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let's dive in to today's episode. I'd like to welcome
back to the show returning champion. Cindya said, Hey, I'm good.
Speaker 2: How are you, Alex, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming back on the show.
Last time we spoke, uh, you know, the audience really
loved having you and Joseph get.
Speaker 2: It your audience, Yeah, well, I mean last time you run.
Speaker 1: A couple things happened in your life after the episode
airin right, Yeah, yeah, blew up and went to look
look everything.
Speaker 2: It really blew up. And I'll tell you the most
exciting part for me was reading the comments and how
your audience. You know, we are teachers of teachers with
all this new stuff the way we teach it, and
in the beginning, people weren't getting it. You know, they
just weren't getting it, couldn't grasp it. But your audience
gets it. They're doing it, you know, I mean, I
see these people. I'm so glad that she said that
because that's how I channel too, or that's what I
went through too, or you know, didn't want to say anything,
you know, So.
Speaker 1: Yay, my audience is pretty amazing. Yeah, I see, my
audience is pretty amazing. And I keep hearing it again
and again for my guests about when they interact my
audience like it's it's not like any other audience they've
ever interacted with before. It makes me happy. It merely
makes me happy that way. So so I want I
wanted to bring you back on the show because it's
been a while since last time you were on the show,
so there's a few things have changed in the world.
Speaker 2: Six last time, since last time we spoke.
Speaker 1: So first I wanted it because there's a lot of
you know, there's a lot of fear in the world
as a general statement, but there seems to be a
ramping up of fear around what's going to happen? Where
are we going? What do you see from your from
Joseph said, and behold up, before we continue, we have
to tell everybody because you and I both know what
you do. Can you explain to people who have never
might not have seen the first episode what you do?
And when we speak of Joseph. Who Joseph is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joseph is a collective consciousness of teachers, and they
are the evolved conscious vibration of the Seth and Abraham collectives. So,
you know, as a consciousness. As more focus on the
message in this case of Seth and then Abraham, you
can see how the audiences have just grown exponentially. They're
just you know, so the obviously the consciousness is expanding
within the human collective awareness. And as that happens, you know,
are wanting more comes in and so this is part
of our evolution as the human aspect. So they are
teaching from this consciousness and we focus on the journey
to the New Earth and the you know, we kind
of talk about a little bit about our journey through
the third dimension and how we're kind of walking out
of it. You know, we say we're choosing our way
out of it as we move into the next dimension
of experience. So our whole shtick is that you know,
we are all about and we we we example was
when they say it say it we example, the blending
of the vibration of the soul and the physical aspect.
So it's not it's it's a channeling in that when
I am speaking to you, or to clients or anybody
they are, I am focused solely on the soul vibration
of me, which makes them dominant them, makes the collective
me dominant, my soul in all its aspects of which
I am one. So this is our next step in
human evolution, where we are actually up to this point,
the human ever since we dove into the third dimension
the first time we ever got here in order to
expand the universe, you know, span the soul by focusing
on love. We come in. We don't know who we are,
We have no idea, which is the point, so we
can discover more of who we are as we journey
through the third dimension. We call it that everybody. We
got to label everything. So we dive in and through
lifetime after lifetime, we leave, we come back, we leave it,
come back, and every time we come back we have
expanded this aspect, the physical aspect of the soul more
so so here we are now at fifty to fifty dominant.
In the contrast, obviously, you can look outside and see,
which is why every reason in such fear. Now you know,
the more you look at it, the more it expands
in your awareness and you participate, and then you live
a life of fear. We are moving out of that,
and this must be a conscious choosing. Up to this point,
we didn't understand the choosing of experiences by looking at
everything from a vibrational perspective, you know, universal loss stuff,
universal truth we call it. So now, up to this
point we have been dominantly creating not only our unique
individual physical experience from the contrasts. Why relationships, don't you know?
It's a failing. That's how all relationships are. We have
all these sayings, you know, it's how all relationships are.
They're just hard. This is hard, this is hard, and
it's just not that way. But that's what our dominant
creative forces. So then we come in and we say, well,
in order to move out of the contrast, you must
shift your perspective, which means shifting your perspective to the
perspective of the next consciousness, realm of consciousness that we're
moving into, which has a different experience, offers a different experience.
And when you become dominant, when you consciously choose to
shift your dominant creative force from the contrast to that
of your soul, then you're at fifty one percent, and
then you're attracting law of attraction. You're attracting from that vibration,
which is love and peace and joy. And the more
you focus on that, you gain momentum, and that becomes
your dominant creative force and you're creating from. So all
that to say that Joseph is the soul of me,
and when I am focused on them, I'm in alignment.
And so it is the collective that's speaking. The soul
is speaking.
Speaker 1: So and when you say that you're connecting to Joseph
and this collective, you are channeling. Just so everyone's clear,
I want to make sure, well that's what.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it's. Yeah, we'll have a new name
for that though, because it's got a lot of stigma,
you know, because channeling, if it's not if it doesn't
look the same way on everybody, you know, they go, well,
I must not be doing it. And you see people
coming out of the ward work saying that's how I
do it too. I hear things too. I thought I
was weird. You're not. Yes, everybody's doing it.
Speaker 1: So when you're doing your process of talking to or
communicating with this collective, you're not a trans channel. You
are actually just asking the question and just coming in
on you twenty four seven.
Speaker 2: Esscially, well, yes, they four or five months ago they
started saying, we want to be more involved in your
day to day focus when you're living in your third
dimensional life. This is how we get to the fourth dimension,
by the way, which is why they're teaching me. We
want to be involved, you know, focus on us when
you have to make a decision, you know, get an
alignment and make a decision. That way you path you
create these pathways to the experiences that we have here.
It's how you create your reality. You know, you're creating
experiences all the time, and the experiences come from the
foundational vibration that you're focused on, that you're dominant in
at the time. So when you're dominantly creating from your
soul vibration, you can only experience what that vibration offers,
which is love and peace and joy and excitement and
passion and all that good stuff. It cannot manifest and
out of alignment experience can't create fear from love, nor
can you create love from fear. Two different vibrations. No agreement.
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and now back to the show. You know, when you
say vibration or another word frequency, if i'm if then
being the same thing. That's why low vibration or low
frequency cannot cannot coexist with a high frequency. They just don't.
It's it's physics. They literally won't be able to deal
with it. I always jokes like, that's why you will
see a lot of yogi's getting meltd. I love that.
Speaker 2: I love when it's absolutely right, no vibrational agreement. You
cannot experience a vibration that you're not a match to exactly.
Speaker 1: And that's their goal is to raise your frequency as
much as you possibly can, to reach the frequency of
the ascended masters, to go to a to a higher
place where you're almost beyond at such a high level
that some of these yogis and some of these masters,
when you walked in the room, if you walked within
one hundred feet of them, you were completely intoxicated by
their vibration or their frequency. Yes, it's it's pretty it's
a pretty magical thing. But we're all going to and
we're all capable of it.
Speaker 2: That's what Jesus all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all capable of reaching the heights of
these masters. It's just our choice on how we get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there called master because they mastered, they mastered
the dimension, right, Joseph says, when you can be you see,
we take these steps. So so far the human make
this really quick. So far, the human aspect, the physical aspect,
has been and creating ever since I got here, dominantly
from its contrasting side, which is why we have chaos
and war and famine and abuse. And you know those
are out of alignment, manifestations from creating from the contrast.
When you shift, so when you get to the fifty
one forty nine, now you're dominantly creating from love. We
call it's the downhill on the roller coaster. You know,
it's all downhill from there because once you experience it,
you know, on a consistent level, why would you ever
choose anything else?
Speaker 1: Right? Exactly? Yeah, No, you're you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. Now,
with everything that's happening in the world today, do you
see any or does Joseph see any significant changes happening
for humanity in this year?
Speaker 2: There are significant changes happening daily now, and certain there
are pockets of information that are coming through, and depending
on what you're focused on, is the experience you will have.
This is the what's happening in the earth plane is
the choosing the experience that the human collective is creating
dominantly from the contrast. If you choose to focus there
is what is stirring everything up. But the shift in consciousness.
That is a natural progression. You have shifted consciousness. Consciousness
is many, many, many unlimited times in your experience as
an aspect, So you have to keep in mind that
the more contrast that is being exposed, there is a
we've heard it, we've said it, actually that in your
third dimensional world, we would call it a now evolved war,
a cyber war, which is the space you have taken
yourselves too, most of it very very good and some
not so good in your language. We see it as
the contrast, and we see that the human collective is
creating more and more. However, there is always balance, so
as the shift is happening. This is why we say
that this next step for humanity is a conscious choosing.
It must be a conscious choosing. You're stepping into a
realm that offers a different physical experience. Now, when we
say that you must understand too, that our message is
based on universal truth and as you know, and as
we've been talking, that it is a vibrational foundation where
everything is created and manifested through vibrational agreement. You must
keep that in mind when you are talking about and
thinking about, and participating in and acting upon your goings on,
uh in your world.
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking right now, you're talking a lot of wheeze.
So Joseph is talking through you at the moment. This
is not you talking, correct, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's all of us, me being the mouthpiece
right exactly. It's holding me back. You know, I wanted
to be a little a little more, you know, sassy,
and they hold me. Yes, they usually let me get
away with it. But they're funny. They're funny. So okay,
so let us just say this to you that we
will give you the pathway out of this, uh, this
puzzle that you are creating with Some people say, uh,
what does it look like from your point of view?
And I say, and I say, from the eyes of Joseph,
it looks like a traffic jam. It just looks like
a big traffic jam. That's what I feel. That's what
I feel when I see that, can't describe it any
other way. It feels like a big traffic jam. The
only way out is to choose love. The only way
out is to choose a different vibration from which to create,
and that starts on an individual level. But as Abraham
you know, has been teaching for many, many years, seriously,
one in alignment is more powerful than a million who aren't,
because that one in alignment is creating from the space
of love, the space of the soul, the God consciousness,
the Christ's consciousness. There's nothing more powerful than that. So
the only way that you move from this space, and
you certainly don't have to, You're not going anywhere you
certainly don't have to. It's a choosing you must. You
must choose to focus on love more than fear. That's
how you get into alignment, first of all, but you
must choose it in every moment, and soon you will
be a collective that lives it.
Speaker 1: Now, as of this recording, the April eighth eclipse is
coming down the street down the time. What is the
global impact to spiritual to the to or the global
spiritual energy, the impact of global spiritual energy that that
eclipse is going to do. What what is it because
a lot of people are afraid of it, of course,
because you know, obviously the aliens are coming, you know,
and the comments coming to destroy us. Obviously any day
now the dinosaurs will be back. But yes, exactly, so
what what effect is this going to have on the
collective as far as our consciousness is concerned, and just
spiritual energy on the planet in general.
Speaker 2: We're going to say it again. We're going to say
it again. It's we liken this too. We've gotten this question,
but we liken this to the generality and collective belief
in mercury retrograde, where people say, get under the covers
and hide, and so this is you know, we kind
of chuckle at that. But this eclipse is no different
than any other eclipse. Some you've experienced, some you have
no idea of. But it is part of the shift.
It is part of the universal movement, and it offers
a new experience. It offers a choice. It offers a choice.
There is not darkness being poured into your realm of consciousness.
There is what you refer to as darkness, but we
see as contrast, it is a choosing space. And if
you see it as such, then you will understand to
choose your way out. So you can look at this
eclipse as as any universal movement and all. How as
wonderful as your science is, it hasn't touched on what
is available for your understanding, especially about things like this
that happened in in your consciousness. But there is so
much more. So we say that this is light coming in.
This is opportunity for change, This is opportunity for I
don't know about you, Alex, but I am just buzzing
right now. Can you feel that? Wow, that's so cool. Sorry,
So we would we would tell you to move into
this space, not unlike any advice we would ever get.
Move into the space of light that is available, that
is is pouring in picture. It like a picture. A
picture is just coming. You can step in the middle
of it.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: You will experience as you do any universal shift. You
will experience this eclipse as either an in or out
of alignment opportunity. And if you choose the in alignment position,
you will expand your aspect, which is the point of
you being here. You will be consciously choosing to expand
this physical aspect that is you, or you can jump
in your bed and pull the covers over your head
and wait for it to pass, and and and increase,
expand the fear quotient.
Speaker 1: By choosing it, will the will the eclipse influence in
individuals challenges or personal growth as they're going through life.
Speaker 2: The same answer. Yeah, it's the same answer. It's always
the same answer because it's a vibrational movement. Your universe
moves by vibration. You cannot have a manifestation without vibrational agreement.
So if you go into this believing that you will,
something's going to happen, some big explode, whatever it is,
some big catastrophe is going to happen somewhere, either in
your personal life or globally, country whatever, you will experience
the fear of that, which means that you are choosing.
You are choosing and creating a pathway toward an experience
when you focus on it. So if somebody says to you, Alex,
this this thing is going to be really bad. It's
going to be really bad. You know, they're predicting all
these outages and people are going to go crazy and
all this stuff same thing happened. And remember when we
flipped over Pier two thousand, yeah, y two k twelve.
Speaker 1: Place was inplodeyetour it's constant.
Speaker 2: Fear, right, only manifestations of fear. So it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter what's going on where you as an individual,
unique physical aspect of your unique soul doesn't matter what's
going on around you. You get to choose your experience
of it. And if you have the perspective of your soul,
which is the shifting of your dominant creative vibration right
into alignment, if you're focused on that, if you're focused
on only alignment, on focusing on being in alignment, and
you're still in the third dimension, so you're not going
to be in alignment all the time. It's what tethers
you to this realm of consciousness. But the more you
focus on that, that's your eternal soul's pathway and all
your stuff is there. You know the experiences that you
want to have to expand you know the event. Your
eternal path is event driven, all about understanding who you
are and then living it. You know those aha moments.
Speaker 1: So many of us are going through, you know, adverse
times in our own lives because of the things you're
talking about about focusing on the fear, about focusing on
the negative, if you will, what lessons can people learn
about through these adversities? Because I don't know about you,
I've learned the most out of the negative things that
have happened in my life. Whether I liked it or
not as it was happening to me is irrelevant. Looking
back on it, you're like, thank God, that happened. So
what lessons can people learn from these adversaries or dealing
with this kind of stuff on a daily basis?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's getting it seems to be if you
look at it from that perspective, it's getting worse every day.
You know, it's always something every time we turn around
as something else. And I get this question a lot.
It's a vibrational shift. I don't know how else to
say it, and I know it sounds so repetitive, But
when you can shift your perspective about what fear is
and how it creates and what it creates, and how
to recognize that you are creating from it, we prefer
contrasts for the contrast. Once you understand it from a
vibrational perspective, from the perspective of your soul. It removes
the fear, it removes the judgment. So when you have
a thought, when you have a thought about something, so
pick something politics. I don't want to talk about politics.
I just want to pick it. It's crazy, right, it's
crazy everywhere. It's just crazy, and it's very divided. So
depending on what side you're on, what you've chosen to
focus on, if that if that focus evokes fear in you,
what's going to happen? Are we going to be okay?
Or you know, oh my god, the price is going
to go through the room. Whatever it is, you are
creating a pathway in that contrast to experience that vibration
that you're choosing to focus on. So that is the
shift from calling things fear and love to in and
out of alignment. The first indication that everyone has that
we have vibrational communication, again from the aspects of you,
is your emotional response. And if your first emotion about
a situation, circumstance, whatever new whatever you say, see is fear,
is anger, is jealousy, is loneliness, or sadness, heartache, all
those that go with the contrast. Right, the contrast is
the vibrational agreement for that focus you have. So of
course you're going to create an out of alignment experience
from it war ultimately collective grouping, you know. So if
you feel an out of alignment emotion, which is out
of alignment with who you really are, that is your
first indication that you're dominantly creating from the contrasting side
of you, the physical vibration of you, not the non
physical vibration of you, who is your soul. So it's
that that point that you say, wait a minute, I
don't have to choose this. I don't have to create
a fearful experience for myself. I'm going to choose something else.
I'm going to choose love. Now that's kind of difficult,
and we're talking about politics, but you can. I have
done it. You can do it, and that's when you
begin to change.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, because a lot I get this
question all the time, why do bad things happen to
good people? We all, you know, when we see it
in a movie or we see it in a TV show,
it gets us upset. When we see it in our
own lives, it really irks us. What role does karma
have when these challenges face are faced by good people,
because it's it seems like, oh, it's not fair that
this happened to that person. She's never heard of a
fly in her life kind of thing. I'd love to
hear Joseph's perspective on that.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, our perspective of what karma is, of course,
is very different from what is kind of generally in
the contrast, and that is that again, the physical vibration
of you you have been collecting through every single lifetime
that you have experienced in the third dimension. When you
kick off, the only thing you take with you is love,
is the loving vibration that you have experienced here. However,
many times it doesn't matter. You have expanded through love,
and so when you die, you take that love with you.
It's the only thing that's in vibrational agreement with your soul,
the only thing that can go with you, right, and
that physical vibration of you lies dormant on that vibrational
timeline until your soul refocuses and we stand up and
we say, okay, we're ready to go again. So then
that's when the next level of expansion happens for the
physical vibration. But you are evidence. I am evidence. Every
human who's on the planet right now is evidence that
there physical vibration is still dominant in the contrast. So
that means that every experience you had, every understanding that
you ever had coming up through the ranks, thousands of
years here evolving and learning new things, new teachings, new parents,
new beliefs, new everything. As the human involves, those things evolve, right,
and you carry that in your physical vibrational makeup. So
when that's what we say karma, that's how we describe
what karma is. It's not a punishment because there is
no judgment. From our perspective, there's no punishing. There's never
anything wrong. There's only vibrational agreement. That's all there river is.
So you know good people, there's no bad person. There's
just in and out of alignment experiences. And so the
fact that that good guy is here in the dimension
is evidence that he has an out of alignment vibration.
Of course he does. He's here, he's in the contrast,
which means part of his vibration is still in alignment
with the contrast, or he wouldn't be here. You cannot
be here and be in the fifth dimension at the
same time, there's no contrast there.
Speaker 1: That's why we come down here is to experience contrast
to experience.
Speaker 2: To experience and understand that you can choose. It's a
choosing place.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show. So the way you're
presenting karma, I understand completely. What you're saying is that
it's not a punishment like so many people say. But
from my understanding of karma, from my research and people
I've spoken to on the show, is that it's correct
that you're correct that there is not a punishment, but
you choose when you come back into a life to
work out that vibration that is stuck here, like you're saying,
that is aligned with this physical vibration, to overcome it,
to overcome it, and to finally choose out of that vibration.
But you have to kind of go through it through
the contrast. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Well? You know, some people say your it cracks me up.
Some people say your soul plans out these bad experiences
for you. That's impossible. That is impossible. Your soul cannot
create an out of alignment. Experience, nor would it. It's
pure love, which is why we come equipped with our
ego aspect, who is also pure love. The ego is
the balance the universe, so balance to the soul in
the third dimension, the soul provides us communication, vibrational communication
that results in those first indications. Remember we talked about emotions.
When you see something and it evokes in you an
immediate love, joy, authentic, you know, just beautiful excitement, that's
your soul communicating with you. Yes, yes, yes, that's alignment.
But when we but we are the choosers, When we
choose to focus on you know, and out of alignment
situation and get all mad and pissed off and stuff,
our ego steps in and says, okay, if you're going
to continue to focus there, Cindy, unique human aspect, free
will and pree choice. This is the emotion that that
focus manifests, and it's not good, So turn around, make
a U turn. The ego provides the what is referred
to as negative emotion. It's out of alignment emotion because
the soul cannot community. How would we know when we're
out of alignment? Have we come fully equipped with all
this stuff? So the ego loves us. So the ego
warning signs warning, warning, you're out of alignment. Go back,
go back, And that's that negative emotion that we feel.
That's communication with the aspects of us.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, you said something a few minutes ago,
you said timeline in this timeline, that is something that
has been talked about, is being talked about more and
more every day. Parallel realities the multiverse. How we spin
off multiple timelines in a lifetime to kind of work
out like should I marry Cindy, should I not marry Cindy?
Should I work with Alex? Should I not work with
Alexy Cindy? And we kind of play those out to
see what actually would happen in those scenarios. I'd love
to hear your point of view on parallel realities in
the multiverse.
Speaker 2: Well, what do you think we're gonna say? It's all
about Vitra, all.
Speaker 1: About it's all about by visual grid.
Speaker 2: I understand, but can you explain that's what you say?
Speaker 1: Can you explain the concept of because it's really hard
for our little brains to understand.
Speaker 2: Current limited understanding.
Speaker 1: Correct the idea of parallel realities multiverse? And even if
you want to go even deeper, that all our lives
are happening at the same time. There is no past,
there is no future, because that is a human constraint.
I'd love to hear if you can explain it in
a way that our limited minds can understand it.
Speaker 2: Think of a ball. Uh, yes, we would say that,
of course everything is happening now, only because what do
you think we're going to say? Because everything is vibrational
and the energy is moving all the time, all the time,
all the time. You're old enough, you remember the pinball machines, right,
Remember a pinball machine? So you know, if you shoot
the ball off and it's all cock eyed, it's bouncing
off all these bumpers, but it's going really fast, bouncing
off the sides and all these bumpers in the middle.
That's what we refer to as a vulnerable vibration. You're
creating every time you bounce on something but you don't
know where you are. Then you shoot it straight and
it goes straight down in alignment. So if you think
about the universe is always expanding, which and there's unlimited
vibrations in a universe, right, and in order to manifest,
you must have vibrational agreement, and vibrational agreement happens now,
it happens in every single moment. So there's no way
to simply put any of that that anybody would understand
to the degree that it would be as simple as
it really is.
Speaker 1: That makes that makes sense if you.
Speaker 2: Think again, well, it doesn't make sense to you, But
if you think about it from the vibrational perspective, there
is only intention, right focus, vibrational agreement and experience. That's
our process, that's the process of creating.
Speaker 1: So then what advice? So what advice would you give
someone who is having a difficult time feeling overwhelmed by
the negative things that are happening in the world right now,
Because there's a lot of negative things happening in the
world and a lot of people who are choosing to
connect with those feelings, especially the news, and the news
is not helping. So what would you what advice would
you give them?
Speaker 2: Three words? Turn it off, turn it off, turn it off.
You have to in order again, the only way to
change your experience is to choose a different vibrational component
from which to create. It's the only it's the only
way to change your experience and it's not changing it.
That's already created. Abraham calls it, it's old news. Manifestation
is old news. Right, it's already done. That's the vibrational agreement.
Here's the experience.
Speaker 1: Have at it.
Speaker 2: So you have to shift your perspective. You have to.
And people say to us all the time, it's too hard,
can't do it, it's too hard, and we say, you
don't have to do it. But this is why you're
creating and creating what you're creating over and over and
over and over again. And it gets more intense because
the more you focus on it, the more momentum you're
building from the out of alignment vibrational pattern you got going,
and the path just widens, It just keeps widening, and
everything that is in alignment with what you're creating, which
is out of alignment, will manifest for you experience after experience,
ultimately in your body. Ultimately you get ill because you
are causing your cells, which are reacting to your vibration,
to be out of alignment as well. There's no good
ending to that. There's no good ending. You just have
to shift your perspective. You have to change what you're
doing now, turn off the TV, go to a funny movie,
put old sitcoms on. Whatever it is you've got to
You got to take yourself out of the space. Nobody
can do it for you well with people.
Speaker 1: And I've had this happen to me in my life,
and I love to hear your thoughts about it, and
I think most people have had at one point or
another when people around you who seemingly are extremely happy
and they get ill, they get definitly ill, sometimes leading
to passing cancers and things like that. But they're good people,
They've done good things, all this kind of stuff, and
it obviously obviously no. But but again that thing that
was telling you, why did bad things happen to good people?
But why would if you're not aligned vibrationally to cancer?
How did cancer enter the conversation? Is my question to you.
Speaker 2: So now we're going to say so after everything you've
heard us say, you answer that.
Speaker 1: It's well, it's frequency, it's vibration.
Speaker 2: I get that.
Speaker 1: So the person is, whether they know it or not,
in vibration with that illness.
Speaker 2: Again, Evan, you're here, we're all here, you're on this earth.
You have contrasting vibrations as your physical we're still in
we're still journeying through it, you know, but we're still here.
We're still here. So of course, when something uh triggers
an O, it could be a vibration, could have been
from an experience you had five thousand years ago. It
doesn't matter. There's no time. It's in your physical vibration.
And as something triggers it, something somebody else gets sick,
or somebody had a friend that was scared to death
getting cancer. She was on the internet every day, every day,
going to doctors three or four times, just hard and healthy,
you know, played golf all the time, just healthy, healthy.
Well guess what happened, you know, she got cancer. Of course,
and I kept telling her, you got to stop, you
gotta stop. I just I'm going to avoid that. I
don't want it. Well, that's an invitation. Her focus is
the invitation.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: This is why, you know, so back to your question.
That's what you know. People say, well, how come a baby,
you know, how can a baby? Well, the baby has
picked up that physical vibration. That's what keeps it tethered.
Here we are, We have a physical vibration that is dominant.
Our bodies are a manifestation of our unique vibration. The
health of us. Now, that doesn't mean she can't heal.
Everybody has the ability to heal itself, itself, everything, everything.
You have the ability, you have to have the belief
and you have to shift.
Speaker 1: Well, the placebo effects. It's like the placebo effect. You
have to believe it.
Speaker 2: You have to believe it. And the funny thing is
is that the more you start focusing on your soul's beliefs,
the more you are consciously really shifting your physical vibrational
makeup to be fifty five sixty seventy eighty. And then
doors start to open, and then you're you know, you
cannot you cannot be in alignment consistently and be ill
because the body heals itself. The body, the cells of
your body are reacting responding to what you are focused on.
Focus is so important, you know, it's really the creation
of everything.
Speaker 1: So, len let me ask you this, how are the
wars and the conflicts that are happening globally affecting our
collective spiritually?
Speaker 2: Well, it's an opportunity again, you know, we see it.
Those of us who watch with compassion as observers and
holding a light. It's odd for me to say that,
because I don't. But when you hold the vibration, if
you're watching something that's going down on TV or whatever,
and you know, all these things have been happening all
the time for the past several years, and every time
you look at the you go, I can't believe this.
So where you're going to go? Then where you're going
to go? You're here, so you can choose to focus
on how bad that is and oh my god, I
got a call. Did you see what happened? They're forty
three people down. You just start this pathway and you
throw yourself back in the steaming pot again, you know,
and mix it up with all those people. There is
an opportunity to So now you're looking at what's going on,
and now you step into your soul's perspective of compassion
and love and peace, and you hold the peace, and
now you can observe it as an experience of a
manifestation for these people, and you have your own experience
of what you're seeing, and you hold the vibration of
your soul still human, you hold it with compassion not fear,
you hold it with love of your own understanding of manifestation.
Speaker 1: We were speaking a lot about vibration and frequency in
this conversation. Yeah, I think right. Is there a vibrational
charge or frequency charge to an eclipse astrologically to the
planet itself. Is there a changing of the energy because
of it or the frequency because of it? Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because it's the movement that changes it. It's
the movement and the direction of the energy. But also
what changes it for the human collective experience in all
our unique ways and collectively to all simultaneously is the
focus on it. So we would say to you that
if everyone who was planning to watch it or watch
it on TV, or step outside even if you're not
in the place and feel the energies of it, if
everyone who was doing that was holding a place of love,
it would shift the collective immediately. It would shift the
viavibration of the collective to alignment. Now, how you how
long you choose to hold that vibration is up to you.
The whole thing is up to you. But we'll tell
you that if everyone was doing that and focused on
alignment while viewing this beautiful universal shift, it's part of
the shift from the position of alignment. Every single human
who is holding that vibration and focused on the shift
of the universe would expand simultaneously.
Speaker 1: Can you explain to people who don't understand what is
happening currently for humanity, this consciousness shift that we've been
talking Can you explain it to somebody who doesn't really
understand what this means for humanity itself as a collective
and for the individuals inside of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's exciting, It's really exciting. We describe it
like this again, when you first dive into let us
start in a new place. There are unlimited aspects of
your soul. Right, we refer to God as the collective soul,
which is you know everything, just everything. So you, Alex
have a unique soul. Sin He has a unique soul.
Everybody has a unique soul, and you are a unique
aspect of your unique soul.
Speaker 1: So you.
Speaker 2: Brand new to the third dimension right out of a
desire of your soul to expand itself. As Love says,
how else can we do that? Well, let's create a
new aspect that can go figure it out. And as
that aspect expands in love, so will we So the
aspect dives into the third dimension, and it comes in
knowing nothing about who it really is, which is the
manifesting and expanding of itself through its own dominant creative force,
which at that time is ninety nine percent in the
contrast per sent love, because it has no idea who
it is. And as it journeys through this contrasting dimension
by choice, leaves comes back thousands of times, thousands of
times unlimited experiences of this dimension of contrast. And as
we are moving through those timelines, all in vibrational alignment
with the contrast, but all different and unique. Okay, but
they're still dominant in the contrast. So they're here, we
are moving through them. We are walking through the third
dimension out of it. Right, So as we leave and
come back, leave and come back, we are always expanding
through a shift in our consciousness. Every single time we
come back, we have expanded by way of our soul's expansion,
the collective us. So every time we come back, we're evolving, evolving, evolving,
but we're always evolving within the third dimension as this aspect. Now, ah,
there comes a time when we realize we get to
this level of understanding, level of knowing as we've expanded
by way of our soul, more of who we really are.
And we say, wait a minute, we're the ones that
are creating this. We have the choice, We have the
power of our soul. We are an aspect of our soul.
Let's figure this out. What the hell are we doing
so now, so all those timelines we're experiencing shift in consciousness,
shift in consciousness, but we didn't pay much attention because
we're still in the contrast. But now here we sit
on the precipice of a new experience as the physical
human of the soul, the fourth dimension. The numbers are
labels you have assigned, will use them. It's an opportunity
for a different experience as the physical aspect of you.
Of course, you keep expanding, so now you sit on
this precipice of the fourth dimension. And when you're this
is a conscious shift. That's why we're conscious of it now.
It must be done consciously. And when you are dominantly
creating from your soul's perspective, that fourth dimension is the
downhill slide, and you go from fifty one fifty contrast
soul to fifty one forty nine soul contrast, and then
it's all downhill. Then you go sixty forty, seventy thirty.
This is the experience of the fourth dimension eighty twenty.
And when you hit the one hundred percent mark, you're
in the New Earth vibration where there's no contrast anymore. So,
in essence, it's a walking out of the fog. So
walking out of the fog, and the more you evolve,
the less dense you become, and that's mastery.
Speaker 1: Essentially. We are on a rudimentary level where God's algorithm
in a sense.
Speaker 2: Does that make sense well your own? Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor
and now back to the show. But as an algorithms,
as you as explaining it, I'm like, well, I said,
on a rudimentary level, I said, very basic level. The
soul is much more complicated than an algorithm. Please don't
say anything in the comments.
Speaker 2: We will say we're much more simple. Yeah, but you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It is kind of like that in many ways.
Speaker 2: Well, you're creating it, Yeah, you're creating it. Now we
know we're creating it, right, Jane Roberts, you know, says
back in the sixties said look what you guys are doing.
You know, you're creating this. Look how long it took
us to get it?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: And so now we get it. You know, we get it.
People don't really understand a lot of people still don't
understand how you create your reality because it's a process.
It's an under it's a process of understanding who you
really are. It's an unfolding that never ends or eternal,
you know. So I say, the sooner you get it,
the better off you are, because it's much more fun
to live from the space of being dominant in your
soul than it is the other way around.
Speaker 1: So that is probably one of the big mistakes that
people took away from a movie like The Secret or
the concept of law of attraction, whereas they focus on
the physical aspects of things to manifest and create their reality.
But the truth is that they need to understand who
they are and the and when they understand who they
truly are, and that fog starts to lift. Then the
creation process of your own life is a vibrational thing
where you are aligned with whatever vibration you are at
at the moment and continuously choosing exactly choosing that's the word,
and that's how you begin to create the reality. But
if you are sitting in a third dimension little place
and trying to create in a fifth dimensional manifestation, it
doesn't work. That's why the law of attraction and the
secret didn't work for a lot of people. It did
for some, but not for and it might might work
in some aspects here and there, but to truly control
the creation of your reality, you need to be aligned
at a high level. And then when we talk about
the Masters, the masters are so highly high frequency that
they are truly physically even sometimes creating the reality around themselves,
even to the level of Ababa Gee, who literally, you know,
is building castles out of thin air. Because there's such
at a level that they can do things like that.
Does that all make sense?
Speaker 2: Of course yes, because they understand vibration. They understand vibration,
and you can, you know, in meditation or when somebody
does a past life regression, you know when I did.
I did a few of them, and they're kind of wild,
but I'll tell you I understand that that is a
it's a choosing to hop on another timeline check out
what was going on over there, you know, and when
you're in alignment with your soul. Now, we would say
that you are choosing your alignment because you're always in
alignment with something, and if you are in a light,
if you're in alignment with the contrast, you're also experiencing
the contrast.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So if you take out the judgment and look at
it from the inner or out of alignment choosing and
the experiences that manifest from those choices, you begin quickly
to take control of your choosing and your focus and
you understand and then you start to see little things happen,
you know, starts to see little things. People expect too much.
They don't understand that this is a complete shift of
perspective that's happening. Now, that's what it is. It's a
shift in the human perspective of contrast where there are
no uh, you know, there are no sayings like life
is really hard or you have to work really hard
to accomplish anything. And if you don't look like this,
then you're not. You know. People buy into this unworthiness
kind of muckety muck, you know, and it just spreads
all over the place. But you're but that's alignment with contrast,
an experience of it.
Speaker 1: Do you see any spiritual movements or awakenings happening in
this year or if not this year, in the next
the rest of this decade.
Speaker 2: Imagine that you are asking if there will be a
spiritual event that will wake a lot of people up
at the same time. And we say that happens on
a daily basis, and it has been happening since you
stepped foot in the dimension you're experiencing.
Speaker 1: Now, fair enough, fair enough on a well, well, just
want to add to it.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, we'll just add to
that that many there is what you would refer to
as a mass awakening happening. Now you see it in
your own success. You see it in your own creation
and the ease. Although we know we're watching, but we
know the effort that you are putting in, and we
know the joy that you are finding also that it
brings to you. And so you are feeling you are
experiencing the expansion of the collective in your unique way
by the expanding of what your purposes and your own
focus is expanding. And as you are expanding, you are
experiencing the unfolding of this amazing manifestation that you are
living and creating in every moment. That is your best
evidence of a spiritual awakening. If you are anticipating the
physical appearance of a archangel Michael, he is there all
the time. And if you are, if you will, if
you will, carry a belief that tells you you can
see him, you will see him. You are so supported
by the masters, the ones you call the masters. They
are aspects of all of you. They are aspects, and
they are sharing and emanating the love for your planet
at this time, knowing the struggle that you are having
and saying, come this way, come this way, Come this way,
and this way.
Speaker 1: Is the.
Speaker 2: Way that Jesus spoke about. And the way is love.
The way is joy. Joy. It is joy. That is
what the secret left out. It's not the material things.
As soon as you attach a monetary you can't. It's
a monetary reward. You are out of alignment with your
soul's desire of joy. You see, there's no vibrational agreement.
There's once in contrast and once not.
Speaker 1: What part does Shows like mine and others around the
world play in this awakening that we're going through because
we are alternative media. Shows like mine are alternative to
the fear of mongering and the misinformation a lot of
times that you hear from the mainstream and it's not.
I mean, I'm one small part of this giant, giant
movement in regards to shows like this podcast, all these
kind of things around the world. Can you explain to
people what this means for this awakening that we're all
going through.
Speaker 2: Well, it is evidence. Again, it is evidence of the
focus that is being shifted. It is the evidence because
every show, whether it resonates with you or your audience,
every there is a purpose for everyone who's stepping forward.
Everyone has a purpose, Everyone has someone seeking them. And
if you look back over the evolution just in the
last hundred years, the evolution of the awareness of this
kind of stuff that we all talk about and we
love to talk about. Right, we come here so we
can hear somebody talk about it because we can't talk
about it out there. Well, the out there is getting
much small, and so you will at some point in
the not so distant future, you will become a part
of the main stream because your mainstream is attracting its mainstream.
The more people who are focusing on and there are millions,
the more people and growing every day. But the more
people who are focusing on your show and shows like yours,
the more teachers are stepping forward, and you are creating
what we refer to as a collective grouping of this
love vibration. You are the ones who will move. You
are the front front runners. You're leading the pack. Esther
refers to it as on the leading edge, yes, and
Cindy refers to it as the machete cutting the new
road ahead. Because we don't know where we're going in
this particular shift, which we'd like to add to our
answer that we left off before, is that we have
shifted consciousness many many, many many times. This time, we
don't know how to live without fear, which is why
we need a fourth to mention, we need a buffer
zone to learn how to do it. And this is
when you shift your consciousness, you don't live and there's
no fear there, so you can't experience it. And the
more you know about that, the less you choose it
and you walk yourself out.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,
and now back to the show.
Speaker 2: Anyway we want to, so that all plays into the
growth of the quick growth everything. Trust us when we say,
everything that is happening now, regardless of your perspective of it,
is assisting humanity and moving forward. It is presenting choice,
big choice, and you are watching people flood to you.
People are flooding to the vibration. Your whole setup, your
whole intention from a vibrational perspective, is in alignment. You
can see that you're experiencing. Everybody sees it. Everybody sees
it is. It is the evidence and the exampling of
building and in alignment. I don't like the word business.
It's not a business. It's a It's a platform that
is offering choice for people. You're offering information and it's
this is what this next segment of the human collective
journey is is a choosing, a conscious choosing. So in
order to choose, there must be opportunity to choose. And you,
guys step up and you say, we're over here, and
people flood you do you.
Speaker 1: I had this thought the other day, and I'd love
to hear your thoughts about it that one day in
the distant future, maybe not so distant, our ancestors or
are not ancestors, would be the predecessor. What's the opposite
of ancestor the Ford versions of our Yeah, the the
generations behind us, hell, people in front of us. Yeah,
all the generations in front of us. You know, four
or five generations ahead of us will look back on
the show like this and find it quaint and find
it Oh wow, they needed this. This is all fundamental.
Speaker 2: Now we'll know. We'll stop you there and we will
say that, we will say that, they will look they
will look at it with love and and and joy
because there is no judgment from where we're heading. There
is no judgment. There is understanding, and there is love
and joy and excitement knowing that these these this platform
that you are creating and these uh, this it's gonna
be huge, first of all. But this whole thing around
the world, it's like it's like God, is that even possible?
You know? They have those the circle of people around
the world. They're all holding hands and they're in the
water and they're all over there walking on the water,
and they're just this is what I'm seeing. This is
a big it's a it's a big connection. So it's
a worldwide connection. And derailed.
Speaker 1: I totally derailed around Yeah, around the that it would
be people from other generations will come back.
Speaker 2: Is that this is quiet? Oh my god? Yeah, so
it will and oh yeah yeah worldwide it will. It will.
I'm gonna say it's kind of bibleish in that it
will last that long. It is a teaching tool because
if we're if we're all all the teachers, everybody listening now,
we're all cutting edge, right, we're all moving forward, we're
paying attention, and we're all expanding. Well if we're the
first set at this level, not the first set, but
we're in the group right where the newcomers coming in
and we're all teaching something different. But there's always going
to be somebody at this level of understanding.
Speaker 1: HM.
Speaker 2: So you you provide that first level, and then you'll
expand and you expand, you continue to expand your knowing.
You continue to expand your own knowing, which expands your manifestation,
which expands your teaching, your whatever you're doing there big.
Speaker 1: This is the ABC's of in many ways, the ABC's
of spirituality, of movement, of higher consciousness. And you were
saying that there will always be if you're here in
the third dimension, there will always be someone just getting here,
just starting this process. While it happens now every day.
Things that we've spoken about in this conversation are to
you and me are very fundamental and almost it's almost
like they don't even think about it. Yeah, but there
might be twenty things that we said in this conversation
that will make someone's head explode because they have never
heard it before and been they've been waiting for it.
So yes, yeah, and it will resonate with them in
a way that it doesn't resonate for us anymore, because
you and I have already gone through this level. You know,
it's kind of like, oh, yeah, we understand frequency, we
understand this. Oh no, don't get me wrong. It still
feels fantastic. No, But and I'm not saying that is
a better or worse thing, because I'm just saying it
on a just on a different scale of we're all learning.
There's things that I might know that you don't, and
things that you don't that you're you know that I don't.
Everybody everyone's learning at different levels about everything. So I
like that. I never really thought about that. I guess
I was a little too polyannic that five or six
generations from now, everyone's evolved. There's no anything everything's fantastic.
Speaker 2: Because you're always going to be looking ahead. You'll always
be looking ahead, you know, which is why we're saying
look ahead, look ahead, don't look don't look back. There's
no looking back. Can't unexperience something, you can't unlearn something.
Everything that we've experienced and learned and understood and created
from has gotten us here. You know. Now we know
we can create new stuff. You don't change the old stuff.
You create new stuff.
Speaker 1: Cindy, do you have any party messages for the audience
that less things that you really want the audience to
take home with them after this conversation.
Speaker 2: Yes, self love and you know people, I was one
of them, Joseph was in the beginning Love Yourself. I
just blew it off. I didn't. I said, I don't
even know what that means. I don't even know. How
can you expect me to experience Somebody used to yell
at them, how do you expect me to experience something
when I have no idea what that means? I don't
know how that feels. And they said, how do you
think it feels? And that started a new journey. But
self love is so important because we have all these
contrasting vibrations in US. You know, the war unworthiness is
the probably the biggest one that most people have in
some form or another from this lifetime or another, doesn't matter.
And you know, finding out and discovering who you really are.
And you know that's like alignment is self love. When
you're in alignment, you feel the love of your soul.
You know, which everybody wins from that, you know, because
when you're focused there, you're creating from there, and you're
creating love. You're creating space for people to love, you know,
to experience love. It's the most important thing, you know,
it's it's a creative force powerful. So I say, focus, focus,
focus on that, Cindy.
Speaker 1: Where can people find out more about you and the
amazing work that you and Joseph are doing to awaken
the planet.
Speaker 2: Everything is on our website, Teachings of Joseph dot Com.
You can get to our YouTube from there. The books
are there. Join us on Instagram there we post quotes
every day there. Yeah, one stop shopping, no shopping, one
stop in one stop. Yeah, we love it.
Speaker 1: Sidy's been such a pleasure and honor talking to you again.
Thank you and Joseph for everything that you're doing to
awaken the planet, and I truly, truly appreciate you, so
thank you again.
Speaker 2: Y It hell Man, thank you, We appreciate you too.
Thanks for all your daling.
Speaker 1: Thank you for spending this sacred time with us today.
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