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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is hump Day. Welcome to the Big Blue Sider.

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<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel with you on a Wednesday edition of our

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<v Speaker 1>program and coming up once in future Wildcats, We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with Sean Woods at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>He is, of course, the unforgettable guard who talks with

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<v Speaker 1>us each and every Wednesday. Jay Schidler will talk with

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<v Speaker 1>us as well, former Kentucky guard and remember, just in

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<v Speaker 1>time for Christmas, you can pick up his book Blonde

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<v Speaker 1>Bomber The Ride with Shide. So we'll talk to Jay,

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<v Speaker 1>get caught up with him in our number two as

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<v Speaker 1>well as our Western Bureau chief Gary Moore. It is

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<v Speaker 1>awards season and a UK signee, a future Wildcat, Montavin Quizonberry.

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<v Speaker 1>They all purpose star from Boyle County High School, mister

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Football. Voted by the Kentucky Football Coaches Association. He

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<v Speaker 1>swept the commonwealth's top awards. He won the Paul Horning

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<v Speaker 1>Award from the Louisville Quarterback Club and also Gatorade Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year five nine, one, seventy three. And people

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<v Speaker 1>look at him, think about Wandale Robinson and what a yard,

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<v Speaker 1>what a career he had eight thousand total offensive yards,

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<v Speaker 1>running the ball, catching the football, passing the football, special teams. Touchdowns, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen of them and eight interceptions. One of the best

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<v Speaker 1>all around players in the history of football here in

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<v Speaker 1>the Commonwealth. So future Kentucky Wildcat, Well, he's already signed.

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<v Speaker 1>Montavian Quizenberry is mister Kentucky Football. Lamont Butler National Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Week, No surprise. He leads the fourth rank

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats to that win over the Louisville Cardinals in spectacular fashion,

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<v Speaker 1>a career high thirty three points. And nobody really mentioned this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was kind of a I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Latner kind of game. Ten for ten from the field,

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<v Speaker 1>six for six from three point range, thirty three points,

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<v Speaker 1>second highest total in the history for a Wildcat of

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<v Speaker 1>the uk UFL series, and it tied for third best

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<v Speaker 1>ten for ten in program history. Rodney Dent went twelve

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve against Morehead back in ninety three. Kenny Walker

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<v Speaker 1>went eleven for eleven against Western Kentucky. That was in

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA tournament back in nineteen eighty six. And the

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<v Speaker 1>only person I still have a hard time you may

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<v Speaker 1>have seen this believing the only person who hit from

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<v Speaker 1>the behind the arc. Any better was winy In Gabriel.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, my cousin who was seven for seven in

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<v Speaker 1>the NCAA tournament one day. That beat his six for six.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lamont Butler versus, according to the Basketball writers, the

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<v Speaker 1>national Player of the Week. And again, no real surprise there,

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<v Speaker 1>nor was it a surprise that two Wildcats have been

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<v Speaker 1>named Coaches All Americans. The Americanvolleyball Coaches Association AVCA has

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<v Speaker 1>voted Brooklyn Delay and Emma Grome All Americans. Delay, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>is a finalist for Player of the Year. She's first

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<v Speaker 1>Team and Emmigrom. This is the fourth straight year. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine every year you're playing college sports you make

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of All American status four straight years She's

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<v Speaker 1>second team. Delay was an honorable member last year as

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<v Speaker 1>an All American when she was Freshman of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>and now she jumps up and becomes the twentieth UK

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<v Speaker 1>volleyball player to be named first, second, or third team

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<v Speaker 1>since the program's inception. And of course it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of two UK players named SEC aw Conference, and she

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<v Speaker 1>was one of two SEC players named First Team. The other,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Kennedy Martin from Florida, Emmigrom, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned I think earlier this week, now the

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<v Speaker 1>all time assist leader at UK for the Rally scoring era,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was one of four players on the second team.

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<v Speaker 1>And also that team also included Madison Skinner from Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>a former Kentucky Wildcat, UK joining pitt Nebraska, Penn State, Stanford, Creighton,

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<v Speaker 1>Purduing U of L as the only teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>nation with two or more players on the first two

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<v Speaker 1>teams come by. As you heard last night, Ladamian Washington

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<v Speaker 1>is the new receivers coach for Mark Stoops and his staff,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will endeavor to have Coach Washington on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>He comes from South Florida, where he did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good things for the Bulls down there, and he

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<v Speaker 1>takes over a Kentucky team that, for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in three years, does not have the dual threat of

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<v Speaker 1>Dane Key and Barrion Brown. But he's got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of good young talent. Question is who's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>thrown to these guys, Cutter Bowley or maybe Zach Calzada,

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<v Speaker 1>the kid from Incarnate Word who was on campus today

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<v Speaker 1>in Carnal Word in San Antonio. They are also looking

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<v Speaker 1>at Malik Murphy from Duke. So all that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>play out in the next few days. So as they say,

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<v Speaker 1>stay tuned. More football coming up, news about coaches and quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Here on six point thirty WLAP Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Coming up our conversation which we do

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<v Speaker 1>each week with unforgettable guard Sean Woods. We'll talk with

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<v Speaker 1>him about the Wildcats win over Louisville and the trip

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<v Speaker 1>to New York to play in Madison Square Garden, a

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<v Speaker 1>trip that he might have made. Sean might have made

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<v Speaker 1>with the Wildcats, but they fell a little short in

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason n T. So we'll talk about that in

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<v Speaker 1>playing in bigger arenas like that, and not that Madison

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<v Speaker 1>Square Garden is bigger than rup, but it seems larger

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<v Speaker 1>than life. It's just a great, great atmosphere. A little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later on our Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Schiler, the former Wildcat. He's got that book still

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<v Speaker 1>out there that he actually wrote a couple of year

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and they started moving that moving the product

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty late twenty twenty two to twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>but just in time for Christmas. The Blonde Bomber. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a book you need to have in your UK collection.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's coming up a little bit later on Lots

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<v Speaker 1>of NFL news, a lot of quarterback news, as you

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<v Speaker 1>might expect, the Falcons making the biggest headline benching Kirk Cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy they backed up the truck for Kirk Cousins,

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<v Speaker 1>who was having a good time in Minnesota, but his

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<v Speaker 1>time there came to an end. Signs a huge deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the Falcons and this year has struggled. The Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>aren't as good as the Vikings. And look at what

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold's doing with the Vikings. He had bounced around

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<v Speaker 1>the league finally finds a home. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>he's their permanent answer, and as a Packers fan, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope not, but I have to give them credit. Cousins

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<v Speaker 1>played well, led the Vikings to a lot of wins.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald's doing the same. He didn't get the job done

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<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, and now Cousins has been benched and now

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Pennix Junior has been promoted to starter in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning of the first twelve picks in the twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four draft, it included six quarterbacks, five are starting with

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<v Speaker 1>checkered results. Caleb Williams first overall going to the Bears.

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<v Speaker 1>He has had some real struggles down the stretch after

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<v Speaker 1>getting off to a really good start. Commanders Jaden Daniels

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<v Speaker 1>Heisman Trophy winner out of LSU. They've won nine games.

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<v Speaker 1>They were terrible last year. Bo Nicks twelfth overall. Talked

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<v Speaker 1>about him yesterday, washed out at Auburn. He didn't really

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<v Speaker 1>play that poorly, but he kind of got run out

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<v Speaker 1>of town, if you will, by fans, by media, coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>gave up on him. Ends up in the Pacific Northwest,

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<v Speaker 1>does a great job, and now he's doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you got to be a rookie of the

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<v Speaker 1>year quite frankly in Denver and Drake May who took

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<v Speaker 1>over for mac Jones. He was the third overall pick

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<v Speaker 1>by the Patriots and they finally got around to starting

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<v Speaker 1>him in week six and he's done well. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before, by the way, the only guy

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<v Speaker 1>who hasn't played, JJ McCarthy, the tenth overall pick out

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<v Speaker 1>of Michigan, led the Wolverines to a national title. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't played because he had a knee injury in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wouldn't have played anyway because Darnold's playing well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've talked about this before. The days when you

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<v Speaker 1>could groom and develop a rookie quarterback are long gone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I go back to the Carson Palmer days in

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati when the Bengals drafted him with their number one

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<v Speaker 1>pick and they basically red shirted him. They let him

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<v Speaker 1>sit or made him sit, depending on how you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it. He didn't make a big deal out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a journeyman quarterback named John Kitna who actually

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<v Speaker 1>led the Bengals to a surprisingly good eight and eight record,

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<v Speaker 1>and they played well enough to where a kid that

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<v Speaker 1>complained the next year that he should have been given

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to start again. Bengals were like, now we're good,

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<v Speaker 1>we got our guy, Thanks goodbye. But that allowed Carson

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<v Speaker 1>Palmer to learn how to be an NFL quarterback, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he took over, he did really well, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he would have had a superb career, but he

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<v Speaker 1>suffered that terrible knee injury in the playoffs against the Steelers,

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<v Speaker 1>was never quite the same, had a good career, ended

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<v Speaker 1>up in Arizona. But because he was able to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of work his way through all the things that a

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<v Speaker 1>rookie quarterback might encounter. Thanks to the fact that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he made a lot of money, but it's not crazy

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<v Speaker 1>money like it is now. The Bengals were not under

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<v Speaker 1>the gun to play him right away. You're paying this

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<v Speaker 1>guy all this money, you gotta play him now and

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<v Speaker 1>sell tickets and all that. So now they rushed these

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<v Speaker 1>rookies in now Atlanta. I didn't have to because it

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<v Speaker 1>had Cousins, And a lot of people blasted the Falcons

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<v Speaker 1>for paying all that money to Kirk Cousins only to

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<v Speaker 1>draft Michael Pennix junior. But now we'll see if it

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<v Speaker 1>pays off, because he's going to be your starter. Michael Vick,

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<v Speaker 1>a former NFL star, says he's taken a head coaching

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<v Speaker 1>job in Norfolk State. Another former NFL player who was

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<v Speaker 1>becoming a star. I thought it was Teddy Bridgewater. He

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<v Speaker 1>was off to a good start and then had that horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>horrible knee injury that nearly cost him his life. And

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<v Speaker 1>he came back and he played for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>he retired, and he just recently coached Miami Northwestern in

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<v Speaker 1>Florida to a state championship. His alma mater, but he

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<v Speaker 1>told the NFL network that he's planning to come back

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL. He said, that's the plan. My team

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<v Speaker 1>knows that's the plan. We wanted to win a state

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<v Speaker 1>championship and then coach goes back to the league sees

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. He said, then come back February and the

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<v Speaker 1>offseason and continue coaching high school football and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>how it plays out. So I guess he'll go and

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate and work out for teams and see if that works.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it doesn't, he's got a job back at

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<v Speaker 1>his alma mater, which now is a defending state champion

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<v Speaker 1>in the state of Florida. Other coaches on the move.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio has promoted Brian Smith to its head coach head

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<v Speaker 1>coaching job. He replaces Tim Albin, who's going on to Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 1>and I bring this up, he goes. Ohio was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the teams the Wildcats beat earlier this year when

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<v Speaker 1>things were going well. That Ohio team went on to

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight, and they played Jacksonville State Friday and

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<v Speaker 1>the Staff DNA Cure Bowl in Orlando that Bobcats team

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<v Speaker 1>led the back in scoring, yards per game and rushing

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<v Speaker 1>this season. But Kentucky had everything going when it beat

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky might be able to get seven or eight wins.

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<v Speaker 1>But we all know what happened after that. Liberty's Cayden

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<v Speaker 1>or Kiden Salter, a quarterback, is transferring to Colorado, which

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<v Speaker 1>to an undefeated season and a Fiesta Bowl appearance last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and he made some headlines. So now he's got a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to play for coach Prime out in Colorado. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple other notes, one other from the NFL. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Same production company that had made the apparently very popular

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<v Speaker 1>so they told the news station. Right before he went

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<v Speaker 1>would get a jersey instead. Later on, the Hornet said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>included bad decision making and poor communications. Simply put, we

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<v Speaker 1>turned the ball over and we apologize. Look, who thought

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<v Speaker 1>this was a great idea. That's what kills me about

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<v Speaker 1>situations like this. Generally you talk something like this through

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<v Speaker 1>and was nobody brave enough to say, hey, this is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look awful. That's the first thing that would have

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<v Speaker 1>come to my mind. I'm not saying I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a hero, but I would have said it to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have any idea how this is gonna look?

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<v Speaker 1>it gonna take to get out? About a minute and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. It's gonna be on Twitter before this kid

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<v Speaker 1>leaves the arena. How stupid can you get? And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the hornet's made good by the kid. But boy, they

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<v Speaker 1>lost you talk about a turnover. They lost a lot

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<v Speaker 1>in pr moves right before Christmas. I'm forget Reguard. Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Moe Cider. It is Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>which is when we visited with our unforgettable guard, Sean Wilts,

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<v Speaker 1>whose jersey hangs in the rafters of Rupp and Sean,

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<v Speaker 1>back when you were playing, went back and look, you

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<v Speaker 1>played in Indianapolis, you played in Cincinnati. I don't notice

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<v Speaker 1>you ever got to play a Madison Square garden, did

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<v Speaker 1>you or anywhere like that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we missed our chance, Dick. Remember the first year

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<v Speaker 2>we were playing, because our senior year we were playing

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<v Speaker 2>in the preseason n I T and we got upset

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<v Speaker 2>by Pitt at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah, you were looking forward to that, weren't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the coach was looking forward to it more than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when we got beat, we had all that

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<v Speaker 2>time off man and things were going on at the coliseum.

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<v Speaker 2>We had I'm talking about some of the rigorous practices

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<v Speaker 2>half or so. It wasn't fun, you know, not being

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you played Indian big arenas.

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<v Speaker 2>We played in the Hoosier Dome. You know, we played

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<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame, We played Indiana in high school. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what was big for us was you know, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to play every year at Hinklefield House, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's where that's what tournament was. Yeah, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what who who's your hysteria started?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>But I got a chance to play my section those regionals,

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<v Speaker 2>a semi state there, So I was fortunate a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, those are the biggest arenas that I

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<v Speaker 2>played in throughout my career. We were at Kentucky, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we played in the Big Four Classic at the Hoosier Dome.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the thing as a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well let's go back to Hinkle because I covered a

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<v Speaker 1>game there and then that You're right, you can just

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk in that building. You can just feel it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know how much we all love the Sweet

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen here in Kentucky, and I know you've been to that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think Indiana still until they screwed up their tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Indiana had it made when it came to

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<v Speaker 1>the their state tournament. What was that like playing at Hinkle, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's a tell all all because of the history.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you're talking about some of the greatest players

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<v Speaker 2>high school basketball players to ever play in the state

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<v Speaker 2>of Indiana played in that building, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>back when I played, it was still old. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to go down in the basement, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you had the locker room which wasn't a locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a locker room. You come up and you

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<v Speaker 2>play on a kind of you know, a floor that's

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<v Speaker 2>raised above so when you sit down on your bench,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to step down, so it's like you were

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<v Speaker 2>playing on the stage. And I mean it was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It was six blocks from my house. Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up right there, right around the corner, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>right around Butler University. So you know, I didn't move

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get a chance to go to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>except for when East Chicago would play down there in

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<v Speaker 2>the state tournament. Roosevelt Chicago, Washington Chicago, Roosevelt Girls. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, high school basketball in the state of Indiana's

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<v Speaker 2>like here. You travel a lot. You know, the town

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<v Speaker 2>shuts down when you involved in the state tournament and

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<v Speaker 2>you dry and you travel like the movie Hoosiers. That's

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<v Speaker 2>every that's every city in town who gets an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to play. See in Kentucky, you got sixteen teams that

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<v Speaker 2>play in your state tournament. Back then you only had

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<v Speaker 2>four teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Who made it the state tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you played at Hanko And then when they

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<v Speaker 2>stopped playing at Heinko, they moved it to Mark Square

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<v Speaker 2>Arena where the Pacers play. So you know Damon Bailey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who was like a richie farmer at that time. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>when he played in the state championship and won it,

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<v Speaker 2>they moved it to the Hoosier Doom and it got

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<v Speaker 2>watch Damn Bailey.

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<v Speaker 1>Clay what town was he from?

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<v Speaker 2>Bedford, North lawnch right outside of.

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<v Speaker 1>Blooming Yeah, because I remember when way back in the

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<v Speaker 1>day when k Wood Leedford was still with us. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a couple of seasons where we traveled in

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<v Speaker 1>a in a motor home, UH to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>football games, including Kentucky at IU. And I was driving,

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<v Speaker 1>took my turn driving, and we came back shown there's

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<v Speaker 1>a state road if you don't want to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the Interstate from from Bloomington back through Louisville, there's that

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know what's the number of the road, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He goes through all those little towns.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, oh yeah, yeah, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember we pulled up that's exactly right, and I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm driving, and here we come up to Bedford and

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<v Speaker 1>You'll appreciate this. Kay Wood was a was a barbecue

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<v Speaker 1>This was after the game, Kentucky got their butts kicked,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, but we went off. We got barbecue chicken

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<v Speaker 1>and cole slaw and you know, everything you'd want for

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<v Speaker 1>four bucks because it was town Day in Bedford, Indiana,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had the best time in the home of

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<v Speaker 1>Damon Bailey.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I played there. His he's three years you know,

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<v Speaker 2>two years younger than me. So when all the hight

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<v Speaker 2>came out about him, he was in the seventh grade,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Bob knighte sev so that that raised and

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<v Speaker 2>enhanced his his profile, his image, Yeah, his profile because

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<v Speaker 2>of what Bob Knight said. So here's this kid, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's looking, you know, want to see and we played them.

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<v Speaker 2>So his freshman year, which was my junior year, we

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<v Speaker 2>played him at our place, which we didn't have a home.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a home court. I had to go

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<v Speaker 2>play at Marshall High School or are into high school

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<v Speaker 2>play our home games.

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<v Speaker 4>So we played them.

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<v Speaker 2>At Marshall High School jam Pack, and we killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we really we destroyed them. It wasn't even

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So the next year my senior year, were ranked fourth

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<v Speaker 2>to third in the state and you know they're ranked

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever because of him, and I had four files

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<v Speaker 2>within five minutes of the First War.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was no way they were going to let

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<v Speaker 2>us win. And uh, they beat us. But that was

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<v Speaker 2>my first time going to Bedford North Lawrence. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you ever been to a high school game in Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>like the Anders at the Wigwam or the Marion Giants place,

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, we have some of the largest high

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<v Speaker 2>school arenas in America. You know, Newcastle High School with

419
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<v Speaker 2>Steve out for play, is the largest high school gym

420
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<v Speaker 2>in the United States. So that gym is like a mecca.

421
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<v Speaker 2>You know, there was no small high school gyms and

422
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<v Speaker 2>his for a small town like that, I'm thinking we

423
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<v Speaker 2>were in playing a little cracker box. His gym was

424
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<v Speaker 2>amazing and it was nothing but red, white and blue.

425
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<v Speaker 2>And you know down there in that part of the state,

426
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<v Speaker 2>you know, down by Martinsville, you know, it's tough place

427
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<v Speaker 2>and they got it. They got us good. But yeah,

428
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<v Speaker 2>Bedford is a is a historical place, specifically because of

429
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<v Speaker 2>Damon Bailey. It was just like you know, if you

430
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<v Speaker 2>go to Clay County, it's the home of Richie Farmer.

431
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<v Speaker 2>You know, you go down there and you play that

432
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<v Speaker 2>place and not too many people come out of there

433
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<v Speaker 2>would win. I don't know if Richie Farmer ever lost

434
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<v Speaker 2>a game at home, but anyway, and I don't think

435
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Damon ever lost a game at home. But you know,

436
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 2>he had some tough teams to play around. You know,

437
00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you have Blueton South, you know, with Pat Knight and

438
00:25:55.519 --> 00:25:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Chris Laws and all those guys. So you know he

439
00:25:59.039 --> 00:26:01.519
<v Speaker 2>was surrounded by, you know, good teams and good players

440
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.839
<v Speaker 2>and things like that. But yeah, you know, arenas in

441
00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:07.960
<v Speaker 2>the state of Indiana I was used to, so I

442
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, playing in a big arena like rut really

443
00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 2>wasn't you know that intimidating because I've been playing you know,

444
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.799
<v Speaker 2>large arenas in high school, you know, for four years.

445
00:26:19.559 --> 00:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>How upset were you? Or disappointed? I guess is the word.

446
00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:25.160
<v Speaker 1>When they screwed around with the format and ruined the

447
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<v Speaker 1>Indiana State Tournament.

448
00:26:27.480 --> 00:26:28.319
<v Speaker 4>It's still bad.

449
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it lost every all of them. A speak

450
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:36.279
<v Speaker 2>of who's your hysteria, you know, and they were talking about, well,

451
00:26:36.319 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 2>we did it because some of the small schools could

452
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<v Speaker 2>have an opportunity to win. Well, that's who was winning

453
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:45.720
<v Speaker 2>the state tournament. Smaller towns it wasn't the Indianapolis that

454
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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Monsies. You know, you were munsies, not

455
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.759
<v Speaker 2>even big town. You got Mussey south of Mussey Central, yeah,

456
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:53.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, but and you got one town, Marion. You know,

457
00:26:54.960 --> 00:26:58.359
<v Speaker 2>that's just you know, one school. So those were the

458
00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.759
<v Speaker 2>schools that were winning the state tournament. It wasn't the

459
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:04.079
<v Speaker 2>city schools. It wasn't Indianapolis, it wasn't the Gary, it

460
00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 2>wasn't you know, the Fort Wayne's right, And so you

461
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.960
<v Speaker 2>still have rivalries. You had each Chicago Washington versus Chicago

462
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:15.960
<v Speaker 2>worlds a belt. Then they merged that. You know, you

463
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>had the North Central Conference with Newcastle which had Steve

464
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<v Speaker 2>Afford and Marion had James black Man, and the City

465
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.759
<v Speaker 2>who had Troy Lewis and Michigan City Rogers who had

466
00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 2>del Ray Brooks. You know, you had the city schools.

467
00:27:30.880 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>You know that you had George McGinnis going up, you know,

468
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the downings, and you know, you just hear the stories

469
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:43.000
<v Speaker 2>go on and on and on. Now the rivalries aren't

470
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:46.039
<v Speaker 2>the same, they're not in the same class. The crowds

471
00:27:46.079 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 2>have kind of decimated, and it's just not the same

472
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:53.480
<v Speaker 2>kick anymore. So you know, it's just changed, and it's

473
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>unfortunate they're making more money. I think Indiana high school

474
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:01.200
<v Speaker 2>basketball from a historical standpoint, it is still strong. I

475
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 2>think the.

476
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.839
<v Speaker 5>Indiana high school basketball compared to Kentucky basketball just I

477
00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 5>was just so disappointed, Like I tell people all the time,

478
00:28:09.759 --> 00:28:12.559
<v Speaker 5>at how Indiana.

479
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, being a Kentucky All Stars that you know

480
00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>you're going to play at the Indiana All Stars has

481
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:20.319
<v Speaker 2>just gone down.

482
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:20.759
<v Speaker 3>You know.

483
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I went to the game at like I said, at

484
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Lexton capl this past student in the Kentucky All Star Game,

485
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>and they weren't five hundred people now, and then you

486
00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:32.400
<v Speaker 2>go to Indiana and that's still six seven thousand. That's right,

487
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:34.319
<v Speaker 2>that's showing up at the Indian of Kentucky.

488
00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Office and we all like to brag about our high

489
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>school basketball here, but no, you're you're absolutely right.

490
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

491
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>And they've tried, they tried through the years to screw

492
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>up our tournament. And thank God for the al Ah

493
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 1>because the All a has been a resounding success. I've

494
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 1>worked telecast, I've seen teams win and celebrate like like

495
00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:55.839
<v Speaker 1>it's Christmas morning. Uh. That's huge for the small schools,

496
00:28:55.839 --> 00:28:59.319
<v Speaker 1>No pun intended. They all I think saved the Kentucky

497
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Sweet sixteen. We could go four hours on that, but

498
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I got to get back to the Wildcats with Shawn Woods.

499
00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:07.119
<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that on the other side of the break.

500
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back, we're talking with

501
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Seawan Woods, the unforgettable guard. We kind of got off

502
00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 1>in a tangent, but I love talking about high school basketball,

503
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>especially with a guy who played at the highest level

504
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 1>in the state of Indiana and Nola and Kentucky. Sean

505
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:23.279
<v Speaker 1>knows both sides of the river. But I got to

506
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>ask you about the Wildcats. You and I talked last

507
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 1>week about the Louisville game. It's just another game, but

508
00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>it's important before we talk about what's coming up with

509
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State. What did you think of that game, Sean?

510
00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Because UFL was down some players but made it competitive

511
00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and shot the lights out from three point land, which

512
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 1>they hadn't done all year.

513
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know they were gonna get it. They got

514
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.359
<v Speaker 2>a fiery coach, you know, who really wants to be

515
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:52.799
<v Speaker 2>in the mistique of.

516
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 4>The state, and.

517
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>He really wants to be a really good coach and

518
00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 2>have a really good program.

519
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.119
<v Speaker 3>At the university law I think the world of it.

520
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:04.559
<v Speaker 2>I think he's a you know, I think he's a

521
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>hard worker, and I think in time, you know, they're

522
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:10.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be pretty good. You know, Kentucky's just on

523
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>another level right now. I mean, mark popas his team

524
00:30:14.279 --> 00:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>playing as good as anybody in America. You know, even

525
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.319
<v Speaker 2>when they're playing bad, they're playing good. You know, they're

526
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>they're winning games and not playing great. I mean, you

527
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.519
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. But it's just how he has

528
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 2>these guys going from a mental standpoint. You know, when

529
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>he first got here, he's saying, you know, banner number nine,

530
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.079
<v Speaker 2>You're thinking, okay, yeah, you know, it's exciting. He's just

531
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 2>getting a job. He played here, right you know, you know,

532
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but he's he's getting it done.

533
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 4>You know.

534
00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I said before a couple of weeks ago,

535
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 2>Kentucky is playing more continuity, more together than any other

536
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>team in America, you know, and that's because of what

537
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>he does and his system. He's coaching his system and

538
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>not he's not worried about players yelling with each other.

539
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>He's worried about players buying into what he does and

540
00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.319
<v Speaker 2>the way they play. And he struck lightning in a

541
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 2>battle with the personnel from a personality standpoint, He's got

542
00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>all good guys and on the outside looking in you

543
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>thought you were thinking they were too nice. He's too nice.

544
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:26.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, you go to practice, you don't see a

545
00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>fiery guy. You don't see you know, a lot of

546
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 2>rye ride. You know, you see nothing but positivity. And

547
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:37.359
<v Speaker 2>like I tell you before, times have change. Then you

548
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 2>got to be able to relate to these kids. And

549
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 2>you know, if there's so much negativity with social media

550
00:31:44.039 --> 00:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and things like that going on in the world, that

551
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Marcus kind of going totally opposite and it's working. And

552
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm telling you right there, if there's a

553
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>team that's more happier and more cohesive than to tell

554
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.599
<v Speaker 2>a Wildcats they're cheating because this guy as pure as

555
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:07.559
<v Speaker 2>ivory snow, and his team is pure as ivory snow.

556
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And while everybody is trying to figure it out and

557
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>this and that, they're just going on alone and beating

558
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:19.519
<v Speaker 2>everybody that comes in front of them. And it's very impressive.

559
00:32:19.839 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>You were talking about how things have changed, coaches have changed.

560
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite stories about Rick Patino involves you

561
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even know if you remember this, but

562
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>you and I were at Rupperina during the Inside Tournament

563
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:37.480
<v Speaker 1>in twenty oh seven. It happened to be the year

564
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>that Billy Gillespie's A and M team upset Louisville, but

565
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the two days prior to that, Louisville had won, A

566
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:46.839
<v Speaker 1>and M had won. So I went into the Louisville

567
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 1>locker room to get a couple of interviews. You went

568
00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 1>in to say hello to coach Patino, and he hadn't

569
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>seen you in a while, and at first it took

570
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.839
<v Speaker 1>him a second to recognize you. But I remember we

571
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>walked in together, and I remember you told me later

572
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.119
<v Speaker 1>on you heard one of the Louisville players holler across

573
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.319
<v Speaker 1>the locker room, Hey, coach, what time does the bus leave?

574
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.079
<v Speaker 1>And you said you instinctively ducked. You remember that, You

575
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of you you flinched. You thought, Oh, this guy's

576
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna get it good. You thought, this guy it doesn't

577
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>know when the bus is leaving, and he's going to

578
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hear it from coach p and Patino shrugged. He goes

579
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>about fifteen minutes, and you thought to yourself, Wow, things

580
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.319
<v Speaker 1>have changed. I don't know if you remember that story,

581
00:33:30.319 --> 00:33:33.519
<v Speaker 1>but that is stuck with me. You talk about people changing.

582
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 7>That was huge, it was you know, and he's changed

583
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.200
<v Speaker 7>even more now what he tolerates and you know what's important,

584
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:45.319
<v Speaker 7>what's not important.

585
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 2>Nowadays, you know, you can't be sticker with everything. You know,

586
00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 2>it's so much going on, and these guys got so

587
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>many things going on. I mean, you know, when I

588
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 2>played for coach, it was you win, you lose. You

589
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.079
<v Speaker 2>put your clothes on, you take your shower, you get

590
00:34:01.079 --> 00:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>your hat. On the bus, you know, you may say

591
00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:05.559
<v Speaker 2>something to your parents about four or five minutes, even

592
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:07.680
<v Speaker 2>if it's a rope. I mean, especially on the road,

593
00:34:09.719 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>because you were so scared.

594
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:11.360
<v Speaker 4>Of being late.

595
00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 2>And nowadays you know, he's just whatever. You know what

596
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Okay, you guys ready to go? Okay, you're

597
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>not okay? Okay, you know he'll sit there. Whereas if

598
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 2>he beats you on that bus you left and then

599
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.559
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get a tongue lash and whenever he got

600
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:30.840
<v Speaker 2>to you.

601
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:33.159
<v Speaker 4>These have changed.

602
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>But you know, going back to Mark Pope and the

603
00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>way he does things, you know, it's just so refreshing.

604
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a coach and I'm only where I've been, you know,

605
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 2>and I I played under coach Patino and I knew

606
00:34:47.239 --> 00:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>that motivated us. I knew that, you know, being tough,

607
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:55.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, putting kids in situations to when the get

608
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 2>to make the game easier. And those days are over

609
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.360
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, you know, except for like you know,

610
00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:07.039
<v Speaker 2>a couple of coaches, you know, the Calvin Sampson's and

611
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the Danny Hurlees of the world. They can still get

612
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>away with that, you know. But Mark is just a

613
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 2>positive guy and it just loves through his program with

614
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>his coaches, his players, and you know the thing that

615
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:24.800
<v Speaker 2>he's just harping on more so than anything.

616
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.119
<v Speaker 4>And these guys.

617
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Who are actual strangers to Kentucky basketball coming from different places,

618
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 2>have they bought in to the tradition of Kentucky basketball

619
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.639
<v Speaker 2>and what's that state? And they're just buying in to

620
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:43.760
<v Speaker 2>try their best to win a national championship. I just

621
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.400
<v Speaker 2>think that it's.

622
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:50.320
<v Speaker 8>It's scary for other teams, it really is, because their

623
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:53.679
<v Speaker 8>deal is is they are playing for the name on

624
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.599
<v Speaker 8>the front of their jersey, where a lot of kids,

625
00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:59.119
<v Speaker 8>especially at the high majors, are playing for the enough

626
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<v Speaker 8>letters on the back of their jersey trying to get

627
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<v Speaker 8>to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've only got a couple of minutes left. But

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<v Speaker 1>you were talking about how well Kentucky is playing together. Uh,

630
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you got Ohio State coming up. But do you got

631
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<v Speaker 1>a couple of teams in the SEC sean that are

632
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>playing together really well? And that's Auburn and Tennessee when

633
00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you look ahead. I don't know if Kentucky has more talent,

634
00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>but I do believe the way Kentucky plays will give

635
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:25.920
<v Speaker 1>those teams all they want.

636
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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree, No doubt about it. You know the

637
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>only thing that scares me about those two teams is

638
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:36.440
<v Speaker 2>they can finish games. I didn't think that. The reason

639
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>why you know, I predicted us being Duke because I

640
00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:41.039
<v Speaker 2>thought Duke was too young to finish.

641
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:41.360
<v Speaker 7>The game, right.

642
00:36:41.719 --> 00:36:45.639
<v Speaker 2>The reason why I thought they'd beaton Zaga is because

643
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I thought the point guard situation. I really am in

644
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.119
<v Speaker 2>love with Butler. I think Butler is the most underrated

645
00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.280
<v Speaker 2>point guard in America, and he's definitely the most underrated

646
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.039
<v Speaker 2>point guard in the SEC, and teams are going to

647
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:01.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, God forbid he has any more injuries. I

648
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:05.320
<v Speaker 2>just think he's gonna win the point guard battle against everyone.

649
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 2>And when you win the point guard battle nine times

650
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:11.719
<v Speaker 2>out of ten, you're gonna win the game. So that's

651
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:15.519
<v Speaker 2>my reason for them. And it's gonna go back to

652
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:18.280
<v Speaker 2>the Ohio State situations. Ohio State good, yeah. Are they

653
00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:21.159
<v Speaker 2>one of the top teams in the Big then, probably so.

654
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:25.119
<v Speaker 2>But are they better than Kentucky? No? Are they are,

655
00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.079
<v Speaker 2>as can he COHESI as a Kentucky team. No. Only

656
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 2>way you get Kentucky is some way if you're gonna

657
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:33.679
<v Speaker 2>be in the game and you're winning the game. I

658
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.280
<v Speaker 2>told Mark this last time I went to practice, was

659
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.159
<v Speaker 2>teams are scared of you now simply because they know that,

660
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>no matter what the score is at halftime, sooner or later,

661
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:47.480
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna come. And it plays mind games with them,

662
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>I thought, because Zaga just stopped playing, you know, I thought, Duke,

663
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the last minute and a half, they

664
00:37:54.000 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't stop playing, but there, you you know, kind of

665
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:02.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, took over look. And if you the only

666
00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.920
<v Speaker 2>two teams in our league that are like that right

667
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>now are Tennessee in Auburn. I think they're tough enough

668
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.360
<v Speaker 2>to finish games down to stretch with everyone else. I

669
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>think Kentucky can get you know, I bet on Kentucky

670
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>ten out of ten times. Tennessee and Auburn you know

671
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a toss up. But if they played twice, I

672
00:38:23.480 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>think Kentucky can split with both of them. And that's

673
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 2>what's gonna make the SEC Tournament that much more interesting,

674
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:33.239
<v Speaker 2>is because those are gonna be the top three teams

675
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 2>at the deal. I think Kentucky's gonna get buys and

676
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>fans are gonna get the state till Saturday and hopefully Sunday.

677
00:38:39.559 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good to me, Coach, Always a pleasure. I enjoyed

678
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>the talking about high school basketball with you as well,

679
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>and we'll do it more down the road. Thank you, coach.

680
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Have a great weekend.

681
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Dick.

682
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:51.559
<v Speaker 4>Talk to you so litery.

683
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>I remember two with JR. Van Houston, West End via Chief.

684
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>Gary Moore is up next here on the Big Blue

685
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 1>Sider six point thirty. Wlap joined us on our Celebrity

686
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:03.159
<v Speaker 1>Hotline as a guy he's been on our show before

687
00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and I've known him for a long long time. He

688
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 1>is Jay Schiler, who of course played for the national

689
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>championship team back in the late seventies. You know him

690
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>as White Lightning. You also know him as an author,

691
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 1>A Blonde Bomber A Ride with Shied his book. We'll

692
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:19.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about that in a few minutes. But Jay, I've

693
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.400
<v Speaker 1>been following you on Twitter, and you like what you

694
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.280
<v Speaker 1>see in this Kentucky team, don't you.

695
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.000
<v Speaker 4>I do, Dick, I really do.

696
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 3>First of all, just I want to say thanks for

697
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>getting me involved this afternoon, But no I have. I

698
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 3>haven't got to see, you know, all the games from

699
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:44.079
<v Speaker 3>start to end, but I've seen enough of the of

700
00:39:44.119 --> 00:39:47.519
<v Speaker 3>the games that I really like what I see. I mean,

701
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, to take some guys that nobody really virtually

702
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:54.880
<v Speaker 3>ever heard of, which is different in the past, but

703
00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:58.639
<v Speaker 3>he's got him going, man, and I really like what

704
00:39:58.679 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 3>I see.

705
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.000
<v Speaker 4>I like the way they play it.

706
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you tweeted about Lamont Butler after the Louisville game,

707
00:40:04.519 --> 00:40:07.639
<v Speaker 1>and I guess he might have been the highest of

708
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.159
<v Speaker 1>profile because he played in the Final four. But you know,

709
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:12.599
<v Speaker 1>with all due respects San Diego State a guy known

710
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>for defense, So yeah, he wasn't you know, on everybody's radar,

711
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 1>But you like you like him a lot, don't you?

712
00:40:18.199 --> 00:40:18.559
<v Speaker 4>I do?

713
00:40:18.639 --> 00:40:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I do, And he had a great game against Louisville.

714
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 3>But I just like, you know, I like the guys

715
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 3>that they seem to be working really hard for Coach

716
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Pope and they look like they're having fun playing with

717
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 3>one another. And uh, you know the car kid, I like,

718
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:38.199
<v Speaker 3>I like his intensity, I like his effort up and down.

719
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.000
<v Speaker 3>They both ends of four, but the top you know,

720
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>four or five guys. I mean they've got six guys

721
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>average in double figures, So you know what does that

722
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:47.800
<v Speaker 3>tell you? But I love the way they're sharing the ball.

723
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's like they really don't care who gets it,

724
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:53.519
<v Speaker 3>just as long as they get it, you know.

725
00:40:53.840 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And as you mentioned, this was a bunch of

726
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:02.119
<v Speaker 1>guys who were good players. No one was superstar, and

727
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>he had to kind of cobble this team together and

728
00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:08.920
<v Speaker 1>it's it was a first in a history of Kentucky basketball.

729
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:10.559
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of hard to imagine, isn't it.

730
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is because most of the people that that

731
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.880
<v Speaker 3>go to Kentucky. Of course, you know, you've heard about

732
00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.000
<v Speaker 3>him for a year or two. And that's not taking

733
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:22.679
<v Speaker 3>anything away from these guys, now.

734
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean you know that.

735
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean they've had good years and stuff. And like

736
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.119
<v Speaker 3>you said, the one the brother kid played in the Final.

737
00:41:27.840 --> 00:41:29.079
<v Speaker 4>Four a couple of years.

738
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.119
<v Speaker 3>Ago or so, so, but you know it's just, uh,

739
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Mark has has has has shown that he doesn't need

740
00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the one and done's the big name people, the five

741
00:41:40.880 --> 00:41:43.400
<v Speaker 3>star recruits, and these guys probably were coming out of

742
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>high school, a lot of them. But you know, it's

743
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 3>it's it's been very impressive the way he's got him

744
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:51.599
<v Speaker 3>playing and the way he's got him motivated.

745
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 1>You played back in the day before there was a

746
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.840
<v Speaker 1>three pointer, before there was a shot clock. Even though

747
00:41:56.840 --> 00:42:00.199
<v Speaker 1>people may not realize, your coach joe By Hall was

748
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.360
<v Speaker 1>a great proponent of both because he would coach, as

749
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 1>you know, over in the clinics in Europe, and he

750
00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>came back and he had he loved the big man

751
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:13.360
<v Speaker 1>attack and he hated to see defenses crashing on his bigs,

752
00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.199
<v Speaker 1>and he thought a three pointer would open up the game,

753
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>which it has. But this is a coach Jay who

754
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 1>wants his team to shoot thirty five threes a game.

755
00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:24.159
<v Speaker 1>You would have loved that, wouldn't you.

756
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 4>I was not much sneezed at that. No.

757
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:32.519
<v Speaker 3>You know, Mark played for Patino, and you know he

758
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.559
<v Speaker 3>had a pretty wide open system, you know, and everything,

759
00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:36.880
<v Speaker 3>and they had the guys to be able to do that,

760
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 3>and and of course we.

761
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 4>Had guys back in the day to be able to

762
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 4>do that too. But you know, coach was.

763
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:48.639
<v Speaker 3>Was more of a I think he leaned more for

764
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 3>a European type thing, get it down low, get it

765
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:53.800
<v Speaker 3>to the big guys, which we had, you know, Mike

766
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.760
<v Speaker 3>and Rick and Sam and those guys through the four years.

767
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 4>So but you know, we could play any.

768
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Style basically, especially the championship year, it didn't matter. We

769
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:05.840
<v Speaker 3>had enough talent to be able to slow it down

770
00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:09.920
<v Speaker 3>or run or you know, and and teams, teams had

771
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 3>to adjust to us more so than we have them

772
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>to adjust to them. But no, I mean, you know,

773
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 3>Coach Pope, it's wide open thirty five you know, once

774
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.079
<v Speaker 3>thirty five threes.

775
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.119
<v Speaker 4>A game, and that's fine. I mean they're knocking them down.

776
00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're you know, they're shooting thirty five thirty

777
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.039
<v Speaker 3>six percent from threes, and they're shooting fifty percent from

778
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 3>the field as a team almost, So it's really been

779
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 3>fun to watch.

780
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:36.679
<v Speaker 1>You're a bit younger than I am, but I know

781
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:39.199
<v Speaker 1>you're an old school basketball guy, or are you? How

782
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 1>do you feel about analytics because Mark Pope constantly refers

783
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to them, and sometimes I think analytics are a reflection

784
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>of what has gone on, but sometimes they can help

785
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you decide on what you want to do. Where do

786
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:55.519
<v Speaker 1>you come down on that?

787
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll agree with that.

788
00:43:58.119 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't really know that much about it,

789
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:01.719
<v Speaker 3>and of course, you know, we didn't really look to

790
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 3>that any at all, uh in the past. But uh,

791
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:10.039
<v Speaker 3>it's you know, it's it's today's game, and so many

792
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.039
<v Speaker 3>people are looking those those kind of numbers. And I

793
00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 3>guess you know, right when he gets right down to it,

794
00:44:13.920 --> 00:44:17.320
<v Speaker 3>numbers on live. But you know, I hate to rely

795
00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:20.440
<v Speaker 3>on that, but you know, like I said, a lot

796
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 3>of teams are looking at that now and and uh,

797
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 3>the successful teams like like Kentucky this year are h

798
00:44:28.519 --> 00:44:31.639
<v Speaker 3>are proven that it's you know, it's something to think about.

799
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Jay Schiler, former Kentucky guard, he is, of

800
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.280
<v Speaker 1>course the author of Blonde Bomber, we're going to talk

801
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>about his autobiography, which actually came out last year but

802
00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>just in time for Christmas. But we are talking about

803
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.079
<v Speaker 1>this Kentucky Wildcats team. Uh, when you were playing in

804
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 1>the SEC, there were tough teams in this conference. But sure,

805
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>of course Texas and Oklahoma weren't there. At Arkansas, South

806
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Carolina weren't there.

807
00:44:55.880 --> 00:44:58.519
<v Speaker 4>But right Missouri wasn't that's right.

808
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:02.519
<v Speaker 1>Missouri wasn't there, You're correct, But man, this conference, right,

809
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:04.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've looked at the latest Power

810
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:09.000
<v Speaker 1>rankings or just the AP rankings, but the Southeastern Conference

811
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>is crazy tough this year, isn't it.

812
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.880
<v Speaker 3>It is? You know, and and even even the preseason,

813
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of those teams were in there.

814
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But guys, I mean you look and you've got five

815
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:22.119
<v Speaker 3>SEC teams in the top ten. You've probably got what

816
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 3>eight or nine in the top twenty five if not ten. Uh,

817
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:30.440
<v Speaker 3>But it's it's it's not really people want to look

818
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:33.880
<v Speaker 3>at it as a as a football conference, but I

819
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 3>think the last few years and over the years, I

820
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 3>mean you look at some of some of the teams

821
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:41.880
<v Speaker 3>that have come out. You know, Tennessee's been always been strong,

822
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:44.960
<v Speaker 3>LSU has always been strong, Gramma, you know those guys.

823
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.719
<v Speaker 3>And now you've got Texas and Oklahoma and Missouri and

824
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:51.519
<v Speaker 3>and like you said, you no, South Carolina wasn't wasn't

825
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 3>in the in the conference back then.

826
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 4>Either.

827
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:59.519
<v Speaker 3>But it's you know, the conference conferences, it's pretty strong.

828
00:45:59.559 --> 00:46:02.079
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's home as it's ever been, and it's been

829
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:05.000
<v Speaker 3>strong over the years. But I mean it's pretty impressed.

830
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.679
<v Speaker 3>And to see those teams in the top five ten, uh,

831
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing, and the whole conference is looking

832
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 3>really good.

833
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>It's got to eat yep to Tennessee's number one right now.

834
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I know it's killing Jack Gibbons, but uh, you know,

835
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 1>you get your chance to knock them off. But you

836
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.760
<v Speaker 1>know what's interesting, Jay, is teams are now doing what

837
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.039
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's done for years and years, and that's invest in basketball.

838
00:46:28.079 --> 00:46:31.840
<v Speaker 1>You guys lived in the lodge. You guys played in Ropperena.

839
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:34.079
<v Speaker 1>I believe you were part of the team that opened

840
00:46:34.119 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>up Rupperina and you make your career and rup Now

841
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you've got much better facilities. You've got you know, you know,

842
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>better salaries for coaches and assistants. So they're still trying

843
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 1>to catch up with Kentucky, aren't they?

844
00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.440
<v Speaker 4>I think so? But you know they're You're right.

845
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Some of the programs have have invested a lot started

846
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.639
<v Speaker 3>to invest a lot of money in the basketball program. Course,

847
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, football always takes precedents that make money in

848
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:05.039
<v Speaker 3>the university than any other sport. But no, and you

849
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 3>can tell you know, and now with nil money and everything,

850
00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:13.079
<v Speaker 3>the talent across the country has been spread out over

851
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 3>the last it has gotten better over the last twenty years.

852
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:18.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not twenty five years, you know. And it's just

853
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:21.800
<v Speaker 3>not your top top five or six handful of blue

854
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.800
<v Speaker 3>blood schools anymore. And which makes it great. I think,

855
00:47:24.880 --> 00:47:27.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, I love it that everybody's got a chance.

856
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Now it's not just you know, you don't have your

857
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Cinderella so to speak. Yeah, there are some come to

858
00:47:36.039 --> 00:47:39.039
<v Speaker 3>the tournament, but I mean, there's nothing like college basketball.

859
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.920
<v Speaker 3>And we were fortunate, you know, to have the things

860
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:44.000
<v Speaker 3>at Kentucky. Like you said, we lived in the lodge

861
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and that sort of thing. But more programs are.

862
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:50.719
<v Speaker 4>Putting that money into the program, and it.

863
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Tells getting back to the way this team plays. Before

864
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I rang you up, I got to think it about

865
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I think about this every once away. Your team, your

866
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:03.400
<v Speaker 1>championship team, and really, uh, the team you had later

867
00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 1>on when you were a junior and senior was Sam

868
00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Bouie and some of the other guys. But that championship

869
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:14.960
<v Speaker 1>team you Kyle Truman, klater Jack Tim Stevens coming off

870
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>your bench, Rick Roby could shoot the three. I mean,

871
00:48:18.039 --> 00:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I can can you imagine if you did have a

872
00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>three pointer?

873
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:24.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, we might have We might have averaged

874
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:27.719
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and fifty points. Well, yeah, I mean, you're

875
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:32.400
<v Speaker 3>right myself, Truman, Kyle, Tim Stevens coming off the bench, Well,

876
00:48:32.440 --> 00:48:33.079
<v Speaker 3>we could shoot it.

877
00:48:33.559 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 4>Mike Phillips could shoot it either. He thought he was

878
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 4>a point guard.

879
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:38.320
<v Speaker 3>You know, Mike thought he was a point guard anyway,

880
00:48:38.360 --> 00:48:42.239
<v Speaker 3>and he liked it getting out there in practice and shooting.

881
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:44.159
<v Speaker 4>What would have been beyond the you know, behind the

882
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 4>art and Dwayne you know, I mean it goes right

883
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:51.079
<v Speaker 4>on Milan, you know, it was one you know, it

884
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.039
<v Speaker 4>was uh uh.

885
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.320
<v Speaker 3>It was tough to say how would have gone since

886
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:58.000
<v Speaker 3>we didn't have it, but uh, it would have been

887
00:48:58.280 --> 00:49:00.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of interesting to see how we would have how

888
00:49:00.800 --> 00:49:02.599
<v Speaker 3>bad we would have beaten the show state.

889
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you might have. You might have won another trophy.

890
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 1>And before I hit the break. I don't know if

891
00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:11.199
<v Speaker 1>you've had a chance to watch segments of the game,

892
00:49:11.239 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>they haven't done it very often. He did it against Gonzaga.

893
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>But I asked Jack Givans about this. They go one

894
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:19.679
<v Speaker 1>three one, Kentucky goes one three one, and I told

895
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Jack immediately thought about you guys, And I told Jack,

896
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I thought about Jay schiler running the baseline. They had

897
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a big pope had a big on the baseline. But

898
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:31.199
<v Speaker 1>that was your job in a one three one running

899
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:32.719
<v Speaker 1>from corner to corner, wasn't it?

900
00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? It was?

901
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.719
<v Speaker 3>And and and actually priding that I loved playing down

902
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.760
<v Speaker 3>there underneath, covering from corner to corner, or at least

903
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:41.239
<v Speaker 3>trying to.

904
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:45.599
<v Speaker 4>Uh. But yeah, I mean we we would coach.

905
00:49:45.360 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Hall, especially that team and most of his teams, and

906
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 3>we had to play zone was always one three one

907
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.159
<v Speaker 3>hard they ever did it, you know, a two three

908
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 3>or anything, but we had it, you know, especially the

909
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 3>seventy eight year. I mean, we had we had the

910
00:49:56.880 --> 00:50:00.039
<v Speaker 3>one three one zone down to the science. And and

911
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:02.320
<v Speaker 3>but I you know, I did enjoy playing down under

912
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:05.920
<v Speaker 3>underneath and and because you've got to have I know,

913
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 3>you said Mark had had a big guy underneath there.

914
00:50:08.039 --> 00:50:11.039
<v Speaker 3>And that's fine, you know, if if if he's mobile enough,

915
00:50:11.079 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 3>and these guys nowadays.

916
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 4>Are are are able to get from corner to corner,

917
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 4>but you know, you've got to be able to get

918
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.119
<v Speaker 4>cover a lot of distance, more distance than anybody else

919
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:22.039
<v Speaker 4>in his own you know.

920
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:24.920
<v Speaker 3>So we had to have a We.

921
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:26.639
<v Speaker 4>Felt like we had to have a coach Hall.

922
00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Felt like we had to have a smaller guy down

923
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.840
<v Speaker 3>there to be able to cover that distance. And you know,

924
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.119
<v Speaker 3>it worked out pretty well for us, and for me,

925
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:33.960
<v Speaker 3>I say.

926
00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it did work. Uh, but I know every time

927
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you come out of it, he gave you a blow.

928
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So that was that was merciful. We're talking to Syler.

929
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, No, I was just going to say thank

930
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:46.079
<v Speaker 3>God to that.

931
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Jay Syler, former Kentucky gar We'll come back and talk

932
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.079
<v Speaker 1>about Jay's book just in time for Christmas. Here on

933
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>the Big Moon Sider six thirty w LAP Welcome back.

934
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Jay Schyler The Blonde Bomber, which is

935
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:02.119
<v Speaker 1>the name of his auto biography which came out actually

936
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.119
<v Speaker 1>almost two years ago. Uh. Blond Barmber a ride with

937
00:51:05.159 --> 00:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Shy that you wrote with Paul Coreo from here in town,

938
00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>and we thought we'd bring it up again just in

939
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:12.840
<v Speaker 1>time for Christmas. Good stocking stuff for the best way

940
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.519
<v Speaker 1>to find it really is on Amazon. You can get

941
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.559
<v Speaker 1>it hardcover, paperback, Kindle. And I've talked to you since

942
00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.840
<v Speaker 1>the book came out, and I know you're back in

943
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.960
<v Speaker 1>your hometown and you sold some books up there. What

944
00:51:26.079 --> 00:51:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was that like, Jay, when you came home and you

945
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.000
<v Speaker 1>really opened up in that book and it went back

946
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:33.280
<v Speaker 1>to your childhood. What was that like when people would

947
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 1>ask you about it?

948
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, Dick.

949
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.159
<v Speaker 3>Paul and I worked on it really hard, obviously, and

950
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.639
<v Speaker 3>I wanted it to be turned out the way I did,

951
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, I wanted to. I pretty much buried my

952
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.639
<v Speaker 3>soul in it. And and and a lot of people

953
00:51:49.679 --> 00:51:52.000
<v Speaker 3>didn't didn't understand some of the things that I talked

954
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 3>about in there, which is fine, you know, I just

955
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 3>wanted to tell my story. And and coming back here

956
00:51:57.480 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 3>in the reception that it got back here in southern

957
00:52:00.840 --> 00:52:05.360
<v Speaker 3>Illinois was just incredible. I've been so many places, so

958
00:52:05.360 --> 00:52:08.920
<v Speaker 3>many little towns and and uh so many smaller schools

959
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 3>around here Southern Illinois and Central Illinois that uh, people

960
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 3>were very receptive of it, and and uh, you know,

961
00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:18.480
<v Speaker 3>there were some questions about a few things, but you know, hey,

962
00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 3>that's why I wrote the book, you know, to try

963
00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:22.519
<v Speaker 3>to some of the people's questions that they may or

964
00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 3>may not have had. So uh, it's been it's been

965
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.199
<v Speaker 3>received very well, and and uh it's a good time,

966
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:31.960
<v Speaker 3>like you said, to to get a copy that for

967
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 3>a stocking stuff for this time of year, and and

968
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.360
<v Speaker 3>it's been you know, it's been going pretty good. Uh

969
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:39.480
<v Speaker 3>but you know, it was just I wanted I've just

970
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.840
<v Speaker 3>felt like I needed to tell my side of things

971
00:52:42.880 --> 00:52:45.599
<v Speaker 3>and and and and take ownership of the things, the

972
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.320
<v Speaker 3>mistakes that I made, and just you know, basically tell

973
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:51.480
<v Speaker 3>my side of the story and and and let some

974
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 3>people in on some things that they may or may not.

975
00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Have known about.

976
00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:56.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it wasn't easy, was it.

977
00:52:57.360 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 4>No, it wasn't. It wasn't remember some of the things,

978
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 4>and then and.

979
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Then kind of beating myself up again over some of

980
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 3>the things that I did wrong, and you know, but

981
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.639
<v Speaker 3>it was it was it was cathartic, you know, and

982
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad we did it and it turned out the

983
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:12.119
<v Speaker 3>way that it did.

984
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, as I was reading it, I knew a

985
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:19.480
<v Speaker 1>little bit here and there, but of course, uh not everything.

986
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was fascinating to me. But I just kept

987
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:25.480
<v Speaker 1>thinking to myself, you know, people, I'm sure who were

988
00:53:25.559 --> 00:53:28.800
<v Speaker 1>following Kentucky basketball when you were playing, this is a

989
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>great lesson that you know, these guys are more than athletes.

990
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>They're people. They've got their ups, they got their downs. Yeah,

991
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:39.199
<v Speaker 1>they're they're on a great ride, but that ride eventually ends,

992
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.599
<v Speaker 1>you know. And everybody's got issues, everybody's got problems. It's

993
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:46.119
<v Speaker 1>it's a great lesson for everybody to learn, isn't it.

994
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 3>Well it is And and my story is not unlike

995
00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:53.320
<v Speaker 3>a lot of other people's story in the same position.

996
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:58.079
<v Speaker 3>You know, I can guarantee, you know, But being being

997
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.519
<v Speaker 3>as the program of Kentucky and the and the and

998
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 3>the exposures that you have there, You're right, a lot

999
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:06.760
<v Speaker 3>of people don't see us in that uniform and don't

1000
00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:10.480
<v Speaker 3>really see us as as human beings, so to speak.

1001
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:13.840
<v Speaker 4>But everybody has their issues. Everybody's got to go through

1002
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 4>their stuff.

1003
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know, you're you're you're you're a teenager when

1004
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 3>you get to college and you're in your early twenties

1005
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:22.440
<v Speaker 3>when you get out, and and the changes that you

1006
00:54:22.559 --> 00:54:26.719
<v Speaker 3>go through and then and then after you stop playing, Yeah,

1007
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>everything comes to a halt and and and now you've

1008
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 3>got to you've got to with life as a normal human.

1009
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Being, so to speak.

1010
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:36.760
<v Speaker 3>And uh, it's it's hard for some people. It was

1011
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 3>hard for me to make the adjustment and everything, but uh,

1012
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:41.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, I had to go through it. God put

1013
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.639
<v Speaker 3>me through it for a reason and and and you know,

1014
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm glad that I'm I'm here in this position that

1015
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I am today to be able.

1016
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:49.880
<v Speaker 4>To talk about it.

1017
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I remember hearing Steve Young, the former quarterback Hall of

1018
00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Famer who's with the Niners, super Bowl champion, all that stuff. Uh,

1019
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and yet he talked about when his career was over.

1020
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember if you was wave cut, walked away, retire, whatever,

1021
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:09.519
<v Speaker 1>but he said, one day, literally, one day, you're part

1022
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.519
<v Speaker 1>of this fraternity, you're part of this very tightly knit club,

1023
00:55:13.800 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and the next day you're not. Uh, you know, and

1024
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.280
<v Speaker 1>and I know, I guess being a college basketball player

1025
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.079
<v Speaker 1>is a bit broader than being an NFL quarterback, of course,

1026
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's similar, isn't it. And that you know, you

1027
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:27.199
<v Speaker 1>live the life and then one day, like you said,

1028
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you just got to move on and that that can't

1029
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>be easy.

1030
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:32.000
<v Speaker 4>No, it's not.

1031
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:34.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, you get used to living a

1032
00:55:34.199 --> 00:55:38.320
<v Speaker 3>certain way and and and and having certain things at

1033
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:41.360
<v Speaker 3>your fingertips, so to speak, and then all of a

1034
00:55:41.400 --> 00:55:45.400
<v Speaker 3>sudden you don't have that and you're in the real world,

1035
00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 3>and and it takes it takes a certain kind of

1036
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:52.000
<v Speaker 3>person to be able to get through that, and to

1037
00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:54.559
<v Speaker 3>fight through that in my you know, in in my

1038
00:55:54.679 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 3>situation to be able to you know, to uh uh

1039
00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.280
<v Speaker 3>stick yourself up by the bootstraps and move on. And

1040
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 3>you get knocked down. But you know, being the athlete

1041
00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:09.400
<v Speaker 3>that I was, uh, you know, I never quit anything,

1042
00:56:09.519 --> 00:56:13.000
<v Speaker 3>and so you know it was I would you say

1043
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 3>it was easier for me to you know, to pick

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00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:17.360
<v Speaker 3>myself back up every time I got knocked down.

1045
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:18.639
<v Speaker 4>And I got knocked down plenty.

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00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:23.679
<v Speaker 3>But you know the bottom line is is that you

1048
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, you find it somewhere in your heart, you

1049
00:56:25.480 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 3>lean on God and you get through it somehow.

1050
00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, as we wrap this up, you were a tremendous

1051
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:34.199
<v Speaker 1>athlete in high school and in college, played a little

1052
00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:38.000
<v Speaker 1>bit of pro ball overseas. Uh yeah, you know according

1053
00:56:38.039 --> 00:56:39.559
<v Speaker 1>to the book. And I knew this about you when

1054
00:56:39.599 --> 00:56:42.719
<v Speaker 1>you were signed at Lawrenceville High School and growing up

1055
00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you were good at everything. So now at your tender age,

1056
00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you do? Do you do anything? You play golf,

1057
00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:50.800
<v Speaker 1>played tennis? How do you stay active?

1058
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 4>I don't stay that active anymore. I played golf up.

1059
00:56:57.880 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 3>Until probably eight or ten year years ago, and and

1060
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 3>the arthritis and my wrists and.

1061
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>They got to that. Uh.

1062
00:57:05.159 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 4>I even played.

1063
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.639
<v Speaker 3>Paid a little basketball up until maybe six seven, eight

1064
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:11.679
<v Speaker 3>years ago, and and that that got to be a

1065
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 3>little tough. But uh, you know, like you, I've had

1066
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.800
<v Speaker 3>some health issues in the last year ago. So but

1067
00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:21.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, I came through that fine knock on wood, thanks,

1068
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, thank the Good Lord for that. And and uh,

1069
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty much back to being as healthy as I

1070
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:28.519
<v Speaker 3>was before.

1071
00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:31.840
<v Speaker 4>So but I get much exercise. I try to walk.

1072
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:36.079
<v Speaker 3>A little bit and and that sort of thing. This

1073
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:37.920
<v Speaker 3>time of year is kind of tough because it's kind

1074
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:42.400
<v Speaker 3>of cold India. I never liked that, but uh, you know,

1075
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:43.400
<v Speaker 3>we we get by.

1076
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:44.559
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that I'm here.

1077
00:57:44.599 --> 00:57:46.800
<v Speaker 3>I can go to some high school football and basketball

1078
00:57:46.840 --> 00:57:49.840
<v Speaker 3>games and see some of my open classmates and stuff.

1079
00:57:49.880 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 4>So it's been really.

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00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Good being back up here. I I do miss Letchington

1081
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:56.519
<v Speaker 3>and I do miss the university, but you know, it

1082
00:57:56.639 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 3>is what it is, and and and life's moving. Life

1083
00:57:59.559 --> 00:58:03.079
<v Speaker 3>moves on, and you may deal with the best what

1084
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:03.719
<v Speaker 3>you got, you.

1085
00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Know, yep. And like me, I'm sure when the weather

1086
00:58:06.960 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is nicey, you appreciate it. Our age with our health history,

1087
00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.679
<v Speaker 1>you appreciate a good walk. So nothing wrong with that

1088
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Jay Siler. His book is Blonde Bomber, A Ride with Shide.

1089
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Pull it up on Amazon and there's plenty of time,

1090
00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:24.039
<v Speaker 1>but don't wait too long. Makes a great Christmas gift. Jay,

1091
00:58:24.039 --> 00:58:25.840
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much. I hope you get back to town

1092
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>soon and stay healthy.

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00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:29.440
<v Speaker 4>Man. I'm going to try Jacon.

1094
00:58:29.519 --> 00:58:31.519
<v Speaker 3>You do the same, and I'll let you know when

1095
00:58:31.559 --> 00:58:33.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm making back election, hoping I can get back there

1096
00:58:34.239 --> 00:58:35.360
<v Speaker 3>before this season's over.

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00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.960
<v Speaker 4>So I appreciate your time.

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00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 1>But welcome back to the Big Blue and Cider. Joining

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00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:41.920
<v Speaker 1>us now as our West End Bureau chief formerly our

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00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.199
<v Speaker 1>West Coast Bureau Chief, and Gary Moore joined us from

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00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, where I worked for many years covering sports

1102
00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:51.960
<v Speaker 1>for the likes of KALOS Radio, now the West End

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00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:54.400
<v Speaker 1>of I sixty four. Hey man, he's got a lot

1104
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.159
<v Speaker 1>on his mind. I can tell you that. Well.

1105
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.559
<v Speaker 6>Two guys in a six pack and we'll get right

1106
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:01.559
<v Speaker 6>to it here because I'm little perturb about something. Let's

1107
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 6>go back to last week. Dick Marshall football coach Charles

1108
00:59:05.039 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 6>Huff left the school in a version of his last

1109
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 6>name to become the head coach at another Sunbell school,

1110
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.159
<v Speaker 6>Crummy Southern Miss After his Marshall team won the conference,

1111
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.719
<v Speaker 6>they were headed to a bowl game with Army. So

1112
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:20.239
<v Speaker 6>this guy bolts for a one to eleven team, It's

1113
00:59:20.280 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 6>okay money Whorr. Then, as was the case, as the

1114
00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 6>rule state players on teams that lose their coach in

1115
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:31.679
<v Speaker 6>the offseason, he got a thirty day window to transfer.

1116
00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:35.119
<v Speaker 6>So what happens on top of the portal? So many

1117
00:59:35.119 --> 00:59:38.360
<v Speaker 6>players applied to transfer. Marshall down to forty five to

1118
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:41.440
<v Speaker 6>forty eight players. Not impossible to go to a bowl

1119
00:59:41.480 --> 00:59:43.880
<v Speaker 6>game with that few of players. LSU did it a

1120
00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.800
<v Speaker 6>couple three years ago, but they had to cancel bowl.

1121
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:50.239
<v Speaker 6>People scrambled to get nearby LA Tech to save the day.

1122
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Dick.

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00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.079
<v Speaker 6>If ever, there was a time for the NCAA to

1124
00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 6>a number one close the portal till a team's postseason bowls,

1125
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.360
<v Speaker 6>it's over and done with, even when a coach leaves,

1126
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.199
<v Speaker 6>this would be the case. This would be the time

1127
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.119
<v Speaker 6>to do it. And while they're at it, I got

1128
01:00:08.119 --> 01:00:10.519
<v Speaker 6>another idea for him. Why not do kind of what

1129
01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:14.400
<v Speaker 6>the NFL does no interviews with coaching candidates until after

1130
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.599
<v Speaker 6>said candidate's team is done with the playoffs or in

1131
01:00:16.599 --> 01:00:19.079
<v Speaker 6>this case, the bowl games. I mean if you really

1132
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:24.599
<v Speaker 6>care about the student athletes, he said smirkingly. And here's

1133
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:27.639
<v Speaker 6>a big middle finger to all the Marshall players thinking

1134
01:00:27.679 --> 01:00:31.519
<v Speaker 6>their power five. All power five players are gonna get

1135
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:34.239
<v Speaker 6>picked up by all these great teams. Stiffing not only

1136
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:37.920
<v Speaker 6>just another football team. You didn't just stiff a football team, guys,

1137
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.559
<v Speaker 6>You stiff men who are going to defend our country

1138
01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:43.639
<v Speaker 6>and maybe pay the ultimate price for doing it more

1139
01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:46.440
<v Speaker 6>than you can say, or we could say, for a

1140
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.480
<v Speaker 6>bunch of selfish quitters. Okay, I'll sit down now.

1141
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 1>You also stiff your fans. Yeah, you know the people

1142
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.559
<v Speaker 1>that you spend the entire season pointing out after you

1143
01:00:55.599 --> 01:00:58.559
<v Speaker 1>score a touchdown and sign an autograph. Oh we love

1144
01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:01.599
<v Speaker 1>the fans. Yeah, how about that? And again, this is

1145
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:06.719
<v Speaker 1>a Marshall football program that came literally from the ashes.

1146
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, it has that tradition going forward. You know,

1147
01:01:10.280 --> 01:01:13.360
<v Speaker 1>then entire program wiped out by a terrible plane crash

1148
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:16.119
<v Speaker 1>back in the seventies, and they shouldn't have to carry

1149
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 1>that weight. But being able to play there, and not

1150
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:21.440
<v Speaker 1>only has Marshall come all the way back and the

1151
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>one Double Abel on the one Double A level was

1152
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 1>a championship level team. It was gone d one and

1153
01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 1>the reward for players and fans is the bowl game.

1154
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I still like bowl games. I know how a lot

1155
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 1>of people feel about them, but yeah, I'm with you.

1156
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I think in lieu of prohibiting maybe one group of

1157
01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:43.920
<v Speaker 1>players from not being allowed to go into the portal,

1158
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:48.679
<v Speaker 1>change the calendar, move the portal date until after, because

1159
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:50.400
<v Speaker 1>if you change it for some, you get to change

1160
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 1>it for all. Or hey, we can't get into portal,

1161
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:54.679
<v Speaker 1>but these guys can. They're going to get all the

1162
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:56.840
<v Speaker 1>good schools. I think it's got to be the same

1163
01:01:56.880 --> 01:02:00.400
<v Speaker 1>for everybody, but make it, like you said, all that's

1164
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:01.800
<v Speaker 1>got to come after the season's over.

1165
01:02:02.719 --> 01:02:04.719
<v Speaker 6>I don't think I'm the only one or you're we're

1166
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 6>the only ones who think this.

1167
01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 1>Either coaches agree with us.

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01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, second swig in the six pack. We're gonna talk

1169
01:02:12.400 --> 01:02:14.719
<v Speaker 6>more about the Bountiful Bowl season in a bit, but

1170
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:17.880
<v Speaker 6>of course, the history making weekend ahead first ever twelve

1171
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:21.599
<v Speaker 6>team college playoffs. But as you and I know, something

1172
01:02:21.599 --> 01:02:24.360
<v Speaker 6>similar has been going on for decades. What we used

1173
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.760
<v Speaker 6>to call the one double A schools now the FCS programs.

1174
01:02:27.800 --> 01:02:30.079
<v Speaker 6>In fact, my Toppers were in it for several years.

1175
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:33.519
<v Speaker 6>Eastern Kentucky has won it before. Toppers I think got

1176
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:36.159
<v Speaker 6>to finals in seventy three and won it in two

1177
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 6>thousand and two.

1178
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Whither one A.

1179
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:42.159
<v Speaker 6>Or FBS colleges begin this weekend with four playoff games.

1180
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:45.760
<v Speaker 6>The FCS is down to the semifinals on Saturday afternoon

1181
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 6>and those are on TV. Biggest games, though, of course,

1182
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.360
<v Speaker 6>begin Friday night. South Bend Notre Dame a seven point

1183
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:56.119
<v Speaker 6>favorite over IU for Hoo's your state supremacy and the

1184
01:02:56.360 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 6>joy of getting to face Georgia in the next round. Look,

1185
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.400
<v Speaker 6>I used playing with house money. We're not even supposed

1186
01:03:03.400 --> 01:03:06.039
<v Speaker 6>to be there, so I say the pressure, all the

1187
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.719
<v Speaker 6>pressure is on the Golden Domers at home. Then on Saturday,

1188
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:13.960
<v Speaker 6>in order, starting at high noon, you got SMU eight

1189
01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:17.519
<v Speaker 6>and a half point dog at Penn State Clemson and

1190
01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.639
<v Speaker 6>eleven and a half point dog at Texas that are

1191
01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:22.760
<v Speaker 6>in school down nine to seventy five, seven and a half

1192
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.800
<v Speaker 6>point dog at Ohio State. There's two games on ABC

1193
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:28.719
<v Speaker 6>two on TNT check your listings. I'm gonna take Texas.

1194
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.599
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna take SMU at Penn State. Wow, take the

1195
01:03:32.679 --> 01:03:35.159
<v Speaker 6>I'm going to take the Valls to beat the buck

1196
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.880
<v Speaker 6>guys and yes, I got the IU Hoosiers to shock

1197
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:43.320
<v Speaker 6>the naysayers. If Indiana can hold Notre Dame to under

1198
01:03:43.360 --> 01:03:45.320
<v Speaker 6>two hundred yards rushing.

1199
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Well i'll give you that. If they do, I think

1200
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:49.639
<v Speaker 1>they got a great shot at winning. But I take

1201
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.559
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame in that one, no offense. I kind of

1202
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:56.159
<v Speaker 1>hope Indiana wins. That'd be a great story. Yeah, I

1203
01:03:56.599 --> 01:03:59.239
<v Speaker 1>happen to I like Penn State. I hate to say it.

1204
01:03:59.280 --> 01:04:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I grew up a Penn State fan, not a huge

1205
01:04:01.000 --> 01:04:04.960
<v Speaker 1>James Franklin fan. And you know, working in ill Southwest Conference,

1206
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.599
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see smu win. I'm with you about

1207
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.119
<v Speaker 1>Texas and I'm with you about Tennessee. That's going to

1208
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.960
<v Speaker 1>be all orange toward the end of the day.

1209
01:04:15.039 --> 01:04:17.079
<v Speaker 6>Third swig in a six pack. Okay, let's go back

1210
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.239
<v Speaker 6>to a borgus a Smorgas board of bowling. Easy for

1211
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 6>me to say right now on one of the local

1212
01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:29.599
<v Speaker 6>cable channels, WKU Hilltoppers into the second half against James Madison.

1213
01:04:29.639 --> 01:04:32.960
<v Speaker 6>That's down in the Boca Ratone Bowl tomorrow night at Crumming,

1214
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:35.679
<v Speaker 6>New Orleans Bowl. Doesn't stand a ratings chance against Thursday

1215
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:37.440
<v Speaker 6>Night Football. What a great game this is going to

1216
01:04:37.480 --> 01:04:41.480
<v Speaker 6>be Broncos at the Chargers Friday at noon in Orlando.

1217
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 6>You got the Cure Bowl, Ohio, it's Jacksonville State. Then

1218
01:04:45.199 --> 01:04:48.159
<v Speaker 6>at three point thirty, this is a nice appetizer before

1219
01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:51.559
<v Speaker 6>I you and Notre Dame Tulane in Florida in Tampa's

1220
01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 6>Gasparilla Bowl. No bowl game Saturday and Sundays. Who has

1221
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.480
<v Speaker 6>to not compete with college playoffs NFL games on both

1222
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:01.199
<v Speaker 6>of those days. Monday the Myrtle Beach and Idaho Potato Bowls.

1223
01:05:01.239 --> 01:05:03.280
<v Speaker 6>They're neither neither one of those are worth watching. I

1224
01:05:03.320 --> 01:05:06.239
<v Speaker 6>don't think unless you're really desperate. Hawaii Bowl, same deal.

1225
01:05:06.280 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 6>That's Christmas Eve. None on Christmas Day, and then things

1226
01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:10.880
<v Speaker 6>pick back up the day after Christmas. But I want

1227
01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:14.000
<v Speaker 6>to give you a heads up, Dick Gabriel, your personal favorite.

1228
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 1>The pop Tarts Bowl.

1229
01:05:15.559 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, one week, one week from Saturday, the twenty eighth

1230
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:22.639
<v Speaker 6>in Orlando. Two teams in this one that had field

1231
01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:26.559
<v Speaker 6>of twelve aspirations now relegated to a bowl whose trophy

1232
01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:31.000
<v Speaker 6>actually features a working toaster that they'll be popping some

1233
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:33.480
<v Speaker 6>pop tarts and honestly, god, I've got a picture of this.

1234
01:05:33.519 --> 01:05:35.840
<v Speaker 6>Posted at nine to five to five, Gary on Twitter,

1235
01:05:36.159 --> 01:05:40.079
<v Speaker 6>Iowa State and Miami. And as funny as it sounds

1236
01:05:40.159 --> 01:05:42.639
<v Speaker 6>with that trophy, it's nowhere near as funny as Jerry

1237
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:47.400
<v Speaker 6>Seinfeld's Unfrosted movie celebrating said pop tarts the funniest movie

1238
01:05:47.440 --> 01:05:49.559
<v Speaker 6>of the year. I don't care what any critics said

1239
01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:51.920
<v Speaker 6>who didn't get over the top comedy. Watch it if

1240
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:53.280
<v Speaker 6>you don't want to watch the football game.

1241
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:56.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, I just watched that again. I just pulled

1242
01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:01.199
<v Speaker 1>it up just Doug, Netflix or wherever it is outstanding. Yeah,

1243
01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you're right. How'd you like to be the Bowl officials who?

1244
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I think they were stuck with

1245
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 1>that time slot. The worst NFL games on Thursday outdra

1246
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:12.719
<v Speaker 1>all the best college football games. But that's where we are.

1247
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.119
<v Speaker 1>You know, this Ohio team turned out to be really good,

1248
01:06:16.159 --> 01:06:19.000
<v Speaker 1>had a really good season, and this is a team

1249
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky destroyed back when Kentucky looked like it had some promise.

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01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:26.800
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be a head scratcher until next year begins.

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01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:29.519
<v Speaker 1>How much would you love to see John Sumrall, the

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01:06:29.519 --> 01:06:35.239
<v Speaker 1>head coach at TWU Lane, knock off Florida because John

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01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe John was playing when Kentucky had snapped

1254
01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:41.960
<v Speaker 1>that string against the Gators. So wouldn't it be great

1255
01:06:41.960 --> 01:06:44.039
<v Speaker 1>if he could beat Florida as a coach And you

1256
01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:46.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about a hot property, He's already hot. But if

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01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 1>he could beat Florida, oh man, And yeah, I thought

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01:06:50.239 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the Pop Tar Bowl. And by the way, it depends

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01:06:52.800 --> 01:06:55.960
<v Speaker 1>on how many players play for Miami. If they show

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01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.639
<v Speaker 1>the I think they'll be that's a good Iowa State team.

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01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 1>But I just can't get over last year toward the

1262
01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:04.239
<v Speaker 1>end of the game when the pop tart, a huge

1263
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:08.400
<v Speaker 1>pop tart, lowered itself into a toaster and tweeted, this

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01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.000
<v Speaker 1>is the big, greatest day of my life and everybody's like,

1265
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Speaker 1>you're killing yourself.

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01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:16.119
<v Speaker 6>Sacrifice, sacrifice for the greater good.

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01:07:16.360 --> 01:07:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Tremendous marketing.

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<v Speaker 6>I loved it, okayt wait to see what they're gonna

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01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:20.880
<v Speaker 6>do for this one. So that's a week from Saturday

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01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.559
<v Speaker 6>now our fourth swig in the six pack. Tonight, I

1271
01:07:23.599 --> 01:07:27.239
<v Speaker 6>mentioned NFL playing on Saturday. Nick, What a weekend to

1272
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:29.679
<v Speaker 6>get nothing done around the house. Honey, there's too many

1273
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.360
<v Speaker 6>games I gotta watch, so I'll know what to talk

1274
01:07:31.360 --> 01:07:34.760
<v Speaker 6>about with Dick coming up next week on the six pack. Actually,

1275
01:07:34.800 --> 01:07:36.519
<v Speaker 6>a line I've used before, to be honest with you.

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01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 6>Excellent one o'clock Saturday at NBC Kansas City two point

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01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:43.840
<v Speaker 6>two and a half point favorites at home against the Texans.

1278
01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 6>Then four point thirty on Fox on Saturday Ravens six

1279
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:51.800
<v Speaker 6>point favorites at home against the rival, hated, despised Steelers.

1280
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:55.559
<v Speaker 6>Gotta be watching that. One Sunday, I will have the

1281
01:07:55.599 --> 01:07:57.920
<v Speaker 6>Red Zone with Scott Hansen, Crank and all afternoon as

1282
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:00.880
<v Speaker 6>I usually do. I'm only interested really a couple of

1283
01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:04.840
<v Speaker 6>games this Sunday. You got the Eagles going for win

1284
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 6>number eleven in a row at Washington, they'll probably make it.

1285
01:08:08.239 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 6>And my Seahawks at home with Gino thankfully back at quarterback,

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01:08:13.679 --> 01:08:15.440
<v Speaker 6>probably losing though by more than the two and a

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01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:19.039
<v Speaker 6>half points spread to Minnesota at home Monday night Saints

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01:08:19.039 --> 01:08:22.319
<v Speaker 6>at your Packers pack definitely rolling as we saw, and

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01:08:22.359 --> 01:08:24.199
<v Speaker 6>you and I were texting about that Sunday night during

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01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:24.439
<v Speaker 6>the game.

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01:08:24.439 --> 01:08:26.840
<v Speaker 1>By the way, lunch is on me whenever you're over

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01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:27.359
<v Speaker 1>it is.

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01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:32.319
<v Speaker 6>Pack have got the three most important parts of a team,

1294
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:37.399
<v Speaker 6>really rolling defensive line, offensive line, quarterback, three parts in

1295
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.840
<v Speaker 6>absolutely horrible shape for my Seahawks. So your guys are

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01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:42.159
<v Speaker 6>looking really, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you realize there are four teams in the NFL

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01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.439
<v Speaker 1>that have not yet scored thirty or more points in

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01:08:49.479 --> 01:08:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a game. Three teams have records of like three and

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01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:56.960
<v Speaker 1>eleven or four wins or whatever, and the fourth is

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01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. I did not know that, and yet has

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01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.600
<v Speaker 1>lost just one game. Thank you Instagram for that meme.

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01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore should win that game, right, But Pittsburgh seems to

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01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:12.319
<v Speaker 1>have Lamar Jackson's number, kid, I don't know why. Maybe

1305
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:15.279
<v Speaker 1>home field will carry him there, but just just tip

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01:09:15.319 --> 01:09:17.920
<v Speaker 1>your cap to Mike Tomlin. I do think Baltimore wins that,

1307
01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:20.720
<v Speaker 1>but I think Lamarro will have his typical ugly game

1308
01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 1>against the Steelers, but they'll somehow get it done. Washington's

1309
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 1>gonna upset Philly, that's my that's my prediction to you.

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01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.000
<v Speaker 1>And I would love it if your boys could be Minnesota.

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01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.840
<v Speaker 1>That would help my boys, so would I. Oh, and

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01:09:34.159 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 1>my guys will kill New Orleans because of the weather.

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01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:39.960
<v Speaker 1>They playing that nice dome at sea level. No, they're

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01:09:39.960 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 1>going down.

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01:09:41.399 --> 01:09:42.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I don't think there's gonna be a problem with

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01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:46.439
<v Speaker 6>that at all. Our fifth swig quick swig of college

1317
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:49.279
<v Speaker 6>hoops actually number four, UK not playing again until Saturday

1318
01:09:49.359 --> 01:09:52.479
<v Speaker 6>evening five point thirty of the CBS against unranked Ohio

1319
01:09:52.600 --> 01:09:56.239
<v Speaker 6>State up in Zoo York City Madison Square Garden. U

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01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:59.039
<v Speaker 6>of L also off until Saturday afternoon. They're gonna be

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01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:02.600
<v Speaker 6>playing an ACC game Florida State on the CW network.

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01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:05.680
<v Speaker 6>That's at two o'clock Saturday. You and I haven't talked

1323
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.239
<v Speaker 6>since the Cats beat the Cards at RUP on Saturday.

1324
01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 6>Really good game. There's a little spice added to it.

1325
01:10:12.920 --> 01:10:15.159
<v Speaker 6>There a little pushing going on. Of course I've seen

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01:10:15.720 --> 01:10:17.520
<v Speaker 6>pat Riley once set up seemed more pushing in the

1327
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:21.560
<v Speaker 6>men's room. But a rocking house, and uh, you know,

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01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:24.000
<v Speaker 6>I think it would have been It would have been

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01:10:24.079 --> 01:10:27.640
<v Speaker 6>kind of nice to see Louisville at full strength like

1330
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.279
<v Speaker 6>UK pretty which was they hadn't been hit by uses.

1331
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.920
<v Speaker 6>But I think the rivalries back. It's good for not

1332
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:35.760
<v Speaker 6>only the state but college hoops in general. And I

1333
01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:38.039
<v Speaker 6>wish I could say the same for Western and Murray.

1334
01:10:38.439 --> 01:10:40.279
<v Speaker 6>That was an overtime game on Saturday, Dick, but only

1335
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 6>about thirty seven hundred people showed up at Diddle Arena

1336
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.680
<v Speaker 6>on Saturday. Of course the college was out. There were

1337
01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:49.760
<v Speaker 6>a lot of students around there, but still come on

1338
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.119
<v Speaker 6>bowling Green metro area. There used to be fourteen you know,

1339
01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:55.720
<v Speaker 6>at one point they got fourteen thousand people in Diddal

1340
01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:58.760
<v Speaker 6>Arena when it was configured that they've really figured Yeah

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01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:01.399
<v Speaker 6>for that was that was in seventy one when the

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01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.720
<v Speaker 6>Western was you know, in the top ten and went

1343
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:04.359
<v Speaker 6>on to be in the.

1344
01:11:04.279 --> 01:11:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Final and every game was not on TV. Right well, yeah,

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01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:12.239
<v Speaker 1>the Kentucky O House date, I will be up there

1346
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:14.520
<v Speaker 1>in the garden. I don't know what to make of

1347
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State because Auburn just you know, sliced and diced him.

1348
01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:22.319
<v Speaker 1>But I think if Kentucky plays as well as it

1349
01:11:22.319 --> 01:11:25.560
<v Speaker 1>did against louisvilley're a shot. If Louisville could manage the

1350
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:28.960
<v Speaker 1>knockdown threes the way it did, I guess Kentucky mean

1351
01:11:29.039 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>that came from out of nowhere. That's why it was

1352
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:35.359
<v Speaker 1>a great equalizers, a three pointer. But it's always amazing

1353
01:11:35.399 --> 01:11:37.960
<v Speaker 1>to me. At Florida State, Leonard Hamilton, a long time

1354
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:42.239
<v Speaker 1>head coach, down their former Kentucky assistant. The guy recruited

1355
01:11:42.279 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Fly Williams to Austin p He just keeps cranking out winning,

1356
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:49.680
<v Speaker 1>winning teams and never looks like he gets any older.

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01:11:51.279 --> 01:11:53.399
<v Speaker 6>Sixth and final swig and speaking of UK, U of

1358
01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.439
<v Speaker 6>l rivalries, and he would have, could have, should have

1359
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:59.600
<v Speaker 6>apartment had UK beaten Pittsburgh last Saturday, we'd have the

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01:11:59.640 --> 01:12:03.439
<v Speaker 6>Cats Cards in game one tomorrow night of the volleyball

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01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:07.720
<v Speaker 6>Final four over here Downtown Young Center instead, though it's

1362
01:12:07.800 --> 01:12:11.359
<v Speaker 6>overall number one seed pitt against hometown Cards six point

1363
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:14.600
<v Speaker 6>thirty tomorrow night on ESPN. Then you got Penn State

1364
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:18.439
<v Speaker 6>ticking on last year's runners up Nebraska thirty minutes after

1365
01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.720
<v Speaker 6>Pitt and UK. Louisville played pitt twice this season, home

1366
01:12:21.760 --> 01:12:24.439
<v Speaker 6>and away, lost both. In fact, they've lost four in

1367
01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.520
<v Speaker 6>a row to the Panthers going back to last a

1368
01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.880
<v Speaker 6>year ago November twenty twenty three. Does pitt make it

1369
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:32.560
<v Speaker 6>five straight over the Cards?

1370
01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:33.720
<v Speaker 1>I say, nay, nay.

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01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.760
<v Speaker 6>I say the Cards advanced to the finals on Sunday.

1372
01:12:37.119 --> 01:12:40.439
<v Speaker 1>Louisville's awfully good. But maybe it's because I watched Pittsburgh

1373
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:43.520
<v Speaker 1>be Kentucky, I do think. And plus Pittsburgh, this is

1374
01:12:43.520 --> 01:12:46.600
<v Speaker 1>a third straight year in the Final four, cut off

1375
01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:49.239
<v Speaker 1>from a championship each of the last two years. I

1376
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:51.520
<v Speaker 1>just think this team is so driven. I think the

1377
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Panthers win it. But it's cool that the season is

1378
01:12:54.159 --> 01:12:59.000
<v Speaker 1>ending where it began for big time college volleyball back

1379
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:01.039
<v Speaker 1>in August, late Off says, you know, I was at

1380
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:04.279
<v Speaker 1>that abcavent Loruisville and the Young Center is a great

1381
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:06.760
<v Speaker 1>place to have the final four. Welcome back with some

1382
01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:08.680
<v Speaker 1>hot reeds for Gary in just a minute here on

1383
01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the Big bloom Sider six thirty WLAP welcome back. We're chatting.

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01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Went to our West m Bureau chief Gary Moore, as

1385
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.920
<v Speaker 1>we do every Wednesday. He has tossed up two guys

1386
01:13:18.920 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in the six packs of now time for a couple

1387
01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:24.039
<v Speaker 1>of hot reeds. First of all, you kind of made

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01:13:24.039 --> 01:13:26.760
<v Speaker 1>a little wise crack about student athletes earlier, which is

1389
01:13:26.800 --> 01:13:29.199
<v Speaker 1>why I'm bringing up. And I don't blame you for that,

1390
01:13:29.319 --> 01:13:33.399
<v Speaker 1>because too often there are sham's out there. But Travis Hunter,

1391
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:37.760
<v Speaker 1>your Heisman Trophy winner, is also quite the student athlete.

1392
01:13:37.800 --> 01:13:41.159
<v Speaker 1>Gary Fall of twenty twenty three has a four point

1393
01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:44.880
<v Speaker 1>zero follows that up in the spring of twenty twenty

1394
01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.520
<v Speaker 1>four with a three point nine to oh eight academic

1395
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.560
<v Speaker 1>First Team All American And no, he's not majoring in

1396
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:57.039
<v Speaker 1>recreation or whatever. Anthropology. How about that? That was in

1397
01:13:57.039 --> 01:14:01.199
<v Speaker 1>the press release from the school. But in my opinion,

1398
01:14:01.239 --> 01:14:05.119
<v Speaker 1>not nearly enough is made of that in situations like

1399
01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:07.800
<v Speaker 1>this when you think about the class work, I mean,

1400
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:09.720
<v Speaker 1>people made a big deal out of it, as they

1401
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:12.640
<v Speaker 1>should have with Josh Dobbs when he was at Tennessee

1402
01:14:12.680 --> 01:14:16.039
<v Speaker 1>because he was studying literally to be a rocket scientist,

1403
01:14:16.920 --> 01:14:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, and now he's in the NFL. But he

1404
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:22.159
<v Speaker 1>can go on after that to build rockets when he's done.

1405
01:14:22.479 --> 01:14:24.920
<v Speaker 1>But not enough, in my opinion, is made of that,

1406
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 1>especially by people in our line of work who enjoy

1407
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 1>making cracks about the guys who are the frauds, but

1408
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:34.680
<v Speaker 1>they need to make a just as big a deal

1409
01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:36.399
<v Speaker 1>out of the guys or anything.

1410
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:40.479
<v Speaker 6>But I completely agree with you one hundred percent. Not

1411
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.960
<v Speaker 6>enough goes. And you know there's probably some more four

1412
01:14:42.960 --> 01:14:45.960
<v Speaker 6>point zero guys out there eight three point nine s.

1413
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:48.039
<v Speaker 6>People are talking about, well, these guys are ever going

1414
01:14:48.119 --> 01:14:49.560
<v Speaker 6>to get a degree? They keep going to all these

1415
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:51.319
<v Speaker 6>different schools and all this other stuff. Well why don't

1416
01:14:51.319 --> 01:14:53.239
<v Speaker 6>you just concentering on how well they're doing when they

1417
01:14:53.279 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 6>are at these schools? First of all, yeah, because it's

1418
01:14:56.399 --> 01:14:58.840
<v Speaker 6>hard to do. I mean, the football is a full

1419
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 6>time job. Every sport, Yes, every sports a full time

1420
01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:04.880
<v Speaker 6>really is, and you got to be a full time

1421
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:06.760
<v Speaker 6>student at the same time. You just can't do three

1422
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:08.680
<v Speaker 6>hours here or there. Maybe there's something to do that,

1423
01:15:08.720 --> 01:15:10.960
<v Speaker 6>but I think most schools have got a requirement. You've

1424
01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:13.159
<v Speaker 6>got to take x amount of classes to be able

1425
01:15:13.159 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 6>to play and pass those classes. At the same time.

1426
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:19.680
<v Speaker 1>When people pass judgment like this, they have a tendency

1427
01:15:19.720 --> 01:15:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to think just about the guys and gals who are

1428
01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:27.079
<v Speaker 1>going pro because they, of course command more attention. But

1429
01:15:27.359 --> 01:15:31.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety seven percent of college athletes do not go on

1430
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:34.359
<v Speaker 1>to play professionally, right exactly, And those are the ones

1431
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:36.920
<v Speaker 1>you finish their degree and then you know, do a

1432
01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:38.920
<v Speaker 1>good job at it. So yeah, I think we're in

1433
01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:42.960
<v Speaker 1>agreement on that second hot read. Speaking of athletes who

1434
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.039
<v Speaker 1>have bounced around a little bit, Will Levis from Penn

1435
01:15:46.079 --> 01:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>State to Kentucky made the most of it there, but

1436
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.159
<v Speaker 1>it's not made the most of his time as the

1437
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:54.319
<v Speaker 1>starter for the Tennessee Titans and evidently is being benched

1438
01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:57.560
<v Speaker 1>this week. It's not been confirmed yet by the head coach,

1439
01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.920
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like Mason Rudolph because Levis, who has

1440
01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:07.760
<v Speaker 1>thrown for twelve touchdowns. Also has thrown twelve interceptions, no

1441
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:12.119
<v Speaker 1>sixty four percent of his passes, which back in the

1442
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 1>day would have been brilliant. Now that's the you know,

1443
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:20.279
<v Speaker 1>on the low end. But yeah, he's thrown four almost

1444
01:16:20.279 --> 01:16:22.399
<v Speaker 1>two thousand yards. But he keeps giving a ball back

1445
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:25.039
<v Speaker 1>to the other team, not to mention fumbles. I don't

1446
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.079
<v Speaker 1>know if he'll ever come back from this, Dick.

1447
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:32.920
<v Speaker 6>He had four turnovers alone on Sunday, Yeah, three lost, Yeah,

1448
01:16:33.000 --> 01:16:36.239
<v Speaker 6>he lost a fumble, yeah, and threw for three interceptions.

1449
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 6>He's got four he leads the league and pick sixes.

1450
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.359
<v Speaker 6>He's got four interceptions return for touchdowns this year. You know,

1451
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:46.119
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if there's something about the game. He

1452
01:16:46.119 --> 01:16:47.680
<v Speaker 6>probably does need to take some time away from it.

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<v Speaker 6>But I got two words, Sam Darnold. Some of these

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<v Speaker 6>guys coming in takes two or three, four years whatever.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe he needs to go to another team, Maybe he

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<v Speaker 6>needs to work with another quarterback whisperer or somewhere. But

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if he's going to stay there for

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<v Speaker 6>very much longer. And maybe you'll go in the reclaim

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<v Speaker 6>pile on a next year or maybe then maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 6>be traded this year. Who knows somebody has got a

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<v Speaker 6>rocket for an arm, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has the same problem he had at Kentucky

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<v Speaker 1>in two phases number one, a poor offensive line yep

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<v Speaker 1>at Tennessee. But he just tries to do too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're exactly right. I think if he does

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<v Speaker 1>go to the same Darnold route, go to a team

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<v Speaker 1>that's better suited for his skills, with someone who can

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<v Speaker 1>teach him. Jameis Winston's cut down for crying aloud on

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<v Speaker 1>his turnovers. If he can cut down, I think anybody

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<v Speaker 1>can so true. Good boy Gary Moore is our west

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<v Speaker 1>End bureau chief. Finding him on Twitter or ex at

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<v Speaker 1>at nine to five to five, Gary, where you're at

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<v Speaker 1>Big bloom Insider one, see you next week. Have fun

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<v Speaker 1>in the Apple. That's it. Good night from the garage

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<v Speaker 1>and Lexington White Master.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>You got first.
