Speaker 1: Made a decans John pays Sunny Sun on. I hadasion.
Speaker 2: Nat.
Speaker 1: What what's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to forguring out loud. It's Friday show.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, and we're here your girls, Lynette, Stephanie,
Stephanie and Lynette.
Speaker 3: Yep. I you were asking if, like we had some
stuff to talk about, yep. And I was thinking that,
you know, this is going to be one of my
few back to school I mean, you've got we've got
back to school college kids, but that's that's gonna be
our first time doing that. Yes, but I still have
my repeat back to high school.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting because today, after I get home, I'm
going to take Sadie to the mall to do a
little like back to school shopping, which is kind of rare,
right because most of the time the kids just get
their own stuff and just buy stuff online.
Speaker 1: But Sadie says, Mom, I need some.
Speaker 3: New pants and I need some new shirts, so like,
can you take me shopping? Which like hell yeah, yeah,
hell yeah yeah. Like that's fun.
Speaker 2: It's fun to get invited to the mall by your kids.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna miss that. I don't get invited
that much anymore now that she makes her own money, right,
you know, Sonny doesn't go to the mall unless he
see one of the movies.
Speaker 3: And Sander buys a lot of his stuff online. He
just sees something that he wants and then he buys it,
and he gets a lot of you stuff too. I'll
go to like Poshmark or Big or Deep Deep Hoop
I think it's called.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they'll also go to the thrift stores around. Yes,
my kids also do a lot of thrifting.
Speaker 3: Sonny.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think what he wears, Like, I'll go
to Target and buy him like cool shirts and then
he'll just wear that all the time, buy some shorts
and he's done. Like he just he just doesn't care
really about what. And Italian you know, keeps telling him like,
you know, you need to have some swag, you know,
or like have some you know, get some genesi qua
going with your outfits, you know, and he's just like, nah,
I'm fine, I'm good.
Speaker 2: I'm good. I got my you know a bunch of
my T shirts and my shorts and that's it.
Speaker 3: Xander is very fashionable, yea friends A lot of his
friends are like that too, But remember that Xander's been
like that since he was like eight. Yeah. Once he
was living his true life, he was all about like
you know, he used to not care at all, and
then all of a sudden it was like, oh, I
need started with those sort of polyurethane hoodies with that
said Puma.
Speaker 2: Or Sonney too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's where I would start it. Remember that
he was like, I need brand new ones, you know,
and then I was like, okay, I bottom on eBay.
He didn't notice none the wiser. But now he's very
like Pacsun Urban Outfitters, Like he has to have like
new T shirts. They have to be a certain size,
the way they fit, and then I cannot put anything
like in the dryer.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you don't want to shrink them? No, no, no,
now they need to be fresh to death, right.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The problem is so ever, since I got a new
washing machine, the things come out of the washing machine
really wrinkled because I got a top loader instead of
a front loader, which you don't realize makes a big
difference because stuff gets like twisted around.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But on the plus side, there's no mold building
up anymore in the front loaders. They have that rubber
thing that coats the door, and that thing was like moldy.
It was disgusting. Nothing would clean it out properly. When
it broke and I needed a new one, I was like,
I'm doing the top loader. Little did I know I
was going to be dealing with a lot of wrinkles
and stuff. Now, you can put stuff in the dryer
for like ten minutes and it loosens all the wrinkles out.
But the problem is for me, how often are you
like I can't even stand in front of my microwave
and wait for one minute to take something.
Speaker 2: Like ten minutes, I'm off and don't forget, and then
I forget it. And then they sit in the dry
and get wrinkled again.
Speaker 3: Well, or they don't, they don't, or they overdry and
then they shrink because there's no setting that's just for
ten minutes. They don't.
Speaker 1: You don't have like an air dry one that's just
kind of air.
Speaker 3: So it's not hot heat I do.
Speaker 2: It's just I feel like it adds it doesn't do
any depths to Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I guess I could try the air dry, But then,
like you said, then I'm going to remember that I
did that like the next day, and it's going to ruin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem. Well, my kids I got, you know.
They they are now like getting their clothes out of there.
Sonny does his own laundry now too, which is nice,
and Natalia's been doing it. But Natalia's problem is that
she can't get it from the laundry room into her closet.
Who's gonna fold it, you know, right, So we sit
there and we taught her had to fold, and then
so I sit there and we'll fold everything, and then
she's done, and then she'll leave for the day or whatever.
And then it's just sitting in the kitchen on the
kitchen counter, all of her shit just folded, ready to
be put away, and then she can't make the next
step up actually putting. I don't know what's gonna happen
in college. It's gonna be a shit show. But that's
good luck.
Speaker 3: It's like the dishwasher, where you know, you start using
the dishwasher and then unless it's somebody's job to empty it,
and it used to be Elbie's but she never bothered
to do it, then you just use the dishwasher. You
just take the dishes out of the dishwasher until there's
no dishes in there anymore, right, until there's just a
few sil a little bit of silverware, yes, and then
you reload it, right and never do the dishes get
actually put away into cabinet, right right. Yeah, it's kind
of like that.
Speaker 1: It is like that. It is.
Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm gonna be leaving tomorrow on a trip.
Speaker 3: Where are you going?
Speaker 2: Well, this is what I was gonna talk I was
gonna tell you about on the last show.
Speaker 1: But so, uh, my nephew, Nicholas and his wife, her
family lives in New Jersey and they, you know, they
have their baby, he's about almost a year now, and
then they're gonna they want Wendy to go with them
to drive. They're driving from Chicago to Jersey and to
introduce the baby to her side of the family. And Wendy's,
you know, the grandma that's helping them on the drive,
and she's like, you know, you should come out because
we haven't had a vacation together, the two of us,
because every time I seen Wendy lately, it's been a
holiday where we're both cooking, you know, the big turkey
dinner like we did for Thanksgiving or she's out visiting
for the kid's birthday and their graduation. And then she's
helping me because we just moved in, so she's helping
me decorate blah blah blah. So she's like, we haven't
done She's like, Lynette, like we need to like have
a nice facing. We haven't done anything together. We haven't,
you know, done anything fun. She's like, just come out.
Speaker 2: And I was like all right.
Speaker 1: I had the miles and I was like okay, and
then we got an air So she's like, they have
an airbnb.
Speaker 3: Wait, so she wanted you to come to Chicago first
and then go on the drive with them.
Speaker 2: No, No, she's going to be driving out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So they're already there and they her family has
an airbnb, but Wendy's only staying there like one night
because it's packed with family.
Speaker 2: So she's like in Jersey.
Speaker 1: So she's like, this is where they're this is the
area that they're staying. Here's some of the areas that
we should look into because I don't know Jersey. So
they give me a couple areas New Joysey. You from Joysy,
I'm Joysy, So OK, so I go on Airbnb. I
find a place that's, like, I don't know, five miles
away from where they're staying. And I read it to Wendy,
and Wendy's like, okay, that sounds good, and I said,
but their cancelation is like, you can't, like, if we
book it, we can't cancel. And I said, unless we
get this cancer, unless we get the insurance, which is
what you were talking about for the comedy show. Yes,
and I never get the insurance. And she's like and
I'm like, are you sure? I mean, are you sure?
You know? So it's just this little like one bedroom
like bungalow kind of thing near the beach and it's
five miles from the house where the other family staying. Okay,
so it wasn't it wasn't that expensive. And so I'm
like okay, and I read and I said, let me
look at the neighborhood. I read about the neighborhood and
it's a low crime whatever. Because I'm like, we've never
been to Jersey. I don't know where we're you know
where this place is, right, but it must be Okay,
it's by the beach whatever. How many nights did you
We booked it for four nights okay, okay, So I
buy the insurance because the insurance says, you know, if
all these things happen, like travel, something happens with your baggage,
if you get sick, if you have COVID, and so anyway,
book it. And then Wendy talks to like after I
book it, Wendy talks to the a sister in law
or somebody else, one of the family members, and they go, oh, no,
that's a bad neighborhood. That's that neighborhood's gone down. And
Wendy and I are like, oh great. So then we
were looking into like I was asking you about your
COVID right.
Speaker 3: You wanted to know if I had a positive COVID
test that I could prove right, And I was like, unfortunately, yes,
the one that I got at the urgent care was negative.
Speaker 2: Was so.
Speaker 1: Now Wendy gets there last night, they get into town,
She's like, well, Nick and I are gonna drive by.
They drive by the place. There's prostitution, like everywhere you look.
It's just like very very shady. And it's a bungalow, sorry,
a bungalow in an apartment building. Like she's like, it's
it's an apartment building and there's like kids and like
pimps and and and her and her cousin or whoever
talked to her is the one that told her. She's like, no,
that's that neighborhood's gone down, like it's not good. And
I was like, no, wonder why it's so fucking cheap.
So anyway, long story short, I was able to get
a refund because I was able to cancel by the
very last second, which was last night.
Speaker 2: So I got a refund.
Speaker 1: But I looked into it, like with the insurance, and
it was like, well, if you have COVID, you can
do it. And then I was like, well, Stephanie's got
COVID you.
Speaker 3: Know anyway, did you have to send a positive test?
Speaker 1: No, I did. I was on the very cutoff time.
Oh so I got it like right by that night.
Luckily Wendy got in town that night. She went and
checked it out, scoped it out right. So now we're
staying at a hotel Okay, which is like seven miles away.
Speaker 3: I think it's best.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to live in Hollywood on I think
I told you, I've told you this before, but on
El Crito Place, which was one block east of Librea.
Uh huh, and like a half a block up from
Hollywood Boulevard.
Speaker 1: I know where that is. Yeah, Stephen J.
Speaker 3: Canel building is on the corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If I used to work at a phone sales, my
phone sales job was in the Stephen J. Canel building.
Speaker 2: I used to go on auditions in that building. Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Because one of the big casting people were in that
building in that building many odds, I can't remember what
it was called, some thing Harris and it was like
a big one. They did a lot of the sitcom. Anyway,
I lived, So if you walked up the street from
the Stephen Jknel building and across the street there was
an apart I lived in this the back house of
a house right across the street was a motel. It
was tear that was I mean, this was not a
good neighborhood. This is Hollywood. It's block by block, Like
our street wasn't horrendous. But when you went up a
little bit, because the next street was Franklin, so we
were between Franklin and Hollywood Boulevard. So we're in this
there's like some decent apartments. But like I said, across
the street, south of our building is like a hooker hotel,
hooker motel, you know, so any time, So we were
constantly wondering if we should call nine one one because
there would be like a sex worker screaming at a
pimp and you don't know, like you're like, is this
just are they just having a normal prostitute fight, or
like it's something somebody troubably bad going on? Like But
then a lot of times we'd be high or even
have been doing coke, and then we'd be like shit
because we call the police and then they come and
want like a witness statement. We can't ye high now,
so it'd really be like a Sophie's choice, you know.
We'd be like, like, I could see that, hopefully this
will blow over.
Speaker 1: Can't we all just.
Speaker 2: Get along scream out the window?
Speaker 1: But it was so often Oh I bet, I bet yeah.
Speaker 3: And then my freaking roommate who ended up being a
nurse and living in like a log cabin in Vermont,
but at the time she was way freaking worse than
I was. And she was I told you, she had
the bright idea that she was going to start dealing
drugs out of our apartments.
Speaker 2: Oh really, like, oh, hell oh, I'm like, I work
at like an insurance company. I was the only responsible one.
Speaker 3: I would put on this stupid little suit like I
had like a skirt with a jacket, like I was
trying to I'm nineteen, yeah, trying to go to my
life insurance job. She's out doing drugs all night. And
then she's like, I've got it. I figured out how
we're going to like make a living, you know. And
I was like, okay, I'm all ears. And she's like, well,
I have a friend who can get us like all
of this pot and we can start we could sell it.
And I was like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoaly And she was genuinely it was a big fight,
like we got to do a big fight. And I
remember calling my mom crying, just going, well it does.
She won't care if I see her name. Her name
is Heidi. But I was like, oh my god, Heidi
wants to sell drugs out of our apartment. And you know,
it was my mom. She was just like, well, what
are you going to do.
Speaker 2: My mom was the kind of person that would be like, well,
you need money.
Speaker 1: I was like I'm telling her no, oh, but she won't.
Speaker 3: She's telling me like she was like, oh, you're so
like uptight, Like I don't know why you think this
is a bad idea. And I'm like, because we could
get arrested. She's like, we're not gonna get arrested. Like relax,
Uh huh. I guess I was already anxious even back then.
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, and then you mix in, you know, pat
back then with the paranoia, Like I would always be
afraid when I was stone back then that the cops
are gonna come bust the door down at whoever's apartment
we were hanging out at.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what I always always thought that, like,
especially when I had to call nine one one, and
I did have to call nine one one sometimes and
I'd be like, they're gonna And one time I called
nine one one and then hung up, and then you know,
they call you back, and then you have to answer
the phone because if you don't, we're gonna think something
happened and they're gonna send the police to your house.
Speaker 2: So I had to be like, Hi, No, everything's fine,
I am high.
Speaker 3: Hi high. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was not cut out for like the life I
was living at nineteen, right, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Who I thought I was, But I was like, you know,
I totally like having people over smoking, you.
Speaker 2: Know, crack accidentally, and I was just like, who am
I Like, I'm pretty normal. I'm uptight for the life
that I sort of was kind of living.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I lived with a freaking school teacher in
Canoga Park. She owned like a like a little Catholic
preschool she ran. She ran the pre school that you
and I ended up working at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I didn't know that your roommate was the
owner of it.
Speaker 1: She was for a while in Canoga Park, And it
was the first house I moved out of my mom's
house into because I started working for her. And then
she needed a roommate and I was like, good, because
I want to get the hell out of my house.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 1: Moved in and was her roommate. Then she had a
third roommate who lived with us that I remember. She
had two little dogs that went into the bathroom with
her all the time, and she was always odd. The
dogs followed her everywhere. And now it's like Phil follows
me into the bathroom. Like I was making fun of
this bitch because her dog was following her into the bathroom.
Now I get it because that's what Phil follows me everywhere. Yeah,
all the time. So I was the asshole back then
making but yeah, I'm living with these two goodie two shoes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: And then UH and working at the preschool, and then
finally I got a job at UH the Genesis Entertainment Company,
my first job in entertainment, and then.
Speaker 3: Week When did you? When were you the corps girl?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 1: Wasn't that When I was working at the preschool, I
was the Yes, I was, yeah corps. It was like
no bud light. But I got fired because I was
drinking out of a course light up right right.
Speaker 3: And You're like, there's buddiser in here and there You're.
Speaker 1: Right, good memory, Stephanie. Yeah I got I got a
draft of beer and I was off duty. I wasn't
being a bud light girl at the time. I was
at Jeremiah's a Northridge and I just went to like
traffic school and I went to Jeremiah's afterwards to meet
my friends. It was like Monday night, football night, so
I'm hanging out with them. I get a draft beer
at the bar and it's bud Light. I asked for
a bud light. They give it to me a course cup,
and the guys that work for Budweiser were at the bar.
That's how I met them to begin with, and they
see me drinking and they were like, now we gotta
fire you. I was like, that's the best make money
making job I've ever. I would go out for three
hours to bars, pass up key chains and make a
hundred bucks a night. And then I was a Heineken
girl after that. But it wasn't as great. I didn't
really make that much.
Speaker 2: I mean they kind of really called me to do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the bud light was consistent. Was once a
week I was going out with the other two girls.
Speaker 3: That was a lot of money to us.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought I was rich. I thought
I was I thought I hit the gold mine. I
was like underd bucks a night. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great money.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I remember, like the most I ever made with
all my jobs when I was waiting tables was like
four If I made four hundred dollars in a week,
and that was working a lot of hours, like a
lot of shifts. Yes, I was like, oh my god,
I have like my best week ever.
Speaker 1: See you are lucky because you had jobs where you
get tips and stuff. I never had jobs where I
got tipped because I was afraid to be a waitress,
like I was afraid I was gonna spill shit and
fuck things up. And I wasn't a bartender or anything
like that. I just had you know, reception jobs and
working as a temp jobs. I mean, I remember I
got a temp job working in an office at Universal
on the Universal lot, and I just sat in a
room with a telephone for the whole day, all week.
Speaker 2: And it's just answering the phone, like you know, Thompson Entertainment.
Speaker 1: Can I help you?
Speaker 2: Not in can I take a mes?
Speaker 1: And I would just take a message right and the
just sitting in a room by myself, bored to tears,
no phone, no computer back then, just answering phones in
a room alone.
Speaker 3: I told you about the one, the temp job that
I got fired from because I would use the Do
you remember they had a thing called a Watts line.
It was like a lot of these companies had them,
and it was you could make They would buy this
service and then you can make a lot of long
distance phone calls.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: But so and I missed a lot of my friends
back home, so, like, because I was tempting early on
before I went back to like waiting tables, I did
a lot of temp work and yeah, I would always
use the Watts line and like call my friends all
day long. Yes, I got caught and fired. Really yes,
what they say because it was one of these phone
the phone it lit up which line you were using. Uh,
so you could see that I was using the Watts
line because that was the one that was lit up.
So some of these freaking bitches that were couldn't mind
their own business where because I was usually a receptionist,
same thing, or sitting in for a secretary, and they
would walk by your desk and look, and then they
went and reported to the boss that I was using
the Watts line.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 3: I love that. So then I got called in and
they were like, so what have you been doing, Like
you've been making a lot of phone calls. Who have
you been calling?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, just you know stuff.
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, were you u Wats line? And
I was like no, and they're like, well, Susan saw
that you were, so now you're lying about it, So yeah,
you're not welcome back. Ah, the worst or I know
another time that happened and I had left and then
the Apple One temp service called me and they said, yeah,
they don't want you back because you were using the
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in a hotel, staying in a hotel, and I hate traveling.
And I had a nightmare last night because I talked
about this on Patreon, but Natalia had a little mishap
last night, and so it gave me a nightmare of
like feeling like you know those some of those dreams
where you're like in quicksand and you can't get Are
you like trying to move and your muscles won't work,
or you're spitting your teeth out, you know all those
kind of dreams. Well, the last night, my dream was
like trying to catch the plane and Wendy's on the
plane and I'm trying to get to her, and I
lot and I don't have my shoe or my purse,
lost my purse, and I'm like, oh, my phone's not
in my back pocket, but the plane is leaving. It
was one of those kind of dreams like I just
can't get to the destination, and it's thanks to the
phone call that I got from Natalia, which is on
Patreon you want to hear it. But I mean these kids, yeah,
these kids, I spend so much time worrying. You think
that all your worries are when they're younger, you know,
well like Kaylan's kids age. You know, you get like
a lot of worries, like how because they can't quite
tell you what's wrong. I mean, they can talk and
tell you they don't feel well, but you're always like
you feel responsible for everything about their death.
Speaker 1: You have to watch where they are all the time,
especially when you go out in public.
Speaker 2: You got to keep an eye on them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, shit can go sideways very quickly, very quickly. Any day,
you know, you're waiting for that call from their school.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: But then they get older and you're like, okay, yes,
corner office, put your feet up.
Speaker 1: Not so fast, not so fast.
Speaker 3: We're learning. Not so fast.
Speaker 2: We're learning that even the boss has a boss.
Speaker 3: You know. You can be in the corner office. You
can have your feet on the desk, you can be
looking at your view and that you can still ring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're rolling calls breaking high higher boss talk
to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I always somebody's bitch twenty four to seven, Always
somebody's bitch. You always have to be alert.
Speaker 3: You know. It's funny because me not drinking ever, I
don't ever drive think about it. I don't think like,
oh I took a gummy and now I'm like out
of commission, right, you know. But John has to think
that way if like, for instance, now I go to
better early because I'm old, you know, or if I
have freaking COVID, you know, then all of a sudden
John has to be like, oh shoot, I have to
be a high alert. Yeah, like you never know when
your kids are gonna call you from somewhere and be
like I need.
Speaker 1: Help, right, And I have my Yeah, I've my phone
on all the time, even if they're still home in
the other room, because once in a while I'll get
a phone call like I'm a feeling I think I'm
gonna throw up. Do you have any other anti nausea medicine?
You know?
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's just it's it's never ending.
Speaker 1: But but I will. Okay, so I will. I did
want to tell you this episode speaking of being parents. Yeah, okay,
So we were talking about last week about, uh, this
show Divorce on our last show, which is great. You
guys to watch it. It's on It's on Max, not HBO,
Max Max.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: So when you were telling me that, I was like,
I want to giggle. So that night I got in
bed and I was like, I'm in the mood for
like something funny. So I wanted to go watch Divorce.
But then I got sidetracked because there's a there's a
documentary called Web of Lies and it's on Max and
it's a lot about like you know.
Speaker 2: Computer, like a lot of the story.
Speaker 1: Each story is different and each episode has the reenactment
people and it doesn't. You know. Sometimes they will show
the real video, but mostly it's it's actors reenacting. I'm like,
all right, I'm okay with that. Some as are good actors,
you know, I'm jealous of them because I want that job.
Remember we talked about that. So anyway, so it's called
webbel Eyes. This one episode was so crazy. So I
think it's back when.
Speaker 2: MySpace was was very big with the kids with teenagers.
Speaker 1: So there's this young girl, I think she's I think
she was like twelve, and she had very bad add
and she had anxiety, and she was bullied a lot
from her schoolmates. And they lived in some suburb, you know, USA,
small town, and her mom was talking. Her mom was
telling the story her real mom, and she they lived
in a house next door to another girl that was
twelve years old that was her friend, and they were
The mom was really nosy a lot, like she was like,
you know, can the girl. Let's say the girl's name
is Amy, the girl that in the center of the story,
and the next door neighbors had another Hannah, And it's like,
Hannah wants to play with Amy today and she's like, well,
so Amy, Sorry before I jump ahead, Amy switched schools
because of the bullying, and the bullying stopped and she
started feeling really good and met a lot of nice friends.
They asked her to play volleyball. So she's kind of
now her front Hannah next door. She's kind of giving her,
she's shining her on a little bit, doesn't give it
her as much, doesn't need her as much, so she's
getting her feelings hurt. And her mom, her Hannah's mom
is watching this like, oh, it's okay, you know. She's like,
but Amy doesn't want to play with me, and she's like,
it's okay, honey, you know, we'll figure it out, you know,
and then she gets like a dirty look, you know,
and then they go in their house. Okay, So back
to Amy. So Amy's wants.
Speaker 3: We'll figure it out, yes, because the camera that's re enactment,
you know, it starts like twisting her mustache.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we'll figure it out with her eyebrows spikes up.
So Amy is now feeling good and wants to be
on my space. So my space is all the rage
at the new school, so she's like, mom, can I
have my space? And her mom was like, way better
than me, and you Stephanie. Her mom is like, okay,
you can have it, but I have the password. I
will log on.
Speaker 2: You can be on it, and then you only have
an hour and then I will log off. Blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So she logs on. He's got the energy for that
level of supervision, doesn't she have some shits she needs
to do.
Speaker 1: To other kids? Like yeah, I know, like and by
the way, like i'd forget to log out, you know. Yeah, okay,
So she's on my Space all right. Then she sees
then there's this an account that pops up like hey,
I used to I go to the school one town
over and he's like this really cute surfer guy or whatever,
and he's got a really cute picture and I like you, Amy,
I think you're cute. And so now Amy's got like
a boyfriend, right, and she takes a picture of him
and she puts hearts next to him, and she puts
it in a frame and she puts it next to
her bed, and she's like falling in love, like and
she's telling our friends on MySpace about this guy. She
tells her mom, you know, and her mom's like, well,
what does this guy look like?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Who is he oh, he's sixteen and he just lives
in the other you know whatever, and okay, so then
she goes on thinking she's having like a boyfriend online.
Speaker 3: Okay, but hold on one second, because so this mom
is so like into her daughter's business that she's like,
I'll have the password. But then she finds out she's
got a four year older boyfriend who's sixteen, and she's
like that's all good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he lives it. So they're not planning on meetings.
She said, you're not gonna meet him, You're just is
just an online MySpace thing, right, right, So she's like yeah,
So so Amy's like, yeah, it's just a mice, you know,
but we're like he you know, and he would he
would log on and he would go like, how's your
day going, babe?
Speaker 3: You know, like you still though, be like, what's sixteen
year old wants something to do with a twelve year
old that's like fucked up? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he was a little younger, I don't know.
But okay. So so now one day Amy forgets to
log off, the mom forgets to log off. Mom sits
down at the computer and she sees this guy, let's
call him. Sean, her online boyfriend, pop up, and she goes,
this is uh, this is Amy's mom. And then she
she said, she asked him a question. I don't remember,
it's not important, but he replied. The mom was like,
now that's weird. This is in the middle of the day,
Like he should be at school. Why is he on
MySpace in the middle of the day.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: So she's a little now, you know, her spidy senses
are up.
Speaker 1: Okay. So then this goes on for a little while.
Then something happens with Amy and Sean and they get
into like there. Uh. He starts to like start going,
he starts to ignore her and like I don't have
time for you anymore. And then he starts going like
you know. Uh. Then he becomes friends with all Amy's
friends on MySpace and he gets them all they all
start like everybody hates you in this town. Nobody likes you.
You should just kill yourself, like you know, you're a slut,
you're all And then all these other kids from her
old school that used to bully her started started bullying
her right and started saying all these horrible things, and
she she was like, mom, mom, look what's there look
what they're saying. And her mom was like, oh my god.
She goes, you need to get off of this, you
need to get off of my space. She's like, I'm
shutting it down. And she's like, you know, yelling at
her mom and she runs in a room, she slams
the door. She her mom and her The mom and
the husband are like having dinner, like talking about what
are we going to do about this my space and
this guy that's now she's getting bullied again, you know,
we need to shut MySpace down, and so they go
up to her bedroom to talk to her.
Speaker 2: She hung herself.
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, trigger warning and by the way, there's like, sorry,
but there's like six six seasons. This is just one episode,
okay in the many, so yes, I'm gonna spoil this
whole episode. But it gets okay, So she hangs herself.
So then her her her parents are like, you know, devastated.
Right then they like they kind of they get the
police involved. They want to know who the Sean kid
is and they're pissedy this, you know, who the fuck
is this kid? And they want answers. And in the meantime,
like about two weeks after she dies, the next door neighbor,
let's call her Marge, and her daughter, Hannah. Hannah's turning
like four thirteen or whatever. It's her birthday. By the way,
Amy's would have been thirteen. Her birthday was that week too,
And Hannah's mom, Marge, invites these the parents over to
Hannah's house for her birthday, like, do you want to
come over.
Speaker 2: For Hannah's birthday? Know your daughter would have been fourteen today?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so the mom, who's trying to like think
that she's being a nice neighbor, tells the husband doesn't
want to go, and she's like, come on, let's just go.
Let's just you know, let's go in an honor, you know,
in honor of Amy and represent Amy. So they go,
they're singing Happy birthday to Hannah, and the dad can't
take it. He leaves, He runs out of the house.
She leaves, you know whatever. Then Marge comes out of
the house, follows them and says to the mom of Amy, hey,
I'm sorry, you know, maybe it was bad timing that,
you know, we had the party or whatever, but I'm
glad you guys came. Then she goes, here's where it
gets good. Then she goes, you know, we got Hannah
at Christmas present. It's a ping pong table? Do you
think we can store it in your in your garage
until Christmas so that she doesn't see it? And they're
like what that's weird and they're like, I don't, like,
we don't like, you know, my husband is in tears
right now, like can we hold like can we hold
off on this? Like it was a weird request. Yeah,
on top of inviting them to the Christmas party, I
mean the birthday party was weird. But anyway, so now, okay,
now the police has the computer, they're going through everything.
They sit the parents down and they go, we found
out who Sean was. Sean was Hannah's mother, the next
door neighbor.
Speaker 3: Oh I saw that coming, Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1: The mother. Okay, this this is sort of the same
story that I had. If you remember, yes that I
did a Patreon where a mother was sending horrible, mean
letters to Natalia. It's the same thing. So anyway, this
woman was responsible. So they're like fucking pissed and they
drive home from meeting with the FBI agents. They pull
into their garage, the garage door opens and the ping
pong table is inside the garage, wrapped and they're like,
what the fuck. They grabbed the fucking ping pong table,
They take acts, they throw it on her lawn.
Speaker 2: They take an.
Speaker 1: Axe, they're smashing it, and they're smashing it and they're
spending like a you know, they're yelling and like you
killed my daughter.
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, she police came arrested her and she's probably spent like,
I don't know, maybe three months in jail. She didn't
get much jail time. Yeah, she's out, Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Because that's a little bit like the woman who again
trigger warning about suicide. But remember that story about the
guy who had the girlfriend who was always like you should,
you should do it, you should if you're depressed, don't
be a pussy, you should do it, and then like
coaxed him all the way through and then they found
the text on her phone. She was like get back
in the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was like I don't know, I don't yes,
this is terrible, and she was like, get in the
car and do it right, right, But these like we're
a team. This is a who bullied this poor little
girl and it didn't even feel bad about it, then
invited the parents over to the birthday party. Oh taromba
la faca. I mean, my god, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what I would have done.
Speaker 1: I really don't.
Speaker 3: I wonder do they give the identity of any of
these people. I wonder if people like watch this episode
and figure out who that woman is.
Speaker 1: I would love to find out. Oh, they did show
the real woman. They showed her coming out of court.
She looks exactly as you, like, just the soccer mom,
you know whatever, just suburban. I mean, people just be
crazy there, I swear, But it was like this, the
same type of thing happened to us when another mom
gets involved in their daughter's lives because they're because they
feel their daughter's been slighted, so they take it upon
themselves to fucking bully the other girl. Like, how demented
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Speaker 1: Yes? I did watch that because I saw you guys
talking about it on people on our Facebook page.
Speaker 2: Okay, lady, like, I'm gonna watchat I.
Speaker 3: Do not understand these things where people stay with like
you know. Okay, So the betrayal is all about like
these people, these guys that end up that are like,
oh my god, he was like the most normal guy
on the planet, Like who's soccer dad? Who would have known,
like you know, like the soccer mom that you were
just talking about, Yes, these people that there were no signs,
no red flags. Then you find out that there were
plenty of red flags. And this is where I'm just like,
wait a minute, how did I just watch thirty minutes
or you know it's like two hours because there's two
I think hour long episodes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did I get this far? In with all
the like, oh my god?
Speaker 3: This this woman, her first marriage doesn't work out. This
guy's terrible and he becomes an addict. Then she meets
this other.
Speaker 1: Guy and he's like the greatest, greatest guy, and he
loves her and her fifteen kids and he can't wait
to parent them all.
Speaker 2: No problamos, nothing, it's all smooth sailing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then they get married pretty quickly and all the
parents are just like, oh, the greatest guy.
Speaker 1: Yes, I can't wait to have you as a son
in law.
Speaker 3: Then you find out like, no, there were hella red flags.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, hella red flags.
Speaker 3: He was cheating, he was home all well, she was
pregnant right by the way, right right, right, but they
neglected to tell you that part that was like, oh yeah,
but like whatever, he was just texting somebody and she
found it or something like that, right, yeah, right, right, Oh,
it's just a youngctional affair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, barely eighteen person, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, so granted, Okay, she was surprised, but she found
they found like a thousand They call it se Sam
child sexual uh wait materials, sexual materials whatever. Okay, yeah,
because it's not pornography. No, they don't call it pornography
anymore because pornography implies that there's consent, right, so they
call it s sam. Okay, So they find all this
stuff on this guy's computer, and in her defense, she
does tournament. She does, she told she first she tells
her sister and then they call So, this guy's brother
is a police officer. They tell the brother the brides like,
don't do anything crazy, like tell the cops. Yes, I know, so.
Speaker 1: What a brother.
Speaker 3: I want him on my side, I know exactly, you know,
so yeah, and then so then she does tell the police,
the police whatever.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 2: This guy gets uncovered. The problem is that later he
goes to jail.
Speaker 3: He's in jail for a while and then she's like, Ah,
the kids miss him though, and she's gonna freaking forgive
this guy.
Speaker 2: He destroyed her daughter's life.
Speaker 3: He was a dad to these kids from the time
they were really really young, and some of the material,
some of the things he was videotaping were her freaking kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that's so mad was there.
Speaker 3: They don't even spend a lot of time going like, Okay,
we're going to tell you about the psychology of why
women go back to men. They don't even really get
that into it. They're just like yeah, And then she
was going to give him a chance, but then he
really wasn't that sorry.
Speaker 1: Right, like she he was in jail for a little while,
then came out and was like staying in some house
like where Grandpa's house, and she was bringing him food
and like praying with him and like, you know, because
she was desperate to have that, you know, life back
and have that you know that that just normality of
life back the way even though he was videotaping her
daughter right like down her shirt.
Speaker 3: And had, as she says, the stuff, the material that
she says she saw was so horrendous she couldn't even
tell the camera she couldn't even admit what was in
those pictures that she saw, so you know, it was
like god awful, horrendous. Like she's like, those things will forever,
I'll have PTSD. I can never unsee those pictures, right,
But I'm gonna take him back. I ain't, but I'm
gonna forgive him because like, eh, he's probably gonna he's
gonna be better. Right now, I'm just like, Okay, I
understand that you're sad that you found this out about
your husband, but like I can't imagine from the daughter's
so and by the way, the daughter, who is now
like a full on teenager, was just like, oh hell no,
fuck all, y'all, I'm gonna go live with bio dad
who's a drug addict because that's preferable, right you and
your weak ass accepting his apologies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I was like, she's the only saying. She
was the only saying one. I know.
Speaker 2: I think she's an a young adult now, and like.
Speaker 3: The mom's like, yeah, I mean, it was really sad
that my daughter didn't want to live with me. Oh
you think you think she's like I didn't really feel safe.
My daughter didn't feel safe with me, and it took
her a while to snap out of it and go like,
I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, yep. I think that she found out at I
think what snapped her out of it is that she
when she found out he wasn't stargazing, he was really outside.
I think she found out more information and then she
was like okay, goodbye, like she was done with him.
But the thing with these these guys that get the
sea Sam that uh is it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Child sexual abuse materials what it stands for.
Speaker 1: Yes, so they go they don't go to jail for
very long. They're in jail. Some remember the show we watched.
We love that show and I think it's coming back
for another season. That was the name of that show.
It had a weird just generic name.
Speaker 3: Like Undercover, underage.
Speaker 1: Underage undercover. Yeah, it's like on A and E or whatever.
It's a great show. Love The second season was really good. Yeah,
But they would bust these guys and then you would
find out at the end, you know, how much jail time,
and it's like, yeah, the guy was like trying to,
you know, pick up on twelve year olds on the internet,
got busted and was in jail for like twenty four months,
like that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be like a long time for
some of these guys.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, and so what at this guy.
I can't remember what this guy got on betrayal.
Speaker 3: I think it was it was for a short amount
of time, yeah, like like it was similar. It was
like eighteen months or something.
Speaker 2: Right, And then he was living in the town where
the teenage daughter was living, and she was pissed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, I gotta like.
Speaker 2: Have ants to run into this guy, and she was.
Speaker 3: He was wanting to see her, trying to communicate with her,
and he was told by the judge. Remember, the judge
was just like I am so sorry, Like I would
love to give this guy more time. I just my
hands were tied, like this is what they made a deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but she's like.
Speaker 3: Do not ever have contact with your daughter? And then
he's like, oh, but can I still, like, you know,
write her letters or whatever. And the judge is like,
no no contact means no contact and he's like, okay,
but could I like walk by her house or whatever,
like just like kicking the window see what she's up
to take a quick video.
Speaker 1: And the judge was like, are you freaking hidding me.
Speaker 3: No, I know, no no contact And he's like, okay,
but I could still like email her or whatever.
Speaker 1: Right, I know, yes, because he got his phone back
or something. Yeah, because for a while after he got
out of prison, he wasn't allowed to have a phone.
I was like, wow, that's not that's some harsh punishment.
No smartphone shit, no no internet no, yeah, no smartphone no.
And I was like, well, that at least is something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could get a phone with that Internet. You
got to still be able to play like but Jeweled
or no games on your phone that don't need the Internet.
Speaker 1: It's got that.
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Speaker 2: God, Best Fiends, the worst game that we talk about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, since we were doing this, we had him do
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Speaker 2: We were already like locked in yeah those ads.
Speaker 1: But we tried to play it. I tried to play it.
Speaker 3: It was it's all like in app purchases, it's like
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I never graduated. I didn't even look at I don't
even know what I'm even talking about at all. It's
like there's creatures and it's really cool and it's super colorful,
and like, I have no idea.
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you know, desperate for ads.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well now we actually say yea, what we
like about well yes, but back then we were just
like we just have to read this best Fiends ad.
There was only one other product. Well back then I
think we would if we didn't like something, we would
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came in.
Speaker 1: I was like, Gary was our producer. I was like, Gary,
I'm not talking about that ad.
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