Speaker 1: Well, hopefully that one leaves you feeling a little bit better.
Speaker 1: At least I would hope it would, because the Jayhawks
Speaker 1: go to the happiest place on Earth and they absolutely
Speaker 1: drop one on UCF. They're having fun in Florida, staying
Speaker 1: in extra night where it's sixty five degrees right now,
Speaker 1: while at least LANDA and I, who live near the
Speaker 1: University of Kansas, there's enough snow to like, there's more
Speaker 1: snow than David Quoit is tall and inches outside on
Speaker 1: my front porch. Land and I assume like you're in
Speaker 1: an apartment complex, so you probably don't own a snowshovel.
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you don't look forward to
Speaker 1: that part of home ownership. It absolutely sucks. Giant ass.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I've shoveled snow before, as the son of a father
Speaker 3: that was deep. I have shoveled some snow in the past.
Speaker 2: I do not own one.
Speaker 3: I need one, because, like you said, there is about
Speaker 3: a David quoite amount of snow in my parking lot
Speaker 3: right now, and they quote unquote plowed it.
Speaker 2: By plowed it.
Speaker 3: There was like a truck that came plowed one path
Speaker 3: and backed out, thus creating very large banks UH behind
Speaker 3: cars which are not conducive to backing cars out of spots.
Speaker 1: And that will turn into ice overnight, and then it
Speaker 1: will become next to impossible to you thought shoveling snowballs
Speaker 1: was fun, then you get a shovel ice balls and
Speaker 1: snow that will just kind of sit there until the
Speaker 1: middle half of March when Kansas loses in the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't wait. I absolutely cannot wait for what
Speaker 3: at this rate is gonna be like Tuesday morning when
Speaker 3: that happens.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Well, Cam, you're in Chicago, you're north of us,
Speaker 1: but receiving snow. You didn't get get any part of this?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it?
Speaker 1: Sonny and seventy five?
Speaker 2: There? No, It's completely melancholy and depressing. I just have
Speaker 2: the comforting sounds of gunshots as I go to bed.
Speaker 2: But in other news, I'm happy that Kansas one today.
Speaker 2: Florida Badunga is a man. kJ Abdays had a great
Speaker 2: game which sets the UH Jayhawks back away, and my
Speaker 2: buddy Jared Goff just threw a pick and I'm not
Speaker 2: feeling great about that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Yeah, Cam is a Lions fan.
Speaker 1: God bless him, and you are watching the Battle for
Speaker 1: the NFC North hoping that your fourteen win Lions don't
Speaker 1: have to go on the road for their playoff run.
Speaker 1: You are, you're gonna be hanging on pins and needles
Speaker 1: watching this while we talk about the game that was
Speaker 1: almost as exciting.
Speaker 2: You could have just stopped that sentence with you might
Speaker 2: be hanging I don't think it's just the things that
Speaker 2: our fan base has been through to get this far.
Speaker 2: And then I'm watching Jared Goff just throw to the
Speaker 2: other team. It's just not not great. But you know what,
Speaker 2: maybe just maybe they'll they'll pull it out. Maybe we'll see,
Speaker 2: you'll find out you already know. You already know by the.
Speaker 1: Time you're listening to this, But we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: over the course of this. I'm assuming sometime around the
Speaker 1: ask RCB section will be the final couple minutes. And
Speaker 1: then by the time we're being so by the time
Speaker 1: we're previewing a super exciting can Us versus Landon's favorite
Speaker 1: sleeper Arizona State team, you might just watch Jared Goff win.
Speaker 1: They did, they did. They're better than Utah. I'll give
Speaker 1: you that.
Speaker 2: That's one out of sixteen. How bad is Colorado?
Speaker 1: Then very very bad? They're very bad. Colorado is awful,
Speaker 1: you sef though, UCF just might be the worst basketball
Speaker 1: team in this conference. Or Kansas there there's yeah, there's
Speaker 1: only a couple of explanations. But we are here to
Speaker 1: talk about Kansas dropping a hammer on UCF and getting
Speaker 1: back in the wind calm. It'll be a fun show.
Speaker 1: This is inside the Paint on Rock Chalk Blog. I
Speaker 1: am Ryan Landreth, I'm Landon Fields.
Speaker 2: And I'm Florida. But doing is soon to be agent. Yeah,
Speaker 2: just a lot more.
Speaker 1: You might want to get on that if you're if
Speaker 1: you're hoping, because I swear he moved up about fifteen
Speaker 1: spots on NBA mock drafts boards with that, with one
Speaker 1: dribble move, yeap, then that I know a eurostep that
Speaker 1: had us all mouth agape and going oh so much
Speaker 1: like crossing on the show notes, next year of Flory
Speaker 1: will be fun. To the next slash last fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty games of Floory will be fun. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here very long. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sadly, I think you're right.
Speaker 3: This is feeling like a Johnny Furfy situation.
Speaker 1: All right, let's blow the airhorn and talk. Oh, okay, Cam,
Speaker 1: you want to you're already ready to go, go for it.
Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna say, unlike Furfey, I think
Speaker 2: it won't be a mistake for him to leave for
Speaker 2: the NBA. Shout out to Furfy, but no, he's probably
Speaker 2: gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: They could use Johnny Furfey right now. And when I
Speaker 1: think of when Johnny Furpey's career at Kansas kind of
Speaker 1: got started, I think about him playing well in that
Speaker 1: UCF loss from a year ago, which kind of go
Speaker 1: we go, we come full circle because much like last year,
Speaker 1: Kansas built a sixteen point lead in the first half
Speaker 1: against UCF, but this time they didn't totally crap it away.
Speaker 1: Let's talk all about it. What a score number seven?
Speaker 1: Kansas ninety nine the UCF. That's not right. Let me
Speaker 1: try that again. Kansas ninety nine UCF. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: read it. They scored.
Speaker 2: Points.
Speaker 1: Why won't it Let me say the number of points
Speaker 1: they scored? What I blow out ninety nine to forty eight,
Speaker 1: forty eight points in a basketball game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brian, even when you're trying to say the score,
Speaker 3: you had a slightly better shooting percentage than UCF.
Speaker 1: That is true. I think I went one for five,
Speaker 1: which is twenty percent, and UCF I don't think got
Speaker 1: to twenty percent on twos. What a colossal disappointment it
Speaker 1: was for their fans, but overall a really nice game
Speaker 1: for Kansas. Fresh off and ugly conference opener, Kansas went
Speaker 1: into Orlando. They kicked all of the ass and took
Speaker 1: all of the names, leading wire to wire. They built
Speaker 1: a nineteen point halftime lead, only to then blow it
Speaker 1: open and win the second at by thirty three. Add
Speaker 1: those numbers together and you get fifty one points, which
Speaker 1: is what Kansas did. Actually, those two numbers together are
Speaker 1: not fifty one points. That would be fifty two. How
Speaker 1: about a thirty two point second half that would get
Speaker 1: you to fifty one total points. The end result was
Speaker 1: an insane ard. It is hard. Also, you know what
Speaker 1: else is hard is stopping Hunter Dickinson, which we'll talk about.
Speaker 1: The end result for Kansas wasn't insane, ninety nine to
Speaker 1: forty eight final score marking the biggest win margin in
Speaker 1: a road conference game for the Jayhawks in their program history.
Speaker 1: It is fair to say that revenge was served. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: let's throw a throwback to last year. You remember Land
Speaker 1: and you were on the show. You remember that oh
Speaker 1: darn feeling that we were starting to let creep into
Speaker 1: our souls when Kansas blew that game in Orlando right
Speaker 1: around this time last year. Well, do you feel the
Speaker 1: opposite this year? Are you starting to feel a little
Speaker 1: uplifting presence? Like hmm, maybe they're starting to figure it out?
Speaker 3: Uh ye, I was impressed with how Kansas played. It
Speaker 3: would hard to it would be hard to not be
Speaker 3: impressed with a fifty one point road win. Kansas doesn't
Speaker 3: even usually win by fifty one points against the absolute
Speaker 3: scrub teams they play, So a very, very impressive performance,
Speaker 3: no doubt. I do think a couple things super notable.
Speaker 3: You see if their weaknesses clearly the interior exactly Kansas's strength,
Speaker 3: that I think goes a lot. Again, they won by
Speaker 3: fifty one. I'm not trying to discredit a fifty one
Speaker 3: point win. I'm just trying to point out a few
Speaker 3: things here. You seef bad at the sport of basketball.
Speaker 3: I think I think that's not a good team, mostly
Speaker 3: because their primary strategies seem to be dribble and pull
Speaker 3: up and shoot from anywhere on the court, whether regardless
Speaker 3: of amount of open and that didn't go very well
Speaker 3: for them, and I think that largely contributed to their
Speaker 3: very very poor shooting numbers. I liked the speed at
Speaker 3: which Kansas played with a lot. I liked the intensity
Speaker 3: they played with a lot. They clearly knew what they
Speaker 3: wanted to do, and as soon as they realized the
Speaker 3: way UCF was going to play them defensively, they knew
Speaker 3: exactly what they wanted to do. And Hunter Dickinson had
Speaker 3: twenty and seven in the first half, which is unreal.
Speaker 3: We'll definitely talk about him later, but it was a
Speaker 3: great performance. It was a great performance, great energy. They
Speaker 3: looked good, they looked very sharp. But kind of, as
Speaker 3: we're getting at Cam, your thoughts, what did we actually
Speaker 3: learn from a team that UCF was so clearly overmatched
Speaker 3: stylistically the perfect matchup for Kansas in a lot of ways.
Speaker 3: And Kansas obviously played they played really well. But is
Speaker 3: there much to take away other than good team, bad team.
Speaker 2: I think there's things you can take away from the game.
Speaker 2: I will say that honestly, UCF compared to Kansas, I
Speaker 2: mean they, like you said, they do not match up
Speaker 2: well with Kansas whatsoever, Kay, you played awesome today. I
Speaker 2: think they definitely were pissed off. They came out ready
Speaker 2: to play. But that being said, I mean Kansas scored
Speaker 2: an egregious amount of points inside the paint. Shoutouts to
Speaker 2: our podcast. And when you're playing against good teams in
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve, whether it's Baylor or Iowa State, even
Speaker 2: Houston whoever, that won't be the case. That being said,
Speaker 2: seeing players like Ryland Griffin get some good run, even
Speaker 2: aj Storre despite being buried in the doghouse for the
Speaker 2: first half, it was good to see and I do
Speaker 2: think it might be a turning point for this team.
Speaker 2: That being said, the same issues still are there. It
Speaker 2: is UCF great, great win on the road, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not sold that this team is back, but it
Speaker 2: was definitely a good step in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was great to see Kansas come
Speaker 1: out with a lot of pride. I know, in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years they've lost more than they normally have,
Speaker 1: and it seems like a common complaint on Rock Schok blog.
Speaker 1: Credit to you two and Nick from last year. None
Speaker 1: of you guys ever this. But there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of crap on Twitter about how the team doesn't care,
Speaker 1: the team doesn't try very hard and all that, and
Speaker 1: I think performances like this show no, these guys care
Speaker 1: more than any fan out there. They are prideful, they
Speaker 1: they're there to win. They worked their butts off all
Speaker 1: year for the chance to compete in these games, and
Speaker 1: they clearly responded. Well, it's the sign of a well
Speaker 1: coached team to come out after getting humbled in the
Speaker 1: game that you were supposed to win and play really well.
Speaker 1: They played like a pissed off team. That's what Bill
Speaker 1: Sell said after the game, and he was right. There
Speaker 1: was a lot of pride. He said, not only did
Speaker 1: I think that we played angry, but I think we
Speaker 1: acted like we were embarrassed last time. And that's good.
Speaker 1: It's good that they were embarrassed by losing a home game,
Speaker 1: and clearly they rectified the situation by bouncing back in
Speaker 1: as well of a way as you can. The whole
Speaker 1: UCF thing is interesting because you know who really loved
Speaker 1: this game, Ken Pom. Kansas went up five spots on
Speaker 1: Ken Palm, and UCF dropped more than fifteen UCF was
Speaker 1: sixty first whenever the day began, and they're now barely
Speaker 1: in the top eighty, I think like they fell a lot.
Speaker 1: So ken palm is normally a pretty good indicator and
Speaker 1: determining about how good a team is. Sometimes we argue, oh,
Speaker 1: they have Kansas at six and they should be higher,
Speaker 1: but overall they're pretty close. Well, UCF was sixty four
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the day, Missouri is fifty three,
Speaker 1: Creighton is forty nine. So whenever we get on here
Speaker 1: and I guess West Virginia who's gone up quite a bit,
Speaker 1: they're up to thirty six. So before we get on
Speaker 1: here and talk about how bad UCF is, and yes,
Speaker 1: that was a terrible game. If these two teams played
Speaker 1: fifty more times, they probably would not have a single
Speaker 1: game that was decided by fifty points like this one was.
Speaker 1: But before we talk about how bad UCF is, they're
Speaker 1: about ten to fifteen spots worse at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the day than Missouri now about twenty five thirty spots worse.
Speaker 1: They're they're a little bit worse than teams that Kansas
Speaker 1: has lost to already this year. So I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair to act like they beat freaking central Eastern
Speaker 1: Midwestern Washington or something like they beat a power five
Speaker 1: team by fifty on the road. Clearly got them on
Speaker 1: their worst day when they had their best. I think
Speaker 1: what we love learned is that this team does have
Speaker 1: a lot of pride, and I think that this team
Speaker 1: did something land and you kind of threw this back
Speaker 1: at me. I'm curious what you meant by this. I said,
Speaker 1: after that kind of performance, we can forever put to bed.
Speaker 1: This year's team is just like last year's team. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the scores are gonna look like at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: record or the round of thirty two game. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that's gonna go. But I do know that
Speaker 1: last year's team was not capable of bouncing back and
Speaker 1: beating somebody on the conference on the road by fifty points.
Speaker 3: That is true. I mean, that was evidence just simply
Speaker 3: by that team being really bad on the road. I
Speaker 3: don't know that it puts to bed the comparisons or anything. Certainly,
Speaker 3: this is a better performance, especially on the road, than
Speaker 3: anything last year's team had.
Speaker 2: I still don't I still have a lot of.
Speaker 3: The concerns even from a really good game. So I
Speaker 3: don't know. I definitely get where you're coming from, and
Speaker 3: I think, like, if we're really trying to like split
Speaker 3: hairs of who is the most correct, I think you
Speaker 3: are correct that, like on a technical level, that probably
Speaker 3: does put to bed the very specific comparisons between those teams,
Speaker 3: But that doesn't This game does not inherently bury my
Speaker 3: concerns yet. Yes, hey they won a road game. I
Speaker 3: said on the last show, win a game on the road,
Speaker 3: and then I'll pick you to win on the road.
Speaker 3: And hey, they did it, and they did it emphatically.
Speaker 3: In credit to them, they were the end, they were
Speaker 3: obviously very good. So from that perspective, yes, I think
Speaker 3: you're right, but I still hold the concerns. I need
Speaker 3: to see it play out over time.
Speaker 1: Well, and Cam, I guess what I'm curious about too.
Speaker 1: You've been You've been hot and cold at times on
Speaker 1: this team, especially over the last few weeks, which who
Speaker 1: hasn't been. But yeah, I think what Landon said is right.
Speaker 1: Like it that does not mean that this team can't
Speaker 1: ultimately have the same fate that last years does. But
Speaker 1: I think performances like today show that this team is
Speaker 1: better than last year's. Last year's team won two road
Speaker 1: games all year, and they were against two horrendous Oklahoma schools,
Speaker 1: and both of those games, I guess Oklahoma State they
Speaker 1: stepped on from the start, but Oklahoma was in doubt
Speaker 1: for a while. We've been dying to see the team
Speaker 1: get off to a good start and really pop somebody
Speaker 1: on the road and have it not really be in
Speaker 1: question down the stretch, and that's what they did. What
Speaker 1: side of the coin do you fall onto performances like
Speaker 1: this show, Okay, this team may not be the best
Speaker 1: college team we've ever seen, but there's at least potential
Speaker 1: for them to do things and reach heights that last
Speaker 1: year's team didn't. Or do you lean more towards the
Speaker 1: side of this really should just kind of be thrown
Speaker 1: in the trash to a certain extent, because, k you
Speaker 1: play their best game, you see have played their worst,
Speaker 1: and you take the win, put it in your pocket.
Speaker 1: But the season ultimately isn't going to be measured by
Speaker 1: how many points you beat Central Florida By.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: the biggest thing that you can take away from this
Speaker 2: game is that this team has pieces to where if
Speaker 2: they're used correctly, they can be elite. That being said,
Speaker 2: we've seen them when they get in bad matchup situations.
Speaker 2: We've seen them struggle. I think that in terms of
Speaker 2: the difference between this year and last year, I mean,
Speaker 2: it flat out comes down to roster construction. Last year
Speaker 2: we were relying on hoping that Nick Timberlake could save
Speaker 2: this team, which is a horrifying statement. This year, you
Speaker 2: have Rylan Griffin on the bench, You have aj Store
Speaker 2: on the bench. I don't believe they should be on
Speaker 2: the bench, but they are. You even have a guy
Speaker 2: like David Koyit. They have pieces that can make it work,
Speaker 2: and I think that if they all click at the
Speaker 2: right time, they can make a deep run. That being said,
Speaker 2: I'm a little hesitant to say that everything is fixed
Speaker 2: because I think that, again, this was a great matchup
Speaker 2: for Kansas. UCF isn't a cakewalk. They just beat Texas Tech.
Speaker 2: But that being said, again it was an awesome matchup
Speaker 2: for Kansas. Hunter Dickinson had a field day, and overall,
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, I do think this team is better
Speaker 2: than last year, but there are so many similarities between
Speaker 2: the two teams regardless.
Speaker 1: Well, let's look at some of the stats here, because
Speaker 1: I thought that I think there are a lot of
Speaker 1: interesting ones, if not just flat out fun ones. It
Speaker 1: is the biggest road win by points margin in the
Speaker 1: history of the Big Twelve when it comes to conference games.
Speaker 1: Never before has a team gone on the road and
Speaker 1: beaten another team in league play by fifty points. Kansas
Speaker 1: is the first. It's the most points Kansas has scored
Speaker 1: in a road conference game in the Bill Self era.
Speaker 1: It's KU's first conference road win outside of the state
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma since February twenty twenty three, when they were
Speaker 1: still the defending national champions, and also for the first
Speaker 1: time in justice for the twenty fourteen Jayhawks, Bill Self
Speaker 1: beats Johnny Dawkins.
Speaker 2: Reels self without these bils to myself, Yeah, Johnny, Bill,
Speaker 2: We're proud of you.
Speaker 3: Take that decade ago Jayhawks that I watched.
Speaker 2: What is time?
Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins is thirty now? Dude thirty, so said, I
Speaker 1: don't love it. No, Well, just wait till you see
Speaker 1: who turns thirty here in a few weeks. It's definitely
Speaker 1: not somebody on this podcast, I assure you.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say it was kJ Adams
Speaker 2: because he's been here for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: No, but it is is almost Hunter Nigginson, who they
Speaker 1: did talk about on the on the broadcast, they were like,
Speaker 1: he's jumping against somebody who Hunter Digginson was in second
Speaker 1: grade when UCF center was born, twenty four years old,
Speaker 1: and he's scored just the that many points in the
Speaker 1: first half. Cam tell me about the guy who I
Speaker 1: ironically I did not get very many negative Twitter mentions
Speaker 1: about him today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard. It's hard to get a
Speaker 2: lot of negative Twitter interactions when he's playing like prime
Speaker 2: Wilt Chamberlain. He had twenty one first half points, really
Speaker 2: wasn't needed to do much after that. For about twenty
Speaker 2: five minutes he was flirting with outscoring UCF by himself.
Speaker 2: He finished with twenty seven points on twelve for seventeen shooting,
Speaker 2: plus nine rebounds and three blocks in just twenty three minutes.
Speaker 2: That is an insane for forty performance and honestly, he
Speaker 2: wasn't even Kansas's most impressive center, which I think we
Speaker 2: need to burn the tapes and make sure they don't
Speaker 2: get in the hands of NBA executives.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing. And Landon, I'll go right to
Speaker 1: you with the Flori Badunga talk, because I don't know.
Speaker 1: Hunter was probably their best player. He scored. He scored
Speaker 1: twenty seven points and could have easy could have easily
Speaker 1: had forty plus if they had wanted to keep giving
Speaker 1: it the ball. But I think it was at TJF
Speaker 1: Sports on Twitter, who is one of the most who
Speaker 1: who's a pretty prominent Twitter out among the local sports here,
Speaker 1: and he said, I've never seen a basketball player go
Speaker 1: from absolutely dominant to almost a liability depending on the
Speaker 1: matchup like Hunter Dickinson. And it's true, there are games
Speaker 1: wherever he is a complete disaster, like the first half
Speaker 1: of the West Virginia game, and then he goes out
Speaker 1: there and scores twenty one in the first half against
Speaker 1: Central Florida, and it's hard to believe that it's the
Speaker 1: same player. But good Hunter Dickinson is really, really, really good,
Speaker 1: and he had one of those Big twelve Player of
Speaker 1: the Year caliber games. Here. Now about Kansas's potentially their
Speaker 1: best center certainly projects to be their best center at
Speaker 1: the next level, land And tell me about Flori Badonga.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what a performance from him twelve points,
Speaker 3: five rebounds, six blocks on a cross court assist in
Speaker 3: twenty one minutes, going six for eight from the floor,
Speaker 3: and then the play the season for Kansas to this point,
Speaker 3: arguably the highlight, real player of the year for them,
Speaker 3: certainly insane. Locke goes coast to coast point center Flori Badunga,
Speaker 3: hits a little euro and dunks in the moment where
Speaker 3: we're all like, oh yeah, oh yeah, this guy's going
Speaker 3: to the pros. This guy's an NBA player, Like what
Speaker 3: are we watching? Like that was? That was some psycho stuff,
Speaker 3: Like that's if if Doak was capable in the open floor.
Speaker 2: Uh kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Unreal, really unreal. Combined, he and Digotson lit up UCF
Speaker 3: for thirty nine points, fourteen boards, nine blocks in a
Speaker 3: total of forty four minutes. That is uh post dominance
Speaker 3: that is playing inside the paint.
Speaker 1: Oh I like it, I need, I need it, like it,
Speaker 1: I need to dress just a bell like I need.
Speaker 1: I need. I need a noise that I can push
Speaker 1: every time somebody says the words inside on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll just do that, Cam, I'll give it to
Speaker 1: you for the Floria analysis. But there was He's not
Speaker 1: I'm not calling him Joel Embiid, but I remember a
Speaker 1: pinpoint moment in Joel Embiid's freshman season when he hit
Speaker 1: New Mexico at the Sprint Center with a dream shake move,
Speaker 1: and that was the moment when we realized, oh, yoh, NBA.
Speaker 1: You know the squidward pointing meme NBA. That's kind of
Speaker 1: the same moment I had with Florid. But Doonga's move today, Like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this is probably your only year of him in college.
Speaker 2: Yeah, light bulb moment. He's pretty He's going to be
Speaker 2: really good. Also, shout out to former president Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2: He made it through World War two hawk two, but
Speaker 2: never saw an Embiid conference finals in the NBA r
Speaker 2: P Florida Badounga looks unbelieved.
Speaker 3: That's real. That's really more of a joe El Embiid
Speaker 3: stat than a Jimmy Carter's stat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Jimmy Carter, Jimmy, he never saw a K
Speaker 2: state national title.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many ways you get broad with that.
Speaker 2: He never saw a K state national title. He never
Speaker 2: saw an Embiid conference final. There's a lot.
Speaker 1: How many Lions Super Bowls did he see?
Speaker 3: Cam?
Speaker 1: How many of them?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so he saw zero, but yeah, sad, sad loss.
Speaker 2: But he saw something in nineteen fifty seven, which was
Speaker 2: their last. Uh kind of I'll win. I think that
Speaker 2: is true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever he was whenever he was right eighty six
Speaker 1: years old there in the year of Our Lord nineteen
Speaker 1: fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Dude, can you can you imagine if you get to
Speaker 2: the point where you're so old when you're like, dude,
Speaker 2: fifty years ago when I was fifty, I remember I
Speaker 2: saw talk to a girl Like that's such a crazy statement. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if fifty years ago I was old.
Speaker 1: If Landon lives to be one hundred years old, then
Speaker 1: he will be referring to fifty years ago as the
Speaker 1: year of our Lord twenty fifty, which is saggering land
Speaker 1: And you gotta make it. You You probably are the
Speaker 1: only one of the three of us that has a
Speaker 1: chance of getting yes one.
Speaker 3: So you know there's no that's true. We'll all be
Speaker 3: so dead by then. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tat to a DNR. I'm gonna tattoo
Speaker 2: a DNR like do not resuscitate on my chest because
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any saving me from whatever fate
Speaker 2: I'm heading towards. But thirty we have to bring him back.
Speaker 1: You make me ten legs sports parlays of all the
Speaker 1: college basketball conference winners.
Speaker 2: You know what now that we're now that we're just
Speaker 2: going completely off the rails, I'm just going to give you,
Speaker 2: guys your random fact of the week. Did you guys
Speaker 2: know that there was a Great War War the Bird
Speaker 2: like commerc they lost.
Speaker 3: The Australians lost the EU War.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost to the EMUs and the Australians had guns,
Speaker 2: like they kind of they saw it like, how is that?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 2: How is that possible?
Speaker 3: They were an actual army with guns and they lost
Speaker 3: to a flock of birds, A very large flock of
Speaker 3: birds admittedly, but nonetheless.
Speaker 1: When was this when.
Speaker 2: Like nineteen thirty two?
Speaker 1: Wow, and they haven't documented. I get you. You cannot
Speaker 1: try to sneak a look at cam getting up there
Speaker 1: trying to sneak a fastball past prime berry bonds. When
Speaker 1: it comes to Australian facts, expert landing fields over here.
Speaker 2: I've got one more in the tank if needed. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I know it's pretty wild. I just can't imagine, like
Speaker 2: you bring your finest soldiers out and you're like, dude,
Speaker 2: we just can't get the birds. Like it's just it's
Speaker 2: a shot in the faces.
Speaker 1: Are mean ostriches? Which ones are mean?
Speaker 2: I think it's the EMUs, but that the commercial with
Speaker 2: the that's Doug is pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the commercial makes them most nice.
Speaker 2: Fine, Yeah, he's fine.
Speaker 1: And are is the one who have like eggs the
Speaker 1: size of like football is like, they're huge.
Speaker 3: I think both as have very large eggs.
Speaker 1: What's the difference, well, they like what is the difference?
Speaker 1: Is an ostrich fluffier or how do we know this?
Speaker 3: I think they live in different parts of the world. Yes, African?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ostrich emu difference. Google says EMUs and ostriches are
Speaker 1: both flightless birds, however, they have many differences. Ostriches are
Speaker 1: nine feet tall, EMUs are typically smaller. Ostriches have two
Speaker 1: toes on each foot. Em Us have three. Ostriches have
Speaker 1: much have much bigger wings. Yes, Google, AI, isn't that
Speaker 1: your favorite landing? And ostrich is one of my favorite bigger?
Speaker 1: You are correct, though, next yep and uh? And also
Speaker 1: ostriches like uh like uh like big big groups. Hence
Speaker 1: why why they would have done just as well as
Speaker 1: the emu's if that.
Speaker 2: Was a war. I just like the idea of an
Speaker 2: EMU like in tactical gear with like a fifty caliber
Speaker 2: sniper rifled as.
Speaker 1: Wid well you know who definitely could have used that
Speaker 1: tactical gear and some sniper rifles. That was UCF today,
Speaker 1: because holy crap, they were just dreadful. Here are your
Speaker 1: stats for the UCF may as well have been the uh,
Speaker 1: the the the Ostriches, or the emu's opponents rather because
Speaker 1: they got run over here twenty one percent from the floor,
Speaker 1: fourteen field goals versus fourteen turnovers. As Landon tells you
Speaker 1: all the time, it's not a week in the Big
Speaker 1: twelve without somebody having as many turnovers as baskets twenty
Speaker 1: three percent from three and oh so worse eighteen percent
Speaker 1: on Tues and their biggest scoring run four four to nothing.
Speaker 1: That is really hard to do. It is very hard
Speaker 1: to play a basketball game that goes on for forty
Speaker 1: minutes and your longest or largest rather scoring run is
Speaker 1: for nothing.
Speaker 3: That was indicative of the night for ECS and.
Speaker 1: Johnny dak is this lost the Bill self, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad he's sad because I was sad as an eighteen
Speaker 1: year old when his Stanford team that didn't make a
Speaker 1: single three ended the career of Andrew Wiggins one week before.
Speaker 1: I swear Joel's coming back on Wednesday if they just
Speaker 1: make the next round, guys, I promise.
Speaker 3: I thought he was coming back to school.
Speaker 2: Conter Freeing, Yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: He really wanted to and he did say, by the way,
Speaker 1: and I have a couple of k books for fans.
Speaker 1: He did, as oh, man, I wish I had that
Speaker 1: on the board. I would so push it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Joela Beid has gone on record and said that he
Speaker 1: wanted to come back to Kansas and his his family
Speaker 1: and Bill self would not let him. They basically he said,
Speaker 1: I'm Joelle Embiid said as a nineteen year old kid.
Speaker 1: He was in tears and and just completely completely Uh
Speaker 1: what's the word. Whenever you're you are you are really
Speaker 1: distrut yes, thank you good lord, really distraught and said
Speaker 1: I am not leaving Kansas and his family and Bill
Speaker 1: self said yes you are. And eventually he got over it,
Speaker 1: and now he's very rich and kind of fat and,
Speaker 1: as camp said, Eastern Conference final less yeah, letting down.
Speaker 2: Specifically speak Carter. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 1: Was Jimmy Carter a sports guy? He's from Georgia. Was
Speaker 1: he a Falcons fan?
Speaker 3: He was not a not a not a Sixers fan.
Speaker 1: Let's see Jimmy Carter favorite sports teams. A lifelong fan
Speaker 1: of the Atlanta Braves. Well, they've only lost about three
Speaker 1: hundred playoff games in his lifetime. Then I feel like
Speaker 1: they're always losing playoff series. He was in attendance when
Speaker 1: Hank Aaron broke Babe Roots major League Baseball home run
Speaker 1: record in nineteen seventy four, when Jimmy Carter was what
Speaker 1: else but fifty years old halfway through his life.
Speaker 2: Excess, That's what I'm saying, dude, there you go, Campin.
Speaker 2: It's a point where I'm like, fifty years ago, fifty
Speaker 2: years ago, I watched Bill soft coaches last game, and
Speaker 2: then Kansas is getting obliterated by like UCF and twenty
Speaker 2: eighty four. Just shoot me.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, I even have the tools on
Speaker 1: this show, but I may not have to do it
Speaker 1: because you live in Chicago where reigns Supreme and somebody
Speaker 1: else do the job.
Speaker 2: Do that anytime, all right, I'll just say a couple
Speaker 2: of words.
Speaker 1: You'll be fine, Land and tell me about Well your
Speaker 1: favorite their group together forever, we'll call him the Nothing brothers,
Speaker 1: Ryland Griffin and Aj Store.
Speaker 3: Well, one was good. One played garbage time. Ryland Griffin
Speaker 3: actually finished with k's second leading score, going four for
Speaker 3: four from three for fourteen points in eighteen minutes. Really nice,
Speaker 3: really nice for Roland Griffin. AJ Storr did have good
Speaker 3: numbers two for you fair He was good. Granted most
Speaker 3: of it did come in garbage time because he didn't
Speaker 3: get on the floor ntil there were six minutes left
Speaker 3: in the first half. By then it was already garbage time.
Speaker 3: He did finish with eleven and five in just fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: Bill self said after the last game he saw quote,
Speaker 3: nothing from those guys. He did not say that this time. Cam,
Speaker 3: What did you see from Griffin and Store?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it was really nice to see Rolan
Speaker 2: Griffin playing again. Part of those two I think had
Speaker 2: excuse me. I had to do with the fact the
Speaker 2: game was so high tempo. It was nice see Rollan Griffin.
Speaker 2: It looked like he was comfortable out there. It's good
Speaker 2: to see the wall go through the hoop for aj
Speaker 2: Storre he I didn't think he was gonna play whatsoever.
Speaker 2: I think that Bill self banished him to Siberia and
Speaker 2: then decided to fly him back into the game, which
Speaker 2: was great. I'm curious for you guys thoughts on aj
Speaker 2: Store Do you think that this is an indicative of
Speaker 2: anything for him, like going forward? Or is this more
Speaker 2: or less just garbage time points?
Speaker 1: Then thinks he's worse than Mitch Lightfoot, so I can
Speaker 1: answer that is insanity on behalf of the.
Speaker 3: Way that that might be an opinion that I think
Speaker 3: could be true. But I didn't say that.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Mitch Lightfoot scored like forty four points in
Speaker 2: Japan in Japan, like wow, I saw that.
Speaker 1: I did see that. Yeah, Cam sent us a thing
Speaker 1: in the in the group chat, and I was too
Speaker 1: startled to even know what to say. Mitch Lightfoot hung
Speaker 1: forty on the Japanese over there, which is not a
Speaker 1: sentence I ever thought I would say, much like I
Speaker 1: didn't think i'd say Jimmy Carter has never seen uh
Speaker 1: never seen Joe Lewis play in the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my thoughts on a My thoughts is that Rylan Griffin
Speaker 1: has been good most at many points of this year
Speaker 1: and should play more. He needs to be getting starterworthy minutes.
Speaker 1: He should definitely be the top six or seven guys
Speaker 1: that get minutes. And AJ Store is a wild card.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas can do a whole lot without
Speaker 1: aj Store being at least decent ten points a game.
Speaker 1: But also, like he's he might just be a bonus
Speaker 1: it him if you can get your if you can
Speaker 1: get quite a quality level going without him Land and
Speaker 1: you still have no confidence in AJ Store, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: but I mean you'll take anything you can get. And
Speaker 1: if you still think this team can be solid without him,
Speaker 1: then whenever he gives you double digit points, you think
Speaker 1: that probably is gonna be a win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I never said its
Speaker 3: age Store is talentless by any stretch. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: take eleven and five against UCF in a game they
Speaker 3: won by fifty as a rousing endorsement that he is back.
Speaker 3: I hope it gets him going, and the team would
Speaker 3: one million percent be way way better if he is.
Speaker 3: But we'll see, we'll see. I'll need to see a
Speaker 3: more complete performance, I think in a better game. Rylan
Speaker 3: Griffin fully agree. I think he needs to be out
Speaker 3: there a lot. I think he needs to play more.
Speaker 3: I think similarly to some of these guys, you see
Speaker 3: the NBA level potential. Not saying he's gonna be like
Speaker 3: an instant NBA guy, but like it's there. You can
Speaker 3: see it going four for four really nice. He's athletic,
Speaker 3: he can shoot like he is a guy I think
Speaker 3: that can very easily raise your ceiling. Maybe he's not
Speaker 3: going to shoot the like forty two percent we thought
Speaker 3: he was going to. That's okay if he even shoots
Speaker 3: an ok percentage, but gives you a legitimate guy that
Speaker 3: can stand on the perimeter and actually be a threat
Speaker 3: from there for the defense. Unlike a couple guys on
Speaker 3: this team. That's a huge step in the right direction.
Speaker 3: He is guy that can give you that.
Speaker 1: kJ Adams bounced back from a horrendous West Virginia game
Speaker 1: with a quality performance here. He was active from the
Speaker 1: jump log seven points and nine rebounds plus three assists
Speaker 1: and two very athletic blocks in twenty four minutes. Would
Speaker 1: surprise you if I told you that he led all
Speaker 1: Jayhawks in minutes because he did. He was three for
Speaker 1: six from the floor. Is this is this a Kansas
Speaker 1: wins in spite of kJ game? I don't think it is.
Speaker 1: I don't think any of us believe that he doesn't
Speaker 1: have any value, and this game, Hi self was able
Speaker 1: to switch around rotations enough where it didn't feel like
Speaker 1: we were just just being served an endless portion of kJ.
Speaker 1: We've said that he has value on this team, and
Speaker 1: he does present a skill set that is unique. Whenever
Speaker 1: he's not asked to be a primary scoring option and
Speaker 1: Kansas is actually getting some stuff from other pieces like
Speaker 1: Griffin and Store, then I think Kj's value is maximized.
Speaker 1: I thought he played well. He clearly was was dying
Speaker 1: to get back on the court and have a performance
Speaker 1: after having probably the worst one of his career. And
Speaker 1: I thought he played well. Good for him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought he played pretty well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good for kJ. He needed that.
Speaker 1: Did it hurt Kansas? Did it actually hurt? At this point?
Speaker 1: This is a this is a Galaxy brain take. I
Speaker 1: don't believe this is the case. But should Kansas fans
Speaker 1: be rooting for kJ? Should just be awful to the
Speaker 1: point where Self then stops the fact that it's not.
Speaker 1: No is a lot.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's such dangerous.
Speaker 3: I do think you saw a little bit of self
Speaker 3: adjusting a little in this game. I think it's tell
Speaker 3: that like Zeke Mayo played primary point guard most of
Speaker 3: the night, a lot of the night.
Speaker 2: Ye that's yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3: This game was played at three o'clock Central Time on
Speaker 3: a Sunday, that night game.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's basically night.
Speaker 1: I just okay, we keep going on the kJ train,
Speaker 1: go for it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just gonna say, no, we don't want to
Speaker 2: see kJ Adams fail, but we want to see him
Speaker 2: play spectacularly mediocre to the point where it makes Bill
Speaker 2: think maybe there's a chance this isn't working well, and
Speaker 2: that politician, I don't think.
Speaker 3: And as we have said repeatedly, or at least something
Speaker 3: to the effect repeatedly, that I do think this team
Speaker 3: is best if kJ Adams is playing a reserve role. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think that true.
Speaker 1: And he played the most better game. So someone checks out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening.
Speaker 2: For at least everyone to shelters.
Speaker 1: But they did make a starting lineup change, and that
Speaker 1: was Shack Moore getting the start leaving us all scratching
Speaker 1: our heads. I think that he wound up getting the
Speaker 1: start because UCF relies a lot on three pointers and
Speaker 1: they didn't make very many of them in this game.
Speaker 1: But clearly self believe is that Shack Moore is a
Speaker 1: very good defensive perimeter defender, and I guess defensive perimeter
Speaker 1: defender is kind of redundant. They're a good, a quality
Speaker 1: perimeter defender. How about that?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, we just went right for it.
Speaker 2: Damn it.
Speaker 1: That's okay, that's funny. I'll tell you get one of
Speaker 1: many many candidates Jimmy Carter saw lose in his presidential lifetime,
Speaker 1: including Joel Embiid. He lost a lot of Eastern Conference
Speaker 1: semi finals. So shackmore six points and six assists in
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. He shot two threes, he made them both.
Speaker 1: That's great. Zeke Mayo added six points and eight assists
Speaker 1: plus five rebounds and twenty four minutes. Landon mentioned he
Speaker 1: got a lot of the primary point guard minutes. He
Speaker 1: made just three baskets an zero four from three, but
Speaker 1: he played the point guard position extremely well. He basically
Speaker 1: made a ton of effort just throwing injury pass after
Speaker 1: entry passed to a big guy of his choosing that
Speaker 1: then got a lay up or in Flora's case of
Speaker 1: dunk and Hunter's case of layup. I thought they all
Speaker 1: played pretty well. It was interesting to see, uh, to
Speaker 1: see Zeke Mayo get primary point guard, but itself had
Speaker 1: three point guards out there quite a bit. That's edjust thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's what people are dying or
Speaker 1: clamoring to see, but it is something I liked it.
Speaker 3: I liked the switch up. I mean it's a little
Speaker 3: bit like semantic seed because Harris was still out there,
Speaker 3: even though you kind of have to because he is
Speaker 3: still pretty decent. Still baffling that UCF just watched Kansas
Speaker 3: get completely shut down by a very specific kind of
Speaker 3: defense and just refused.
Speaker 2: To play that.
Speaker 3: But then less, I thought Shackmore looked pretty good. He
Speaker 3: played a solid game. Zeke Mayo was Zeke Mayo. Even
Speaker 3: if it was only for six points, he still played
Speaker 3: really well. I think there's a ton of analyze there.
Speaker 3: But do we think Moore is gonna have a really
Speaker 3: expanded role on the team.
Speaker 1: We did at the start of the year, we thought
Speaker 1: he was going to be the backup point guard because
Speaker 1: we thought Zeke Maya would play off the ball, and
Speaker 1: certainly none of us saw these confusing rotation changes at
Speaker 1: that point. David koit wasn't on the roster either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that it's you know, we wondered if he
Speaker 1: would be redshirting a couple of weeks ago, but he's
Speaker 1: a quality defender in Kansas is going to be I
Speaker 1: think if they're going to be good, they're going to
Speaker 1: be a team that has a lot more emphasis on
Speaker 1: defensive identity. I know that's not our favorite on the show,
Speaker 1: but I think that's Bill Sell's favorite, and we'll see.
Speaker 1: Do you think Shaq Moore is starting because Bill self
Speaker 1: thinks Shack Moore is a top five option to start,
Speaker 1: or do you think Shack Moore is starting because Self
Speaker 1: is trying to fire up somebody else.
Speaker 2: That's a great question.
Speaker 3: I think Shackmore started this game because Bill self watched
Speaker 3: the last few games and felt very comfortable taking people out.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was necessarily for something super
Speaker 3: super specific as far as like making people angry or
Speaker 3: or making a point, but I think no one in
Speaker 3: that spot had inspired him certainly, and I think he
Speaker 3: was very comfortable putting people on the bench.
Speaker 1: That's eight different guys that have started for Kansas now
Speaker 1: this year. Right, you got the four that have started
Speaker 1: every game, and then you have Griffin, Store, Quoit and Shack.
Speaker 1: Those guys have all rotated for that fifth spot. So
Speaker 1: they're clearly pushing a lot of buttons. Can't wait to
Speaker 1: see Zach Clements eventually start a game at some point
Speaker 1: other players. Dawan Harris had eleven six and two and
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes. The six was the rebounds, not assist.
Speaker 2: By the way.
Speaker 1: He took thirteen shots and made five of them. Not
Speaker 1: always the best strategy to have him be second on
Speaker 1: the team in shots, but in a game they won
Speaker 1: by fifty, we're not going to complain about it. Dylan
Speaker 1: will Hite got a bucket late, sneaking the walk Ons
Speaker 1: closer to the over on the prop. David Quite was
Speaker 1: one for eight from the floor. I refuse to call
Speaker 1: him Digey. I don't care how many times that that
Speaker 1: idiot Brian Hainey says that I'm not doing it. He
Speaker 1: was one for eight from the floor, but the make
Speaker 1: was worth three points and Ricky's Pasmore got some Cardio
Speaker 1: missed a dunk and whatnot at the end, yay, that's
Speaker 1: everything else.
Speaker 3: Should we just do final numbers? Final numbers time?
Speaker 1: Any we don't normally. This is where I'd ask you
Speaker 1: for your closing thoughts or your takeaways, but I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you can really have much. They played by fifty
Speaker 1: are They won by fifty so they obviously played well
Speaker 1: and their opponent did not exactly.
Speaker 3: That's pretty much what I was gonna say. Kansas real
Speaker 3: good against UCF. I think it remains to be seen
Speaker 3: if that will continue. I like we were saying earlier
Speaker 3: with Hunter Dickinson, I think we brushed by it. We've
Speaker 3: said it before, so it's not a huge deal. But
Speaker 3: I think Hunter Dickinson specifically and potentially Kansas very very
Speaker 3: matchup dependent. This was a great match up for them,
Speaker 3: and they rolled. If and when they are posed with
Speaker 3: different matchups. I still think it remains to be seen.
Speaker 3: But beating anyone by fifty plus is extraly impressive.
Speaker 1: Imagine being told before last season started that in Kansas's
Speaker 1: first two trips to Orlando they would be plus forty six,
Speaker 1: and the aggregate you'd be like, yeah, that's about right.
Speaker 1: Two wins by twenty points, right, that's what you said.
Speaker 2: Be like, Yeah, they definitely weren't up by a lot
Speaker 2: in one of those games and then got pooped down
Speaker 2: in the face, and then the other game just pooped
Speaker 2: down the face of the other team.
Speaker 1: And as as we all talked about in the group chat,
Speaker 1: they led by the exact same score. They led thirty
Speaker 1: five to nineteen through sixteen minutes, which is the exact
Speaker 1: score it was last year when UCF cut it to
Speaker 1: eight at half and then we know what happened the
Speaker 1: rest of the way. Not so much today, cam any
Speaker 1: closing thoughts, Kansas gets a road win. It's their first
Speaker 1: one since last February, and it's got to feel pretty
Speaker 1: good to see him semb one and one whenever zero
Speaker 1: to two was on the was on the possibilities list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just like to point out that lane
Speaker 2: and pick Kansas to lose this game.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that good thing.
Speaker 2: You brought that up. Yeah, oh yeah, to make sure
Speaker 2: that was talking about and that was honestly, like, in
Speaker 2: the scope of things, I understand why Landon picked that,
Speaker 2: but no.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no no, cam Yea, you went
Speaker 1: too far. You can't understand that. There was no no
Speaker 1: reason whatsoever, Why should have been picked to lose against
Speaker 1: the freaking UCF. No, that was that wasn't Landed.
Speaker 2: For a second, I'm not afraid to admit it.
Speaker 1: Landon also, Cam is more hot and cold. Landon is
Speaker 1: supposed to be the sturdy, consistent presence here.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: And and Landon has in the past pick Kansas to
Speaker 1: win games he thinks or lose games that he thinks
Speaker 1: they're going to win, simply because to prove a point, Landon,
Speaker 1: you actually did you actually gun your head? Would you
Speaker 1: have chosen UCF to win this game?
Speaker 2: Mostly?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Quite In all honesty, I I did mostly think
Speaker 3: that there was a little bit of this I'm selling
Speaker 3: the farm show, so I'm gonna just pick them to
Speaker 3: lose as well. But like mostly yeah, I definitely lean
Speaker 3: toward I thought this would at least be a real game,
Speaker 3: and I then strong.
Speaker 1: I write detailed enough game previews where I said Hunter
Speaker 1: Dickinson should have his way inside. That goes to show
Speaker 1: that maybe you'll put in some stock into that.
Speaker 2: Whenever you sound so pop isaac'sy, whenever you.
Speaker 1: Make giant bets on UCF to beat Kansas, that you're
Speaker 1: now having to pick up some shifts to work off right, like,
Speaker 1: how much? How many? How many figures did you lose
Speaker 1: betting this game.
Speaker 2: I actually picked Kansas, believe it or not, you always
Speaker 2: pick Kansas.
Speaker 1: They could play the Harlem Globetrotters and you'd lay some
Speaker 1: bucks on the Jayhawks.
Speaker 2: No, they could play the Washington Generals, and I convinced
Speaker 2: myself that the Generals were due.
Speaker 1: Well, something that I try to convince you out of
Speaker 1: was picking the result and the other Big twelve team
Speaker 1: that resides in Kansas, So let's go ahead and blow
Speaker 1: the air on me. We talk about them, because I
Speaker 1: told you they were not gonna win in Fort Worth
Speaker 1: Big Twelve games. You know, if there's something that got
Speaker 1: me through my weekend, it was that I knew at
Speaker 1: the end of it that I would get to talk
Speaker 1: about these seven other Big twelve basketball games. They are
Speaker 1: so exciting and so full of joy. Well maybe they
Speaker 1: would be if I was a fan of the Cyclones.
Speaker 1: Number three Iowa State seventy four, Number twenty five Baylor
Speaker 1: fifty five. Not even close. The Cyclones continue to rip
Speaker 1: through their opponents, both keishn Gilbert and eternal Kansas pain
Speaker 1: in the ass Milan Mamsilievich had double doubles. I was
Speaker 1: watching this game. It's the first Iowa State game I've
Speaker 1: watched and I've had on the TV this year, and
Speaker 1: I saw Milan Mamsilyevich pop up, and I thought, Oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, how is he still in college? He looks
Speaker 1: like a giant bird. He looks like a bird in
Speaker 1: one of the Ice Age movies. And he's still there
Speaker 1: soon to make threes against the Jayhawks because he made
Speaker 1: them against Baylor, who didn't even get to thirty percent
Speaker 1: from the flor Are the Bears fraudulent.
Speaker 3: And they're certainly not what we thought?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think they still.
Speaker 1: I think they're pretty fraudile.
Speaker 3: I think they still graded out as arguably a top
Speaker 3: half of the league team because this league might suck,
Speaker 3: but they're not an actual contender.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, they're not very good.
Speaker 1: They are twenty second. They're twenty second. And Ken Palm
Speaker 1: which has Houston at three, Iowa State at five, Kansas
Speaker 1: at eight, surprising Texas Tech they have at fourteen and
Speaker 1: then Baylor at twenty two, so they have Baylor as
Speaker 1: a top five Big twelve team, But Baylor has played
Speaker 1: five teams this year with a pulse, and they have
Speaker 1: lost four of them, most of which have been an
Speaker 1: insane blowout fashion. They got absolutely smashed by Gonzaga, they
Speaker 1: got absolutely smashed by Tennessee. They weren't really that competitive
Speaker 1: at Yukon against a shorthanded Huskies team. They did beat
Speaker 1: Arkansas and then they lost Iowa State by almost twenty
Speaker 1: like certainly not what you're looking and for. Usually Scott
Speaker 1: Drew teams are a little better than this. Uh, but
Speaker 1: you know, they'll probably still be b YU because b
Speaker 1: YU is bad. Number fourteen Houston eighty six b YU
Speaker 1: fifty five Landon b YU is not nearly as good
Speaker 1: as last year. But oh, I'm sure that trip to
Speaker 1: Pro Bow will go well for the Jayhawks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm with you there, Ryan, I think that's
Speaker 3: gonna go Uh well, you know, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 3: But knowing how Kansas usually handles games like that, it's
Speaker 3: gonna go bad. Uh, It's gonna be really bad against
Speaker 3: Houston because Emmanuel Sharp is good.
Speaker 1: He's four points for the Red Cougars.
Speaker 3: The Blue Cougars only made eight threes in this game,
Speaker 3: so it's never actually that interesting BYU's threes. However, very
Speaker 3: interestingly were made by players named Richie Cannon with a K,
Speaker 3: Dallen Mihailo, and Trevin Ah Dallen.
Speaker 2: That's the one.
Speaker 1: Every player on that team could be named Dallan. That's
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 2: Every player on the team is related to each other.
Speaker 3: Also could be true.
Speaker 1: They also all have twenty They also have three kids.
Speaker 1: Like there was a player last year for BYU I
Speaker 1: cannot remember his name that was married and had three children.
Speaker 2: And yes, this was the Stieldhouse.
Speaker 1: No, he was the one. He was the one non
Speaker 1: non super pasty white dude that they had last year.
Speaker 1: I forgot about him.
Speaker 2: He was pretty good.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that HUNTERD. Dickinson tried to spar
Speaker 1: right before they went nuclear on Kansas. Arizona seventy two,
Speaker 1: number sixteen, Cincinnati sixty seven. I told you, guys, Arizona
Speaker 1: was gonna win this game. Cincinnati's kind of a fraud.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't listen to you whatsoever. I actually took
Speaker 2: Cincinnati and I texted my buddies, Hey, if you want
Speaker 2: to watch Cincinnati at home. They bounced back. They did
Speaker 2: not bounce back. Sitting atop the fraud power rankings is Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: who dropped a zero to two and league play and
Speaker 2: trailed wire to wire In this game, Jaden Bradley had
Speaker 2: fifteen points for Arizona and nobody's surprised. Caleb Bloff did
Speaker 2: suck giant ass, going three for fifteen, but he did
Speaker 2: have a nice zero assist to make up for it.
Speaker 2: Well done, sir, well done.
Speaker 1: Why is sucking ass a bad thing? That doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like like?
Speaker 2: Okay, I think in what context? Yeah, let's break this down, guys.
Speaker 2: Let's think about it.
Speaker 1: So you sound like you sound like you know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't have a clue.
Speaker 3: I just there would be multiple reasons white could be
Speaker 3: good and multiple reasons white could be bad.
Speaker 1: I know enough to know that, right. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it always is good. I'm just saying like it does.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like sucking eggs, which I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody wants the sucking.
Speaker 2: Egg Logistically, you know, if you're thinking spatially and you're
Speaker 2: not thinking of like a certain part of said ass, like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make a lot of sense, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Gonna let camp cook sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 2: This is the part of the game where Bill's like,
Speaker 2: oh look, Bill's like, Remy Martin's shooting five for five.
Speaker 2: Let's take them off the floor. And then it's me
Speaker 2: just talking about bots. Welcome inside the paint.
Speaker 1: That's what we do best here. It's yeah, but Caleb
Speaker 1: Love yes, for context of the word, he does suck
Speaker 1: ass Westbridge, speaking of ass, speaking of sucking all of
Speaker 1: the ass. How about the team in Stillwater, West Virginia
Speaker 1: sixty nine. Oh nice, there it is Oklahoma State fifty.
Speaker 1: This game was forty six to nineteen a halftime as
Speaker 1: Kansas quality loss calling it now, West Virginia ran away
Speaker 1: with their home conference opener. You are they're a thought
Speaker 1: to be ranked, sir. Let's we might be the worst
Speaker 1: team in college basketball West Virginia and they don't have
Speaker 1: their best player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they beat an Oklahoma State team that barely
Speaker 2: might make the CBI or whatever that tournament is after
Speaker 2: college basketball season.
Speaker 1: Javon Small got twenty four more points for West Virginia.
Speaker 1: I don't believe any of them came after atrocious over
Speaker 1: and back calls were given to the Mountaineers in this game,
Speaker 1: like like earlier in the week. But a nice performance
Speaker 1: for what Virginia They have a big test with Arizona
Speaker 1: coming up at home this week. If they win that one,
Speaker 1: and they'll probably be ranked. Both of those teams probably
Speaker 1: should be. I think it's time to start talking about
Speaker 1: West Virginia as an at large tournament team. I know
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State isn't going to impress anybody, but West Virginia
Speaker 1: has wins at Kansas, they have wins over Gonzaga, they
Speaker 1: have a win over Arizona, and now they're too and
Speaker 1: zero conference play. They've been better that this is their
Speaker 1: best team. That they have not been ranked since twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. This is their best team since Bob Huggins
Speaker 1: was there.
Speaker 3: I definitely agree, agree.
Speaker 1: I agree with that TCU sixty three Kansas State sixty two.
Speaker 1: Not sure whether to push EMA or because oh my gosh, Cam,
Speaker 1: why did you bet United States currency on the Kansas
Speaker 1: State wildcafy to win a road conference.
Speaker 2: Game allegedly as always crazy faith to go over and
Speaker 2: I just I really thought they would doe. Also, I
Speaker 2: do think that their roster construction isn't that bad, but
Speaker 2: I do think Jerome Tang is not a good coach,
Speaker 2: so it all balances out in the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lost yeah, Landon, they had a they were in
Speaker 1: a really good position. I had this game on because
Speaker 1: what else was there to do as it was icing
Speaker 1: outside than to find whatever the hell My login for
Speaker 1: the CBS Sports Network was so I could watch this game,
Speaker 1: and I had it on. In Kansas State, Doug McDaniel
Speaker 1: played well and they were in complete control for thirty
Speaker 1: seven minutes. But unfortunately for them, basketball games are not
Speaker 1: thirty seven minutes, they're forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. The Wildcats had the sixty two to
Speaker 3: fifty six lead with three minutes. TCU not the team
Speaker 3: to go on a seven zero run, right, you'd be wrong.
Speaker 3: They did as k State four is that game. No
Speaker 3: Reynolds had to go ahead basket in the final ten seconds.
Speaker 3: Let the horde frogs with eighteen drum saying he might
Speaker 3: suck I fear he might ass he sucked balls? Is
Speaker 3: what the notes say? Is that also bad? Why or
Speaker 3: why not? Would it be bad? In what context would
Speaker 3: it be worse?
Speaker 1: Or what's your persuasion see that one would? That depends
Speaker 1: on who greatly and.
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, personally yes, correct, But some people may like that.
Speaker 2: We're not judgmental here on I T P.
Speaker 1: Or yeah, absolutely not do what you want. But whenever
Speaker 1: it comes to sucking, that's a little bit more gender diverse.
Speaker 1: I think I.
Speaker 2: Do that, right, Cam, Yes, I think you're correct. You
Speaker 2: you you you preface that well if if it's Lizzo
Speaker 2: in any context, no, that's punishment by oh my god.
Speaker 1: That there has never been a more applicable push of.
Speaker 3: I hope no man I have ever known, or ever
Speaker 3: will know, or ever currently knows, will ever listen to
Speaker 3: this episode of this show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if my boss is listening, I hope you know
Speaker 2: that I care about my job.
Speaker 1: Another game Office, Oh okay, I just watched last night
Speaker 1: because what is there? What else is there to do
Speaker 1: during an ice storm? Then watch the Office super Fan episodes.
Speaker 1: We're watching the episode where their Jim is trying to
Speaker 1: distract Robert California from noticing that Dwight's doomsday device goes
Speaker 1: off with that email to his phone, and he just
Speaker 1: spikes robert cellphone really hard. That is landing to all
Speaker 1: of his family members pulling up the app store to
Speaker 1: download this episode of the indie podcast just right out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: You know, the saddest part about all of this is
Speaker 2: that my father listens to the show. So Dad, I'm
Speaker 2: sorry and I'm a colossal disappointment.
Speaker 1: Oh I know this is a very yeah, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a very sad sad love. Yeah, like Colorado, they
Speaker 1: have a lot of them for Colorado. Arizona State eighty one,
Speaker 1: Colorado sixty one. Who cares, Landon. It was a good
Speaker 1: night for your surprise team. That's my only note from
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 3: Probably one of their only good nights of the year,
Speaker 3: to be honest, not very surprising.
Speaker 1: Texas Tech ninety three, Utah sixty three. Cam I'll let
Speaker 1: you talk all about the Utes. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna win a Big twelve game. They probably will, but
Speaker 1: I certainly won't pick him to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in a state that has a population probably somewhere
Speaker 2: in the millions of people, I'm not caring enough to look.
Speaker 2: None of them care about Utah basketball. They're the worst
Speaker 2: Big twelve team to ever exist. They are actual buns.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Darien Williams, who scored nineteen for the
Speaker 2: Red Raiders. He's been in college for approximately four hundred years.
Speaker 2: He also witnessed the resurrection of Christ, and he also
Speaker 2: watched multiple miracles happen back in Jerusalem. Utah has a
Speaker 2: white guy with thorhair named Gabe Madsen. He went over
Speaker 2: six shooting threes. He'll go six for twenty four at
Speaker 2: Kansas and then he'll probably make a backbreaking banked late
Speaker 2: shot clock three to be Kansas on the road at Utah.
Speaker 1: For the population of Jujah, the population of Ujah is
Speaker 1: three point four million, which is about thirty five percent
Speaker 1: of the population of the Chicago metro area. Three Utah's
Speaker 1: one Chicago. They are thirty in population and I cannot
Speaker 1: believe I would have lost money. Had you told me
Speaker 1: to pick a number. How many states are more populated
Speaker 1: than Utah, I would have said a lot, fewer than nineteen.
Speaker 2: I definitely would have said the name.
Speaker 1: They're very, very low in population density. But something else
Speaker 1: I would not have predicted. Utah is eleventh out of
Speaker 1: fifty states in median household income. A lot of bee
Speaker 1: keepers out there. I guess what what what jobs are
Speaker 1: in Utah.
Speaker 3: Mormon's going to be a several universities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not very many good basketball teams.
Speaker 2: Currently, there's a lot of openings on the Utah Jazz.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's at least a few job openings.
Speaker 1: I can think of. They have the best ratio of
Speaker 1: NBA players to other people living in their state if
Speaker 1: I had to guess.
Speaker 3: Also, cam check the score of the Lions game is
Speaker 3: this is a throwback to like twenty nineteen era. Itp
Speaker 3: ride just breaking with random football knowledge. The Lion's rolling.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: Jamior Gibbs fourteen night, big time, big time stuff.
Speaker 2: I wish absolutely, Oh, I'm so happy. I wish that
Speaker 2: I had the foresight to put like five dollars on
Speaker 2: jamieer Gibbs four plus touchdowns, because that would be so
Speaker 2: I would be in a much better financial position right
Speaker 2: now than I am. But I'm still happy.
Speaker 1: The Lions look like they're gonna get the one seed.
Speaker 1: Absolutely nothing can stop them from getting to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: especially not Saquon Barkley, right right, nothing, nothing at all,
Speaker 1: not that right.
Speaker 2: Just that in a mobile quarterball.
Speaker 1: Well again, nothing the Eagles have right right.
Speaker 2: It was the NFCC huge game to the Eagles. All
Speaker 2: this be so sad.
Speaker 1: At least it won't be the forty nine ers. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure on that one, not this time. Big twelve
Speaker 1: standings Number one, Houston, Iowa, State, West Virginia, and Arizona.
Speaker 1: They are the only four to make it through the
Speaker 1: first week of play unscathed.
Speaker 3: They're two to zero, tied for fifth, k State KU
Speaker 3: B YU, Baylor, UCF, Arizona State, Texas Tech TCU one
Speaker 3: in one.
Speaker 2: Bringing up the rear, tied for thirteenth. Cal Oh, Colorado,
Speaker 2: I just said, cal So, I was watching Monopoly commercial
Speaker 2: on my It's not.
Speaker 3: The most outlandish thing. It could happen one.
Speaker 2: Day, we know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just give the Lord your mark some more time.
Speaker 2: Utah, since Oklahoma State both all of them are zero
Speaker 2: and two.
Speaker 1: Camp said, bringing up the rear, synonymous with which again
Speaker 1: some people, depending on who you are, may or may
Speaker 1: not preferred to suck said. Oh boy, sorry to all
Speaker 1: of Landon's feature potential employers, friends, all of those things
Speaker 1: that may be listening. Fifty six and a half minutes
Speaker 1: into this episode of the Inside the Paint Podcast Other Games,
Speaker 1: and fifty six minutes is far too late in the
Speaker 1: show to just now be entering this segment. College basketball
Speaker 1: is down to one undefeated team, and that would be
Speaker 1: the number one Tennessee volunteers. Rick Barnes's squad is now
Speaker 1: fourteen to er after demolishing John Calla Perry's number twenty
Speaker 1: three rank Arkansas Razorbacks seventy six to fifty two in Knoxville,
Speaker 1: using what they do good defense to win their Big twelve.
Speaker 1: SE's are Big twelve to win their SEC opener. SEC
Speaker 1: is loaded, and Tennessee sits at the top of the
Speaker 1: rankings right now, falling.
Speaker 3: From the ranks of the unbeaten. We're number six Florida,
Speaker 3: who lost a beautiful one hundred and six one hundred
Speaker 3: game at RUPP to number ten Kentucky for their first loss,
Speaker 3: and the much much more fraudulent number twelve Oklahoma Sooners
Speaker 3: who were stampeded in Tuscaluso by number five Alabama one
Speaker 3: oh seven seventy nine shades of Trey Young coming into
Speaker 3: Allen Fieldhouse. Tennessee, Florida, Kentucky, Alabama, and number two Auburn,
Speaker 3: who smashed from a zoo in their own SEC opener,
Speaker 3: appeared to be the top five teams in college basketball's
Speaker 3: best conference of the SEC is beyond stacked, And yeah,
Speaker 3: the top of that league is absolutely nutty.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find an alarm like thened red alert noise.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe that maybe that's maybe that's the fraud horn,
Speaker 1: and it is going off for you, Porter Moser, because you,
Speaker 1: speaking of all the different things we talked about earlier,
Speaker 1: you suck all of the things. He is horrendous. And
Speaker 1: Oklahoma shouldn't be an NCAA tournament team. They probably will
Speaker 1: be because they're gonna pump up the SEC horn, but
Speaker 1: they are awful.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can see them kind of falling off and
Speaker 2: going to like twenty two and nine or something like that,
Speaker 2: and then getting in the sixt seed.
Speaker 1: They'd put them in the tournament and they'd lose to
Speaker 1: the ten or eleven seed. They'd play. We've seen it
Speaker 1: before with Porter, who has zero career wins over Bill self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of not amazing teams, not to included in
Speaker 2: the best SEC teams conversation is Texas, who got smashed
Speaker 2: by number thirteen Texas A and M eighty to sixty.
Speaker 2: I believe this game was tied at halftime. Actually, who
Speaker 2: would you guys rather have leading your program, Rodney Terry,
Speaker 2: Porter Moser or a blind mouse.
Speaker 1: That's me leaping to my death, Because I'd rather have
Speaker 1: none of those three. If that's my choice, I guess
Speaker 1: I would say Porter Moser because I've actually seen the
Speaker 1: man win in the NCAA tournament, albeit with a lot
Speaker 1: of buzzer beaters. I don't know, and I think I
Speaker 1: might take my chance with a mouse.
Speaker 3: Can I attempt to ran a two E situation with
Speaker 3: a mouse and blind mouse on top of Porter Moser's head?
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds better than Rodney Terry not going anywhere,
Speaker 1: and we all knew he wasn't taking Texas to any
Speaker 1: new heights. Number four Duke has nothing but green grass
Speaker 1: and high tides in front of them in their pursuit
Speaker 1: of an ACC crown, which is pretty worthless as they
Speaker 1: roll through SMU eighty nine sixty two in Dallas. So
Speaker 1: much for that being close. The Blue Devils, who are
Speaker 1: the ACC's only ranked squad, feels like we say that
Speaker 1: every two years. They are four to zero in the league.
Speaker 1: They are a top with Clemson and Pittsburgh in a
Speaker 1: tie with undefeated Atlantic Coast Conference teams. The most exciting
Speaker 1: win of the weekend in that league probably he goes
Speaker 1: to North Carolina, who trailed Notre Dame by three entering
Speaker 1: their final possession before Elliott Cadill got a four point
Speaker 1: play that is a three a foul and a free throw.
Speaker 1: But before you get too excited, the Tar Hills lost
Speaker 1: to Louisville this week and still appear to be quite bad.
Speaker 1: They're nine to six. Good job, Hubert, looks like we're
Speaker 1: gonna do that. Is North Carolina really gonna miss the tournament?
Speaker 1: Thing every other year with Hubert?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait for him to uh, well, you
Speaker 2: know what, you know what, Honestly, I hope they keep
Speaker 2: him there. I think it's entertaining good for Hubert.
Speaker 3: I love how confused Ryan is by who's in the
Speaker 3: Big Ten, even though it's not really that hard. It's
Speaker 3: just who was in the Big Ten last year plus USC.
Speaker 3: He's just completely that's stupid.
Speaker 1: Which those teams aren't anywhere near the other Big ten teams.
Speaker 1: How is USC Rutgers a Big Ten game?
Speaker 2: Ryan?
Speaker 3: Do you know what conference Stanford gheographical importance?
Speaker 1: Stanford's in the ACC, now, aren't they? I know that
Speaker 1: because they played Duke and I learned that a week ago.
Speaker 3: That's a matchup that just works right, like Stanford Duke.
Speaker 1: That makes way too much sense anyway, A bunch of
Speaker 1: non Nebraskas. Nebraska took the number fifteen UCLA by eight
Speaker 1: and number twenty two Illinois held on after blowing elite
Speaker 1: lead to conference faux Washington Ryan.
Speaker 3: Take notes. Top of the league are the two Michigan schools,
Speaker 3: Tom Izzos andber eighteen Spartans have won seven straight camis
Speaker 3: shaking after beating Ohio State in Columbus, and the Wolverines
Speaker 3: beat usc A conference foe Ryan to Todd Michigan State
Speaker 3: at three and oh.
Speaker 2: Oh Tom, Yeah, the Big East almost got really interesting
Speaker 2: with prominence race now to a fourteen point lead on
Speaker 2: number eleven Yukon, but Daniel Hurley squad rallied to barely
Speaker 2: win and gets a four and zero league play. They're
Speaker 2: tied with number eight Marquette at the top of the league,
Speaker 2: who overwhelmed Creighton this weekend. Also a DePaul update, they
Speaker 2: are nine and six, which is better than three and
Speaker 2: twenty nine last year by my map of six games.
Speaker 2: They are also zero to four in league play, and
Speaker 2: they just lost to Villanova and insert missus puff Oh
Speaker 2: Neptune Kyle Neptune by forty four points. Their four league
Speaker 2: losses are by a combined ninety five points.
Speaker 3: Are the UF of the Big East.
Speaker 1: Bishop's psychamore, Hey don't you dare talk bad about my
Speaker 1: man Johnny Dawkins like that, sir. He deserves a lot
Speaker 1: better than being compared to freaking to Paul who. I
Speaker 1: still think Cam should go walk on for It would.
Speaker 2: Be a hilarious reality show. I would need like a
Speaker 2: picket fence set of a screen every time, just get
Speaker 2: a shout off. But we might win zero games?
Speaker 1: Does anybody care that number? Nineteen Gonzaga is three to
Speaker 1: zero inc play and the victories? Okay, yeah, didn't think so.
Speaker 1: What about their win over Pepperdine? Anybody anybody at all?
Speaker 2: No? No, if you're beating schools named after spices, you
Speaker 2: should just quit.
Speaker 1: And oceans, don't forget about Pacific and how they're named
Speaker 1: after an ocean. I wrote something not very nice about
Speaker 1: Mark Few, which is interesting because he is undefeated against
Speaker 1: Bill self.
Speaker 2: Dam Bill.
Speaker 1: But you know, you can't win them all. In my case,
Speaker 1: most of the time, being a Kansas basketball fan, I
Speaker 1: get a lot of wins except for the one team
Speaker 1: that I talk endless crap about being fraudulent, and that
Speaker 1: team always beats my favorite team.
Speaker 3: This was the other one being Houston.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. You don't win them all, but you know,
Speaker 1: what Michael Scott. As Michael Scott said, you'll miss one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the shots. You don't take ranked teams
Speaker 1: to lose. Since the last time we did a podcast.
Speaker 1: Number six, Florida lost to Kentucky. I almost said they
Speaker 1: went on the other side of state lines. But not
Speaker 1: only does Florida not touch Kentucky, Florida and Kentucky are
Speaker 1: not even two states apart. They are three.
Speaker 3: Number twelve Oklahoma should not have been ranked this high,
Speaker 3: and they certainly won't be after this. They got crushed
Speaker 3: my alibamion.
Speaker 2: Number fifteen Ucla, just like their head coach. Came up
Speaker 2: a little bit short at Nebraska.
Speaker 3: It's good stuff, Cam Caim.
Speaker 2: That's lap so good.
Speaker 3: That's quality contam. That's a high percentage shot.
Speaker 2: That's a j Adam's funny.
Speaker 1: It's so high percentage that if you were UCF you
Speaker 1: would have missed it today. Number sixteen Cincinnati. Oh and two,
Speaker 1: now they lost to Arizona.
Speaker 3: They came up just a little short, just like their
Speaker 3: former head coach.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: Number twenty three Arkansas couldn't pay their way to a
Speaker 3: win against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Oh, well like that.
Speaker 2: That's pretty solid. Number twenty five b.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, avoid no no no,
Speaker 3: it's just Bayling, it's just barely.
Speaker 1: Don't last week in pick them Landing with a very
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Chiefs. But no, he's not about to
Speaker 1: go on a run and win at all nine and
Speaker 1: six and pick him a very very twenty four to
Speaker 1: Paul if you will, Oh, I thought you were going
Speaker 1: to say a very twenty twenty four to twenty five
Speaker 1: Kansas and Big twelve play nine and six. But hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, you have, all the all the ability.
Speaker 1: This is the That was a good sentence. They would
Speaker 1: make it. They would make it a story if you
Speaker 1: didn't go down ten points and pick them before roaring
Speaker 1: back to a comeback. Right, That's absolutely how this works.
Speaker 2: It's like a Lance Leipold football team, right right, but at.
Speaker 3: This time with the comeback.
Speaker 1: All right, So I put out the ask ARCB question,
Speaker 1: and I did say that the final couple minutes would
Speaker 1: be during ascarcbs. But this football game doesn't even leave
Speaker 1: you sweating very much. Cam The Lions are rolling right now.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sweating profusely, but that's mostly due to my diet.
Speaker 1: We have eight ASKARCBS, you guys did good because I
Speaker 1: posted this question just a couple hours ago. I said
Speaker 1: you had a strict cutoff of nine o'clock, and as usual,
Speaker 1: we are very punctual on itp it is ten eighteen.
Speaker 1: Only missed that cut off by an hour in eighteen
Speaker 1: minutes at show me Hawk. Do we think West Virginia
Speaker 1: could be a top six Big twelve team this year?
Speaker 1: They already have great winsz Arizona, Kansas. Hey, we were
Speaker 1: talking about that earlier name six teams that are gonna
Speaker 1: do better in the Big twelve than West Virginia. Can
Speaker 1: you do it?
Speaker 3: Not confidently? Certainly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Iowa State, Houston, and Kansas you'd bet.
Speaker 2: On and after that they but not good ones.
Speaker 1: I think you could say West Virginia could finish as
Speaker 1: high as four. It depends on their home court advantage.
Speaker 1: They have a pretty good home court advantage most nights.
Speaker 1: If they can get some of that magic back kind
Speaker 1: of like Texas Tech usually has, where it propels them
Speaker 1: to a couple wins they have no business getting, then yes,
Speaker 1: this team could absolutely And also, by the way, they
Speaker 1: need Tucker to rye back if he doesn't come back
Speaker 1: they're gonna be They're gonna they're gonna ultimately lose some games,
Speaker 1: but if they get him back, he is a lightning rod.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they could be a top six
Speaker 1: team for sure. They might be higher than that. Also
Speaker 1: from Smi Hawk, Well, Kansas have to go fifteen and
Speaker 1: five to get a share of the Big Twelve title.
Speaker 1: Well let's see. Yeah, if they get to fifteen, they
Speaker 1: got it. I think so too. I think fifteen's got
Speaker 1: I think either Houston or Iowa State it's gonna get
Speaker 1: to fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm almost tempted to say sixteen. I think yeah. I mean,
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I think Iowa State is
Speaker 2: really good. Houston is gonna be really tough to beat,
Speaker 2: especially at Houston. I just I don't know. I at
Speaker 2: least fifteen, maybe sixteen.
Speaker 1: Well, the we always kind of take that number down
Speaker 1: a couple of spots because the Big Twelve is consistently
Speaker 1: so good. The bottom level teams are normally even still
Speaker 1: pretty good. But teams like TCU and Utah and UCF
Speaker 1: for those of you who just saw that, like when
Speaker 1: those teams exist, there may be some doormats in this conference.
Speaker 1: For the first time, in a while, which whenever you
Speaker 1: have a sixteen team, like the ten team Big Twelve,
Speaker 1: not having any doormats was one thing. But when you
Speaker 1: go up to sixteen teams, you are going to have
Speaker 1: some doormats, and I think the conference does which when
Speaker 1: you have doormats, that's how you get those seventeen and
Speaker 1: three level ACC teams because they can just crush six
Speaker 1: or seven games every year that they have no danger
Speaker 1: of losing. Is that kind of the way the Big
Speaker 1: Twelve is with Utah and UCF and TCU and Colorado
Speaker 1: at the bottom.
Speaker 2: Kind of think so.
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, sixteen may not be enough
Speaker 1: to get an outright title. I think Iowa State and
Speaker 1: Houston are going to drop four games. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's more. I think they'll drop seventeen we get
Speaker 1: it out of right, I don't know about more, so
Speaker 1: sixteen to get a share, maybe fifteen at true ball, No,
Speaker 1: or do you guys think this team is just going
Speaker 1: to commit to be more efficient than the other team
Speaker 1: and not shoot threes. They definitely are going to try
Speaker 1: to win with defense there, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: Kansas's first goal this year is to pound you inside
Speaker 1: with Hunter Dickinson as much as they can. And and secondly.
Speaker 2: Boy, what has it ever tournament? Uh?
Speaker 1: Well, only with unter Dickinson. Yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: only once. And I have no idea who that came
Speaker 1: against so much, but they're gonna try to win with
Speaker 1: ground and pound basketball and defense. First day it works. Also,
Speaker 1: you see it not hard to beat with defense.
Speaker 3: Tournament music, Yeah, help us all.
Speaker 1: I used to have that on the show. That makes
Speaker 1: me sad that I don't anymore.
Speaker 2: I need to.
Speaker 1: I need to go find that at aj Stevenson are
Speaker 1: Dewan Harris and kJ Adams the last players that we'll
Speaker 1: see at Kansas come in as freshman and graduate as seams.
Speaker 1: That's a great quest question, that's a spy. They are
Speaker 1: among the last of the players that get prominent minutes
Speaker 1: throughout their careers and graduated seniors. You may see some
Speaker 1: like some friggin Zach Clements types, but like prominent players
Speaker 1: probably uh.
Speaker 3: Add as That makes me to admit, because that was
Speaker 3: one of my favorite things about college basketball.
Speaker 2: Yes, probably right.
Speaker 3: I would bet more in favor of that than you
Speaker 3: see a bunch of four year starters.
Speaker 1: Ever, again, because because if we're transfers. If we're just
Speaker 1: looking at guys who are Kansas homegrown players, this roster
Speaker 1: only has six, right clements kJ al Marco Jackson, Uh
Speaker 1: Harris and Jamari McDowell. Is that it? So they have five? Yeah,
Speaker 1: al Marco. Maybe el Marco needs to make it three
Speaker 1: more years, as does McDowell.
Speaker 2: And I can see, Oh god.
Speaker 1: The six to one is Flory, but that's not getting
Speaker 1: to a senior year, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1: L Marco? Oh yeah, fastmar I forgot.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If el Marco Jackson is still here as a senior,
Speaker 1: he's not good and we're having similar kJ Adams conversations
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 3: Maybe so.
Speaker 1: Also kJ Adams is an insult to kJ Adams to
Speaker 1: put those two in the same sentence. At this point
Speaker 1: in their careers. kJ Adams has won basketball games for Kansas.
Speaker 1: You know who hasn't done that? Al Marco Jackson agree, Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not a fair comparison. Next year we
Speaker 1: are gonna see Kansas stick el Marco Jackson next to
Speaker 1: Darren Peterson and Bryson Tiller and Bill self is gonna
Speaker 1: be like, guys, el Marco was our most improved player
Speaker 1: in practice this whole offseason, and Darren Peterson is gonna
Speaker 1: have twenty one points and SIGs assists. Well, al Marco
Speaker 1: goes one for six from three and Bill's gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: Darren's gotta pass the ball more. That just can't happen.
Speaker 1: Just wait, he guys excited for season thirteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Al Marco the team floor Burnston Eye.
Speaker 3: Marco got called for three blocks tonight, but man, his
Speaker 3: effort was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: He was in the right position for those blocks. I
Speaker 2: just didn't like him.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident I'll have Cam to talk about the
Speaker 1: Marco Jackson earra Jayhawks losing faith by the day that
Speaker 1: Landon will be here, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: Ato is right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is Shaquille Moore the best small forward or starting small forward?
Speaker 1: And get you history? I do like, yeah, Well, I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, but Paul Pierce didn't win one hundred percent
Speaker 1: of the games he started, sir, so history would show.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 1: Shack More forward.
Speaker 2: Galaxy brand.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is interesting because this is the second question
Speaker 1: that we I swear we talked about earlier at Preston Skirsik. Dude.
Speaker 1: The Flory reactions tonight gave you deja vu de Furfey
Speaker 1: around this time last year. That's pretty much what we
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Is even the same game, Yes, but
Speaker 1: the ceiling on Floory is this ceiling on Floory is
Speaker 1: so social, so much higher, and he's less his position
Speaker 1: is less important to this one. Last year's team needed
Speaker 1: Furfee so unbelievably badly, and he was just pretty good
Speaker 1: as a freshman and it wasn't enough. Whereas you know
Speaker 1: how this team doesn't need need Fory, but look at him.
Speaker 3: Go.
Speaker 2: You know how I knew last year's team was destined
Speaker 2: to fail was the second I realized that their hopes
Speaker 2: rested in a very young freshman small forward like that alone,
Speaker 2: when when your primary shooter is a freshman that nobody,
Speaker 2: even Nick on the show was like, I don't even
Speaker 2: think he's a real person, Like you can't even find
Speaker 2: information on this guy before he came to Kansas. When
Speaker 2: that's your entire hope, That is when you know it's
Speaker 2: not meant to be. So yeah, no, it's different, but yeah,
Speaker 2: I get the comp though.
Speaker 1: Didn't Furfey like almost red shirt? Wasn't that a thing?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, almost red shirted? Yeah? And you had, and
Speaker 1: because they were counting on Timberlake and Artario Morris to
Speaker 1: be your impact guards. And oh boy did Artaria Morris
Speaker 1: make his impact known, but not in a good way.
Speaker 1: And and al Marco too. I guess al Marco's in
Speaker 1: there as well. Those were the big three and al
Speaker 1: Marco sucked, Timberlake sucked, and Artario was a rapist. Yay
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four?
Speaker 2: No did that?
Speaker 1: Did that get thrown out? I think it did get
Speaker 1: thrown out. I think it got thrown I had a
Speaker 1: few people on the Rock Chalk blog mentions tell me
Speaker 1: see they never should have thrown him out of school?
Speaker 1: What was Bill thinking?
Speaker 2: It was such a crazy jake, dude.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they put their eggs in that basket,
Speaker 1: but they kind of got what they asked for on
Speaker 1: that one. At Let's see here at boxman Ku. How
Speaker 1: many more performances like today? Does Florie need to be
Speaker 1: a one and done? I think it's zero. I think
Speaker 1: he already is.
Speaker 2: Uh. I think he just needs to be fine.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't think like he could go pro that.
Speaker 3: The talent is so obvious. How many does he need
Speaker 3: to have? And how many will he have or two
Speaker 3: different questions too, because I think he's going to have
Speaker 3: a few more games like this before the year is done, hopefully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Cam, do you even think it's a question like
Speaker 1: right now? Like Johnny Furfey was a guy that we
Speaker 1: all kind of knew could go pro and could get drafted.
Speaker 1: He went later than we thought he would, but he could,
Speaker 1: but like another year in college would have done a
Speaker 1: lot of good for him. Whereas do you think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like that with Flori or do you think
Speaker 1: with Flori we're gonna be at a point where it's
Speaker 1: like a no doubt or he is absolutely going pro.
Speaker 2: I think it's the only thing that makes me think
Speaker 2: he could come back as nil money. I think he'd
Speaker 2: be My guess is he'd be like a potential lottery
Speaker 2: picker like Waid first round or if he went this year,
Speaker 2: but he could come back and he could be a
Speaker 2: lottery pick guaranteed. That being said, I wouldn't be shocked
Speaker 2: if he's just gone from right away from this year.
Speaker 2: He's really good.
Speaker 1: They do they have a point guard next year or
Speaker 1: is it el Marco Jackson? Is he their only point
Speaker 1: guard on the roster next year? I know Peterson is
Speaker 1: is kind of he can play point guard, but he's
Speaker 1: a combo guard. Uh, pass War is not a point guard,
Speaker 1: is he? That was LeBaron Fellin who left.
Speaker 3: He came to school as a combo guard. Pass More.
Speaker 1: And so El Marco and Passmore are your and and
Speaker 1: Peterson's obviously your your blue chip, and Bryce and Tiller
Speaker 1: should be here as well, and then Badoonga maybe inside
Speaker 1: Like that's the problem with this year's Jayhawks is are
Speaker 1: they athletic enough? Next year's Jayhawks are not gonna have
Speaker 1: an athleticism problem. It'll just all depend on the same
Speaker 1: thing that every other team depends on. Can they shoot
Speaker 1: well enough? At k Eden fourteen not in a better
Speaker 1: mood until kJ Adams stopped starting games. You think More
Speaker 1: will continue to start, well, then you're gonna be cranky
Speaker 1: for a while because I don't think come off the
Speaker 1: bench the rest of his Kansas career. I think More
Speaker 1: will continue to start for a while. Eventually, I am
Speaker 1: still clamping my fingernails into the camp that either Ryland
Speaker 1: Griffin or aj Store one of them will grab that
Speaker 1: spot and and go with it. At some point. I
Speaker 1: do not think Shaq Moore is starting the rest of
Speaker 1: the games.
Speaker 3: I think Ryland Griffin should get a chance.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: Starting next game.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I have to go with until Store
Speaker 3: gives you consistent minutes over multiple games.
Speaker 1: At this point, Bill says, you'll have kJ and Dewan
Speaker 1: and you will like it. If you ever have asked RCBS,
Speaker 1: use the Twitter hashtag ask rcbe all right now, we
Speaker 1: got to preview a home conference game which didn't go
Speaker 1: very well last time. Maybe this time it will go
Speaker 1: better because into allen Field and not Man and especially
Speaker 1: not at home Quick Landon or Cam you bike in
Speaker 1: both the answers who scored eighteen points the last time
Speaker 1: Arizona State came doll.
Speaker 3: In fieldals plays bird noises incessantly.
Speaker 1: And they'll self does not want you to mention, but
Speaker 1: he just may have allowed won a national title in
Speaker 1: the evening, you know, yeah, yeah, that's uh. It only
Speaker 1: took forty games for a little to be like, oh, hey.
Speaker 2: Two thousand you might know what he's doing.
Speaker 1: Like, I know, we're all pulling our hair out over
Speaker 1: a little bit of the Store and the Griffin stuff.
Speaker 1: But Cam you listened, and Landon you lived it. I
Speaker 1: really cannot emphasize how close we were to ripping every
Speaker 1: hair on our heads out to shreds. Regarding Bill self
Speaker 1: not giving Remy Martin his fair share, that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You will remember I fought the good fight on Rock
Speaker 1: Chalk Blog Twitter because people were like, Remy doesn't play defense,
Speaker 1: so he should be hung in the town square and
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you have to play him. You have
Speaker 1: to play him. He's good.
Speaker 3: And that was like a real life thing too for me,
Speaker 3: Like that wasn't just a bit for this show. Like
Speaker 3: I was at Kansas Games, like yelling at the court
Speaker 3: to play remymore that year.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then they did and they won the whole thing.
Speaker 1: It's almost like it's almost like he was good.
Speaker 3: Rest your hat on that of all time. We should
Speaker 3: frame that take and hang it in all of our
Speaker 3: rooms forever, because that's one of the greatest things we've
Speaker 3: ever said, is that Remy Martin is the key to
Speaker 3: this team winning anything. And we were right.
Speaker 1: It's close, Landon, It's very close, because it's second. Actually,
Speaker 1: the number one best take we've ever had is this,
Speaker 1: come on, play now, come on, come on.
Speaker 3: Here comes the two seat.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: And then Cam, Yeah, Cam, Cam, tell us the story
Speaker 1: of how you with your dad went to that game,
Speaker 1: and to ease your pregame nerves, listen to itp reassure
Speaker 1: you that they really find because Villanova was a good matchup.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Villanova was a great matchup. Everything was good.
Speaker 2: I watched Wayne Selden make twenty three pointers in a
Speaker 2: row in warm ups. I tweeted out, looks like he's confident.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great game. He airballed his first
Speaker 2: three shots, and then I stand next to Villanova fans
Speaker 2: that were the most miserable human beings that I've ever
Speaker 2: encountered in my entire life. Kansas lost, But then I
Speaker 2: walked through the streets depressed.
Speaker 1: Hey it's okay, sir. You were in Louisville, so at
Speaker 1: least it was a fun place.
Speaker 2: I was in the yum.
Speaker 1: Two years later, two years later, Kansas got their revenge.
Speaker 1: Wait what is that? I'm being old that that did
Speaker 1: not happen, not even close.
Speaker 2: Okay, that did not happen.
Speaker 1: It did eventually, but not then. But into Allen Fieldhouse
Speaker 1: comes Remy Martin's former Arizona State team, as they will
Speaker 1: play at what probably like number eleven Kansas. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: today's performance probably saved him a couple spots far in
Speaker 1: the polls. They'll probably go down four spots ish Wednesday,
Speaker 1: January eight, at eight o'clock pm, it will be frightfully cold.
Speaker 1: The Sun Devils, they're coming up to get frozen. I
Speaker 1: am I right sure?
Speaker 2: Why not? Probably yeh bah hombug fok's up.
Speaker 3: The air is gonna say Sun Devils ten and three.
Speaker 3: They are one in one in BA twelve play. They
Speaker 3: lost by eight to Gonsaga and by seventeen to Florida,
Speaker 3: two losses that you can you do mostly take without
Speaker 3: hanging your head too much. They were far and away
Speaker 3: the best teams that they faced in the non conference though.
Speaker 2: Six foot nine power forward the Sheer Jihad I man,
Speaker 2: I have so many things I want to say right now,
Speaker 2: leads the Sun Devils and scoring with fourteen points. He's
Speaker 2: a versatile player that shoots very well from the outside
Speaker 2: at thirty nine percent. He plays alongside six foot ten
Speaker 2: Jayden Quintance in the front court, whoeverages nine to eight,
Speaker 2: is the starting center. They also have a seven foot
Speaker 2: center in Sean Phillips Junior that fouls a lot, but
Speaker 2: plays in moments of defensive emphasis.
Speaker 1: I love how you guys show so much trust in
Speaker 1: me with these notes because you have no idea who's
Speaker 1: playing for Arizona State. Like I could have written six
Speaker 1: foot nine power forward John fark T. Yeah, last game,
Speaker 1: Luigi made one these seven threes. Well, if we're being honest,
Speaker 1: Luigi was three for three shooting.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh.
Speaker 1: You can't do that. No, not on this show. This
Speaker 1: show has standards. What are we doing? But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: you guys made me go off.
Speaker 3: The there's a deep, deep drive to left field by came.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play defense with a modol of denied, defend,
Speaker 2: depose or whatever it said.
Speaker 3: Oh good, that's so clever, Cam, that's so clever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: I have to acknowledge the beauty of the artwork. That
Speaker 3: was what you just said there.
Speaker 1: That is why offered a starting salary of what we're
Speaker 1: paying Landon, who is in his eighth season on the show.
Speaker 1: That's why we went right to the salary, right my
Speaker 1: starting salary.
Speaker 2: I'm a developer man, and you're a transfer guy man.
Speaker 2: That fast.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Arizona State would do that to us.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you guys show because and this is what
Speaker 1: the Big twelve is now. Yeah, this is sad. Thanks
Speaker 1: Lord your Mark, But I could just be making.
Speaker 3: This is Greg.
Speaker 1: I guess that is true. This is Brett or Mark
Speaker 1: can still go sit on a cactus, but whatever. The
Speaker 1: backcourt is led by all Stun Mason, who averages eleven
Speaker 1: and four, alongside wings Josan Sonan and BJ Freeman. I
Speaker 1: am not just Ai chat gpt make up some names
Speaker 1: to fool least. These are their players.
Speaker 2: You got like b J Freeman.
Speaker 1: God, I can hear everybody booing us outside. It's not pretty, folks,
Speaker 1: It's not pretty.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry to all of our listeners. Wow, oh wow.
Speaker 1: You know what, folks, You didn't come to this show
Speaker 1: because you were expecting quality. You came to this show
Speaker 1: because you were expecting.
Speaker 2: Something else, and boy did we deliver an.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well here's what you have to know. Joe
Speaker 1: San Sanan and Adam Miller are three point specialists.
Speaker 2: Man all that.
Speaker 3: And then that's the first name, not like not like
Speaker 3: head Smith Jimmy Roberts, but Josan's non.
Speaker 2: Hey, Adam in the state eight off jihad.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, I'm sorry Arizona State. I think that these
Speaker 1: guys are probably mostly nice people. You wouldn't know, I
Speaker 1: would hope. So just don't let Adam Miller and old
Speaker 1: Joe sNaN shoot threes because they both make almost half
Speaker 1: of them on big sample sizes. They always hit their targets.
Speaker 3: I'll read the next super normal paragraph. Billy Hurley, who
Speaker 3: has been this is I swear, this is what it says.
Speaker 3: This is what Ryan wrote, who has been competing for
Speaker 3: his father's love for years.
Speaker 2: I wrote this.
Speaker 3: He is a failure compared to his brother. Okay, fair
Speaker 3: enough enters Allenfield House with hope of thirty five minutes
Speaker 3: of case Adam game.
Speaker 1: That's pretty funny. That's very true. Speaking of Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is a failure compared to his in a big way,
Speaker 1: but he does have something that his brother doesn't have,
Speaker 1: A win at Allen Field House.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: This is true, Ryan, you just finish this up. I can't,
Speaker 2: ye An.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do a real show. Rock six seconds.
Speaker 1: Let's rock. Arizona State is a very good three point
Speaker 1: shooting team at thirty eight percent. I know that brings
Speaker 1: you a lot of comfort. It's okay, I promise that
Speaker 1: has never hurt Kansas before. They make nine per game,
Speaker 1: and they rely on lots of threes to offset very
Speaker 1: underwhelming two point offense. Their pace is above average, and
Speaker 1: they're among the Big twelve's best teams in shot blocks.
Speaker 1: They have some size and a lot of athleticism, but
Speaker 1: their rebounding numbers aren't impressive. They commit a lot of turnovers.
Speaker 1: I think they lead the Big Twelve in turnovers, and
Speaker 1: they barely shoot seventy percent at the free throw line.
Speaker 1: It's usually very difficult for poor to mediocre free throw
Speaker 1: shooting teams to win at Allen field House. One the
Speaker 1: refs are you know, they always give Kansas to calls.
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna have to make up for that,
Speaker 1: and then whenever you get to the free throw line,
Speaker 1: you don't make very many of them. Not a recipe
Speaker 1: for success.
Speaker 3: Has a losing record in eleven lifetime matchups with Arizona
Speaker 3: State at five and six. The Sun Devils swiped at
Speaker 3: home and home in twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. As
Speaker 3: we mentioned earlier, with Remy Martin on that team of
Speaker 3: the Jayhawks last win against this team was in the
Speaker 3: two thousand and three NCAA tournament, tournament that ended so
Speaker 3: well for Kansas. They are one of two teams that
Speaker 3: Kansas has faced multiple times under Bill self and never
Speaker 3: have beaten. Cam Do you know the other one? I
Speaker 3: don't know if I do actually off the top of
Speaker 3: my head, multiple.
Speaker 1: I've given you some clues on this particular podcast. Auburn,
Speaker 1: I believe, is the only Power League team that they've
Speaker 1: played multiple times in school history and I've never beaten.
Speaker 1: There is one team that they beat once under Roy
Speaker 1: Williams and are oh and two against under Bill self.
Speaker 3: It is Gonzaga.
Speaker 1: It is Gonzaga. Who else would it be? Then? The
Speaker 1: one team? Like, if I could change any stat it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be Kansas's number of national titles. I wouldn't change
Speaker 1: that from four to fifty. I would change their oh
Speaker 1: and two against Gonzaga to two to zero just to
Speaker 1: have Michael Jordan dunking rights on those stupid, stupid, stupid fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah that he's zero and two. Yeah, it's so frustrating.
Speaker 1: All right, predict this game. I predicted that Jayhawks would
Speaker 1: blow out UCF and I was a genius. So I
Speaker 1: think I'll go first here. I think Kansas will handle
Speaker 1: Arizona State. Not necessarily because Kansas play is great, but
Speaker 1: I think Arizona State is kind of similar in the metrics. Again,
Speaker 1: I haven't I'm not claiming to be a Sun Devil's expert,
Speaker 1: but in the metrics, they kind of project as a
Speaker 1: similar matchup to UCF. Maybe a little more athletic, but
Speaker 1: they rely more on threes than two's, and if the
Speaker 1: three point shot isn't following, they have tendency to get blasted,
Speaker 1: which has happened a couple times in non conference play. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see if they can keep pace at Allen Field House,
Speaker 1: but they foul a lot, they don't shoot very well
Speaker 1: at the free throw line. Feels like a good recipe
Speaker 1: for Kansas to get rolling and start a fresh home
Speaker 1: winning streak. I will pick Kansas to hang eighty on
Speaker 1: these guys and win eighty to sixty six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I honestly, I was saying something very simil are here.
Speaker 3: I think Arizona State is probably I mean, I would
Speaker 3: be shocked if they lose by fifty, but I definitely
Speaker 3: think Kansas should like the matchup. They do seem to
Speaker 3: grade out pretty similarly to UCF. I think, just yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm more athletic version of that. I'll say seventy eight
Speaker 3: sixty three. Kansas wins by fifteen and keeps them, keeps
Speaker 3: them at a good distance the whole day.
Speaker 2: I agree with both of you guys. I think Kansas
Speaker 2: wins eighty three to sixty five and a pretty comfortable win.
Speaker 1: Well, after all you guys talked about, you know it's
Speaker 1: going to be pretty cold outside, so I hope there's
Speaker 1: no explosions that warm up the field house. Oh man,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, Cam, follow that up with something.
Speaker 2: I just I feel like I have it in me.
Speaker 2: But I think if I say what I'm thinking. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if I say what I'm thinking, our whole show gets
Speaker 2: wiped off the air.
Speaker 3: I'd like to have some level of honor that I
Speaker 3: can share with my family after this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, run Away.
Speaker 1: Landon's a good boy. I promise he's a He's a
Speaker 1: good guy. He's much better than He's much better than
Speaker 1: than myself. I can't speak on behalf of Cam though.
Speaker 1: After hearing camp for sixteen shows, now I'm beginning to
Speaker 1: think that Cam might be below Landing on the moral line,
Speaker 1: which is fine, totally fine. I'm just like, you're somewhere
Speaker 1: between the two of us. Can that's that's still second place,
Speaker 1: isn't bad?
Speaker 2: I think I have good intentions and I have a
Speaker 2: very poor way of expressing those. And hey, that's podcast.
Speaker 1: Sounds like what Jamie Dixon will be telling his team
Speaker 1: after they lose by a lot to Houston here this
Speaker 1: week other games. TCU at number fourteen Houston on Big
Speaker 1: Monday sounds like a big blowout. Give me the Cougars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, same by a lot.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Was it last year or two years ago that Houston
Speaker 1: and TCU played in the Big twelve tournament. The game
Speaker 1: was like eighteen to zero or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that feels right.
Speaker 3: It must have been last year.
Speaker 2: I think it was the last.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Arizona at West Virginia and the only battle of
Speaker 1: two and oh teams. I will believe in West Virginia
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'll take him to get to three
Speaker 1: and oh and hold my nose doing it because I
Speaker 1: don't feel great about it.
Speaker 3: Same on a classic Caleb Love two for seventeen outing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, give me gimme West Virginia.
Speaker 1: Utah at number three Iowa State. Maybe the I was
Speaker 1: gonna say this might be the biggest blow out of
Speaker 1: the Big twelve season.
Speaker 2: But it's literally what happened.
Speaker 3: If we had but witness what happened by fifty. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Utah will not keep this game close. Clones or
Speaker 1: three and oh.
Speaker 3: Iowa State scores one hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was stayed by fifty.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati at Baylor, Bearcats desperately needing a win, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they get it here. I think Baylor drops
Speaker 1: him to oh to three.
Speaker 3: Close game. I think Baylor does win.
Speaker 2: Yep, give me Baylor.
Speaker 1: So if since he loses that game, they are oho
Speaker 1: and three heading into the Saturday game against Kansas, and
Speaker 1: I'm not super like in the NFL, team that are
Speaker 1: desperate to avoid oh and two or oh and three
Speaker 1: normally have really good records. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: it works like that as much in college basketball. But
Speaker 1: I really don't want to see a desperate, desperate, desperate
Speaker 1: and talented Cincinnati team against Kansas. So I hope they win,
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. Kansas State at Oklahoma State,
Speaker 1: I'd rather die than watch this game, but I'll pick
Speaker 1: the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Give me the.
Speaker 2: Cowboys, give me the fighting. Your own tangs unbelievable.
Speaker 1: You still don't learn your lesson, sir. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get how you can keep rolling running.
Speaker 2: At throttle the day.
Speaker 3: They did to Still Water.
Speaker 2: And Kansas State should have should have beat TCU.
Speaker 3: Yes they should have, but their closest road loss of
Speaker 3: the season, by definition.
Speaker 2: Will be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, quite possibly. Let's see here, Texas Tech at BYU.
Speaker 1: There's so many games. I will take the Mormons.
Speaker 3: Red Raiders. I think YU is booty cheeks.
Speaker 2: I think they both kind of suck. But I'll take BYU.
Speaker 1: And Colorado at Central Florida. Boy, that's probably the toughest
Speaker 1: game to pick. I will say, UCF bounces back.
Speaker 3: Same. I think you CEF, you have bounces back as
Speaker 3: much as they can. Lucky to have one of the
Speaker 3: other teams I think is truly atrocious in this league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you s F bounced back.
Speaker 1: Tad Boyle is still the coach. There are they changed yet?
Speaker 3: I think it's Tad Boyle.
Speaker 1: That's way too long, even though they made the tournament
Speaker 1: last year. That's way too much Tad Boyle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1: Other games number one, Tennessee at number six Florida. Give
Speaker 1: me the Gators, yep, Gators. Number two. Auburn at Texas.
Speaker 1: Ah ha ha Auburn.
Speaker 2: Big correct sadly yes.
Speaker 1: Number ten Kentucky at Georgia upset, question mark cam go first.
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm going to No, I'm taking Kentucky. They're
Speaker 2: too good.
Speaker 1: I'll take the upset, give me the Bulldogs.
Speaker 3: I wondered if I would be the only one on it.
Speaker 3: I think Georgia might actually suck a lot. I can't
Speaker 3: find her exact record super quickly, but I will take Kentucky.
Speaker 1: I think Kentucky's vulnerable enough where they'll lose a couple
Speaker 1: and these road games are brutal, like these SEC road
Speaker 1: games are what Big twelve road games were for many years.
Speaker 1: Number eleven Yukon they yeah, that's true. Number eleven Yukon
Speaker 1: at Villanova. I will take Yukon, but that because I
Speaker 1: don't think Villanova is good at all. But that also
Speaker 1: feels like a trap spot see.
Speaker 3: I'll take Nova here and I'll get both wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, No, Yukon for sure.
Speaker 1: Number twenty four, Ole Miss at number twenty three Arkansaw,
Speaker 1: I will I'm not a believer at all on Chris
Speaker 1: Beard's team. I will take the PayPal cows yep, same
Speaker 1: number thirteen Texas A and m at number twelve Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: These rankings are all gonna ship. But are you betting
Speaker 1: on the Sooners to bounce back at home?
Speaker 2: No, sir, I actually I actually am give me Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Landon. I think the Aggies win. I
Speaker 1: think Oklahoma's about the free fall and finishing us off
Speaker 1: a rematch of the football game we just watched the
Speaker 1: other day. Number nine Oregon at Ohio State. I predict
Speaker 1: this one goes better than expected for or better than
Speaker 1: the football game did for Oregon. I think they'll win.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, yeah, I'll take Oregon, all right.
Speaker 1: So we'll be back here later in the week to
Speaker 1: talk about Kansas and Arizona State and they get ready
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati. Two and oer week for the Jayhawks puts
Speaker 1: them at three and one, and I think realistically that's
Speaker 1: about what we thought they'd be through four games. So
Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to make up for their loss
Speaker 1: to West Virginia by winning both games this week, get
Speaker 1: to three and one heading into the Big Winsday game
Speaker 1: in Ames, and we'll see what happ weapons. Until then.
Speaker 1: This is the Inside the Paint podcast on rock Chalk Blog.
Speaker 1: I apologize for everybody that we may have offended today.
Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Landra.
Speaker 2: Uh ditto, I'm Landing Fields. Yeah, I'm Cam and I
Speaker 2: feel really bad right now.
Speaker 1: Cam's just happy about the Lions. That's that's it happens.
Speaker 2: That'll go down as an all timer of a show. Guys,
Speaker 2: some stuff.
Speaker 1: It started with talking about what sucking meant, specifically various things,
Speaker 1: and it ended with the well it's not our fault.
Speaker 1: Arizona States. Players' names all all sound different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they discussing the nature of what the
Speaker 3: show is while doing the show makes me think that,
Speaker 3: like when this was trendy, like eight months ago, we
Speaker 3: should have done a tier list of all of the
Speaker 3: KU Tournament loss episodes.
Speaker 1: I have them all in one Google upload. I have
Speaker 1: them all on the dogs. I think the most the
Speaker 1: most depressing one is Oregon. The most anger one is
Speaker 1: probably Gonzaga. There's there's there's a lot of them. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of them. You're not gonna get one this year.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which daw State? Maybe the angry one? I
Speaker 1: remember that one. That's that was awesome. Yeah, welcome Daniel.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Good news is there's not gonna be one this year.
Speaker 1: I promise somebody say bye.
Speaker 2: Please, please, By Hod