WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:01.639 Oh better that are. 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:33.119 Mm hmmm, Trigger Warner. 3 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:37.719 This podcast may include explicit content that will take you 4 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.479 out of your comfort zone and make you question reality. 5 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.799 Listener's discretion is advised. 6 00:00:59.759 --> 00:01:00.000 Hmm. 7 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:10.760 Hello, and welcome back to the show. This is the 8 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:17.040 fourth and final installment of Into the Cultiverse, featuring Me 9 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:22.120 your Favorite Podcast Forever and Colby How are you? Colby? 10 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.319 How do you know their favorite? 11 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:27.680 Because they've listened to all four parts of the culti 12 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:35.719 Verse so far, but maybe you're their favorite. There will 13 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:40.640 be a bonus episode of Into the Cultiverse available on 14 00:01:40.760 --> 00:01:45.560 Cosmic Peach Patreon only, not next week but the week after, 15 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:49.640 and it's gonna be full of all kinds of fun stuff. 16 00:01:50.200 --> 00:01:54.680 But today I'm actually kind of excited because I was 17 00:01:54.799 --> 00:01:57.920 going to cover a cult that I had talked about 18 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.239 in the past a little bit, but Colby decided to 19 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:04.840 change his cult, and then he was talking to me 20 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:08.800 about two cults that he was in between, and I 21 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:11.800 thought both of them were so interesting that they should 22 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:15.719 both be covered, so I changed mine as well. I'm 23 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.639 not going first today. You're up, Smalls, But I mean, 24 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.919 are you excited for this last episode? 25 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.080 Excited as I ever have been? 26 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:31.000 So Yes, so technically yes, I'm actually kind of ready 27 00:02:31.039 --> 00:02:34.000 to be done talking about cults because the more cults 28 00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.840 that I look into, the less faith I have in humanity. 29 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:40.919 What if you want to start a cult that should 30 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:41.840 give you more faith. 31 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.000 I don't want to start a cult. 32 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:45.639 Maybe we should. 33 00:02:46.439 --> 00:02:49.120 What would it be called cosmic cult? 34 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:51.479 It's probably already taken. 35 00:02:51.960 --> 00:02:55.599 Probably. Did you know that there's a monster drink that's 36 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.319 called cosmic peach. The flavor is called cosmic peach. 37 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:04.479 No, but there's a cider, a drink that does cosmic 38 00:03:04.520 --> 00:03:08.560 fruits and their Imperial ciders, so like nine percent alcohol. 39 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:10.960 I think it's two towns. 40 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:12.759 They don't have a cosmic peach. 41 00:03:12.879 --> 00:03:16.439 You have a cosmic pair. Hey, cosmic paar. 42 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:17.719 Didn't somebody call you that? 43 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:21.439 Yeah? Someone in the comments said mister and missus. 44 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:26.240 Cosmic peach and cosmic pear, right, something like that. See, 45 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:29.199 we read your comments. You don't think we do, but 46 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:29.719 we do. 47 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:35.080 Sometimes they just pop up automatically on Spotify. But I 48 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:35.680 have seen a. 49 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:40.360 Few, and overwhelmingly positive or negative. 50 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.680 That's probably overwhelmed overwhelmingly positive. You're never going to get 51 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:52.039 one hundred percent positive. Most people who make comments are haters. Anyway. Oh, 52 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.360 some of them are a lot apparently. 53 00:03:54.639 --> 00:03:57.919 Those of you who have left positive comments, thank you. 54 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:02.080 We appreciate this poet as always. 55 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:05.639 I appreciate the negative comments just as much. Well, I 56 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:06.520 don't keep those. 57 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:11.400 I don't want to come on, I'm not reading them anyways, 58 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:16.079 the negative ones. But do you have anything you wanted 59 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:18.839 to wrap up from the last episode? 60 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.720 It almost seems like there's something that I didn't say 61 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:22.480 that I wanted to. 62 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:27.199 I watched it again today, our last episode. 63 00:04:28.600 --> 00:04:29.680 I remember what we were. 64 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.759 What do you mean, you know, like children of God, 65 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:38.240 Children of God and I did the Movement for the 66 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:44.759 Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God. Joseph Kibba with Terry. Oh, 67 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.079 that's something I was gonna say. We met some new 68 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:54.319 friends over the weekend and you were telling them about 69 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:58.399 our new show, and you were hyping up the movement 70 00:04:58.519 --> 00:05:01.519 of the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God. I 71 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:02.879 think it's grown on you. 72 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.079 How did I hype them up? 73 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.519 Because you were like, oh, yeah, it was so crazy 74 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.959 because it was very programmed to kill esque and like 75 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.199 they had all these bodies buried all over these different 76 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:18.000 people's properties and shit, and like, so has it grown 77 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:18.680 on you or not. 78 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:20.839 I gave it a ten out of ten. 79 00:05:21.600 --> 00:05:25.920 That was only after I was whining and complaining. Though. 80 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.079 Maybe that's why I talked up your cult. You're gonna 81 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:31.160 do some math here. 82 00:05:31.720 --> 00:05:34.879 Just sympathy, that's all. That was just sympathy. 83 00:05:35.839 --> 00:05:39.839 I think that it's a cool story, okay, but as 84 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:43.959 a cult, I thought we were reading like one out 85 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.279 of ten of like where it stands on? Like what 86 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:52.399 the cults that you think are the most crazy or intriguing? 87 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.240 I don't know. Yeah, so I know that you thought 88 00:05:55.800 --> 00:06:02.079 I was giving your presentation a little performance. Always get elevens, babe, Well, I. 89 00:06:01.959 --> 00:06:06.240 Always take everything to personally. You know that I watched 90 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:11.199 back the Shut Up. I watched back the first and 91 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:15.560 second episode two. Uh, just you know, seeing how far 92 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.560 we've come in our journey. And I have not been 93 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:23.639 rating them, remember I said that, because you were like, 94 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.000 have you been rating them? And I was like, yeah, 95 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.199 I've been writing them. I think I only rated one 96 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:31.399 of them. I haven't been rating all of them. I've 97 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:35.160 been asking you to rate your own colts even and 98 00:06:35.279 --> 00:06:40.759 I don't say anything, but I'm so excited for the 99 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.839 cult that you decided not to cover. And I did, 100 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:46.839 because you might actually be sorry you didn't pick this one. 101 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:47.800 It's so crazy. 102 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:51.759 Well, I had started looking into it already, but I 103 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:54.279 was finding the other one that what I'm about to do. 104 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:58.759 I mean, they're both very interesting in the fact that 105 00:06:58.839 --> 00:07:06.920 they are modern and all these other cults they have 106 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:12.480 similar elements and their old school ideas mixed with alien shit. 107 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:14.199 Uh huh. 108 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:16.680 And I didn't at first glance. I didn't think that 109 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.319 my cult had anything to do with alien shit, but 110 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:23.120 there is a little bit, and uh, it's hard to 111 00:07:23.199 --> 00:07:26.759 escape that. But anyway, these two cults are very modern 112 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:30.199 and maybe even say transgender. 113 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.759 Oh my god, color me curious. 114 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:36.439 Well, I know yours has some of that, right, and 115 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:37.839 so does mine. 116 00:07:38.079 --> 00:07:42.560 It makes me want to reference that Saturday Night Live 117 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:47.759 episode my friends called me Whiskers because I'm curious like 118 00:07:47.839 --> 00:07:48.519 a cat. 119 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.720 I didn't know where you're going with this, but. 120 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.680 No, I am curious so real, So I guess you're 121 00:07:57.800 --> 00:08:01.120 up small unless you have anything else you wanted to add. 122 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:06.279 Oh not really, Oh, do you. 123 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:09.240 Want to tell everyone about my hot new haircut? Those 124 00:08:09.279 --> 00:08:11.519 of the listeners who can't see it. 125 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:14.480 Julia got a hot new haircut, and it. 126 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:16.399 Really turns him on. He said he felt it in 127 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:20.240 his beehole the first time he saw its shock waves. 128 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:21.639 That's exactly what I said. 129 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.959 Yes, it's actually not looking too hot right now because 130 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.519 I didn't wash my hair today. But you know who 131 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:30.399 has time for that When you're researching cults. 132 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:32.559 You could have just shaved your head if you were 133 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:33.679 committed to the cause. 134 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:42.440 I'm not going full on Manson family Sinnnon. There you go, Cinnemon, Ready. 135 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:48.360 You set go. This week I will be talking about 136 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:54.639 the Church of Euthanasia Dun Dun Dun, And I really 137 00:08:54.639 --> 00:08:56.519 I don't know. I was kind of surprised I hadn't 138 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:00.720 heard about these people, but I the more I looked 139 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:03.720 into it, I think I did come across it. So 140 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:05.840 we can just dive right in. I would say that 141 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.799 this would have been good in the nineties episode too. 142 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:10.799 Oh it's a nineties thing. 143 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:17.080 It is. It's mostly nineties and apparently they disbanded for 144 00:09:17.799 --> 00:09:20.440 a period of time, but it sounds like they are 145 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:25.960 active once again. And one of the more intriguing things 146 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:29.840 about this cult is, you know, you dig deep enough, 147 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:32.799 you could always find reasons to think that there's intelligence 148 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:36.799 ties to what's going on. But this one's undeniable that 149 00:09:36.879 --> 00:09:43.039 this guy was pushed forward by government, and kind of 150 00:09:43.919 --> 00:09:46.360 when I lay out what this cult believes a lot 151 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:49.440 of you will make ties to certain elitist people who 152 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:52.120 have very similar pillars. 153 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:53.559 Doctor Kevorkian. 154 00:09:54.279 --> 00:09:58.679 Doctor Koborkian was a saint compared to these guys. No, 155 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.000 he was ordained as a saint in the Church of euthanasia. 156 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:08.679 You know who else was? All right, Margaret fucking Sanger. 157 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:13.000 In Asias and like what you do to cripple old 158 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:15.080 dogs and cats. 159 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.639 Or yeah, and Kavorkian was doing it to people. Now, 160 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:21.960 let's just get this clear. I am not against people 161 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:29.559 killing themselves if you're fucking in pain mentally physically. You know, 162 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:32.600 we do have right to die in Oregon. But it's more, 163 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.639 you know, it's fixated around, you know, Christ terminal deaths, 164 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:44.759 like cancer, cancer, stage four cancers Canada, you can just 165 00:10:44.759 --> 00:10:47.240 have a fucking ereache and the governmental comput you out 166 00:10:47.240 --> 00:10:47.759 of your misery. 167 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.240 So in Oregon, if you're like terminal cancer, you can 168 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:53.679 say euthanize me and they'll do it. 169 00:10:54.039 --> 00:10:56.240 Yeah, you used to have to fly to like parts 170 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:02.279 of Europe. I think Sweden had it before we did. 171 00:11:02.200 --> 00:11:05.559 Well, Oregon's just ahead of the curve on everything, isn't it. 172 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:07.759 Yeah? And I don't know, I don't think we're the 173 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:11.879 only state. I could be wrong about California. Maybe, well 174 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:18.399 California helps the drug addicts do it. But anyway, uh, 175 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:25.519 I think a brief overview of the founder could be 176 00:11:25.519 --> 00:11:31.600 better summed up by seeing this person named Chris Korda. 177 00:11:32.519 --> 00:11:36.039 So we're going to talk about everything with the foundation 178 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.279 of this shit. But first we're going to watch an 179 00:11:39.360 --> 00:11:42.759 episode of Jerry Springer. And we're only going to watch 180 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:46.039 a few minutes of it, but we're going to watch 181 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:51.759 Think it's on my birthday, August eleventh of nineteen ninety seven, 182 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:55.120 there was an episode on Jerry Springer. So they founded 183 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.679 in ninety two, So this is going to be about 184 00:11:57.720 --> 00:11:59.320 five years into. 185 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:01.519 The church in Asia. 186 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:03.840 Yes, what would you do? 187 00:12:04.039 --> 00:12:06.320 What would you do if the person you love told 188 00:12:06.360 --> 00:12:11.519 you that they wanted to join a cult that supports suicide, cannibalism, 189 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.240 and even eating the flesh of aborted babies. Well, in 190 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:18.240 a moment, we're going to meet a woman who actually 191 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:21.679 says she wants to join this cult. But first let's 192 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.879 meet the founders. Reverend Chris Carter, Pastor Kim and vermin x. 193 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:38.240 That's this ministry. 194 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.039 Give me four things that you believe in. What are 195 00:12:41.080 --> 00:12:42.799 the basic tenets of your philosophy. 196 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:44.399 We're gonna we're gonna get to the four pillars of 197 00:12:44.440 --> 00:12:48.960 the church. Ethanasia. You already know what they are. They're suicide, abortion, asomy. 198 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:49.559 Wait sac say that again. 199 00:12:49.679 --> 00:12:54.679 Suicide abortion, And we're gonna every one of them. 200 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:55.919 And this is a faith. 201 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:58.360 This is this is this is an organized religion. 202 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.200 And this has to do with iron, Yes it does, 203 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:04.679 and we're gonna explain it is recycling cans. You're talking 204 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:05.600 about suicide. 205 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:07.200 It's funny. 206 00:13:09.960 --> 00:13:11.159 Why is it necessary? 207 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:11.360 Then? 208 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:13.720 But why is it necessary? You don't want to hurt 209 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:16.320 the animals? I appreciate that, But why is it necessary 210 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.039 to fulfill your belief that people have to commit suicide 211 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:22.320 or human beings have to go around eating each other? 212 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:24.679 Here's the cannibalism. Why is that necessary? If you don't 213 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:27.000 want to kill this, don't kill animals, but don't kill people? 214 00:13:32.279 --> 00:13:33.279 Why on? 215 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:33.879 Hold on? 216 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:36.799 Why did I bring up the veal cow? Because humans 217 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:40.879 are cruel to animals? No, because humans are animals. That's 218 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.120 what this is about. If we sit you down at 219 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:45.919 a table and put pig flesh and human flesh in 220 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.320 front of you and blindfolds you. You won't be able 221 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:50.759 to tell the difference because flesh is flesh. 222 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:51.639 Why don't you think. 223 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.000 About that the next time you bite into your cheeseburger. 224 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:58.879 We're talking about a massive system of cruelty. 225 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:01.799 Monstress, you make the blindfold challenge. 226 00:14:01.960 --> 00:14:04.120 Take the blindfold challenge. You won't be able to tell 227 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:05.159 the difference. 228 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:10.440 Your face. 229 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.559 What's that a toad on a crucifix? 230 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:19.960 Fetus? I think so? 231 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:22.600 So I don't want to know anything about this. 232 00:14:22.559 --> 00:14:24.600 Cult, Yes you do. 233 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:25.440 I don't. 234 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:28.679 What did you notice about Chris Kuerda right off the bat? 235 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.120 Well, he's a tryinny. 236 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.519 Well, it's funny because whenever I was listening to or 237 00:14:36.559 --> 00:14:41.960 reading coverage of this cult, every buddy referred to Chris 238 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:46.759 as a she. That's your choice. I don't know how 239 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:48.519 I'm going to be at the pronoun game here. 240 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:50.759 So we're going Chris is a man? 241 00:14:52.200 --> 00:14:53.240 Is a trans woman? 242 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:55.639 Has he had surgery? 243 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:56.919 No? 244 00:14:57.320 --> 00:14:58.799 And then he's a man. 245 00:14:59.279 --> 00:15:03.639 He's kind of back and forth. Did the Demi Levado thing, like, oh, 246 00:15:03.720 --> 00:15:06.519 breaking news. I no longer use ay them's. I'm back 247 00:15:06.559 --> 00:15:12.480 to she her, so he's kind of waffled and dashed 248 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:18.919 around the board of the transgender thing. So to understand 249 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.480 more about this organization, we'll start with Chris Corrida. Chris 250 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.679 was born in New York City in nineteen sixty two 251 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:34.080 to very wealthy parents. I don't remember if his dad 252 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:37.000 was in finance or media, but he was kind of 253 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:41.960 a successful motherfucker, and his mom was an aspiring actress, 254 00:15:42.320 --> 00:15:43.919 and they were pretty wealthy. 255 00:15:44.960 --> 00:15:50.039 So it's always the wealthy ones that cut their penises off. 256 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:56.960 By Chris's own account, at the age of ten, his 257 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.440 life was changed when he read a New York Times article. 258 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:04.159 So he was born in nineteen sixty two, so this 259 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:07.039 would have been the early seventies, and it was a 260 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:12.559 New York Times headline that was very climate alarmist, which 261 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:16.440 in seventy two, I mean I remember they were. I 262 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:19.080 mean I wasn't alive in the seventies, but people who 263 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:21.039 were tell me, you know the shit they're saying about 264 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:23.879 global warming and climate change. Now, back when I was 265 00:16:23.919 --> 00:16:27.600 a kid in seventies, it was an ice age is coming. 266 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:32.440 You ever heard that? Yeah, there's an even a video 267 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:37.519 of Leonard Nimoy doing some science special talking about the 268 00:16:37.519 --> 00:16:39.960 coming ice Age, and that was in the seventies. But anyway, 269 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:48.840 Chris was really worried about all that stuff, and it 270 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:54.080 kind of spills over into his overlook on life and 271 00:16:54.759 --> 00:16:58.159 our role as people on the planet. And I'm going 272 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.840 to be straightforward and say that if I knew about 273 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:07.279 this group and the I don't know two thousands that 274 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:10.559 when I was maybe in my twenties, I probably would 275 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.079 have been on board with a lot of this shit. 276 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:16.680 Oh like, it's. 277 00:17:16.640 --> 00:17:21.599 Clarify what parts you're on the abortion, the cannibalism, or 278 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.200 the what were the four tenants? Again? 279 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:31.559 So the four pillars are suicide, no, But the reason 280 00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:33.440 for what they were doing and the way they went 281 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:38.640 about doing it is very I don't know, like almost no. 282 00:17:38.759 --> 00:17:41.000 So we'll get to the four pillars, but it's almost 283 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:45.359 like Project Mayhem. And even Chris, when you listen to 284 00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.759 interviews that he's done in recent years, he talks about 285 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:53.440 how they were culture jamming, which you know, are you 286 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.519 familiar with that term? Culture jamming is like when you 287 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:01.839 insert yourself in a performative way that big public events 288 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:05.279 and it's almost like a troll, like you know who 289 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.440 Alex Stein is that guy that always goes to like 290 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:10.000 city council meetings. 291 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:12.640 Does he have a fetus on a crucifix? 292 00:18:12.880 --> 00:18:15.920 Well, he's a comedian, he's gotten big. He always had 293 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.039 a conspiracy podcast, Alex Stein, I'll show you. I'm sure 294 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:21.319 you would know who he is. But anyway, what he 295 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:23.839 was doing at city council meetings, that's just an example 296 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.559 of culture jamming. Now these guys took it to a 297 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:28.599 whole new level and we'll get into some of that, 298 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:33.720 but just a little brief history. Chris was an aspiring artist. 299 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:41.000 He actually has a pretty immersive music catalog in techno music, 300 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.960 and they have I you know, I listened to a 301 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.960 lot of it, and I won't sure you did, but 302 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.519 I did. I listened to about four or five songs 303 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.119 and it's techno and it's really. 304 00:18:54.720 --> 00:18:55.839 Even like techno. 305 00:18:56.119 --> 00:18:59.200 No, I don't, but doing the research, you'd want to 306 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:02.279 at least like look at it. Sure, so I'm gonna 307 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:03.160 put it on a playlist. 308 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.759 Cute, your infant cute. 309 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.960 That is not even an exaggeration of like shut up, 310 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:18.480 if you went, if he went and listened to all 311 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:23.160 his songs, I guarantee you that would have a ninety 312 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:24.599 percent chance of being in there. 313 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.799 Your neighbor, eat, eat your neighbor. 314 00:19:31.319 --> 00:19:35.200 That's Alex Jones, look at my neighbor's ass right now, 315 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:41.480 just thinking I'm a part into it anyway. God, this 316 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.160 one for me is like the history of it is 317 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:50.759 worthy of just a brief overview. So this artist tortured Soul, 318 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:56.440 comes out as transgender in college, disowns his parents because 319 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.400 of their excessive lifestyle. He had a you know, stick 320 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:08.400 up his ass over capitalism, uh, industry, and he decides 321 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.319 to start a movement. Now, if you ask him why 322 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:15.359 he decided to start a movement, he had a dream 323 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.279 one night and in the dream, some form of alien 324 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.759 that he calls the bean spoke to him. And what 325 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:27.359 the being said was. 326 00:20:28.599 --> 00:20:35.839 Eat your neighbor, eat, eat your neighbor. You then asia youth, youth, 327 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:53.000 the asia. Oh, he brings a whole new meaning to 328 00:20:53.160 --> 00:20:53.920 eating ass. 329 00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:57.319 I can't find exactly what the being said, I had 330 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:00.319 it pulled up earlier, but I compare a phrase here. 331 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:04.000 In the dream, the being told Chris that it was 332 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:10.799 an alien viewing Earth from a neighboring dimension and that 333 00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:13.920 it was just the same spiel that you hear a 334 00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.119 lot of these people talk about the alien asked why 335 00:21:17.160 --> 00:21:19.559 do we trust our leaders that are just leading us 336 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:24.200 into this industrial mayhem, and that we were not going 337 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:28.599 to be able to sustain as a species. And the 338 00:21:28.680 --> 00:21:32.799 conversation went on. But he woke up mumbling to himself, 339 00:21:34.039 --> 00:21:39.000 saved the planet, kill yourself, and that became the slogan 340 00:21:39.400 --> 00:21:42.440 of the Church of Euthanasia. And so at the time 341 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:44.119 Chris was. 342 00:21:44.200 --> 00:21:47.960 Rudy, why didn't you start with himself? 343 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:51.400 Well, a lot of people ask why are you still alive? 344 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:53.799 And so, yeah, valid question. 345 00:21:54.759 --> 00:21:58.440 Oh he doesn't have an answer for that. He does 346 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:00.960 save the planet, kill you yourself, but not me. 347 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:04.400 He's been quoting as saying everybody should kill himself when 348 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:06.839 they feel like it, and if I feel like it, 349 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:08.839 I'll do it, and that's my business. 350 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:13.240 I guess that's an answer. Sure, you think Kurt Cobain 351 00:22:13.400 --> 00:22:16.519 was a member, he said this was all the nineties. 352 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:19.400 Rage you think Kirk Cobain was a member of the 353 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:20.759 Church of Euthanasia? 354 00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:25.920 No, okay, do we think Kirk killed himself? 355 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.480 Maybe in another timeline that's why he did. 356 00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:34.680 It, all right. So, at the time that he had 357 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.759 this dream, he was living with this guy who was 358 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.519 I don't remember his first name. His last name's kim Bert, 359 00:22:43.720 --> 00:22:46.920 and he ended up going by Pastor kim He was 360 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:50.319 in that Jerry Springer clip. He was the dude in 361 00:22:50.359 --> 00:22:53.240 the middle with the cross and. 362 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:58.519 What I'm just listening about this cold. 363 00:22:58.400 --> 00:23:03.759 He is killing me. So he was an activist from 364 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:08.480 the nineteen sixties, you know, anti war stuff, quite a protester, 365 00:23:09.200 --> 00:23:12.079 and he was said to have had a pretty big 366 00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:16.960 influence on the way Chris viewed the world. So they 367 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.119 ended up launching this thing together in nineteen ninety two. 368 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.079 Some of the interviews I've listened to with Chris, he 369 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:25.400 says it's as far back as ninety one that it 370 00:23:25.440 --> 00:23:29.960 was an official religion, but everything points to nineteen ninety two. 371 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:34.039 And the way that they went about getting some attention 372 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:39.839 was they would go to large public events. They would 373 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:43.200 go to protests and counter protest. They would go anywhere, 374 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.680 like I think one of their first big ones was 375 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:50.160 a KKK rally, and they went as anti protesters, but 376 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.079 they always had their signs that say that had the 377 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:58.720 slogans like save the planet, kill yourself. I mean, as 378 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.240 this thing progresses, they just get weirder. One of them 379 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:08.039 was Eat, a queer fetus for Jesus. 380 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:10.680 Why does it have to be a queer. 381 00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:16.720 One because it gets more attention, I would suspect. But 382 00:24:18.359 --> 00:24:21.759 one of the first things that got major attention was 383 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:27.240 a pro life rally and they showed up and they 384 00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:34.200 had like doll heads on pikes with like bloody heads. 385 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.799 And it just. 386 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.799 Makes me feel like this cult got started for the 387 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:45.039 one purpose of just fear sensationalism. 388 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.319 Well, and it is. And while we're on that subject, 389 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:51.240 and then we'll get into the four pillars. There's an 390 00:24:51.359 --> 00:24:59.279 art movement that's called Dada and some people pronounce it data. 391 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:05.680 I think it's Dada, Dada da da ar da da. 392 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:10.240 Dadism was an anti art, anti war movement. They emerged 393 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:14.599 in Switzerland in nineteen sixty during World War One. It 394 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.039 was a reaction against the perceived madness and absurdity of war, 395 00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:24.200 challenging traditional artistic values and embracing chants, absurdity, and nonsense. 396 00:25:24.799 --> 00:25:29.920 Data artists used various media, including collage, photo montage, and 397 00:25:30.039 --> 00:25:32.680 ready mades to question the meaning of art and its 398 00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:37.400 role in society. And a lot of this stuff morphed 399 00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:43.799 into like performance art, like Marina Abramovich type shit or 400 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:47.960 just street performers in general, but they really keened in 401 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:52.440