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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the big New one. Sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Thursday and right off the top, let

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<v Speaker 1>us remind you there is still time to get over

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<v Speaker 1>to Kogerfield today or you could do it tomorrow, but

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<v Speaker 1>be sure you can get over there if you would

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<v Speaker 1>and help Jagger Burton from the UK football team Trent

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<v Speaker 1>Noah from UK basketball. They are spearheading an initiative to

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<v Speaker 1>help LAX eighteen UK Sports and Campus Marketing to pull

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<v Speaker 1>together donations of supplies for the victims of the recent

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<v Speaker 1>tornadoes in our state. They're going to be there tonight

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<v Speaker 1>till eight o'clock and then again tomorrow from eleven am

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<v Speaker 1>to one pm. All donations will be directed toward tornado

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<v Speaker 1>relief efforts in southern Kentucky. Rakes, shovels, trash bags, cleaning supplies,

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<v Speaker 1>paper goods, flashlights and lanners, lanterns, non perishable foods, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't mind, including their pet food, dogs and cats.

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<v Speaker 1>They're victims, not quite like humans, but they also need

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<v Speaker 1>to be looked after in situations like this, So over

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<v Speaker 1>at Cogerfield, the blue lot that runs alongside Alumni Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>they will be there till eight o'clock tonight, then again

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow from eleven am to one pm, all part of

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<v Speaker 1>tornado relief efforts in southern Kentucky. You heard this yesterday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>after we'd already put our show to bed, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>But Shake Gildess Alexander, the former Wildcat, is not only

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA scoring champ at thirty two point seven points

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<v Speaker 1>per game, but he is the league's most valuable player

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<v Speaker 1>and his team tonight takes on Minnesota in Game two

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western Conference Finals. The Timberwolves led by Julius Randall,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but SGA is having himself a season. He

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<v Speaker 1>was great last year. Some thought he should have been

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP last year, but he wins it this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventy two straight games twenty or more points, fourth longest

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<v Speaker 1>in NBA history. That kind of streak. Oscar Robertson did

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<v Speaker 1>it last in nineteen sixty three and sixty four. Wilt

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<v Speaker 1>Chamberlain had two streaks like that in the early sixties.

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<v Speaker 1>Just incredible. And now if they can win a championship

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City, Shay Gilgess Alexander would join a pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 1>list of people to lead the league in scoring be

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<v Speaker 1>named the MVP and win an NBA title. He would

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<v Speaker 1>be the first guy to do that since Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 1>did it back during the twenty fourteen fifteen season. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've got names like Bob Coosey, Bill Russell again, Chamberlain,

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<v Speaker 1>Willis Reed did it, Jabbar, Larry Bird, Magic, Michael Jordan, Shack,

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Duncan, and of course Lebron. Can you imagine six

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<v Speaker 1>six guard doing this. Most of those guys are bigs.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's a skinny six to six guard. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun to watch at Kentucky. Wasn't he so

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<v Speaker 1>root for the ok City Thunder? But there's a Wildcat

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<v Speaker 1>on every team, a former Wildcat in all four of

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA Final four team, So it's a fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's of course playoff time here in to be watching

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. We need to also point out speaking of

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<v Speaker 1>former Wildcats, and then once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat.

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<v Speaker 1>But dan Issel, Louis Dampier and their Kentucky Colonel's teammates

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<v Speaker 1>on this day fifty years ago, won the nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five ABA Championship. They beat the wicked Indiana Pacers one ten,

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<v Speaker 1>one oh five in Game five in Freedom Hall, man

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<v Speaker 1>I hated the Pacers. I should because one year the

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<v Speaker 1>Colonels were favored and the Pacers beat him in Game

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<v Speaker 1>seven for the ABA title. Indiana was so good. Finally

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<v Speaker 1>the Colonel's breakthrough under Hubie Brown and win the championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Hubie Brown had been an assistant coach for the Milwaukee

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks team that won the NBA Championship back in the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies with a kid named leu Al Sinder, who

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<v Speaker 1>of course later was traded due to the Lakers and became

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<v Speaker 1>Kareem Abdul Jabbar. But John Y Brown hired him away,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking well, this guys had to win a championship, and

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<v Speaker 1>he did. And about a year and a half ago,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to chat with dan Issel about

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<v Speaker 1>what that meant to him, to be able to along

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<v Speaker 1>with Louis and Hubie and artist Gilmour win the ABA title.

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<v Speaker 2>You get, that's a special, special moment, I think for

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<v Speaker 2>all of us. Hubee says to this day it's the

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<v Speaker 2>best team he ever coached. And you know that was

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<v Speaker 2>the only championship that Louie and I and artists won,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's very special, and you know, it just makes

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<v Speaker 2>you wonder what would have happened if that team had

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<v Speaker 2>stayed together and it had been one of the teams

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<v Speaker 2>that went into the NBA at the time of the merger.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, my my very favorite moment in

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, John Y. Brown a great business man,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no question. And you know I said it was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad business deal, and you know that day it

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<v Speaker 1>might have been, but it lacked a little bit of forethought,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't it? Or was that too easy to say now

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<v Speaker 1>because you know the NBA then surely isn't what it

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<v Speaker 1>is now?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 2>Younger people will find this hard to imagine. But at

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<v Speaker 2>that time and even later in a lot of markets,

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<v Speaker 2>major markets, the NBA Finals were on tape delay after

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<v Speaker 2>the eleven o'clock news, So no, nothing close. And John did,

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<v Speaker 2>John did make the right business decision at the time time.

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<v Speaker 2>But it would have been great if Kentucky had an

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<v Speaker 2>NBA team today.

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<v Speaker 1>Dennis it was my first college basketball hero. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so great to be able to eventually meet him, get

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<v Speaker 1>to know him, become friendly with him. We chat on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio every once in a while, and looking back

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<v Speaker 1>on the ABA days with him, it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun and yeah, hard to believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years ago today and what a great team that was.

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<v Speaker 1>But they took four teams into the NBA from the ABA,

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<v Speaker 1>and they had to pay up to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it and sign a terrible deal where they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>share in TV revenue for like twenty years or something

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<v Speaker 1>crazy like that. But the Nets and the Pacers and

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<v Speaker 1>the Nuggets and the Spurs did it, and now they've

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<v Speaker 1>won championships. Well, the Pacers haven't won an NBA title yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but they do have those three ABA titles from the

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<v Speaker 1>early seventies, but the Colonels have the seventy five title

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<v Speaker 1>and we sell rated today. I sent him for Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Leach on The Leach Report earlier today, and one of

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<v Speaker 1>his guests, as he is each week generally on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>is Jack Gibbons, Tom's broadcast partner, and I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>a follow up question to a topic they discussed last week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked about this on the show a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Otega Oway getting advice, getting some direction from NBA experts,

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are checking him out and talking to him,

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<v Speaker 1>trying him out. He's trying to decide does he keep

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<v Speaker 1>his name in the draft. And I've mentioned it several

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<v Speaker 1>times and a lot of people have. Antonio Reeves did

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<v Speaker 1>this and was told, you know, you're either not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be drafted or you'll be way late in the

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<v Speaker 1>second round. So he comes back to college armed with

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<v Speaker 1>the knowledge of what he needs to do to better

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<v Speaker 1>himself for the NBA and it's not mutually exclusive. We

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<v Speaker 1>learned that, didn't we Antonio Reeves at the best season

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<v Speaker 1>of his college career his last year at Kentucky, and

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<v Speaker 1>clearly it helped himself, but it helped the Wildcats enormously.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Alwa can do that kind of transition, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>how much better he's going to be this coming season

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<v Speaker 1>if he comes back to Kentucky. And I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Jack about that, because you know, that kind of information

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<v Speaker 1>and that kind of interaction with the NBA was not

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<v Speaker 1>only not available but against the rules back then when

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<v Speaker 1>Jack was playing. But just you think about Jack had

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<v Speaker 1>a brief career in the NBA because he was an

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<v Speaker 1>undersized forward and didn't develop himself as a guard, And

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<v Speaker 1>had he known more about what he needed to do

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<v Speaker 1>and how to do it, he would have spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot longer in the NBA, and we talked about that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times.

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<v Speaker 3>Our fans get all been out of shape because guys

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<v Speaker 3>go and they're going to test the waters. Then you

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<v Speaker 3>start to worry and wonder and you know, get but

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that benefits these guys. I mean they know,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think Oldway knows that he has a little

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<v Speaker 3>ways to go before he's ready for the league. But

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<v Speaker 3>like when I was at Kentucky, you get kind of

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<v Speaker 3>penciled into a spot and you get used to play

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<v Speaker 3>in a certain system. And I worked really well in

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<v Speaker 3>our system, but man, I would love to have had

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<v Speaker 3>these guys kind of tell me, Man, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>increase your ball handling. But I mean, yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 3>shoot it if you jump all right for guys six

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<v Speaker 3>five and playing against guys six eight, you jump all

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<v Speaker 3>right and all of this stuff. But you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>your size six four sixty five, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a point guard. You got to handle that ball. You

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<v Speaker 3>got to get out on the floor and learn how

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<v Speaker 3>to defend these quicker players, which I had to try

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<v Speaker 3>to do in the NBA. And believe me, when you

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<v Speaker 3>doing it for a job and everybody's trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>a living. It's a very difficult place to change your

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<v Speaker 3>whole style of play. So yeah, I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>Old Wait, Well, hear some stuff that he won't hear

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<v Speaker 3>from his from his girlfriend, he won't hear from his parents,

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<v Speaker 3>he won't hear from all those people around him who

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<v Speaker 3>are advising him. He'll hear some stuff that he really

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<v Speaker 3>needs to hear and hopefully that'll help him get better

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the summer and going into next season.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has got me really excited about seeing Otago away,

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<v Speaker 1>including his brand new teammates, but seeing Otaga Oway and

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<v Speaker 1>what he's going to do this season. I believe he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be back, and most experts do, not that I'm an expert,

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<v Speaker 1>but people who keep an eye on this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>thing believe he'll come back. It makes more sense financially anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine if he makes the same kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leap and Antonio Reeves made with a college game,

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<v Speaker 1>how much better he's going to be up next? What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in North Carolina with Bill Belichick? Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great question. There's a new lead on that story,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems every day, including the former coach of the

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<v Speaker 1>Tar Heels Mack Brown implying that they have relaxed academic

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<v Speaker 1>standards at North Carolina the Harvard of the South for

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Belichick. We'll talk about that coming up at the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of the hour. Aaron Gershan of the Cat's Balls.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on EKU coach Walt Wells and podcaster Vinnie Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>here on six point thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big blone Cider coming up in a few minutes, Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Gershan of the Cats Balls. I mentioned North Carolina going

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<v Speaker 1>into the break. Mack Brown appeared on Sirius XM radio

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<v Speaker 1>on a podcast or radio show actually with Dusty devorceek

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<v Speaker 1>and Danny Canell and talked about why North Carolina has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to be successful quickly with Bill Belichick despite

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff that's going on with the girlfriend. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that Brown brought up, I'll play

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<v Speaker 1>the comment for you in just a minute academic, and

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<v Speaker 1>he basically said they seem to have lowered the academic

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<v Speaker 1>standards to help Belichick and reminded me instantly of two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Number One, Notre Dame did this back in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was when Lou Holtz was there, and it

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<v Speaker 1>clearly helped Holtz with his recruiting, and then conversely, they

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<v Speaker 1>had a new chancellor come in, I think, and raised

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<v Speaker 1>had been over Holtz's strenuous objections, and that's when he left.

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<v Speaker 1>but Ray re raised them or put him back, and

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<v Speaker 1>and people immediately assumed that these were classes created four athletes. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there were more non athletes in these classes than athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>great institution academically. But they prostituted themselves, the powers that

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<v Speaker 1>be at North Carolina, to get out from under that scandal,

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<v Speaker 1>at least with regards to the NCAA, by admitting or

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<v Speaker 1>from under serious NCAA penalties. Because if they hadn't said that,

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<v Speaker 1>declared ineligible. Championship banners we're going to be taken down

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that. But in order to avoid that

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<v Speaker 1>for their athletic department, the academic side of campus had

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<v Speaker 1>to admit or forced itself to admit that, yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly the Harvard of the South. As I said, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if Belichick is going to benefit from academic standards that

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<v Speaker 1>are lowered, well they're just going to shrug that off obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to assume it's true. But keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>now a lot of schools do that. There are ways

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<v Speaker 1>to do this legally. In fact, this happens in the UK,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. And I say that without sincerity.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a process, and it's not about athletics. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me be clear about that. I've had it explained to me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't have the proper board scores essentially to

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<v Speaker 1>you can appeal. There is an appeals process. But within

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<v Speaker 1>that process, athletics are not a factor. It's not like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>great football player, she's a great basketball player. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them prosper. Some of them don't. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, a lot of the kids you get in

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<v Speaker 1>normally don't prosper either, So again, case by case. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just find it interesting that Mac Brown freely spoke

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<v Speaker 4>It was time for me. North Carolina didn't have ni

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<v Speaker 4>O money, and I said, we were kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>was time for them, and it was time for me,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of like a divorce. Everybody was ready,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just who and how and how you split at

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<v Speaker 4>the end. So it was best for me to get out.

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<v Speaker 4>We always built programs on fit, and in our last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years there, we were having to get parents

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<v Speaker 4>three point zero because that's who we could get. We

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<v Speaker 4>signed twenty six players at North Carolina are next to

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<v Speaker 4>last year high school players, and didn't pay them a penny,

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<v Speaker 4>so those kids I felt guilty. We even had Omaria

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<v Speaker 4>and Hampton and he got offered a million plus to

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<v Speaker 4>leave and he stayed for three hundred thousand. I told

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<v Speaker 4>him should leave because it was just crazy as you

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<v Speaker 4>were looking at those things. As far as North Carolina

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<v Speaker 4>and Bill Belichick, now he's arguably the best coach ever.

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<v Speaker 4>They've committed money to it, they've helped them with academics,

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<v Speaker 4>they've lowered those standards some so there's absolutely no reason

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<v Speaker 4>that they shouldn't be successful. And anymore. They've changed the roster.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they've signed maybe sixty something new transfers, so

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<v Speaker 4>you've got chances to succeed at the highest level, and

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<v Speaker 4>I expect them to do that, and I'm proud for him.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be pushback on that, you know there

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<v Speaker 1>will be. We'll keep an eye out for it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Mac Brown. Courtesy of Sirius XM. One other note

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<v Speaker 1>about football. Jim Yersay has died. You may have seen this.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the owner, was the owner of the Indianapolis Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>Only sixty five. He had had substance abuse issues in

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<v Speaker 1>the past and don't know what the cause of death was.

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<v Speaker 1>Way too young, sixty five, but I didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>He had assembled one of the greatest collections of valuable

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<v Speaker 1>guitars in the world, guitars owned by David Gilmour, Bob Dylan,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt Cobain. And at one point he turned down one

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars that's billion with a B for his offer.

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<v Speaker 1>This was back in July of twenty twenty three. It

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<v Speaker 1>was of course somebody in Dubai who offered to buy

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<v Speaker 1>it and then it would have been moved to Dubai,

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<v Speaker 1>but Hearsay turned him down. Can you imagine, because he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to exhibit the instruments to the public here in

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<v Speaker 1>the US and he didn't need the money. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>they took Peyton Manning got him a Super Bowl win.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Jim Ayersay, I didn't know this. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>he had a band, but I didn't know he had

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of collection of valuable guitars. But apparently guitar

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<v Speaker 1>aficionado's all over the world they knew about Jim Hearsay.

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<v Speaker 1>No telling. Now what's going to happen to the collection.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Gershan of the cash Balls is coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>right here on six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Sider. Joining us now as he does each week,

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<v Speaker 1>is Aaron Gershan of the Cats Pause part of the

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<v Speaker 1>two four seven network, and Aaron, earlier today you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking a lot of football. Let's talk a little basketball first,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Pope, and he had kind of led on in

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<v Speaker 1>his news conference last week. He wasn't quite done with

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<v Speaker 1>his roster, and sure enough he lands Brandon Hawthorne. You've

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<v Speaker 1>written about him. What should we know?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think, and I'm not trying to oversell it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think when you look at like a similar timeline,

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<v Speaker 5>similar body, similar, Okay, how do we want this kid

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<v Speaker 5>to project? I go and look at Adu Sierro. Deuciero

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<v Speaker 5>was a very late riser in the I believe twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two high school class. He was a guy who

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<v Speaker 5>his frame wasn't fully built out. He needed to add

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of weight, frankly, added a lot of strength,

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<v Speaker 5>and he even I think grew two or three inches

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<v Speaker 5>year at Arkansas. And we'll see if it's the NBA

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<v Speaker 5>or Arkansas for him next year. So that's what I

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<v Speaker 5>kind of think of because Hawthorne's a kid that was

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<v Speaker 5>a three star prospect outside of the top one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>and fifty in two four, sevens or eight kings back

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<v Speaker 5>in December and November when he had initially signed with

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<v Speaker 5>West Virginia, and as his body started filling out a

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<v Speaker 5>little more, as he started to play even better on

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<v Speaker 5>the court, you know, he shot up to now where

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<v Speaker 5>he's the thirty third best player in the country. Now

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<v Speaker 5>is that, Yeah, he's the thirty third best player in

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<v Speaker 5>the country. But I don't think that's going to equate

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<v Speaker 5>itself on the court this year. I think I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think you're going to see him play all too much.

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<v Speaker 5>I think there's going to be you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of work in that weight room, a lot of work

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<v Speaker 5>in the practice gym. He's going to be a big

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<v Speaker 5>part of the practice a big part of scout team

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<v Speaker 5>in practices for Kentucky. But I don't expect to see

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<v Speaker 5>him all that much unless injuries pile up or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Kentucky has a big lead or a big deficit and

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<v Speaker 5>they're kind of just rolling at the bench a little bit,

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<v Speaker 5>pretty similar to what a dude's role was here his

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<v Speaker 5>freshman year. You know, Kentucky did have the injuries at

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<v Speaker 5>the point guard positions and that forced him to play

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit that season. But you know, the plan

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<v Speaker 5>in that year was not for a dude to play much,

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<v Speaker 5>and he didn't. I think they'll play even less than

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<v Speaker 5>that if everything goes right at Kentucky. But he's a

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<v Speaker 5>guy you can definitely get excited about his future. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>he's six foot nine, may not be done growing quite yet.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been a guard most of his high school career

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<v Speaker 5>because he was six to five a year and a

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<v Speaker 5>half ago. So he's a guy who can play multiple positions.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a seven foot three wings fan like similar I

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<v Speaker 5>think a do also had a seven to three wings.

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<v Speaker 5>Spanner has one. So that's the guy I kind of

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<v Speaker 5>compare him to. Will he be as good? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it going to be a thing where he is

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<v Speaker 5>not too happy about sitting on the bench all the

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<v Speaker 5>year and he transfers out. Possibly it's it's college basketball

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<v Speaker 5>and in twenty twenty five, But he's a guy who

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<v Speaker 5>can at least get excited about his future and his ceiling.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just not quite sure if at all he's going

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<v Speaker 5>to have that much of an impact on the court

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<v Speaker 5>this year. But I think you're going to see that

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<v Speaker 5>growth and body transformation every time you look at him,

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<v Speaker 5>and that's what makes me really excited about his future.

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<v Speaker 5>And to just add the thirty third best player in

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<v Speaker 5>the country, yeah as your fourteenth man, like, sign you up.

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<v Speaker 5>Anyone should be signing up for that any day.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, you've given us a lot to unpack. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start first of all with did you know how much

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure I wish he had stayed here, but this kid, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he paralys them a lot, but he has not built

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<v Speaker 1>that way. As you mentioned, no needs to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the weight room. From what I've read it's aid one

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five, which means probably won seventy. But at this age, nutrition,

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<v Speaker 1>weight room coaching, they can put on good muscle pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So he has a bit of a string being.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, right, Yeah, no question about it. He definitely

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<v Speaker 5>needs to add some weight, add some strength, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure that is the first thing. And really that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to be just the main focus for him this whole

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<v Speaker 5>season at Kentucky. And you know, again he's gonna, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>he's gonna come in with the attitude of oh I belong,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to compete for minutes. I just I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know how realistic that really is, especially with how deep

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<v Speaker 5>do in that gym, and he's not quite ready yet.

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<v Speaker 5>But you know, he also he comes from this Huntington Press,

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<v Speaker 5>he comes from this program. He's from Beckley, West Virginia,

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<v Speaker 5>but played his last year. I think just as last year.

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<v Speaker 5>It could be two years at Huntington Prep and at

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<v Speaker 5>the school that's developed Andrew Wiggins, Keldon Johnson obviously former

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<v Speaker 5>before transferring to a different prep school like Thomas Bryant

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<v Speaker 5>a center for the Pacers now, but to Indiana. Miles

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<v Speaker 5>Bridge is not.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave.

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<v Speaker 5>He was at Michigan State first round picking the Hornets.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's still yet still in Charlotte. So it's

417
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<v Speaker 5>a program that's produced a lot of good basketball players.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, Kentucky's definitely hoping with the with their

419
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<v Speaker 5>weight program or their strengths coaches program, whatever they go

420
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<v Speaker 5>and have Hawthorn do in the gym, it kind of

421
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<v Speaker 5>just unlocks them more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>You touched on this as well. Uh, this being the

423
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<v Speaker 1>age of basketball where there's you know, free and open

424
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<v Speaker 1>movement every hour on the hour, you do wonder about

425
00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a guy with this kind of rep who could have

426
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<v Speaker 1>gone and probably got more minutes maybe elsewhere wherever he

427
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<v Speaker 1>would have gone. He's still going to be skinny and young.

428
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<v Speaker 1>But this is a deep roster. And whenever you ask

429
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<v Speaker 1>Pope about it, what does he say, I want to

430
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<v Speaker 1>play all of them? And in times it looks like

431
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<v Speaker 1>he's trying to do that. Of course you can't really

432
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<v Speaker 1>do that, but you do wonder about will this young

433
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<v Speaker 1>man and time will tell if he has the patience

434
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<v Speaker 1>it takes now to do what he wants to do.

435
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<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean, It's college It's just what

436
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.000
<v Speaker 5>college basketball is nowadays. I mean, you don't have much

437
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<v Speaker 5>of that. You don't have much of the guys that

438
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<v Speaker 5>are willing to sit out and then give it another year.

439
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<v Speaker 5>I mean even and I don't blame him at all,

440
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<v Speaker 5>and this is not a dig at them, but Travis Perry,

441
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<v Speaker 5>a kid who's from Edieville, Kentucky, dreamed of playing here

442
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:16.039
<v Speaker 5>high school all time leading scorer in the state. You know,

443
00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:18.680
<v Speaker 5>he went one and done here because the playing he

444
00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.480
<v Speaker 5>didn't see the pass two enough playing time and he

445
00:25:20.640 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 5>played his minute last year and getting four or five

446
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.279
<v Speaker 5>starts is probably more than what Hawthorne is going to

447
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<v Speaker 5>play this coming year. Yet Perry had enough and went,

448
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<v Speaker 5>you know, to another SEC school. And so you can't

449
00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:34.680
<v Speaker 5>ever rule that out, especially when you look at how

450
00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:39.079
<v Speaker 5>Kentucky's roster's built. Not only would the death on this

451
00:25:39.240 --> 00:25:42.720
<v Speaker 5>year's roster, but go look at who's go look at

452
00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.920
<v Speaker 5>next year Kentucky and again guys are going to portal.

453
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<v Speaker 5>There might be draft decisions, but the only two guys

454
00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 5>for sure who are off the after this year will

455
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<v Speaker 5>be Denzel Aberdeen who's entering his senior year. And then

456
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<v Speaker 5>if Otega's oway is back, he's entering his senior year.

457
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<v Speaker 5>As long as the health stuff is say okay, we'll

458
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<v Speaker 5>be the lottery pick he's expected to be since he

459
00:26:05.759 --> 00:26:07.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, he was just simply ineligible for the draft

460
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:11.200
<v Speaker 5>this year or his age. So that's another spot. You know,

461
00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 5>obviously guys could portal out. You know, maybe Brendan Garrison

462
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.880
<v Speaker 5>establishes himself as a pro. He wasn't McDonald's all American.

463
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.680
<v Speaker 5>It's in there, so you know there's going to be

464
00:26:20.720 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 5>other roster movement for sure. But I mean he tases

465
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<v Speaker 5>not only a monster to get over as far as

466
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<v Speaker 5>Duth goes this year, but just on paper for next year.

467
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<v Speaker 5>So we'll see, you know what his attitude is about it.

468
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<v Speaker 5>But you know he clearly you got to give him

469
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<v Speaker 5>credit for accepting the challenge this year because you go

470
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<v Speaker 5>look at his FI finalists. If you picked he obviously

471
00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.039
<v Speaker 5>picked Kentucky, so you know, he picked the school at

472
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<v Speaker 5>where he wasn't gonna play much. But he also could

473
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:47.480
<v Speaker 5>have picked Duke or it would have been the same story.

474
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<v Speaker 5>But then you know, West Virginia has a new coach

475
00:26:50.160 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 5>and they're still needing some bodies there. Virginia Tech has

476
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<v Speaker 5>been really bad the last couple of years. They definitely

477
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<v Speaker 5>would have played a top thirty five prospect right away

478
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<v Speaker 5>and then coming down year with the coach on the

479
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.160
<v Speaker 5>hot seat. So you know, those three schools he demply

480
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 5>could have played right away, but he opted to develop

481
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<v Speaker 5>and have the Kentucky grand attactually his name, So you

482
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<v Speaker 5>got to give him credit for at least going in

483
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<v Speaker 5>knowing what's ahead of them.

484
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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned that he is one of these guys who,

485
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<v Speaker 1>in terms of his size, is a late bloomer. Was

486
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<v Speaker 1>six' five suddenly. Sported Anthony davis is the best example of. That.

487
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<v Speaker 7>Clear.

488
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<v Speaker 1>Yep but that, happens it. HAPPENS i don't know much

489
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<v Speaker 1>about his skill. SET i, mean does this mean he

490
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<v Speaker 1>is a LIKELY a? THREE i don't know that it'll,

491
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<v Speaker 1>yeah four without the, muscle but with a handle of

492
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<v Speaker 1>a one or. Two.

493
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah all the quotes from you, know the recruiting guys

494
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<v Speaker 5>over at two four seven AT, espn his high school,

495
00:27:49.279 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 5>coach they all can see him kind of they see

496
00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 5>him kind of position position list where he can play

497
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<v Speaker 5>like you, said he'd played a little bit of the,

498
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 5>two the three to, FOUR i think it'll PROBABLY i

499
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<v Speaker 5>think he fits most his current size as a, three

500
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.200
<v Speaker 5>which honestly is good for him Because, kentucky if that's

501
00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 5>where they have any question marks after the starting, lineup

502
00:28:09.880 --> 00:28:12.480
<v Speaker 5>it's probably. That but you, know still again finally be

503
00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:13.799
<v Speaker 5>enough to play this year unless they're.

504
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:14.400
<v Speaker 6>Injuries SO.

505
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:17.319
<v Speaker 7>I see him as a.

506
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<v Speaker 5>Three but you, know you, know he's six y nine right,

507
00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.079
<v Speaker 5>now six eight right, now six nine depends depending on

508
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 5>where you. Look if he shoots up two inches Like

509
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 5>juciero did and he's at six ten six, eleven like

510
00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:32.119
<v Speaker 5>you're probably looking at a. Four so it's going to be.

511
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<v Speaker 5>Interesting it's all going to depend on his, growth both

512
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<v Speaker 5>heightwise and then in the weight.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Room Aaron gershan of The Cats. Pause we'll come back

514
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<v Speaker 1>and talk more With aaron in just a minute here

515
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<v Speaker 1>on six THIRTY. Wlap welcome back with chatting With Aaron

516
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<v Speaker 1>gershan of The Cats. Pause covers The wildcats, football, baseball,

517
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Basketball uh he does it all and earlier today talked

518
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<v Speaker 1>to The kentucky football defensive coordinators for a piece it's

519
00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>going to run in a. Yearbook the. Yearbook business never slows,

520
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>down does and in terms of always looking, ahead there's

521
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>always something else you got to. Do.

522
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:07.480
<v Speaker 5>Right, yeah, yeah we're in really good shape so. Far

523
00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 5>but you, know these were two big things to knock

524
00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 5>down With, Bush handsed And Brad. White but, yeah it

525
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 5>doesn't really. Stop you feel like you're in a good

526
00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 5>spot and then a week later, like oh, CRAP i feel.

527
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 5>Behind so that's kind of how it.

528
00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Goes when you went into your interviews with the, coordinators

529
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 1>what was on your? Checklist? What and people have to

530
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>read about their answers into your, Book but what were

531
00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>you looking?

532
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<v Speaker 5>For, yeah it's kind of just, look there's so much,

533
00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.920
<v Speaker 5>new especially we'll start on, OFFENSE i, mean outside Of

534
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 5>Jalen farmer and maybe Jagg Er burton if he wins

535
00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 5>the starting center, job which it looks like he probably,

536
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:48.240
<v Speaker 5>will it's gonna And Mary. Macklin it's nine new starters on.

537
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:51.240
<v Speaker 5>OFFENSE i, mean it's it's just crazy turnover and then

538
00:29:51.519 --> 00:29:53.599
<v Speaker 5>not that doesn't even go into all the new depth

539
00:29:53.680 --> 00:29:56.640
<v Speaker 5>they've added at multiple positions on that side of the.

540
00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 5>Ball so it's really getting a feel of What bush

541
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 5>hand and remember this Is handen's first time kind of

542
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:06.119
<v Speaker 5>helping hand pick. Players last, year he got here After,

543
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 5>kentucky the most of their portal work was already. DONE i,

544
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 5>ACTUALLY i don't even know if they added another offensive

545
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 5>player in the portal after spring ball last, year or

546
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:15.880
<v Speaker 5>at least not off the top of my. HEAD i

547
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 5>THINK i know they had A Dj, waller but that

548
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.359
<v Speaker 5>was a. Corner so really the first time For bush

549
00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.160
<v Speaker 5>to hand pick some guys and really get guys he

550
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 5>feels are good fits for his. Offense so shouldn't get

551
00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 5>a feel of that for, sure and you can read

552
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:29.680
<v Speaker 5>about it there and then just kind of get his

553
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:32.119
<v Speaker 5>perspective on some of these new guys that maybe they

554
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:35.039
<v Speaker 5>don't like talking. To are like talking about after a

555
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:38.319
<v Speaker 5>spring practice to get on those video reels for the

556
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.000
<v Speaker 5>players to eat. Up so you, know that was the

557
00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 5>focus For, bush and then same With. Brad when you

558
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 5>look at their unit defensive, line it's, just, look we've

559
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 5>been used To Dean, WALKER kV soxson, Nine Trayvon ripko

560
00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:54.720
<v Speaker 5>for years and all those guys are now. Gone you,

561
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 5>know you do bring Back Khalil saunders And Josiah, hayes

562
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 5>but otherwise it's the whole new room there so getting

563
00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:02.599
<v Speaker 5>the feel for what he kind of expects. There it's

564
00:31:02.680 --> 00:31:05.200
<v Speaker 5>different in terms of you, know you look at THEIR

565
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 5>d line on, paper it's a lot smaller than it

566
00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 5>was last, year but a lot, quicker a lot you,

567
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.480
<v Speaker 5>know maybe makes you, more it just gives You i'm

568
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.039
<v Speaker 5>losing track of the Words i'm coming, for but, versatile

569
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:19.480
<v Speaker 5>that's What i'm looking. FOR i think you could be

570
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 5>more versatile with mixing guys in and out and how you,

571
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 5>attack you, know how you get to the, quarterback how

572
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:28.119
<v Speaker 5>you get in the. Backfield it's going to be you

573
00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:29.640
<v Speaker 5>could do it in a vrid of ways where you

574
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 5>kind of knew you were kind of just relying on

575
00:31:31.759 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 5>pure strength and size with the last couple of Groups

576
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.240
<v Speaker 5>sea line, Lives so you, know digging into that a,

577
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 5>bit you, know talking about the outside linebacker and inside linebacker,

578
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.720
<v Speaker 5>rooms like the depth is. Thin just trying to get

579
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:44.759
<v Speaker 5>the trust level on the guys who are going to

580
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:46.599
<v Speaker 5>be playing a lot there and then you know the

581
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 5>secondary that bring a lot, back so you, know good

582
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 5>to have continuity. There and there are a lot of

583
00:31:51.319 --> 00:31:54.039
<v Speaker 5>guys you know on this. Roster you, Know Willie rodriguez

584
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 5>on offense is the one everyone talks, about but you

585
00:31:56.960 --> 00:31:58.880
<v Speaker 5>go look at some of the freshmen who played well

586
00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:00.680
<v Speaker 5>last year now as, possible there's a lot of them

587
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.920
<v Speaker 5>were on special, teams but they're gonna be key defensive

588
00:32:03.920 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 5>players this, year Like Cam dooley And, Inquise she's got

589
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 5>so h you, know trying to get a feel of

590
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:12.400
<v Speaker 5>a lot of newness because, honestly not only the not

591
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 5>only do the fans need, It FRANKLY i need it

592
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 5>because there's just so much new about this.

593
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Team, yeah a lot to, say a lot to write.

594
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.920
<v Speaker 1>About i'm curious about Ham dan because for several, reasons

595
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you AND, i along With Billy rutledge talked all year

596
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>about the offense and football in. General but what kind

597
00:32:33.720 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>of a read did we get this last season on

598
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 1>Ham dan as AN oc on The kentucky offense because

599
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of you, know the, injuries THE o, line h in

600
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>THE qb that got banged up and got happy feet

601
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>by the end of the, year you, know whatever problems

602
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:53.720
<v Speaker 1>or issues they had in the receiver's. Room you, know to,

603
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:56.759
<v Speaker 1>me it's not exactly a do over For bush Ham.

604
00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Dan But i'm wondering will we get a more accurate

605
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 1>picture of what his offense would look like, here you

606
00:33:03.359 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 1>know WHAT i.

607
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.440
<v Speaker 5>Mean, yeah Maybe i'm being too easy on, him BUT

608
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.920
<v Speaker 5>i Kinda he's the one GUY i don't really JUST

609
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:12.000
<v Speaker 5>i can't give him much of blame for at all

610
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 5>of what happened last, year for everything you just, mentioned

611
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:17.440
<v Speaker 5>and and the fact againy like this roster was put

612
00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.839
<v Speaker 5>in place with the guys That Liam cohen wanted in his,

613
00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:24.880
<v Speaker 5>system and the group was signed or committed in Early

614
00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.839
<v Speaker 5>december When Liam cohen going back to THE nfl was

615
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 5>not even on anyone's. Radar same With Jamury macklin adding

616
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.839
<v Speaker 5>him to the, mix and obviously he does have history

617
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.200
<v Speaker 5>with Bush, handen but still that was the guy that

618
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:40.759
<v Speaker 5>was already. Here the running backs were all you, know

619
00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:43.319
<v Speaker 5>in place that were in. Place we're all already, Here

620
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 5>so he had no say on that roster offensively last.

621
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Year then you mix in the issues they had on

622
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.079
<v Speaker 5>the offensive line that he, inherited and and all the

623
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:57.079
<v Speaker 5>injuries that no one can prepare. For so it was

624
00:33:57.240 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 5>just a really sticky situation for him last. Year you,

625
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.119
<v Speaker 5>KNOW i think people can, say, oh you could say

626
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:07.079
<v Speaker 5>the same About Rich, skangarillo but that was there was

627
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 5>some real play calling issues there were last, Year i'm

628
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:11.559
<v Speaker 5>Not i'm not sure it was really down to play.

629
00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>CALLING i think it was just a lack Of jimmy's And.

630
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 5>Joe's so now this year where you add all these

631
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:19.840
<v Speaker 5>transfers that you had a big role in helping bring

632
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.400
<v Speaker 5>here and, say, yeah they fit in my. System And

633
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 5>i'm sure you know and you'll read why he Thinks

634
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:27.360
<v Speaker 5>Zach calsata was the right guy for him like, that

635
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.880
<v Speaker 5>that's a that's on bush hand and. Shoulders now Now

636
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 5>i'm judging. Him now it now comes down, To, okay

637
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 5>if this offense doesn't, improve not as only on, scoops of,

638
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.840
<v Speaker 5>course it's on it's on bush hand a bit, too

639
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 5>and it'll be on the players. Also but hopefully it

640
00:34:43.760 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 5>doesn't come to. That hopefully it just kind of works

641
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 5>out and there's a study. Improvement but you, know you

642
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:50.519
<v Speaker 5>go look at What hamden did At Boise, state and

643
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.320
<v Speaker 5>they had the number six rushing off in the. COUNTRY

644
00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.920
<v Speaker 5>i know they had ash And GenZ and the quarterback

645
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.800
<v Speaker 5>from ark who's now At Arkansas, green but still you

646
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 5>don't do that without some help from your offense. Coordinator

647
00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:03.840
<v Speaker 5>he had a really good he had a thousand yard

648
00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 5>rushier and every. Year he'd been the coordinator up until last,

649
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 5>year and then what he did at the end of

650
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.000
<v Speaker 5>the year At missouri when he took over play calling

651
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.199
<v Speaker 5>With Brady. Cook AND i talked To Brady cook AT

652
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:16.079
<v Speaker 5>sec media days last summer and he kind of credited

653
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.719
<v Speaker 5>hand and for being the guy that turned his college career.

654
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 6>Around SO.

655
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:23.320
<v Speaker 5>I THINK i just don't put too much of this

656
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 5>on his shoulders from last. Year but this year it'll

657
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 5>be a different. Story he'll be looked at differently for

658
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 5>sure because it's his.

659
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Guys oh, yeah but he still got AN o line

660
00:35:32.199 --> 00:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>and right now is a big question mark and whatever

661
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.039
<v Speaker 1>he can do or wants to, do it's all going

662
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to hinge on, them go through.

663
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.079
<v Speaker 5>Them yeah, Yeah, look it looks better on, paper but

664
00:35:42.519 --> 00:35:45.360
<v Speaker 5>you are relying on guys to make the steps From

665
00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.599
<v Speaker 5>Bowling green In New Mexico, State and you, know If

666
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.440
<v Speaker 5>Evan wibberley is the starting center From Western, kentucky, like

667
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 5>there's still a lot of unknown and injuries, happened and

668
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.000
<v Speaker 5>how much does have some of the guys Like Alba

669
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 5>selm And Malachi wood and the guys you're relying on the,

670
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:02.719
<v Speaker 5>depth how much have they improved where if you get

671
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 5>in another bad injury, situation they can plug and play

672
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 5>and be much better than they were a year. Ago so,

673
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:12.760
<v Speaker 5>yeah definitely still plenty of question. Marks there's more questions

674
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 5>and answers on this team as a. Whole that's why

675
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:18.559
<v Speaker 5>you know they're probably when we go down or when

676
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:23.679
<v Speaker 5>THE sec votes on the, ballots AND i Guess july In,

677
00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 5>Atlanta i'm Expecting kentucky to be fifteenth or sixteenth on

678
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.679
<v Speaker 5>those just because there's so much.

679
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Unknown, Wow, WELL i guess that's.

680
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.239
<v Speaker 5>FINE i, mean, yeah, yeah BECAUSE i Mean bandy beat

681
00:36:34.239 --> 00:36:35.639
<v Speaker 5>them last year and they bring back a ton of,

682
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.639
<v Speaker 5>guys and THEN i think they'll be ahead Of Mississippi

683
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.599
<v Speaker 5>state because they were two and ten last year and

684
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:41.400
<v Speaker 5>they're in the same.

685
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Boat, WELL i think The vegas over and UNDER i

686
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>saw on wins Where kentucky was four point, five that's.

687
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Correct didn't really surprise. Me i'm guessing it didn't surprise you.

688
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 5>Either not with the. Schedule, yeah the schedule now you,

689
00:36:57.400 --> 00:36:58.119
<v Speaker 5>know and that's.

690
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>The, thing and you know there's still. Pushing they're gonna

691
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 1>get their ninth.

692
00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:04.519
<v Speaker 5>GAME i, mean we made it's gonna.

693
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Happen we may be looking back at those years That

694
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>kentucky got ten wins and try having to remind ourselves

695
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>how it, happened you know WHAT i.

696
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.320
<v Speaker 5>Mean, yeah, yeah it's gonna be really hard going. Forward

697
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 5>but you know, THIS i do think though to a certain,

698
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 5>extent the portal and nil does even out things a little.

699
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 5>BIT i, mean you've seen new champions last couple of, years,

700
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:29.039
<v Speaker 5>RIGHT i, Mean Ohio state's always in, it but they

701
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 5>hadn't won it all in ten. Years, Uh michigan had

702
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:33.960
<v Speaker 5>won their First NATIONAL championip in a, while and they

703
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 5>Played washington in the title. GAME tcu made the title.

704
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.639
<v Speaker 5>Game georgia hasn't been nearly as dominant the last two

705
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.920
<v Speaker 5>or three. Years alabama, obviously Between saban retiring and even

706
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 5>before he, retired they started to look more, human, like,

707
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 5>uh those programs always going to be, there but like

708
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.480
<v Speaker 5>the chance to have a year Like South carolina had last,

709
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 5>year What missouri has done the last two, years like

710
00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:00.800
<v Speaker 5>that's there For kentucky. Still they just gotta find the right.

711
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:05.119
<v Speaker 5>Players they got to coach. Better, honestly it sounds it sounds,

712
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.280
<v Speaker 5>elementary but it's, true like they just need to do

713
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:10.320
<v Speaker 5>the little things better and get what they need and

714
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 5>they have a chance to be like A Missouri South

715
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.639
<v Speaker 5>carolina and be in the mix every year in THE. Sec,

716
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:17.719
<v Speaker 5>well AND i think that's what they were.

717
00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, exactly and that's what they got to get back.

718
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:22.039
<v Speaker 1>To AND i really believe in some of the comments

719
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 1>That stoops has made and and and some of the you,

720
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 1>know the ex players who talk to people over. There

721
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 1>they got to get back to that blue collar mentality

722
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and you know all the comments And stoops has made

723
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>since then and put it all on. Himself you. Know

724
00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 1>he sets the tone and the ground rules and he's

725
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>got to make it. Happen so we'll see if it works.

726
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:44.559
<v Speaker 1>Out but there's a lot that can happen between now and.

727
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Then Aaron groshan will keep an eye on. It thank, you.

728
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Sir we're talking next.

729
00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 5>Week ye then they.

730
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 1>Come number two is up next WITH eku football Coach

731
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Walt wells and Podcaster Vinnie hardy all ahead on six

732
00:38:56.559 --> 00:40:00.119
<v Speaker 1>THIRTY wlapt stacat.

733
00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 5>Show Anything Can Do, Anything.

734
00:39:51.880 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 8>Don't welcome back to The Big Blue.

735
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.599
<v Speaker 1>Sider joining us down our celebrity hotline is e K

736
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 1>u football Coach Walt wells AND uh Coach welcome. Back

737
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>we we chatted right after your spring game at the,

738
00:40:57.679 --> 00:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>stadium but we haven't had a chance to check any.

739
00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Since when you look back on the, spring what did

740
00:41:04.199 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 1>you think about what you? SAW a lot of new

741
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:08.760
<v Speaker 1>faces and a lot of new. Places right, Right.

742
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:10.920
<v Speaker 6>We got a lot of you, know we had TWENTY

743
00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 6>i want to say twenty seven to twenty eight people

744
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 6>leave us whether through twenty four of them were through,

745
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 6>graduation which is big these. Days but we had some

746
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.280
<v Speaker 6>obviously going To portal and take off from, us so

747
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 6>we had a lot of replacements to. Do AND i

748
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:30.000
<v Speaker 6>really like what our coaches and our players did as

749
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 6>far as just developing and understanding what the position that

750
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 6>they play, takes how it fits into our, defense our,

751
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 6>offense our special. Teams AND i thought we had a

752
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 6>really good spring. Practice SO i was really after watching the,

753
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.519
<v Speaker 6>film sitting down and evaluating the. Players we just got

754
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 6>out of school this past, week SO i just got grades,

755
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 6>Today so we're sitting there going through all, that which

756
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 6>looks like it's been quite honestly like it's gonna be

757
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 6>the highest semester.

758
00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Ever.

759
00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 6>Wow so So i'm a you, know in the fall

760
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 6>was and then the spring is going to break that.

761
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.800
<v Speaker 6>Record so you, KNOW i like where our football team

762
00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 6>is in the culture that we have right, now the

763
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:11.039
<v Speaker 6>character we have on the. Team you, know we've got

764
00:42:11.079 --> 00:42:13.400
<v Speaker 6>some inexperience and we've got to continue to do. That

765
00:42:13.519 --> 00:42:16.719
<v Speaker 6>we added some pieces into portal here the last two

766
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:21.000
<v Speaker 6>or three weeks and now we're getting ready For tuesday

767
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:24.079
<v Speaker 6>After Memorial day to get them all back and get

768
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 6>them going in summer school and working out and training

769
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:27.679
<v Speaker 6>and getting ready for this.

770
00:42:27.840 --> 00:42:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Fall, well you finished in a rush last, year and,

771
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>yeah you've got a lot of new. Faces but as

772
00:42:32.840 --> 00:42:36.519
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned culture and we all know ABOUT eku football.

773
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Culture but controversial loss in the, playoffs we don't need

774
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to get into. That but you guys were rolling by

775
00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 1>the end of last. Year can you with all these new, Faces,

776
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>walt how tough will it be or will it be

777
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:50.239
<v Speaker 1>tough to pick up where you left?

778
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:55.039
<v Speaker 6>OFF i think you know that to be determined to be,

779
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:57.639
<v Speaker 6>honestly we need to see them through the rest of the.

780
00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 6>Summer we need to see them in training. Camp you,

781
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.559
<v Speaker 6>know we don't start. Easy we go To, louisville you,

782
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:05.360
<v Speaker 6>know just don't have a great football team over. There uh,

783
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 6>then but we do get A scs team coming Into

784
00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:13.280
<v Speaker 6>Bailey zaffi's old, Team Houston christians before he went To,

785
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 6>Western so, uh you, know we get them coming in

786
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 6>before we head over To, marshall and so you, KNOW

787
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:23.039
<v Speaker 6>i think we can you, know survive some things and get.

788
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 6>Going and then the four game we go straight into

789
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 6>conference play down At West, georgia who's probably the most

790
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.360
<v Speaker 6>improved team in the. Conference and so we're gonna find

791
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 6>out real quick where we are those week two and.

792
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Four and AND i like our football. TEAM i, like

793
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 6>LIKE i, SAID i like where we're at right, now

794
00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.719
<v Speaker 6>knock on wood and not a lot of major, injuries

795
00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:45.000
<v Speaker 6>so we should be. Okay uh coming, Back we've just

796
00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.480
<v Speaker 6>got to see how these young people developed and we

797
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 6>get you, KNOW i just met with our coaching staff.

798
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 6>YESTERDAY i gave them. Off they're off for the next

799
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:55.559
<v Speaker 6>four or five, days and, UH i just met With

800
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.480
<v Speaker 6>the last THING i said was the, guys we have

801
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 6>to do a great job developing this summer and how

802
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 6>we can develop. Them and you know that we've got

803
00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.440
<v Speaker 6>to have great plans and because they are, young and

804
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.840
<v Speaker 6>we got to understand that they are young and be

805
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:11.760
<v Speaker 6>patient with. Them but we also got to they gotta

806
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:12.360
<v Speaker 6>go be ready to.

807
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Play, yeah we're talking with. Ek you had football Coach Walt,

808
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 1>wells The colonel's coming off an eight and five, season

809
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:21.320
<v Speaker 1>uh six and two in the, league six and zero at.

810
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 1>Home got off to that rough start last, year TWO

811
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>d one Opponent's Mississippi, State Western. Kentucky those were not.

812
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Pretty but as you, said, well actually it was just

813
00:44:32.199 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 1>like this. Year this coming. Year you opened up early

814
00:44:35.079 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 1>in the year With West georgia a conference, game and

815
00:44:38.199 --> 00:44:41.159
<v Speaker 1>you were impressive in that, win which tells, me coach

816
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that your guys were able to refocus within a span

817
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.679
<v Speaker 1>of a few, days which MEANT i felt like you

818
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>had pretty good leadership on that ball club to be

819
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>able to put those losses behind you and jump right

820
00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>into conference play with a good, win you, know and

821
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>if you, can if you can duplicate that this, year

822
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>that's a great that's a great.

823
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:03.679
<v Speaker 6>Advantage that that's you hit the nail on the. Head

824
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.400
<v Speaker 6>that's the biggest thing when you're, playing you, know The

825
00:45:06.519 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 6>louisville's The marshalls like we are this year is you,

826
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:11.199
<v Speaker 6>KNOW i, mean they're they're a.

827
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 7>Challenge you, know we go there to.

828
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.840
<v Speaker 6>WIN i, mean make no bones about. It just like

829
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 6>we Played Mississippi state In western last, Year kentucky and

830
00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 6>and Uh cincinnati the year. BEFORE i, mean we're going

831
00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 6>to win and make no mistakes about. That but the

832
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 6>reality of it, is if it doesn't, happen you the,

833
00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 6>disappointment the the dealing with the, loss and maybe even

834
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 6>a couple of, losses that that is something that you

835
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:42.480
<v Speaker 6>have to fight. Through and you, know we try to tell,

836
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.039
<v Speaker 6>them like, listen we want to win those games more than,

837
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:47.840
<v Speaker 6>anything like and we don't play any game on our

838
00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:51.199
<v Speaker 6>schedule to. Lose but that doesn't affect our, goals which

839
00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 6>are to be undefeated At Roy Kids, stadium win THE

840
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 6>Uac conference and and then go to playoffs and win

841
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.679
<v Speaker 6>a national. Championship that has no effect on that. Whatsoever,

842
00:46:03.039 --> 00:46:07.840
<v Speaker 6>right there's so the only if we, win it has

843
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.159
<v Speaker 6>a positive, effect but if we, lose it has no

844
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 6>effect on. It so don't you, KNOW i get, it

845
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 6>it's important all, that but it's a long. Season you

846
00:46:17.079 --> 00:46:19.559
<v Speaker 6>have to fight through all. THAT i, mean it's hard

847
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:23.119
<v Speaker 6>to go undefeated in the season wherever you're AT, sec you,

848
00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:26.360
<v Speaker 6>Know big, ten, anywhere it's hard TO i, mean look

849
00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 6>At Ohio, state they went it last year they lost To.

850
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 6>Michigan everybody thought it was, devastating, right and they put it.

851
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:37.039
<v Speaker 6>Behind you have to snap and clear and go to

852
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 6>the next one because and that's what life, is to

853
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 6>be honest with. You but but we have, to you,

854
00:46:42.559 --> 00:46:44.760
<v Speaker 6>know understand that and have a. Maturity AND i think you're.

855
00:46:44.800 --> 00:46:47.480
<v Speaker 6>Right the leadership on our football team last, year the

856
00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.800
<v Speaker 6>seniors that we, had especially out of those twenty, four

857
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.079
<v Speaker 6>there was sixteen of them that had been, here you,

858
00:46:53.119 --> 00:46:55.960
<v Speaker 6>know four or five, years and that makes a difference

859
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.920
<v Speaker 6>because they, are you, know guys that have been through

860
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.199
<v Speaker 6>the whole, program the whole, system the whole time we were,

861
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 6>here AND i think that made a difference and gave

862
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:09.320
<v Speaker 6>them a sense of pride and they played with that,

863
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:11.920
<v Speaker 6>pride you, know from The Tarleton state game all.

864
00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yep talking TO eku football Coach Wald. Wells five of your, players,

865
00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:19.840
<v Speaker 1>coach have been named to The Kentucky Pro Football hall

866
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Of Fame Collegiate All Commonwealth. Team it's part of a

867
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 1>great program with The Kentucky Pro Football hall Of. Fame

868
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:32.320
<v Speaker 1>they were always recognized collegiate. Players FIVE eku colonels have been.

869
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Named four of them are on the defensive side of the, football,

870
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 1>coach is that going to be the trademark for THIS

871
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 1>eku team coming? UP i know it's just the, spring

872
00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but when you look at the experienced guys coming, Back Jeremiah,

873
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 1>bailey Gave Fletcher, Veto, Tisday Jeheim, ward those are some

874
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:53.480
<v Speaker 1>special players on. Defense there's no.

875
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 6>QUESTION i think the experience we have on our football

876
00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 6>team right now comes from the defensive side of the. Football.

877
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.480
<v Speaker 6>Uh although we did lose a. LOT i mean we

878
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:07.960
<v Speaker 6>lost you, Know Darien baker And Ryan jackson and marve On,

879
00:48:08.079 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 6>field three starters up front or two starters, upfront and

880
00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 6>in a really quality sub. Uh you, know we Lost

881
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:18.639
<v Speaker 6>Manage marcelli's to THE uh to the. Portal we Lost

882
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.800
<v Speaker 6>Mike smith to The Dallas, cowboys and so you, know

883
00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.639
<v Speaker 6>you hear all, that you, know holy. Cow but there's

884
00:48:26.719 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 6>a lot of guys that had played last. Year AND

885
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.039
<v Speaker 6>i thought we made a great improvement in our defense last.

886
00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 6>Year you, KNOW i Thought Jake, johnson our defensive, coordinator

887
00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 6>did a great, job AND i just think we had

888
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.239
<v Speaker 6>the opportunity to build on that and become a better. Defense,

889
00:48:41.320 --> 00:48:44.880
<v Speaker 6>YES i like where our defense. IS i like our Secondary,

890
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.559
<v Speaker 6>uh you, know you got veto back, there Jaheem ward

891
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 6>is a really good. Player we picked up a young

892
00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 6>man THAT i think is gonna be a group player

893
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 6>for us in the portal From Cumberland university Named Derek.

894
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 6>Taylor you, KNOW i think as we, Continued Caden smith

895
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:03.039
<v Speaker 6>from Uh Taylor county has really come on as a freshman.

896
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 6>Linebacker and he played a little bit last, year probably

897
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 6>GOT i don't, know a couple of hundred snaps and

898
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 6>now he's you, know he looks looks to be a.

899
00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:13.480
<v Speaker 6>Guy you, know he's got to go through camp and

900
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 6>win that job out, Right BUT i mean he's learning

901
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 6>how to play the. Position Braden sullivan and the list goes.

902
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.360
<v Speaker 6>ON i think we've got enough talent on that side

903
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.760
<v Speaker 6>of the ball and experience that we. Should you, know

904
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.840
<v Speaker 6>that's that's who's gonna have to carry us early. On

905
00:49:29.360 --> 00:49:31.320
<v Speaker 6>they're gonna have to do, that and you, know and

906
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.280
<v Speaker 6>it's no easy task first, game you. KNOW i, mean you, Know,

907
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 6>jeff he's gonna have all these big deep shots drawn

908
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.360
<v Speaker 6>up and then crossing the route deep crossers and play action.

909
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.920
<v Speaker 6>Pasts he's gonna have all the trick. Plays you, Know

910
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.400
<v Speaker 6>it's LIKE i told him, YESTERDAY i, said if y'all

911
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:48.599
<v Speaker 6>Think jef's gonna take it easy on, us y'all. Crazy

912
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:50.320
<v Speaker 6>he's just trying to score one hundred and fifty on.

913
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.719
<v Speaker 6>Us and AND i, said so we we, better you,

914
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:56.000
<v Speaker 6>know make sure we know what we're doing and ready to.

915
00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Go and, so.

916
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.440
<v Speaker 6>You, Know i'm excited about our. DEFENSE i like the

917
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:06.000
<v Speaker 6>what where we how we competed but all. Spring But

918
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 6>i'll tell you our offense started coming together there towards

919
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 6>the end and and it became an ebb and flow

920
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 6>of you, know both sides of the ball having some.

921
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.280
<v Speaker 6>Success and SO i like to see where our offense,

922
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:21.199
<v Speaker 6>improved because you, know we lost our two starting tackles

923
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.559
<v Speaker 6>and our starting. CENTER i, mean so we're you, know

924
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.360
<v Speaker 6>we're gonna Be we're gonna be young up front and

925
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 6>and that's okay as part of. IT i mean both

926
00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:32.760
<v Speaker 6>of both our tackles went to THE, cfl and our

927
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 6>center is is uh got HIS nba and is working

928
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:44.719
<v Speaker 6>For Eceland. Hole, now, yeah, Yeah john will be very very.

929
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:45.960
<v Speaker 6>SUCCESSFUL i promise you.

930
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:48.280
<v Speaker 1>That Wal wells is the head coach at E. K

931
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>you will come back and talk more with a coach

932
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of the. Break here on six

933
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 1>thirty w L A. P welcome. Back we're talking with Wal.

934
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Wells he's the head football coach AT Eku and prior

935
00:50:57.480 --> 00:50:59.599
<v Speaker 1>to the, break you were rattling off the names of

936
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 1>some of the kids who have had the opportunity to

937
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>go on to THE nfl and THE. Cfl and that's been,

938
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>happening as you well know coach for decades under way

939
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>back under Coach kid and there have been a lot

940
00:51:10.320 --> 00:51:13.360
<v Speaker 1>of colonels who have gone on to successful pro careers

941
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.079
<v Speaker 1>and now in this day and, age AND i gotta,

942
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>HELL i gotta think this is such a plus for

943
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys at THE fcs level to show, kids, look

944
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.840
<v Speaker 1>you know you can play at this. Level the pros

945
00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:27.800
<v Speaker 1>are going to see. You they're gonna find. You with,

946
00:51:28.000 --> 00:51:32.199
<v Speaker 1>technology with the, internet everything's ON tv, now you know

947
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get your. SHOT i got to, think is

948
00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that even an issue anymore to try to convince.

949
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:41.519
<v Speaker 6>Kids, oh it's always an issue because you, know it's

950
00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:46.039
<v Speaker 6>even worse now because they're recruiting your. Players, yeah so

951
00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 6>you're trying to keep your. Players so The Houston texas

952
00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 6>first overall pick all, right which was a thirty fourth

953
00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:56.159
<v Speaker 6>pick in the second round or thirty four pick. Overall

954
00:51:56.360 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 6>he played his first two years.

955
00:51:57.519 --> 00:52:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Here, WOW i forgot about, that.

956
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:04.039
<v Speaker 6>And so you, know and then he went To Iowa

957
00:52:04.159 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 6>state and had a decent junior, year but then had

958
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.559
<v Speaker 6>a breakout senior year and he could have done that

959
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:11.360
<v Speaker 6>here and probably would have went in the second round

960
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.840
<v Speaker 6>just like. That but you, KNOW i mean it's. Hard you,

961
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:17.119
<v Speaker 6>know the other things he got we couldn't compete. With

962
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:21.840
<v Speaker 6>and you, know no will ill will to. Him he

963
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:28.079
<v Speaker 6>moved on our starting linebacker last, year true, sophomore you,

964
00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:32.599
<v Speaker 6>know All conference. Player he's In virginia, now Freshman All,

965
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 6>americans true freshman that we started at guard after The

966
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:41.280
<v Speaker 6>western game and maybe Freshman All american is gone off to,

967
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:45.440
<v Speaker 6>produce and so you, know you just you, know those

968
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:50.679
<v Speaker 6>are the things you can't. Control and you, know everybody asked,

969
00:52:50.679 --> 00:52:53.639
<v Speaker 6>me how do you handle? That, well you just you

970
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.199
<v Speaker 6>do everything you can to keep. Them you hope that

971
00:52:56.320 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 6>they want to, stay and if they, don't then you

972
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.480
<v Speaker 6>wish them good. Luck can you better have somebody else

973
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.480
<v Speaker 6>to replace? Them and that that's the hardest part, now

974
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 6>is maintaining those like our Safety Mike Smith i'm sure

975
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.559
<v Speaker 6>everybody in the country came after him last, year but

976
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 6>he stayed because he KNEW i have one year. LEFT

977
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 6>i can't risk. It i've been noticed. HERE i mean

978
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.320
<v Speaker 6>we've had you, know the last three, years we've had

979
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:26.280
<v Speaker 6>all thirty two teams at one of our fall, practices

980
00:53:26.320 --> 00:53:29.559
<v Speaker 6>our training camp, practices we've had we've had them here

981
00:53:29.599 --> 00:53:33.039
<v Speaker 6>at all thirty two teams here at least three times

982
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:37.039
<v Speaker 6>in the. Fall and because they know what you, know

983
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:41.199
<v Speaker 6>what's coming out of here now, again and they know

984
00:53:41.320 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 6>what's come out of here in the past with Coach

985
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:47.679
<v Speaker 6>kid And Coach hood and all, them and so you,

986
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:50.880
<v Speaker 6>know they just keep coming and looking, in you, know quite,

987
00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:54.360
<v Speaker 6>FRANKLY i mean geographics help. Us we're thirty miles south

988
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:58.639
<v Speaker 6>OF uk who always has, guys and so they're, LIKE

989
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:01.800
<v Speaker 6>i better not better not you, know know about the

990
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 6>guys At eastern BECAUSE i know they've got some players down,

991
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:07.199
<v Speaker 6>there and we'll have some this. Year But Mike staateen

992
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.039
<v Speaker 6>did That Peyton collins had opportunities to. Leave was shocked

993
00:54:11.079 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 6>he didn't get picked up in THE, nfl but he

994
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 6>had multiple opportunities in THE ufl and THE, cfl and

995
00:54:18.719 --> 00:54:20.960
<v Speaker 6>so he chose THE cfl and he's up THE SUCs

996
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 6>one right, now along With Vincent monland who's At. Montreal

997
00:54:24.239 --> 00:54:26.599
<v Speaker 6>and then we Got Willie taylor who played FOR us

998
00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 6>three years, ago who's you, know won A ufl, championship

999
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.599
<v Speaker 6>so you, know and then we've got other guys on

1000
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 6>The titans And jaguars and here we. Go but but

1001
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:40.119
<v Speaker 6>it's it's you, know it's a credit to our football,

1002
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 6>coaches you, know our assistant coaches recruiting and getting out

1003
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 6>and developing that, talent finding the, talent developing the. Talent

1004
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:48.599
<v Speaker 6>but it's also a credit to those young men that

1005
00:54:48.920 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 6>stayed and believes in what we're, doing you. Know and

1006
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:56.480
<v Speaker 6>the big thing that they can't see is the benefits

1007
00:54:56.599 --> 00:55:01.559
<v Speaker 6>of staying somewhere and having the success they had and

1008
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 6>then being able to come back and come back and come.

1009
00:55:03.880 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 6>Back not that those other guys can't come back, either

1010
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 6>but you, know when you stick around and finish, something

1011
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 6>there's a sense of accomplishment and those are the things

1012
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 6>that we're, losing uh in this portal. Era and you,

1013
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:20.760
<v Speaker 6>know it is what it, is AND i know it's

1014
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.599
<v Speaker 6>not you, know everybody wants to talk about tampering and

1015
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 6>there is coaches At. TAMPA i know, that but really

1016
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:32.320
<v Speaker 6>it's these. Agents like we lost we lost our guys

1017
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:37.079
<v Speaker 6>due to. Agents, yeah and neither one of our those

1018
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:43.760
<v Speaker 6>two guys had met their. Agents what's it's just A

1019
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:48.960
<v Speaker 6>dm and, hey, YEAH i can get. You this amount

1020
00:55:49.000 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 6>of money is if you go into portal nuts and you,

1021
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 6>know if a kid didn't have great, means, yeah you,

1022
00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:03.360
<v Speaker 6>know what's he gonna? Say you, know, yeah people in

1023
00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 6>our town that support it and help us with our

1024
00:56:06.119 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 6>N il colective and things like. That but we don't

1025
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.159
<v Speaker 6>have it like you, Know kentucky has, it or we

1026
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.480
<v Speaker 6>don't have it Like pursue Or virginia or. Wherever we

1027
00:56:14.519 --> 00:56:19.199
<v Speaker 6>don't have the record that they're going to. Have, YEAH i,

1028
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 6>mean it's just where it's. At and so you, know that's,

1029
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:28.519
<v Speaker 6>what in my, opinion the problem with, it because for

1030
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.280
<v Speaker 6>every one of those two guys that want To virginia or,

1031
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:35.280
<v Speaker 6>produce there's another fifteen guys that don't go. Anywhere, yeah

1032
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:36.679
<v Speaker 6>and he's aged to preach out to.

1033
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 1>Him it's. Dangerous, yeah. Yeah too many too many kids

1034
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and too many, kids too many sports jump into the

1035
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:45.239
<v Speaker 1>portal with nowhere to.

1036
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:48.519
<v Speaker 6>Land you, know, uh and they think they think it's,

1037
00:56:48.719 --> 00:56:51.199
<v Speaker 6>that they think it's they're gonna land and be. Fine,

1038
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.159
<v Speaker 6>YEAH i, mean you, know and it's just like everything

1039
00:56:54.239 --> 00:56:57.639
<v Speaker 6>you have TO i MEAN i tell recruit this all the. Time,

1040
00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.360
<v Speaker 6>hey when you come, here it comes because You it's

1041
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:02.440
<v Speaker 6>gonna be hard. Here we're gonna make it hard on you.

1042
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.960
<v Speaker 6>Here that's just how we, are. Okay and there's gonna

1043
00:57:05.960 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 6>be days that even though we haven't done, anything you

1044
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 6>just aren't happy. HERE i, mean that's just how life.

1045
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.840
<v Speaker 6>Is you're not happy every day of your, life you

1046
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.159
<v Speaker 6>know WHAT i. Mean so what are you gonna? Do

1047
00:57:18.239 --> 00:57:20.800
<v Speaker 6>are you gonna? Quit or you gonna fight through? It you,

1048
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:22.440
<v Speaker 6>know you better make sure you're in a place that

1049
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:24.159
<v Speaker 6>you feel like you can fight through, it and you're

1050
00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:26.840
<v Speaker 6>fighting through it for the right cause and for the right,

1051
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:29.119
<v Speaker 6>things and you know some of the and then they

1052
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:31.360
<v Speaker 6>get these guys call and, say, HEY i can jump

1053
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:34.559
<v Speaker 6>this in your lap one hundred thousand. Dollars, well who

1054
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:37.239
<v Speaker 6>isn't gonna try to take advantage of? That and then

1055
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.519
<v Speaker 6>when they, don't they'll blame it. Up they'll blame they'll

1056
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 6>tell them the truth and, say, oh you're just not

1057
00:57:41.519 --> 00:57:48.400
<v Speaker 6>that Good i'm. Sorry, Yeah and what's The what's these

1058
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.679
<v Speaker 6>eighteen to twenty two year olds are finding out is

1059
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:52.039
<v Speaker 6>not everybody in.

1060
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:52.679
<v Speaker 4>The world is.

1061
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:57.199
<v Speaker 6>Believable not every everybody in the world is gonna do

1062
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:01.920
<v Speaker 6>what they, say and there's costing them their, education which

1063
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:05.119
<v Speaker 6>in the long run is what they're gonna, need because

1064
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.239
<v Speaker 6>only two percent go to THE nfl, Anyway AND i was.

1065
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Gonna say that there's in some, instances you, know kids play, six,

1066
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>seven eight years, Ridiculous but in most, instances there's no going.

1067
00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.039
<v Speaker 1>Back you make the wrong decision and there's no Going

1068
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>it's nothing but, regret AND i fear for the kids

1069
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>are going to spend the rest of their life blaming

1070
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:28.840
<v Speaker 1>other people for their own bad. Mistakes you, Know, well.

1071
00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:31.039
<v Speaker 6>It's going to get to a, point AND i totally

1072
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.159
<v Speaker 6>agree with. You it's in me and some other coaches

1073
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.679
<v Speaker 6>we're talking about. This it's going to get to a

1074
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.760
<v Speaker 6>point to where there's going to be some, things some

1075
00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:45.079
<v Speaker 6>serious things, happen and Now i'm talking about, mentally and you,

1076
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:48.760
<v Speaker 6>KNOW i hope none of that, happens but you, know

1077
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:51.400
<v Speaker 6>the trend would be going towards that way because these

1078
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 6>kids are going to get depressed because they left good

1079
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:57.519
<v Speaker 6>situations and situations where they could get their degree paid.

1080
00:58:57.559 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 6>FOR i, mean if you're in A DIVISION i, school

1081
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.920
<v Speaker 6>let's just say you're At. Kentucky you've got all the,

1082
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 6>food you've, got all, this you've got all, That you've

1083
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:07.679
<v Speaker 6>got your, money you got, this you're getting your ref,

1084
00:59:07.800 --> 00:59:12.039
<v Speaker 6>share you're getting all these. Things, right whether you're the

1085
00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 6>best player or the worst, player you're getting all those.

1086
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 6>Things and you jump into portals to find something better

1087
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 6>and it's not. Better, Right how are you who's going

1088
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:31.519
<v Speaker 6>to help you deal with? THAT i, mean because you're

1089
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 6>still young. NOW i hope your, PARENTS i hope a,

1090
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:37.079
<v Speaker 6>COACH i hope somebody. Does but what if they. Don't

1091
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:38.840
<v Speaker 6>what if those you, know we know there's plenty of

1092
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:41.960
<v Speaker 6>kids that don't have that. Available what's going to start

1093
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:42.559
<v Speaker 6>happening to those?

1094
00:59:42.639 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 7>Kids?

1095
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Exactly AND i get, it they you, know the Average jojo, said,

1096
00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:48.400
<v Speaker 6>well they got to hike their boots up and go to.

1097
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 6>Work and, YEAH i agree with. You but if we

1098
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:57.760
<v Speaker 6>could slow this process down a little bit and figure

1099
00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.519
<v Speaker 6>out a way to make it as much of the

1100
01:00:00.599 --> 01:00:03.559
<v Speaker 6>best for them and for us as we, Can Because

1101
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:07.320
<v Speaker 6>i'll be honest with, you it's killing. Coaches, yeah it's

1102
01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 6>killing it's killing coaches because you don't ever. Stop you,

1103
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:13.159
<v Speaker 6>know maybe it used to be a time you could

1104
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:15.159
<v Speaker 6>go out and you, work you, know you do your

1105
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 6>day's work and then you take off and hit the

1106
01:00:17.360 --> 01:00:19.960
<v Speaker 6>golf course and or you, know go see your kids

1107
01:00:20.000 --> 01:00:23.880
<v Speaker 6>play baseball or whatever it. Is and now it's you,

1108
01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:27.880
<v Speaker 6>know official. Visits, yep da da. Da now you got

1109
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.760
<v Speaker 6>to have aficial visits for high school kids because you

1110
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 6>got to get, them like, now earlier than Than. December

1111
01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:37.039
<v Speaker 6>now it's got to be In. May and you, know

1112
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 6>it's just when does it.

1113
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Stop it's the never ending. Story And i'll tell you,

1114
01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:46.559
<v Speaker 1>what five years from, now, wherever wherever we, are we

1115
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:50.159
<v Speaker 1>need to look back on this period of college, athletics

1116
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>AND i bet you we're shaking our heads and scratching

1117
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 1>our heads and talking about how wild it. Is but

1118
01:00:55.199 --> 01:00:57.159
<v Speaker 1>we could talk about that for another couple of hours.

1119
01:00:57.480 --> 01:01:00.159
<v Speaker 1>Forever always a. Pleasure thank you so, much AND i

1120
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:00.760
<v Speaker 1>hope to see you.

1121
01:01:00.840 --> 01:01:03.840
<v Speaker 6>SOON i appreciate you having me. On SORRY i was

1122
01:01:03.840 --> 01:01:05.559
<v Speaker 6>a little running a little light. There, ah you're an,

1123
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:06.360
<v Speaker 6>academic you're.

1124
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 1>Good, YEAH i. UNDERSTAND i have a good.

1125
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:11.239
<v Speaker 6>ONE i appreciate it you. Too Happy Memorial.

1126
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Day Weal well's THE eku had football coach and as he,

1127
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.679
<v Speaker 1>said The colonel's open up With Louisville august Thirtieth, Saturday

1128
01:01:18.760 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>august thirtieth over at of, Course Cardinals stadium and we'll

1129
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Speaker 1>come back and talk MORE uk sports with Podcaster Vinnie

1130
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:29.719
<v Speaker 1>hardy here on six THIRTY Wlap welcome back to The

1131
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Big blue And. Cider joined now by a guy who's

1132
01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:34.800
<v Speaker 1>been on the show several, Times Vinnie. Party he is

1133
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>a podcaster and a coach of a Catch Talk wednesday

1134
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>along With Terry Brown believe In kentucky with our Buddy

1135
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Aaron gershawn And Jalen, witlow the FORMER uk. Quarterback, vinnie

1136
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.000
<v Speaker 1>how's your spring?

1137
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 7>Going so, far so, Good dick enjoying. It got a

1138
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 7>little vacation in a few weeks, ago and you know

1139
01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:57.199
<v Speaker 7>how all ramps up the game.

1140
01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Before you know. It oh, Yeah, WELL i need to

1141
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.880
<v Speaker 1>ask you just to get your take on a bunch

1142
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:07.280
<v Speaker 1>of STUFF uk, related including the latest kid to commit

1143
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:11.639
<v Speaker 1>To Mark. Pope Brayden hawthorne was at one point A

1144
01:02:11.719 --> 01:02:14.880
<v Speaker 1>West virginia signee or at least a commit and the

1145
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.000
<v Speaker 1>next thing you, know he's reopened his recruiting and he

1146
01:02:18.159 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 1>joins At kentucky roster that is just phenomenally, deep right,

1147
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:22.760
<v Speaker 1>Now what do you make of all?

1148
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 6>THIS i was.

1149
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:32.199
<v Speaker 7>SURPRISED i, mean and we see how this every, spring

1150
01:02:32.320 --> 01:02:38.079
<v Speaker 7>we see the the, premature unnecessary hanks about how the

1151
01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.559
<v Speaker 7>team's going to come, together and there's never a need

1152
01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:44.239
<v Speaker 7>to worry about. It i'll say, continually if we're at

1153
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 7>Big Blue madness and we'll have seven, players that's When i'll.

1154
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:52.440
<v Speaker 7>Worry and that's Never it's never gonna. Happen and so you,

1155
01:02:52.519 --> 01:02:55.320
<v Speaker 7>know you keep, thinking, well the roster, complete is, complete

1156
01:02:55.480 --> 01:02:58.239
<v Speaker 7>and you, Know AARON i talked about this last. Night

1157
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:00.880
<v Speaker 7>he thought it was kind of complete maybe After aberdeen

1158
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:03.960
<v Speaker 7>and you, know we thought they were. Done and to

1159
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:10.840
<v Speaker 7>get a kid with this much upside and seemilarly the

1160
01:03:11.000 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 7>right mindset of you, know you saw the, quote IF

1161
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 7>i can come in and, play, Fine if, Not I'll

1162
01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.960
<v Speaker 7>i'll work and you, know contribute next. Year if he

1163
01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 7>comes in with that, mindset you've got that ability as

1164
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 7>the fifteenth man on your. Bench, YEAH i, mean you

1165
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:28.119
<v Speaker 7>gotta love.

1166
01:03:28.199 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 1>That you just don't hear that, anymore do? You for obvious.

1167
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Reasons you, know if IF i, PLAY i. Play IF i,

1168
01:03:35.719 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't i'll just put my head down and go back to. Work,

1169
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.239
<v Speaker 1>uh you know you want to see it. Happen that's

1170
01:03:41.320 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of old, school isn't. It it? Is and.

1171
01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.400
<v Speaker 7>It's refreshing the word because it's just. RARE i.

1172
01:03:49.559 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 5>WAS i was taking aback just reading it because guys

1173
01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 5>can just up and. Move and we saw it with

1174
01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.480
<v Speaker 5>a Kayten lewis and at that POINT i didn't even

1175
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:03.280
<v Speaker 5>think the back court was all that.

1176
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:06.639
<v Speaker 7>Crowded you, know it wasn't that big of a log

1177
01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:10.000
<v Speaker 7>in to, me and he decided to move. On we

1178
01:04:10.159 --> 01:04:13.519
<v Speaker 7>saw it With Travis, perry who it was more of

1179
01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.880
<v Speaker 7>writing on the wall situation with. Him and to See

1180
01:04:17.119 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 7>hawthorne come in and, Say i'm not worried about. It

1181
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 7>IF i can do WHAT i need to do and

1182
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:25.480
<v Speaker 7>get to, play great and if, Not i'll be ready

1183
01:04:25.519 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 7>in you, two that was. Wow that's that's wisdom beyond your.

1184
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Years what does this tell you about The Mark pope

1185
01:04:32.400 --> 01:04:34.440
<v Speaker 1>brand of energy within the program?

1186
01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:42.159
<v Speaker 7>Now it seems to be just you, know the. Positivity

1187
01:04:42.239 --> 01:04:44.039
<v Speaker 7>we see it at every press conference and all the,

1188
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:49.039
<v Speaker 7>interactions AND i think it's just growing you, know guys,

1189
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:54.760
<v Speaker 7>talk recruits. TALK i think the word. Spreading, Yeah Andrew

1190
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:58.039
<v Speaker 7>carr And Lamont butler right after the lost Of. Tennessee,

1191
01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.519
<v Speaker 7>look if you can come To, kentucky you can take it,

1192
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:05.719
<v Speaker 7>there just impromptu on their, own going into spills about

1193
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.719
<v Speaker 7>this right after a rich and. Lost their college career is,

1194
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 7>over and this is what they're saying about the opportunity

1195
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:17.440
<v Speaker 7>that they had At. Kentucky it's just. Unbelievable it was, priceless,

1196
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:23.199
<v Speaker 7>absolutely and it's not. Fake you, know they're not forced

1197
01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 7>or being pushed to say, it and you, know let,

1198
01:05:25.559 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 7>me let me get this queue and say WHAT i

1199
01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.440
<v Speaker 7>need to say right. Now, no they just went into

1200
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 7>that on their, own.

1201
01:05:31.440 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 1>UNSCRIPTED i really Loved Kobe bray's take on not giving

1202
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.440
<v Speaker 1>his uniform back as. Well then you love.

1203
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:38.559
<v Speaker 4>That.

1204
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:42.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Absolutely that's where we're gonna have a tough time

1205
01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:49.840
<v Speaker 7>getting it because you, know they they as fast as

1206
01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:52.280
<v Speaker 7>the season went, by they only had one. Year you

1207
01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 7>Heard Mark pope constantly talk ABOUT i WISH i had more,

1208
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 7>TIME i WISH i had more. Time it looks like

1209
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:02.119
<v Speaker 7>they were able to at warp speed still soak up

1210
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:04.320
<v Speaker 7>what they were, experiencing, right.

1211
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Right And i'm curious, too And pope talked about, it

1212
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:11.599
<v Speaker 1>AND i had a chance to talk With Cody, figer

1213
01:06:11.639 --> 01:06:13.880
<v Speaker 1>an assistant, coach the other night about this as. Well

1214
01:06:14.840 --> 01:06:19.920
<v Speaker 1>now with staff in, place system in, place, video they

1215
01:06:19.960 --> 01:06:23.000
<v Speaker 1>can look back on from this past, year you, know

1216
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:25.679
<v Speaker 1>with new players and with the older players as well

1217
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:30.639
<v Speaker 1>the returning, players the process should be accelerated a little,

1218
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:31.199
<v Speaker 1>bit don't you?

1219
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:33.599
<v Speaker 6>THINK i think so.

1220
01:06:33.800 --> 01:06:38.360
<v Speaker 7>Too and was it in coach coach press the other

1221
01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.360
<v Speaker 7>day where he said the year two as a, staff

1222
01:06:42.880 --> 01:06:46.079
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna be. Better and that's SOMETHING i hadn't even thought.

1223
01:06:46.079 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 7>About we hear it for players year, one the year,

1224
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:53.360
<v Speaker 7>two the, jump the, improvement all of, that and then

1225
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.119
<v Speaker 7>he talked about them as a staff because he didn't

1226
01:06:56.960 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 7>he Knew figure of, course and of Course Mark, fox

1227
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:02.719
<v Speaker 7>but he hadn't worked with you, Know Alvin brooks and

1228
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 7>hard And McLean and all those.

1229
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:05.119
<v Speaker 1>Guys so the.

1230
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:09.360
<v Speaker 7>The jailing in the chemistry that he talks about and

1231
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.760
<v Speaker 7>expects from them as a staff is just you, know

1232
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:14.440
<v Speaker 7>we're not even going to think about, it but they're

1233
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:19.199
<v Speaker 7>they're kind of factoring that in to improvement as.

1234
01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah we're talking To Annie hardy he is a,

1235
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:25.599
<v Speaker 1>podcaster a, broadcaster and he is a co host Of

1236
01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Catch Talk wednesday And believe In. Kentucky and of course

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about The. Wildcats it can't start fast. ENOUGH i.

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<v Speaker 1>Know for basketball, fans this kind of reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>the old days because football has been a little. Wobbi

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about football here in a, minute but there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much energy now about basketball coming off this past,

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<v Speaker 1>season plus the brand new, roster and it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of old, school isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It?

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<v Speaker 7>Definitely definitely It's as basketball, fans it's kind of what

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<v Speaker 7>we were accustomed. TO i think we just grew up expecting, to,

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<v Speaker 7>uh you, know be, relevant be contending every single. Year

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<v Speaker 7>for me as a, TEENAGER i always kind of gauged,

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<v Speaker 7>it you, know we had the five for, me the

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<v Speaker 7>five core games they always played of, Course, Louisville North, Carolina,

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<v Speaker 7>indiana And tennessee. Twice those were the. FIVE i always

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<v Speaker 7>said that if they go five and, THIRTY i want

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<v Speaker 7>to win those. Five but if if they went to me,

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<v Speaker 7>realistically if they went four and one or five and

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<v Speaker 7>zero in those, five where you knew they were going

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<v Speaker 7>to be. Good the rest of the year based on

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<v Speaker 7>how they did in those five, games and that's it's

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<v Speaker 7>kind of back to that for me as far as

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<v Speaker 7>the excitement looking forward to, it the. Expectations matter of,

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<v Speaker 7>fact you, Know indiana's coming back on the. SCHEDULE i about.

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<v Speaker 1>That, yeah uh you you're excited about, that.

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<v Speaker 6>You, know And i'm.

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<v Speaker 7>Not and there's probably maybe the generation a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>older than.

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<v Speaker 9>Me that.

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<v Speaker 7>They were really upset to see it. Go But i'm

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<v Speaker 7>owed us to remember. It and you, know you, Know

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<v Speaker 7>Derrick Anderson duncan on the, guys you KNOW i. WAS

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<v Speaker 7>i grew up in that, era you, know in the,

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<v Speaker 7>nineties SO i enjoyed. IT i wasn't as upset when

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<v Speaker 7>it went, away BUT i owned us to remember it

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<v Speaker 7>being a. Thing And i'm glad it's, back even though

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<v Speaker 7>they're still not what they. Were it'll be cool to

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<v Speaker 7>see it come.

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<v Speaker 1>Back, Well, INDIANA i had not kept up his end

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<v Speaker 1>of the. DEAL i, mean it's not. Fun it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the UK u of l. Rivalry at one. POINT i

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<v Speaker 1>remember When horror Of horrors that game is relegated TO espn,

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<v Speaker 1>two just because you, know both teams kind of struggled

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<v Speaker 1>for a little, while you, know BASKETBALL i think you'll

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<v Speaker 1>read college basketball is much better off when the blue

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<v Speaker 1>bloods are the blue bloods, again right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah and the they're going on forty years without a,

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<v Speaker 7>title and that's just, UH i, mean, goodness. Gracious, yeah it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost hard to imagine given given the amount of talent

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<v Speaker 1>high school talent in the state Of indiana.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, right for, boys, girls the, whole all up and

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<v Speaker 7>down the. State, uh you, know And kentucky's gotten some

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<v Speaker 7>of their players that come down. HERE i, mean you

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<v Speaker 7>Know Mark tigue In napolis on the point guard that

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<v Speaker 7>won a national championship for The. Cats you, know go

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<v Speaker 7>back To Kyle, Macy Roger harden for. Years, yeah and

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<v Speaker 7>for them not to be able to to kind of

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<v Speaker 7>keep it, going you, know same thing With. Georgia you

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<v Speaker 7>got all those talent there and they're never really great in.

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<v Speaker 7>Basketball that's really. Weird and they've been through several coaches

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<v Speaker 7>and it just hasn't reignited.

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<v Speaker 1>Itself for him Is Vinnie hardy is a, podcaster a

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast and we will come back and Talk kentucky football

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<v Speaker 1>in just a minute here on A Big Blue sider

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<v Speaker 1>six THIRTY. Wlap welcome. Back we're talking With Vinnie. Hardy

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<v Speaker 1>he is a co host Of Catch Talk wednesday With Terry,

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<v Speaker 1>BROWN I believe In kentucky With Aaron gershaw And Jalen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolow you also hear him talking To Vinnie hardy on

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<v Speaker 1>he Is Vinnie. Hardy you also hear him talking To

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<v Speaker 1>Van hiles every now and, Then why don't we talk

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01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of? Football this is a big question

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<v Speaker 1>mark season coming up and a lot of people think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be pivotal For Mark stoops in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of his stay At. Kentucky do you think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be that? DRAMATIC i think it could.

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<v Speaker 7>Be to, me is you, know we just talked about

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<v Speaker 7>how excited you are for the basketball expectations every, year

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<v Speaker 7>and we were starting to getting doses of that in

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<v Speaker 7>football you had a couple of ten wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Seasons.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Yeah kentucky's getting talked, about not at All bamma,

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01:12:00.439 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 7>level but not down at the doormat. Level and you

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<v Speaker 7>get talked. About and we shouldn't care what people think of,

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<v Speaker 7>us but we we. Do when outside of we're talking

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<v Speaker 7>good About. Kentucky that made you so good to turn

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01:12:13.399 --> 01:12:16.159
<v Speaker 7>on a show or fine bomb whatever is you're watching

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01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:20.359
<v Speaker 7>they're talking positive About. Kentucky, oh as far as this

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<v Speaker 7>year for, me it's kind of it's kind of like you,

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<v Speaker 7>know you you you have a, diagnosis you get some,

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<v Speaker 7>tests rent and you're waiting to see what the results,

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<v Speaker 7>are and that that. Nervousness, OH i hope it's good,

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<v Speaker 7>news but you know it could be bad news health.

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<v Speaker 7>Wise it's kind of Where i'm, at a very small

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01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:46.079
<v Speaker 7>portion of me thinks where they could prove everybody wrong

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<v Speaker 7>and you, know get the bad taste out of their

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<v Speaker 7>mouth and win seven eight. Games and then there's part

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<v Speaker 7>of me that, Thinks, god this is it's been trending

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<v Speaker 7>them the wrong way for a.

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<v Speaker 1>While and.

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<v Speaker 7>The schedule is ridiculous. Again you Into september and all

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<v Speaker 7>Through october is just just. Brutal, Yeah and in that,

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<v Speaker 7>part you, know the dread of the bad results from

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<v Speaker 7>the doctors kind of just it's like that cloud is

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<v Speaker 7>just hanging OVER i.

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<v Speaker 1>Think AND i don't know about, you AND i hate

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<v Speaker 1>to be, pessimistic but you, know as hard as they are,

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<v Speaker 1>working have, worked will work On kentucky. Football just the

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01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:29.159
<v Speaker 1>way the league is so much tougher now they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to add another conference. GAME i wonder how, many if

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<v Speaker 1>ever ten win seasons we're going to see in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Future you, know it's just it's harder and harder on

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<v Speaker 1>The kentuckys of the, world you, know those Those South

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<v Speaker 1>carolina And, missouri those teams sort of in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the, pack you know What i'm saying.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly and for for, me the the two they just

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<v Speaker 7>had were the first ones i'd. Seen you, Know i've

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<v Speaker 7>Met Sonny collins And Deck. RAMSEY i was just born

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<v Speaker 7>in seventy. SEVENTH i didn't see ten and. One my

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<v Speaker 7>dad talked about that AND i was able to meet

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<v Speaker 7>more And brian and those. Guys so to see you,

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<v Speaker 7>know ten and one and the victory Over iowa And Penn,

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<v Speaker 7>state that was my, whoa this Is that's the best

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<v Speaker 7>it's ever been for. Me so you know it's that

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<v Speaker 7>was what forty three when that. Happened so, yeah that's you,

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<v Speaker 7>know that's a that's a good bit of time between

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<v Speaker 7>ten wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Seasons, yep, yeah it's, uh it's it's gonna be, tough but,

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<v Speaker 1>uh they got a lot of new faces and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be weird because it's almost like a blackout of

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<v Speaker 1>information between and the spring and when words starts kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leaking out prior to what they call camp In.

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<v Speaker 1>August how are these guys gonna come? Together that's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a great, mystery isn't?

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<v Speaker 3>It it?

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<v Speaker 7>Is and it's chival, yeah for any kind of, success

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<v Speaker 7>and that you, know we have every year to bonding

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<v Speaker 7>and team building. Exercise every team does. It and this,

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<v Speaker 7>year like you, said for so many new faces coming

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<v Speaker 7>in trying to acclimate and for. It and think he's

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get back to the way they were procedure,

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<v Speaker 7>wise routine, wise because sounds like that it kind of gone.

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<v Speaker 7>Awry so trying to get back to the way they

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<v Speaker 7>were for those that are, there and then acclimating all

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<v Speaker 7>the new guys into, hey this is the way it

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<v Speaker 7>has to. Be it's a lot that's going to have

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<v Speaker 7>to go on and you, know go smoothly for it

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<v Speaker 7>to translate into the.

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<v Speaker 1>Field how important do you think it is For kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>at some point to be able to move away from

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<v Speaker 1>being so dependent when it comes to quarterback on the?

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<v Speaker 1>Portal Because i've talked about this a, Lot vinie this.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring you, Know Drew barker was the answer before he got.

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<v Speaker 1>Hurt he was supposed to be the guy who took

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<v Speaker 1>over as a starter as a sophomore and held the

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<v Speaker 1>job for three you, know progressive, years three fruitful years

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<v Speaker 1>and give them a chance to build depth at. Quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>but he gets hurt and now the next, thing you,

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<v Speaker 1>know it's it's juco transfers and and, uh you, know

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01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.680
<v Speaker 1>try portal transfer stuff like, that and they haven't been

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<v Speaker 1>able to break that. Cycle you, know do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a real? Problem BUT i mean it does happen

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<v Speaker 1>across the, country doesn't.

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<v Speaker 7>It it does WHAT i think it would definitely help

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<v Speaker 7>some checky because we've we haven't seen, that like you,

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<v Speaker 7>said Since Drew barker when he was gonna step in

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<v Speaker 7>and then you, know got. Injured that and the continuity

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<v Speaker 7>at off of the coordinator go hand in, hand and

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<v Speaker 7>we haven't seen a lot of. Either you, know we're

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01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:57.720
<v Speaker 7>finally getting you two Of Bush, hampdon so maybe that

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<v Speaker 7>can you, know go well and then the quarterback situation

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<v Speaker 7>can work yourself. Out and you, KNOW i think they

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<v Speaker 7>there's a correlation. THERE i do, Believe, gabe and we

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<v Speaker 7>we haven't seen continuity from. Either that's, True.

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<v Speaker 1>That's, True and, uh you, know it all just kind

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01:17:16.840 --> 01:17:20.039
<v Speaker 1>of washes together at some, point as you, say WITH

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<v Speaker 1>o c's and, QB's and you, know and and it

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<v Speaker 1>works out in the short. Term Will levis had a

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<v Speaker 1>great first year and then you, know the old line

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<v Speaker 1>leaves for the most. Part AND i truly, believe again

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<v Speaker 1>not pointing, fingers BUT i do Think, vinnie it's been

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<v Speaker 1>in the last three years primarily about the old. Line

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<v Speaker 1>what do you, SAY i think so.

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<v Speaker 7>Too that's that's. CAVOTAL i, think you, know Jager burton

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<v Speaker 7>is gonna have a lot of pressure placed on him

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<v Speaker 7>as a leader to you, know a veteran guy now

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<v Speaker 7>to kind of show these new guys coming in how

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<v Speaker 7>we have to be as a. Unit levis year, two

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<v Speaker 7>If liam had been, there what would that have been?

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<v Speaker 7>Like we'll never know what, ever we go again with

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<v Speaker 7>THE ocqv, thing but THAT o line look moving, forward

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<v Speaker 7>but still you, know not forgetting the big blue ball

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<v Speaker 7>in their identity and just they all have a bad

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<v Speaker 7>taste the whole team four and. Eight nobody likes, that

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<v Speaker 7>but as an old, line specifically when The South carolina

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01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:33.159
<v Speaker 7>game happened and exposed them and we saw what we

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<v Speaker 7>saw the rest of the, year no doubt they want

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<v Speaker 7>to prove that that's not who they.

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<v Speaker 1>Are, well and FORTUNATELY i heard one of the players

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<v Speaker 1>in an interview we did say exactly what you just.

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<v Speaker 1>Said nobody ever wants to go through that. Again the

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<v Speaker 1>four win, season which tells you where they had been

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<v Speaker 1>prior to that, year what the expectations, were and you

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<v Speaker 1>know what they Believe kentucky football ought to. Be SO

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<v Speaker 1>Plus you can hear him On Cats Talk wednesday With

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Brown believe In kentucky With aaron Ger. Sean follow

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<v Speaker 1>him On twitter At Vinnie. Hardy thank, you, sir good

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<v Speaker 1>talking to.

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<v Speaker 1>thanks to my Guests Vinnie hardy To Coach Wald, Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Me kayu And Aaron. Gershwan tomorrow, night The Chain gang

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<v Speaker 1>will join me here in the, garage will solve some

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<v Speaker 1>do it though for, Now thanks so. Much that's. It

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<v Speaker 1>good night from the garage And Lexington.

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