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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be an American idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>I come to you this morning with a heavy heart.

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<v Speaker 2>As you understand, I am not Scott's Loan. I will

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<v Speaker 2>never be Scott's loan. I would never pretend to be

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's loane. But I am here this morning. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>expect to be here this morning. On an errand of mercy.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's Loan is not dead. He will live in the

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<v Speaker 2>hearts and minds of all of those who love him.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll leave you back. I can't predict the future, but

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<v Speaker 2>just in case, I want to tell you a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about Scott Sloan. Just a working class kid from Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 2>New York who had a dream, a dream of some

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<v Speaker 2>day shoveling out of that Lake Effect nightmare and rooting

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<v Speaker 2>for an NFL team that got to four Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 2>and lost them all. He had to get away. His

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<v Speaker 2>parents both worked twelve hour shifts at the salt piles

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<v Speaker 2>for the Buffalo, New York Department of Transportation. It's job

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<v Speaker 2>security in Buffalo, and he and his siblings worked after

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<v Speaker 2>school jobs to help the family make ends meet, dipping

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<v Speaker 2>hot beef into wack and perfecting ranch and blue cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>Dressing for the dipping of celery and carrots. He eventually

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<v Speaker 2>made his way to a lesser metropolis, if it's possible

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<v Speaker 2>to have a lesser metropolis in Buffalo, New York, called Toledo, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>In Toledo he would flourish, becoming the main talk show

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<v Speaker 2>host at thirteen sixty WSPD. He became a local radio

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<v Speaker 2>legend there. He was the toast of the town and

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<v Speaker 2>was once featured on the kiss I Am at a

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<v Speaker 2>mud Hen's home game, actually smooching with a mud Hen. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the main rooster, the cock of the walk,

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<v Speaker 2>the talk of the town until they're one unfortunate mistake

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<v Speaker 2>comment he made about a balcony in a shooter. Al

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<v Speaker 2>Sharpton has never forgiven him. But the WISEN programmers saw

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<v Speaker 2>something else in Scott Sloane that other people had not

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<v Speaker 2>to that point, and he came to seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uh ironic that I am honoring him now on

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<v Speaker 2>these sacred airwaves today, the way he honored Bill Cunningham

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<v Speaker 2>last week, and the way Bill Cunningham used to honor

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<v Speaker 2>the Trucking Bozo fifteen years before the Trucking Bozo died

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<v Speaker 2>Scott's loan is not dead. He will live on. As

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned in all of our hearts, a good show

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<v Speaker 2>for you on a shoestrig today and we will get

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<v Speaker 2>it started with a friend named Rob Rosselli here in

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<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes. Also Nathan Burning from an organization

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<v Speaker 2>called Let Them Live Alternatives to Abortion in America. In

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. We also have Leishai Lamish from shan Yune,

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<v Speaker 2>Savannah Maddox from the sixty first District in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky. The legislative session there in the Commonwealth currently

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<v Speaker 2>going on. She's busy in committees and drafting bills and

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<v Speaker 2>taking time in between to talk to us. Also, as

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<v Speaker 2>you know, on the federal on the national level, they

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<v Speaker 2>are going to vote today in the House to see

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<v Speaker 2>if they can pass their Continuing Resolution, in other words,

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to kick the can down the road. They say

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<v Speaker 2>it's a clean bill. Will it pass is the question.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's much more head Matt Morning will join us

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<v Speaker 2>this morning about ten thirty five. Matt Monning is a

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<v Speaker 2>guy several years ago, a former Cincinnati cop, long long

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<v Speaker 2>time ago, and is a collector and just an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>collection that Matt has assembled over the time that he

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<v Speaker 2>has been doing this, and just will listen to some

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that Matt has and some tips for

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<v Speaker 2>you who like to collect and resell or whatever it

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<v Speaker 2>is you do with that kind of stuff. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>Scottslan Show without Scott's Loan. And that's why I have

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<v Speaker 2>a heavy heart today. It could be the thickening of

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<v Speaker 2>the left wall from the minor heart disease I'm suffering from,

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<v Speaker 2>but a heavy heart nonetheless. Rob Rosselli coming up next.

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<v Speaker 2>He says America needs God. We'll find out why in

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<v Speaker 2>just a moment on seven hundred WLW. Our first guest

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<v Speaker 2>on this Tuesday morning, March eleventh, is as a man

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<v Speaker 2>who believes that what America needs right now is not

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<v Speaker 2>a continuing resolution passed today in the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 2>not those not to get in or get out of

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine or any of the other countless wars that are

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<v Speaker 2>springing up all over the globe right now. But America

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<v Speaker 2>needs God to find out who he is why, he

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<v Speaker 2>says this, and a great peace that just came out

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday by him. Rob Rosselli joins The Scott Sloane Show

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Jeffen for Sloani Rob, good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you, hey, Gary, I'm doing good and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it's a pleasure to have you on. Just

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<v Speaker 2>for those of us who believe I'm fully standing with you. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>America needs God. We need to return to the moral

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<v Speaker 2>roots that help found this nation a Judeo Christian nation.

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<v Speaker 2>And this piece that you wrote is just just wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how America and man could not live on

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<v Speaker 2>debt alone. And we're in a whole lot of trouble financially,

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<v Speaker 2>aren't we. Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly correct. And if you don't mind, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>a minute to step back and look at the panoramic

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<v Speaker 1>here and give up my website. The website Box of

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<v Speaker 1>sunglasses dot com. It's all one word, and the most

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<v Speaker 1>important thing people can get out of this is if

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else is God simple salvation plan. And if they

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<v Speaker 1>like what they hear, they can support me through buying

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<v Speaker 1>my books available on the website. I do this, This

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<v Speaker 1>is my own doing. I don't have any support. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't do any YouTube ads or any any pop up

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<v Speaker 1>ads or anything like that. So again, Box of Sunglasses

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, God Simple Salvation Plan, and I'll leave it

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<v Speaker 1>at that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you you work in you work in construction or something,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you rob full time?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well I'm a civil engineer. I'm a freshial engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do construction inspection in New York City for

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<v Speaker 1>a living right now, So you know I have an

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<v Speaker 1>engineering background, of logical mathematical background. I'm not saying that's

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<v Speaker 1>the brightest guy in the world. That's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>I think. So when we look at something like the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Reserve system, I look at it logically and mathematically.

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<v Speaker 2>You say that Donald Trump, well, it was a good

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<v Speaker 2>thing that Donald Trump got into office. So far he

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<v Speaker 2>and his administration haven't really addressed the problem properly.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know again, look at the view for ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand feet. You know, the Federal Reserve is one aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of the co conspiracy. And when I say conspiracy, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Jesus is at the core. The Bible is the

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<v Speaker 1>core the conspiracy, and I mean the Jesus of the

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<v Speaker 1>at of it discourse and the one that's through the

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<v Speaker 1>money to out of the temple. Not this interfaith you

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<v Speaker 1>know your best life now, nonsense to hear from people

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<v Speaker 1>like Joel Oldstein and Rick Warren and the other fools.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean to get to your question specifically about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, I mean Proverbs twenty two to seven. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the debtorous slave to the lender until Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>directly addresses the quote federal quote reserve system, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not federal, has no reserve. It's a private, criminal banking

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<v Speaker 1>cartel which creates money out of nothing, loans to the

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<v Speaker 1>government and banks at interests. Yes, it's that bad until

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump goes in and directly confronts the cartel of

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<v Speaker 1>the federal reserve, and everything he's doing amounts to nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm just saying on

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<v Speaker 1>from a mathematical basis, the debt can never be paid

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<v Speaker 1>off with what he's doing. All he's doing is slowing

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<v Speaker 1>down the rate of increase. Okay, we go into debt

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<v Speaker 1>to the tune of one trillion with a t dollars

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<v Speaker 1>every one hundred days, uh in this country. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>still going on. H And that's ten billion dollars a

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<v Speaker 1>day every day. So when you know when Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>when they get on there and you know jump for

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<v Speaker 1>joy that you know you cut one hundred million here

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty millionaire or even a billion with a bee

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. Uh, it's factions of a percent of

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<v Speaker 1>what our actual debt is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the actual debt is. The actual debt is not

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six trillion or approaching thirty seven trillion any day now.

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<v Speaker 2>It is actually more to the point one hundred to

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred trillion dollars with the unfunded mandates of Medicare, Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 2>so security.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Yeah, that's correct. I mean, depending on what source

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<v Speaker 1>you listen to. And you know, again you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hear this on Fox News. But the unfunded liabilities I've heard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, somewhere ring between one hundred trillions with a

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<v Speaker 1>T to twohndred trillion with a team. That's that includes

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<v Speaker 1>things that you just mentioned, which is another reason Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump can compolitically never get rid of the federal reserve system.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just politically untenable. You know, people are going

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<v Speaker 1>nuts right now because thirty or fifty thousand government workers,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, useless government workers have been cut from the payrolls.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just wait until he tried to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and things where

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<v Speaker 1>tens of millions of people have become dependent on the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. It's just it's just not practical. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>never going to happen. I mean, so, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>more I think about it logically and look at things categorically,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump might be full of it, him and Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that, you know, it tells me that they

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<v Speaker 1>have ulterior motives and people maga. People may not want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that. And you know, again I'll say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course I support you know, cutting weights and going

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<v Speaker 1>after fraud and this sort of thing. But again, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not getting to the core of the issue, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the federal reserve system itself.

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<v Speaker 2>You say America needs God, and I believe that as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but explain if you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, again I mentioned a few minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that in the Bible and Jesus are at

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<v Speaker 1>the core of the quot conspiracy. And and you can't vote,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be a believer and not understand that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this nation was founded on Christian principles. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole idea of separation of powers, you know, was based

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<v Speaker 1>on the inherent evil, the evil heart Jeremiah seventeen of Man.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know where a nation where we have to

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<v Speaker 1>vote whether a baby born alive eccellent abortion should be

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to live. I mean, that's the level of moral

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<v Speaker 1>of the kay that we have sunk into. So to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that we can just put you know, this solve

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<v Speaker 1>all our problems economically with someone like Donald Trump of

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Mosss just cutting waste and all this, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>not it doesn't it doesn't add up, you know, no

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<v Speaker 1>pun intended, it's just it just can't happen. I mean, morally,

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<v Speaker 1>we're decayed. I mean and just just look for example,

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<v Speaker 1>look at the look at the radical left. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look what they're doing. They're already we're just seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>the tip of the icebread with the violence against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the tessela dealerships and the threat the threats on Elon Muskin.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we're on o' donald Trump's life. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these people, Uh, these people are shot. There's there's millions

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Uh, and this whole thing is getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to explode because people just don't understand. They become wards

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<v Speaker 1>of the state to a large extent. Uh. And those

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<v Speaker 1>that aren't wars of the state are supported by these

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<v Speaker 1>radical left communists. So where this is a powder kid

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready to explode. And the more Trump and Elon

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<v Speaker 1>mess with it, the shorter that fuse is getting in.

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<v Speaker 2>This in this piece, in this piece that you released,

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly correct. And what the federal reserve system is again,

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<v Speaker 1>And what it has done is has engendered this kind

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Well, Rob, listen, this is a great this is

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<v Speaker 2>a great discussion, but we got to end it because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running out of time here, Rob Roselli Box of

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<v Speaker 2>and thank you, my friend. I appreciate your time. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Burning on the other side, since the Dobb's decision

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<v Speaker 2>essentially overturned roby Wad abortions have actually increased in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>real different organization called Let Them Live. He and his

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<v Speaker 2>him right now. His name is Nathan Burning. Nathan, good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Great to be on? You know, it's exciting to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about what we work on and you know how we

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<v Speaker 4>can continue to help moms and cancel abortions, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>So right, but as I mentioned at the top, there

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<v Speaker 2>have been more abortions performed in this country, mostly through

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<v Speaker 2>chemical abortions, than we're going on before the Dobbs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we call we call that the chemical coat hanger.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's a reason for that because basically, now you

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<v Speaker 4>easy to do it, and we've actually done it before

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<v Speaker 4>just to see how easy it is to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's unfortunate, but it's it's even easier now to

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<v Speaker 4>get an abortion in a lot of ways. So so

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<v Speaker 4>we have to provide an alternative to that. You know, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you're touting your abortion solution pill, so kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Go through Yeah, go through that.

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<v Speaker 4>Explain that, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So the so the concept is if somebody is considering abortion,

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<v Speaker 4>then they need an alternative, they need something else, And

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<v Speaker 4>what we offer them is financial support, which is rent, utilities,

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<v Speaker 4>car payments, gas, groceries, whatever is they need, and emotional

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<v Speaker 4>and spiritual support. So we'll connect them with counselors and

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<v Speaker 4>mentors and people that are willing to just walk alongside

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<v Speaker 4>them through their pregnant And we've found that when we're

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<v Speaker 4>partnering with pregnancy health centers, we will effectively reduce abortions

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<v Speaker 4>by ninety eight percent. So that means ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 4>of women that walk into a pregnancy health center that

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<v Speaker 4>we work with will choose life. And that's the statistic

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<v Speaker 4>that has never been seen before.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that make sense, Yeah, it makes sense. What I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wondering is because I've heard about this from other organizations

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<v Speaker 2>that aren't yours, but also are focusing on the mother

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<v Speaker 2>and the baby and stopping the abortions. There's a Compass

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<v Speaker 2>Care organization run out of New York and has offices

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<v Speaker 2>across the country who give women alternatives to aborting their baby,

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<v Speaker 2>killing their baby in utero. But what I'm wondering to

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<v Speaker 2>know as the abortion industry, because this is something people

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily understand or regard it this way, But the

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<v Speaker 2>abortion industry actually exists. It's like the military industrial complex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the abortion infancante in fanticide complex, I call it.

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<v Speaker 2>And they strike out against against organizations like yours. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you met resistance from those people directly with what you're

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<v Speaker 4>It's ironic that you would ask that, because we see

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<v Speaker 4>less resistance than you would think. We see that a

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, maybe the abortionist is so cold hearted that

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<v Speaker 4>he's willing to perform an abortion no matter what, but

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of the staff is not the same. And

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<v Speaker 4>so staff has started to actually send us from Planned

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<v Speaker 4>parenthood clinics women that don't actually want to have abortions

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<v Speaker 4>and just feel forced into having them, becoming more and

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<v Speaker 4>more common for us to receive those referrals from abortion staff,

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<v Speaker 4>and even starting to work a little bit more directly

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<v Speaker 4>with the abortion clinics when they when these women don't

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<v Speaker 4>want abortions, and the reality is that that's ninety eight

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<v Speaker 4>always there. I mean, this is it's a sad and

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<v Speaker 4>difficult reality to comprehend. But if they knew that there

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<v Speaker 4>was an alternative that allowed them to keep their baby,

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<v Speaker 4>then they would choose that ninety eight percent of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, and how did you discover this and and what

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<v Speaker 2>what was the genesis of your organization? I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you and your wife worked together and started this Let

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<v Speaker 2>Them Live, but uh, what what was the fire starter

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<v Speaker 2>for you? What what sparked the idea and what made

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<v Speaker 2>you think you know what, if we can if we

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<v Speaker 2>can get this organization together and get the funding and

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<v Speaker 2>give this economic and spiritual relief to pregnant mothers, then

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<v Speaker 2>they'll wind up keeping their baby. What started it all

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<v Speaker 2>for you and Emily.

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<v Speaker 4>Nathan, Well, I can tell you it definitely did not

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<v Speaker 4>start out as a spiritual thing because I was not

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<v Speaker 4>first met Emily before we got married. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it was just one of our late night discussions about

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<v Speaker 4>abortion where I was explaining to her why I was

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<v Speaker 4>not pro life. And one of the things that came up,

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<v Speaker 4>is we don't have a good alternative to abortion. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think I even said, you know, abortion is a

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<v Speaker 4>a solution. And of course my mind has changed dramatically

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<v Speaker 4>since that point. But I brought up some really important

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<v Speaker 4>points that she confirmed, which is that there wasn't really

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<v Speaker 4>a great alternative. I think at the time I would say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we throw it, we throw diapers at the problem,

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<v Speaker 4>or we say, you know, they should just do it option,

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<v Speaker 4>but we're not really addressing the root cause of abortion.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I wanted to test that out. And one

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<v Speaker 4>time I asked, I asked a young woman, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>why are you having this abortion? And she said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I got kicked out of my apartment. I'm living in

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<v Speaker 4>just can't. I hardly want to live anymore, let alone

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<v Speaker 4>have another child. And so I was like, well, what

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<v Speaker 4>is it going to cost to get back into your apartment?

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<v Speaker 4>And it was basically all the money we had in

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<v Speaker 4>so she canceled her abortion and she chose life. And

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<v Speaker 4>of course after that happened, I still I would say

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<v Speaker 4>that experience. But once I actually held the first baby

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<v Speaker 4>that we saved from abortion, then everything changed for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the scales fell off of my eyes and

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<v Speaker 4>there there was no going back. You know, once you're

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<v Speaker 4>really pro life, your pro life forever, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>do you and Emily have children? No, we actually are

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<v Speaker 4>not able to have children because of just some issues

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<v Speaker 4>with fertility the Emily unfortunately has had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>And but we have adopted embryos, frozen embryos that were

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<v Speaker 4>We actually adopted fifteen frozen embryos that had been frozen

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty years while they were actually older than Emily,

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<v Speaker 4>and we actually we gave them all a chance because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that's what we believed in doing. But they

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<v Speaker 4>thought out and discarded if we hadn't adopted them. And

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<v Speaker 4>so we participated in a it's called the Open Hearts

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<v Speaker 4>program with Nightlight Christian Services, So it's a Christian embryo

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<v Speaker 4>adoption agency and we adopt the snowflake babies is what

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<v Speaker 4>they're called. And unfortunately all of them didn't make it.

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<v Speaker 4>We gave them all a chance, but we did adopt

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<v Speaker 4>ten more embryos to them and we're getting ready to

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<v Speaker 4>transfer a few of those. Emily is going to have

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<v Speaker 4>a few of those transferred here soon.

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<v Speaker 2>So what well will you do in vitro fertilization with

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<v Speaker 4>So it's technically not considered in video fertilization because that's

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<v Speaker 4>the process of creating the embryos. Right Once the embryos

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<v Speaker 4>are created, then there's there's a process of implantation, which

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's it's basically requires you know, the doctor

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<v Speaker 4>inserting like some kind of a device to put the

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<v Speaker 4>pretty miraculous process. You're watching it on the screen and

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<v Speaker 4>you can see the embryos like implanting into the womb.

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<v Speaker 4>You can watch it happen in real time. So they're growing,

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<v Speaker 4>they're not frozen anymore. They're growing and they're getting implanted.

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<v Speaker 4>And Emily and I just believe that we want to

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. Well, here's the issue that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>have with IVF, Nathan, is that so many embryos are

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<v Speaker 2>sacrificed for the few and people who are truly pro

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<v Speaker 2>life believe that life begins at conception, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>actually also babies, these embryos that do not make it

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<v Speaker 2>through the IVF process. I mean, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>the percentages are, but it's crazy how many are destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>just to create one. So how do you feel about

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<v Speaker 2>the whole process of IVF because that has been a

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<v Speaker 2>major point of contention, and Donald Trump has talked about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and these states have decided whether they're going to allow

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<v Speaker 2>IVF or not whether to ban it because many people

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<v Speaker 2>who are staunchly pro life believe that IVF is another

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<v Speaker 2>form of infanticide essentially. I mean, where do you come

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<v Speaker 2>down on that issue? I'm just curious, great question.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, simply, and I believe life begins at conception, which

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<v Speaker 4>is at the point that you know, the sperm and

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<v Speaker 4>the egg combine into an embryo or into his ego,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess is what they call it at that stage.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why we want to help and save these

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<v Speaker 4>embryos that have already been created via IVF. With that said,

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<v Speaker 4>we do not believe in IVF and we do not

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<v Speaker 4>support IVF, and we routinely tell people not to do

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<v Speaker 4>IVF because it's kind of annoying. It's kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>when you're trying to help people to not have abortions.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they're creating a problem that otherwise wouldn't exist.

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<v Speaker 4>So if IBF wasn't happening, then there wouldn't be a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So what about contraception and the preventing of pregnancy

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<v Speaker 2>through the natural act of insemination, sex, whatever you want

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<v Speaker 2>to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean obviously we're we're against a bortifation contraception

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm actually working on a project right now to

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<v Speaker 4>create a new model for the national level for pregnancy

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<v Speaker 4>health clinics that would actually that would compete directly with

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<v Speaker 4>Planned Parenthood in the community, is that Planned Parenthood is

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<v Speaker 4>in for every single one of their clients, and they

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<v Speaker 4>would not offer a bortifation contraception, they would not offer

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<v Speaker 4>gender transition services, and they would not offer abortion. And

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<v Speaker 4>they could be Christian organizations and they can compete for

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<v Speaker 4>the same federal funds the Planned Parenthood is currently receiving,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're working on a model for that that we

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<v Speaker 4>can expand all over the country. We're working with several

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<v Speaker 4>other organizations to create that model. That's the way that

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<v Speaker 4>we defeat Planned Parenthood and chop the head off of

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<v Speaker 4>Goliath is we have to create an alternative. We have

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<v Speaker 4>to address, like you were saying earlier, we have to

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<v Speaker 4>address the market. We have to compete in this industry

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<v Speaker 4>against Planned parenthood because we can't depend on the government

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<v Speaker 4>to solve this problem for us.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, So brass tacks down to the wire here,

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<v Speaker 2>Nathan Burning. How many women has your organization been able

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<v Speaker 2>to help not get an abortion, let them live as

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<v Speaker 2>the name of the organization. What's your count at so far?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so far, we've helped a little over one thousand

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<v Speaker 4>women choose life, and we've had a number of twins

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<v Speaker 4>and triplet babies, so we actually I think it's more

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<v Speaker 4>like one thy fifteen babies and about one thousand women.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we just hit the thousand mark here a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days ago, so we just got to a

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<v Speaker 4>thousd and we're very excited to just keep replicating this

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<v Speaker 4>formula that is working well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a wonderful thing you're doing. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an alternative to killing babies. So babies being

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<v Speaker 2>killed by women who feel like they've got nowhere else

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<v Speaker 2>to turn, and you're giving them that option. How do

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<v Speaker 2>people find out more? How do they maybe help contribute

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<v Speaker 2>to what you're doing if you take donations? What's the

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<v Speaker 2>deal there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we crowdfund for the moms that we help. So

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<v Speaker 4>you go to let them Live dot org, which is

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<v Speaker 4>let them Live dot org. L E T t h

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<v Speaker 4>E M l I ve e dot org. Sorry, some

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<v Speaker 4>people don't know that there's two t's, so I mentioned

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<v Speaker 4>that on the website. We actually talk about each individual mom.

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<v Speaker 4>We have her story and we have to anonymize it

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<v Speaker 4>for her privacy and just in general because these moms

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<v Speaker 4>are going through a terrifying experience. But you can read

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<v Speaker 4>their stories, you can see what their needs are, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Give all right, fantastic. I can't tell you how much

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<v Speaker 2>admiration I have hearing you tell the story and what

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, and you're obviously having some success. Every time

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<v Speaker 2>there is a baby born. This is a blessing from God.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that, and you are helping mothers realize that

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<v Speaker 2>blessing in their lives, and I just can't applaud you more.

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<v Speaker 2>Let them live. Dot org is the organization. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is the great thing about it too, Nathan, is it's individualized.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said, each individual mom is crowdfunded for you

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<v Speaker 2>know what their story is. You may not know their

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<v Speaker 2>name or their identity, but you know what their situation is,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can make your decision based going forward on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wish you a lot of success, continued success,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, Gary. You know it's a one in quadrillion

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<v Speaker 4>chance that each of us would exist. I did the

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<v Speaker 4>calculation myself, and it's a real miracle every time that

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<v Speaker 4>we save a life, and we're so grateful to be

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<v Speaker 4>a part of that. So thank you for the support,

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<v Speaker 4>and I hope to be on again soon.

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<v Speaker 2>One in quadrillion possibility that we're here. How did you

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<v Speaker 2>how did you figure that out? Just by the number

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<v Speaker 2>of sperm and and yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a it's a formula,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I love to create formulas for everything. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>And so it would be it be a long conversation.

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<v Speaker 4>We can definitely talk about this. I'd love to come

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<v Speaker 4>back on and talk about it. But I never even

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<v Speaker 4>thought about it.

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<v Speaker 2>How rare it is that life occurs to begin with Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're the fastest swimmers, We're the best and the

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<v Speaker 2>brightest of the lot, and we make it there first.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy Nathan Burning from let Himlive dot Org. This morning

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<v Speaker 2>on The Scott's Loan Show, Gary Jeffin for sloaning a

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<v Speaker 2>breaking back. Hey hey, hey, Tuesday, Bill Day passed the

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<v Speaker 2>CR and keep the government open. Sometimes I think it'd

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<v Speaker 2>be good if the government closed for a little while.

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<v Speaker 2>Connie and independence real quickly on the subject of IVF.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got about a minute. Connie, what's your question or comment?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I just you know, I'm a Christian as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm against abortion. But to say that you're going

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<v Speaker 5>to talk someone out of IVF, I think is a

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<v Speaker 5>horrible idea. My husband and I had to go through IVF.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a hysterectomy after my first child, and when

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<v Speaker 5>I remarried, he had never been married or had children,

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<v Speaker 5>so because of that, I was not able to carry.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily, we were blessed with.

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<v Speaker 6>An angel, my sister in law who actually.

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<v Speaker 5>Carried our embryo for us, and we were able to

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<v Speaker 5>have two biological, beautiful baby girls. And if you can't

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<v Speaker 5>say that that's an act of.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I don't know you know what else is.

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<v Speaker 2>So hey, listen, God bless you for that, Conny, And

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying is the argument on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>is that all of the embryos that are destroyed in

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<v Speaker 2>the process of creating the embryos that survive is what

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<v Speaker 2>people have a problem with.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and I haint no, I completely understand that. And

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<v Speaker 5>most of the time when that happens, you know, these

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<v Speaker 5>are embryos that were created with genetic defects and when

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<v Speaker 5>not last in the Negro anyway, Yeah, you know, when

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<v Speaker 5>we did that, we had four embryos, three of them

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<v Speaker 5>or two of them made it, we implanted one, and

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<v Speaker 5>the one that is still existing, it's frozen and we're

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<v Speaker 5>hoping to donate that eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>So the point of the matter is you have been

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<v Speaker 2>blessed by God with children absolute and otherwise without that process,

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<v Speaker 2>that would not have happened. And I'm happy for you,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for listening, thanks for calling in news time

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<v Speaker 2>Now seven utter wlw.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to be an American?

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<v Speaker 2>It is no, no, no, no, it's the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do. Do you see playing basketball in

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve Tournament against Oklahoma State, a team that

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<v Speaker 2>just beat the living daylights out of the Bearcats a

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<v Speaker 2>few days ago, And well we'll see where that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>All the action right here on seven utter wlw, right

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<v Speaker 2>around twelve thirty the tip time for that and where

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<v Speaker 2>you see goes from here is either home or onto

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<v Speaker 2>the next round. We're not going to count or chalk

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<v Speaker 2>up a Bearcats loss before it happens. Interesting to see

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<v Speaker 2>what the Bengals have done in the early free agency

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, including re signing p Rnd. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>p Rynd played excellently for the Kansas City Chiefs in

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<v Speaker 2>his spot roles and now we have him back. He

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<v Speaker 2>was always good for picking up that extra yard. He

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<v Speaker 2>could catch the ball out of the backfield successfully, little

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<v Speaker 2>yards after catch. It's never a bad thing for Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow to have more weapons and more choices. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a work in progress. If they don't shore up

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<v Speaker 2>the offensive line, and they re signed Cody Ford, but

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<v Speaker 2>that offensive line is going to have to be bolstered

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 7>To uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, let's see here. Okay, we're going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>little quick change here. We were going to have Savannah

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<v Speaker 2>on with us at ten twenty, but she is ready

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<v Speaker 2>now out of committee, working hard for the tax paying

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<v Speaker 2>voters of the Commonwealth of Kentucky in the sixty first

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<v Speaker 2>district From the Kentucky House, It's Savannah Maddics. Good morning, dear,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning. I'm doing very well. Happy to be on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you've been in committee this morning. So explain to

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<v Speaker 2>me and explain to the average dullard voter like me,

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<v Speaker 2>what's what's it like when the legislature is in session,

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<v Speaker 2>Because you guys aren't there for a long time. There

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<v Speaker 2>are several weeks worth of sessions that you have. But

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<v Speaker 2>explain what when you're when you're busy in committee, what

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<v Speaker 2>what's a full day in Frankfort.

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<v Speaker 6>Like Savannah, you are by no means a dullar.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very involved.

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<v Speaker 6>But that said, the thirty day session, in the sixty

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<v Speaker 6>day session very significantly, and so much as during the

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<v Speaker 6>thirty day we tend to not pass a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>legislation in the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Well sometimes sometimes sometimes not passing a lot of legislation

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<v Speaker 2>is a good thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyway, absolutely, Hey, what what is this that I

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<v Speaker 6>often hear that no man's pocketbook is safe when the

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<v Speaker 6>Kentucky General Assembly is in session. But truly the thirty

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<v Speaker 6>day it begins in January and it stretches out to

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<v Speaker 6>the end of March, and there are thirty days within that.

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<v Speaker 6>But the end of session is when things really start

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<v Speaker 6>to move quickly into fly and you get these sneaky

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<v Speaker 6>committee substitutes whereby a bill will deviate from its original

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<v Speaker 6>version or get another bill added to it, and you

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<v Speaker 6>really got to pay close attention because things move very quickly,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's when the worst bills have a tendency to pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just in that florry and people are ready to

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<v Speaker 2>close the session and they're trying to get something across

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<v Speaker 2>the line that maybe, with time and consideration, would never

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<v Speaker 2>get passed. I get you. Is there a Kentucky doze

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<v Speaker 2>in the works? I've heard talk of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So we've passed that legislation out of committee so far,

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<v Speaker 6>and there's a Senate version as well. And in addition

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<v Speaker 6>to Doze, we have a Range Act, which this is

634
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<v Speaker 6>actually the second Rains Act that I've been able to

635
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<v Speaker 6>vote on since I've been in office. But this version

636
00:38:07.119 --> 00:38:10.519
<v Speaker 6>is intended to really kind of try to rein in

637
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<v Speaker 6>hence the name, some of the administrative regulations that nebulous

638
00:38:15.960 --> 00:38:18.800
<v Speaker 6>web of bureaucracy that we see over in the executive

639
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 6>branch where these are many laws that are being passed

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<v Speaker 6>without legislative approval. So we want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 6>we rain that in because the people's branch of government,

642
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.440
<v Speaker 6>the legislature, that's where our lall should be made, not

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<v Speaker 6>by unelected bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, what else is going on? Is there? Somebody

645
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<v Speaker 2>was telling me about this the other day, and I

646
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<v Speaker 2>want to talk to you because you've been very vocal

647
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<v Speaker 2>about bringing the legal age down for owning a firearm

648
00:38:48.679 --> 00:38:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and having your Second Amendment rights as an American citizen

649
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<v Speaker 2>to eighteen year olds is Kentucky. Do you think that

650
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<v Speaker 2>that will happen eventually? And also did you know about

651
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<v Speaker 2>this social media push that the Governor Andy Bashir has

652
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>been on telling people it's never been a better time

653
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<v Speaker 2>to get your CCW. Of course, in Kentucky, you do

654
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>not need a concealed carry permit to have one, but

655
00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the governor seems to be telling people that it's a

656
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<v Speaker 2>perfect time to get your CCW even though it's not required.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I have not heard about that, But I'm going to

659
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<v Speaker 6>look into that because that is kind of surprising to me.

660
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<v Speaker 6>But as far as lowering the constitutional carriage, that's something

661
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.559
<v Speaker 6>that I've been working on for a multitude of years now,

662
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.920
<v Speaker 6>and we've gotten more momentum behind the issue ever since

663
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<v Speaker 6>the Fifth Circuit decision has kind of propelled that into

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<v Speaker 6>the spotlight. In other words, in Kentucky or other states,

665
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<v Speaker 6>you run into the situation where eventually there's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be litigation and taxpayers would be on the hook for that.

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<v Speaker 6>So we need to do what a multitude of state

668
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<v Speaker 6>have already done and lower that aged eighteen because this

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<v Speaker 6>is a constitutional right. You shouldn't have to be twenty one,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, and I anticipate we're running out of time

671
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<v Speaker 6>this session, but next session I am very hopeful that

672
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<v Speaker 6>we will get some forward momentum on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can be eighteen and vote, you can be

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen and serve your country and die for your country.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that all of the things that are

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<v Speaker 2>legal for twenty one year old should be legal for

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<v Speaker 2>an eighteen year old.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you just said it best. It's pretty amazing to

679
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<v Speaker 6>me that you can go overseas and fight for your

680
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 6>country and whenever you come home you are not able

681
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<v Speaker 6>to carry concealed firearm or have a drink or light

682
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<v Speaker 6>up a cigarette. But I would say the main distinction

683
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<v Speaker 6>among our Second Amendment rights versus the other two things

684
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<v Speaker 6>that you have to be twenty one to do is

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<v Speaker 6>that our Second Amendment right, of course, is protected by

686
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<v Speaker 6>the Constitution. But that said, I one hundred percent agree

687
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<v Speaker 6>that that that's not logical that adults should mean adults,

688
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 6>and we've gotten to a place in society where we

689
00:41:06.559 --> 00:41:12.199
<v Speaker 6>tend to perpetually infantilize young adults further and further. But no,

690
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.960
<v Speaker 6>at eighteen is the age of majority, and we need

691
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<v Speaker 6>to start acting like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, it all started really with Obamacare, when

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<v Speaker 2>they told people in the legislation that your kid was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid until he was twenty six.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I remember that Affordable Care Act.

696
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I remember the Unaffordable Careless Act. Is I like

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<v Speaker 2>to call it all right, Savannah? No big surprises though

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<v Speaker 2>so far?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, actually, I was pretty pleased today because there has

700
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 6>been a bill floating around that relates to the confiscation

701
00:41:48.000 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 6>and destruction of firearms in the event of criminal homicide

702
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 6>and a few other circumstances, and managed to get that

703
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.000
<v Speaker 6>bill killed today. So that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 6>I tell folks is the way I just played a session,

705
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 6>it's just as much about killing bad bills as it

706
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 6>is passing good bills. So I consider that to be

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<v Speaker 6>a victory in addition to a few other select victories

708
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 6>this go around. And it's still early in terms of

709
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:16.840
<v Speaker 6>killing bad bills. There's a lot of work left to

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<v Speaker 6>do on that front.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill those bad bills and we'll get an update from

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00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>you soon. All right, absolutely, Savannah Mattics from the sixty

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<v Speaker 2>first District and the Commonwealth of Kentucky working hard for

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00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 2>us on that side of the Ohio River. Gary jeff

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<v Speaker 2>In for Sloane Lee Shi Lemish will join us next.

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<v Speaker 8>Nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>All righty, as we continue on this Tuesday morning on

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<v Speaker 2>the Scott Slan Shaw, one real quick question for we

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<v Speaker 2>need to get to our next guest, Jeff and Claremont County.

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<v Speaker 2>You're telling me about the benefits of concealed carry. My

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00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:56.679
<v Speaker 2>point to Savannah was in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. You

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<v Speaker 2>do not need a concealed carry license to conceal carry,

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<v Speaker 2>was the point.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true, Carrie, Yeah, and it's the same in the

725
00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 3>state of Ohio. But I've been a long time concealed

726
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.000
<v Speaker 3>carrier and I wasn't going to renew mine, but I

727
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.960
<v Speaker 3>was informed by local police who I know that if

728
00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 3>I do not have a concealed carry, legally, I cannot

729
00:43:18.320 --> 00:43:21.679
<v Speaker 3>carry outside the state of Ohio. So because the state

730
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.400
<v Speaker 3>of Ohio has reciprocal agreements with other states, I would

731
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<v Speaker 3>now be legal in those states because of my Ohio

732
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:32.119
<v Speaker 3>concealed carry. Now, I don't know if that would work

733
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 3>for Kentucky, but I do know that that was the

734
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:38.639
<v Speaker 3>reason I renewed mine. I even verified by calling a

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00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:41.480
<v Speaker 3>couple other states that I be able to and I

736
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<v Speaker 3>was told to guess, if you've got a valid Ohio

737
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 3>concealed carry, you can legally carry in our state. But

738
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<v Speaker 3>if you do not have one, you would have to

739
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 3>get a permit for that state or you would be illegal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean, if you go to Illinois state

741
00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 2>like that, you better you better darn well have your

742
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>con seal carry because they will arrest you on the

743
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<v Speaker 2>spot for just driving a car in that state unless

744
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<v Speaker 2>you've got some kind of permit. But that's the difference

745
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<v Speaker 2>between that's the difference between free states and criminal communist states.

746
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<v Speaker 3>Jeff exactly. But that was the only reason I got mine,

747
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 3>that I didn't want to get the handle with those states.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, there you go, good point, Thank you

749
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<v Speaker 2>very much. Next is Lee Shai Lamis. She is a

750
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<v Speaker 2>MC for Shen Yun. You may have seen the posters

751
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 2>an that a month ago at the Air and Off.

752
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>You may have seen the performance by Shen Yun. It's

753
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.480
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful celebration of like five thousand years of Chinese

754
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:45.400
<v Speaker 2>culture before communism, and the Communist Chinese Party is not

755
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:51.440
<v Speaker 2>happy with those performances even in America. And Lee Shai

756
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 2>can tell you about the travails of having to deal

757
00:44:56.599 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 2>with all kinds of sabotage and threats that they have

758
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>based in our country from the Communist Chinese. Leshai, good morning,

759
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:07.719
<v Speaker 2>how are you. How's the tour going?

760
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<v Speaker 4>Good morning?

761
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:14.599
<v Speaker 7>The tour itself, the performances themselves are great, they're going smoothly.

762
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:16.400
<v Speaker 7>It's the rest of it that we have to deal

763
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:18.320
<v Speaker 7>with that's been quite an adventure. So far.

764
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<v Speaker 2>How do you know it's the Communist Chinese Party that

765
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 2>is perpetrating all of this mayhem and sabotage on things

766
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:30.800
<v Speaker 2>like tour buses being slashed with slash tires, bomb threats.

767
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.119
<v Speaker 2>How do you know it's the CCP?

768
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:35.800
<v Speaker 7>Leisha, Yeah, well, you got to go back to the

769
00:45:35.880 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 7>very beginning of how Shinyin was founded in two thousand

770
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:41.440
<v Speaker 7>and six in New York, and when the day we

771
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 7>were founded that very first tour, and I was there

772
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:47.199
<v Speaker 7>from the very beginning eighteen years ago. The CCP was

773
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.159
<v Speaker 7>always trying to sabotage and interfere with what we're doing.

774
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:51.880
<v Speaker 7>The first thing they did is they would have their

775
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:55.599
<v Speaker 7>ambassadors and their consul generals go to the theaters right

776
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:58.599
<v Speaker 7>to them, call them here in the US and say,

777
00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:00.519
<v Speaker 7>do not allow Sheen to perform this. It's an anti

778
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 7>China show. It's a celebration of traditional Chinese culture, mind you,

779
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 7>but yeah, this is an anti China show, and we

780
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:09.639
<v Speaker 7>will revoke our sister city relationship. You'll have the economic repercussion,

781
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 7>we will not bring Chinese performing arts companies. So they're

782
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.480
<v Speaker 7>trying all that stuff. Then when that didn't work, they

783
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 7>tried to put articles attacking us in newspapers like the

784
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.239
<v Speaker 7>Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post. They had this

785
00:46:20.360 --> 00:46:23.559
<v Speaker 7>insert called the China Watch and that was basically paid

786
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 7>advertisement by the CCP coming sea out of China Daily,

787
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 7>and it was propaganda, but it was masquerading his articles.

788
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:32.159
<v Speaker 7>And if you didn't look carefully at the fine print

789
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:33.840
<v Speaker 7>and you just read the paper, you think, oh, this

790
00:46:33.880 --> 00:46:35.960
<v Speaker 7>is the Washington Post writing about China. Why doesn't it

791
00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 7>sound like the Chinese Embassy. And then when that failed,

792
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:42.239
<v Speaker 7>they would have hackers try to hack our ticketing sites

793
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 7>and shut down our website and my email and my

794
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.039
<v Speaker 7>LinkedIn account and all this stuff. And then they had

795
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:51.199
<v Speaker 7>people putting reviews online copy pasting them. They have this

796
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:53.880
<v Speaker 7>thing called the fifty cent Army, which I guess they

797
00:46:53.960 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 7>get paid fifty Chinese cents per post, and they just,

798
00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:00.119
<v Speaker 7>you know, thousands of these people posting all over the reviews.

799
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.599
<v Speaker 7>And then lately what we've seen is starting last year,

800
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.840
<v Speaker 7>we got leaked documents from China for the Ministry of

801
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:11.000
<v Speaker 7>State Security saying that they have an endgame type strategy

802
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 7>against Chinyan performing arts and the broader dissident and especially

803
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:19.320
<v Speaker 7>the follow going practitioner community in the United States and

804
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:21.639
<v Speaker 7>they want to crush it once and for all, and

805
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 7>they're going to escalate. And one of the things they

806
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:28.239
<v Speaker 7>talked about doing was supporting some social media influencers that

807
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 7>were assets to try to get their narratives out against Chinyun,

808
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.960
<v Speaker 7>to try to weaponize mainstream media like The New York Times,

809
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 7>to attack Shinyun, to try to start frivolous lawsuits against

810
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 7>the company. And as these things are happening, this is

811
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:43.960
<v Speaker 7>when we're getting a death threat. So we got twenty

812
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 7>something of them this year alone, different theaters that have

813
00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 7>received and these are all pranks, their scare tactics.

814
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't wasn't there wasn't there a wasn't there a bomb

815
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:55.559
<v Speaker 2>threat at the Kennedy Center.

816
00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:59.079
<v Speaker 7>The Kennedy Center, Yeah, yep, I was there two weeks ago.

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00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.119
<v Speaker 7>We're getting ready for first show at the Kenney Center,

818
00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 7>right the heart of the United States. You know, we

819
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 7>know who's in charge of the board there now, and

820
00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.639
<v Speaker 7>you know, right in the center of DC, and we're

821
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:11.400
<v Speaker 7>getting ready to set up and the fire alarm goes

822
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:13.760
<v Speaker 7>off and they say this is not a drill. Evacuated immediately.

823
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.000
<v Speaker 7>And as they're pushing us around the buildings. I'm thinking,

824
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<v Speaker 7>this is not a firearm, this is something more serious,

825
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:21.599
<v Speaker 7>and sure enough, we're standing.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside in the cold.

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<v Speaker 7>It was twenty degree weather there for three hours. The

828
00:48:24.519 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 7>whole conflicts. Multiple performing arts companies were rehearsing and getting

829
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 7>ready to perform, and yeah, it was a bomb threat

830
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:34.000
<v Speaker 7>targeting shiny In And then they brought the canines. They

831
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:36.679
<v Speaker 7>all the police was there, they searched everything, they did

832
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.199
<v Speaker 7>all the stuff that they do. There's nothing, there's never anything.

833
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 7>They're just trying to scare people. And then we had

834
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<v Speaker 7>to scramble get the show ready on time, and we

835
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 7>performed on time, no problem. Had twelve shows there. We're

836
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<v Speaker 7>heading all over the United States this weekend again and

837
00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:53.760
<v Speaker 7>we'll be in Louisville, I think in April. But yeah,

838
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:55.079
<v Speaker 7>this is one of the things that we're dealing with

839
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.119
<v Speaker 7>right now, and I want people to know there's nothing

840
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.400
<v Speaker 7>actually a no actual threat. But we are facing this

841
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.360
<v Speaker 7>tremendous pressure from the Chinese commerce party in media and

842
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.679
<v Speaker 7>they're trying to do these like lawt air lawsuits against

843
00:49:07.719 --> 00:49:11.119
<v Speaker 7>us for all these things. At our home base here

844
00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 7>in New York, a couple hours outside the city in

845
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 7>the Hudson valley. They kept trying to file environmental lawsuits

846
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:19.840
<v Speaker 7>saying we're polluting, and they kept getting dismissed. And the

847
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 7>last one got dismissed with prejudice, which means you can't

848
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 7>you can't even file it against But guess what. The

849
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 7>DJ last year, with the tremendous work of an FBI team,

850
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:33.960
<v Speaker 7>were able to fight two Chinese spies who were behind this.

851
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.360
<v Speaker 7>And they were in their indictment they said, you know,

852
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:40.320
<v Speaker 7>in their in court they said that they were getting

853
00:49:40.400 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 7>orders directing from a PRC official who was telling about

854
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:44.320
<v Speaker 7>to do. And one of the things they were supposed

855
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.920
<v Speaker 7>to do was get these lawsuits against NY and against

856
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.840
<v Speaker 7>our headquarters here. And they ended up catching them because

857
00:49:51.880 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 7>the spy tried to bribe what he thought was an

858
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:58.239
<v Speaker 7>IRS official to try to rebook our nonprofit status. Turned

859
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.280
<v Speaker 7>out that was an FBI and the cover agent got

860
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.639
<v Speaker 7>them on that. But they've been operating here for years.

861
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:04.840
<v Speaker 7>They probably got them. This is the tip of the iceberg.

862
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 7>We don't know how many CCP spies are out here.

863
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, here's the thing. During Biden's open border for the

864
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:16.320
<v Speaker 2>last four years, tens of thousands of military age Chinese

865
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:20.599
<v Speaker 2>young men came into our country illegally across the border.

866
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 2>What do you think the chances are these are CCP spies,

867
00:50:24.960 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Because if you come from China, the government of China

868
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.039
<v Speaker 2>has to pretty much give you permission to let you

869
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 2>out of the country in the first place.

870
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 7>Right, Yeah, I mean, I think it would be naive

871
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:38.360
<v Speaker 7>to assume that there are not a lot of spies.

872
00:50:38.559 --> 00:50:40.039
<v Speaker 7>I think we have to assume that many of them

873
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:42.639
<v Speaker 7>were certainly a lot of people who are just looking

874
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.679
<v Speaker 7>for financial opportunity. But you look at any Chinese national

875
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 7>when they come to the US and they have family

876
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 7>back in China, they have to keep an eye out

877
00:50:51.400 --> 00:50:54.719
<v Speaker 7>for what the embassy is interested in in following. So,

878
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.840
<v Speaker 7>for example, Chinese students, they have these Chinese Students and

879
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.760
<v Speaker 7>Scholar associations. There's over one hundreds of across the country

880
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.039
<v Speaker 7>at CSSA, and they're run by the Chinese Embassy and Confluence.

881
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 7>It's in their charter. And they're the ones who organize

882
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:11.760
<v Speaker 7>these welcome parades for cigping with the flags, the cancer protests,

883
00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 7>that kind of stuff. They're all the ones behind it.

884
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.679
<v Speaker 7>If you don't do that, they can revoke your your

885
00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:18.519
<v Speaker 7>ability to study in the United States. They can get

886
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:20.239
<v Speaker 7>your family back in China. In trouble, you might be

887
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 7>arrested and you go.

888
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:21.639
<v Speaker 1>Back to China.

889
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:24.079
<v Speaker 7>I know that all the performers in our company, the

890
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:27.599
<v Speaker 7>Chinese nationals who have a lot of them, become naturalized

891
00:51:27.599 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 7>since they can't go back to China. Everybody's blacklisted. I'm

892
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 7>blacklisted in China. I try to get into Hong Kong.

893
00:51:31.800 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 7>One time they stopped me at the airport. And so

894
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.400
<v Speaker 7>there's a lot of pressure that you don't need to

895
00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.239
<v Speaker 7>necessarily be a full time on salary kind of you know,

896
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 7>James Bond villain type spy to work for the CCP.

897
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.039
<v Speaker 7>You can just be a regular man with a career.

898
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.000
<v Speaker 7>But if you want to go back to China and

899
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:49.840
<v Speaker 7>see your family, or you want to not get in trouble,

900
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:51.440
<v Speaker 7>you have to report on certain things, you have to

901
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:52.159
<v Speaker 7>do certain.

902
00:51:51.920 --> 00:51:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Things that time.

903
00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.199
<v Speaker 2>There you go, Lee Shailmish, thank you. Shn Yun continues

904
00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:59.320
<v Speaker 2>its tour across the country. In Louisville, you say in April,

905
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 2>I've never seen the show, but I've heard people who have,

906
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:06.199
<v Speaker 2>and it's just absolutely magic. It's about Chinese culture, five

907
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:09.639
<v Speaker 2>thousand years of it. Before the Communist Party took over

908
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:13.079
<v Speaker 2>and the Communist Party is not happy that that history

909
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is being shared in America and across the world. Thank

910
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you so much, Lesha, I appreciate your time. Thank you

911
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:23.880
<v Speaker 2>all right news and then Matt Mauning a collector's collector

912
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:30.519
<v Speaker 2>in studio coming up on seven ounther WLW. As we

913
00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 2>continue along the way on this Tuesday, before you see

914
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.639
<v Speaker 2>tournament basketball pregame at noon and then the game at

915
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.599
<v Speaker 2>twelve thirty against Oklahoma State on the home of the Bearcats,

916
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:45.119
<v Speaker 2>Gary Jeffin Forsloani, who's not dead, he's just incapacitated today

917
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:47.639
<v Speaker 2>and I'm glad he is because it gives me the

918
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:50.400
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to welcome into the studio. A guy that I

919
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:53.440
<v Speaker 2>met several years ago came into the bar actually when

920
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>I was bar attending, and we talked, and he'd heard

921
00:52:57.159 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>me on the air and said, we had, you know,

922
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:03.519
<v Speaker 2>some some at least philosophical things in common. It was

923
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>an ex Cincinnati cop. But these days he is what

924
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 2>I call the collector's collector, and he has shown me

925
00:53:09.679 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 2>some amazing things that he has bought and then many

926
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.920
<v Speaker 2>cases sold over the years. And he's here with us now.

927
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:22.599
<v Speaker 2>Matt Manning, how are you doing, man, Well there you go,

928
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 2>now I can hear you. Yeah, get somebody to turn

929
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:30.760
<v Speaker 2>on your mic. So when did you start this collect

930
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:34.000
<v Speaker 2>the collecting thing? When did you see this was a

931
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 2>ticket for the rest of your life and a way

932
00:53:37.239 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 2>to make money, but also a way to acquire some

933
00:53:39.679 --> 00:53:40.679
<v Speaker 2>really cool stuff.

934
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.719
<v Speaker 9>When did this all start? You have to go back

935
00:53:44.719 --> 00:53:46.760
<v Speaker 9>to when I was a real little kid. And back then,

936
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 9>I mean, it wasn't the business that it is today.

937
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 9>It was just more of a collectible saying that you

938
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.519
<v Speaker 9>would you know, you go to the ballpark and you know,

939
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 9>you collect different things. But you know, I was born

940
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:58.719
<v Speaker 9>in sixty eight, you know, like seventy three. There's a

941
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:00.920
<v Speaker 9>place called the five eighty Gift Shop. You know, anyone

942
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 9>here in Cincinnati will probably remember that, okay, you know,

943
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:07.079
<v Speaker 9>and you know back then when they first opened it up,

944
00:54:07.159 --> 00:54:09.320
<v Speaker 9>I said, you know, they just weren't sure you because

945
00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 9>they knew there was people collecting things, and they just

946
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:14.280
<v Speaker 9>didn't know you know what, you know how rabid it was.

947
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 9>You know how many people really you know, love this stuff.

948
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 9>You know, so I'd work and everything, you know, when

949
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:20.760
<v Speaker 9>you know it's like five six years old. You know

950
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:23.360
<v Speaker 9>what I could do earning, you know, the runney around

951
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:26.000
<v Speaker 9>that neighborhood, you know, doing things for all the elderly people,

952
00:54:26.000 --> 00:54:27.599
<v Speaker 9>you know. You see, you know, you get a couple

953
00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 9>of bucks in your pocket, right and I go down

954
00:54:31.079 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 9>you know, yeah, I go down there, you know, and

955
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.280
<v Speaker 9>my mom at that point, Yeah, she'd give you ten

956
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:37.840
<v Speaker 9>dollars to spend, you know, which is nineteen seventy three.

957
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 9>I mean that's a ton of money, you know. Yeah,

958
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:42.920
<v Speaker 9>you know, but I can use an extra ten today

959
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:44.239
<v Speaker 9>if you want to spare it.

960
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:44.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

961
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

962
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:47.679
<v Speaker 9>You tell people about this and they don't believe you,

963
00:54:47.760 --> 00:54:49.440
<v Speaker 9>but you go down the five eighty gift shop and

964
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 9>you know, they would It was just it was like

965
00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:53.320
<v Speaker 9>operating out of a broom closet, you know, and you

966
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 9>go down there and yeah, they'd have all these baseball

967
00:54:56.280 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 9>bats in there. They'd have one side was a visiting team,

968
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.400
<v Speaker 9>the other side was the home team, you know, and

969
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:02.960
<v Speaker 9>you guys would crack a bat or something during the game,

970
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 9>you know, taken out of play and in a different bat. Well,

971
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 9>they started taking those bats to the five eighty gift shop,

972
00:55:09.320 --> 00:55:11.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, and they put prices on them. So on

973
00:55:11.880 --> 00:55:13.679
<v Speaker 9>the red side, you know, you know, there was like,

974
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.679
<v Speaker 9>you know, Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan.

975
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:18.639
<v Speaker 9>You're gonna pay a little bit extra for those guys,

976
00:55:18.639 --> 00:55:21.639
<v Speaker 9>the guys that were stars. Everyone else was five dollars,

977
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:24.039
<v Speaker 9>you know, the stars were ten dollars.

978
00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:24.360
<v Speaker 10>You know.

979
00:55:24.760 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 9>Anyone on the visiting side was five dollars. It didn't

980
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.599
<v Speaker 9>matter who it was. You get a Willy May's bat, really, stargel,

981
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.719
<v Speaker 9>whatever you wanted, you know, for five bucks.

982
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:34.000
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, you know.

983
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.599
<v Speaker 9>And but that was the crazy lady thought we were

984
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 9>crazy because she was just like, why are you wasting

985
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:40.920
<v Speaker 9>your hard earned money on stuff that we would just

986
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.599
<v Speaker 9>throw away? You know, they didn't understand, you know, why

987
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.559
<v Speaker 9>why are you buying these baseball bats?

988
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You know well, I mean at that point, you weren't

989
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:51.159
<v Speaker 2>even thinking about making money. They were just cool collectibles.

990
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 2>These are the tools that the stars used that we

991
00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:57.519
<v Speaker 2>watch and now we've got a piece of them in

992
00:55:57.559 --> 00:55:59.000
<v Speaker 2>our hands. That's that's all.

993
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 8>It was exactly, you know.

994
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.719
<v Speaker 9>And my older brother, you know, he was ten years older,

995
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:04.559
<v Speaker 9>you know, so he's in his teenage years, and they

996
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 9>had something called Sports Collector's Digest, and it was like

997
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:08.719
<v Speaker 9>in the back of it, you know, people from all

998
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:11.320
<v Speaker 9>over the country would have ads in there with phone

999
00:56:11.400 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 9>numbers you could call, and that's basically you know, people

1000
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.039
<v Speaker 9>would trade among themselves that way.

1001
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.880
<v Speaker 8>You know. Then it started to become selling and things

1002
00:56:18.960 --> 00:56:19.320
<v Speaker 8>like that.

1003
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 9>But my brother and my other and his friend, they

1004
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:23.960
<v Speaker 9>would drag me down to the five eighty gift shop

1005
00:56:24.039 --> 00:56:26.639
<v Speaker 9>because they were already teenagers at that point, and some

1006
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 9>of the players were to understand that, you know, hey,

1007
00:56:28.840 --> 00:56:31.320
<v Speaker 9>these guys are getting these autographed cards and they're selling them,

1008
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:33.400
<v Speaker 9>making money off, you know, when we sell something to

1009
00:56:33.480 --> 00:56:35.880
<v Speaker 9>sign a card for him. So they didn't like signing

1010
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.400
<v Speaker 9>for the teenage guys. But I was like six years old,

1011
00:56:38.440 --> 00:56:40.599
<v Speaker 9>you know, So my brother would give me a handful

1012
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 9>of cards. You know, hey, hey there's Oscar gamb We'll

1013
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:44.480
<v Speaker 9>go over and get his car. Get this sign, get

1014
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:46.639
<v Speaker 9>this sign, get this sign, you know or whatever.

1015
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 8>Player.

1016
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 2>So they'd warm up to the little kids, not the teenager.

1017
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:50.320
<v Speaker 8>They'd do it for the kids.

1018
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:52.719
<v Speaker 9>But they didn't really like signing too much for teenagers,

1019
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:55.320
<v Speaker 9>you know, because they realized that if it was starting

1020
00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 9>to become a monetary thing, they weren't doing it because

1021
00:56:57.559 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 9>they were actually big fans.

1022
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:00.000
<v Speaker 8>They were doing it to go make a bus.

1023
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:03.159
<v Speaker 2>I tell this story all the time. Mat. When I

1024
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:07.159
<v Speaker 2>was a little kid growing up in suburban Chicago, late sixties,

1025
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>about the time you were born, we collected baseball cards

1026
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:13.280
<v Speaker 2>like almost any kid did at the time, you know,

1027
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>and they sell them with a pack of gum. You know,

1028
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.119
<v Speaker 2>you've spent a quarter on the latest set of tops

1029
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:23.000
<v Speaker 2>baseball cards or whoever it was. And I had an

1030
00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Earnie Banks rookie card that I traded with somebody, you

1031
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:30.159
<v Speaker 2>know where it went in the spokes of my bicycle's

1032
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:32.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what we used to do with baseball cards when

1033
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 2>we were kids. Put so it made that clock sound.

1034
00:57:35.360 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 2>We thought we were cool. We were just burning money

1035
00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 2>up that we could have realized later on.

1036
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:41.880
<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, I mean just think all the stuff that

1037
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.719
<v Speaker 9>you know, people went through their bike spokes, you know,

1038
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:45.800
<v Speaker 9>or even like with it. Like in our family, my mom,

1039
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.440
<v Speaker 9>you know, we had six kids, you know, so it

1040
00:57:47.480 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 9>was a cramped house to begin with. Her rule for

1041
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.239
<v Speaker 9>me and my brother was a simple fact was you're

1042
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.239
<v Speaker 9>not going to buy any cards for this year until

1043
00:57:54.280 --> 00:57:57.360
<v Speaker 9>you throw last year's in the garbage oz So you

1044
00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.320
<v Speaker 9>had to get rid of the year before before you

1045
00:57:59.320 --> 00:58:00.719
<v Speaker 9>were allowed to buy anything else.

1046
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Now you brought you brought a Willy May's bat in here,

1047
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 2>a Louisville slugger. Obviously this is radio. People can't see you.

1048
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, but what what do you value that at

1049
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:12.840
<v Speaker 2>on a collector's market, something like that.

1050
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:15.760
<v Speaker 9>Like a Willie May's bat like this, I mean, you know,

1051
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.000
<v Speaker 9>it's this be considered lower end. I mean, it's still

1052
00:58:19.039 --> 00:58:21.079
<v Speaker 9>his nails back in the barrel, which they used to

1053
00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.920
<v Speaker 9>do back then. And they know, up and down, even

1054
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:25.239
<v Speaker 9>up until about the mid seventies, they'd still repair their

1055
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:26.679
<v Speaker 9>bats by putting nails in them.

1056
00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 8>I mean Willie May's bat.

1057
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 9>You know, it probably starts off and around you know,

1058
00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 9>forty five hundred, five thousand dollars, and it can go

1059
00:58:33.639 --> 00:58:35.880
<v Speaker 9>up to and go up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.

1060
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It's like anything else. It's conditioned, condition condition.

1061
00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:39.880
<v Speaker 8>It's condition condition condition.

1062
00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.760
<v Speaker 9>And then with today's technology, I said, and now they've

1063
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 9>added all these other different things and they add value

1064
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.719
<v Speaker 9>to a baseball bat. You know, so you got specific

1065
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.239
<v Speaker 9>marks on bats, and with today's photography and film, you know,

1066
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 9>they can actually say, okay, well that bat was used

1067
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 9>to hit home run number five fifty five you.

1068
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 8>Know, or whatever.

1069
00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:59.199
<v Speaker 9>So when you can match a baseball bat up to

1070
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.239
<v Speaker 9>a home runs specific home run off of a star player.

1071
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>That increases the value.

1072
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:04.079
<v Speaker 8>It increases the.

1073
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:06.199
<v Speaker 9>Value big time. But you know the problem is, I mean,

1074
00:59:06.239 --> 00:59:08.440
<v Speaker 9>it's like everything else. They everyone, they figured out in

1075
00:59:08.480 --> 00:59:11.559
<v Speaker 9>this business how to make money off everything. Just because

1076
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:13.239
<v Speaker 9>you know it was done, you were at the game

1077
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:15.119
<v Speaker 9>and it was given to you or whatever, that doesn't

1078
00:59:15.159 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 9>mean squat. You got to send it into a company

1079
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:20.199
<v Speaker 9>called PSA, you know, and you have to where they have.

1080
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:21.880
<v Speaker 8>You have to get it papered, is what they say.

1081
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:24.719
<v Speaker 2>Sentimental value is not dollar valet.

1082
00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 9>It doesn't matter about that what story you want to

1083
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.480
<v Speaker 9>put with it. Nothing I said, and everything has to

1084
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 9>be proven, you know.

1085
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 2>So there's a little coin in a box right here.

1086
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:34.599
<v Speaker 2>Explain what this is.

1087
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 8>This is a silver pass what do you mean?

1088
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Silver pass to what.

1089
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:40.800
<v Speaker 9>They're called lifetime passes, and mainly all the big wigs

1090
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.079
<v Speaker 9>with each of the teams, you know, presidents of the club,

1091
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 9>friends at the club, you know, managers and things like that.

1092
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.679
<v Speaker 9>Star players when they retire, you know, they're given what

1093
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:51.880
<v Speaker 9>they called a silver pass.

1094
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.079
<v Speaker 8>You know, this is a round one.

1095
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:54.599
<v Speaker 9>But this is like a real early one from the

1096
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:57.480
<v Speaker 9>Cincinnati Reds from eighteen ninety six. It's like the earliest

1097
00:59:57.519 --> 01:00:00.079
<v Speaker 9>one now, eighteen eighteen ninety six.

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01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 2>What would be the value on something like that?

1099
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 8>Man, it runs a game? And I said, right now,

1100
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:05.679
<v Speaker 8>about five.

1101
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Grand, no know, just that little round coin.

1102
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:10.679
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, And that's this most people would Most people do

1103
01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:13.360
<v Speaker 9>is they'll go, like today today's day ay technology. You

1104
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:14.760
<v Speaker 9>just get on your phone or you go on a

1105
01:00:14.800 --> 01:00:17.599
<v Speaker 9>computer and you check out all these different sports auctions,

1106
01:00:17.599 --> 01:00:19.360
<v Speaker 9>you know, so people will try to find out, you know,

1107
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.039
<v Speaker 9>what did this sell for you know, or was it

1108
01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 9>ever in an auction? You know, so they look everything

1109
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 9>up and people go by that. But what I tell

1110
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.280
<v Speaker 9>people is this, you can't go buy the latest auction price.

1111
01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 9>That's that's by who knew it was in that auction,

1112
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:33.400
<v Speaker 9>who was watching at the time, you know, who had

1113
01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:34.280
<v Speaker 9>the money to buy it.

1114
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:34.599
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1115
01:00:34.760 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 9>I said, I can buy things out of an auction

1116
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:39.679
<v Speaker 9>for four hundred dollars, give it to a different auction,

1117
01:00:40.199 --> 01:00:42.400
<v Speaker 9>and it'll sell for eight thousand dollars, you know, And

1118
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.920
<v Speaker 9>I've done I've done it before. I mean, it's that's

1119
01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.960
<v Speaker 9>basically how I try to make a living as yell

1120
01:00:47.719 --> 01:00:50.000
<v Speaker 9>I deal with a bunch of different auctions. Find something

1121
01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:51.920
<v Speaker 9>in one, you get a great price on it. So

1122
01:00:52.039 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 9>to me, what's somebody So, what's something sold for? And

1123
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:58.119
<v Speaker 9>it's all it's sold really low. It's only worth this.

1124
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:01.320
<v Speaker 8>Well, no it's not. I said, things just you know,

1125
01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:02.800
<v Speaker 8>go through the cracks like it's.

1126
01:01:02.599 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 9>Worth whatever somebody's willing to pay for. Exactly, it's worth

1127
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:07.519
<v Speaker 9>what someone's willing to pay, you know. And a lot

1128
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:10.599
<v Speaker 9>of times they'll have a wrong description on something, you know,

1129
01:01:10.639 --> 01:01:13.320
<v Speaker 9>they'll have it totally wrong, and that'll turn off most

1130
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 9>of the collectors or something, and you know you'll be

1131
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 9>able to swoop in and get it for a decent price.

1132
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Tell me about the Pete Rose cap that you brought in.

1133
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:21.719
<v Speaker 2>It's his rookie camp.

1134
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:25.480
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's Pete Rose's nineteen sixty three rookie cap.

1135
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:26.719
<v Speaker 8>You know, it's kind of neat.

1136
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:28.199
<v Speaker 2>So where did you find that?

1137
01:01:29.480 --> 01:01:30.960
<v Speaker 9>I got it from one of the one of the

1138
01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:33.039
<v Speaker 9>best guys in the business that I know. Him and

1139
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.360
<v Speaker 9>his dad were just huge Pete Rose fans, you know,

1140
01:01:35.400 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 9>and they actually knew Pete Rose, you know. So they

1141
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 9>had a ton of stuff of his and his name

1142
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:42.639
<v Speaker 9>was a Sam Smith and Chris Smith, you know, and

1143
01:01:42.679 --> 01:01:45.639
<v Speaker 9>anyone in the Cincinnati area knows his name. I mean,

1144
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 9>he's just just a known expert on this stuff. So

1145
01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 9>he didn't run a brick and mortar shop or do

1146
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.159
<v Speaker 9>anything until recently.

1147
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:52.599
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1148
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 9>He was like me, just operating out of his car,

1149
01:01:55.280 --> 01:01:58.360
<v Speaker 9>running around buying and selling, going to different shows, doing everything.

1150
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:00.800
<v Speaker 9>And I guess now now these and older, he kind

1151
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 9>of settled down and he went ahead and opened his

1152
01:02:02.920 --> 01:02:05.920
<v Speaker 9>own shop, you know. So this is where I got

1153
01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.559
<v Speaker 9>that cap from, along with me basically the majority of

1154
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:10.320
<v Speaker 9>my collection. You know, he's the only guy in the

1155
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.000
<v Speaker 9>business that would deal with me, you know, because I

1156
01:02:12.039 --> 01:02:14.320
<v Speaker 9>said I was an ex cop, so there's a lot

1157
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:16.119
<v Speaker 9>of a lot of garbage that went along with that,

1158
01:02:16.199 --> 01:02:18.559
<v Speaker 9>and he was the only guy that would deal with me,

1159
01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 9>you know. But I mean, he just he does it

1160
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:24.639
<v Speaker 9>at a different level than me. And he's got so

1161
01:02:24.719 --> 01:02:26.800
<v Speaker 9>many people because he's been He's younger than me, but

1162
01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:29.039
<v Speaker 9>he he knows more people because of the way he's

1163
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 9>done his business and the way he's done things. And

1164
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:33.840
<v Speaker 9>it's like anything you do today, it's networking, you know,

1165
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.440
<v Speaker 9>so you know, you knowledgeable, you know, you need something

1166
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 9>anything sports related I mean, the guy's like a walking encyclopedia,

1167
01:02:41.480 --> 01:02:44.880
<v Speaker 9>so you sports related, historical related, you know.

1168
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:46.800
<v Speaker 8>But he's not just a collector, I said. You know,

1169
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:48.039
<v Speaker 8>he sells too, you know.

1170
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.320
<v Speaker 2>So does the value of something like that Rickie Camp

1171
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 2>does it go up now that pizza no longer around?

1172
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Because for the most part, like like I talked to

1173
01:02:56.599 --> 01:03:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a record appraiser, vinyl appraiser, and just because somebody is dead,

1174
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:01.719
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't.

1175
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:05.840
<v Speaker 9>Mean the item's worth more. But yeah, the situation like that. Yeah,

1176
01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:08.079
<v Speaker 9>it's different in the sports world. In the art world,

1177
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 9>you know. I mean they always tell you, you know,

1178
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:12.639
<v Speaker 9>there's no successful or good artist and except a dead artist.

1179
01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:16.199
<v Speaker 8>You know. It's kind of the same way with baseball style.

1180
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:18.000
<v Speaker 2>Wonder if I wonder if that will happen when Hunter

1181
01:03:18.039 --> 01:03:23.039
<v Speaker 2>Biden passed. Yeah, now you've shown me some other things

1182
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:24.920
<v Speaker 2>in the past, and I wanted to ask you about

1183
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.440
<v Speaker 2>historical items, like there was a check I guess from

1184
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Abraham Lincoln that you were showing me.

1185
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, no, not, I have a check from Babe Ruth.

1186
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.559
<v Speaker 9>And then it was yes, there's a it's an election ballot.

1187
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:39.239
<v Speaker 9>Oh what an election ballot?

1188
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:39.400
<v Speaker 1>When?

1189
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:41.880
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when Lincoln was first elected and in the second.

1190
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 2>In eighteen sixty and eighteen sixty four.

1191
01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, and it's just the election ballots. In fact, it's

1192
01:03:46.239 --> 01:03:48.519
<v Speaker 9>in the in the briefcase here. Yeah, that brought you know,

1193
01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:51.280
<v Speaker 9>so tell me about it. How did you acquire it?

1194
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 9>And what do you think you could get for it.

1195
01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:56.599
<v Speaker 9>I'm just curious the same thing I said. Yeah, it's

1196
01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.159
<v Speaker 9>a it runs a gamut. You can put them on eBay,

1197
01:03:59.159 --> 01:04:01.360
<v Speaker 9>and yes, sometimes you get up to a thousand dollars

1198
01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.599
<v Speaker 9>for him. But I got this from the same guy,

1199
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 9>you know. I mean, so you know, not only does

1200
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.559
<v Speaker 9>he deal with sports stuff, he deals with historical stuff.

1201
01:04:08.679 --> 01:04:11.840
<v Speaker 9>And you know he ended up. You know, it's kind

1202
01:04:11.840 --> 01:04:14.119
<v Speaker 9>of like the show Pickers. You got all these guys

1203
01:04:14.119 --> 01:04:16.840
<v Speaker 9>around the Cincinnati area that do the same thing as them. Well,

1204
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.079
<v Speaker 9>then they bring it to him, and you know, and

1205
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 9>the reason they bring it to him is because they

1206
01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:23.840
<v Speaker 9>they all know he's respectable and he's they're going to

1207
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 9>give him the best price for it.

1208
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:27.320
<v Speaker 2>But there are a lot of unscrupulous people in the

1209
01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:31.159
<v Speaker 2>business that you're talking about, and and your advice to

1210
01:04:31.239 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 2>somebody who has they you know, they're cleaning out a basement.

1211
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:40.760
<v Speaker 2>It's an estate that you know someone has passed. It's

1212
01:04:40.920 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>it's a sight that you just happen upon and you

1213
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 2>find some valuable items. Your advice is to not just

1214
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.880
<v Speaker 2>look in the phone book and contact the first person

1215
01:04:51.960 --> 01:04:55.239
<v Speaker 2>you see and just assume they're legitimate, legitimate, and that

1216
01:04:55.280 --> 01:04:56.079
<v Speaker 2>they're honest.

1217
01:04:56.239 --> 01:04:58.960
<v Speaker 9>Right, Yeah, that's my opinion. I mean, like I said,

1218
01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 9>you've got a bunch of different all over the place.

1219
01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:02.719
<v Speaker 9>You know, a lot of these places they've been around

1220
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:04.679
<v Speaker 9>for a long time. They got money to advertise and

1221
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 9>do things, a lot of them to come on your show,

1222
01:05:06.519 --> 01:05:09.599
<v Speaker 9>you know, advertising their their shops and everything. And I said,

1223
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:11.719
<v Speaker 9>you know, to me, I said, go to one of

1224
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:13.440
<v Speaker 9>the shops if you want, and just you do it.

1225
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:16.400
<v Speaker 9>As an opinion, I said, get online, look on eBay

1226
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:17.880
<v Speaker 9>and do you know and see what.

1227
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:20.360
<v Speaker 2>But you say, the more sources the better.

1228
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:22.199
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the more sources the better, I mean, And then

1229
01:05:22.280 --> 01:05:24.159
<v Speaker 9>then you can make a comfortable decision on what you

1230
01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:26.159
<v Speaker 9>want to do and what you want to sell. Like

1231
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 9>I said, in my business, you know, the guy that

1232
01:05:27.920 --> 01:05:29.880
<v Speaker 9>I was dealing with at Chris Guy, he decided to

1233
01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.039
<v Speaker 9>open a store, you know, and he's it's out off

1234
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.320
<v Speaker 9>of fifty two. It's a little farther out. Most people

1235
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:36.679
<v Speaker 9>are here within the two seventy five loop, you know,

1236
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:38.800
<v Speaker 9>but it's not that far out. It only takes twenty

1237
01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.599
<v Speaker 9>minutes to get to once you get off at Kellogg Avenue. Sure,

1238
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 9>so you just go out fifty two and it's and

1239
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:46.559
<v Speaker 9>it's really easy to find because it's it's right across

1240
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 9>from the General Grant Museum, so it's right on the

1241
01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 9>other side of New Richmond. And he so he named

1242
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:55.599
<v Speaker 9>it the General Grant's Trading Post, and I said, you know,

1243
01:05:55.639 --> 01:05:57.079
<v Speaker 9>I told him. I said it's a great name and

1244
01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.960
<v Speaker 9>everything else. And I said, you know, it takes a while,

1245
01:06:00.039 --> 01:06:01.840
<v Speaker 9>but you have to have people come in. And so

1246
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:04.400
<v Speaker 9>you're sitting here and I said, take it to the guy.

1247
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:06.639
<v Speaker 9>I said, he'll be the most in my opinion, he'll

1248
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 9>be the most honest with you. And I guarantee that,

1249
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.000
<v Speaker 9>you know, he'll give you the best price on something.

1250
01:06:11.239 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 2>You know, what's the most valuable item you've ever sold.

1251
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the irs is listening.

1252
01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:24.000
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to think, I said, an individual item. I

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<v Speaker 8>sold a ton of.

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<v Speaker 9>Baseball cards a few years ago for a little over

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred and twenty five thousand, but it was a

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<v Speaker 9>ton of them. You know, you're talking T two of

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<v Speaker 9>six cobs, you know, the thirty three gouty roofs, things

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<v Speaker 9>like that. So I just sold the whole collection as

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<v Speaker 9>a whole for that. And in the end, I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>like I said, I rs wise. I said, I probably

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<v Speaker 9>lost money. But it depends on what you're doing. I mean,

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01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 9>you know, if you need money for something, then clear

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<v Speaker 9>out the collectibles and just go do it. I said,

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<v Speaker 9>don't you know, you can't really focus on the price

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<v Speaker 9>or what it is. I mean, granted, you don't want

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01:06:56.679 --> 01:06:58.119
<v Speaker 9>to be throwing money away. You don't want to be

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<v Speaker 9>buying everything and selling it for a loss time, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>but you know, and then it made a little bit

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<v Speaker 9>more than that. I said, I take all my stuff

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<v Speaker 9>because most of the people around here, you know, like

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I didn't get along with them. I only

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<v Speaker 9>dealt with this one guy over the years, and I

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<v Speaker 9>wasn't in this as a business to make money or

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<v Speaker 9>do anything. I said, I'm a collector basically, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>But now I'm getting to the point in life where

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<v Speaker 9>I need to start sending some of this stuff out

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<v Speaker 9>or you know, So I just I loaded. I went

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<v Speaker 9>ahead and loaded up a van and drove out west,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, and I dealt with the guys out there,

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<v Speaker 9>because in this Cincinnati area, you know, in the three states,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, I mean, it's the cheapest

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01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.039
<v Speaker 9>people in the world are around here. That's the only

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<v Speaker 9>way to put it. It's well, it's it's a known

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<v Speaker 9>fact in the business. I said, if you really want

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01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:42.280
<v Speaker 9>to make any money or do anything, you got to

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<v Speaker 9>go to either one of the coasts or down south.

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<v Speaker 9>And and I don't know what, I don't know why

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01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.719
<v Speaker 9>it's like that. You know, maybe it's just because it's

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<v Speaker 9>it's the Midwest is more of a blue collar pier. Yeah,

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01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 9>they're frugal. I said that they work hard for their living,

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01:07:56.039 --> 01:07:58.079
<v Speaker 9>you know, they they party hard, they drink a ton

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01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.000
<v Speaker 9>and everything else. And I said, everything just basically about

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01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.000
<v Speaker 9>getting one over and making a buck, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>So it to me, that's just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 9>You go out coast to the west coast, the East coast,

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<v Speaker 9>or down south, and this is a different ballgame. I mean,

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<v Speaker 9>people don't seem to play the games like they do

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01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:16.520
<v Speaker 9>around here, you know. So you'll get a better you'll

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01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:19.520
<v Speaker 9>get a better price on stuffing at a stained glass window.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, did you collect here. I'll struggle to get

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<v Speaker 9>a thousand dollars for it here in Cincinnati, you know,

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01:08:25.119 --> 01:08:27.800
<v Speaker 9>you take it the Massachusetts or up to New York

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01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.079
<v Speaker 9>over on the coast. And I said, then all of

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01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 9>a sudden you sell it for five thousand, and they

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01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:34.159
<v Speaker 9>think they got one over on you.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, interesting discussion. But if people want to start this,

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01:08:37.439 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 2>just go to auctions check out. If they want to

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<v Speaker 2>start collecting.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, you go to go to auctions. Go in

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01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:46.680
<v Speaker 9>somebody's shops, you know. I said, you know you want

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01:08:46.680 --> 01:08:49.079
<v Speaker 9>a history lesson, go to my buddy shop out there

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01:08:49.079 --> 01:08:51.640
<v Speaker 9>on fifty two. I said, and you know he won't

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01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:53.399
<v Speaker 9>just buy something just to get it from you. I

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01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:56.039
<v Speaker 9>mean you'll have a conversation, will educate you on it,

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01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:58.520
<v Speaker 9>tell you all about it, the history of something.

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<v Speaker 2>For me, that's the big prize is learning the history

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01:09:02.479 --> 01:09:05.439
<v Speaker 2>of the item. Listen, our time's up. Unfortunately it just

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01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.800
<v Speaker 2>flew by like I knew it would. Next time we'll

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01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.640
<v Speaker 2>maybe have some time to take some calls from people, okay,

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01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:16.039
<v Speaker 2>and we can discuss more collectibles. It's the Scott Sloan Show.

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<v Speaker 2>More ahead on seven hundred Wlwican. Just about an hour

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01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:27.239
<v Speaker 2>and forty minutes since the opening bell. The Dow Jones

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01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:30.359
<v Speaker 2>now still down down four hundred and twenty five points

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<v Speaker 2>so far today. The slide continues. Just in case you

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01:09:34.279 --> 01:09:38.159
<v Speaker 2>were concerned, and many people are, and then other people

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01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:41.560
<v Speaker 2>like me go, well, I've seen this talk market go

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01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:45.159
<v Speaker 2>up and down dramatically. It's only down not even one

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01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:47.760
<v Speaker 2>percentage points the Dow at this point, but you never know,

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01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:51.640
<v Speaker 2>continue to monitor that. And my friend Matt Monning is

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01:09:51.680 --> 01:09:56.479
<v Speaker 2>still in the studio, the Collector's collector, and Matt one

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01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.199
<v Speaker 2>or two just mentioned one or two things. A guest

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<v Speaker 2>standing by, Mike, lets will be with you in just

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<v Speaker 2>a moment. Uh, you showed me at the bar this

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01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:12.039
<v Speaker 2>incredible Bearcat jersey, and explain what this is that you have.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the earliest known game worn collegiate sports jersey. I said,

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<v Speaker 9>it's from right around nineteen thirteen, nineteen fourteen, and I said,

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01:10:22.279 --> 01:10:24.319
<v Speaker 9>it's just it's just a really neat jersey to see.

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01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.199
<v Speaker 9>I mean you can find the pictures. It's id to

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01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.520
<v Speaker 9>the guy and it's the earliest known one. Yeah, so Heritage,

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01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 9>you know sold a real early one of the Jayhawks.

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01:10:32.680 --> 01:10:35.520
<v Speaker 9>It was never worn, you know, for like thirty eight

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01:10:35.560 --> 01:10:36.880
<v Speaker 9>thousand dollars or something.

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01:10:37.079 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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01:10:37.319 --> 01:10:38.880
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, if the guy wants to sell it now he

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01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.159
<v Speaker 9>wants like almost fifty grand for it, Well this is

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01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:42.560
<v Speaker 9>this is earlier than that.

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01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:44.760
<v Speaker 8>But it's game used, you know worn.

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01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.680
<v Speaker 2>So so what what do you think that would go

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01:10:48.039 --> 01:10:49.880
<v Speaker 2>for prospectively in a market.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you'd think it to go for about thirty eight thousand,

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01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.359
<v Speaker 9>you know, somewhere around there. Yeah, between thirty or forty

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01:10:55.399 --> 01:10:57.479
<v Speaker 9>thousand if he gave it to an auction. But like

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<v Speaker 9>I said, it's always it's always a you know, roll

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01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:01.800
<v Speaker 9>of the dice when you're giving him something.

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<v Speaker 2>You got, you got, you got your die hard beer

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01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:06.079
<v Speaker 2>cat fans a roight yeah, and some of them will

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01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.119
<v Speaker 2>even be listening to the game. By the way, I'd.

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<v Speaker 9>Rather give it to the university somehow, you know, and

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<v Speaker 9>we're going to auction with it, I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>I said, I'll give it to them a lot cheaper

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<v Speaker 9>than they have to do it in an auction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. You see Oklahoma State in the Big twelve tournament

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01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:22.079
<v Speaker 2>right here on the Big one. Uh tip time around

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<v Speaker 2>twelve thirty, Matt, thanks again, you want to do give

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<v Speaker 2>a shout out to a friend of yours.

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<v Speaker 9>It was just yeah, my brother, you know, my brother

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01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:31.359
<v Speaker 9>and his friend. His name's Tommy Nagel. You know, he's

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01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 9>he's a guy that really got me started in his

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01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:35.199
<v Speaker 9>business and he still does it, you know, on the side,

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01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:37.439
<v Speaker 9>you know, wheeling and dealing different things. You know, he's

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01:11:37.439 --> 01:11:40.279
<v Speaker 9>just a diehard Pete Rose fan. I mean it really,

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01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:41.439
<v Speaker 9>I mean the other guy was a.

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01:11:41.359 --> 01:11:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Big bunch of a bunch of those in this time.

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01:11:43.880 --> 01:11:46.279
<v Speaker 9>This guy, he's got pictures of him when he was

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01:11:46.319 --> 01:11:48.560
<v Speaker 9>a teenager with Pete Rose, and he it goes all

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01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:51.119
<v Speaker 9>the way up to just within months of him dying,

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01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:52.399
<v Speaker 9>and you're getting pictures with him.

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01:11:52.439 --> 01:11:53.880
<v Speaker 8>I mean, it's amazing what he's got.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, listen, thanks a lot for visiting again. It was

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01:11:56.760 --> 01:11:58.920
<v Speaker 2>good to see and we'll we'll see you around the

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01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:05.880
<v Speaker 2>watering hole. Up next, the man behind investusa dot com.

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01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.479
<v Speaker 2>He is a law enforcement veteran and he has spent

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01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:17.000
<v Speaker 2>his career since that time developing equipment materials for law

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01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 2>enforcement officers to help keep them safe and bring them

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01:12:20.399 --> 01:12:23.680
<v Speaker 2>home after their tour. Michael Letz, it's great to talk

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01:12:23.720 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 2>to you again. How are you, my friend?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm doing great. How are you do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, excellent, excellent. Off the top of today's discussion, I

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01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:39.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to mention the couple of incidents where again law

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01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:43.840
<v Speaker 2>enforcement officers have been targeted by the bad guys, and

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01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.960
<v Speaker 2>in many cases they're being drawn out. We just found

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01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.479
<v Speaker 2>out here in Cincinnati, according to a nine to one

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01:12:51.640 --> 01:12:54.479
<v Speaker 2>one call that there was a there was a person

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01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:59.680
<v Speaker 2>who was threatening law enforcement and other people with a

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01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:06.880
<v Speaker 2>nine in Columbia Township and two officers responded to this,

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01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:09.760
<v Speaker 2>but the guy who called it in was the guy

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01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.800
<v Speaker 2>with the knife. He was luring the cops out. I

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01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was a cop assisted suicide that

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01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:19.560
<v Speaker 2>the guy had in mind or he was trying to

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01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:23.840
<v Speaker 2>ambush these officers, but we're seeing that occur more and more,

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01:13:23.960 --> 01:13:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and as the border crackdown continues, the cartel members have

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01:13:29.159 --> 01:13:33.960
<v Speaker 2>been given their marching orders to attack not only ice officers,

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01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:37.319
<v Speaker 2>but law enforcement officers all over the country. And this

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01:13:37.359 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 2>is where a group like INVESTUSA comes in, as far

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01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:45.520
<v Speaker 2>as offering protective vests that go far beyond what we

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01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 2>know as kevlar or bulletproof vests. And I guess you

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01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.760
<v Speaker 2>could speak to any of that, but it's more important

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01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:54.720
<v Speaker 2>than ever to make sure our cops on the street

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01:13:55.119 --> 01:14:00.520
<v Speaker 2>have the equipment that they need to help keep them safe.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh, you're exactly right, Gary, it's of course Tom, you know,

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01:14:04.319 --> 01:14:06.399
<v Speaker 10>oh my not good. For instance, Tom and I were

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01:14:06.399 --> 01:14:09.439
<v Speaker 10>discussing that it's a shame that those that we were

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01:14:09.479 --> 01:14:13.520
<v Speaker 10>attempting to apprehend to protect America, to keep her safe,

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01:14:13.600 --> 01:14:18.359
<v Speaker 10>talking about the cartels, the child sex traffickers for that matter,

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01:14:18.439 --> 01:14:22.760
<v Speaker 10>the terrorists, and just the murderers there, I mean, hardened

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01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:26.119
<v Speaker 10>criminals have been released into this country that we're brought

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01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:29.359
<v Speaker 10>over here, welcomed by the Biden administration to put out

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<v Speaker 10>on our streets. You know, we're in the process of

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01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:33.920
<v Speaker 10>picking those up now that as their first and foremost objective.

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01:14:34.359 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 10>But I could promise you they're not sitting by the

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01:14:36.359 --> 01:14:38.199
<v Speaker 10>curb with a little lunch, paill wait for somebody to

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01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:42.279
<v Speaker 10>take them home. They're better armed, they're better protected, and

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01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:44.760
<v Speaker 10>it should never be that way in this country. And

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<v Speaker 10>that's why this is more critical than ever. What you've

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01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:50.359
<v Speaker 10>mentioned before. What the listeners he do understand is we

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01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:55.479
<v Speaker 10>started investing in nineteen eighty three, excuse me, and we've

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<v Speaker 10>been doing this for over thirty some odd years. But

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01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:02.399
<v Speaker 10>back in those days, you have what we call concealable vests.

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01:15:02.399 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 10>They were made of kevlar. You wear them under your shirts.

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01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:06.560
<v Speaker 10>You see them, the cops on them, dec their uniform

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01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:11.199
<v Speaker 10>all the time. Concealable vests were only made to stop sidearms.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all you need it.

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01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:16.000
<v Speaker 10>Back then, nobody was proud to be a criminal, so

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01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 10>they took a gun they could put underneath their shirts

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01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.840
<v Speaker 10>and nobody would see it, and they committed their atrocities.

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01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:24.920
<v Speaker 10>Times have changed. We're dealing with drug cartails now and others.

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01:15:24.920 --> 01:15:27.239
<v Speaker 10>They're very proud of their organization and what they do,

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01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 10>so they bring in AK forty seven's long range rifles

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01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:34.680
<v Speaker 10>literally will cut right through concealable vests if you weren't

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01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.279
<v Speaker 10>wearing one. The only way to stop that round is

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01:15:37.319 --> 01:15:41.119
<v Speaker 10>with what we created new technology called active shooter vests.

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01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:44.319
<v Speaker 10>They have titanium plates in them, will stop anything. But

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01:15:44.359 --> 01:15:47.600
<v Speaker 10>here's the tragedy. Less than ten percent of cops across

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01:15:47.600 --> 01:15:52.359
<v Speaker 10>the country have them. Ninety percent are unprotected, and that's

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<v Speaker 10>a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Shame.

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<v Speaker 10>And we're going into this particular type of a scenario

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01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:58.800
<v Speaker 10>determined to clean up the streets of America, and we're

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01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 10>under projecket and outgunned.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a fourteen year old in New Jersey charged after

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01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 2>an officer was killed another critically hurt in a shootout there,

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01:16:10.319 --> 01:16:14.119
<v Speaker 2>fourteen years old. This isn't a drug cartel, more than likely,

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01:16:14.800 --> 01:16:18.800
<v Speaker 2>but it is a pattern of crime and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons that President Trump and other elected officials are

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<v Speaker 2>turning the corner and trying to get tough on crime

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<v Speaker 2>and addressing it when we've had a revolving door system

1457
01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of justice thanks to prosecutors who were purposely soft on crime,

1458
01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.760
<v Speaker 2>the George Soros elected district attorneys and the like in

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01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:44.159
<v Speaker 2>different places, like in New York City and cities all

1460
01:16:44.199 --> 01:16:49.199
<v Speaker 2>over the country, major metro metropolitan areas, and then you

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01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:56.880
<v Speaker 2>have these judges that are allowing this crime to really

1462
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.880
<v Speaker 2>prosper and to grow and to become out of control

1463
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:05.880
<v Speaker 2>in major cities. I think, I think Americans finally are

1464
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:10.119
<v Speaker 2>taking a long, hard look at law and order again,

1465
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's way past time for that.

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<v Speaker 10>Your thoughts, No, you're exactly right. Here's what we the

1467
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:20.119
<v Speaker 10>Trump administration right now is spacing. They're not just fighting

1468
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:24.199
<v Speaker 10>the criminals, they're fighting our own people. Are judges are

1469
01:17:24.479 --> 01:17:27.439
<v Speaker 10>you know, the corruption that we have. It is amazing

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01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 10>that we can have federal judges that think that they

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01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:34.279
<v Speaker 10>can dictate executive policy. And they're doing that not just

1472
01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:36.680
<v Speaker 10>against the Trump administration, as you mentioned, they're doing to

1473
01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:39.840
<v Speaker 10>our judicial system. They have determined that the criminals are

1474
01:17:39.880 --> 01:17:43.399
<v Speaker 10>more important than the American citizens. That's got to go.

1475
01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:45.880
<v Speaker 10>I mean, that doesn't even make common sense. One thing

1476
01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:49.399
<v Speaker 10>I'm grateful for for the Trumpet administration. Cam Body So

1477
01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:52.520
<v Speaker 10>doing a great job as aternity General is now determined

1478
01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:56.800
<v Speaker 10>to refer these criminal matters or indictments against these judges

1479
01:17:57.159 --> 01:17:59.399
<v Speaker 10>and ask them to be impeached. We've got to get

1480
01:17:59.479 --> 01:18:02.880
<v Speaker 10>rid of this mindset that if we don't get our way,

1481
01:18:03.600 --> 01:18:07.279
<v Speaker 10>we're going to legislate from the bench. That's never the

1482
01:18:07.319 --> 01:18:10.319
<v Speaker 10>way the Constitution was formulated. If you don't like it,

1483
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:12.119
<v Speaker 10>then get out something else.

1484
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:17.840
<v Speaker 2>The judicial is an interpretive not a legislative branch, and

1485
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.680
<v Speaker 2>they're there to determine whether the laws that are past

1486
01:18:22.800 --> 01:18:29.640
<v Speaker 2>are constitutional. And uh, we have a lot of those

1487
01:18:29.880 --> 01:18:34.640
<v Speaker 2>judges who think that they're legislators or they're the executive

1488
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:39.079
<v Speaker 2>and that they are the sole voice of reason on

1489
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:43.239
<v Speaker 2>any given legal topic, and they simply are not. And

1490
01:18:43.239 --> 01:18:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and that's why we have an appellate system, and that's

1491
01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:49.079
<v Speaker 2>why we have a Supreme Court. But even then sometimes

1492
01:18:49.479 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 2>there is a legislation from the bench that is totally

1493
01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:57.960
<v Speaker 2>unconstitutional and it's something that must be watched constantly in

1494
01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:02.039
<v Speaker 2>my opinion. What else would you like to talk about?

1495
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:04.199
<v Speaker 2>If anything well told?

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01:19:05.560 --> 01:19:08.960
<v Speaker 10>There's plenty of talk of trust me here, But you know,

1497
01:19:09.199 --> 01:19:12.119
<v Speaker 10>let's talk about where we're at as a country from

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01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:13.600
<v Speaker 10>a law and order standpoint.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, of course, four years.

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<v Speaker 10>Ago, you know, we had open borders, and this is

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01:19:18.359 --> 01:19:20.199
<v Speaker 10>what I want the American people to understand we're up

1502
01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:25.560
<v Speaker 10>against now. When we had open borders, the cartels still

1503
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:29.000
<v Speaker 10>do control the Rio grand And what do we mean

1504
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.920
<v Speaker 10>by that. That means on the Mexican side, you don't

1505
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:36.399
<v Speaker 10>set up foot in that river without the cartels blessing.

1506
01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.520
<v Speaker 10>How do you get their blessing? Very simple, It's called

1507
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:42.359
<v Speaker 10>twenty thousand dollars apiece. They don't care if you have

1508
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:44.439
<v Speaker 10>it or not. If you don't have it, you can

1509
01:19:44.520 --> 01:19:46.159
<v Speaker 10>work it off by being one of the drug runners,

1510
01:19:46.199 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 10>of being the prostitution organizations. They got plenty of ways

1511
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:52.039
<v Speaker 10>you can work it off. But now you can said it.

1512
01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.720
<v Speaker 10>When we had ade administration. The Trump administration came in,

1513
01:19:55.279 --> 01:19:57.600
<v Speaker 10>we shut all that down. We roughly had thirty eight

1514
01:19:57.640 --> 01:20:00.560
<v Speaker 10>people that were able to get aways last week on

1515
01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:03.439
<v Speaker 10>a given day, from fifteen thousand down to thirty eight.

1516
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:04.720
<v Speaker 4>You've the math.

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01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.840
<v Speaker 10>Do you realize how much the cartels are losing. They're

1518
01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:11.680
<v Speaker 10>not gonna sit by and allow that kind of revenue

1519
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:14.199
<v Speaker 10>to be taken from them. So they have issue with

1520
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 10>the intercepted intel reports. They've issued all their lieutenants to

1521
01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:22.680
<v Speaker 10>use armed drones. Where did they get the armed drones from? Well,

1522
01:20:22.760 --> 01:20:25.880
<v Speaker 10>you remember we were sitting to military, high grade military

1523
01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.760
<v Speaker 10>equip with the Ukraine. Yeah, find out that sixty five

1524
01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:31.359
<v Speaker 10>percent of it never got there. Ukraine put it on

1525
01:20:31.399 --> 01:20:33.880
<v Speaker 10>the black market. Guess who has the most money to

1526
01:20:33.880 --> 01:20:37.720
<v Speaker 10>buy this kind of stuff. Cartel's cartels exactly in the

1527
01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.359
<v Speaker 10>terrace workanduation. So they've got it. It's sitting on our

1528
01:20:40.399 --> 01:20:43.239
<v Speaker 10>border right now. So they're going to use armed drones

1529
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.319
<v Speaker 10>to fly across the river to attack border patrol and

1530
01:20:46.399 --> 01:20:49.680
<v Speaker 10>our military units to try to invade and last holes

1531
01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:52.560
<v Speaker 10>so that they can get migrants across eveegally immigrants across.

1532
01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:53.359
<v Speaker 10>That's going to go.

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01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.039
<v Speaker 3>We're well for them, but.

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01:20:54.960 --> 01:20:56.800
<v Speaker 10>The other thing they're attempting to do is they send

1535
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:00.079
<v Speaker 10>out word that anybody visiting Mexico, they know where the

1536
01:21:00.079 --> 01:21:02.720
<v Speaker 10>tourist spots are at. They're going to start lining the

1537
01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:05.439
<v Speaker 10>roads to get there with IEDs, try to kill as

1538
01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:08.479
<v Speaker 10>many Americans as possible. That already started last week. We

1539
01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:12.800
<v Speaker 10>lost one American tourist with an ID. We lost nine

1540
01:21:12.920 --> 01:21:16.479
<v Speaker 10>college students who were butchered by the cartail and we're

1541
01:21:16.479 --> 01:21:18.960
<v Speaker 10>not going to toleratetel. So we've drawn the line in

1542
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:21.720
<v Speaker 10>this sand. We've made it very clear that the cartails

1543
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:24.279
<v Speaker 10>are now terrorist organizations. What does that mean to the

1544
01:21:24.279 --> 01:21:27.880
<v Speaker 10>American public? We declare you the terrorist organization. Suddenly you're

1545
01:21:27.880 --> 01:21:32.000
<v Speaker 10>in a different category. We can use military interventions. That

1546
01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.399
<v Speaker 10>means special forces, and that means we can track you

1547
01:21:34.560 --> 01:21:36.680
<v Speaker 10>anywhere in the world. You don't have to be in

1548
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:39.319
<v Speaker 10>the US anymore. We can go after wherever you're at.

1549
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 10>So expectancy is a very heated, heating up events coming

1550
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 10>up here shortly, because payback is hell and we're going

1551
01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:50.000
<v Speaker 10>to make sure that we do not simply disrupt the

1552
01:21:50.079 --> 01:21:53.319
<v Speaker 10>cartails is our goal and responsibility now to the women.

1553
01:21:53.119 --> 01:21:57.680
<v Speaker 2>In Well, Now we won't be facing necessarily the Mexican government.

1554
01:21:57.720 --> 01:22:02.359
<v Speaker 2>But you're talking about another American mecha war, which they

1555
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't fared well in over the course of history. And

1556
01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:09.760
<v Speaker 2>with our military now on the border given the green

1557
01:22:09.800 --> 01:22:14.039
<v Speaker 2>light permission to fire back if they're fired upon, it

1558
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:20.000
<v Speaker 2>looks like there's going to be something very much resembling

1559
01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.560
<v Speaker 2>a war on our southern border with the cartels, not

1560
01:22:22.600 --> 01:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>with the Mexican government. But if the cartels think that

1561
01:22:26.439 --> 01:22:29.760
<v Speaker 2>they've got the firepower to do it, you're right. They're

1562
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.760
<v Speaker 2>just protecting their financial interest in their way of life,

1563
01:22:33.319 --> 01:22:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and they will stop at nothing. Well, they're going to

1564
01:22:36.600 --> 01:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>meet some pretty strong resistance from the US military if

1565
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:41.359
<v Speaker 2>push comes to.

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01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:45.920
<v Speaker 10>Show, and interested in The Mexican Congress just last week

1567
01:22:46.079 --> 01:22:50.000
<v Speaker 10>past the Seat of the Night passed the resolution welcoming

1568
01:22:50.039 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 10>any special forces into the country that we're calling for

1569
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:56.199
<v Speaker 10>the purpose of eradicating the cartails, so they know we're

1570
01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:58.159
<v Speaker 10>coming and we're not just going to wait you get

1571
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:01.399
<v Speaker 10>to ours. That's not how war were ups. We eliminate

1572
01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:04.520
<v Speaker 10>the threat wherever it's at. They've drawn the line, unlike

1573
01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:07.520
<v Speaker 10>the previous administration, where you could kept drawing lines and

1574
01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.720
<v Speaker 10>step over when nothing happens. Yeah, and as administration would

1575
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:12.880
<v Speaker 10>you step over the line buckle up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:23:13.279 --> 01:23:17.039
<v Speaker 2>They called it the Biden don't policy. It didn't work

1578
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:20.039
<v Speaker 2>with Iran, it didn't work with the cartels, it hasn't

1579
01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:25.840
<v Speaker 2>worked anywhere. But some real, real firepower and our military.

1580
01:23:26.319 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 2>The reason we have a military is number one reason

1581
01:23:30.279 --> 01:23:34.640
<v Speaker 2>to defend our borders, to defend the United States of America,

1582
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>not to be flown halfway around the world and defend

1583
01:23:37.720 --> 01:23:40.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody else's border. I mean, we can help people when

1584
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>when we're able to, but the primary job of the

1585
01:23:44.520 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>US military is to do exactly what is being done

1586
01:23:48.119 --> 01:23:52.199
<v Speaker 2>now on our on our borders. And it's way past time. Michael.

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01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Lets thank you very much for your time. Invest USA.

1588
01:23:57.479 --> 01:23:59.880
<v Speaker 2>Tell me again real quickly about your organization, how people

1589
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>and get in touch and participate.

1590
01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:08.359
<v Speaker 10>If include our website I NVSTUSA dot orgto charity dot org,

1591
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 10>they can make sure our officers have the necessary protection

1592
01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:16.119
<v Speaker 10>to punch these cartails head on and win. And the

1593
01:24:16.159 --> 01:24:18.079
<v Speaker 10>other thing they can keep informed of everything else is

1594
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:21.560
<v Speaker 10>going We keep the running stories on everything that's happening

1595
01:24:21.560 --> 01:24:24.600
<v Speaker 10>across the country how it affects law enforce. So please

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01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:27.600
<v Speaker 10>do one thing today. Tell a first responder thank you

1597
01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 10>for your service and if you can help make sure

1598
01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:31.800
<v Speaker 10>they have the equipment, a couple of safety to their

1599
01:24:31.880 --> 01:24:33.159
<v Speaker 10>kids and their families as well.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother, I have a wonderful rest of the day.

1601
01:24:35.640 --> 01:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. We have Jim orin Ac back

1602
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:42.880
<v Speaker 2>for a second bite. We'll see what's chomping at his

1603
01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:46.640
<v Speaker 2>bit in just a moment after news on seven hundred WLW,

1604
01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>while the House is pondering and waiting on taking the

1605
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:57.279
<v Speaker 2>vote on the cr to keep the government funded, figured

1606
01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.680
<v Speaker 2>this would be a great time to talk to my

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01:24:59.720 --> 01:25:04.399
<v Speaker 2>friend Jim Ranesi again, former congressman from Ohio, senatorial and

1608
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:09.720
<v Speaker 2>gubernatorial candidate, businessman, entrepreneur and once again our guest on

1609
01:25:09.760 --> 01:25:13.159
<v Speaker 2>the Scott's Loan Show, Gary Jeffin for Sloani. Well, Jim,

1610
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:17.600
<v Speaker 2>they are talking to talk in Washington. The question is

1611
01:25:17.600 --> 01:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>will they walk the walk and avert the government shut

1612
01:25:21.039 --> 01:25:24.960
<v Speaker 2>down with the Democrats. This is unusual, Jim, because the

1613
01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Democrats always are the parties said, I can't believe the

1614
01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Republicans would shut the government down, and now the Democrats

1615
01:25:31.880 --> 01:25:34.560
<v Speaker 2>are vowing to do it. Isn't it crazy? How the

1616
01:25:34.600 --> 01:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>shoes on the other foot.

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01:25:37.439 --> 01:25:40.680
<v Speaker 11>Well, it is interesting, but again the Democrats are going

1618
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:43.680
<v Speaker 11>to say the Republican have a majority in the House

1619
01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:45.520
<v Speaker 11>and the majority in the Senate, and they need to

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01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:49.159
<v Speaker 11>do their job. That'll be their talking point. You know,

1621
01:25:49.239 --> 01:25:52.560
<v Speaker 11>politics is all about talking points, who has the better ones,

1622
01:25:52.720 --> 01:25:56.079
<v Speaker 11>And in the end, it's just this American people that

1623
01:25:56.119 --> 01:26:00.279
<v Speaker 11>will lose, which is sad because the government shutdown does

1624
01:26:00.359 --> 01:26:03.880
<v Speaker 11>not help our economy. It doesn't really save any money.

1625
01:26:04.199 --> 01:26:07.000
<v Speaker 11>There are a lot of people who believe when you

1626
01:26:07.000 --> 01:26:09.640
<v Speaker 11>shut it down, it's just the government quit spending money.

1627
01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:13.399
<v Speaker 11>Now the government still has to pay money, it just

1628
01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:17.880
<v Speaker 11>doesn't spend it till it reopens again. So hopefully they'll

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01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:21.039
<v Speaker 11>come to some conclusion. But I will tell you, and

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01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:24.920
<v Speaker 11>I mentioned this before. Remember they're voting on a bill

1631
01:26:25.560 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 11>to spend money that does not include all the waste

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01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:34.000
<v Speaker 11>that the Doze the Doze cuts found And that's the

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01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:38.000
<v Speaker 11>interesting aspect, which is one of the reasons why Massey

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01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 11>Connorsson Massey's not voting for it.

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01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, he said that the only way he'd vote

1636
01:26:43.119 --> 01:26:47.000
<v Speaker 2>for it is if he had a lobotomy. This morning,

1637
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>President Trump is promising to primary or get Republicans to

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01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:55.039
<v Speaker 2>primary Thomas Massey. It's a very solid safe district. I

1639
01:26:55.119 --> 01:26:57.239
<v Speaker 2>know this because I live in the fourth district in

1640
01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and will not keep me voting from for Thomas

1641
01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Massey should he run for reelection in twenty six. And

1642
01:27:06.439 --> 01:27:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that's not a guarantee either. The thing about Thomas Massey

1643
01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>is that if he has any higher aspirations, he has

1644
01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>pretty much run his course. According to what he said

1645
01:27:19.680 --> 01:27:22.279
<v Speaker 2>when he began and ran the first time, he wasn't

1646
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be a lifetime politician in the House of

1647
01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Representatives seat. He is as probably as down to earth

1648
01:27:29.800 --> 01:27:36.960
<v Speaker 2>as anybody gets in that position, in that organization, in

1649
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:40.880
<v Speaker 2>that branch of Congress, just because I've met him and

1650
01:27:40.920 --> 01:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I know him. He's a farmer. He loves being a farmer.

1651
01:27:45.199 --> 01:27:49.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, he lost his wife last year and that

1652
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:51.520
<v Speaker 2>was kind of a bump in the road and did

1653
01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.199
<v Speaker 2>not know if he would continue then. But you know,

1654
01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:58.640
<v Speaker 2>got a guminatorial race in Kentucky. Also, a Senate seat

1655
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.640
<v Speaker 2>will be open in twenty six, and I think that

1656
01:28:02.399 --> 01:28:04.840
<v Speaker 2>quite possibly, I don't know, but I think that quite

1657
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.760
<v Speaker 2>possibly Thomas Massey will consider a run for either one

1658
01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:10.640
<v Speaker 2>of those offices. Any thoughts on that, Since you've run

1659
01:28:10.680 --> 01:28:15.800
<v Speaker 2>for Senate and governor, what are the challenges that Thomas

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01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Massey would have in a state where he continually is

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<v Speaker 2>re elected to the House in his district.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, first off, Thomas Massey is a good man. He

1663
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:27.439
<v Speaker 11>was a friend of mine. He came into the House

1664
01:28:27.439 --> 01:28:33.119
<v Speaker 11>of Representatives when I did. He's a constitutional conservative. Yep,

1665
01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:36.560
<v Speaker 11>somebody like me who will stick to his guns, and

1666
01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:39.199
<v Speaker 11>quite frankly, I stuck to my guns on CRS many

1667
01:28:39.199 --> 01:28:43.199
<v Speaker 11>a time with President Trump. I never voted for a

1668
01:28:43.199 --> 01:28:46.840
<v Speaker 11>CR except one time. President Trump did call me and

1669
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:50.079
<v Speaker 11>asked me to vote for a fourteen day CR. I'll

1670
01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.359
<v Speaker 11>never forget. I was in the back of the house.

1671
01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:55.479
<v Speaker 11>They said, the President wants to talk to you. I said, fine,

1672
01:28:55.720 --> 01:28:57.840
<v Speaker 11>I went back. I said, mister President, I don't vote

1673
01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:00.640
<v Speaker 11>for CRS. He said, would you please do this? I said,

1674
01:29:00.640 --> 01:29:03.039
<v Speaker 11>I'll do it. I said, but don't come back to

1675
01:29:03.079 --> 01:29:06.319
<v Speaker 11>me in fourteen days, when you know. Fourteen days later

1676
01:29:06.359 --> 01:29:09.439
<v Speaker 11>he came back to me and I said, no. You know,

1677
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.079
<v Speaker 11>a CR is one of the reasons we have our

1678
01:29:12.119 --> 01:29:15.000
<v Speaker 11>problems in Congress. We don't pass by just we don't

1679
01:29:15.039 --> 01:29:18.880
<v Speaker 11>pass appropriation bills. We just continue to pass CRS. I

1680
01:29:18.920 --> 01:29:22.680
<v Speaker 11>applaud those that don't vote for crs. I didn't vote

1681
01:29:22.680 --> 01:29:26.600
<v Speaker 11>for CRS. I was called It was funny the Republicans

1682
01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:29.000
<v Speaker 11>and some of the Democrats would say to me, well,

1683
01:29:29.000 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 11>you're a vote no hope yes, And I said, well,

1684
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:35.079
<v Speaker 11>you can call me whatever you want, vote no hope yes.

1685
01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:37.880
<v Speaker 11>That we don't shut the government down. That was always

1686
01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:41.079
<v Speaker 11>the key. But look, I think at this point in time,

1687
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:45.239
<v Speaker 11>after forty some fifty some crs in the last ten years,

1688
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 11>it's probably about time. And I'd love to see President

1689
01:29:48.319 --> 01:29:52.000
<v Speaker 11>Trump veto this spending bill and tell the House and

1690
01:29:52.039 --> 01:29:56.039
<v Speaker 11>Senate don't leave until you send me a bill that

1691
01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:01.640
<v Speaker 11>has the cuts that are necessary that we found. I

1692
01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:03.520
<v Speaker 11>know he's not going to do that because he does

1693
01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:06.439
<v Speaker 11>want to keep the government open. But at some point

1694
01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:08.760
<v Speaker 11>in time, we got to take a stand on this spending.

1695
01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.800
<v Speaker 11>And even though dose is finding everything, we're not cutting it.

1696
01:30:13.479 --> 01:30:16.119
<v Speaker 11>You know, we found toilets, three hundred dollar toilets and

1697
01:30:16.159 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 11>one hundred and fifty dollars hammers. We found all this

1698
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:22.279
<v Speaker 11>stuff over the last twenty years. But until somebody takes

1699
01:30:22.279 --> 01:30:26.600
<v Speaker 11>the stand we're not going to cut this wasteful spending.

1700
01:30:26.439 --> 01:30:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, then this cr it doesn't It doesn't cut spending.

1701
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.560
<v Speaker 2>It just kind of The way it's portrayed is it

1702
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:37.239
<v Speaker 2>freezes spending at the current levels. But that's not what

1703
01:30:37.279 --> 01:30:42.680
<v Speaker 2>we need. We need cuts, real cuts. And then how

1704
01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>long has it been since they actually passed a real budget, Jim.

1705
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:50.000
<v Speaker 11>It's been twenty five plus years.

1706
01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:51.000
<v Speaker 8>That's the problem.

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01:30:51.359 --> 01:30:54.760
<v Speaker 11>You know, we tried to pass budgets when I was

1708
01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:58.560
<v Speaker 11>in Congress. I was on the budget committee. When we

1709
01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:00.720
<v Speaker 11>passed the budget and sent it over to the House

1710
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.159
<v Speaker 11>or center over the Senate, the Senate never passed it.

1711
01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:07.600
<v Speaker 11>They did our job. It's one of the frustrating things

1712
01:31:07.640 --> 01:31:11.039
<v Speaker 11>that I found in Congress. One year, we passed three

1713
01:31:11.119 --> 01:31:13.720
<v Speaker 11>hundred and sixty some bills in the House, sent him

1714
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:16.760
<v Speaker 11>over the Senate, and the Senate just didn't pass it.

1715
01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:20.399
<v Speaker 11>The House has to pass the Senate. The House and

1716
01:31:20.640 --> 01:31:24.399
<v Speaker 11>Senate have to pass a budget, and the Senate has

1717
01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 11>refused to pass budget for years. The House has not

1718
01:31:28.560 --> 01:31:31.359
<v Speaker 11>done their job either. I'm not going to give them credit.

1719
01:31:31.760 --> 01:31:34.319
<v Speaker 11>We have failed the pass budgets as well, but when

1720
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.920
<v Speaker 11>we did pass them, the Senate didn't take them up

1721
01:31:36.920 --> 01:31:37.680
<v Speaker 11>and pass them either.

1722
01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, these crs that you speak of that continue to

1723
01:31:42.760 --> 01:31:45.319
<v Speaker 2>get past, you know, kicking the can down the road again.

1724
01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:50.159
<v Speaker 2>And not cutting spending. They have led to John Bainer

1725
01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>being ousted a speaker. It led to Kevin McCarthy. Does

1726
01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>do you think this particular fight spells kind of the

1727
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.359
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the in for Mike as Speaker of the House.

1728
01:32:02.920 --> 01:32:05.399
<v Speaker 11>Well, look, it's a very difficult position to be Speaker

1729
01:32:05.399 --> 01:32:08.359
<v Speaker 11>of the House. But you're exactly right. One of the

1730
01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:12.159
<v Speaker 11>thing that has really been interesting for me to watch

1731
01:32:12.960 --> 01:32:15.479
<v Speaker 11>is that you're right. We threw Bayner out. Not we,

1732
01:32:15.800 --> 01:32:19.399
<v Speaker 11>but Congress threw Bayner out because he kept doing this.

1733
01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 11>They threw you McCarthy out, and all of a sudden,

1734
01:32:23.920 --> 01:32:26.279
<v Speaker 11>it's okay to do it. I don't get this. I

1735
01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:28.000
<v Speaker 11>mean it's either okay to do it or it's not

1736
01:32:28.079 --> 01:32:31.760
<v Speaker 11>okay to do it. It's very frustrating. I feel sorry

1737
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:35.199
<v Speaker 11>for some of the solid Republicans down there that have

1738
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.840
<v Speaker 11>to be shaking their heads saying what is going on

1739
01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:42.720
<v Speaker 11>because at this stage of the game, most people don't

1740
01:32:42.720 --> 01:32:46.119
<v Speaker 11>even know what's right anymore. We're now okay passing a

1741
01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:51.319
<v Speaker 11>cr when we threw speakers out for not passing crs'.

1742
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:54.720
<v Speaker 11>It's just different times different and trust.

1743
01:32:54.439 --> 01:32:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Writing, there's a great deal of hypocrisy on both sides.

1744
01:32:58.720 --> 01:33:01.880
<v Speaker 2>There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around when it comes

1745
01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to the two parties in Congress, and we're seeing it

1746
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:09.520
<v Speaker 2>on full display. As you just mentioned. On another tack,

1747
01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>what should be done with Ukraine? In your opinion, if

1748
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>if you were the king of the world, Jim Ornacy,

1749
01:33:18.960 --> 01:33:22.399
<v Speaker 2>what would you do with the Ukraine situation? Do they

1750
01:33:22.439 --> 01:33:25.199
<v Speaker 2>continue to get a blank check from US and can't

1751
01:33:25.239 --> 01:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>explain where the money's going in their fighting just because

1752
01:33:28.680 --> 01:33:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Putin's a bad guy and he invaded their country? Do

1753
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:34.560
<v Speaker 2>we defend Ukraine for as long as it takes and

1754
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:38.520
<v Speaker 2>is there any chance at all that they even prevail

1755
01:33:38.720 --> 01:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>in this if they continue this nonsense in the the

1756
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>and the killing continues.

1757
01:33:44.720 --> 01:33:47.840
<v Speaker 11>So look at it from a different angle. Number one,

1758
01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:50.439
<v Speaker 11>we should never put boots on the ground there, No,

1759
01:33:50.560 --> 01:33:53.319
<v Speaker 11>And number two, we should never get in a situation

1760
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:55.880
<v Speaker 11>where we have to put boots on the ground in

1761
01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:59.760
<v Speaker 11>Europe ever again to defend countries over there. But we

1762
01:33:59.800 --> 01:34:05.520
<v Speaker 11>should provide them the military aid and equipment they need.

1763
01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:11.159
<v Speaker 11>Remember when we are providing them military equipment, it's being

1764
01:34:11.199 --> 01:34:17.000
<v Speaker 11>manufactured by Amerging companies. So it actually is there's a

1765
01:34:17.079 --> 01:34:20.000
<v Speaker 11>positive side to this that a lot of people don't

1766
01:34:20.000 --> 01:34:23.159
<v Speaker 11>look at But at the same time, here's what a

1767
01:34:23.239 --> 01:34:27.119
<v Speaker 11>lot of people don't understand about Ukraine. And we input

1768
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.880
<v Speaker 11>lots of things from Ukraine that we can't get elsewhere.

1769
01:34:31.239 --> 01:34:34.159
<v Speaker 11>One of those things is pig iron. Without pig iron,

1770
01:34:34.239 --> 01:34:38.720
<v Speaker 11>we can't build and manufacture still. Now we can get

1771
01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:41.840
<v Speaker 11>at other places, but Ukraine is one of our number

1772
01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:45.840
<v Speaker 11>one places for pig iron. And if we lose that,

1773
01:34:45.960 --> 01:34:49.039
<v Speaker 11>we lose the ability to make still in our country,

1774
01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:51.800
<v Speaker 11>or we lose at least one of the products needed

1775
01:34:51.800 --> 01:34:54.680
<v Speaker 11>to make still in our country. Wheat's another thing. So

1776
01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:58.239
<v Speaker 11>I look at it from a business perspective. What is

1777
01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:01.359
<v Speaker 11>the return on investment? And I think that's the way

1778
01:35:01.439 --> 01:35:04.319
<v Speaker 11>we should look at everything in government. If we are

1779
01:35:04.399 --> 01:35:08.479
<v Speaker 11>funding them X amount of dollars, but the return is why,

1780
01:35:08.680 --> 01:35:12.359
<v Speaker 11>and it's beneficial to the United States, we should continue

1781
01:35:12.399 --> 01:35:15.840
<v Speaker 11>to do it with one additional caveat, and that is

1782
01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:19.199
<v Speaker 11>if we can keep our men and women and our

1783
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:23.680
<v Speaker 11>soldiers off the boots off the ground in Ukraine and Europe,

1784
01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:27.520
<v Speaker 11>there's even an added bonus. So I've always been very

1785
01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:31.239
<v Speaker 11>supportive of making sure that we don't ever have to

1786
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:34.840
<v Speaker 11>go to war again. Our children and grandchildren. So's the

1787
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:35.760
<v Speaker 11>way we should look at them.

1788
01:35:35.880 --> 01:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>So you continue to give them a blank check and

1789
01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:41.680
<v Speaker 2>whatever they need. You just here's another fifty billion, here's

1790
01:35:41.680 --> 01:35:44.479
<v Speaker 2>another one hundred billion. Zelenski couldn't even tell you where

1791
01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:45.960
<v Speaker 2>the money all win.

1792
01:35:46.159 --> 01:35:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Jim, Well, you.

1793
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:51.479
<v Speaker 11>Know that's what one. So there's two sides of the story.

1794
01:35:51.600 --> 01:35:52.520
<v Speaker 6>Some people say that.

1795
01:35:52.600 --> 01:35:56.600
<v Speaker 11>Other people say that the money is actually being spent on.

1796
01:35:57.079 --> 01:35:59.560
<v Speaker 11>You know, we're giving them We're not giving them money,

1797
01:36:00.159 --> 01:36:03.640
<v Speaker 11>giving them arms, We're giving them ammunition. We're giving them

1798
01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:07.880
<v Speaker 11>things that are going to that country to be used

1799
01:36:07.920 --> 01:36:12.079
<v Speaker 11>to defend themselves. That's the real key. If it is cash,

1800
01:36:12.119 --> 01:36:14.119
<v Speaker 11>which I don't believe it is, but if it is cash,

1801
01:36:14.399 --> 01:36:16.880
<v Speaker 11>we should know what it's being spent on. But I'm

1802
01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:21.720
<v Speaker 11>of the I'm of the belief that it's actually weaponry, arms,

1803
01:36:21.960 --> 01:36:26.279
<v Speaker 11>it's those type of things, and even you know, the

1804
01:36:26.680 --> 01:36:31.239
<v Speaker 11>military intelligence that they need. I mean, I'm absolutely shocked

1805
01:36:31.239 --> 01:36:34.560
<v Speaker 11>that President Trump has pulled the intelligence away from them

1806
01:36:34.560 --> 01:36:37.560
<v Speaker 11>now too, because that's just a death sentence to them.

1807
01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.279
<v Speaker 11>And you know, in the end, it's given putting the

1808
01:36:41.399 --> 01:36:44.039
<v Speaker 11>opportunity to say I'm just going to move forward, which

1809
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:47.880
<v Speaker 11>he is, and now he's bombs, bombing innocent children and

1810
01:36:47.920 --> 01:36:51.760
<v Speaker 11>families as well, which is again we should not get

1811
01:36:51.800 --> 01:36:52.960
<v Speaker 11>involved in those wars.

1812
01:36:53.399 --> 01:36:54.479
<v Speaker 1>But should we.

1813
01:36:54.520 --> 01:36:58.000
<v Speaker 8>Help that's the real question? Sure for Americans.

1814
01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:02.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, it was it was disclosed that part of the

1815
01:37:02.319 --> 01:37:06.600
<v Speaker 2>ask of Zelenski and Ukraine were billions of dollars and

1816
01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:12.199
<v Speaker 2>actual cash to fund their government pension fund because it

1817
01:37:12.239 --> 01:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>had been exhausted by the war effort. So that's that's

1818
01:37:15.399 --> 01:37:16.439
<v Speaker 2>real dollars, isn't it.

1819
01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:19.399
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, And that we should not do. But I do

1820
01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:21.920
<v Speaker 11>think at the same time we should. We should direct

1821
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:26.199
<v Speaker 11>help to them for their military needs, not the financial

1822
01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:27.039
<v Speaker 11>appension needs.

1823
01:37:27.279 --> 01:37:29.319
<v Speaker 2>All Right, One more quick thing on a on a

1824
01:37:29.359 --> 01:37:32.479
<v Speaker 2>tariff sense, on a business sense, since you're a business

1825
01:37:32.479 --> 01:37:37.039
<v Speaker 2>guy and you look at things that way. Ontario saying

1826
01:37:37.079 --> 01:37:40.359
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to put tariffs on electricity or they're

1827
01:37:40.439 --> 01:37:44.359
<v Speaker 2>going to stop giving us electricity and reciprocal tariffs on

1828
01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:47.399
<v Speaker 2>the other side from the Trump administration, where does this

1829
01:37:47.479 --> 01:37:51.119
<v Speaker 2>all go? Is it a negotiating ploy, is it a

1830
01:37:51.199 --> 01:37:55.760
<v Speaker 2>quagmire that will cause a recession and get us into trouble.

1831
01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:59.199
<v Speaker 2>It's so early to tell, uh, And that's why it's

1832
01:37:59.520 --> 01:38:03.119
<v Speaker 2>people are so excited about the fast moving Trump administration.

1833
01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:06.000
<v Speaker 2>They finally got their full cabinet together, which is in

1834
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty good record time, considering he only took the oath

1835
01:38:09.640 --> 01:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>of office on January twentieth. But what's your take on

1836
01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>the latest tariff moves and how it's affecting the markets.

1837
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:22.319
<v Speaker 11>So I've said all along the tarr should be used

1838
01:38:22.319 --> 01:38:25.640
<v Speaker 11>for negotiations, they should never be used for economics. But

1839
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:29.680
<v Speaker 11>the problem is we have now escalated this to a war.

1840
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:33.359
<v Speaker 11>We are in a tariff war, which is a real problem.

1841
01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.199
<v Speaker 11>But I want to remind your listeners of one thing

1842
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:44.239
<v Speaker 11>that's extremely important. During President Trump's first term, we renegotiated

1843
01:38:44.279 --> 01:38:46.920
<v Speaker 11>all the trade I heard somebody say, well, the reason

1844
01:38:46.960 --> 01:38:50.840
<v Speaker 11>we have all these problems is NAFTA. NAFTA doesn't exist anymore.

1845
01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:57.840
<v Speaker 11>President Trump negotiated all new trade agreements with Mexico and Canada.

1846
01:38:58.159 --> 01:39:01.920
<v Speaker 11>They were signed, we were the Congress approved them. That

1847
01:39:02.000 --> 01:39:04.439
<v Speaker 11>was all done in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, So

1848
01:39:04.600 --> 01:39:08.199
<v Speaker 11>not that many years ago we approved all these trade agreements.

1849
01:39:08.840 --> 01:39:11.199
<v Speaker 11>I still remember the day President Trump's saying, these are

1850
01:39:11.319 --> 01:39:15.399
<v Speaker 11>great trade agreements for the United States with Canada and Mexico.

1851
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:20.560
<v Speaker 11>Now roll forward four years, five years, and we're at

1852
01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:23.279
<v Speaker 11>a trade war again with Canada and Mexico. This is

1853
01:39:23.279 --> 01:39:27.119
<v Speaker 11>what I don't understand, and it doesn't help the American

1854
01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:33.359
<v Speaker 11>businessman or woman when we have uncertainty and unpredictability. I mean,

1855
01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.439
<v Speaker 11>one of the reasons why the market soared under the

1856
01:39:36.479 --> 01:39:39.600
<v Speaker 11>first of Trump administration is because he was able to

1857
01:39:39.640 --> 01:39:43.319
<v Speaker 11>maintain certainty and predictability. And when we got into these

1858
01:39:43.439 --> 01:39:48.359
<v Speaker 11>trade problems with these countries, we signed new trade agreements,

1859
01:39:48.960 --> 01:39:52.720
<v Speaker 11>so everybody was happy. The markets continued to roar, business

1860
01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:56.399
<v Speaker 11>people were happy. Now all of a sudden, President Trump

1861
01:39:56.439 --> 01:39:59.359
<v Speaker 11>is throwing out these trade agreements that he signed and

1862
01:39:59.399 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 11>he proposed back in eighteen and nineteen, and we're at

1863
01:40:03.359 --> 01:40:06.800
<v Speaker 11>basically a war, which cannot be good for the American people.

1864
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:11.239
<v Speaker 11>I hope Americans understand. They hear these tariffs and they think, oh,

1865
01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:12.319
<v Speaker 11>the government's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay those.

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<v Speaker 11>The government doesn't pay those, you and I pay those.

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<v Speaker 11>You and I end up paying those, and it will

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<v Speaker 11>increase the cost of cars and food and electricity. And

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01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:26.279
<v Speaker 11>we really don't need to get into a trade war

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01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:30.960
<v Speaker 11>at this time where our economy is still we're still

1872
01:40:31.000 --> 01:40:34.119
<v Speaker 11>coming out of a high recession period. This is just

1873
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<v Speaker 11>bad timing. You get into a trade war.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, ultimately it's the long the long plan, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the other side of the coin. The philosophy

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<v Speaker 2>is this eventually will convince people to you know, make

1877
01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:53.760
<v Speaker 2>stuff in America again, But that takes a long time.

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01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:58.680
<v Speaker 2>That's building infrastructure, and you know it'll take two or

1879
01:40:58.680 --> 01:41:03.319
<v Speaker 2>three years at the early for these jobs to come back, right.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, it'll even take more than that. I remember, we

1881
01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:08.840
<v Speaker 11>didn't get into this mess in the last three or

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01:41:08.840 --> 01:41:10.600
<v Speaker 11>four years. We got in this mess in the last

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01:41:10.600 --> 01:41:13.960
<v Speaker 11>twenty five years. So take a look at the automobile industry.

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<v Speaker 11>We are now a North American manufacturing industry of automobiles.

1885
01:41:19.279 --> 01:41:23.680
<v Speaker 11>We share products with Mexico and Canada. We build cars

1886
01:41:23.720 --> 01:41:28.479
<v Speaker 11>by moving chassis's in tires to Mexico, Canada, they move

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01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:30.159
<v Speaker 11>all through North America.

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01:41:30.760 --> 01:41:32.760
<v Speaker 8>That was a plan of all.

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01:41:32.640 --> 01:41:36.039
<v Speaker 11>The manufacturing companies twenty five years ago. Now, all of

1890
01:41:36.079 --> 01:41:38.680
<v Speaker 11>a sudden, it would be great to bring them all back,

1891
01:41:39.239 --> 01:41:42.079
<v Speaker 11>but that's not going to happen in three days, three months,

1892
01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:45.800
<v Speaker 11>three weeks, not even three years. I mean, that is

1893
01:41:45.880 --> 01:41:52.119
<v Speaker 11>probably a ten year process to bring manufacturing back, if not,

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01:41:53.520 --> 01:41:56.000
<v Speaker 11>you know, and this idea that we can do it

1895
01:41:56.039 --> 01:41:59.760
<v Speaker 11>this quickly is not a problem. Now I've said all

1896
01:42:00.319 --> 01:42:04.560
<v Speaker 11>it would be great if we change the curve so

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01:42:04.600 --> 01:42:07.319
<v Speaker 11>that we influence manufacturers to come back.

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01:42:07.680 --> 01:42:08.840
<v Speaker 8>We got them back in the.

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<v Speaker 11>Next five to ten years, and we got that happening.

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<v Speaker 11>It's not going to happen today, tomorrow or next week,

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01:42:15.960 --> 01:42:18.000
<v Speaker 11>and the American people will have to pay for this

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01:42:18.119 --> 01:42:19.000
<v Speaker 11>in the short term.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Jim or Nacy, thank you for a voluminous

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time, and we appreciate that. Have a great day,

1905
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<v Speaker 2>thank you, thank you very much. That's it. Bearcat basketball,

1906
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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve tournament just ahead on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a fantastic day, won't you.