Speaker 1: Coffee.
Speaker 2: Because the expanded college football Playoff is brand new this year.
Speaker 2: It's not like something I'm thinking about a whole lot,
Speaker 2: because you know, typically we don't get it. I don't
Speaker 2: really know what to expect, but like I keep forgetting,
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we still haven't crowned a college football national champion.
Speaker 2: And we've got we've got games coming up here tomorrow,
Speaker 2: which you know, well not yeah, we've got well not
Speaker 2: the College FOOTBA playoff games. I'm looking here at the
Speaker 2: schedule and here's here. Let me just tell you what
Speaker 2: I did. This speak. This speaks to me being a
Speaker 2: dumb ass more than it does anything else. But I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you somewhat of an excuse for me being
Speaker 2: in a dumbass year. You ready, Austin. I saw that
Speaker 2: Alabama played tomorrow on the DraftKings sportsbook app here, and
Speaker 2: I just assume, well, that's a playoff game, because Alabama
Speaker 2: not being in the playoff sure kind of is kind
Speaker 2: of a it's always surprise, right, they were there a
Speaker 2: lot more than they weren't. Now that they don't have saving,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit different, which is.
Speaker 3: Sort of trained to believe that they're already in the
Speaker 3: championship game, but.
Speaker 2: We don't have any we don't have any actual college
Speaker 2: football games. Uh, until let's see when why is it
Speaker 2: broken down like this?
Speaker 3: It's just January first, right, just so Wednesday.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Penn State and Boise State? Is that tomorrow? I
Speaker 2: think it.
Speaker 3: I thought that they were all on the January January
Speaker 3: January first games, New Year six bowls.
Speaker 2: So maybe the because sometimes if you are somebody who
Speaker 2: bets as much as I do on on you know,
Speaker 2: on everything, the And I don't mean they say that
Speaker 2: to brag, like, you know, I don't win a whole lot,
Speaker 2: but my point is like, sometimes if it's like an
Speaker 2: event and you go to the sports like the College football, NBA, whatever,
Speaker 2: it is, like if it's a specific event like a
Speaker 2: bowl game, like they'll kind of put it in its
Speaker 2: own tier. But I'm looking here and uh, again, like
Speaker 2: this is something that that I feel like I should
Speaker 2: just know. But again, it's new. The structure, the schedule
Speaker 2: is a little bit different, but it does show that
Speaker 2: Penn State Boise State is tomorrow at seven thirty. I
Speaker 2: kind of feel like that can't be right, But again,
Speaker 2: I honestly just it hadn't been on my mind because
Speaker 2: we've never this is we're going to be experiencing this
Speaker 2: expanded playoff and we are, you know, for the first time.
Speaker 5: I'm seeing it tomorrow too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have got along with the all the
Speaker 3: Cup like the Alabama Michigan game, Louisville, Washington, South Carolina, Illinois, Baylor, LSU,
Speaker 3: and then you have all the other ones on January first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's weird that there's just one game tomorrow,
Speaker 2: but then again, there was just one game when Indiana
Speaker 2: played against Notre Dame and they you know, they gotta
Speaker 2: they gotta figure it out from a TV perspective. So
Speaker 2: I'm actually excited knowing that we have a college football
Speaker 2: playoff game tomorrow, and Louisville of course will play against
Speaker 2: Washington and the Sun Bowl, and then whenever that ends,
Speaker 2: we'll go live for the for the for the postgame show,
Speaker 2: which man, I have no clue what to expect as
Speaker 2: far as the game, but also the postgame show. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna be excited to watch Louisville play.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hope that they win. But when you take
Speaker 2: away Tyler Shuck and it's and I think he was
Speaker 2: really good, but like you're now going to a guy
Speaker 2: that like we've never watched play. I mean, here we
Speaker 2: are if it's if it's Bailey, which I believe it's
Speaker 2: going to be. I know, the young man Brady Allen
Speaker 2: removed himself from the portal and it's coming back to
Speaker 2: the Laulso, by the way, another football player for Louisville
Speaker 2: did Joe Little Skinner, a Miami transfer who came in
Speaker 2: at tight end this past year. Didn't play a whole
Speaker 2: lot he was in the portal. He's now out of
Speaker 2: the portal and gonna return to Louisville. So I'm assuming
Speaker 2: he'll be with Louisville for this bowl game. But either way,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just we have no clue what to expect.
Speaker 2: And with that, it's like, you know, if Louisvill comes
Speaker 2: out and plays like if Louisvill comes out and the
Speaker 2: quarterback play is subpar and it's a factor and a loss,
Speaker 2: nobody wants that result will be you know, bummed because
Speaker 2: our team didn't win. But like, what's the energy right where?
Speaker 2: Like are you mad at somebody? Like are you willing
Speaker 2: to look at this and see it for what it
Speaker 2: is like, I just you know, these these are these
Speaker 2: are just these games are just weird now, man, they are.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what to expect from the game,
Speaker 2: or from the reaction from fans, or even from myself,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, but we will find out.
Speaker 2: As soon as it ends, we'll go live. And this
Speaker 2: is what we're doing because of being at two o'clock
Speaker 2: on a on a weekday. Uh, We're gonna do the
Speaker 2: post game show and it's going to be presented by
Speaker 2: all of the fine folks that have helped us with
Speaker 2: our pre and post game coverage throughout the year. So
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Speaker 2: Jefferson Animal Hospital, Pellow, windows Endorfs of Central Kentucky. They're
Speaker 2: all a part of our coverage tomorrow whenever Louisville officially
Speaker 2: ends their season, hopefully it's in a win. But and
Speaker 2: it's just you know, I'm somebody who always, and I've
Speaker 2: learned this over the years, I really want to see
Speaker 2: not only my team play and play well, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to be an opportunity to kind of figure out
Speaker 2: where you stand. Right, did you learn that your team
Speaker 2: is where you thought they were, or maybe you were,
Speaker 2: maybe you learned the hard way that they aren't as
Speaker 2: good as you thought they were. But I just don't
Speaker 2: even know how you would come up with whatever conclusion
Speaker 2: you typically would come up with whenever you're in this
Speaker 2: situation to where you've got some guys to be excited about.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think having the two running backs you
Speaker 2: have in Duke Watson and Isaac Brown both playing. Obviously
Speaker 2: Colin Lacey's going to play, and I look forward to
Speaker 2: seeing him out there. I mean, I feel like Louisville
Speaker 2: should win. But again, like maybe I'm way off here.
Speaker 2: Maybe the guy that they're putting out their quarterback, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe we'll see that there's a reason he's never been
Speaker 2: able to be a full time starter anywhere. Again, I
Speaker 2: don't know what to expect, which makes it kind of weird.
Speaker 2: But either way, whatever happens, we will certainly react to
Speaker 2: it tomorrow right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. So again,
Speaker 2: we've got the first round, first game of the quarterfinals
Speaker 2: tomorrow to be Boise State and Penn State, and then
Speaker 2: from there you've got on New Year's Day, which should
Speaker 2: be freaking awesome, You've got Texas and Arizona State at
Speaker 2: one o'clock, followed by Ohio State Oregon at five o'clock,
Speaker 2: and then Notre Dame and Georgia will wrap it up
Speaker 2: at eight forty five. So some good, you know, some
Speaker 2: really really, I mean, I hope they're good games. I
Speaker 2: don't really know if they will be or not. However,
Speaker 2: what it's worth in Saturn, I'm sorry. In Wednesday's game,
Speaker 2: there's only one game that has a big spread. That's
Speaker 2: Texas favored by twelve and a half over Arizona State.
Speaker 2: I didn't even trust Texas or think that they're that good,
Speaker 2: but like, doesn't that feel like the play Austin Texas
Speaker 2: against Arizona State? Is that twenty points? You think? Are they?
Speaker 3: I feel like I've been trying to doubt Arizona State
Speaker 3: the last same here weeks, but like they've they've been
Speaker 3: doing it.
Speaker 2: I could see them losing by ten, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, total, like just right at that edge and that
Speaker 3: ends up screwing you on your parlay.
Speaker 5: So I don't know if I would touch that because oh.
Speaker 2: No, it's it's absolute stay away from me. But I'm
Speaker 2: sure I'll bet on it because you know, I'm an idiot, right,
Speaker 2: and I see if I see action available, I have
Speaker 2: a hard time not getting involved on set action. But
Speaker 2: Ohio State, they are two and a half point dogs
Speaker 2: again or sorry, two and a half two and a
Speaker 2: half point favorites against Oregon and then Georgia just a
Speaker 2: one point favorite against Notre Dame. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with these man because
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not as big of a believer in
Speaker 2: Georgia and Notre Dame. I mean I shouldn't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if everybody Maybe everybody's kind of
Speaker 2: down on these teams. But like Notre Dame, I feel
Speaker 2: like has been very fortunate with their schedule and they've
Speaker 2: done a good job at you know, taking care of
Speaker 2: business outside of the one loss they had that is
Speaker 2: inexcusable to Northern Illinois. But like Indiana, losing the Notre
Speaker 2: Dame by ten doesn't make me think, Okay, Notre Dame
Speaker 2: proved a lot of people wrong. No offense to Indiana,
Speaker 2: but like it was a gutless coaching performance. I mean,
Speaker 2: the punt at midfield going down seventeen, and look, there
Speaker 2: are other coaches that I think would have been able
Speaker 2: to do that and it wouldn't have been such a
Speaker 2: talking point. But in that situation, meaning it's winner, go home,
Speaker 2: you're already like you get nothing to lose, nobody's going
Speaker 2: to criticize you for doing it. But for Signetti, who
Speaker 2: I like, I genuinely do like him. Oh yeah, to
Speaker 2: be to be that guy and then not have the
Speaker 2: energy in that moment was I still like him? But
Speaker 2: I kind of now, this is gonna sound like any
Speaker 2: This is gonna sound like an overreaction, and it is
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, but I have a little
Speaker 2: bit of a doubt that he really is the guy
Speaker 2: he's claiming to be because it always seemed a little
Speaker 2: bit of a force to me. I feel like he
Speaker 2: knew deep down by being this cocky guy at of
Speaker 2: all places, Indiana, then like gonna it's gonna get him
Speaker 2: some attention, and it's going to like if he just
Speaker 2: came in and talked about how big of a rebuilt
Speaker 2: job it was for Indiana and that he just hopes
Speaker 2: they can be competitive and reminds people of how bad
Speaker 2: they were before he got there. One that would have
Speaker 2: been lame, And that's what a lot of coaches do.
Speaker 2: But he got himself attention before he won a game
Speaker 2: by just being like, I mean, he went out there
Speaker 2: when he's introduced to an Indiana basketball game last te
Speaker 2: Tere he got hired and said, you know, Ohio State sucks,
Speaker 2: produce sucks. Who else would do as another team that
Speaker 2: he said sucked and they were gonna go beat him,
Speaker 2: and you know, Michigan maybe maybe it was. And he
Speaker 2: beat two of them, but you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Notre dame to me. I just I like Georgia, so
Speaker 2: therefore they'd be the obvious pick for me because they're
Speaker 2: only favored by one. But I haven't really watched Georgia
Speaker 2: this year. He never really felt like they were anything
Speaker 2: clear to what they were just a few years ago.
Speaker 2: But then again, they probably made I mean, Georgia winning
Speaker 2: those two championships back to back, those two teams were
Speaker 2: I mean insanely good. Like that was before the Portal
Speaker 2: really became what it is now, to where Georgia, you know,
Speaker 2: they weren't losing guys to the Portal because of being
Speaker 2: behind an elite All American caliber player at one spot
Speaker 2: or maybe a lot of spots. So I like Georgia there,
Speaker 2: but really I don't if either of these teams lays
Speaker 2: an egg and maybe I mean, I guess the bigger
Speaker 2: surprise would be Georgia losing a game that's not super close.
Speaker 2: I don't really see that happening, but not really sure
Speaker 2: what to expect. I do think Ohio State will be Oregon.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Ohio State over Oregon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm just gonna be betting on because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna end up betting on them.
Speaker 5: Anyways.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna just throw everything that we know about
Speaker 3: these teams out the window, throw the record books out
Speaker 3: the window, whatever cliches you want to use. It's the
Speaker 3: sheer craziness of the first time during this twelve team
Speaker 3: college football playoff, the whole bye week thing, and now
Speaker 3: every body is now on a neutral field, now no
Speaker 3: one's at home, so that that one's gonna be uh
Speaker 3: that it's going to be pretty not easy to judge,
Speaker 3: but it's going to be like I'm just throwing blank
Speaker 3: at the wall.
Speaker 5: I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, same here. I didn't do well. In fact, the
Speaker 2: only the only play that I had that worked out
Speaker 2: for me in the first round of games was I
Speaker 2: took the over and I put uh the I put.
Speaker 2: I put a bigger unit on it than I typically do,
Speaker 2: a big unit and it and in the overhit and
Speaker 2: I needed. I was having a rough day, and I'm
Speaker 2: all right, the hell with it. You got to you
Speaker 2: got to bounce back. Do one play, no parlay. Put
Speaker 2: a heavier, heavier hit on it, and it and it
Speaker 2: paid off for me. So and I've been doing that
Speaker 2: a little more lately than I than I, you know,
Speaker 2: have typically done. I had a good Friday. I don't
Speaker 2: know what. I don't even really know what led to
Speaker 2: me to do what I did when I bet, but
Speaker 2: I took the over in the the who was it
Speaker 2: who played Friday Night? I took the over in the
Speaker 2: Syracuse game against whoever they played, Texas Tech? Maybe text
Speaker 2: Tech played Arkansas, right, yeah, yes? And then I don't
Speaker 2: remember who Syracuse played, but I took the over in
Speaker 2: those two games, and they were They hit the over
Speaker 2: in like the third quarter, one of them almost hit
Speaker 2: at halftime. And then I took usc money line as dogs.
Speaker 2: They were down thirteen, I think, in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: and I fell asleep, woke up the next morning to
Speaker 2: see that that notification had come through that the parlay hit.
Speaker 2: So sometimes it's just luck. I mean, I did feel
Speaker 2: good about those. And by the way, I don't take
Speaker 2: this as like advice, but I do feel like in
Speaker 2: bowl games, if the over's not crazy high and it's
Speaker 2: teams that you know can score, there's a better chance
Speaker 2: of it hitting, because again it's the human element. Like
Speaker 2: right now it's halftime and Iowa has twenty one points.
Speaker 2: Iowa went what four weeks in a season last year
Speaker 2: where they didn't total twenty one points in those four weeks,
Speaker 2: and this year they were better offensively, but you know,
Speaker 2: twenty one points and a half at Iowa with Kirk
Speaker 2: friends is just I mean, it sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: So so many of these bull have been going over though, too,
Speaker 3: Like I think the oh.
Speaker 2: Dude, that one it's I think it was sixty.
Speaker 3: It was set in like sixty or sixty three, and
Speaker 3: both teams have what like forty Yeah, it's something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the cash it was twenty one to at one
Speaker 2: point it was it was twenty one, twenty eight like
Speaker 2: early in the second quarter. Like it was crazy. So
Speaker 2: not a lot of great defense being played.
Speaker 5: Syracuse played Washington State by the okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that over that overhead as well. So
Speaker 2: before we get to a break here, I do want
Speaker 2: speaking of bowl games, Like I talked to this a
Speaker 2: little bit when I was on HAS this morning, and
Speaker 2: I don't you know, I don't want to sound like
Speaker 2: an a hole, like I'm going out of my way
Speaker 2: to like make fun of a of a of a guy.
Speaker 2: And he is a kid, he's true freshman, but the
Speaker 2: quarterback at Nebraska, the guy who had a lot of
Speaker 2: hype coming out of high school, and he made some
Speaker 2: freshman mistakes, but overall, Dylan Rayola.
Speaker 5: Rayel, the Patrick Mahomes kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he's he's he's been pretty good for them.
Speaker 2: Like they they went to a bowl game for the
Speaker 2: first time. And by the way, I don't people realize this,
Speaker 2: Nebraska had the longest streak without being bowl eligible in
Speaker 2: college football. Wow, Like for a program that you know
Speaker 2: used to be good, Like that's crazy. So they got
Speaker 2: to a bowl game this time around, and they beat
Speaker 2: Boston College. I don't think they were that good, but
Speaker 2: like you know, they did take a step forward, and
Speaker 2: I think for a true freshman, he was pretty good. Again,
Speaker 2: true freshman playing quarterback, both him and the quarterback that's
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. They had some moments this year where you
Speaker 2: can see why they were recruited the way they were
Speaker 2: and I'm sure if they stick around, they'll have great
Speaker 2: careers there. But and again, there's no way to say
Speaker 2: it without sounding like an ahole. So maybe this is
Speaker 2: some self reflection for me, Austin that I am in
Speaker 2: a hole. But what he's doing basically being cosplay Mahomes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 5: It's lame.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, obviously lame, But I think the bigger
Speaker 2: thing is, like that's not normal.
Speaker 3: You see he's going to like Chiefs games and signing
Speaker 3: autographs like it's like while looking like Mahomes it.
Speaker 2: Well, so like it's one thing to where the where
Speaker 2: a number that a certain player where's It's one thing
Speaker 2: to be upfront about players that you idolized because you
Speaker 2: grew up watching them and you knew they were great
Speaker 2: and you felt like you could maybe really be motivated
Speaker 2: by the way they play give an example, and it
Speaker 2: kind of came. It came full circle for him. But
Speaker 2: Terry Rozier was obsessed with Dwayne Wade, loved Dwayne Wade,
Speaker 2: and I could see that Terry actually had a little
Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade in it, Like I think that's a decent comparison. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: actually their size. Like I mean, so you know I
Speaker 2: remember hearing that. I'm like, oh, yeah, I can totally tell.
Speaker 2: I could tell that he really watched Dwayne Wade very
Speaker 2: closely growing up, because there's a lot of his game
Speaker 2: that I can tell that maybe it wasn't necessarily trying
Speaker 2: to like pretend to be him, but like he he
Speaker 2: watched him study them, admired him, and you know, was
Speaker 2: motivated to try to be like him as a young kid.
Speaker 2: This guy's a young kid. He's a true freshman. But
Speaker 2: this is not like he's my favorite player and I'm
Speaker 2: going to wear his number. Shout out to Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: my favorite player of all time, my role model. This
Speaker 2: dude is pretty, he's kind, he's pretending to be Mahomes
Speaker 2: and when people brought it up to him, like he's
Speaker 2: really well insulated. And I mean this, like again, I'm
Speaker 2: sound like an a hole because I don't people to
Speaker 2: go after this guy and like ruin his life and
Speaker 2: tell him that he's a loser. And I'm not even
Speaker 2: saying that I believe that, but this is not normal,
Speaker 2: and I don't feel like anybody's noticing at that level.
Speaker 2: He's in Lincoln, Nebraska. You know what that means. He's insulated.
Speaker 2: There's no big media market like talking about how weird
Speaker 2: this is. This is weird. Like if I was his parent,
Speaker 2: you know, i'd be proud of him because look at him,
Speaker 2: He's a phenomenal young man that's playing. But like this,
Speaker 2: I I would be willing to bet that there's things
Speaker 2: like that you don't even see on the surface that
Speaker 2: would be alarming. As far as like his mannerisms, every
Speaker 2: little thing he does, it's like he's trying to be Mahomes.
Speaker 2: And again, it's one thing to like model your game
Speaker 2: after him and say that you like him. But when
Speaker 2: he was asked about it, he played dumb. I don't
Speaker 2: know people remember that or not. Like I think he
Speaker 2: did acknowledge he was a fan, but early on in
Speaker 2: the season he was like offended lightly that, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know about that, Like you know,
Speaker 2: like he didn't know that people. He surprised. People thought
Speaker 2: that he was trying. Like his hair is very much
Speaker 2: intentionally the headband the number, the way he runs around
Speaker 2: like he was after they beat Boston College, maybe was
Speaker 2: before the game, just trying to get people hyped up.
Speaker 2: He was out there literally recreating maybe something Mahomes does
Speaker 2: every game. But like I don't watch the Chiefs enough
Speaker 2: and I would like to never watch him because I
Speaker 2: hate him. But like it was clear every little thing
Speaker 2: about the way he was bouncing, the way he was
Speaker 2: moving his like he was trying to recreate something that
Speaker 2: he saw Patrick Mahomes do, not on the field in
Speaker 2: the action, but like the celebration, the way he holds
Speaker 2: his helmet, like everything like and again that's not coincidence,
Speaker 2: and again it's harmless, I suppose, But like for for
Speaker 2: him to be a phenom freshman who had a good
Speaker 2: year for a true freshman, has a bright future there,
Speaker 2: I'm sure, Like this is not just like oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he kind of plays like Mahomes. You can tell he
Speaker 2: likes him. He's like straight up trying to beat him.
Speaker 2: Like if Patrick Mahomes ends up missing one day, I'm
Speaker 2: blaming him. I don't know, I won't. I can't prove it,
Speaker 2: but like this guy, it's it's it's kind of I.
Speaker 5: Want to be weird.
Speaker 3: I want to be mad at I mean I am,
Speaker 3: because that is a grown ass man.
Speaker 2: But you've you've kind of made me realize that I
Speaker 2: sound like an a hole, because no, I'm not mad
Speaker 2: at him, Like it doesn't bother me. But to me,
Speaker 2: it's just so blatantly weird, and nobody else seems to
Speaker 2: acknowledge it, and it's just something that stood out to me.
Speaker 3: It seems like a pr move, you know, because it's
Speaker 3: good because one day that guy is gonna hit the
Speaker 3: transfer portal and you can be surprised. He's going to
Speaker 3: be like a hot commodity because everything's gonna want him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take That's a good shout, and that's it.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be his brand going forward. If nothing ever
Speaker 3: happens with him in the NFL, he's probably gonna try
Speaker 3: to make some money off of that or attach his
Speaker 3: self to Mahomes in some way. And Mahomes doesn't seem
Speaker 3: to have a problem though.
Speaker 2: Like I said, Mahomes, who I Mames one of those guys,
Speaker 2: just like Steph Curry at times went in the heat
Speaker 2: of the moment. I feel like they do a little
Speaker 2: too much wanting and maybe sometimes they get favorable, but
Speaker 2: like me feeling away negatively about Mahomes or Steph Curry
Speaker 2: is just a reminder that I'm a hater and you
Speaker 2: need to be a hater at times in sports. Yeah,
Speaker 2: those guys don't do any those guys are I think
Speaker 2: those guys are good dudes, especially to consider what Mahomes
Speaker 2: puts up with with his wife and his brother and
Speaker 2: his dad. Like, I think I think they're good dudes.
Speaker 2: They're good role models. And Mahomes was super classy and professional.
Speaker 2: And this is what this is, what actually put this
Speaker 2: on my radar, Austin, is that Mahomes was talking up
Speaker 2: the young man like maybe he's a talented guy. Man,
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm flattered. I think that's I
Speaker 2: think that's cool, like just being really humble about it.
Speaker 2: And the kid was The nineteen year old was asked
Speaker 2: about what what Mahomes said almost like he thought it
Speaker 2: was cool, and he played dumb like, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't know why, I don't know, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't, Like, if you're gonna be that way,
Speaker 2: you got to have parents, coaches, somebody in front of you,
Speaker 2: like read the room, bro. People know that you're obsessed,
Speaker 2: and it's cool because he's a star, but like it's
Speaker 2: just a different level of like glazing.
Speaker 5: As they say, I can't stand Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't eat stand Patrick Mahomes at all. But it's
Speaker 2: just because he's so good and I don't want the
Speaker 2: Chiefs to keep winning.
Speaker 3: His dad is annoying to after all the playoff, he
Speaker 3: keep dad loves the booze he does. He comes off
Speaker 3: as like and he probably was instrumental on his light,
Speaker 3: but he comes off of he's definitely loving right in
Speaker 3: the coattails of famous.
Speaker 1: They all are.
Speaker 2: They love it, they all are, no doubt right quick break,
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Speaker 2: You guys know, I'm not a big I told you
Speaker 2: so guy, unless you know I occasionally have the chance
Speaker 2: to say I told you so. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: this fits, but I've been telling people wake up, and
Speaker 2: there's no I don't. I don't get a ton of pushback,
Speaker 2: but I get some pushback on this. The acc is
Speaker 2: a lousy conference, folks. I mean, I don't say, like
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a jerk, Like it's one
Speaker 2: of those things like when Louisville is really lousy in basketball,
Speaker 2: like they were under Kenny Payne, I wouldn't really go
Speaker 2: to my way to like go there, but once we
Speaker 2: would talk about it, because you know, we talk about
Speaker 2: louis of basketball around here. It would be impossible for
Speaker 2: me to not just say what I think and say
Speaker 2: what I know, say what's real. But a lot of
Speaker 2: people just you know, you know, but you don't want
Speaker 2: to hear it. But what am I supposed to do? So, like,
Speaker 2: I don't have the same feeling about the ACC, meaning
Speaker 2: I'm not going to go to my way to like
Speaker 2: be critical of Louisville unless we're just being honest and
Speaker 2: you know, having to call it like it is. I
Speaker 2: have no affiliation with the ACC to where like I
Speaker 2: am when people dog Louisville, you know at times, especially
Speaker 2: if I feel like it's if it's not justified, Like
Speaker 2: I'm a fan, so I'm gonna feel a certain way
Speaker 2: and want to defend them. I have no feeling like
Speaker 2: that with the ACC. But I think because Louisville's an
Speaker 2: ACC member. There are some that like still kind of
Speaker 2: look at it that way, and I suppose I get it.
Speaker 2: I just I've never had any real emotion towards a
Speaker 2: conference because we've been everywhere since I've been a fan,
Speaker 2: and we've been successful at different levels of course throughout
Speaker 2: my entire life as a fan. So the AEC stinks,
Speaker 2: Like that's just acknowledge it. It doesn't mean that every team
Speaker 2: in the league stinks. It doesn't mean that, like you know,
Speaker 2: everybody like that they should just make the move to
Speaker 2: D two. But like, how can you watch how bad
Speaker 2: the basketball league is right now? How can you see
Speaker 2: that the football conference is? I mean where they go
Speaker 2: one and nine, they're one and nine in bowl games
Speaker 2: at this point, and they're zero to ten in against
Speaker 2: the spread because Syracuse didn't win a bowl game but
Speaker 2: they didn't cover. So like it's right in front of
Speaker 2: our face, Like this is bad, and you know you
Speaker 2: can do about it as a fan, but I just
Speaker 2: want to see them fix it. I want to see
Speaker 2: coaches be held accountable on basketball especially. I think from
Speaker 2: a football perspective, you just you just need to, like
Speaker 2: for football to be good you need Florida State to
Speaker 2: be up, You need Clemson to be up, need Miami
Speaker 2: to be up. And those are the teams that I
Speaker 2: think need to be up consistently for the for it
Speaker 2: to be a national thing, to where like the ACC's
Speaker 2: got a little got a little uh life again. And
Speaker 2: I think Louisville can be pretty good. In fact, Louisvill's
Speaker 2: been better than Miami consistently for the most part, and
Speaker 2: that speaks more to Miami than it does Louisll to
Speaker 2: be honest with you, but my point is if those
Speaker 2: three teams are usually up and they're pretty good and
Speaker 2: or you know, when I say pretty good, I mean
Speaker 2: like you know in a twelve team playoff world, you
Speaker 2: know they're alive for a good chunk of the season,
Speaker 2: and then Louisville can be a team that I feel
Speaker 2: like under Jeff Brohm, I think you can consistently find
Speaker 2: yourself as a top twenty five team. And let's be real,
Speaker 2: you would have been a top fifteen team right now
Speaker 2: as we speak, not playing in El Paso. If you
Speaker 2: beat Stanford, who who you really had to work hard
Speaker 2: to lose against? So and then if who else can
Speaker 2: be like I don't know. Syracuse is probably not sustainable,
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty impressed with Fran Brown as a head
Speaker 2: coach Pittsburgh g I don't think that's gonna work out
Speaker 2: long term because they ended the season so poorly. So,
Speaker 2: like the football side of it, like I think you
Speaker 2: can clearly be a lot better than you are, Like
Speaker 2: maybe Virginia Tech gets back one day, Like you could
Speaker 2: be a lot better than you are in football than
Speaker 2: you are right now. But like there's certain programs, let's
Speaker 2: be real, the ceilings not high. But in basketball, you
Speaker 2: got programs that like they used to carry the weight
Speaker 2: in the league and hoops and they're just having a
Speaker 2: rough stretch. Louisville, of course, is the biggest, is one
Speaker 2: of the biggest problems when it comes to that because
Speaker 2: of what happened in the last few years. So like
Speaker 2: I realize when I talk about about a SCEC basketball,
Speaker 2: like I'm aware Louisville is maybe the biggest factor in
Speaker 2: that a program. You know, when it comes to the
Speaker 2: teams in the ACC that have won national championships, there's
Speaker 2: what four that have won one in the last eleven years.
Speaker 2: Louis was one of them. There are I don't know
Speaker 2: how many that have been to a Final four in
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years, but LOUISLL is one of them.
Speaker 2: So like we still carry something that despite the past.
Speaker 2: Again I said this before. Who knows how good loisll
Speaker 2: was going to be under Pat Kelsey. The only time
Speaker 2: will tell, but Louis is always going to have to
Speaker 2: have a strong commitment to being good in basketball. There's
Speaker 2: other schools that like they may like when Boston College
Speaker 2: fires their coach, who they gonna go get, Like, who knows,
Speaker 2: maybe they get a guy that's really good, but like
Speaker 2: they don't have like the same expectations when they hire
Speaker 2: a coach. And to be honest, Louiville did have high expectations.
Speaker 2: In the end. It was somebody that a lot of
Speaker 2: people weren't thinking was a candidate. But so far, I
Speaker 2: think you can see it. Again, this is not me
Speaker 2: telling you it's going to be great, but like I
Speaker 2: can see why Josh Hurt felt like Pat Kelsey might
Speaker 2: really be what we needed around here, a guy that
Speaker 2: could utilize the resources that are here. So anytime I
Speaker 2: start talking about how bad the ACC is, like I
Speaker 2: know there's going to be people that just take it
Speaker 2: as if I'm insulting them in Louisville, and it's not
Speaker 2: that at all. The league, Like even if you don't
Speaker 2: like it, doesn't mean it's not true. Like the numbers
Speaker 2: have never been more in front of your face to
Speaker 2: tell you that the league stinks and it needs to
Speaker 2: be better. And I'm more worried about basketball than anything
Speaker 2: because basketball, you know, I guess I'm more sad that
Speaker 2: it's as bad as it is. That's the better way
Speaker 2: to put it. Because I still think the likelihood of
Speaker 2: like this league not getting better with some coaching changes,
Speaker 2: I think that would be a real surprise. But it's
Speaker 2: just in a really tough stretch right now. But if
Speaker 2: you wanted more evidence that the ACC is just in
Speaker 2: a bad way, the current NET rankings, which again that's
Speaker 2: the formula that the NCAA Selection Committee uses. It's similar
Speaker 2: to the Ken Palm, the Bart Torvik rankings that are
Speaker 2: out there. Those will cons of different formulas that'll you
Speaker 2: can reference, but the NET is the one the NAA
Speaker 2: created and they use it. And right now, the bottom
Speaker 2: ten programs from the power leagues meaning ACC SEC, Big ten,
Speaker 2: Big twelve in the Big East. Of the ten, worst
Speaker 2: six of them are in the ACC. In fact, wow, wow,
Speaker 2: four of them are in the bottom five. The five
Speaker 2: worst power teams Power five teams in college basketball are
Speaker 2: from the Atlantic Coast Conference, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Seaton Hall, Miami,
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. In fact, you've got four of the top five.
Speaker 2: In fact, he let me, let me, let me, let
Speaker 2: me make it even worse, You've got six. Let me different.
Speaker 2: Am I losing my mind here? Yeah? Cal is in
Speaker 2: the ACC. Unless I'm drunk, right, yep. Still sounds weird,
Speaker 2: So like it doesn't seem like, hey, that's an ACC team,
Speaker 2: but Cal, Syracuse, Georgia Tech, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College.
Speaker 2: That's so yeah, six of the top six of the
Speaker 2: worst ten are in the ACC. And that's not like
Speaker 2: an opinion, that's not a hater that's got biased towards
Speaker 2: the ACC. That's just a formula and the other formul
Speaker 2: like nobody's out to get the ACC. And this is
Speaker 2: what always bothered me, and I made it a bigger
Speaker 2: talking point that I needed to. But at the ACC
Speaker 2: Basketball media days that I went to the a CEC
Speaker 2: tip off, the noise was that they were they were
Speaker 2: victims like the media that were there, the coaches, the commissioner.
Speaker 2: Their their tone was more so that we've the the
Speaker 2: you know, the end. The committee needs to give us
Speaker 2: some more respect. They're biased against us, when in reality,
Speaker 2: nobody's biased against you, like this is who you are,
Speaker 2: and I just I was it was it really was
Speaker 2: alarming to me something that I think was at one
Speaker 2: time sacred ACC basketball folks. Instead of realizing we have
Speaker 2: like we're not what we once were, they're just like, well,
Speaker 2: they're picking on us. And look, I know there's been
Speaker 2: a big change in coaches and maybe these coaches, I
Speaker 2: mean like Rick, Rick got out and he didn't want
Speaker 2: to leave, and that led to you know, Mac and Mack. Look,
Speaker 2: let's be real, Mac would be thriving in the ACC
Speaker 2: right now. I'm biased because I love Mac and he's
Speaker 2: doing a fine job at Charleston and I'm not saying
Speaker 2: like he should still be the coach here now, but
Speaker 2: like when it fell apart for Mac, like Mac never
Speaker 2: even get to finish the ACC schedule in the one
Speaker 2: year that they were down, and you know, it fell
Speaker 2: apart and he left, So you know, like it started
Speaker 2: right around that time and Beheim leaving and it being
Speaker 2: left to Red Autrey, Hubert Davis taking Hubert Davis and
Speaker 2: Carolina is still a good team for sure, they played
Speaker 2: in the championship game just two years ago. But there's
Speaker 2: they're not the Carolina standard, which most aren't because you know,
Speaker 2: Carolina is Carolina. So they've they've to where now they're
Speaker 2: not even ranked. It's not even a quad one win
Speaker 2: if you get it on Wednesday. So again, here they
Speaker 2: are one of the best league, one of the best
Speaker 2: teams in the league, one of the last opportunities for
Speaker 2: Love to get a big win. But yet like their
Speaker 2: way off their standard this year. How many losses they have,
Speaker 2: like five or six. So you know, my point is this,
Speaker 2: like I think Shyer will do well there. I've really
Speaker 2: this year. You know, we'll see what he does in
Speaker 2: the tournament. But I feel like he's in a pretty
Speaker 2: good spot there where they're gonna have enough talent. And
Speaker 2: I said this not that long ago. Kind of felt weird, Sam,
Speaker 2: but I think he's a good coach. Like, I think
Speaker 2: he'll do well there. Building k shoes are different. But
Speaker 2: these dudes who like Bennett Bennett leaving and leaving leaving
Speaker 2: the job when he did, he clearly did it to
Speaker 2: get his assistant a job. So maybe these schools will
Speaker 2: show when they do have to go out and make
Speaker 2: a hire that wasn't something they were kind of forced
Speaker 2: to do, then they'll go out and get a good
Speaker 2: coach and basketball will be back. But like right now,
Speaker 2: it's in a bad way because anytime I mentioned the
Speaker 2: ACC being really down, people, well, look at all, look
Speaker 2: at all the call the legends they lost. Okay, should
Speaker 2: we just close down the league? Like I mean, can
Speaker 2: we not have life after these guys? Like you know,
Speaker 2: other leagues are getting better because they're hiring good coaches,
Speaker 2: and like you know, I hope the ACC does that,
Speaker 2: and maybe they will. There's not been a guy that
Speaker 2: got a job at an ACC program that that, you know,
Speaker 2: since these guys left that. I'm like, man, this is
Speaker 2: a song that they don't care about basketball anymore. Because again,
Speaker 2: like you knew Roy Williams is going to leave it
Speaker 2: to Hubert, you knew Shire was gonna was gonna be
Speaker 2: the guy after Duke before uh, after k before he retired.
Speaker 2: And I think Shire has done a good job. But
Speaker 2: the other schools like Miami, Florida State Virginia, Syracuse. They've
Speaker 2: got to They've got to figure out, like Syracuse is
Speaker 2: the most important to me because I think they can
Speaker 2: always be good, but they've only ever had Beheim do
Speaker 2: where you really don't know. So I bring all this
Speaker 2: up to say, the acc on the floor, on the
Speaker 2: court terrible right now, not in a good way. Anybody
Speaker 2: trying to commitce you otherwise is just in denial. But
Speaker 2: they're also just doing like King Galleran way, like counmbarrassing.
Speaker 2: Was it that Florida State and Clemson were trying to
Speaker 2: sue to get out of this league and then Florida
Speaker 2: State out? I mean, it was nice to see Florida
Speaker 2: State fall on their face, but like that's not a
Speaker 2: good look for your league. It's embarrassing, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you. I mean they're more embarrassed than anybody. But still,
Speaker 2: and then you've got Laryonnega leaving mid season and blaming
Speaker 2: it on you know, the new way of college hoops,
Speaker 2: which you know it helped you the first year, and
Speaker 2: then now you've got this situation at Florida State, like
Speaker 2: this is really a product of kind of where we are.
Speaker 2: But still like the first program to have it come
Speaker 2: out like this where these guys are filing a lawsuit
Speaker 2: because they didn't get paid what they were told they
Speaker 2: were going to be paid by their head coach. To
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I've talked to a couple people
Speaker 2: today this happening, which we'll get to it. On the
Speaker 2: other side, there's six former players that are finding a
Speaker 2: one and a half million dollar a lawsuit against Leonard
Speaker 2: Hamilton for him telling them they were going to be
Speaker 2: making a certain amount of money and they didn't get in.
Speaker 2: They didn't get it. But and that's again leave it
Speaker 2: to Florida State and the ACC to be the ones
Speaker 2: that kind of get this public embarrassment. However, there are
Speaker 2: so many programs around the country right now, high level
Speaker 2: programs that saw this and felt, uh, oh, somebody broke
Speaker 2: the ice. A domino fell because there's a lot of
Speaker 2: dudes that didn't get the money they were supposed to
Speaker 2: get and they just you know, felt like it was
Speaker 2: you know, they probably just took it on the chin. Well,
Speaker 2: this lawsuit, I think is going to open up more lawsuits.
Speaker 2: There are guys that have set out games for high
Speaker 2: major programs this year and last year because if you know,
Speaker 2: dealing with something. Nah, it was a mispayment. It was
Speaker 2: it was checking receipts. Why have I not been paid
Speaker 2: what I was told i'd be paid? And it's it's
Speaker 2: I don't really know how you fix it. But like again,
Speaker 2: of all programs to have it be the one that gets,
Speaker 2: you know, it gets the embarrassment of it. Like it's
Speaker 2: a terrible look for Florida State, right, Like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like how does Florida State expect Leonard Hamilton recruit at all?
Speaker 2: Or or how can you tell somebody come here with
Speaker 2: this nil package when you got a lawsuit from six
Speaker 2: dudes who were told they'd make a quarter of a
Speaker 2: million dollars and didn't get anything, Like they're now set
Speaker 2: up to be even worse. They have to fire Lonald Hamilton.
Speaker 2: How can you how can he survive this? And really
Speaker 2: he's done for saying he's going to give him money
Speaker 2: when he's not doing it, and yet he doesn't know
Speaker 2: where the money's coming from. But at the end of day,
Speaker 2: this guy's just trying to survive in this new world
Speaker 2: of college basketball. But I just I don't know. I
Speaker 2: sometimes I'm looking like like I was about the Mahomes
Speaker 2: cosplay with this in the acc Auten. I'm looking around, like,
Speaker 2: is anybody realizing, like what happened to.
Speaker 5: The acc here?
Speaker 2: Like this is bad? I quick break will come back
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Speaker 2: So very little time left here, but I will pick
Speaker 2: up where I left off. I kind of just started
Speaker 2: ranting about the acc assuming everybody had the full details
Speaker 2: of what the big news is today and I didn't
Speaker 2: mention it, but not really like the actual specifics. But
Speaker 2: six I'm sorry, five former Florida State players, including a
Speaker 2: former Louisville cardinal, Josh Nickelberry, he has uh filed they've
Speaker 2: filed lawsuits against Leonard Hamilton, specifically because they have proof
Speaker 2: that he kept telling them over and over that they'll
Speaker 2: be paid the money that he told them they'd make
Speaker 2: when they came to Florida State for nil. However, they
Speaker 2: never got paid. And you know that's that's happening in
Speaker 2: a lot of places unfortunately. I mean, I've never believed
Speaker 2: that these guys make anywhere close to what is being alleged.
Speaker 2: I don't, I never have, and I can't prove that,
Speaker 2: but I just I know there's people that have a
Speaker 2: lot more money than I'll ever have to where if
Speaker 2: they can give a quarter of a million dollars to
Speaker 2: a player and it's nothing, then you know, maybe they will,
Speaker 2: but it just doesn't make any sense at all to
Speaker 2: do it. And I just, you know, that's just my thoughts.
Speaker 2: But these guys were all apparently told they'd make two
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. We're talking about Josh Nickleberry,
Speaker 2: Darren Green, Junior, Primo Spears, Cameron Fletcher, Deontay Green, and
Speaker 2: Jalen Warley. So two guys are no longer eligible, Green
Speaker 2: and Nickleberry, and then Primo Spears transferred to UTSA. Cameron
Speaker 2: Fletcher's transferred. He went to Kentucky by the way initially,
Speaker 2: but he's now at Xavier. And then Deyontay Green. I
Speaker 2: don't know where he ended up. But jamaln Worley actually
Speaker 2: plays for Gonzaga. So Hamilton kept telling people that his
Speaker 2: business partners would be the ones that would actually get
Speaker 2: them taken care of when it comes to nil, which
Speaker 2: that is that's legal, you can do that. For example,
Speaker 2: Kenny Payne, you guys remember hearing the story about he
Speaker 2: left money on the table from the Fibo two circle
Speaker 2: that they raised. It's because that idiot, you know, felt
Speaker 2: of all people to feel like arrogant. I mean, he
Speaker 2: didn't want that Fibo two circle money because he would
Speaker 2: just use money from like his rich business partners who
Speaker 2: he's you know who, they're probably friends, not necessarily business partners,
Speaker 2: but all you know, people he rubs elbows with, and
Speaker 2: they've got a lot of money. So that's how Lol
Speaker 2: was able to pay just by winning four four games
Speaker 2: in a season and they could go out and get
Speaker 2: get a class that, to be honest with you, was
Speaker 2: pretty good. So you know he's not paying it. He's
Speaker 2: not allowed. He's allowed to donate. That's a change meaning Hamilton,
Speaker 2: but like he was claiming it was coming from his
Speaker 2: business partners. These guys actually boycotted a practice in nearly
Speaker 2: boycotted a game and because they were like all right,
Speaker 2: like what's going on here? So you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know how Leonard Hamilton can survive this in any way.
Speaker 2: I also didn't really I mean I knew he was
Speaker 2: older and he's looked the same for like fifty years.
Speaker 2: I saw a picture of him when he coached with
Speaker 2: Eddie Sutton, and I think he actually might have coach
Speaker 2: with Joey Hall two at Kentucky and he looked the
Speaker 2: same then as he does now. So you know, I
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna win their lawsuit because there's no contract,
Speaker 2: But still like this is a bad look for Leonard
Speaker 2: Hamilton in Florida State that really the issue is more
Speaker 2: so where we are in college sports. But to be
Speaker 2: the first one to have this happen, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: the one people remember, I really do. I think that's
Speaker 2: gonna be the case. All right, It's Coffee and Company
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