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Speaker 1: So we've got congregation exes here with us in the studio,

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and I'm gonna turn this board up. So they've got

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they've got a lot of stuff, a lot of this

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is a this is a full room. But we'll we'll see.

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They're gonna they're gonna do a bunch of songs for us,

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gonna do four songs for us. So I'm gonna start

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turning up levels on these and we'll see what we get.

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Hopefully we can hear everybody. Uh, So, you've got a

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mic in front of you. So what's your name?

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Speaker 2: Both, Parish, Parish?

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Speaker 1: What channel is that mic.

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Speaker 2: On this pike? Is on channel one?

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Speaker 1: Channel one, So I'm turn that up. Oh there we go. Okay,

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Oh I can hear you can hear headphones? Yes, all right,

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very good. So and Parish, do you want to since

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you've got a mike, do you want to introduce everybody else?

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So I'm Parish.

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Speaker 4: I am one of the lead vocalists and the keyboard

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player for Congregation X. To my left in the room,

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we have our amazing guitarist Nevin Brown.

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Speaker 1: Hello Nevin.

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Speaker 4: A little further to the left, we have our lead

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lead lead singer Alexandria Bracado.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Alexandria, welcome.

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Speaker 4: And then on the left we have our small square

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Speaker 1: Hi, Jake, welcome.

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Speaker 4: And over on the far left in the room, we

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have the Mandament the Legend Josh Schultz on bass.

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Speaker 1: Josh welcome. This is the first time, by the way,

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that we've ever had an upright bass in the studio,

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so that's very cool. I'm a bass player too, so

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I'm very impressed just to see up close, upright bass. Okay,

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so let's uh, let's make sure we can hear everybody.

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So let's have a little guitar too. Okay, yeah, sounds good,

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sounds good. And Alexandria, where are you where she plugged in?

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Speaker 2: She is on eight, I recall correctly on eight.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and say something, hey, everybody, Oh good, you're

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definitely in the mix. Excellent, excellent, okay, and usually pretty

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much any any mics in the room and picking up drum,

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just just tap that thing a little bit though, just

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make sure we oh yeah, yeah, oh nice. Okay, does

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that have a mic in front of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it has My forty forty seven that should be

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna need it. Yeah, I can already. I

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Speaker 1: What what channel is that on?

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Speaker 2: I think it's on five on five?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if I.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn that one down, we're not gonna need it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, bass is on five. Okay, let's hear a little

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of that bass. Yeah, that sounds nice. That sounds really nice. Okay.

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I think we're I think we're good. Play play a

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little something. Yeah, and let me just see just so

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I know that. Uh, let's do Yeah, this doesn't have

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to count as one of the songs, just part of something.

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So Congregation Acts, if you're just joining us, Congregation Acts

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is here with us live in studio and uh, paris,

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what are you gonna do? You're gonna do your adjusting.

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That's okay, that's all right. You're gonna do four songs

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for us today.

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Speaker 2: We got four songs for you.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I can't hear you for some reason. What channel

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are you in again?

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Speaker 2: I am on channel one Channel one.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, gotcha? I mean I could hear you, you

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just weren't very loud. But and then when I when

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four songs, yep.

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Speaker 4: So this first one we've got is called twenty four hours.

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All right, Alexandria, you want give us a rundown?

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Speaker 2: And what that is?

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Speaker 6: Oh, twenty four hours the first.

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Speaker 7: Song that we ever wrote as a band. It's pretty

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much about having so much love and not enough time

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to you know, extend it out to everywhere you want to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, congregation X live in studio.

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Speaker 6: I've got so much love to get love motion thinking

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on who I am, where I have been so sweet,

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I've fallen down again again. Also that see what it

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is to finally feel so free less time in twenty

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Speaker 3: It just ain't enough.

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Speaker 6: It feels like times against me. If you look close

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to you will see all of these moments passing by.

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Speaker 3: Give me motivation and dry mm hmmm, and all to

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Speaker 6: I want to thank you, yeah for sure for me,

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the way a beautiful lesson every day life is like

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the ocean riding ways.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes I get so tired the end of the day.

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Speaker 6: It comes to face when times seems to kids mere.

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Speaker 3: Gets hard to.

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Speaker 8: Live in love week by week, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: In twenty four hours, it just ain't enough. So thank

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you for all the love you got me through the

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time always got to Yeah we've been through. Oh, I'm

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so grateful you. I'm proud of who I've become.

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Speaker 3: I finally felt where I've been alone. Your love to

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spite me.

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Speaker 6: You want to live my life in love so free.

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Speaker 3: It seems a godless time.

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Speaker 6: Twenty four hours, it just ain't enough, seems a good

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less time, baby.

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Speaker 3: For our was It just ain't love. It just ain't.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was great congregation access here with us alive

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in studio. That was amazing, great job, great, great job. Hey, Wit,

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which channel is that guitar? And again that is.

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Speaker 2: Your channel too, so that would be your microphone.

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Speaker 1: Pull up a little bit. But yeah, no, it sounds great.

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All right, pretty good. What are you gonna play next?

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Speaker 4: So up next we have another song called show You,

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which is one of the early another one of the

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early originals of the band song Okay, I love song

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and it's part of a trio of love songs that

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end in a murder.

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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, ind okay alleged murder.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, fair enough, all right, Congregation X live

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Speaker 6: You want you, you will you.

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Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

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Speaker 6: I really wanna show you.

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Speaker 3: I want to show you what is love with that effect.

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Speaker 6: I want to chieve you ride. You feel so different

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from the re has not but it's so really I

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want to set you free, take you there and come on,

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bake but ten a head. I'll give you sweetness. Say

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you've been missing, You've been spending your whole life helping

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everybody fly. Come over here with abstraction wings, have some.

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Speaker 3: Love to give you a baby.

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Speaker 6: I want to hear you sing, see you dance, make

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you smile, give me the chair.

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Speaker 3: I want to show me all you. Won't you he Oh,

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won't you hear?

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Speaker 6: You've been spending your whole life helping ever everybody's fly.

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Speaker 6: Love to give you baby ah.

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Speaker 3: Hope you understand nasty, the real you.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you what is.

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Speaker 3: I give you sweet this that you been listen.

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Speaker 11: I want to show you.

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Speaker 3: I you want you.

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Speaker 12: Oh w you.

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Speaker 3: Love it when you hold me.

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Speaker 6: I want to show you.

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Speaker 1: Who oh fantastic, fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Matt.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. If you're just joining us, we have congregation acts

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here with us live in studio. Is this unusual to

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do this this early?

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Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit shows?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, you sound great though. You sound great,

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by the way, So where before you play the next one?

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Where should people go to find you online? For people

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who want to keep up with everything that you're doing.

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Speaker 4: So you can find us on Instagram at Congregation X

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and on Facebook at Congregation X. Okay, and that's currently

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where we're available. We will have a website and things

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like that coming out very soon.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh and we have a YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got a lot of stuff on there actually, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We actually recently just played a great show up at

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a hermit Wood's Winery in the Loft and that whole

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice? And you don't have any studio music? Yeah right.

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we're going to be mixing that and releasing it within

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Speaker 1: Oh, congratulations, excellent, thank you. Yeah, you can't wait to

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hear that. Very good, very good. Well I got to

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Congregation X.

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Speaker 2: So it was kind of a working title.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the story, yeah, step up to the mic

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of us met at the Stone Church, New Market, So

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we wanted something that represented that place because.

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Speaker 14: Of special to us.

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Speaker 13: Oh okay, and the X sort of represents our future

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journey because we've pulled together musicians from different styles and

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different backgrounds. Yeah, and it represents the potential of what

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we have that we can do as a group on

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that makes sense. I love it. I love

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Speaker 7: That that and it's what he put. He put in

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the calendar, and eventually we were just like that actually

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really is us?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, big X men?

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Speaker 1: Oh well there all right?

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, our group chat is called X men.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I like it?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 1: Great good? Yeah, all right, you want to play another one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hit it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Congregation X live in studio.

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Speaker 5: Street sign give a green it turning.

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Speaker 15: Silent, Southern Night's split by sirens on the weird.

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Speaker 16: Fun b line glass You guys stand out in the street.

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Speaker 17: All my regrets. It was nothing that I could have

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sid We got down to.

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Speaker 5: The river to wash ourselves clean.

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Speaker 16: If the ice want to to get old and we

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need hope live mind old?

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Speaker 5: You got the trouble you see? Won't you be very going?

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Won't you be even him line?

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Speaker 17: Oh see he's crest you man.

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Speaker 5: Fine the claris in the alley passed through starting when

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Speaker 18: Road laying on the ground last week bur in time treating.

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Speaker 17: We go to the river to wash yourself screen if

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Speaker 19: All lef me?

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Speaker 3: Oh Heaven my hold you for the trouble you see?

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Speaker 5: Won't you be ever?

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Speaker 3: Won't you be ever.

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Speaker 15: Down to the river to wash yourselves clean? And fee

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Speaker 2: Heaven might hold you for the trouble you so? Won't

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Speaker 6: Yourself screen every yes, were you dam secret all that?

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Speaker 3: Oh hell, won't you the trouble you see. Won't you

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be at the day, won't you be at the.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm fantastic, fantastic, Thank you absolutely. Congregation Acts here

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with us live in studio, sounding great. And then so

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you want to do more? You said you want to

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do four?

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Speaker 21: You want?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got one more for you if.

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Speaker 1: You got absolutely absolutely we do. Yes, Congregation Acts is

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with us live in studio and uh yeah, if you

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have a chance to see them live, you definitely want to.

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This is great, This is great, Thank you so much

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having us absolutely glad to do it.

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: What have you got?

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Speaker 21: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Oh oh?

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Speaker 6: This song is called have you ever?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever? Congregation X?

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Speaker 3: Have you love? Standing?

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Speaker 6: Something about you? You carry yourself and that I'm still

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drawn too. I see you, my poinschen, my cheeks kid,

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I am my keet thinking. I bet you could give

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me the right kind of scratch.

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Speaker 3: Have the thought?

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Speaker 6: Can you see what I see?

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Speaker 3: Is your visual clear?

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Speaker 6: Can you feel the electriss city?

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Speaker 22: Do you have a name, because I've just been calling

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you my future.

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Speaker 6: Every time I see your face. So I catch myself

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holding in my bread hoping that you come on over

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to me. Something deliciouss come in your way, baby, if

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you like it, I know that you see the way

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I move. Now I'm next to you. Now there, I

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have got your retention. I put your heart in my attention.

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I would like to spend some time with you long.

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Speaker 3: Not very first babe.

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Speaker 6: Litting in the kitchen at two am, the first time

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kissing says, I figures into love.

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Speaker 3: Don't bad that you come on over to me? Babe.

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I could teach you.

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Speaker 6: So many things, show your other radways to love me

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one here here and apple one o there and bab

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people fly away? You bill walking through my mind? Under it?

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If you're the one? Oh, we're brave enough to thunder?

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Do you think of me like this too? Because we

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just don't know you.

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Speaker 8: You're picking up on the barbe I'm picking up bad.

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We're never run, We're never I'm around you.

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Speaker 3: If you're all in you? If you could read my mom, well,

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whatt you do? Have you ever bad? Some delicious sis?

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Speaker 19: Come?

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Speaker 21: Man?

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Speaker 8: You're way baby, if you let it, I would like

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a spence.

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Speaker 3: With you. Have gotcha attention?

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Speaker 8: Listen, We'll just spensup time with you.

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Speaker 20: Have you have?

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Speaker 3: Have you live?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Incredible incredible congregation acts everybody great job, great job.

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Tell us again, where should people go to keep up

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with everything you're doing?

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Speaker 4: So if you want to keep up with us, you

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want to find us on YouTube, Instagram, or Facebook. Our

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future show announcements first drop on our Instagram, So that's

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a pleace to find us.

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Speaker 1: Really nice. Do you have do you have anything tonight

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for people listening live on Saturday? You got anything tonight

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you want to plug or this week?

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Speaker 4: Well, if you are hanging out at home tonight you

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want to be in a concert sitting at home, We

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have a live show from hermit Wood's Winery right up

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in the loft that you can tune into on our

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YouTube at congregation x oh very and available on the

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hermit Woods Winery YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to be.

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Speaker 4: Able to hang out with a little thing of popcorn

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and you know, not have to go anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Pay for tickets, go ahead and check it out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have some new shows coming up coming

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into September October.

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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, excellent? What time does that start? The live

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stream tonight?

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Speaker 4: The live stream is already done. So the live stream

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it was a live recorded stream, oh say, it was

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a live recorded show.

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Speaker 2: We did like a month or so ago. Oh I

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got you already available?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh okay.

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Speaker 6: In other words, we're taking this month to write some

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new songs to add to.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay list, gotcha, gotcha? Good good, there you go. Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Think of it as like congregation acts on demand.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, very cool. Well, I want to

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thank you all for coming in. This has been amazing.

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You just sound incredible.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Anything absolutely anything we didn't talk about. You want to

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make sure our listeners know they know where to find you,

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they know new album and a couple uh.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right, yes, yes, So we are actually playing a

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summer series show. Let's see, we're gonna be playing one

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in September at the Amp in Barrington. If you follow

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us on Facebook, we'll have information coming out about that.

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And then, oh yeah, there is one sooner we're gonna

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you follow us on Facebook. We're going to have a

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little house show coming up next this month, actually on

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the nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: If you want to come out and see that.

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Speaker 6: Feel free writing songs.

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Speaker 4: In between writing new songs, feel free to follow us

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on Facebook and we can get you some information on

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that and it's going to be a great show. And

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then We will actually be performing at the press room

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this new this November, so we'll be uh if you

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want to come down to Portsmouth and hang out with us,

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we'll have information come out about that very soon.

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Speaker 1: Outstanding, outstanding, all right, congregation X, thank you all five

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of you for being here today. This has been amazing.

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Speaker 33: I'm trying to want to.

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Speaker 32: Change the fall of fly.

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Speaker 20: What some other reasons.

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Speaker 32: Shot shot but we've forgot and you got then it's

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kind of bay shot.

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Speaker 20: That by the odam my black shots.

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Speaker 32: There's nothing we can do but watch can burn.

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Speaker 23: Let's escape the weather may run away for the winter,

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prolong the surfer and and delay the existential by says

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falling in Sapara bel from that old story itself, What

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will remain of us when there's nothing but.

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Speaker 3: Get all fad.

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Speaker 34: Way when it rains sorrow, there's nothing lave ye to

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Fia when fell so much, to fall on last, love

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this grace when.

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Speaker 5: That's nothing, the far to Fia when it's.

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Speaker 23: Since running away enough, Where do we finally say shelter?

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Speaker 3: Your comedy at.

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Speaker 23: Ends to save won't save us this time.

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Speaker 19: The way the chats just got me. Still that's it, vehicles,

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I'll say, Oh it's you. This is your best scale.

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Speaker 20: St all say why web face to bow.

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Speaker 34: That's not fair laugh for you to feel wedding fails,

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the fall?

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Speaker 35: Why's last?

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Speaker 5: Why best place where.

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Speaker 20: To bow?

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Speaker 21: That's not their la part you.

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Speaker 36: To feel websxact made dans ws to.

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Speaker 5: May, sens to thes ws to.

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Speaker 25: Good all fall we it is.

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Speaker 9: Just good.

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Speaker 37: Say West, that's nothing that far sis wes that sofas

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last this last week, that's nothing.

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Speaker 20: That far year serteen.

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Speaker 21: So so.

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Speaker 1: You are listening to w M n H ninety five.

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Speaker 14: Point world premiere.

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Speaker 25: Rocking, Rocking.

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Speaker 38: Am I the image I portrayed, the face you see

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every day, the voices inside my brain, the comfort that

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has the page. I'm not my regrets, my wrath on

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my raise, the mask that shaves the pain. I'm not

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only the worst that I say the antics that I displayed.

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Speaker 5: There's more than my DNA.

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Speaker 38: I'm the smiles, the tears. I'm not the fears that

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honey as I lay awake. I'm not my mistakes. I

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am the steps I must take, the frustrate. I am

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the faith to help me trust faith.

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Speaker 25: I was once a.

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Speaker 38: Bothered clay that what frolic can play, But the.

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Speaker 21: Years have slipped away.

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Speaker 1: I am the light keeps the even in bay.

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Speaker 5: I am the greater high nose.

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Speaker 1: Low vibes to scare you away.

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Speaker 5: I am infinity.

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Speaker 31: I am nothing.

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Speaker 5: I'm the gnomin lees you can't explain. I'm every thought

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you create. I am not the splash that the sin

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of grace.

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Speaker 38: I am every refutake, every moment that escapes.

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Speaker 14: I am contemplation.

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Speaker 38: I'm ever your answer question. I am any possibility. I'm

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at for expanding space. I am a warm embrace. Well

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I vanished with that. A trace is the simulation provided,

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an explanation, or merely your charade?

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Speaker 5: Just the way?

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Speaker 38: Is there new discovery, read over yonder or just a ky?

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Speaker 5: What do I worship?

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Speaker 1: How do I pray?

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Speaker 14: Can you hear me speaking through the solace? What's in

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our way?

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Speaker 39: Basking the glorious Now will it ever stay?

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Speaker 3: What is the meaning?

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Speaker 1: Will we ever know?

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Speaker 5: Are we all one or only alone?

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Speaker 1: Will this ever be our home?

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Speaker 5: Will we witness completion? Will forever be undone? Dad to

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see with south side? Can you predict what's to come?

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Speaker 3: Is it all in vain? If flow away?

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Speaker 38: The alphathe omega everything in between?

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Speaker 20: Do you believe I can't truly.

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Speaker 25: Say I know one thing?

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pizza Pizza Baro.

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Speaker 25: Mine Luigi's Pizza Barren Grille, seven twelve Valley Street, Manchester.

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to enthrall you with its mesmerizing cadence and develop you

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with a symphony of found mornings.

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Speaker 14: Wonder WMNH rip the.

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Speaker 9: Was it easy being greedy?

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Speaker 40: Did it ever cross your mind to think I want?

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Speaker 9: Might be pacing.

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Speaker 40: Waiting on the phone, the ring and you kiss me

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so you miss me. But I can tell you that

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something has changed. There's sadness, calous pain that's driving you away.

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Speaker 41: You breathing now you're leaving it's the last time you

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walked down my door and now was crying in my bedroom?

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Speaker 9: Was it all just something I fell for?

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Speaker 3: Afraid that awake up and just like that, it's all.

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Speaker 9: The man breathing.

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Speaker 3: Fo used to be.

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Speaker 21: This.

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Speaker 22: We're over getting blow, sure, but I still hope you

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think about all the good times in the late nights

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walking through that old beach town got up under. If

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your murther ever asks about how I'm doing now?

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Speaker 3: Is she happy?

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Speaker 20: Are you happy?

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Speaker 9: You're feeling like the big man.

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Speaker 20: Now pleading my feelings.

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Speaker 11: Because the last time you walked down my norse was

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crying in my bedroom.

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Speaker 3: Put it up just something of belt for braying singing,

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just sign that I never be.

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Speaker 20: What easy great across your heart?

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Speaker 21: Lea.

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Speaker 3: Was it easy to love me?

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Speaker 9: Was it easy to touch me? Was it easy to leave.

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Speaker 19: Me?

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Speaker 1: That is catchy as hell, That is greedy. That's the

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name of the track. That is Cammy next, and we're

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going to talk with Cammy in just a moment. Welcome everybody.

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This is Matt Connorton Unleashed. We have entered our number

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three New Marrow Trace on this Saturday, July five, twenty

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twenty five. Thank you all for joining us, and Jenny

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is here, of course, is at the news table, presentent

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accounted for. I think I almost at news Desko seeing

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old school. It's a table and uh let's see Campy here.

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Bring Cammy on here, Cammy, are you there?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm here, Welcome to the program. We just started

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using Google teams recently, so it's still a little bit

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of an adventure.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I'm always relieved when the guest is connected and

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everything's good. Welcome to the show. I love that song, Greedy,

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It's very very catchy.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. Uh So, where are you from?

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Speaker 9: Columbus, Ohio? But I live in Nashville?

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Speaker 1: Now, okay, okay, what's it like living in Nashville? Because

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you know, we've had we've had a lot of guests

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on the show who have traveled there, but you know,

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maybe to spend a weekend or a week there. But

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I don't think we've had anybody on the show who

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lives there currently. And obviously Nashville known for being for music.

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I mean, is is it a lot of pressure there

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living there and being a part of the scene there

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or what's that like?

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Speaker 9: It is definitely interesting. There's a lot of pressure, but

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more so I just say, it's very saturated, so it's

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really really difficult to get your foot in the door.

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But at the same time, because it's so saturated, there's

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so many people to work with and so many people

712
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to network with. Yeah, and it's such a good community

713
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:52,199
of people, but it is very tricky to kind of

714
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,480
get going and get a name for yourself.

715
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would imagine. I would imagine it is. But

716
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,840
that's that's a great place to be for what you're doing,

717
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:03,280
and it's it might cut against some of the ideas

718
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,599
some of the preconceptions too, that people have about Nashville,

719
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:08,639
because you know, a lot of people when they hear Nashville,

720
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,320
especially people not in the industry, they think of country music.

721
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,800
But it's more than just country music. And obviously, you know,

722
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,000
what you're doing is in country. I don't know if

723
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,119
you have any country songs, but but really, I mean

724
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:21,000
there's all kinds of music happening there, and there's all

725
01:00:21,079 --> 01:00:23,440
kinds of connections you can make and people to work with, right.

726
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I think it has the stigma that it's

727
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,280
country music because that's what it started as. But it's

728
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,039
really any and every genre. And it is more so

729
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,159
just the music city, as people call it, and this

730
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,960
is where everyone comes to record, even non country people.

731
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480
They all record in the studios here or work with

732
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:48,039
people here, or have session players from Nashville because these

733
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:51,000
people are very talented and they can play any genre.

734
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:54,920
They can do anything. So yeah, it's it's any genre really.

735
01:00:55,239 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely. How long have you lived there?

736
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,199
Speaker 9: This is my sixth year living here.

737
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:03,519
Speaker 1: Oh leave, Oh you've been there a long time? Okay, great? Great?

738
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,199
Speaker 9: Yeah, I went to college here, So I moved when

739
01:01:07,239 --> 01:01:08,000
I was seventeen.

740
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: Oh outstanding? Okay? Was greedy? Was that recorded there?

741
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 28: It was?

742
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:14,679
Speaker 15: Yeah?

743
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, very cool. Now what about so you started

744
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:23,280
pretty young? I would imagine you're from Ohio. Originally you said, right, yes,

745
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:27,400
Were you involved in music before moving to Nashville? I assume,

746
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:28,960
I mean, I know you moved there for school, but

747
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,039
growing up you said, was a Columbus Ohio?

748
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:36,199
Speaker 9: You said, yeah, Columbus, Ohio. I grew up there and

749
01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:40,920
was definitely involved in music and specifically musical theater. I

750
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:42,719
did a lot of that as a kid, in like

751
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:47,199
growing up and in all throughout my life. In high school, everything.

752
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,039
I was known as like the musical kid in my town,

753
01:01:50,199 --> 01:01:53,199
and I ran all the music programs. I was the

754
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,239
president of all these different choirs and small ensembles, and

755
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,760
I did all the community theater shows and this, that

756
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,239
and the other. So I was definitely musically inclined from

757
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,159
a very young age and that just kind of became

758
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,519
my thing. And I didn't really do sports. It was

759
01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:13,840
always just music, and so I made the decision to

760
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,440
Originally I was going to go to college for musical

761
01:02:16,519 --> 01:02:19,400
theater because I thought that I liked that, But I

762
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:23,119
then quickly realized I just liked the singing part of it.

763
01:02:23,199 --> 01:02:25,800
I didn't care about the acting or the dancing. I

764
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,000
just wanted some like someplace to sing in front of people. Sure,

765
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,159
so then I pivoted and moved to Nashville to do music.

766
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,559
Speaker 1: No, that makes sense, but yeah, I mean doing music

767
01:02:35,639 --> 01:02:39,239
that was clearly inevitable, you know, given your background and

768
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,599
everything that you did growing up. So so's that's great?

769
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:43,519
Speaker 40: Now?

770
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: How many? So you have several singles out? I know,

771
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:48,679
have you have you recorded an album or an EP

772
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:50,800
yet or is that on your radar?

773
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,679
Speaker 9: It's not currently on my radar. I have four singles

774
01:02:55,719 --> 01:02:58,960
out right now, and I'm kind of just writing the

775
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:04,880
singles because I think as a smaller, independent artist, it's

776
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,239
pretty difficult to put out an EP or an album

777
01:03:08,519 --> 01:03:12,079
and expect people to listen to the whole thing. Yeah,

778
01:03:12,159 --> 01:03:14,800
because that's a lot easier when you have a big

779
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,880
following and people want to sit down and listen to it.

780
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,320
But I would rather create singles and put them out

781
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,159
one at a time and give them a bunch of

782
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:25,320
attention or as much as I can, and that way

783
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,320
they get kind of the spotlight for a second, rather

784
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,519
than putting out like a forty five minute long album

785
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,840
and hoping that people will listen to it.

786
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:37,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that makes sense. It's a lot of

787
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,519
artists it's very important to them to do albums. But

788
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,440
there's I don't remember who it was we were talking

789
01:03:43,519 --> 01:03:45,000
to about this, but we had a guest on the

790
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:48,719
show recently talking about how when you put out an album,

791
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,119
it's like, you know, in terms of algorithms, like on Spotify,

792
01:03:53,239 --> 01:03:56,480
for example, you get that initial boost of okay, here's

793
01:03:56,519 --> 01:03:59,320
something new. You know, it might show up in your suggestions,

794
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,679
here's something you like, whether it be Spotify or even

795
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:05,159
on YouTube or wherever. But but you get that big bump,

796
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:07,360
that little not even a big bump, but you get

797
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,880
that little extra push once with the album and then

798
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,840
that's it. Whereas if you just release a series of singles,

799
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,519
with every single, you get that little push algorithmically speaking,

800
01:04:19,639 --> 01:04:22,519
and and so that ends up being a little bit

801
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:27,639
of a more sustainable strategy. Although some of the guests

802
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:29,280
too that we've had on the show recently, they've kind

803
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,400
of inverted, you know, because the old approach, you know,

804
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:34,800
sort of pre internet, was you release an album and

805
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,559
then a series of singles to radio. And some artists

806
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:40,159
now they release a series of singles that eventually coalesce

807
01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:44,159
into an album or any exactly. Yeah, but what you're doing,

808
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,679
I think that's.

809
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:48,039
Speaker 9: More than norm I think now as people putting out

810
01:04:48,079 --> 01:04:50,800
singles and then they release like an EP, but it's

811
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,639
just all of the singles they've already put out.

812
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now in terms of you, uh, in

813
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,400
terms of your songs, the songs that you've put out,

814
01:04:59,519 --> 01:05:02,039
are these written by you or do you have I'm

815
01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:05,599
really curious about this, especially given where you are geographically,

816
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:08,920
because you have so many you know, you're just surrounded

817
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,800
by all kinds of talent. So I'm curious about your

818
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,599
process and who you collaborate with, or maybe you do

819
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:16,599
it all your own. I don't know, but I'm really

820
01:05:16,639 --> 01:05:17,239
interested in that.

821
01:05:18,679 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I write all of my own songs that are

822
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:26,280
currently out. I've some of them have co writers on them,

823
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,000
so people that I worked with, but a few of

824
01:05:30,119 --> 01:05:33,639
them were fully just written by me. Start to finish,

825
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,280
and then I have a recording studio in town. There's

826
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,599
two producers there that I work with, and I bring

827
01:05:41,719 --> 01:05:44,199
them my songs, play it for them and see what

828
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,239
they think, and then they help me bring it to

829
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,800
life and make it what it ends up being. And

830
01:05:49,519 --> 01:05:53,000
we do everything in house. It's all real instruments, like

831
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:56,559
we play. It's the two guys and then myself. I

832
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:59,519
play a few instruments, and so we between the three

833
01:05:59,559 --> 01:06:02,119
of us can play every instrument that we need for

834
01:06:02,199 --> 01:06:06,000
the track. We record it live and have real instruments,

835
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:10,000
real players, everything, and then they mix and master it

836
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:13,000
for me. And that's kind of been our process for

837
01:06:13,079 --> 01:06:17,079
a while. However, I have a single coming out in August,

838
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,559
and it's the first time I'm releasing a song that

839
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:24,119
I had no part in writing. I took a cut

840
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:27,840
from some friends that I have that are professional songwriters,

841
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,559
and I kind of started to explore this idea of

842
01:06:32,159 --> 01:06:35,079
I don't have to do everything myself. I can just

843
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,239
be the artist or just be the performer. And there

844
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,039
are many talented songwriters here, obviously, and that's what people

845
01:06:43,119 --> 01:06:47,559
in the real industry do. These huge famous people are

846
01:06:47,639 --> 01:06:51,719
not writing their songs themselves. They have ten fifteen people

847
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:54,039
helping them write songs, or they don't even write them

848
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:58,199
at all, and they get these cuts from very talented songwriters.

849
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,639
So I tried that out and I really liked how

850
01:07:01,679 --> 01:07:04,719
the song turned out. So my next single is fully

851
01:07:05,719 --> 01:07:07,079
just written by other people.

852
01:07:07,519 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting? Was it hard to take that step? I mean,

853
01:07:11,679 --> 01:07:15,039
was that something did you? Did you go into that

854
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:18,639
saying no, maybe I will try this and see what happens.

855
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,199
Or was it more like, like, did you have to

856
01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:22,360
be kind of coaxed into it? Because that's got to

857
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,639
be because that's a big shift, right because, like you said,

858
01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:27,119
you were used to doing everything yourself, which gives you

859
01:07:27,159 --> 01:07:29,719
a lot of autonomy and control over your material, and

860
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,119
to take that step and do something that someone else wrote,

861
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,960
was that difficult? Or did it? Did it come naturally

862
01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:36,800
or what was that like?

863
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,639
Speaker 9: I think it really came naturally. It was my idea.

864
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,679
I kind of put feelers out and let people in

865
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,840
the industry know, hey, I'm open to cuts. If you

866
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,599
have songs that you aren't going to cut or you

867
01:07:49,639 --> 01:07:52,239
don't have anybody to cut them, send them not my way,

868
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,960
and I'll listen to them and if they fit my vibe,

869
01:07:56,519 --> 01:07:59,760
my overall kind of genre that I'm building for my

870
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:03,920
and I took them to my producers too, and we

871
01:08:04,039 --> 01:08:06,440
kind of listened to them together because they know my style,

872
01:08:07,079 --> 01:08:10,480
and we decided which ones fit me, which ones didn't

873
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:13,039
fit me, and then narrowed it down to the song

874
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:17,319
that's gonna come out. And I honestly think it wasn't

875
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:20,319
that difficult because I grew up my whole life obviously

876
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,960
doing theater, and I was in lots of cover bands

877
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,880
and things like that, so I grew up singing other

878
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:30,199
people's songs my whole life. It really wasn't that different.

879
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,439
And if it's a good song at the end of

880
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,520
the day, I think that's all that matters. And yeah,

881
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,359
it wasn't. It really wasn't a hard process.

882
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 21: It was.

883
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 9: It kind of made it more enjoyable because I wasn't

884
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:45,960
scrutinizing it as much as if it were my own songwriting.

885
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,960
I'm much more like, oh does this sound stupid? I

886
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:52,520
wrote this, these words are probably dumb, But since somebody

887
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,159
else wrote it and I very much enjoyed their songwriting already,

888
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:00,199
I just sang it and liked it from the start.

889
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: That makes sense. So it sounds like it was kind

890
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,600
of liberating in a way. Yeah, yeah, well that's very cool.

891
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,760
You mentioned too, So I noticed you went out of

892
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,399
your way to put extra emphasis on talking about how

893
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:16,439
everything that you do it's played by real people, real musicians.

894
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,960
And it makes me curious because one of the things

895
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,119
that we talk about on the show a lot, because

896
01:09:21,159 --> 01:09:23,760
we have a lot of sort of industry centric shall

897
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,279
we say, uh, conversations on the show, is we talk

898
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,399
a lot about AI, the use of AI and music

899
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,600
and whatnot. And I'm curious. I suspect based on what

900
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:38,159
you've said that this might be something that you're concerned about,

901
01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:41,960
So I'd like to get your thoughts on that, or

902
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,880
maybe there's another dimension to it. But I'm really interested because,

903
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:46,680
like I said, you went out of your way to

904
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,640
tell us you know, this is all real, so obviously

905
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:53,399
there's no none of these parts were created by AI

906
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,319
and any of your songs. So I'm curious if you

907
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:57,359
have if you have further thoughts on that that you

908
01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,039
like to share.

909
01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:03,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's because my kind of stance on that started

910
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:08,239
even before AI kind of joined the picture. I was

911
01:10:08,359 --> 01:10:12,800
always looking for what my niche was in the industry,

912
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,199
Like I think everybody has their thing that makes them

913
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:20,560
unique and their genre or it's their sound or this,

914
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,880
that and the other. And I realized that I think

915
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,880
what makes me unique is that our music is very commercial.

916
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:35,560
It's very commercially successful, but it's all real. And in

917
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:39,920
today's day, most music is not real. It's all done digitally,

918
01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:44,239
or it can be done digitally. And I went to

919
01:10:44,359 --> 01:10:47,279
college here and there were so many people at my

920
01:10:47,399 --> 01:10:50,680
school who made full songs in their dorm rooms on

921
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,800
their laptop and you would never know that they, you know,

922
01:10:54,119 --> 01:10:57,319
did it by themselves at midnight, just on their computer.

923
01:10:58,079 --> 01:11:02,239
And I wanted something that made us stand out. And

924
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:05,720
I realized, like, hey, we play all of this for real,

925
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,560
and I don't think a lot of people do that,

926
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,520
and I think that's something we should emphasize and tell

927
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,760
people is like this is real. Like this there's someone

928
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,840
sitting there actually playing the drums. Every single beat that

929
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,479
you hear. He played it, and that's impressive. And I

930
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,199
went to school with so many talented musicians, and I

931
01:11:23,399 --> 01:11:26,800
was starting to realize these people like won't be needed

932
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,720
if we continue down this path. And I think there's

933
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:36,199
something special about someone actually playing it, and especially live.

934
01:11:36,359 --> 01:11:38,520
You can't have a live show if someone's not actually

935
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:43,199
playing the instrument, you know. And now it's turned to

936
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:48,479
AI and it is insane what they can do and make,

937
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:51,640
you know, a whole song or parts of a song.

938
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,119
So yeah, that's kind of become my shtick and my

939
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,159
Niche is saying like, hey, this is real, so just

940
01:11:59,239 --> 01:12:01,840
keep that and consideration when you're listening to it, Like

941
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,359
some guy sat down and played every note on that

942
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,720
guitar that you're hearing. So I think that deserves some

943
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,439
it deserves to be shouted out and you know, yeah,

944
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:13,159
get the credit.

945
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,359
Speaker 1: And so even the drums are live.

946
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 9: The drums are live, the bass, the guitar, everything. We

947
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:24,680
usually stack it from the bottom, so he'll will record

948
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,880
the drums first and he does that fully with no

949
01:12:28,039 --> 01:12:30,720
other instruments, like he sits down and will play the

950
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,960
entire song from start to finish, just on the drums

951
01:12:34,159 --> 01:12:37,720
and with a really crappy demo that we made, and

952
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,000
he can pull out an entire song on the drums

953
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:42,920
and then we build it from the bottom up. So

954
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:43,880
bass guitar.

955
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's great, and that's you know, that's how

956
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,239
it used to always be done. Although the reason I

957
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:53,000
asked Sid about the drums specifically is because I've been

958
01:12:53,079 --> 01:12:57,800
surprised at various points when you know, even even stuff

959
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,159
that was recorded in the eighties that I assumed, you know,

960
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,399
just you know, hard rock songs that you know, a

961
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,159
little research and I learned that, you know, this was

962
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:11,720
pre AI, but obviously this was you know, we're talking

963
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,520
about eighties even early nineties rock where it's like, oh no,

964
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,800
they actually did that with a with a drum machine.

965
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,520
Those weren't real drums, and it's like, wow, that's uh,

966
01:13:22,039 --> 01:13:23,840
you know, it's kind of impressive in a way that

967
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,119
they were able to create something so real. But at

968
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:29,800
the same time, it's like sometimes it's sometimes if you

969
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,960
do a little digging, you'll be really surprised at how

970
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:35,880
much was was not real drums. Yeah, and of course

971
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,039
now you can do that with everything. Yeah, yeah, it is.

972
01:13:39,319 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 9: I think it is insane. You know, you would assume

973
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,800
those things were all real, But yeah, drum machines were

974
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,960
huge in the eighties. So a lot of those songs

975
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:51,640
are just programmed and we play everything live maybe here

976
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,039
and there they'll get he well, actually, I mean we

977
01:13:54,199 --> 01:13:57,680
use samples, but they're samples that they'll make themselves. So yeah,

978
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,239
if a tom that he hit during the track wasn't

979
01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:04,399
strong enough, he'll go hit the tom one time, take

980
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,720
that recording and put it right over the one that

981
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,079
maybe he flubbed a little bit, so it's still him

982
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:12,960
playing it. But oh yeah, yeah, that's how you like

983
01:14:13,279 --> 01:14:15,439
have to really fix stuff if it's real, you know.

984
01:14:16,039 --> 01:14:18,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta do overdubs. I mean there's

985
01:14:18,279 --> 01:14:22,279
no get there's no getting it. Yeah, absolutely, but that's

986
01:14:22,359 --> 01:14:25,640
just that's just part of the process. Has it been

987
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,680
so has it been done that way with every all

988
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:29,720
of the singles that you've released, it's all been done

989
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:30,640
done that same way.

990
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 9: Yes, everything I have out is real.

991
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: That's great.

992
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of we It kind of started that

993
01:14:40,039 --> 01:14:44,039
way on accident, and then I started telling people, Hey,

994
01:14:44,119 --> 01:14:46,800
this song is real, and then we were like, well,

995
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,680
if we're going to keep putting out songs, maybe we

996
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,560
should do them all like that and that way they

997
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,720
kind of have a cohesive sound. But then also we

998
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,119
can continue to tell people and showcase like this is real,

999
01:14:57,239 --> 01:14:59,680
Like these are real people that are have years of

1000
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,239
training and talent that they can showcase.

1001
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, no, I think that's great. And then what's

1002
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:08,720
the live situation? Like are you playing these songs out?

1003
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,600
Do you play out a lot? Obviously there's a lot

1004
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,199
of I know, there's a lot of places to play

1005
01:15:13,239 --> 01:15:16,359
in Nashville, but it's also probably pretty crowded in some ways.

1006
01:15:16,399 --> 01:15:19,840
But what's that like as far as the live scene

1007
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,960
and do you get out and tour or how are

1008
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:22,520
you doing with that?

1009
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 9: I this is my third summer that I am playing.

1010
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:32,600
I primarily play in the summers just because winter kind

1011
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,920
of slows down a little bit and I use that

1012
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,000
time more so for recording and writing and getting stuff

1013
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:44,119
ready to release and Whatnotah. And like I said, I'm

1014
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:48,239
from Columbus, Ohio. All of my family still lives there,

1015
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:51,560
Like every single family member lives there. All of my

1016
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,319
old friends from high school and before all still live there,

1017
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,439
so I visit there very frequently. I've built a good

1018
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,760
community of people and kind of a following back there,

1019
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,920
and so I go back there very very frequently and

1020
01:16:09,039 --> 01:16:13,880
play festivals and fairs in the surrounding area. Just because

1021
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,359
I've created a good community and I have lots of

1022
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,560
good contacts back there, that it's easier or it's gotten

1023
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,199
easier for me to get my foot in the door

1024
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,840
there rather than here. So yes, I play all my

1025
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,600
songs there and it's so much fun. I have a

1026
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,960
band that lives in Columbus, so I just go there

1027
01:16:34,079 --> 01:16:36,239
and they're ready for me. They practice on their own

1028
01:16:36,319 --> 01:16:38,920
and we kind of just show up and rip it,

1029
01:16:39,079 --> 01:16:41,800
and then I head back to Nashville and work on

1030
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:46,159
stuff and then go back there. I definitely love to

1031
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:50,319
expand get out of just playing in Ohio. I've played

1032
01:16:50,359 --> 01:16:54,000
in Nashville a handful of times, but it's really not

1033
01:16:54,199 --> 01:16:58,520
that fun because it's so saturated. It's just not the

1034
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,840
same energy as going to Columbus, and the people there

1035
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,039
are like, oh my gosh, this is incredible music, like

1036
01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:08,560
thank you so much for playing for us, or this

1037
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,760
is people actually stand up and are singing along and

1038
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:13,840
these people have no idea who I am, but they'll

1039
01:17:14,359 --> 01:17:19,760
really get into it. So trying to expand, but it's

1040
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:20,760
one step at a time.

1041
01:17:21,239 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah no, that's really cool. That's really cool. Have you

1042
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,520
done any videos for these songs?

1043
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 9: I have one video out? Actually, I have a couple out.

1044
01:17:32,039 --> 01:17:35,319
I love making videos. I love every once in a while,

1045
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,319
I vlog like our shows that we go to. So

1046
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,359
when we play at festivals and whatnot, I'll bring a

1047
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:44,439
camera or a guy that will come in video kind

1048
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,039
of the whole process because it's just fun to have

1049
01:17:47,239 --> 01:17:49,960
for memories. But then it also turns into like a

1050
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,319
fun little video for people to see what we do

1051
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,079
and what it's like to go play. And honestly, I

1052
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:02,119
started reaching out to radio stations because it seemed like

1053
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,439
a good way for me to kind of talk to

1054
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,840
people that weren't in Tennessee or Ohio. It is a

1055
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,560
way for me to kind of get myself started in

1056
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:15,359
new places.

1057
01:18:16,399 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely so. Now what's the uh so

1058
01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:24,000
the single Greedy Now that's been out a couple months.

1059
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,159
Speaker 9: Yeah, it came out in April.

1060
01:18:26,399 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: Okay, now you're working on the next one already? Or

1061
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,279
are you are you focusing on uh more on other

1062
01:18:32,399 --> 01:18:35,880
things or what's like, what what's the current uh trajectory?

1063
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,640
Because you did mention that other one.

1064
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:44,359
Speaker 9: That Yes, yeah, I have a song. It's called su

1065
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,680
Venirs and it comes out August first, and that's the

1066
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,000
one that was not written by me. We're just kind

1067
01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:51,199
of trying something new out.

1068
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Okay, is that that one's all all recorded and ready

1069
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:55,279
coming out?

1070
01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 9: It's done. Yeah, it's up, it's uploaded, so it's kind

1071
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:05,239
of just sitting there waiting to come out. So yeah,

1072
01:19:05,359 --> 01:19:09,000
that'll be the next one, and we're starting. Actually, funny enough,

1073
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:12,880
we took a pause on making my music and we

1074
01:19:13,119 --> 01:19:17,079
really want to do like a fun Christmas song in

1075
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,960
obviously like November December, but you have to start them

1076
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:24,520
so early, so we're starting a Christmas song next week.

1077
01:19:26,079 --> 01:19:28,399
So we kind of took a pause. This other song

1078
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,840
will come out, and while that one is being processed

1079
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,239
and coming out, we're working on a Christmas song to

1080
01:19:34,319 --> 01:19:37,079
do later and then we'll get back to the normal stuff.

1081
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool, But Souvenirs August first, you said.

1082
01:19:41,319 --> 01:19:46,239
Speaker 42: Right, August first, Yes, very cool, excellent, excellent, Yeah, be

1083
01:19:46,319 --> 01:19:48,439
sure to be sure to sound that to us too,

1084
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,800
you know, we'll spin it here. Absolutely definitely, I will

1085
01:19:52,079 --> 01:19:55,680
absolutely absolutely Now, where should people go online to keep

1086
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:56,800
up with everything that you're doing.

1087
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 1: Where's the best place to go?

1088
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:03,359
Speaker 9: Yeah, I I would say probably Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, all

1089
01:20:03,399 --> 01:20:07,800
those places I post every day. Yeah, my name's the

1090
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,079
Cammi Knicks T A G, C, A, M I N

1091
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:15,399
y X. And then I also have a website, the

1092
01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,760
Kammiinex dot com. Yes, and yeah, I post everything kind

1093
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,840
of all over those places, just what I'm doing and

1094
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,680
where I'm playing and what's coming out and yeah, very good,

1095
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,000
very good.

1096
01:20:27,079 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I encourage everyone to follow you, keep track of

1097
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,479
what you're doing as you're releasing new music. And I

1098
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,640
was thinking, so we'll let you go in a moment, Cammy,

1099
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,239
But I was thinking about ending the segment. You know,

1100
01:20:36,319 --> 01:20:38,680
we played ready to Open Up. I was thinking about

1101
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,920
ending with this track good Things, which is also very catchy.

1102
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:44,720
I really like this a lot. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely so,

1103
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:46,960
I was thinking, well, we'll close out the segment with this,

1104
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,640
but yeah, thank you so much for joining us today.

1105
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,319
Are you in Nashville right now? Is that where you're

1106
01:20:51,359 --> 01:20:52,079
joining us from?

1107
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 9: Yes, I'm calling in from Nashville. I'll be here for

1108
01:20:56,199 --> 01:20:57,880
I think two more weeks and then I have a

1109
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,760
show the third week of July back in Ohio, so

1110
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:06,000
I'll be heading out there, yeah, and then back back

1111
01:21:06,039 --> 01:21:06,279
to it.

1112
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: Oh, very cool, very cool. All right, well, Cammy, I

1113
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,439
appreciate you joining us today. We'll let you go. I'm

1114
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,720
gonna hit this track, good Things, but Cammy Knicks, thank

1115
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,600
you so much, Thank you so much. You got it.

1116
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,119
We'll talk to you soon. Bye bye bye. All right,

1117
01:21:21,279 --> 01:21:23,920
very good. That was Cammy Knicks. And if you're wondering

1118
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,880
how to spell her last name, it's n y X.

1119
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,520
And let's give this a spin. This is called good Things,

1120
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,199
another great track from Cammy Knicks.

1121
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:44,319
Speaker 43: How do I put it? Tried but I couldn't once

1122
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:51,039
was the answer. Oh he's a stranger, lef with a.

1123
01:21:51,199 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 5: Thatt go.

1124
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:58,119
Speaker 9: Loved with my eyes closed, kiss like aod.

1125
01:21:58,079 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 40: Devil, heard temperamental.

1126
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 41: I knew he'd break my heart. Should have loved him

1127
01:22:08,159 --> 01:22:09,279
from the start.

1128
01:22:10,279 --> 01:22:10,840
Speaker 25: Is it true?

1129
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:13,520
Speaker 3: All good things for love?

1130
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 20: Pard? Is it good?

1131
01:22:17,119 --> 01:22:18,239
Speaker 3: Or is it bad?

1132
01:22:19,079 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 20: House?

1133
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 41: Never gave inside rama heart made him look easy that.

1134
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:31,319
Speaker 11: You never thought that happy smile and driving turn fine

1135
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:33,560
Ryan never.

1136
01:22:33,239 --> 01:22:34,600
Speaker 3: A crossed my mind.

1137
01:22:35,359 --> 01:22:40,359
Speaker 41: Always said that I loved blue, but jealous looks good

1138
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:40,880
on you.

1139
01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:47,159
Speaker 9: That's face is funny. Fools would have judged me.

1140
01:22:49,079 --> 01:22:49,239
Speaker 23: Art.

1141
01:22:49,279 --> 01:22:54,239
Speaker 9: He was honest, the boy was I'm modest.

1142
01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 5: Art.

1143
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 3: It was true love.

1144
01:22:58,399 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 9: What the hell's true?

1145
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:03,159
Speaker 3: A boy full of secrets?

1146
01:23:04,319 --> 01:23:06,239
Speaker 9: EPI said I would keep them.

1147
01:23:08,079 --> 01:23:13,399
Speaker 11: I knew it's pregnant. Should have funded from the start.

1148
01:23:14,279 --> 01:23:21,760
Now I know that's good. Next, is that good that

1149
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:27,840
I must snap in? How far they look?

1150
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 14: Easy?

1151
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:30,199
Speaker 5: That jo but.

1152
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 20: It's silence trying to do it cross not fine.

1153
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 11: Always said that on a blue jasay, let's get on you.

1154
01:23:57,239 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 3: Go, don't stuck the shot back And now seems so.

1155
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 20: Calm and Cris.

1156
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 3: Never even blinks.

1157
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:12,720
Speaker 32: Is it good?

1158
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 3: Or is it that you I ever had? Don't know

1159
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:20,680
who I even know?

1160
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:26,520
Speaker 43: Only go so don man, I'm kidding?

1161
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,359
Speaker 32: Is that good?

1162
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:35,319
Speaker 11: Is it that I must not bury inside? Don't mam

1163
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:42,840
on b busy that's not because hatim driving to him,

1164
01:24:43,039 --> 01:24:48,880
lie across a line, always standing.

1165
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:49,359
Speaker 21: On of you.

1166
01:24:50,279 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 20: Just let go on you.

1167
01:25:11,399 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: I like that bass note at the end there That

1168
01:25:14,079 --> 01:25:16,760
is Cammy Nicks. That track is called good Things. And

1169
01:25:17,399 --> 01:25:20,159
earlier we played Greedy, her newest single, and then we

1170
01:25:20,239 --> 01:25:24,960
talked with Cammy joining us from Nashville. That was very cool.

1171
01:25:25,079 --> 01:25:27,520
So look forward to keeping up with everything that she's doing.

1172
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,079
Souvenirs coming out August first, and we might get to

1173
01:25:31,199 --> 01:25:33,199
give that a world radio premiere. You know, we like

1174
01:25:33,279 --> 01:25:37,960
those absolutely, I do absolutely, so welcome everybody, of course

1175
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:40,479
if you are joining us alive on Saturday morning. It

1176
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,840
is July fifth, twenty twenty five. Matt Connorton Unleashed and

1177
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:51,479
I think we should talk about this an interesting story

1178
01:25:52,319 --> 01:25:57,359
that took me by surprise. So there's Lord who's she's

1179
01:25:57,399 --> 01:26:00,399
been around for a while, I think, right, yes, she's

1180
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:03,199
got a new CD. And this is from the Verge

1181
01:26:03,239 --> 01:26:07,840
dot com. So you know, sometimes when releasing physical media,

1182
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,039
people like to come up with cool gimmicks, you know,

1183
01:26:11,399 --> 01:26:16,239
like back in the days of when Vinyl was was well.

1184
01:26:16,239 --> 01:26:18,439
Of course vinyl has had such a resurgence over the

1185
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,279
past decade, but you know, sometimes with Vinyl people tried

1186
01:26:21,279 --> 01:26:25,960
to do cool stuff, release limited edition Vinyl. I remember

1187
01:26:27,319 --> 01:26:31,319
I still recall when Dan of Dan Randall and the Randlettes,

1188
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,520
some people will know when he showed me he had

1189
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:39,800
bought the the Kiss single for Unholy that came out

1190
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,800
in ninety two and it was they put it out

1191
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,279
on limited edition white vinyl. It was so cool.

1192
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 44: Anyway, My favorite was a Stix album that I think

1193
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,119
it was Paradise Theater that actually had the theater in

1194
01:26:52,359 --> 01:26:55,239
the album like the visual. Yeah, you had to hold

1195
01:26:55,279 --> 01:26:58,199
the album a certain way to see the yeah, to

1196
01:26:58,319 --> 01:27:00,600
see it. But yeah, I mean I was stuff like that.

1197
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:03,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. Pick picture discs they call them, yeah, and those

1198
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:06,600
are cool. And you know, some artists have tried to

1199
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:11,359
do things unique and innovative with CDs as well, not

1200
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:17,319
just vinyl. And Lord's new CD is transparent. You can

1201
01:27:17,399 --> 01:27:19,399
see through it. And if you don't know what I'm

1202
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,520
talking about, you know, you can always go go find

1203
01:27:22,520 --> 01:27:25,239
a picture of it online. It's interesting. It's it's completely clear.

1204
01:27:25,319 --> 01:27:29,560
You can see right through it. What a cool idea, right, Yeah. Actually,

1205
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,359
well there's only one problem, and this is from the

1206
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,479
Verge dot com. Lord's new CD is so transparent that

1207
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,479
stereos can't even read it.

1208
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:41,199
Speaker 35: Oh god, that's so terrible.

1209
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 1: And there's only one version and it doesn't work on

1210
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,920
most players. So this is from the Verge. It says

1211
01:27:48,039 --> 01:27:50,760
Lord fans are clearly struggling to play the CD version

1212
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:53,560
of her new album. Consumers who purchase the special edition

1213
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:59,800
of Virgin released on a transparent plastic disc or reporting

1214
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:03,399
Reddit and TikTok that many CD players car serios and

1215
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,560
other sound systems they've tried to play it on are

1216
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:12,800
unable to play it. The transparent CD promoted it as

1217
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:17,520
being fully recyclable, is currently sold out on Lord's web store,

1218
01:28:18,199 --> 01:28:21,479
and was the only disc variant available for the Virgin album. So,

1219
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,600
in other words, if you don't want the clear CD,

1220
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:26,000
if you want something you can actually play, you can't

1221
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,000
even get it. Nope. So that may have come as

1222
01:28:29,079 --> 01:28:31,159
a that may have been a welcome compromise for fans,

1223
01:28:31,199 --> 01:28:34,199
given the singer opted to forego a CD release entirely

1224
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,159
for her twenty twenty one album, Solar Power over waste

1225
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:41,319
and environmental concerns, but little comfort to customers who can't

1226
01:28:41,399 --> 01:28:46,079
purchase alternative options. One Reddit user said, quote very cool

1227
01:28:46,159 --> 01:28:49,119
looking and I'm not going to return it, but doesn't

1228
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:53,000
work in three of my top players. PC was able

1229
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:56,920
to rip, but the files are not great. There's distortion

1230
01:28:57,079 --> 01:29:01,399
and clipping. User unquote. User report it's indicate that older

1231
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,000
hardware is less likely to work with the CDD than

1232
01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:07,439
devices with newer sensors. So you know, we should just

1233
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,760
stress that so people know. It's not that it doesn't

1234
01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,800
play at all. You just have to have a new,

1235
01:29:14,079 --> 01:29:17,159
a very new CD player apparently that is able to

1236
01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:22,000
actually read the data on it, because as one person

1237
01:29:22,119 --> 01:29:25,279
pointed out, and this isn't from the article I saw

1238
01:29:25,399 --> 01:29:30,439
this on. Uh, I saw this on another post. Somebody said, Hey,

1239
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:34,119
you know it's completely clearer. There's no silver coding, but

1240
01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:36,439
isn't the silver where the data is stored.

1241
01:29:37,319 --> 01:29:39,359
Speaker 35: God, that's true.

1242
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's true. So apparently it's so so if

1243
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:46,680
you have a newer CD player you can play it,

1244
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,279
but older ones car serios won't play it. Uh, it's

1245
01:29:51,399 --> 01:29:54,720
it's you're just sol it says here. One TikTok user

1246
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,479
demonstrated that her car CD player was an unable to

1247
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,720
recognize the disc and said that for seeing the CD

1248
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:06,439
inside resulted in automatic ejection, mirroring similar reports made in

1249
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,840
Reddit comments. Uh this redditor said, quote, whoever decided to

1250
01:30:11,159 --> 01:30:14,239
design this as an idiot? Cars can't read the CD.

1251
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,760
Walkman's can't read the CD. You need to create CDs

1252
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,399
that are fit for purpose of for the medium in

1253
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:26,520
which they are played on, which is older technology. Unquote, no, you.

1254
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 44: Should update your technology. But that's your it's your fault.

1255
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,239
You didn't update your technology. You're the greatness of the desk.

1256
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:37,520
Speaker 1: If you're a true Lord fan, you know this reminds

1257
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,279
me of a there's a podcaster or who we know

1258
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:43,840
who always complains about people not listening to his podcast

1259
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,720
on good quality equipment and expects everyone to upgrade their

1260
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:53,199
equipment when they listened to his amazing yes yes, how

1261
01:30:53,319 --> 01:30:57,760
he how he knows how people are consuming his content.

1262
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:58,439
I have no idea.

1263
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,960
Speaker 44: But what I don't get is, like, didn't they test

1264
01:31:02,039 --> 01:31:04,840
it out on They must have, like only played it

1265
01:31:05,039 --> 01:31:06,239
on the very best.

1266
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: That must That must be what happened.

1267
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 35: Yeah, nobody bothered to go, hey, let me go see

1268
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:10,960
if this will work in my car.

1269
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:14,119
Speaker 1: That that's probably what happened, it says here. Lord has

1270
01:31:14,199 --> 01:31:16,880
yet to address any of the issues raised about the

1271
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:21,359
transparent Virgin CD. The official came uh. The official cause

1272
01:31:21,399 --> 01:31:25,119
of the playability issues also has not been confirmed. It's

1273
01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:29,279
certainly striking. It's certainly a striking disc. CDs with even

1274
01:31:29,359 --> 01:31:33,119
partially clear designs are uncommon UH and can be a

1275
01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:35,720
hit with collectors. But the lack of functionality in this

1276
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,479
example has been a bitter experience for some Lord fans.

1277
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 35: Yeah, I can imagine I got a pretty disc.

1278
01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't play it.

1279
01:31:45,239 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 1: One TikTok user said, quote, seems like they didn't account

1280
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,920
for this pretty disappointing. I know it was for an aesthetic,

1281
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,920
but at least press it on normal CDs too. Unquote. Yeah,

1282
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,079
that's the other weird thing. It's like, why wouldn't you

1283
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:03,720
also put out out a non clear.

1284
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 35: Edition because they thought that it was going to play

1285
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:06,359
and everything.

1286
01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Well, I also wonder if they thought that people might

1287
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:15,960
this is Wow. There's a picture here in this article

1288
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:18,319
two of the disc of someone holding up the disc

1289
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:21,520
and yeah, it's very clear. Yeah, I'd be pretty skeptical,

1290
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,239
Like if someone handed that to me and said, here,

1291
01:32:23,359 --> 01:32:26,479
play this, I'd be like, uh, what is this? Is

1292
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,600
this actually a CD? What are you giving me here? Yeah?

1293
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,640
Speaker 44: It looks kind of it doesn't You're right, it doesn't

1294
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,119
look like any disc that you've seen before. Yeah, but

1295
01:32:36,279 --> 01:32:39,520
it's cute and it's quirky, and if it had played

1296
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,399
on everything, it would have been great, And that's probably

1297
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,479
why they didn't print regular ones. But then maybe they

1298
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,119
should go back and do that now and like offer people,

1299
01:32:48,399 --> 01:32:50,479
you know, hey, you bought this disc it's great, but

1300
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,720
here's one you can actually listen to, right.

1301
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 35: Like that would be great to do for fans. Yeah,

1302
01:32:55,159 --> 01:32:56,159
that would make it better.

1303
01:32:56,359 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 44: Yeah, but to spend the money to buy the thing

1304
01:32:58,039 --> 01:33:01,000
and you can't play the music that it's not just

1305
01:33:01,079 --> 01:33:01,920
about aesthetics.

1306
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 35: I mean, you want to hear U's on it.

1307
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: Unless they also made the calculation, it's possible that someone

1308
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,159
made the calculation that people weren't going to buy this

1309
01:33:11,359 --> 01:33:13,640
discs to play it, but people are going to buy

1310
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:14,920
this disc just to have it.

1311
01:33:15,399 --> 01:33:16,399
Speaker 35: I think that's silly.

1312
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The only reason I think someone

1313
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,720
might have thought that is because, you know my theory

1314
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,720
about vinyl. I've said it all the time that when

1315
01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:26,640
artists release new vinyl, you know, because some of the

1316
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,359
guests that we've had on the show, for example, they'll

1317
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:33,079
they'll do vinyl, And I always say that. My theory

1318
01:33:33,239 --> 01:33:36,840
is most people who buy new vinyl don't even have

1319
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,960
a record player. They just buy it because they want

1320
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,159
to have it, Like, they never even necessarily open it.

1321
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:45,199
They just want to really support that artist, so they'll

1322
01:33:45,279 --> 01:33:48,600
buy it just to you know, maybe put the artwork

1323
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:50,560
on the wall or something, or just just to have

1324
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:52,479
it because they want to support that artist, not because

1325
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:54,560
they actually have a record player at home that they're

1326
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,039
going to play it on. You know what I mean.

1327
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 35: I do know what you mean, But I honestly think

1328
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:01,920
in this instance, it's just not the equivalency.

1329
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I'm just I'm just wondering if someone

1330
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:07,319
maybe had that theory though, Like, maybe somebody had a

1331
01:34:07,359 --> 01:34:09,000
theory to my theory about Vioylin they thought it would

1332
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:09,680
have Even if.

1333
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 35: That was the theory, why would you print only discs

1334
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,039
that you can't listen to? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.

1335
01:34:16,319 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So it's pretty strange, and apparently it's not

1336
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,079
being addressed. I guess it just came out because this

1337
01:34:22,199 --> 01:34:23,800
story just broke a couple of days ago.

1338
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,079
Speaker 35: I'm sure that she anticipated that the disc was going

1339
01:34:27,159 --> 01:34:27,560
to work.

1340
01:34:28,039 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 44: You know, I highly doubt that it was sold to

1341
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,600
her as Hey, we want to print millions of your desk,

1342
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,399
but we don't want them to be able to necessarily.

1343
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 35: Play unless you got expensive equipment.

1344
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:42,079
Speaker 45: Yeah yeah, unless you have new equipment, it done work.

1345
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:46,359
That's right, That's right, and that done not good. So well,

1346
01:34:46,399 --> 01:34:48,199
hopefully everyone learns something from this.

1347
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,119
Speaker 44: Yes, do not make the clear unless they find a

1348
01:34:52,279 --> 01:34:55,600
better material to use to make them on that can

1349
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:56,520
actually be read.

1350
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 35: They kind of need the silver part.

1351
01:34:59,079 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah like that one, the person wrote, absolutely. So another

1352
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:09,359
thing that happened recently. Oh and this this will probably

1353
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,079
be a surprise to you because we didn't discuss this,

1354
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:13,159
but this popped into my head. I wanted to say

1355
01:35:13,279 --> 01:35:15,680
something about this. So long time listeners of the show,

1356
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,920
and of course people who know me personally know that

1357
01:35:18,199 --> 01:35:21,600
uh Kiss is my favorite band of all time. You

1358
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:26,239
knew that, right, I think Kiss is my ald time.

1359
01:35:26,359 --> 01:35:28,560
Speaker 44: Why there's kiss all over your office? That might be

1360
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,520
yes kiss ornament hanging off your light?

1361
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: Kiss is my favorite band, uh Kiss. Paul Stanley said

1362
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:40,239
something recently though, that I found rather shocking, really, and

1363
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,000
I just I just wanted to address it for the

1364
01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:44,520
for the you know a lot of guests that we've

1365
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:48,039
had on the show too or like Kiss, so you know,

1366
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:50,800
this subject comes up. But as Paul Stanley said something

1367
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,880
that really surprised me, I was quite taken aback. He

1368
01:35:54,119 --> 01:35:56,520
said in an interview, because he's doing a lot of

1369
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:59,039
interviews these days, he and Jine Someone's both are now

1370
01:35:59,119 --> 01:36:01,479
that Kisses. You know, they're not touring anymore. They did

1371
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,000
their the End of the Road tour.

1372
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,279
Speaker 35: They're doing the Hologram tour.

1373
01:36:04,399 --> 01:36:09,079
Speaker 1: They're still doing some stuff that's coming later. They are

1374
01:36:09,159 --> 01:36:11,039
doing a thing and they're doing a big event in

1375
01:36:11,359 --> 01:36:13,279
Las Vegas where they're going to play. So they're you know,

1376
01:36:13,319 --> 01:36:17,199
they're still active, but they're not going to play. They're

1377
01:36:17,199 --> 01:36:19,840
going to have No, that's something that's something else that's

1378
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,960
coming later. No, Kiss actually is playing there. Yeah, so

1379
01:36:23,039 --> 01:36:25,000
they're they're still going to do some things here and there,

1380
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:27,359
but but just not like a full tour. That was

1381
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:29,600
the last actual getting on the road, going on tour.

1382
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,439
They're in their seventies now. Oh yeah. Paul Stanley said

1383
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:39,920
in a recent interview that he feels, in hindsight, because

1384
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:42,399
he's doing all these interviews talking about, you know, looking

1385
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,760
back on Kiss, he feels that, in hindsight, it was

1386
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,640
a mistake in nineteen eighty three when they took the

1387
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:52,279
makeup off, because those those four characters that they had

1388
01:36:52,319 --> 01:36:56,319
created are so iconic and and uh and and you know,

1389
01:36:56,399 --> 01:36:58,319
he didn't think that he didn't think that anything that

1390
01:36:58,359 --> 01:37:01,000
they did, could could ever live up to that? And

1391
01:37:01,279 --> 01:37:03,560
so on hindsight he feels that that that might have

1392
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:06,439
been a mistake. What do you think, Well, I was

1393
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:10,680
shocked that he said that, because because it was a

1394
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,680
complete one eighty from everything he's ever said on the subject,

1395
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:19,199
because everything else any other time, in any interview or

1396
01:37:19,239 --> 01:37:21,119
even in his book. He talks about it. In his book,

1397
01:37:21,119 --> 01:37:23,640
he talks about it a lot. The decision to do that,

1398
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,600
the reason they did it at the time was because,

1399
01:37:27,239 --> 01:37:29,520
you know, the makeup on a business level had run

1400
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,479
its course. It had seemed Kiss had gone from being

1401
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,479
one of the biggest bands in the world to having

1402
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,119
a couple of tough years where in the United States,

1403
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,279
you know, they had really kind of fallen down and

1404
01:37:39,359 --> 01:37:41,560
they needed to change. It was time for a drastic

1405
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,319
change in the band. And so it's like Paul the

1406
01:37:45,399 --> 01:37:47,720
way Paul talks about it in his book. For example,

1407
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,960
in his autobiography, he talks about the conversations he had

1408
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:52,680
about it with Gene because he had to talk Gene

1409
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:55,439
into it. It was Paul's idea, oh, and he had

1410
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,319
to know that, and he had to talk Gene into it.

1411
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,239
And he said to Gene, he said, we have nowhere

1412
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:03,479
else to go. We have to do this. Because both

1413
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,479
when they took the makeup off in eighty three and

1414
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,359
when they put it back on in ninety six for

1415
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:10,439
the reunion tour with the original lineup, in both instances,

1416
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,319
Paul had to talk Gene into it in both In

1417
01:38:13,399 --> 01:38:15,159
both to put the makeup back on. To put the

1418
01:38:15,199 --> 01:38:16,920
makeup back on, he had to talk Gene into it too.

1419
01:38:17,319 --> 01:38:19,439
Both times he had to talk Gene into it. It

1420
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:21,439
was it was Paul who really wanted to do it,

1421
01:38:22,279 --> 01:38:25,079
and you know, and obviously he did talk Gene into it.

1422
01:38:25,399 --> 01:38:28,640
And the thing is, so Paul felt they couldn't continue

1423
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,760
on at that point in eighty three with the makeup.

1424
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,600
They had to make this change. And Paul was like,

1425
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:36,159
you know, not only will not only will it kind

1426
01:38:36,199 --> 01:38:40,199
of refresh the band, it's sort of you know, it'll

1427
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,159
also proved to everybody, you know, the haters, the doubters,

1428
01:38:43,239 --> 01:38:45,279
the critics, you know, that were more than just the

1429
01:38:45,359 --> 01:38:48,520
makeup and the flash and all that, and that were

1430
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:53,479
there were real band of course, of course, so they

1431
01:38:53,520 --> 01:38:56,600
took the biggest scambal of their career. They actually they

1432
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,119
because they were rolling the dice. It was a scary

1433
01:38:59,239 --> 01:39:01,560
time for the band, and and Paul talked about that

1434
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,239
a lot in his book. Two was a scary time

1435
01:39:03,279 --> 01:39:06,199
because this was a big risk, a big gamble, you know,

1436
01:39:06,279 --> 01:39:09,520
and they did the unmasking on MTV and whatnot. Turn

1437
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:11,800
turned out. And this is part of why it's so

1438
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,760
shocking to me that Paul said this recently turned out

1439
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,520
it was the right call because it did it. It

1440
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,279
brought them back. You know, they they'd had a couple

1441
01:39:21,319 --> 01:39:23,640
of tough years, but they they take the makeup off

1442
01:39:24,279 --> 01:39:27,560
and that first single, no Makeup, Lick it up ended

1443
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:30,319
up being a big hit, and they're back. You know,

1444
01:39:30,359 --> 01:39:33,439
they're on MTV now and the songs on the radio

1445
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,880
and Lick It Up goes platinum, and you know, so

1446
01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:40,279
it really brought them back. Now. Granted, during that non

1447
01:39:40,359 --> 01:39:43,520
makeup era of the band, they were never as big

1448
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,479
as they were during that original makeup era where they

1449
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,359
were one of the biggest bands in the world. Yeah,

1450
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,560
but they were still doing really well. That was a

1451
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,720
successful period that all those albums went platinum. You know,

1452
01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:57,119
they were still able to do the arena tours, the

1453
01:39:57,159 --> 01:39:59,319
big arena tours. They they didn't have to scale down

1454
01:39:59,399 --> 01:40:01,560
and play club or anything like that. So this is

1455
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:06,159
a pretty successful period and so but they had to

1456
01:40:06,279 --> 01:40:08,239
do it, like they had to take that risk.

1457
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 35: Did he qualify his statement as to why he thinks

1458
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:11,720
it's a mistake.

1459
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:14,079
Speaker 1: Now, he just said he said that, you know, looking

1460
01:40:14,199 --> 01:40:16,600
back on it, he thinks that, you know, they should

1461
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,800
have maybe it would have been smarter to stick with

1462
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:22,159
that iconic image that they had created and not tamper

1463
01:40:22,279 --> 01:40:25,119
with that. But he's never said that before, and I

1464
01:40:25,239 --> 01:40:29,039
was just so shocked because he's always maintained up until

1465
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:33,319
recently that it was the right decision because that's what

1466
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,039
they had to do to save the band, and it worked,

1467
01:40:36,199 --> 01:40:39,560
It did save the band, and so it's so I

1468
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,560
was so shocked when I saw that when he says,

1469
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:43,520
you know, in hindsight, I think it was a mistake.

1470
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,119
It was like really interesting, very shocked.

1471
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:48,039
Speaker 44: Did you get older you change your perspectives on how

1472
01:40:48,079 --> 01:40:50,520
you see things. I mean, yeah, I can look back

1473
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:54,079
on my youth and go, oh god, you are so ignorant, but.

1474
01:40:54,159 --> 01:40:54,920
Speaker 1: There's no window.

1475
01:40:55,039 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 44: But yeah, we all make decisions. But it's you know,

1476
01:40:58,039 --> 01:41:00,920
it is interesting because I mean, like you said, it

1477
01:41:01,039 --> 01:41:05,000
kept them, it kept them viable. It kept them making money. Yeah,

1478
01:41:05,079 --> 01:41:07,279
it gave them the whole new downsize already, like.

1479
01:41:07,399 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gave them a whole new you know, I

1480
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,000
gave them a big boost, you know.

1481
01:41:11,439 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 35: Yeah, so that is interesting.

1482
01:41:14,199 --> 01:41:14,399
Speaker 31: Yeah.

1483
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1484
01:41:17,159 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: And then and also too, if they had if they

1485
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:25,159
had never taken the makeup off the reunion in ninety six,

1486
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,279
when they put the original lineup back together and put

1487
01:41:28,279 --> 01:41:30,439
the makeup back on, that wouldn't have meant nearly as much,

1488
01:41:31,319 --> 01:41:32,359
you know, Yes.

1489
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,159
Speaker 35: I agree, So I agree.

1490
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,279
Speaker 44: It would have been like, yeah, whatever, okay, well no,

1491
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,239
I mean, it would have been the original lineup, so

1492
01:41:40,319 --> 01:41:42,319
there's definitely something to say there. It still would have

1493
01:41:42,319 --> 01:41:44,439
been a little bit It wouldn't have been as dramatic

1494
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,760
putting the makeup back on, right, right, except for what

1495
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:48,479
a decade?

1496
01:41:49,079 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen years? Yeah, yeah, the non makeup era lasted

1497
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:53,680
thirteen years.

1498
01:41:54,319 --> 01:41:56,880
Speaker 35: Did you like the music better during that era or

1499
01:41:57,119 --> 01:41:58,520
what's your favorite era of Kiss?

1500
01:41:58,640 --> 01:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I love every era of Kiss, but my favorite era

1501
01:42:02,319 --> 01:42:08,000
is late makeup era, like, you know, the first half

1502
01:42:08,039 --> 01:42:09,600
of the nineties when they were still out of makeup.

1503
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,960
That was my favorite era of Kiss. But see, I

1504
01:42:13,039 --> 01:42:14,960
mean part of my perspective is when I became a

1505
01:42:15,039 --> 01:42:16,920
Kiss fan. They were already out of the makeup for

1506
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:19,720
a couple of years. It was actually Tears Are Falling?

1507
01:42:20,359 --> 01:42:23,680
Speaker 44: Well, you were after the makeup? Yeah, yeah, I guess

1508
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:27,520
I kind of assumed you were in it from the beginning. No, no, no,

1509
01:42:28,119 --> 01:42:30,680
I was you were a late bloomer.

1510
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, when I really got into Kiss, it was

1511
01:42:36,039 --> 01:42:39,880
the video for Tears Are Falling was on MTV. It

1512
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,079
was on in heavy rotation actually, and I was I

1513
01:42:43,279 --> 01:42:46,640
still remember I was watching MTV one day after school

1514
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,800
and the video for Teers Are Falling is on, and

1515
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,000
my dad comes home from work and he kind of

1516
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,039
pokes his head into the living room and says, Maddie,

1517
01:42:54,079 --> 01:42:56,760
who is that is that Kiss? And I said yeah.

1518
01:42:57,119 --> 01:43:00,600
He said I really liked this song and I said, oh, yeah,

1519
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,199
me too. It's like my favorite song right now. And

1520
01:43:03,279 --> 01:43:04,880
I guess he kind of made a mental note of that,

1521
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,840
because then he got me that album for Christmas. He

1522
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:11,079
got me a Kiss Asylum was the album, and I

1523
01:43:11,239 --> 01:43:13,880
think Kiss fan was born and yeah, and that was,

1524
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,479
you know, and I listened to that over and over

1525
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:21,640
and that was when Kiss became my favorite band. But yeah,

1526
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,479
so they were already out of the makeup anyway. So

1527
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,760
but yeah, and then and then Paul had to talk

1528
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:30,800
Gene into it in ninety six when uh, because they

1529
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:35,479
did the MTV Unplugged where they were able to, you know,

1530
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:37,479
the two guys, the two original guys who were not

1531
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,479
in the band at that point, Peter Chris and Ace Raeley,

1532
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:41,119
they were able to join in for a few songs.

1533
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,880
So that that kind of that kind of got the

1534
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:45,880
ball rolling. You know, well, maybe we should put the

1535
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:48,880
original lineup back together and do a reunion in full makeup.

1536
01:43:49,039 --> 01:43:49,560
Speaker 14: That makes sense.

1537
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,159
Speaker 1: But again Paul had to talk Gene into it because

1538
01:43:52,239 --> 01:43:55,319
Gene wanted to. He was skeptical and he was like, like,

1539
01:43:56,079 --> 01:43:58,199
I like the path we're on now, we should just

1540
01:43:58,319 --> 01:44:01,760
keep going with this. And Paul said, now that the

1541
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,840
fans want this, and you know, and he was right

1542
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,119
because that ended up being that reunion tour that summer

1543
01:44:09,600 --> 01:44:12,720
in ninety six, Kiss and Metallica, those were the two

1544
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:15,840
top selling tours of the summer. That's how huge that was.

1545
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,920
I mean, it was, it was massively successful.

1546
01:44:18,039 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 35: So true they did the right thing in the end.

1547
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:26,159
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So one other quick thing here, and I

1548
01:44:26,319 --> 01:44:28,720
think I'd sent this one to you. This is because

1549
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:30,760
we talk about it even came up in our conversation

1550
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,640
with Cammy Nicks. We talked on the show a lot

1551
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,199
about AI and AI and music, and so this relates

1552
01:44:36,399 --> 01:44:41,840
very directly to that. This is from the BBC, AI

1553
01:44:42,039 --> 01:44:46,840
claims and a hoax spokesman. Viral band confuses the world

1554
01:44:46,880 --> 01:44:49,960
of music. So there's this viral band. This is this

1555
01:44:50,079 --> 01:44:54,560
band is AI generated? Check this out. So a band

1556
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:58,880
called The Velvet Sundown has had its tracks played hundreds

1557
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:02,199
of thousands of times on Spotify since appearing several weeks ago,

1558
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,720
without anyone knowing for sure what it is. The band

1559
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,279
has a verified page on the music streaming platform with

1560
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:13,039
more than eight hundred and fifty thousand monthly listeners. That's

1561
01:45:13,079 --> 01:45:16,840
a hit. However, none of the four named musicians in

1562
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,119
the band have given any interviews or appear to have

1563
01:45:19,239 --> 01:45:23,359
individual social media accounts, and there are no records of

1564
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:28,920
any live performances. It is prompted accusations that they and

1565
01:45:29,039 --> 01:45:34,479
their music are AI generated something the band, something the

1566
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,800
band denies on social media, not on camera, and the

1567
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:43,399
band did not respond to the BBC's request for an interview.

1568
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,800
This is kind of funny, I mean it's scary, but

1569
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,039
it's kind of funny at the same time. Further confusing

1570
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:54,640
the story, Rolling Stone reported that the bands spokesman had

1571
01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:58,760
admitted The Velvet Sundown's music had been generated using an

1572
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:06,079
AI tool called care to Guess Studio, the one the

1573
01:46:06,159 --> 01:46:11,520
one we've used, only for the magazine to UH to

1574
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:16,119
report shortly afterwards that the spokesman was himself a hoax.

1575
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 35: The spokesman was Ai yes oh, I missed that part.

1576
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: The man who goes by the name of Andrew Frehlan

1577
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:28,760
UH said it was a deliberate plot to hoax the media.

1578
01:46:29,319 --> 01:46:32,039
A statement on the band Spotify page said that the

1579
01:46:32,159 --> 01:46:35,880
group has quote no affiliation with this individual nor any

1580
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,079
evidence confirming their identity or existence unquote. An account on

1581
01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:43,000
x which claims to be the band's official channel is

1582
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:47,439
also fake, it added. Professor Gina Neff from the Mindero

1583
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:53,840
or Mindaru Center for Technology and Democracy. Let's go with

1584
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,760
MINDERU because that's fun to say at the University of

1585
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:00,239
Cambridge says it points to a problem which affects much

1586
01:47:00,319 --> 01:47:03,399
more than just one band. She said, quote whether this

1587
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:07,359
is an AI band may not seem important, but increasingly

1588
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:11,359
our collective grip on reality seems shaky. The Velvet Sundown

1589
01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:15,840
story plays into the fears we have of losing control

1590
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:20,640
of AI and shows how important protecting online information is. Unquote.

1591
01:47:21,520 --> 01:47:25,479
The Velvet sundowns indie ballads with guitar music and male

1592
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:31,600
vocals is fairly easy. If bland on the ear with

1593
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:36,680
lyrics such as eyes like film in faded light dreams,

1594
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:41,079
walk barefoot into the night, ash and velvet smoke, and

1595
01:47:41,159 --> 01:47:47,079
flame calling out in Freedom's name, it could all feasibly

1596
01:47:47,159 --> 01:47:49,520
be either AI generated or appenned by humans.

1597
01:47:50,279 --> 01:47:55,039
Speaker 44: Uh yeah, do you remember that happened with me recently?

1598
01:47:56,279 --> 01:47:58,279
Yai band an.

1599
01:47:58,239 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: AI band contacted you.

1600
01:48:00,600 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 35: Well, I contected them.

1601
01:48:04,039 --> 01:48:07,880
Speaker 44: The name is Interfury, Yes, and I really liked the

1602
01:48:08,079 --> 01:48:10,640
music and thought, oh, these guys are great.

1603
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:11,600
Speaker 1: I'd love to have them on.

1604
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:14,239
Speaker 44: And then I come to find out they are the

1605
01:48:14,319 --> 01:48:18,000
creation of one human who created these other humans that.

1606
01:48:18,039 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 3: Are not human.

1607
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:24,319
Speaker 44: They are AI, and the whole band is is Yeah,

1608
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,840
his his musical creation. But in this instance is a

1609
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,800
big difference because he said every single lyric has been

1610
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:32,520
written by him.

1611
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 35: Yeah, for this particular band, Interfury.

1612
01:48:36,319 --> 01:48:38,279
Speaker 44: So I don't know about the other person, but I

1613
01:48:38,399 --> 01:48:42,239
know that all The lyrics to this particular music is

1614
01:48:42,319 --> 01:48:43,880
claimed to have been written by the artist.

1615
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:49,159
Speaker 1: Let's see so they have us. I just looked up

1616
01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:50,840
on YouTube. I want to I want to check out

1617
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,479
the music of the Velvet Sundown. They have a Velvet

1618
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,199
Sundown song called dust on the Wind. Not dust in

1619
01:48:57,359 --> 01:49:01,760
the Wind, that's that's Kansas. This is dust on the Wind.

1620
01:49:03,039 --> 01:49:06,079
Let's uh. I want to hear this and just see

1621
01:49:06,119 --> 01:49:09,840
what it's like. Uh, here we go. Oh, it's got

1622
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,640
to get through these commercials. It is uh, it is

1623
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:18,079
monetized content. Let's see dust on the Wind.

1624
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:19,640
Speaker 35: I say that's pretty smart.

1625
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:37,399
Speaker 25: Dust on the wind, boots on the ground, smoking the sky.

1626
01:49:38,279 --> 01:49:45,319
Speaker 33: No peace, faun rivers run raid the drums are also.

1627
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:53,359
Speaker 3: Tell me brother, where do we go? Raise your hand

1628
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,600
all away, sing how loud?

1629
01:50:00,079 --> 01:50:01,159
Speaker 5: Hey coma pay.

1630
01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:08,439
Speaker 3: Much hoopy note fau pride, Let.

1631
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: That fly turn with the child. M hm, well it

1632
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,039
sounds very pro war.

1633
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:27,359
Speaker 3: Let's fly.

1634
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:33,239
Speaker 33: You think it's pro Mama praise, while Young Manda.

1635
01:50:33,079 --> 01:50:38,359
Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Yeah, it's it sounds like it's we

1636
01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:41,079
we still got time to make a stand. God time

1637
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,840
made It's a it's a lyric video that I'm playing

1638
01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:47,960
it from that's why the lyrics.

1639
01:50:48,359 --> 01:50:54,560
Speaker 33: Look away, sing down loud, may compay.

1640
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:59,680
Speaker 3: Much happy note f pride.

1641
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,520
Speaker 1: I gotta say I love this AI generated voice. It's voice.

1642
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 35: Yeah, that's kind of an issue.

1643
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:17,000
Speaker 44: Because all the ones I've heard so far, but actually

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really good. So that's that's kind of boo. Oh yeah, yeah,

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I want to I just want to know what is

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AI and what is human?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 44: Yeah, I think there should be a little disclaimer or something. Yeah,

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like this is my creation, but the band is Magic,

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the Velvet Sundown. I'm curious if I can find anything else.

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Speaker 1: Of there here.

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Speaker 44: Uh so you should check out that Interfury one. Yeah no,

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you showed me that, Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah I

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01:51:47,279 --> 01:51:47,880
did show it too.

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Speaker 1: Oh. They've got a whole album called Dust and Silence,

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Dust and Silence. Yeah, let's see.

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Speaker 35: This was the song though, wasn't it dust, Dust on

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the Wind, on the Wind.

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Speaker 1: This one's called let It Bird.

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Speaker 33: Flicker, lights on silver sad, marching ghosts with no commands,

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velvet boots on mirrored ground, drums of thunder distance.

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Speaker 5: Promises, e static blue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it is a little bland, but all

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right there it is the world Radio premiere of The

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Velvet Sundown.

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Speaker 3: No, we don't close your eyes and smoke these.

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01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm looking at these song titles. I do too. I'm

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01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:59,560
looking at these song titles and this titles like Driftwood,

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01:52:59,680 --> 01:53:05,520
Soul Jurors, where War Remains. Oh yeah, this is all.

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01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:12,720
There seems to be a theme war debt yeh Crimson Parade.

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01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:15,319
Speaker 3: Oh isn't that a pretty image?

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01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:16,159
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of stuff in the lyrics about waving

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01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:24,600
flags and maybe the person making people pay, the person.

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Speaker 35: Created maybe be a veteran. Maybe you like, do we

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know anything about the creator?

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01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 1: No, we don't know anything about just that they're not

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real and there.

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01:53:35,199 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 35: And their contact isn't real either, right, spokesperson.

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:45,199
Speaker 1: The spokesperson was not real. There's an AI generated picture

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01:53:45,239 --> 01:53:46,800
of them, of the band.

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Speaker 35: They saw that when I was looking at it.

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01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 1: They look like uh, but the one.

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Speaker 35: Yes, but you can tell like at least the one

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on the right hand side.

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Speaker 1: Looked like he was AI.

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 19: Yeah.

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01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:02,319
Speaker 1: They kind he doesn't look like he's They kind of

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01:54:02,359 --> 01:54:07,640
look fake. Yeah. Yeah, Well yeah, that's where we are.

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01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 21: Now.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll

1693
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,439
begin to wrap up. We're almost out of time.

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Speaker 35: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I hope everyone had a safe Fourth of July.

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Speaker 35: Absolutely, I hope you're stuff with hamburgers.

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01:54:19,239 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 3: And hot dogs.

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01:54:20,239 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Oh, and there is a new Tough Bumps up, Eric

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01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,560
and I did it yesterday. Tough Bumps Episode ten is up.

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You can find that online. And Jenny, you want to

1701
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:30,000
You're always up to a lot of stuff. You want

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01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:30,840
to mention your website.

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01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:33,479
Speaker 44: Hi, you can always check me out at Jencoffee dot com.

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01:54:33,640 --> 01:54:36,119
J E n n c O f f ui dot com.

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01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:39,600
And I was told yesterday I have some things coming up,

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so stay tuned.

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01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,359
Speaker 1: Very good, very good. And if you want to know

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01:54:42,479 --> 01:54:45,079
more about me and everything, I'm up to Matt Connerton

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01:54:45,159 --> 01:54:47,439
dot com. And thank you again of course everyone who

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joined us today, Cammy Nix And in the second hour

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we had a congregation x they sounded amazing. And in

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01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:57,159
the first hour we had Shanna Trehan, author of The

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01:54:57,239 --> 01:55:00,680
Anxiety Fix. That was a very interesting conversation. And if

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01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,239
you miss any part of today's show, it will be

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01:55:02,319 --> 01:55:05,960
up in just a little bit at wmnhradio dot org

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01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,399
and at my website Matt Connerton dot com. And I

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also want to mention before I play the show's outro music.

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That all the new music that you hear on the show,

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01:55:18,479 --> 01:55:21,640
the bumper music, the new theme music. Everything that is

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01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:26,079
our friend Dylan Reynolds from Adam Bomb. Wait. I want

1721
01:55:26,119 --> 01:55:27,640
to make sure I get this right because I think

1722
01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,720
I said the name of his service wrong the other day.

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01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:34,800
I want to look at the logo because I want

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,359
to give you the website too, for anyone who's interested. Oh, yeah,

1725
01:55:37,399 --> 01:55:41,960
Dylan does great work. Yeah, so Adam Bomb is great,

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01:55:42,079 --> 01:55:46,720
Adam Bomb Artwork and audio, and the website is adambom

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artwork dot com. Adam as an a t O m

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01:55:50,640 --> 01:55:53,720
Adam Bomb, and yeah, Dylan's amazing. We love our friend

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01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:57,119
Dylan Reynolds. So with that we shall bid you ado

1730
01:55:57,720 --> 01:56:00,560
and and we'll talk at you all next week. Thanks everybody,

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01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:01,199
Bye bye.

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