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coach for the Profo High school basketball team that just

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All right, let's talk some ball. I need someone who

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noseball to tell me what's going on with BYU basketball.

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A man that is six foot nine, two hundred and

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thirty pounds of solid muscle at a Provo High school

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and he's the head coach for the Provo High school

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basketball team that just won Stateless. Welcome at former bucket

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getter himself, Chris Collinsworth, Number forty one on the court,

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number one in our hearts today, Chris, how are you

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good man? How you doing doing fantastic? Congrats on the

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state championship. How does it feel to win another state

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title on that floor? Now? As a coach?

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Speaker 1: It's awesome. Man. My mind feel better as a coach

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than it did as a player.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy. The vicarious accomplishments, right, I mean, obviously

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you're you're accomplising as a coach, but you're you're you're

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you're coaching these guys. You're not playing the game. How

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is it? How is it possible that it could be

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more satisfying, more exciting to coach a championship rather than

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to play for and win a championship.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, that's a good question. I honestly

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didn't even know if I would like coaching, So the

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fact that I do as much as I do.

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Speaker 1: The one is crazy. But no, it's all about the.

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Speaker 4: Guys, Like we have really really good players really good

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group of just humans that we get to be around

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every day, and there's something special about being able to

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put them in positions to succeed and watching it happen.

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And you know, I was able to experience state championships

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as a player, and so being able to instill them

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with the same belief and you know, put things into

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play for them and have it come into fruition is

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I don't know, it's really surreal.

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Speaker 1: That's I've just been telling people. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So what's the equivalent in this coaching championship achievement to

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the twenty seven points you had in the state title

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game right in two thousand and seven and you became

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the gate Rade Utah Boys Basketball Player of the Year

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with that performance. Did you do anything coaching wise that

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that parallels the twenty seven points that you put up

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in that state title.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's really different.

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Speaker 4: Like when you're a player, you just you you prepare,

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you go out, you play, you do your best, and

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the chips kind of you know, it happens. Coaching is

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similar in that way, but you're I always tell people, like,

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once the game starts, like your goal is just not

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to pull a Chris Weber and get two technicals to

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interfere with the game like you did.

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Speaker 1: You did all your prep work before.

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Speaker 4: You're just trying to keep guys confident, trying to keep guys,

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you know, put them in the right place and succeed.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of that happens.

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Speaker 4: Before the game, so when you get into the game,

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it's just you trust your guys to go out there

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and and play confident and play loose and have you

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have fun, like enjoy the game. And and then you know,

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we were talking about inputs, like you do everything in

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your power that everything you can control, and then the

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outcome is the outcome. As a player, like you feel

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that more. I feel like like it's like you're out there.

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make the you know, the defensive play, you got to

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get the redown. You actually have to sweat and be

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in shape. As a coach, I can know, drink him

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out and do right before the game, even during the game,

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and it doesn't affect the outcome. So I don't know,

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it's it's crazy. It's definitely different. It's really fun. It's

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fun to compete again because you're definitely competing like you're

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out there, You're you're competing your game, you're game planning,

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you're trying to put like I said, guys in the

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right spot. But I don't know, it's hard to explain.

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It's it's different, but it's it's really fun. It's addicting.

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Like my poor wife, she probably had no.

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Speaker 1: Idea that her husband was going to be a high

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school basketball coach. But here we are.

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Speaker 3: It's so fun. I mean, you're more than that. You're

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an entrepreneur. You do a lot of things. Obviously you've

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been able to free up enough time to coach and

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which is which is pretty cool to fall back in

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love with an activity that that you know, that that

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had given you so much and also kind of probably

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some injuries. If everyone you know, not everyone knows your

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your path, your trajectory to b Yu and and it

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was it was short. It was too short, right with

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how much talent you had coming into Brigham and so

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to fall back in love with the game. Has that

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been a special thing for you?

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Speaker 4: It's you know, that is something my wife talks about

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a lot. It's been very full circle and it's it

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has given basketball a lot of meaning again where there

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was definitely, you know, times even years where you're kind

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of like, what was the point? Yeah, Like, you know,

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what was the point of putting in all that work,

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all the time, all that effort.

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Speaker 1: It's obviously there was a.

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Speaker 4: Ton of benefit, even even with the ending sooner than

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to feel like sorry for me and my guys, how

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did I get to play you know, high school basketball

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at a high level. The fact I even got to

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play for a D one team, even for a minute,

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is more than most people can say and like, and

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what what was the point of like going through all that,

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having the talent, having the ability, and then having it

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end as quickly as it did, and now being able

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to coach and take those experiences and being able to

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help you know, my guys like it feels way more meaningful,

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and so it does feel full circle. And yeah, I

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feel very blessed, honestly to be able to have an

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experience where I get to love basketball again and I

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probably even love it more now than than I did,

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especially at the end of my college career where I

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was there's just hard, like here's surgery again. Have fun,

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and so yeah, super blessed to be able to rekindle

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that and to be back at it.

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Speaker 3: You take your own experience right to you. You employ

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that experience in teaching and mentorship. But I imagine there's

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a few principles, a few schemes, a few things drills

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that you took from Coach Craig Drury. Give me a

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shout out and how impactful he was for you.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean Coach Dury. When they asked me to

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coach three years ago.

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Speaker 4: He was someone I talked to immediately and he told

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me like, look, if you do it, I'll coach you.

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doing I've never before, so you know, with Coach Drury,

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and then I have a really good, really good assistance. Actually,

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every one of my assistants, two of them played at

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BYU and then the rest.

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Speaker 1: Of them they all played at PROVO and so they're

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very ingrained in the coach Duri culture.

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Speaker 4: And that's been a really, really big part of our program,

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is just instilling the belief.

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Speaker 1: In our guys that they can win.

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Speaker 4: Like probi I had won seventeen state titles most of

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the state before this year. The one we won this

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year was number eighteen. And we talked about that all

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the time with our guys, and because when we played

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for Coach Druiy, that was the expectation and there wasn't

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a day an open gym or a practice that went

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by that there wasn't like to talk about how we are,

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you know, practicing and playing to be the best, and you.

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Speaker 1: Have to believe that you can compete at that level

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if you're ever if you're ever going to do that.

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Speaker 4: And so from day one that was like, you know,

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told guys like, hey, like I'm here to we're here

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to win a state championship and if you don't believe that,

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let's let us help you believe that.

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Speaker 1: And so we brought in.

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Speaker 4: You know, not only did we bring in coach Stue

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Mark Durant, Tom Homo, Santiago's Ty Wesley, Mkelly Wesley, all

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these people who have who went to Provo, A lot

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of them went to BYU, but have who experienced a

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ton of success in basketball and and in life and

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help them come back and tell these guys like, hey,

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like we were great, you can be great too.

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Speaker 1: And but that culture for us was with coach Drury,

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and coach would tell you it.

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Speaker 4: Was with coach Jim Spencer before him, and he won.

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He wanted several titles at Provo before coach Durie. And

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so yeah, like the drills and everything, we run same defense.

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been really like the mindset and how to coach the

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mindset and the and the belief that you can be

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good and you if you put in the work, you

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deserve to be good. And that's one of our mantras

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this year is cash the check. Like you write yourself

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a check every time you put in the work and

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work hard, but you've got to cash it by going

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out and putting your best effort and hopefully getting out

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an outcome, which is winning the game or winning region

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and then winning state. And so it was really fun

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at the end of that last game to go say, hey,

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all spring, summer, fall season long.

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Speaker 1: Now you get to cash it. So yeah, I learned

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Speaker 4: From from coach Durie and all hit the players that

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played for him that were willing to come back and

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talk with us and help him steal that mindset and

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that belief.

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Speaker 3: Chris Collinsworth, former b YU bucket getter, a big man, uh,

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former gig Raide Player of the Year in the great

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state of you talking and talking to some ball with

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his celebrating his state championship and his accomplishment as a coach.

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know you're coaching, Okay, you're you're doing great things. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Family is great. Family is really good.

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awesome life and awesome kids and works really good.

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Speaker 1: Been in a sports.

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Speaker 4: Licensing business with with Jimmer actually for about five years

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and it's been fun.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's we've had a good.

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Speaker 4: And so it's been fun to have it become, you know,

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the main gig if you will.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, life's good. Can't complain love.

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Speaker 3: That, man, And uh, what do you think about this? Uh?

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This bub League basketball team? Chris? Have you been over

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watching any of the games? What's going on with them? Coops?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I watch, I watch. It's tricky, man. Injuries. Injuries

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obviously play a big part of it. It's that always

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makes things really hard.

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Speaker 4: I remember, even as the player getting hurt, like feeling

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terrible for the coaching staff and the team and being

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like they had.

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Speaker 1: This whole his whole roster was.

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Speaker 4: Assembled with me and mind game plans plays base line

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out of bounds, sideline out of bounds, defensive schemes like

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so when you lose a guy and two guys and

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three guys and four guys, like all the planning and

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prep that you know, Coach Young and the staff will put.

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Speaker 1: In like they got to change, didn't change on the fly,

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So that's that's not fun. I don't envy them at all.

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Speaker 4: From that perspective, and I think they're obviously handling it

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well and then losing is not fun. And to echo

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what you know Coach Young said after last game is

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he's just trying to get his guys to have confidence

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and believe again. And I think, I honestly think that's

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a huge part of this. Like I was just looking

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at the box score we had. We had several dudes

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who played over ten minutes last night.

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Speaker 1: They didn't even shoot the ball once. And I'm not

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saying they had shots, they turned down shots, but there's.

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Speaker 4: Clearly a belief issue amongst other things. And I agree

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with Coach Young, it's like this thing in the season

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right now, like the most important thing is getting some

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guys to go out and truly believe that they.

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Speaker 1: Can win and give it their all. And you can

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see that's missing.

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Speaker 4: Like you watch a game and the efforts low, which

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makes things like the fundamentals look like they're not. Their

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confidence is low, which again makes you know, very things

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that look very simple or should be very simple, they

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also look hard or look look like we don't know

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what we're doing. And so how do you get that

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back in you know, a short period of time before

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Texas Tech and into the Big twelve tournament. I don't know,

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and I'm grateful I'm not being tasked.

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Speaker 1: To figure that out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, belief is interesting, man, obviously, like preparation,

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uh is is a key oponent, key component too to

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having that confidence right. But when you when you're on

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kind of like a negative spiral, it's hard to kind

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of pull yourself out from that, and especially I think

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the dynamics of of playing alongside stars. You know, you

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want to fill your role right, Like talk to Kyle

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a lot about this. Like, you know, Kyle ear Lyon

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in his career, he's a rebounder defender and you know,

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didn't get many opportunities to get shots up and he's

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found his role right eventually, though, like you, you got

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to be able to step up and make shots when

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when when blitzes come and and ultimately double teams come

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and they got to kick it to you, et cetera.

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And and I don't I don't know you know where

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you know where the confidence is. I think Alexi's gained

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some confidence with more minutes. He's definitely shut. He's got

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a pure stroke. Hadeem looked a little bit out of

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sorts in his first start, but he has been a

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bit of an energizer bunny in the past with rebounding

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and defense. Maybe that was the the lights were too bright.

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You know where do you turn right now? You know,

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aj and and Rob typically can get buckets, but they

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they've been really forced recently. They're not coming easy whatsoever.

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It is really forced, and it is it is like

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just arduous to watch these guys try to score some

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time with the physicality of the Big twelve, They're contested

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shots every single time. Nothing's coming easy offensively.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everything looks sticky, everything looks forced.

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Speaker 4: Its hard, like you said, and you know, to echo

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like with Kyle what you're saying about Kyle, it's true,

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like he did a really good job, you know, his

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freshman year coming in and filling a role, and sophomore

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year's role expanded and then obviously junior and senior year.

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Speaker 1: And that's a lot of us credit to.

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Speaker 4: Like Coach Rose and coach Rice, coach Lacombe, coach nash

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If coach Wardenberg, shout out to all those guys. But

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we I feel like we knew who we were as

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a team. There was an identity in place with that.

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Coach Rose did a good job, Like we knew what

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we wanted to do, so it was easier to like

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know what your input into that system was. And like

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you look at these really good teams, you know the Gonzagas,

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Houston teams, even like Arizona teams that have.

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Speaker 1: Been good and have been good for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Like they can get guys and plug and played because

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the team's identity and the expectation for the team, it

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doesn't change game to game. It doesn't even change like

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year to you a Houston, you know exactly who Houston's

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going to be. And so when guys do get thrown

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out there, like they know what they're the expectation is

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for them, they know the role they're filling. And I

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feel like right now we're missing that with this team,

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Like I don't think we know who we are going

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to be game to game, even half to half, and

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so I think it's hard for a guy to come

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in on limited minutes and know what their expectation actually is. Like,

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if you're Houston on defense, you're blissing a ball screen.

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how you got to rotate, you know what the efforts

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expected to do that, and you can go and fill

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that side of the ball really, really, like easily, because

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everyone on the team is expected to do and it

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is expected to do a certain way. And yeah, when

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you watch like it feels like we're missing some of that.

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Speaker 1: And so it is.

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Speaker 4: Harder for role players to come in and magnify their

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role because I think they're guessing, like, you know, okay,

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aj is going to shoot it, but what does that

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mean for me? And then defensively, it's like what is

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my role defensively?

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Speaker 1: Like? And again you lose Ritchie and.

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Speaker 4: I think that that problem is magnified for sure. But yeah,

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this kind of leaning back into the Kyle on Coach Rose, Like,

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Kyle did a really good.

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Speaker 1: Job of.

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Speaker 4: Stepping in every year, and his role obviously got bigger,

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went from being a true freshman starter to the best

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player on the team. But we always knew what was

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expected and we had that style of play. Like the

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truth is, we committed to by U for that style

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of play, and when we were when I was getting recruited,

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like all the coaches that were recruiting me, like I

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was looking at you know, did I want to go

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play for Tony Bennett at Virginia and play a pack

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line defense and to slow it down offense? Or did

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I want to play for Coach Rose and play like

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a faster, you know, a much faster offense, get into transitions,

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get more shots up type of scheme.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: My take kind of on our team right now is

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I don't feel like we know who we are and

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so it's harder for guys to step in and step up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hope they can find the identity. They can

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they can circle back and and find something. And in

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what are the silver linings right now? Right when you've

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lost so many games, you have the ceiling the potential

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of Iowa State. Do you just go back and you

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watch highlights just like to let's watch it all, like, look, guys,

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we're a good basketball team. Let's watch ourselves like you

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know what I mean, Like, how do you instill confidence

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once again and instill you know, that swagger when you're

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so down Frauden right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 4: I mean I was watching Wisconsin highlights earlier in the season,

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obviously a very different team, but it did give me

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confidence and who we can be, and so I think

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there is a lot of that I think you're watching,

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Like I think the film session today is not what

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it was probably two weeks ago, and you're not probably

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not hashing over Obviously you need to talk about where

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we can improve, because there's a lot we can improve on.

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But the perspective is like, you guys are D one players.

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They're getting paid like you're really really good. Let's help

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you figure that out.

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Speaker 1: And I even think the.

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Speaker 4: Expectation internally of like, hey, you know, we're a top

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five team in the country, Like, I think you have

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to coach to that differently and relieve yourself of a

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lot of that pressure.

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Speaker 1: And I think even coach young like he has an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: To have some freedom and creativity on both sides of

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the ball to try to figure out what's working.

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Speaker 1: And you can see that happening in these games.

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Speaker 4: But hopefully even that like helps bring some confidence where

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it's like, hey, we can be dangerous because nothing is

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really expected of us right now. So let's try some

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different things and just do it with maximum effort. And

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that would be the one thing that I would coach

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really hard, is like if you're gonna be on the floor,

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like you gotta freaking give it everything you have inside

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this framework and let's see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, effort makes up for a lot of things last night, though,

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Like as a as a former player, as a basketball

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state champion coach, Man, you've been around the game for

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a long time. I know it giveth and it taketh

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away so many lessons, learn, so much experience, right are

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you Are you most frustrated with like like just poor

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lazy passing at the top of the key? Are you

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more frustrated when you're watching like if the ball getting

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sticky offensively and maybe bad or four shots? Or do

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you get more frustrated with like just wide open like

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uncontested shots, bad defense? Like where where do you find

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you get most frustrated as a player and like a

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coach watching basketball last night? Specifically?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it's it's usually I get frustrated around

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like effort, around the.

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Speaker 1: Basic like basketball.

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Speaker 4: You can make basketball really complicated, but at its core,

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like basketball is a simple sport and a big part

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of that is like bringing maximum effort inside your role.

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ones like do these guys know their role like when

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they go out there? And I think they do. And

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then too it's like, then why aren't they giving it

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everything they have? You know with those limited those limited

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minutes and for some of them who are now getting

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much more expanded minutes, it's like you've got to bring

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it like you're you're in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that like to them mentally they aren't.

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Speaker 4: This is where the confidence things come in, Like they

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might be giving their full effort, but they're just not confidence.

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It doesn't look like it like it's hard. It's hard

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to look like Houston with their effort if you don't

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have the.

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Speaker 1: Confidence that Houston has. And so that's where I.

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Speaker 4: Think what Coach Young said yesterday it was just so true,

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like they've got to get confident.

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Speaker 1: If they can, they can figure out how to get confident.

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Speaker 4: In a couple of days, I think that what we

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perceive as effort will look like it's higher. But yeah,

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that would be the thing that that is The thing

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that frustrates me is like, let's let's go out there,

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do your job and do it with maxim effort and

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let's see, let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: But when guys are nonchalant like I was. I loved

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Mark Durrant's X.

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Speaker 4: Posts recently about just the defensive breakdowns, just the very

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basic I love how I didn't trying to blast anyone.

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He wasn't trying to know call people out, but as

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fans like, as we watched that, like he gave some

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really good insight onto.

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Speaker 1: Just some very basic stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, switching, we have Rob Wright going underscreens four

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feet off the three point line and we're wondering why guys.

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Speaker 1: Are getting wide open shots.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have simple cross simple cross screens there.

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I guess it's flex action that's just happening, and we

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don't know if we're switching or not switching. And a

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lot of that it starts with communication, and communication is

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a form of effort.

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Speaker 1: And it's like if two dudes can't talk to each other,

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they are not giving effort.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to handle that screen right, And that's

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where it's like, are we switching? Those screens are we

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not switching those screens, like what is what's the expectation

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and the role for the guys out there?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's where for me a lot of

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the frustration comes. It's just like the very stuff that

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should should. I know, it's not basic.

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Speaker 4: Like again, like I'm not trying to like blast anyone

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because when you're out there like it being this goes

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back to the difference of being a coach and being

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a player.

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Speaker 1: Right, Like you're.

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Speaker 4: Being a coach, it's easy to like why do you

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handle that cross screen right where it's a player, It's

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like there's a thousand things going on, and so yeah,

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I would just like to like leave a game. So

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like we gave everything, like our input into the game

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was at a maximum level, and then if the output

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is we lost.

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Speaker 1: I can deal with that.

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Speaker 4: But if our input into that game doesn't it feels wrong,

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which it has, it's like, no wonder we lost. And

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that's that's where I get like a sour taste in

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my mouth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like Okay, let me ask you this because this

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is a schematic thing. I think kind of a schematic

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based question and like kind of a reality of a

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situation like Bai's defense. It's not good, right, especially for

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it's going against some of the best teams in the country, Like,

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you know, these are really good, these are really talented teams.

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So it's like it's exacerbated, right because it's just bad

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defense then turns into like horrible defensees you're going against

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some really good teams. Is it Is it more simplistic?

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Is it better to like go forward and try to

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rep out these actions that you're getting in a like

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man de man defense, right, and work on your communication

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with like a little bit of time here leading up

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to Big twelve tournament and the NCAA tournament, you're just

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trying to wrap it out and work on communication and

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practice and maybe through walkthroughs and all those things. Or

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is it better just to like simplify and be like, hey,

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we're just running zone. We're gonna switch up between a

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one through one and a two three, conserve energy and

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hope that we can just outshoot out, outscore teams on

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the other side of the ball, which we're we're honestly

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pretty good at. We've been really good, we've been elite

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at scoring. Give me your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 4: No, that's a fantastic question then a good coaching philosophy.

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Speaker 1: Question as well. And my take on that is, I

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would this goes.

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Speaker 4: Into Houston, Like Houston a long time ago picked what

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they were going to be really good at on the

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defensive side of the ball, and they don't adjust they do,

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they're going to be better at They're going to be

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better at what they do than you are scouting, scouting

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and adjusting based on what they do.

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Speaker 1: Right. And I was watching one of.

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Speaker 4: Their games earlier in the year and they were they

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were up one against Auburn I believe it was, and

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they were still trapping ball screens, leaving leaving guys can

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test it up one And I was like, holy cow,

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Like that feels that feels like the wrong time to

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do that. But guess what they got to stop and

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they won the game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that was a.

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Speaker 4: Test to me because that's like our philosophy, like we run,

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we run one defense in the end, we have like

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a little bit of adjustments out of it based on

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like scenarios and situations, but like we want to be

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really really good at us And so that's something that

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I would love to see, boy you do is get

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an identity and get really good at it and how

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do you do that in a couple of days.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, So to answer your.

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Speaker 4: Question directly, I would I would like to see them

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clean up up some of the fundamentals and lean into them,

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versus being like we're just gonna, you know, throw it

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all away and sit back in a two three. But hey,

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I mean, if they are going to sit back into

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two three, let's be good at it. Let's just let's

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let's just clean that up or go Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: And get really good at a one three one like,

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and again, it's hard. It's really hard being a coach.

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Speaker 4: I I hate I hate talking about what other coaches

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are doing well or wrong because it feels like I

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know how hard it is, and so like, hopefully none

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of this is taken as.

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Speaker 1: Like criticism towards like the current staff, but.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I don't, I don't know the answer. It's

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it's hard, But I do think like if guys can

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get confident and maybe we simplify some things and they

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can go out and give maximum effort, those like we

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could have.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully hopefully a different result.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it all comes back to guys gotta be confident,

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play hard, Like I know, that's the most like fifth

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grade level thing you could say, but it's just true.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you there wholeheartedly. And like, look,

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there's only the guys in that locker room, and only

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the coaches know, you know all the details. Right, So

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when Hadembu gets the start, there's a reason, there's rhyme

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and reason for that. But why didn't he get a

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start until that time? Well we may have seen the

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reason why because he just he's more of an energizer

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guy coming off the bench. It just fits better. And

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he just in the starting role just he seemed a

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little bit lost out there. Why didn't Alexi Costick maybe

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get more pt or leon in the season and build

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confidence so he could be a shooter and a score

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and space the floor, like you know, if that would

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have happened in Xlray letter, maybe he have more confidence now.

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But you know, Richie, Richie was getting a lot of minutes.

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Other guy, Cannard Davis was the guy that was supposed

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to be three and D and bem what mag was

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last year and like and he wasn't necessarily he didn't,

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he didn't. It didn't pan out. He was like almost anyway,

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he was almost a forty percent shooter from three point

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line last. Anyway, Chris, I've learned something from you. I

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always appreciate talking ball with you. Glad you're doing well.

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Congratulations on the state championship. And uh, I always appreciate

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our time to get the man. Thanks for hopping on today, Bro,

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And let's get you into a suit over at Odeon Men'swear. Bro,

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you're gonna need a new game day suit. Are you

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a suit guy for game day?

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Speaker 1: I'm not. Ah, you couldn't catch me dead coaching in

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a suit.

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Speaker 3: But Bro, I'm telling you, Okay, okay, make a deal

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with me. Okay, if you go on, I'm gonna get

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you an Odeon Men's Worth suit. It's a sports performance suit.

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It's fantastic. I'm gonna get you one of these. I'm

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gonna get you hooked up with the CEO. You're gonna

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be so comfortable in this thing you may want to

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wear it for a game time. All I'm saying is

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I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Saying sounds good. I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, buddy, I'll get you do all. I appreciate you, man,

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Thanks so much, Chris. All right, guys, we're gonna go

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to break we'll have Will Farron on