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<v Speaker 1>Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the expanded college football Playoff is brand new this year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like something I'm thinking about a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, typically we don't get it. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know what to expect, but like I keep forgetting,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we still haven't crowned a college football national champion.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got we've got games coming up here tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know, well not yeah, we've got well not

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<v Speaker 2>the College FOOTBA playoff games. I'm looking here at the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule and here's here. Let me just tell you what

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<v Speaker 2>I did. This speak. This speaks to me being a

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<v Speaker 2>dumb ass more than it does anything else. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you somewhat of an excuse for me being

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<v Speaker 2>in a dumbass year. You ready, Austin. I saw that

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama played tomorrow on the DraftKings sportsbook app here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just assume, well, that's a playoff game, because Alabama

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<v Speaker 2>not being in the playoff sure kind of is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a it's always surprise, right, they were there a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more than they weren't. Now that they don't have saving,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit different, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Sort of trained to believe that they're already in the

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<v Speaker 3>championship game, but.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have any we don't have any actual college

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<v Speaker 2>football games. Uh, until let's see when why is it

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<v Speaker 2>broken down like this?

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<v Speaker 3>It's just January first, right, just so Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow Penn State and Boise State? Is that tomorrow? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that they were all on the January January

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<v Speaker 3>January first games, New Year six bowls.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe the because sometimes if you are somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>bets as much as I do on on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>on everything, the And I don't mean they say that

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<v Speaker 2>to brag, like, you know, I don't win a whole lot,

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<v Speaker 2>but my point is like, sometimes if it's like an

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<v Speaker 2>event and you go to the sports like the College football, NBA, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it is, like if it's a specific event like a

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<v Speaker 2>bowl game, like they'll kind of put it in its

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<v Speaker 2>own tier. But I'm looking here and uh, again, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that that I feel like I should

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<v Speaker 2>just know. But again, it's new. The structure, the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>is a little bit different, but it does show that

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<v Speaker 2>Penn State Boise State is tomorrow at seven thirty. I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like that can't be right, But again,

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly just it hadn't been on my mind because

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<v Speaker 2>we've never this is we're going to be experiencing this

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<v Speaker 2>expanded playoff and we are, you know, for the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm seeing it tomorrow too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we have got along with the all the

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<v Speaker 3>Cup like the Alabama Michigan game, Louisville, Washington, South Carolina, Illinois, Baylor, LSU,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have all the other ones on January first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's weird that there's just one game tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>but then again, there was just one game when Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>played against Notre Dame and they you know, they gotta

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<v Speaker 2>they gotta figure it out from a TV perspective. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually excited knowing that we have a college football

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game tomorrow, and Louisville of course will play against

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<v Speaker 2>Washington and the Sun Bowl, and then whenever that ends,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go live for the for the for the postgame show,

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<v Speaker 2>which man, I have no clue what to expect as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the game, but also the postgame show. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna be excited to watch Louisville play.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna hope that they win. But when you take

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<v Speaker 2>away Tyler Shuck and it's and I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>really good, but like you're now going to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>that like we've never watched play. I mean, here we

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<v Speaker 2>are if it's if it's Bailey, which I believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be. I know, the young man Brady Allen

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<v Speaker 2>removed himself from the portal and it's coming back to

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<v Speaker 2>the Laulso, by the way, another football player for Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>did Joe Little Skinner, a Miami transfer who came in

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<v Speaker 2>at tight end this past year. Didn't play a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot he was in the portal. He's now out of

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<v Speaker 2>the portal and gonna return to Louisville. So I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be with Louisville for this bowl game. But either way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's just we have no clue what to expect.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that, it's like, you know, if Louisvill comes

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<v Speaker 2>out and plays like if Louisvill comes out and the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback play is subpar and it's a factor and a loss,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody wants that result will be you know, bummed because

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<v Speaker 2>our team didn't win. But like, what's the energy right where?

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<v Speaker 2>Like are you mad at somebody? Like are you willing

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<v Speaker 2>to look at this and see it for what it

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<v Speaker 2>is like, I just you know, these these are these

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<v Speaker 2>are just these games are just weird now, man, they are.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what to expect from the game,

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<v Speaker 2>or from the reaction from fans, or even from myself,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, but we will find out.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as it ends, we'll go live. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is what we're doing because of being at two o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>on a on a weekday. Uh, We're gonna do the

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<v Speaker 2>post game show and it's going to be presented by

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<v Speaker 2>all of the fine folks that have helped us with

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<v Speaker 2>our pre and post game coverage throughout the year. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about Alex Rright, Lawyers who distracted driver dot Com,

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<v Speaker 2>all a part of our coverage tomorrow whenever Louisville officially

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<v Speaker 2>ends their season, hopefully it's in a win. But and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you know, I'm somebody who always, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>learned this over the years, I really want to see

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<v Speaker 2>not only my team play and play well, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to be an opportunity to kind of figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where you stand. Right, did you learn that your team

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<v Speaker 2>is where you thought they were, or maybe you were,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you learned the hard way that they aren't as

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<v Speaker 2>good as you thought they were. But I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know how you would come up with whatever conclusion

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<v Speaker 2>you typically would come up with whenever you're in this

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<v Speaker 2>situation to where you've got some guys to be excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think having the two running backs you

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<v Speaker 2>have in Duke Watson and Isaac Brown both playing. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>Colin Lacey's going to play, and I look forward to

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<v Speaker 2>seeing him out there. I mean, I feel like Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>should win. But again, like maybe I'm way off here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe the guy that they're putting out their quarterback, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll see that there's a reason he's never been

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<v Speaker 2>able to be a full time starter anywhere. Again, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to expect, which makes it kind of weird.

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<v Speaker 2>But either way, whatever happens, we will certainly react to

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<v Speaker 2>it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got the first round, first game of the quarterfinals

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow to be Boise State and Penn State, and then

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<v Speaker 2>from there you've got on New Year's Day, which should

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<v Speaker 2>be freaking awesome, You've got Texas and Arizona State at

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<v Speaker 2>one o'clock, followed by Ohio State Oregon at five o'clock,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Notre Dame and Georgia will wrap it up

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<v Speaker 2>at eight forty five. So some good, you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>really really, I mean, I hope they're good games. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really know if they will be or not. However,

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<v Speaker 2>what it's worth in Saturn, I'm sorry. In Wednesday's game,

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<v Speaker 2>there's only one game that has a big spread. That's

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<v Speaker 2>Texas favored by twelve and a half over Arizona State.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even trust Texas or think that they're that good,

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<v Speaker 2>but like, doesn't that feel like the play Austin Texas

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<v Speaker 2>against Arizona State? Is that twenty points? You think? Are they?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I've been trying to doubt Arizona State

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<v Speaker 3>the last same here weeks, but like they've they've been

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<v Speaker 3>doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could see them losing by ten, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, total, like just right at that edge and that

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<v Speaker 3>ends up screwing you on your parlay.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't know if I would touch that because oh.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's absolute stay away from me. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'll bet on it because you know, I'm an idiot, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and I see if I see action available, I have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time not getting involved on set action. But

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio State, they are two and a half point dogs

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<v Speaker 2>again or sorry, two and a half two and a

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<v Speaker 2>half point favorites against Oregon and then Georgia just a

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<v Speaker 2>one point favorite against Notre Dame. I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to do with these man because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not as big of a believer in

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia and Notre Dame. I mean I shouldn't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if everybody Maybe everybody's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>down on these teams. But like Notre Dame, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like has been very fortunate with their schedule and they've

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<v Speaker 2>done a good job at you know, taking care of

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<v Speaker 2>business outside of the one loss they had that is

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<v Speaker 2>inexcusable to Northern Illinois. But like Indiana, losing the Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame by ten doesn't make me think, Okay, Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>proved a lot of people wrong. No offense to Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it was a gutless coaching performance. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the punt at midfield going down seventeen, and look, there

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<v Speaker 2>are other coaches that I think would have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to do that and it wouldn't have been such a

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<v Speaker 2>talking point. But in that situation, meaning it's winner, go home,

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<v Speaker 2>you're already like you get nothing to lose, nobody's going

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<v Speaker 2>to criticize you for doing it. But for Signetti, who

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<v Speaker 2>I like, I genuinely do like him. Oh yeah, to

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<v Speaker 2>be to be that guy and then not have the

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<v Speaker 2>energy in that moment was I still like him? But

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of now, this is gonna sound like any

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna sound like an overreaction, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, but I have a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a doubt that he really is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>he's claiming to be because it always seemed a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a force to me. I feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>knew deep down by being this cocky guy at of

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<v Speaker 2>all places, Indiana, then like gonna it's gonna get him

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<v Speaker 2>some attention, and it's going to like if he just

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<v Speaker 2>came in and talked about how big of a rebuilt

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<v Speaker 2>job it was for Indiana and that he just hopes

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<v Speaker 2>they can be competitive and reminds people of how bad

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<v Speaker 2>they were before he got there. One that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been lame, And that's what a lot of coaches do.

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<v Speaker 2>But he got himself attention before he won a game

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<v Speaker 2>by just being like, I mean, he went out there

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<v Speaker 2>when he's introduced to an Indiana basketball game last te

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<v Speaker 2>Tere he got hired and said, you know, Ohio State sucks,

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<v Speaker 2>produce sucks. Who else would do as another team that

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<v Speaker 2>he said sucked and they were gonna go beat him,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Michigan maybe maybe it was. And he

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<v Speaker 2>beat two of them, but you know, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Notre dame to me. I just I like Georgia, so

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<v Speaker 2>therefore they'd be the obvious pick for me because they're

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<v Speaker 2>only favored by one. But I haven't really watched Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>this year. He never really felt like they were anything

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<v Speaker 2>clear to what they were just a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But then again, they probably made I mean, Georgia winning

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<v Speaker 2>those two championships back to back, those two teams were

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<v Speaker 2>I mean insanely good. Like that was before the Portal

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<v Speaker 2>really became what it is now, to where Georgia, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't losing guys to the Portal because of being

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<v Speaker 2>behind an elite All American caliber player at one spot

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe a lot of spots. So I like Georgia there,

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<v Speaker 2>but really I don't if either of these teams lays

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<v Speaker 2>surprise would be Georgia losing a game that's not super close.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really see that happening, but not really sure

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<v Speaker 2>what to expect. I do think Ohio State will be Oregon.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think I'm just gonna be betting on because

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<v Speaker 5>Anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm gonna just throw everything that we know about

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<v Speaker 3>these teams out the window, throw the record books out

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<v Speaker 3>the window, whatever cliches you want to use. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>sheer craziness of the first time during this twelve team

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<v Speaker 3>college football playoff, the whole bye week thing, and now

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<v Speaker 3>every body is now on a neutral field, now no

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<v Speaker 3>one's at home, so that that one's gonna be uh

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<v Speaker 3>that it's going to be pretty not easy to judge,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's going to be like I'm just throwing blank

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<v Speaker 5>I'm fine with it.

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<v Speaker 2>only the only play that I had that worked out

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<v Speaker 2>took the over and I put uh the I put.

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<v Speaker 2>I put a bigger unit on it than I typically do,

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<v Speaker 2>a big unit and it and in the overhit and

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<v Speaker 2>all right, the hell with it. You got to you

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<v Speaker 2>got to bounce back. Do one play, no parlay. Put

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<v Speaker 2>a heavier, heavier hit on it, and it and it

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<v Speaker 2>paid off for me. So and I've been doing that

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<v Speaker 2>a little more lately than I than I, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have typically done. I had a good Friday. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what. I don't even really know what led to

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<v Speaker 2>I took the over in the the who was it

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<v Speaker 2>who played Friday Night? I took the over in the

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse game against whoever they played, Texas Tech? Maybe text

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<v Speaker 2>Tech played Arkansas, right, yeah, yes? And then I don't

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<v Speaker 2>remember who Syracuse played, but I took the over in

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<v Speaker 2>those two games, and they were They hit the over

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<v Speaker 2>in like the third quarter, one of them almost hit

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<v Speaker 2>at halftime. And then I took usc money line as dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>They were down thirteen, I think, in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>and I fell asleep, woke up the next morning to

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<v Speaker 2>see that that notification had come through that the parlay hit.

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<v Speaker 2>So sometimes it's just luck. I mean, I did feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about those. And by the way, I don't take

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<v Speaker 2>this as like advice, but I do feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>bowl games, if the over's not crazy high and it's

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<v Speaker 2>teams that you know can score, there's a better chance

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<v Speaker 2>of it hitting, because again it's the human element. Like

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<v Speaker 2>right now it's halftime and Iowa has twenty one points.

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<v Speaker 2>Iowa went what four weeks in a season last year

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<v Speaker 2>where they didn't total twenty one points in those four weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and this year they were better offensively, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one points and a half at Iowa with Kirk

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<v Speaker 2>friends is just I mean, it sounds crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So so many of these bull have been going over though, too,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think the oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, that one it's I think it was sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>It was set in like sixty or sixty three, and

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<v Speaker 3>both teams have what like forty Yeah, it's something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the cash it was twenty one to at one

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<v Speaker 2>point it was it was twenty one, twenty eight like

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<v Speaker 2>early in the second quarter. Like it was crazy. So

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of great defense being played.

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<v Speaker 5>Syracuse played Washington State by the okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that that over that overhead as well. So

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of bowl games, Like I talked to this a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit when I was on HAS this morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't you know, I don't want to sound like

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<v Speaker 2>an a hole, like I'm going out of my way

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<v Speaker 2>to like make fun of a of a of a guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And he is a kid, he's true freshman, but the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback at Nebraska, the guy who had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>hype coming out of high school, and he made some

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<v Speaker 2>freshman mistakes, but overall, Dylan Rayola.

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<v Speaker 5>Rayel, the Patrick Mahomes kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he's he's he's been pretty good for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they they went to a bowl game for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. And by the way, I don't people realize this,

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<v Speaker 2>Nebraska had the longest streak without being bowl eligible in

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<v Speaker 2>college football. Wow, Like for a program that you know

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<v Speaker 2>used to be good, Like that's crazy. So they got

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<v Speaker 2>to a bowl game this time around, and they beat

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<v Speaker 2>Boston College. I don't think they were that good, but

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, they did take a step forward, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think for a true freshman, he was pretty good. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>true freshman playing quarterback, both him and the quarterback that's

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<v Speaker 2>at Tennessee. They had some moments this year where you

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<v Speaker 2>can see why they were recruited the way they were

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure if they stick around, they'll have great

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<v Speaker 2>careers there. But and again, there's no way to say

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<v Speaker 2>it without sounding like an ahole. So maybe this is

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<v Speaker 2>some self reflection for me, Austin that I am in

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<v Speaker 2>a hole. But what he's doing basically being cosplay Mahomes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>It's lame.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, obviously lame, But I think the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>thing is, like that's not normal.

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<v Speaker 3>You see he's going to like Chiefs games and signing

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<v Speaker 3>autographs like it's like while looking like Mahomes it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so like it's one thing to where the where

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<v Speaker 2>a number that a certain player where's It's one thing

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<v Speaker 2>to be upfront about players that you idolized because you

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<v Speaker 2>grew up watching them and you knew they were great

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<v Speaker 2>and you felt like you could maybe really be motivated

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<v Speaker 2>by the way they play give an example, and it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of came. It came full circle for him. But

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Rozier was obsessed with Dwayne Wade, loved Dwayne Wade,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could see that Terry actually had a little

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<v Speaker 2>Dwayne Wade in it, Like I think that's a decent comparison. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>actually their size. Like I mean, so you know I

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<v Speaker 2>remember hearing that. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can totally tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell that he really watched Dwayne Wade very

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<v Speaker 2>closely growing up, because there's a lot of his game

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<v Speaker 2>that I can tell that maybe it wasn't necessarily trying

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<v Speaker 2>to like pretend to be him, but like he he

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<v Speaker 2>watched him study them, admired him, and you know, was

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<v Speaker 2>motivated to try to be like him as a young kid.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's a young kid. He's a true freshman. But

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<v Speaker 2>this is not like he's my favorite player and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to wear his number. Shout out to Patrick Mahomes,

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite player of all time, my role model. This

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<v Speaker 2>dude is pretty, he's kind, he's pretending to be Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>and when people brought it up to him, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>really well insulated. And I mean this, like again, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sound like an a hole because I don't people to

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<v Speaker 2>go after this guy and like ruin his life and

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<v Speaker 2>tell him that he's a loser. And I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>saying that I believe that, but this is not normal,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't feel like anybody's noticing at that level.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in Lincoln, Nebraska. You know what that means. He's insulated.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no big media market like talking about how weird

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<v Speaker 2>this is. This is weird. Like if I was his parent,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, i'd be proud of him because look at him,

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<v Speaker 2>He's a phenomenal young man that's playing. But like this,

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<v Speaker 2>I I would be willing to bet that there's things

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<v Speaker 2>like that you don't even see on the surface that

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<v Speaker 2>would be alarming. As far as like his mannerisms, every

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<v Speaker 2>little thing he does, it's like he's trying to be Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it's one thing to like model your game

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<v Speaker 2>after him and say that you like him. But when

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<v Speaker 2>he was asked about it, he played dumb. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know people remember that or not. Like I think he

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<v Speaker 2>did acknowledge he was a fan, but early on in

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<v Speaker 2>the season he was like offended lightly that, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know about that, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like he didn't know that people. He surprised. People thought

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<v Speaker 2>that he was trying. Like his hair is very much

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<v Speaker 2>intentionally the headband the number, the way he runs around

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<v Speaker 2>like he was after they beat Boston College, maybe was

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<v Speaker 2>before the game, just trying to get people hyped up.

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<v Speaker 2>He was out there literally recreating maybe something Mahomes does

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<v Speaker 2>every game. But like I don't watch the Chiefs enough

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<v Speaker 2>and I would like to never watch him because I

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<v Speaker 2>hate him. But like it was clear every little thing

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<v Speaker 2>about the way he was bouncing, the way he was

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<v Speaker 2>moving his like he was trying to recreate something that

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<v Speaker 2>he saw Patrick Mahomes do, not on the field in

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<v Speaker 2>the action, but like the celebration, the way he holds

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<v Speaker 2>his helmet, like everything like and again that's not coincidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and again it's harmless, I suppose, But like for for

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<v Speaker 2>him to be a phenom freshman who had a good

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<v Speaker 2>year for a true freshman, has a bright future there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, Like this is not just like oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of plays like Mahomes. You can tell he

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<v Speaker 2>likes him. He's like straight up trying to beat him.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if Patrick Mahomes ends up missing one day, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>blaming him. I don't know, I won't. I can't prove it,

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<v Speaker 2>but like this guy, it's it's it's kind of I.

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<v Speaker 5>Want to be weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be mad at I mean I am,

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<v Speaker 3>because that is a grown ass man.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've you've kind of made me realize that I

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<v Speaker 2>sound like an a hole, because no, I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 2>at him, Like it doesn't bother me. But to me,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so blatantly weird, and nobody else seems to

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledge it, and it's just something that stood out to me.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a pr move, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 3>good because one day that guy is gonna hit the

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<v Speaker 3>transfer portal and you can be surprised. He's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be like a hot commodity because everything's gonna want him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take That's a good shout, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be his brand going forward. If nothing ever

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<v Speaker 3>happens with him in the NFL, he's probably gonna try

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<v Speaker 3>to make some money off of that or attach his

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<v Speaker 3>self to Mahomes in some way. And Mahomes doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>to have a problem though.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, Mahomes, who I Mames one of those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>just like Steph Curry at times went in the heat

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<v Speaker 2>of the moment. I feel like they do a little

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<v Speaker 2>too much wanting and maybe sometimes they get favorable, but

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<v Speaker 2>like me feeling away negatively about Mahomes or Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 2>is just a reminder that I'm a hater and you

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<v Speaker 2>need to be a hater at times in sports. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys don't do any those guys are I think

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<v Speaker 2>those guys are good dudes, especially to consider what Mahomes

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<v Speaker 2>puts up with with his wife and his brother and

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<v Speaker 2>his dad. Like, I think I think they're good dudes.

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<v Speaker 2>They're good role models. And Mahomes was super classy and professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what this is, what actually put this

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<v Speaker 2>on my radar, Austin, is that Mahomes was talking up

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<v Speaker 2>the young man like maybe he's a talented guy. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just you know, I'm flattered. I think that's I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's cool, like just being really humble about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And the kid was The nineteen year old was asked

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<v Speaker 2>about what what Mahomes said almost like he thought it

419
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<v Speaker 2>was cool, and he played dumb like, I don't I

420
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<v Speaker 2>don't know why, I don't know, I don't know why.

421
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<v Speaker 2>You know, he didn't, Like, if you're gonna be that way,

422
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<v Speaker 2>you got to have parents, coaches, somebody in front of you,

423
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<v Speaker 2>like read the room, bro. People know that you're obsessed,

424
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<v Speaker 2>and it's cool because he's a star, but like it's

425
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<v Speaker 2>just a different level of like glazing.

426
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<v Speaker 5>As they say, I can't stand Patrick Mahomes.

427
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<v Speaker 2>I can't.

428
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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

429
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<v Speaker 2>I can't eat stand Patrick Mahomes at all. But it's

430
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<v Speaker 2>just because he's so good and I don't want the

431
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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs to keep winning.

432
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<v Speaker 3>His dad is annoying to after all the playoff, he

433
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<v Speaker 3>keep dad loves the booze he does. He comes off

434
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<v Speaker 3>as like and he probably was instrumental on his light,

435
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<v Speaker 3>but he comes off of he's definitely loving right in

436
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<v Speaker 3>the coattails of famous.

437
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<v Speaker 1>They all are.

438
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<v Speaker 2>They love it, they all are, no doubt right quick break,

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<v Speaker 4>Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>You guys know, I'm not a big I told you

444
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<v Speaker 2>so guy, unless you know I occasionally have the chance

445
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<v Speaker 2>to say I told you so. I'm not sure if

446
00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:47.000
<v Speaker 2>this fits, but I've been telling people wake up, and

447
00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:48.960
<v Speaker 2>there's no I don't. I don't get a ton of pushback,

448
00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:50.880
<v Speaker 2>but I get some pushback on this. The acc is

449
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<v Speaker 2>a lousy conference, folks. I mean, I don't say, like

450
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to be a jerk, Like it's one

451
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<v Speaker 2>of those things like when Louisville is really lousy in basketball,

452
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<v Speaker 2>like they were under Kenny Payne, I wouldn't really go

453
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<v Speaker 2>to my way to like go there, but once we

454
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<v Speaker 2>would talk about it, because you know, we talk about

455
00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:08.880
<v Speaker 2>louis of basketball around here. It would be impossible for

456
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<v Speaker 2>me to not just say what I think and say

457
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<v Speaker 2>what I know, say what's real. But a lot of

458
00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:13.960
<v Speaker 2>people just you know, you know, but you don't want

459
00:20:13.960 --> 00:20:15.920
<v Speaker 2>to hear it. But what am I supposed to do? So, like,

460
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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the same feeling about the ACC, meaning

461
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go to my way to like

462
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<v Speaker 2>be critical of Louisville unless we're just being honest and

463
00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, having to call it like it is. I

464
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<v Speaker 2>have no affiliation with the ACC to where like I

465
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<v Speaker 2>am when people dog Louisville, you know at times, especially

466
00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:35.079
<v Speaker 2>if I feel like it's if it's not justified, Like

467
00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm a fan, so I'm gonna feel a certain way

468
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<v Speaker 2>and want to defend them. I have no feeling like

469
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<v Speaker 2>that with the ACC. But I think because Louisville's an

470
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<v Speaker 2>ACC member. There are some that like still kind of

471
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<v Speaker 2>look at it that way, and I suppose I get it.

472
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<v Speaker 2>I just I've never had any real emotion towards a

473
00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:54.119
<v Speaker 2>conference because we've been everywhere since I've been a fan,

474
00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:57.319
<v Speaker 2>and we've been successful at different levels of course throughout

475
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<v Speaker 2>my entire life as a fan. So the AEC stinks,

476
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<v Speaker 2>Like that's just acknowledge it. It doesn't mean that every team

477
00:21:02.839 --> 00:21:05.359
<v Speaker 2>in the league stinks. It doesn't mean that, like you know,

478
00:21:06.119 --> 00:21:08.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody like that they should just make the move to

479
00:21:08.279 --> 00:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>D two. But like, how can you watch how bad

480
00:21:10.039 --> 00:21:12.599
<v Speaker 2>the basketball league is right now? How can you see

481
00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that the football conference is? I mean where they go

482
00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:20.920
<v Speaker 2>one and nine, they're one and nine in bowl games

483
00:21:20.920 --> 00:21:25.680
<v Speaker 2>at this point, and they're zero to ten in against

484
00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:27.519
<v Speaker 2>the spread because Syracuse didn't win a bowl game but

485
00:21:27.519 --> 00:21:30.079
<v Speaker 2>they didn't cover. So like it's right in front of

486
00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:33.319
<v Speaker 2>our face, Like this is bad, and you know you

487
00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.640
<v Speaker 2>can do about it as a fan, but I just

488
00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:37.319
<v Speaker 2>want to see them fix it. I want to see

489
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<v Speaker 2>coaches be held accountable on basketball especially. I think from

490
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<v Speaker 2>a football perspective, you just you just need to, like

491
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<v Speaker 2>for football to be good you need Florida State to

492
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<v Speaker 2>be up, You need Clemson to be up, need Miami

493
00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:52.519
<v Speaker 2>to be up. And those are the teams that I

494
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<v Speaker 2>think need to be up consistently for the for it

495
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<v Speaker 2>to be a national thing, to where like the ACC's

496
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<v Speaker 2>got a little got a little uh life again. And

497
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<v Speaker 2>I think Louisville can be pretty good. In fact, Louisvill's

498
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<v Speaker 2>been better than Miami consistently for the most part, and

499
00:22:07.160 --> 00:22:08.839
<v Speaker 2>that speaks more to Miami than it does Louisll to

500
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<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, but my point is if those

501
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<v Speaker 2>three teams are usually up and they're pretty good and

502
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:14.599
<v Speaker 2>or you know, when I say pretty good, I mean

503
00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.599
<v Speaker 2>like you know in a twelve team playoff world, you

504
00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:19.799
<v Speaker 2>know they're alive for a good chunk of the season,

505
00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:22.559
<v Speaker 2>and then Louisville can be a team that I feel

506
00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:24.640
<v Speaker 2>like under Jeff Brohm, I think you can consistently find

507
00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:27.359
<v Speaker 2>yourself as a top twenty five team. And let's be real,

508
00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:30.599
<v Speaker 2>you would have been a top fifteen team right now

509
00:22:30.640 --> 00:22:33.480
<v Speaker 2>as we speak, not playing in El Paso. If you

510
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<v Speaker 2>beat Stanford, who who you really had to work hard

511
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<v Speaker 2>to lose against? So and then if who else can

512
00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.559
<v Speaker 2>be like I don't know. Syracuse is probably not sustainable,

513
00:22:43.599 --> 00:22:45.400
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pretty impressed with Fran Brown as a head

514
00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.440
<v Speaker 2>coach Pittsburgh g I don't think that's gonna work out

515
00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:50.720
<v Speaker 2>long term because they ended the season so poorly. So,

516
00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.319
<v Speaker 2>like the football side of it, like I think you

517
00:22:53.359 --> 00:22:55.079
<v Speaker 2>can clearly be a lot better than you are, Like

518
00:22:55.119 --> 00:22:57.160
<v Speaker 2>maybe Virginia Tech gets back one day, Like you could

519
00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.559
<v Speaker 2>be a lot better than you are in football than

520
00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>you are right now. But like there's certain programs, let's

521
00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.119
<v Speaker 2>be real, the ceilings not high. But in basketball, you

522
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:08.640
<v Speaker 2>got programs that like they used to carry the weight

523
00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 2>in the league and hoops and they're just having a

524
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:13.359
<v Speaker 2>rough stretch. Louisville, of course, is the biggest, is one

525
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:15.119
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest problems when it comes to that because

526
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<v Speaker 2>of what happened in the last few years. So like

527
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<v Speaker 2>I realize when I talk about about a SCEC basketball,

528
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.319
<v Speaker 2>like I'm aware Louisville is maybe the biggest factor in

529
00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>that a program. You know, when it comes to the

530
00:23:25.119 --> 00:23:29.039
<v Speaker 2>teams in the ACC that have won national championships, there's

531
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<v Speaker 2>what four that have won one in the last eleven years.

532
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Louis was one of them. There are I don't know

533
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<v Speaker 2>how many that have been to a Final four in

534
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<v Speaker 2>the last fifteen years, but LOUISLL is one of them.

535
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<v Speaker 2>So like we still carry something that despite the past.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Again I said this before. Who knows how good loisll

537
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<v Speaker 2>was going to be under Pat Kelsey. The only time

538
00:23:52.880 --> 00:23:54.920
<v Speaker 2>will tell, but Louis is always going to have to

539
00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>have a strong commitment to being good in basketball. There's

540
00:23:57.160 --> 00:24:00.240
<v Speaker 2>other schools that like they may like when Boston College

541
00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.680
<v Speaker 2>fires their coach, who they gonna go get, Like, who knows,

542
00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:06.279
<v Speaker 2>maybe they get a guy that's really good, but like

543
00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:09.359
<v Speaker 2>they don't have like the same expectations when they hire

544
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<v Speaker 2>a coach. And to be honest, Louiville did have high expectations.

545
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<v Speaker 2>In the end. It was somebody that a lot of

546
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<v Speaker 2>people weren't thinking was a candidate. But so far, I

547
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<v Speaker 2>think you can see it. Again, this is not me

548
00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:18.839
<v Speaker 2>telling you it's going to be great, but like I

549
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:20.880
<v Speaker 2>can see why Josh Hurt felt like Pat Kelsey might

550
00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:22.920
<v Speaker 2>really be what we needed around here, a guy that

551
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.440
<v Speaker 2>could utilize the resources that are here. So anytime I

552
00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 2>start talking about how bad the ACC is, like I

553
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.480
<v Speaker 2>know there's going to be people that just take it

554
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<v Speaker 2>as if I'm insulting them in Louisville, and it's not

555
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:34.759
<v Speaker 2>that at all. The league, Like even if you don't

556
00:24:34.799 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 2>like it, doesn't mean it's not true. Like the numbers

557
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>have never been more in front of your face to

558
00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:41.799
<v Speaker 2>tell you that the league stinks and it needs to

559
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.160
<v Speaker 2>be better. And I'm more worried about basketball than anything

560
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:47.599
<v Speaker 2>because basketball, you know, I guess I'm more sad that

561
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>it's as bad as it is. That's the better way

562
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to put it. Because I still think the likelihood of

563
00:24:51.440 --> 00:24:53.839
<v Speaker 2>like this league not getting better with some coaching changes,

564
00:24:53.880 --> 00:24:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I think that would be a real surprise. But it's

565
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>just in a really tough stretch right now. But if

566
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<v Speaker 2>you wanted more evidence that the ACC is just in

567
00:25:01.079 --> 00:25:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a bad way, the current NET rankings, which again that's

568
00:25:05.200 --> 00:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the formula that the NCAA Selection Committee uses. It's similar

569
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to the Ken Palm, the Bart Torvik rankings that are

570
00:25:11.920 --> 00:25:15.720
<v Speaker 2>out there. Those will cons of different formulas that'll you

571
00:25:15.839 --> 00:25:18.359
<v Speaker 2>can reference, but the NET is the one the NAA

572
00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>created and they use it. And right now, the bottom

573
00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:27.680
<v Speaker 2>ten programs from the power leagues meaning ACC SEC, Big ten,

574
00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve in the Big East. Of the ten, worst

575
00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>six of them are in the ACC. In fact, wow, wow,

576
00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.200
<v Speaker 2>four of them are in the bottom five. The five

577
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:49.559
<v Speaker 2>worst power teams Power five teams in college basketball are

578
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:54.960
<v Speaker 2>from the Atlantic Coast Conference, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Seaton Hall, Miami,

579
00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech. In fact, you've got four of the top five.

580
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:02.000
<v Speaker 2>In fact, he let me, let me, let me, let

581
00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>me make it even worse, You've got six. Let me different.

582
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Am I losing my mind here? Yeah? Cal is in

583
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the ACC. Unless I'm drunk, right, yep. Still sounds weird,

584
00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.759
<v Speaker 2>So like it doesn't seem like, hey, that's an ACC team,

585
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 2>but Cal, Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College.

586
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 2>That's so yeah, six of the top six of the

587
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>worst ten are in the ACC. And that's not like

588
00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.680
<v Speaker 2>an opinion, that's not a hater that's got biased towards

589
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:33.400
<v Speaker 2>the ACC. That's just a formula and the other formul

590
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:35.359
<v Speaker 2>like nobody's out to get the ACC. And this is

591
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:37.519
<v Speaker 2>what always bothered me, and I made it a bigger

592
00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:39.720
<v Speaker 2>talking point that I needed to. But at the ACC

593
00:26:39.839 --> 00:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Basketball media days that I went to the a CEC

594
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.200
<v Speaker 2>tip off, the noise was that they were they were

595
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:49.559
<v Speaker 2>victims like the media that were there, the coaches, the commissioner.

596
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.839
<v Speaker 2>Their their tone was more so that we've the the

597
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, the end. The committee needs to give us

598
00:26:55.759 --> 00:26:59.960
<v Speaker 2>some more respect. They're biased against us, when in reality,

599
00:27:00.160 --> 00:27:02.759
<v Speaker 2>nobody's biased against you, like this is who you are,

600
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 2>and I just I was it was it really was

601
00:27:04.839 --> 00:27:06.920
<v Speaker 2>alarming to me something that I think was at one

602
00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>time sacred ACC basketball folks. Instead of realizing we have

603
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:14.160
<v Speaker 2>like we're not what we once were, they're just like, well,

604
00:27:14.160 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 2>they're picking on us. And look, I know there's been

605
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a big change in coaches and maybe these coaches, I

606
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:21.599
<v Speaker 2>mean like Rick, Rick got out and he didn't want

607
00:27:21.640 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>to leave, and that led to you know, Mac and Mack. Look,

608
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:26.680
<v Speaker 2>let's be real, Mac would be thriving in the ACC

609
00:27:26.880 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 2>right now. I'm biased because I love Mac and he's

610
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>doing a fine job at Charleston and I'm not saying

611
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:32.160
<v Speaker 2>like he should still be the coach here now, but

612
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.079
<v Speaker 2>like when it fell apart for Mac, like Mac never

613
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>even get to finish the ACC schedule in the one

614
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 2>year that they were down, and you know, it fell

615
00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>apart and he left, So you know, like it started

616
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:46.920
<v Speaker 2>right around that time and Beheim leaving and it being

617
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.680
<v Speaker 2>left to Red Autrey, Hubert Davis taking Hubert Davis and

618
00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Carolina is still a good team for sure, they played

619
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:55.119
<v Speaker 2>in the championship game just two years ago. But there's

620
00:27:55.160 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>they're not the Carolina standard, which most aren't because you know,

621
00:27:57.519 --> 00:28:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Carolina is Carolina. So they've they've to where now they're

622
00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>not even ranked. It's not even a quad one win

623
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 2>if you get it on Wednesday. So again, here they

624
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<v Speaker 2>are one of the best league, one of the best

625
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<v Speaker 2>teams in the league, one of the last opportunities for

626
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<v Speaker 2>Love to get a big win. But yet like their

627
00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.079
<v Speaker 2>way off their standard this year. How many losses they have,

628
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<v Speaker 2>like five or six. So you know, my point is this,

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<v Speaker 2>like I think Shyer will do well there. I've really

630
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<v Speaker 2>this year. You know, we'll see what he does in

631
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<v Speaker 2>the tournament. But I feel like he's in a pretty

632
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:24.680
<v Speaker 2>good spot there where they're gonna have enough talent. And

633
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<v Speaker 2>I said this not that long ago. Kind of felt weird, Sam,

634
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<v Speaker 2>but I think he's a good coach. Like, I think

635
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<v Speaker 2>he'll do well there. Building k shoes are different. But

636
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 2>these dudes who like Bennett Bennett leaving and leaving leaving

637
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<v Speaker 2>the job when he did, he clearly did it to

638
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>get his assistant a job. So maybe these schools will

639
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<v Speaker 2>show when they do have to go out and make

640
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<v Speaker 2>a hire that wasn't something they were kind of forced

641
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<v Speaker 2>to do, then they'll go out and get a good

642
00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 2>coach and basketball will be back. But like right now,

643
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<v Speaker 2>it's in a bad way because anytime I mentioned the

644
00:28:48.640 --> 00:28:53.359
<v Speaker 2>ACC being really down, people, well, look at all, look

645
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>at all the call the legends they lost. Okay, should

646
00:28:56.720 --> 00:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>we just close down the league? Like I mean, can

647
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<v Speaker 2>we not have life after these guys? Like you know,

648
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>other leagues are getting better because they're hiring good coaches,

649
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and like you know, I hope the ACC does that,

650
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they will. There's not been a guy that

651
00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>got a job at an ACC program that that, you know,

652
00:29:13.519 --> 00:29:16.759
<v Speaker 2>since these guys left that. I'm like, man, this is

653
00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 2>a song that they don't care about basketball anymore. Because again,

654
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.759
<v Speaker 2>like you knew Roy Williams is going to leave it

655
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:24.359
<v Speaker 2>to Hubert, you knew Shire was gonna was gonna be

656
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<v Speaker 2>the guy after Duke before uh, after k before he retired.

657
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<v Speaker 2>And I think Shire has done a good job. But

658
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>the other schools like Miami, Florida State Virginia, Syracuse. They've

659
00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:36.559
<v Speaker 2>got to They've got to figure out, like Syracuse is

660
00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the most important to me because I think they can

661
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 2>always be good, but they've only ever had Beheim do

662
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.119
<v Speaker 2>where you really don't know. So I bring all this

663
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 2>up to say, the acc on the floor, on the

664
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:49.039
<v Speaker 2>court terrible right now, not in a good way. Anybody

665
00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>trying to commitce you otherwise is just in denial. But

666
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:56.160
<v Speaker 2>they're also just doing like King Galleran way, like counmbarrassing.

667
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>Was it that Florida State and Clemson were trying to

668
00:29:58.119 --> 00:29:59.759
<v Speaker 2>sue to get out of this league and then Florida

669
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<v Speaker 2>State out? I mean, it was nice to see Florida

670
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 2>State fall on their face, but like that's not a

671
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:04.920
<v Speaker 2>good look for your league. It's embarrassing, to be honest

672
00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.359
<v Speaker 2>with you. I mean they're more embarrassed than anybody. But still,

673
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and then you've got Laryonnega leaving mid season and blaming

674
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<v Speaker 2>it on you know, the new way of college hoops,

675
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>which you know it helped you the first year, and

676
00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 2>then now you've got this situation at Florida State, like

677
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:24.599
<v Speaker 2>this is really a product of kind of where we are.

678
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<v Speaker 2>But still like the first program to have it come

679
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<v Speaker 2>out like this where these guys are filing a lawsuit

680
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:32.640
<v Speaker 2>because they didn't get paid what they were told they

681
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 2>were going to be paid by their head coach. To

682
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you, I've talked to a couple people

683
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>today this happening, which we'll get to it. On the

684
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:40.559
<v Speaker 2>other side, there's six former players that are finding a

685
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<v Speaker 2>one and a half million dollar a lawsuit against Leonard

686
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<v Speaker 2>Hamilton for him telling them they were going to be

687
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.160
<v Speaker 2>making a certain amount of money and they didn't get in.

688
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>They didn't get it. But and that's again leave it

689
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>to Florida State and the ACC to be the ones

690
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.279
<v Speaker 2>that kind of get this public embarrassment. However, there are

691
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:59.200
<v Speaker 2>so many programs around the country right now, high level

692
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>programs that saw this and felt, uh, oh, somebody broke

693
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the ice. A domino fell because there's a lot of

694
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:09.119
<v Speaker 2>dudes that didn't get the money they were supposed to

695
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.440
<v Speaker 2>get and they just you know, felt like it was

696
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they probably just took it on the chin. Well,

697
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.079
<v Speaker 2>this lawsuit, I think is going to open up more lawsuits.

698
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<v Speaker 2>There are guys that have set out games for high

699
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>major programs this year and last year because if you know,

700
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>dealing with something. Nah, it was a mispayment. It was

701
00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>it was checking receipts. Why have I not been paid

702
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>what I was told i'd be paid? And it's it's

703
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know how you fix it. But like again,

704
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>of all programs to have it be the one that gets,

705
00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:39.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, it gets the embarrassment of it. Like it's

706
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:41.279
<v Speaker 2>a terrible look for Florida State, right, Like I don't know,

707
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<v Speaker 2>like how does Florida State expect Leonard Hamilton recruit at all?

708
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<v Speaker 2>Or or how can you tell somebody come here with

709
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>this nil package when you got a lawsuit from six

710
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>dudes who were told they'd make a quarter of a

711
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.319
<v Speaker 2>million dollars and didn't get anything, Like they're now set

712
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:57.599
<v Speaker 2>up to be even worse. They have to fire Lonald Hamilton.

713
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:01.000
<v Speaker 2>How can you how can he survive this? And really

714
00:32:01.119 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>he's done for saying he's going to give him money

715
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 2>when he's not doing it, and yet he doesn't know

716
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 2>where the money's coming from. But at the end of day,

717
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 2>this guy's just trying to survive in this new world

718
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 2>of college basketball. But I just I don't know. I

719
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>sometimes I'm looking like like I was about the Mahomes

720
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:20.039
<v Speaker 2>cosplay with this in the acc Auten. I'm looking around, like,

721
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>is anybody realizing, like what happened to.

722
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 5>The acc here?

723
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Like this is bad? I quick break will come back

724
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<v Speaker 2>on the other side for a short segment right here

725
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:28.279
<v Speaker 2>on Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 4>Ninety Now back to coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

727
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<v Speaker 4>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

728
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<v Speaker 2>So very little time left here, but I will pick

729
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>up where I left off. I kind of just started

730
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>ranting about the acc assuming everybody had the full details

731
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<v Speaker 2>of what the big news is today and I didn't

732
00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 2>mention it, but not really like the actual specifics. But

733
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<v Speaker 2>six I'm sorry, five former Florida State players, including a

734
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:56.799
<v Speaker 2>former Louisville cardinal, Josh Nickelberry, he has uh filed they've

735
00:32:56.799 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 2>filed lawsuits against Leonard Hamilton, specifically because they have proof

736
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<v Speaker 2>that he kept telling them over and over that they'll

737
00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:06.880
<v Speaker 2>be paid the money that he told them they'd make

738
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>when they came to Florida State for nil. However, they

739
00:33:11.079 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 2>never got paid. And you know that's that's happening in

740
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a lot of places unfortunately. I mean, I've never believed

741
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:21.279
<v Speaker 2>that these guys make anywhere close to what is being alleged.

742
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:24.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't, I never have, and I can't prove that,

743
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:26.759
<v Speaker 2>but I just I know there's people that have a

744
00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>lot more money than I'll ever have to where if

745
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 2>they can give a quarter of a million dollars to

746
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 2>a player and it's nothing, then you know, maybe they will,

747
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:34.599
<v Speaker 2>but it just doesn't make any sense at all to

748
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 2>do it. And I just, you know, that's just my thoughts.

749
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 2>But these guys were all apparently told they'd make two

750
00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.759
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty thousand dollars. We're talking about Josh Nickleberry,

751
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Darren Green, Junior, Primo Spears, Cameron Fletcher, Deontay Green, and

752
00:33:49.000 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Warley. So two guys are no longer eligible, Green

753
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>and Nickleberry, and then Primo Spears transferred to UTSA. Cameron

754
00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Fletcher's transferred. He went to Kentucky by the way initially,

755
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>but he's now at Xavier. And then Deyontay Green. I

756
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>don't know where he ended up. But jamaln Worley actually

757
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:08.880
<v Speaker 2>plays for Gonzaga. So Hamilton kept telling people that his

758
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>business partners would be the ones that would actually get

759
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>them taken care of when it comes to nil, which

760
00:34:13.400 --> 00:34:16.360
<v Speaker 2>that is that's legal, you can do that. For example,

761
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.079
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne, you guys remember hearing the story about he

762
00:34:19.119 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>left money on the table from the Fibo two circle

763
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 2>that they raised. It's because that idiot, you know, felt

764
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 2>of all people to feel like arrogant. I mean, he

765
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't want that Fibo two circle money because he would

766
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.800
<v Speaker 2>just use money from like his rich business partners who

767
00:34:33.840 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>he's you know who, they're probably friends, not necessarily business partners,

768
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>but all you know, people he rubs elbows with, and

769
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:40.400
<v Speaker 2>they've got a lot of money. So that's how Lol

770
00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:43.199
<v Speaker 2>was able to pay just by winning four four games

771
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:44.519
<v Speaker 2>in a season and they could go out and get

772
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.039
<v Speaker 2>get a class that, to be honest with you, was

773
00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:51.159
<v Speaker 2>pretty good. So you know he's not paying it. He's

774
00:34:51.159 --> 00:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>not allowed. He's allowed to donate. That's a change meaning Hamilton,

775
00:34:54.519 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 2>but like he was claiming it was coming from his

776
00:34:56.079 --> 00:35:00.320
<v Speaker 2>business partners. These guys actually boycotted a practice in nearly

777
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>boycotted a game and because they were like all right,

778
00:35:04.079 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 2>like what's going on here? So you know, I don't

779
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 2>know how Leonard Hamilton can survive this in any way.

780
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I also didn't really I mean I knew he was

781
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>older and he's looked the same for like fifty years.

782
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>I saw a picture of him when he coached with

783
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.559
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Sutton, and I think he actually might have coach

784
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>with Joey Hall two at Kentucky and he looked the

785
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 2>same then as he does now. So you know, I

786
00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:26.639
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're gonna win their lawsuit because there's no contract,

787
00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.320
<v Speaker 2>But still like this is a bad look for Leonard

788
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 2>Hamilton in Florida State that really the issue is more

789
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>so where we are in college sports. But to be

790
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the first one to have this happen, it's gonna be

791
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the one people remember, I really do. I think that's

792
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be the case. All right, It's Coffee and Company

793
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<v Speaker 2>feel about Thorn's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety