trail was not too slippery. The trail

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<v Speaker 4>then climbs towards Nevada Falls, passing through a pine and

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<v Speaker 4>fir glade. At around two pm, according to two hikers,

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah was still walking up the trail, but no one

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<v Speaker 4>saw her after that, and then around three pm, at

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<v Speaker 4>a time when the trail is usually busy, something very

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<v Speaker 4>unusual happened as a small group of three young people

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<v Speaker 4>who were climbing a little higher later reported, we were

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<v Speaker 4>walking along the mistrail when we suddenly noticed a strange

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<v Speaker 4>fog appearing in the clear sky. It enveloped part of

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<v Speaker 4>the trail for literally a minute, visibility was almost zero,

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<v Speaker 4>and then it all dissipated in clear weather. Fog over

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<v Speaker 4>the trail is not uncommon spray evaporation, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>unusual for it to be so thick and disappear so quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, a woman who was photographing the

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<v Speaker 4>waterfalls claimed that at that time she saw a girl,

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<v Speaker 4>presumably Sarah, standing on a flat section of the trail.

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<v Speaker 4>In a second, everything was covered in a grayish fog.

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<v Speaker 4>She looked away from the camera, and when she looked back,

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<v Speaker 4>there was no one there, as if the person had disappeared.

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<v Speaker 4>She decided that she had just moved away because she

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<v Speaker 4>was scared of the spray. However, in the evening, when

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah did not return to the car and did not

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<v Speaker 4>get in touch, alarm bell started ringing. In Yosemite, if

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<v Speaker 4>someone doesn't show up by nightfall, they may have been

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<v Speaker 4>delayed by photography or gone camping, but Sarah's friends and family,

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<v Speaker 4>whom she had told about her plans, were worried. By midnight,

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<v Speaker 4>the rangers knew that a tourist was missing on the mistrail.

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<v Speaker 4>At dawn, search and rescue teams arrived at the trail,

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<v Speaker 4>combing every turn, crevice and rock ledge. The result was zero.

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<v Speaker 4>There were no signs of a struggle on the rocky terrain.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah's clothes or backpack were nowhere to be found. Everything

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<v Speaker 4>looked untouched, as if a person had simply vanished into

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<v Speaker 4>thin air. The story of a thick fog in a

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<v Speaker 4>perfectly clear sky was particularly puzzling. The place where it

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<v Speaker 4>was spotted was found, but there were no signs that

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<v Speaker 4>anyone had fallen or damaged anything there. Dogs that picked

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<v Speaker 4>up Sarah's scent from her car climbed the mist trail

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<v Speaker 4>to a certain point, then began to run around, losing

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<v Speaker 4>the trail. On the stone steps from Vernal Falls to

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<v Speaker 4>the clearing near Nevada. It would be logical to expect

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<v Speaker 4>that someone would have seen or heard a scream, but

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<v Speaker 4>there was nothing. Tourists who climbed up later reported that

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<v Speaker 4>the trail was deserted for a certain stretch, and that

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<v Speaker 4>they heard no noise other than the usual roar of

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<v Speaker 4>the waterfall. A week of extensive searches yielded no clues.

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<v Speaker 4>The California State Police even called in a helicopter to

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<v Speaker 4>search the area. Perhaps the tourist had strayed from the

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<v Speaker 4>trail and fallen into the canyon, but there were no

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<v Speaker 4>signs of a fall. If a person had fallen, there

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<v Speaker 4>would usually be broken vegetation and a body.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to pause this for one second, Cabbys,

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<v Speaker 1>the part that's going to freak you out. You now

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<v Speaker 1>understand that Sarah Levin went missing, and this is in nine,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety seven. Now we're getting to the part that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to blow your mind. Just want to I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get you set up for that, because that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>about to happen. Let me turn the volume up a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. See how this works.

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<v Speaker 4>No bodies, belongings, or backpacks were found in the water. Then,

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<v Speaker 4>a month after Sarah's disappearance, there was a strange turn

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<v Speaker 4>of events. Her personal belongings were found in the very

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<v Speaker 4>place where, according to witnesses, she could have disappeared into

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<v Speaker 4>the fog. A group of tourists passing by noticed neatly

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<v Speaker 4>folded items on a rock, a cap, a water bottle,

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<v Speaker 4>and a small notebook nearby. The most surprising thing was

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<v Speaker 4>that this place had been searched many times before and

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<v Speaker 4>nothing had been found. The police and rangers were completely baffled.

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<v Speaker 4>How could the items have appeared after such a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>The dogs were called in and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think you should hear it better now because I turned

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube volume up. Yeah, by the way, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad this is better. This is not what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to freak you out. That's still coming. That they found

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<v Speaker 1>her stuff a month later, after an area that had

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<v Speaker 1>been searched that was a common obvious place. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to freak you out is coming.

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<v Speaker 4>And again, but to no avail. It was as if

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<v Speaker 4>the items had been planted there. Maybe someone wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>send a message, but it looked as if they hadn't

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<v Speaker 4>been there long. They weren't dusty or wet. Sarah's parents said,

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<v Speaker 4>this is ridiculous, playing a prank, but there were no

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<v Speaker 4>clues as to the possible perpetrator. In the end, the

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<v Speaker 4>case was classified as missing, no traces found. The case

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<v Speaker 4>joined the sad list of mysterious disappearances in Yosemite. However,

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<v Speaker 4>the story did not end there. A year after her disappearance,

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<v Speaker 4>in early spring nineteen ninety eight, the police suddenly received

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<v Speaker 4>a call from tourists. We found a girl at Misstrail.

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<v Speaker 4>She's wandering around, looks scared, as if she doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on. The rangers who arrived identified the young

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<v Speaker 4>woman as Sarah Levin. She was wearing the same outfit

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<v Speaker 4>she had worn a year earlier, although it was slightly

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<v Speaker 4>dirty but not worn to shreds. Upon examination, doctors found

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<v Speaker 4>no wounds, severe exhaustion, or any signs of frostbite. She

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<v Speaker 4>seemed confused and did not understand why everyone around her

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<v Speaker 4>was saying that a year had passed. During a brief interrogation,

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah said, I got lost for a day, lost my

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<v Speaker 4>way after that strange fog, but then I found on

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<v Speaker 4>my way back. Has a year passed? That's impossible. Indeed,

626
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<v Speaker 4>she felt that her disappearance had lasted no more than

627
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<v Speaker 4>a day. According to her fellow geologists and the police,

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<v Speaker 4>it seemed so inexplicable that doctors ran a series of tests,

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<v Speaker 4>believing she might have memory loss or a mental disorder,

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<v Speaker 4>but they found nothing wrong. She herself remembered all the

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<v Speaker 4>details of her last day as if it were yesterday,

632
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<v Speaker 4>not a year ago. Time had frozen for her. The

633
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<v Speaker 4>psychologist noted only slight anxiety, but nothing more. Unfortunately, this

634
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<v Speaker 4>incredible story did not receive much publicity. How could a

635
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<v Speaker 4>person be missing in Yosemite for a year and then

636
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<v Speaker 4>suddenly show up thinking that only a day had passed.

637
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<v Speaker 4>The police were unable to provide an official explanation, simply

638
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<v Speaker 4>documenting the facts. Sarah disappeared in April nineteen ninety seven

639
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<v Speaker 4>and reappeared in April nineteen ninety eight in the same area.

640
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<v Speaker 4>There were no signs of violence, her body was healthy,

641
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<v Speaker 4>and her clothes did not look like they had been

642
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<v Speaker 4>worn for a year of wandering. It's as if she

643
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<v Speaker 4>fell out of reality, whispered the volunteers. Sarah's relatives thanked.

644
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<v Speaker 1>Warp Wow.

645
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<v Speaker 4>Yosemite, previously known for its mystical stories, now has another

646
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<v Speaker 4>strange episode where a person who disappeared under mysterious circumstances

647
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.320
<v Speaker 4>returns a year later, believing that only a day has passed. Moreover,

648
00:41:26.400 --> 00:41:29.519
<v Speaker 4>her belongings were found on the trail, But then the

649
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 4>girl herself claims that she did not lose any of

650
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<v Speaker 4>her belongings and that her cap and notebook were with

651
00:41:34.800 --> 00:41:38.239
<v Speaker 4>her at all times before she disappeared. The official police

652
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<v Speaker 4>version there is insufficient evidence to explain the disappearance, It

653
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<v Speaker 4>does not appear to be a hoax, and no mental

654
00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:51.199
<v Speaker 4>disorder has been diagnosed. The case remains unsolved. Contemporary commentators

655
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 4>who respect the scientific approach prefer to talk about the

656
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 4>phenomenon of dissociated fugue. But even this hypothesis does not

657
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<v Speaker 4>explain how she saw, where she hid for a year,

658
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<v Speaker 4>and why she did not change during that time. For

659
00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 4>enthusiasts of paranormal theories, this is a direct indication of

660
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<v Speaker 4>a time slip, another reality, or some kind of anomaly.

661
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<v Speaker 4>Yosemite continues to keep its secrets, and Sarah Levin's story

662
00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 4>has been added to the files on highly mysterious and

663
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:24.719
<v Speaker 4>frightening disappearances where nature itself seems to be playing with humans,

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<v Speaker 4>blurring the boundaries of time and logic.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Cabby's uh, that is s xzone missing and

666
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<v Speaker 1>take it away? Yeah, what do you got?

667
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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's very bizarre. The fact that she just time

668
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:53.519
<v Speaker 3>hadn't changed for her. She was still in the same outfit.

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<v Speaker 3>She thought it was just yesterday. Like, that's just crazy.

670
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, very very bizarre.

671
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<v Speaker 3>And then that her belongings had been returned before she

672
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<v Speaker 3>was returned.

673
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<v Speaker 2>Or came back.

674
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well her, Yeah, her belongings were found. Did they

675
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:19.199
<v Speaker 1>say a month later?

676
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they said it was before, right,

677
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:24.360
<v Speaker 3>it was before she came back?

678
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, but I mean a month after she went missing?

679
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, Yeah.

680
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:33.559
<v Speaker 1>But her clothes could not I mean, with those clothes,

681
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't survive a winter in Yosemite. There are not

682
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:40.280
<v Speaker 1>inches of snow, there are many feet of snow. That's

683
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:45.159
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Val, It's it's crazy. Yes, Scott, that

684
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:52.159
<v Speaker 1>was funny waterfall. But her clothes weren't wet and terrifying, you.

685
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<v Speaker 3>Know, jewels, and she wasn't Yeah, and she wasn't malnourished.

686
00:43:57.199 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>She wasn't.

687
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 3>She didn't have any kind of visible sign of any

688
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 3>trauma either.

689
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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, you had to have subsisted per year. Her

690
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>clothes would have been I mean a lot of people

691
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know because they haven't spent a significant amount of

692
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 1>times out in the woods. But your clothes get damaged

693
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:21.840
<v Speaker 1>much more when there are branches and leaves and rocks

694
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and terrain than there is with your office chair, your car,

695
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>your sofa. Those are just clothes. One month, Thank you,

696
00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Linda Mitchell. So yeah, it's it's your clothes would be

697
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>very badly damaged and you you couldn't survive without a

698
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of outer wear. I mean you would you look

699
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like a different person. The length of her hair, I

700
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.519
<v Speaker 1>mean she would just look like a different person. Her

701
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>face would be dirty, you know, unless you're showering. It's

702
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>it's uh, it's it's fascinating. And and the fact that

703
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<v Speaker 1>they couldn't find her. We're going to give you this

704
00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 1>is X Zone missing on YouTube. We put the it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes for this episode along with David

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<v Speaker 1>Polides for one one. David Polides is the granddaddy of

707
00:45:13.280 --> 00:45:17.400
<v Speaker 1>this genre, former detective from San Jose who found out

708
00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that there are more people missing from Yosemite National Park

709
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:28.800
<v Speaker 1>than anywhere on Earth, according to David, and I don't

710
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 1>think he would make that up.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, because we heard about Eric Larson from Yosemite and

712
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:39.199
<v Speaker 3>that was in eighty nine, so that was eleven years later. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, eighty nine, And what am I saying? This

714
00:45:41.800 --> 00:45:44.000
<v Speaker 3>was a ninety seven I'm sorry, eleven years earlier.

715
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<v Speaker 1>Earlier. Yes, yeah, and we've got more. So we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do I want to do a let me see if

717
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<v Speaker 1>this is the one. I want to do one about

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<v Speaker 1>the the rangers that have gone missing. It's really really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And imagine what happens to your body, your how

720
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<v Speaker 3>you age in a year. I mean just simple things

721
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<v Speaker 3>like you know, leg hair, like all the things that

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<v Speaker 3>would have happened in that time frame, in a year

723
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<v Speaker 3>that she was found, just like she was just seeing

724
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<v Speaker 3>the day before, right, very I mean her hair would

725
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.480
<v Speaker 3>have been longer, her you know, her hair would have

726
00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:24.119
<v Speaker 3>been longer.

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00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she would have looked like a different person. You

728
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>get very dirty. I've spent like a week in survival

729
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.840
<v Speaker 1>school without showering. You look very dirty. I mean after

730
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:41.840
<v Speaker 1>a week, it's it's yeah. I mean I did mine

731
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<v Speaker 1>in Washington State where I did mine, which is not

732
00:46:46.239 --> 00:46:52.199
<v Speaker 1>dissimilar to how it is here. Yeah. So okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>this one right here is about park park rangers that

734
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<v Speaker 1>we're missing. So we think of the amount of tourists

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<v Speaker 1>who have gone missing. There was a church group that

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<v Speaker 1>they talk about. I can't remember that person's name. Where

737
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:09.519
<v Speaker 1>they went on a well traveled trail that not dozens,

738
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 1>but hundreds of people travel on this trail from the

739
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:17.480
<v Speaker 1>basin every day. And someone from a church group someday

740
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:19.599
<v Speaker 1>turned around and he was gone. There are people who

741
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>have gone missing from the open areas, not even in

742
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.239
<v Speaker 1>the forest. Well, these are rangers. These are the most

743
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:29.960
<v Speaker 1>adept people in the woods, and these stories are hunting.

744
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<v Speaker 1>So let me let us play this and get you

745
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<v Speaker 1>to react. By the way, the jackass who keeps calling

746
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.880
<v Speaker 1>with unknown number, You remember that guy who's called a

747
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of times. Yep, Yeah, that douchebag. Okay, we're not

748
00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 1>answering your call. We're not gonna answer your call. And

749
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<v Speaker 1>if anybody calls where I can't see your number, I'm

750
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 1>not answering. And if it's you, I'm gonna hang up

751
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>on you and you're gonna look like more of an

752
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.639
<v Speaker 1>idiot than you already look like. So don't make an

753
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>ass out of yourself anymore than you already have on

754
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:02.119
<v Speaker 1>air a couple times acting like a jackass with Nan.

755
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it again unless you would do it to

756
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:09.679
<v Speaker 1>my face. All Right, and if that could be arranged,

757
00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>all right, so here we go. Oops, sorry, here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Sarah Newton her service cheap with its headlights on

759
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:35.159
<v Speaker 4>and the engine running as if she had never been there.

760
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<v Speaker 4>These cases are separated by years and hundreds of miles,

761
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 4>but they have one thing in common. They are inexplicable.

762
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.239
<v Speaker 4>And every time the radios are left behind turned on

763
00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:48.960
<v Speaker 4>no signal. What is happening in America's national parks? And

764
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:50.880
<v Speaker 4>why are rangers the first to disappear?

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what she was referencing from. Actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>a year later.

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<v Speaker 4>February nineteen eighty eight was an unusually snowy month for

768
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<v Speaker 4>Yosemite National Park. At the beginning of the month, a

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<v Speaker 4>powerful cyclone swept through the Sierra Nevada, dumping heavy snow

770
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<v Speaker 4>on the mountain passes. The thickness of the fresh snow

771
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<v Speaker 4>exceeded five feet in some places. For most tourists. The

772
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:23.480
<v Speaker 4>season was closed, but patrols of high altitude areas continued.

773
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<v Speaker 4>The Badger Pass area is one such place, deserted, difficult

774
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 4>to access but mandatory for inspection after snowfall due to

775
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<v Speaker 4>the thread of avalanches and blocked trails. That day, the

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<v Speaker 4>patrol was led by Eric William Larson, a thirty five

777
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<v Speaker 4>year old ranger with eight years of experience. His colleagues

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<v Speaker 4>respected him for his reliability and calmness. He was one

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<v Speaker 4>of those who consistently followed protocol. Tall and thin, with

780
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<v Speaker 4>a habit of wearing two pairs of socks even in summer,

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00:49:54.440 --> 00:49:57.719
<v Speaker 4>he treated his job as a personal mission. The service

782
00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.199
<v Speaker 4>base in Wovone received its last call at all seven

783
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<v Speaker 4>fourteen a m. He reported that he had reached the

784
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<v Speaker 4>fork at the observation point, the snow was knee deep,

785
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<v Speaker 4>no avalanches had been spotted, and he was continuing along

786
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<v Speaker 4>the route. He said this as usual, clearly without fuss,

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<v Speaker 4>and did not come on the air again. When the

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<v Speaker 4>duty officer tried to contact him at one PM, there

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<v Speaker 4>was no response. At first, they decided that he had

790
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<v Speaker 4>simply gone into an area where the radio could not

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<v Speaker 4>reach him. By three PM, the alarm grew. There was

792
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<v Speaker 4>stable coverage in the area where Larson was traveling, and

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<v Speaker 4>he rarely broke his communications schedule. At four thirty PM,

794
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<v Speaker 4>management decided to launch an urgent ground search. A team

795
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<v Speaker 4>was quickly assembled, two rangers and an experienced rescuer and

796
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<v Speaker 4>they set off on snowmobiles along a well trodden trail.

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<v Speaker 4>An hour later, at five fifty pm, they were on

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<v Speaker 4>site at the edge of a clearing next to a

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<v Speaker 4>snow covered trail. One of the rangers noticed a black

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<v Speaker 4>radio lying directly on the snow. It was turned on.

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<v Speaker 4>There were no signs of a fall or handprints on

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<v Speaker 4>the case. It appeared to have been carefully placed on

803
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<v Speaker 4>top of the snow. There were no other traces around it,

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<v Speaker 4>only a transparent chain of Larsen's boot prints leading toward

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<v Speaker 4>the clearing. They ended abruptly in the middle of the

806
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<v Speaker 4>snowy space, where there were no bushes, rocks, or patches

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<v Speaker 4>of melted snow. The tracks led to the middle of

808
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<v Speaker 4>the clearing and disappeared. It was at this point that

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<v Speaker 4>Larsen seemed to have fallen through the ground. There were

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<v Speaker 4>no traces of his return, no displacement of snow, no

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<v Speaker 4>signs of an avalanche. Investigators described the place as abnormally untouched,

812
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<v Speaker 4>as if no one had ever been there. One of

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<v Speaker 4>the rangers rode in his report the snow looked fresh,

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<v Speaker 4>as if it had fallen during the night, but there

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<v Speaker 4>were only as tracks in it and they disappeared in

816
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<v Speaker 4>the center. There, three feet from the disappearance site appeared.

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<v Speaker 4>They found another detail, a small piece of fabric frozen

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<v Speaker 4>into the snow. It was a piece of a uniform.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of the equipment was missing. The next day

820
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<v Speaker 4>a full scale search began. More than forty people, five snowmobiles,

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<v Speaker 4>and two helicopters were involved. They searched an area with

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<v Speaker 4>a radius of more than two miles. No signs of movement, struggle,

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<v Speaker 4>or bodily injury were found. The condition of the snow

824
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<v Speaker 4>was extraordinary. It was untouched even near the radio. The

825
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<v Speaker 4>snow cover was solid and did not collapse, and according

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<v Speaker 4>to meteorologists calculations, it could not have hidden human tracks

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<v Speaker 4>in such a short time. There had been no avalanches

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<v Speaker 4>in the area since December. There were no signs of

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<v Speaker 4>wild life except for the occasional fox tracks near by.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the weather station recordings captured a strange noise

831
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:44.800
<v Speaker 4>on the ranger's standard communication channel between eleven thirty and

832
00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:50.239
<v Speaker 4>eleven thirty seven, approximately immediately after Larsen's last call. The

833
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 4>recording was preserved on magnetic tape in the station's archives.

834
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.840
<v Speaker 4>The noise was described as jumping and muffled with no

835
00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 4>voice or obvious modulation. Some employees heard it live and

836
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 4>thought it was a glitch or wind interference. Later experts

837
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:09.480
<v Speaker 4>from the Communications service listened to the fragment. No one

838
00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.880
<v Speaker 4>could say for sure what it was. The data on

839
00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:14.760
<v Speaker 4>the anomalies and the frequency was sent to the archives.

840
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.639
<v Speaker 4>On the fifth day of the search, the Badger Pass

841
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 4>area resembled a war zone. Helicopters made six flights a day,

842
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 4>and rescuers combed through the snow with flags and probes.

843
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 4>About seventy people were involved, including three professional climbers and

844
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:34.800
<v Speaker 4>four dog handlers. Despite intensive efforts, each day brought only disappointment.

845
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.599
<v Speaker 4>No new clues emerged. The only thing they managed to

846
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:41.760
<v Speaker 4>find was on the fourth day, twenty six feet southeast

847
00:53:41.800 --> 00:53:45.000
<v Speaker 4>of the disappearance site, when a rescuer stepped on something

848
00:53:45.119 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 4>hard under a layer of packed snow. It turned out

849
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:51.480
<v Speaker 4>to be a piece of black plastic. It had Motorola

850
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 4>markings on it, the same model as the service radio,

851
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 4>but the one found on the first day had an

852
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 4>intact casing. It was unclear whether it was a different

853
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.079
<v Speaker 4>device or part of unknown equipment. Later, when checking the

854
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 4>serial numbers, it turned out that the fragment found did

855
00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:13.760
<v Speaker 4>not belong to Larson. With each passing day, investigators had

856
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:18.440
<v Speaker 4>fewer and fewer rational explanations. Various theories were put forward,

857
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.760
<v Speaker 4>ranging from sudden disorientation and a fall into a ravine

858
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:25.119
<v Speaker 4>hidden by a crack to an animal attack, but none

859
00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 4>of them explained the main thing why the tracks stopped

860
00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of an open area, why there were

861
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.199
<v Speaker 4>no entry or exit points nearby, and where the body was.

862
00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:38.599
<v Speaker 4>Even the most skeptical participants in the operation began to

863
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 4>admit that something ben.

864
00:54:40.280 --> 00:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>So clearly and this has happened with and Julie's well

865
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 1>aware this with some bigfoot tracks as well. I've spoken

866
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:54.880
<v Speaker 1>to these guys. They were Navajo rangers on an area

867
00:54:54.920 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that covered parts of Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, and

868
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>they said that they had tracked a bigfoot out to

869
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>an open area and the tracks just stopped. This is

870
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the same case with ranger Larsen that they found his tracks.

871
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He was walking to an open area and they just stopped.

872
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 1>This is not the only missing for one one case

873
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.880
<v Speaker 1>like this, but I just wanted to highlight that to you.

874
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>That's what's creeping this person out Yet and we put

875
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.039
<v Speaker 1>his logo up in the right hand corner here X

876
00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 1>zone missing fantastic.

877
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:39.159
<v Speaker 4>Creator beyond standard logic had happened to Eric. Particular attention

878
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 4>was drawn to a story told by park employee Phil

879
00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Taylor on the seventh day of the search. He recalled

880
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 4>a similar case that occurred in January nineteen seventy six,

881
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.400
<v Speaker 4>also in the Badger Pass area. At that time, a

882
00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.239
<v Speaker 4>skier from Sacramento who had set out on a solo

883
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:58.440
<v Speaker 4>trip went missing. His skis were found stuck in the

884
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.079
<v Speaker 4>snow at the start of the descent, but there was

885
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 4>no trace of him beyond that point. His body was

886
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 4>never found. The incident was filed away as an accident.

887
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.159
<v Speaker 4>Taylor admitted that he only remembered it after seeing how

888
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 4>Larson's tracks disappeared so abruptly as if cut by a knife.

889
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:17.559
<v Speaker 4>On the ninth day, the search was called off. The

890
00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 4>official reason was the worsening weather conditions and the danger

891
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 4>of avalanches in the southern direction. The temperature began to

892
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:28.239
<v Speaker 4>drop sharply, and the forecast was already predicting minus twenty

893
00:56:28.280 --> 00:56:31.760
<v Speaker 4>degrees at night. The operation was moved to a monitoring phase.

894
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:34.679
<v Speaker 4>Eric's parents were told that there was still a chance

895
00:56:34.719 --> 00:56:38.800
<v Speaker 4>he could have reached a shelter or temporary refuge. However,

896
00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:43.519
<v Speaker 4>he was already unofficially presumed dead. His mother, Karen Larsen,

897
00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:47.159
<v Speaker 4>refused to leave Yosemite and continued to search the area

898
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 4>on her own until she became hypothermic two weeks later

899
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 4>and was hospitalized. In the spring, when the snow began

900
00:56:53.679 --> 00:56:57.840
<v Speaker 4>to melt, a second ground search was conducted. Surveyors and

901
00:56:57.920 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 4>dog handlers re examined the area where the ranger had disappeared.

902
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.400
<v Speaker 4>This time they were interested in the point where the

903
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.079
<v Speaker 4>tracks ended under a layer of snow. They found dense

904
00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:13.039
<v Speaker 4>grass cover with no cracks, burrows, or depressions. Spectral analysis

905
00:57:13.079 --> 00:57:16.159
<v Speaker 4>of the snow and soil was conducted, but no abnormalities

906
00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:20.199
<v Speaker 4>were detected. Eight months later, the case was officially closed

907
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 4>as a disappearance under unclear circumstances. Larsen's service badge remained

908
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 4>in the park's archives as a memorial exhibit. His family

909
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:34.119
<v Speaker 4>never received an explanation. None of the theories avalanche, sudden disorientation, fall,

910
00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:39.559
<v Speaker 4>animal attack, or deliberate departure received any confirmation. No piece

911
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:42.960
<v Speaker 4>of equipment except for the radio, was found. Some former

912
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.599
<v Speaker 4>employees who left the service in the early two thousands

913
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 4>later mentioned the case in private interviews. One of them,

914
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 4>who wished to remain anonymous, said, such cases are not uncommon,

915
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:54.880
<v Speaker 4>but if you work in the park, you are taught

916
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:56.760
<v Speaker 4>not to ask questions that have no answer.

917
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, let's let's pause right here before we

918
00:58:05.400 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>get to Eric Stevenson from Acadia and uh, and let's

919
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:11.599
<v Speaker 1>talk about this one. Go for it.

920
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Well, unlike the first one, he was never found.

921
00:58:18.920 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 1>So that's the tracks and the.

922
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Tracks there was no tracks in a route. Yeah, I

923
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:38.480
<v Speaker 3>mean that's another very strange. There's no explanation, and you know,

924
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and and again it's all this is happening in different national.

925
00:58:44.440 --> 00:58:50.079
<v Speaker 1>Parks like yes, yes, most certainly, and is and is

926
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.639
<v Speaker 1>is inexplicable. It's happening on the East coast, the west coast.

927
00:58:55.039 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>There there are certain areas in swaths that he calls

928
00:58:58.280 --> 00:59:03.719
<v Speaker 1>clusters Dave pl Sarah in Montana the Crazy Mountains, they're

929
00:59:03.719 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 1>called the Crazies. Actually, he's found some cases there that

930
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 1>are really bizarre. Obviously, the Rockies, the Canadian Rockies. Obviously

931
00:59:14.440 --> 00:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows Rocky Mountain National Park in Tennessee. Oh Jason Robbins,

932
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:25.840
<v Speaker 1>not tracks after Jason. I love Jason. He always texting

933
00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:28.960
<v Speaker 1>when we're doing these kinds of shows. Please, Jason, if

934
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 1>you're listening, please say hi to your mom and tell

935
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:34.440
<v Speaker 1>her we're thinking of her. Miss Terry. We love Miss

936
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Terry and always think about I think about Terry at

937
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:45.639
<v Speaker 1>least every other day. And so yeah, and also in

938
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:50.639
<v Speaker 1>the East, so Virginia. So I'm trying to think of

939
00:59:50.719 --> 00:59:54.039
<v Speaker 1>the name of the mountain range in North Carolina. But

940
00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that whole area Rocky Mountain National Park, the LBL, which

941
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:02.320
<v Speaker 1>covers part of Kentucky and Tennis. See, this is not

942
01:00:02.679 --> 01:00:07.400
<v Speaker 1>something that is only in Yosemite. Yosemite just happens to

943
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:11.119
<v Speaker 1>have the most. And there's one that Dave Polaides does

944
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is on Lake Michigan. And there's a young

945
01:00:14.559 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>man that goes across country skiing and he doesn't return.

946
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.679
<v Speaker 1>So they call out authorities who are able to find

947
01:00:23.800 --> 01:00:27.159
<v Speaker 1>where he launched from. They found his vehicle, they found

948
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the cross country ski tracks from his vehicle and tracked

949
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 1>him all the way out on to frozen Lake Michigan.

950
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:42.440
<v Speaker 1>The problem is is that like Ranger Larsen, the tracks stop.

951
01:00:44.679 --> 01:00:49.440
<v Speaker 1>He's skiing out onto the lake and the tracks stop.

952
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>There's no u turn of either he in his ski

953
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:58.280
<v Speaker 1>boots or his surrels or his skis to go back

954
01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:06.920
<v Speaker 1>to shoreline. This kid woke up in Pennsylvania, seven hundred

955
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:12.559
<v Speaker 1>miles away in a farmer's field, and he went to

956
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the farmhouse and knocked on the door and said, can

957
01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I call my family? So that's just one of them,

958
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:26.039
<v Speaker 1>the other one. And we'll get this story from you,

959
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 1>because David Polaid's will tell it better than we do.

960
01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>But it is a fire captain. To picture a fireman's

961
01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:38.320
<v Speaker 1>ski trip. They're Toronto firemen, and there's a captain who

962
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:41.239
<v Speaker 1>leads his crew on a ski trip to Lake Placid

963
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 1>in New York over the border. And as they're skiing

964
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.800
<v Speaker 1>and getting laid in the day, of course, there's always

965
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.039
<v Speaker 1>one person that has to go on one last run,

966
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and that was him. And he came down the trail

967
01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and disappeared. Nobody saw him. Where is he? Where is he?

968
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.239
<v Speaker 1>They have had all of ski patrol, they had all

969
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the firemen up on the mountain. They had firemen from

970
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:09.800
<v Speaker 1>New York, they had firemen from Canada, they had sar

971
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:14.840
<v Speaker 1>they had ski patrol. Everybody looking for the fire captain

972
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.039
<v Speaker 1>on this mountain. You know where he woke up, folks.

973
01:02:20.840 --> 01:02:24.719
<v Speaker 1>He woke up as a passenger in an eighteen wheeler

974
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 1>outside of California.

975
01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Wow, he was.

976
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.559
<v Speaker 1>He asked the trucker to drop him off at the

977
01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:39.519
<v Speaker 1>airport in Sacramento. He still had his ski clothes and

978
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:44.039
<v Speaker 1>helmet on his ski pass but he happened to have

979
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:47.360
<v Speaker 1>had in his jacket his credit card and his license,

980
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.800
<v Speaker 1>and he bought a phone and he called his wife.

981
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 1>How do you explain this? He didn't know where he was.

982
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There's very little on this and you can't find but

983
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the last thing he remembers, I was on the ski

984
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>slope and then I'm in a truck out west.

985
01:03:12.960 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 2>And how many years had elapsed?

986
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was that much time. I don't

987
01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.920
<v Speaker 1>know how much time elapsed. He had a haircut. That

988
01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:21.719
<v Speaker 1>was the only thing that was different, as his hair

989
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.159
<v Speaker 1>was shorter, is what I heard. So I'll pot we'll

990
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:27.480
<v Speaker 1>get that episode and play it for you. Let's go

991
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:30.840
<v Speaker 1>through the comments. So are they multidimensional beings? You know,

992
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Julie is as much Julie's part of a Bigfoot group

993
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:37.320
<v Speaker 1>with doctor Semine Hind. My personal opinion is I believe

994
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.760
<v Speaker 1>some of them are, and I think some of them

995
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:42.159
<v Speaker 1>are not. And I think some of them have certain

996
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:46.320
<v Speaker 1>abilities and some of them don't. I have heard people

997
01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:50.480
<v Speaker 1>say in a completely dark forest that the eyes glow,

998
01:03:50.920 --> 01:03:54.360
<v Speaker 1>and that's something that we would think are physically impossible,

999
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.440
<v Speaker 1>meaning if your eyes were emitting light, you couldn't see

1000
01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:01.400
<v Speaker 1>through them. But it explains how big it can maneuver

1001
01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:05.000
<v Speaker 1>through the woods at very fast speeds and they can

1002
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.519
<v Speaker 1>see where they're going. But I've heard a number of

1003
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:12.679
<v Speaker 1>researchers say I saw eye glow, not eyes shine, Like

1004
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 1>when you see a raccoon by the side of the

1005
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:19.719
<v Speaker 1>road with your headlights and you're in New Hampshire, I glow.

1006
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 1>So I think some are some aren't. Julie, you know,

1007
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:29.679
<v Speaker 1>she's probably more knowledgeable than I. Some people say they

1008
01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:34.719
<v Speaker 1>can cloak themselves. There's a there's a video. There's a

1009
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 1>woman she's just passed. I believe her name was Barb Shoop,

1010
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 1>and she has a video of what looks like a

1011
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:50.599
<v Speaker 1>child bigfoot hiding behind a tree and you can see

1012
01:04:50.639 --> 01:04:54.079
<v Speaker 1>it and it takes off and runs and when it runs,

1013
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.079
<v Speaker 1>it looks like it turns clear. It's really really we

1014
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:02.519
<v Speaker 1>you could see a dark little something and what she

1015
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.079
<v Speaker 1>saw was black. But on video it looks like it.

1016
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:11.199
<v Speaker 1>It changes, it looks clear when it because it Yeah,

1017
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:13.800
<v Speaker 1>and that if you want to see that one is

1018
01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:18.119
<v Speaker 1>called a flash of beauty. And there's a guy in there.

1019
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.159
<v Speaker 1>He's a I thought he was Native American, Actually he's not.

1020
01:05:21.800 --> 01:05:25.199
<v Speaker 1>His name is rich Jermau, and he was a police officer.

1021
01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 1>He was a police officer at the local level, at

1022
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:31.079
<v Speaker 1>the county level. He was a police officer in the

1023
01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps, and he was a police officer at the

1024
01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:38.599
<v Speaker 1>federal level. And the Bigfoot experiences that he had first

1025
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:42.840
<v Speaker 1>in his patrol car watching people at a swimming hole

1026
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and then walk across the hall. They had no idea

1027
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:50.559
<v Speaker 1>that this thing is twenty yards away watching them at

1028
01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.960
<v Speaker 1>a little swimming code that you can see from the road,

1029
01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 1>and then it turned around and just walked across the road.

1030
01:05:56.800 --> 01:05:58.719
<v Speaker 1>He saw it in his car almost at a heart attack.

1031
01:05:59.280 --> 01:05:59.679
<v Speaker 3>Wow, so.

1032
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Very very if I could get Rich on and not

1033
01:06:06.440 --> 01:06:09.960
<v Speaker 1>talk like global destruction or some of the other crazy things,

1034
01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 1>because I've had a phone call with Rich. I actually

1035
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.840
<v Speaker 1>got a hold of him because Matt's like, look, dude,

1036
01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 1>this guy is you know, like there are people their

1037
01:06:20.480 --> 01:06:24.880
<v Speaker 1>online behavior can be a little off putting. Let's just

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01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:28.800
<v Speaker 1>put it to you that way, right. But Rich I've

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01:06:28.840 --> 01:06:32.079
<v Speaker 1>spoke with him on the phone about because I want

1040
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Karen Reid. So this is picture me

1041
01:06:37.079 --> 01:06:40.559
<v Speaker 1>the first week or two that I was into Karen Reid,

1042
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and I became aware of it and talked him about

1043
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 1>how you can use your investigative skills. Some of the

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01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.400
<v Speaker 1>things that he saw with Bigfoot would pretty mind blowing.

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01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 1>But Scott tracks just ending in the creature disappearing only

1046
01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 1>makes sense if the creature slipped from the third dimension

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01:06:57.960 --> 01:07:01.840
<v Speaker 1>what I believe most used multi dimension. Yes, that is

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01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:07.920
<v Speaker 1>quite possible he went to another dimension or UFO abducted him.

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01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.760
<v Speaker 1>There's a movie and I'm gonna tell you guys about

1050
01:07:10.800 --> 01:07:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put in the chat here. It's called Missing

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01:07:15.639 --> 01:07:23.679
<v Speaker 1>for one one the UFO Connection, And I believe this

1052
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.480
<v Speaker 1>is on tub and you can watch it for free again.

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01:07:27.599 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 1>David Polaidi's former San Jose detective. If you remember the

1054
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Polyclass case, the missing teenage girl from Northern California poly

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01:07:37.599 --> 01:07:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Class with a K. David was in on that investigation,

1056
01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Speaker 1>worked side by side with the FBI on that investigation

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01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:48.599
<v Speaker 1>before he retired, and he discovered that, Hey, there's a

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01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of people who go missing in our national parks. Yes,

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01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:57.199
<v Speaker 1>I know what you're talking about, that place standing Stones.

1060
01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen stuff. That place creeps me out out seeing

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01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:07.119
<v Speaker 1>it on TV. Forget about going there. Yes, that's what Julie.

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01:08:07.440 --> 01:08:09.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about this one, Jules, I gonna have

1063
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:13.320
<v Speaker 1>to find out. The Appalation Trail we got. We got

1064
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff from Appalation Trail for you. We got more stuff

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01:08:16.600 --> 01:08:23.039
<v Speaker 1>from Appllation Trail. I think her name was Gertrude Largay.

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01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I she she's found it that, you know. The Navy

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01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:33.680
<v Speaker 1>has that seer camp, that survival camp where they do

1068
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:36.880
<v Speaker 1>the training like I did in Washington. The Navy Survival

1069
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:41.800
<v Speaker 1>School is in like New Hampshire, Vermont, or Maine. It's

1070
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and this lady who was on the trail for months

1071
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:52.760
<v Speaker 1>with her husband bringing her food every three days, two days,

1072
01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 1>food and supplies, they meet up. He went way off

1073
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the trail and ended up dead in the on the

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01:09:01.520 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 1>property of the Navy Survival School, the Navy Stare School,

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01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:07.960
<v Speaker 1>which if somebody wants to google it, the Navy Sare School.

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01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It's either in Maine.

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01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I think she whethers Colleen is saying in Maine.

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01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank you? Uh Scott, Yes, yes, that's what. This

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01:09:21.039 --> 01:09:23.279
<v Speaker 1>is the reason why I like the Fifth Dimension from

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01:09:23.319 --> 01:09:28.039
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen sixties, one of my favorite singing groups. She

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01:09:28.199 --> 01:09:30.159
<v Speaker 1>worked for an I worked with a Native American tribe

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01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:32.880
<v Speaker 1>for years. A lot of things that that they are

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01:09:33.079 --> 01:09:37.960
<v Speaker 1>not as they seem absolutely, Thomas. Uh, if you guys want,

1084
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:41.119
<v Speaker 1>we could watch one more. We could watch the male

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01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:44.279
<v Speaker 1>or the female one. What do you think? Yeah, we'll

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01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:46.600
<v Speaker 1>watch one final one and then we'll call it a night.

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01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:49.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:09:50.279 --> 01:09:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Female. Oh no, the next one is Peterson, Yeah, which.

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01:09:58.239 --> 01:09:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:01.479
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like the female. I like the story,

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01:10:02.079 --> 01:10:04.319
<v Speaker 3>but you know, okay, so here's one thing. Can I

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01:10:04.479 --> 01:10:08.640
<v Speaker 3>just say, all right, so when I think of the

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01:10:09.920 --> 01:10:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Sarah Levin, the only thing with that one to me

1094
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:18.920
<v Speaker 3>feels more like UFO wish. And I'll tell you why,

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01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.279
<v Speaker 3>because her coming back, like I feel like a bigfoot

1096
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 3>is not for some If a big foot takes a human,

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01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:29.680
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna be you know, running through the woods like

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01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:33.119
<v Speaker 3>you're saying, nothing matched, Like her clothes was fine like

1099
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 3>that kind of that doesn't feel like her story doesn't

1100
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:40.199
<v Speaker 3>feel like a bigfoot where who knows they're not gonna

1101
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:43.039
<v Speaker 3>take care of a woman and that kind of thing.

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01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 3>As where as a UFO you can kind of see

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01:10:45.880 --> 01:10:50.399
<v Speaker 3>that maybe time stops or I don't know, but they

1104
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:53.960
<v Speaker 3>feel different even though they were in the same you

1105
01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:55.920
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, like in the same park where

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01:10:55.960 --> 01:10:58.319
<v Speaker 3>they were where they went missing.

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01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I think that to me, I think

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01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:05.079
<v Speaker 1>it's that's a UFO one. There are some where it

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01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:09.439
<v Speaker 1>looks like a portal and with the portal ones which

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01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 1>I think where somebody walked in a portal opened up,

1111
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.960
<v Speaker 1>they walked into it and never came out. Yeah, there

1112
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.439
<v Speaker 1>are some. And I want to talk about what Scott

1113
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.600
<v Speaker 1>says from a dimension standpoint, because I'm going to add

1114
01:11:21.600 --> 01:11:24.640
<v Speaker 1>a little fuel to the fire that Scott spring up

1115
01:11:24.640 --> 01:11:32.560
<v Speaker 1>about dimensions and it's this Dave Polis has illuminated that

1116
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:36.159
<v Speaker 1>searchers and we're talking sar teams now people that and

1117
01:11:36.239 --> 01:11:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I've seen them at the park that I go to

1118
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:42.039
<v Speaker 1>they train. Some of them are older than us. They

1119
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:45.720
<v Speaker 1>are very in shape. And this is very scary, Teresa,

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01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 1>this is very scary. So I don't want to minimize

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01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:51.199
<v Speaker 1>this in any way, but I want to. I want to.

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01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about what Scott's saying. Here. There

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01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.920
<v Speaker 1>are sar teams that have been walking on an area,

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01:11:59.119 --> 01:12:01.560
<v Speaker 1>going through the rids that have been set up for them,

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01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:07.399
<v Speaker 1>and say, I heard a voice saying, help me, help me.

1126
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm right here, and they're looking and it's in an

1127
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:14.479
<v Speaker 1>open area and they can't see anybody. There is more

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01:12:14.600 --> 01:12:18.640
<v Speaker 1>than one story like that of searchers saying I hear him,

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01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:22.039
<v Speaker 1>I hear him saying it. It sounds like a male

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01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:25.520
<v Speaker 1>voice about that age or you know, or female voice,

1131
01:12:25.840 --> 01:12:29.479
<v Speaker 1>and I can't see anything. And then another searcher goes

1132
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 1>out there and they go, I heard it too, I'm here,

1133
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm right here. So that I think could be the

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01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:42.960
<v Speaker 1>dimensional Hi, how are you seriously? I think that could

1135
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:49.199
<v Speaker 1>be the dimensional situation that you're talking about, Scott. I

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01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:54.840
<v Speaker 1>think some of the other ones are UFO, and I

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01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.880
<v Speaker 1>think some of them are portal where people walk in

1138
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and they're never seeing it again. We could talk about

1139
01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Jared Ada Darrow. I know a lot of I mean,

1140
01:13:06.520 --> 01:13:08.880
<v Speaker 1>it's scary, this is scary, but we're doing it together

1141
01:13:09.319 --> 01:13:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and we're having fun. So all right, let's watch one

1142
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.119
<v Speaker 1>more and we'll watch the female one, and then we'll

1143
01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.159
<v Speaker 1>call it a night, because we're gonna do more of

1144
01:13:16.199 --> 01:13:19.840
<v Speaker 1>these episodes because this is great stuff from David Plaidi's

1145
01:13:19.840 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 1>and X Zone. So let's let's let's get on this.

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01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so this is Sarah Elizabeth Newton.

1147
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Yep, let me scroll forward.

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01:13:27.000 --> 01:13:28.039
<v Speaker 2>See, I have my notes.

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01:13:28.920 --> 01:13:31.439
<v Speaker 1>You know what, you might increase your salary.

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01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one is more intriguing, and I have some

1151
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:40.600
<v Speaker 2>notes on why Yep.

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01:13:46.119 --> 01:13:48.239
<v Speaker 1>This one. Let's just get the end of this one,

1153
01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>just to really scare you right.

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01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Here, leaving no traces and no trail. It remains unknown

1155
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:56.760
<v Speaker 4>what exactly Eric Peterson saw on the trail that July day.

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:01.199
<v Speaker 4>Were they ordinary tourists, a mysterious mental state, or something

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01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 4>else entirely, But since then, most rangers working in those

1158
01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:08.279
<v Speaker 4>areas have adhered to one simple rule. If you see

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01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:11.239
<v Speaker 4>a figure standing silently at the edge, don't approach.

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01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Ever.

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01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Sarah Elizabeth Newton, a thirty year old National Park Service employee,

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01:14:27.520 --> 01:14:30.600
<v Speaker 4>was considered one of the most reliable and disciplined rangers

1163
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.319
<v Speaker 4>assigned to the eastern part of the Great Smoky Mountains

1164
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:37.520
<v Speaker 4>National Park. A native of Knoxville, Tennessee, she had been

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01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:41.039
<v Speaker 4>working in the park for six years, patrolling remote areas

1166
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 4>along gravel forest roads, checking trails, observing wildlife, and reporting

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01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:49.840
<v Speaker 4>fire hazards. She was known as someone who never deviated

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01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:53.840
<v Speaker 4>from her schedule, never ignored her radio, and indeed never

1169
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:57.119
<v Speaker 4>abandoned her equipment without reason. That is what made her

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01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:01.279
<v Speaker 4>disappearance in October nineteen ninety four so alarmed. On Saturday,

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01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:04.760
<v Speaker 4>October ninth, Sarah set out on a solo patrol along

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01:15:04.880 --> 01:15:08.279
<v Speaker 4>Indian Gap Road. This old country road runs through a

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01:15:08.319 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 4>densely wooded area between Newfoun Gap and Cherokee Orchard. She

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01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 4>was driving a green Ford Bronco Service Jeep with department

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01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:19.840
<v Speaker 4>license plates and equipment inside. Radio contact was maintained until

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01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:23.920
<v Speaker 4>three p M. She checked in twice, reporting that everything

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01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:27.359
<v Speaker 4>was fine. The last message came in at three fourteen PM.

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01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:30.399
<v Speaker 4>Sarah mentioned that she had turned onto a side road

1179
01:15:30.479 --> 01:15:33.359
<v Speaker 4>to check an old parking lot by a creek. When

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01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.159
<v Speaker 4>she didn't report in by four thirty p m, dispatch

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01:15:36.279 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 4>didn't raise the alarm at first. There had been delays

1182
01:15:39.199 --> 01:15:42.279
<v Speaker 4>due to poor signal reception in the past, but by

1183
01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.159
<v Speaker 4>six p M, when Sarah had not returned to base

1184
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:48.319
<v Speaker 4>and was not responding, to repeated calls. Her partner on duty,

1185
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:52.279
<v Speaker 4>Douglas Lane, began his own search along the presumed patrol route.

1186
01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:55.560
<v Speaker 4>At around seven p m. He found the service jeep

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01:15:55.640 --> 01:15:58.319
<v Speaker 4>on an unnamed forest road in an area known locally

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01:15:58.359 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 4>as Colville Ridge, a narrow, winding road with dense vegetation

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01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:06.279
<v Speaker 4>and steep slopes on both sides. The car was parked

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01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:08.920
<v Speaker 4>at a bend. The headlights were on and the engine

1191
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:13.039
<v Speaker 4>was running. The driver's door was ajar. Neither Sarah nor

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01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:15.560
<v Speaker 4>any signs of her presence were to be found anywhere.

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01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:18.439
<v Speaker 4>There were no signs of an accident, a struggle, or

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01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:22.319
<v Speaker 4>tire tracks from other vehicles, or footprints except those left

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01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:26.119
<v Speaker 4>by the SUV's tires. Inside, the duty log was open

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01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:31.039
<v Speaker 4>and the radio was in place and working. Sarah's shoes, documents, cap,

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01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.760
<v Speaker 4>and jacket were all in the car. The trunk was

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01:16:33.880 --> 01:16:37.359
<v Speaker 4>closed and contained a first aid kit, a supply of water,

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01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.319
<v Speaker 4>and a set of tow ropes. A call to the

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01:16:40.399 --> 01:16:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Park Service prompted the emergency deployment of a search party.

1201
01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 4>Within forty minutes. The first wave of rangers arrived at

1202
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:52.560
<v Speaker 4>the scene at seven forty pm with flashlights and dogs. Strangely,

1203
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.079
<v Speaker 4>the dogs refused to follow the trail from the car.

1204
01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:58.119
<v Speaker 4>They sniffed the seat and the ground near the doors,

1205
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.840
<v Speaker 4>but did not detect any scent. That night, a light

1206
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:06.039
<v Speaker 4>breeze blew with no precipitation, and the temperature was around

1207
01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:10.319
<v Speaker 4>fifty degrees fahrenheit. A search of the surrounding area yielded nothing.

1208
01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Sarah seemed to have vanished into thin air. She didn't

1209
01:17:13.920 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 4>even leave a footprint. The next morning, air support and

1210
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:20.680
<v Speaker 4>volunteers joined the operation. They combed more than five square

1211
01:17:20.800 --> 01:17:22.960
<v Speaker 4>miles in a radius from the point where the jeep

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01:17:23.079 --> 01:17:26.640
<v Speaker 4>was found. No signal, no clothing, no scraps of fabric,

1213
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:29.479
<v Speaker 4>no blood, no hair. There were no traces of the

1214
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:32.279
<v Speaker 4>missing woman in the ditch, the stream, or the bushes.

1215
01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:36.359
<v Speaker 4>One of the investigators said in his report, we found

1216
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:39.640
<v Speaker 4>no evidence that she left the car on foot. It

1217
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:43.199
<v Speaker 4>was precisely this inability to reconstruct the last seconds of

1218
01:17:43.239 --> 01:17:46.359
<v Speaker 4>her presence that gave rise not just to alarm within

1219
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.880
<v Speaker 4>the team, but also a strange, oppressive feeling. The jeep

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01:17:50.960 --> 01:17:52.600
<v Speaker 4>was running as if she had stepped out for a

1221
01:17:52.720 --> 01:17:56.560
<v Speaker 4>second and never returned. But then where could she have

1222
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:58.720
<v Speaker 4>gone in a matter of seconds without leaving even a

1223
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:02.319
<v Speaker 4>footprint on the damp, so in the days that followed,

1224
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:06.079
<v Speaker 4>the area around Colville Ridge turned into a coordination camp.

1225
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:12.439
<v Speaker 4>Dog handlers, rangers, military volunteers, and firefighters were all working there.

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01:18:13.159 --> 01:18:16.199
<v Speaker 4>A helicopter flew along the forest border from Newfound Gap

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01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:19.880
<v Speaker 4>to try Mountain Ridge, circling along the ridge, but even

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01:18:19.920 --> 01:18:23.680
<v Speaker 4>from the air, the area showed nothing suspicious. No broken trees,

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01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:26.359
<v Speaker 4>no traces of a fire, no bright spots of clothing.

1230
01:18:27.000 --> 01:18:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Sarah disappeared literally dozens of steps from the car, which

1231
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.720
<v Speaker 4>was running and lit in the middle of the road

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01:18:34.399 --> 01:18:37.479
<v Speaker 4>where even at noon a rare animal would dare to approach.

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01:18:38.159 --> 01:18:42.479
<v Speaker 4>Her brother, Jeremy Newton, a former marine, arrived that evening

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01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:46.039
<v Speaker 4>and immediately joined the search. He claimed to know Sarah's

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01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:49.119
<v Speaker 4>habits well and did not believe it was an accident.

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01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:53.319
<v Speaker 4>He followed the streams, descended into the lowlands, climbed along

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01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:56.439
<v Speaker 4>the cliff line, anywhere where it would be possible to

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01:18:56.520 --> 01:18:59.880
<v Speaker 4>slip or hide, even by accident. He was the first

1239
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 4>to notice two strange details that were not included in

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01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:07.000
<v Speaker 4>the official report. First, about one hundred and ninety feet

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<v Speaker 4>from the car, he found an area with a long

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<v Speaker 4>indentation in the grass, as if someone had dragged a long,

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01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:16.640
<v Speaker 4>heavy object like a backpack or a body across the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>But this area began and ended in the woods with

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01:19:20.239 --> 01:19:23.920
<v Speaker 4>no clear traces. Photographs were taken, but they were not

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01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:27.640
<v Speaker 4>included in the case file. Secondly, he noticed that one

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01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.039
<v Speaker 4>of the plastic water bottles from the car had been

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01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:32.600
<v Speaker 4>cut on the side, as if with a knife. No

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01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:35.520
<v Speaker 4>fingerprints were found on it. By the eleventh day of

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01:19:35.560 --> 01:19:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the search, the area was cordoned off. The official version

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01:19:39.239 --> 01:19:44.239
<v Speaker 4>possible criminal involvement or a security threat. In an unofficial correspondence,

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01:19:44.560 --> 01:19:48.000
<v Speaker 4>one of the investigators wrote, the area is like a trap.

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01:19:48.520 --> 01:19:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Everything leads back to the car, but nothing leads away

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01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:55.800
<v Speaker 4>from it. Three weeks after her disappearance, three miles to

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01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.359
<v Speaker 4>the south, a group of local hunters discovered a strange

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01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.840
<v Speaker 4>trail in the damp earth near a dry creek bed.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a single distinct footprint, a woman's boot, the

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01:20:06.920 --> 01:20:10.359
<v Speaker 4>same size as the one Sarah wore. The problem was

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01:20:10.399 --> 01:20:12.840
<v Speaker 4>that the boot was turned tow down on the slope

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01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:15.880
<v Speaker 4>toward the stream, and there were no second prints or

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01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:19.239
<v Speaker 4>skid marks nearby. It was as if she had been

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01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:22.000
<v Speaker 4>standing on the edge and had disappeared without taking a

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01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:27.039
<v Speaker 4>second step. After that, the investigation had no working hypotheses,

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01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:32.199
<v Speaker 4>left the body, close weapon. Everything was gone. No animal attack,

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01:20:32.359 --> 01:20:37.079
<v Speaker 4>no accident, no voluntary departure. Everything remained in place except

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01:20:37.159 --> 01:20:40.439
<v Speaker 4>the person. A year later, in November nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 4>one of the senior rangers, William Crawford, who had retired,

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01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:47.520
<v Speaker 4>gave an anonymous interview to a local radio host. He

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01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:51.119
<v Speaker 4>claimed that there had been three reported disappearances in the

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<v Speaker 4>Colville Ridge area over the past thirty years. One was

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01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:58.079
<v Speaker 4>a boy from the camp in the nineteen seventies, the

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01:20:58.199 --> 01:21:00.560
<v Speaker 4>second was a fisherman in the early nineteen teen eighties.

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<v Speaker 4>None of them were ever found. He also said that

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<v Speaker 4>in nineteen ninety one, five dead raccoons were found two

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01:21:07.159 --> 01:21:10.600
<v Speaker 4>miles east of this area, lying within a fifty foot radius,

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01:21:11.159 --> 01:21:14.640
<v Speaker 4>with no visible injuries. It was decided at the time

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01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:18.399
<v Speaker 4>that they had been poisoned, but veterinary analysis showed no toxins.

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01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:21.439
<v Speaker 4>Their lungs were as if they had collapsed, as if

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01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.359
<v Speaker 4>after a sudden decompression. No one directly linked this episode

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01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:28.279
<v Speaker 4>to the disappearances, but it was mentioned in official reports.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah was never found, neither her body nor her personal belongings,

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01:21:33.039 --> 01:21:36.640
<v Speaker 4>nor her bones, nor her clothes appeared a year later

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01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:40.279
<v Speaker 4>or ten years later. Her case remains open to this day,

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01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.239
<v Speaker 4>and in the official archives of the Great Smoky Mountains

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01:21:43.319 --> 01:21:46.199
<v Speaker 4>National Park Rangers there is a separate note on her

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01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:50.840
<v Speaker 4>file no physical explanation for her disappearance. To this day,

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01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.800
<v Speaker 4>new recruits going out on patrol in the area are

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01:21:53.880 --> 01:21:57.840
<v Speaker 4>instructed to maintain radio contact every fifteen minutes, do not

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01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:00.000
<v Speaker 4>stop the car without a reason, and always go out

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01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:02.760
<v Speaker 4>on patrol and pairs. Sarah Newton is not just a

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01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:05.800
<v Speaker 4>missing employee. Her case is the line beyond which even

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01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:14.159
<v Speaker 4>experienced rangers stop making logical conclusions. If you found this interesting,

1293
01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 4>please like, subscribe to the channel and click the bell icon.

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<v Speaker 4>This will help us continue to release videos like this.

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01:22:21.920 --> 01:22:24.520
<v Speaker 4>Right in the comments, which story you find the most

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01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.600
<v Speaker 4>mysterious and what you think is happening in these places?

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<v Speaker 4>Take care of yourselves and we look forward to seeing

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<v Speaker 4>you in our subsequent investigations.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very well done, Very well done by here. He

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<v Speaker 1>is right here X Zone again, he's in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>We put him in there. I want to make sure

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01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.000
<v Speaker 1>that all content creators get credit for what they do.

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01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>We're not sealing his work. We are promoting his work,

1304
01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:55.880
<v Speaker 1>just like we're going to do with micro dots, and

1305
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.640
<v Speaker 1>we have done with other creators as well that appear

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01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:02.399
<v Speaker 1>on the show. I did reach out to him or

1307
01:23:02.560 --> 01:23:06.479
<v Speaker 1>her via email because that I believe is Ai that

1308
01:23:06.640 --> 01:23:09.840
<v Speaker 1>is reading that there and go ahead and take it

1309
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:12.239
<v Speaker 1>away via What are you thinking on this case?

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01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I'm glad that they now go out

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01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:23.079
<v Speaker 3>in pairs because it'll probably be very strange to capture

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01:23:23.319 --> 01:23:26.800
<v Speaker 3>two people at the same time whatever, or you know,

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01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:29.840
<v Speaker 3>if one falls or whatever the story is. So I'm

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01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 3>glad that they've taken precautions so that moving forward, this

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01:23:36.039 --> 01:23:40.720
<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen hopefully. But yeah, there's no physical explanation the

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01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:43.119
<v Speaker 3>car was, she exited the vehicle.

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01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>There's no foot prints, right, they just bigfoot.

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01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if bigfoot walks in the side of that vehicle,

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01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you're going to see it. I mean, you're there right.

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01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:55.399
<v Speaker 1>You know. They're going to leave a very deep impression,

1321
01:23:55.479 --> 01:23:59.439
<v Speaker 1>which is why you have doctor Jeff Meldrum with three

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01:23:59.640 --> 01:24:06.239
<v Speaker 1>hundred plus foot casts, and you have researcher named Cliff

1323
01:24:06.279 --> 01:24:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Barrickman has three hundred plus foot casts that the people

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01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>have sent them please continue.

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01:24:13.000 --> 01:24:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it's just.

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01:24:16.079 --> 01:24:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Just another you know, the jeep was left running. I

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01:24:21.079 --> 01:24:24.039
<v Speaker 3>mean she obviously wasn't in I mean whatever.

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01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean she yeah, whatever took her because they found

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01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the one bootprint and then it was gone. You know,

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01:24:34.079 --> 01:24:36.439
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing. So I don't know how she got from

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01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>the vehicle to where that that bootprint was that was

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01:24:40.039 --> 01:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>by her, because I mean, unless they know that she

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01:24:43.159 --> 01:24:46.039
<v Speaker 1>was wearing host service boots. You know a lot of

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01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>people and this happens in the military too. If I

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01:24:48.720 --> 01:24:51.279
<v Speaker 1>took you in the squadron, I could show you twenty

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01:24:51.359 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of boots that people are wearing that are

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01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:57.319
<v Speaker 1>authorized at are the right color. So she may have

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01:24:57.439 --> 01:25:00.560
<v Speaker 1>gone out and bought her own boots. Was that her

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01:25:00.640 --> 01:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>boot We don't know if that was her boot because

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01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:07.399
<v Speaker 1>they they were indicating, at least in his narrative, that

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01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>they should have seen her bootprint outside the vehicle walking

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01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:15.439
<v Speaker 1>away from the vehicle. The other thing, that gun will

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01:25:15.479 --> 01:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>be found one hundred years from now. That radio that

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01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>like the Motorola radio in that casing, it won't work,

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01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that'll be And now here's Harah, Sarah, what are you

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01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:32.199
<v Speaker 1>doing here? What do you got to say? Harrah will

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01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>be found one hundred years from now, so a lot

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01:25:35.079 --> 01:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>of those materials, the boots would be found dozens of

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01:25:39.039 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 1>years from now. So yeah, I I Haarah, unless you

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01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:49.479
<v Speaker 1>have about missing for one one because I'll tell you what.

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01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:51.039
<v Speaker 1>If I'm out in the woods and I see you,

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01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm running the other way because I feel like something

1353
01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:58.039
<v Speaker 1>bad is about to happen. That's all I got to say. Yes, so,

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01:25:59.359 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and what you know, what Jules is here saying is

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01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>saying it doesn't matter, meaning there have been some that

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01:26:04.680 --> 01:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>have been caught in pairs. There's the Dilatov Pass thing

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01:26:08.520 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in Russia that really freaks me out. And I think

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01:26:11.079 --> 01:26:14.279
<v Speaker 1>the de Latov Pass of what happened in Russia in

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01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>the sixties. I literally believe that was a yetti that

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01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>attacked those scientists in because the way that they left

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01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:26.239
<v Speaker 1>their tents in a hurry looked like something scared to

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01:26:26.279 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 1>ship out of them and they left. Yeah, what is

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01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Standingstone said here The federal parks and state parks are

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01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:35.960
<v Speaker 1>tight lipped on all that goes on and claim to

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01:26:36.039 --> 01:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>keep no records and if you foia, they will break

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01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>your bank. So David Polaides will tell you about he

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01:26:42.199 --> 01:26:46.439
<v Speaker 1>has gotten some documents even from yusemne uh. There's the

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01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Stacey Eiras case that we will cover on here. And

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01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:54.000
<v Speaker 1>they literally called Dave and said, you will never ever

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01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>get the Stacey Aras file. I know you foyed for it.

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01:26:57.680 --> 01:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm here. This guy called Dave Poliiti's and said, why

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01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>do you want that? He's like, it's none of your business.

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01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Why I want it? I want it, And he said

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01:27:05.279 --> 01:27:07.359
<v Speaker 1>you're never going to get it. You're never going to

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01:27:07.399 --> 01:27:10.880
<v Speaker 1>get the Stacy Erra's case. Stacy Arras to and I'll

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01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>give him. I want Dave to tell you the story.

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01:27:13.479 --> 01:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>But essentially, she went on a horseback trip. So they

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01:27:17.920 --> 01:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>went to an outfitter there with a group that won

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01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the horseback trip. They stopped at an area where there

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01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:25.920
<v Speaker 1>was a cabin and all that neat stuff to take

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01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>a break. Her dad saw her and there was this

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01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>seventy year old man that was on the trip. She

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01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:36.319
<v Speaker 1>asked him to stop and pose for some photos. She

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01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>took some photos of him. She walked down a very

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01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>shallow trail. There was a lake there. Everybody could see

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01:27:42.920 --> 01:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the lake. She was gone. She was fourteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourteen years old. They have never found Stacy Erris. They

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01:27:53.319 --> 01:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>found the lens cap to her camera. Nothing else of

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01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:07.840
<v Speaker 1>Dacy was found. They cannot understand how, they cannot understand

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01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:11.640
<v Speaker 1>how nothing that was on her, none of her backpack,

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01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:15.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing of her was found, and they won't talk. And

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01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>and the fact that the park says they won't release

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01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that case. It's still an ongoing investigation. Where have we

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01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:28.479
<v Speaker 1>heard that before? Guys, It's really really frightening and scary.

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01:28:29.079 --> 01:28:32.479
<v Speaker 1>So I'm my okay. The other the co creator of

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<v Speaker 1>Calling All Beings, Nathan just came back from like Glacier

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01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:41.079
<v Speaker 1>National Park, Yellowstone. I mean he went to three or

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01:28:41.159 --> 01:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>four parks, including he went to see the famed professor

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01:28:48.079 --> 01:28:52.399
<v Speaker 1>from Montana Tech, doctor Michael Masters, and had a barbecue

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01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>at his house. Brought his children and his wife over

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01:28:55.680 --> 01:28:59.119
<v Speaker 1>there for a barbecue when they were in Montana, and

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01:28:59.239 --> 01:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he went to I can't, I literally can't tell you

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01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>all the parks he went to. He sent me photos

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01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>there amazing what and a video? Yeah, I got it

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01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:09.239
<v Speaker 1>last night. This is just last night. I talked to

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01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Nathan for the first time in weeks. But it was

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01:29:12.159 --> 01:29:15.439
<v Speaker 1>a two week west Coud. They drove over twenty two

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01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>hundred miles. Oh wow, and that's from landing at Denver.

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01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:22.439
<v Speaker 1>They drove twenty two hundred miles after landing in Denver

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01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and then going to all these different national parks. I'm like,

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01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:28.600
<v Speaker 1>thank god, you're okay. He you know, he said they

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01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.199
<v Speaker 1>weren't crazy about it. His kids are seventeen and fifteen,

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01:29:32.359 --> 01:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>but he thought about it and basically kept them in

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01:29:37.000 --> 01:29:40.239
<v Speaker 1>his sights. So what does she say, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I like this stuff too scared for me? Yes, Teresa,

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01:29:43.680 --> 01:29:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it is scary. I'm not going to try to You know,

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01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>why are park officials covered well? Because this is a

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01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.960
<v Speaker 1>business and you have people like me who are an

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01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>avid hiker. I mean, anybody that knows me will tell you.

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01:29:58.239 --> 01:30:01.159
<v Speaker 1>My favorite thing to do when I'm off duty is

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01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>go hiking. And do you think I'm thinking about this now? Yes?

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01:30:04.920 --> 01:30:08.079
<v Speaker 1>I am. I do think about this now, and I

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01:30:08.199 --> 01:30:11.239
<v Speaker 1>worry about it. You know, I've talked to my family

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01:30:11.319 --> 01:30:13.159
<v Speaker 1>and my wife about this. If we go hiking, when

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01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna you know, we gotta be, you know,

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01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>we gotta he can't be out of my sight. What

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01:30:17.760 --> 01:30:21.319
<v Speaker 1>David Polaiti says is as simple things like this, because

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01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't tell people don't not go to national parks

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01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:28.479
<v Speaker 1>because they're the most amazing thing. There's a new series

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01:30:28.680 --> 01:30:33.039
<v Speaker 1>called with Can you look that up real quick? With

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01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Eric Bana? Is it Untamed? Untamed is a new series

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01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>on Netflix with Eric Bona. It's about a four or

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01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>five part limited series. You will love it. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I have never been to Yosemite. I'm only seeing it

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01:30:47.800 --> 01:30:54.439
<v Speaker 1>on on film now. It is striking. I mean literally

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01:30:54.560 --> 01:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>when you see the forest and the falls and Elkan

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01:31:01.439 --> 01:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and just you know, the valley. When you see Yosemite,

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01:31:05.319 --> 01:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it's striking. There's nothing like it. Nothing we're going to

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01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>see back East and back East is beautiful. I'm from

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01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>back East. I'm from three hours from you know, from Denham.

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01:31:17.159 --> 01:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I love the Northeast woods, but this is really really stunning.

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01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Everything is just bigger and grander. But what Dave Polaidi says,

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01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to go out in the woods, carry

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01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:34.319
<v Speaker 1>bear spray. Always have kans of bear spray if there's

1445
01:31:34.479 --> 01:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>any chance that you're going to see even a black bear.

1446
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:39.720
<v Speaker 1>And the bears that you would encounter in Maine and

1447
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:42.800
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire are not aggressive like they are out west,

1448
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:46.199
<v Speaker 1>but you carry bear spray. You always carry a firearm.

1449
01:31:46.720 --> 01:31:50.119
<v Speaker 1>You always carry a personal locator beacon. This is a

1450
01:31:50.159 --> 01:31:53.079
<v Speaker 1>two hundred dollars item on Amazon. It hooks up to

1451
01:31:53.159 --> 01:31:56.439
<v Speaker 1>your vest or your backpack, the straps on your backpack

1452
01:31:56.800 --> 01:31:59.119
<v Speaker 1>and if you press that sir, it goes up to

1453
01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:02.680
<v Speaker 1>a satellite and SAR knows where to come and find

1454
01:32:02.720 --> 01:32:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you if you're injured. You hurt your leg, you tripped

1455
01:32:05.319 --> 01:32:08.079
<v Speaker 1>and fell, and Dave did to have that happen. Dave

1456
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:11.720
<v Speaker 1>broke his leg on a hike one time with camera equipment,

1457
01:32:12.439 --> 01:32:16.880
<v Speaker 1>broke his leg. But you have that SAR beacon. You

1458
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>could buy a satellite phone and you don't need to

1459
01:32:19.600 --> 01:32:23.079
<v Speaker 1>purchase a bunch of minutes. It's an emergency device that

1460
01:32:23.199 --> 01:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you can use if you've got to get a hold,

1461
01:32:24.720 --> 01:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>so you can have sat phone, backup batteries, firearm, bare spray,

1462
01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>personal locator beacon, And don't hike alone. Don't go alone.

1463
01:32:37.000 --> 01:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Now the place I'm going, I'm going to a park.

1464
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:42.840
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, it's like five miles fenced in. But

1465
01:32:43.159 --> 01:32:47.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not like being on there Colorado Trails that you

1466
01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>could have this happened. You could you could get yourself

1467
01:32:50.920 --> 01:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>in lots and lots of trouble up on the mountain

1468
01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>near Pike's Beak. They're a big foot up there. There's

1469
01:32:57.000 --> 01:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, there are wild animals up there, there's cougar

1470
01:32:59.880 --> 01:33:03.520
<v Speaker 1>up there. You need you need, you need to have

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01:33:03.880 --> 01:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>protection for that. And you need to tell people when

1472
01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you're leaving, where you're leaving from, where you're coming back.

1473
01:33:11.359 --> 01:33:13.960
<v Speaker 1>And extra cell phone batteries because all of our phones

1474
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>now have a set an emergency satellite capability, so that

1475
01:33:18.159 --> 01:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>personal locator beacon is going to do. Your cell phone's

1476
01:33:21.399 --> 01:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>going to do what that's going to do. But am

1477
01:33:22.880 --> 01:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I going to rely on that? No, I'm gonna I'm

1478
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:31.479
<v Speaker 1>going to have multiple things. Compass, you know, basic directions,

1479
01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:33.399
<v Speaker 1>how to get back to your car. Make sure you

1480
01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>have the coordinates. You program in the coordinates where you

1481
01:33:36.680 --> 01:33:40.079
<v Speaker 1>left the car so that way you can navigate back

1482
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to the car. Yes, you know, simple stuff. Have is

1483
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>there people that have reported to Dave Polaiiti's I sat

1484
01:33:48.000 --> 01:33:50.279
<v Speaker 1>there and looked at my compass and the needle was

1485
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:53.439
<v Speaker 1>doing this. Yes, that'll happen. That That's how I've heard

1486
01:33:53.479 --> 01:33:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of that happening. So okay, well have a GPS or

1487
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I've maps on my phone and if I've mapped on

1488
01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:04.199
<v Speaker 1>my phone and that phone is charged up. I don't

1489
01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:07.199
<v Speaker 1>need it turned on while I'm out while I'm out

1490
01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:09.840
<v Speaker 1>in the forest, so I turned the phone on and

1491
01:34:09.920 --> 01:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>says your car's parked here, okay, and then you start

1492
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>heading for the car. Do not wear earbuds and listen

1493
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>to music and podcasts and US media when you're in

1494
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the woods, because if you do that, you can't hear

1495
01:34:25.880 --> 01:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>if a predator is tracking you. So you want to

1496
01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:32.760
<v Speaker 1>use these, You want to use this, and you want

1497
01:34:32.760 --> 01:34:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to use this. So if you take that away and

1498
01:34:34.920 --> 01:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to music, well now I could be tracked

1499
01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:43.039
<v Speaker 1>by a predator. So just all those things. And let's

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01:34:43.039 --> 01:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>face it, folks, tens of thousands of people go to

1501
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>these parks every year like Nathan just did, and everything's okay,

1502
01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>but you can get into trouble. So just use precautions

1503
01:34:57.880 --> 01:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>so that you're not alone. One other thing, one of

1504
01:35:04.079 --> 01:35:06.479
<v Speaker 1>my flight crew guys when I was in the Air Force,

1505
01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a flight engineer and this guy was an

1506
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Electronic warfare officer, which is basically a navigator who gets

1507
01:35:13.239 --> 01:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>trained in some different stuff on aircraft. He is hiking

1508
01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:20.279
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific coast trail right now. I believe he is alone.

1509
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>He is a wonderful, smart human being named Mike Manion.

1510
01:35:25.520 --> 01:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>And when he finishes, he is on day ninety probably

1511
01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety three of his truck right now. Pacific Coast Trail. Literally,

1512
01:35:34.159 --> 01:35:37.359
<v Speaker 1>this thing goes from San Diego to the border of

1513
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:41.000
<v Speaker 1>US and Canada up near Vancouver. That's how long this

1514
01:35:41.119 --> 01:35:44.079
<v Speaker 1>trail is. Mike is on that trail. I don't know

1515
01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.800
<v Speaker 1>how far he's going. He's gonna come on calling all

1516
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>beings and tells if he tells me no. He's not

1517
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me no because we flew together, so he's

1518
01:35:54.039 --> 01:35:57.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna tell me yes. I sent him a message today.

1519
01:35:57.399 --> 01:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's not checking Facebook every day. But Mike Manion.

1520
01:36:01.760 --> 01:36:03.439
<v Speaker 1>Let me see if I can find him real quick.

1521
01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.479
<v Speaker 1>He's a he's a great guy. Uh, and he is.

1522
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I just want to go to his Let me see

1523
01:36:14.840 --> 01:36:18.159
<v Speaker 1>there he is Manions on the move. Go to his profile.

1524
01:36:18.239 --> 01:36:23.800
<v Speaker 1>There we go. What is this? This gentleman right here?

1525
01:36:25.840 --> 01:36:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I forgot hesh. Believe me, it's not easy, folks. If

1526
01:36:28.800 --> 01:36:31.079
<v Speaker 1>I had a producer, I mean, I could look so cool.

1527
01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Window there is Manions on the move. Okay, and this

1528
01:36:38.319 --> 01:36:41.479
<v Speaker 1>is this is Mike here and you can kind of

1529
01:36:41.560 --> 01:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>get an idea of what he's what he's doing.

1530
01:36:46.159 --> 01:36:47.000
<v Speaker 2>So beautiful.

1531
01:36:47.279 --> 01:36:53.760
<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. And he sent us a thing the other day.

1532
01:36:53.800 --> 01:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>He showed he's a very eclectic guy. When he retired

1533
01:36:57.680 --> 01:37:00.359
<v Speaker 1>from the Air Force, I think he retires a colonel.

1534
01:37:00.399 --> 01:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>He bought like a he bought like a farmhouse in

1535
01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>like the Tuscany region of Italy. He's like, hey, guys,

1536
01:37:06.399 --> 01:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>here's my new pad. I mean, he's that kind of guy.

1537
01:37:09.399 --> 01:37:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Mike is. Mike is just really cool. Wow. Yeah. I mean, yeah,

1538
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you could tell it's a little dryer up there in

1539
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:26.039
<v Speaker 1>California where he's at. But Mike is the kind of

1540
01:37:26.079 --> 01:37:30.479
<v Speaker 1>guy I guarantee you on knowing remembering him from active duty,

1541
01:37:31.079 --> 01:37:34.319
<v Speaker 1>he's the kind of guy. He's going to have everything

1542
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that that he needs that one should have for a

1543
01:37:37.760 --> 01:37:40.439
<v Speaker 1>trip like this. He's just he's that kind of guy.

1544
01:37:41.039 --> 01:37:43.079
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully we're going to get him. Oh this is

1545
01:37:43.199 --> 01:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>this is really stunning. Uh, I don't know what sixteen

1546
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>hundred means. That's look at that lake.

1547
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

1548
01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so i'd like to hear I'm I'm not going

1549
01:37:56.479 --> 01:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to be surprised if he's heard Bigfoot howls. Look at

1550
01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:04.439
<v Speaker 1>those flowers. Wow. Yeah, and see if we can get

1551
01:38:04.520 --> 01:38:08.600
<v Speaker 1>him to tell what he experienced up there on the trail.

1552
01:38:08.680 --> 01:38:14.079
<v Speaker 1>This was day eighty six, twenty six July. He's just

1553
01:38:14.840 --> 01:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a really there he is, and that's Mike. He

1554
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>did not have that big He looked very clean shaven.

1555
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>This guy looked Air Force officer all the way when

1556
01:38:27.680 --> 01:38:31.520
<v Speaker 1>I served with him. But you know, he's kind of

1557
01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:36.199
<v Speaker 1>get an idea there, so yeah, that'll be really cool anyway.

1558
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:38.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, it is time to get out of here.

1559
01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:44.039
<v Speaker 1>We have We've done enough for tonight. It was awesome,

1560
01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, this is just amazing. Right. These looked

1561
01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:54.159
<v Speaker 1>like professional photographs. Let me get back back up with

1562
01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you here. Thank you everybody. Yes, what a fun night.

1563
01:38:59.359 --> 01:39:02.359
<v Speaker 1>I hope you and enjoyed it, and I hope let

1564
01:39:02.479 --> 01:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>us know in the comments if you'd like to do

1565
01:39:05.119 --> 01:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>more of these. I'd like to do more. They are scary.

1566
01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Take a solar chart, Thank you, Val. Hellah see, leave

1567
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it to the attorney to make sure you are thank you, Val.

1568
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Leave it to a bear spray. Absolutely. I think I'll

1569
01:39:23.359 --> 01:39:27.800
<v Speaker 1>stick to the beach. Yes, you know, you know, and

1570
01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you say that, Malcolm Jamal Warner just went swimming. Where

1571
01:39:32.439 --> 01:39:36.119
<v Speaker 1>was that in the Bahama? In the Bahamas? Malcolm think? So?

1572
01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Was it the Bahamas? Malcolm Jamar Wanner just when swimming

1573
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:42.359
<v Speaker 1>got carried out to see I have been drug out

1574
01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:45.840
<v Speaker 1>in at Laguna Beach. I was out there. I was

1575
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.960
<v Speaker 1>with my wife, my friend from high school and his

1576
01:39:49.079 --> 01:39:52.279
<v Speaker 1>wife and they're like, oh, you know back home they

1577
01:39:52.319 --> 01:39:54.479
<v Speaker 1>call me Dave. They're like, hey, you want to You're

1578
01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:56.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna go out in the way. I mean it was cold.

1579
01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean the water in California, if you've been in

1580
01:39:58.920 --> 01:40:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the beach in California is cold and in the winter

1581
01:40:01.680 --> 01:40:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it's real cold. Like, hey, Dave, you I said, yeah,

1582
01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll jump in the water. I mean, just having shorts on.

1583
01:40:07.760 --> 01:40:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Was it was tricky that day after having lunch, I

1584
01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:16.600
<v Speaker 1>jumped in the water and within a minute a minute

1585
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I felt I was getting carried out to see within

1586
01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:24.039
<v Speaker 1>a minute and I was swimming or I was swimming

1587
01:40:24.119 --> 01:40:27.439
<v Speaker 1>from my life to get back to shore. So now

1588
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:31.439
<v Speaker 1>on the shore, my friend Jimmy's there, his wife's Sarah,

1589
01:40:31.479 --> 01:40:33.600
<v Speaker 1>my wife's and they're like oh and they're waving everything

1590
01:40:33.720 --> 01:40:37.840
<v Speaker 1>good and and I'm swimming like there's they don't know

1591
01:40:38.039 --> 01:40:41.079
<v Speaker 1>how how hard I'm swimming to get to shore, and

1592
01:40:41.359 --> 01:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in a in a I'm I'm basically in a panic,

1593
01:40:44.079 --> 01:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>to be quite honest with you, But I made it,

1594
01:40:46.640 --> 01:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'm a I'm a Oh it's Stever's

1595
01:40:49.640 --> 01:40:52.479
<v Speaker 1>dad was a cop. Thank you very much, Diane for

1596
01:40:52.680 --> 01:40:57.600
<v Speaker 1>contributing that, because now we know so she should have

1597
01:40:57.640 --> 01:41:01.479
<v Speaker 1>been able to ask somebody. Thank you. I'm glad you

1598
01:41:01.680 --> 01:41:05.880
<v Speaker 1>liked it. Rocker Chick and so. Yeah. So you can

1599
01:41:05.920 --> 01:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>get into trouble even on the beach. You can get

1600
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:13.159
<v Speaker 1>in the water. There's an MMA fighter named Diego Brandall,

1601
01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>and he once told me he went in Brazil, he

1602
01:41:16.039 --> 01:41:19.560
<v Speaker 1>got drug out, he got drug out further than from

1603
01:41:19.640 --> 01:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>what it uh. He told me he got he got

1604
01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:24.720
<v Speaker 1>sucked out to see further than what he thought. And

1605
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:27.359
<v Speaker 1>he said, you know what, I'm gonna save my I'm

1606
01:41:27.399 --> 01:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna save my life. Right now. My dad's on the beach.

1607
01:41:30.279 --> 01:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I think his dad didn't swim and and he swam

1608
01:41:34.119 --> 01:41:38.159
<v Speaker 1>his ass and and made it to shore. And it's

1609
01:41:38.239 --> 01:41:40.319
<v Speaker 1>it's just one of those things, man, you know. I mean,

1610
01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:44.119
<v Speaker 1>my my situation was not as dire, but I know

1611
01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:48.399
<v Speaker 1>I felt myself getting sucked out and I swam everything

1612
01:41:48.439 --> 01:41:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I was worth to get to shore. I'm a better

1613
01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:53.399
<v Speaker 1>swimmer now than I was then, but you know, trying

1614
01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to show off and get in the water when it

1615
01:41:55.680 --> 01:41:57.479
<v Speaker 1>was just to show I could get in the cold water.

1616
01:41:57.920 --> 01:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>But look, watch what the tide is doing. Is the

1617
01:42:02.079 --> 01:42:06.119
<v Speaker 1>tide coming in? Is the tide going out? And I

1618
01:42:06.199 --> 01:42:09.439
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a booie. I swim with a swim booe now,

1619
01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:11.760
<v Speaker 1>so I can always grab that booey if I get

1620
01:42:11.800 --> 01:42:16.479
<v Speaker 1>in trouble, and in most cases, you know, I'll be okay.

1621
01:42:17.239 --> 01:42:20.039
<v Speaker 1>I didn't none of those things. The tide was going out.

1622
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have even gotten the water because the tide

1623
01:42:22.840 --> 01:42:25.199
<v Speaker 1>is going out, so you can get in trouble anyway.

1624
01:42:25.359 --> 01:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, final words, Jeff fun.

1625
01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, and now that I you know, now, I

1626
01:42:33.479 --> 01:42:36.319
<v Speaker 3>want everybody to hear about Eric Peterson too, of course,

1627
01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:37.640
<v Speaker 3>so we'll do that one.

1628
01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:40.920
<v Speaker 2>So we'll do that one because that one. Yeah, that

1629
01:42:41.039 --> 01:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>one's cool too.

1630
01:42:41.960 --> 01:42:44.159
<v Speaker 1>They're shocking. We'll do Eric Peterson. We'll hit up some

1631
01:42:44.279 --> 01:42:48.520
<v Speaker 1>more next time, yeah, for sure. Shout out to Exon Missing,

1632
01:42:48.600 --> 01:42:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to David Plaidi's and missing for one one.

1633
01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It is amazing topic. So on, behalf of Boston, bea

1634
01:42:55.680 --> 01:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>This DJ is saying peace out, one love, We will

1635
01:42:59.399 --> 01:43:02.680
<v Speaker 1>see you down the damn road.
