WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog, 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 my dog. We're flying through the or over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.439 saw was my dog coming over the fence. What are 9 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:43.280 you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling around 10 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:51.920 out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.520 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus quice you better Hello, hit the boddy out here. 15 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:06.799 What quent on out there? I thought of a bit 16 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:10.480 just about second foot nine? I don't know. Easy announce there, Yeah, 17 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:11.239 I'm booking right. 18 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.439 Hey, all right, folks on to welcome our guest to 19 00:01:13.480 --> 00:01:16.439 the show. It is Seth from Connecticut. Welcome to the 20 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:17.040 show man. 21 00:01:17.359 --> 00:01:17.959 How do you Riyan? 22 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:20.280 Nice to meet you you too, man, I've been looking 23 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:22.640 forward to this conversation. I appreciate you reaching out, I 24 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.200 appreciate you listening to the show. So let's get it 25 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:27.120 right into it. UT's talk about this bigfoot thing. What 26 00:01:27.239 --> 00:01:29.359 in the world got you interested in the subject to 27 00:01:29.400 --> 00:01:29.879 begin with? 28 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:31.239 Oh, man, I've. 29 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:34.359 Been interested in bigfoot as long as my memory goes back. 30 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.840 I was always interested in NeSSI and the Abominable Snowman 31 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.120 and stuff growing up. Growing up in the eighties, I 32 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.599 saw enough scary movies was Bigfoot in him. What really 33 00:01:43.680 --> 00:01:46.599 got me started is my dad got me a book 34 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:50.599 about Albert Austman at his encounter and being kidnapped, and 35 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:52.719 that just blew my mind, because up until then I 36 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.879 really only thought of abominable Snowman, not really so much 37 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:59.400 bigfoot in the backyard kind of scenarios here. That encounter 38 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:01.920 just blew line and got me on it, and I've 39 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:04.200 really never put it down since then. And that was 40 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.760 probably ten eleven years old. I'm forty two now, still going. 41 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.159 It's a lifelong obsession for most of us. I think 42 00:02:11.240 --> 00:02:14.000 let's talk a little bit about the Albert Osman thing. 43 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:16.000 We're going to get into. You've had some experiences with 44 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:18.240 some weird stuff. I know your dad had an experience 45 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:20.840 with a sasquatch. We'll get to that. But let's talk 46 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.879 a little bit about this Albert Osman thing. That is 47 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:27.120 one of the most fascinating accounts that I think I 48 00:02:27.199 --> 00:02:31.319 have personally ever read. And I've done entire episodes on 49 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.360 this show and some of the other podcasts that I 50 00:02:33.400 --> 00:02:37.919 host about that particular story because it is one of 51 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.240 the most fascinating, in my opinion, bigfoot stories that's ever 52 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:44.759 been told. I think it was back in nineteen twenty four, 53 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:48.039 so it's around the same time that the Ape Canyon 54 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:53.000 event happened. The thing about Albert Osman's story was I 55 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:56.120 have never outside of I think there's one story that 56 00:02:56.159 --> 00:02:59.599 I've covered in history back in the day. I don't 57 00:02:59.639 --> 00:03:02.639 remember when it was a lady that had said she 58 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:06.080 was kidnapped or somebody saw her being kidnapped by a bigfoot. 59 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:10.439 But Albert Osman's story is very unique in a lot 60 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:15.759 of ways. But for somebody to be accosted and kidnapped 61 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.840 by one of these creatures and then spend this much 62 00:03:18.960 --> 00:03:21.479 time with them and then have to escape and then 63 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:24.120 come back to tell the story, it is one of 64 00:03:24.120 --> 00:03:27.280 the most fascinating accounts I've ever heard. So let's talk 65 00:03:27.280 --> 00:03:29.719 a little bit about what fascinated you about it when 66 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:32.039 you were introduced to it. What was your initial thoughts 67 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:34.240 about the story when you read it, and then once 68 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:36.400 you reread it and got into it over and over, 69 00:03:36.439 --> 00:03:38.240 and then you got into the subject a little more. 70 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:40.439 Comparing it to some of the other things that people 71 00:03:40.439 --> 00:03:43.479 have talked about as far as their experiences, what did 72 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.439 that say to you about his experience? Do you believe 73 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:51.479 that experience? Do you think it was possibly partly true? 74 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:53.800 Tell me any and everything you want to talk about. 75 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:55.400 As far as the Albert Osman story. 76 00:03:55.879 --> 00:03:58.039 He stuck to his story for so many years and 77 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:00.439 he was still saying the exact same story up on 78 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:03.080 his deathbed. I really see what he had to gain 79 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:06.159 from lying about a story for that many years. And 80 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:08.280 then that some of the details he talked about trying 81 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:11.520 to remember the story, but like the younger bigfoots scooting 82 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:13.719 around their butts while they were playing, he would just 83 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:15.360 come up with that as a hoax. That doesn't make 84 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.319 any sense to me. That's like something you had to 85 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:19.399 have seen somewhere at least. 86 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:20.199 And then just the. 87 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:23.360 Interactions with the family, like the mother seemed upset with 88 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.000 the father for bringing him and all that the father bigfoot, 89 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.040 then the children's interest in his belongings. There's a lot 90 00:04:31.079 --> 00:04:33.199 of details there and what food they were bringing him 91 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:34.680 to try to eat, but he didn't want to eat. 92 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:36.360 It was some kind of like liking or something they 93 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:36.800 were eating. 94 00:04:37.319 --> 00:04:39.600 Yeah, I tell you, I've tried to put myself in 95 00:04:39.720 --> 00:04:44.959 his position over the years. Imagine waking up in a 96 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:49.240 potato sack, basically being carried by a seven to eight 97 00:04:49.319 --> 00:04:53.680 foot tall God knows how much this thing weighed, creature 98 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:59.000 that's literally carrying you through the woods. It has absolutely 99 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:00.959 blown my mind. And he had a weapon of some 100 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:03.560 sort in the bag with him. I believe that he 101 00:05:03.560 --> 00:05:05.600 couldn't reach it because of the way that he was 102 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:08.279 positioned in the bag and this thing was carrying him. 103 00:05:08.560 --> 00:05:10.720 It is just one of the most fascinating things. And 104 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.319 I've seen his actual interview. You can search it on 105 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.839 Google and find it on the internet, and I think 106 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:21.160 there's a full YouTube channel with his entire account as 107 00:05:21.199 --> 00:05:24.399 he told it. And you watch this guy and it's 108 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:27.959 clear that in my opinion, and I've interviewed a lot 109 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.560 of people, it appears to me that he's sincere about 110 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:36.279 this encounter. That's what happened, the way that he remembers 111 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.319 it happening, is the way that he's sharing it. And 112 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:40.959 I think the one thing that stood out to me 113 00:05:41.120 --> 00:05:44.279 was that he waited quite a while. And some people 114 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:47.199 have talked about that this happened in nineteen twenty four, 115 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.879 and I think he waited a decade or two before 116 00:05:49.920 --> 00:05:52.480 he actually come out and told anybody about the story. 117 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.240 And some people have pointed to that and said, why 118 00:05:55.279 --> 00:05:57.519 did this guy wait so long to tell his story. 119 00:05:58.240 --> 00:06:00.680 I think that's something that happens a lot. I was 120 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.160 working on the show today and I was working on 121 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:05.639 putting together some of the narrations that I do over 122 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:08.360 on Backwoods Bigfoot Stories, one of the other podcasts that 123 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:11.279 I host, and I was narrating some stories, and these 124 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:15.160 are people that their encounter happens in nineteen fifty two 125 00:06:15.360 --> 00:06:18.079 in some cases, and they wait until they're in their 126 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:22.160 eighties to email people like me in twenty twenty six 127 00:06:22.519 --> 00:06:25.279 and say, hey, this happened to me, and you're the 128 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.279 only person I've ever told about it. So that's one 129 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:29.800 of those things that has stuck out to me over 130 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:34.920 the years that has really made me go towards believing 131 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.120 that story. Because initially, when I heard the Albert Osman 132 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.680 story and when I heard Ape Canyon. I thought they 133 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.360 were two very hard to believe stories. I don't know 134 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.800 any other way to put it other than saying they 135 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:47.680 were hard to believe. 136 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:49.399 But the guys in Abe. 137 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:52.000 Canyon immediately came down the mountain and then went straight to 138 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:54.199 a bar and started telling people. That's how their story 139 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:56.399 got out. They didn't go and start talking to the 140 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:58.319 news people. They were telling people at the bar while 141 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.480 they were drinking some whiskey. That's how their story got spilled. 142 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.199 I don't remember exactly how Albert Osman eventually told his story, 143 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:09.079 but it was very different in that way, because these 144 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.800 guys came down, they were scared. This has just happened, 145 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.399 and then the story gets out. And obviously, people like 146 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:18.720 Mark Marcell, Cliff Barrackman, plenty of people have been out 147 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:22.360 to that site and have actually proven that there was 148 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:25.079 a cabin there, and there's a lot of things. I 149 00:07:25.120 --> 00:07:27.680 did an entire chapter on that particular story in my 150 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:30.560 first book, and Mark Marcell sent me some of the 151 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:34.959 photos from some of his recent excavations out in the 152 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:38.720 site where Ape Canyon took place. So there is a 153 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.319 physical history there. They found the mind, they found the 154 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.920 remnants of the cabin. But poor Albert really didn't have 155 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.680 anything as far as physical evidence. He just had his story. 156 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:52.439 But it has certainly again, if it happened in nineteen 157 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.759 twenty four and we're sitting here in February of twenty 158 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:57.879 twenty six talking about it, it has definitely been one 159 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:02.920 of the most prolific encounter stories that has ever happened 160 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:05.439 as far as Bigfoot is concerned, in my opinion. But 161 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:07.959 let's talk about something a little closer to home. When 162 00:08:07.959 --> 00:08:09.920 you reached out with the email, you mentioned that your 163 00:08:10.000 --> 00:08:12.720 dad had an experience that you wanted to share with us. 164 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:14.600 So let's go back to that. Take us back to 165 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:16.360 where your dad was, what was he doing, and what 166 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:17.040 happened to him. 167 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:19.879 Sure this would have been back in Central Texas in 168 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:22.680 the early eighties, a couple of years before I was born. 169 00:08:23.759 --> 00:08:26.959 My dad and mom were married at the time, and 170 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:29.879 at the time, my dad did a lot of skinning 171 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.919 for extra cash, and he did a lot of coon hunting. 172 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.960 He was out there after dark, probably close to midnight, 173 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:38.600 with my mother and a couple of coon dogs and 174 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:42.080 a little twenty two mag rifle, and he had already 175 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.360 bagged a couple of coons and he was just making 176 00:08:44.360 --> 00:08:46.519 the rounds on the property. It was a Mills County 177 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:49.639 if it makes a difference. He spotted a turkey roosted 178 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:52.120 up in a tree, and so he figured, I'm going 179 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.039 to get me a turkey tonight too, So he shot 180 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.600 this turkey. And then after he cracked that shot off, 181 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.279 as he's described it to me over and over growing up, 182 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:04.399 it sounded just like the MGM lion roared. He said, 183 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.399 I felt it. It felt like I was at a 184 00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:08.799 concert and said, it just few like the MGN line 185 00:09:08.879 --> 00:09:10.679 was in the room with you and it roared at you. 186 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.200 My mom said, what was that? And he said, I 187 00:09:14.240 --> 00:09:16.159 don't know. I think it was a cowballing because he 188 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:19.200 didn't want to have her freak out because they were 189 00:09:19.279 --> 00:09:21.120 like a mile out in the woods from the truck 190 00:09:21.159 --> 00:09:23.039 with just like a little flashlight and a twenty two 191 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:26.000 mag and he said, so he gathered his stuff up, 192 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.679 and he said the dogs, which were good coon dogs 193 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.679 as he said, stuck to them like glue and didn't 194 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:34.919 wander off at all. And then he said they made 195 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:36.600 their way back to the truck, and then when they 196 00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.559 got back to the truck, he said, I don't know 197 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:41.519 what that was, but it wasn't a cowballing. My whole life, 198 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:43.440 he's always told me it was a mountain lion. He 199 00:09:43.519 --> 00:09:45.879 just assumed it was a mountain lion. When I got 200 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:48.000 to be like an adult, I told him dead mountain 201 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:48.799 lions don't roar. 202 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:51.320 They go rah at you. It's like a high pitch. 203 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:52.960 They don't roar like the MGM lion. 204 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:56.960 So I always figured it was either Bigfoot or maybe 205 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.919 a dog man who knows, or an African lion walking 206 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.080 around out there, and any of those is a pretty 207 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:03.679 scary situation, I would. 208 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:05.120 Think out in the woods of the twenty two mag 209 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.679 So many coon hunters have stories about these things. I've 210 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:12.200 only covered a couple of them on this show and 211 00:10:12.240 --> 00:10:15.480 some of the other podcasts because I think there's so 212 00:10:15.639 --> 00:10:18.879 much that goes on. I was having this conversation with 213 00:10:18.919 --> 00:10:23.279 somebody earlier today about some of these encounters that happened 214 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.039 to people. I had a conversation with a guy that 215 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.639 I was interviewing just a few days ago who had 216 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.840 something happened in his childhood, and it took him until 217 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:34.799 he was in his early forties to really connect it 218 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:39.000 to the subject because he didn't have the words to 219 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.000 describe it. Back then, Bigfoot wasn't on his radar, Sasquatch 220 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:45.679 wasn't a thing for him. But he's gotten into the 221 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.879 subject over the years, and now he has done enough 222 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.799 research and listened to enough podcast like this one and 223 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:55.039 to other shows, and watched enough documentaries to say, wait 224 00:10:55.080 --> 00:10:58.200 a minute, that thing that happened to me when I 225 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:02.600 was ten years old doesn't make sense. The other known 226 00:11:02.639 --> 00:11:05.480 animals in that area don't make those kind of noises, 227 00:11:06.240 --> 00:11:09.440 Other known animals don't act that way. This guy that 228 00:11:09.480 --> 00:11:11.440 I interviewed a couple of days ago, I said to him, 229 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:14.960 do you think what you saw? Because he described to 230 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:18.360 me seeing a very small monkey and it was white 231 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:20.960 when he was a kid, and it came down the 232 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.919 tree headfirst, and he's basically standing there staring at this thing, 233 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:27.200 and they're looking at each other. And I think he 234 00:11:27.240 --> 00:11:30.879 was in Missouri or Michigan or somewhere. Monkeys aren't native 235 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:33.120 to the area that he was in at the time 236 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.840 he was a kid. But he would never say that 237 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:40.120 it was a potential baby or juvenile sasquatch. And I 238 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.080 certainly was not trying to put words in his mouth, 239 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.919 but I said, when you go through the motions. When 240 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:49.159 you start checking the boxes, if it wasn't a mountain lion, 241 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:53.440 if it wasn't a bird, if it wasn't a known animal, 242 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:55.919 if it wasn't an owl, then when you check off 243 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.480 all of those boxes of things that it wasn't and 244 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:00.919 you're left with only one one thing that it could 245 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.159 possibly be, then I'm going to play Devil's advocate here 246 00:12:04.360 --> 00:12:08.720 and say Occam's razor is leaning in the direction of 247 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:12.000 that it was probably a sasquatch experience that he had 248 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:15.240 of a baby or juvenile sasquatch. And I pointed to 249 00:12:15.320 --> 00:12:17.480 the fact that I've interviewed other people like Kathy's Strain 250 00:12:17.559 --> 00:12:19.799 and Bob Strain and people that have been out in 251 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.240 Area X that have seen these baby or juvenile sasquatches 252 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:26.519 that are the size of chimps. They're three to four 253 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.679 feet tall, and they're swinging through the trees like chimpanzees. 254 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.519 And as far as I know, in the area of 255 00:12:32.559 --> 00:12:35.519 Texas and Oklahoma and any of the places that Area 256 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.519 X would be, those things aren't native there. And if 257 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:41.840 your dad has been a coon hunter all his life 258 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:44.080 and he's out in the woods and he's hearing this 259 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:50.240 strange MGM lion scream or roar. When you start checking 260 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:53.440 the boxes of things that it isn't, you're left with 261 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:58.080 only one option. Has your dad, through any of your conversations, 262 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:00.679 has he ever arrived at the fact that he might 263 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:04.159 have had a sasquatch experience or does he still chalk 264 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:06.200 it up to the fact that I'm going to say 265 00:13:06.200 --> 00:13:08.559 it was a big cat and I'm going to move forward. 266 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:10.600 He does believe that's what it is. 267 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:12.960 At this point, I did forget to mention that he 268 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:17.320 it seemed like they were being circled and not so 269 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:19.960 much paced out, but something was definitely circling them and 270 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.159 checking them out all the way to the truck, which 271 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:22.960 the dogs were. 272 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:24.639 Right on top of them freaked out. 273 00:13:25.720 --> 00:13:27.399 But other than that, it was just the roar and 274 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:29.240 then just a feeling of we did probably need to 275 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:30.879 get out of here kind of scenario. 276 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:34.759 That's the other thing that has always fascinated me. I 277 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:38.120 have talked to people through the years. I've done probably 278 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:41.879 a thousand plus interviews at this point. One of the 279 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.399 early interviews that I did was a gentleman I can't 280 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.559 remember his name, but he was from Louisiana and it 281 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:50.399 was out late at night. They might have been coon hunting, 282 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:52.759 I don't know. But he had dogs with him, and 283 00:13:52.879 --> 00:13:55.720 one of these dogs ran into this area where they 284 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.759 were having activity, and whatever was in there, I'm going 285 00:13:59.840 --> 00:14:05.039 to whatever kicked the dog up, killed it and threw 286 00:14:05.080 --> 00:14:08.600 it over their head and it landed thirty forty feet 287 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:11.320 behind them. There's a lot of things in the woods 288 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:12.440 that can kill a dog. 289 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:13.120 Right. 290 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.600 We've lost a dog here on our property several years back. 291 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.320 I still don't know what killed the dog. It was 292 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:20.559 probably a big cat. It might have been a coyote. 293 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.200 But there are very few things on this earth that 294 00:14:23.279 --> 00:14:25.759 can pick a dog the size of this dog up 295 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:29.879 and throw it thirty or forty feet over their heads 296 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.240 out of the woods. And I think his name was Tyler, 297 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:35.559 if I remember correctly. I'm sorry. I have a horrible 298 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.360 memory when it comes to that stuff. But I said 299 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.799 to Tyler, I said, are you pretty sure? And he 300 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:43.120 was pretty sure it was a sasquatch because of his 301 00:14:43.399 --> 00:14:46.159 experiences that he had had before, and the research that 302 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.279 he had done, and the vocalizations and the other things 303 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.440 that was going on. But that's the other thing about 304 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:53.519 this subject that has always fascinated me is people with 305 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:58.200 dogs and having encounters. The dogs will usually tell the 306 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:00.799 tale for you, and stay. 307 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:02.799 Tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right 308 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:04.320 back after these messages. 309 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:11.519 If you have coon dogs, I've coon hunted when I 310 00:15:11.559 --> 00:15:14.120 was a kid, so I know our coon dogs were 311 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.519 the most gentle dogs. They were the most loving dogs 312 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:18.399 in the world, but when it came to a coon, 313 00:15:18.919 --> 00:15:22.679 they were absolutely ravitous. They were some of the most 314 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:26.480 aggressive dogs that I have ever seen when it comes 315 00:15:26.480 --> 00:15:29.159 to what they were trained to do, which was to 316 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.639 chase and tree a coon so that we could go 317 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.080 retrieve said coon. And I know some people. We never 318 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.039 did this. We always shot the coons out of the tree. 319 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:39.240 But I know some people will go up and they'll 320 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:41.320 poke the tree and they'll poke the coon and get 321 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:43.000 it out of the tree so the dog can fight 322 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:45.080 the coon. We never did that because I think it's 323 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.000 dangerous and I don't necessarily think that's the most humane thing. 324 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:51.480 But these dogs, by and large, are not afraid of 325 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.559 much as the point and when if you have your 326 00:15:54.639 --> 00:15:57.320 dad who's clearly a trained hunter, who's been out with 327 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:00.480 these dogs multiple times, that's what they live to do 328 00:16:01.000 --> 00:16:03.840 when they're having that kind of reaction, when they're literally 329 00:16:03.919 --> 00:16:07.919 glued to him and your mom, that just doesn't make 330 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:11.519 sense to me. So the totality of the circumstances is 331 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.159 what it's always about for me, is that if these 332 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.080 dogs are acting outside their character and you've got some 333 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:22.600 unknown vocalization going on, at some point, I think you 334 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.720 crossed the threshold of whether you believe in these things 335 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:29.519 or not. Something weird's going on here, and it's possibly 336 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:33.039 an interaction with one of these creatures. I know you 337 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.519 haven't had an interaction with the Sasquatch per se, but 338 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.360 I know you've had some strange experiences. So would you 339 00:16:38.399 --> 00:16:41.759 mind telling us about your own personal strange experiences? 340 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:44.879 Sure love to. So this would have been in their 341 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:45.759 early nineties. 342 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:49.759 I was probably twelve thirteen years old at my parents 343 00:16:49.840 --> 00:16:53.840 house in Central Texas. It was after dark. Me and 344 00:16:53.879 --> 00:16:57.879 my dad were outside doing redneck stuff. He wanted to 345 00:16:57.919 --> 00:17:00.879 see if this twenty two rifle he had would go 346 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:04.039 all the way through this fifty gallon drum redneck stuff, 347 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:07.480 and so we were out there shooting this barrel with 348 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.799 this twenty two rifle, and then we walked over to 349 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.119 the rifle and my dad had stuck his upper body 350 00:17:14.200 --> 00:17:17.720 up into the barrel with the flashlight, looking around, and 351 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.160 I was doing like the normal young kid shit, just 352 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.079 looking around, not paying attention, had the rifle in my hand. 353 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.599 Some movement caught my eye and I looked off towards 354 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.960 Nabindi at the south from my parents' house. 355 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:32.720 My parents' property was the flyover zone. 356 00:17:32.759 --> 00:17:34.640 There was a National Guard armory that was a few 357 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:36.880 miles as the crow flies back behind us, so we 358 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:39.759 would see like see when thirties and helicopters and stuff 359 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:40.599 always going over. 360 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:43.599 This was not that there was no sound. 361 00:17:44.400 --> 00:17:47.960 It was, for lack of better description, like a huge 362 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:50.480 red orbit looked like the sun right before it goes 363 00:17:50.519 --> 00:17:54.200 below the horizon, just a bright, fiery red was casting 364 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:56.200 a little bit of a light on the ground, but 365 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:57.519 not a lot to illuminate the. 366 00:17:57.519 --> 00:17:59.039 Area, just enough that you could notice. 367 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.640 It period to be about one hundred yards away, about 368 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:05.880 the size of like a basketball. It wasn't huge, but 369 00:18:06.039 --> 00:18:07.720 it looked about the size of the sun like on 370 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:11.119 the horizon, and it just floated over the tree line 371 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:13.079 there at the edge of the property. And I stood there, 372 00:18:13.160 --> 00:18:16.599 dumbfounded and watched the whole thing, and never even thought 373 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:17.559 to say, Dad, what. 374 00:18:17.519 --> 00:18:18.039 The hell is that? 375 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.519 I was just like shocked and just staring at this thing. 376 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:22.960 I didn't mention it for a few years. I finally 377 00:18:22.960 --> 00:18:24.599 mentioned it to him and he was like, I can't 378 00:18:24.599 --> 00:18:26.359 believe you didn't say, look at that, what's that? 379 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:29.079 Because he would have got a kick under that for sure. 380 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.839 Isn't that the strangest thing. I've talked to so many 381 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:35.599 people that have had weird experiences, whether it be related 382 00:18:35.720 --> 00:18:39.839 to a bigfoot, whether it be related to UFOs orbs, 383 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.480 strange things. It's so fascinating to me because we have 384 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.599 this picture in our mind of what we would do 385 00:18:45.640 --> 00:18:48.359 if we were in that situation. It's like the Monday 386 00:18:48.359 --> 00:18:51.160 morning quarterback thing, right. If I were in that situation, 387 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.079 I would have charged into the woods, or if I 388 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:55.359 were in that situation and saw that, I would have said, hey, 389 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:58.759 look at that. It's different for everybody, and it's always 390 00:18:58.799 --> 00:19:01.319 interesting to me when you have those kind of experiences 391 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:05.519 and you choose not to draw attention to it, you 392 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:08.960 say nothing. I've talked to people that have had wild 393 00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:12.200 bigfoot experiences where things were thrown at them, they're running 394 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:14.920 out of the woods, they're trying their best to make 395 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:17.039 it off the trail, head back into the vehicle, and 396 00:19:17.079 --> 00:19:19.880 they escape the area, and then they drive for an 397 00:19:19.920 --> 00:19:22.599 hour and don't talk about it. Some of them never 398 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.160 talk about it for the rest of their lives. There's 399 00:19:25.200 --> 00:19:28.079 this other weird I call it a phenomenon in and 400 00:19:28.119 --> 00:19:33.000 of itself, where people have these bigfoot experiences or Sasquatch experiences, 401 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:37.319