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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Dan Caplis Show. You got well Kuny
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Reem sitting in the driver's seat today and
Speaker 2: it's a pleasure to be here, especially with our guests
Speaker 2: that we have on the line. We have us Border
Speaker 2: Zar Tom Homan on the line, and he's going to
Speaker 2: break down a little bit of what happened yesterday in Boulder,
Speaker 2: and we're also going to talk a little bit about
Speaker 2: whether or not Colorado is in fact a sanctuary a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state. Mister Homan, thanks for being with us and
Speaker 2: give us a little bit of your thoughts on what
Speaker 2: happened yesterday in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a couple of things. First, we're seeing an
Speaker 3: increase on the threats against Jewish population. But President Trump,
Speaker 3: as you can see, sorry take an accent on college campuses.
Speaker 3: But you know, the whole issue of overstay pieces has
Speaker 3: become a problem over the last couple of decades. No
Speaker 3: one's really addressive. But ICE is going to I mean
Speaker 3: it's not a coinctance. But just last week we had
Speaker 3: a meeting talking about we're going to increase the target
Speaker 3: profile for overstays. You know, we seven day one, we're
Speaker 3: going to constory on public safety threats and ask the
Speaker 3: security threats. I'd be the priority. However, we're going to
Speaker 3: open we're opening that aperture now to include positives, those
Speaker 3: who've had a hearing, had due process, we're ordering move
Speaker 3: and didn't leave. And we're going to add overstay visas
Speaker 3: to it because overstay visa has become a big issue.
Speaker 3: Every year we get at least at least sixty thousand
Speaker 3: people over steer their visas, so we're adding them as
Speaker 3: a target list and you can see a ramp up
Speaker 3: that or really quick.
Speaker 2: Well again, I can't I can't thank you enough for
Speaker 2: being on the show. And you know, what happened in
Speaker 2: Boulder yesterday was obviously a tragic incident, but you know
Speaker 2: that's the thing you've been warning us about many times
Speaker 2: over since you took over the helm as the borders
Speaker 2: are for the United States, and that's you know, we
Speaker 2: got to worry about these folks that are in our
Speaker 2: country unvetted and and undocumented, and no one knows where
Speaker 2: they're where they're at exactly. So transitioning from that, I
Speaker 2: live in the state of Colorado that I know has
Speaker 2: drawn a lot of fire from from your folks, especially
Speaker 2: the Ice uh and the ICE agents right here on
Speaker 2: the ground. But my governor, Governor Jared Poulis repeatedly says
Speaker 2: that Colorado is not a sanctuary state. And I'm just curious,
Speaker 2: do you agree with him on that on that particular point.
Speaker 3: No, I don't agree in that point. Here's a game
Speaker 3: they play, right. They're saying, well, if ICE comes to
Speaker 3: the criminal warrant and we have a very bad guy,
Speaker 3: will we'll we'll work with Ice. That's not what the
Speaker 3: ferniv law says. So Ferger law says, first of all,
Speaker 3: we don't need a criminal law says when we process
Speaker 3: for a ministry and warrant and the ICE officer issues,
Speaker 3: not a judge, it's to turn over. That's what the
Speaker 3: Studal statue says. But you know, they and they say
Speaker 3: that they work with Ice, but they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 3: We don't have they don't have a guess access to
Speaker 3: the county jails. Most of the County of Colorado, few
Speaker 3: the sheriffs are working behind the scenes with us. But
Speaker 3: overall the states, the sanctuaries takes. He knows that. Look
Speaker 3: at Denver mayor and him went at it, you know,
Speaker 3: just after the election. You know, he was going to
Speaker 3: put roadblocks up coming to Denvery's anglette ice in there
Speaker 3: and I had a threatened to put him in jail
Speaker 3: before he back down. So you know, well, when we
Speaker 3: all over Colorado, I made a promise sanctuary cities across
Speaker 3: the country, they don't let us in the jail the
Speaker 3: rest of the bad guy. That means we want to
Speaker 3: send people to the neighborhoods look for him, and if
Speaker 3: we can't find them other homes, then we'll find them
Speaker 3: at place appointments. So sanctuary cities don't get exactly what
Speaker 3: they don't want. More agents in the neighborhood, more agents
Speaker 3: and worst enforcement operations. We're going to get the bad guy,
Speaker 3: whether you help us or not. And when we find
Speaker 3: the bad guy in the community and the work site,
Speaker 3: if they're with others or in the country legally but
Speaker 3: not the criminal target, they're coming to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You guys have been very prolific with that in
Speaker 2: other places in the country, and I welcome it to Colorado.
Speaker 2: I am one of those sheriffs that does work with eyes,
Speaker 2: as you probably well know, but there are plenty of
Speaker 2: places here in Colorado that do not. To that point,
Speaker 2: we had a young lady that was killed here just
Speaker 2: not too long ago, by the name of Caitlin Weaver.
Speaker 2: She was killed by a fifteen year old, a legal
Speaker 2: immigrant that crashed into a car and ended up getting
Speaker 2: the severe punishment of probation when she went to court
Speaker 2: in Arapahoe County. Luckily enough, over the last few days,
Speaker 2: some of your ice agents were able to pick that
Speaker 2: young individual up and are working to deport him from
Speaker 2: the country. I don't even care if you comment on it.
Speaker 2: I just want to be able to tell you thank
Speaker 2: you for the work that your people are doing to
Speaker 2: try to bring.
Speaker 3: Justice to that FA's sad thing though, if that was
Speaker 3: if that was a US citizen, you know they got probation,
Speaker 3: no ABS. When a lot of judges are given these
Speaker 3: illegal alien to lighter sentences so they don't come into
Speaker 3: the attension advice. Matter of fact, if you're a resident
Speaker 3: alien and you get commit to a felony, you can
Speaker 3: lose your green card, but you've got to have these
Speaker 3: three at least two a year in jail. There's some
Speaker 3: of these sanctuary states that you know they'll finally give
Speaker 3: them thinking three hundred and sixty days because they know
Speaker 3: had three hundred sixty five days when pour so I
Speaker 3: appreciate me. I appreciate your work. And look at ICE.
Speaker 3: We're out there. We're out there. You know, the ICE
Speaker 3: agents are back to work. There's they're forcing the laws
Speaker 3: congresson acted and they're upolding the olth they took on
Speaker 3: like the last four years. They're excited Marile's hide. They're
Speaker 3: getting to do their job, making it the street safe again.
Speaker 2: Well, I know what the big the one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 2: There's talks of funding for up to ten thousand. I
Speaker 2: believe ICE agents, and I couldn't welcome more of them
Speaker 2: to Colorado if I tried. So I know you're going
Speaker 2: to be directing some of that, So send them our way.
Speaker 2: We can definitely use them.
Speaker 3: And like I said, we're gonna we're gonna flood his
Speaker 3: own with sanctuary states. So you're gonna expect the big
Speaker 3: shriff right there in Colorado. But you guys think you're
Speaker 3: like you know yourself. They've got a good sheriff's stay.
Speaker 3: We get a few, but uh, you know Denver. You
Speaker 3: know we're gonna be all over Denver, Denver, and we
Speaker 3: know this is a huge deal of alien popular is
Speaker 3: there more agents we have, the more ands rass and
Speaker 3: the President Trunkeys has promised American people on running the
Speaker 3: biggest deportation now psist country ever seen.
Speaker 2: So something that you've educated many of US sheriffs too,
Speaker 2: and I think law enforcement across the country is the
Speaker 2: role that a lot of these NGOs play, non governmental
Speaker 2: organizations play in the process of I guess inbounding a
Speaker 2: lot of these illegal immigrants into the interior United States,
Speaker 2: specifically Catholic charities has been targeted a few times. And
Speaker 2: I'd just like for you to maybe explain how these
Speaker 2: NGOs used federal funding or had been using federal funding
Speaker 2: to help facilitate moving these folks inward to the to
Speaker 2: the inner parts of the United States against kind of
Speaker 2: your mission as a as a as the borders are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in my opinion, these NGOs that I think they're
Speaker 3: complicit and anyways, them and they made billions with the
Speaker 3: bi billions of dollars in US government funding to help
Speaker 3: people get based in this country. And you know, they're
Speaker 3: implicit in these people not being detained. And there's a
Speaker 3: reason they're doing that. If you're detained and you get
Speaker 3: a hearing from a judge for integration, you get hearing
Speaker 3: it in forty days. But if you're released to the evengels,
Speaker 3: you're not in custody advice, you're not detained by it.
Speaker 3: He raised an nng O. You're put on what we
Speaker 3: call the nine detained doctet. Your hearing is gonna be
Speaker 3: three five seven years down the road. So they're very complicit.
Speaker 3: Here's what they did. And they did that even though
Speaker 3: there's thousands of empty beds that ICE had at about
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty bucks to night. They get int
Speaker 3: the NGOs pay five hundred bucks a night for hotel rooms. Well,
Speaker 3: just because they're on nine detained doctor. Because what they're
Speaker 3: hoping for, here's a plan. Let's go Anny tape. Doctor
Speaker 3: will take three five seven years in the hearing. By then,
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll have a democratic president. He can word all
Speaker 3: these people on MST. That's why they're going nuts right now,
Speaker 3: arrest a lot of people, and we're ruining their plants
Speaker 3: because hopefully, excuse me, hopefully a lot more. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to be around when the next Democratic president comes in.
Speaker 3: So that's right, we've got to push hard. We're ruined
Speaker 3: their plans and you know, just flooding the country illegal amiens.
Speaker 3: And some day they gave me the AMC taking their
Speaker 3: off future Democratic boarders. They don't like what agents doing
Speaker 3: right now, we're in the middle of their plans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're definitely disrupting the plan of that resettlement into
Speaker 2: the interior United States. Kind of switching gears a little
Speaker 2: bit here. Recently there was some news about a about
Speaker 2: the Attorney General, the US Attorney General filing suit against
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado over sanctuary laws here. And I
Speaker 2: know that they're doing that in a few other states,
Speaker 2: and New York comes to mind, I believe the state
Speaker 2: of Washington maybe the other What do you see the
Speaker 2: success of those lawsuits? And you know, kind of what
Speaker 2: what's the game plan there?
Speaker 3: Well, so hold account for harboring, concealing. I said for
Speaker 3: a long time when I was life dressed, I got
Speaker 3: beat up by the left. I made a statement one
Speaker 3: day saying, you know, when I was a special agent,
Speaker 3: I a long time ago, I arrested US citizens for
Speaker 3: harboring and I will go alien in their home or
Speaker 3: harboring them in their placement appointment, annoyingly harboring, concealing illegal alien,
Speaker 3: A nice a family. So I said, wait a minute,
Speaker 3: and if I can rest you a citizen that harbor
Speaker 3: them their home, why can't I pursue Why can't we
Speaker 3: prosecute a sanctuary city person who refuses to entry into
Speaker 3: the jail. You know, as a policy and as mayor
Speaker 3: whoever says you're not allowed to entering the jail because
Speaker 3: you know, and I know, when you run something, you
Speaker 3: wrest somebody, you run through, you run the finger prints
Speaker 3: fan inc I see it automatically bounces against the HS
Speaker 3: databases so that when it comes back, So now I
Speaker 3: know that it will go alien time homing. Just got
Speaker 3: booked in at Drango County Jail for you know, larsity whatever.
Speaker 3: And we know that because the fingerprints came back.
Speaker 2: So we got.
Speaker 3: Biometric biographic information to that guy who we have a
Speaker 3: prior history with.
Speaker 2: It's looked is looked in.
Speaker 3: That jail right now. And if we go to that
Speaker 3: jail and talk to him. We're not allowed into jail.
Speaker 3: Is that not harboring and concealing Ami from Ice?
Speaker 2: I totally there.
Speaker 3: You're not giving us access to him. What Pam Bonney
Speaker 3: is doing? Okay, well, at what point do these Thanks
Speaker 3: Curious City if there's just cross that line of harboring?
Speaker 3: So uh, we're going we're going to test it out
Speaker 3: in the courts. We think it's worth worth giving a
Speaker 3: shot because you know, as I can't tell you how
Speaker 3: many how many child like in Massachusetts. And I got
Speaker 3: angry at Seapack speech because earlier that day I read
Speaker 3: about nine nine nine people convicted of raping a child,
Speaker 3: sexuallest kind of with a child that were released from
Speaker 3: county jails in Massachusetts right than given to Ice. And
Speaker 3: we're like, one of the guys we went and found
Speaker 3: two years later? Now, how many children here attacking two years?
Speaker 3: So we're gonna take We're gonna take the Thanksburius City
Speaker 3: stuff on, and I think we're gonna win it.
Speaker 2: I think you're right. You know, like I said, you've
Speaker 2: given all of us a huge warning as the borders are.
Speaker 2: Just to remind everybody who has borders are Tom Holman
Speaker 2: on the line. You've you've warned us all that this
Speaker 2: stuff is going to have consequences, and we're starting to
Speaker 2: see the effects of that in Colorado. I shouldn't even
Speaker 2: say starting. We're feeling the effects of that in Colorado
Speaker 2: from yesterday and Boulder to daily down in Denver and
Speaker 2: around the state. I guess I'll give you one more
Speaker 2: opportunity here to leave us with a parting shot for
Speaker 2: your warning to the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3: It's probably be out in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I was out Denver once.
Speaker 3: I'll be back many times. I'm gonna bring a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of agents with me. We got a big illego
Speaker 3: any pop place and need to take off the streets.
Speaker 3: And the people say, well for the starts to deportation operas,
Speaker 3: that's kind of it. That's kind of a racist thing
Speaker 3: to do. And notice, and we just went to four
Speaker 3: years of historic illego immigration or nine out of ten
Speaker 3: people that came across the border, crame and sign them
Speaker 3: nine out of ten, based ten years of court at
Speaker 3: at nine out of ten would end up with an
Speaker 3: order removal. If we don't execute those orders, if we
Speaker 3: don't follow the judges orders. Then what the hell are
Speaker 3: we doing? They shut down immigration court obviously it doesn't
Speaker 3: need any anymore, take the board off the border because
Speaker 3: sells immediate. There's no kind that's the question. No that
Speaker 3: nine out of ten who had their due process a
Speaker 3: great tax pairish pence get already removed. They're going to
Speaker 3: be removed it now. We sent a message to the
Speaker 3: whole world into country really so crime. Don't worry about
Speaker 3: it either go to court, no on board to court,
Speaker 3: but lose your case. No one's secking for you. We'll
Speaker 3: never fix this problem. There has to be consequences to
Speaker 3: law breaking and that's exactly what we're doing.
Speaker 2: Well, Tom, I can't thank you more for being on
Speaker 2: the show. Again, this is US Borders are Tom Holman again,
Speaker 2: Thanks for everything you're doing. Thanks for the state of Colorado,
Speaker 2: even though some of the people here don't welcome you.
Speaker 2: We got to go to break but again, thanks for
Speaker 2: being on the show. You're listening to the Dankapla Show
Speaker 2: with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve Rings filling in.
Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Steve RINGMS sitting in the driver's seat today and you
Speaker 2: know we we didn't get a chance to properly introduce
Speaker 2: the show at the top of the hour, but that
Speaker 2: was because we had the freaking borders are on the radio.
Speaker 2: How about that Tom Holman Us borders are on with
Speaker 2: this in that first segment, And you know, honestly, I
Speaker 2: probably could have kept that guy on for the entire show, if, if,
Speaker 2: if his schedule allowed. But you might be surprised by this,
Speaker 2: but he's got a few important things to take care of.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you could hear it in
Speaker 2: his voice if you're out there in radio land, But
Speaker 2: I think the guy's getting a little tired, so letting
Speaker 2: him go get some sleep and refuel for tomorrow is
Speaker 2: probably the most expedient thing to do. But I'd love
Speaker 2: to hear what you think about what Tom had to say,
Speaker 2: what mister Holman had to say. And you know, obviously
Speaker 2: we're going to transition into talking about what happened in
Speaker 2: Boulder over the weekend. But you can text in five
Speaker 2: seven seven three nine, start your text with Dan or
Speaker 2: call in at three O three seven one three eight
Speaker 2: two five five, which I would much more prefer love
Speaker 2: to have the conversation to give and take with anybody
Speaker 2: that wants to call in. But you know, what happened
Speaker 2: over the weekend in Boulder is just it's tragic. You know,
Speaker 2: we've been talking about the effects of illegal immigration, and
Speaker 2: I think when when we have those conversations, a lot
Speaker 2: of people assume, well, we're talking about people flooding in
Speaker 2: across the southern border and using up our resources and
Speaker 2: maybe not paying into Social Security properly or getting paid
Speaker 2: under the table, all those things that are problematic, you know,
Speaker 2: using our health resources and not necessarily refunding those through
Speaker 2: paying taxes. That's problematic. But these are the issues that
Speaker 2: what happened in Boulder over the weekend, that's what borders
Speaker 2: our Tom Holman's warning us about for quite some time now.
Speaker 2: While this Mohammed Sulliman flew into the country from Egypt,
Speaker 2: I think in twenty twenty two, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: there haven't been plenty of encounters of that same kind
Speaker 2: down at our southern border. I've been down on the
Speaker 2: border several times through the Federation of American Immigration Reform,
Speaker 2: They've sponsored some border schools, and I've had the opportunity
Speaker 2: to see exactly what was coming across that border during
Speaker 2: the Biden administration, and I can tell you that this
Speaker 2: one guy from Egypt is just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2: And you know, we know about the incident in Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Where the two uh Jewish folks were shot
Speaker 2: and killed in execution style murder only because they were Jewish.
Speaker 2: And we know that these people were targeted on the
Speaker 2: Pearl Street mall only because they were Jewish, you know,
Speaker 2: when you're chanting free Palestine at the same time. I
Speaker 2: don't know how you question anybody's motives at that point.
Speaker 2: It was an obvious terror attack. And our question has
Speaker 2: to be, now, how you know, how open are we
Speaker 2: to these types of attacks since we've allowed our border
Speaker 2: to just go unfettered for the last four years. Again,
Speaker 2: call in give me your opinion three o three seven
Speaker 2: one three eight two five five, or you can text
Speaker 2: in at five seven seven three nine. Start your text
Speaker 2: with Dan or Sheriff or whatever. We'll try to read
Speaker 2: all those on the air once they start coming in.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's just one of those things
Speaker 2: where we live in an environment now where you want
Speaker 2: to believe that you can walk out on the on
Speaker 2: the mall, you can express your political views and not
Speaker 2: be accosted for doing so, you know, not even necessarily
Speaker 2: be threatened. But then we get this situation where we
Speaker 2: have this idiot strap on a weed sprayer on his back,
Speaker 2: a plastic weed sprayer that needs to be made known,
Speaker 2: and fill it with gasoline and another chemical called xylene
Speaker 2: in order to make a flammable mixture, and then he
Speaker 2: decides to light that on fire and use it as
Speaker 2: a flamethrower while he's throwing molotov cocktails and leaves. I've
Speaker 2: heard as many as sixteen molotov cocktails behind. Because his
Speaker 2: plan didn't go quite the way he hoped it would.
Speaker 2: And you have to thank God that that's the case,
Speaker 2: because had that plan worked out totally, well, you know,
Speaker 2: we're probably dealing with way more injuries or even fatalities.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad his plan. I'm glad it wasn't a
Speaker 2: very good plan. But nonetheless, we have eight people that
Speaker 2: are injured too, very seriously injured. And you heard during
Speaker 2: one of the news breaks, you know, he's being charged
Speaker 2: with eight eight counts of attempted murder. I think we
Speaker 2: have a caller on the line. I don't have a
Speaker 2: name for him, but we'll go to that next caller,
Speaker 2: James and Boulder, what do you have to say?
Speaker 5: You know, I've lived here since nineteen seventy two, okay
Speaker 5: here as a very young guy, like seventeen years old
Speaker 5: going to college. Sure, and and you know, it was
Speaker 5: fun and everything was nice and things have been gone
Speaker 5: well for years. But I agree with what's been said before.
Speaker 5: It's getting more and more. What's the words, not friendly,
Speaker 5: not with not friendly to people that are Republicans are
Speaker 5: believe like things should be a little bit different. So
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm astonished that the local people are the
Speaker 5: local news here doesn't even want to say a word
Speaker 5: about what's going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't it crazy? And how we don't want to
Speaker 2: call it terrorism either? We dance around that term.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 5: And you know, if anyone wants to listen to what
Speaker 5: John Caldera said before that, sure, I'm actually I'm older
Speaker 5: than he is, and it's like, no, he has it right,
Speaker 5: and I don't get it. And it's like it's getting
Speaker 5: you know, the traffic's getting worse and worse, and things
Speaker 5: are getting worse. But it's like I don't understand what's
Speaker 5: going on. It used to be pretty nice when I
Speaker 5: got here and now it's like I'm a little too
Speaker 5: old to move. But it's like I don't get it anymore.
Speaker 2: Well, James, let me ask you, do you feel do
Speaker 2: you feel safe being who you are when you walk
Speaker 2: around Boulder? And we're going to break, so I don't
Speaker 2: have to be a quick answer, but do you feel
Speaker 2: safe walking around Boulder?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with it. I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: allowed to character build weapon. I don't do it. But
Speaker 5: it's like, but it's like it's no big deal. Boler's
Speaker 5: like it's.
Speaker 2: Weird, you know. Okay, we got a hard break here, James,
Speaker 2: stick with us. We're going to cut to break. You
Speaker 2: listen to the Dan Cafley Show here with Well County
Speaker 2: Sheriff Steve Raims is your guest host.
Speaker 4: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2: They while Dan's off at court and boy, we're getting
Speaker 2: the text rolling in for sure, and keep them coming.
Speaker 2: We'll get to him as soon as we can. The
Speaker 2: text number here is five seven seven three nine. Started
Speaker 2: out with Dan or sheriff, And when we went to break,
Speaker 2: we were commenting a little bit or getting some reactions
Speaker 2: to having borders. Our Tom Homan on at the start
Speaker 2: of the show and some of the comments he made,
Speaker 2: and boy, the call lines of lit up too, So
Speaker 2: we went to break. We had James from Boulder. We'll
Speaker 2: finish up with James. Are you still there with us, buddy?
Speaker 2: James going once, going twice? Okay, I guess James dropped
Speaker 2: off somewhere. Let me read a couple of these texts,
Speaker 2: then we'll get to our next caller. One here, says Dan,
Speaker 2: For those that are unaware of what happened in Paris
Speaker 2: over the weekend, what happened in Boulder is only a
Speaker 2: small sliver of what we are in for in the
Speaker 2: US if we don't fix the immigration issues. A decent
Speaker 2: portion of those allowed in our country from February of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five have no desire
Speaker 2: to assimilate into the US. They want to take over.
Speaker 2: That's very true. I mean that's what we saw with
Speaker 2: this individual who came in and attacked the people down
Speaker 2: in Boulder. I mean, he had no desire to become
Speaker 2: a US citizen, even though he tried to claim asylum.
Speaker 2: His goal here was to cause hate and discontent, which
Speaker 2: she obviously was somewhat successful at one more text before
Speaker 2: we get to our next callery. This one's pretty good,
Speaker 2: said Steve. You just admitted to working with ICE on
Speaker 2: the air. Aren't you afraid of being fine under the
Speaker 2: new state laws? No, I'm not. Senate Bill two seventy six.
Speaker 2: It did put some it did reaffirm some restrictions on
Speaker 2: the way that a jail can interact with ICE, but
Speaker 2: some of the worst part of that bill was actually
Speaker 2: taken out, so I still have the ability to work
Speaker 2: with ICE in the way that was constrained under House
Speaker 2: Bill eleven twenty four from twenty nineteen. And our relationship
Speaker 2: with ICE is still as strong as it was before
Speaker 2: two seventy six was signed. And I continue to have
Speaker 2: a good partnership with those guys, and I think they're
Speaker 2: doing God's work. Right now, we have Ryan from Roxboro.
Speaker 2: He wants to comment a little bit about the Palestinian supporters. Ryan,
Speaker 2: are you still with us? Mister Ryan? Maybe not? I
Speaker 2: don't know, Zach. Maybe these guys didn't want to stick
Speaker 2: around through the through the break here, so we'll go
Speaker 2: to a yeah, Ryan, are you there?
Speaker 4: Weird?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 7: Anyway, I just wanted to comment real quick on the
Speaker 7: pro Palestinian crowd, right, And I do think a legal
Speaker 7: immigration is a big deal in this country and we
Speaker 7: need to take care of this. But you know, my
Speaker 7: concern here in particularly with the pro Palestinian crowd, is
Speaker 7: that you know, this is the same group of people
Speaker 7: that were firebombing teslas, who are executing Israeli official Jewish
Speaker 7: people who are executing CEOs, whose protests that college campuses
Speaker 7: are intended to intimidate. My question is, I don't know
Speaker 7: how plugged you are into TikTok or Reddit, but they
Speaker 7: seem to have very large voices, and the moderators on
Speaker 7: those platforms don't care to, I guess, police their actions
Speaker 7: or what they're saying on those on those websites. And
Speaker 7: so for me, it's like the writing is on the
Speaker 7: wall here of kind of where these people are going.
Speaker 7: And this is homegrown terrorism in my mind. So if
Speaker 7: I don't see the Trump administration going after hate speech
Speaker 7: of this caliber online, then they're not really serious about anything.
Speaker 7: They're not really serious about tackling what we're going up
Speaker 7: against in this country, And in my opinion, we're kind
Speaker 7: of in a wartime period and it's a domestic terrorism
Speaker 7: that the left is always accusing the right of but
Speaker 7: it's coming to fruition. We've had a lot of events
Speaker 7: already happening this year.
Speaker 4: What's next, Well, that's.
Speaker 2: A great question. And you know I've said many times
Speaker 2: over none of us want to experience another nine to
Speaker 2: eleven event. But it feels like we've we've imported the
Speaker 2: folks that could perpetrate something like that, and they don't
Speaker 2: have to do it all at one time. They can
Speaker 2: do it and you know, smaller increments like what we're
Speaker 2: seeing so far. This this attack on Boulder is extremely
Speaker 2: threatening and you know, you get you get one of
Speaker 2: those every week or every few days, and yeah, it
Speaker 2: definitely puts a freeze on the country. And I agree
Speaker 2: with you on the social media stuff. I'm not a
Speaker 2: TikTok user for for a litany of reasons, but I
Speaker 2: think that just screams to the idea that you have
Speaker 2: this unfettered platform where people can you know, they can
Speaker 2: basically plan and and and spin each other up that
Speaker 2: in a way that kind of, like you said, it
Speaker 2: goes unchecked. At some point, I think this administration has
Speaker 2: to crack down. And I hope that you're seeing the
Speaker 2: people at the FBI and other the other three letter
Speaker 2: agencies that are focusing on that and trying to figure
Speaker 2: out a plan of action. But I mean, they got
Speaker 2: a lot of work ahead of them, a ton we'll
Speaker 2: have to see.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm to convinced that it's just.
Speaker 7: Illegals in the country that are the I agree with
Speaker 7: a lot of ground, which is white liberals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you. There's that radicalization that's happening
Speaker 2: from people who who flat out don't understand what they're supporting.
Speaker 2: They've got an ideology in their head that has been
Speaker 2: brainwashed into them, and I think they're going blindly into that.
Speaker 2: But Ryan, thank you for the call, and thank you
Speaker 2: for waiting with us through the break there. We really
Speaker 2: appreciate you calling in. We'll get to a couple more
Speaker 2: texts here. Here's one from Boulder says, I feel totally
Speaker 2: safe and bolder, but I'm not marching in a demonstration.
Speaker 2: It's true Colorado isn't as safe as it used to be.
Speaker 2: But solutions offered imposed by both sides or tired old
Speaker 2: ones that have never worked. There's a lot of truth
Speaker 2: to that. It says, does, why does and has America
Speaker 2: had the worst crime out of all the developed nations
Speaker 2: in the world where I'm standing, Almost everything that's been done,
Speaker 2: we're on drugs, war on crime, lock them all up,
Speaker 2: has done little to nothing to make the situation better.
Speaker 2: You know, there's some truth that and I think, you know,
Speaker 2: we don't deal with the worst of the worst and
Speaker 2: with penalties the way we should, and we do lock
Speaker 2: people up in this country for some things that other
Speaker 2: countries probably take a different pathway to. Our criminal justice
Speaker 2: system is a constantly evolving process that seems like and
Speaker 2: we haven't found the total sweet spot, but I can
Speaker 2: tell you what we have right now, especially in the
Speaker 2: state of Colorado. Ain't it? For a guy who's been
Speaker 2: working in law enforcement for twenty seven and a half years,
Speaker 2: this is the worst criminal justice makeup I've ever seen,
Speaker 2: and any change from this has to be better. I
Speaker 2: think at this point, I don't know if this is
Speaker 2: rock bottom, but if it's not, I hate to see
Speaker 2: what rock bottom looks like. We have another caller on
Speaker 2: the line. We have Dean from Oarvada. Dean, are you
Speaker 2: with us? And what are your comments?
Speaker 5: Yes, sir, how you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great deal?
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
Speaker 6: Hi, thanks for everything you're taking me.
Speaker 5: I was great to have pam Oma st.
Speaker 6: I think that was like a huge I mean, I
Speaker 6: gus hold out, but that's pretty awesome. One thing I
Speaker 6: wanted to say about that that guy over in the Boulder.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm just thanking God, a good guy with
Speaker 6: the gun. Wasn't there when the Boulder flea show up
Speaker 6: and they take out the good guy because of you
Speaker 6: know what happened are bad I mean, all.
Speaker 5: Of a sudden they're shooting.
Speaker 6: They're shooting a good guy, and you know, so you know,
Speaker 6: there's guys like me that you know, want to protect
Speaker 6: ourselves and their families and take carings good. And then
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, you know, I mean, that cock
Speaker 6: walked up to the guy like, come, aren't you lay down?
Speaker 6: You know you didn't even both weapon on the guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, I was a little I was a
Speaker 2: little shocked by the approach of.
Speaker 3: Of those victims on the ground.
Speaker 7: He's just walking up.
Speaker 6: Oh, he's laying on his belly. You know what.
Speaker 5: That guy's a.
Speaker 6: Terrorist and he's willing to die for his fall. Okay,
Speaker 6: So I'm I'm afraid of the Boulders. The Denver the
Speaker 6: same utuary. Uh, justice, because the good guy with the
Speaker 6: gun probably goes to Jill said, hey, you you pulled
Speaker 6: the gun out of a guy like that, You're going
Speaker 6: to jail too.
Speaker 2: Well, Dean, you have a good point because in this state,
Speaker 2: we've we've villainized guns so much. I mean even you know,
Speaker 2: and as some Republicans supported this bill, but we tied
Speaker 2: car theft to losing gun rights.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, I can maybe see that in the event
Speaker 2: that you use a gun to steal a car, but
Speaker 2: really what that's doing is villainizing the possession of a
Speaker 2: firearm and saying, you know this, this is your penalty
Speaker 2: for anything you do wrong.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: This state is is so backwards when it comes to
Speaker 2: dealing with, uh, how to protect an individual and you know,
Speaker 2: gun rights in general.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: And and look at the look at the look at
Speaker 2: the end effect.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and you've even said you nailed it. You're like, well,
Speaker 6: there's people are rain washed. The white liberals are so
Speaker 6: brain washed. Those people could be set on fire, walk
Speaker 6: your on a video prone they would still both for
Speaker 6: open borders.
Speaker 2: What do you care? You know, you say that, and
Speaker 2: I wonder does this impact people? I really, you know,
Speaker 2: so there are a lot of Jewish folks that tend
Speaker 2: to vote Democrat, and when you see some of this
Speaker 2: stuff happening. You know, even our governor Jared Polis, he's
Speaker 2: a pronounced Jewish person. You know, this has to be
Speaker 2: a slap in the face to people of that faith saying, hey,
Speaker 2: we might not be so safe in this environment we've
Speaker 2: created here in Colorado, and our sanctuary laws certainly are
Speaker 2: are benefiting us at this point. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, take Phil Wiser, tell.
Speaker 3: You're right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, we've said for for a long time in
Speaker 2: the law enforcement communities, when this thing gets bad enough,
Speaker 2: maybe the voters will say, Okay, we've had enough, we
Speaker 2: need to go the other direction. I don't know how
Speaker 2: much worse it has to get. I mean, when people
Speaker 2: are being literally set on fire, I think we've hit
Speaker 2: rock bottom. I mean, I don't know what else you
Speaker 2: say about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 6: Thank god we have people like you on the right side, Paul,
Speaker 6: Thanks Dean, and thank.
Speaker 2: God we have people like Tom Holman. As our borders
Speaker 2: are in the at the federal level. It was a
Speaker 2: pleasure to have him on again. You know, if you
Speaker 2: want to call in the numbers three or three seven, one, three, eight,
Speaker 2: two five five, or you can text in start your
Speaker 2: text with Dan at five seven, seven, three nine. We'll
Speaker 2: get to a few more of these texts and then
Speaker 2: we'll cut the break and finish out this hour. I
Speaker 2: will tease just a little bit. We're going to have
Speaker 2: another splendid guest in our in our second hour of
Speaker 2: the show. He's almost Tom Holman like, and that's George Brockler.
Speaker 2: He's a good friend of mine. I really want to
Speaker 2: get his opinion on what this prosecution is going to
Speaker 2: look like if this Mohammed Solomon the fire Starter. But
Speaker 2: he'll be on our second hour. Let's again a couple
Speaker 2: more texts. This one is great, says yay, Tom Holman.
Speaker 2: We love you. I wish I had read that while
Speaker 2: he was on here. Let's see here, Dan, glad we
Speaker 2: have people like you, Tom Holman and others who have
Speaker 2: the forty two to hold people accountable. That's from our
Speaker 2: good friend and Alexa and another one here, Tom Holman
Speaker 2: is the best another person. Now I'm late because I
Speaker 2: absolutely had to hear that interview. Awesome, you know, I
Speaker 2: think it's great that Tom has so many supporters, and
Speaker 2: we were so lucky to get him on. I have
Speaker 2: some contacts back in DC that helped make that possible,
Speaker 2: and unabashedly I'm glad that it worked out. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 2: timing of what happened in Boulder just made it even
Speaker 2: more apropos But let's cut to break again though. Keep
Speaker 2: sending in those text messages five seven, seven, three nine,
Speaker 2: or you can load up the phone lines for our
Speaker 2: last segment in this hour three O three seven, one,
Speaker 2: three eight two five five will cut a break and
Speaker 2: then we'll finish out when we get back. You're listening
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Speaker 4: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Steve Raams setting in covering for Dan today while he's
Speaker 2: off at court doing big important stuff. But we're trying
Speaker 2: to hold everything together here. And if you weren't with
Speaker 2: us at the top of the show, you missed a
Speaker 2: good interview, or at least a good interview. E We
Speaker 2: had Tom Homan on to start the show. US Borders
Speaker 2: Are and he was definitely great to hear some of
Speaker 2: the comments he had to say. And if you want
Speaker 2: to believe that Jared Poulis thinks Colorado is not a
Speaker 2: sanctuary state, I think Tom Holman agrees or looks at
Speaker 2: that a little differently. But again, it was great hearing
Speaker 2: his voice in the Colorado airwaves, which is exactly what
Speaker 2: this text that just came in says. It's a sheriff.
Speaker 2: It's good to hear Tom Homan on the air in Colorado.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling we're going to be seeing some
Speaker 2: of him, or seeing him and a lot of his
Speaker 2: people in Colorado a lot more over the coming weeks
Speaker 2: and months. And another text that came in kind of
Speaker 2: as a lead into that says, what are your thoughts
Speaker 2: on the group of sheriffs asking for and getting DHS
Speaker 2: to remove the counties and cities that are sanctuaries from
Speaker 2: the recent report that was done from the Department of
Speaker 2: Homeland Security. My county was actually one of those that
Speaker 2: got removed from the report, mostly because the criteria in
Speaker 2: which counties or municipalities were deemed to be on the
Speaker 2: sanctuary list was not clear. I don't know how much
Speaker 2: how much more I can say, but Weld County is
Speaker 2: definitely not a sanctuary County. We are not inviting to
Speaker 2: people who are here illegally. We're not promoting those folks
Speaker 2: to come to or we're not promoting those folks to
Speaker 2: come to Weld County as Denver and other places have.
Speaker 2: We definitely expect people to follow the rule of law,
Speaker 2: and if they've entered the country illegally, we're not trying
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to keep them here and
Speaker 2: hide them and shield them from ice. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that we're not humanitarian if need be, but we're definitely
Speaker 2: we're not taking the path of Denver and other places
Speaker 2: in the Denver, Boulder, other places in the state, which ironically,
Speaker 2: if you go to Boulder, very few illegal immigrants in
Speaker 2: the city of Boulder, the town of Boulder, because you know,
Speaker 2: they like the policy, they just don't necessarily like it
Speaker 2: to be in their own backyard. It's definitely a nimby
Speaker 2: thing when you're looking at Boulder. But we're focused on
Speaker 2: Bolder because of what happened over the weekend. When you
Speaker 2: want to talk about immigration policies failing, the case that
Speaker 2: is being highlighted is from the attack that happened yesterday
Speaker 2: afternoon about one point thirty where an individual by the
Speaker 2: name of Mohammad Sabri, Solomon