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Speaker 1: some cool stuff. We're gonna get an update on what's
Speaker 1: happening in the the Miles King case with our very
Speaker 1: uncourageous friend Adam Lally. Then we're gonna get into We
Speaker 1: are going to watch with you the Missing for one
Speaker 1: one bidness and we're gonna get your reactions to it.
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Speaker 1: be on the phone. But the promise I'm gonna make
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Speaker 1: I'm reready's out that you are right? I'm not?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: And also I want to put this up. Let me
Speaker 1: get a photo. Okay, Yeah, let's let's do this damn
Speaker 1: thing before we get into it, before we get into
Speaker 1: talking about missing people. I'm gonna talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about Kelly Deaver. I know I said your name wrong,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw a temper tantrum, you know. And
Speaker 1: I just want to say this about uh miss right now,
Speaker 1: or you know what, I'll call her the proper name
Speaker 1: for the purposes of this conversation, Miss dev People call
Speaker 1: me DeMarco as my last name. It's happened a zillion
Speaker 1: times in my life. Okay. But if I'm sitting on
Speaker 1: the stand of a murder trial where a woman can
Speaker 1: go to to jail for second degree murder, the one
Speaker 1: thing you don't want to act like in terms of
Speaker 1: like that like a little baby is you don't want
Speaker 1: to act like like she did. No, not you, Adam,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I'm talking about this one. You know what.
Speaker 1: Let me get her up on the screen, right yeah,
Speaker 1: let me get yeah yeah, So go ahead, you know,
Speaker 1: can you expand on that a little bit? What you
Speaker 1: saw in her testimony.
Speaker 3: Well, it just wasn't very becoming of a sworn police
Speaker 3: officer my opinion.
Speaker 2: It just seemed I mean, for somebody.
Speaker 3: Who's supposed to I mean police police officers are trained
Speaker 3: on how to you know, going to court as part
Speaker 3: of their job, right like they this is part of
Speaker 3: their training, and I.
Speaker 2: Just didn't show it.
Speaker 3: She didn't come across as unbiased, she didn't come across
Speaker 3: as professional in any way. So it was just very immature,
Speaker 3: definitely very you know, just not what you would expect
Speaker 3: from a police police officer, no matter how young they were.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, I mean that you don't want to you don't,
Speaker 1: you don't want to act. Oh yet it looks like
Speaker 1: they've got the photo I found of her, they haven't said,
Speaker 1: as a web app, so they don't want me to
Speaker 1: download it, which is so these people are so stupid.
Speaker 1: They make it like they created the artwork, and it's like, dude,
Speaker 1: guess what, like you did create this man? You know
Speaker 1: I got news for you. You did not invent the artwork.
Speaker 1: That is a photograph of Kelly Deaver. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: get over yourself, man, really, So I'll see if it'll
Speaker 1: let me down, download it and show it. What I've
Speaker 1: had to do, like what I had to do with Lally,
Speaker 1: was I had to get a specific app in order
Speaker 1: to convert that, to convert that to a different file
Speaker 1: so that I could show it. Because yeah, they did
Speaker 1: the same thing with this one. Yeah, they're like little
Speaker 1: little children. They you know what, there's another way I
Speaker 1: can show it. So guess what, a CB whatever, You're
Speaker 1: not going to keep me from showing it, because what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is I'm gonna show this resent present, Hobs.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Here we go, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1: We'll share this one. Uh there it is, okay, So
Speaker 1: I think everybody can see multitudes of her face right now,
Speaker 1: much to your chagrin. Very unprofessional, And I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the substance of what of what she did
Speaker 1: and what she said when she said I'm required to
Speaker 1: tell the truth or I lose my job. And and
Speaker 1: and then what she actually did talk about that would
Speaker 1: you be a sure?
Speaker 3: I mean, she said she went to the Commissioner's office
Speaker 3: and she was told do the right thing. And you know,
Speaker 3: subsequent to her testifying, Commissioner Cox said, I've never I've
Speaker 3: never talked to her. So who's lying here? Is it
Speaker 3: Commissioner Cox or is it Kelly Dever?
Speaker 1: I both actually both because she didn't want to characterize.
Speaker 1: She first of all, she had trouble characterizing what the
Speaker 1: nature of the conversation was. But then she eventually said,
Speaker 1: he stands by his officers. I said, we support you.
Speaker 1: And then he was like he didn't even want to
Speaker 1: admit that he knew her and had a conversation. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about Karen.
Speaker 2: Read So did she have another false memory?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Another false memory? And the thing the thing is
Speaker 1: is when you said, and I'm talking to you now, Kelly,
Speaker 1: you said you sworn oath. You said, I swore an oath.
Speaker 1: This is part of my job. You know, if I
Speaker 1: don't do this, I get fired. You know, all these
Speaker 1: kinds of things. And what you really missed is the
Speaker 1: what oath really matters. Is it the oath that you
Speaker 1: swear in court, is it your sworn oath as an
Speaker 1: officer of the law, or is it the unsworn oath,
Speaker 1: the unwritten rule that no matter what other officers do,
Speaker 1: you support them. What's more important, what can you rank
Speaker 1: them for me? One, two, and three?
Speaker 3: Well, I would say, are you asking me.
Speaker 1: Or you asking? So I'm asking her? I mean, but
Speaker 1: if you, if you want to add to what I've said,
Speaker 1: you have some.
Speaker 3: Thought because her being a swarm police officer and her
Speaker 3: taking an oath on the stand should be one and
Speaker 3: the same because at the end of the day, it
Speaker 3: should be exactly how it happened and should be the truth.
Speaker 2: Right, So those two should match.
Speaker 1: Yes, it should be the truth. But the then there's
Speaker 1: the unwritten rule that Alan made reference to that she
Speaker 1: would not admit to. And she said, I don't remember,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna sit there to us and okay, you're
Speaker 1: telling me is you swore You're gonna lie on the
Speaker 1: stand and say there may been cameras in there, but
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't know what they were showing.
Speaker 1: You're a liar. Yeah, you went on television and you
Speaker 1: lied in front of everybody. You lied because you know
Speaker 1: you work there. You know if are you ninety years old,
Speaker 1: you can't remember what happened you know two years ago
Speaker 1: that inside CPD. You know in your age in your twenties,
Speaker 1: you remember everything. That's what's so great about being in
Speaker 1: your teens in your twenties is you remember. One of
Speaker 1: the sad things is everything stupid you did and every
Speaker 1: time you were embarrassed. You remember every one of those
Speaker 1: moments in your teens, in your twenties, in your thirties,
Speaker 1: and then as you get older, you start to forget
Speaker 1: and people have to remind you. That's why we have
Speaker 1: these high school Going to my high school reunion, people
Speaker 1: can remind me of what an idiot I was, or
Speaker 1: something I did at a party or said. So you lied,
Speaker 1: And let me ask you this of the sworn oath
Speaker 1: as an officer and as as the oath that you took,
Speaker 1: uh do you swear to tell truth, hold truth, nothing
Speaker 1: but the truth? So help you God, I do. And
Speaker 1: then and then you go on there and lie, and
Speaker 1: you know that if you're successful, is Tim, Hi, Tim,
Speaker 1: welcome jam the nidos. If you go on there and
Speaker 1: you lie and you're successful, a woman goes to jail.
Speaker 1: Karen Reid, another Massachusetts born and raised girl like yourself.
Speaker 1: Is that okay?
Speaker 3: And never mind the fact that it was as a
Speaker 3: direct result of her testifying when she were not testifying,
Speaker 3: excuse me, when she was questioned by the Feds. This
Speaker 3: is the whole thing she's trying to spin into a
Speaker 3: false memory. Is something that she voluntarily gave to them
Speaker 3: and then tried to walk it back. So it wasn't
Speaker 3: like somebody said, like, she this is what she said
Speaker 3: to the Feds.
Speaker 1: Well, she that's because she knew. And when Alan tried
Speaker 1: to ask her, did they tell you would be prosecuted
Speaker 1: that it was a crime to lie to them? And
Speaker 1: she she didn't want to admit that. And then she
Speaker 1: she says to him, and you told me on the phone.
Speaker 1: And I think thought Alan should have answered her back
Speaker 1: in court that when she said that, you told me
Speaker 1: you were going to file charges again. No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm not a prosecutor anymore, although I was for sixteen years.
Speaker 1: I can't file charges as a defense attorney. Dummy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Hifina Vena's here, but and thank you demonstrating loyalty was
Speaker 1: much more important to her than credibility. Immature, unprofessional demeanor
Speaker 1: was demonstrating her extreme loyalty to the PPD slash her tribe.
Speaker 1: Thank you, val, That's exactly what it was. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Was she forced to lie in the stand by the well?
Speaker 1: First of all, nobody can force you stand by the
Speaker 1: commission and then said he didn't know who she was.
Speaker 1: Would that be grounds for her to sue him? Does
Speaker 1: the commissioner's order trump? Well, no, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Again,
Speaker 1: when you go in front of court, I mean they
Speaker 1: do it all the time. I mean police officers probably
Speaker 1: lie every single day in a court somewhere. And I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say probably, they do, and that's not you know,
Speaker 1: I mean they just look at it as that's part
Speaker 1: of the job. It's either them or us. But ultimately,
Speaker 1: you're out there, you're at the cape, you're having a
Speaker 1: fucking barbecue with your husband or boyfriend whatever it is,
Speaker 1: who I think is also a cop. And this lady
Speaker 1: goes to jail Aaron Reid. But it's okay, It's totally
Speaker 1: okay if Reid goes to jail because of the fact
Speaker 1: that you know, you had to support these other officers.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, it's just part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what if she goes to jail, I'll look at
Speaker 1: her on the I'll change the channel, you know, give
Speaker 1: me the remote when they do it. When I'm watching
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, you know, I turn on in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: happens to be ond and her profiling Karen Reid at
Speaker 1: a women's prison, and she has an orange jumpsuit. And
Speaker 1: it's okay, cool, I mean because I had to protect Higgins, right.
Speaker 3: But protect Higgins at what costs to now never be
Speaker 3: trusted again? Because you can't believe anything that this, you
Speaker 3: know that she says.
Speaker 2: She can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, any case that she's touched in the past,
Speaker 3: are they gonna believe what she said? Because it could
Speaker 3: be a false memory. She admitted that she has false memory.
Speaker 3: This could literally be a condition.
Speaker 1: But how did be a how how is this girl
Speaker 1: gonna go and just live her and just go? You know,
Speaker 1: this is cool? Man, Higgins may have participated in the murder.
Speaker 1: I saw he and Berkie hanging out, hanging.
Speaker 2: Out for usually long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, an unusually long time. And she actually used another
Speaker 1: word that was even more unusual than unusual.
Speaker 2: It was a weirdly weirdly long time. A long time, yeah,
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: Yes, and and and that's okay. That's so, it's okay
Speaker 1: if Karen goes to prison, as long as we protect Higgins.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't get it. Fuck Higgins. If Higgins
Speaker 1: did some ship, Higgins can go and he can suck it, man,
Speaker 1: he can go suck it up and explain to explain
Speaker 1: to the UH, the authorities what he did.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: But then I find another job, and you know, some
Speaker 1: you know something else. Even if you quit and you
Speaker 1: resign the next day, you know, if you've got a
Speaker 1: clean record as a law enforcement officer, I can move
Speaker 1: somewhere else and become a law enforcement officer. It's it's
Speaker 1: up and until you get on this Brady list. Now
Speaker 1: you've got problems. If you go to Caneli's Park and
Speaker 1: you know, near Tampa and go to become a sheriff,
Speaker 1: a deputy sheriff, that that could be a problem, but
Speaker 1: not a problem. Just go you know what, I resigned
Speaker 1: and you go to and they interview you down there
Speaker 1: in Penel's Park and you're like, yeah, man, I was
Speaker 1: up in the suburb of Boston Sheriff, and I mean
Speaker 1: they were trying to I mean they wanted me to
Speaker 1: lie and then and put this girl in jail for murder.
Speaker 1: I saw something on camera, and I told the FBI
Speaker 1: the truth. You know what that Sheriff's gonna say, be you.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm proud of you for telling the truth.
Speaker 1: Like Steve, the North Carolina police officer we had on right,
Speaker 1: Yeah cool? And how about the North Carolina trooper that
Speaker 1: was in the chat with chatting with us, He's gonna
Speaker 1: be like cool. I know they do all this mob
Speaker 1: kind of shit up in Boston or New York, but
Speaker 1: we're not. You know, we don't do that here. Man
Speaker 1: or even Sheriff Eric Ayden down there in Fort Walton
Speaker 1: Beach his officer went and shot that airman at his doorstep. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fired a day later, fired and then arrested.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand what she thought, like like by
Speaker 3: her walking that statement back, by her protecting Higgins, exactly
Speaker 3: what was gonna was it worth her losing her career?
Speaker 1: Like well she she obviously didn't look that far into it.
Speaker 1: What is it? Is her boyfriend or husband a cop?
Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I think I don't think she's married,
Speaker 2: but I said.
Speaker 1: Her boyfriend's a cop. Is her boyfriend? If someone in
Speaker 1: the chat can clear this up for us, Hi, Coco,
Speaker 1: how are you? How is I'm sorry, how's Brian doing?
Speaker 1: And uh, I'm just kidding. I was just kidd that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be funny. Do a fake laugh now, thank you?
Speaker 1: That's that's a fake laugh, thank you? Yes, all right.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, I don't think she thought that far
Speaker 1: or she didn't consult. I can't speak to what was
Speaker 1: in her mind other than to do the wrong thing.
Speaker 1: And and what should have been in her mind is
Speaker 1: you know what, I can walk in and resign tomorrow
Speaker 1: and I can go get a job elsewhere, and my
Speaker 1: jacket is clean. My jacket is clean because you know
Speaker 1: when I when I went and I applied for a
Speaker 1: police academy, uh, and actually was accepted to a police
Speaker 1: academy which was in Brevard County in Florida, And they
Speaker 1: had patches on the wall from at least one hundred
Speaker 1: different police institutions that came and spoke at that academy,
Speaker 1: and they said, that jacket follows you everywhere. So what
Speaker 1: you do in this department, it's not like it might
Speaker 1: have been in the you know, the seventies or maybe
Speaker 1: even the early eighties. That jacket from when you started
Speaker 1: this academy, that jacket goes with you everywhere you go,
Speaker 1: and her jacket is clean. If she goes to somewhere else,
Speaker 1: I don't even think she has to leave the state personally.
Speaker 1: You think Great Barrington cares what these ass wipes do
Speaker 1: in Canton, PD. I don't think so. I don't even
Speaker 1: know that some of the troopers necessarily care. But that's
Speaker 1: neither here nor there. It could have been Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: it could have been New York, it could have been
Speaker 1: New Jersey, it could have been Maryland, whatever, you know.
Speaker 1: But what she did do is now she has a
Speaker 1: dirty record because of the stupid Rady thing. But that
Speaker 1: shouldn't be her biggest concern. Her biggest concern should be
Speaker 1: Karen effing Red. That should be her concern. This woman
Speaker 1: almost went to jail for doing nothing but dropping her
Speaker 1: boyfriend off at this home, and these animals covered it
Speaker 1: up and put him out in the snow. And unless
Speaker 1: you're an idiot, you know that. And none of you
Speaker 1: are idiots, not even you anti Karen Reid not even Kevin,
Speaker 1: not even Kate. Kate knows what happened that night. Kevin
Speaker 1: knows what happened that night. All of these morons know
Speaker 1: what happened that night. They're just doing this for another
Speaker 1: they have another reason. Let's get her off the stage
Speaker 1: and get this guy on there, tough guy here. Let's
Speaker 1: get this tough guy on there, Ti get away.
Speaker 3: Wow. He You know, we were expecting him to continue
Speaker 3: with you know, his his his testimony, and you know
Speaker 3: it didn't happen. The judge got stuck on wanting a
Speaker 3: spreadsheet after the defense attorney, what is it? Scipechio said,
Speaker 3: some meat buzz. So anyways, you know, this poor defense
Speaker 3: attorney that morning got dumped two hundred pages of discovery
Speaker 3: just before the hearing, had gotten dumped the previous three
Speaker 3: hundred pages. She was still sorting through everything, and now
Speaker 3: the judge and she had her own spreadsheet that the
Speaker 3: judge looks at and he's like, well, I don't know
Speaker 3: how to read this.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to read this, and made.
Speaker 3: Her now go sit for three hours with the prosecutor
Speaker 3: cross referencing and on top of each document in which
Speaker 3: she was trying to say that is that not all
Speaker 3: the documents, like the documents she had been receiving all along,
Speaker 3: they weren't labeled correctly.
Speaker 2: They weren't what they said the documents were.
Speaker 3: Wasn't what was you know, in the in the files
Speaker 3: Like she's totally you know, and I'm surprised she didn't
Speaker 3: fight harder. But I mean, I guess as an attorney,
Speaker 3: you know when to pick your battles. But the judge
Speaker 3: definitely had attitude. He was definitely trying to protect.
Speaker 1: Scott Guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, Scotty boy, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I was reading No, no, no, it's just no, I
Speaker 3: was just reading Scotty, Scotty.
Speaker 1: Saying twenty plus years making the donut, we gotta make
Speaker 1: the donuts of here in Joycyda. Meet Baul Morrissey Lelly
Speaker 1: could give zero fs anymore exactly. I mean that, I
Speaker 1: mean Mark Beto pointed this out ad nauseam and better
Speaker 1: than I'll ever say it is that he just looked apathetic, uninterested. Yeah,
Speaker 1: couldn't care less. I would say this to Adam. You know, Adam,
Speaker 1: you've gone, You've put a bunch of people on the stand.
Speaker 1: This is our new mod by the way, Scott McGinnis,
Speaker 1: you put a bunch of people on the stand, and
Speaker 1: you then along with Meatball Myerscy, you hired this attack
Speaker 1: dog in Hank Brennan, who takes probably one of the
Speaker 1: most distinguished women in the last you know, thirty years
Speaker 1: out of Boston, forty years in a woman who was
Speaker 1: in Mit before her I believe it was her mother
Speaker 1: that died and she left was seven years a police officer,
Speaker 1: then goes to medical school, then is trained in emergency medicine,
Speaker 1: and then becomes the chief doctor of a very small
Speaker 1: country hospital in a rural area that serves just a
Speaker 1: few people called UCLA Medical Center, i e. The most
Speaker 1: prestigious hospital in the southern part of California, like from
Speaker 1: on down the UCLA Medical Center. And then you guys
Speaker 1: go and you tear this woman apart and try to
Speaker 1: embarrass her and spend her money to get her to
Speaker 1: come back, what three four times at least at least
Speaker 1: twice during the last wad year and you can't even
Speaker 1: and you guys, you guys are using this little punchline
Speaker 1: for Karen Reid called a lawyer right away, and you
Speaker 1: can't even go on the stand and defend yourself against
Speaker 1: against your actions as DA. You look like a coward, Sir,
Speaker 1: you look like a punk in a bedro said he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was better or brother. Counsel said,
Speaker 1: I've never seen a lawyer in and this is just
Speaker 1: an evidentiary hearing. Bring in a personal attorney. It's not
Speaker 1: like your, uh, what's that lady's name, Carrie Morrisey in
Speaker 1: the in the Alec Baldwin trial where you're literally in
Speaker 1: the middle of trial and she goes on the stand.
Speaker 1: That would have been a good time to bring an attorney. Yes,
Speaker 1: Kerry Morrissey, Hi, peaches, how are you are you in season?
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I'm sure teaches are in season, so anyway,
Speaker 1: but yeah, uh, you bring an attorney to go up
Speaker 1: and just defend your actions. You're a coward. But yet
Speaker 1: you're willing to call people up there and to stand and
Speaker 1: throw your hands around and you know, play with your glasses.
Speaker 1: Why you know, why couldn't you just go out there
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, I went and I followed the proper procedures,
Speaker 1: I followed protocols, and I asked for these materials for
Speaker 1: the uh the.
Speaker 2: Search exactly what you just said, is the problem.
Speaker 3: There was no procedures, there was no policy, there was
Speaker 3: no Tickler system.
Speaker 2: He doesn't. Oh, I don't know. We really don't have
Speaker 2: a policy.
Speaker 1: Well why couldn't he answer that? Then? Why do you
Speaker 1: need a lawyer for that lawyer? I object? He can't
Speaker 1: talk about the procedures in the DA's office. Right, what's that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the whole problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was he gonna say? I object? He's gonna say, overruled? Uh,
Speaker 1: please answer? What are your procedures? Yeah, mister Lally, how
Speaker 1: many times did you ask trooper former Trooper Proctor for
Speaker 1: those other five point five search ones? I object? Overruled,
Speaker 1: mister Lally? How many times did you ask? I mean,
Speaker 1: what is this for? Howard? All Right?
Speaker 3: It just thinks that Judge Cropp this time just kind
Speaker 3: of you know, with Proctor there with with his attorney,
Speaker 3: Adam there, Adam Lally there with his attorney, like it
Speaker 3: was just such a waste of time.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't, No, No, their best he is here,
Speaker 1: so make sure recognition. All Right, We've had enough of
Speaker 1: these punching bags for tonight. I'm kicking me out of
Speaker 1: the studio.
Speaker 2: So we're back on the twelve.
Speaker 3: So we don't know if they're going to be, if
Speaker 3: Proctor's coming back, if Lally's coming back with his attorney,
Speaker 3: because right now Adam Lally isn't even covering this case
Speaker 3: has gone to another prosecutor, so he's not even the
Speaker 3: pro no longer the prosecutor on the on the Miles
Speaker 3: King case.
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Speaker 1: All right, enough of that, we're gonna go to some
Speaker 1: inexplicable things now, so let me bring that up. And
Speaker 1: like I said, I believe this is gonna blow your mind.
Speaker 1: It blew our minds. And then i'd like to get
Speaker 1: your takes on. So let's start with the tourists, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with someone named Sarah Levin. So don't
Speaker 1: freak out, guys, it's not Sarah Levinson. She hasn't gone
Speaker 1: to Yosemite. I know some of you wish that she
Speaker 1: would get lost, but she hasn't. So there you go,
Speaker 1: and let's listen. Tell me if you can hear it.
Speaker 4: Sarah Levin, a thirty one year old San Francisco resident,
Speaker 4: decided in April nineteen ninety seven to take a mini
Speaker 4: trip to Yosemite National Park to escape the hustle and
Speaker 4: bustle of city life. She had a short weekend off
Speaker 4: between work schedules, and according to her friends, Sarah had
Speaker 4: long been eyeing the legendary Mistrail leading to the majestic
Speaker 4: Vernal Fall in Nevada Fall. This trail is known for
Speaker 4: its beauty and popularity, even in spring, when the waters
Speaker 4: are full and the spray from the waterfall can turn
Speaker 4: the path into a real water show. Sarah, being athletic
Speaker 4: and loving a challenge, decided that April, when the snow
Speaker 4: had not yet completely melted on the peaks and the
Speaker 4: waterflow was strong, was the perfect time to see Yosemite
Speaker 4: and all its pristine glory. Dot Early in the morning
Speaker 4: on April twelfth, nineteen ninety seven, Sarah arrived at the
Speaker 4: park in her car parked in Yosemite Valley, registered her
Speaker 4: route at the ranger station, and informed them that she
Speaker 4: planned to hike the mist Trail, admire Vernal Falls, and
Speaker 4: if she had time, reach Nevada and return by evening.
Speaker 4: The weather was clear and relatively warm, with the sun
Speaker 4: shining and only a light breeze occasionally bringing cool air
Speaker 4: from the canyons. No one, including Sarah herself, imagined that
Speaker 4: this day's hike would turn into one of the most
Speaker 4: inexplicable episodes in the park's history. Despite its popularity, the
Speaker 4: Mist Trail has sections of very slippery stone steps, especially
Speaker 4: in the spring when spray from the waterfall drenches everything
Speaker 4: around it. However, Sarah was in excellent physical shape.
Speaker 1: On the way.
Speaker 4: She at several tourists and exchanged a few words with
Speaker 4: them about the route. Later, many of them recalled how
Speaker 4: happy and cheerful she looked, saying that she radiated positivity.
Speaker 4: When it was almost noon, according to one group, Sarah
Speaker 4: was sitting on a rock at the viewpoint above Vernal,
Speaker 4: snacking and taking pictures of the rainbow in the spray
Speaker 4: of the waterfall. She told someone that she would continue
Speaker 4: along the Mist Trail a little further, but did not
Speaker 4: intend to linger too long. At one pm, she spoke
Speaker 4: briefly with a ranger passing by, reporting that everything was
Speaker 4: fine and the trail was not too slippery. The trail
Speaker 4: then climbs towards Nevada Falls, passing through a pine and
Speaker 4: fir glade. At around two pm, according to two hikers,
Speaker 4: Sarah was still walking up the trail, but no one
Speaker 4: saw her after that, and then around three pm, at
Speaker 4: a time when the trail is usually busy, something very
Speaker 4: unusual happened as a small group of three young people
Speaker 4: who were climbing a little higher later reported, we were
Speaker 4: walking along the mistrail when we suddenly noticed a strange
Speaker 4: fog appearing in the clear sky. It enveloped part of
Speaker 4: the trail for literally a minute, visibility was almost zero,
Speaker 4: and then it all dissipated in clear weather. Fog over
Speaker 4: the trail is not uncommon spray evaporation, but it is
Speaker 4: unusual for it to be so thick and disappear so quickly.
Speaker 4: At the same time, a woman who was photographing the
Speaker 4: waterfalls claimed that at that time she saw a girl,
Speaker 4: presumably Sarah, standing on a flat section of the trail.
Speaker 4: In a second, everything was covered in a grayish fog.
Speaker 4: She looked away from the camera, and when she looked back,
Speaker 4: there was no one there, as if the person had disappeared.
Speaker 4: She decided that she had just moved away because she
Speaker 4: was scared of the spray. However, in the evening, when
Speaker 4: Sarah did not return to the car and did not
Speaker 4: get in touch, alarm bell started ringing. In Yosemite, if
Speaker 4: someone doesn't show up by nightfall, they may have been
Speaker 4: delayed by photography or gone camping, but Sarah's friends and family,
Speaker 4: whom she had told about her plans, were worried. By midnight,
Speaker 4: the rangers knew that a tourist was missing on the mistrail.
Speaker 4: At dawn, search and rescue teams arrived at the trail,
Speaker 4: combing every turn, crevice and rock ledge. The result was zero.
Speaker 4: There were no signs of a struggle on the rocky terrain.
Speaker 4: Sarah's clothes or backpack were nowhere to be found. Everything
Speaker 4: looked untouched, as if a person had simply vanished into
Speaker 4: thin air. The story of a thick fog in a
Speaker 4: perfectly clear sky was particularly puzzling. The place where it
Speaker 4: was spotted was found, but there were no signs that
Speaker 4: anyone had fallen or damaged anything there. Dogs that picked
Speaker 4: up Sarah's scent from her car climbed the mist trail
Speaker 4: to a certain point, then began to run around, losing
Speaker 4: the trail. On the stone steps from Vernal Falls to
Speaker 4: the clearing near Nevada. It would be logical to expect
Speaker 4: that someone would have seen or heard a scream, but
Speaker 4: there was nothing. Tourists who climbed up later reported that
Speaker 4: the trail was deserted for a certain stretch, and that
Speaker 4: they heard no noise other than the usual roar of
Speaker 4: the waterfall. A week of extensive searches yielded no clues.
Speaker 4: The California State Police even called in a helicopter to
Speaker 4: search the area. Perhaps the tourist had strayed from the
Speaker 4: trail and fallen into the canyon, but there were no
Speaker 4: signs of a fall. If a person had fallen, there
Speaker 4: would usually be broken vegetation and a body.
Speaker 1: I just want to pause this for one second, Cabbys,
Speaker 1: the part that's going to freak you out. You now
Speaker 1: understand that Sarah Levin went missing, and this is in nine,
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven. Now we're getting to the part that's
Speaker 1: going to blow your mind. Just want to I want
Speaker 1: to get you set up for that, because that's what's
Speaker 1: about to happen. Let me turn the volume up a
Speaker 1: little bit. See how this works.
Speaker 4: No bodies, belongings, or backpacks were found in the water. Then,
Speaker 4: a month after Sarah's disappearance, there was a strange turn
Speaker 4: of events. Her personal belongings were found in the very
Speaker 4: place where, according to witnesses, she could have disappeared into
Speaker 4: the fog. A group of tourists passing by noticed neatly
Speaker 4: folded items on a rock, a cap, a water bottle,
Speaker 4: and a small notebook nearby. The most surprising thing was
Speaker 4: that this place had been searched many times before and
Speaker 4: nothing had been found. The police and rangers were completely baffled.
Speaker 4: How could the items have appeared after such a long time.
Speaker 4: The dogs were called in and I.
Speaker 1: Think you should hear it better now because I turned
Speaker 1: the YouTube volume up. Yeah, by the way, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad this is better. This is not what's going
Speaker 1: to freak you out. That's still coming. That they found
Speaker 1: her stuff a month later, after an area that had
Speaker 1: been searched that was a common obvious place. It's that
Speaker 1: what's going to freak you out is coming.
Speaker 4: And again, but to no avail. It was as if
Speaker 4: the items had been planted there. Maybe someone wanted to
Speaker 4: send a message, but it looked as if they hadn't
Speaker 4: been there long. They weren't dusty or wet. Sarah's parents said,
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous, playing a prank, but there were no
Speaker 4: clues as to the possible perpetrator. In the end, the
Speaker 4: case was classified as missing, no traces found. The case
Speaker 4: joined the sad list of mysterious disappearances in Yosemite. However,
Speaker 4: the story did not end there. A year after her disappearance,
Speaker 4: in early spring nineteen ninety eight, the police suddenly received
Speaker 4: a call from tourists. We found a girl at Misstrail.
Speaker 4: She's wandering around, looks scared, as if she doesn't understand
Speaker 4: what's going on. The rangers who arrived identified the young
Speaker 4: woman as Sarah Levin. She was wearing the same outfit
Speaker 4: she had worn a year earlier, although it was slightly
Speaker 4: dirty but not worn to shreds. Upon examination, doctors found
Speaker 4: no wounds, severe exhaustion, or any signs of frostbite. She
Speaker 4: seemed confused and did not understand why everyone around her
Speaker 4: was saying that a year had passed. During a brief interrogation,
Speaker 4: Sarah said, I got lost for a day, lost my
Speaker 4: way after that strange fog, but then I found on
Speaker 4: my way back. Has a year passed? That's impossible. Indeed,
Speaker 4: she felt that her disappearance had lasted no more than
Speaker 4: a day. According to her fellow geologists and the police,
Speaker 4: it seemed so inexplicable that doctors ran a series of tests,
Speaker 4: believing she might have memory loss or a mental disorder,
Speaker 4: but they found nothing wrong. She herself remembered all the
Speaker 4: details of her last day as if it were yesterday,
Speaker 4: not a year ago. Time had frozen for her. The
Speaker 4: psychologist noted only slight anxiety, but nothing more. Unfortunately, this
Speaker 4: incredible story did not receive much publicity. How could a
Speaker 4: person be missing in Yosemite for a year and then
Speaker 4: suddenly show up thinking that only a day had passed.
Speaker 4: The police were unable to provide an official explanation, simply
Speaker 4: documenting the facts. Sarah disappeared in April nineteen ninety seven
Speaker 4: and reappeared in April nineteen ninety eight in the same area.
Speaker 4: There were no signs of violence, her body was healthy,
Speaker 4: and her clothes did not look like they had been
Speaker 4: worn for a year of wandering. It's as if she
Speaker 4: fell out of reality, whispered the volunteers. Sarah's relatives thanked.
Speaker 1: Warp Wow.
Speaker 4: Yosemite, previously known for its mystical stories, now has another
Speaker 4: strange episode where a person who disappeared under mysterious circumstances
Speaker 4: returns a year later, believing that only a day has passed. Moreover,
Speaker 4: her belongings were found on the trail, But then the
Speaker 4: girl herself claims that she did not lose any of
Speaker 4: her belongings and that her cap and notebook were with
Speaker 4: her at all times before she disappeared. The official police
Speaker 4: version there is insufficient evidence to explain the disappearance, It
Speaker 4: does not appear to be a hoax, and no mental
Speaker 4: disorder has been diagnosed. The case remains unsolved. Contemporary commentators
Speaker 4: who respect the scientific approach prefer to talk about the
Speaker 4: phenomenon of dissociated fugue. But even this hypothesis does not
Speaker 4: explain how she saw, where she hid for a year,
Speaker 4: and why she did not change during that time. For
Speaker 4: enthusiasts of paranormal theories, this is a direct indication of
Speaker 4: a time slip, another reality, or some kind of anomaly.
Speaker 4: Yosemite continues to keep its secrets, and Sarah Levin's story
Speaker 4: has been added to the files on highly mysterious and
Speaker 4: frightening disappearances where nature itself seems to be playing with humans,
Speaker 4: blurring the boundaries of time and logic.
Speaker 1: All right, Cabby's uh, that is s xzone missing and
Speaker 1: take it away? Yeah, what do you got?
Speaker 3: Well, that's very bizarre. The fact that she just time
Speaker 3: hadn't changed for her. She was still in the same outfit.
Speaker 3: She thought it was just yesterday. Like, that's just crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very very bizarre.
Speaker 3: And then that her belongings had been returned before she
Speaker 3: was returned.
Speaker 2: Or came back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well her, Yeah, her belongings were found. Did they
Speaker 1: say a month later?
Speaker 3: I don't know if they said it was before, right,
Speaker 3: it was before she came back?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, but I mean a month after she went missing?
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, Yeah.
Speaker 1: But her clothes could not I mean, with those clothes,
Speaker 1: you couldn't survive a winter in Yosemite. There are not
Speaker 1: inches of snow, there are many feet of snow. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Val, It's it's crazy. Yes, Scott, that
Speaker 1: was funny waterfall. But her clothes weren't wet and terrifying, you.
Speaker 3: Know, jewels, and she wasn't Yeah, and she wasn't malnourished.
Speaker 2: She wasn't.
Speaker 3: She didn't have any kind of visible sign of any
Speaker 3: trauma either.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, you had to have subsisted per year. Her
Speaker 1: clothes would have been I mean a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know because they haven't spent a significant amount of
Speaker 1: times out in the woods. But your clothes get damaged
Speaker 1: much more when there are branches and leaves and rocks
Speaker 1: and terrain than there is with your office chair, your car,
Speaker 1: your sofa. Those are just clothes. One month, Thank you,
Speaker 1: Linda Mitchell. So yeah, it's it's your clothes would be
Speaker 1: very badly damaged and you you couldn't survive without a
Speaker 1: lot of outer wear. I mean you would you look
Speaker 1: like a different person. The length of her hair, I
Speaker 1: mean she would just look like a different person. Her
Speaker 1: face would be dirty, you know, unless you're showering. It's
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's fascinating. And and the fact that
Speaker 1: they couldn't find her. We're going to give you this
Speaker 1: is X Zone missing on YouTube. We put the it's
Speaker 1: in the show notes for this episode along with David
Speaker 1: Polides for one one. David Polides is the granddaddy of
Speaker 1: this genre, former detective from San Jose who found out
Speaker 1: that there are more people missing from Yosemite National Park
Speaker 1: than anywhere on Earth, according to David, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he would make that up.
Speaker 3: Right, because we heard about Eric Larson from Yosemite and
Speaker 3: that was in eighty nine, so that was eleven years later. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, eighty nine, And what am I saying? This
Speaker 3: was a ninety seven I'm sorry, eleven years earlier.
Speaker 1: Earlier. Yes, yeah, and we've got more. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: do I want to do a let me see if
Speaker 1: this is the one. I want to do one about
Speaker 1: the the rangers that have gone missing. It's really really weird.
Speaker 3: Yes, And imagine what happens to your body, your how
Speaker 3: you age in a year. I mean just simple things
Speaker 3: like you know, leg hair, like all the things that
Speaker 3: would have happened in that time frame, in a year
Speaker 3: that she was found, just like she was just seeing
Speaker 3: the day before, right, very I mean her hair would
Speaker 3: have been longer, her you know, her hair would have
Speaker 3: been longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she would have looked like a different person. You
Speaker 1: get very dirty. I've spent like a week in survival
Speaker 1: school without showering. You look very dirty. I mean after
Speaker 1: a week, it's it's yeah. I mean I did mine
Speaker 1: in Washington State where I did mine, which is not
Speaker 1: dissimilar to how it is here. Yeah. So okay, so
Speaker 1: this one right here is about park park rangers that
Speaker 1: we're missing. So we think of the amount of tourists
Speaker 1: who have gone missing. There was a church group that
Speaker 1: they talk about. I can't remember that person's name. Where
Speaker 1: they went on a well traveled trail that not dozens,
Speaker 1: but hundreds of people travel on this trail from the
Speaker 1: basin every day. And someone from a church group someday
Speaker 1: turned around and he was gone. There are people who
Speaker 1: have gone missing from the open areas, not even in
Speaker 1: the forest. Well, these are rangers. These are the most
Speaker 1: adept people in the woods, and these stories are hunting.
Speaker 1: So let me let us play this and get you
Speaker 1: to react. By the way, the jackass who keeps calling
Speaker 1: with unknown number, You remember that guy who's called a
Speaker 1: couple of times. Yep, Yeah, that douchebag. Okay, we're not
Speaker 1: answering your call. We're not gonna answer your call. And
Speaker 1: if anybody calls where I can't see your number, I'm
Speaker 1: not answering. And if it's you, I'm gonna hang up
Speaker 1: on you and you're gonna look like more of an
Speaker 1: idiot than you already look like. So don't make an
Speaker 1: ass out of yourself anymore than you already have on
Speaker 1: air a couple times acting like a jackass with Nan.
Speaker 1: Don't do it again unless you would do it to
Speaker 1: my face. All Right, and if that could be arranged,
Speaker 1: all right, so here we go. Oops, sorry, here we go.
Speaker 4: Then Sarah Newton her service cheap with its headlights on
Speaker 4: and the engine running as if she had never been there.
Speaker 4: These cases are separated by years and hundreds of miles,
Speaker 4: but they have one thing in common. They are inexplicable.
Speaker 4: And every time the radios are left behind turned on
Speaker 4: no signal. What is happening in America's national parks? And
Speaker 4: why are rangers the first to disappear?
Speaker 1: And this is what she was referencing from. Actually it's
Speaker 1: a year later.
Speaker 4: February nineteen eighty eight was an unusually snowy month for
Speaker 4: Yosemite National Park. At the beginning of the month, a
Speaker 4: powerful cyclone swept through the Sierra Nevada, dumping heavy snow
Speaker 4: on the mountain passes. The thickness of the fresh snow
Speaker 4: exceeded five feet in some places. For most tourists. The
Speaker 4: season was closed, but patrols of high altitude areas continued.
Speaker 4: The Badger Pass area is one such place, deserted, difficult
Speaker 4: to access but mandatory for inspection after snowfall due to
Speaker 4: the thread of avalanches and blocked trails. That day, the
Speaker 4: patrol was led by Eric William Larson, a thirty five
Speaker 4: year old ranger with eight years of experience. His colleagues
Speaker 4: respected him for his reliability and calmness. He was one
Speaker 4: of those who consistently followed protocol. Tall and thin, with
Speaker 4: a habit of wearing two pairs of socks even in summer,
Speaker 4: he treated his job as a personal mission. The service
Speaker 4: base in Wovone received its last call at all seven
Speaker 4: fourteen a m. He reported that he had reached the
Speaker 4: fork at the observation point, the snow was knee deep,
Speaker 4: no avalanches had been spotted, and he was continuing along
Speaker 4: the route. He said this as usual, clearly without fuss,
Speaker 4: and did not come on the air again. When the
Speaker 4: duty officer tried to contact him at one PM, there
Speaker 4: was no response. At first, they decided that he had
Speaker 4: simply gone into an area where the radio could not
Speaker 4: reach him. By three PM, the alarm grew. There was
Speaker 4: stable coverage in the area where Larson was traveling, and
Speaker 4: he rarely broke his communications schedule. At four thirty PM,
Speaker 4: management decided to launch an urgent ground search. A team
Speaker 4: was quickly assembled, two rangers and an experienced rescuer and
Speaker 4: they set off on snowmobiles along a well trodden trail.
Speaker 4: An hour later, at five fifty pm, they were on
Speaker 4: site at the edge of a clearing next to a
Speaker 4: snow covered trail. One of the rangers noticed a black
Speaker 4: radio lying directly on the snow. It was turned on.
Speaker 4: There were no signs of a fall or handprints on
Speaker 4: the case. It appeared to have been carefully placed on
Speaker 4: top of the snow. There were no other traces around it,
Speaker 4: only a transparent chain of Larsen's boot prints leading toward
Speaker 4: the clearing. They ended abruptly in the middle of the
Speaker 4: snowy space, where there were no bushes, rocks, or patches
Speaker 4: of melted snow. The tracks led to the middle of
Speaker 4: the clearing and disappeared. It was at this point that
Speaker 4: Larsen seemed to have fallen through the ground. There were
Speaker 4: no traces of his return, no displacement of snow, no
Speaker 4: signs of an avalanche. Investigators described the place as abnormally untouched,
Speaker 4: as if no one had ever been there. One of
Speaker 4: the rangers rode in his report the snow looked fresh,
Speaker 4: as if it had fallen during the night, but there
Speaker 4: were only as tracks in it and they disappeared in
Speaker 4: the center. There, three feet from the disappearance site appeared.
Speaker 4: They found another detail, a small piece of fabric frozen
Speaker 4: into the snow. It was a piece of a uniform.
Speaker 4: The rest of the equipment was missing. The next day
Speaker 4: a full scale search began. More than forty people, five snowmobiles,
Speaker 4: and two helicopters were involved. They searched an area with
Speaker 4: a radius of more than two miles. No signs of movement, struggle,
Speaker 4: or bodily injury were found. The condition of the snow
Speaker 4: was extraordinary. It was untouched even near the radio. The
Speaker 4: snow cover was solid and did not collapse, and according
Speaker 4: to meteorologists calculations, it could not have hidden human tracks
Speaker 4: in such a short time. There had been no avalanches
Speaker 4: in the area since December. There were no signs of
Speaker 4: wild life except for the occasional fox tracks near by.
Speaker 4: One of the weather station recordings captured a strange noise
Speaker 4: on the ranger's standard communication channel between eleven thirty and
Speaker 4: eleven thirty seven, approximately immediately after Larsen's last call. The
Speaker 4: recording was preserved on magnetic tape in the station's archives.
Speaker 4: The noise was described as jumping and muffled with no
Speaker 4: voice or obvious modulation. Some employees heard it live and
Speaker 4: thought it was a glitch or wind interference. Later experts
Speaker 4: from the Communications service listened to the fragment. No one
Speaker 4: could say for sure what it was. The data on
Speaker 4: the anomalies and the frequency was sent to the archives.
Speaker 4: On the fifth day of the search, the Badger Pass
Speaker 4: area resembled a war zone. Helicopters made six flights a day,
Speaker 4: and rescuers combed through the snow with flags and probes.
Speaker 4: About seventy people were involved, including three professional climbers and
Speaker 4: four dog handlers. Despite intensive efforts, each day brought only disappointment.
Speaker 4: No new clues emerged. The only thing they managed to
Speaker 4: find was on the fourth day, twenty six feet southeast
Speaker 4: of the disappearance site, when a rescuer stepped on something
Speaker 4: hard under a layer of packed snow. It turned out
Speaker 4: to be a piece of black plastic. It had Motorola
Speaker 4: markings on it, the same model as the service radio,
Speaker 4: but the one found on the first day had an
Speaker 4: intact casing. It was unclear whether it was a different
Speaker 4: device or part of unknown equipment. Later, when checking the
Speaker 4: serial numbers, it turned out that the fragment found did
Speaker 4: not belong to Larson. With each passing day, investigators had
Speaker 4: fewer and fewer rational explanations. Various theories were put forward,
Speaker 4: ranging from sudden disorientation and a fall into a ravine
Speaker 4: hidden by a crack to an animal attack, but none
Speaker 4: of them explained the main thing why the tracks stopped
Speaker 4: in the middle of an open area, why there were
Speaker 4: no entry or exit points nearby, and where the body was.
Speaker 4: Even the most skeptical participants in the operation began to
Speaker 4: admit that something ben.
Speaker 1: So clearly and this has happened with and Julie's well
Speaker 1: aware this with some bigfoot tracks as well. I've spoken
Speaker 1: to these guys. They were Navajo rangers on an area
Speaker 1: that covered parts of Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico, and
Speaker 1: they said that they had tracked a bigfoot out to
Speaker 1: an open area and the tracks just stopped. This is
Speaker 1: the same case with ranger Larsen that they found his tracks.
Speaker 1: He was walking to an open area and they just stopped.
Speaker 1: This is not the only missing for one one case
Speaker 1: like this, but I just wanted to highlight that to you.
Speaker 1: That's what's creeping this person out Yet and we put
Speaker 1: his logo up in the right hand corner here X
Speaker 1: zone missing fantastic.
Speaker 4: Creator beyond standard logic had happened to Eric. Particular attention
Speaker 4: was drawn to a story told by park employee Phil
Speaker 4: Taylor on the seventh day of the search. He recalled
Speaker 4: a similar case that occurred in January nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 4: also in the Badger Pass area. At that time, a
Speaker 4: skier from Sacramento who had set out on a solo
Speaker 4: trip went missing. His skis were found stuck in the
Speaker 4: snow at the start of the descent, but there was
Speaker 4: no trace of him beyond that point. His body was
Speaker 4: never found. The incident was filed away as an accident.
Speaker 4: Taylor admitted that he only remembered it after seeing how
Speaker 4: Larson's tracks disappeared so abruptly as if cut by a knife.
Speaker 4: On the ninth day, the search was called off. The
Speaker 4: official reason was the worsening weather conditions and the danger
Speaker 4: of avalanches in the southern direction. The temperature began to
Speaker 4: drop sharply, and the forecast was already predicting minus twenty
Speaker 4: degrees at night. The operation was moved to a monitoring phase.
Speaker 4: Eric's parents were told that there was still a chance
Speaker 4: he could have reached a shelter or temporary refuge. However,
Speaker 4: he was already unofficially presumed dead. His mother, Karen Larsen,
Speaker 4: refused to leave Yosemite and continued to search the area
Speaker 4: on her own until she became hypothermic two weeks later
Speaker 4: and was hospitalized. In the spring, when the snow began
Speaker 4: to melt, a second ground search was conducted. Surveyors and
Speaker 4: dog handlers re examined the area where the ranger had disappeared.
Speaker 4: This time they were interested in the point where the
Speaker 4: tracks ended under a layer of snow. They found dense
Speaker 4: grass cover with no cracks, burrows, or depressions. Spectral analysis
Speaker 4: of the snow and soil was conducted, but no abnormalities
Speaker 4: were detected. Eight months later, the case was officially closed
Speaker 4: as a disappearance under unclear circumstances. Larsen's service badge remained
Speaker 4: in the park's archives as a memorial exhibit. His family
Speaker 4: never received an explanation. None of the theories avalanche, sudden disorientation, fall,
Speaker 4: animal attack, or deliberate departure received any confirmation. No piece
Speaker 4: of equipment except for the radio, was found. Some former
Speaker 4: employees who left the service in the early two thousands
Speaker 4: later mentioned the case in private interviews. One of them,
Speaker 4: who wished to remain anonymous, said, such cases are not uncommon,
Speaker 4: but if you work in the park, you are taught
Speaker 4: not to ask questions that have no answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's let's pause right here before we
Speaker 1: get to Eric Stevenson from Acadia and uh, and let's
Speaker 1: talk about this one. Go for it.
Speaker 2: Well, unlike the first one, he was never found.
Speaker 1: So that's the tracks and the.
Speaker 3: Tracks there was no tracks in a route. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean that's another very strange. There's no explanation, and you know,
Speaker 3: and and again it's all this is happening in different national.
Speaker 1: Parks like yes, yes, most certainly, and is and is
Speaker 1: is inexplicable. It's happening on the East coast, the west coast.
Speaker 1: There there are certain areas in swaths that he calls
Speaker 1: clusters Dave pl Sarah in Montana the Crazy Mountains, they're
Speaker 1: called the Crazies. Actually, he's found some cases there that
Speaker 1: are really bizarre. Obviously, the Rockies, the Canadian Rockies. Obviously
Speaker 1: everybody knows Rocky Mountain National Park in Tennessee. Oh Jason Robbins,
Speaker 1: not tracks after Jason. I love Jason. He always texting
Speaker 1: when we're doing these kinds of shows. Please, Jason, if
Speaker 1: you're listening, please say hi to your mom and tell
Speaker 1: her we're thinking of her. Miss Terry. We love Miss
Speaker 1: Terry and always think about I think about Terry at
Speaker 1: least every other day. And so yeah, and also in
Speaker 1: the East, so Virginia. So I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: the name of the mountain range in North Carolina. But
Speaker 1: that whole area Rocky Mountain National Park, the LBL, which
Speaker 1: covers part of Kentucky and Tennis. See, this is not
Speaker 1: something that is only in Yosemite. Yosemite just happens to
Speaker 1: have the most. And there's one that Dave Polaides does
Speaker 1: and this is on Lake Michigan. And there's a young
Speaker 1: man that goes across country skiing and he doesn't return.
Speaker 1: So they call out authorities who are able to find
Speaker 1: where he launched from. They found his vehicle, they found
Speaker 1: the cross country ski tracks from his vehicle and tracked
Speaker 1: him all the way out on to frozen Lake Michigan.
Speaker 1: The problem is is that like Ranger Larsen, the tracks stop.
Speaker 1: He's skiing out onto the lake and the tracks stop.
Speaker 1: There's no u turn of either he in his ski
Speaker 1: boots or his surrels or his skis to go back
Speaker 1: to shoreline. This kid woke up in Pennsylvania, seven hundred
Speaker 1: miles away in a farmer's field, and he went to
Speaker 1: the farmhouse and knocked on the door and said, can
Speaker 1: I call my family? So that's just one of them,
Speaker 1: the other one. And we'll get this story from you,
Speaker 1: because David Polaid's will tell it better than we do.
Speaker 1: But it is a fire captain. To picture a fireman's
Speaker 1: ski trip. They're Toronto firemen, and there's a captain who
Speaker 1: leads his crew on a ski trip to Lake Placid
Speaker 1: in New York over the border. And as they're skiing
Speaker 1: and getting laid in the day, of course, there's always
Speaker 1: one person that has to go on one last run,
Speaker 1: and that was him. And he came down the trail
Speaker 1: and disappeared. Nobody saw him. Where is he? Where is he?
Speaker 1: They have had all of ski patrol, they had all
Speaker 1: the firemen up on the mountain. They had firemen from
Speaker 1: New York, they had firemen from Canada, they had sar
Speaker 1: they had ski patrol. Everybody looking for the fire captain
Speaker 1: on this mountain. You know where he woke up, folks.
Speaker 1: He woke up as a passenger in an eighteen wheeler
Speaker 1: outside of California.
Speaker 3: Wow, he was.
Speaker 1: He asked the trucker to drop him off at the
Speaker 1: airport in Sacramento. He still had his ski clothes and
Speaker 1: helmet on his ski pass but he happened to have
Speaker 1: had in his jacket his credit card and his license,
Speaker 1: and he bought a phone and he called his wife.
Speaker 1: How do you explain this? He didn't know where he was.
Speaker 1: There's very little on this and you can't find but
Speaker 1: the last thing he remembers, I was on the ski
Speaker 1: slope and then I'm in a truck out west.
Speaker 2: And how many years had elapsed?
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that much time. I don't
Speaker 1: know how much time elapsed. He had a haircut. That
Speaker 1: was the only thing that was different, as his hair
Speaker 1: was shorter, is what I heard. So I'll pot we'll
Speaker 1: get that episode and play it for you. Let's go
Speaker 1: through the comments. So are they multidimensional beings? You know,
Speaker 1: Julie is as much Julie's part of a Bigfoot group
Speaker 1: with doctor Semine Hind. My personal opinion is I believe
Speaker 1: some of them are, and I think some of them
Speaker 1: are not. And I think some of them have certain
Speaker 1: abilities and some of them don't. I have heard people
Speaker 1: say in a completely dark forest that the eyes glow,
Speaker 1: and that's something that we would think are physically impossible,
Speaker 1: meaning if your eyes were emitting light, you couldn't see
Speaker 1: through them. But it explains how big it can maneuver
Speaker 1: through the woods at very fast speeds and they can
Speaker 1: see where they're going. But I've heard a number of
Speaker 1: researchers say I saw eye glow, not eyes shine, Like
Speaker 1: when you see a raccoon by the side of the
Speaker 1: road with your headlights and you're in New Hampshire, I glow.
Speaker 1: So I think some are some aren't. Julie, you know,
Speaker 1: she's probably more knowledgeable than I. Some people say they
Speaker 1: can cloak themselves. There's a there's a video. There's a
Speaker 1: woman she's just passed. I believe her name was Barb Shoop,
Speaker 1: and she has a video of what looks like a
Speaker 1: child bigfoot hiding behind a tree and you can see
Speaker 1: it and it takes off and runs and when it runs,
Speaker 1: it looks like it turns clear. It's really really we
Speaker 1: you could see a dark little something and what she
Speaker 1: saw was black. But on video it looks like it.
Speaker 1: It changes, it looks clear when it because it Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that if you want to see that one is
Speaker 1: called a flash of beauty. And there's a guy in there.
Speaker 1: He's a I thought he was Native American, Actually he's not.
Speaker 1: His name is rich Jermau, and he was a police officer.
Speaker 1: He was a police officer at the local level, at
Speaker 1: the county level. He was a police officer in the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps, and he was a police officer at the
Speaker 1: federal level. And the Bigfoot experiences that he had first
Speaker 1: in his patrol car watching people at a swimming hole
Speaker 1: and then walk across the hall. They had no idea
Speaker 1: that this thing is twenty yards away watching them at
Speaker 1: a little swimming code that you can see from the road,
Speaker 1: and then it turned around and just walked across the road.
Speaker 1: He saw it in his car almost at a heart attack.
Speaker 3: Wow, so.
Speaker 1: Very very if I could get Rich on and not
Speaker 1: talk like global destruction or some of the other crazy things,
Speaker 1: because I've had a phone call with Rich. I actually
Speaker 1: got a hold of him because Matt's like, look, dude,
Speaker 1: this guy is you know, like there are people their
Speaker 1: online behavior can be a little off putting. Let's just
Speaker 1: put it to you that way, right. But Rich I've
Speaker 1: spoke with him on the phone about because I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Karen Reid. So this is picture me
Speaker 1: the first week or two that I was into Karen Reid,
Speaker 1: and I became aware of it and talked him about
Speaker 1: how you can use your investigative skills. Some of the
Speaker 1: things that he saw with Bigfoot would pretty mind blowing.
Speaker 1: But Scott tracks just ending in the creature disappearing only
Speaker 1: makes sense if the creature slipped from the third dimension
Speaker 1: what I believe most used multi dimension. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: quite possible he went to another dimension or UFO abducted him.
Speaker 1: There's a movie and I'm gonna tell you guys about
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put in the chat here. It's called Missing
Speaker 1: for one one the UFO Connection, And I believe this
Speaker 1: is on tub and you can watch it for free again.
Speaker 1: David Polaidi's former San Jose detective. If you remember the
Speaker 1: Polyclass case, the missing teenage girl from Northern California poly
Speaker 1: Class with a K. David was in on that investigation,
Speaker 1: worked side by side with the FBI on that investigation
Speaker 1: before he retired, and he discovered that, Hey, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people who go missing in our national parks. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about, that place standing Stones.
Speaker 1: I've seen stuff. That place creeps me out out seeing
Speaker 1: it on TV. Forget about going there. Yes, that's what Julie.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this one, Jules, I gonna have
Speaker 1: to find out. The Appalation Trail we got. We got
Speaker 1: stuff from Appalation Trail for you. We got more stuff
Speaker 1: from Appllation Trail. I think her name was Gertrude Largay.
Speaker 1: I she she's found it that, you know. The Navy
Speaker 1: has that seer camp, that survival camp where they do
Speaker 1: the training like I did in Washington. The Navy Survival
Speaker 1: School is in like New Hampshire, Vermont, or Maine. It's
Speaker 1: and this lady who was on the trail for months
Speaker 1: with her husband bringing her food every three days, two days,
Speaker 1: food and supplies, they meet up. He went way off
Speaker 1: the trail and ended up dead in the on the
Speaker 1: property of the Navy Survival School, the Navy Stare School,
Speaker 1: which if somebody wants to google it, the Navy Sare School.
Speaker 1: It's either in Maine.
Speaker 2: I think she whethers Colleen is saying in Maine.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you? Uh Scott, Yes, yes, that's what. This
Speaker 1: is the reason why I like the Fifth Dimension from
Speaker 1: the nineteen sixties, one of my favorite singing groups. She
Speaker 1: worked for an I worked with a Native American tribe
Speaker 1: for years. A lot of things that that they are
Speaker 1: not as they seem absolutely, Thomas. Uh, if you guys want,
Speaker 1: we could watch one more. We could watch the male
Speaker 1: or the female one. What do you think? Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: watch one final one and then we'll call it a night.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Female. Oh no, the next one is Peterson, Yeah, which.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I kind of like the female. I like the story,
Speaker 3: but you know, okay, so here's one thing. Can I
Speaker 3: just say, all right, so when I think of the
Speaker 3: Sarah Levin, the only thing with that one to me
Speaker 3: feels more like UFO wish. And I'll tell you why,
Speaker 3: because her coming back, like I feel like a bigfoot
Speaker 3: is not for some If a big foot takes a human,
Speaker 3: they're gonna be you know, running through the woods like
Speaker 3: you're saying, nothing matched, Like her clothes was fine like
Speaker 3: that kind of that doesn't feel like her story doesn't
Speaker 3: feel like a bigfoot where who knows they're not gonna
Speaker 3: take care of a woman and that kind of thing.
Speaker 3: As where as a UFO you can kind of see
Speaker 3: that maybe time stops or I don't know, but they
Speaker 3: feel different even though they were in the same you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, like in the same park where
Speaker 3: they were where they went missing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that to me, I think
Speaker 1: it's that's a UFO one. There are some where it
Speaker 1: looks like a portal and with the portal ones which
Speaker 1: I think where somebody walked in a portal opened up,
Speaker 1: they walked into it and never came out. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: are some. And I want to talk about what Scott
Speaker 1: says from a dimension standpoint, because I'm going to add
Speaker 1: a little fuel to the fire that Scott spring up
Speaker 1: about dimensions and it's this Dave Polis has illuminated that
Speaker 1: searchers and we're talking sar teams now people that and
Speaker 1: I've seen them at the park that I go to
Speaker 1: they train. Some of them are older than us. They
Speaker 1: are very in shape. And this is very scary, Teresa,
Speaker 1: this is very scary. So I don't want to minimize
Speaker 1: this in any way, but I want to. I want to.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about what Scott's saying. Here. There
Speaker 1: are sar teams that have been walking on an area,
Speaker 1: going through the rids that have been set up for them,
Speaker 1: and say, I heard a voice saying, help me, help me.
Speaker 1: I'm right here, and they're looking and it's in an
Speaker 1: open area and they can't see anybody. There is more
Speaker 1: than one story like that of searchers saying I hear him,
Speaker 1: I hear him saying it. It sounds like a male
Speaker 1: voice about that age or you know, or female voice,
Speaker 1: and I can't see anything. And then another searcher goes
Speaker 1: out there and they go, I heard it too, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm right here. So that I think could be the
Speaker 1: dimensional Hi, how are you seriously? I think that could
Speaker 1: be the dimensional situation that you're talking about, Scott. I
Speaker 1: think some of the other ones are UFO, and I
Speaker 1: think some of them are portal where people walk in
Speaker 1: and they're never seeing it again. We could talk about
Speaker 1: Jared Ada Darrow. I know a lot of I mean,
Speaker 1: it's scary, this is scary, but we're doing it together
Speaker 1: and we're having fun. So all right, let's watch one
Speaker 1: more and we'll watch the female one, and then we'll
Speaker 1: call it a night, because we're gonna do more of
Speaker 1: these episodes because this is great stuff from David Plaidi's
Speaker 1: and X Zone. So let's let's let's get on this.
Speaker 3: Yes, so this is Sarah Elizabeth Newton.
Speaker 1: Yep, let me scroll forward.
Speaker 2: See, I have my notes.
Speaker 1: You know what, you might increase your salary.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that one is more intriguing, and I have some
Speaker 2: notes on why Yep.
Speaker 1: This one. Let's just get the end of this one,
Speaker 1: just to really scare you right.
Speaker 4: Here, leaving no traces and no trail. It remains unknown
Speaker 4: what exactly Eric Peterson saw on the trail that July day.
Speaker 4: Were they ordinary tourists, a mysterious mental state, or something
Speaker 4: else entirely, But since then, most rangers working in those
Speaker 4: areas have adhered to one simple rule. If you see
Speaker 4: a figure standing silently at the edge, don't approach.
Speaker 1: Ever.
Speaker 4: Sarah Elizabeth Newton, a thirty year old National Park Service employee,
Speaker 4: was considered one of the most reliable and disciplined rangers
Speaker 4: assigned to the eastern part of the Great Smoky Mountains
Speaker 4: National Park. A native of Knoxville, Tennessee, she had been
Speaker 4: working in the park for six years, patrolling remote areas
Speaker 4: along gravel forest roads, checking trails, observing wildlife, and reporting
Speaker 4: fire hazards. She was known as someone who never deviated
Speaker 4: from her schedule, never ignored her radio, and indeed never
Speaker 4: abandoned her equipment without reason. That is what made her
Speaker 4: disappearance in October nineteen ninety four so alarmed. On Saturday,
Speaker 4: October ninth, Sarah set out on a solo patrol along
Speaker 4: Indian Gap Road. This old country road runs through a
Speaker 4: densely wooded area between Newfoun Gap and Cherokee Orchard. She
Speaker 4: was driving a green Ford Bronco Service Jeep with department
Speaker 4: license plates and equipment inside. Radio contact was maintained until
Speaker 4: three p M. She checked in twice, reporting that everything
Speaker 4: was fine. The last message came in at three fourteen PM.
Speaker 4: Sarah mentioned that she had turned onto a side road
Speaker 4: to check an old parking lot by a creek. When
Speaker 4: she didn't report in by four thirty p m, dispatch
Speaker 4: didn't raise the alarm at first. There had been delays
Speaker 4: due to poor signal reception in the past, but by
Speaker 4: six p M, when Sarah had not returned to base
Speaker 4: and was not responding, to repeated calls. Her partner on duty,
Speaker 4: Douglas Lane, began his own search along the presumed patrol route.
Speaker 4: At around seven p m. He found the service jeep
Speaker 4: on an unnamed forest road in an area known locally
Speaker 4: as Colville Ridge, a narrow, winding road with dense vegetation
Speaker 4: and steep slopes on both sides. The car was parked
Speaker 4: at a bend. The headlights were on and the engine
Speaker 4: was running. The driver's door was ajar. Neither Sarah nor
Speaker 4: any signs of her presence were to be found anywhere.
Speaker 4: There were no signs of an accident, a struggle, or
Speaker 4: tire tracks from other vehicles, or footprints except those left
Speaker 4: by the SUV's tires. Inside, the duty log was open
Speaker 4: and the radio was in place and working. Sarah's shoes, documents, cap,
Speaker 4: and jacket were all in the car. The trunk was
Speaker 4: closed and contained a first aid kit, a supply of water,
Speaker 4: and a set of tow ropes. A call to the
Speaker 4: Park Service prompted the emergency deployment of a search party.
Speaker 4: Within forty minutes. The first wave of rangers arrived at
Speaker 4: the scene at seven forty pm with flashlights and dogs. Strangely,
Speaker 4: the dogs refused to follow the trail from the car.
Speaker 4: They sniffed the seat and the ground near the doors,
Speaker 4: but did not detect any scent. That night, a light
Speaker 4: breeze blew with no precipitation, and the temperature was around
Speaker 4: fifty degrees fahrenheit. A search of the surrounding area yielded nothing.
Speaker 4: Sarah seemed to have vanished into thin air. She didn't
Speaker 4: even leave a footprint. The next morning, air support and
Speaker 4: volunteers joined the operation. They combed more than five square
Speaker 4: miles in a radius from the point where the jeep
Speaker 4: was found. No signal, no clothing, no scraps of fabric,
Speaker 4: no blood, no hair. There were no traces of the
Speaker 4: missing woman in the ditch, the stream, or the bushes.
Speaker 4: One of the investigators said in his report, we found
Speaker 4: no evidence that she left the car on foot. It
Speaker 4: was precisely this inability to reconstruct the last seconds of
Speaker 4: her presence that gave rise not just to alarm within
Speaker 4: the team, but also a strange, oppressive feeling. The jeep
Speaker 4: was running as if she had stepped out for a
Speaker 4: second and never returned. But then where could she have
Speaker 4: gone in a matter of seconds without leaving even a
Speaker 4: footprint on the damp, so in the days that followed,
Speaker 4: the area around Colville Ridge turned into a coordination camp.
Speaker 4: Dog handlers, rangers, military volunteers, and firefighters were all working there.
Speaker 4: A helicopter flew along the forest border from Newfound Gap
Speaker 4: to try Mountain Ridge, circling along the ridge, but even
Speaker 4: from the air, the area showed nothing suspicious. No broken trees,
Speaker 4: no traces of a fire, no bright spots of clothing.
Speaker 4: Sarah disappeared literally dozens of steps from the car, which
Speaker 4: was running and lit in the middle of the road
Speaker 4: where even at noon a rare animal would dare to approach.
Speaker 4: Her brother, Jeremy Newton, a former marine, arrived that evening
Speaker 4: and immediately joined the search. He claimed to know Sarah's
Speaker 4: habits well and did not believe it was an accident.
Speaker 4: He followed the streams, descended into the lowlands, climbed along
Speaker 4: the cliff line, anywhere where it would be possible to
Speaker 4: slip or hide, even by accident. He was the first
Speaker 4: to notice two strange details that were not included in
Speaker 4: the official report. First, about one hundred and ninety feet
Speaker 4: from the car, he found an area with a long
Speaker 4: indentation in the grass, as if someone had dragged a long,
Speaker 4: heavy object like a backpack or a body across the ground.
Speaker 4: But this area began and ended in the woods with
Speaker 4: no clear traces. Photographs were taken, but they were not
Speaker 4: included in the case file. Secondly, he noticed that one
Speaker 4: of the plastic water bottles from the car had been
Speaker 4: cut on the side, as if with a knife. No
Speaker 4: fingerprints were found on it. By the eleventh day of
Speaker 4: the search, the area was cordoned off. The official version
Speaker 4: possible criminal involvement or a security threat. In an unofficial correspondence,
Speaker 4: one of the investigators wrote, the area is like a trap.
Speaker 4: Everything leads back to the car, but nothing leads away
Speaker 4: from it. Three weeks after her disappearance, three miles to
Speaker 4: the south, a group of local hunters discovered a strange
Speaker 4: trail in the damp earth near a dry creek bed.
Speaker 4: There was a single distinct footprint, a woman's boot, the
Speaker 4: same size as the one Sarah wore. The problem was
Speaker 4: that the boot was turned tow down on the slope
Speaker 4: toward the stream, and there were no second prints or
Speaker 4: skid marks nearby. It was as if she had been
Speaker 4: standing on the edge and had disappeared without taking a
Speaker 4: second step. After that, the investigation had no working hypotheses,
Speaker 4: left the body, close weapon. Everything was gone. No animal attack,
Speaker 4: no accident, no voluntary departure. Everything remained in place except
Speaker 4: the person. A year later, in November nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 4: one of the senior rangers, William Crawford, who had retired,
Speaker 4: gave an anonymous interview to a local radio host. He
Speaker 4: claimed that there had been three reported disappearances in the
Speaker 4: Colville Ridge area over the past thirty years. One was
Speaker 4: a boy from the camp in the nineteen seventies, the
Speaker 4: second was a fisherman in the early nineteen teen eighties.
Speaker 4: None of them were ever found. He also said that
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety one, five dead raccoons were found two
Speaker 4: miles east of this area, lying within a fifty foot radius,
Speaker 4: with no visible injuries. It was decided at the time
Speaker 4: that they had been poisoned, but veterinary analysis showed no toxins.
Speaker 4: Their lungs were as if they had collapsed, as if
Speaker 4: after a sudden decompression. No one directly linked this episode
Speaker 4: to the disappearances, but it was mentioned in official reports.
Speaker 4: Sarah was never found, neither her body nor her personal belongings,
Speaker 4: nor her bones, nor her clothes appeared a year later
Speaker 4: or ten years later. Her case remains open to this day,
Speaker 4: and in the official archives of the Great Smoky Mountains
Speaker 4: National Park Rangers there is a separate note on her
Speaker 4: file no physical explanation for her disappearance. To this day,
Speaker 4: new recruits going out on patrol in the area are
Speaker 4: instructed to maintain radio contact every fifteen minutes, do not
Speaker 4: stop the car without a reason, and always go out
Speaker 4: on patrol and pairs. Sarah Newton is not just a
Speaker 4: missing employee. Her case is the line beyond which even
Speaker 4: experienced rangers stop making logical conclusions. If you found this interesting,
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Speaker 4: Right in the comments, which story you find the most
Speaker 4: mysterious and what you think is happening in these places?
Speaker 4: Take care of yourselves and we look forward to seeing
Speaker 4: you in our subsequent investigations.
Speaker 1: Very very well done, Very well done by here. He
Speaker 1: is right here X Zone again, he's in the show notes.
Speaker 1: We put him in there. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: that all content creators get credit for what they do.
Speaker 1: We're not sealing his work. We are promoting his work,
Speaker 1: just like we're going to do with micro dots, and
Speaker 1: we have done with other creators as well that appear
Speaker 1: on the show. I did reach out to him or
Speaker 1: her via email because that I believe is Ai that
Speaker 1: is reading that there and go ahead and take it
Speaker 1: away via What are you thinking on this case?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm glad that they now go out
Speaker 3: in pairs because it'll probably be very strange to capture
Speaker 3: two people at the same time whatever, or you know,
Speaker 3: if one falls or whatever the story is. So I'm
Speaker 3: glad that they've taken precautions so that moving forward, this
Speaker 3: doesn't happen hopefully. But yeah, there's no physical explanation the
Speaker 3: car was, she exited the vehicle.
Speaker 2: There's no foot prints, right, they just bigfoot.
Speaker 1: I mean, if bigfoot walks in the side of that vehicle,
Speaker 1: you're going to see it. I mean, you're there right.
Speaker 1: You know. They're going to leave a very deep impression,
Speaker 1: which is why you have doctor Jeff Meldrum with three
Speaker 1: hundred plus foot casts, and you have researcher named Cliff
Speaker 1: Barrickman has three hundred plus foot casts that the people
Speaker 1: have sent them please continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's just.
Speaker 3: Just another you know, the jeep was left running. I
Speaker 3: mean she obviously wasn't in I mean whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean she yeah, whatever took her because they found
Speaker 1: the one bootprint and then it was gone. You know,
Speaker 1: there's nothing. So I don't know how she got from
Speaker 1: the vehicle to where that that bootprint was that was
Speaker 1: by her, because I mean, unless they know that she
Speaker 1: was wearing host service boots. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: people and this happens in the military too. If I
Speaker 1: took you in the squadron, I could show you twenty
Speaker 1: different kinds of boots that people are wearing that are
Speaker 1: authorized at are the right color. So she may have
Speaker 1: gone out and bought her own boots. Was that her
Speaker 1: boot We don't know if that was her boot because
Speaker 1: they they were indicating, at least in his narrative, that
Speaker 1: they should have seen her bootprint outside the vehicle walking
Speaker 1: away from the vehicle. The other thing, that gun will
Speaker 1: be found one hundred years from now. That radio that
Speaker 1: like the Motorola radio in that casing, it won't work,
Speaker 1: that'll be And now here's Harah, Sarah, what are you
Speaker 1: doing here? What do you got to say? Harrah will
Speaker 1: be found one hundred years from now, so a lot
Speaker 1: of those materials, the boots would be found dozens of
Speaker 1: years from now. So yeah, I I Haarah, unless you
Speaker 1: have about missing for one one because I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: If I'm out in the woods and I see you,
Speaker 1: I'm running the other way because I feel like something
Speaker 1: bad is about to happen. That's all I got to say. Yes, so,
Speaker 1: and what you know, what Jules is here saying is
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't matter, meaning there have been some that
Speaker 1: have been caught in pairs. There's the Dilatov Pass thing
Speaker 1: in Russia that really freaks me out. And I think
Speaker 1: the de Latov Pass of what happened in Russia in
Speaker 1: the sixties. I literally believe that was a yetti that
Speaker 1: attacked those scientists in because the way that they left
Speaker 1: their tents in a hurry looked like something scared to
Speaker 1: ship out of them and they left. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: Standingstone said here The federal parks and state parks are
Speaker 1: tight lipped on all that goes on and claim to
Speaker 1: keep no records and if you foia, they will break
Speaker 1: your bank. So David Polaides will tell you about he
Speaker 1: has gotten some documents even from yusemne uh. There's the
Speaker 1: Stacey Eiras case that we will cover on here. And
Speaker 1: they literally called Dave and said, you will never ever
Speaker 1: get the Stacey Aras file. I know you foyed for it.
Speaker 1: I'm here. This guy called Dave Poliiti's and said, why
Speaker 1: do you want that? He's like, it's none of your business.
Speaker 1: Why I want it? I want it, And he said
Speaker 1: you're never going to get it. You're never going to
Speaker 1: get the Stacy Erra's case. Stacy Arras to and I'll
Speaker 1: give him. I want Dave to tell you the story.
Speaker 1: But essentially, she went on a horseback trip. So they
Speaker 1: went to an outfitter there with a group that won
Speaker 1: the horseback trip. They stopped at an area where there
Speaker 1: was a cabin and all that neat stuff to take
Speaker 1: a break. Her dad saw her and there was this
Speaker 1: seventy year old man that was on the trip. She
Speaker 1: asked him to stop and pose for some photos. She
Speaker 1: took some photos of him. She walked down a very
Speaker 1: shallow trail. There was a lake there. Everybody could see
Speaker 1: the lake. She was gone. She was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: Fourteen years old. They have never found Stacy Erris. They
Speaker 1: found the lens cap to her camera. Nothing else of
Speaker 1: Dacy was found. They cannot understand how, they cannot understand
Speaker 1: how nothing that was on her, none of her backpack,
Speaker 1: nothing of her was found, and they won't talk. And
Speaker 1: and the fact that the park says they won't release
Speaker 1: that case. It's still an ongoing investigation. Where have we
Speaker 1: heard that before? Guys, It's really really frightening and scary.
Speaker 1: So I'm my okay. The other the co creator of
Speaker 1: Calling All Beings, Nathan just came back from like Glacier
Speaker 1: National Park, Yellowstone. I mean he went to three or
Speaker 1: four parks, including he went to see the famed professor
Speaker 1: from Montana Tech, doctor Michael Masters, and had a barbecue
Speaker 1: at his house. Brought his children and his wife over
Speaker 1: there for a barbecue when they were in Montana, and
Speaker 1: he went to I can't, I literally can't tell you
Speaker 1: all the parks he went to. He sent me photos
Speaker 1: there amazing what and a video? Yeah, I got it
Speaker 1: last night. This is just last night. I talked to
Speaker 1: Nathan for the first time in weeks. But it was
Speaker 1: a two week west Coud. They drove over twenty two
Speaker 1: hundred miles. Oh wow, and that's from landing at Denver.
Speaker 1: They drove twenty two hundred miles after landing in Denver
Speaker 1: and then going to all these different national parks. I'm like,
Speaker 1: thank god, you're okay. He you know, he said they
Speaker 1: weren't crazy about it. His kids are seventeen and fifteen,
Speaker 1: but he thought about it and basically kept them in
Speaker 1: his sights. So what does she say, I don't think
Speaker 1: I like this stuff too scared for me? Yes, Teresa,
Speaker 1: it is scary. I'm not going to try to You know,
Speaker 1: why are park officials covered well? Because this is a
Speaker 1: business and you have people like me who are an
Speaker 1: avid hiker. I mean, anybody that knows me will tell you.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing to do when I'm off duty is
Speaker 1: go hiking. And do you think I'm thinking about this now? Yes?
Speaker 1: I am. I do think about this now, and I
Speaker 1: worry about it. You know, I've talked to my family
Speaker 1: and my wife about this. If we go hiking, when
Speaker 1: are we gonna you know, we gotta be, you know,
Speaker 1: we gotta he can't be out of my sight. What
Speaker 1: David Polaiti says is as simple things like this, because
Speaker 1: he doesn't tell people don't not go to national parks
Speaker 1: because they're the most amazing thing. There's a new series
Speaker 1: called with Can you look that up real quick? With
Speaker 1: Eric Bana? Is it Untamed? Untamed is a new series
Speaker 1: on Netflix with Eric Bona. It's about a four or
Speaker 1: five part limited series. You will love it. It's fascinating.
Speaker 1: I have never been to Yosemite. I'm only seeing it
Speaker 1: on on film now. It is striking. I mean literally
Speaker 1: when you see the forest and the falls and Elkan
Speaker 1: and just you know, the valley. When you see Yosemite,
Speaker 1: it's striking. There's nothing like it. Nothing we're going to
Speaker 1: see back East and back East is beautiful. I'm from
Speaker 1: back East. I'm from three hours from you know, from Denham.
Speaker 1: I love the Northeast woods, but this is really really stunning.
Speaker 1: Everything is just bigger and grander. But what Dave Polaidi says,
Speaker 1: if you're going to go out in the woods, carry
Speaker 1: bear spray. Always have kans of bear spray if there's
Speaker 1: any chance that you're going to see even a black bear.
Speaker 1: And the bears that you would encounter in Maine and
Speaker 1: New Hampshire are not aggressive like they are out west,
Speaker 1: but you carry bear spray. You always carry a firearm.
Speaker 1: You always carry a personal locator beacon. This is a
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars item on Amazon. It hooks up to
Speaker 1: your vest or your backpack, the straps on your backpack
Speaker 1: and if you press that sir, it goes up to
Speaker 1: a satellite and SAR knows where to come and find
Speaker 1: you if you're injured. You hurt your leg, you tripped
Speaker 1: and fell, and Dave did to have that happen. Dave
Speaker 1: broke his leg on a hike one time with camera equipment,
Speaker 1: broke his leg. But you have that SAR beacon. You
Speaker 1: could buy a satellite phone and you don't need to
Speaker 1: purchase a bunch of minutes. It's an emergency device that
Speaker 1: you can use if you've got to get a hold,
Speaker 1: so you can have sat phone, backup batteries, firearm, bare spray,
Speaker 1: personal locator beacon, And don't hike alone. Don't go alone.
Speaker 1: Now the place I'm going, I'm going to a park.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's like five miles fenced in. But
Speaker 1: it's not like being on there Colorado Trails that you
Speaker 1: could have this happened. You could you could get yourself
Speaker 1: in lots and lots of trouble up on the mountain
Speaker 1: near Pike's Beak. They're a big foot up there. There's
Speaker 1: you know, there are wild animals up there, there's cougar
Speaker 1: up there. You need you need, you need to have
Speaker 1: protection for that. And you need to tell people when
Speaker 1: you're leaving, where you're leaving from, where you're coming back.
Speaker 1: And extra cell phone batteries because all of our phones
Speaker 1: now have a set an emergency satellite capability, so that
Speaker 1: personal locator beacon is going to do. Your cell phone's
Speaker 1: going to do what that's going to do. But am
Speaker 1: I going to rely on that? No, I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: going to have multiple things. Compass, you know, basic directions,
Speaker 1: how to get back to your car. Make sure you
Speaker 1: have the coordinates. You program in the coordinates where you
Speaker 1: left the car so that way you can navigate back
Speaker 1: to the car. Yes, you know, simple stuff. Have is
Speaker 1: there people that have reported to Dave Polaiiti's I sat
Speaker 1: there and looked at my compass and the needle was
Speaker 1: doing this. Yes, that'll happen. That That's how I've heard
Speaker 1: of that happening. So okay, well have a GPS or
Speaker 1: I've maps on my phone and if I've mapped on
Speaker 1: my phone and that phone is charged up. I don't
Speaker 1: need it turned on while I'm out while I'm out
Speaker 1: in the forest, so I turned the phone on and
Speaker 1: says your car's parked here, okay, and then you start
Speaker 1: heading for the car. Do not wear earbuds and listen
Speaker 1: to music and podcasts and US media when you're in
Speaker 1: the woods, because if you do that, you can't hear
Speaker 1: if a predator is tracking you. So you want to
Speaker 1: use these, You want to use this, and you want
Speaker 1: to use this. So if you take that away and
Speaker 1: I'm listening to music, well now I could be tracked
Speaker 1: by a predator. So just all those things. And let's
Speaker 1: face it, folks, tens of thousands of people go to
Speaker 1: these parks every year like Nathan just did, and everything's okay,
Speaker 1: but you can get into trouble. So just use precautions
Speaker 1: so that you're not alone. One other thing, one of
Speaker 1: my flight crew guys when I was in the Air Force,
Speaker 1: I was a flight engineer and this guy was an
Speaker 1: Electronic warfare officer, which is basically a navigator who gets
Speaker 1: trained in some different stuff on aircraft. He is hiking
Speaker 1: the Pacific coast trail right now. I believe he is alone.
Speaker 1: He is a wonderful, smart human being named Mike Manion.
Speaker 1: And when he finishes, he is on day ninety probably
Speaker 1: ninety three of his truck right now. Pacific Coast Trail. Literally,
Speaker 1: this thing goes from San Diego to the border of
Speaker 1: US and Canada up near Vancouver. That's how long this
Speaker 1: trail is. Mike is on that trail. I don't know
Speaker 1: how far he's going. He's gonna come on calling all
Speaker 1: beings and tells if he tells me no. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna tell me no because we flew together, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna tell me yes. I sent him a message today.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's not checking Facebook every day. But Mike Manion.
Speaker 1: Let me see if I can find him real quick.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a great guy. Uh, and he is.
Speaker 1: I just want to go to his Let me see
Speaker 1: there he is Manions on the move. Go to his profile.
Speaker 1: There we go. What is this? This gentleman right here?
Speaker 1: I forgot hesh. Believe me, it's not easy, folks. If
Speaker 1: I had a producer, I mean, I could look so cool.
Speaker 1: Window there is Manions on the move. Okay, and this
Speaker 1: is this is Mike here and you can kind of
Speaker 1: get an idea of what he's what he's doing.
Speaker 2: So beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. And he sent us a thing the other day.
Speaker 1: He showed he's a very eclectic guy. When he retired
Speaker 1: from the Air Force, I think he retires a colonel.
Speaker 1: He bought like a he bought like a farmhouse in
Speaker 1: like the Tuscany region of Italy. He's like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: here's my new pad. I mean, he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Mike is. Mike is just really cool. Wow. Yeah. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could tell it's a little dryer up there in
Speaker 1: California where he's at. But Mike is the kind of
Speaker 1: guy I guarantee you on knowing remembering him from active duty,
Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy. He's going to have everything
Speaker 1: that that he needs that one should have for a
Speaker 1: trip like this. He's just he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: So hopefully we're going to get him. Oh this is
Speaker 1: this is really stunning. Uh, I don't know what sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred means. That's look at that lake.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so i'd like to hear I'm I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be surprised if he's heard Bigfoot howls. Look at
Speaker 1: those flowers. Wow. Yeah, and see if we can get
Speaker 1: him to tell what he experienced up there on the trail.
Speaker 1: This was day eighty six, twenty six July. He's just
Speaker 1: he's a really there he is, and that's Mike. He
Speaker 1: did not have that big He looked very clean shaven.
Speaker 1: This guy looked Air Force officer all the way when
Speaker 1: I served with him. But you know, he's kind of
Speaker 1: get an idea there, so yeah, that'll be really cool anyway.
Speaker 1: All right, it is time to get out of here.
Speaker 1: We have We've done enough for tonight. It was awesome,
Speaker 1: I know, right, this is just amazing. Right. These looked
Speaker 1: like professional photographs. Let me get back back up with
Speaker 1: you here. Thank you everybody. Yes, what a fun night.
Speaker 1: I hope you and enjoyed it, and I hope let
Speaker 1: us know in the comments if you'd like to do
Speaker 1: more of these. I'd like to do more. They are scary.
Speaker 1: Take a solar chart, Thank you, Val. Hellah see, leave
Speaker 1: it to the attorney to make sure you are thank you, Val.
Speaker 1: Leave it to a bear spray. Absolutely. I think I'll
Speaker 1: stick to the beach. Yes, you know, you know, and
Speaker 1: you say that, Malcolm Jamal Warner just went swimming. Where
Speaker 1: was that in the Bahama? In the Bahamas? Malcolm think? So?
Speaker 1: Was it the Bahamas? Malcolm Jamar Wanner just when swimming
Speaker 1: got carried out to see I have been drug out
Speaker 1: in at Laguna Beach. I was out there. I was
Speaker 1: with my wife, my friend from high school and his
Speaker 1: wife and they're like, oh, you know back home they
Speaker 1: call me Dave. They're like, hey, you want to You're
Speaker 1: gonna go out in the way. I mean it was cold.
Speaker 1: I mean the water in California, if you've been in
Speaker 1: the beach in California is cold and in the winter
Speaker 1: it's real cold. Like, hey, Dave, you I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll jump in the water. I mean, just having shorts on.
Speaker 1: Was it was tricky that day after having lunch, I
Speaker 1: jumped in the water and within a minute a minute
Speaker 1: I felt I was getting carried out to see within
Speaker 1: a minute and I was swimming or I was swimming
Speaker 1: from my life to get back to shore. So now
Speaker 1: on the shore, my friend Jimmy's there, his wife's Sarah,
Speaker 1: my wife's and they're like oh and they're waving everything
Speaker 1: good and and I'm swimming like there's they don't know
Speaker 1: how how hard I'm swimming to get to shore, and
Speaker 1: in a in a I'm I'm basically in a panic,
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, But I made it,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a I'm a Oh it's Stever's
Speaker 1: dad was a cop. Thank you very much, Diane for
Speaker 1: contributing that, because now we know so she should have
Speaker 1: been able to ask somebody. Thank you. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: liked it. Rocker Chick and so. Yeah. So you can
Speaker 1: get into trouble even on the beach. You can get
Speaker 1: in the water. There's an MMA fighter named Diego Brandall,
Speaker 1: and he once told me he went in Brazil, he
Speaker 1: got drug out, he got drug out further than from
Speaker 1: what it uh. He told me he got he got
Speaker 1: sucked out to see further than what he thought. And
Speaker 1: he said, you know what, I'm gonna save my I'm
Speaker 1: gonna save my life. Right now. My dad's on the beach.
Speaker 1: I think his dad didn't swim and and he swam
Speaker 1: his ass and and made it to shore. And it's
Speaker 1: it's just one of those things, man, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: my my situation was not as dire, but I know
Speaker 1: I felt myself getting sucked out and I swam everything
Speaker 1: I was worth to get to shore. I'm a better
Speaker 1: swimmer now than I was then, but you know, trying
Speaker 1: to show off and get in the water when it
Speaker 1: was just to show I could get in the cold water.
Speaker 1: But look, watch what the tide is doing. Is the
Speaker 1: tide coming in? Is the tide going out? And I
Speaker 1: didn't have a booie. I swim with a swim booe now,
Speaker 1: so I can always grab that booey if I get
Speaker 1: in trouble, and in most cases, you know, I'll be okay.
Speaker 1: I didn't none of those things. The tide was going out.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have even gotten the water because the tide
Speaker 1: is going out, so you can get in trouble anyway.
Speaker 1: But anyway, final words, Jeff fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and now that I you know, now, I
Speaker 3: want everybody to hear about Eric Peterson too, of course,
Speaker 3: so we'll do that one.
Speaker 2: So we'll do that one because that one. Yeah, that
Speaker 2: one's cool too.
Speaker 1: They're shocking. We'll do Eric Peterson. We'll hit up some
Speaker 1: more next time, yeah, for sure. Shout out to Exon Missing,
Speaker 1: Shout out to David Plaidi's and missing for one one.
Speaker 1: It is amazing topic. So on, behalf of Boston, bea
Speaker 1: This DJ is saying peace out, one love, We will
Speaker 1: see you down the damn road.