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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time now for our community connection. Right here on

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<v Speaker 1>K one, the one you trust, and right here in

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<v Speaker 1>studio we have a doctor Jerome van Kikin and professor.

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<v Speaker 1>We have got a big event coming up on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>What we have.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, We'll have the Creed We Need, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>community event about the seventeen hundredth anniversary of the Nicene

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<v Speaker 2>Creed held at Oklahoma Westley University six thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I go to a church, we repeat the Nicene

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<v Speaker 1>Creed ever we recited every time we have a worship service.

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<v Speaker 1>But for those who don't know what the creed is,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit about just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. We got to come to the event to

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<v Speaker 1>fight the whole history and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, yeah, So this is the most widely accepted

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<v Speaker 2>creed across Christian denominations, across history. It binds Christians from

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<v Speaker 2>all sorts of backgrounds together and started in the three

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds AD and church council got together to put it together,

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<v Speaker 2>and since then it's become incredibly influential.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it is one thing that when I resigned, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of how much there was things pulling each other

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<v Speaker 1>apart prior to that, and how this came together to

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<v Speaker 1>unify things. And I can't even imagine the world back then,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone how people were thinking. But in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what they say, puts the bow on it

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<v Speaker 1>and ties it all together. Oklahoma, Wesleyan University, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>right here in Bartlesville. We've been having some very nice

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<v Speaker 1>presentations and talks over the past year or so that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been familiar with, and this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>another one. What's the cost to get in? Ah?

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<v Speaker 3>It's free?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Okay? Well, then you go there, you go, there,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, get you tickets. Now where are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to hold this at Lion Hall?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it'll be at Line Hall all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, tell us a little bit about your background and

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<v Speaker 1>what you teach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am Professor Christian Thought at the school, which

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<v Speaker 2>basically means I teach some Bible survey classes to freshmen.

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<v Speaker 2>I teach what's called Christian worldview to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>our non ministry majors, and then I teach ministry courses

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<v Speaker 2>as well theology and philosophy.

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<v Speaker 1>You come from a little bit. This kind of runs

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<v Speaker 1>in the family, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad's a pastor in southern Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been doing it for a little bit, imagine, and

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<v Speaker 1>you went to Kentucky Bible College.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kentucky Mountain Bible College.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I forgot the mountain there. But you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is really kind of neat. We are talking about Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>Wesleyan University before we came on the air and how

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<v Speaker 1>this campus is so nicely position right out there in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods and so to speak. And you've got a

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<v Speaker 1>real good spirit of community out there from everything that

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we've got a great administration and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of collegiality among my fellow professors and then students that

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<v Speaker 2>we love to pour into.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, something you're welcoming in more. I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>apartments going up across the street, and that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a little bit easier for some students to

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<v Speaker 1>make this their four year destination. And of course, with

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<v Speaker 1>the creed we still need, We're going to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to that a little bit here. That's coming up six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty Tuesday at Oklahoma Wesleyan University. You really don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to miss this, and you really don't have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a person of any denomination to attend if you got

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<v Speaker 1>that curiosity, and especially if you are a Christian and

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, what am I missing here? Did I miss something?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great way to do some exploration and

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<v Speaker 1>really learn a few things and kind of get immersed

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<v Speaker 1>in something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I just my son just joined the Air Force and

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<v Speaker 2>part of getting in the training that he has for that,

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<v Speaker 2>as they have the Airman's Creed that captures the core

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<v Speaker 2>values of the Air Force. And so if we think

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<v Speaker 2>about the Nicene Creed, this creed that we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be talking about as being like that, it just captures

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<v Speaker 2>the core values of Christianity.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's good to know it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, once you know that, it stays with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you might have been somebody who learned this maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in Sunday school or vacation Bible school, because not every

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<v Speaker 1>church recites this every Sunday, Right, So if yours doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come on in, the door's open, we're going to learn

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<v Speaker 1>a few things and we're going to share a few things.

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<v Speaker 1>There's going to be any Q and A on this,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, I knew it. If you got a professor involved,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be a Q and A because professors like

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<v Speaker 1>to answer questions, well most do, most do, and Professor

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<v Speaker 1>Van Kaik and this is going to be a really

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool Is there going to be a panel or

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be flying solo?

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<v Speaker 3>It'll just be me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go. You can't you can't ask for

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. You know you're gonna fly solo on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. And it's gonna be a very like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>very warm, very open, uh surrounding there. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>to Lion Hall, there's not a bad seat in the house,

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<v Speaker 1>not a pas seat, and they're all pretty comfortable. So

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<v Speaker 1>how long is this gonna last? About an hour or so?

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<v Speaker 1>An hour an hour and this is good. So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>if you're heading to your Sunday school class or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>meeting up with some of your church friends this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>come as a group. You know, everybody's got the invitation,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's gonna nobody's all good. But this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that I think should really be celebrated. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the creed. We still need. Are we finding some parts

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<v Speaker 1>of Christianity kind of getting away from this? I think

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<v Speaker 1>we see this some splintering taking up, even further splintering

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<v Speaker 1>taking place, and as a professor of Christian thought. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>how did that? How does that feel? I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>see that it can't sit well with you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean because even church's nominations that may not recite

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<v Speaker 2>the nice and crete every Sunday historically have had the

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<v Speaker 2>same values, even if they haven't expressed in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>But unfortunately, nowadays there are a lot that are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of drifting away from even those values.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some forms of proclaimed Christianity that have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fallen off the board so much. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>recognize it. And I don't think I'm being a bad

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<v Speaker 1>guy for saying it doesn't look the same to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the observation.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy. Well, hopefully with this folks can make individual commitment

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<v Speaker 1>once they hear about this, or reaffirm, and that's really

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing to do, is to come in and

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<v Speaker 1>reaffirm during this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I have a book that I've written, a

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<v Speaker 2>little book called The Creed We Need that will also

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<v Speaker 2>be made available at the end of the of this event.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have that out there on that Amazon thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Amazon?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Oh, okay, The Creed we Need I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go procure that with my grandit card here in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>This is great and anything that folks need to bring,

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<v Speaker 1>should they bring anything with them just themselves in an

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<v Speaker 1>open mind, yeah and an open heart.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you for coming in and once

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<v Speaker 1>again that is the creed we still need. That'll be

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty Tuesday at Oklahoma Wesleyan University. Admission is free

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll be a Lion Hall. You can't miss. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about the first thing you see when you pull in

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. It's huge. Thank you, professor, sir. Folks

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<v Speaker 1>you've been watching and listening to our community connection