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<v Speaker 1>All right, listen up, Calves, I got your assignments riga

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<v Speaker 1>six four three wheeler one four eight not eight oh

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<v Speaker 1>four and only you. You need to join host HP

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<v Speaker 1>and Father Alone as they examine one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>sitcoms in television history, Taxi in Night Mister Walters, a

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<v Speaker 2>Record, Frank mister Walters.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird in Wade were welcome back midnight viewers to Anthologies Attack.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Father Alone and with me back from his exclusive

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<v Speaker 1>three year tour of Europe, Scandinavia and the Subcontinent. My

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<v Speaker 1>co host mister Antonio Lapour. How are you, Antonio?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You see I was in the Beds and Clay Drive

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<v Speaker 2>big Hey, how are you? Wasn't that cartoon back in

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<v Speaker 2>the from it was like the Hunters Club or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like the old British guy and he

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<v Speaker 2>had the mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Was that part of like Fractured Fairy Tales, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bullwinkle and the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>segment from that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's it. And he would always started, I was

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<v Speaker 4>Abel Clongo. We're just kind of go.

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<v Speaker 1>From that quite okay, tonight we are taking a look

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<v Speaker 1>at another animated anthology. Our last one was Fantasia, and

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<v Speaker 1>this one from director Bruno Bozetto could be seen as

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<v Speaker 1>a direct response, a spoof the satire to that film

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen seventy six. We are discussing the cult classic

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<v Speaker 1>Allegro non Tropo.

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<v Speaker 3>Where are they all going into another world? Fantastic triple

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<v Speaker 3>I will be filled with color. Laughter comes in all

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<v Speaker 3>shapes and size too. With sociated music, expect the unexpected

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<v Speaker 3>Legro non great Peachi.

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<v Speaker 1>A Legro non Tropo released in March twelfth and nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six. Not the first time I saw it? Was

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<v Speaker 1>this the first time you saw it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>This was the very first time I've seen this picture,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just watched it this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>It was something else.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have HBO when you were a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 4>Was it on it a lot?

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<v Speaker 1>No? However, if you remember, HBO was always sent by

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<v Speaker 1>the hour, sometimes the half hour, but if they were

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<v Speaker 1>starting a movie, it generally was on the hour.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. It would give you like twenty minutes of

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<v Speaker 2>if like Star Wars entered at two twenty, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>ten minutes of like previews, commercials and like ePK really exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you had your movie ended at nine to

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five, you had twenty five minutes to phill to

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<v Speaker 1>get to ten o'clock to start the next feature. They

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<v Speaker 1>would throw on little shorts and little videos, and they

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<v Speaker 1>one of their animated shorts was the Balero sequence from

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. So I had seen that sequence dozens upon

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of times before I had seen this movie. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was simply just another short film, like

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<v Speaker 1>all of those Canadian board that the Board of Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember all of those short.

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<v Speaker 2>Films, Oh, like the Snowman.

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<v Speaker 1>The Big Snit, or the Back, the Cordell, Barker or Baker,

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<v Speaker 1>all of those amazing shorts coming down from here.

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<v Speaker 4>Snowman is the one I remember the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Yeah, it's that that haunting female over that equally

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<v Speaker 1>haunting melancholic animation. Speaking of animation, when I first got

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<v Speaker 1>to Los Angeles, I became a projectionist. My mentor named

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Avanni, Projectionist Extraordinaire, who showed me this film on

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<v Speaker 1>video tape, knowing how much I loved animation and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I hadn't seen it, and he said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna love this. If you've seen Fantasica, it's a direct

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<v Speaker 1>response to Fantasia. And the thing that the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I loved about the movie was that I was expecting

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that just sort of gently pokes fun at Fantasia.

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<v Speaker 1>This really is the lead character when he's introducing our

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<v Speaker 1>film here basically calls it a Fantasia before he gets

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<v Speaker 1>a call from the lawyers telling him he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>knock that shit off because there's a Prisney or a

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<v Speaker 1>Grisney on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is it? Was that? What did you say

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<v Speaker 2>about that guy? Is you gotta love that jacket?

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<v Speaker 1>It is a fantastic jacket. It would make a fantastic jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell of a wallpaper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just like it was funny, like a Hollywood calling.

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<v Speaker 2>He apologizes, Hey, sorry, guys, it's it's Disney. I are

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<v Speaker 2>Pisney or Wisney or whatever it is. But the way

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<v Speaker 2>he's in, you know, Disney made me do this. And

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<v Speaker 2>they go outside and the farmer like unpacks the old

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<v Speaker 2>ladies from the chicken coop.

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<v Speaker 1>Or whatever the hell that's the thing. So that sequence happens,

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<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit threatened sequence happens, right, and my friend turns

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<v Speaker 1>to me as if I'm going to be delighted at

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<v Speaker 1>how they're taking the piss out of Disney here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay. And then they go to get the orchestra, which,

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<v Speaker 1>as you're saying, is a pen of like old Italian grannies.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>They're at the pound basically, and then they round up

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<v Speaker 1>these old women, pack them up and bring them to

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<v Speaker 1>the theater and they're the orchestra.

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<v Speaker 4>And then they've got the artists chained up, like in

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<v Speaker 4>the Dungeon artist.

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<v Speaker 1>The animator, because it's that animated films are made on

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<v Speaker 1>the fly by one human.

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<v Speaker 4>With a magnimicent mustache.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's just so out there, and I'm like, is

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<v Speaker 2>this Italian comedy? Is this what? Like? What what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Like everything. That's the thing about Italian cinema, like Italian cinema,

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<v Speaker 2>that there's one unifying theme in Italian cinema.

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<v Speaker 4>It's weird, is wacky. I don't know how I was

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<v Speaker 4>to put it.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything is very dream like basically, I think everything is

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<v Speaker 2>a dream.

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<v Speaker 1>There tends to be an absurdist quality to nearly every

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<v Speaker 1>piece of entertainment I've seen coming out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean I took Italian cinema in school

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<v Speaker 2>the way back when, and I got all my best

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I like Fellini. I love eight and a Half,

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<v Speaker 2>But eight and a half. I love eight and a

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<v Speaker 2>half because it's a fever dream about a horning middle

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<v Speaker 2>aged director. I kind of know what that's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't making any sense, but it's really cool

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<v Speaker 2>to watch, and every time you watch it, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get something new out of it, you know. But still

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<v Speaker 2>they're weird. I remember there was way back in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineties and I loved Cemetery.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>It was an Italian picture and it was about oh

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<v Speaker 2>and it was a great movie. And you watch it

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<v Speaker 2>and by the end of it, it's just got this

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<v Speaker 2>batshit crazy ending where he's sucking in a snow globe

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<v Speaker 2>and the mentally challenged caretakers that it's like, what, I

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<v Speaker 2>just Italian movies, man, Like, the most straightforward thing you

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<v Speaker 2>can get is a horror.

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<v Speaker 1>Dela more to de la mare is the actual title

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the film and Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but his name was like Oper de la morte

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that too.

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<v Speaker 4>In the movie, Yeah, de la Morte de la Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, it is a fantastic movie. Wild we overlooked from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety four. Yeah, because you know, in ninety four

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<v Speaker 1>no one gives it shit about zombies a but.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Italian cinema always has this, like you said, that

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<v Speaker 2>absurdist the one I remember, the one I remember who

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<v Speaker 2>was the one with Anthony Anthony Quinn and he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>the circus strong man.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that Lestrata?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, I think it Istrata?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I liked that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Name some more Italian directors.

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<v Speaker 4>Well the other the other guys say, uh, and what's

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<v Speaker 4>his name?

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Michelangelo Antonioni.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, micg'langel Antonioni did.

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<v Speaker 1>Blow up fucking a. Yeah, just in a class by itself,

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<v Speaker 1>that film, and hard to quantify what's so good about it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Di Palma basically remade that film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was where they go there. DiPalma remade that film.

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<v Speaker 2>But de Palma remade that film. Obama took that original

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<v Speaker 2>film and then made a movie. Yet it right, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that is logical, right, you know, and it's and it's

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<v Speaker 2>a thriller and it's just blow up isn't that at.

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<v Speaker 1>All, man, It's all mood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all mood, it's all style, it's all cool. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't resolve itself. The end is like two minds playing

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<v Speaker 2>invisible tennis like it's it doesn't make a lick of

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<v Speaker 2>fucking sense, and it doesn't matter, because it's just twenty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes of mid sixties cool with awesome suits and guys

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<v Speaker 2>smoking cigarettes and girls of mini skirts and you're just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what with the.

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<v Speaker 4>How the kids put him in the vibe that movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Pasolini, Pierre Paulo Posli did one of the coolest Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>movies ever, The Gospel of Saint Matthew, and he shoots

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<v Speaker 2>it like a documentary and it's also like a dream sequence.

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<v Speaker 4>Everything is really floaty and this and that, and then

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<v Speaker 4>he cuts those.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of handheld generate things and I like almost like

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<v Speaker 2>interview shots and stuff like that, and you know it,

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<v Speaker 2>Scorsese like, that's what made him want to do Last

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<v Speaker 2>Temptation was that style. And I'm pretty sure his new

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<v Speaker 2>one coming out with with Spider Man, with Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew Garfield playing like a modern Jesus whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course he's been talking about that movie for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred years, and he wants to do Jesus with guys

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<v Speaker 2>in business suits and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's gonna shoot it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like that Passolini movie.

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<v Speaker 4>I guarantee it.

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<v Speaker 1>No mean all of your Italian choices are so high minded.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I saw in College Man, and then the

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<v Speaker 4>other at the other end.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you've got you, You've got the king of

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<v Speaker 2>of all movies.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got Dino de Larentis produce their extraordinaire, that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Who gave me just a bunch of schlock that I

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<v Speaker 2>love to death When I was a kid. You know

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<v Speaker 2>how many times I watched the The Hercules movies with Lufereigno.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course the greatest Italian filmmaker of them all,

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<v Speaker 2>he is one of the greatest film makers whoever walked

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<v Speaker 2>the face of the earth. Then called Sergia Leoti, creator

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<v Speaker 2>the greatest Western of all time, the Good, the bet

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<v Speaker 2>and the Ugly, and the other two greatest Westerns of

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<v Speaker 2>the of all time. Fist full of dollars and for

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<v Speaker 2>a few dollars more, Sir Leoni is God.

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<v Speaker 1>Once upon a time in the West.

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<v Speaker 2>Once upon a time in the West.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking Harmonica, Hello, Yeah, and how do.

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<v Speaker 2>You take and how do you take the quintessential bug guy,

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<v Speaker 2>mister mister morality Hollywood, young Abraham Lincoln, Henry Fahnda, and

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<v Speaker 2>then just make him the worst villain you ever fucking

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<v Speaker 2>saw in your life. And it's magnificent. And somewhere Harrison

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<v Speaker 2>Ford is smoking a big fat joint watching that movie

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<v Speaker 2>I was, since I since I've seen Once upon a

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<v Speaker 1>The West, since since I said the title, all I

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<v Speaker 1>can all I can picture are Henry Fonda's steely blue eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and leathery, O, leathery.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who co wrote that movie, mister Dario Argento.

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<v Speaker 1>Argento, The Seven Flies On on Gray Velvet, the Bird

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<v Speaker 1>with the Crystal plumage. If there's a wacky title, Dario's

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<v Speaker 4>And Sire of what's her name?

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<v Speaker 1>Was Asia Argento.

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<v Speaker 4>Rgento, big giant crush from two thousand and one of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>e on her she is something else entirely and yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So fine. She drove for him anymore, dame to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I'm you cannot blame her for his troubled brain.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, she's fine. Fuddy too though, absolutely nutty, but

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<v Speaker 2>like has is really rich. It's fun to take a

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive in because they have a really unique perspective

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<v Speaker 2>on cinema. Everything, like you said, it's absurd, it's dreamlike,

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<v Speaker 2>it's wacky, it's sexy, and and when the violence works,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I often wonder with comedies from other countries. Now clearly

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, heart is funny in any language, but.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder sometimes the tone of the comedy, particularly when

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<v Speaker 1>help in here in a legoran On trip, I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>Are they guffine? Are they Are they laughing out loud

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<v Speaker 1>at this humor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know. In nineteen seventy six, maybe I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like. I don't know. There's one thing I know

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<v Speaker 2>about italiabovies, and ever think any of them are funny

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this might be the same question I have

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<v Speaker 1>about most American sitcoms. Are people laughing at this, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it just like they're doing it because they

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<v Speaker 1>think it's funny or they know that that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>people think is funny. I don't know, because there are

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<v Speaker 1>some jokes that work here. Obviously we're giggling about the

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<v Speaker 1>premise more than the execution, which sure I wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>Down one gag that works really well as the guy

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<v Speaker 2>opening the bottle of champagne in the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>live action sequence he pops of champagne, or and a

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<v Speaker 4>But the editing is good, and the gag works, and

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<v Speaker 4>the gag plays.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, now, when we watched Fantasia, we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bemoaned the deems tailorness of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I was missing deams tailor watching.

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<v Speaker 1>This, you you wanted deems to come out and hit

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<v Speaker 1>you to to the to the next piece and not

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<v Speaker 1>just want to watch a ridiculous piece of comedy meant

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<v Speaker 1>for nothing and nobody and not really linking anything at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know? Do you know there's a version of

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<v Speaker 1>this film without the live action. There's there's a cut

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<v Speaker 1>where they just have sort of clay lettering telling you

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the next piece of music, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it just goes right into it. It's ten minutes shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only ten Yeah, can you believe that? No, because

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there's there's still some of it, like the

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<v Speaker 1>setup in the end, because there kind of has to

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<v Speaker 1>be the ending with because that there's so much live

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<v Speaker 1>action animation sort of interaction there at the end. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I guess my point is, or what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering is, would do you think it would have

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<v Speaker 1>played better without?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, I think so. You know a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of it is a little bit of it I think

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<v Speaker 2>would would give it some flavor, But they just went

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<v Speaker 2>overboard with it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like these gags would just go alone and

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<v Speaker 4>on and on and on. It was just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do one gag and then just move on

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<v Speaker 4>and you're fine.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't need to go this whole thing. I like,

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<v Speaker 2>there was like subplots with the waitress girl and the conductor,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't even think it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's meant to be stream of conscience, but

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<v Speaker 4>like it was making Magical Mystery Tour look like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>thirty rocks, because that's how vegans.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very unfocused and all over the place. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those those tend to be strengths in Italian films, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really fault them for that, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>fault them at all for even trying all of the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of physical comedy that's going on. I just wish

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<v Speaker 1>it was all edited by half. At least if each

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<v Speaker 1>of the segments were half their current length, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would make the point and move on. Maybe that's

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty twenty four sensibility that I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to shit already. That attitude doesn't carry over to

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<v Speaker 1>the shorts. By the way, I'm perfectly at ease letting

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<v Speaker 1>them play out as long or as short as they

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<v Speaker 1>want to be. They're they're each little pieces of wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>but this linking device we The joke to me ended

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<v Speaker 1>with We've rounded up these grannies and there are arts

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<v Speaker 1>and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of because my reaction to this was up

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<v Speaker 2>and down and like that. The live action stuff takes

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<v Speaker 2>away from it. It just kind of takes away from me.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just, man, this just reminds me of some

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<v Speaker 2>college kid and you know his production three class. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the weird one, you know, or never in the Doors

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<v Speaker 2>movie where like you know Jim Morrison's film class. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know he just makes his wacky thing and

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<v Speaker 2>just random stuff edited together and him reading poetry and

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<v Speaker 2>Hitler and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I get from it. Here's some random stuff

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<v Speaker 4>will be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And I didn't quite I agree with you about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we I think we need it just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, just just a smidge a scoche, as

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<v Speaker 1>they say, because it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't even like verbal gag, like it wasn't even dialogue

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<v Speaker 2>guys when they were all visual guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, I will say because I said when when

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<v Speaker 1>the movie began, and my friend said, it's this vicious

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<v Speaker 1>takedown of Disney, and I was like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>are you even talking about. Once they rounded the grannies up,

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<v Speaker 1>the lead character does effectively turn to the camera and say,

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<v Speaker 1>would Disney do this? And that made me, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well they kid have a bunch of grannies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but this is all just prelude. It as Fantasia

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<v Speaker 1>as it is. It really is. I'm shocked at how

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<v Speaker 1>how much it is. It's not necessarily in the same sequence.

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<v Speaker 1>It isn't an analogue. Not all of them are one.

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<v Speaker 1>For one sort of question.

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<v Speaker 4>There are moments definitely, the the Bolero with.

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<v Speaker 1>All that ballero, and the first segment definitely oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the first segment is sent to Claude Debussa's prelude.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm not it's it's basically the Fawn. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to mangle the French here. But the story we're

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<v Speaker 1>given is this one. It's it's not the right of Spring,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the dinosaur sequence from Fantasia. It's the we know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. It's all the satyrs and the we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it. They're they're sort of very gentle back andal,

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<v Speaker 1>but here we we get a satyr who is still

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<v Speaker 1>lusty and full of virility in his mind, but he

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<v Speaker 1>is an elderly one who can't find mate. And and

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically it. It's him trying to trying to snare

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, and every time he almost does so, he

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<v Speaker 1>gets a look of such menace and and and fright,

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<v Speaker 1>it's frightening. It's a frightening look.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's bad because I'm just like, you know, I'm single.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm not I'm not pretty chicken anymore. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe here's getting lighter, I can say with the eyes

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<v Speaker 2>with this morning, little fucker. But I think he's his

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<v Speaker 2>own worst enemy because maybe if he just be himself

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<v Speaker 2>one of those hot nude Italian cartoons, ldies would would

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<v Speaker 2>pay him mine. But instead he's constantly trying to change

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<v Speaker 2>his appearance and do everything to like, you know, make

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<v Speaker 2>himself look phony and younger. There's a point where he

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<v Speaker 2>looked like like Rudy Giuliani, sweating down with like his

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<v Speaker 2>hair dye sweating down his face, where he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>give him one of those stupid press conferences the last election.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah he has some helpful Woodland friends who jump in

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<v Speaker 1>and fucking make him up and yeah, make him make

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<v Speaker 1>him look attractive to the ladies and it's working. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the dummy jumps into the fucking lake. Yeah you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing SADR. I'm on you.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel bad, but I was just like, I look boobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, let's let's talk about that. The Italians are

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<v Speaker 1>not shy Italian He yeah, there's no there's no strategically

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<v Speaker 1>placed hair cascading down a female satyr's breasts in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just nude human women running around and they're free,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're hippies, and they're seen in some cases.

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<v Speaker 2>And and he just get and by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>a boob tree.

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<v Speaker 1>And like yeah, is he completely wigging out?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? And all of a sudden it's like, oh, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been walking around on a giant boom all along. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funny is with each dejection he gets smaller and

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<v Speaker 1>smaller until he effectively is is is doomed to walk

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<v Speaker 1>the geography of a woman's body. We've all been there, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all been there. I think I think I might

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<v Speaker 1>be there now. This was great. I loved this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's cute, it's cute and bite and and

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<v Speaker 1>and has that slight melancholic flavor that tends to come

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<v Speaker 1>out of Europe, even what for especially for entertainment that

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<v Speaker 1>was at least once considered just for children.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see a mastered, remastered version of it

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<v Speaker 2>because like what you know, what you can? It's available

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<v Speaker 2>just on YouTube and it looks awful, So like, I

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<v Speaker 2>really like to see those colors pop and stuff, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's gotta be brilliant because it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>so drab in the black and white sequences, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm imagining the color must be gorgeous and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, it's not. You know, it doesn't. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>their their transfer isn't great. So I love to see

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<v Speaker 2>it new.

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<v Speaker 1>I have myself have not seen a newer transfer of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I didn't watch the YouTube version of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a version of it that I digitally I

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<v Speaker 1>got a long time ago. But I have seen this

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<v Speaker 1>on the big screen with a thirty five millimeter print

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<v Speaker 1>that was dubbed, so you it was unusual to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the voice actor for the for the English language dubbed

424
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<v Speaker 1>version is doing an Italian accent. It's very disconcerted.

425
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<v Speaker 4>Hey, hello, welcome.

426
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<v Speaker 1>It's like that about like that, like what why why

427
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<v Speaker 1>don't do that. So that's the version I saw initially. Whatever,

428
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<v Speaker 1>when we're talking about let's move on to divortion and

429
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<v Speaker 1>to then divorce acts Slavonic dance number seven, Opus forty six.

430
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<v Speaker 1>This one is very brief and I okay, it's look,

431
00:23:12.440 --> 00:23:16.319
<v Speaker 1>it's very impressionistic. It's like a caveman who or a

432
00:23:16.319 --> 00:23:18.759
<v Speaker 1>cave dweller rather, because it's not really a man. It's

433
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<v Speaker 1>more of this weirdo creature who everyone in his community

434
00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:26.000
<v Speaker 1>just copies everything he does, right, Yeah, and so he

435
00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:28.160
<v Speaker 1>starts doing more and more Atlandish things than they do

436
00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 1>more and more Atlantish things. I'm sure there's some socio

437
00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:33.039
<v Speaker 1>political commentary going on here, because sure.

438
00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Because it ends up being being all fascists.

439
00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:37.039
<v Speaker 1>By the end of it, which they know a thing

440
00:23:37.119 --> 00:23:39.359
<v Speaker 1>or two about. In Italy, Yes, they know a thing

441
00:23:39.400 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 1>or two about that.

442
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<v Speaker 4>He even had an Italian red skull. At one point,

443
00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.799
<v Speaker 4>Duce No one run around calling him old duche.

444
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<v Speaker 1>They did quietly.

445
00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 4>What did you say, Duce, Yes, it looked like a

446
00:23:52.119 --> 00:23:53.960
<v Speaker 4>sesame street cartoon.

447
00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:58.319
<v Speaker 2>A little bit. What was the guy of the cup

448
00:23:58.960 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that was like animal on the glass and like the

449
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:02.839
<v Speaker 2>glass when we're on you can see the little guy

450
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 2>run around the glass.

451
00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the character's name, but I do know

452
00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:07.559
<v Speaker 1>the character you're talking about.

453
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it kind of reminded me of a

454
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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

455
00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we should point out, like Fantasia, the styles of

456
00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 1>animation change wildly from Peace to Pece, and that's very welcome,

457
00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but in no way copying any of the Disney style.

458
00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Like I say that Disney style changes from piece to piece,

459
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.599
<v Speaker 1>but did it really It just got either more realistic

460
00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 1>or more impressionistic or more sort of cartoony, but it

461
00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was still that beautiful painted style. This feels like different animators.

462
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's real and it's real, like it's not

463
00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:38.839
<v Speaker 2>super complicated or anything like that.

464
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<v Speaker 4>And you can definitely see they don't have Disney money animated.

465
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<v Speaker 2>But then you know, neither the Yellow Submarine and they

466
00:24:45.400 --> 00:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>made that in six months and for like for three

467
00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:51.759
<v Speaker 2>books in England, and that thing is a masterpiece.

468
00:24:52.119 --> 00:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, I think, well, I'm in no

469
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<v Speaker 1>way comparing the quality of the animation between them and Disney.

470
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<v Speaker 1>I think this is just as good as Disney. It's

471
00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:03.079
<v Speaker 1>a whole other thing, the whole other thing charming.

472
00:25:02.880 --> 00:25:05.559
<v Speaker 4>But it doesn't have that production value.

473
00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.799
<v Speaker 1>That Disney has right it. All of this animation feels

474
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<v Speaker 1>like Disney would have done one more pass on everything.

475
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:15.279
<v Speaker 1>They have one more layer to make it beautiful. But

476
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>part of its charm is it's sort of rough hun quality,

477
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I think, although.

478
00:25:20.519 --> 00:25:24.319
<v Speaker 4>The animation really takes a good nicely turned the bolo sequence.

479
00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Though, Oh it's it's unparalleled there, you.

480
00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, it's really nice in the bolo sequence.

481
00:25:28.960 --> 00:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And in a lot of the effects. We'll get to that. Yeah, okay,

482
00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:35.160
<v Speaker 1>so the Slavonic dance, Yes, they do become fascist basically.

483
00:25:35.200 --> 00:25:38.599
<v Speaker 1>So he starts abusing himself and they start abusing themselves,

484
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.400
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty funny because everyone loves somebody smacking themselves

485
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>in the head. But everyone he gets. He's getting angry

486
00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.759
<v Speaker 1>and angrier that they're becoming more and more like him.

487
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.960
<v Speaker 1>But then here's the thing. So then they effectively turn

488
00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:54.200
<v Speaker 1>into the army, some fascist army, and he tries to

489
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 1>lead them by jumping off a cliff, hoping they'll they will,

490
00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>like lemmings, follow him over, but then they don't. He

491
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>comes back up and then they moon him. That's the end.

492
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:05.160
<v Speaker 1>What's the.

493
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Commentary I think is that like, yeah, people will follow

494
00:26:10.559 --> 00:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the lunatic to a point. You know, they're gonna always

495
00:26:13.920 --> 00:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>come to the point where where the guys like, all right,

496
00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:16.359
<v Speaker 2>we've had this guy.

497
00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can see that. So is that a turning

498
00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 1>point for society? Hopefully they'll stop their fascistic ways, even

499
00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>though they're all mooning in Unison.

500
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:28.759
<v Speaker 2>And then and the Italy elected like was Loudi's granddaughter, so.

501
00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:31.400
<v Speaker 1>This one was.

502
00:26:32.880 --> 00:26:35.279
<v Speaker 2>All fairness. When I was in high school or something,

503
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:37.759
<v Speaker 2>they had a porn star on their in their.

504
00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Parliament, so I remember her. She was, she was magnificent. Yes,

505
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.599
<v Speaker 1>proud of Italy at that time. I'm also proud of Italy.

506
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 1>For our next segment, as you mentioned, Maurice Ravel's or

507
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>is it Morris, we used the English name English version Morris,

508
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 1>It's Revel's Balro. This is the literal centerpiece of the movie.

509
00:26:57.640 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I remembered it for some reason being the closing segment

510
00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 1>of the movie, but that just maybe because of my

511
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>familiarity with this. This is the tale of a astronaut

512
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and a bottle of Coca Cola. It begins with an

513
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>astronaut throwing a bottle of coke that still has a

514
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>bit at the bottom, and then they blast off, leaving

515
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>it there, and then we watch as the little speck

516
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>of coca cola becomes animate and then sentient and then

517
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 1>crawls out, and then we watch as life evolves in

518
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:35.480
<v Speaker 1>many varied forms from this initial bottle of coke. And

519
00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 1>because Balero is a march, you can imagine this is

520
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>a progression forward of evolution. Just this is just like

521
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:44.720
<v Speaker 1>the right of spring from Fantasia. It just they keep

522
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>going though, yes exactly, and they go in wackier ways.

523
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:54.839
<v Speaker 1>None of these creatures, these are not dinosaurs. This isn't

524
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Earth until it is.

525
00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like they're not dinosaurs until they are, and eventually

526
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:03.079
<v Speaker 2>like their wonder and then there's a building.

527
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty pretty, it's pretty magnificent.

528
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.640
<v Speaker 4>It's really nice. It was the best part of the movie.

529
00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:13.279
<v Speaker 1>The the you mentioned the animation, like it's so free,

530
00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:19.599
<v Speaker 1>it's so fluid and a morphous and still to the beat.

531
00:28:20.079 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>This must have been a fucking nightmare to have animated.

532
00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, the stuff has a use of it's kind of

533
00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:33.079
<v Speaker 2>liquidy too, you know, it's very Disney stuff is very precise.

534
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>This is more impressionistic. This is more a little flowy.

535
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:41.119
<v Speaker 1>Even splashes in a Disney movie or geometric. This feels

536
00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:44.359
<v Speaker 1>like a formless, massive.

537
00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Liquid I feel like again when I, when I, when I,

538
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.440
<v Speaker 2>when I, when I recall the animated sequences, I'm like, oh,

539
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>these are pretty good, but that live.

540
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Action just yeah right, it deadens your your enjoyment of

541
00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:57.799
<v Speaker 1>the film, right because.

542
00:28:57.599 --> 00:28:59.720
<v Speaker 4>The minute you're really laking and I'm like, oh, it's over.

543
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.960
<v Speaker 4>More animation here, I am. I'm gonna's been some blakes

544
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:03.480
<v Speaker 4>now for you.

545
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, it doesn't. It never pays to cut

546
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to vaudeville. This isn't Hell's the Poppin.

547
00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>But that those live action sequences, you know what the

548
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 2>cliches of foreign films, he always you know, the American

549
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:18.839
<v Speaker 2>cliches of what form films are like.

550
00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 1>That's it right there, kind of laid out. Yeah yeah,

551
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 1>just wackiness and obtuseness. And at the.

552
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Least they and they don't.

553
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.359
<v Speaker 2>They can't even give me some feel a red look

554
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:31.319
<v Speaker 2>alike to at least soften the blow.

555
00:29:31.680 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 1>No. Well, the villain here in the piece, it should

556
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.160
<v Speaker 1>be said, shows uping about halfway through the through the movement,

557
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a furry little gorilla who shows up separate from all

558
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the other evolution going on. Notice he's not all of

559
00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 1>the creatures, like it or not have come from that

560
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>central Co Cola bottle. This other, this other hairy mammal

561
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:56.960
<v Speaker 1>just shows up on his own and it's a fucking troublemaker.

562
00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 2>He sure is, was it? By the end of it,

563
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>he like there's a man and he's like driving a

564
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>man suit.

565
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:09.720
<v Speaker 1>It's super impressionistic. So the little ape as evolution is progressing,

566
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 1>we see him. Basically, this is so much better than

567
00:30:13.359 --> 00:30:17.319
<v Speaker 1>the Right of Spring Fantasia as far as first yeah,

568
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.079
<v Speaker 1>as a picture of actual evolution right and and the

569
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.759
<v Speaker 1>progression of time, because not only are we watching as

570
00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>life in its varied forms sort of evolves, but we

571
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:33.799
<v Speaker 1>get to watch what is effectively human civilization as it's occurring.

572
00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:39.039
<v Speaker 1>Because the little ape starts killing others for warmth. This

573
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>one's furry, I'll take that fur. This one has a shell.

574
00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I can use that as a boat. Hey, lightning lit

575
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>this on fire? What can I do with this fire?

576
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And that part is my favorite part of the of

577
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:54.359
<v Speaker 1>the entire piece. When he's he's mesmerized by his flaming torch,

578
00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>realizes its power that it can burn and just decimate

579
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.079
<v Speaker 1>anything around him. And then you'll notice he leaves again.

580
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>He all on his own. So while the rest of

581
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 1>the rest of these creatures are continuing to evolve past

582
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the pyramids, past the crucifixion cross as we get closer

583
00:31:11.920 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>and closer time. Then they run into a freeway in

584
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>a city and there's a giant man overseeing all of it.

585
00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 1>But still in this evolves human being who has created

586
00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>all this beautiful civilization. If you crack open that skull,

587
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the fucking monkeys still in there.

588
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

589
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.279
<v Speaker 4>Now is the monkey is to say, monkey running around

590
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 4>the live action?

591
00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Why bring up the live action?

592
00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

593
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.799
<v Speaker 1>It looksten First of all, it's a terrible monkey suit.

594
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>It is an awful monkey suit.

595
00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:43.039
<v Speaker 4>Is it supposed to be a gorilla or is it

596
00:31:43.039 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 4>supposed to be a guy in a right?

597
00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so poor that that's what we have to like.

598
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Is this a bit they're doing or is that supposed

599
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>to be the monkey has escaped from the previous segment.

600
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, somebody, if you notice some of the other animated

601
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.960
<v Speaker 2>characters escape from the from the cartoon, but.

602
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>They remain animated, and remain animated and in color.

603
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 4>If there's that one little guy on the paper that

604
00:32:07.480 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 4>gets burned to.

605
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>Death, ah, I'm glad you brought him up. That is

606
00:32:11.599 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a that is a senior Rossi. Bruno Bozzetto, when he

607
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>was twenty years old, created his short first film, which

608
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>was about it was the history of weapons. But soon

609
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>after created this character Senor Rossi, and he appeared in

610
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of shorts and then start in three features.

611
00:32:26.279 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 1>The reason he was able to do a leground on

612
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Tropos because he had so much success with that little character.

613
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.079
<v Speaker 1>So that's actually a cameo.

614
00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and then he's burning him.

615
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 1>He burns him up. It's really weird.

616
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fucking blessed those Italians.

617
00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Man, bless the Italians.

618
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>He got something going on with that spaghetti.

619
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.240
<v Speaker 1>And they want to make you cry, and they fucking succeed.

620
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>In our next segment, the is Jean Sibelius's Vals Trieste.

621
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>The play that the piece of music is from. Is

622
00:32:56.759 --> 00:33:01.559
<v Speaker 1>an elderly woman who rouses from late one night because

623
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>she hears music and dancing and it's this piece of music.

624
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:09.319
<v Speaker 1>And the more she dances, the more these other figures

625
00:33:09.400 --> 00:33:13.039
<v Speaker 1>appear and dance with her, and we realize at the

626
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:14.680
<v Speaker 1>end when she dances her way to the door and

627
00:33:14.680 --> 00:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>opens the door, and death is waiting for her, that

628
00:33:16.519 --> 00:33:19.480
<v Speaker 1>those are ghosts all along and now it's her time

629
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>to go. So Brindo Bazano has taken that piece of

630
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:27.279
<v Speaker 1>music with that history and said it in a demolished

631
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>house and the I'm gonna cry fucking talking about it

632
00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>and the cat that is still haunting it even though

633
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the family has gone. Could you just take it? I'm

634
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna cry.

635
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's that's what I notic is. I'm like, wow,

636
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the the animationist is really nice. You can see the

637
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.240
<v Speaker 2>rooms doing and all that stuff, and I'm just like,

638
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>this poor cat.

639
00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>The cat is antioning and it's live action, Like.

640
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, live action people walking through this cat's memory, and

641
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 2>it's just it's really heartbreaking. It's very sad. And at

642
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>the end of the demolished the whole fucking house, and

643
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 2>it's just like.

644
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:07.839
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's it's really heartbreaking because the cat is

645
00:34:08.480 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 1>living in these memories, these happy memories, and then we

646
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>keep coming back to the fucking hard meathook reality of

647
00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:19.480
<v Speaker 1>what's actually going on. And then before before the wrecking Ball,

648
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>beautifully animated wrecking Ball should be before that falls, the

649
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:30.079
<v Speaker 1>cat itself fades and disappears. Now my question to you, Antonio,

650
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>given the previous thing that this is based on, was

651
00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 1>the cat alive the whole time and we just saw

652
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>it die or was it a ghost the whole time?

653
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>And say it was a ghost, because I'm gonna feel

654
00:34:39.519 --> 00:34:40.440
<v Speaker 1>really really awful.

655
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's just an it's a psychic echo. That

656
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.760
<v Speaker 2>cat is living in a farm in dustany Okay, Yeah,

657
00:34:48.360 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>he's having white pasta.

658
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.440
<v Speaker 1>With having a good time. He's playing every day.

659
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Diane Lane moved there. She adopted the cat.

660
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Right, That's what I have to believe now, because this

661
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.480
<v Speaker 1>one tears my heart out. And here is the only

662
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>time where cutting back afterwards to the live action to

663
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.280
<v Speaker 1>me was worth it, where he cuts to all the

664
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:16.800
<v Speaker 1>old Italian grannies weeping and weeping and weeping, and suddenly

665
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 1>the first time I saw this, I was bawling like

666
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>an idiot. In fact, I was crying again here and

667
00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.320
<v Speaker 1>it feels like such a fuck you from Brazil, from

668
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Bruno brosetto cutting back to these old women, like look

669
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.519
<v Speaker 1>at you, you emotional fools. Look what we've done and

670
00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.039
<v Speaker 1>how we've manipulated you. I admire him and am mad

671
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>at him.

672
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 2>It's a very sweet sequence and it sucks it, so said.

673
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna move on to okay here, okay, this

674
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.599
<v Speaker 1>is like, this is a New Yorker cartoon kind of

675
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>we go to Vivaldi's Concerto and see in C major

676
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>this one is. Here's the animation is the is the Star.

677
00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just a female bee trying to have a picnic,

678
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to have the perfect meal, and these fucking cut

679
00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 1>shows up in her field and they're all in love.

680
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>So they're rolling around and making shit fucking tense.

681
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:12.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that was funny, but you know, like the animation

682
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 4>I liked.

683
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.320
<v Speaker 2>I liked the animation of the bee lady though. That

684
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 2>was a nice design. That was probably the most disney

685
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Esque looking piece in the whole thing.

686
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>And in contrast to it, what I took away from

687
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 1>it the couple. They're drawn. It's not watercolor, but they

688
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>are painted. But the remarkable feature there is there's no

689
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.199
<v Speaker 1>outline on them. Yeah, there's not even a hint of

690
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:35.159
<v Speaker 1>a black line there.

691
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:37.440
<v Speaker 4>No, it's really just the But maybe that's the way

692
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 4>the B season.

693
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:42.079
<v Speaker 1>It's startling that all the real world stuff doesn't have outlines.

694
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:45.280
<v Speaker 1>And and then as you said, she's really cartoony with

695
00:36:45.320 --> 00:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>a hard black line on her.

696
00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:47.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

697
00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 4>I like how the b escapes into the into the

698
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:50.719
<v Speaker 4>into the.

699
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Live action, right, but but she remains animated. So we're

700
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna close a book that that's just a fucking lunatic

701
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:06.239
<v Speaker 1>in a really bad monkey costume chasing the Okay, this

702
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.639
<v Speaker 1>is our final sequence, although it's not the final sequence

703
00:37:08.639 --> 00:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>because we're gonna get a schmorgasboard of finales immediately afterwards.

704
00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Set to Igor Stravinsky's The Firebird. Interestingly that they used

705
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 1>it infantation in two thousand as well, not saying that

706
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.199
<v Speaker 1>they've seen this movie, not that. Ward Kimball, one of

707
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the original Walt Disney animators, after seeing this movie immediately

708
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 1>started showing it to his students in his animation class

709
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.760
<v Speaker 1>as the Balero sequence, in particular, as an example of

710
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:38.199
<v Speaker 1>how you should be animating these days. Okay, so what

711
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we're given here is this one's really impressionistic. Kind of

712
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 1>it's it's the Book of Genesis, but kind of it's

713
00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>very impressionistic. It's the serpent, but the serpent is there

714
00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.760
<v Speaker 1>to tempt Adam and Eve, but then the serpent himself

715
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>becomes tempted. It's like the last temptation of Lucifer, because

716
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>all of the demons show up to offer him all

717
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:03.239
<v Speaker 1>these other things. Even though like he's doing his best

718
00:38:03.239 --> 00:38:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to get that fucking fruit with the tree from the

719
00:38:06.039 --> 00:38:08.119
<v Speaker 1>Tree of Knowledge into Adam and Eves's hands, they're just

720
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:13.280
<v Speaker 1>not going for it. Then he eats it, and oh boy, and.

721
00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, well, he's a carnivore. He shouldn't be

722
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>eating fruits and vegetables. He's gonna have a tony ache

723
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.199
<v Speaker 2>and have nightmares about demons.

724
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's just what it was.

725
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>About having pants.

726
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he grows arms and legs that eating from

727
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 1>the Tree of Knowledge. I love this segment. Honestly.

728
00:38:30.800 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really it was like trying to

729
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.519
<v Speaker 2>figure out what was going on, and you're like Evil Eye,

730
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 2>live Action hands Clan Nation and.

731
00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:43.119
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what.

732
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.440
<v Speaker 2>A twist and the guy's dog, Yeah it.

733
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Did.

734
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, I just say that's what it looked like.

735
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that's just the that's the non offensive animator

736
00:38:55.800 --> 00:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>way of drawing a dong. Just just just a little squiggle,

737
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>just a little squiggle upside hand.

738
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 2>So the the the snake gets all the temptations of man.

739
00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:13.039
<v Speaker 4>I guess like he goes through the whole human cycle.

740
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Yet tempted by money and drugs and sex and violence

741
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know, just material objects. Oh give me that

742
00:39:22.159 --> 00:39:24.000
<v Speaker 1>washing machine and by the anima.

743
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, this isn't worth it. Fuck it, and

744
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:30.159
<v Speaker 2>he like just leaves the movie, Like he gets up, slithers,

745
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.559
<v Speaker 2>takes off the man's suit, slithers off into the live action.

746
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Then on screen ntil he's like, fuck it, this movie,

747
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>this movie ends with meta. The devil ends the hero. Yeah,

748
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:44.800
<v Speaker 1>figures out God's game sucks. He's one, don't want to

749
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:45.239
<v Speaker 1>be part of it.

750
00:39:46.039 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>But I like the beta. Yeah, I like it. They're

751
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 2>not talking about it. I like it more the the

752
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 2>meta nature of the fuck this.

753
00:39:54.920 --> 00:39:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving the movie. And he gets a really very

754
00:39:57.800 --> 00:39:58.760
<v Speaker 4>very Warner Brothers.

755
00:39:59.199 --> 00:39:59.920
<v Speaker 2>It's very texting.

756
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:04.360
<v Speaker 4>So it's really like leaning into the tradition of cartoon

757
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:07.519
<v Speaker 4>absurdity when it really plays here, Yeah, there's one of

758
00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 4>the more interesting sequences.

759
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 1>But then they double down because they have to we

760
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.199
<v Speaker 1>go back to our live action. They don't have enough

761
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.800
<v Speaker 1>finale now because the fucking snake took off, and so

762
00:40:17.840 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 1>they call down to this igor like character, what's his name? Franciscini.

763
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>It's basically like a Frankenstein igor tech who is who's

764
00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:28.559
<v Speaker 1>tasked with going and finding a finale, which I love

765
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.519
<v Speaker 1>because he has to go down into the pavement where

766
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:35.920
<v Speaker 1>there's like a tiny stack stack of tiny prosceniums, and

767
00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 1>then he.

768
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.719
<v Speaker 2>Starts watching them and he's like and I'm just like, okay,

769
00:40:38.800 --> 00:40:43.239
<v Speaker 2>he's making fun of the audience now, yeah.

770
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know, okay, which he dispenses with a few

771
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 1>of them, and then he ends up on one where

772
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:53.559
<v Speaker 1>it's this like series of escalating fucking tragedies ending with

773
00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies go to for animated shorts Nuclear War,

774
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there was a lot of you know, what's so funny

775
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:06.800
<v Speaker 1>like watching it now, the casual nature and it's just

776
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 1>the sort of inevitability of nuclear war as a viable

777
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>ending to your piece. This isn't the first short film

778
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that ends with missiles flying.

779
00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean it's like, they're not the first

780
00:41:19.159 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 2>seventies movie with that just dystopian downer ending. That's like,

781
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:26.760
<v Speaker 2>that's what made a lot of those movies, seventies movies,

782
00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.960
<v Speaker 2>that parallax view ending, you know, or was there's that Simpsons?

783
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:31.880
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing No. I'm watching the science fiction

784
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.159
<v Speaker 2>movie from the seventies and it ends with the guy

785
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 2>like ripping his He's like, oh baby, I love you,

786
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:38.280
<v Speaker 2>and he takes his face off, and it's a robot.

787
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 2>It's like down pulls away. It's dystopia and it's awful.

788
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Like seventies movies.

789
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, it ends with the guy being trapped in a

790
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>little model presidium, the live action guy.

791
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.079
<v Speaker 1>That's true because then we pull back even further to

792
00:41:53.079 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 1>find that that's the case.

793
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.800
<v Speaker 4>What yeah, and and frand Justini the OAF is.

794
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Watching it were And the ending is effectively given to Satan,

795
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:05.000
<v Speaker 1>who pomps back up to just say goodbye. He returns

796
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:08.440
<v Speaker 1>to the movie at the end, literally the end. It

797
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>says happy end. It doesn't say.

798
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was a happy end.

799
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>That was just like, huh, this is what the Americans say, Yes, okay,

800
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 2>happy end.

801
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.639
<v Speaker 1>It's this is such an Italian movie.

802
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:22.360
<v Speaker 4>It is so Italian. It is so Italian.

803
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>This is as Italian, as as fantastic plant as French.

804
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, and this one this is from I don't

805
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:33.400
<v Speaker 1>know if this reminds me of that at all. I

806
00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think it does. Other than that kind of.

807
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.079
<v Speaker 2>This is distinctly a movie that only we could have

808
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:42.880
<v Speaker 2>made in this country, right, England is the only country

809
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 2>that could have made The Plague.

810
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.679
<v Speaker 1>Dogs or what was that when the wind blows that

811
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:52.159
<v Speaker 1>fucking that animated couple living in a in the aftermath

812
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 1>of a nuclear war?

813
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, have you ever seen The Plague Dogs?

814
00:42:56.119 --> 00:42:58.599
<v Speaker 1>No? I haven't, and now I kind of don't want.

815
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:03.079
<v Speaker 2>To play dogs is no, you shouldn't watch the Plane Dogs,

816
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 2>not after your reaction to the cat part.

817
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:07.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, man.

818
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.519
<v Speaker 2>It's it's a it's an animated film about dogs and

819
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.920
<v Speaker 2>escape a testing facility.

820
00:43:13.199 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, no, no, thank.

821
00:43:14.800 --> 00:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>You, And and it is the saddest movie in the

822
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:23.360
<v Speaker 2>history of mankind. Makes Water Shipped Down look like you know,

823
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Disney Romp, you know, makes a Secret and Nim look

824
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 2>like American Tale, like it's I don't know, like it's

825
00:43:30.840 --> 00:43:34.039
<v Speaker 2>it's the president to watch it. It's like, what's the

826
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.039
<v Speaker 2>one that it was a Grave of the butter but

827
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 2>Grave of the Fireflies or Barefoot gen.

828
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 4>The Aftermath of Her Broach?

829
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

830
00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I remember both of both of them.

831
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.280
<v Speaker 2>They're both of them about that.

832
00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, man, but that's good though.

833
00:43:50.679 --> 00:43:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Eric the weekend, do we we don't go that sad

834
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 2>on on on on animation over here.

835
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we don't go really on adult animation at all.

836
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:03.760
<v Speaker 2>No, we don't, although we also make Coco, so you

837
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like for all the false American

838
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>animation has, like and Disney has, they still make Cocoa.

839
00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:13.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, no, not complaining about the what we're what

840
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 1>we're good at, but maybe we can be good at

841
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:16.559
<v Speaker 1>other things too.

842
00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 2>We can be good at other things though, I'd like

843
00:44:19.000 --> 00:44:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I'd really like to see hand drawn two D animation again.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's sad that, like when now, even when

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<v Speaker 2>it's done, you can tell how cheap it is. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesson, this movie was precient. Now it really is just

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<v Speaker 1>one guy chained to a desk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Really, what did I just watch which was pretty good?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that Zack Snyder's Norse. Yeah, God, it's very Zack snydery.

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<v Speaker 2>His craziness works better than animation. But the animation, while

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<v Speaker 2>stylistic and pretty and all that stuff, you can tell that,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this is done now and after effects, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, they're rigging an attuny model and animating that rather

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<v Speaker 2>than drawing twenty four frames a second and stuff. So,

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<v Speaker 2>and like some of the recent DC animated films are

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<v Speaker 2>done in that same kind of rigged animated, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>rigged after Finn style.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not quite three D, but it's not to

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<v Speaker 4>those off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it worked the the rigged the they used

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<v Speaker 2>three D models and cell shaded on that blue eyed

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<v Speaker 2>Samurai and that looks beautiful cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to watch that. People to watch that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the it's in my queue, dude, there's so much.

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<v Speaker 2>To watch it, and we're gonna go, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>this movie I'm you know, get through, and I think

870
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<v Speaker 2>most of it had to do with that live action

871
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<v Speaker 2>just takes you out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, literally takes you out of it. It's yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really distracting. So I mean, I do want them to

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<v Speaker 1>restore this film and put it out in the best

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<v Speaker 1>possible way, but I also want both versions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's one thing can be said about about Fantasia

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<v Speaker 2>is that, Yeah, the dems, Taylor and guy this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in there. But their cutter he cut that movie. They

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<v Speaker 2>or she cut that movie. They cut that movie and

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<v Speaker 2>they kept the pace going. Yeah, the guys came out

881
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<v Speaker 2>and talked, but that thing was never you know, Demes

882
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<v Speaker 2>was never on screen for more than thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>I was never bored by Dames. I was annoyed that

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't just flowing into the next animation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I wasn't bored by him.

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<v Speaker 2>No, this true god wackiness was just like I should

887
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<v Speaker 2>have left it, should have left it on the should

888
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 2>have left it at home. Man. But it's neat to

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<v Speaker 2>see animation from other countries and see how they interpret stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Italian comics are really nice, really pretty too,

891
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:41.320
<v Speaker 2>like Italian comic books.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and what's the other that draws all the sexy women?

893
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh manara Ah, you draw those really sexy books. And

894
00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:52.519
<v Speaker 2>there was all Dylan Dogg there's another comic. And there's

895
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cool comics from Italy that I just

896
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<v Speaker 2>think the art is just well Man's spectacular.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago I read all of the

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<v Speaker 1>Diabolic comp for me. Yeah, man, so good. Those those

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00:47:04.960 --> 00:47:10.760
<v Speaker 1>were those comics. He's really amoral in those those early yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before he becomes mister Robinhood, he's he's just wasting people

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00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 1>for no reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Hollywood hasn't jumped on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope they don't, because there's no way you can

904
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<v Speaker 1>recreate the gorgeous cinematic triumph that is danger Diabolic, directed

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<v Speaker 1>by Mario Baba, my favorite Italian filmmaker by the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I've never seen it.

907
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<v Speaker 2>Ah no, I've never seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you're in for a fucking treaty.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's a good one too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, recommended me to watch me that. Yeah, I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you can't, I will, I will provide it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. I am that movie. I mean, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my really cool Oh my god, he's so

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<v Speaker 1>good in it, fucking John Phillip law Now I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch I gotta go watch that now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well this was a good one. This was a

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<v Speaker 2>unique a unique picture, man, definitely was and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>nice counterpoint to the Fantasia.

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<v Speaker 1>It was. And yeah, I'm glad we did it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna skip it. And then you were like insistent.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you were because you mentioned it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well, there's an Italian vantation.

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<v Speaker 2>I watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, this was had a nice you know blapasta

927
00:48:20.119 --> 00:48:22.559
<v Speaker 1>with me. Yeah, this one, this one flows along, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I highly recommend this movie. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be annoyed by the by the comedy bits, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can find it on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just skip through those guys exactly. Even if

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<v Speaker 1>you had a physical disc, the fast forward button is there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to thank you all for joining us

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<v Speaker 1>here on midnight viewing anthologiess attack. Until next time. Where

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<v Speaker 1>can people find you if they're looking for you, mister Lapoor.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can find us at Space detectivemovie dot com

937
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<v Speaker 2>and Swamp dot com and keep an eye out for

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<v Speaker 2>a local film festival or a new movie at Living

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<v Speaker 2>Ben has just entered. The film festival runs and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be having a preson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll be keeping you updated on all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to find me, well, you're listening to

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00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:07.599
<v Speaker 1>the show that I mainly do. I'm all I sometimes

944
00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:10.320
<v Speaker 1>guest over on culture Cast. Did that a lot this

945
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<v Speaker 1>past month. Go check out those I programmed the month. Actually,

946
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<v Speaker 1>Also you can hear me over on night mister Walter

947
00:49:16.239 --> 00:49:19.599
<v Speaker 1>is the Taxi podcast I do with co host HP

948
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.440
<v Speaker 1>who does the music for this show. If you want

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00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:24.559
<v Speaker 1>to support us, head on over to Patreon dot com

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<v Speaker 1>slash follom alone subscribers get episodes early and commercial free,

951
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:30.239
<v Speaker 1>and we are cooking up a whole bunch of Patreon

952
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<v Speaker 1>only bonus episodes that are gonna be really super fucking cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So check that out. And if money's tight, and god

954
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<v Speaker 1>knows it is for all of us, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>us a massive favor by just giving us a five

956
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<v Speaker 1>star review on Apple Podcasts, or at the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell your friends until next time. I still haven't

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<v Speaker 1>figured out a line here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, until next time. You know, keep your anthologies attacking,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Exist sis sis sis s
