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Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to Drain today. Durin's an
Speaker 1: individual from the great state of Illinois. I was introduced
Speaker 1: to her through a mutual friend and I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to talk to her today. Sounds like we've got a
Speaker 1: lot of ground to cover. So Durraine, welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: How are you today?
Speaker 2: I'm great? Thanks for having.
Speaker 1: Me absolutely and Duran, is there anything about you that
Speaker 1: we need to know right off the bat before we
Speaker 1: get into all this bigfoot activity that's been going on.
Speaker 2: Well, I always tell everyone that I have a head
Speaker 2: full of this stuff, so it's sometimes hard for me
Speaker 2: to keep track of everything. So I try to keep
Speaker 2: it linear, but sometimes I get off on tangents. So
Speaker 2: it's just the reason for that is just I've been
Speaker 2: at this for so long, since I was nine, and
Speaker 2: there's just so much to cover. I've had many encounters.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have had one single encounter.
Speaker 2: I have ongoing encounters, So there's so much in my
Speaker 2: head that sometimes I lose track of what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: So that would be my biggest thing that somebody should
Speaker 2: know about me. First off, I seem a little weird,
Speaker 2: so that's all.
Speaker 1: Hey, we're all a little beard. I think that's listening
Speaker 1: to this, So I love that. So in this one, guys,
Speaker 1: you will be hearing probably a lot of me as well.
Speaker 1: Per the pre interview, Durine would be a little bit
Speaker 1: more comfortable with it, more guided experience. So DuRane, first,
Speaker 1: would you mind sharing what part of Illinois? Maybe not
Speaker 1: not giving away too much, but are we looking at
Speaker 1: northern or southern or what area of Illinois are we
Speaker 1: looking at.
Speaker 2: I am in the central part of the state where
Speaker 2: a lot of rivers intersect here, the Illinois River and
Speaker 2: some other smaller rivers around here. It's very, very forested
Speaker 2: in a lot of areas. I live in a small
Speaker 2: city here, and the city itself is forested quite a
Speaker 2: bit on the side that I'm on, and there's a
Speaker 2: huge creek that runs through my neighborhood. I actually live
Speaker 2: in the city and a lot of these experiences have
Speaker 2: taken place here in the urban area. So that's what
Speaker 2: I find That's what I found fascinating about this is
Speaker 2: that I realized that they're not just out in the
Speaker 2: country or in the wilderness. They're everywhere, including my city.
Speaker 2: So I'll be talking a lot about that.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Central Illinois is definitely in the I would say,
Speaker 1: if there's a bigfoot news or what people are looking at,
Speaker 1: it's got to focus on it. For the last few months,
Speaker 1: there's been some at least one sighting in let's see,
Speaker 1: it was southwest of Peoria along the Illinois River and cool.
Speaker 2: I am ok, and I would say people have argued
Speaker 2: with me on this, but I would say that Illinois
Speaker 2: probably has as many bigfoot as much population as the
Speaker 2: state of Oregon. I would say that very boldly because
Speaker 2: I've seen them everywhere here.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's a bold statement. But I mean, if you
Speaker 1: take southern Illinois into consideration, that alone is absolutely wild
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 2: It's here around the rivers and the woods. It's perfect
Speaker 2: habitat for them. But it's interesting how they get into
Speaker 2: the urban areas and they seem to thrive here. A
Speaker 2: lot of people don't believe me, but you know, I've
Speaker 2: seen things myself, but there's a different way of seeing
Speaker 2: them that's interesting and I want to talk too.
Speaker 1: So absolutely during take us back to the very beginning
Speaker 1: when all this started, when you first started having interaction
Speaker 1: with these creatures.
Speaker 2: It was about five or six years ago that I
Speaker 2: actually started interacting with them. Let's see, it would have
Speaker 2: been twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, something like that. My entire life,
Speaker 2: I had always known they were there, kind of like
Speaker 2: I was always hiking. I was always in the woods.
Speaker 2: Even when I was a little kid. I was always
Speaker 2: walking in the woods because we lived in a small
Speaker 2: town near the river, always out in the woods, and
Speaker 2: I was always aware that I was being watched all
Speaker 2: the time, and years later, I ended up getting a
Speaker 2: divorce and I was finding trying to find a way
Speaker 2: to find some peace inside my mind, because you know,
Speaker 2: divorce is not easy. And I started walking the woods
Speaker 2: again in my area, and I started getting a sense
Speaker 2: that they definitely were still there, that something was there anyway.
Speaker 2: I wasn't thinking so consciously that it was Bigfoot, but
Speaker 2: I was just aware that there was something watching me
Speaker 2: all the time. You know that feeling when you think
Speaker 2: you're being watched. It's intuitive, you know, we're kind of
Speaker 2: taught that our intuition doesn't mean anything, but it definitely does,
Speaker 2: because it's that feeling of angst, like there's something there.
Speaker 2: You can't see it, but you know it's there. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I started looking for evidence. I started getting into bigfoot
Speaker 2: a little bit. I was writing articles for a website,
Speaker 2: and I was kind of getting into a mindset where
Speaker 2: I was really thinking about the subject more. And I
Speaker 2: wrote articles for several years before I really started looking
Speaker 2: for evidence of what I knew was already there. And
Speaker 2: I started finding footprints and stick structures. You know what
Speaker 2: they call stick structures, those tpe structures, and they do
Speaker 2: weaving of branches and things like that, and they do glyphs,
Speaker 2: wood structures on the ground and things like that. I
Speaker 2: started finding those lots and lots of footprints in a
Speaker 2: particular area on the Sangamon River here and realized that
Speaker 2: there really was something to it. So I kind of
Speaker 2: toyed with the idea of Bigfoot. It was just kind
Speaker 2: of in the back of my mind for my entire life,
Speaker 2: practically ever since the Patterson Gimlin film, you know, back
Speaker 2: in nineteen what was that, nineteen sixty seven, Uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm old. But anyway, I was finding physical evidence of
Speaker 2: them everywhere. I mean in the area I was looking.
Speaker 2: There were footprints all over the place, and these were
Speaker 2: public areas where people other people could see them, except
Speaker 2: they weren't looking at them, you know. There were people
Speaker 2: just walking around everywhere, hiking the trails, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't people see these because they're obvious footprints. And I
Speaker 2: was getting deeper and deeper into it and finding all
Speaker 2: kinds of things, learning a lot, but the experience was
Speaker 2: mostly a physical experience for the most part. And I
Speaker 2: had a feeling like they were trying to connect with me.
Speaker 2: And I hate to always talk about feelings so much,
Speaker 2: but when you're actually really into Bigfoot, I mean really
Speaker 2: into the truth of what they are, you kind of
Speaker 2: venture out of the physical realm and into the kind
Speaker 2: of metaphysical realm, and there's you start to realize that
Speaker 2: there's a reality beyond the one we can see and
Speaker 2: feel and touch. And this is what they teach you.
Speaker 2: The Bigfoot teach you this because in order to connect
Speaker 2: with them, you have to let go of the idea
Speaker 2: of the physical. Now. I know that a lot of
Speaker 2: people have had physical encounters, of course, but I can
Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about why that's the case.
Speaker 2: And this is what the Bigfoot themselves have told me.
Speaker 2: In recent years. They've I've had mindspeak conversations. Mine speak
Speaker 2: is just telepathy. If people don't realize what it is,
Speaker 2: it's just telepathy. It's real. And they've told me certain
Speaker 2: things about what they're doing. But there was a lot
Speaker 2: that led up to that when I realized that there
Speaker 2: was a metaphysical experience going on. Like the reason I
Speaker 2: knew that was I knew they were there, and it
Speaker 2: was getting to the point where I felt like they
Speaker 2: were trying to connect with me because it felt like
Speaker 2: they were getting closer to me like I can almost
Speaker 2: feel them. I don't want to say breathing down my neck,
Speaker 2: but it was almost like that, like they really wanted
Speaker 2: to let me know they were there. So I'm a
Speaker 2: wildlife photographer. I was always out in the woods at
Speaker 2: that point, and I was just out there taking pictures
Speaker 2: and walking the woods and walking around along the water
Speaker 2: and things like that, and there was just a weird
Speaker 2: feeling at one point like they were really trying to
Speaker 2: connect with me. And I started talking to them and
Speaker 2: I just said, I know you're here. I can't see you,
Speaker 2: but I know you're here, and I wish that you
Speaker 2: would show me something that tells me that you want
Speaker 2: to connect with me, that you want to communicate with me,
Speaker 2: or if it's okay if I do with you. And
Speaker 2: nothing happened. For the longest time. I just kept walking
Speaker 2: the woods and taking pictures and nothing really happened for
Speaker 2: a little while, and then out of the blue, all
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I started finding really elaborate structures
Speaker 2: on my trail. I would find feathers sticking out of
Speaker 2: the ground. They would put like a round glyph, like
Speaker 2: a circle, they'd put a feather in the middle of it.
Speaker 2: Feathers were a big when they put feathers everywhere. I
Speaker 2: actually went into a porta potty one day when I
Speaker 2: was out there and stuck. They had stuck one in
Speaker 2: there for me to find, which I thought was crazy,
Speaker 2: But anyway, they were sticking them where they knew I
Speaker 2: would be. It's almost like they knew where I was
Speaker 2: going before I went there. And one day I found
Speaker 2: a little structure. They had taken a Barbie doll head
Speaker 2: and stuck it on the end of a stick and
Speaker 2: stuck it in the ground, and there was a little
Speaker 2: circle of rocks around it, and the Barbie doll head,
Speaker 2: I'm a blonde, and the Barbie doll head, of course
Speaker 2: is blonde. And I knew immediately that that was that
Speaker 2: was a communication. But it was just the funniest thing,
Speaker 2: because they do seem to have kind of a sense
Speaker 2: of humor about what they do. But every time I
Speaker 2: went that out there, I was like out there every
Speaker 2: day for quite a while because it was getting more
Speaker 2: and more interesting. I was finding more things, and I
Speaker 2: was out there every day and they would leave me something.
Speaker 2: But the Barbie doll head was one of the most
Speaker 2: interesting things that I ever found. I knew that that
Speaker 2: was directed at me.
Speaker 1: Was there also a time when you had like a
Speaker 1: physical like you got close to one in the physical form,
Speaker 1: or you're like, there's one really close because I've I
Speaker 1: think I've found that that close interaction can almost jumpstart
Speaker 1: a person looking at this completely different and experiencing mind
Speaker 1: speak or things like that. Is that anything that happened
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: I've seen them in the physical several times, but there
Speaker 2: wasn't a physical experience. It really got me. That's what
Speaker 2: really bugs people who don't believe in the metaphysical aspects
Speaker 2: is that I've never really had a serious physical encounter.
Speaker 2: It's always been I can feel them there. I know
Speaker 2: they're there. You know, it's like I know there's something there.
Speaker 2: It's like a person is standing behind you, but you
Speaker 2: turn around and there's, you know, nothing there. It's just
Speaker 2: the weirdest thing. You just they really teach you that
Speaker 2: the world is reality is not what we think it is.
Speaker 2: And I'll get into that more as we go, because
Speaker 2: they did explain that to me to a certain extent.
Speaker 2: But they just teach you that reality is different than
Speaker 2: what we've been taught, and you really realize that we
Speaker 2: are what we're taught really is really wrong.
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Speaker 2: It's all incorrect. We've been taught everything incorrect, including the
Speaker 2: implementation of logic. We don't use logic in the right
Speaker 2: way at all. Logic is too subjective, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's a whole other topic for another day. But they
Speaker 2: just if you let them, they gradually make you understand
Speaker 2: that there's a whole different reality on a different plane
Speaker 2: that we haven't been seeing. And what they're trying to
Speaker 2: do is they're trying to show it to you in
Speaker 2: bite sized pieces, you know, because there's a lot that
Speaker 2: people can't handle. Did I answer your question?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. So there have been times
Speaker 1: when you have had a visual sighting of one.
Speaker 2: Have been many visual sightings, but only a few that
Speaker 2: were really clear enough that I could say, you know,
Speaker 2: that was a physical encounter. They actually run in and
Speaker 2: out between metaphysical and physical. They can be like half
Speaker 2: and half. Sometimes it's weird. You can see half of
Speaker 2: one and the like at the top half like you know,
Speaker 2: it's that bigfoot type shape. You can see the silhouette
Speaker 2: the form of it, but then there's no bottom like
Speaker 2: part of them is not there, and people have tried
Speaker 2: to use that to debunk what I'm saying all the time.
Speaker 2: But you have to understand, we've been looking for these
Speaker 2: beings for you know, well since nineteen sixty seven, and
Speaker 2: we haven't really found that much. But the people who
Speaker 2: do the research know that they exist, and we have
Speaker 2: found footprints and other physical evidence. We just can't get
Speaker 2: a clear picture of them. Okay, here's a weird explanation
Speaker 2: for why is they are a metaphysical being. They're paranormal
Speaker 2: and they're also physical, and that's what we have to
Speaker 2: wrap our minds around. It's not they're not normal, like
Speaker 2: they're not an animal like what we you know, we're
Speaker 2: always looking for cryptids, the unknown animals, like the Lockness monster, whatever.
Speaker 2: We're always looking for them to be what we think
Speaker 2: they should be, a physical being. But when you're dealing
Speaker 2: with Bigfoot, you're not dealing with a fully physical being.
Speaker 2: I mean, they are physical, and yet they can become
Speaker 2: non physical. And that's what people can't wrap their minds around.
Speaker 2: And that's what they're trying to teach us that this
Speaker 2: is actually possible. It's the whole explanation for why we're
Speaker 2: not finding them like you know, the other cryptids that
Speaker 2: we found over the years. We're not finding these at
Speaker 2: all because they're different. And they have told me they
Speaker 2: come from someplace else, so they come from they're aliens. Basically,
Speaker 2: they're not from here. So that gets very interesting too.
Speaker 2: You know, I haven't got a detailed explanation of where
Speaker 2: they are from. But the thing is, if anybody's familiar
Speaker 2: with the the idea that they are human. You know
Speaker 2: the the DNA study where they found out that they're
Speaker 2: half human and half alien. Okay, this was a real
Speaker 2: that was done. And the thing is they're related to
Speaker 2: us in that respect. They have human DNA. Okay. People
Speaker 2: were finding what they thought was bigfoot DNA and they
Speaker 2: take it into an analyst and they find out it's human. Well,
Speaker 2: they're related to us, so yes, it's coming up human.
Speaker 2: That was the explanation of why we could never get
Speaker 2: bigfoot DNA. Okay, it's human DNA. It's what it is.
Speaker 2: It's only slightly different than ours. But anyway, they are
Speaker 2: related to us. And what is really strange, and I
Speaker 2: know I'm getting off on a tangent here, but what's
Speaker 2: really strange is that if they're human, if that's really true,
Speaker 2: then the abilities that they have we also have the
Speaker 2: potential for. So this is when you get into the
Speaker 2: quantum aspects of them. They are actually quantum in nature.
Speaker 1: How would you break that down for a person who
Speaker 1: has never heard that terminology before in relation to Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Okay, to me, quantum just means we don't understand it, gotcha,
Speaker 2: we don't really understand it. But okay, So this dealing
Speaker 2: with them, trying to understand them better with the information
Speaker 2: that they were giving me to kind of help me,
Speaker 2: I was kind of forced to learn a little bit
Speaker 2: about quantum physics and basically how reality actually works and
Speaker 2: not the way we've been taught that every thing works.
Speaker 2: We've been taught that this is a physical world. We
Speaker 2: can we can see everything, and everything we can see
Speaker 2: is what's real, And of course that's not true at all.
Speaker 2: There is a whole other plane of existence, many planes
Speaker 2: of existence actually that exist, and there are all kinds
Speaker 2: of other beings that exist beyond, you know, beyond what
Speaker 2: we can perceive. So what we're experiencing on a daily
Speaker 2: basis is not all there is. And as far as
Speaker 2: I'm concerned, the Bigfoot or proof of that. But you know,
Speaker 2: it's really hard to prove this to other people who
Speaker 2: don't understand what how reality really does work. It's all
Speaker 2: a matter of as Nikola Tesla said, energy frequency, and
Speaker 2: by if you think in terms of energy, everything starts
Speaker 2: to make sense, their existence starts to make sense what
Speaker 2: you can't. Okay, the biggest complaint people have is about
Speaker 2: Bigfoot is the wu aspect, where you know, there are
Speaker 2: some people who believe they can cloak and they can
Speaker 2: do all these amazing interesting things. You know, they can
Speaker 2: make themselves invisible, they can blend in with anything, they
Speaker 2: can levitate, you know, all this kind of stuff. All
Speaker 2: of that comes from what I'm talking about energy frequency
Speaker 2: and vibration. Energy is what everything is. Everything consists of energy.
Speaker 2: There's nothing really solid that exists. It's all a matter
Speaker 2: of the frequency the vibration of something. You know, like
Speaker 2: a lower vibration a solid object is a lower vibrating thing,
Speaker 2: whereas a higher vibration can become almost invisible. Like it's
Speaker 2: kind of like a ceiling fan. Once you turn it
Speaker 2: up high. Okay, you got it on low and you
Speaker 2: can still see the blades, but you turn it up higher,
Speaker 2: the blades kind of disappear, and Bigfoot exists at an
Speaker 2: extremely high vibration and if we don't match that frequency,
Speaker 2: we're not going to see anything. We're not going to
Speaker 2: have any kind of experience with them. We can only
Speaker 2: have the lower frequency experience, which is the physical experience.
Speaker 2: And that's what a lot of people have had, was
Speaker 2: the lower frequency experience. They had to see the physical
Speaker 2: in order to say, hey, you know what, I didn't
Speaker 2: believe in these things before, but now I've seen one
Speaker 2: and now I do believe. But it takes a little
Speaker 2: more doing.
Speaker 1: Logically, the question I should be asking is if they
Speaker 1: then are on a higher frequency, then how do we
Speaker 1: jump up to that if possible?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you asked that. I'm sure, Okay. So
Speaker 2: this brought me to the idea of how do I
Speaker 2: meet them where they are? What's a possible way for
Speaker 2: me to meet them where they are? And I started
Speaker 2: meditating to raise my frequency and got to the point
Speaker 2: where I was I was meditating a couple hours a day,
Speaker 2: which was ridiculous when I think about it now, because
Speaker 2: I don't do that now, But at the time I
Speaker 2: was determined that I was going to figure out how
Speaker 2: to find them where they were, rather than trying to
Speaker 2: get them to come to me in the physical. I
Speaker 2: was going to try to figure out how I could
Speaker 2: find them. But I'd taken pictures out there in the woods,
Speaker 2: and I was taking pictures of any time I had
Speaker 2: a feeling or heard a twig snap, I would snap
Speaker 2: a picture in that direction. And I was studying these
Speaker 2: pictures trying to see them, and I wasn't seeing anything.
Speaker 2: And I had a friend who was more into the
Speaker 2: metaphysical aspects than I was, and she was good at
Speaker 2: seeing them. And don't ask me why I thought she
Speaker 2: was good at seeing them, because I don't know. She
Speaker 2: just seemed to have a sense like I did that
Speaker 2: they were right there, but she could see them better
Speaker 2: than I could. And She's like, look right there, at
Speaker 2: that shape. Now it's cloaking, it's standing right there behind you.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, I could feel it right behind me,
Speaker 2: but I wasn't, you know, I never saw anything. But anyway,
Speaker 2: she was kind of teaching me how to start seeing them,
Speaker 2: and you could see what she was talking about. I
Speaker 2: wasn't like I thought she was, you know, full of
Speaker 2: it and just making stuff up because she was very
Speaker 2: serious about her own research, and she'd been doing it
Speaker 2: for many years, and there was a lot of physical evidence.
Speaker 2: She had a lot of proof. They had given her gifts,
Speaker 2: and you know, she was fairly credible to me. And
Speaker 2: I was always kind of a logic person in the
Speaker 2: early days, so for me to take that leap of
Speaker 2: faith with her was a pretty big deal. But anyway,
Speaker 2: she was teaching me what to look for in these pictures,
Speaker 2: and after a while you start to see, now, when
Speaker 2: you're seeing all these things, you're also looking for the
Speaker 2: physical evidence in that spot. Okay, so there's all kinds
Speaker 2: of physical evidence, but I'm not seeing anything, but I'm
Speaker 2: swearing that they're right there with me, like I can
Speaker 2: feel them right there. And anyway, the experience is becoming
Speaker 2: more intense because I'm looking at these pictures and now
Speaker 2: I can see shapes. I mean, these are the classic
Speaker 2: bigfoot shapes, and sometimes I can even see expressions on
Speaker 2: their faces. I can see, you know, that they're very
Speaker 2: very close to me, or they didn't want to get
Speaker 2: too close to me. I was just starting to see
Speaker 2: in these pictures that there was definitely something there. Because
Speaker 2: I would take the picture, and I would be looking
Speaker 2: at what I thought was nothing. But I would hold
Speaker 2: the camera up and I'm looking at the screen on
Speaker 2: the back of the camera, and I don't see anything.
Speaker 2: With my naked eye, I don't see anything right there
Speaker 2: in front of me. But I look at the camera,
Speaker 2: the screen on the back of the camera, and I
Speaker 2: can see all kinds of shapes, dark shapes. Okay, I
Speaker 2: put the camera down and I look with my naked eye,
Speaker 2: those dark shapes aren't there. I put the camera back
Speaker 2: up and look through the screen again. There they are again,
Speaker 2: the shapes, and there's a density to the shapes.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: It's like there's something there, but it's kind of blurry.
Speaker 2: You know. We always joke about the blurry photos. Bigfoot
Speaker 2: is blurry. People they are that is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Was that a digital sorry, was that a digital camera.
Speaker 2: Or this was a professional camera? This was a digital camera,
Speaker 2: and it works with any camera I've used. But I
Speaker 2: can look at a spot where I think I know
Speaker 2: they are because I can feel them, and I look
Speaker 2: at that spot, I don't really see anything. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: see something now, but that's an evolution there that's evolved
Speaker 2: over time.
Speaker 1: But does that work? Sorry, does that work with a
Speaker 1: cell phone as well?
Speaker 2: And you're yes, that's what I'm using now the time.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, any kind of digital I don't know if
Speaker 2: film cameras work the same. I've never tried that, but
Speaker 2: in camera i've used in the last few years has
Speaker 2: done the same thing. I will look at that spot
Speaker 2: in the bushes and I might not see a single thing,
Speaker 2: and I think, well, you know, there's nothing here, but
Speaker 2: it's weird because I feel something here. You know, it's
Speaker 2: just a weird feeling. So I go ahead and I
Speaker 2: take the picture. I just got in the habit of
Speaker 2: going ahead taking the picture even though I thought there
Speaker 2: was nothing there, and when I got home, I would
Speaker 2: see all kinds of things that were not there when
Speaker 2: I was actually looking at it. That was one of
Speaker 2: the first things I noticed. And my friend and who
Speaker 2: was helping me with this, She's like, yep, that's how
Speaker 2: it works. That's how it works. They are there, but
Speaker 2: somehow the camera picks them up when your eye does not.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't really surprised that my eye couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2: But that's when I got into the whole idea of
Speaker 2: the third eye in the pineal gland, and that which
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't think really exists. But the
Speaker 2: pineal gland does exist. The third eye is responsible for
Speaker 2: your psychic sensory responses, your psychic vision.
Speaker 1: I want to throw a hypothetical at you real quick,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to have to be really careful how
Speaker 1: I shit it. So let's say, let's say, because uh,
Speaker 1: fluoride calcifies that, right, it does, But I hypothetically.
Speaker 2: Told that, No, hypothetically, Actually they say it does.
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To eliminate fluoride from my diet.
Speaker 1: But what if, let's say, hypothetically, if a nation was
Speaker 1: to get fluoride take florid out of its water supply,
Speaker 1: could that then mean that there could be an uptick
Speaker 1: and a whole lot of big foot sightings? Or Am
Speaker 1: I jumping ahead?
Speaker 2: No, you're not jumping ahead at all. Actually, what is
Speaker 2: going to get into was with the pineal gland, peneal gland,
Speaker 2: however you pronounce it, basically, it's it all goes with
Speaker 2: the whole frequency thing I was talking about. Okay, you
Speaker 2: can't really see anything that you're not a vibrational match two.
Speaker 2: But what the pineal gland does is it opens gradually.
Speaker 2: It doesn't pop open like some people claim it does.
Speaker 2: It doesn't pop open, and it opens gradually. You cannot
Speaker 2: deal with a lot of things that your third eye
Speaker 2: would see. If it just popped open, it might scare
Speaker 2: the crap out of you what you would see. So
Speaker 2: what's happening is the Earth right now is going through
Speaker 2: a area of the galaxy that is higher vibrational. So
Speaker 2: the planet, the entire planet's vibration is rising right now.
Speaker 2: And we're in we were in the third dimension, we're
Speaker 2: now kind of entering into the fourth dimensional densities. It's
Speaker 2: we're kind of moving up. We're not quite to the
Speaker 2: fifth dimension yet, but we're in the fourth. And there's
Speaker 2: if you haven't noticed, there's more paranormal sightings than ever before.
Speaker 2: People are starting to see things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this last year has been nuts. It's i mean
Speaker 1: just think about it, right, Like the whole Miami Mall
Speaker 1: thing whatever that was.
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, stuff like that, all the UFO sidings, I
Speaker 2: mean many many more UFO sidings and all this other stuff,
Speaker 2: and people just basically awakening and all sudden realize no,
Speaker 2: we're being lied to about everything, you know, and that
Speaker 2: kind of awakening is from pineal glands opening, but it's
Speaker 2: partly from us raising collectively to a higher vibration. The
Speaker 2: higher you vibrate, the more that you're going to see,
Speaker 2: the more you start understanding that reality isn't quite what
Speaker 2: it was in third density. So people I've warned for
Speaker 2: years that people are going to start seeing things that
Speaker 2: they never thought existed. And this is the paranormal. You know,
Speaker 2: all the siding, Bigfoot sightings, everything, sightings that are going on.
Speaker 2: There's a reality. There's a plane of reality that we're
Speaker 2: entering into that's a higher vibration. So we're all starting
Speaker 2: to see more. But I was working on this before
Speaker 2: any of this happened to many great degrees, and I
Speaker 2: was starting to understand that between the pineal gland and
Speaker 2: my vibration, trying to keep my vibration high, my experiences
Speaker 2: became more evolved, intense more. There was a different reality
Speaker 2: unfolding for me, and I was starting to understand that
Speaker 2: there was a lot more to everything than what I'd
Speaker 2: ever known before. I mean, I just basically operated like
Speaker 2: any other human on the planet, you know, what's real
Speaker 2: is what I can see. But when you start getting
Speaker 2: up on that higher plane, things start looking different, becomes
Speaker 2: I don't want to say clearer, because Bigfoot is still
Speaker 2: kind of blurry for me, But I feel like that's
Speaker 2: going to They're going to get clearer for me over time.
Speaker 2: And I think that anyone could have that experience if
Speaker 2: their vibration is high. And I don't know that you
Speaker 2: have to meditate all the time to do that like
Speaker 2: I did, but having a higher vibration puts you into
Speaker 2: a totally different reality. And people try to tell me
Speaker 2: that that reality doesn't exist. They try to gaslight me, say,
Speaker 2: you know, you're crazy. They're just an ape. They're just
Speaker 2: a wood ape. There's nothing more to this. But they're
Speaker 2: not having the same experience that I am. They're not
Speaker 2: having the same perceptions of it that I am. They're
Speaker 2: not operating at that higher vibration, they're not meditating for
Speaker 2: two hours a day operating at the higher vibration. They're
Speaker 2: not having the same experience I am. And yet they're
Speaker 2: trying to tell me what I'm seeing and what I'm
Speaker 2: not seeing. And I'm telling you that we can't be
Speaker 2: invalidating people's experiences because with the vibration of the entire
Speaker 2: planet rising, third eyes opening, everyone's opening at a different
Speaker 2: speed because it opens at the level that they can
Speaker 2: understand and handle. It doesn't give you more than you
Speaker 2: can handle, So it's opening at the ratest speed that
Speaker 2: you can deal with, and you will start to see
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying you're going to see Bigfoot in
Speaker 2: your backyard, but you're going to start to see reality
Speaker 2: itself in a totally different way. The weirdest thing that
Speaker 2: came up for me was the elementals, the little beings
Speaker 2: in my bushes in the front yard. It's like you're
Speaker 2: going on in a trip because you're seeing things that
Speaker 2: you never knew were there. It's like these things always
Speaker 2: been here, Yeah, they probably have, but you couldn't see them.
Speaker 2: And big is one of those things.
Speaker 1: So it's so getting interesting. It's because it sounds like
Speaker 1: to me, if I'm hearing it right, is that it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna there's no stopping it. So if we're going
Speaker 1: through a part of the galaxy where stuff is getting
Speaker 1: it's affecting us, then the sightings are going to get
Speaker 1: more and more and more because it's just starting to
Speaker 1: affect everything on the planet. Is that correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm guessing. I don't know this for a fact,
Speaker 2: but I'm guessing that eventually, if we all live long
Speaker 2: enough to see it, we're gonna live. We're gonna be living.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find that we are living side by side
Speaker 2: with many beings that we didn't used to know were there.
Speaker 2: And they've been there the whole time. They haven't heard anything,
Speaker 2: you know, they haven't done any significant damage. The Bigfoot
Speaker 2: are pretty much harmless to us, although I know there
Speaker 2: are bad ones, But basically, the experience I have here
Speaker 2: in town is that they are everywhere. I have dogmen here,
Speaker 2: I have elementals here, these little three foot between three
Speaker 2: and four foot beings I call wild folk. I do
Speaker 2: not know what they are. And then the Bigfoot, but
Speaker 2: I've got I can go down the hill from my house.
Speaker 2: Every morning there's a tee in the road. I go
Speaker 2: down there to the tee. I sit there for a minute,
Speaker 2: and I can see them across the street. Sitting there.
Speaker 2: They're all squatted down a squatting position. I can I'll
Speaker 2: see a bunch of dog men over here, I'll see
Speaker 2: a family of bigfoot over here. I mean, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And I realized that I sound like a lunatic, because
Speaker 2: you have to know what I was like before. I
Speaker 2: was very hell bent on science and logic, you know,
Speaker 2: because I thought the only way to prove to everyone
Speaker 2: that these things exist is we've got to prove all
Speaker 2: this stuff scientifically. And there came a time when I
Speaker 2: just knew that I didn't care anymore whether or not
Speaker 2: I prove they exist or not. I'm talking to you
Speaker 2: on here. I don't care if anybody believes me or not.
Speaker 2: This is the experience that I've had, and this is
Speaker 2: the explanation I'm giving you. The whole vibration thing explains
Speaker 2: why some people see them and some people don't. Some
Speaker 2: people do not vibrationally match the metaphysical experience. If you
Speaker 2: don't believe that they exist metaphysically, which a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't. A lot of people don't, they're never going
Speaker 2: to see one. Now. What the Bigfoot themselves have told
Speaker 2: me is that if someone is meant to have an
Speaker 2: awakening in this lifetime, quite often the Bigfoot will show
Speaker 2: themselves to that person in the physical if that is
Speaker 2: what they need to see. Some people are so stuck
Speaker 2: in logic and science that they have to see something
Speaker 2: in the physical before they'll believe in it, before they'll awaken,
Speaker 2: because you know, a Bigfoot sighting just throws people into
Speaker 2: a tizzy. You know, it's almost like post traumatic stress.
Speaker 2: You know, something they didn't really believe in all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, now they've seen it in the flesh and
Speaker 2: they can't deny it anymore. Right, But the Bigfoot also
Speaker 2: told me that people like me that don't need to
Speaker 2: have that physical experience will have the metaphysical experience of them.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know about empaths very
Speaker 2: much about impaths.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard I've heard the word come up
Speaker 1: in interviews, but let's pretend that I don't, okay.
Speaker 2: Empaths are people who are especially sensitive to stimuli and
Speaker 2: they feel other people's feelings. They kind of like when
Speaker 2: they walk into a room, they can look at everybody
Speaker 2: and tell how they're feeling at that moment. They're highly
Speaker 2: sensitive to energy. There are a lot of empaths. You
Speaker 2: hear more about.
Speaker 1: The subject big for society, who will be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 2: When I was a kid, you never heard the word
Speaker 2: EmPATH ever, but now it keeps coming up, and some
Speaker 2: people are kind of irritated that it keeps coming ups,
Speaker 2: like everybody identifies as an impath. You know, how stupid
Speaker 2: is that. But it's really actually happening for a reason.
Speaker 2: There are more empaths incarnating here right now, and empass
Speaker 2: are just people who are closer to their psychic abilities
Speaker 2: than other people are. That sensitivity that they have that
Speaker 2: they often think is a horrible curse is actually their
Speaker 2: psychic abilities trying to come out. We are actually capable
Speaker 2: of all kinds of psychic abilities, and they're actually coming
Speaker 2: to the surface because of this, because the planet is
Speaker 2: moving into a higher vibrational area of the galaxy. So
Speaker 2: we're starting to wake up and we're starting to find
Speaker 2: out that we're capable of much more than we ever
Speaker 2: thought we were. So the impass are actually just psychics
Speaker 2: in training, and they will more than likely be teaching
Speaker 2: this to others. But the Bigfoot told me that this
Speaker 2: is actually happening for the purpose of awakening, And I
Speaker 2: know it sounds crazy, but they are responsible for helping
Speaker 2: us awaken. I mean, can you imagine anything better to
Speaker 2: wake you up than to see a bigfoot walk across
Speaker 2: your path.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if that doesn't wake you up, then
Speaker 1: you're pretty you're pretty asleep. Does this explain how you
Speaker 1: could have some researchers where for they have done this
Speaker 1: for forty years and they never have any type of
Speaker 1: like visual interaction.
Speaker 2: Right, they haven't. Well, some people could say, I haven't
Speaker 2: had any visual interaction if I haven't seen them in
Speaker 2: the full physical form, which I've seen them pretty close
Speaker 2: to the full physical form. But they think, if you
Speaker 2: haven't seen it in the full physical form, what were
Speaker 2: we talking about? What was the question.
Speaker 1: So I'll just share a little story. I went out
Speaker 1: to Oregon this summer and I went to a place
Speaker 1: in the woods thirty miles out, those well known for
Speaker 1: having visuals, and like crazy stuff happen, right, And so
Speaker 1: I was there multiple times, and sometimes there is a
Speaker 1: person with us that was just like, let me see
Speaker 1: the tracks, I don't care about anything else. Nothing happened.
Speaker 1: But when you had the people there that were like
Speaker 1: totally open to stuff, we were seeing things like people
Speaker 1: communicate with a some sort of fake bird noise that
Speaker 1: would and communication back and forth within half a seconds,
Speaker 1: and like just crazy stuff was happening. So I think
Speaker 1: it depends on what kind of person is present in
Speaker 1: these situations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there are people that can go out, can be
Speaker 2: out in the woods for forty years and swear that
Speaker 2: they've never seen a bigfoot and never nothing weird has
Speaker 2: ever happened, and the rest of us are all crazy.
Speaker 2: It's because they are, like you said, not really open
Speaker 2: to the idea. It's important to be open to the idea. Now,
Speaker 2: a lot of people would say that being open to
Speaker 2: something doesn't make it real, But you know, what you
Speaker 2: experienced that other person does not. And I think we
Speaker 2: need to stop validating people's experiences because what they're seeing,
Speaker 2: what everybody sees, is filtered through their perceptions. Okay, our
Speaker 2: eyes are not what we think they are. They're just lenses.
Speaker 2: They're not telling us anything. They're just lenses like a
Speaker 2: lens on a camera. What actually happens is there's this
Speaker 2: visual cortex on the back of our heads that's actually
Speaker 2: perceiving information, and that information is filtered through our perceptions.
Speaker 2: Like it's based on what kind of experiences we've had
Speaker 2: in life. You know, some people have seen something scary
Speaker 2: in their life and they don't want to see anything
Speaker 2: else that's scary, so they'll block out everything on purpose.
Speaker 2: Their brain is actually doing it because their brain knows
Speaker 2: that they can't handle anything else like that. Some people
Speaker 2: are not capable of handling what's out there. I see
Speaker 2: it all the time, but a lot of people can't
Speaker 2: even begin to entertain the idea that there might be
Speaker 2: this eight to ten foot hairy, monstrous being. And they're
Speaker 2: not monsters by any stretch, but they look monstrous. Can't
Speaker 2: even imagine. They can't even fathom the idea that there
Speaker 2: might be this huge, hairy being right outside watching them.
Speaker 2: And it's even worse if they think they can't see
Speaker 2: this being out there. It's horrifying. Now. I've just gotten
Speaker 2: used to them hanging around. I know they're there. They're
Speaker 2: hanging around, they don't bother anything. The ones that come
Speaker 2: up into my bedroom are kind of looking after me,
Speaker 2: and that's another thing that people can't accept. I've got
Speaker 2: pictures of footprints in my carpet. I keep a particular
Speaker 2: kind of carpet in my bedroom, and they'll leave me
Speaker 2: footprints to let me know they're there. They don't hurt anything,
Speaker 2: and actually I think it's good for them to be
Speaker 2: here because they seem very protective. It's very protective energy.
Speaker 2: But they're walking around in my bedroom at night. I
Speaker 2: hear footsteps. There was a few months ago I had
Speaker 2: a switch in personnel. They switch around the individuals that
Speaker 2: come in. They'll kind of hang out with me every
Speaker 2: night for a while, and then they'll switch to another one. Okay,
Speaker 2: I got another female that was coming in here every night.
Speaker 2: She was new. I hadn't had her in here before.
Speaker 2: Different energy. She had a little baby, and she also
Speaker 2: had a toddler age child with her. Because I was
Speaker 2: finding little tiny footprints and bigger footprints and than her
Speaker 2: footprints which were the full I don't know, fourteen twelve
Speaker 2: to fourteen inches. But anyway, they were coming in here.
Speaker 2: They were fairly new at hanging out here with me,
Speaker 2: and I talked to her. I had a sense of
Speaker 2: what her name was. I had a help from a
Speaker 2: friend who's a psyche that helped me with the name,
Speaker 2: and I knew her name was Sella. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: heard a noise. I heard the floor squeak. I've got
Speaker 2: several spots in the floor that squeak, and I heard
Speaker 2: the floor squeak, and I'm like Sela, is that you?
Speaker 2: And I just told her I was so happy she
Speaker 2: was here. I feel so safe with all of you here,
Speaker 2: and I'm very grateful that you're here. And I was
Speaker 2: talking to her about her kids, which female Bigfoot they
Speaker 2: love their children, Oh my gosh. They are very focused
Speaker 2: on their kids. So if you talk to them about
Speaker 2: their kids, they love it. But anyway, I was, I
Speaker 2: laid down on the bed and I thought, well, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to get any response from her, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I heard the floor squeak right
Speaker 2: beside my bed. Floora doesn't squeak beside my bed unless
Speaker 2: somebody steps there. And it wasn't me stepping there. I
Speaker 2: was laying on the bed, but she stepped in that
Speaker 2: spot to let me know that she was there. I
Speaker 2: can just kind of feel her kind of leaning over
Speaker 2: the bed. But it was a very surreal experience. And
Speaker 2: she's still with me. She's been with me for a while.
Speaker 2: There was only one individual that would actually mine speak
Speaker 2: with me, and that individual is not here right now.
Speaker 2: They have a tendency to communicate with me right now.
Speaker 2: Through thought transference. They transfer ideas over to me, ideas
Speaker 2: that I would never have myself in a million years
Speaker 2: pop into my head. That's thought transference.
Speaker 1: How do you tell the difference between those two things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, since all of a sudden a thought will pop
Speaker 2: into your head and you have no idea where it
Speaker 2: came from, it's not something that you would think on
Speaker 2: your own, that's transference. But anyway, that's how they communicate
Speaker 2: with me at the moment. It could change at any.
Speaker 1: Time, but mind speak would be you hear a totally
Speaker 1: different voice.
Speaker 2: Right. Not only that, not only do you hear a voice,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times telepathy for me is I'll
Speaker 2: be scrolling through social media, YouTube or something like that,
Speaker 2: I will ask a question. I asked the one who
Speaker 2: used to speak to me, Sarah. She was another female.
Speaker 2: I asked her what her mate's name was, because I
Speaker 2: I did not know. She has a very tall mate.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's, you know, twelve feet tall. Anyway,
Speaker 2: I asked her what his name was, and I was
Speaker 2: kind of wondering to myself how she was going to
Speaker 2: tell me this. Sometimes I hear it in my head,
Speaker 2: but this time it was scrolled across YouTube. Of the
Speaker 2: side page of YouTube, it said Stefano. The name Stefano
Speaker 2: came up and I'm like, is that it? And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think that's it. Stefano and uh yeah, that's his name, Stefano.
Speaker 2: That's her mate, and it came up on the screen.
Speaker 2: A lot of it happens a lot that way. I'll
Speaker 2: see a sign as I'm going down the road, That'll
Speaker 2: be my answer. I'll passing the TV and I'll hear
Speaker 2: a phrase come up on the TV. That's my answer.
Speaker 2: Telepathy works in interesting ways, but that's how she would
Speaker 2: communicate with me. I wish she would communicate with me now,
Speaker 2: but there's some reason she won't. She just had a baby,
Speaker 2: I know, and she had a very difficult birth, so
Speaker 2: I think she's recouping. Hopefully she'll talk to me in
Speaker 2: the future. But a lot of times I've been wondering
Speaker 2: if they were still here, and I would ask them
Speaker 2: if they're still here, you know, before I go to
Speaker 2: bed at night, I'm like, are you guys still here?
Speaker 2: I think I can feel you, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: And anyway, they would leave me footprints in places that
Speaker 2: that I don't leave footprints, but you can tell a
Speaker 2: big foot footprint from a human footprint. I have an
Speaker 2: arch foot. They have a very flat foot, and I
Speaker 2: don't run around barefoot. I've broken a toe several times,
Speaker 2: so I don't ever run around barefoot ever hardly. And
Speaker 2: they're the only ones who run around in my room barefoot.
Speaker 2: And I have her footprints and the baby. She'll put
Speaker 2: the baby down. I've had footprints in my closet where
Speaker 2: the kids have been playing in my closet. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just my life is so weird, but they're definitely here.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because you know, the way you look
Speaker 1: at things really plays into it. Because I'm just listening
Speaker 1: to this part, and if we were talking about haunted houses,
Speaker 1: this would be looked at completely different and those type
Speaker 1: of people would be thinking, oh, my house is haunted.
Speaker 1: These random footprints are showing up in my carpet.
Speaker 2: Right. It's okay, here's every house I've ever lived in
Speaker 2: in my life. And I'm sixty one. I have lived
Speaker 2: in a lot of houses in my life, and they've
Speaker 2: all had activity in them, and it wasn't to this one.
Speaker 2: It's like seven, seven or eight years ago. I got
Speaker 2: to this one and I realized that those footsteps down
Speaker 2: there on the floor on the lower level, there's hardwood floors.
Speaker 2: I can always hear footsteps down there when the house
Speaker 2: was quiet, and I'm like, what the heck is that?
Speaker 2: What is walking around this house? Must be haunted. Every
Speaker 2: house I've been to that I've lived in is haunted. Okay,
Speaker 2: now I realize that that probably was not the case.
Speaker 2: It was probably them. They've been with me since I
Speaker 2: was nine years old.
Speaker 1: Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: I have pictures of when I was a kid where
Speaker 2: they're standing right behind me in their metaphysical form, of course,
Speaker 2: But you know, some people will believe it and some
Speaker 2: people won't. But I just I don't like it when
Speaker 2: people invalidate another person's experience. For one thing, one person
Speaker 2: has their third eye more open than another one does.
Speaker 2: Some people will never open their third eye at all.
Speaker 2: They're not they can't deal with what's really there. But
Speaker 2: everyone's having a different experience of them because they're different.
Speaker 2: They're at a different psychic level and their third eye
Speaker 2: is open at a different you know, more open than
Speaker 2: others could.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I just I want I want to
Speaker 1: ask you something and I don't want to miss the question.
Speaker 1: Could this explain how certain people when they're out in
Speaker 1: the woods can hear vocalizations live as opposed to other
Speaker 1: people not hearing them at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about vibration.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Once you realize that everything is about frequency and vibration,
Speaker 2: it all makes perfect sense, all of it. Just like
Speaker 2: just like you're saying, have you ever like you've advanced
Speaker 2: in your life a little bit or you've changed your
Speaker 2: viewpoints about something and you've kind of elevated yourself and
Speaker 2: evolved a little bit, and you realize that certain people
Speaker 2: have just kind of disappeared out of your life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a vibrational thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, Yeah, it's all vibrational. Let's say or let's
Speaker 1: take let's take you for example. You know you were
Speaker 1: you were meditating a few hours a day, trying to
Speaker 1: raise up to a different frequency. How did you know
Speaker 1: that you had gotten to the point where you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've have gotten to what I was the point I
Speaker 1: was trying to get to.
Speaker 2: I as soon as I reached that point, I oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I was starting to think I was meditating
Speaker 2: too much. I was thinking I need to slow this
Speaker 2: down a little bit. What happened was what really hit
Speaker 2: home for me was I went out and took my
Speaker 2: regular walk around the neighborhood. I live in a beautiful
Speaker 2: neighborhood with a creek and woods running through it and everything,
Speaker 2: so it's a nice walk, so I do that fairly often.
Speaker 2: And on one particular night, I was walking and the
Speaker 2: bushes and the trees. Now, oh gosh, this sounds so crazy,
Speaker 2: but the bushes and the trees seemed more alive, like
Speaker 2: there were living beings every where, and I was just
Speaker 2: starting to see what was actually there. It was almost
Speaker 2: like I kind of reached the fifth dimension experience, and
Speaker 2: that might have been what was actually happening. I might
Speaker 2: have meditated myself into kind of a fifth dimensional frequency
Speaker 2: or pretty close to it. But anyway, everything there's so
Speaker 2: many bushes and trees along the creek and everything, and
Speaker 2: I started realizing that it was full of these living beings,
Speaker 2: and I realized that they were all staring at me.
Speaker 2: And it was a very weird walk, but I was fascinated,
Speaker 2: and I was taking pictures of everything, and I was
Speaker 2: just fascinated by the whole thing. But it was just
Speaker 2: so surreal and just weird. I mean, there's probably a
Speaker 2: better word for it, but it was just very strange.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hmm, do I need to meditate less?
Speaker 2: Is this going to be too much for me to handle? Anyway,
Speaker 2: when I got home, I was suddenly aware that there
Speaker 2: were beings in the front landscaping bushes and I was
Speaker 2: looking at them. I was looking at these bushes and
Speaker 2: I could see these little beings I now know to
Speaker 2: be the elementals. They have little kind of bat wing
Speaker 2: ears kind of and they don't hurt anything. They're just
Speaker 2: kind of there. But anyway, they were squeaking at me,
Speaker 2: and I never heard anything before like that. They were squeaking.
Speaker 2: It was like a little bird squeak almost, but it
Speaker 2: was definitely them. And I ran into the other end
Speaker 2: of my porch where there's a big cluster of bushes there,
Speaker 2: and I thought I saw something, but I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: it's something moved and I snapped a picture really quick,
Speaker 2: actually several pictures, And when I went inside and got
Speaker 2: upstairs and I was looking at those pictures, there was
Speaker 2: a little female being that had been sitting there in
Speaker 2: the bushes. I couldn't see her except with the camera.
Speaker 2: She was sitting there in the bushes, and she held
Speaker 2: out her little baby for me to look at. And
Speaker 2: I've noticed all these female beings love their babies, and
Speaker 2: they're always holding them out to show them to me.
Speaker 2: They're just so proud of their babies all the time.
Speaker 2: It's so sweet. But anyway, I took a picture she
Speaker 2: was showing me the baby, and it was pretty clearly
Speaker 2: a like it looked like a bigfoot baby, but she
Speaker 2: was not big enough to be a bigfoot, so I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was a juvenile taking care of
Speaker 2: a baby, like a juvenile female taking care of a baby,
Speaker 2: or what it was. She was showing me the baby,
Speaker 2: and it was a little black, tiny version of a bigfoot,
Speaker 2: was what I saw in this picture. And I took
Speaker 2: another picture and there were two legs. This whole scene
Speaker 2: with the girl and the baby had disappeared, like just
Speaker 2: in a split second, and there were two legs sticking
Speaker 2: out from under a bush and they were the same
Speaker 2: color as the bush. And I was kind of taken
Speaker 2: aback by this whole experience because it was a lot
Speaker 2: more real to me than what had been happening previously.
Speaker 2: And I went inside and I was kind of having
Speaker 2: a moment of PTSD where I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 2: if I can handle all this. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this is going to be too much for me or not.
Speaker 2: And that was, I would say, the moment when I
Speaker 2: realized that I had kind of accomplished what I had
Speaker 2: set out to accomplish. The only problem was I couldn't
Speaker 2: really prove it to anyone. I could show people the picture, okay,
Speaker 2: and the picture is pretty I think it's pretty clear.
Speaker 2: But what I think is clear, other people don't think
Speaker 2: is so clear. That's the problem with the third eye thing.
Speaker 2: I show a picture to someone and it seems clear's
Speaker 2: day to me that all they see is a bush.
Speaker 2: So this is what's frustrating about dealing with this. But
Speaker 2: once you understand vibration and how it all works, how
Speaker 2: reality actually works, it explains a lot of the reasons
Speaker 2: why people are not having the same experience of them
Speaker 2: because all of our minds work differently, and we're all
Speaker 2: at a different level, and we're all operating at a
Speaker 2: different vibration. So it's no wonder nobody's having the same experience,
Speaker 2: and it's leading people to gaslight each other over their experience.
Speaker 2: They're having and I can tell you it's real. But
Speaker 2: real is not what we think it is. It's not
Speaker 2: what we've been taught it is. When people ask me, well,
Speaker 2: people tell me that's not real, I'm like, well, define
Speaker 2: real for me, because I realize that real is the
Speaker 2: definition of real is not what we've been taught. So
Speaker 2: you tell me what you understand to be real, and
Speaker 2: then we'll go from there.
Speaker 1: It's such a it's such a fascinating conversation. Really, if
Speaker 1: you look at the whole picture, do you think this
Speaker 1: could do you think this might explain how there were
Speaker 1: a ton of sightings in the decades of the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 2: The Bigfoot themselves. This is what they told me. And
Speaker 2: now other people have given other explanations because other people
Speaker 2: mind speak with them. But the thing is, every Bigfoot
Speaker 2: has their own perception of events, and every person has
Speaker 2: their their own perception of events. So the story is
Speaker 2: going to be a little bit different, but basically the same.
Speaker 2: They told me that Patty, you know the Patterson Gimlin film,
Speaker 2: the famous Patterson Gimlin film, Patty walked down that dry
Speaker 2: creek bed that day in order to awaken some people.
Speaker 2: Now there was an argument. People have said that she
Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to the other Bigfoot were angry with her.
Speaker 2: She was surrounded by other Bigfoot that day. You can
Speaker 2: look in the woods in the back of some of
Speaker 2: the footage, and they're all over the woods. Anyway, she
Speaker 2: walked down that riverbed and didn't waiver. She looked back
Speaker 2: to see if somebody was looking at her. She walked slowly,
Speaker 2: she walked methodically. She walked with purpose, with no real
Speaker 2: fear all the way down that creek bed. And it
Speaker 2: was because, according to the Bigfoot themselves, that she was
Speaker 2: beginning the Great Awakening, whatever you think about that subject,
Speaker 2: but it was the Bigfoot's attempt. They are collectively trying
Speaker 2: to help the humans wake up because we've all been
Speaker 2: how do I want to put this, We've all been
Speaker 2: oppressed by the same beings on this planet, and they
Speaker 2: have been They've had troubles with the people, if you
Speaker 2: want to call them, people who've been running everything and
Speaker 2: treating everybody terrible. They've treated the Bigfoot pretty terribly. They've
Speaker 2: imprisoned them, they've tortured them, they've killed them. They've done
Speaker 2: everything to them that they've done to us. And the
Speaker 2: Bigfoot are trying to help us awaken because they know
Speaker 2: when we awaken, everything will change on this planet, everything
Speaker 2: will get better. But they can't shock us. They can't
Speaker 2: do it in such a way that is so completely
Speaker 2: shocking that we just shut down. So when she walked
Speaker 2: down that riverbed, she was basically sending a message, we
Speaker 2: really are here, we really exist, and that's all you
Speaker 2: need to know for now, basically. And I can remember
Speaker 2: my mother dragging me into the living room to watch this.
Speaker 2: It was on in search of you remember that old
Speaker 2: show in search of Oh yeah, But anyway, she drug
Speaker 2: me into the living room to show me this because
Speaker 2: she thought I would be interested in this curiously, because
Speaker 2: I was interested in all kinds of stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But the Bigfoot have said that that happened deliberately. That
Speaker 2: event happened deliberately, And a lot of the sightings that
Speaker 2: were full on physical sightings in the early days were
Speaker 2: actually supposed to happen. And when you understand how reality works,
Speaker 2: when you start to study it and you understand how
Speaker 2: reality works, you realize that nothing is random. We live
Speaker 2: in a simulation. Nothing is random. Everything that happens happens
Speaker 2: because it's supposed to happen. How do you know that
Speaker 2: what's happening is supposed to be happening because it's happening.
Speaker 2: Everything is actually supposed to happen the way it does,
Speaker 2: including a bigfoot siding, If you see a bigfoot, it's
Speaker 2: because you were meant to have an awakening of some
Speaker 2: sort in this lifetime. If you see them in the
Speaker 2: physical form, it's because you need to see them in
Speaker 2: the physical form because your mind cannot handle it any
Speaker 2: other way. But like me, they knew that I did
Speaker 2: not need that, even though I have seen them that way.
Speaker 2: But they knew that I could handle the metaphysical. For
Speaker 2: whatever reason, I was capable of handling it, mainly because
Speaker 2: ever since I was really young, I was having that
Speaker 2: metaphysical experience. I just didn't even know that is what
Speaker 2: it was. So if you know, if you're supposed to
Speaker 2: have an awakening in this lifetime, now here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Native Americans, I can't remember which nation it.
Speaker 3: Was, had said that if you see a Sasquatch, it's
Speaker 3: because you are supposed to have an awakening.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to have that experience. They said that long
Speaker 2: before Patty Ever walked down that riverbed. So if you
Speaker 2: see one, it's supposed to happen. Whether it's scared to
Speaker 2: live in daylights out of you and you can't deal
Speaker 2: with it, it was supposed to happen still. But the
Speaker 2: whole metaphysical experience is from what I've been told by then,
Speaker 2: the whole metaphysical experience is to teach us that the
Speaker 2: metaphysical does exist, that reality exists in a different way
Speaker 2: than what we have been taught. We've been taught very
Speaker 2: narrowly about reality. What we can see is what exists,
Speaker 2: and that's all there is to it. There's way more
Speaker 2: to it, but they're trying to show us that. I
Speaker 2: asked Sierra when I talked to I asked her one
Speaker 2: day why people were starting to see them more and
Speaker 2: I met in a metaphysical sense, and she said she
Speaker 2: said this was to assist in third eye opening, which
Speaker 2: was very profound for me. It really set me on
Speaker 2: a path with the third eye and trying to figure
Speaker 2: out everything about that subject that I could. But it
Speaker 2: all plays into the big picture. Everybody's having a different
Speaker 2: experience because everybody's at different psychic levels. For lack of
Speaker 2: a better word, I don't like the word psychic. Maybe
Speaker 2: intuitive is a better word. But that's why everybody's having
Speaker 2: a different experience, and that's why the Bigfoot community is
Speaker 2: full of people constantly arguing about experiences like, oh, that
Speaker 2: can't be. You know, anything can be. I was the
Speaker 2: logic person, logic and science in the beginning, and now
Speaker 2: I am totally crazy to some of my friends, which.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a story though you see repeated so
Speaker 1: many times if you look through the last decades, is
Speaker 1: that people will start in the logical side and then
Speaker 1: something will happen and they will just go totally to
Speaker 1: the other side. It's it's almost like a switch happens.
Speaker 2: It is. Yeah, some people won't ever go there. They'll
Speaker 2: have a weird experience, they'll need something more to it,
Speaker 2: but they won't let themselves go there because they're so
Speaker 2: locked in logic. And this is what I was saying
Speaker 2: in the beginning about logic. They're so locked in their
Speaker 2: logic that they can't go there. They can't really fully
Speaker 2: experience this. And that's why I say logic is really
Speaker 2: kind of tripping us up here, because logic is kind
Speaker 2: of subjective, and you know, whatever we think is logical
Speaker 2: is what we deem to be logical, but I mean,
Speaker 2: who really decides what's logical. We have an idea in
Speaker 2: our heads what's logical, but the next person might have
Speaker 2: a totally different idea of what's logical. So logic kind
Speaker 2: of falls apart the more you pick it, you know,
Speaker 2: the more you pick at it, the more it falls
Speaker 2: apart because it's just way too subjective. Have you ever
Speaker 2: heard the term, like a married couple man logic versus
Speaker 2: woman logic? Logical to a woman is totally illogical. To
Speaker 2: a man, it's logic in a sense they understand it.
Speaker 2: But people have totally different senses of logic as individuals,
Speaker 2: So logic is kind of it really doesn't work. I
Speaker 2: mean when you're really trying to figure out something, if
Speaker 2: you're trying to figure out the real truth of something,
Speaker 2: you kind of have to let go of your idea
Speaker 2: of what's logical. Really, and I've been people have fought
Speaker 2: me tooth and nail on that idea. It is like,
Speaker 2: we have to be logical no matter what, How are
Speaker 2: we going to figure out anything if we're not logical
Speaker 2: about it. I'm like the only way to really find
Speaker 2: the truth is to just kind of let logic go.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should get rid of it. I
Speaker 2: think maybe exercise critical thinking, but that's another subject that's
Speaker 2: kind of you know, everybody's got a different idea of
Speaker 2: what critical thinking is too. So I mean, are we
Speaker 2: going to go where are we going to set rules
Speaker 2: of logic or are we just going to do what
Speaker 2: we've been doing, which is going by our own sense
Speaker 2: of logic which doesn't match up with other people's sense
Speaker 2: of logic? Am I making sense? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. Maybe not everyone listening is
Speaker 1: going to be on board, but I think there's definitely
Speaker 1: every everyone can take different things away from this conversation.
Speaker 1: I think it's there's been some really interesting things said
Speaker 1: in here. So, uh no, I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, I mean we really, if we're ever going
Speaker 2: to really figure out what's what really, what reality really is,
Speaker 2: we kind of have to be open to new ideas
Speaker 2: about everything. I'm not talking about just Bigfoot, but everything.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's wide open in what we can learn
Speaker 2: from it if we just decide that not everything has
Speaker 2: to fit inside this box that we've created, right exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's we're terrible about putting things in boxes. And we
Speaker 2: just stopped doing that. We're going to learn a whole lot.
Speaker 1: Has been uh a fantastic chat with you, and I
Speaker 1: just want to say, I just want to thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on. I am going to ask is there
Speaker 1: a way that people can reach out to you or
Speaker 1: do you prefer to kind of be off to the side,
Speaker 1: because I know people are going to be like, how
Speaker 1: do I get in touch with Drain So that's why
Speaker 1: I'm bringing this up.
Speaker 2: They can reach me on my Facebook page. It's Drain
Speaker 2: Fisher and I don't know of any other Dorain Fisher anywhere,
Speaker 2: so I'm pretty easy to find. I think, Okay, it
Speaker 2: might take me a while because if they message me,
Speaker 2: it might take me a while to find their message
Speaker 2: if they're not actually a friend of mine. So and
Speaker 2: keep in mind, I don't accept all friend requests until
Speaker 2: I've spoken to them, so you know, I'm pretty open.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty friendly person and always willing to talk about
Speaker 2: the subject if I get the message. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: be patient with me if you send me a message.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely well. Thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. I greatly appreciate it and it's been a
Speaker 1: very enjoyable conversation today, Duran.
Speaker 2: All right, I appreciate it, Thank you so much.
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