Speaker 1: I don't want to be an American idiot.
Speaker 2: I come to you this morning with a heavy heart.
Speaker 2: As you understand, I am not Scott's Loan. I will
Speaker 2: never be Scott's loan. I would never pretend to be
Speaker 2: Scott's loane. But I am here this morning. I didn't
Speaker 2: expect to be here this morning. On an errand of mercy.
Speaker 2: Scott's Loan is not dead. He will live in the
Speaker 2: hearts and minds of all of those who love him.
Speaker 2: We'll leave you back. I can't predict the future, but
Speaker 2: just in case, I want to tell you a little
Speaker 2: bit about Scott Sloan. Just a working class kid from Buffalo,
Speaker 2: New York who had a dream, a dream of some
Speaker 2: day shoveling out of that Lake Effect nightmare and rooting
Speaker 2: for an NFL team that got to four Super Bowls
Speaker 2: and lost them all. He had to get away. His
Speaker 2: parents both worked twelve hour shifts at the salt piles
Speaker 2: for the Buffalo, New York Department of Transportation. It's job
Speaker 2: security in Buffalo, and he and his siblings worked after
Speaker 2: school jobs to help the family make ends meet, dipping
Speaker 2: hot beef into wack and perfecting ranch and blue cheese.
Speaker 2: Dressing for the dipping of celery and carrots. He eventually
Speaker 2: made his way to a lesser metropolis, if it's possible
Speaker 2: to have a lesser metropolis in Buffalo, New York, called Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 2: In Toledo he would flourish, becoming the main talk show
Speaker 2: host at thirteen sixty WSPD. He became a local radio
Speaker 2: legend there. He was the toast of the town and
Speaker 2: was once featured on the kiss I Am at a
Speaker 2: mud Hen's home game, actually smooching with a mud Hen. Yes,
Speaker 2: he was the main rooster, the cock of the walk,
Speaker 2: the talk of the town until they're one unfortunate mistake
Speaker 2: comment he made about a balcony in a shooter. Al
Speaker 2: Sharpton has never forgiven him. But the WISEN programmers saw
Speaker 2: something else in Scott Sloane that other people had not
Speaker 2: to that point, and he came to seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: It's uh ironic that I am honoring him now on
Speaker 2: these sacred airwaves today, the way he honored Bill Cunningham
Speaker 2: last week, and the way Bill Cunningham used to honor
Speaker 2: the Trucking Bozo fifteen years before the Trucking Bozo died
Speaker 2: Scott's loan is not dead. He will live on. As
Speaker 2: I mentioned in all of our hearts, a good show
Speaker 2: for you on a shoestrig today and we will get
Speaker 2: it started with a friend named Rob Rosselli here in
Speaker 2: just a few minutes. Also Nathan Burning from an organization
Speaker 2: called Let Them Live Alternatives to Abortion in America. In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. We also have Leishai Lamish from shan Yune,
Speaker 2: Savannah Maddox from the sixty first District in the state
Speaker 2: of Kentucky. The legislative session there in the Commonwealth currently
Speaker 2: going on. She's busy in committees and drafting bills and
Speaker 2: taking time in between to talk to us. Also, as
Speaker 2: you know, on the federal on the national level, they
Speaker 2: are going to vote today in the House to see
Speaker 2: if they can pass their Continuing Resolution, in other words,
Speaker 2: continuing to kick the can down the road. They say
Speaker 2: it's a clean bill. Will it pass is the question.
Speaker 2: And there's much more head Matt Morning will join us
Speaker 2: this morning about ten thirty five. Matt Monning is a
Speaker 2: guy several years ago, a former Cincinnati cop, long long
Speaker 2: time ago, and is a collector and just an amazing
Speaker 2: collection that Matt has assembled over the time that he
Speaker 2: has been doing this, and just will listen to some
Speaker 2: of the things that Matt has and some tips for
Speaker 2: you who like to collect and resell or whatever it
Speaker 2: is you do with that kind of stuff. It's the
Speaker 2: Scottslan Show without Scott's Loan. And that's why I have
Speaker 2: a heavy heart today. It could be the thickening of
Speaker 2: the left wall from the minor heart disease I'm suffering from,
Speaker 2: but a heavy heart nonetheless. Rob Rosselli coming up next.
Speaker 2: He says America needs God. We'll find out why in
Speaker 2: just a moment on seven hundred WLW. Our first guest
Speaker 2: on this Tuesday morning, March eleventh, is as a man
Speaker 2: who believes that what America needs right now is not
Speaker 2: a continuing resolution passed today in the House of Representatives,
Speaker 2: not those not to get in or get out of
Speaker 2: Ukraine or any of the other countless wars that are
Speaker 2: springing up all over the globe right now. But America
Speaker 2: needs God to find out who he is why, he
Speaker 2: says this, and a great peace that just came out
Speaker 2: yesterday by him. Rob Rosselli joins The Scott Sloane Show
Speaker 2: Gary Jeffen for Sloani Rob, good morning.
Speaker 1: How are you, hey, Gary, I'm doing good and thanks
Speaker 1: for having me on.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's a pleasure to have you on. Just
Speaker 2: for those of us who believe I'm fully standing with you. Yes,
Speaker 2: America needs God. We need to return to the moral
Speaker 2: roots that help found this nation a Judeo Christian nation.
Speaker 2: And this piece that you wrote is just just wonderful
Speaker 2: talking about how America and man could not live on
Speaker 2: debt alone. And we're in a whole lot of trouble financially,
Speaker 2: aren't we. Rob.
Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. And if you don't mind, I'll take
Speaker 1: a minute to step back and look at the panoramic
Speaker 1: here and give up my website. The website Box of
Speaker 1: sunglasses dot com. It's all one word, and the most
Speaker 1: important thing people can get out of this is if
Speaker 1: nothing else is God simple salvation plan. And if they
Speaker 1: like what they hear, they can support me through buying
Speaker 1: my books available on the website. I do this, This
Speaker 1: is my own doing. I don't have any support. I
Speaker 1: don't do any YouTube ads or any any pop up
Speaker 1: ads or anything like that. So again, Box of Sunglasses
Speaker 1: dot com, God Simple Salvation Plan, and I'll leave it
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 2: Well, you you work in you work in construction or something,
Speaker 2: don't you rob full time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well I'm a civil engineer. I'm a freshial engineer,
Speaker 1: and I do construction inspection in New York City for
Speaker 1: a living right now, So you know I have an
Speaker 1: engineering background, of logical mathematical background. I'm not saying that's
Speaker 1: the brightest guy in the world. That's just the way
Speaker 1: I think. So when we look at something like the
Speaker 1: Federal Reserve system, I look at it logically and mathematically.
Speaker 2: You say that Donald Trump, well, it was a good
Speaker 2: thing that Donald Trump got into office. So far he
Speaker 2: and his administration haven't really addressed the problem properly.
Speaker 1: Well, you know again, look at the view for ten
Speaker 1: thousand feet. You know, the Federal Reserve is one aspect
Speaker 1: of the co conspiracy. And when I say conspiracy, I
Speaker 1: mean Jesus is at the core. The Bible is the
Speaker 1: core the conspiracy, and I mean the Jesus of the
Speaker 1: at of it discourse and the one that's through the
Speaker 1: money to out of the temple. Not this interfaith you
Speaker 1: know your best life now, nonsense to hear from people
Speaker 1: like Joel Oldstein and Rick Warren and the other fools.
Speaker 1: So I mean to get to your question specifically about
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I mean Proverbs twenty two to seven. I'm
Speaker 1: in the debtorous slave to the lender until Donald Trump
Speaker 1: directly addresses the quote federal quote reserve system, which is
Speaker 1: not federal, has no reserve. It's a private, criminal banking
Speaker 1: cartel which creates money out of nothing, loans to the
Speaker 1: government and banks at interests. Yes, it's that bad until
Speaker 1: Donald Trump goes in and directly confronts the cartel of
Speaker 1: the federal reserve, and everything he's doing amounts to nonsense.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm just saying on
Speaker 1: from a mathematical basis, the debt can never be paid
Speaker 1: off with what he's doing. All he's doing is slowing
Speaker 1: down the rate of increase. Okay, we go into debt
Speaker 1: to the tune of one trillion with a t dollars
Speaker 1: every one hundred days, uh in this country. And that's
Speaker 1: still going on. H And that's ten billion dollars a
Speaker 1: day every day. So when you know when Fox News
Speaker 1: when they get on there and you know jump for
Speaker 1: joy that you know you cut one hundred million here
Speaker 1: or twenty millionaire or even a billion with a bee
Speaker 1: here and there. Uh, it's factions of a percent of
Speaker 1: what our actual debt is.
Speaker 2: Well, the actual debt is. The actual debt is not
Speaker 2: thirty six trillion or approaching thirty seven trillion any day now.
Speaker 2: It is actually more to the point one hundred to
Speaker 2: two hundred trillion dollars with the unfunded mandates of Medicare, Medicaid,
Speaker 2: so security.
Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, that's correct. I mean, depending on what source
Speaker 1: you listen to. And you know, again you're not gonna
Speaker 1: hear this on Fox News. But the unfunded liabilities I've heard,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere ring between one hundred trillions with a
Speaker 1: T to twohndred trillion with a team. That's that includes
Speaker 1: things that you just mentioned, which is another reason Donald
Speaker 1: Trump can compolitically never get rid of the federal reserve system.
Speaker 1: But it's just politically untenable. You know, people are going
Speaker 1: nuts right now because thirty or fifty thousand government workers,
Speaker 1: you know, useless government workers have been cut from the payrolls.
Speaker 1: I mean, just wait until he tried to get rid
Speaker 1: of Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid and things where
Speaker 1: tens of millions of people have become dependent on the
Speaker 1: federal government. It's just it's just not practical. It's just
Speaker 1: never going to happen. I mean, so, you know, the
Speaker 1: more I think about it logically and look at things categorically,
Speaker 1: Donald Trump might be full of it, him and Elon Musk,
Speaker 1: I mean that, you know, it tells me that they
Speaker 1: have ulterior motives and people maga. People may not want
Speaker 1: to hear that. And you know, again I'll say, you know,
Speaker 1: of course I support you know, cutting weights and going
Speaker 1: after fraud and this sort of thing. But again, he's
Speaker 1: not getting to the core of the issue, which is
Speaker 1: the federal reserve system itself.
Speaker 2: You say America needs God, and I believe that as well,
Speaker 2: but explain if you can.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, again I mentioned a few minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I mean that in the Bible and Jesus are at
Speaker 1: the core of the quot conspiracy. And and you can't vote,
Speaker 1: you can't be a believer and not understand that. I mean,
Speaker 1: this nation was founded on Christian principles. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole idea of separation of powers, you know, was based
Speaker 1: on the inherent evil, the evil heart Jeremiah seventeen of Man.
Speaker 1: So you know where a nation where we have to
Speaker 1: vote whether a baby born alive eccellent abortion should be
Speaker 1: allowed to live. I mean, that's the level of moral
Speaker 1: of the kay that we have sunk into. So to
Speaker 1: believe that we can just put you know, this solve
Speaker 1: all our problems economically with someone like Donald Trump of
Speaker 1: Elon Mosss just cutting waste and all this, it's just
Speaker 1: not it doesn't it doesn't add up, you know, no
Speaker 1: pun intended, it's just it just can't happen. I mean, morally,
Speaker 1: we're decayed. I mean and just just look for example,
Speaker 1: look at the look at the radical left. I mean,
Speaker 1: look what they're doing. They're already we're just seeing the
Speaker 1: the tip of the icebread with the violence against you know,
Speaker 1: the tessela dealerships and the threat the threats on Elon Muskin.
Speaker 1: Of course we're on o' donald Trump's life. I mean,
Speaker 1: these people, Uh, these people are shot. There's there's millions
Speaker 1: of them. Uh, and this whole thing is getting ready
Speaker 1: to explode because people just don't understand. They become wards
Speaker 1: of the state to a large extent. Uh. And those
Speaker 1: that aren't wars of the state are supported by these
Speaker 1: radical left communists. So where this is a powder kid
Speaker 1: getting ready to explode. And the more Trump and Elon
Speaker 1: mess with it, the shorter that fuse is getting in.
Speaker 2: This in this piece, in this piece that you released,
Speaker 2: by the way, where you can where can you find
Speaker 2: this piece? Man cannot live on dead alone? Is that
Speaker 2: at a box of sunglasses dot com?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well legs dot com has all home myle information
Speaker 1: on I mean that specific. You know what I just wrote.
Speaker 1: I just wrote that over the weekend. That basically comes
Speaker 1: through my publicist. It's not actually posted on my website,
Speaker 1: although I can post it, and I probably shouldn't that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you should get busy doing that. Uh, but you
Speaker 2: you make the analogy at the top of this. In
Speaker 2: Stephen King's Needful Things, a character by the name of
Speaker 2: Leland Gaunt enters a small New England town and sets
Speaker 2: up his shop. He hands out all kinds of free gifts,
Speaker 2: but at a price. Whoever takes the free gifts is
Speaker 2: beholden to him, and that the gift he coerced into
Speaker 2: having someone else in the town or hating someone else
Speaker 2: in the town, and set out to harm them in
Speaker 2: multiple ways by this new mysterious benefactor. So, in other words,
Speaker 2: you take the freebies from somebody else's pocket, basically because
Speaker 2: the government doesn't have money of its own, it gets
Speaker 2: it from the rest of us. But then you're beholden
Speaker 2: to the government for that that freebie. Whatever that might
Speaker 2: be correct.
Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. And what the federal reserve system is again,
Speaker 1: it was created by Lucifarians and Satanists. I mean that literally,
Speaker 1: you can look at the all seeing eye and top
Speaker 1: of your Federal reserve note on the back of it.
Speaker 1: I don't enough time to get into that right now,
Speaker 1: but it's an evil to the core system.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And what it has done is has engendered this kind
Speaker 1: of interracial, uh, interclass hatred of people and and and
Speaker 1: it's it's made everybody dependent, in other words, everybody on welfare. Now,
Speaker 1: when you're going and cut welfare, they're going to say, well,
Speaker 1: you know it's this group, so and so, it's their fault.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the rich, it's this people, it's bad people.
Speaker 1: It's set everybody in the nation off against each other. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and again without job with it with the
Speaker 1: purely economic viewpoint, and that that's what we've done. We've
Speaker 1: we've jettisons and moral foundation that we've had. Hi've gone
Speaker 1: to a purely uh you know, the government is God,
Speaker 1: money is God Metaligan. That's where we are and people
Speaker 1: need to you know again, that movie Needful Things is analogous.
Speaker 1: It's an exact analogy to where we are. I mean,
Speaker 1: if Leland God represents Lucifer himself, uh and and and
Speaker 1: his shop represents the Federal Reserve syst And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what we've done to me. We've doled out money to
Speaker 1: people and made them dependent. So when somebody comes in
Speaker 1: and says, we can't keep doing this, we can't keep
Speaker 1: going into debt, we have to stop this, people just
Speaker 1: don't understand. Also they don't understand is that the rich
Speaker 1: did it. It's the rich man's fault, it's the white
Speaker 1: man's fault, whatever, who's ever fault it is?
Speaker 2: Right? Well, Rob, listen, this is a great this is
Speaker 2: a great discussion, but we got to end it because
Speaker 2: I'm running out of time here, Rob Roselli Box of
Speaker 2: Sunglasses dot com if you would like to find out more,
Speaker 2: and thank you, my friend. I appreciate your time. All right.
Speaker 2: Nathan Burning on the other side, since the Dobb's decision
Speaker 2: essentially overturned roby Wad abortions have actually increased in this country,
Speaker 2: Gary Jeffen Forsloni on seven hundred WLW. And I preface
Speaker 2: that because our next guest is part of a real,
Speaker 2: real different organization called Let Them Live. He and his
Speaker 2: wife Emily spearheaded this and we're going to talk to
Speaker 2: him right now. His name is Nathan Burning. Nathan, good morning.
Speaker 2: How are you.
Speaker 4: Great to be on? You know, it's exciting to talk
Speaker 4: about what we work on and you know how we
Speaker 4: can continue to help moms and cancel abortions, you know,
Speaker 4: even after Roe is overturned.
Speaker 2: So right, but as I mentioned at the top, there
Speaker 2: have been more abortions performed in this country, mostly through
Speaker 2: chemical abortions, than we're going on before the Dobbs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we call we call that the chemical coat hanger.
Speaker 4: And there's a reason for that because basically, now you
Speaker 4: can get abortion pills the black market. It's actually really
Speaker 4: easy to do it, and we've actually done it before
Speaker 4: just to see how easy it is to do it.
Speaker 4: It's it's unfortunate, but it's it's even easier now to
Speaker 4: get an abortion in a lot of ways. So so
Speaker 4: we have to provide an alternative to that. You know, right,
Speaker 4: you're touting your abortion solution pill, so kind of.
Speaker 2: Go through Yeah, go through that.
Speaker 4: Explain that, sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the so the concept is if somebody is considering abortion,
Speaker 4: then they need an alternative, they need something else, And
Speaker 4: what we offer them is financial support, which is rent, utilities,
Speaker 4: car payments, gas, groceries, whatever is they need, and emotional
Speaker 4: and spiritual support. So we'll connect them with counselors and
Speaker 4: mentors and people that are willing to just walk alongside
Speaker 4: them through their pregnant And we've found that when we're
Speaker 4: partnering with pregnancy health centers, we will effectively reduce abortions
Speaker 4: by ninety eight percent. So that means ninety eight percent
Speaker 4: of women that walk into a pregnancy health center that
Speaker 4: we work with will choose life. And that's the statistic
Speaker 4: that has never been seen before.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense, Yeah, it makes sense. What I'm
Speaker 2: wondering is because I've heard about this from other organizations
Speaker 2: that aren't yours, but also are focusing on the mother
Speaker 2: and the baby and stopping the abortions. There's a Compass
Speaker 2: Care organization run out of New York and has offices
Speaker 2: across the country who give women alternatives to aborting their baby,
Speaker 2: killing their baby in utero. But what I'm wondering to
Speaker 2: know as the abortion industry, because this is something people
Speaker 2: don't necessarily understand or regard it this way, But the
Speaker 2: abortion industry actually exists. It's like the military industrial complex.
Speaker 2: It's the abortion infancante in fanticide complex, I call it.
Speaker 2: And they strike out against against organizations like yours. Have
Speaker 2: you met resistance from those people directly with what you're
Speaker 2: doing with let them live?
Speaker 4: It's ironic that you would ask that, because we see
Speaker 4: less resistance than you would think. We see that a
Speaker 4: lot of the workers that work at abortion clinics they
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe the abortionist is so cold hearted that
Speaker 4: he's willing to perform an abortion no matter what, but
Speaker 4: a lot of the staff is not the same. And
Speaker 4: so staff has started to actually send us from Planned
Speaker 4: parenthood clinics women that don't actually want to have abortions
Speaker 4: and just feel forced into having them, becoming more and
Speaker 4: more common for us to receive those referrals from abortion staff,
Speaker 4: and even starting to work a little bit more directly
Speaker 4: with the abortion clinics when they when these women don't
Speaker 4: want abortions, and the reality is that that's ninety eight
Speaker 4: percent of the time if we were if we were
Speaker 4: always there. I mean, this is it's a sad and
Speaker 4: difficult reality to comprehend. But if they knew that there
Speaker 4: was an alternative that allowed them to keep their baby,
Speaker 4: then they would choose that ninety eight percent of the time.
Speaker 2: Really, and how did you discover this and and what
Speaker 2: what was the genesis of your organization? I know that
Speaker 2: you and your wife worked together and started this Let
Speaker 2: Them Live, but uh, what what was the fire starter
Speaker 2: for you? What what sparked the idea and what made
Speaker 2: you think you know what, if we can if we
Speaker 2: can get this organization together and get the funding and
Speaker 2: give this economic and spiritual relief to pregnant mothers, then
Speaker 2: they'll wind up keeping their baby. What started it all
Speaker 2: for you and Emily.
Speaker 4: Nathan, Well, I can tell you it definitely did not
Speaker 4: start out as a spiritual thing because I was not
Speaker 4: a Christian and I was actually pro choice when I
Speaker 4: first met Emily before we got married. And you know,
Speaker 4: it was just one of our late night discussions about
Speaker 4: abortion where I was explaining to her why I was
Speaker 4: not pro life. And one of the things that came up,
Speaker 4: is we don't have a good alternative to abortion. So
Speaker 4: I think I even said, you know, abortion is a
Speaker 4: terrible solution. It's a terrible solution, but at least there's
Speaker 4: a solution. And of course my mind has changed dramatically
Speaker 4: since that point. But I brought up some really important
Speaker 4: points that she confirmed, which is that there wasn't really
Speaker 4: a great alternative. I think at the time I would say,
Speaker 4: you know, we throw it, we throw diapers at the problem,
Speaker 4: or we say, you know, they should just do it option,
Speaker 4: but we're not really addressing the root cause of abortion.
Speaker 4: And so I wanted to test that out. And one
Speaker 4: time I asked, I asked a young woman, you know,
Speaker 4: why are you having this abortion? And she said, well,
Speaker 4: I got kicked out of my apartment. I'm living in
Speaker 4: my car, I lost custody at my children, and I
Speaker 4: just can't. I hardly want to live anymore, let alone
Speaker 4: have another child. And so I was like, well, what
Speaker 4: is it going to cost to get back into your apartment?
Speaker 4: And it was basically all the money we had in
Speaker 4: our bank account. So Emily and I decided we would
Speaker 4: help her and just see if it worked, and it did,
Speaker 4: so she canceled her abortion and she chose life. And
Speaker 4: of course after that happened, I still I would say
Speaker 4: I would have called myself pro life after I had
Speaker 4: that experience. But once I actually held the first baby
Speaker 4: that we saved from abortion, then everything changed for me.
Speaker 4: It's like the scales fell off of my eyes and
Speaker 4: there there was no going back. You know, once you're
Speaker 4: really pro life, your pro life forever, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: do you and Emily have children? No, we actually are
Speaker 4: not able to have children because of just some issues
Speaker 4: with fertility the Emily unfortunately has had to deal with.
Speaker 4: And but we have adopted embryos, frozen embryos that were
Speaker 4: We actually adopted fifteen frozen embryos that had been frozen
Speaker 4: for thirty years while they were actually older than Emily,
Speaker 4: and we actually we gave them all a chance because
Speaker 4: you know, that's what we believed in doing. But they
Speaker 4: would have been frozen forever or they would have been
Speaker 4: thought out and discarded if we hadn't adopted them. And
Speaker 4: so we participated in a it's called the Open Hearts
Speaker 4: program with Nightlight Christian Services, So it's a Christian embryo
Speaker 4: adoption agency and we adopt the snowflake babies is what
Speaker 4: they're called. And unfortunately all of them didn't make it.
Speaker 4: We gave them all a chance, but we did adopt
Speaker 4: ten more embryos to them and we're getting ready to
Speaker 4: transfer a few of those. Emily is going to have
Speaker 4: a few of those transferred here soon.
Speaker 2: So what well will you do in vitro fertilization with
Speaker 2: these embryos? How does that work?
Speaker 4: So it's technically not considered in video fertilization because that's
Speaker 4: the process of creating the embryos. Right Once the embryos
Speaker 4: are created, then there's there's a process of implantation, which
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's basically requires you know, the doctor
Speaker 4: inserting like some kind of a device to put the
Speaker 4: embryo into the womb. And I mean it's actually a
Speaker 4: pretty miraculous process. You're watching it on the screen and
Speaker 4: you can see the embryos like implanting into the womb.
Speaker 4: You can watch it happen in real time. So they're growing,
Speaker 4: they're not frozen anymore. They're growing and they're getting implanted.
Speaker 4: And Emily and I just believe that we want to
Speaker 4: give them all a chance at life, because otherwise they'll
Speaker 4: just be either frozen in for eternity or they'll die.
Speaker 2: Sure. Well, here's the issue that a lot of people
Speaker 2: have with IVF, Nathan, is that so many embryos are
Speaker 2: sacrificed for the few and people who are truly pro
Speaker 2: life believe that life begins at conception, and these are
Speaker 2: actually also babies, these embryos that do not make it
Speaker 2: through the IVF process. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 2: the percentages are, but it's crazy how many are destroyed
Speaker 2: just to create one. So how do you feel about
Speaker 2: the whole process of IVF because that has been a
Speaker 2: major point of contention, and Donald Trump has talked about it,
Speaker 2: and these states have decided whether they're going to allow
Speaker 2: IVF or not whether to ban it because many people
Speaker 2: who are staunchly pro life believe that IVF is another
Speaker 2: form of infanticide essentially. I mean, where do you come
Speaker 2: down on that issue? I'm just curious, great question.
Speaker 4: Yeah, simply, and I believe life begins at conception, which
Speaker 4: is at the point that you know, the sperm and
Speaker 4: the egg combine into an embryo or into his ego,
Speaker 4: I guess is what they call it at that stage.
Speaker 4: And that's why we want to help and save these
Speaker 4: embryos that have already been created via IVF. With that said,
Speaker 4: we do not believe in IVF and we do not
Speaker 4: support IVF, and we routinely tell people not to do
Speaker 4: IVF because it's kind of annoying. It's kind of like
Speaker 4: when you're trying to help people to not have abortions.
Speaker 4: It's like they're creating a problem that otherwise wouldn't exist.
Speaker 4: So if IBF wasn't happening, then there wouldn't be a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So what about contraception and the preventing of pregnancy
Speaker 2: through the natural act of insemination, sex, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously we're we're against a bortifation contraception
Speaker 4: And I'm actually working on a project right now to
Speaker 4: create a new model for the national level for pregnancy
Speaker 4: health clinics that would actually that would compete directly with
Speaker 4: Planned Parenthood in the community, is that Planned Parenthood is
Speaker 4: in for every single one of their clients, and they
Speaker 4: would not offer a bortifation contraception, they would not offer
Speaker 4: gender transition services, and they would not offer abortion. And
Speaker 4: they could be Christian organizations and they can compete for
Speaker 4: the same federal funds the Planned Parenthood is currently receiving,
Speaker 4: and we're working on a model for that that we
Speaker 4: can expand all over the country. We're working with several
Speaker 4: other organizations to create that model. That's the way that
Speaker 4: we defeat Planned Parenthood and chop the head off of
Speaker 4: Goliath is we have to create an alternative. We have
Speaker 4: to address, like you were saying earlier, we have to
Speaker 4: address the market. We have to compete in this industry
Speaker 4: against Planned parenthood because we can't depend on the government
Speaker 4: to solve this problem for us.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, So brass tacks down to the wire here,
Speaker 2: Nathan Burning. How many women has your organization been able
Speaker 2: to help not get an abortion, let them live as
Speaker 2: the name of the organization. What's your count at so far?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so far, we've helped a little over one thousand
Speaker 4: women choose life, and we've had a number of twins
Speaker 4: and triplet babies, so we actually I think it's more
Speaker 4: like one thy fifteen babies and about one thousand women.
Speaker 4: I think we just hit the thousand mark here a
Speaker 4: couple of days ago, so we just got to a
Speaker 4: thousd and we're very excited to just keep replicating this
Speaker 4: formula that is working well.
Speaker 2: I think it's a wonderful thing you're doing. And again,
Speaker 2: this is an alternative to killing babies. So babies being
Speaker 2: killed by women who feel like they've got nowhere else
Speaker 2: to turn, and you're giving them that option. How do
Speaker 2: people find out more? How do they maybe help contribute
Speaker 2: to what you're doing if you take donations? What's the
Speaker 2: deal there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we crowdfund for the moms that we help. So
Speaker 4: you go to let them Live dot org, which is
Speaker 4: let them Live dot org. L E T t h
Speaker 4: E M l I ve e dot org. Sorry, some
Speaker 4: people don't know that there's two t's, so I mentioned
Speaker 4: that on the website. We actually talk about each individual mom.
Speaker 4: We have her story and we have to anonymize it
Speaker 4: for her privacy and just in general because these moms
Speaker 4: are going through a terrifying experience. But you can read
Speaker 4: their stories, you can see what their needs are, and
Speaker 4: then you can.
Speaker 2: Give all right, fantastic. I can't tell you how much
Speaker 2: admiration I have hearing you tell the story and what
Speaker 2: you're doing, and you're obviously having some success. Every time
Speaker 2: there is a baby born. This is a blessing from God.
Speaker 2: I believe that, and you are helping mothers realize that
Speaker 2: blessing in their lives, and I just can't applaud you more.
Speaker 2: Let them live. Dot org is the organization. And this
Speaker 2: is the great thing about it too, Nathan, is it's individualized.
Speaker 2: Like you said, each individual mom is crowdfunded for you
Speaker 2: know what their story is. You may not know their
Speaker 2: name or their identity, but you know what their situation is,
Speaker 2: and you can make your decision based going forward on that.
Speaker 2: So I wish you a lot of success, continued success,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 4: That's right, Gary. You know it's a one in quadrillion
Speaker 4: chance that each of us would exist. I did the
Speaker 4: calculation myself, and it's a real miracle every time that
Speaker 4: we save a life, and we're so grateful to be
Speaker 4: a part of that. So thank you for the support,
Speaker 4: and I hope to be on again soon.
Speaker 2: One in quadrillion possibility that we're here. How did you
Speaker 2: how did you figure that out? Just by the number
Speaker 2: of sperm and and yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's a it's a it's a formula,
Speaker 4: you know. I love to create formulas for everything. Uh,
Speaker 4: And so it would be it be a long conversation.
Speaker 4: We can definitely talk about this. I'd love to come
Speaker 4: back on and talk about it. But I never even
Speaker 4: thought about it.
Speaker 2: How rare it is that life occurs to begin with Uh,
Speaker 2: We're we're the fastest swimmers, We're the best and the
Speaker 2: brightest of the lot, and we make it there first.
Speaker 2: Crazy Nathan Burning from let Himlive dot Org. This morning
Speaker 2: on The Scott's Loan Show, Gary Jeffin for sloaning a
Speaker 2: breaking back. Hey hey, hey, Tuesday, Bill Day passed the
Speaker 2: CR and keep the government open. Sometimes I think it'd
Speaker 2: be good if the government closed for a little while.
Speaker 2: Connie and independence real quickly on the subject of IVF.
Speaker 2: I've got about a minute. Connie, what's your question or comment?
Speaker 5: Well, I just you know, I'm a Christian as well,
Speaker 5: and I'm against abortion. But to say that you're going
Speaker 5: to talk someone out of IVF, I think is a
Speaker 5: horrible idea. My husband and I had to go through IVF.
Speaker 5: I had a hysterectomy after my first child, and when
Speaker 5: I remarried, he had never been married or had children,
Speaker 5: so because of that, I was not able to carry.
Speaker 1: Luckily, we were blessed with.
Speaker 6: An angel, my sister in law who actually.
Speaker 5: Carried our embryo for us, and we were able to
Speaker 5: have two biological, beautiful baby girls. And if you can't
Speaker 5: say that that's an act of.
Speaker 1: God, I don't know you know what else is.
Speaker 2: So hey, listen, God bless you for that, Conny, And
Speaker 2: all I'm saying is the argument on the other side
Speaker 2: is that all of the embryos that are destroyed in
Speaker 2: the process of creating the embryos that survive is what
Speaker 2: people have a problem with.
Speaker 5: Yes, and I haint no, I completely understand that. And
Speaker 5: most of the time when that happens, you know, these
Speaker 5: are embryos that were created with genetic defects and when
Speaker 5: not last in the Negro anyway, Yeah, you know, when
Speaker 5: we did that, we had four embryos, three of them
Speaker 5: or two of them made it, we implanted one, and
Speaker 5: the one that is still existing, it's frozen and we're
Speaker 5: hoping to donate that eventually.
Speaker 2: So the point of the matter is you have been
Speaker 2: blessed by God with children absolute and otherwise without that process,
Speaker 2: that would not have happened. And I'm happy for you,
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening, thanks for calling in news time
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Speaker 2: Burrow to have more weapons and more choices. So again,
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Speaker 2: the offensive line, and they re signed Cody Ford, but
Speaker 2: that offensive line is going to have to be bolstered
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 7: To uh.
Speaker 2: Oh, let's see here. Okay, we're going to do a
Speaker 2: little quick change here. We were going to have Savannah
Speaker 2: on with us at ten twenty, but she is ready
Speaker 2: now out of committee, working hard for the tax paying
Speaker 2: voters of the Commonwealth of Kentucky in the sixty first
Speaker 2: district From the Kentucky House, It's Savannah Maddics. Good morning, dear,
Speaker 2: how are you.
Speaker 6: Good morning. I'm doing very well. Happy to be on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've been in committee this morning. So explain to
Speaker 2: me and explain to the average dullard voter like me,
Speaker 2: what's what's it like when the legislature is in session,
Speaker 2: Because you guys aren't there for a long time. There
Speaker 2: are several weeks worth of sessions that you have. But
Speaker 2: explain what when you're when you're busy in committee, what
Speaker 2: what's a full day in Frankfort.
Speaker 6: Like Savannah, you are by no means a dullar.
Speaker 2: You're very involved.
Speaker 6: But that said, the thirty day session, in the sixty
Speaker 6: day session very significantly, and so much as during the
Speaker 6: thirty day we tend to not pass a lot of
Speaker 6: legislation in the very beginning.
Speaker 2: Well sometimes sometimes sometimes not passing a lot of legislation
Speaker 2: is a good thing.
Speaker 6: But anyway, absolutely, Hey, what what is this that I
Speaker 6: often hear that no man's pocketbook is safe when the
Speaker 6: Kentucky General Assembly is in session. But truly the thirty
Speaker 6: day it begins in January and it stretches out to
Speaker 6: the end of March, and there are thirty days within that.
Speaker 6: But the end of session is when things really start
Speaker 6: to move quickly into fly and you get these sneaky
Speaker 6: committee substitutes whereby a bill will deviate from its original
Speaker 6: version or get another bill added to it, and you
Speaker 6: really got to pay close attention because things move very quickly,
Speaker 6: and that's when the worst bills have a tendency to pass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in that florry and people are ready to
Speaker 2: close the session and they're trying to get something across
Speaker 2: the line that maybe, with time and consideration, would never
Speaker 2: get passed. I get you. Is there a Kentucky doze
Speaker 2: in the works? I've heard talk of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So we've passed that legislation out of committee so far,
Speaker 6: and there's a Senate version as well. And in addition
Speaker 6: to Doze, we have a Range Act, which this is
Speaker 6: actually the second Rains Act that I've been able to
Speaker 6: vote on since I've been in office. But this version
Speaker 6: is intended to really kind of try to rein in
Speaker 6: hence the name, some of the administrative regulations that nebulous
Speaker 6: web of bureaucracy that we see over in the executive
Speaker 6: branch where these are many laws that are being passed
Speaker 6: without legislative approval. So we want to make sure that
Speaker 6: we rain that in because the people's branch of government,
Speaker 6: the legislature, that's where our lall should be made, not
Speaker 6: by unelected bureaucrats.
Speaker 2: All right, what else is going on? Is there? Somebody
Speaker 2: was telling me about this the other day, and I
Speaker 2: want to talk to you because you've been very vocal
Speaker 2: about bringing the legal age down for owning a firearm
Speaker 2: and having your Second Amendment rights as an American citizen
Speaker 2: to eighteen year olds is Kentucky. Do you think that
Speaker 2: that will happen eventually? And also did you know about
Speaker 2: this social media push that the Governor Andy Bashir has
Speaker 2: been on telling people it's never been a better time
Speaker 2: to get your CCW. Of course, in Kentucky, you do
Speaker 2: not need a concealed carry permit to have one, but
Speaker 2: the governor seems to be telling people that it's a
Speaker 2: perfect time to get your CCW even though it's not required.
Speaker 2: Have you heard about that.
Speaker 6: I have not heard about that, But I'm going to
Speaker 6: look into that because that is kind of surprising to me.
Speaker 6: But as far as lowering the constitutional carriage, that's something
Speaker 6: that I've been working on for a multitude of years now,
Speaker 6: and we've gotten more momentum behind the issue ever since
Speaker 6: the Fifth Circuit decision has kind of propelled that into
Speaker 6: the spotlight. In other words, in Kentucky or other states,
Speaker 6: you run into the situation where eventually there's going to
Speaker 6: be litigation and taxpayers would be on the hook for that.
Speaker 6: So we need to do what a multitude of state
Speaker 6: have already done and lower that aged eighteen because this
Speaker 6: is a constitutional right. You shouldn't have to be twenty one,
Speaker 6: of course, and I anticipate we're running out of time
Speaker 6: this session, but next session I am very hopeful that
Speaker 6: we will get some forward momentum on that.
Speaker 2: Well, you can be eighteen and vote, you can be
Speaker 2: eighteen and serve your country and die for your country.
Speaker 2: Do you think that all of the things that are
Speaker 2: legal for twenty one year old should be legal for
Speaker 2: an eighteen year old.
Speaker 6: Well, you just said it best. It's pretty amazing to
Speaker 6: me that you can go overseas and fight for your
Speaker 6: country and whenever you come home you are not able
Speaker 6: to carry concealed firearm or have a drink or light
Speaker 6: up a cigarette. But I would say the main distinction
Speaker 6: among our Second Amendment rights versus the other two things
Speaker 6: that you have to be twenty one to do is
Speaker 6: that our Second Amendment right, of course, is protected by
Speaker 6: the Constitution. But that said, I one hundred percent agree
Speaker 6: that that that's not logical that adults should mean adults,
Speaker 6: and we've gotten to a place in society where we
Speaker 6: tend to perpetually infantilize young adults further and further. But no,
Speaker 6: at eighteen is the age of majority, and we need
Speaker 6: to start acting like it.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it all started really with Obamacare, when
Speaker 2: they told people in the legislation that your kid was
Speaker 2: a kid until he was twenty six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that Affordable Care Act.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember the Unaffordable Careless Act. Is I like
Speaker 2: to call it all right, Savannah? No big surprises though
Speaker 2: so far?
Speaker 6: Well, actually, I was pretty pleased today because there has
Speaker 6: been a bill floating around that relates to the confiscation
Speaker 6: and destruction of firearms in the event of criminal homicide
Speaker 6: and a few other circumstances, and managed to get that
Speaker 6: bill killed today. So that's one of the things that
Speaker 6: I tell folks is the way I just played a session,
Speaker 6: it's just as much about killing bad bills as it
Speaker 6: is passing good bills. So I consider that to be
Speaker 6: a victory in addition to a few other select victories
Speaker 6: this go around. And it's still early in terms of
Speaker 6: killing bad bills. There's a lot of work left to
Speaker 6: do on that front.
Speaker 2: Kill those bad bills and we'll get an update from
Speaker 2: you soon. All right, absolutely, Savannah Mattics from the sixty
Speaker 2: first District and the Commonwealth of Kentucky working hard for
Speaker 2: us on that side of the Ohio River. Gary jeff
Speaker 2: In for Sloane Lee Shi Lemish will join us next.
Speaker 8: Nothing.
Speaker 2: All righty, as we continue on this Tuesday morning on
Speaker 2: the Scott Slan Shaw, one real quick question for we
Speaker 2: need to get to our next guest, Jeff and Claremont County.
Speaker 2: You're telling me about the benefits of concealed carry. My
Speaker 2: point to Savannah was in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. You
Speaker 2: do not need a concealed carry license to conceal carry,
Speaker 2: was the point.
Speaker 3: That's true, Carrie, Yeah, and it's the same in the
Speaker 3: state of Ohio. But I've been a long time concealed
Speaker 3: carrier and I wasn't going to renew mine, but I
Speaker 3: was informed by local police who I know that if
Speaker 3: I do not have a concealed carry, legally, I cannot
Speaker 3: carry outside the state of Ohio. So because the state
Speaker 3: of Ohio has reciprocal agreements with other states, I would
Speaker 3: now be legal in those states because of my Ohio
Speaker 3: concealed carry. Now, I don't know if that would work
Speaker 3: for Kentucky, but I do know that that was the
Speaker 3: reason I renewed mine. I even verified by calling a
Speaker 3: couple other states that I be able to and I
Speaker 3: was told to guess, if you've got a valid Ohio
Speaker 3: concealed carry, you can legally carry in our state. But
Speaker 3: if you do not have one, you would have to
Speaker 3: get a permit for that state or you would be illegal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, if you go to Illinois state
Speaker 2: like that, you better you better darn well have your
Speaker 2: con seal carry because they will arrest you on the
Speaker 2: spot for just driving a car in that state unless
Speaker 2: you've got some kind of permit. But that's the difference
Speaker 2: between that's the difference between free states and criminal communist states.
Speaker 3: Jeff exactly. But that was the only reason I got mine,
Speaker 3: that I didn't want to get the handle with those states.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, there you go, good point, Thank you
Speaker 2: very much. Next is Lee Shai Lamis. She is a
Speaker 2: MC for Shen Yun. You may have seen the posters
Speaker 2: an that a month ago at the Air and Off.
Speaker 2: You may have seen the performance by Shen Yun. It's
Speaker 2: a beautiful celebration of like five thousand years of Chinese
Speaker 2: culture before communism, and the Communist Chinese Party is not
Speaker 2: happy with those performances even in America. And Lee Shai
Speaker 2: can tell you about the travails of having to deal
Speaker 2: with all kinds of sabotage and threats that they have
Speaker 2: based in our country from the Communist Chinese. Leshai, good morning,
Speaker 2: how are you. How's the tour going?
Speaker 4: Good morning?
Speaker 7: The tour itself, the performances themselves are great, they're going smoothly.
Speaker 7: It's the rest of it that we have to deal
Speaker 7: with that's been quite an adventure. So far.
Speaker 2: How do you know it's the Communist Chinese Party that
Speaker 2: is perpetrating all of this mayhem and sabotage on things
Speaker 2: like tour buses being slashed with slash tires, bomb threats.
Speaker 2: How do you know it's the CCP?
Speaker 7: Leisha, Yeah, well, you got to go back to the
Speaker 7: very beginning of how Shinyin was founded in two thousand
Speaker 7: and six in New York, and when the day we
Speaker 7: were founded that very first tour, and I was there
Speaker 7: from the very beginning eighteen years ago. The CCP was
Speaker 7: always trying to sabotage and interfere with what we're doing.
Speaker 7: The first thing they did is they would have their
Speaker 7: ambassadors and their consul generals go to the theaters right
Speaker 7: to them, call them here in the US and say,
Speaker 7: do not allow Sheen to perform this. It's an anti
Speaker 7: China show. It's a celebration of traditional Chinese culture, mind you,
Speaker 7: but yeah, this is an anti China show, and we
Speaker 7: will revoke our sister city relationship. You'll have the economic repercussion,
Speaker 7: we will not bring Chinese performing arts companies. So they're
Speaker 7: trying all that stuff. Then when that didn't work, they
Speaker 7: tried to put articles attacking us in newspapers like the
Speaker 7: Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post. They had this
Speaker 7: insert called the China Watch and that was basically paid
Speaker 7: advertisement by the CCP coming sea out of China Daily,
Speaker 7: and it was propaganda, but it was masquerading his articles.
Speaker 7: And if you didn't look carefully at the fine print
Speaker 7: and you just read the paper, you think, oh, this
Speaker 7: is the Washington Post writing about China. Why doesn't it
Speaker 7: sound like the Chinese Embassy. And then when that failed,
Speaker 7: they would have hackers try to hack our ticketing sites
Speaker 7: and shut down our website and my email and my
Speaker 7: LinkedIn account and all this stuff. And then they had
Speaker 7: people putting reviews online copy pasting them. They have this
Speaker 7: thing called the fifty cent Army, which I guess they
Speaker 7: get paid fifty Chinese cents per post, and they just,
Speaker 7: you know, thousands of these people posting all over the reviews.
Speaker 7: And then lately what we've seen is starting last year,
Speaker 7: we got leaked documents from China for the Ministry of
Speaker 7: State Security saying that they have an endgame type strategy
Speaker 7: against Chinyan performing arts and the broader dissident and especially
Speaker 7: the follow going practitioner community in the United States and
Speaker 7: they want to crush it once and for all, and
Speaker 7: they're going to escalate. And one of the things they
Speaker 7: talked about doing was supporting some social media influencers that
Speaker 7: were assets to try to get their narratives out against Chinyun,
Speaker 7: to try to weaponize mainstream media like The New York Times,
Speaker 7: to attack Shinyun, to try to start frivolous lawsuits against
Speaker 7: the company. And as these things are happening, this is
Speaker 7: when we're getting a death threat. So we got twenty
Speaker 7: something of them this year alone, different theaters that have
Speaker 7: received and these are all pranks, their scare tactics.
Speaker 2: Wasn't wasn't there wasn't there a wasn't there a bomb
Speaker 2: threat at the Kennedy Center.
Speaker 7: The Kennedy Center, Yeah, yep, I was there two weeks ago.
Speaker 7: We're getting ready for first show at the Kenney Center,
Speaker 7: right the heart of the United States. You know, we
Speaker 7: know who's in charge of the board there now, and
Speaker 7: you know, right in the center of DC, and we're
Speaker 7: getting ready to set up and the fire alarm goes
Speaker 7: off and they say this is not a drill. Evacuated immediately.
Speaker 7: And as they're pushing us around the buildings. I'm thinking,
Speaker 7: this is not a firearm, this is something more serious,
Speaker 7: and sure enough, we're standing.
Speaker 1: Outside in the cold.
Speaker 7: It was twenty degree weather there for three hours. The
Speaker 7: whole conflicts. Multiple performing arts companies were rehearsing and getting
Speaker 7: ready to perform, and yeah, it was a bomb threat
Speaker 7: targeting shiny In And then they brought the canines. They
Speaker 7: all the police was there, they searched everything, they did
Speaker 7: all the stuff that they do. There's nothing, there's never anything.
Speaker 7: They're just trying to scare people. And then we had
Speaker 7: to scramble get the show ready on time, and we
Speaker 7: performed on time, no problem. Had twelve shows there. We're
Speaker 7: heading all over the United States this weekend again and
Speaker 7: we'll be in Louisville, I think in April. But yeah,
Speaker 7: this is one of the things that we're dealing with
Speaker 7: right now, and I want people to know there's nothing
Speaker 7: actually a no actual threat. But we are facing this
Speaker 7: tremendous pressure from the Chinese commerce party in media and
Speaker 7: they're trying to do these like lawt air lawsuits against
Speaker 7: us for all these things. At our home base here
Speaker 7: in New York, a couple hours outside the city in
Speaker 7: the Hudson valley. They kept trying to file environmental lawsuits
Speaker 7: saying we're polluting, and they kept getting dismissed. And the
Speaker 7: last one got dismissed with prejudice, which means you can't
Speaker 7: you can't even file it against But guess what. The
Speaker 7: DJ last year, with the tremendous work of an FBI team,
Speaker 7: were able to fight two Chinese spies who were behind this.
Speaker 7: And they were in their indictment they said, you know,
Speaker 7: in their in court they said that they were getting
Speaker 7: orders directing from a PRC official who was telling about
Speaker 7: to do. And one of the things they were supposed
Speaker 7: to do was get these lawsuits against NY and against
Speaker 7: our headquarters here. And they ended up catching them because
Speaker 7: the spy tried to bribe what he thought was an
Speaker 7: IRS official to try to rebook our nonprofit status. Turned
Speaker 7: out that was an FBI and the cover agent got
Speaker 7: them on that. But they've been operating here for years.
Speaker 7: They probably got them. This is the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 7: We don't know how many CCP spies are out here.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. During Biden's open border for the
Speaker 2: last four years, tens of thousands of military age Chinese
Speaker 2: young men came into our country illegally across the border.
Speaker 2: What do you think the chances are these are CCP spies,
Speaker 2: Because if you come from China, the government of China
Speaker 2: has to pretty much give you permission to let you
Speaker 2: out of the country in the first place.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I mean, I think it would be naive
Speaker 7: to assume that there are not a lot of spies.
Speaker 7: I think we have to assume that many of them
Speaker 7: were certainly a lot of people who are just looking
Speaker 7: for financial opportunity. But you look at any Chinese national
Speaker 7: when they come to the US and they have family
Speaker 7: back in China, they have to keep an eye out
Speaker 7: for what the embassy is interested in in following. So,
Speaker 7: for example, Chinese students, they have these Chinese Students and
Speaker 7: Scholar associations. There's over one hundreds of across the country
Speaker 7: at CSSA, and they're run by the Chinese Embassy and Confluence.
Speaker 7: It's in their charter. And they're the ones who organize
Speaker 7: these welcome parades for cigping with the flags, the cancer protests,
Speaker 7: that kind of stuff. They're all the ones behind it.
Speaker 7: If you don't do that, they can revoke your your
Speaker 7: ability to study in the United States. They can get
Speaker 7: your family back in China. In trouble, you might be
Speaker 7: arrested and you go.
Speaker 1: Back to China.
Speaker 7: I know that all the performers in our company, the
Speaker 7: Chinese nationals who have a lot of them, become naturalized
Speaker 7: since they can't go back to China. Everybody's blacklisted. I'm
Speaker 7: blacklisted in China. I try to get into Hong Kong.
Speaker 7: One time they stopped me at the airport. And so
Speaker 7: there's a lot of pressure that you don't need to
Speaker 7: necessarily be a full time on salary kind of you know,
Speaker 7: James Bond villain type spy to work for the CCP.
Speaker 7: You can just be a regular man with a career.
Speaker 7: But if you want to go back to China and
Speaker 7: see your family, or you want to not get in trouble,
Speaker 7: you have to report on certain things, you have to
Speaker 7: do certain.
Speaker 1: Things that time.
Speaker 2: There you go, Lee Shailmish, thank you. Shn Yun continues
Speaker 2: its tour across the country. In Louisville, you say in April,
Speaker 2: I've never seen the show, but I've heard people who have,
Speaker 2: and it's just absolutely magic. It's about Chinese culture, five
Speaker 2: thousand years of it. Before the Communist Party took over
Speaker 2: and the Communist Party is not happy that that history
Speaker 2: is being shared in America and across the world. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much, Lesha, I appreciate your time. Thank you
Speaker 2: all right news and then Matt Mauning a collector's collector
Speaker 2: in studio coming up on seven ounther WLW. As we
Speaker 2: continue along the way on this Tuesday, before you see
Speaker 2: tournament basketball pregame at noon and then the game at
Speaker 2: twelve thirty against Oklahoma State on the home of the Bearcats,
Speaker 2: Gary Jeffin Forsloani, who's not dead, he's just incapacitated today
Speaker 2: and I'm glad he is because it gives me the
Speaker 2: opportunity to welcome into the studio. A guy that I
Speaker 2: met several years ago came into the bar actually when
Speaker 2: I was bar attending, and we talked, and he'd heard
Speaker 2: me on the air and said, we had, you know,
Speaker 2: some some at least philosophical things in common. It was
Speaker 2: an ex Cincinnati cop. But these days he is what
Speaker 2: I call the collector's collector, and he has shown me
Speaker 2: some amazing things that he has bought and then many
Speaker 2: cases sold over the years. And he's here with us now.
Speaker 2: Matt Manning, how are you doing, man, Well there you go,
Speaker 2: now I can hear you. Yeah, get somebody to turn
Speaker 2: on your mic. So when did you start this collect
Speaker 2: the collecting thing? When did you see this was a
Speaker 2: ticket for the rest of your life and a way
Speaker 2: to make money, but also a way to acquire some
Speaker 2: really cool stuff.
Speaker 9: When did this all start? You have to go back
Speaker 9: to when I was a real little kid. And back then,
Speaker 9: I mean, it wasn't the business that it is today.
Speaker 9: It was just more of a collectible saying that you
Speaker 9: would you know, you go to the ballpark and you know,
Speaker 9: you collect different things. But you know, I was born
Speaker 9: in sixty eight, you know, like seventy three. There's a
Speaker 9: place called the five eighty Gift Shop. You know, anyone
Speaker 9: here in Cincinnati will probably remember that, okay, you know,
Speaker 9: and you know back then when they first opened it up,
Speaker 9: I said, you know, they just weren't sure you because
Speaker 9: they knew there was people collecting things, and they just
Speaker 9: didn't know you know what, you know how rabid it was.
Speaker 9: You know how many people really you know, love this stuff.
Speaker 9: You know, so I'd work and everything, you know, when
Speaker 9: you know it's like five six years old. You know
Speaker 9: what I could do earning, you know, the runney around
Speaker 9: that neighborhood, you know, doing things for all the elderly people,
Speaker 9: you know. You see, you know, you get a couple
Speaker 9: of bucks in your pocket, right and I go down
Speaker 9: you know, yeah, I go down there, you know, and
Speaker 9: my mom at that point, Yeah, she'd give you ten
Speaker 9: dollars to spend, you know, which is nineteen seventy three.
Speaker 9: I mean that's a ton of money, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 9: you know, but I can use an extra ten today
Speaker 9: if you want to spare it.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: You tell people about this and they don't believe you,
Speaker 9: but you go down the five eighty gift shop and
Speaker 9: you know, they would It was just it was like
Speaker 9: operating out of a broom closet, you know, and you
Speaker 9: go down there and yeah, they'd have all these baseball
Speaker 9: bats in there. They'd have one side was a visiting team,
Speaker 9: the other side was the home team, you know, and
Speaker 9: you guys would crack a bat or something during the game,
Speaker 9: you know, taken out of play and in a different bat. Well,
Speaker 9: they started taking those bats to the five eighty gift shop,
Speaker 9: you know, and they put prices on them. So on
Speaker 9: the red side, you know, you know, there was like,
Speaker 9: you know, Johnny Bench, Pete Rose, Tony Perez, Joe Morgan.
Speaker 9: You're gonna pay a little bit extra for those guys,
Speaker 9: the guys that were stars. Everyone else was five dollars,
Speaker 9: you know, the stars were ten dollars.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 9: Anyone on the visiting side was five dollars. It didn't
Speaker 9: matter who it was. You get a Willy May's bat, really, stargel,
Speaker 9: whatever you wanted, you know, for five bucks.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, you know.
Speaker 9: And but that was the crazy lady thought we were
Speaker 9: crazy because she was just like, why are you wasting
Speaker 9: your hard earned money on stuff that we would just
Speaker 9: throw away? You know, they didn't understand, you know, why
Speaker 9: why are you buying these baseball bats?
Speaker 2: You know well, I mean at that point, you weren't
Speaker 2: even thinking about making money. They were just cool collectibles.
Speaker 2: These are the tools that the stars used that we
Speaker 2: watch and now we've got a piece of them in
Speaker 2: our hands. That's that's all.
Speaker 8: It was exactly, you know.
Speaker 9: And my older brother, you know, he was ten years older,
Speaker 9: you know, so he's in his teenage years, and they
Speaker 9: had something called Sports Collector's Digest, and it was like
Speaker 9: in the back of it, you know, people from all
Speaker 9: over the country would have ads in there with phone
Speaker 9: numbers you could call, and that's basically you know, people
Speaker 9: would trade among themselves that way.
Speaker 8: You know. Then it started to become selling and things
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 9: But my brother and my other and his friend, they
Speaker 9: would drag me down to the five eighty gift shop
Speaker 9: because they were already teenagers at that point, and some
Speaker 9: of the players were to understand that, you know, hey,
Speaker 9: these guys are getting these autographed cards and they're selling them,
Speaker 9: making money off, you know, when we sell something to
Speaker 9: sign a card for him. So they didn't like signing
Speaker 9: for the teenage guys. But I was like six years old,
Speaker 9: you know, So my brother would give me a handful
Speaker 9: of cards. You know, hey, hey there's Oscar gamb We'll
Speaker 9: go over and get his car. Get this sign, get
Speaker 9: this sign, get this sign, you know or whatever.
Speaker 8: Player.
Speaker 2: So they'd warm up to the little kids, not the teenager.
Speaker 8: They'd do it for the kids.
Speaker 9: But they didn't really like signing too much for teenagers,
Speaker 9: you know, because they realized that if it was starting
Speaker 9: to become a monetary thing, they weren't doing it because
Speaker 9: they were actually big fans.
Speaker 8: They were doing it to go make a bus.
Speaker 2: I tell this story all the time. Mat. When I
Speaker 2: was a little kid growing up in suburban Chicago, late sixties,
Speaker 2: about the time you were born, we collected baseball cards
Speaker 2: like almost any kid did at the time, you know,
Speaker 2: and they sell them with a pack of gum. You know,
Speaker 2: you've spent a quarter on the latest set of tops
Speaker 2: baseball cards or whoever it was. And I had an
Speaker 2: Earnie Banks rookie card that I traded with somebody, you
Speaker 2: know where it went in the spokes of my bicycle's
Speaker 2: That's what we used to do with baseball cards when
Speaker 2: we were kids. Put so it made that clock sound.
Speaker 2: We thought we were cool. We were just burning money
Speaker 2: up that we could have realized later on.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I mean just think all the stuff that
Speaker 9: you know, people went through their bike spokes, you know,
Speaker 9: or even like with it. Like in our family, my mom,
Speaker 9: you know, we had six kids, you know, so it
Speaker 9: was a cramped house to begin with. Her rule for
Speaker 9: me and my brother was a simple fact was you're
Speaker 9: not going to buy any cards for this year until
Speaker 9: you throw last year's in the garbage oz So you
Speaker 9: had to get rid of the year before before you
Speaker 9: were allowed to buy anything else.
Speaker 2: Now you brought you brought a Willy May's bat in here,
Speaker 2: a Louisville slugger. Obviously this is radio. People can't see you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but what what do you value that at
Speaker 2: on a collector's market, something like that.
Speaker 9: Like a Willie May's bat like this, I mean, you know,
Speaker 9: it's this be considered lower end. I mean, it's still
Speaker 9: his nails back in the barrel, which they used to
Speaker 9: do back then. And they know, up and down, even
Speaker 9: up until about the mid seventies, they'd still repair their
Speaker 9: bats by putting nails in them.
Speaker 8: I mean Willie May's bat.
Speaker 9: You know, it probably starts off and around you know,
Speaker 9: forty five hundred, five thousand dollars, and it can go
Speaker 9: up to and go up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2: It's like anything else. It's conditioned, condition condition.
Speaker 8: It's condition condition condition.
Speaker 9: And then with today's technology, I said, and now they've
Speaker 9: added all these other different things and they add value
Speaker 9: to a baseball bat. You know, so you got specific
Speaker 9: marks on bats, and with today's photography and film, you know,
Speaker 9: they can actually say, okay, well that bat was used
Speaker 9: to hit home run number five fifty five you.
Speaker 8: Know, or whatever.
Speaker 9: So when you can match a baseball bat up to
Speaker 9: a home runs specific home run off of a star player.
Speaker 2: That increases the value.
Speaker 8: It increases the.
Speaker 9: Value big time. But you know the problem is, I mean,
Speaker 9: it's like everything else. They everyone, they figured out in
Speaker 9: this business how to make money off everything. Just because
Speaker 9: you know it was done, you were at the game
Speaker 9: and it was given to you or whatever, that doesn't
Speaker 9: mean squat. You got to send it into a company
Speaker 9: called PSA, you know, and you have to where they have.
Speaker 8: You have to get it papered, is what they say.
Speaker 2: Sentimental value is not dollar valet.
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter about that what story you want to
Speaker 9: put with it. Nothing I said, and everything has to
Speaker 9: be proven, you know.
Speaker 2: So there's a little coin in a box right here.
Speaker 2: Explain what this is.
Speaker 8: This is a silver pass what do you mean?
Speaker 2: Silver pass to what.
Speaker 9: They're called lifetime passes, and mainly all the big wigs
Speaker 9: with each of the teams, you know, presidents of the club,
Speaker 9: friends at the club, you know, managers and things like that.
Speaker 9: Star players when they retire, you know, they're given what
Speaker 9: they called a silver pass.
Speaker 8: You know, this is a round one.
Speaker 9: But this is like a real early one from the
Speaker 9: Cincinnati Reds from eighteen ninety six. It's like the earliest
Speaker 9: one now, eighteen eighteen ninety six.
Speaker 2: What would be the value on something like that?
Speaker 8: Man, it runs a game? And I said, right now,
Speaker 8: about five.
Speaker 2: Grand, no know, just that little round coin.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's this most people would Most people do
Speaker 9: is they'll go, like today today's day ay technology. You
Speaker 9: just get on your phone or you go on a
Speaker 9: computer and you check out all these different sports auctions,
Speaker 9: you know, so people will try to find out, you know,
Speaker 9: what did this sell for you know, or was it
Speaker 9: ever in an auction? You know, so they look everything
Speaker 9: up and people go by that. But what I tell
Speaker 9: people is this, you can't go buy the latest auction price.
Speaker 9: That's that's by who knew it was in that auction,
Speaker 9: who was watching at the time, you know, who had
Speaker 9: the money to buy it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 9: I said, I can buy things out of an auction
Speaker 9: for four hundred dollars, give it to a different auction,
Speaker 9: and it'll sell for eight thousand dollars, you know, And
Speaker 9: I've done I've done it before. I mean, it's that's
Speaker 9: basically how I try to make a living as yell
Speaker 9: I deal with a bunch of different auctions. Find something
Speaker 9: in one, you get a great price on it. So
Speaker 9: to me, what's somebody So, what's something sold for? And
Speaker 9: it's all it's sold really low. It's only worth this.
Speaker 8: Well, no it's not. I said, things just you know,
Speaker 8: go through the cracks like it's.
Speaker 9: Worth whatever somebody's willing to pay for. Exactly, it's worth
Speaker 9: what someone's willing to pay, you know. And a lot
Speaker 9: of times they'll have a wrong description on something, you know,
Speaker 9: they'll have it totally wrong, and that'll turn off most
Speaker 9: of the collectors or something, and you know you'll be
Speaker 9: able to swoop in and get it for a decent price.
Speaker 2: Tell me about the Pete Rose cap that you brought in.
Speaker 2: It's his rookie camp.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's Pete Rose's nineteen sixty three rookie cap.
Speaker 8: You know, it's kind of neat.
Speaker 2: So where did you find that?
Speaker 9: I got it from one of the one of the
Speaker 9: best guys in the business that I know. Him and
Speaker 9: his dad were just huge Pete Rose fans, you know,
Speaker 9: and they actually knew Pete Rose, you know. So they
Speaker 9: had a ton of stuff of his and his name
Speaker 9: was a Sam Smith and Chris Smith, you know, and
Speaker 9: anyone in the Cincinnati area knows his name. I mean,
Speaker 9: he's just just a known expert on this stuff. So
Speaker 9: he didn't run a brick and mortar shop or do
Speaker 9: anything until recently.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 9: He was like me, just operating out of his car,
Speaker 9: running around buying and selling, going to different shows, doing everything.
Speaker 9: And I guess now now these and older, he kind
Speaker 9: of settled down and he went ahead and opened his
Speaker 9: own shop, you know. So this is where I got
Speaker 9: that cap from, along with me basically the majority of
Speaker 9: my collection. You know, he's the only guy in the
Speaker 9: business that would deal with me, you know, because I
Speaker 9: said I was an ex cop, so there's a lot
Speaker 9: of a lot of garbage that went along with that,
Speaker 9: and he was the only guy that would deal with me,
Speaker 9: you know. But I mean, he just he does it
Speaker 9: at a different level than me. And he's got so
Speaker 9: many people because he's been He's younger than me, but
Speaker 9: he he knows more people because of the way he's
Speaker 9: done his business and the way he's done things. And
Speaker 9: it's like anything you do today, it's networking, you know,
Speaker 9: so you know, you knowledgeable, you know, you need something
Speaker 9: anything sports related I mean, the guy's like a walking encyclopedia,
Speaker 9: so you sports related, historical related, you know.
Speaker 8: But he's not just a collector, I said. You know,
Speaker 8: he sells too, you know.
Speaker 2: So does the value of something like that Rickie Camp
Speaker 2: does it go up now that pizza no longer around?
Speaker 2: Because for the most part, like like I talked to
Speaker 2: a record appraiser, vinyl appraiser, and just because somebody is dead,
Speaker 2: it doesn't.
Speaker 9: Mean the item's worth more. But yeah, the situation like that. Yeah,
Speaker 9: it's different in the sports world. In the art world,
Speaker 9: you know. I mean they always tell you, you know,
Speaker 9: there's no successful or good artist and except a dead artist.
Speaker 8: You know. It's kind of the same way with baseball style.
Speaker 2: Wonder if I wonder if that will happen when Hunter
Speaker 2: Biden passed. Yeah, now you've shown me some other things
Speaker 2: in the past, and I wanted to ask you about
Speaker 2: historical items, like there was a check I guess from
Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln that you were showing me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, not, I have a check from Babe Ruth.
Speaker 9: And then it was yes, there's a it's an election ballot.
Speaker 9: Oh what an election ballot?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 8: Yeah, when Lincoln was first elected and in the second.
Speaker 2: In eighteen sixty and eighteen sixty four.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and it's just the election ballots. In fact, it's
Speaker 9: in the in the briefcase here. Yeah, that brought you know,
Speaker 9: so tell me about it. How did you acquire it?
Speaker 9: And what do you think you could get for it.
Speaker 9: I'm just curious the same thing I said. Yeah, it's
Speaker 9: a it runs a gamut. You can put them on eBay,
Speaker 9: and yes, sometimes you get up to a thousand dollars
Speaker 9: for him. But I got this from the same guy,
Speaker 9: you know. I mean, so you know, not only does
Speaker 9: he deal with sports stuff, he deals with historical stuff.
Speaker 9: And you know he ended up. You know, it's kind
Speaker 9: of like the show Pickers. You got all these guys
Speaker 9: around the Cincinnati area that do the same thing as them. Well,
Speaker 9: then they bring it to him, and you know, and
Speaker 9: the reason they bring it to him is because they
Speaker 9: they all know he's respectable and he's they're going to
Speaker 9: give him the best price for it.
Speaker 2: But there are a lot of unscrupulous people in the
Speaker 2: business that you're talking about, and and your advice to
Speaker 2: somebody who has they you know, they're cleaning out a basement.
Speaker 2: It's an estate that you know someone has passed. It's
Speaker 2: it's a sight that you just happen upon and you
Speaker 2: find some valuable items. Your advice is to not just
Speaker 2: look in the phone book and contact the first person
Speaker 2: you see and just assume they're legitimate, legitimate, and that
Speaker 2: they're honest.
Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, that's my opinion. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 9: you've got a bunch of different all over the place.
Speaker 9: You know, a lot of these places they've been around
Speaker 9: for a long time. They got money to advertise and
Speaker 9: do things, a lot of them to come on your show,
Speaker 9: you know, advertising their their shops and everything. And I said,
Speaker 9: you know, to me, I said, go to one of
Speaker 9: the shops if you want, and just you do it.
Speaker 9: As an opinion, I said, get online, look on eBay
Speaker 9: and do you know and see what.
Speaker 2: But you say, the more sources the better.
Speaker 9: Yeah, the more sources the better, I mean, And then
Speaker 9: then you can make a comfortable decision on what you
Speaker 9: want to do and what you want to sell. Like
Speaker 9: I said, in my business, you know, the guy that
Speaker 9: I was dealing with at Chris Guy, he decided to
Speaker 9: open a store, you know, and he's it's out off
Speaker 9: of fifty two. It's a little farther out. Most people
Speaker 9: are here within the two seventy five loop, you know,
Speaker 9: but it's not that far out. It only takes twenty
Speaker 9: minutes to get to once you get off at Kellogg Avenue. Sure,
Speaker 9: so you just go out fifty two and it's and
Speaker 9: it's really easy to find because it's it's right across
Speaker 9: from the General Grant Museum, so it's right on the
Speaker 9: other side of New Richmond. And he so he named
Speaker 9: it the General Grant's Trading Post, and I said, you know,
Speaker 9: I told him. I said it's a great name and
Speaker 9: everything else. And I said, you know, it takes a while,
Speaker 9: but you have to have people come in. And so
Speaker 9: you're sitting here and I said, take it to the guy.
Speaker 9: I said, he'll be the most in my opinion, he'll
Speaker 9: be the most honest with you. And I guarantee that,
Speaker 9: you know, he'll give you the best price on something.
Speaker 2: You know, what's the most valuable item you've ever sold.
Speaker 2: I don't think the irs is listening.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to think, I said, an individual item. I
Speaker 8: sold a ton of.
Speaker 9: Baseball cards a few years ago for a little over
Speaker 9: one hundred and twenty five thousand, but it was a
Speaker 9: ton of them. You know, you're talking T two of
Speaker 9: six cobs, you know, the thirty three gouty roofs, things
Speaker 9: like that. So I just sold the whole collection as
Speaker 9: a whole for that. And in the end, I mean,
Speaker 9: like I said, I rs wise. I said, I probably
Speaker 9: lost money. But it depends on what you're doing. I mean,
Speaker 9: you know, if you need money for something, then clear
Speaker 9: out the collectibles and just go do it. I said,
Speaker 9: don't you know, you can't really focus on the price
Speaker 9: or what it is. I mean, granted, you don't want
Speaker 9: to be throwing money away. You don't want to be
Speaker 9: buying everything and selling it for a loss time, you know,
Speaker 9: but you know, and then it made a little bit
Speaker 9: more than that. I said, I take all my stuff
Speaker 9: because most of the people around here, you know, like
Speaker 9: I said, I didn't get along with them. I only
Speaker 9: dealt with this one guy over the years, and I
Speaker 9: wasn't in this as a business to make money or
Speaker 9: do anything. I said, I'm a collector basically, you know.
Speaker 9: But now I'm getting to the point in life where
Speaker 9: I need to start sending some of this stuff out
Speaker 9: or you know, So I just I loaded. I went
Speaker 9: ahead and loaded up a van and drove out west,
Speaker 9: you know, and I dealt with the guys out there,
Speaker 9: because in this Cincinnati area, you know, in the three states,
Speaker 9: you know, Ohio, Indiana, Kentucky, I mean, it's the cheapest
Speaker 9: people in the world are around here. That's the only
Speaker 9: way to put it. It's well, it's it's a known
Speaker 9: fact in the business. I said, if you really want
Speaker 9: to make any money or do anything, you got to
Speaker 9: go to either one of the coasts or down south.
Speaker 9: And and I don't know what, I don't know why
Speaker 9: it's like that. You know, maybe it's just because it's
Speaker 9: it's the Midwest is more of a blue collar pier. Yeah,
Speaker 9: they're frugal. I said that they work hard for their living,
Speaker 9: you know, they they party hard, they drink a ton
Speaker 9: and everything else. And I said, everything just basically about
Speaker 9: getting one over and making a buck, you know.
Speaker 8: So it to me, that's just my opinion.
Speaker 9: You go out coast to the west coast, the East coast,
Speaker 9: or down south, and this is a different ballgame. I mean,
Speaker 9: people don't seem to play the games like they do
Speaker 9: around here, you know. So you'll get a better you'll
Speaker 9: get a better price on stuffing at a stained glass window.
Speaker 9: You know, did you collect here. I'll struggle to get
Speaker 9: a thousand dollars for it here in Cincinnati, you know,
Speaker 9: you take it the Massachusetts or up to New York
Speaker 9: over on the coast. And I said, then all of
Speaker 9: a sudden you sell it for five thousand, and they
Speaker 9: think they got one over on you.
Speaker 2: You know, interesting discussion. But if people want to start this,
Speaker 2: just go to auctions check out. If they want to
Speaker 2: start collecting.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you go to go to auctions. Go in
Speaker 9: somebody's shops, you know. I said, you know you want
Speaker 9: a history lesson, go to my buddy shop out there
Speaker 9: on fifty two. I said, and you know he won't
Speaker 9: just buy something just to get it from you. I
Speaker 9: mean you'll have a conversation, will educate you on it,
Speaker 9: tell you all about it, the history of something.
Speaker 2: For me, that's the big prize is learning the history
Speaker 2: of the item. Listen, our time's up. Unfortunately it just
Speaker 2: flew by like I knew it would. Next time we'll
Speaker 2: maybe have some time to take some calls from people, okay,
Speaker 2: and we can discuss more collectibles. It's the Scott Sloan Show.
Speaker 2: More ahead on seven hundred Wlwican. Just about an hour
Speaker 2: and forty minutes since the opening bell. The Dow Jones
Speaker 2: now still down down four hundred and twenty five points
Speaker 2: so far today. The slide continues. Just in case you
Speaker 2: were concerned, and many people are, and then other people
Speaker 2: like me go, well, I've seen this talk market go
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Speaker 2: percentage points the Dow at this point, but you never know,
Speaker 2: continue to monitor that. And my friend Matt Monning is
Speaker 2: still in the studio, the Collector's collector, and Matt one
Speaker 2: or two just mentioned one or two things. A guest
Speaker 2: standing by, Mike, lets will be with you in just
Speaker 2: a moment. Uh, you showed me at the bar this
Speaker 2: incredible Bearcat jersey, and explain what this is that you have.
Speaker 9: It's the earliest known game worn collegiate sports jersey. I said,
Speaker 9: it's from right around nineteen thirteen, nineteen fourteen, and I said,
Speaker 9: it's just it's just a really neat jersey to see.
Speaker 9: I mean you can find the pictures. It's id to
Speaker 9: the guy and it's the earliest known one. Yeah, so Heritage,
Speaker 9: you know sold a real early one of the Jayhawks.
Speaker 9: It was never worn, you know, for like thirty eight
Speaker 9: thousand dollars or something.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if the guy wants to sell it now he
Speaker 9: wants like almost fifty grand for it, Well this is
Speaker 9: this is earlier than that.
Speaker 8: But it's game used, you know worn.
Speaker 2: So so what what do you think that would go
Speaker 2: for prospectively in a market.
Speaker 9: Well, you'd think it to go for about thirty eight thousand,
Speaker 9: you know, somewhere around there. Yeah, between thirty or forty
Speaker 9: thousand if he gave it to an auction. But like
Speaker 9: I said, it's always it's always a you know, roll
Speaker 9: of the dice when you're giving him something.
Speaker 2: You got, you got, you got your die hard beer
Speaker 2: cat fans a roight yeah, and some of them will
Speaker 2: even be listening to the game. By the way, I'd.
Speaker 9: Rather give it to the university somehow, you know, and
Speaker 9: we're going to auction with it, I said, you know,
Speaker 9: I said, I'll give it to them a lot cheaper
Speaker 9: than they have to do it in an auction.
Speaker 2: Yep. You see Oklahoma State in the Big twelve tournament
Speaker 2: right here on the Big one. Uh tip time around
Speaker 2: twelve thirty, Matt, thanks again, you want to do give
Speaker 2: a shout out to a friend of yours.
Speaker 9: It was just yeah, my brother, you know, my brother
Speaker 9: and his friend. His name's Tommy Nagel. You know, he's
Speaker 9: he's a guy that really got me started in his
Speaker 9: business and he still does it, you know, on the side,
Speaker 9: you know, wheeling and dealing different things. You know, he's
Speaker 9: just a diehard Pete Rose fan. I mean it really,
Speaker 9: I mean the other guy was a.
Speaker 2: Big bunch of a bunch of those in this time.
Speaker 9: This guy, he's got pictures of him when he was
Speaker 9: a teenager with Pete Rose, and he it goes all
Speaker 9: the way up to just within months of him dying,
Speaker 9: and you're getting pictures with him.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's amazing what he's got.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, thanks a lot for visiting again. It was
Speaker 2: good to see and we'll we'll see you around the
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Speaker 2: He is a law enforcement veteran and he has spent
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Speaker 2: home after their tour. Michael Letz, it's great to talk
Speaker 2: to you again. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 10: I'm doing great. How are you do it.
Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent, excellent. Off the top of today's discussion, I
Speaker 2: wanted to mention the couple of incidents where again law
Speaker 2: enforcement officers have been targeted by the bad guys, and
Speaker 2: in many cases they're being drawn out. We just found
Speaker 2: out here in Cincinnati, according to a nine to one
Speaker 2: one call that there was a there was a person
Speaker 2: who was threatening law enforcement and other people with a
Speaker 2: nine in Columbia Township and two officers responded to this,
Speaker 2: but the guy who called it in was the guy
Speaker 2: with the knife. He was luring the cops out. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a cop assisted suicide that
Speaker 2: the guy had in mind or he was trying to
Speaker 2: ambush these officers, but we're seeing that occur more and more,
Speaker 2: and as the border crackdown continues, the cartel members have
Speaker 2: been given their marching orders to attack not only ice officers,
Speaker 2: but law enforcement officers all over the country. And this
Speaker 2: is where a group like INVESTUSA comes in, as far
Speaker 2: as offering protective vests that go far beyond what we
Speaker 2: know as kevlar or bulletproof vests. And I guess you
Speaker 2: could speak to any of that, but it's more important
Speaker 2: than ever to make sure our cops on the street
Speaker 2: have the equipment that they need to help keep them safe.
Speaker 10: Oh, you're exactly right, Gary, it's of course Tom, you know,
Speaker 10: oh my not good. For instance, Tom and I were
Speaker 10: discussing that it's a shame that those that we were
Speaker 10: attempting to apprehend to protect America, to keep her safe,
Speaker 10: talking about the cartels, the child sex traffickers for that matter,
Speaker 10: the terrorists, and just the murderers there, I mean, hardened
Speaker 10: criminals have been released into this country that we're brought
Speaker 10: over here, welcomed by the Biden administration to put out
Speaker 10: on our streets. You know, we're in the process of
Speaker 10: picking those up now that as their first and foremost objective.
Speaker 10: But I could promise you they're not sitting by the
Speaker 10: curb with a little lunch, paill wait for somebody to
Speaker 10: take them home. They're better armed, they're better protected, and
Speaker 10: it should never be that way in this country. And
Speaker 10: that's why this is more critical than ever. What you've
Speaker 10: mentioned before. What the listeners he do understand is we
Speaker 10: started investing in nineteen eighty three, excuse me, and we've
Speaker 10: been doing this for over thirty some odd years. But
Speaker 10: back in those days, you have what we call concealable vests.
Speaker 10: They were made of kevlar. You wear them under your shirts.
Speaker 10: You see them, the cops on them, dec their uniform
Speaker 10: all the time. Concealable vests were only made to stop sidearms.
Speaker 1: That's all you need it.
Speaker 10: Back then, nobody was proud to be a criminal, so
Speaker 10: they took a gun they could put underneath their shirts
Speaker 10: and nobody would see it, and they committed their atrocities.
Speaker 10: Times have changed. We're dealing with drug cartails now and others.
Speaker 10: They're very proud of their organization and what they do,
Speaker 10: so they bring in AK forty seven's long range rifles
Speaker 10: literally will cut right through concealable vests if you weren't
Speaker 10: wearing one. The only way to stop that round is
Speaker 10: with what we created new technology called active shooter vests.
Speaker 10: They have titanium plates in them, will stop anything. But
Speaker 10: here's the tragedy. Less than ten percent of cops across
Speaker 10: the country have them. Ninety percent are unprotected, and that's
Speaker 10: a crime.
Speaker 1: Shame.
Speaker 10: And we're going into this particular type of a scenario
Speaker 10: determined to clean up the streets of America, and we're
Speaker 10: under projecket and outgunned.
Speaker 2: There's a fourteen year old in New Jersey charged after
Speaker 2: an officer was killed another critically hurt in a shootout there,
Speaker 2: fourteen years old. This isn't a drug cartel, more than likely,
Speaker 2: but it is a pattern of crime and one of
Speaker 2: the reasons that President Trump and other elected officials are
Speaker 2: turning the corner and trying to get tough on crime
Speaker 2: and addressing it when we've had a revolving door system
Speaker 2: of justice thanks to prosecutors who were purposely soft on crime,
Speaker 2: the George Soros elected district attorneys and the like in
Speaker 2: different places, like in New York City and cities all
Speaker 2: over the country, major metro metropolitan areas, and then you
Speaker 2: have these judges that are allowing this crime to really
Speaker 2: prosper and to grow and to become out of control
Speaker 2: in major cities. I think, I think Americans finally are
Speaker 2: taking a long, hard look at law and order again,
Speaker 2: and it's way past time for that.
Speaker 10: Your thoughts, No, you're exactly right. Here's what we the
Speaker 10: Trump administration right now is spacing. They're not just fighting
Speaker 10: the criminals, they're fighting our own people. Are judges are
Speaker 10: you know, the corruption that we have. It is amazing
Speaker 10: that we can have federal judges that think that they
Speaker 10: can dictate executive policy. And they're doing that not just
Speaker 10: against the Trump administration, as you mentioned, they're doing to
Speaker 10: our judicial system. They have determined that the criminals are
Speaker 10: more important than the American citizens. That's got to go.
Speaker 10: I mean, that doesn't even make common sense. One thing
Speaker 10: I'm grateful for for the Trumpet administration. Cam Body So
Speaker 10: doing a great job as aternity General is now determined
Speaker 10: to refer these criminal matters or indictments against these judges
Speaker 10: and ask them to be impeached. We've got to get
Speaker 10: rid of this mindset that if we don't get our way,
Speaker 10: we're going to legislate from the bench. That's never the
Speaker 10: way the Constitution was formulated. If you don't like it,
Speaker 10: then get out something else.
Speaker 2: The judicial is an interpretive not a legislative branch, and
Speaker 2: they're there to determine whether the laws that are past
Speaker 2: are constitutional. And uh, we have a lot of those
Speaker 2: judges who think that they're legislators or they're the executive
Speaker 2: and that they are the sole voice of reason on
Speaker 2: any given legal topic, and they simply are not. And
Speaker 2: and that's why we have an appellate system, and that's
Speaker 2: why we have a Supreme Court. But even then sometimes
Speaker 2: there is a legislation from the bench that is totally
Speaker 2: unconstitutional and it's something that must be watched constantly in
Speaker 2: my opinion. What else would you like to talk about?
Speaker 2: If anything well told?
Speaker 10: There's plenty of talk of trust me here, But you know,
Speaker 10: let's talk about where we're at as a country from
Speaker 10: a law and order standpoint.
Speaker 4: Okay, of course, four years.
Speaker 10: Ago, you know, we had open borders, and this is
Speaker 10: what I want the American people to understand we're up
Speaker 10: against now. When we had open borders, the cartels still
Speaker 10: do control the Rio grand And what do we mean
Speaker 10: by that. That means on the Mexican side, you don't
Speaker 10: set up foot in that river without the cartels blessing.
Speaker 10: How do you get their blessing? Very simple, It's called
Speaker 10: twenty thousand dollars apiece. They don't care if you have
Speaker 10: it or not. If you don't have it, you can
Speaker 10: work it off by being one of the drug runners,
Speaker 10: of being the prostitution organizations. They got plenty of ways
Speaker 10: you can work it off. But now you can said it.
Speaker 10: When we had ade administration. The Trump administration came in,
Speaker 10: we shut all that down. We roughly had thirty eight
Speaker 10: people that were able to get aways last week on
Speaker 10: a given day, from fifteen thousand down to thirty eight.
Speaker 4: You've the math.
Speaker 10: Do you realize how much the cartels are losing. They're
Speaker 10: not gonna sit by and allow that kind of revenue
Speaker 10: to be taken from them. So they have issue with
Speaker 10: the intercepted intel reports. They've issued all their lieutenants to
Speaker 10: use armed drones. Where did they get the armed drones from? Well,
Speaker 10: you remember we were sitting to military, high grade military
Speaker 10: equip with the Ukraine. Yeah, find out that sixty five
Speaker 10: percent of it never got there. Ukraine put it on
Speaker 10: the black market. Guess who has the most money to
Speaker 10: buy this kind of stuff. Cartel's cartels exactly in the
Speaker 10: terrace workanduation. So they've got it. It's sitting on our
Speaker 10: border right now. So they're going to use armed drones
Speaker 10: to fly across the river to attack border patrol and
Speaker 10: our military units to try to invade and last holes
Speaker 10: so that they can get migrants across eveegally immigrants across.
Speaker 10: That's going to go.
Speaker 3: We're well for them, but.
Speaker 10: The other thing they're attempting to do is they send
Speaker 10: out word that anybody visiting Mexico, they know where the
Speaker 10: tourist spots are at. They're going to start lining the
Speaker 10: roads to get there with IEDs, try to kill as
Speaker 10: many Americans as possible. That already started last week. We
Speaker 10: lost one American tourist with an ID. We lost nine
Speaker 10: college students who were butchered by the cartail and we're
Speaker 10: not going to toleratetel. So we've drawn the line in
Speaker 10: this sand. We've made it very clear that the cartails
Speaker 10: are now terrorist organizations. What does that mean to the
Speaker 10: American public? We declare you the terrorist organization. Suddenly you're
Speaker 10: in a different category. We can use military interventions. That
Speaker 10: means special forces, and that means we can track you
Speaker 10: anywhere in the world. You don't have to be in
Speaker 10: the US anymore. We can go after wherever you're at.
Speaker 10: So expectancy is a very heated, heating up events coming
Speaker 10: up here shortly, because payback is hell and we're going
Speaker 10: to make sure that we do not simply disrupt the
Speaker 10: cartails is our goal and responsibility now to the women.
Speaker 2: In Well, Now we won't be facing necessarily the Mexican government.
Speaker 2: But you're talking about another American mecha war, which they
Speaker 2: haven't fared well in over the course of history. And
Speaker 2: with our military now on the border given the green
Speaker 2: light permission to fire back if they're fired upon, it
Speaker 2: looks like there's going to be something very much resembling
Speaker 2: a war on our southern border with the cartels, not
Speaker 2: with the Mexican government. But if the cartels think that
Speaker 2: they've got the firepower to do it, you're right. They're
Speaker 2: just protecting their financial interest in their way of life,
Speaker 2: and they will stop at nothing. Well, they're going to
Speaker 2: meet some pretty strong resistance from the US military if
Speaker 2: push comes to.
Speaker 10: Show, and interested in The Mexican Congress just last week
Speaker 10: past the Seat of the Night passed the resolution welcoming
Speaker 10: any special forces into the country that we're calling for
Speaker 10: the purpose of eradicating the cartails, so they know we're
Speaker 10: coming and we're not just going to wait you get
Speaker 10: to ours. That's not how war were ups. We eliminate
Speaker 10: the threat wherever it's at. They've drawn the line, unlike
Speaker 10: the previous administration, where you could kept drawing lines and
Speaker 10: step over when nothing happens. Yeah, and as administration would
Speaker 10: you step over the line buckle up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: They called it the Biden don't policy. It didn't work
Speaker 2: with Iran, it didn't work with the cartels, it hasn't
Speaker 2: worked anywhere. But some real, real firepower and our military.
Speaker 2: The reason we have a military is number one reason
Speaker 2: to defend our borders, to defend the United States of America,
Speaker 2: not to be flown halfway around the world and defend
Speaker 2: somebody else's border. I mean, we can help people when
Speaker 2: when we're able to, but the primary job of the
Speaker 2: US military is to do exactly what is being done
Speaker 2: now on our on our borders. And it's way past time. Michael.
Speaker 2: Lets thank you very much for your time. Invest USA.
Speaker 2: Tell me again real quickly about your organization, how people
Speaker 2: and get in touch and participate.
Speaker 10: If include our website I NVSTUSA dot orgto charity dot org,
Speaker 10: they can make sure our officers have the necessary protection
Speaker 10: to punch these cartails head on and win. And the
Speaker 10: other thing they can keep informed of everything else is
Speaker 10: going We keep the running stories on everything that's happening
Speaker 10: across the country how it affects law enforce. So please
Speaker 10: do one thing today. Tell a first responder thank you
Speaker 10: for your service and if you can help make sure
Speaker 10: they have the equipment, a couple of safety to their
Speaker 10: kids and their families as well.
Speaker 2: My brother, I have a wonderful rest of the day.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We have Jim orin Ac back
Speaker 2: for a second bite. We'll see what's chomping at his
Speaker 2: bit in just a moment after news on seven hundred WLW,
Speaker 2: while the House is pondering and waiting on taking the
Speaker 2: vote on the cr to keep the government funded, figured
Speaker 2: this would be a great time to talk to my
Speaker 2: friend Jim Ranesi again, former congressman from Ohio, senatorial and
Speaker 2: gubernatorial candidate, businessman, entrepreneur and once again our guest on
Speaker 2: the Scott's Loan Show, Gary Jeffin for Sloani. Well, Jim,
Speaker 2: they are talking to talk in Washington. The question is
Speaker 2: will they walk the walk and avert the government shut
Speaker 2: down with the Democrats. This is unusual, Jim, because the
Speaker 2: Democrats always are the parties said, I can't believe the
Speaker 2: Republicans would shut the government down, and now the Democrats
Speaker 2: are vowing to do it. Isn't it crazy? How the
Speaker 2: shoes on the other foot.
Speaker 11: Well, it is interesting, but again the Democrats are going
Speaker 11: to say the Republican have a majority in the House
Speaker 11: and the majority in the Senate, and they need to
Speaker 11: do their job. That'll be their talking point. You know,
Speaker 11: politics is all about talking points, who has the better ones,
Speaker 11: And in the end, it's just this American people that
Speaker 11: will lose, which is sad because the government shutdown does
Speaker 11: not help our economy. It doesn't really save any money.
Speaker 11: There are a lot of people who believe when you
Speaker 11: shut it down, it's just the government quit spending money.
Speaker 11: Now the government still has to pay money, it just
Speaker 11: doesn't spend it till it reopens again. So hopefully they'll
Speaker 11: come to some conclusion. But I will tell you, and
Speaker 11: I mentioned this before. Remember they're voting on a bill
Speaker 11: to spend money that does not include all the waste
Speaker 11: that the Doze the Doze cuts found And that's the
Speaker 11: interesting aspect, which is one of the reasons why Massey
Speaker 11: Connorsson Massey's not voting for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he said that the only way he'd vote
Speaker 2: for it is if he had a lobotomy. This morning,
Speaker 2: President Trump is promising to primary or get Republicans to
Speaker 2: primary Thomas Massey. It's a very solid safe district. I
Speaker 2: know this because I live in the fourth district in
Speaker 2: Kentucky and will not keep me voting from for Thomas
Speaker 2: Massey should he run for reelection in twenty six. And
Speaker 2: that's not a guarantee either. The thing about Thomas Massey
Speaker 2: is that if he has any higher aspirations, he has
Speaker 2: pretty much run his course. According to what he said
Speaker 2: when he began and ran the first time, he wasn't
Speaker 2: going to be a lifetime politician in the House of
Speaker 2: Representatives seat. He is as probably as down to earth
Speaker 2: as anybody gets in that position, in that organization, in
Speaker 2: that branch of Congress, just because I've met him and
Speaker 2: I know him. He's a farmer. He loves being a farmer.
Speaker 2: You know, he lost his wife last year and that
Speaker 2: was kind of a bump in the road and did
Speaker 2: not know if he would continue then. But you know,
Speaker 2: got a guminatorial race in Kentucky. Also, a Senate seat
Speaker 2: will be open in twenty six, and I think that
Speaker 2: quite possibly, I don't know, but I think that quite
Speaker 2: possibly Thomas Massey will consider a run for either one
Speaker 2: of those offices. Any thoughts on that, Since you've run
Speaker 2: for Senate and governor, what are the challenges that Thomas
Speaker 2: Massey would have in a state where he continually is
Speaker 2: re elected to the House in his district.
Speaker 11: Well, first off, Thomas Massey is a good man. He
Speaker 11: was a friend of mine. He came into the House
Speaker 11: of Representatives when I did. He's a constitutional conservative. Yep,
Speaker 11: somebody like me who will stick to his guns, and
Speaker 11: quite frankly, I stuck to my guns on CRS many
Speaker 11: a time with President Trump. I never voted for a
Speaker 11: CR except one time. President Trump did call me and
Speaker 11: asked me to vote for a fourteen day CR. I'll
Speaker 11: never forget. I was in the back of the house.
Speaker 11: They said, the President wants to talk to you. I said, fine,
Speaker 11: I went back. I said, mister President, I don't vote
Speaker 11: for CRS. He said, would you please do this? I said,
Speaker 11: I'll do it. I said, but don't come back to
Speaker 11: me in fourteen days, when you know. Fourteen days later
Speaker 11: he came back to me and I said, no. You know,
Speaker 11: a CR is one of the reasons we have our
Speaker 11: problems in Congress. We don't pass by just we don't
Speaker 11: pass appropriation bills. We just continue to pass CRS. I
Speaker 11: applaud those that don't vote for crs. I didn't vote
Speaker 11: for CRS. I was called It was funny the Republicans
Speaker 11: and some of the Democrats would say to me, well,
Speaker 11: you're a vote no hope yes, And I said, well,
Speaker 11: you can call me whatever you want, vote no hope yes.
Speaker 11: That we don't shut the government down. That was always
Speaker 11: the key. But look, I think at this point in time,
Speaker 11: after forty some fifty some crs in the last ten years,
Speaker 11: it's probably about time. And I'd love to see President
Speaker 11: Trump veto this spending bill and tell the House and
Speaker 11: Senate don't leave until you send me a bill that
Speaker 11: has the cuts that are necessary that we found. I
Speaker 11: know he's not going to do that because he does
Speaker 11: want to keep the government open. But at some point
Speaker 11: in time, we got to take a stand on this spending.
Speaker 11: And even though dose is finding everything, we're not cutting it.
Speaker 11: You know, we found toilets, three hundred dollar toilets and
Speaker 11: one hundred and fifty dollars hammers. We found all this
Speaker 11: stuff over the last twenty years. But until somebody takes
Speaker 11: the stand we're not going to cut this wasteful spending.
Speaker 2: Well, then this cr it doesn't It doesn't cut spending.
Speaker 2: It just kind of The way it's portrayed is it
Speaker 2: freezes spending at the current levels. But that's not what
Speaker 2: we need. We need cuts, real cuts. And then how
Speaker 2: long has it been since they actually passed a real budget, Jim.
Speaker 11: It's been twenty five plus years.
Speaker 8: That's the problem.
Speaker 11: You know, we tried to pass budgets when I was
Speaker 11: in Congress. I was on the budget committee. When we
Speaker 11: passed the budget and sent it over to the House
Speaker 11: or center over the Senate, the Senate never passed it.
Speaker 11: They did our job. It's one of the frustrating things
Speaker 11: that I found in Congress. One year, we passed three
Speaker 11: hundred and sixty some bills in the House, sent him
Speaker 11: over the Senate, and the Senate just didn't pass it.
Speaker 11: The House has to pass the Senate. The House and
Speaker 11: Senate have to pass a budget, and the Senate has
Speaker 11: refused to pass budget for years. The House has not
Speaker 11: done their job either. I'm not going to give them credit.
Speaker 11: We have failed the pass budgets as well, but when
Speaker 11: we did pass them, the Senate didn't take them up
Speaker 11: and pass them either.
Speaker 2: Well, these crs that you speak of that continue to
Speaker 2: get past, you know, kicking the can down the road again.
Speaker 2: And not cutting spending. They have led to John Bainer
Speaker 2: being ousted a speaker. It led to Kevin McCarthy. Does
Speaker 2: do you think this particular fight spells kind of the
Speaker 2: beginning of the in for Mike as Speaker of the House.
Speaker 11: Well, look, it's a very difficult position to be Speaker
Speaker 11: of the House. But you're exactly right. One of the
Speaker 11: thing that has really been interesting for me to watch
Speaker 11: is that you're right. We threw Bayner out. Not we,
Speaker 11: but Congress threw Bayner out because he kept doing this.
Speaker 11: They threw you McCarthy out, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 11: it's okay to do it. I don't get this. I
Speaker 11: mean it's either okay to do it or it's not
Speaker 11: okay to do it. It's very frustrating. I feel sorry
Speaker 11: for some of the solid Republicans down there that have
Speaker 11: to be shaking their heads saying what is going on
Speaker 11: because at this stage of the game, most people don't
Speaker 11: even know what's right anymore. We're now okay passing a
Speaker 11: cr when we threw speakers out for not passing crs'.
Speaker 11: It's just different times different and trust.
Speaker 2: Writing, there's a great deal of hypocrisy on both sides.
Speaker 2: There's plenty of hypocrisy to go around when it comes
Speaker 2: to the two parties in Congress, and we're seeing it
Speaker 2: on full display. As you just mentioned. On another tack,
Speaker 2: what should be done with Ukraine? In your opinion, if
Speaker 2: if you were the king of the world, Jim Ornacy,
Speaker 2: what would you do with the Ukraine situation? Do they
Speaker 2: continue to get a blank check from US and can't
Speaker 2: explain where the money's going in their fighting just because
Speaker 2: Putin's a bad guy and he invaded their country? Do
Speaker 2: we defend Ukraine for as long as it takes and
Speaker 2: is there any chance at all that they even prevail
Speaker 2: in this if they continue this nonsense in the the
Speaker 2: and the killing continues.
Speaker 11: So look at it from a different angle. Number one,
Speaker 11: we should never put boots on the ground there, No,
Speaker 11: And number two, we should never get in a situation
Speaker 11: where we have to put boots on the ground in
Speaker 11: Europe ever again to defend countries over there. But we
Speaker 11: should provide them the military aid and equipment they need.
Speaker 11: Remember when we are providing them military equipment, it's being
Speaker 11: manufactured by Amerging companies. So it actually is there's a
Speaker 11: positive side to this that a lot of people don't
Speaker 11: look at But at the same time, here's what a
Speaker 11: lot of people don't understand about Ukraine. And we input
Speaker 11: lots of things from Ukraine that we can't get elsewhere.
Speaker 11: One of those things is pig iron. Without pig iron,
Speaker 11: we can't build and manufacture still. Now we can get
Speaker 11: at other places, but Ukraine is one of our number
Speaker 11: one places for pig iron. And if we lose that,
Speaker 11: we lose the ability to make still in our country,
Speaker 11: or we lose at least one of the products needed
Speaker 11: to make still in our country. Wheat's another thing. So
Speaker 11: I look at it from a business perspective. What is
Speaker 11: the return on investment? And I think that's the way
Speaker 11: we should look at everything in government. If we are
Speaker 11: funding them X amount of dollars, but the return is why,
Speaker 11: and it's beneficial to the United States, we should continue
Speaker 11: to do it with one additional caveat, and that is
Speaker 11: if we can keep our men and women and our
Speaker 11: soldiers off the boots off the ground in Ukraine and Europe,
Speaker 11: there's even an added bonus. So I've always been very
Speaker 11: supportive of making sure that we don't ever have to
Speaker 11: go to war again. Our children and grandchildren. So's the
Speaker 11: way we should look at them.
Speaker 2: So you continue to give them a blank check and
Speaker 2: whatever they need. You just here's another fifty billion, here's
Speaker 2: another one hundred billion. Zelenski couldn't even tell you where
Speaker 2: the money all win.
Speaker 4: Jim, Well, you.
Speaker 11: Know that's what one. So there's two sides of the story.
Speaker 6: Some people say that.
Speaker 11: Other people say that the money is actually being spent on.
Speaker 11: You know, we're giving them We're not giving them money,
Speaker 11: giving them arms, We're giving them ammunition. We're giving them
Speaker 11: things that are going to that country to be used
Speaker 11: to defend themselves. That's the real key. If it is cash,
Speaker 11: which I don't believe it is, but if it is cash,
Speaker 11: we should know what it's being spent on. But I'm
Speaker 11: of the I'm of the belief that it's actually weaponry, arms,
Speaker 11: it's those type of things, and even you know, the
Speaker 11: military intelligence that they need. I mean, I'm absolutely shocked
Speaker 11: that President Trump has pulled the intelligence away from them
Speaker 11: now too, because that's just a death sentence to them.
Speaker 11: And you know, in the end, it's given putting the
Speaker 11: opportunity to say I'm just going to move forward, which
Speaker 11: he is, and now he's bombs, bombing innocent children and
Speaker 11: families as well, which is again we should not get
Speaker 11: involved in those wars.
Speaker 1: But should we.
Speaker 8: Help that's the real question? Sure for Americans.
Speaker 2: Well, it was it was disclosed that part of the
Speaker 2: ask of Zelenski and Ukraine were billions of dollars and
Speaker 2: actual cash to fund their government pension fund because it
Speaker 2: had been exhausted by the war effort. So that's that's
Speaker 2: real dollars, isn't it.
Speaker 11: Yeah, And that we should not do. But I do
Speaker 11: think at the same time we should. We should direct
Speaker 11: help to them for their military needs, not the financial
Speaker 11: appension needs.
Speaker 2: All Right, One more quick thing on a on a
Speaker 2: tariff sense, on a business sense, since you're a business
Speaker 2: guy and you look at things that way. Ontario saying
Speaker 2: that they're going to put tariffs on electricity or they're
Speaker 2: going to stop giving us electricity and reciprocal tariffs on
Speaker 2: the other side from the Trump administration, where does this
Speaker 2: all go? Is it a negotiating ploy, is it a
Speaker 2: quagmire that will cause a recession and get us into trouble.
Speaker 2: It's so early to tell, uh, And that's why it's
Speaker 2: people are so excited about the fast moving Trump administration.
Speaker 2: They finally got their full cabinet together, which is in
Speaker 2: pretty good record time, considering he only took the oath
Speaker 2: of office on January twentieth. But what's your take on
Speaker 2: the latest tariff moves and how it's affecting the markets.
Speaker 11: So I've said all along the tarr should be used
Speaker 11: for negotiations, they should never be used for economics. But
Speaker 11: the problem is we have now escalated this to a war.
Speaker 11: We are in a tariff war, which is a real problem.
Speaker 11: But I want to remind your listeners of one thing
Speaker 11: that's extremely important. During President Trump's first term, we renegotiated
Speaker 11: all the trade I heard somebody say, well, the reason
Speaker 11: we have all these problems is NAFTA. NAFTA doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 11: President Trump negotiated all new trade agreements with Mexico and Canada.
Speaker 11: They were signed, we were the Congress approved them. That
Speaker 11: was all done in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, So
Speaker 11: not that many years ago we approved all these trade agreements.
Speaker 11: I still remember the day President Trump's saying, these are
Speaker 11: great trade agreements for the United States with Canada and Mexico.
Speaker 11: Now roll forward four years, five years, and we're at
Speaker 11: a trade war again with Canada and Mexico. This is
Speaker 11: what I don't understand, and it doesn't help the American
Speaker 11: businessman or woman when we have uncertainty and unpredictability. I mean,
Speaker 11: one of the reasons why the market soared under the
Speaker 11: first of Trump administration is because he was able to
Speaker 11: maintain certainty and predictability. And when we got into these
Speaker 11: trade problems with these countries, we signed new trade agreements,
Speaker 11: so everybody was happy. The markets continued to roar, business
Speaker 11: people were happy. Now all of a sudden, President Trump
Speaker 11: is throwing out these trade agreements that he signed and
Speaker 11: he proposed back in eighteen and nineteen, and we're at
Speaker 11: basically a war, which cannot be good for the American people.
Speaker 11: I hope Americans understand. They hear these tariffs and they think, oh,
Speaker 11: the government's going.
Speaker 1: To pay those.
Speaker 11: The government doesn't pay those, you and I pay those.
Speaker 11: You and I end up paying those, and it will
Speaker 11: increase the cost of cars and food and electricity. And
Speaker 11: we really don't need to get into a trade war
Speaker 11: at this time where our economy is still we're still
Speaker 11: coming out of a high recession period. This is just
Speaker 11: bad timing. You get into a trade war.
Speaker 2: Well, ultimately it's the long the long plan, I guess,
Speaker 2: And that's the other side of the coin. The philosophy
Speaker 2: is this eventually will convince people to you know, make
Speaker 2: stuff in America again, But that takes a long time.
Speaker 2: That's building infrastructure, and you know it'll take two or
Speaker 2: three years at the early for these jobs to come back, right.
Speaker 11: Well, it'll even take more than that. I remember, we
Speaker 11: didn't get into this mess in the last three or
Speaker 11: four years. We got in this mess in the last
Speaker 11: twenty five years. So take a look at the automobile industry.
Speaker 11: We are now a North American manufacturing industry of automobiles.
Speaker 11: We share products with Mexico and Canada. We build cars
Speaker 11: by moving chassis's in tires to Mexico, Canada, they move
Speaker 11: all through North America.
Speaker 8: That was a plan of all.
Speaker 11: The manufacturing companies twenty five years ago. Now, all of
Speaker 11: a sudden, it would be great to bring them all back,
Speaker 11: but that's not going to happen in three days, three months,
Speaker 11: three weeks, not even three years. I mean, that is
Speaker 11: probably a ten year process to bring manufacturing back, if not,
Speaker 11: you know, and this idea that we can do it
Speaker 11: this quickly is not a problem. Now I've said all
Speaker 11: it would be great if we change the curve so
Speaker 11: that we influence manufacturers to come back.
Speaker 8: We got them back in the.
Speaker 11: Next five to ten years, and we got that happening.
Speaker 11: It's not going to happen today, tomorrow or next week,
Speaker 11: and the American people will have to pay for this
Speaker 11: in the short term.
Speaker 2: All right, Jim or Nacy, thank you for a voluminous
Speaker 2: amount of time, and we appreciate that. Have a great day,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you very much. That's it. Bearcat basketball,
Speaker 2: the Big twelve tournament just ahead on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Have a fantastic day, won't you.