WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:03.600 This is the twelfth season of Inside the Paint. I've 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:08.279 now done this show straight through my twenties thirteen different times. 3 00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:11.119 We have gotten up here to talk about Kansas basketball teams, 4 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:13.519 because the first season was technically about two different teams, 5 00:00:13.519 --> 00:00:16.679 and here we are all of these teams and landon 6 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:19.839 you back for what this is year seven? 7 00:00:19.879 --> 00:00:20.039 Now? 8 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:23.679 I think I think so, so you are back and 9 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.079 maybe better than ever or maybe past your expiration date. 10 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.760 We'll find out this season. But there is absolutely question 11 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.159 every year, out with the Nick and in with the 12 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:37.200 new because we have the third component of this show 13 00:00:37.560 --> 00:00:41.039 is a completely new voice. How should I I don't 14 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:42.679 know how I should do this. I don't even remember 15 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:46.320 how I introed you and Nick seven years ago? Like 16 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:48.479 what's the best way? Should I just like give him 17 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:51.000 the floor? Or do you want to make opening remarks? 18 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.200 I said give him the floor. I think I think 19 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:55.320 he's I mean, I think everyone knows pretty much who 20 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:56.679 it is at this point, so I think he can 21 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.560 say his own thing, as I also preface it with 22 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:01.679 ten and so so both both is good? 23 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:05.560 All right? Well, then then Cam welcome aboards Inside the Paint. 24 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.239 You can have the floor to talk about who you are? 25 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.159 What the how excited you are for this show? Because 26 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.040 we are stoked to have you somebody who might challenge 27 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:18.159 me for loudness on the show, which is which is 28 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:19.079 two thumbs up for me? 29 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:20.959 Wow, I mean that is. 30 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:21.200 Ah. 31 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:24.079 I have a lot of people that I'm probably gonna disappoint, 32 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.799 but I'd like to say thank you to my parents 33 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:30.640 for getting me to this point. I got a big 34 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:34.599 support group that's listening to me. All five people listeners. Yeah, 35 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:37.640 pumped to be here, guys. I will probably provide very 36 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:42.640 ah man. Yeah, you're probably right. I'll probably provide about 37 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:46.439 five good takes per season and be excited to be here. 38 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.319 And and Cam, you have been listening to Inside the 39 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:53.640 Paint since before Landon and Nick were on the show. 40 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:56.519 You're one of the OG's back when I was still 41 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:00.640 in college. Can you there are so I'm curious about this. 42 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:05.359 There are on this show. There are I believe eight 43 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:09.520 people that I've that I've done at least seven shows. 44 00:02:09.800 --> 00:02:11.080 Can you name all of them? 45 00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:13.520 Oh man, that's a good question. All right, So eight 46 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:22.159 people obviously you Landon, Nick, Daniel, Josh, Scott Chason, and 47 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:25.759 then the last two. I'm not gonna be able to remember. 48 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:28.280 It's seven, you're only missing one and this one was 49 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.080 only on the first season. It was Tyler and I 50 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:34.120 that started itp and then Josh and Daniel and I 51 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:37.520 took over at season two. So you have you really 52 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:40.240 have been listening since the second season. That's all of 53 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.919 my twenties. I feel so old that that that's the case. 54 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:47.479 Yeah, you guys have definitely contributed to my decline mental health. 55 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.840 Well, if you think we've done the job, then wait 56 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.960 till you see this preseason number one basketball team with 57 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.680 nowhere to go but down that we got to talk 58 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:02.199 about here on this sea of itp Cam, Welcome aboard. 59 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:03.479 Good to have you. We're gonna have a lot of 60 00:03:03.479 --> 00:03:07.439 fun this season talking about those preseason number one Jayhawks. 61 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:09.879 Second year in a row, they've been crowned at the 62 00:03:09.919 --> 00:03:13.000 top of the preseason ap pole. Hopefully this year goes 63 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:14.879 a little bit better. But this is the Inside of 64 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.560 the Paint Podcast. We're here to intro the season and 65 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:21.280 talk all about the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five Jayhawks. 66 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.840 I am Ryan Landreth, I am Landon Fields. 67 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.199 And I am Bill Crank. 68 00:03:27.479 --> 00:03:30.280 I like how Landon just passed that trophy off. I 69 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:32.879 haven't heard you that Landon Fields has not said the 70 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.800 words land and Fields on this show in a very 71 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:37.400 long time. Welcome back. 72 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:39.960 Yeah, no, it's good to say my real name. It's 73 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:43.080 way easier than thinking of a fake name ten seconds 74 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.280 before saying it. So this is good. I'm glad to 75 00:03:45.319 --> 00:03:47.719 be back as well. It has been at least all 76 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:50.439 of last year. I think I made it and it 77 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.960 was it started like two seasons ago when I started 78 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.560 the fake name thing. I hope anyone out there found 79 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:56.080 that funny. 80 00:03:56.639 --> 00:03:58.840 Well, and if you didn't say your name, then we 81 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:00.599 would never get to hear things like this. 82 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:03.000 You suck ass. 83 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.639 So I'm happy that you're back to saying your last name, 84 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:08.520 and I'm glad to write back. So, oh well, the 85 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:11.479 drops are never going anywhere. And Cam, this is this 86 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.199 is a big moment for you. You're about to hear 87 00:04:13.240 --> 00:04:17.360 your first ever itp airhorn, which may just well contribute 88 00:04:17.399 --> 00:04:20.279 to your declining ear drums over the next few years. 89 00:04:20.600 --> 00:04:23.360 Landon has heard more than a few. So let's let's 90 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:26.319 go ahead and talk about everything that's happened with Kansas 91 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:31.560 basketball in the last few months. Okay, so you guys 92 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.040 had a homework assignment, and I did too. I was 93 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:35.959 not immune from this, and that was to watch the 94 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.920 Late Night and the Fog Scrimmage, which, as we all know, 95 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.279 you can infer so much about how the season is 96 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.680 going to go based off of the events that take 97 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:48.800 place during that fifteen minutes of late night scrimmage, as 98 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.920 evidenced by National Player of the Year runner up Carlton 99 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.800 Bragg from that dynamite twenty seventeen Late Night in the 100 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.680 Fog that he had. If you guys remember that, you 101 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:02.879 get oh, I remember land and coming into the because 102 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.120 Landon you got to do the second year of Carlton Bragger. 103 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:07.800 What's it the third? I don't remember what. Did you 104 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:09.959 and Carlton Bragg ever cross paths on this show? 105 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:12.319 I think so. I think he was on one of 106 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:15.040 the teams, one of the he might have been on 107 00:05:15.240 --> 00:05:16.959 his last year at Kansas when I was on my 108 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:17.720 first year at IP. 109 00:05:17.920 --> 00:05:23.199 I think, good times, really really good times. We'll we'll well, hopefully, 110 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:27.240 hopefully the Carlton Bragg whatever you want to call the 111 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:30.160 Carlton Bragg thing, won't happen on this year, squad. But 112 00:05:30.240 --> 00:05:33.199 you guys did watch the Late Night, The Late Night 113 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.879 in the fog scrimmage? Is there anything we can really 114 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.839 infer from this, like, did you guys, did anything capture 115 00:05:39.879 --> 00:05:42.639 your attention as something to jot down and say, oh, 116 00:05:42.680 --> 00:05:44.519 maybe that will be something to watch on this year's 117 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.360 team well being. 118 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.399 This is a basketball podcast, and as we do every year, 119 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.560 we will talk for the next fifteen minutes about what 120 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:57.879 the late night scrimmage definitively means. But it means nothing. 121 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:00.879 A few things, I think, but doing it look good 122 00:06:01.800 --> 00:06:04.360 mostly at least, I think he was solid. I was 123 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:05.839 impressed with the little bit I saw. I think he 124 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:07.879 did get a shot blocked or maybe two shots blocked. 125 00:06:07.920 --> 00:06:10.360 That's not necessarily great, but I liked what I saw 126 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.000 from him. Team looked like it can shoot as a whole. 127 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:16.480 That definitely obviously was not the case last year in preseason, 128 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:18.519 and it was true all season. They looked like they 129 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.079 could shoot from the beginning, and obviously they did. That's 130 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:23.759 not the case. I do hope that this team can shoot. 131 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.720 They looked like they could shoot a lot of guards 132 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:29.879 that can take threes and make them, hopefully, But this 133 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:33.360 game has the intensity of like a high intensity YMCA game, 134 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:36.800 so it's pretty impossible to tell what anything actually means. 135 00:06:38.319 --> 00:06:41.279 CAM your first take of your i TP career, What 136 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:43.480 shall it be? What do you make of late night? 137 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:44.560 Did you watch the scrimmage? 138 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.279 I did watch the scrimmage. I did do my homework, 139 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:48.639 so I wanted to make sure I got off on 140 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:52.360 the right foot here. But the uh one, Yes, the 141 00:06:52.959 --> 00:06:54.759 main thing that I would like take away from this 142 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.519 towards David Quoite. I love the fact that Kansas will 143 00:06:59.560 --> 00:07:04.040 actually have perimeter scores this year and depth is definitely 144 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:06.160 not going to be an issue, so it was fun 145 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:08.920 to watch. I also found it hilarious how uncomfortable Bill 146 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:13.639 self looks sitting next to Ryan's favorite human Brian Haney 147 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:19.319 commentary bench if you will in sidebar here. I think 148 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:22.319 my favorite part of itp is that I've learned Ryan 149 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:25.279 doesn't hate many things, but when he hates things, he 150 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:31.160 hates them like passionately. Sister Jean carl Cheffer's Brian Hany. 151 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.079 I think I'm leaving you to do listen. 152 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:38.439 It's pretty impressive you do listen this show the Denver 153 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.360 broncos I'm trying to think about if there's really anything else, 154 00:07:42.639 --> 00:07:45.120 And as you know, because you've heard me say these 155 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:49.879 words before. I feel so bad having venom to spew 156 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:52.920 towards Brian Haney, because I think he's a very nice man, 157 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:57.639 but he's quite possibly the worst announcer that I've ever 158 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:01.920 listened to. And I knew that we were done. I 159 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:03.879 knew that Brian Haney and I would never get along 160 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:07.199 when I went to the Kansas basketball banquet the first 161 00:08:07.240 --> 00:08:08.920 year he took over, and that was kind of Bob 162 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:12.079 Davis's thing, kind of recaps the season self comes up, 163 00:08:12.120 --> 00:08:13.839 they talk about it whatever, and it's it's just like 164 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:16.879 listening to your grandfather tell a story fireside as. You 165 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.319 guys all remember the Bob Davis years. And then Brian 166 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:23.160 Haney comes up and he says, in his game show 167 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:27.360 voice instead of the Bob Davis effect, I'm gonna read 168 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:31.079 a poem. And half of the people in the audience 169 00:08:31.120 --> 00:08:33.279 just kind of looked at each other like he's not serious, right, 170 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.000 Like that was a joke. Do we laugh or do? 171 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.799 What do we do? And then he starts reading a 172 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:43.879 poem and he changes agbajie to agbage three and it 173 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.159 just made me want to stab my both timples at 174 00:08:47.200 --> 00:08:48.960 the same time. With the dinner forks at the table. 175 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.120 Brian Haney man, No, we just have to sometimes, like 176 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:56.519 Will Smith had to shoot his dog. I know you 177 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:59.200 don't want to do it KU Athletics, but at some 178 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:03.120 point you have to consider having anybody else call games 179 00:09:03.120 --> 00:09:06.919 for you. That was not one of my observations, but yes, 180 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:09.919 so a couple of things that Bill self said. One 181 00:09:09.960 --> 00:09:11.799 of them, I'll start with the one that you kind 182 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:14.320 of just talked about Cam, which is David Quoit self 183 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:17.480 called him KU's best off the bench score and Greg 184 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.399 Gurley asked him for somebody who you can like in 185 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:24.000 that too, and he immediately mentioned Remy Martin at the 186 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:27.519 end of the National Championship year, and I think that 187 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:30.840 people may remember Remy Martin a little better than he 188 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:34.080 actually was. He averaged about ten points a game in 189 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.440 the tournament, which is it feels like, at least it 190 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.080 felt like more at the time. But when you have 191 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.039 a guy that can give you double figures any night 192 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:44.720 of the week off the bench, the lift that that 193 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:47.799 will give everybody else, every year it feels like we 194 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:50.360 talk about who's gonna start and who's not gonna start. 195 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.840 I don't know if that matters as much this year 196 00:09:52.840 --> 00:09:55.559 as it does other years, because I think the lineups 197 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.399 that close games are going to be dependent on how 198 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:01.000 things go in those middle twenties five thirty minutes. I 199 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:03.320 think you're gonna see a lot of different closing lineups. 200 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.600 Even if guys like Koit or Zeke Mayo or Flora 201 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:09.039 Badonga don't start, I think they're all gonna have a 202 00:10:09.120 --> 00:10:11.360 chance to impact the end of games. Is that the 203 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.440 correct basketball take? Or is that the it's been seven 204 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:17.519 months since you watched Bill self, so stay tuned take. 205 00:10:19.960 --> 00:10:22.960 Yes? Is the answer there? I think I think the 206 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:27.320 in theory that's true. Who closes games, who's on the 207 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:32.080 floor in big moments is more important than to like 208 00:10:32.480 --> 00:10:36.559 just who starts, but who starts for Bill self is 209 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.720 who's going to be on the floor in big moments mostly. 210 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:43.159 Yeah, And he did say Zeke Mayo has essentially locked 211 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:45.440 up a starting spot. This was a couple of weeks ago, 212 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:47.600 and in a podcast he did with the Field of 213 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:52.000 sixty eight and Jeff Goodman, because what else would Jeff 214 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:53.879 Goodman do? Is like, you're not even gonna believe who 215 00:10:53.960 --> 00:10:55.799 Bill Self said as a starter? I don't know, could 216 00:10:55.799 --> 00:10:57.679 it say? Could it be it was the guy who 217 00:10:57.679 --> 00:11:00.000 he called the team's best player all off season, because 218 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:03.240 he's been really high on Zeke Mayo, who I think 219 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.440 all of us really like. Another one of those guys 220 00:11:06.759 --> 00:11:09.559 like Koite, like Maduna that may be able to give 221 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:12.720 them those other three returneys in the starting lineup that 222 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:15.279 helped that they really didn't have last year. And then 223 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:19.240 let's talk about Florie Badunga. Cam you you were around 224 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.600 with Josh Jackson, who was fantastic, and k You's had 225 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.240 several high profile recruits since then. Self said that Badunga 226 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.000 is the best one that he has had since Jackson, 227 00:11:31.039 --> 00:11:34.600 which was quietly eight seasons ago. At this point, now, 228 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:37.039 what do you think that could do for guys like 229 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:40.039 Hunter Dickinson or even for the non bigs on the 230 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:43.600 roster if Baduma can come in and do what the 231 00:11:43.759 --> 00:11:46.919 recent KU Star freshman quote star have not been able 232 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:47.120 to do. 233 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.159 Yeah, I mean, I think it'll spread the floor a 234 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.799 little bit. It'll be nice to see Hunter Dickinson play 235 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:55.759 and not have the lane clogged up by a certain 236 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.799 favorite power forward of Kansas and kJ Adams, which will 237 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:03.080 be fun topic to talk about later. But no, I 238 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.799 think it will free up some space for sure. Flory 239 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.000 looked really good in the late night scrimmage. Again, that 240 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.039 means absolutely nothing, But according to everything that I've read 241 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:14.759 and everything that I've seen, I think he'll be an 242 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.960 awesome addition and it should be a great, great addition 243 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.120 to have on the team this year. 244 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:23.759 So if Flori is clearly self said that he wants 245 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:26.919 Dickinson and Flori to play forty to forty five minutes 246 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:29.440 a game, so you would think that's the five minutes 247 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:32.639 right there? Are you? I don't know, like the two 248 00:12:32.639 --> 00:12:35.759 big lineup. I have a little bit more optimism in 249 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.039 it this year than I do most years because Badoma 250 00:12:38.120 --> 00:12:40.120 is longer than I thought he was. The dude looks 251 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:43.240 like one of those vintage Texas bigs that shows up 252 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:46.639 at six ' ten and is freakishly athletic, more so 253 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:52.000 than your typical Cliff Alexander style, big bruising forward. So 254 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:53.840 I do have a little bit of optimism there. But 255 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.679 are we expecting the Dooma to essentially get all of 256 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:58.879 the minutes that Dickinson doesn't get. 257 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:04.720 I mean that seems pretty dependent on if he actually 258 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.000 translates or not. But yeah, if he's good, and I 259 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.200 think he will be at least playable, then I think 260 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:13.120 that's very likely that he's gonna get the vast majority 261 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:15.679 of those. I still think kJ might get a few 262 00:13:15.720 --> 00:13:18.600 of those in specific situations if they want to play 263 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:21.039 particularly small and fast. I can see them playing that 264 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:24.159 against a couple of the weaker non com opponents maybe, 265 00:13:25.080 --> 00:13:27.679 But otherwise I think there's a good chance that Flory 266 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.399 does get that spot, and he is a good counter 267 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:33.240 putch to Dickinson. Dickinson is a very much more finesse 268 00:13:33.360 --> 00:13:36.240 kind of player, which works. But Douga looks like he's 269 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:37.799 gonna be much more of a heavy hitter down there. 270 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:40.720 But yeah, I think he does have a very good 271 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.919 chance to probably take those minutes if he does translate. 272 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.120 Then where does that leave Zach Clements. Are we expecting 273 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:50.000 Zach Clemens to just not even play unless it's mop 274 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:50.759 up time this year? 275 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.480 I mean probably hopefully, question Mark. 276 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:59.559 Okay, so neither one of you have optimism. Self said 277 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.159 Zach Lemens is the team's most improved player over the offseason. 278 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:05.639 We know by now to take those quotes with the 279 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:06.480 grain of salt, but. 280 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:09.720 He's supposed to say Zach Clements sucks by a lot 281 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:12.399 in comparison to right Yeahory fair point. 282 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:16.039 But Zach Clemens I think is still this team's best 283 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.000 bet to be a true stretch five. He's taller and 284 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.399 heavier than Badounga is. We've seen the Tanner Groves is. 285 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.240 We've seen those type of guys go out there against 286 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:28.679 Kansas and prove capable of making a couple of threes, 287 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:32.720 and Kansas is five man isn't able to match that 288 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:37.200 on the defensive end, and it leads to bad things happening. Clemens, 289 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:40.200 I think, is this team's best bet to Oh, the 290 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.919 other center made two threes in the first ten minutes, 291 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.279 Let's throw Clements out there to stick with him. But 292 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.399 if you guys think Badonga can essentially do that, then 293 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.320 I don't really know what Clements would do on this 294 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:55.320 team besides hand out towels when people come to the sideline, 295 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.279 Like there is a third big on a roster that 296 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:02.480 has Hunter Dickinson. It if Badunga is anything like what 297 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.399 we think he is, it's hard to see a role 298 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:05.600 for Clemens. Is that is that? 299 00:15:05.679 --> 00:15:09.440 And I really think, I really think Clemens is maybe 300 00:15:09.480 --> 00:15:13.159 the fourth five because I think kJ might readily get 301 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:15.679 or might be in line to get five minutes ahead 302 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:16.159 of him as well. 303 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:19.480 To be honest, and what you think they're actually gonna 304 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:20.480 play kJ at the five? 305 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.200 Like, are we are we going with that? I don't 306 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:27.639 think that's gonna be a regularly applied lineup. I think 307 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.320 he might get like a few minutes there occasionally if 308 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:32.440 they're trying to change it up a little. But I 309 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:37.000 think you're going to see almost exclusively Flory and Hunter 310 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:40.279 in non con. Maybe maybe Clemens, but Cay's non CON's 311 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:43.440 crazy this year. It's like it's easily their most stack 312 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:47.519 non con I've ever seen, maybe against Furman and Brown Zach. 313 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:50.679 Clemens will play ten minutes maybe more. 314 00:15:50.960 --> 00:15:53.840 Okay, see you say that we're gonna get to this, 315 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.600 But I think the non cons schedule is overrated. Everybody's 316 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:00.279 acting like it's so loaded. Maybe I just think they're 317 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.360 going to be better than most of these teams. I 318 00:16:02.360 --> 00:16:05.519 think it's loaded with names. I don't know, Like last 319 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.559 year they had a Maui tournament where three quarters of 320 00:16:08.559 --> 00:16:10.919 the teams in it were top ten teams. This year 321 00:16:10.919 --> 00:16:14.080 they're playing what one game against Duke and then Furman. 322 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:17.240 That's their Thanksgiving week schedule this year. I don't know, 323 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:20.519 Like is the schedule. Actually that good. We'll get to that. Okay, 324 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.039 Cam take for you. Bill self said he hopes to 325 00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.120 play Hunter to one in Caja less than thirty minutes 326 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.559 a game this year. Now, my initial reaction was this, yeah, 327 00:16:30.600 --> 00:16:33.840 but I'm curious. Okay, so you're not buying that at all. 328 00:16:34.159 --> 00:16:36.440 No, not one bit. I mean, we've seen Bill soft 329 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.919 coach for years now. He is one of the most 330 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.039 stubborn individuals that has ever lived. He's going to play 331 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:48.039 who he trusts, and I would stretching Big twelve, Yes, yes, 332 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.320 coming down the stretch of Big twelve play, I'd be 333 00:16:51.480 --> 00:16:53.440 very surprised if he doesn't meet those minutes. 334 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:55.559 So, okay, you start doing the minutes on these, and 335 00:16:55.600 --> 00:16:57.600 I know we're gonna do the prop bets in the 336 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.559 next couple of shows, but you just start doing the 337 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.799 math on this, and you say, Okay, Harris and Ricky's 338 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:06.200 passmore are your ones as much as we'd like it 339 00:17:06.200 --> 00:17:08.079 to be, Zeke Mayo at times, maybe a little bit. 340 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.880 And then you have the five that we think we 341 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:16.319 have sorted through. The fore man is probably going Camas 342 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:19.279 is looking through the roster, and there's about one hundred 343 00:17:19.319 --> 00:17:20.920 walk ons on here. We're learning names. 344 00:17:21.119 --> 00:17:23.240 Did you landon if I had said who is. 345 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:30.720 Will thingvall about five minutes known that that's number fifteen 346 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:32.759 for the Kansas men's basketball team. 347 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:34.640 Wasn't that Josh Selby's? 348 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:34.759 No? 349 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:39.200 Selby was? Uh? Was he was? He twenty three? No? 350 00:17:39.319 --> 00:17:42.839 I just want I just watched Selby's three against USC earlier, 351 00:17:42.839 --> 00:17:47.400 and I can't Maybe he was. I know Patrick Mahomes 352 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.279 is fifteen, and I know Kevin mccullor was fifteen last year, 353 00:17:50.599 --> 00:17:56.279 so maybe maybe will thingfall will will No, No, I don't. 354 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:59.359 Also think there why was he playing in the scrimmage? 355 00:17:59.400 --> 00:18:00.640 And where did he come from? 356 00:18:01.119 --> 00:18:03.440 Yeah? I think all Or what his name is, will 357 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.160 transfer to McNeese State in fire bomb Kansas from three 358 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:08.079 and eight. 359 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.400 And in two years time. Yeah, that's that's how it'll work. 360 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:13.880 And there's also Shaquille Moore, who I guess is here 361 00:18:13.920 --> 00:18:16.920 to play point as well, and he's been in a 362 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:18.759 boot for a few weeks, so they have plenty of 363 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:21.599 point guards. They have the five men out of control, 364 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:26.480 and then that leaves everybody else. Basically you have aj Store, 365 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.079 who projects to get a huge percentage of minutes. It 366 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:31.519 would be surprising if he did not start. You have 367 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.559 Ryland Griffin who figures to get a great chunk of 368 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:36.759 minutes off the bench. Do you think Mayo's gonna start? 369 00:18:37.759 --> 00:18:40.240 Jamari McDowell might just be buried on the bench. Al 370 00:18:40.319 --> 00:18:42.680 said there's a couple of walk on or not walk 371 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:46.400 on red shirt candidates. Is Jamari McDowell the answer to 372 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:48.480 who's the most likely on this team the red shirt? 373 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:49.920 Which one? 374 00:18:50.039 --> 00:18:50.279 Sorry? 375 00:18:50.359 --> 00:18:52.480 I was reading Justin Cross's. 376 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:55.960 Bio, which, Okay, give me one highlight from Justin Crosses 377 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:57.319 six ' eight. He's no slouch. 378 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:02.400 He won the national title with UH something a logan 379 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.599 uh junior college. 380 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:08.559 It's a quick read. I mean they they have a 381 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:11.039 lot of walk Ons. Tell me how many of these 382 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:13.319 names you've heard of? Here are the walk Ons this year? 383 00:19:13.720 --> 00:19:26.720 Noah Shelby will Evers, Yeah, Noah, he's he's from Alabama 384 00:19:26.759 --> 00:19:29.039 and he's all the way here to play basketball Kansas. 385 00:19:29.279 --> 00:19:32.440 Maybe he knows Rylan Griffin. They're both And I don't 386 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:35.759 think Ryland Griffins from Alabama. Think he's from High right 387 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.799 in front of me. But Dylan will Hyde has been 388 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.599 here for what feels like one hundred years, and every 389 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:43.759 time he goes out there in late night. I'm like, Hey, 390 00:19:43.799 --> 00:19:46.200 that guy's tall, maybe he'll play and he never does. 391 00:19:47.559 --> 00:19:49.720 And No, Shelby played at Vanderbilt and Rice. 392 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:53.720 Okay, so so if he's played at and I know 393 00:19:53.839 --> 00:19:56.680 Landon your takes on Vanderbilt are very well known at 394 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:59.799 this point on this show. But if he's if he's 395 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:04.160 at Vanderbilt, then he's he's not He's not will Thingvall. 396 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.480 He's at least a a basketball player. 397 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:09.680 Yeah, he's a real player. I think Bill self called 398 00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:11.160 him the best pure shooter on the team. 399 00:20:11.640 --> 00:20:14.519 He did so, so who knows, maybe you'll maybe you'll 400 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:16.839 see that happen. Actually, I don't know. I think the 401 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.160