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Speaker 3: I will say this, I thought by now, not nerves,
Speaker 3: because it wouldn't be nerves, but like I thought, by
Speaker 3: now I would be feeling a little not even worried,
Speaker 3: but just thinking, like about a scenario where Louisville kind
Speaker 3: of takes away all of the good vibes they gave
Speaker 3: us by winning at Clemson two weeks later, turning a
Speaker 3: losing to the worst team in the league. And I
Speaker 3: never would have like believed that that should happen. But usually,
Speaker 3: you know, I get a little worried. As we get
Speaker 3: closer to game day. I try to in my mind
Speaker 3: think about different scenarios that would potentially, you know, give
Speaker 3: us different reactions. But I just can't see a scenario
Speaker 3: where Louisville loses this game. But hey, that's the kind
Speaker 3: of thing somebody says and then it happens. But you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna believe in the power of positivity. Positivity today
Speaker 3: because Louisville throughout the year has shown when it comes
Speaker 3: to football that they've they've been a good team. Now
Speaker 3: how good they are, I mean, if you play good
Speaker 3: teams close but don't win, it's all subjective. I mean,
Speaker 3: winning and losing is ultimately how you are evaluated. And
Speaker 3: they've got enough wins and then they've got a big
Speaker 3: win against Clemson, so I'm confident that they're going to
Speaker 3: be able to take care of business. The only concern
Speaker 3: would be the awkwardness of playing in an empty stadium. Maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully jet lag wouldn't be getting them. They
Speaker 3: flew out yesterday I think, or maybe they flew out today.
Speaker 3: Either way, by the time this thing kicks off to
Speaker 3: tomorrow afternoon, I mean, hopefully jet lag has worn off
Speaker 3: since then, but it is awkward just to think about
Speaker 3: Louisville traveling that far to play a game this late
Speaker 3: in the year against a team that is bad, and
Speaker 3: we'll have no fans in the stands, so you know,
Speaker 3: that's the only thing that could potentially cause an issue.
Speaker 3: Louisll's clearly a lot better than Stanford, and even in
Speaker 3: games this year where they did have letdowns, let's be real,
Speaker 3: they were against really good teams. So I'm hopeful that
Speaker 3: they can take care of business. And I say take
Speaker 3: care of business because I'll be a little preoccupied tomorrow,
Speaker 3: meaning I'll be keeping up and I'll be watching, but
Speaker 3: a lot of it will probably be on my phone
Speaker 3: or depending on where I'm at at the time. But
Speaker 3: I'm not doing the postgame show tomorrow, so that leaves
Speaker 3: you in good hands with the one and only Austin Montgomery.
Speaker 3: That's right, Are you fired up?
Speaker 2: I listen? I am ready. I was hoping today would
Speaker 2: be Saturday. That's how ready I am.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're ready. You still got twenty four hours
Speaker 3: before he gets here. But I feel like you're going
Speaker 3: to have the task of leading a postgame show when
Speaker 3: Louisville has their biggest victory of the season as far
Speaker 3: as you know margin. Let's be honest, they played two
Speaker 3: bumps to start the season, and they blew those teams out,
Speaker 3: and that's what you would expect. But really every step
Speaker 3: of the way it's been rather competitive and they won,
Speaker 3: or it's been really competitive and they have a heartbreaker.
Speaker 3: I think tomorrow is the beat down, which is expected,
Speaker 3: so you know, I'm kind of just ready for them
Speaker 3: to get past this one and then bring in Pitt
Speaker 3: for what is the the you know, the ultimate. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's the last home game of the season, so it's
Speaker 3: Senior night. It's your last chance to go watch this
Speaker 3: team play. It'll be either at three thirty or four o'clock, which,
Speaker 3: as we discussed earlier this week, like it's not a
Speaker 3: night game, meaning that like it kicks off at night,
Speaker 3: but by halftime, it's probably gonna be dark outside. And
Speaker 3: you never know how much weather's gonna change from one
Speaker 3: week to the other. But I did see that there's
Speaker 3: already some potential minor snow showers or even I guess
Speaker 3: maybe flurries, but there could be snow next weekend, which
Speaker 3: I know that might keep people away, But I think
Speaker 3: that would be awesome unless it's you know, like ten
Speaker 3: degrees outside, so Pittsburgh obviously Louisville hopefully they can win out.
Speaker 3: I mean that's best case scenario, and really that should
Speaker 3: be the expectation. And I'll get into some numbers later on,
Speaker 3: because Louisville as of now has played one of the
Speaker 3: toughest schedules in the country. Now moving forward, their schedule,
Speaker 3: like the remaining strength to schedule, it's really light because
Speaker 3: of who you have tomorrow. Pitt they fall in recently,
Speaker 3: but there's still solid. Obviously Kentucky's having a really rough year,
Speaker 3: so you kind of have You've gotten through what was
Speaker 3: viewed as you know, the real challenges, and unfortunately you
Speaker 3: didn't come through in a few of them, but you
Speaker 3: did in the most recent one that clearly meant a lot,
Speaker 3: and I hope that it gives this team some momentum
Speaker 3: down the stretch here. But the acc scenarios, this is
Speaker 3: something that I wanted to reset here to start the show,
Speaker 3: because we talked about a little bit yesterday, but I
Speaker 3: waited until the four o'clock hour to get into it.
Speaker 3: And yet I still keep hearing people and I don't
Speaker 3: know if you just don't want to be proven wrong,
Speaker 3: because here's the thing. When I tell you there's no
Speaker 3: possibility that Louisville ends up in the ACC Championship game,
Speaker 3: you can be the well actually guy, you can tell me, well,
Speaker 3: you're wrong. There is a possibility. So, like, I don't
Speaker 3: know why those that have a platform, rather it be writing, television, streaming, radio,
Speaker 3: they refuse to say that Louisville's not going to be
Speaker 3: in the ACC Championship Game. And I think it might
Speaker 3: be because they're worried about the correction police. They're worried
Speaker 3: about the well actually guy. And I'm here to tell
Speaker 3: you I don't give a damn about the well actually
Speaker 3: guy or the correction police, because let's live on planet Earth,
Speaker 3: let's live in reality. And I'm not doing this till
Speaker 3: like down Louisville. This is not like an anti Louisville thing,
Speaker 3: but like Pittsburgh would need to beat Clemson among many
Speaker 3: other things for that to happen. So I'll give credit
Speaker 3: words due the one and only Rick Bozych, president of
Speaker 3: the Kenny Payne Fan Club. He puts something up at
Speaker 3: WDRB dot com that really lays it out much better
Speaker 3: than I probably did yesterday. Should I stop doing the
Speaker 3: digs at Bosich about Kenny Payne, I probably should. I
Speaker 3: probably should. I mean everything I said it really did happen.
Speaker 3: But like you know, it's in the past, and he
Speaker 3: does good work. And I've always had great respect for Rick.
Speaker 3: But because I would just, you know it, whenever, I
Speaker 3: would try to make everybody aware how he was so
Speaker 3: objective for so many decades and he's such he's done
Speaker 3: really good work as a as a journalist that I vow.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's somebody that I seek out his
Speaker 3: work to read, and he's always been fair and objective,
Speaker 3: and then for some reason with Kenny Payin, he wasn't.
Speaker 3: And it, you know, I wanted to make it clear
Speaker 3: that like this guy, like what's going on here, don't
Speaker 3: don't don't think that this guy, because he's always been
Speaker 3: fair and consistent, is doing the exact thing with Kenny Payne.
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I'll probably I'm gonna I'm gonna make it,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it a point to never reference those
Speaker 3: two together again. But like I'm not you're a You're
Speaker 3: a Louisville fan. Austin you've you've not worked on this
Speaker 3: show full time till recently. Like it was a well
Speaker 3: known thing among the Louisville community that Rick Bosicch is
Speaker 3: really making himself look foolish by acting like Kenny Payne
Speaker 3: wasn't a terrible coach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, back and forth?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, No, there was no back and forth.
Speaker 1: He never said a word to me, which is just
Speaker 1: like all the you know, I remember hearing.
Speaker 3: You remember me making fun of him? You probably yes,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, I probably shouldn't have, but it
Speaker 3: it was never personal. It was just, you know, like
Speaker 3: when people say things that like everybody knows is nonsense.
Speaker 3: That usually doesn't you know, that happens every day in life.
Speaker 3: You know, you don't know what's real anymore when it
Speaker 3: comes to what people are yapping about on the internet. However,
Speaker 3: Rick is somebody. For a long time, both sides thought
Speaker 3: that he hated their team. And you know what that means.
Speaker 3: That means that like he's doing a good job, he's
Speaker 3: not a homer, and for some reason he became a
Speaker 3: homer for Kenny Payin and I never understood it. So
Speaker 3: I just wanted to acknowledge, Hey, you usually can trust
Speaker 3: this guy to be fair. He's not being honest and
Speaker 3: fair this time, so it bothered me more than it
Speaker 3: should have. But Rick does great work and he's the
Speaker 3: one who put this together that I want to uh
Speaker 3: to bring up here because here is let's see, by
Speaker 3: the way, another notable stat about Stanford that we need
Speaker 3: to discuss here. They've thrown more interceptions than touchdowns this
Speaker 3: year on the season, and then they've had multiple quarterbacks play,
Speaker 3: so they've allowed twenty three passing touchdowns, which of course
Speaker 3: is more than anybody in the ACC. Their next the
Speaker 3: last in total offense and total defense. They stink really bad.
Speaker 3: So again that's another confidence booster for me to where
Speaker 3: Louisville they're playing a team that might be the worst team.
Speaker 3: In fact, there's no might to it this team, and
Speaker 3: it is across the country. They are at home, and
Speaker 3: you know, crazier things have happened. But the more I
Speaker 3: look at it, Louisville should be favored by more than
Speaker 3: twenty because Stanford is quite literally the worst team you've played,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe since you played Austin p in Week one
Speaker 3: Jacksonville State. They've actually turned it on and been pretty
Speaker 3: good for who they are Stanford. They suck. So anyways,
Speaker 3: here's the scenario where Louisville can find themselves in the
Speaker 3: ACC Championship game. And I don't mean this won't happen,
Speaker 3: but here's what is worth sharing because it is a
Speaker 3: little confusing. But again, it just speaks to how many
Speaker 3: things that are unlikely to happen need to happen for
Speaker 3: it to even be a possibility. So I'll read directly
Speaker 3: from WDRB dot comedy. So it is the clearest path Louisville,
Speaker 3: the clearspath Louisville has to sneak back into the a
Speaker 3: SEC Championship game. Discussion begins with Pittsburgh beating Clemson, which
Speaker 3: could happen, but I don't think it'll happen. Now. If
Speaker 3: that happens, what that does is it actually takes Then
Speaker 3: this is the reason I wanted to bring it up,
Speaker 3: because that result would, I guess, for maybe just a moment,
Speaker 3: keep hope alive for something that is not going to
Speaker 3: happen as far as the a SEC title game. But
Speaker 3: what it would do is it would diminish your win
Speaker 3: against Clemson, and it would actually, you know, I guess,
Speaker 3: I guess it would make Pittsburgh a more challenging opponent
Speaker 3: where there's more opportunity for you to get value if
Speaker 3: you beat them when they come to town next week.
Speaker 3: But that's the first part of it. So playoff status
Speaker 3: dot com. It's a website that tracks the conference championship
Speaker 3: probabilities playoff probabilities for all college and pro teams. Currently,
Speaker 3: Louisville's likelihood of being in the championship game is seven percent,
Speaker 3: which I feel like, you know, I'm sure they're crunching numbers.
Speaker 3: That's a real number, but to me, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: feel like it seems like more more of a one
Speaker 3: percent type of thing happening. But are we good? Are
Speaker 3: we good?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I just have a couple
Speaker 1: of questions for the big games.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you let me worry that we weren't on
Speaker 3: the air or something.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're good.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I spaz out, I lose my train of
Speaker 3: thought and I start I have a panic attack, even
Speaker 3: though nothing's wrong. So that's on me. It's on me.
Speaker 3: But anyways, back to to the whole acc race here.
Speaker 3: So Louisville of course lost SMU SMU five and zero
Speaker 3: and They've got three league games to play. They're nineteen
Speaker 3: and a half point favorites against Boston College tomorrow, and
Speaker 3: they're gonna probably be double digit favorites against Virginia and Cal.
Speaker 3: Who are there, you know, next two opponents after Boston
Speaker 3: College tomorrow. So you know, SMU is getting in the
Speaker 3: title game. I mean, that would be the biggest shocker
Speaker 3: of all is if they lose to one of these
Speaker 3: three teams. I mean, it could happen, but I just
Speaker 3: think it seems insanely unlikely. So Cle six and one,
Speaker 3: Miami five and one, Louisville four and two, and Pit
Speaker 3: three and two. These are the teams that, by technicality,
Speaker 3: can still say they're alive in the race for the
Speaker 3: you know, for the ACC championship game. Now Miami their
Speaker 3: most recent loss was their first, so they've got Wake
Speaker 3: in Syracuse, which they should win. Those are not teams
Speaker 3: that I think anybody would view as real challenges for Miami.
Speaker 3: Now again, I know, Miami nearly lost to Cal, and
Speaker 3: Louisville had him on the ropes. They should have lost
Speaker 3: to Virginia Tech. I forgot about who it was, But
Speaker 3: that was a game A little bit, a little bit
Speaker 3: earlier in the season. So Miami has shown us that
Speaker 3: they are vulnerable, and I guess we'll find out in
Speaker 3: the next couple of weeks. Here are they vulnerable to
Speaker 3: the point where like maybe somebody cracked them and they're
Speaker 3: just they're going to start losing, or are they you know,
Speaker 3: gonna be able to roll teams like they have at
Speaker 3: times this year. So again that I mean, the most
Speaker 3: likely scenario is that Miami and SMU end up in
Speaker 3: the championship game. I mean, I think right now that
Speaker 3: is that's what's to happen. So what Louisville needs is
Speaker 3: Miami to lose to one of those games, and I
Speaker 3: just don't think that's gonna happen now. Louisville also needs,
Speaker 3: as we mentioned earlier, Clemson to lose to pit tomorrow unlikely.
Speaker 3: So if Louisville beat Stanford and Pitt in these next
Speaker 3: two weeks, they could finish with a three way tie
Speaker 3: with Miami and Clemson. Obviously, Miami Clemson did not play
Speaker 3: in the regular season, they're likely to meet in the
Speaker 3: a SEC championship game. As you know, Louisville lost to Miami,
Speaker 3: but they but you know, but they would have defeated
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh at that time. So what would what it would
Speaker 3: come down to is the fact that these three schools
Speaker 3: don't share any common opponents, which is really really unusual.
Speaker 3: I would say this is maybe one of the better
Speaker 3: examples you'll find as far as understanding that these no
Speaker 3: divisions within these big conferences, as they continue to expand,
Speaker 3: is gonna make it to where you can you know,
Speaker 3: you could try your best to give balanced schedules, but
Speaker 3: it's gonna be really tough to do, especially if you've
Speaker 3: got not a whole lot of parody in your league.
Speaker 3: So they have no common opponents, So the next tiebreaker
Speaker 3: would be the combined winning percentage of each team's conference opponents.
Speaker 3: And that's where if these things played out, Louisville would win,
Speaker 3: and it wouldn't even be close as far as the
Speaker 3: tie breaker. So they take again the winning percentage of
Speaker 3: everybody you've played in conference, Louisville, And again this speaks
Speaker 3: to not only Louisville being a team that you know
Speaker 3: is I mean again, Louisville is in the top twenty
Speaker 3: right now of the college football playoff rankings because one,
Speaker 3: they have a good record, but they also have a
Speaker 3: really really good strength to schedule, and the teams that
Speaker 3: they lost to are good. Louisville right now, they're opponents
Speaker 3: in ACC play their records twenty nine to eighteen. So
Speaker 3: think about that. The combined record of the ACC teams
Speaker 3: that Louisville has played, they are eleven games above five
Speaker 3: HUNDREDAMMI is in second place. Their opponents combined record twenty
Speaker 3: one and twenty eight, a forty two percent winning percentage
Speaker 3: compared to Louisville's nearly sixty two percent winning percentage. As
Speaker 3: far as their combined opponents, Clemson even worse nineteen and
Speaker 3: twenty nine for a thirty nine percent winning percentage. So
Speaker 3: if you get there, you're in good shape. For that
Speaker 3: reason alone, getting there, I think is what is nearly impossible.
Speaker 3: And as somebody's already brought up on the text line here,
Speaker 3: and you're right, the things that you need to happen individually,
Speaker 3: although not predictable, aren't crazy. We're not asking, you know,
Speaker 3: a flag football team to come in and play the
Speaker 3: eighty five Bears, but all of those things to happen,
Speaker 3: that's where I feel like it's impossible. And that's why
Speaker 3: it's just a seven percent chance of you getting there,
Speaker 3: So I don't bring it up to you know, I
Speaker 3: don't bring it up to rain on anybody's parade or
Speaker 3: anything like that if you are somebody still holding onto
Speaker 3: that seven percent. But like, I haven't done the show yet,
Speaker 3: and I probably won't do it to where we're acting
Speaker 3: as if that's a real thing. So just you know,
Speaker 3: keep that in mind. That's a disclaimer for you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: The other reason I thought of it is because I'd
Speaker 3: prefer louill I mean again, actually let me ask you this, Austin,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just there's no right or wrong answer.
Speaker 3: It's just preference, Ma man, Louisville beating Clemson. That's their
Speaker 3: big value, right, Yes, they have an opportunity to beat
Speaker 3: Pitt next week, which right now will be a solid win,
Speaker 3: but certainly not anything close to what you did at Clemson.
Speaker 3: It looks good on a resume, yeah, but not, I mean,
Speaker 3: but not enough to probably well, you would end up
Speaker 3: being able to say that you beat one of the
Speaker 3: better teams in the ACCA. But what would you rather
Speaker 3: prefer Louisville being able to continue to hold on to
Speaker 3: that special win against Clemson and really just prop up
Speaker 3: that value or Clemson losing to pitt which makes your
Speaker 3: win not look as impressive against them. But then maybe
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh win has some more value on it because
Speaker 3: now they've lost two games, but they just be Clemson.
Speaker 3: So I'd prefer Clemson stay unbeaten. That way, you know,
Speaker 3: you get to the end of the year, like Clempson
Speaker 3: could win the ACC. Folks like I don't know they will,
Speaker 3: but if you can claim that, you know, it might
Speaker 3: make you feel even more bitter about what happened earlier
Speaker 3: this year with some of the setbacks against the other teams.
Speaker 3: But if Clemson wins the ACC, that would end up
Speaker 3: with Louisville continuing to be able to climb in these
Speaker 3: rankings each week, if in fact they can, you know,
Speaker 3: hold on and beat Stanford, pitt and Kentucky. So again,
Speaker 3: there's no right or wrong answer, but I feel like
Speaker 3: the scenario where Louisville could end the season looking like
Speaker 3: a really good team that just you know, had some
Speaker 3: setbacks early that kept them out maybe that if it's
Speaker 3: a sixteen team playoff, you're end I think the best
Speaker 3: scenario where that happens will be when we'll be if
Speaker 3: Clemson wins out and wins the ACC So that's kind
Speaker 3: of what I'm pulling for. But again, you know it's
Speaker 3: kind of all for nothing.
Speaker 2: You know, thinking about that, I was going to kind
Speaker 2: of go the different way because you could just kind
Speaker 2: of like parlay the wins, like, all right, let's get
Speaker 2: the win over Clemson, cause it didn't mean something when
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 1: Beat them when they were ranked. And especially the whole situation.
Speaker 2: I know that they don't look at their undefeated at
Speaker 2: home at night and however many years.
Speaker 3: But people know, yeah, it's not the committee's not considering
Speaker 3: it right, but you know, people know like that that
Speaker 3: didn't happen often, and Louisill beat them worse than the
Speaker 3: score actually showing.
Speaker 2: So if they remain on and stay strong, I guess
Speaker 2: like you'd hate you'd feel bad for it, but you
Speaker 2: want Clemson to kind of bounce back and kind of
Speaker 2: show some dominance. That way, you can kind of hold
Speaker 2: that over them if something happens is what was like
Speaker 2: a seven percent chance if you wanted to really make
Speaker 2: that come to perish and just like sit there at
Speaker 2: the end of the year and say, I mean, look
Speaker 2: how they bounce back from that. Louisville look how bad
Speaker 2: Louisville beat Clemson. It changed our whole season basically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And look, there are some people that see seven percent.
Speaker 3: They know that that's not a great percentage, but they
Speaker 3: just believe in magic and maybe and I hope you're right,
Speaker 3: because that'd be insane. I mean, talk about a complete,
Speaker 3: you know, unexpected awesome thing happening. So speaking of awesome
Speaker 3: things happening this weekend, man, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: if people realize this because obviously, you know, it's football
Speaker 3: season and you got the big Jake Paul Mike Tyson
Speaker 3: fight tonight, which I want to talk about that. On
Speaker 3: the other side, we definitely need to get to that.
Speaker 3: I haven't talked about it at all, and I'll kind
Speaker 3: of explain my thoughts on the whole thing on the
Speaker 3: other side. But do you all realize we got some
Speaker 3: amazing college basketball games tonight in November on a Friday night,
Speaker 3: So gonna be an awesome sports weekend looking forward to.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about it throughout these next two and a
Speaker 3: half hours roughly. But again, the Tyson Paul fight, I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like nobody's really saying it out loud, at
Speaker 3: least that I've heard, but I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people are kind of on the same page as far
Speaker 3: as how they view this entire thing, So we'll get
Speaker 3: to that next. It's coffee and company. We're feel about
Speaker 3: Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven ninety guys. I
Speaker 3: wasn't kidding when I told you that we have a
Speaker 3: phenomenal Friday evening of college basketball games, which I know
Speaker 3: some people will be watching, but others will probably be
Speaker 3: watching the Mike Tyson in Jake Paul fight. But let
Speaker 3: me just give you a quick little rundown here because
Speaker 3: I'm want to plan on probably in the five o'clock hour,
Speaker 3: talking about some of these matchups because I'm gonna bet
Speaker 3: on them. I mean, you got number two Alabama at
Speaker 3: Purdue tonight, who's number thirteen, another ranked matchup between Ohio State,
Speaker 3: who's taken on Texas A and m number twenty one,
Speaker 3: Moth number twenty three. And then even though these other
Speaker 3: teams aren't ranked, this is just a rare Friday night
Speaker 3: where you've got you know, teams you've heard of in
Speaker 3: power leagues playing each other. Arizona at Wisconsin. Arizona's a
Speaker 3: top ten team, number fifteen, Marquette at Maryland Number twenty,
Speaker 3: Florida at Florida State, TCU at Michigan SMU at Butler,
Speaker 3: Virginia at Villanova Virginia Tech against Penn State West Virginia
Speaker 3: against Pick Georgia at Georgia Tech. So again, I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people haven't really shifted to college basketball
Speaker 3: as far as you know, consuming it other than your
Speaker 3: own team Louisville and Kentucky. But this is an insanely
Speaker 3: awesome Friday night in November, which you know it'll never
Speaker 3: compete with college football, that's not realistic, but hey, it's
Speaker 3: a pretty good slate of games to where if you
Speaker 3: are a college back baketball junkie like myself, you can
Speaker 3: certainly be be entertained by what happens tonight. Now, again,
Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of the attention in the
Speaker 3: sports world, which it is a sport, but people don't
Speaker 3: really look at Jake Paul like like an athlete like
Speaker 3: they view Mike Tyson, and Mike Tyson clearly an athlete
Speaker 3: and a phenomenal boxer who's a legend, but he's also
Speaker 3: an old man. Now, so tonight they're gonna fight on Netflix.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be in Dallas at Jerry World and if
Speaker 3: you have Netflix, you can watch it for free. If
Speaker 3: you want to watch it for free, or if you
Speaker 3: want to watch it, you have to sign up for Netflix.
Speaker 3: And they don't like Netflix. I'll give them this, They're
Speaker 3: certainly not in a position where they need to do
Speaker 3: trials anymore, Like is that still a thing? Like he
Speaker 3: used to be able to sign up for all these
Speaker 3: streaming services and get a trial, but now like it's
Speaker 3: that you know what you're getting, Like there's really no
Speaker 3: need for a trial. You're gonna have to pay for it,
Speaker 3: and you know, you got to decide if you want
Speaker 3: it or not, and if you do, you pay. There's
Speaker 3: no contract. I mean, you can cancel and not keep paying,
Speaker 3: at least I think you can. So you know, this
Speaker 3: is gonna sound like such a recentcy biased kind of
Speaker 3: thing to say, but it's really not that recent. I've
Speaker 3: had Netflix for over ten years. Like if you're consuming
Speaker 3: some if you're consuming content on your TV. And I
Speaker 3: said it that way because I don't mean like live TV,
Speaker 3: Like I can't imagine people not having Netflix, and Netflix
Speaker 3: is it times not? Even like I find myself really
Speaker 3: binging more so Apple TV shows. I mean, all the
Speaker 3: networks I think have at least one thing where I
Speaker 3: really you know, in fact, Showtime got absorbed by one
Speaker 3: of them. I might be HBO Max, but like Showtime
Speaker 3: never never got the right pub in pr because they
Speaker 3: had some of the best shows I've ever watched. So
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine there are people right now that
Speaker 3: don't have Netflix, that have never had Netflix, that are
Speaker 3: gonna have to sign up tonight. So but look, I'm
Speaker 3: sure there's millions of them. It's just people that I
Speaker 3: can't really relate to. I would say, if you're signing
Speaker 3: up tonight, and I'm just guessing here, maybe I'm way
Speaker 3: off and we'll never know. But the majority of the
Speaker 3: people tonight that are gonna be signing up to watch
Speaker 3: this had it at one point and then just didn't
Speaker 3: justify the expense because it got more pricey, and they
Speaker 3: just don't stream a whole lot right like in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four, if you still watch content on your television,
Speaker 3: and I don't you know, when I say watch TV,
Speaker 3: A lot of people watch TV now using the internet.
Speaker 3: That's YouTube TV. So maybe they will get a bunch
Speaker 3: of new subscriptions tonight. But it's one of those things
Speaker 3: where I'm curious, like, how do you like they're gonna
Speaker 3: make a ton of money with this? Meaning everybody involved,
Speaker 3: Jake Paul and obviously Mike Tyson, But I don't know
Speaker 3: if this is gonna lead to enough sign ups to
Speaker 3: where it's gonna justify. But you know, I'm sure they
Speaker 3: know a lot more about it. In fact, I know
Speaker 3: they know a lot more about the cost and the
Speaker 3: profit margin and all that kind of stuff. So you know,
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you what I think is happening here.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be something that a lot of people tune
Speaker 3: into watch. It's there's gonna be a lot of excitement
Speaker 3: for it. But I feel like nobody really views this
Speaker 3: as a real boxing match. And I don't mean to
Speaker 3: say that you know that Jake Paul's not a real boxer,
Speaker 3: because I mean he is now how he's decided to
Speaker 3: really navigate his career, and I mean it's, first of all,
Speaker 3: it's really impressive that he's been able to come basically
Speaker 3: a self made billionaire, and he knows that like by
Speaker 3: being just good enough to beat the boxers that he fights.
Speaker 3: Rather it be somebody that used to do UFC or
Speaker 3: somebody that's a boxer but maybe not that accomplished, Like
Speaker 3: he has navigated this thing flawlessly to where there are
Speaker 3: enough people that view like, hey, he could he could
Speaker 3: box just about anybody. He's that good. And then there's
Speaker 3: others that, you know, can't really dispute his record, but
Speaker 3: yet they say, well, he's gonna have to, you know,
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to really go out there and and
Speaker 3: take on, you know, some of the best boxers in
Speaker 3: the world. And I don't even know who that is
Speaker 3: right now. Mike Tyson certainly is one of the X
Speaker 3: boxers of all time. But again another strategic move by
Speaker 3: mister Paul here because he's fighting Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson's
Speaker 3: old now, like he's not, I mean, he's old. So
Speaker 3: I'm impressed with everything Jake Paul's been able to do
Speaker 3: and really become, as mentioned, a self made billionaire. But
Speaker 3: I feel like the end anticipation for this isn't because
Speaker 3: people are like, man, I can't wait to see I
Speaker 3: can't mean, and there are some people that are like man,
Speaker 3: I hate it. But Jake Paul's gonna kill Mike Tyson
Speaker 3: or people say, oh my goodness, this guy doesn't al
Speaker 3: he's getting in the ring with Mike Tyson is an animal.
Speaker 3: I know those people exist, but I feel like the
Speaker 3: majority probably is where I'm at, where I'm gonna watch.
Speaker 3: It's certainly you know it's something, but like I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be surprised if like it was a setup, like if
Speaker 3: it was kind of rigged, you know, and there was
Speaker 3: one event that that Paul was in, which was it
Speaker 3: where there was like there was never any proof, but
Speaker 3: like there was enough signs that yeah, there's a reason
Speaker 3: people think that all this is just like these guys
Speaker 3: will lose to him because they're gonna get paid money
Speaker 3: they've never made before, even when they were on top
Speaker 3: of the game, whether it be UFC or boxing, because
Speaker 3: that's what that's the that's the eyeballs in viewership. This
Speaker 3: guy brings to where there's gonna be a crazy payday.
Speaker 3: They'll take a hit. I mean, we're talking about generating
Speaker 3: like generational wealth for some of these people. When it
Speaker 3: comes to the in they blow it all. If they
Speaker 3: invested wisely, You're gonna get paid to fight Jake Paul
Speaker 3: and take a loss to where if you're smart, you
Speaker 3: can set that up for your children, your children's children. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know people do that or not. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm excited, but it's not like I have the feeling
Speaker 3: as if you know, this is this is this is
Speaker 3: the same thing, as you know, I can't even again,
Speaker 3: Boxing's fallen off so hard to where I don't even
Speaker 3: I can't even think of the last time like Pacquiao Mayweather.
Speaker 3: I remember it was on Derby Night many many many
Speaker 3: years ago, like maybe I don't know, roughly eight nine years.
Speaker 1: Ago, twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that sounds about right. So that that
Speaker 3: felt like to me where like here we go like
Speaker 3: this is this is the best thing boxing has had
Speaker 3: in a long time. This is actually going to get
Speaker 3: more attention than that, especially with the streaming world. But
Speaker 3: it's to me, it's just not the same thing for
Speaker 3: obvious reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah, technically it is a sanctioned fight and it is
Speaker 2: going to count for both fighters records too, So I
Speaker 2: guess I don't know what that evens anything out when
Speaker 2: it comes to the.
Speaker 1: Aspect of, oh, is this rigged or not?
Speaker 2: And Jake Paul has lost before he lost to what's
Speaker 2: his name, Tyson F's kid, Tommy Fury. I guess he
Speaker 2: technically lost, like was sometime last year. Yeah, I'm looking up.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three is when he lost to Tommy Fury,
Speaker 2: and I think that that was like a decision. It
Speaker 2: wasn't like a knockout or anything like that. But Tommy
Speaker 2: Fury is like a legit like young boxer.
Speaker 3: So I had no recollection of that, which again sped
Speaker 3: the power of Jake Paul on the internet to where
Speaker 3: like he control I mean again, the reason I didn't
Speaker 3: know that's probably because I don't pay attention to boxing,
Speaker 3: and this really is boxing and it just really isn't
Speaker 3: my thing. I'll be honest with you. This has been
Speaker 3: talked about for a long time because they had to
Speaker 3: postponent right, it was supposed to take place in the summer,
Speaker 3: is that right?
Speaker 1: And they supposed Yeah, it was supposed to happen like June.
Speaker 3: You know that they held off because Mike Tyson was
Speaker 3: having some medical issues because you know, he for a
Speaker 3: for a career. You know, he fought like he you know,
Speaker 3: he's not somebody that's had a desk job for you know,
Speaker 3: fifty eight years. He's a fifty eight year old man
Speaker 3: who probably is older than that in a lot of aspects,
Speaker 3: because again, what he chose to do for a living
Speaker 3: box and you know, beat people's heads in more often
Speaker 3: than he got his head beat in, but certainly in boxing,
Speaker 3: like you're gonna have your fair share of wear and tear,
Speaker 3: so to speak. So I didn't even realize this was
Speaker 3: tonight until yesterday I said something Austin. I was like, man,
Speaker 3: we should probably talk about that tomorrow. So, I mean, again,
Speaker 3: you know better than I do people. I mean, are
Speaker 3: there still people that just assume that this guy's a
Speaker 3: total fraud?
Speaker 2: Meeting Paul I, I'm pretty sure that's still like in
Speaker 2: the like the Internet world and the Twitter world that
Speaker 2: I consue myself in, that seems to be a thing.
Speaker 2: But there I feel like recently there's been a lot
Speaker 2: of not a lot, but maybe there's a small amount
Speaker 2: of people that actually are like, you know, what this
Speaker 2: dude is is not honestly all that bad. At this point,
Speaker 2: he's been practicing, Addie has obviously been doing phenomenal for years.
Speaker 2: He's in great shape, and he's got some fights under
Speaker 2: his belt, a lot of questionable fights, mind you, but
Speaker 2: I mean still, this is he's got he's got his
Speaker 2: boxing legs under him. So I think everyone's it's in
Speaker 2: that prime to where everyone's just now wants to see
Speaker 2: him lose because they do think he is a giant
Speaker 2: d bag.
Speaker 3: Still, he is one of I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: unless you're somebody that is relatively in his age range.
Speaker 3: He's twenty seven years old, Jake Paul is and still
Speaker 3: very young. I am, I'm thirty. I'm nine years younger
Speaker 3: than him, so look better than them though, thank you
Speaker 3: appreciate that. Really do nothing like getting gassed up on
Speaker 3: a Friday week get the weekend started right. But you know,
Speaker 3: he's somebody that I think people around my age and
Speaker 3: certainly people older, a lot of them now as we
Speaker 3: speak on November fifteen, twenty twenty four, they know who
Speaker 3: he is, but they don't know why he's famous. Yes,
Speaker 3: like him and his brother Logan, they turned in going
Speaker 3: viral on a platform that's been gone for about ten
Speaker 3: years now. Vine. They were big there and then they
Speaker 3: became YouTubers. And I remember, you know this makes me
Speaker 3: sound like an old fogie. I remember Jake Paul being
Speaker 3: like a you know, an online celebrity, and you know,
Speaker 3: he had a million followers on YouTube. He was a celebrity.
Speaker 3: But I remember, like, but for what, like what and
Speaker 3: then now it's now you can just i mean be
Speaker 3: a YouTuber Like yeah, but I remember in the early
Speaker 3: stages before that, because he was a pioneer and he's
Speaker 3: probably done it. I mean, couldn't you make the claim
Speaker 3: that Jake Paul and Logan Paul have become people who
Speaker 3: have become insanely famous, especially within their demograph, and they're
Speaker 3: really and again, it's a talent to be able to
Speaker 3: do that, meaning to be able to generate that much
Speaker 3: viewership and keep people interested whether they love you or
Speaker 3: hate you. They're consuming what you're doing, they know who
Speaker 3: you are. That's a talent in itself. But like when
Speaker 3: I was growing up, you were famous because like a
Speaker 3: certain reason, like you had, you had a gift. And again,
Speaker 3: his gift is to just to be able to, you know,
Speaker 3: keep people interested in what he's doing on the internet.
Speaker 3: So I'm not acting like the guy is, you know,
Speaker 3: a clown, But I remember like learning, wait a second,
Speaker 3: so he's just like famous because a lot of people
Speaker 3: watching on YouTube and now like it's a whole new world. Like,
Speaker 3: that's really where a lot of things are headed when
Speaker 3: it comes to content. But there's a lot of people
Speaker 3: who probably just think of this guy as a boxer,
Speaker 3: and they know they see him on social media. They
Speaker 3: can't open up any platform on the web and not
Speaker 3: see something about him. But they're still probably thinking, like, so,
Speaker 3: wait a second, how did he become famous? Like I
Speaker 3: remember having a conversation who was it with somebody in
Speaker 3: my family. I might have been one of my cousins,
Speaker 3: who's who's who's older than me? A cousin old enough
Speaker 3: to probably be like my parent, second cousin, I guess.
Speaker 3: But the reason I remember this is because, you know,
Speaker 3: it made total sensitive But I never thought of it.
Speaker 3: They assumed that the Paul brothers were the sons of
Speaker 3: some super famous person, and that's how they, you know,
Speaker 3: became because you know what, I never thought of this.
Speaker 3: You know why the Corrections are famous because of their parents,
Speaker 3: because of you know, uh Oja's was it an ojent?
Speaker 3: Well other?
Speaker 1: Well what you're saying, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're like Ray J having sex on film
Speaker 3: and it leaking on the internet would not have been
Speaker 3: as big of a thing if it wasn't with somebody
Speaker 3: who was already somewhat famous, like Robert Kardashian's Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: so you know him being was he was O Jay's lawyer.
Speaker 1: Right, it's like one of his defense attorneys.
Speaker 3: So that's when they have like their name is known
Speaker 3: because of their father, and then of course that led
Speaker 3: to them having some you know, Hollywood access to stuff,
Speaker 3: and then of course it took off. So I never
Speaker 3: I never thought that the Pauls were famous because of
Speaker 3: a relative, but like other people, at least you know,
Speaker 3: one of one person I talked to, just assume that,
Speaker 3: And I think, honestly, that's that's not a crazy assumption
Speaker 3: if you don't realize that people can just you know,
Speaker 3: they're not on their giving reviews, they're not on there
Speaker 3: doing talk shows. They're just on YouTube doing whatever, pranks,
Speaker 3: drama and it. You know, I used to think that
Speaker 3: this was all a thing to where this is all
Speaker 3: like a phase and sure enough, eventually there'll be people
Speaker 3: that like, like, there's no way this is sustainable, and
Speaker 3: I was dead wrong. Like if you're big on YouTube,
Speaker 3: and I mean like really big, like you're set, and
Speaker 3: that's really where you know, a lot of things are
Speaker 3: headed right now, So I don't have a clue that's
Speaker 3: going to happen to night. But this is what really
Speaker 3: is made, you know, takes a little bit of the
Speaker 3: excitement away from me, is that whatever does happen, I'm
Speaker 3: not really sure that I'm gonna deep down believe it
Speaker 3: wasn't staged.
Speaker 2: Some make sense, Yeah, well, I mean look at the
Speaker 2: pyro and valley who's surrounding it too. I mean, at
Speaker 2: one point, I don't know if you've seen on Twitter,
Speaker 2: like Jake had like this like prosthetic belly and he
Speaker 2: was trying to be like a fat guy.
Speaker 1: Have you been seeing that, Like.
Speaker 3: I think I saw TikTok of it at one point.
Speaker 3: I don't. And again I'm anti him, but I anything
Speaker 3: I see with him, I scroll past it, not in disgust,
Speaker 3: but just like, yeah, that's not I don't really care,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Tyson, they're actually I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: the legitimacy of this, but like he's went on the
Speaker 2: Paul's podcast and he's been like a part of like
Speaker 2: their their content before, so they've shown that they've been
Speaker 2: cool with each other. I'm pretty sure Mike respects him now,
Speaker 2: and that's what like, I'm pretty sure it just came
Speaker 2: down to a Hey, you want to fight, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Let's let's get you a payday. And that's what it's
Speaker 2: turned into. Now it goes to be fair. And I
Speaker 2: know you know this too.
Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to act like you weren't going to Like,
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson makes this the big money maker that you know,
Speaker 3: Jake Paul can fight anybody, and there's going to be
Speaker 3: a lot of people that will watch it and consuming
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a big pay day for
Speaker 3: everybody involved. Mike Tyson makes it times ten like it's
Speaker 3: the dream scenario for Jake Paul that Mike Tyson is
Speaker 3: willing to fight him, right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's gonna be the biggest name on
Speaker 2: his list. I'm going and looking at some of the
Speaker 2: people and I kind of forgot about this, but I
Speaker 2: remember watching when this really first started. Nate Robinson. You
Speaker 2: remember when he knocked out Nate Robinson during COVID. That
Speaker 2: was one of the big bigger events when everyone started
Speaker 2: coming back. And then Ben Askron, he's a UFC fighter,
Speaker 2: he was a little bit over his time than Ben
Speaker 2: Askron was like just like a one hit wonder in
Speaker 2: the UFC. Another Tyron Woodley, he fought him. And here's
Speaker 2: another one I forgot. Anderson the Spider Silva. I can't
Speaker 2: remember if he not tim out or that was just
Speaker 2: like a sad performance.
Speaker 3: Wasn't that the one that people were thinking, Okay, this
Speaker 3: guy's about to get humbled and then it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I think so because Anderson Silvia's name what I was
Speaker 2: growing up. Anderson Silva had hands, but he also had
Speaker 2: feet too. That's why they called him the Spider.
Speaker 3: So NBC reports here earlier today that that forty million
Speaker 3: dollars will go to Jake Paul and twenty million dollars
Speaker 3: will go to Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson, Mike Tyson cannot
Speaker 3: find and again he's Mike Tyson. This is not an insult,
Speaker 3: it's just the reality of it. There's nothing Mike Tyson
Speaker 3: at fifty, in his late fifties that he could do
Speaker 3: that would get him a twenty million dollar pay day
Speaker 3: or a twenty million dollar contract over time. So you know,
Speaker 3: this is a guy who did file bankruptcy twenty one
Speaker 3: years ago. Really, at that and by the way, at
Speaker 3: that point twenty one years ago, Mike Tyson's fame had
Speaker 3: kind of are not hadn't fallen off, but like a
Speaker 3: lot of the money he was going to make was
Speaker 3: probably before then. So you know, I'm actually surprised Tyson's
Speaker 3: not getting more money, which again you know, probably just
Speaker 3: me overthinking it, but it made him doing it for
Speaker 3: twenty million. Again, I just mentioned that's money that like
Speaker 3: he won't get anywhere else, but it kind of also
Speaker 3: more so speaks to the fact that if he can't
Speaker 3: get more, he'll take what he can get. So maybe
Speaker 3: he is just gonna, you know, take a dove here.
Speaker 1: We'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean again, I don't want to act like people
Speaker 3: should watch it because it's going to be staged, but
Speaker 3: it's just set up to where if you do have
Speaker 3: that mindset, you're not going to be proven that you're wrong.
Speaker 3: And I also understand why people have that mindset of like, well,
Speaker 3: how real was this? But I do know we need
Speaker 3: to get to a quick break. We'll come back here
Speaker 3: on the other side, take this up till four o'clock. Well,
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll wrap up the four o'clock hour or
Speaker 3: three o'clock hour when we come back. But we got
Speaker 3: two more hours to go, so stick with us, and
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Speaker 4: You're listening to Coffee and Company with Nick Coffee on
Speaker 4: Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 3: Is this Roy Jones Junior?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 3: Is? Okay? I thought that the connection. I like what
Speaker 3: you're doing there, because I mean, I don't I mean,
Speaker 3: did he have a successful run or just like a
Speaker 3: couple of songs that, like, as they used to say
Speaker 3: back in my day, set the club off?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think this was a set the club off song.
Speaker 2: He talks about setting the club off several times. I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's a dance song or I'm gonna
Speaker 2: kick your ass song.
Speaker 3: That I ain't never scared. That's him right with other people.
Speaker 1: Never scared. Well, it's a bone crusher, right, but I
Speaker 1: think he's in it? Is he evenna look at him?
Speaker 3: There's another there's a Roy Jones song that features somebody
Speaker 3: or he features on it that like we would warm
Speaker 3: up to it and when I played basketball, yeah, and
Speaker 3: we would. We would at times while listening to that song,
Speaker 3: probably envision ourselves as something we're not really that makes sense,
Speaker 3: just like we're ready to whoop somebody's ass, right, I
Speaker 3: want it? And you know that wasn't really how we
Speaker 3: were raised in Bullet County, and we probably wouldn't have
Speaker 3: done well in some of those fights. But you know,
Speaker 3: but Roy Jones Junior, let us, let us just get lost.
Speaker 3: So good stuff, all right? Five W two five seven
Speaker 3: one seventy nine hundred is the number if you guys
Speaker 3: want to join us here on a Friday afternoon. It's
Speaker 3: coffee and company fueled by Thornton's Let's go the phone
Speaker 3: lines and I will welcome and Steve, Steve, how are
Speaker 3: we doing? Brother?
Speaker 4: How are we doing?
Speaker 3: Nick? Good to hear from you.
Speaker 4: Great. I'm gonna make three quick points. I never was
Speaker 4: a Mike Tyson fan. I hope Mike Tyson breaks his
Speaker 4: face because I'm so sick and tired of these Paul brothers.
Speaker 4: But you know, Mike Tyson blew through four hundred million
Speaker 4: dollars when he filed his when he filed his stomach. Yeah,
Speaker 4: four hundred million. And the point is, I think Mike
Speaker 4: Tyson could have been the greatest fighter ever had his
Speaker 4: had his manager not died. I mean, he kept him
Speaker 4: under control, and after that, that's when he got into
Speaker 4: all the sexual assault stuff and fighting Mitch Green in
Speaker 4: the streets. The other point I want to make to
Speaker 4: all these young guys out there that think that the
Speaker 4: Pauls are cool, go back and look at the Muhammad
Speaker 4: Ali and Joe Fraser three fights. They were brutal and
Speaker 4: they probably led to both of them suffering from early
Speaker 4: dementia and Alzheimer's because those were the most brutal fights.
Speaker 4: I think that, and I'm I'm six seventy years old.
Speaker 4: I just turned seventy, but I think those were I
Speaker 4: can remember as a kid in my bedroom listening to
Speaker 4: the description when Ali and Fraser met for the first time,
Speaker 4: and they did one minute summaries on the radio after
Speaker 4: each round. Unless you were lucky enough to be able
Speaker 4: to go to the close circuit viewing.
Speaker 3: But I can't act, Steve, I can't act like I'm
Speaker 3: you know, I miss it because I wasn't really around
Speaker 3: whenever that. But like I just know, boxing is probably
Speaker 3: the one sport that at one point was so humongous
Speaker 3: that has fallen so far now like other sports have had,
Speaker 3: you know, roller coaster type of runs, but boxing used
Speaker 3: to be huge, and it's just been a it's just
Speaker 3: been a different world in the last it has been.
Speaker 4: And when you see you know, Mma, But I remember
Speaker 4: Ali saying before the fight that he was going to
Speaker 4: get a million dollars to fight, to fight Fraser, and
Speaker 4: he he said, you know, the government's going to get
Speaker 4: half of it, which back then, our tax rates were
Speaker 4: much higher, even for the rich. And you know, a
Speaker 4: million dollars back then was was a lot of money
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy or it.
Speaker 3: Was a lot of money to me, sir.
Speaker 4: Listen, Nick, I appreciate it, and I love your show, brother,
Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks so much. Go Cards, baby, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, Go Cards. Always good to hear from me, Steve.
Speaker 3: Take care. Yeah, So I tell you what, man like
Speaker 3: the you know again, that's why I wanted to make sure,
Speaker 3: like I don't want act like, oh, man, I remember
Speaker 3: it back in the day. I really miss it because
Speaker 3: you know, I don't mean I was too young, wasn't
Speaker 3: alive for a lot of it, and I was too
Speaker 3: young to really understand it. But even as a young kid,
Speaker 3: like early nineties, I remember, you know, I remember it
Speaker 3: being a thing like, hey, there's a big fight, and
Speaker 3: my dad's might my dad might get it on pay
Speaker 3: per view, And I'm thinking, like, man, if I ask
Speaker 3: him if I can watch it, he might think about
Speaker 3: it and uh and then say, well, you know, we
Speaker 3: probably shouldn't. You should go to bed. But if I
Speaker 3: just don't say anything and I act like I'm not
Speaker 3: paying attention or like I'm in my room, and then
Speaker 3: I sneak out and it's on, like maybe I'll get
Speaker 3: to watch it. Because you know, I was young.
Speaker 1: That's a veteran move.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, those are the things you remember when
Speaker 3: you get older, you know. But I knew at that point,
Speaker 3: even at a young age like that boxing was a big,
Speaker 3: big deal. But it was an even way bigger deal
Speaker 3: before I was alive, and you know, even in the
Speaker 3: earlier ages of my life. And you know, he mentioned
Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali and Frasier and you know, now I just
Speaker 3: don't like boxing, you know, and this is probably not
Speaker 3: what we should make the show about today. But I
Speaker 3: don't even know the path for boxing to get close
Speaker 3: to being what it once was, Like I don't, I
Speaker 3: mean I would, I'm not educated enough on the sport.
Speaker 3: I think there's some obvious reasons as to why it's
Speaker 3: not as popular as it once was and why others
Speaker 3: like UFC MMA has surpassed it. But when it's good,
Speaker 3: like it's I mean, it's one of those things where
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, I watch kind of thinking I
Speaker 3: have a feel for if it goes, if it does
Speaker 3: go to decision, what's going to happen. But you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I know just enough to where I can really
Speaker 3: be into it, if that makes sense, And I think
Speaker 3: that's a lot there's a lot of people like that.
Speaker 3: You know, there's others that clearly you know, our are
Speaker 3: purists and really love it. So you know, it's there's
Speaker 3: no doubt there'll be more people watching a boxing match
Speaker 3: tonight than probably having a really really really long time.
Speaker 3: And that's good, I guess for the sport. But then again,
Speaker 3: you know, not saying that Steve said this, but like
Speaker 3: the way in which it's all came about for Jake Paul,
Speaker 3: there's just something that will never respect him as somebody
Speaker 3: that you know, really is because even if he was
Speaker 3: this undisputed guy that could beat anybody, you know, that
Speaker 3: would be something that you'd have to respect, no doubt.
Speaker 3: But I just think because the best boxers didn't have
Speaker 3: any type of a story like his. He's a guy
Speaker 3: who got rich on the internet by being a knucklehead
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Speaker 3: really they would tell you this and you know, part
Speaker 3: of my friends here, I know I can say this
Speaker 3: and it's not really a bad word. But like I've
Speaker 3: heard this mentioned by both of them, like their brand
Speaker 3: to become like super famous was to just be the
Speaker 3: biggest douchebags out there, like both him and his brother,
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