Speaker 1: Advertisers, and I know you have great advertisers on your
radio show. Advertisers very often, especially if you pick up
like a women's magazine, want you to feel bad about
yourself to sell you something. And so I can make
you feel bad about you. Know, your lips should be fuller,
your hair should be a different color, your thing. I
can sell you something. I always telling my students, I
want to make you feel good about yourself, so I
can sell you something. And that's what I.
Speaker 2: Do, right right, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: Now what is so what is bickroom yoga and how
is that different from I don't know if regular yoga
would be the way to put it, but but what
what is what is bigrom yoga?
Speaker 1: Exactly sure, Bickram yoga has been around for a very
long time. Bickram Chowdery is the guy who started it.
He's a controversial person and so a lot of us
no longer use the term Bickram yoga. But Bickrim yoga
describes a very specific style of yoga. So we do
a set of postures in a specific order every single class,
so the class never changes. We also don't play music.
The lights are on, bright, bright lights, yeah, the lights,
the bright lights, no music, a teacher talking for ninety minutes.
I talked for ninety minutes and just tell you what
to do with your body. That lets you. There's a
lot of philosophy to that, and we'll get to that,
but that helps let you actually turn your brain off. Okay,
it's hot and it's humid. When Bickram started teaching yoga
to Western so Bickram's backstory as I know it is
he went to the Ghost College of Yoga and Physical
Education in India, grew up there and was a weightlifter.
Actually he was into powerlifting and that kind of stuff.
And he got injured and he asked me, you'll take
me back to my teacher, my guru, and he'll help
me get well because he understood that yoga could heal
the body, and he became a yoga therapist. And in
the process of being a yoga therapist. So if you
were sick, mount you went to see Vishnu Ghosh, his teacher,
and you said, you know, my shoulder hurts and my
neck hurts, and he would say, okay, do this yoga
pos and this yoga post. And Bickraam's going to teach
you how to do. Bickrams started thinking about what if
we took a group of yoga poses that no matter
what was wrong with you, one of these was the
right one to fix your body in yoga therapy. And
he put together a series that's fit together so that
every posture prepares you for the next posture, and every
posture works to the entire body. So when you're done
with the class, you have done one hundred percent of
your body has been worked out. Okay, it's nothing, they say,
inside out, bones to the skin. So every muscle, every organ,
every cell of your body has had something done to
it to help it improve its health.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: The room. When he went to Westerners try to teach
it that he found they couldn't move, and so he
added in heat and humidity. So there's a lot of
hot yoga around, but not all hot yoga. All Bickram
Yoga's hot yoga, but not all hot yogas yoga. Okay,
other yogas have added in heat for the same purpose.
The heat is designed for a couple of reasons. Our
room is much hotter than a lot of other hot
yoga classes. People freak out when they hear the number,
but it's a undred and five degrees with forty percent humidity. Okay,
but that's less than ten degrees over your body temperature.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So one of the things we know that happens is
when you heat the body is that fasha, that connective
tissue softens, so that makes you more flexible. Scar tissue
is made out of that fasha, so you can start
to stretch scar tissue. For me, that's what was happening
that first time I felt something was I had heated
my fasha, that scar tish with my neck enough that
it actually started to stretch, okay, and it is that
non stretching material that's kept me from being mobile.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's how the heat works. The heat also focuses
your mind really quickly, so that people come in and
they do their very first class in ninety minutes. They've
thought about nothing but what's going on in that room.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 1: There's no way to worry about your gas bill or
whatever while you're in that room, because you become very focused.
Speaker 3: And that's partly because of the heat.
Speaker 1: That's partially because of the heat, partially because the are
on bright and the teacher's talking the whole class. Okay,
there's no room for sort of your mind to wander off.
We call it a ninety minute moving meditation. For some people,
sitting and quiet in their mind is really really hard. Yes, yes, yeah,
And you must notice through the hypnotherapy to people who
just have that racing mind.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: We talk at a I wouldn't say at a high
rate of speed, but we don't stop talking the entire class. Yeah,
and so there's sort of no room for you to
separate outside the room from what's happening.
Speaker 3: Well, you're doing you're doing a form of hypnosis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we kind of o I mean, you.
Speaker 3: Probably don't call it. You don't call it that, but
that's definitely Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's creating this a thing to focus on, and meditation
is having a single item to focus on and then
losing that focus and then coming back to the focus.
That is meditation, that's mindfulness. So we're teaching mindfulness in
the process. But this Western idea of the light slow
and the music on is a lot of distraction for
the mind. Yeah, And people always ask me, add a music.
I can't because I'm not going to distract you away
from the most important person that you're working on. In
that moment, which is you, and so that's what we do.
There's a giant mirror in the front of the room,
so you have to see yourself. Bickerm was once asked
why is there a giant mirror in the room, and
I loved his answer was, it's not enough that you suffer.
Speaker 3: You have to see yourself.
Speaker 1: But when you think about seeing yourself suffer, what is
when we see suffering as human beings, our first response
is typically compassion. So when you see yourself suffer, you
become more compassionate with yourself, and then you become more
compassionate with everybody else. So this Bickham yoga was said,
it's this series of postures that are put together, done
in a heated room with a specific set of directions,
and it's designed so even if you can do very little,
that every single posture is broken into tiny little pieces,
and you never have to do the whole posture. You
can do just just to the first step. And after
you do the first step, if that's all you can do,
six or seven classes in you're gonna find oh eight,
I could do the second step. Okay, now I could
do the third. So all these little steps that all
the postures put together help you get there, because I
have to tell people all the time, yoga's not about yoga.
Yoga's about creating a better quality of life because you
practice yoga. So what the postures.
Speaker 2: Look like don't matter, Okay.
Speaker 1: What matters is you're doing the work on your body
and your mind to make your.
Speaker 2: Life better, Okay.
Speaker 3: And that's our interesting yeah, because I would imagine a
lot of people who come to you they can't, like,
well probably most people, they can't just do all the
postures right off the bat, right.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever met anybody in my
twenty years in this business who could do all of
the postures in theories beginning to end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely.
Speaker 3: I mean, I imagine if you happen to encounter someone
who's unusually flexible, you know.
Speaker 2: Maybe they could do it, but that's probably pretty rare.
Speaker 1: But there's a balance of strength and flexibility. And so
what I find is people come in the majority of
people who come in are strong but not very flexible.
They're looking for more flexibit. I love when people say
to me, I can't do yoga, I'm not flexible. I
tell them that's like saying you can't take French lessons
because you don't speak French. If you don't speak frends,
you should take French lessons if you want to learn
to speak French. If you're not flexible and you want
to be flexible, go to yoga to learn to be flexible.
It's harder for students who are very flexible. Actually, and
I tell my classes all the time feel bad for
them when the flexible people come in, because it's easy
to build more flexibility with your strength than it is
to build strength with your flexibility. But the way our
postures are designed, everybody gets what they need. So we
don't have a beginner and intermediate and advanced class. Everybody's
in the same class. Okay, so I've you have people
who it's their very first class in the same room
with people who have taken thousands of classes. You are
people who are incredibly flexible in with people who are inflexible.
You have people who are very young in with people
who are very old. Your people in my studio, we
have people who sit in chairs. We have people who
have to sit on the ground for the whole class.
We have amputees, We have hip replacements, knee replacements, people
you know, and everybody's just doing what they can and
that is an amazing experience of we all work together. Yeah,
so it doesn't matter how much or little you do.
We don't separate people into groups. Everybody's in there together.
I had a class this morning. My younger student was
probably a college student. We have an older woman and
I'd love to talk about more. Her name's Elaine. She's
eighty eight years old. She's been practicing for fifteen years.
She comes every single day. Yeah, and she was in
the she comes in class and we have thirteen year
olds and her in the same exact class.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So everybody's just doing what they can do. The practice
doesn't change, but you do.
Speaker 3: So Elaine. So she's eighty eight.
Speaker 1: She's eighty eight.
Speaker 3: She's been doing yoga for fifteen years. Fifteen years, I
would imagine. So she's probably a lot more flexible.
Speaker 1: Than most eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't come in flexible when she started. She
had high cholesterol not controlled, high blood pressure also not control.
Speaker 2: Oh, and diabetes okay.
Speaker 3: And she.
Speaker 1: They wanted to put her in the hospital to get
her on medication.
Speaker 2: To control her high blood pres Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because she was struggling with you know, it's too high,
was too low. It was going back and forth, and
she was caring for her husband with dementia, and she
didn't want to leave him the hospital, so she wasn't
taking care of herself. She was taking care of him,
but not taking care of herself. You don't get on
the airplane, they say put your mask on first. Yep, exactly,
got to take care of yourself first. But she wasn't
doing that. Her kids convinced her to come and take
three classes. She could not stand for the whole class.
She couldn't kneel on her own knees, and she was
really struggling just to be in the room. And so
the first class she came in, she did the breathing
exercise that we start with, and then she laid on
the floor and just laid down for the entire class
and did the breathing exercise at the end. And then
her kids convinced her she had to do three classes
before she could give up. So she said she went
home even after just laying on the floor for an
hour in the heat, took a shower, and she felt better,
and then she came back the next day, and she
came back the next couple days later, and I think
that got her hooked. After she practicing a short time
and she's still not doing much of the class. She's
doing a lot of just laying down, which you're perfectly
fine in our class. You can lay down if you
need to get some airstep out, get some air come back.
Speaker 3: She's getting the still getting the heat.
Speaker 1: You're still getting yeah on this and I want to
get to like the studies on heat and depression are
really fascinating, really yeah, how being a heated environment lifts
depression for a lot of people. But I want to
finishing laid story. So she started coming. We also did
a little challenge where we asked people to do ten
classes in a row or twenty classes row and thirty
classes and you got ten dollars off for twenty dollars
off for thirty year off your next month.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she said, I can't do it, and I said,
what can you do it? She said I can do three.
I said, okay, we'll do three in a row. And
then she did three, and then she did five, and
then she did the ten. She did the thirty, and
she decided she was going to keep coming because she
was feeling so good.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So she did sixty classes in sixty days. She started
yoga seventy two years old, and I tease her, now
I gave her which charged seventy five. We gave her
the gift of free yoga for the rest of her life.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know she was going to live this long and
might have waited till she was aiding, but she's still coming.
And so then she started just coming almost every day.
She's seen up and downs in her life, through COVID,
through you know, illnesses, through the death of her husband,
through you know, just things that happen in life. The
yoga has been the thing that she can come back
to over and over again.
Speaker 2: Wow, that grounds her.
Speaker 1: And yeah, she's she's independent, she's strong, she's flexible. Good
for her, Yeah, she and she really does. We talk
a lot. We spend a lot of time together, and
she will tell you a lot of it is too,
is the community that we have. That's why it was
important when we were on Zoom for me to have
the community. We know that there are people who struggle
with mental health issues. Yoga is very helpful. And then
to lose that in the process of a pandemic and lockdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to give them still this community to come back
to and be part of, even if they can't practice
yoga online. Yeah, to be able to come and check
in with somebody and say I'm here. I think one
of the greatest diseases in the United States and the
world is actually loneliness. And when you look at overeating, smoking,
all of that, Yes, the depression, loneliness is a huge
part of that for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: And so by having everybody in the same room, you
have a community that we start building a people of
all different ages, all different We have doctors that practice
next to janitors, Like it doesn't matter when you're in
the room in a little outfit sweating. It doesn't matter
what you do for a living, or what your education is,
or what your income level is. It's kind of a
great equalizer. Eline spends a lot of time going out
for breakfast after class or whatever with people of all
different ages, and so she's kept that social group going
even at the loss of friends and who are her age.
I think that happens to a lot of older people.
They lose their social group and then they have no
way to rebuild it. So we have people that range
in all ages and they all work together, which I
think is really helpful. So much of what we're doing
in yoga is not about the physical postures that we did,
and so having that community is really important and having
people of all different ages and stuff. We know that
there's a lot of studies that have studied though depression
and going into saunas and going into heated environments, and
there was actually a Harvard study. I wish I had
more information than I could, but people can just if
they googled Bickram Yoga Harvard Depression Study, it'll come up.
They had people doing two classes a week and they
self reported huge changes that they were far less depressed
during yoga, even compared to people who are taking medication.
We not only offer yoga, though, we also have other
modalities of healing. So we have float tanks, we have
a sauna, we have red light therapy, massage therapy, we're
adding in skincare, We do meditations, and all of these
things work together. Some people just coming into asauna can
be really helpful for helping depression.
Speaker 3: That's particularly interesting to me because I probably haven't told
you this, some of my listeners know because I'm pretty
open about this stuff. But you know, I by entire
adult life and probably going back to when I was
a teenager, I've struggled with depression unmedicated because I'm stubborn
and terrified of side effects. But it's definitely and I've
never been formally diagnosed, but I believe it's, you know,
just it's clinical depression, because you know, I can get
depressed for no reason, so that's probably you know, I'm
pretty sure it's a chemical imbalance, and it's definitely in
my family. But I love my favorite time of year, summer,
and I actually like the heat, like when it's ninety
degrees outside, you know, and people are you know, I'd
prefer a dry heat. But even the humidity doesn't really
bother me. You know, I'm running around well, you know,
you've seen me pop in at your place in al
when it's you know, ninety degrees and I'm out running
around all sweaty. But I'm fine, And I always I've
always kind of assumed that part of why I like
summer so much, it is my favorite time of year,
is because there's more sunlight, and I think the more
sunlight helps alleviate depression. But I wonder too, if maybe
maybe the reason I like the heat, it's not just
because I'm weird, because people think it's weird. Really it's
ninety degrees and you don't mind. I'm like, no, it's
fine with me.
Speaker 1: I don't mind the heat either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So you know, maybe it's because it's actually helping me maybe,
yeah mentally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably is. They know that heat. They don't
know why, but they know that being a heated environment
does help people with depression. The float tank that we
have we put in an open float tank. A lot
of float tanks and there's some great float places up
here in New Hampshire. Yeah. They have cabins and they
have pods which have covers and for some people that's
very claustrophobic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 1: Very difficult for people with mobility issues often to get
in and out of them. Okay, so we put in
a large open float tank that has a side that
you can sit on. It has a metal grab bar
that allows people with mobility issues to get in and out,
but also for people who are claustrophobic they can come
in and use it. There's been studies where they've studied
floating compared to medication for anxiety for mild to moderate,
not severe anxiety, but mild to moderate anxiety. Compared medication
to regular floating, and the people who were floating regularly
saw more improvement than people in medication and no side effects.
I love Western medicine. I think Western medicine is great.
There are a lot of people in the wellness industry
that detagrade pharmaceutical companies on that. I think if you
have an acute injury or illness, western medicine is a
great solution. If your appendix structures, go have a surgery. Yes,
if you have pneumonia, please take an antibiotic like there are,
but it comes with side effects. What the Western medicine
hasn't been able to do as well is chronic illness,
chronic injury, you know, immune thing, the autoimmune disorders, depression,
chronic anxiety. When you have those chronic illnesses, Western medicine
has tools in their toolbox are pills and surgery. They
are so good at diagnosis though they have X rays
and cat scans and functional MRIs and all blood tests
and all these things they can do to diagnose what's wrong.
But their treatment toolbox is really just pills and surgery.
And for some things that's great, like say your pendix ruptures,
please have it taken out. That doesn't work for chronic illness,
that doesn't work for chronic injury. And I was so
blessed to come across a doctor when I got injured
who said, go try all these other types of healing
to see what works. And what I've found is and
working for twenty years in wellness, lots of my students
have found finding the other monologies is how you treat
chronic illness. You can't really treat it with Western medicine
because who wants all those side effects. But you find
the other things that work, and then you have to
incorporate them and make them part of your lifestyle, even
when that's hard. One of the hardest things I think
for people with depression is to make that consistent to
keep coming. We have students that I have said to me,
I struggle with depression. So when I don't show up,
I'm probably And I said, I asked them, do you
want me to call you? Do you want me to
call you? And just like give you a little nudge.
I don't like to chase students, but I'm happy to
give you a little nudge and say, hey, you're doing okay,
why don't you come in and you know, commit and
take a nap on the floor. And once they're in
and they're with the people again, it helps. It's not
going to fix it, and I may not fix it
for and this is the good news is it helps.
The bad news is you have to do it for
the rest of your life. Bad news is you're not
going to be able to do It's not a one
and done. It's like brushing your teeth. You have to
do it consistently to keep helping. And so it's that idea.
You have to show up for yoga two to three
times a week. If you're injured, come more. If you're
feeling good, go to the beach. Don't go to yoga
that day. You know. The red light therapy that we
do is designed to excite the mitochondri and yourselves. It
makes people feel better, but it also heals injuries faster.
There was a recent study done. It is funded by
the company that makes red light therapy panels. So I
always like to premise it with that disure. It doesn't
make it in a bad study. It just I like
to disclose where the study came from that. They found
the people who regularly use red light therapy, they're not
sure why it decreases inflammation in the body. They're not
sure why it does these things it does, but they
know it works. Okay, So they found an increase of
healthy gut bacteria and people who were regularly doing red
light So it may just be that increasing your gut
bacteria that's healthy having. We know that having a healthy
gut makes your whole body feel better. So the red
light therapy and it's been used as a treatment medically
for people with crones and colitis for a long long time. Yeah,
so they know that it's good for your gut and
their gut stuff helps the whole body feel better. The
sauna is more heat to like hang out and just
relax sends the muscles, but also helps with depression, helps
with mental health issues. To float tank, the massage, all
of this works together, but the yoga to get people
moving and stronger and more flexible not only in their
body but also in their mind.
Speaker 3: I feel like all of this too, you know, because
when when you're talking about Western medicine and what it
addresses well and not so well.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: It's it's probably I assume you have people who who
come to you who are perfectly healthy, they just want
to be healthier. Yeah, because I feel like, and maybe
maybe I shouldn't say Western medicine so much in this context.
Is it may just be a broader just societal issue
that we have in America where there's there's not enough
And we were talking, Jenny and I were talking about
this recently on the show. There's never enough emphasis on
preventative medicine and and just taking care of yourself up front.
It seems like our whole way of doing things culturally
is you address these problems when they occur, but you
don't do enough. And it kind of goes back to
what I was saying too about smoking. When you know
a smoker who says, well, I'm okay today, there's no
cancer today, you know, and then I'll address the problem
when it kind of arises. And smoking is an extreme
example of that, of course, but but I think most people, yeah,
they're just like, yeah, you know, when when something happens,
I'll address it, but until then I assume I'm fine,
when in reality, you know, it's We had someone on
the show Doctor No who from Portsmouth who was on
the show with us one day, and I said to him,
the easiest thing in the world for any of us
to take for granted. The number one thing that people
take for granted, I believe is their health. And he
said to me, not only is it the easiest thing
to take for granted, it's the hardest thing to get
back right once something goes.
Speaker 1: FROLLI Lama I think it was who said he has
found that people will give up their health to chase money,
and then when they get old and they need their health,
they'll spend all their money yeah and get healthy.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So I may not have got the quote perfectly right,
but that's the gist, that idea that things that we
monetize things in a way that will chase the money,
but we'll give up ourselves in the process. And again,
yoga is about finding a balance, right, so that balance
of go and work but also take care of yourself.
So in our classes too, there's a section of the
class on the floor that the last part of the class.
But we do a posture and then we lay down
to rest. We do a posture and we lay down
to rest. We do a posture, We lay down and
rest and we do back and forth, and there's some
physiological things going on there, but I a'll think it's
important you're learning in that moment, Like you have to work,
but as much as you work, you have to rest.
You cannot constantly go go, go, go, go burn the candle.
That both ends. At some point you run out of candle.
That's the problem. So you have to create that balance
of work and rest. And it's all about balance, and
that's what we're trying to teach people to find the
balance in their life, in their strength and flexibility in
their work and relaxation in their mind and their body.
How do you find the balance. It's not that you're
going to be perfectly balanced your right arm and your
left arm will be equally strong and flexible. That's not
the balance we're talking about. But it is that idea
that you figure out how to live in your body
in the way that you're not abusing yourself. And again
that always goes back to that idea of falling in
love with yourself. To look in the mirror over and
over and over again when you come in class from
your beginner is hard, and I struggle to watch those
students who are really struggling to see themselves. I jokingly
often say look in the mirror, and if you see yourself,
I'll give you extra points because we can look in
the mirror. Many of us look in the mirror every
single day to get ready to go out the door,
but we don't see our So to spend ninety minutes
seeing yourself that's who you truly are, is an amazing
thing to watch people create that balance to get their
health back. But we do have a lot of people
who are fine, they're healthy, and they're coming to relieve,
press maybe or whatever. They just want to Often it's
something that goes with the other activity they do. They golf,
but they need to get that flexibility. They run, so
their hamstrings are tight, so they need to do the yoga.
They lift a lot of weight, so they need to
do the yoga. So often these are people who are athletes,
professional athletes and stuff. I had one hundred mile marathon.
If he used to come all the time, I think,
when you discover what's big and hungry and chasing you,
please let me know and we'll take.
Speaker 2: Care of you.
Speaker 1: But he just loved to run, but he needed that.
His hamstrings have started to be a problem, so you
balance it out with this other stuff. You can never
measure what didn't go wrong because you've taken care of yourself, right,
that's the thing, right, can't measure that. So I often
say to people, I don't know where I would be
without the yoga, And my manager, who's lovely, he always says, oh,
you'd be dead by it, and I think he's probably right.
I probably would have been dead by now. But he
just believes that, you know, the smoking and the drinking
and the chronic pain would have led me down a
dangerous with yeah, and I think he's right. Once my
kids were no longer my responsibility to take care of
every day without the yoga, I don't know what that
would have looked like. But you can't measure that.
Speaker 3: Interesting, yeah, because once the kids grow up, then you know,
I don't have any children. I'm not a parent, but
I assume, and partly I hear people talk about this too.
There's that sense of what is my purpose now? My
purpose was to raise my children.
Speaker 1: And that purpose in combination with living in pain, because
when you don't have that, when you live in that
level of pain, and for some people like me, that
was physical pain, Yeah. For some people that's emotional pain.
For some people that spiritual pain. It's chemical pain, it's
that brain chemistry, whatever it is. When they don't have
that reason to get out of bed in the morning,
it gets easier and easier to not to stop taking
care of yourself, to stop. You know, it's painful to
drive the car and turn my head to try to
back out of my driveway. I'm just gonna stop doing right.
I have to do it because I have to bring
the kids to school. But once they're gone, yeah, you know,
and I think that's and watching people age like that,
it's sad for me because I see Elaine who made
a different choice. And we have lots of students in
their sixties, seventies from almost sixty, myself in their seventies eighties.
We're about to celebrate Elane's ninetieth birthday in just a
few years, so you know, there's no reason to if
she started at seventy two, there's no reason to think
I'm too old to start, right, because I think she had.
She don't tell people the reason I can come every
day is because I started. I was already retired. Interesting
I could come every day because I didn't have a
job in kids and stuff. Yeah, I had repent. She
learned to take care of herself, which made her better
take care of her husband. Yes, yes, so it all,
you know, it all works together.
Speaker 3: I always assume Mick Jagger, you know, he's in his
eighties now, but if you see recent video of him
on stage, he's still you know, he runs around like
he's twenty years old. And he and he you know,
he doesn't seem to get winded. You know, he's singing
and running around on stage. And I know he.
Speaker 1: Hasn't always had the healthiest lifestyle.
Speaker 3: Right exactly. We all know that exactly. So I just
assume I don't know this, but I assume he does
yoga something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you can't abuse yourself a fair
bit in your twenties and thirties. I think anyone over
thirty would agree, like, you could abuse yourself a fair bit,
the body recovers better and all of that. Yeah, Ony,
don't you start getting in the thirties and forty you
don't bounce back. And it's that idea. Objects in motions
stay in motion, Objects at rest stay at rest. Your
one job in this world is to take care of you. Yeah,
I asked his question in class. If I told you,
at sixteen you learn to drive a car, and I'm
going to give you a car, you could have any
car you want, but you can only have that car
for the rest of your life. How are you going
to take care of that car? How often are you
going to wash it, change the oil, to take care
of it, all that stuff. Most of us would say, oh,
I would take such good care of that car, knowing
that's the only one I'm getting. You get one body, yeath,
and it's got to take you from beginning to end?
How are you taking care of it? And that's not
for a place of guilt, because you can't abuse yourself
a bit For a while.
Speaker 3: You can get away with that young.
Speaker 1: Spoking, the drinking and all of that. You know, you
can get away with all of that until some point
where you can't anymore. And the problem is you've created
the habits and the lifestyle patterns, the patterns that make
it difficult to transition to something new. So you're right,
we are hypnotizing people when I have these conversations while
they're in class sweating, and I'm saying these things to
them in class. I'm brainwashing. But I tell them I'm
up front, it's not a secret. I'm going to brainwash you.
And if I have trouble brainwashing, that's when we turn
the heat up because it makes the brainwashing easier. But
my goal is to brainwash you. So instead to be
your brainwashing us we are a cult, I said, no,
we're not a cult. Cult wants to tell you what
to do all the time and what to think all
the time. I want you to stop thinking for ninety
minutes and fall in love with you because that's my
that's my evil plan of yoga is to make people
fall in love with themselves, right, because that makes the
whole world better.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, And.
Speaker 1: That's the same when you're hypnotizing somebody and they stop smoking,
you probably see it. They change how they feel about
them They care about themselves in a new way that
getting them to stop smoking gets them to eat better,
to go for a walk more than you know, whatever
it is, you see those changes. When you start just
making those small steps to just start being better to yourself,
it builds and then it builds and it builds, and
all it takes is one step. I tell you. All
you have to do is walk in the door. We're
going to help you do the rest, but you have
to walk in the door. I can't come to your house.
I wish I could. I see people in the grocery
store and I go, excuse me with me. I would
like you to come with me for just for an
hour and a half and see if we can, you know,
help you out, because it makes me sad to see
people who physically are struggling. You see people physically struggle,
but you never you can't see what's going on for
the people who are not physically struggling, but struggling in
lots of other ways. If you're a human being, you
have trauma, you're struggling in some way, and so being
able to help get that out of your way so
that you're not struggling to go through life every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it feels so good. It's it's like, uh
to me, I mean, it's got to be the biggest
endorphin rush in the world to be able to help
somebody get better. You know, Yes, it's I mean, that's
what you know. To me, hypnotherapy is addictive because I
just love helping somebody make make positive change. You know,
it's it's Uh.
Speaker 1: Someone asked me what my return on investment was in
my business when we were transitioning from the smaller studio
closing financially not in a good place, to reopening in
a much bigger space with all the other wellness modalities.
They were like, what's your return on investment? Well, it's
eline my return investment. I have a student who had
kidney failure and I couldn't get him a kidney, and
somebody another modality, a chiropractor or an acupuncturist, had said
to him, you should maybe try this. I met this
woman who teaches sweaty yoga. Maybe you should go do that,
and like sweat, maybe that'll help. Yeah, right, and we
talk about detoxic and hot yoga. You're not toxic. It
does help remove metabolic waste from your body and stuff.
But the students walk in, you're not toxic. You're not
sitting around toxic. This guy was toxic, like he had
didn't have functioning kidneys to clean out his system. Wow,
And we progressively watched him get better back because I
asked him, I said, so you've had a kidney transplant.
He said no, And I said, so you're not on
dialysis of kidney failure and you didn't get a transplant.
And I said, how does that work? Because basically I'm
just waiting to die, okay, but I want to feel better.
I think maybe this will help me feel better.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Come eleven years later, he finally got a kidney trips.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did it. Actually, he was saying, the
show the birthday of that place where Jennie Shell is
this weekend is Saturday. My birthday is on Saturday. And
he got his kidney on my birthday, which was really exciting.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: But I watched him progressively get better and better and
better and better and better and better over years and
years and a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just doing hot yoga and Western medicine is a funny
thing because he went to his doctor, his necrologist with
the kidney doctor, and they said to him, you look great.
What are you doing And he said, I'm doing hot yoga.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And the doctor said, oh, I don't know if you
should be doing that.
Speaker 3: Oh really, But He's.
Speaker 1: Like, but you just told me how good I look.
My numbers look good. My numbers look good, and I
look good and I feel good and I'm living of
a good quality of life. Why would you tell me
that's not the thing I should be doing. It's funny
that Western doctors just have this idea and also this
idea of what yoga is. Like most people think yoga
and they think down dog and up dog and I
did too. I can't do that. I have a neck injury,
I have a shoulder injury, whatever, and we don't do
any of that. It's really accessible to everybody with injuries
because that's what it was designed for, designed for injured bodies,
to bring them back to health and then to let
them maintain that good health into it.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, and if you're just joining us, we're talking
with Terry Almquist from Wellness Hot Yoga in haverl Yeah.
I was curious to ask you.
Speaker 2: You may have.
Speaker 3: Already answered it with what you were just saying, but
maybe there's something else, like misconceptions, Like what is the
biggest misconception people have about yoga.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest misconception people have is that you
have to be flexible to yoga.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't.
Speaker 1: I was so infired. I hadn't moved my head in
thirteen fourteen years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so inflexible.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until I actually started doing yoga that we
realized I had all this problems with my shoulder too.
I think in the same injury, I had probably torn
a rotator cuff. When you go to an emergency room
and you can't move your legs because your spine is injured,
no one asks you how your shoulder feels. Right, it's
not high up on the list. And so when you
have those kind of injuries, you think, I can't do
yoga because I injured this, And that may be true
of and I found that true for myself. And I'm
not denigrating other styles of yoga. I think all yoga
is good yoga, yeah, and not all yoga is made
for all bodies. Right, So if you're an injured body,
you're not. You shouldn't be going into a class where
the first thing they start with this handstands.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If you've ever done yoga and you go into a
class and they're starting and you have a spine injury
and they start with headstands, you're in the wrong yoga class, right,
Because ours is designed from a therapeutic yoga standpoint, was
done as yoga therapy. Every single posture is designed for
people who have almost no mobility. The first step of
a lot of the pastures when we're standing is to
stand with your feet together, and for some people that's it.
That's hard enough. Yeah, bring your arms over your head.
There's nothing we do that's really crazy. There's nothing we do,
first of all, in this particular style of yoga that's
outside the natural range of motion for the adult human body.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: And we do no weight bearing exercises on non weight
bearing joints, meaning we're not standing on our head or
our hands, we're not doing. All of the poses we
do are designed to work with the way the human.
Speaker 2: Body is actually designed to Okay.
Speaker 1: So, and you could just do that little bit. So
people think I can't sit on my heels. I can't.
I can't get up and down off the floor. I
hear that a lot. That's a common misconception yoga because
I can't get up and down off the floor. And
in some yoga's that's true. They're doing down dog up
dog chataranga. That's a very traditional set of postures that
are done and yasa in different styles of yoga. Yeah,
we don't do that, So there's no up and down.
You're up standing up for the first part of class,
and then we get on the floor once and we
stay on the floor till the end. Oh so you
only have to get up once and down once. That's it.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1: It's really a different it's a different conception concept of
yoga than a lot of yoga that people are sort
of conscious of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and do do do kids do yoga?
Speaker 1: We kids as young as eight can do this yoga.
Kids do the only do the portion on the floor.
They're already flexible. They're just made out of rubber band
in bubblegum, right, and they don't have the muscle strength
to hold We only hold the postures twenty thirty seconds,
but some of them that's the challenge, Like it's difficult
to hold that posture for twenty to thirty seconds for
children who don't have that muscle strength. What happens is
they can get very deep into postures and they can't
hold it. So we don't have them do and they
don't need to warm up the heat all. The first
part of class is warming up in the heat to
get ready for the yoga practice, which happens on the floor.
Kids don't need to warm up they're already warm, they're
already limbered, they're already all those things. So I'm seeing
less and less. I'm seeing more and more younger kids
who have less flexibility. I think they don't run around
like we used to do.
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, Like they don't.
Speaker 1: Have gym like we used to. Ye, So I see
kids who have less flexibility, but they come in for
the back half of class. So they usually they're usually
coming because their parents come and they're interested, and they
start coming because of that. So under the age of
fourteen thirteen, fourteen, they just do that last part of class.
Once they get old enough to sweat efficiently, that's the
other problem. You don't want to put a kid that
age in the heated room for ninety minutes because children don't.
Part of the reason we have the heat is to
make you sweat, and that sweat helps you efficiently cool
your own body, okay, And so we want you to
be heated up so your limber sweating so you don't overheat,
which sounds counterintuitive, like if I make you hot and sweater,
you won't overheat. But as the sweat is evaporating, your
body is staying. It's normal for temperature. Yeah, the room
is hot, but you are not. Children can't cool themselves
like that because they don't have mature sweat glands. Children
can overheat much more quickly than adults. So we don't
want little kids in the room.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't want little and they can go from
being fine to being not fine and just really fast. Yeah,
with the delta takes a little longer. So as teachers,
the part of the training we have, we're looking for
certain sides. If somebody's overheating, if they stop sweating, if
they you know, there's certain things we're looking for. A
certain color of the skin, they get paler or they
get pinker. I always tell my teachers if you have
a little a younger person in the class and they
start looking like they have a bit of a sunburn
on their face, they need to go outside and cool
off for a minute. They're not cooling themselves. Same with adults.
We have a deltable turn. Some adults just turn very red.
They'll tell you I turn red.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Some people are just ready like that. But we're looking
for certain signs. The teacher stands at the front of
the room. We stand on a podium. I wear a
headset and I'm talking, but I'm looking at everybody all
the time, so I'm watching to make sure everybody's okay.
Kids who are thirteen fourteen, they start sweating, they can
come and try the whole class. I ask parents who
want to bring their kids to class, does your kid
wear deodorant every day? Or does your kid wear deodorant
to the school dance? So if they're still just wearing deodorant,
if they only really need it for the school dance
or something very physical, they're probably not sweating efficiently enough.
Yet a kid who needs deodorant every day to go
to school, they're probably.
Speaker 2: Sweating efficiently okay.
Speaker 1: And then if you practice enough and you come a lot,
then you don't need deodorant at all because your sweat
is very clean.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Fascinating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh that's very interesting. Yeah, the subject of deodorant
came up recently on the show too. I forget who
we're talking with, but how it's really not not great
for you like this, the regular store brand deodorant stuff
is fine.
Speaker 1: To not smell is good. Yeah, we live in a
social world.
Speaker 3: But there's like like organic but you are.
Speaker 1: Designed to sweat, Yeah, to cool yourself. Sweat is actually
a natural reaction to either temperature or change. Is a
logical change in your body, like stress and that kind
of stuff. And we all know stress sweat smells different
than just like every day sweat. And if you sweat regularly,
this is like way too much information. The spell is
actually bacteria that's growing on your skin. Oh, that's what
the spell. And if you sweat regularly, that bacteria is
it's cleaned up there. And so I have to be
like too much information about me. I don't think I've
won the.
Speaker 2: Yoda in fifteen years, kidding.
Speaker 1: Except to fly. I don't like to fly. I'm a
nervous flyer. Maybe I should get a little hypnosis. I
have doing a retreat in Thailand. It may I'm gonna
have to fly to Thailand. I usually fly with my manager,
which I refer to on the plane as my emotional support.
I'm going by myself on this trip. Maybe a little
hypnosis will help.
Speaker 3: I have helped people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, specifically, I do fly.
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of flying. I'm just I don't I
just I'm nervous on the plane. Yeah, but I'll where
Toyoda because that's nervous sweat. It's not my every day,
but I go in a heated room several times a
day and sweat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I haven't won Toyoda in years. And you've been
around me. Nobody's ben plain so far. Everybody so that
constantly sweating is good for your skin and your body too.
Like we talked about detoxing. If part of that is
that idea?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I have helped people with that fear of flying. I
have my my only issue with see, I don't mind
being Like being in that big metal tube in the
air doesn't bother me at all. I don't like airports.
Airports are stressful. Well like that Manchester. Have you ever flown?
And I love flying out of man Manchester is awesome.
That airport is so it's so small, it's easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for me it's on the plane. I
call it big in the tube.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's a really uncomfortable thing for me.
Speaker 3: Although physically that it can be hard for me because
my ears, especially on the descent. You know, people get
the ear popping. I get the pressure in my ears
sometimes gets really bad, like I've I've had I've been
in intense pain intends to happen on the descent. Not
every time I've flown, but a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I was a sick kid and I had a lot
of chronic ear infection.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, we're talking about that the other day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I actually understand that too much pressure
flying is better for me now though unfortunately, because of
I had COVID and I flew during while I had
COVID and I had problems with drugs, I ended up
with tubes in my ears that are pretty permanent. But
now I don't have that pressure change because I have tubes.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good, but it's not good, you know, I'd
rather not have the tubes.
Speaker 3: And yeah, of course of course.
Speaker 4: We should talk about too.
Speaker 3: Uh, you've got the big open house. You've got a
big event that starts tomorrow tomorrow.
Speaker 1: So our kickoff is tomorrow. So, as I said, this
coming Saturday, the fourteenth is my birthday, and every year
for my birthday at the yoga studio, what I do
is gift other people yoga. Yeah, because the greatest gift
you can give me for my birthday is to take
care of yourself and learn and learn the tools to
do that. Put those tools in your toolbox. So we
have an open house all next week, kick off tomorrow
from seven to noon. We're gonna have healthy snacks and
some healthy beverages and come and see the float tank,
try out the red light, take a free suna, take
a yoga class. All next week. Yoga is free, all
of our yoga classes, so we teach primarily this Bickram
hot yoga. We also have several yin classes a week
in the evening. Yin is a slower yoga class. Deeper stretches,
held for long postures are held for long periods of time.
Oh wow, it's a nice compliment to the hot yoga.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not, it's therapeutic.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: All yoga is good and therapeutic. But if you're really
badly injured, the hot yoga is the one you want
to do, and then the yin is good for creating
more flexibility once you are generally healthy. Okay, So all
our classes are free next week. Also all month. For
my birthday, we're doing twenty five dollars float therapy sessions.
So just it's usually seventy, we're doing twenty. We're probably
giving it away. Come and float for an hour. In
case you don't know what float is, it's a tank
filled with saline solution. There's one thousand pounds of ebbs
and salt in this tank, so it's high in all
those minerals and magnesium. Most people know, like an some
salt baths is great if you're injured, if your muscle's hurt.
It's also good for people have trouble sleeping. It's good
for anxiety.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: By getting in a tank full of salt water, you
become weightless. Yeah, So it takes the pressure off the
nerves and the muscles and the joints. So people with
chronic illness like fibromyalgia, arthritis, bad backs, pregnancy, pregnant women
can float. We actually have a prenatal yoga class that
we do once a week, and we have prenatal massage
float and massage float and.
Speaker 2: Not the sauna.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the other thing is. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: Well, you got a lot going on.
Speaker 1: I know, we got a lot going on. We do postpartum. Oh,
that's what I'm saying. Postpartum. The red light therapy is good,
but no red light therapy during pregnancy, just because there's
never been any studies, and nobody's nobody's gonna take that
risk to try and study that.
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 1: But postpartum red light therapy helps the body heal faster.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just good for nursing mothers.
Speaker 1: It's very good. So we offer a lot of that stuff.
So the massage and the float therapy are on special
all month. Okay, ninety nine dollars for one hour massage
and twenty five dollars for a one hour float.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 1: And the float therapy is I want people to do
yoga because I think you have to do the work
to make yourself well. You can't. You were talking about medicine.
Can't take me medicine instead of taking care of yourself,
because one is passive and one is active, and it's
so easy to just do the passive thing. And I
think Western medicine and pharmaceutical companies have sold us on
this idea of you don't have to take care of yourself.
It's better living through chemistry. Remember those commercials, Yes, chemistry.
So they've sold us on this idea that we don't
have to do the work. Well, we offer both. We
have the passive stuff. You could sit in the float tank,
you could sit in the red light. Doing the work
of the yoga is so important because all this other
stuff that we offer was put there to help support
the work you're doing in the yoga practice. Yeah, but
everybody's welcome. You don't have to do yoga to come
and use the other stuff. Just you don't have to
be a member. That's off in a misconception, right to
remember the yoga studio. No, anybody can walk in and
do a float. Anybody can walk in and get a massage.
We have five massage surface. We offer a massage seven
days a week. It's hard to find.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, that is Yeah, so
we do.
Speaker 1: Days and evenings and weekends and and we are open
as a center five days a year. We actually have
yoga classes on Christmas and Thanksgiving and a lot of
people those are the days they need it either, because
loneliness is a major disease.
Speaker 3: Oh that's interesting. Oh so you actually offer that for something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And some people really have said to me, I'm so
grateful that I can come to my yoga before I
spend the day with my family, because the family can
be stressful and families can be messy. And they're you know,
but when you're taking care of yourself and you come
from a messy family, sometimes that's hard to back in
there to be able to come on Christmas morning and
then go spend time with people that you know and
be okay in yourself. Yeah, com and okay in yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely we clean them up right right there you go,
there you go. So the open house starts tomorrow and
then it goes through.
Speaker 2: It's for the week.
Speaker 1: The whole week. The whole week is free yoga, and
the whole month for the float and the massages on sale.
And to cap off the end of the week, which
is my actual birthday, we'll have free yoga next Saturday
as well, but also in the evening the community because
we do community events. We're doing a riverboat cruise down
the Merrimack that goes from behind the Tap in downtown
Hayral and then afterwards this cake back at the studio
and anyone's welcome. Oh cake.
Speaker 2: Very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're more than just you know, it's really
community and that's that idea of loneliness is really hard. Yeah,
but we create a community. So especially I think it's
hard to make new friends when you're an adult, and
it's hard to a lot of people lost a lot
of their community during COVID. Yeah, and they're not working
in the office anymore. They've stayed home to work. So
if you're somebody who's feeling a little on the lonely
side and think you need a community, come and check
us out just to meet some people and make some
new friends and find a space where you can come
and be chilled out and relaxed and be with people. Yeah,
and you don't even have to be that social. We
come in for an hour and a half class. You
don't have to talk to anybody, right, you could just
be in them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine this. There's probably some people who
it's their first time, maybe they're a little shy or whatnot,
and then they you probably see it right. Over time,
people kind of open up and they they become more
social if.
Speaker 1: We try to help that along. One of the things
we do at the studio is when you come in
your first time, or we make an effort to introduce
you to somebody who's been coming for a while, just
to say like, oh, by the way, hey Matt, this
is Elaine. He Lank comes every day and people calm
right down when they meet a link because she's she
tells you don't get every day. But she absolutely looks
like an eighty eight year old lady, Like that's you know,
that's what she looks like. And you start to go like, oh,
she can do this, I can do this, and yeah,
just didn't have somebody else there that you know their name?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I always tell people we do a postu where
we put our arms out to the side and say
say hello to your neighbor. And if you don't know
your neighbor's name, please introduce yourself after this. Yeah, that's
how we take a class and make it a community. Yeah,
we have people that are members of our community that
do not practice yoga. We have spouses, some people who
practice to come to our potlucks and our other events,
know them and we know them. We feel like we
know them well and they're part of our community. So
you don't have to practice yoga to be part of
that community. You just have to come in the door.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's really cool, especially you know, we live
in an era where you know, there are there are
online communities, and I think I think for some people
that's interacting with online communities, and social media has kind
of supplanted what was at one time more actually going
out and seeing people. So I think it's I think
what you're doing when you talk about community, I think
that's really important.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of community is built around that,
going out, drinking and eating and all this stuff. And
if you're struggling with those things in your life, they
have another place that isn't that. It's it's often very hard,
especially for people, if you give up smoking and drinking
that what do I do? That You often sometimes lose
your social group. Yeah, and I think that in recovery,
a lot of people find loneliness. They come from families
that have drinking or drugs as part of their social interaction,
and you know, and so to find a place where
you can feel like you fit in. I'm not saying
you have to give up smoking and drinking to come
to yoga either, but it's a new place to go
that isn't the old patterns, and it's all focused on
being good to yourself and feeling good about yourself as
opposed to hiding how you're feeling and hiding who you
are and hiding all that stuff. Come and be exactly
who you.
Speaker 2: Are, right right.
Speaker 3: No, I think that's wonderful. I think that's wonderful. Well,
so before we run out of time. Oh, the website.
Speaker 1: Website wellness hot yoga dot com. We just got a
new website. I hope everybody enjoys it. Yeah, all the
information about the open houses on there, as well as
anything about our other services that we offer. You're always
welcome to call the phone number nine seven eight six
eight nine nine six four two. I tell people it
brings through to my cell phone, so you know, if
somebody's there to answer the phone, somebody will try to
answer the phone. And just stop in. It's at thirty
four more Rex Freet in downtown Haveril in this beautiful
new Harbor Place building across from the big giant new
coming parking garage. Right now they've taken down the parking garage.
We have quite a bit of construction going on across
the street. But come by and just stop in. We
have a lovely meditation You and I have sat in
the meditation area chatted. We always have tea back there.
People can sit, anyone can wander and have a cup
of tea, talk to us find out what we're offering.
There's no obligation to do anything but come in and
be you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely no.
Speaker 2: I think it's awesome. I think it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Well I'm glad, I'm glad you got here early because
I knew we'd have a lot to talk about. This
has been wonderful, so thank you, Terry, and I also
want to remind people too before we go. Of course,
this coming Friday night, John Poussett Dart will be at
the or actually the John Possett Dart Duo will be
performing at the Rex Theater right here in Manchester. And
if you miss it, John called in at the top
of the second hour and really enjoyed talking with him.
And of course don't forget also one week from today
and we'll you know, we'll talk about it. Of course
next Saturday, but September fourteenth, from four to eight pm
on Hanover Street, the Mosaic Art Collective proudly presents their
annual Full Circle the Speed of Light as they celebrate
their birthday as well. And Jenny has one of one
of her amazing paintings hanging up there, so proud of her,
and she'll be back next week she's a little under
the weather, but she'll be here with us next week
and we'll we'll close out with a song in a moment.
But Terry, thank you again so much, and we.
Speaker 4: Will we will leave you with this.
Speaker 3: I haven't played this in a while. This is a
song called Reconnection from Eons Encoded and this is this
is a great way to end the show, I think.
But Terry almquis wellness, hot yoga and haverl. Absolutely thank you.
And if you missed any part of today's show, it'll
be up in just a little bit wmnhradio dot org
and my website Matt Connorton dot com. I'll talk to
you a little bit later.
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