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Speaker 3: Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports
Speaker 3: fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and today with me is
Speaker 3: Dave Stilba. Thanks for coming back, Dave, sure, thanks for
Speaker 3: not running away, walking away. I'm still around, still around.
Speaker 3: You're good to be able to good to be able
Speaker 3: to help. Right, You've got my boy Ray here anders
Speaker 3: all our social and our panel here. Hello, Ray, you
Speaker 3: actually watched the draft last night?
Speaker 2: I was working, so oh you had you had it on?
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, okay that's bits.
Speaker 3: And pieces, so already somebody on the internet, deal interweb,
Speaker 3: you know, on Facebook?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Are they become the smartest people in this world. And
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. They could be as smart as
Speaker 3: they want to be. That Our Bryant should have stayed
Speaker 3: the year. Okay, No, he's fine being fourteen in the lottery.
Speaker 4: He'll be fine. Yeah, he's gonna get his money. He'll
Speaker 4: get a good deal at a good place. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: he's gonna he kind of gets the clock started for
Speaker 4: his pro career to get to that like third year
Speaker 4: where the big contracts start to kick in.
Speaker 3: He would not have got any better than he is now,
Speaker 3: although maybe because you're a year older, right, if you're
Speaker 3: if you're if you're not getting any better every year,
Speaker 3: you're you're not getting any better, Yeah, which is the obvious.
Speaker 3: But of course he would have gotten better, but also
Speaker 3: his stock value would have probably stayed the same.
Speaker 4: You know, and they talk about drafting on potential and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. I mean, this is probably a perfect
Speaker 4: example that he did he ever start a game here?
Speaker 2: I don't maybe maybe maybe I don't.
Speaker 4: I mean I have to check him. Basically, he was
Speaker 4: not a starter, didn't play a lot of minutes, didn't
Speaker 4: score a lot of points. Yeah, but you know when
Speaker 4: you watch him physically, you go, yeah, he looks like
Speaker 4: he's going to be a really good player. But that's
Speaker 4: kind of I guess what the NBA is are looking
Speaker 4: at these days.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, we're gonna have something cued up
Speaker 3: here after the break, right yep. My question to coach
Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd about Caleb Love and I have another thought
Speaker 3: about that, so that but maybe while you're kind of
Speaker 3: listening to us Jibber Jabber, could you see if if
Speaker 3: Carter had a press converce today in San Antonio that
Speaker 3: might not happen till after today when they have everybody
Speaker 3: they drafted. But just in case, you know, he'll at
Speaker 3: the press coverage if Mede me or may not.
Speaker 2: But Dave, when did you learn that there was this thing?
Speaker 2: Was a two day thing?
Speaker 3: I knew that you did last night was the first time.
Speaker 3: I think they've never done it really, Yeah, because I
Speaker 3: had to ask Bruce, I said, I was expecting around
Speaker 3: two right away because it usually goes It goes real quick,
Speaker 3: and it's who's going to give a crap about two
Speaker 3: day's people?
Speaker 4: Well, it's just programming for ESPN. They need something, They
Speaker 4: need a lot of help.
Speaker 3: Have you seen all the criticism that they've received over
Speaker 3: last night that Colin Coward got drafted?
Speaker 2: Last night he did, yeah, what's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 2: The female host of the show, Colleen Andrews.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Cedric Cedric Coward and he says, oh, well,
Speaker 3: calling Coward and they didn't take it back.
Speaker 2: Everybody's continue to do it.
Speaker 3: And if you if you watch U or listen to
Speaker 3: or follow awful announcing that was okay. Hell, they could,
Speaker 3: they could have a whole book on me awful announcing.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 4: the whole NBA TV situation is kind of in flux
Speaker 4: right now. Who knows what's going to be what next
Speaker 4: year when the season comes back with you know, with
Speaker 4: Amazon coming on and Pete Talk and NBC coming back
Speaker 4: and a lot of these guys like Richard Jefferson. You know,
Speaker 4: I don't think is guaranteed to come back to that role.
Speaker 4: It's a pretty prime job, being the NBA Finals early
Speaker 4: on in your in your career. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 4: of course, all the you know, the tn T guys
Speaker 4: are moving over to ESPN, right so, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I didn't watch much of the coverage. I saw some
Speaker 4: here and there. I saw it kind of late in
Speaker 4: the first round after Carter had already been picked. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean it's live TV things people.
Speaker 2: Are And I don't blame her.
Speaker 3: It's just that, you know, people jump on any nowadays.
Speaker 3: You say anything badly, yeah or incorrect, we're gonna jump
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they looked they catch you. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: a high profile event. It's the biggest story of the night.
Speaker 4: And you know, this is kind of the end of
Speaker 4: the run for for ESPN this year.
Speaker 6: It was boring kind of speaking on that. There was
Speaker 6: a I forget which player it was. He was drafted
Speaker 6: by the Raptors. I think it was Colin Murray. Boyles
Speaker 6: looked like he was a bit upset that he was
Speaker 6: going to Toronto, and you know, it got me kind
Speaker 6: of thinking, like, how much do you think like money, like.
Speaker 7: Now with nil and stuff like that, is gonna like,
Speaker 7: you know, well.
Speaker 3: They're gonn It's gonna keep him in the in the
Speaker 3: league a little longer, there's no question, But it's not
Speaker 3: a whole lot of money. Like if you're at Arizona,
Speaker 3: you're gonna make two two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 3: and to me that's the world, right, But but to
Speaker 3: them it's you know, whatever. But there's a lot of
Speaker 3: dudes that aren't going to get drafted. I mean Nick
Speaker 3: Big for that two fifty Yeah, kind of like I
Speaker 3: would you know, So yeah, to your point, that's kind
Speaker 3: of where you were going to go with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the guys stayed because they knew
Speaker 4: they weren't going to get the money. They weren't going
Speaker 4: to get drafted. I should say, so they would, you know,
Speaker 4: like Caleb Blove, maybe he'll you know, maybe he'll get
Speaker 4: drafted tonight. But even so he's going to go in,
Speaker 4: you know, if not, he'll go in as a free agent.
Speaker 4: And maybe he was making more money here without question,
Speaker 4: you know, without question. You know, they say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: how valuable is a fifth year senior these days?
Speaker 3: I mean there's very few where in the NBA. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: not they're not. They haven't been, you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at the whole this was the youngest,
Speaker 4: second youngest draft class ever.
Speaker 3: Did you say that they're draft and they've always had
Speaker 3: draft on potential potential? Yeah, fifth year dudes, are you
Speaker 3: have to be really really good?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Look at the Carter the who is the and I
Speaker 3: should know this, uh, the guard from Florida.
Speaker 9: Clayton, Clayton, that's him.
Speaker 4: He made it.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 3: My point is he four years Yeah, four years and
Speaker 3: he's kind of a rare dude. And he's a fantastic player,
Speaker 3: but you know he's a rare.
Speaker 2: Dude of four years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he kind of burst onto the scene at least
Speaker 4: to me. I mean, I you know, as much as
Speaker 4: I watch. I mean, all of a sudden, there he
Speaker 4: was on you just weekend because you noticed him more.
Speaker 4: I'm sure he was having a nice career going in.
Speaker 2: But yeah, well you know where he started, wasn't he in?
Speaker 9: Was it?
Speaker 4: Iona?
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was Rick Patino.
Speaker 3: I think so you kind of you know, bet on yourself.
Speaker 3: How many times did you hear that last night? Well
Speaker 3: you kind of at the end. But there was a
Speaker 3: bunch of dudes who bet on themselves. The guy from
Speaker 3: Washington State went ahead, I think of Carter Bright.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he but he transferred somewhere else.
Speaker 3: He was he was at Eastern Washington, even in smaller
Speaker 3: school before that. Division three went to Eastern Washington and
Speaker 3: went to Washington State. I didn't really know of him
Speaker 3: because he's out of the pack twelve anymore, so I didn't.
Speaker 2: Know of him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, that really is the case. It seems
Speaker 4: like a lot of these guys have bounced around and
Speaker 4: they've kind of bied their time, and some of them
Speaker 4: have been around for four or five years, but rarely
Speaker 4: do they get picked. If they do, they'll wind up,
Speaker 4: you know, maybe in the second round and then decide
Speaker 4: going free agent after that. But you look at the list,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's all a bunch of eighteen and nineteen
Speaker 4: year olds basically after one year.
Speaker 3: Well, Dave, I think this is a good question for
Speaker 3: you and for my guy, right, because we're different generations.
Speaker 2: Are you to watch it religiously?
Speaker 3: A long time ago part of your age stopped became
Speaker 3: my job unless I knew about Arizona players going in,
Speaker 3: and I kind of stopped. I watched Golden State and
Speaker 3: see the roster. But other than that or Arizona's when
Speaker 3: you look at a roster, Dave, and you were watching
Speaker 3: some playoff stuff, how many of those dudes did you recognize?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Not very many honestly.
Speaker 4: Now. I mean even as you're watching the NBA in
Speaker 4: its current form, you know, maybe I know a few
Speaker 4: of the guys on each team, but there's a lot
Speaker 4: of players coming from you know, overseas or you know,
Speaker 4: just kind of drifting into the league.
Speaker 2: In fact, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I have you google who the guard from Okay See
Speaker 3: was and where do you played school?
Speaker 2: And you said Texas A and.
Speaker 7: M Yeah, Caruso, Caruso.
Speaker 4: I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's he's made more headlines in the
Speaker 4: pros when he was on the Lakers. Know, the Lakers,
Speaker 4: he won a championship and he wins another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm not too much of a regular season basketball guy.
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody that is.
Speaker 6: Well, it's just like they lit twenty with the play in.
Speaker 6: They let twenty teams into the playoffs, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. So it's like, why am I going to
Speaker 6: watch when it's like you're letting more than half the
Speaker 6: teams in and then it's like still goes on for
Speaker 6: like a month and month and a half.
Speaker 3: True, it's true because the end of mid apy yeah,
Speaker 3: mid ap here we are at the end of June.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like, I mean, I don't know, it
Speaker 6: kind of feels like why why watch the like keep
Speaker 6: up with the regular season?
Speaker 7: You know, know what teams are like doing?
Speaker 6: Okay, which ones are the ones to look out for
Speaker 6: the dark horses stuff like that. But I mean, other
Speaker 6: than that, it's like just there's too.
Speaker 4: Much other stuff going on for viewers. I mean, by
Speaker 4: the time we hit you know, May June, it's kind
Speaker 4: of that time of year where you know, football is
Speaker 4: long gone, right, right, and there is time to you know,
Speaker 4: actually sit in front of the set and that's mainly
Speaker 4: the only thing besides baseball and hockey and from into hockey. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but it's you know, it's kind of a slowist time
Speaker 4: of year.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, welcome to the slow time of year, because
Speaker 3: guess what I want to have on hockey? Hockey, hockey.
Speaker 3: It's at four seventeen. Steve Pippin, who's the coach of
Speaker 3: the road Runners. They asked to come on so you
Speaker 3: have a draft tomorrow, So they're going to talk about
Speaker 3: that and just the excitement about Tucson the Roadrunners. They're
Speaker 3: still affiliated with the Utah team, right, so we'll talk
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: They were pretty good last year. I think he looked
Speaker 2: the record, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean they were over five hundred and they made
Speaker 4: the playoffs and you know, they they've been drawing pretty well.
Speaker 4: It's nice to have a you know, a secure franchise
Speaker 4: here in town. Looks like they'll be here for a while,
Speaker 4: which is which is good news.
Speaker 2: Hopefully I didn't.
Speaker 3: Jink some by saying that, but it's called it's called
Speaker 3: the the Dave Silver Jinks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I've been around for a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 3: He's he's eight throws in a row. He'll be all
Speaker 3: right with this one clank.
Speaker 4: One of these days, I'm actually gonna write. I'll write
Speaker 4: that down. How many teams have left? I'd talked about that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's quite a few.
Speaker 2: Ye you see the number of them volleyball.
Speaker 4: So I missed that. I wasn't even here for that. Oh,
Speaker 4: no softball, professional softball. Remember that fast pitch?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like right after There's been eighty Olympics
Speaker 3: later than that.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that then.
Speaker 3: Jessica Mendoza, Oh, I don't remember. I think she might
Speaker 3: have been on the here in Town team. Really was brief.
Speaker 3: I stept to that moment. You're too busy chasing Luke down. Yeah, no, Wow,
Speaker 3: I don't remember that. Maybe someone can call me. Okay,
Speaker 3: so we're gonna have pop in at four fifteen. We're
Speaker 3: not gonna have anybody at three seventeen. Everybody's too busy
Speaker 3: working in the draft. So tomorrow we'll have maybe a
Speaker 3: follow up on everything tomorrow. Uh, and we're gonna play
Speaker 3: a clip from Tommy after we come back from break.
Speaker 3: We did today, Okay, so I think it might have
Speaker 3: been last night. But okay, so well and you have
Speaker 3: it up, you can get that. Yeah, okay, so we'll
Speaker 3: do that after the break, Okay, at the Santi San
Speaker 3: Antonio or in New York.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in New York, New York, post draft.
Speaker 3: Then we'll do that. We'll do that. We'll do that
Speaker 3: before we go to the to the Caleb Love quote Tommy, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and why don't we just do that? Now, run out
Speaker 3: of steam here, come back in five minutes and then started.
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Speaker 3: Ray and now you can have control of last night's
Speaker 3: press conference with mister Carter.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, let's start second row relations.
Speaker 17: First, which former Supers players would you compare your game
Speaker 17: style to? I think immediately the first guy, I think
Speaker 17: it was Kawhi just his defensive versatility, being able to
Speaker 17: guard multiple positions early on his career. In just as
Speaker 17: you saw his progression, he became one of the best
Speaker 17: players in the world, arguably a top three player to
Speaker 17: be playing basketball at a time where I mean Kevin Durant,
Speaker 17: Steph Curry and Lebron were pretty.
Speaker 9: Much solidified to be the top three.
Speaker 18: But he was really making a statement that he was
Speaker 18: one of the best players of the world as well.
Speaker 19: First run in the middle, Hi'm moscazlogo the Daily Wild Hat.
Speaker 7: Congratulations.
Speaker 3: First of all, I'm betting drafted and how do you
Speaker 3: see yourself fitting in with the san Ajunio Spurs.
Speaker 2: And who are you most excited to play next to.
Speaker 18: I see myself, like I said, being a guy that
Speaker 18: can bring energy, toughness, physicality, somebody that's just going to
Speaker 18: show up on a consistent basis and just work his
Speaker 18: ass off. So in terms of that, I feel like
Speaker 18: that's what I bring in. I'm looking forward to playing
Speaker 18: with my guy d Hart. I mean it's been a
Speaker 18: long time coming. We had a lot of conversations throughout
Speaker 18: high school, whether I was trying to play together in college,
Speaker 18: just maybe playing together at some point. So for him
Speaker 18: to be my draft buddy and being able to both
Speaker 18: go in the lottery and be able to represent San Antonio,
Speaker 18: it is dope.
Speaker 2: Third growing the right. Hey Bencouch MBA dot com.
Speaker 20: What do you feel like you learned about the Spurs
Speaker 20: and what they're looking for you from the draft process,
Speaker 20: and then you know, with their history of developing players
Speaker 20: and where they are, what's the forward opportunity to.
Speaker 4: Look like for you.
Speaker 18: I think the first thing I immediately noticed is just
Speaker 18: top to bottom they just run different. I think that's
Speaker 18: something you notice immediately with that organization. There very clean,
Speaker 18: they get things done very quickly. They have very precise,
Speaker 18: and they have intention behind everything they do. And I
Speaker 18: think the clear message I got behind everything is they
Speaker 18: trying to get back to the top, so being able
Speaker 18: to win games at a very high level of being
Speaker 18: able to compete for a championship. So that's the first
Speaker 18: thing that I really got from the whole staff.
Speaker 9: First shot here on the left, Carter, Congratulations.
Speaker 21: Something you mentioned yesterday is that basketball is kind of weird,
Speaker 21: like a constant striving for perfection, right joining a young
Speaker 21: team like the Spurs, you know, how do you see
Speaker 21: that kind of helping you is you guys are all
Speaker 21: kind of learning this thing together.
Speaker 18: I think the biggest thing is there's so many guys
Speaker 18: on this team, obviously myself and Dylan, but along with
Speaker 18: obviously Wemby and Steph Castle and d Fox and Harrison
Speaker 18: and all these guys.
Speaker 9: There's so much room for growth for this team.
Speaker 18: And I think you're gonna look up and we could
Speaker 18: definitely be one of those dynasties that you look back
Speaker 18: on and you're going to be like, man, this is
Speaker 18: a hell of a hell of a team.
Speaker 9: First shot here on the left.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm first of all, I'm just wondering if you
Speaker 4: know how much this makes Seawn Elliott's day having Arizona
Speaker 4: Wildcat around.
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And then uh, just also, how did how did you
Speaker 4: and Dylan meet?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 18: Wow, Dylan and I actually met playing AU tournament. We
Speaker 18: played in the New York Runs and I'll never forget.
Speaker 18: He was killing us, and I mean I was the
Speaker 18: biggest dude on our team, so coach had me.
Speaker 9: Guarding the five man.
Speaker 18: I was like, Coach, like, I promise you I could
Speaker 18: stop him. And I remember he came and walked over
Speaker 18: to the bench and he was like, I promise you, you can't
Speaker 18: stop me. So it kind of be in a full
Speaker 18: circuit moment for us to be on the same team.
Speaker 9: Now, I mean, I love that dude. He's a great dude.
Speaker 9: Great family.
Speaker 18: His father's always been great to me, always provided me
Speaker 18: with great just I don't even know the word I
Speaker 18: was looking for, but along with his mother, there's a
Speaker 18: great people, great family.
Speaker 8: Last real love Carter, Congratulations out at Sheena Quickie. A
Speaker 8: lot of sports talk. We talked yesterday about uplifting and
Speaker 8: highlighting the deaf community. Knowing yourself knowing sign language and
Speaker 8: your mom being deaf as well being deaf. Now that
Speaker 8: you are a professional player officially, Like, how do you
Speaker 8: see your role either changing or growing in terms of
Speaker 8: highlighting the deaf community. And do you see a lot
Speaker 8: of those people in the community who are NBA fans
Speaker 8: now being Spurs fans.
Speaker 18: No, definitely, I think I just want to bring more
Speaker 18: attention to whatever organization.
Speaker 9: I was blessed to be draft by.
Speaker 18: But obviously San Antonio just has a rich history of
Speaker 18: having a lot of intention but having everything they do.
Speaker 18: But I don't think my mentality towards it changes in
Speaker 18: terms of the deaf community. It's something that's always going
Speaker 18: to be important to me and always has been important
Speaker 18: to me. But I mean, I had my family, the
Speaker 18: Valenciva Scoopy Acts up in the crowd, and I saw
Speaker 18: them when I was going to do my interviews and
Speaker 18: I looked up and they were all there, signed and
Speaker 18: I love you. So I'm more than grateful for them
Speaker 18: and just everything they've taught me.
Speaker 9: For sure, I had left him.
Speaker 21: Yeah, I had a chance to talk to several players
Speaker 21: yesterday about the idea of playing next to Victor Webbin Yama.
Speaker 21: You know what is it that excites you most about,
Speaker 21: you know, playing with a guy with his skill set,
Speaker 21: his size is ranging.
Speaker 18: I mean, I'm gonna just start off defensively because that's
Speaker 18: why that's what I love to do.
Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like I can just be ultra aggressive.
Speaker 18: Obviously, you got to be smart, but just having the
Speaker 18: mental stability of knowing you kind of have a monster
Speaker 18: back there behind you that's gonna deter everything from the
Speaker 18: front of the rim. It gives me an opportunity to
Speaker 18: just be an elite defender and kind of push my limits,
Speaker 18: especially on the ball.
Speaker 9: So I think with.
Speaker 18: That being the case, I'm just ready to be active
Speaker 18: and be able to contribute defensively immediately and offensively. He's
Speaker 18: a guy that I like to use the word gravity.
Speaker 18: He's takes all the gravity in the room. So him
Speaker 18: being that type of player, I mean, it's gonna open
Speaker 18: up so many opportunities for myself dealing and so many
Speaker 18: guys on this roster for us to grow.
Speaker 17: I'm just looking forward to picking his brain. Sec how
Speaker 17: much run are you gonna give the letting them the
Speaker 17: race for Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 9: I mean, one of us gonna get it.
Speaker 18: So whether it's one or two or whoever gets it,
Speaker 18: doesn't matter.
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to win basketball games at a high level.
Speaker 22: Second round the right carter not the most important thing
Speaker 22: in the entire world. But you did rock number nine
Speaker 22: in college, sir. You can't rock nine on the Spurs.
Speaker 22: It's retired by obviously the legend Tony Parker.
Speaker 2: What number you gonna rock?
Speaker 21: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I gotta look at who has with numbers on the team.
Speaker 9: I don't know. That's a great question.
Speaker 2: Is that like a number that stands out in your mind.
Speaker 9: Like I might be meaningful to you. I know, Steph
Speaker 9: got five. That's my dog.
Speaker 18: I'm not getting that off of them.
Speaker 9: I don't I don't know. Does d Fox were four?
Speaker 2: Yeap?
Speaker 18: I can't get four and four plus five for nine
Speaker 18: when we got the one.
Speaker 9: Dylan for sure gonna have two.
Speaker 18: If nobody has two, I'm gonna have to figure something out.
Speaker 2: All good, All right, thank you, Curner. That was good stuff.
Speaker 2: What do you notice about his answers?
Speaker 3: I don't know what he's looking for. He seems pretty sharp,
Speaker 3: pretty quick. That that, and he's a very thoughtful guy.
Speaker 3: I mean he's not a hey, look at me guy.
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, very soft spoken. That's how he
Speaker 3: was at press conferences. Unfortunately we didn't get to know.
Speaker 3: The only guy that really did get to know was
Speaker 3: probably Bruce because he troubled with the team. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's they're at the podium. It's very very not transparent.
Speaker 2: It's very uh what do you call it water down?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so you get what you get and
Speaker 3: everybody gets the same stuff and then you have to
Speaker 3: write this stuff.
Speaker 2: But there's that.
Speaker 3: So you see a very soft spoken, uh sincere guy.
Speaker 4: He pulled out that Kawhi Leonard answer pretty quickly too.
Speaker 4: I wonder how much he thought about that. But I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, referring to Lebron and Carmelo or something and
Speaker 4: Steph All kind of being at the top of their game,
Speaker 4: and you know, Kawhi kind of stepped in and try
Speaker 4: to become a superstar himself.
Speaker 2: But he's going into a team that's.
Speaker 4: Got, you know, obviously great history of championships, and you
Speaker 4: know there seem to be building. They've got the number
Speaker 4: two pick, they get the number fourteen pick, and whatever
Speaker 4: else they get tonight, right, Victor Wehn, Banaya Mayana whatever
Speaker 4: his name is, coming back from injury. You know, a
Speaker 4: new coach. Popovich is going to be stepping down.
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about him in a second. We're gonna
Speaker 3: go take a listen to the question I asked, you
Speaker 3: know what, what time is it?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 7: How much time we have in the break?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do that.
Speaker 3: So we'll go to my question to Tommy about Caleb
Speaker 3: after we talked to Vinnie and we got to.
Speaker 2: Take this break.
Speaker 3: Anyway, We're gonna get Vinie Vinceta, who a former UA
Speaker 3: not U, a local TV guy. Uh, you know, so
Speaker 3: he's in San Antonio. He's gonna be on with us
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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome back to Iye on the Ball. Here on
Speaker 3: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: We got ready the controls. We're gonna go to San Antonio.
Speaker 3: Here in the second get ahold of child thirteen righteen eleven.
Speaker 3: Vinnie Vencetta, who's out in San Antonio. He has about
Speaker 3: five minutes for us, because he does at six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Vinnie is issue. Oh you're not on okay, Oh, here
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 25: Here's the.
Speaker 4: Minnie.
Speaker 2: Hey, this is Stephen Dave Silver, So gentlemen, how are you?
Speaker 25: Oh sir, I'm glad the Spurs are going to stay
Speaker 25: quiet tonight. Last night was enough.
Speaker 4: Well, they have no picks. They have no picks tonight.
Speaker 25: They traded their thirty eighth to Indiana yesterday, like thirty
Speaker 25: minutes for the draft started. All right, okay, well, and
Speaker 25: I told Brian I guess Brian Wright said it's going
Speaker 25: to be quiet tonight. So I guess they're just going
Speaker 25: to sit back and watch what happened.
Speaker 3: Oh nice, Well, your busy night included an Arizona guy.
Speaker 3: What was the reaction down there after getting Arizona's guy?
Speaker 25: I've seen Steve mixed reaction. Some say, oh, the project
Speaker 25: ship him off to Austin immediately. I've heard others say
Speaker 25: he's a three and D guy who comes off the
Speaker 25: bench right now. So it's been kind of right down
Speaker 25: the middle. In listening to Brian Wright's the GM's comments
Speaker 25: from late last night, they do believe that he can
Speaker 25: guard one through four and and they like his ability
Speaker 25: to hit to hit three pointers. So I think they
Speaker 25: probably view it as a little bit of a long
Speaker 25: term project, but they love the athleticism. The one thing
Speaker 25: that he did say, people asked him what surprised him,
Speaker 25: and he said he was surprised that Carter was there
Speaker 25: at fourteen. He said, we had him high on our board,
Speaker 25: so it really kind of felt like it fell into
Speaker 25: our laps and we felt fortunate that he was there
Speaker 25: at fourteen. So they obviously had a high grade on
Speaker 25: Carter Bryant.
Speaker 4: It was kind of interesting too, because this last and
Speaker 4: only year he played. You know, I don't think he
Speaker 4: ever started a game. He didn't play a lot of minutes,
Speaker 4: he didn't score a lot of points. But you know,
Speaker 4: it seems like the NBA will draft on potential. Do
Speaker 4: you think this is just another example of that.
Speaker 25: I guess that I sort of wanted to turn that
Speaker 25: question around on you guys. I mean, for a guy
Speaker 25: that came off the bench in Tucson, it's crazy to
Speaker 25: me that he winds up being a lottery pick. I mean,
Speaker 25: how did Tommy. I haven't had a chance to listen
Speaker 25: to Lloyd's comments yet, but Damien from KOLB is actually
Speaker 25: sending those my way. But how did Tommy feel about
Speaker 25: him during the pre draft process?
Speaker 2: Exactly what you would think.
Speaker 3: A very good kid, well spoken, a thoughtful guy can
Speaker 3: play a great athletic ability. He just didn't get a chance.
Speaker 3: But here's the situation with Tommy. Uh, he Carter was
Speaker 3: very raw early and very timid. He didn't want to
Speaker 3: ruffle any feathers. So Tommy had established his starting lineup right, uh,
Speaker 3: and then he kind of eased him in a little
Speaker 3: and he started to gain more confidence by that time.
Speaker 3: Tommy didn't want to screw with a starting lineup, so
Speaker 3: he didn't move him into the starting lineup, but he
Speaker 3: moved him into the more playing time rule, if that
Speaker 3: makes any sense. So instead of roughly feathers, he just
Speaker 3: kind of eased him in.
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's that's that's an interesting point. And some people
Speaker 25: think that Carter maybe can be like you know, Bruce Bowen,
Speaker 25: you know, just kind of hang there in the corner,
Speaker 25: hit corner threes and then really d up on your
Speaker 25: defensive assignment. Richard Jefferson, one of your guys did that
Speaker 25: to an extent, not as well as Bowen. Didn't hear
Speaker 25: with the Spurs that they kind of view him as
Speaker 25: a guy that just kind of find your spots, find
Speaker 25: your threes, don't be the hero, take him when you
Speaker 25: got them, and really focus on defense. And he's also
Speaker 25: excited too, because I guess he's known Dylan Harper. I
Speaker 25: wouldn't say for a while. They're both they're both only nineteen,
Speaker 25: but they knew each other in high school ball. So
Speaker 25: it's kind of a cool connection between the second overall
Speaker 25: pick there, Harper and Carter.
Speaker 4: As I said, they have a nice little nucleus going
Speaker 4: with Victor. And how's Victor's health? Has anyone heard from
Speaker 4: him in the off season?
Speaker 25: That was the very last question of Brian Wright last night,
Speaker 25: And well, well, first of all, I'll answer the way
Speaker 25: you asked there, Dave, Victor's been active. He spent some
Speaker 25: time at a at a temple overseas. I think with
Speaker 25: some monks and kind of kind of kept finding his
Speaker 25: zen moment. He's been active all all over the world.
Speaker 25: He's been traveling everywhere, and he's been seen all over creation,
Speaker 25: so he looks fine. Brian Wright did say the very
Speaker 25: last thing he was asked at his press conference was
Speaker 25: about Victor said, I don't want to divulge too much,
Speaker 25: but I'll just say that he's progressing fine and we
Speaker 25: expect big things out of him. So as bad as
Speaker 25: the shoulder of from brosis, if if that's what it was,
Speaker 25: if memory serves as bad as that was off the top,
Speaker 25: and it sounds like Victor will be on time to
Speaker 25: be at training camp in September.
Speaker 3: October before before you go of any you've talked about
Speaker 3: someone saying or a couple of people saying that they're
Speaker 3: viewing him as a project and why not shipping up
Speaker 3: to Austin. Are those, in your mind credible people that
Speaker 3: you would trust saying that? Because it all comes about
Speaker 3: credibility from the people who are saying that.
Speaker 25: I think they're lifelong media members that have been here
Speaker 25: a long time, that have seen the Spurs way and
Speaker 25: the Spurs culture of doing things. So I'll give you
Speaker 25: An example Corey Joseph, a draft picked from a number
Speaker 25: of years ago at the University of Texas who came
Speaker 25: in while the duncan Era was still going. He actually
Speaker 25: went to coach Pop at some point and said to please,
Speaker 25: I'm not ready, send me to Austin. Let me learn
Speaker 25: the professional ways. And when he came back you could
Speaker 25: see how well their player development works.
Speaker 4: So Carter's got to.
Speaker 25: Know and they will let him know if we send
Speaker 25: you to Austin. This is not a bad thing. We're
Speaker 25: getting you ready for the big club on a nightly basis.
Speaker 25: So not saying he'll spend some time there, it wouldn't
Speaker 25: shock me if he does. If he does, it's it's
Speaker 25: only for the very best reasons that he would go
Speaker 25: up to Austin for for whatever the period of time is.
Speaker 3: Well, the good thing from your end is that you're
Speaker 3: getting a good kid, a well spoken kid, a.
Speaker 2: Good story with with his history and his.
Speaker 3: Family's history of the death, and has been an advocate
Speaker 3: for it.
Speaker 2: Right. I don't even know how to say it, but
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 25: So you I heard him asked about I heard him
Speaker 25: ask about that last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, for sure, so, and you in your world
Speaker 3: it's it's a good story, so you'll find good stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some like Instagram stories I think with
Speaker 4: sign language, you know, announcing the draft if you will. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: he's really an advocate for that, so it'll be a
Speaker 4: good story for you guys.
Speaker 25: So they have a nonprofit here in the city a
Speaker 25: greater San Antonio called Lighthouse for the Blind. So it
Speaker 25: wouldn't shock me if he's if he's as good a
Speaker 25: kid as you say he is, that he actually winds
Speaker 25: up getting involved in helping out the local community here. Yeah, no,
Speaker 25: he's I guess it's definitely.
Speaker 9: I guess it's deaf. Sorry, sorry, not flind deaf.
Speaker 3: Okay, just lastly, how are you doing. It's been a
Speaker 3: while since you've we've seen you here in Tucson.
Speaker 25: Going going good, going good. I had had a crazy
Speaker 25: run with our with our UTSA baseball team. They were
Speaker 25: a couple of wins away from the from the CWS
Speaker 25: went out and got swept by uh by UCLA and
Speaker 25: the super But they had a historical run. They never
Speaker 25: had a run like that in program history. So we
Speaker 25: were busy with that and I was excited to see
Speaker 25: the Wildcats get back to Omaha. I know it was
Speaker 25: kind of a short stay, but good to see their
Speaker 25: program back at the CWS. They're one of those, they're
Speaker 25: one of those you expect to get to Omaha quite
Speaker 25: a bit.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a dumb question, Two you've gone,
Speaker 3: You've been done almost ten years now.
Speaker 2: I think maybe even more.
Speaker 25: But my fourteenth year, fourteenth gone a long time.
Speaker 3: So let me ask you, is minus minus the Spurs?
Speaker 3: Uh is Tucson and San Antonio similar sports town?
Speaker 25: So high school football is just it's almost bigger than
Speaker 25: the second religion here, Steve, it is a massive, big deal.
Speaker 25: High school sports in San Antonio is a really big deal.
Speaker 25: And so I would say they're a little bit different.
Speaker 4: In that way.
Speaker 25: The UTSA is not near as big of a deal
Speaker 25: as the u of A is in Tucson, but kind
Speaker 25: of aesthetically, they're both outdoor communities and you know, kind
Speaker 25: of you know, San Antonio is obviously a massive tourist destination.
Speaker 25: You can say that about Tucson, but they're both outdoor cities,
Speaker 25: a lot of things to do, So maybe maybe in
Speaker 25: that way, but you know, the big ticket has always
Speaker 25: been the Spurs. No matter what is happening, But we
Speaker 25: do have a lot of events roll through here. PGA
Speaker 25: just had another Final four back in March or early April,
Speaker 25: whatever it was, as you guys know, so it's a
Speaker 25: very very very happening place. Anytime I think it's going
Speaker 25: to slow down for five minutes and sports, it does not.
Speaker 3: Well right in your wheelhouse. Man, Thank you Benny for
Speaker 3: coming on real quick. Good to hear from you.
Speaker 21: Yeah, you guys too.
Speaker 25: I love Dave Silver being back on the broadcast. Mike
Speaker 25: is exciting.
Speaker 17: Love.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, you know what, keep that.
Speaker 3: We're gonna keep your phone number handy just in case
Speaker 3: as we get closer to the NBA c.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when his training camp rolls on, it
Speaker 4: will be good to catch up.
Speaker 2: You'll be our Senatonio me anytime.
Speaker 25: I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 3: San Antonio correspondent, Vinnie, Thank you, Vinny, you got to
Speaker 3: take care.
Speaker 2: That was great. That was great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing different than you probably thought you'd hear. Right
Speaker 3: about Carter.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, you know, we kind of know the
Speaker 4: scouting report and his personality that at least we've been
Speaker 4: able to see, so you know, he's gonna be asked
Speaker 4: to do a lot more of that, the interviews, and
Speaker 4: they'll be doing feature stories on him, you know, as
Speaker 4: you know they get closer to training camp and the
Speaker 4: comparisons to other great Spurs players, They've got such a
Speaker 4: history there that they.
Speaker 2: Can look at.
Speaker 4: It just reminds me of you know, Sean when he
Speaker 4: got here and you know whatever, it was eighty nine.
Speaker 2: So let me throw this at you.
Speaker 3: Uh, they're gonna get two guys, right, they got the
Speaker 3: second guy fourth round, was first second pick, second pick,
Speaker 3: and a fourteen guy. So let's remember Miami last year
Speaker 3: they got two you guys, Larson and kid from San
Speaker 3: Diego State.
Speaker 2: You should know this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, so they got and we thought, okay, they're
Speaker 3: gonna they might make it.
Speaker 2: They might not make it. They might be in the
Speaker 2: D League.
Speaker 3: They played I think a considerable amount in the in
Speaker 3: the Miami my system.
Speaker 4: I have a good feeling about Carter. I don't know
Speaker 4: what it is. I can see him playing, you know,
Speaker 4: in Vegas or whatever, these you know, wherever these games
Speaker 4: are going to be in the summer, in him shining.
Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna be kind of let loose. I mean,
Speaker 4: even when I was here, you know, he was kind
Speaker 4: of deferring to some of the older guys. But now
Speaker 4: they're all rookies basically or first or second year players.
Speaker 3: I expect him to do well. Do you have the
Speaker 3: roster up? Can you find the roster? Yeah, because that's
Speaker 3: what it's gonna matter, right when? Yeah, where does he
Speaker 3: fill in?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean they've got a lot of young players.
Speaker 4: They also have dearon Fox and they got Victor and
Speaker 4: now these two rookies kind of, you know, expected to contribute.
Speaker 4: I would assume at least the number two pick will.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if if you're a first round pick, they they're
Speaker 3: spending money on you, right, They're hoping that you pan out,
Speaker 3: not like if you're a second round well we'll just
Speaker 3: move you and do whatever, put you in the D League. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but now they're obligated financially.
Speaker 4: They got a new coach basically, you know, just took
Speaker 4: over for Greg Popovich, who've been there forever. He's got
Speaker 4: a lot to prove. He's gonna want to make his
Speaker 4: mark these NBA teams. Look what Oklahoma City has basically
Speaker 4: done with a lot of young guys. They're the youngest,
Speaker 4: maybe the second youngest team ever to win the championship. So,
Speaker 4: I mean, teams are blossoming pretty quickly. So what are
Speaker 4: you what do you look at their roster?
Speaker 6: Well, yes, I do have the roster pulled up, but
Speaker 6: it's just like I just started thinking about the like
Speaker 6: after okayc one, and it's they didn't even know how
Speaker 6: to pop the bottles.
Speaker 2: They they didn't know.
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, so SGA's howled he's he's he's one
Speaker 4: of the older ones. But everybody else a bunch of kids.
Speaker 2: What do they have on that roster?
Speaker 6: Getting Victor obviously, it says Chris Paul, but I don't
Speaker 6: I think he's still there? Yeah, darn Felt, Darren Fox obviously,
Speaker 6: Dylan Harper from Rutgers that got picked yesterday, Stefan Castle,
Speaker 6: Harrison Barnes.
Speaker 9: There, and then the other notable one.
Speaker 7: I feel like his Bismac beyonmbo.
Speaker 2: Okay, who I.
Speaker 4: Mean he would be playing Harrison Barnes position. I would think, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I would assuming that he's gonna go up
Speaker 4: and down, up and down, you know, get some playing time,
Speaker 4: come back. Yeah, it's probably the smartest thing to do.
Speaker 4: I would guess if that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 4: Or if that's what they think, you know, he would
Speaker 4: he would develop better by going to play in the
Speaker 4: G League. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't pay attention too much until they come
Speaker 3: back up. I say this all the time, at least
Speaker 3: before you came on, Dave and to Jay. And this
Speaker 3: is my experience of covering the u of a basketball.
Speaker 3: If you're good enough, no matter the numbers, they're gonna
Speaker 3: get you. You remember Robertus Jack Tobas. Oh, yeah, back
Speaker 3: in the day, he didn't really play a whole lot.
Speaker 2: He was kind of a stiff, big dude.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 3: Guess where he went San Antonio, Right, but he was drafted. Uh,
Speaker 3: he didn't play that much here. Did he have an impact?
Speaker 3: Not really, but he was he was NBA kind of good.
Speaker 3: That makes any sense?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean once they get open, kind of away
Speaker 4: from the Arizona program and they go into these combines,
Speaker 4: they go to the visit the teams. You know, maybe
Speaker 4: they're looking for something we just didn't notice, or maybe
Speaker 4: you know, coach Elson didn't want to play them, didn't
Speaker 4: have room for him at the time.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 25: Well.
Speaker 3: The one thing that I do know, because they mentioned
Speaker 3: a number of times infecting the my fourth book or
Speaker 3: whatever it was. The hundred things that that the NBA teams,
Speaker 3: at least for Loot's time, that they knew they were
Speaker 3: ready to play in the NBA because they knew the
Speaker 3: fun them, they knew how to play the game. And
Speaker 3: you know that you've heard that a thousand times that
Speaker 3: the guys, you didn't have to kind of shock them
Speaker 3: with something.
Speaker 2: They've seen it.
Speaker 4: One of the beauties too, and we've talked about this
Speaker 4: as well through our time, is you know the guys
Speaker 4: would come back in the summer, You know that the
Speaker 4: pros would come back and they would play with the
Speaker 4: UFA guys, they'd scrimmage with, and I think I'm sure
Speaker 4: that helped. You know, we don't know, we're not really
Speaker 4: listening to their conversations, but just having a guy like
Speaker 4: Richard Jefferson or Channing fry Er, people like that have
Speaker 4: played for almost twenty years each to come back and
Speaker 4: mentor and just tell some of these guys who think
Speaker 4: they know it all.
Speaker 3: First they're eighteen, and you know, first of all, kick
Speaker 3: your ass in the in the summer league right then,
Speaker 3: and then tell you this is what you need to say.
Speaker 2: They would come back.
Speaker 4: Remember they would come back even back in the day,
Speaker 4: they'd be camper I mean, coaches at the Lootse camp
Speaker 4: and some of the guys would come back occasionally.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's all even allowed anymore, but
Speaker 4: it was. It was kind of cool in those years
Speaker 4: where they were able to, you know, give some advice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, So now we're going to go to like question
Speaker 3: because there's another guy left. There's a couple of talentsend
Speaker 3: name was mentioned. I don't think he'll be drafted. The
Speaker 3: question is whether Caleb Love will be drafted. So a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, when we had a chance to
Speaker 3: talk to Tommy, I threw a question at him. I
Speaker 3: guess something you kind of did like, but it was
Speaker 3: I don't think I thought it was a legit question.
Speaker 3: Tuition obviously two great years here, nowhere near anybody's sights
Speaker 3: of NBA stuff.
Speaker 2: Just what do you really who are you talking to?
Speaker 9: You?
Speaker 26: And I must be talking to different people. Cab is
Speaker 26: going to be in the NBA next year, is going
Speaker 26: to be in the NBA. I have no doubt about him.
Speaker 26: And and you know, there's this part of the evaluation
Speaker 26: process where you know, scouts are out doing their thing,
Speaker 26: and you know gms are and stuff too and check up.
Speaker 26: But it's very scout driven early and you know, you know,
Speaker 26: I recruited and coached and then left and he continued
Speaker 26: to play at Gonzai. Guy kid named Andrew Demhart. And
Speaker 26: you couldn't have told me Andrew Demhart wasn't going to
Speaker 26: be a good NBA player. I would have never I was.
Speaker 26: I would have argued with you all day long because
Speaker 26: I knew he was gonna be a good NBA player.
Speaker 26: And eventually, when these decisions get worked up to you know,
Speaker 26: coaches and the top front office guys, they might think
Speaker 26: a little differently than the scouts. And I knew once
Speaker 26: a coach Andrewnimhart, he was going to be like, what's
Speaker 26: wrong with this guy?
Speaker 2: This guy makes the right decision every time. He's tough.
Speaker 26: He's a great team guy. I mean, like, you know,
Speaker 26: he's good size, Like, show me one thing that's wrong
Speaker 26: with him. And I think that turned out pretty well.
Speaker 26: I have Caleb in the same thing. I think, you know,
Speaker 26: you know, the the right person is going to kind
Speaker 26: of get outside of the maybe some of the things
Speaker 26: that you're reading and they're going to make a well
Speaker 26: informed basketball decision from a basketball expert, and they're going
Speaker 26: to be like, Caleb Love's really talented. I don't know
Speaker 26: how many guys can go out and score thirty five
Speaker 26: points easy on Duke.
Speaker 2: I mean, don't he showed you something there?
Speaker 25: You know what?
Speaker 26: He might be a little inconsistent some of there, but
Speaker 26: I know there's not too many guys that can do that.
Speaker 26: And sometimes when you're evaluating and building a team, when
Speaker 26: a guy shows you a ceiling, you pay attention. Wow,
Speaker 26: he can score thirty five on Duke in an Insaney
Speaker 26: tournament game. What's just dig deeper on this one and
Speaker 26: dig deeper and then figure out how can I get
Speaker 26: this guy to hit his ceiling more often? And you know,
Speaker 26: how can I raise his floor? That's what those guys do.
Speaker 26: So I'm I'm I'm very confident in Caleb's opportunity to
Speaker 26: that He's going to earn an opportunity to be on
Speaker 26: an NBA roster, and then then from there he's got
Speaker 26: to make.
Speaker 2: The best of it.
Speaker 3: So I don't disagree with anything he said, especially the
Speaker 3: end five seconds, because he kind of walked it back,
Speaker 3: didn't he Yeah, you know he's gonna be in the NBA.
Speaker 2: He started with, and I'm not criticized. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: what he said, he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna be in the NBA, and then in the final
Speaker 3: seconds he's gonna get the opportunity.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt about that. He'll be.
Speaker 3: He'll be if he's not drafted tonight, He'll get a
Speaker 3: free agency chance tonight. By the end of the night,
Speaker 3: somebody will sign him, and then he'll get ready for
Speaker 3: the summer. That's undeniable. So it was kind of like
Speaker 3: really strong, really strong, and then he says, well, he's
Speaker 3: gonna get a chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think too.
Speaker 4: As I was saying before, I think you get them
Speaker 4: in the summer league games, you get them with the teams,
Speaker 4: get them, you know, closer to some of his potential teammates,
Speaker 4: and let him run wild in the summer the league
Speaker 4: and see how he goes. He's got nothing to lose. Really,
Speaker 4: he's not going to get picked.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You go out there and do show what you can do.
Speaker 4: If it doesn't work out, you go g lee, you
Speaker 4: go to Europe or something like that. Maybe you come
Speaker 4: back or so. But what I'm afraid of sometimes these
Speaker 4: guys once they leave the country and they go to Europe,
Speaker 4: they stay for a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and then well the thing is they make
Speaker 3: a good living living. Here's my issue with kilob I
Speaker 3: think he's a fantastic player, and I wasn't asking the
Speaker 3: question for criticism. I'm says, this is what I've seen.
Speaker 3: There's nobody's on it. He's not on anybody's list. And
Speaker 3: he says, who are you looking at? And I says, well,
Speaker 3: it's the same one are the list of saying this,
Speaker 3: what do I have any I don't want a dog
Speaker 3: in the fight.
Speaker 2: But here's the guy.
Speaker 3: He goes to the combine, or doesn't go to the combine,
Speaker 3: doesn't get invited to go further, get sent to the
Speaker 3: D league thing. That's not my decision, right, that's their decision.
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, what does he need to do after
Speaker 3: a year going to the NBA to test the waters?
Speaker 2: Does that make sense to me? What does he lack?
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know. I mean, I think I
Speaker 4: think now just the opportunity to get on, get onto
Speaker 4: a roster, get into one of most summer league situations,
Speaker 4: get into a place where he can play his game.
Speaker 4: You know away from Arizona and now it's just you
Speaker 4: know your yourself at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're trying to make the team.
Speaker 4: There's only going to be a couple of roster spots
Speaker 4: open on any of these teams besides the top picks. Right,
Speaker 4: It's not like he's gonna have really a great chance
Speaker 4: just mathematically to make a team, especially when you come
Speaker 4: in as a free agent.
Speaker 2: That's what made it so much.
Speaker 4: Remarkable, so remarkable with with Pella Keyshot last year. I
Speaker 4: guess they were drafted, but still, you know, sure's not
Speaker 4: a lot of spots.
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of spots.
Speaker 3: And you have teams like San Antonio who are not obligated,
Speaker 3: but they have they're financially obligated to play the people
Speaker 3: they drafted.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 4: There's some incentive to paying a lot of money to
Speaker 4: you know, de Aaron Fox and Wamby those guys are
Speaker 4: you know, taking up all the cash.
Speaker 2: But lets it like what Boston's done.
Speaker 4: They've just just getting rid of player after player because
Speaker 4: it's they're they're paying you know, way too much and
Speaker 4: the NBA salaries are out of hand and that's just
Speaker 4: the way it is. But you know, when you're when
Speaker 4: you have this chance, you might as well take advantage
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, into to Tommy's point, I don't disagree with anything
Speaker 3: he said, uh saying what are you reading? What are
Speaker 3: you reading that Caleb is a fantastic talent. You suled
Speaker 3: to put thirty five on dupe? Yeah, you can play
Speaker 3: right right, Well.
Speaker 2: You could do these things.
Speaker 3: If people see you, they like what you do, you'll
Speaker 3: you'll find a spot of nothing to disagree with Tommy
Speaker 3: on any of that, because he's exactly right now.
Speaker 2: The chance is give me that chance. Just give me
Speaker 2: that chance.
Speaker 4: Well, hopefully you know the team's he's I'm sure he's
Speaker 4: got help with you know, his agents or whoever you know,
Speaker 4: scoping out you know, the best opportunity. You know, he's
Speaker 4: gonna want to go to a team that maybe isn't
Speaker 4: gonna have you know, five shooting guards already lined up
Speaker 4: ahead of him. You know, he wants to go to
Speaker 4: a place that's gonna give him a chance to show
Speaker 4: what he can do. Especially you know, I set it
Speaker 4: over and over here. Just get in those some of
Speaker 4: these summer league gas where they play you know, five
Speaker 4: to six games and show what you can do. And
Speaker 4: hopefully stick somewhere on some roster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough, but you know, hey,
Speaker 3: uh it's it's in the NBA. There are very few
Speaker 3: jobs in the NBA worldwide, right, you.
Speaker 4: Know, basically fifteen per team about it, right.
Speaker 2: Right, So five hundred spots. You better be good at
Speaker 2: what you do.
Speaker 4: You're getting paid guys like Lebron and Kevin Duran who
Speaker 4: don't want to give it up.
Speaker 2: I mean they're also they're playing in their twentieth seasons.
Speaker 3: There's that point, right, And we had Justin Gardner on
Speaker 3: yesterday and he says, you know, how could you not?
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the player of the year in the
Speaker 3: ACC right back in a couple three years ago, his
Speaker 3: player of the year in the Pack twelve Pack twelve twelve,
Speaker 3: and then a pretty good player here this last year.
Speaker 3: How did he not nick a roster? Yeah, because there
Speaker 3: was a ton of good players out there. Of the
Speaker 3: twenty or thirty people that got thirty people that got
Speaker 3: drafted last night, how many did you actually know?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean half no.
Speaker 6: And then like the other thing too, to go along
Speaker 6: with that is like the international players that doesn't even
Speaker 6: go to school.
Speaker 4: Here, right that it's like, and that's happening a lot.
Speaker 4: I remember how much we happened. There was a guy
Speaker 4: last night that was drafted, guy from China draft.
Speaker 3: And there was a video. He's like sitting up in
Speaker 3: the rafters. He wasn't even down on the floor. There
Speaker 3: was I think he was the last guy, last guys
Speaker 3: there in the end.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he thought he was going to be a Day
Speaker 7: two guy. Okay, and in the blue suit, I think
Speaker 7: it was it might have been what I thought, why yeah,
Speaker 7: ok no, that.
Speaker 2: Was the handsome guy.
Speaker 3: The other guy came out in the blue suit coming
Speaker 3: from the comming from the rafters or yeah, decide, but.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 6: But I mean, like, right exactly a point where it's
Speaker 6: like everybody's trying to get these coveted spots and it's
Speaker 6: like you are great, but you got to realize like this,
Speaker 6: like this ain't a pond anymore, this is an ocean.
Speaker 7: Like you gotta be a big fish in the ocean.
Speaker 3: Sure at this point, sure, no matter how good you
Speaker 3: are and even circumstances. Yeah, Cory Williams talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3: He was ready to go for Milwaukee, and I didn't
Speaker 3: know the story. He was ready to go be on
Speaker 3: the roster from Milwaukee for the summer Magic Johnson had
Speaker 3: some players that asked for a favorite to be on
Speaker 3: the roster. Those guys said, sorry, I'm gonna take these
Speaker 3: other guys from Magic because he's a friend of mine.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: And he found out, guess what, it's a business, and
Speaker 3: guess what the NBA is, It's a business.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, if you're not drafted, the draftees obviously
Speaker 4: have an advantage just you know, because they were just picked,
Speaker 4: so they're priority. But when you're coming in as one
Speaker 4: of you know, maybe seven or eight three eight that
Speaker 4: are going to be on that summer league thing, sure,
Speaker 4: you know, you really have to shine. So that's where
Speaker 4: I like, you know, Caleb, I think because he can't,
Speaker 4: you know, I think if he freelances a little bit.
Speaker 2: And just if he can get hot, we know what
Speaker 2: he can do. Yeah. Well, I guarantee you, Dave.
Speaker 3: I'll bet you whatever money you want to bet that
Speaker 3: at the end of tonight's draft, you're gonna hear for
Speaker 3: the ones that for the ones that weren't drafted. The
Speaker 3: good thing and the positive thing you could pick the
Speaker 3: team you're gonna want to go to because it's a
Speaker 3: better fit, you know. So some people might enjoy that
Speaker 3: better than not getting drafted, because then you're obligated to
Speaker 3: go to that team or take a chance on yourself
Speaker 3: and go to a team that you can find a way.
Speaker 4: Yep, that's that's the way it's going to be. He's
Speaker 4: not picked, he's going somewhere.
Speaker 2: He's going.
Speaker 4: Sure, there's no gonna be a matter of minutes after
Speaker 4: the draft ends, like, oh, he just signs a free
Speaker 4: agent and that's too.
Speaker 3: Tommy's point. At the end, he's gonna get a chance. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I know, we got to go