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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, we're here today with another exciting live episode.

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I'm a the Spider Hack Noir. I don't I couldn't

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think of a good one. I'm sorry, guys, I could

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not think of a good name, and also, like them,

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I can't see very well. Uh so, yeah, I have

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a I have a goal right now in the chat.

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Please pay for the goal and if we make enough money,

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I will take the mask off.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, today we're talking about Spider Noir.

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Speaker 1: And joining us for the first time is Doctor Till

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from the Ministry of Dude.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Doctor, I can't hear you.

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Speaker 2: Hey don't.

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Speaker 1: You had a whole funny bit and the microphone screwed you.

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Speaker 2: Then, well, I muted because I was cough.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if you can hear

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me or not, So I'm gonna like off myself to

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higher plane quietly and.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very funny. He did an old timey voice.

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I'm trying to do it. I'm trying to do Nicholas

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Cage voice, but I'm not very good.

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Speaker 5: Hey, bit, you're the best part of the whole thing.

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He goes, God, fuck, why sad he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Stupid face only Nicholas Cage. Do oh god, I don't.

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I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if Francis for Coppola makes a billion

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more bad movies.

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Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is a gift to the world.

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Speaker 1: And that's right, Nicholas Coppola. Don't dead name him doctor

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doctor Till.

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Speaker 2: Can you just in it?

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Speaker 1: Properly introduce yourself? Properly introduce yourself right now.

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Speaker 2: Hello, I am doctor Till.

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Speaker 4: I am the proprietor of the ministry or dude. We

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reg go to low Cows and it eats of all

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sorts and ilk and also one third of the podcast

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Burnt Popcorn, where we mainly.

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Speaker 2: Argue and about you know, movies and stuff.

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Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Till has been a longtime fan who I have

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ignored for years then finally started watching his show like

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a year ago, and I'm like, I, net, we have

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that guy on it.

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Speaker 4: Don't worry, Tony. I was totally on your side ignoring me.

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I wish I could ignore me as well.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh Spider Noir, I this is really fucking annoyed.

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Speaker 2: This mass good damn did we hit the goal yet?

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Can you see the goal?

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Speaker 4: I see no golige of any kind yet. Okay, see

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a couple of a couple of my folks in the

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jackey guys.

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Speaker 2: How's it going?

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Speaker 3: By the way, the name of the game is Super Chats.

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Speaker 1: Please leave us sooner for a chat if you want

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us to whisper sweet, nothing's into your ear or.

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Speaker 2: Say things within reason.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Please don't talk about the outcome of any trial

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that happened recently. We will not address it, no matter

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how much you pay. Yeah, that's the one I was

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referring to.

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Speaker 2: Are causing riots out there?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you if you click the goal, and

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if we make the goal, which I think is like

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thirty dollars or something, I will take the mask off.

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Although I'll probably take it off at some point because

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I could naze you. Like my goggles.

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Speaker 2: You look cool. I like that picture you posted. I

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think it was a Twitter and you too.

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Speaker 4: I was like, all right, all right, he's already going

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way harder than I have the ability to do.

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Speaker 6: I've got like a vest and a stupid hat. It

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occurred to me that I have most of the suit.

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I just needed a black mask and the goggles. Look,

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it's got two settings or three cents is normal flashing?

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Speaker 2: And then blinking.

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Speaker 4: You need to just cover one eye and then like

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go up to a girl and be like, hey, hey,

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I wink.

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Speaker 1: At her, I should wear I should wear this out tonight.

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Oh my god, I cannot see. This is so bury.

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Speaker 3: There's no fucking away. I'm gonna be able to read

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the blots.

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Speaker 2: How does he do it? How does Nick Cage do it?

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He was doing all the How does Nicholas Cage two? Okay,

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I got I gotta ask you this at the top

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before we get into the synopsis and stuff.

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Speaker 4: What is your favorite Nick Cage movie? Because I have

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I have like a one that I love this movie.

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Both my co hosts and Burn Popcorn hate it to

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high hell. So what was your favorite uh Nicolas Cage movie?

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Speaker 2: Ship? Is it face Off? It might be face off?

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Speaker 1: That's a good one, as good ones. What's your four

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job move?

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Speaker 2: Got shitty?

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Speaker 4: I just love I love all his like recent like

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after like the twenty tens, when he just started doing

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like every movie that came. Yeah you've seen Mandy, Yes,

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Speaker 3: That was like my favorite movie of like twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I think, dude, that that has to be my favorite

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Nick Cage movie. Is completely unhinged. Yeah, Mandy is incredible

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to be hit the goal yet Jesus Christ, not yet.

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And anyway, I noticed the Boys stole the ending from Mandy.

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I was like, lame, uh, I didn't watch the Boys.

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Speaker 1: We've been over this many times because Amazon hambled the

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tick and I will never forgive them. But before we

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get all that, we got to do some plugs here. Hey, everyone,

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please consider becoming a Patreon supporter. A patron, we got

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a lot of really great stuff there, multiple tears. Even

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if you saw up for free, you get the free

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It won't get buried like it does on YouTube. You

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can even gift to membership doctor till you said you

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gave your entire family hack the movies memberships for Christmas

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last year.

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Speaker 2: Right yep.

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Speaker 4: They're all children though, so they're not allowed in near electronics,

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so they'll just have to wait until they.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen years from now. But we got some great stuff there.

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We have a commentary tracks. We did a commentary track

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for every live action Mortal Kombat, I mean the one

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for the newest one, which, by the way, the story

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writer for Mortal Kombat twenty twenty one, was.

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Speaker 2: The showrunner for Spider Noir. Oh really, I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Well. He got credited his story of Mortal Kombat twenty

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twenty one, but I think it's because he worked on

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Mortal Kombat Legacy and twenty twenty one the beginning of

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that movie. It's just straight up that one sub zero

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: How involved he was with that movie, but I did

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like Mortal Kombat Legacy. But yeah, he's the show runner

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for a Spider Noir. We have a commentary track for

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Masters of the Universe nineteen eighty seven with Kevin from

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peg Warmers.

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Speaker 4: Nips are Unbalanced. That's really strange. One goes like this,

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and one goes like this.

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Speaker 1: I know what a fucking beta male Dolph Lungern is.

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We also have two bonus reviews we did recently, must

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Russell Bowlkeay's Tail of the Bummy with Cecil from Good

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Bad Flicks and Dolly with Test Givnih Dolly is great,

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doctor till he totally.

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Speaker 2: That looks like everything I would not want.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to see a movie where Sean William

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Scott's jaw is hanging off the whole time.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that actually does sound better. That sounds better than

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whatever I'm looking at here.

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Speaker 1: Also, the most people the most people ever hit with

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a shovel in a movie. I don't know if that's

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actually a metric, but I did a compilation of how

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many people got hit with a shovel and it goes

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on for a long time. So yeah, that's all on Patreon. Now,

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please go to the retro lay store. If we weren't

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in character, I'm pretty sure Doctor Till will be wearing

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all of my merch right now. Uh, and booked me

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on Cameo, please, Doctor Till. You've booked me on Cameo

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in the past, and I think it made it into

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the intro of all your episodes, right, did Doctor Till die? Hello?

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Speaker 4: S We had like a really bad storm a few

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weeks ago, and ever since then, my internet just randomly

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will shut off and turn back on.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't give me a heads up before

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we scheduled this.

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Speaker 4: It had stopped. It hasn't done this in like four

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days or something like that. I was like, I thought

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I thought we were done with it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because I put all that out in the

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audio version, I I caved and I took the mask off,

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but I still have the goggle saw.

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Speaker 3: I got rid of the gold.

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Speaker 1: There was no way I could do and it was

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it was really funny in my head.

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Speaker 2: But I got tired of not being able to see anything.

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So anyway, yeah, I feel you. Let's rewind here.

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Speaker 1: You can book me on cameo doctor till I think

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you've booked me on cameo in the past.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this would be the funniest part for me, just like.

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Speaker 3: Last time when I set you up.

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Speaker 2: As Eric Fitz, who's been gone for a little while now.

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Speaker 4: He booked you and got you to say that the ministry, dude,

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is funnier than Revenge of the Cist, which is an

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empirical fact, because Tony.

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Speaker 1: Said, yeah, yeah, of course, of course for Mogg and

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your friends. My favorite was I was watching your show

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and I forgot that. I that and you gout you're

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in the chat, You're in the thing. You're like, yeah,

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you said better than Revenge of the Sas like I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, motherfucker, it's funny.

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Speaker 4: Like I was working on the new intro last year

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and I was like when are we gonna put in here?

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Speaker 2: And I just came across that video and I was like,

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when did Dony Fromack the Movies make a cameo?

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Speaker 4: And I had texting people and Eric was like, oh,

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that was me. I was like, oh, I completely forgot about.

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Speaker 1: That anyway, finishing up the plugs here, guys, if you

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want to see me in person, I'll be at a

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few places this summer. I will be back at VHS

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Fest ten. They got special guests there, Ronda Sheer, Todd Chets, Brian,

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paulin Rich, George. It's gonna be a great time. I'll

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be there all weekend with Crystal. That's July tenth to

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July twelfth at the Mahoning Driving I can't wait. It's

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gonna be a fun time. Oh, they're playing Silent Night,

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Deadly Night, which I reviewed. I reviewed all the Silent Night,

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Deadly Nights. You can also see me at Street Fighter

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the movie the screening at the Rochester Comedy Festival. By

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the way, Maya is Ken. Is Ken the white one

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Speaker 4: I think Ken's the one. The I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I was never a street Fighter guy. I was more

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more combat because I got Sam those combos.

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Speaker 1: So was I no reo? Okay, I got my reu

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gee came in today. Me and Joey c will be

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in costume as kenan Ryu. It's gonna be a fun time.

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We're gonna be playing the movie. We're gonna have some

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audience participation. We're gonna make fun of it. And that's

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July nineteenth at the Photo City Music Hall. It's called

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part of the Rochester Comedy Festival in Rochester, New York.

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And I will be at the Sci Fi Horror Fest

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in Vernon Downs on.

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Speaker 3: August fourteenth and August fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: Again, Crystal will be at that one too, So yeah,

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look for me at all those places.

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Speaker 2: Doctor show. Are you ready to finally talk about this show?

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Hell yeah, let's do it all right.

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Speaker 1: Spider Noir not spider Man Noir, which is what it

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was originally called, but there's a reason for that, based

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off the comic Spider Man Noir from the early twenty tens.

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Speaker 3: Did you read this book at all?

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Speaker 1: No?

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I was never I like Spider Man.

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Speaker 1: I have Spider Man comics, but I was never like

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I need to get a bunch of Spider Man comics.

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Speaker 2: Like I have a few.

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Speaker 1: He's one of my I mean, obviously one of my

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favorite superheroes. Grew up watching the cartoon and everything. But

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when it comes to like comic books, I'm like, oh,

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I'll get like a big marble book, and if he's

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a character in that, fine. I rarely go out of

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my way to get like Spider Man centric stories. But

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it's a cool idea. It's a multiverse. So that's kind

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of the moral of this episode, Like this is what

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the multiverse.

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Speaker 2: Is meant for, Doctor Till.

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Speaker 1: Stories like this not cameos from elderly actors who played

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superheroes thirty years ago. That's not what the multiverses meant for,

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which is what Doomsdays could be.

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Speaker 2: All yeah, but that's.

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the circles again. Sorry, I thought my Internet was flicking

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Speaker 2: I was about to smash every monitor in his room.

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Speaker 1: Because there's there is a there's a big pushback against multiverses,

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mostly from anti will comic rifters like Eric July, who

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blocked me when I pointed out that the AI that

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he used for his thumbnail wasn't right because it added

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like what two ws to the Hollywood side. That's why

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he blocked me, not because I caused it domino effect

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that ruined his business. I made one phone call to

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a podcast that snowballed into the Ripper verse just being

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a joke. I didn't get blocked for any of that,

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but I got blocked for pointing out that his AI

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thumbnail could have been cleaned. I even cleaned it up

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for him in photoshop. Anyway, people like him are shitting

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on multiverses because they're just making fun of like how

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Hollywood is using it and how TV shows are using it. Like, no,

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there was like it was supposed to be more than

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cameos and it's for stuff like this or else worlds

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is what we used to call it back in the day. Yeah,

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like Gotham by gas Light. That's a very famous one.

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Speaker 4: I would say I like this more than I like

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Gotham by Gasline, even though like Batman's always number one,

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you know, Yeah, this is the right tone, Like I

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don't know everything, for this for some reason just fits perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this show specifically. Yeah, well here's the thing.

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and it looked like unfinished and I turned it off.

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that's uh.

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Speaker 1: Apparently it was very popular. There was a whole noir

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line of comics. I think there was like X Men Noir,

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Punisher Noir, a really cool idea. And then the character

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ended up in the Into the Spider Verse movie voice

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Bye Nicholas Cage, which made me very happy till because

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I love Nicholas Cage and I feel like years ago,

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when he was doing ghost Rider, I would just do

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this thing where I would say, like every superhero movie

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just needed Nicholas Cage, and I think I couldn't find it.

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It's buried somewhere on my Facebook. There were years ago

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I photo shot Nicholas Cage onto Andrew Garfield and I'm like,

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this is the Spider Man, this is the Spider So

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when like, what was it twenty eighteen when this came out,

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I was just like, I was just like, oh wait,

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Nicholas Cage is Spider Man. We finally made it. We

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finally made it. I think that same year. Around that year,

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he voiced Superman in the teen Titans movie. Also, oh, like,

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finally we got him the Superman and Spider Man.

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Speaker 3: All is right with the world.

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Speaker 2: Loved him in into the Spider Verse.

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Speaker 3: That was a good movie. Do you enjoyed that movie?

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Speaker 4: I wasn't my favorite, but I'm just I'm not a

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huge fan of animation in general. Okay, but it was

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like it was one of those whords like this, if

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this was live action, I would probably really love it,

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and I can see why people loved it.

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Speaker 2: The second one.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not even bothered with that. I

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saw all the all the shit before.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not even bothered with that.

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Speaker 4: That was just gonna make me hate the other one

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in retrospect, I'll keep what fondness for it.

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Speaker 2: I have. You know what's weird?

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Speaker 1: What I animation worked in the movie's favor for like

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all the different like characteris teaming up and everything.

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Speaker 2: I liked that he could Did you freeze again? God

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damn it? Hello my hair.

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Speaker 1: You're good, I'm here close again? Okay, it just keeps

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scaring me. Dude, you need an animation for that movie.

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So like, uh, everyone could have their like black and

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whiteness and the anime stuff all clashing together. It would

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look weird in live action if they tried it, which

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they kind of tried to do in the second movie.

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The second one is fine, but it's not rewatchable. The

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first one I've watched a bunch of times. The second one,

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I'm like, yeah, I'll wait till the third one comes

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out before I rewatch it. Also, no Nicholas Cage in

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the second one. It does show up to the very,

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very very end of it.

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Speaker 2: I would say.

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Speaker 4: About the first one though, like as much as like

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I'm not like a Miles Morales fan, Yeah, there is

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a right way and a wrong way to do that

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passing of the torch thing.

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Speaker 2: And I think as far as like the first one's concerned,

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they did it pretty well.

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Speaker 1: I I know Miles Rales was kind of created because

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some like legal ownership over a spider Man.

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Speaker 2: They thought they were Yeah, I will say.

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Speaker 1: This, most versions of Miles Morales that I've seen it

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has worked for me. It's one of those passing the

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torch where like a younger superhero with the same name. Uh,

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even the whole race swapping or whatever it like works

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for Miles Morales, like, it doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 3: The thing is they struck go with Miles Morales and

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then they went.

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Speaker 1: Tiny uh Muslim Miss Marvel and I'm like, no, it's

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not gonna work every single time, guys, it's not gonna

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work every single time.

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Speaker 2: And they were like, what do you want a little

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girl Iron Man.

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Speaker 1: It's like no, actually, I want literally anything else other

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than that. So that was like the downside of Miles

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where I was working so well. They tried it with

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everything else and I'm like, no, it kind of only

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worked this one time. It might work again. I'm just

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letting you know. It didn't work now little girl, little

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Girl White Tiger. That's like the only other one that worked.

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She's now like a big Spider Man character. And now

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some of the new Daredubel and stuff. Those are the times.

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Speaker 4: They always learned the wrong lessons from this shit. Like

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anytime something like like breaks big and they're like, okay,

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so let's exactly copy this Verba, It's like, no. The

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whole reason why it was big is because it was

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had a little bit of something familiar, had a lot

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of something new.

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Speaker 2: That's what people generally want. She needs a little familiarity

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as well.

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Speaker 1: The Miles Rowles thing should have been like, Hey, this

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is something we can do if we want to at

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some point. Instead they went, this is something we should

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do for every character, and it's like, no, don't do

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that anyway.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Lord and Miller, who, by the way,

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made one of the best movies I've seen this year

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of Project Hill Mary. They were the ones who of

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course produced the end of the Spider Verse movies. They decided,

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this guy needs a live action TV show. And when

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I heard We're getting a live action Nicholas Cage Spider

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Man show, I went, this is the happiest day of

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my life. This is the greatest not since the old

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YouTube series Italian Spider Man. How about to see a

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Spider Man thing in my life? And Nicholas Coppola is Italian,

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so in a way this is my Italian Spider Man.

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Till yeah, this is Were you excited when you heard

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about this coming out? Were you pump for it or

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were you hesitant?

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Speaker 4: Were you one of those watch those things where you go,

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Nicholas Cage doing a live action Spider no war, All right,

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I'm in But also, why why are we doing this?

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Speaker 1: I think they tested the waters with the animated film

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and enough people went that was kind of funny. I

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like Nicholas Cage that and they went, you know what,

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give him his own show. By the way, I think

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it's safe to say of all the Sony Spider Man

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spin offs they've tried in the last ten years since Venom,

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this is the only good one, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the best Venom movie was Upgrade, just

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like the best ghost Rider movie was Drive Angry.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 1: I did enjoy Venom two a little bit. That one

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was kind of funny.

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Speaker 2: It was funny when it wasn't trying to be.

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Speaker 1: But I got a whole episode on that where I

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wore a costume for each crossover we were talking about.

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But yeah, coming off of like Morbius and Craving the

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Hunter and all that other shit, to just see like, hey,

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what if Spider Man was in the thirties or twenties,

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uh doing noir shit, I'm like, that sounds great, and hey,

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look there is a Spider Man. You notice how there's

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a Spider Man on screen. You know what, a lot

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of those other spin offs were missing till Spider Man, as.

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Speaker 2: I say, catering.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So there were some legal reasons why he's not

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called Spider Man. Apparently Sony. They only want like one

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like live action Spider Man, I guess, And because he

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smokes cigarettes and he's more violent. They're like, we don't

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want to attach the Spider Man name to this, which

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is why I'm the universe of the show.

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Speaker 3: He's called the Spider this.

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Speaker 1: Though, you know what I mean, Like it doesn't actually

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it actually works out, and they called it Spider Noir

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instead of Spider Man Noir like the comic and uh,

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it's funny. In into the Spider Verse, he said it

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his name was Peter Parker, and it is Peter Parker

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in the comics, but he goes by Ben Riley, which

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is famously the Scarlet Spider's name. But as you watched

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the show, there's a line later on that shows like

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he definitely changed his name at one point because they

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didn't want Peter.

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Speaker 3: They also didn't want the name.

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Speaker 1: Peter Parker associated with the guy who drinks too much

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and smokes cigarettes and kills people, so they're.

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Speaker 3: Like called Ben Riley.

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Speaker 1: But there is a line later on that implies that

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his real name is Peter Parker, he just changed it

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after the war. So I thought that was pretty cool.

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But yeah, let's let's get into it. Let me let

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me recap the first episode here, doctor till if you will.

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That was a rhyme. I deserve one hundred dollars. What

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his Aeronymhill call it? A red boy? I deserve a

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red boy?

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Speaker 2: How good that rhyme was?

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Speaker 4: Never follow the footsteps of aeronem hole, You'll end up

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with another man's stuff on you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's caught as Italian sauce.

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Speaker 1: In the nineteen twenties, private investigator Ben Riley once operated

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as the vigilante The Spider, but retired after his fiance

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Ruby Williams died In nineteen thirty three. Ben and another

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PI Donagil or Hot this is off from the Wikipedia,

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by the way, are hired by a man named Winston

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to find criminal Jimmy Addison. Is that Jimmy Addison? My

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cockles fogged off?

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Speaker 3: There he is. I'm now for the audio listeners.

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Speaker 1: I now put the cockles on my head because I

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couldn't see anymore.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Donegal kills Addison after the latter reveals his pyrokinesis and

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threatens him. Ben is later hired to investigate a nightclub

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singer Cat Hardy. You get it till because Felicia Hardy

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was the black Cat. But this is a kind of

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different characters, so they switched the name up. Played by

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Lee Jung Lynn I think was her name? Hold and

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I have it here, Lee John Lee, who was in

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the She was in the Exorcist TV show season two.

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You ever watched the Exorcist TV show? No, Oh my god?

472
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,279
The first season is like a nice self can They

473
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,279
did do a second season, but the first season self

474
00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:23,920
contained enough.

475
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: It is a great legacy sequel to the Exorcist.

476
00:24:27,519 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: To the point I got mad that they did Exorcist

477
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,640
Believer because it no longer had the show in continuity.

478
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,359
Highly suggested, but that's where I recognized this girl from Okay,

479
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,200
Kat Hardy the younger wife of a man named Carmody

480
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:44,039
for infidelity that turns out not to be true. At

481
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:48,279
the Redcliffe, Ben secretly stops Kat's supposed lover from assaulting her.

482
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,440
Him and Donegal then learned that Winston is the right

483
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:57,200
hand man for the crime boss silver Main Ben and

484
00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:01,920
played by god what's his name? Hold on? Brandon Gleason.

485
00:25:02,039 --> 00:25:04,160
I think the last movie I saw with the last

486
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,519
superhero movie I saw with him till I believe was

487
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,559
Joker too.

488
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, I forgot he was in that.

489
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was weird because Joker it feels good

490
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,119
after a court trial and he makes fun of the guards.

491
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,440
Then when he goes back to jail, this guy looks

492
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,359
very mad. But then I got up to pee and

493
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,119
I missed a scene. Joker didn't want to be Joker anymore.

494
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,839
I don't know if I missed an important thing. Anyway,

495
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,640
that's the last time I saw him in a Superit.

496
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 2: Did scared straight. Uh. Oh, okay.

497
00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: He's silver Main, which if you grew up with the cartoon,

498
00:25:35,799 --> 00:25:37,799
he was a mob boss in the cartoon, but also

499
00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,559
in the comics he becomes a robot man, which they

500
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,319
used this concept for the video game. They gave it

501
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,759
the tombstone, like his head on a robot suit.

502
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,519
Speaker 2: Uh where was I at here?

503
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: Ben and the secretary Janet also discovered that Kat's companion

504
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,759
is Mayor Alfred Morris, so they dropped the case. After

505
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,720
learning the police recover in Addison's body, Ben goes to

506
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:06,799
the Alcove Nightclub to blackmail Cat and warned Doneghill about Silvermins.

507
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:10,440
Silvermin tortures and kills Donegal, while Cat sends her bodyguard

508
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,680
Flint Marco the Sandman, who was able to turn his

509
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:17,720
body into sand after ben Ben abandons the blackmail. After

510
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,640
Cat breaks up the flight. The next day, Cat hires

511
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,279
him to investigate Marco's disappearance. I just feel about the

512
00:26:24,279 --> 00:26:27,480
first episode. I didn't get you invested in this universe

513
00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:28,680
till it.

514
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,519
Speaker 4: Definitely got you on the This is a new war

515
00:26:31,799 --> 00:26:35,119
and we're not messing around like this is a detective story.

516
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480
This is, you know, in some ways akin to like

517
00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,640
a Chinatown or you know, Maltese fight.

518
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: It really is trying.

519
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,279
Speaker 4: To go in hard and it It's very light on

520
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,559
the Spider in the first episode, but there's just enough

521
00:26:49,559 --> 00:26:53,599
to like, like, Okay, I'm I'm gonna keep watching because

522
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:55,119
I want to. I want to see this guy get

523
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,400
back into action. Yeah, and I like the first episode.

524
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:03,480
I thought it was you know, Spider stopped a assault. Whoa,

525
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:06,119
but you know whatever, that was very good of him.

526
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,759
We agreed.

527
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoyed the world, which, by the way,

528
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,200
I watched this in black and white.

529
00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: You watch it in color, I believe, or I went

530
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:16,960
back and forth.

531
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I will say, I watched the first episode

532
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440
today in color, and a lot of people are saying

533
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,920
this online. It's unfair, Like the best color we've seen

534
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,240
in the Superhero thing and Forever is a show that's

535
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,000
meant to be watched in black and white.

536
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: The colors are beautiful.

537
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck?

538
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 3: Why doesn't every show look like this?

539
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: I think, like Hollywood and whatnot, they're finally learning that

540
00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,559
too many of our shows were too dark for modern

541
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:43,680
TVs and it's been driving people crazy for ten years.

542
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's.

543
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,279
Speaker 4: A time and place for that, you know, but it's

544
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:53,240
comic book stuff unless you're doing Batman, like I think

545
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,720
The Batman was proper like, you know, accurately or appropriately

546
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:58,839
dark and gritty because.

547
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: It's Batman, and it's it'sah Batman in the movie seven.

548
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 4: This like it is meant to watch either of which

549
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:11,000
is very like a crazy like thing to have to

550
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,519
go to a DP and go, look, I want our

551
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,920
show to look awesome in both color and black and white?

552
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: Can you do that?

553
00:28:21,319 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 4: That was one of the things I kept going back

554
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:24,440
and forth between the color of the black and light,

555
00:28:24,519 --> 00:28:27,240
because I mean, I went to film school with I

556
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,599
believe you went to film school as well. Yes, And

557
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:38,400
I'm always fascinated by lighting because it's it's almost everything,

558
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,119
like your sets could look like shit, but you light

559
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,839
them right, they.

560
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: Look awesome, you know.

561
00:28:44,599 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 4: And the I don't know who the DP for, if

562
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,400
they had the same guy or if they just had

563
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,599
like you know, a bunch of different guys working together.

564
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,880
But you go back and forth between the black and

565
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,000
white and the color, and you can really appreciate, like

566
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,640
how good this guy is at lighting things because you.

567
00:28:58,559 --> 00:28:59,759
Speaker 2: Look at you look at certain friends.

568
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 4: There's a scene I'm not sure which episode was in,

569
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,640
but where Silvermin approaches the mayor and they're like talking

570
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,039
and they're like these profile shots. You watch it in

571
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:11,960
black and white, the entire side of like the mayor's

572
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,480
face is completely like blocked down. All you see is

573
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:15,920
like a little bit of is like the edge of

574
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,440
his face. You're watching color. It's like a completely different experience.

575
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,480
But you're like, I see how this guy like, okay,

576
00:29:24,519 --> 00:29:26,200
I just got I got work on hots and colds,

577
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,039
you know. So it's it's really cool watching people be

578
00:29:29,079 --> 00:29:29,880
really good at their job.

579
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:35,079
Speaker 1: Okay, I looked up. So there's two there's two people credited.

580
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,400
One of them is Darren Tearning, which he doesn't. He's

581
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,559
not important enough to have a fucking Wikipedia name. However,

582
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:45,400
the other guy is Peter Deming. You want me to

583
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,920
read off some of the movies. He's been a cinematographer

584
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:54,720
for sure. Here we Go, Evil Dead two, Uh, Drop Dead,

585
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:59,960
Fred my cousin, Vinnie son in Law, Austin Powers, Uh,

586
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,880
The Powers, Gold Member, Scream two, Scream three, mahalland Drive

587
00:30:04,039 --> 00:30:07,960
from Hell Drag Me to Hell. Well, he did the

588
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,599
Love Gurer's That one's pretty bad, Scream four, so he's

589
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,960
actually actually ironically, he worked a lot with Sam Raimi,

590
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:17,559
but not on his Spider Man movies, so I guess

591
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:18,240
he's thinking.

592
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.

593
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: Like they gave Sam raimie like reins over like season

594
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,599
two to see what he would do with Oh, Spider Noir,

595
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:30,279
that'd be great.

596
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: And the last movie he dp four that I saw

597
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,440
was The Menu, which I thought was really really good.

598
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,279
Speaker 2: Oh that was really good. Yeah that was a movie

599
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:38,759
where like I.

600
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 4: Would see The Toaster four, I'm like, stupid looking movie.

601
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 3: Oh this makes hold on, this makes so much more

602
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:47,759
sense now.

603
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: He was also the cinematographer for Twin Peaks the Return,

604
00:30:51,599 --> 00:30:55,000
which did have many color scenes and black and white scenes.

605
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,920
So okay, they got the right guy for the job.

606
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,920
They picked the perfect guy for the job.

607
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:00,799
Speaker 2: Cool.

608
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Then I looked that up there, I'm like, Jesus Christ, Yeah,

609
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:08,119
this guy's loaded here. See I again. I like the world.

610
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,599
The city looks great, the sets look great. I mean,

611
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,640
there's some digital stuff that's pretty noticeable. But what I

612
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,279
really appreciated is that they were taking the noir thing

613
00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:24,160
like seriously. It was funny, but not like making fun

614
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440
of the concept like I just saw the New he

615
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,240
Man movie.

616
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:35,759
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, uh oh did it do it again? God?

617
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:40,799
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, did you do it again, Tony? He's still there?

618
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:53,799
God damn it. Did Tony freeze or did I freeze?

619
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's not me. Oh, oh my god,

620
00:31:56,839 --> 00:31:59,519
it's not me. Oh oh.

621
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: I want to say victory, but it doesn't feel like

622
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,599
a victory. Just feels like technology being really annoying.

623
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: Hello, hello, oh god, they scared the ship.

624
00:32:13,839 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: No, apparently it was me that time.

625
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: Why does the internet hate is Tony?

626
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is raining by the play. I

627
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920
don't know if that with it?

628
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: Sorry?

629
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry anyway, as I was saying, do we sound good?

630
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: The sound is good. Everyone just make sure.

631
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,599
Speaker 2: Sounds normal to me. But I can't really tell what they're.

632
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,079
Speaker 1: Oh my god, hold on, I got to replay here.

633
00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:41,759
Speaker 2: I'm just glad it's not doing what I do.

634
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,039
Speaker 4: What happens to me, Like on my show when the

635
00:32:44,039 --> 00:32:46,119
Internet suddenly goes down, like last week, it happened like

636
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,039
three or four times. Every time I'd come back, you

637
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:52,720
could only hear uh audio in the left channel.

638
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's so annoying.

639
00:32:54,319 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: So I have to just restart the stream. It was

640
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,279
such a.

641
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,559
Speaker 1: Bad anyway, as I was saying, rewind The new he

642
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,960
Man movie very funny, has really good comedy in it.

643
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:06,559
But they felt like almost insecure at some parts. So

644
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,720
they had to like make fun of the Masters of

645
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,799
the Universe like concept a little too much. They're like, no,

646
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,759
you were doing fine. You didn't have to do like

647
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:18,240
self deprecating stuff. This doesn't do that. This is like, no,

648
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:21,079
we're gonna be We're gonna have really funny scenes, but

649
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,359
we're gonna like really commit like this is a noir thing.

650
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the comedy comes from just like

651
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,359
these people are trying to like accurate portray like people

652
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,680
from that era or like that genre movie, and it's

653
00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:39,000
funny to us because there's like so much time between

654
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:44,119
like when people acting like that and now yeah uh

655
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:44,519
and yeah.

656
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: I love the way it was shot. They have those

657
00:33:46,519 --> 00:33:52,039
Dutch angles, really creative cinematography. I thought it was good.

658
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,039
I it hooked me and I was like, I was

659
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,799
gonna watch it regardless, because it's the less Cage of

660
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Spider Man. I mean, I couldn't had to. I can't

661
00:34:00,039 --> 00:34:02,720
stress enough how big of a win this is for me,

662
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,079
because it's such a ridiculous thing I thought would never happen.

663
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Now I need this Italian Spider Man to show up

664
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,400
in one of the movies. That's all I want to

665
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960
They keep ignoring him and all these multiverse shit. I'm like,

666
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:16,880
just give the Italian Spider In.

667
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 4: The beginning, like his little beginning monologue, he says, there

668
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,920
was once a guy asked me what universe this was, and.

669
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 2: I says, I want to know. Was that referencing into

670
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,920
the Spider Verse.

671
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,119
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's referencing into the Spider Verse,

672
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,400
and he's like looking back on his past. But at

673
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,519
this point in the story, into the Spider Verse hasn't

674
00:34:37,559 --> 00:34:41,000
happened yet, so he's like narrating from the future. I

675
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:44,199
think this is nineteen thirty three, And into the Spider Verse,

676
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,559
he says that he's already like fighting Nazi, so this

677
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:51,159
is like a little bit before. Then, also into the

678
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,280
Spider Verse, he said, like his uncle Benjamin was the

679
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,320
reason he became the Spider, or like his reason for

680
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,199
fighting crime. I guess that's still true Ruby, it was

681
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,199
his reason to stop fighting crime. So what the fuck?

682
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,159
Never mind, I just grew myself wrong. Anyway, a solid

683
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,039
first episode, and I even like a lot of the

684
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:13,079
supporting characters. Despider, you know, despite being nineteen thirties, you know,

685
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:15,159
he's cool with people of all races. He has an

686
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,239
Hispanic assistant.

687
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: It is New York, though, it is like so like

688
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,760
by that time, it feels at least believably reasonable. Yea,

689
00:35:25,039 --> 00:35:26,920
this was I think I told you, like this was

690
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,599
like Atlanta or Dallas or Mississippi.

691
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,079
Speaker 2: Fuck that.

692
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,079
Speaker 1: It was a little confusing because I thought maybe they

693
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,280
were doing like you see the New Fantastic forwards. You

694
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,679
see that one. Okay, well that's like we're the sixties.

695
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,599
But like if there wasn't a lot of racism. So

696
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:43,960
there's a lot of colored people all around the New

697
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:45,760
York and stuff, and I'm like, oh, I don't really

698
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,199
see that, but fine, that's another world.

699
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 3: For a minute, I thought they were doing that, but.

700
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,639
Speaker 1: They actually did show that, like segregation is an effect,

701
00:35:52,039 --> 00:35:53,679
like at some point the one guy goes to hotel

702
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,599
and it says whites only. They mentioned the military being segregated,

703
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:59,679
So yeah, I think you're writing it's New York, it's

704
00:35:59,679 --> 00:35:59,960
the York.

705
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 4: I hate when like historical dramas just.

706
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: Like, nah, that wasn't a thing. It's like, yeah, it

707
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:07,360
was a thing.

708
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: It wasn't a thing in like the nineties because we

709
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,679
got past that and then Obama happened and somehow we

710
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,519
over proect the fifties.

711
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

712
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: I thought I would have been fine if they were

713
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,639
like whatever, this is a universe where it's not a

714
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,519
big deal because it's fucking spider Man.

715
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: I don't really care that much.

716
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's more annoying if it's like an

717
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,719
actual historical drama that's like meant to be, like this

718
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400
is even though all historical things take liberties.

719
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,039
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know if this was correct. I

720
00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:37,159
don't know if this is right.

721
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 4: If they had just ignored the segregation in The Great Debaters,

722
00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:45,760
that would have been way more uh bothers, which my

723
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,800
brother was in Actually oh he was, Yeah, he was.

724
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,039
It was an extra on, like the train scene. They

725
00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,559
filmed that, the train scene like about forty minutes from

726
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:55,119
where I lived.

727
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:57,639
Speaker 3: Grow act as if I've ever watched The Great Debater?

728
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:58,280
I did not watch.

729
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,280
Speaker 2: Have you ever see The Great Beaters? I had it.

730
00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:04,519
Speaker 4: It's an okay movie for like, you know, like all right,

731
00:37:04,679 --> 00:37:07,599
this down on like down on the log, that segregated

732
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:11,000
school is getting into the white debate sphere and like

733
00:37:11,079 --> 00:37:13,159
they're they're pushing their way through. It's like it's you know,

734
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,079
it's heartwarming enough. And you get to see the dad

735
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:18,000
from home alone be a racist assholes.

736
00:37:18,039 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: That's fun. I'm in. I'm in, man in the chat,

737
00:37:21,039 --> 00:37:25,159
are doing The Great Debaters? Okay.

738
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:30,199
Speaker 1: Episode two tread lightley the site. Despite suspecting Cat is

739
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,000
hiding information, Ben accepts the case and searches Marco's apartment,

740
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,440
discovering that Marco and Addison were former World War One

741
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:43,920
soldiers who once worked as enforcers for Silvermain cat atmits

742
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,280
Silvermin owns the alcove and says she has personal reasons

743
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,519
for searching for Marco. Which, by the way, I like

744
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:53,159
the Sandman's effect in this. He's not like the Sandman

745
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,760
we know he. I mean later on the very end

746
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,840
he kind of turns into a puddle of sand, but

747
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:03,519
it's more like his just becomes very sandy. Yeah, really

748
00:38:03,559 --> 00:38:04,119
really hard.

749
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:10,519
Speaker 4: The face effects like looked better in black and white

750
00:38:10,559 --> 00:38:11,400
than they didn't color.

751
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:11,679
Speaker 2: I think.

752
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:17,079
Speaker 1: Okay, which this guy, this actor speaking of face effects

753
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,280
and like the twenties and whatnot, he was in that

754
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,639
show Boardwalk Empire.

755
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,599
Speaker 2: He was the guy with the weird like plastic face.

756
00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:25,880
He had like half his face blown off. I didn't

757
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,239
watch that.

758
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch that show, but while I was airing,

759
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,320
I had to see like pictures of that guy the

760
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,360
whole time, and I went, wow, wonder what his deal is?

761
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,679
And then I just never watched the show. I'm sure

762
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:41,440
it was good anyway, Where was Marco. Silvermain's men later

763
00:38:41,559 --> 00:38:43,920
capture Ben, but he manages to escape. That is a

764
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,480
good scene where he beats up the guys in the car.

765
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,159
Ben's journalists friend Robbie Robertson, who is a very big

766
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,599
Spider Man character. He usually works at the Daily Bugle.

767
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,880
He's in the Sam Rainey Spider Man movies. He's the

768
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,960
big black guy. He's usually in the office. Oh.

769
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:57,599
Speaker 4: J J.

770
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,519
Speaker 1: Jameson, very popular? Who he was, Yeah, very popular Spider

771
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:07,039
Man Daily Bugle character Robbie Robertson interviews Addison's widow and

772
00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,679
learns she's been spending money. Has been spending the money

773
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,360
Addison earned burning down silver Main's mansion on a luxurious

774
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,760
lifestyle that did feel like Goodfellas where they're like, we

775
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,960
just stole a bunch of money. Don't buy things that'll

776
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,280
draw attention. Cut to the guy going I got the

777
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:27,000
biggest tree they ever had, or the tune buying like

778
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:28,679
his wife Giper coachs like.

779
00:39:28,679 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Sp Some people just can't be helped,

780
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,000
like buy these ten years from now, not right now.

781
00:39:38,599 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Marco's condition worsens, forcing him to hide with his

782
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:48,800
friend Lonnie Lincoln Tombstone. This version of Tombstone is like

783
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,199
a crab starfish man. Do you remember what his deal was?

784
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,239
Because some of them are linked to animals. I think

785
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,679
he was like a crab or a starfish.

786
00:39:57,519 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: I thought he was the Rhino the whole time.

787
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: I didn't like they'd never really say exactly who they Oh,

788
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:06,960
the electricity guy says his name at the end, but

789
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:11,119
other than Flint Marco, they never really specifically stay if

790
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,960
you're not really super familiar with like all the the

791
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:16,800
Spider Man rogs Gally, I thought it was rhino.

792
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: I just knew Tombstone had like hard skin. Well they

793
00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:23,360
can't still, they can't do rhinos. So soon after he

794
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,599
blew audiences away and Craven the Hunter.

795
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:31,119
Speaker 2: Ah, that's true, you got me there. Yeah, well, like

796
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,599
what is his arm skin, Harden, it looked like rhino plating.

797
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he has I thought he was like

798
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,280
more crustacean or something. Anyway, maybe uh Lennie Linken, who

799
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,639
has superhuman strength and unbreakable skin. After Silvermain's men threatened Janet,

800
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:50,960
Ben becomes the Spider again. I love that scene. So

801
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,159
we found out when he quit being the Spider, he

802
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880
hid his suit inside his old apartment and he like,

803
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,440
uh that scene, but he has to like go to

804
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,400
his old apart, but he's pretending to be like a

805
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,079
repair man. He's doing like a dorky voice and everything.

806
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Those are the best parts where like he's doing the

807
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,519
gum shoe like the.

808
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 1: Sky shit, yeah, which is funny because he's doing like

809
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,239
like real cliche noir stuff that you would see people

810
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,920
make fun of the movies. And for a minute I

811
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800
thought that was like them making fun of Noir until

812
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,880
a later episode where they that actually has a reason

813
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,400
why he's being like so animated and stuff.

814
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, he like comes in he's looking like Clark

815
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:33,840
Kent or something.

816
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 2: Like. He's like, yeah, I gotta fix the leak in.

817
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,039
Speaker 1: Your bathroom and he just starts hammering their wall and

818
00:41:40,119 --> 00:41:41,280
get the spider suit out.

819
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 3: I thought I was fucking hilarious that he just was

820
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,119
like why did you take it?

821
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: When you moved?

822
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: He just jumps out the window, and they're like, what

823
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:48,679
the hell was that?

824
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,679
Speaker 2: I never need this again. I looked up Lone Likenking.

825
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, he has Tombstone. They never I'm not

826
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,840
super familiar with Tombstone as like a character. Yeah, like

827
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,840
and they said Lonnie Lincoln. It never occurred to me

828
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,760
that he was not the rhino. He just like he

829
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,159
looked like a rhino, you know.

830
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he could have been there. These

831
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,800
are loose adaptations of the character. Uh Ben becomes the

832
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Spider again during an alcohol shipment. The Spider defeats Silvermain's henchman.

833
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,760
This is what I realize he is. He's not really

834
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,239
like he does kill people, more like people die while

835
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,760
fighting him, and he's indifferent to it. Like he just

836
00:42:28,199 --> 00:42:30,320
he like webs the one guy's gun and like I

837
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400
think I don't think he meant to, but he like

838
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,159
yanks it and just machine guns and other henchmen. I

839
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:36,039
thought that was awesome.

840
00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:40,159
Speaker 2: I do like that they let him actually like kill people.

841
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: And smoking cigarettes constantly. Yes, that's that's the only thing

842
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,639
where like media was just like we have to minimize

843
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:50,719
how many people are smoking.

844
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 2: Like what was it?

845
00:42:52,159 --> 00:42:55,599
Speaker 1: Someone brought up that, uh that Disney Mary Poppins movie

846
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:56,800
where Tom Hanks played Disney.

847
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: Did you freeze again? Okay, you're good.

848
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: I just listened there you go.

849
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,119
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you did freeze for a second.

850
00:43:04,159 --> 00:43:07,719
But it was fine that Disney, uh Mary Poppins. We

851
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,360
were Tom Hanks played Disney like he doesn't smoke at all,

852
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:13,159
and he was famously like smoking three packs a day.

853
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,599
We've kind of come back on that too where we

854
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,119
did that a little too much? Like what was it

855
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,159
that show Constantine based off the DC comics guy. Oh yeah,

856
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,800
they finally got a guy like unlike Keanu Reeves would

857
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,159
look like Constantine and acted like Consin and then like

858
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,760
he didn't smoke it, he like has a cigarette in

859
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,119
his mouth and like toward the end of that. Oh

860
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,039
it only ever had one season. He showed up in

861
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,000
ye Go, but I'm like, oh, come on. So I

862
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:40,239
liked that they were free to have him smoke it.

863
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,159
I think even the newest the Batman what it wasn't

864
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,079
allowed to have the penguin smoke. I think he did

865
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:47,400
in the show, but I don't think he did in

866
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,320
the movie anyway. Remember he takes down the alcohol shipment

867
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:56,400
until silvermain to leave pen Riley alone. That's another thing

868
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,400
I miss. I miss secret identities in superhero stuff. He

869
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:03,159
kind of got away with it with the DC the

870
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,639
mcu uh. But I love that they don't make any

871
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
jokes about like how do you not know he's the Spider.

872
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:11,400
Everyone's just like, hey, Ben Riley, I need you to

873
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,320
call your friend the Spider, and they never really question it.

874
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,079
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a great scene with that like the

875
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:18,880
last episode.

876
00:44:19,079 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 1: Yea, they questioned it when it's important to the story,

877
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,800
but that's something they could have like winked and nodded

878
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,880
at or whatnot. I'm like, no, I appreciate that they're

879
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,119
treating it like an old comic thing. We're like, yeah,

880
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,760
people just didn't question it. Obviously, he's not the Spider

881
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,159
I've never seen him as the Spider.

882
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 2: How did he get Spider Uh?

883
00:44:38,039 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: But I love so he like he tells him to

884
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,559
leave Ben and Jan and alone. Silvermain backs off, but

885
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,480
I love that Robbie calls him and he's like, hey,

886
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,039
there's a big raid that happened. The police got all

887
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,719
these people involved. They were waiting on silver Main, but

888
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,400
he never showed. So he comes out of retirement to

889
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,440
fight Silvermain, and he if he just did nothing, silver

890
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:00,400
Main would have been arrested. I thought that was fucking

891
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,000
hilarious because it just ends with him going like, oh God,

892
00:45:03,039 --> 00:45:03,519
what did I do?

893
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:04,559
Speaker 2: What did I do?

894
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: You gotta have, especially in the first episode, you gotta

895
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,000
have the main character fuck everything up so you can.

896
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:19,079
Speaker 1: Have yeah, uh solid second episode. Yeah, I was still

897
00:45:19,159 --> 00:45:22,079
on board here. The action was fun. I love seeing

898
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,159
just Spider Man with old model t Fords. That's probably

899
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,719
not what the car is, but that's the only old

900
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,239
car I can think of. But this is our first

901
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,920
like Spider action sequence. We got, like a little one

902
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:35,199
in the opening of the first episode was just kind

903
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:36,960
of like a highlight reel. But no, I thought this

904
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:39,800
looked really it looked good in black and white. Did

905
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,280
you watch this scene in color?

906
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,039
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see this one in color.

907
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 4: I watched one in color and like three four, and

908
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,400
I think I watched the finale in color.

909
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, I know.

910
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: The action I thought was great.

911
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 1: And again it was cool seeing how pighly naked get

912
00:45:56,599 --> 00:45:58,639
because we usually never get that in a live action

913
00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,639
Spider Man thing.

914
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:05,039
Speaker 4: I like how they're not afraid of like like the contrasts,

915
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,079
like those one of the things that like made like

916
00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:10,480
sin City so like striking as like a movie. Yeah,

917
00:46:10,519 --> 00:46:12,119
it was in black and white, but it was like

918
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:14,280
a very high contrast, and then you could have like

919
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,599
these unrealistic like reflections that almost like anime ask and

920
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:20,440
they do that a lot.

921
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: With his his goggles, and I yeah, I love it. Yeah,

922
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,440
uh yeah, I love I love his costume everything, although

923
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:26,840
it is weird.

924
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll be in a full suit, and for a

925
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,960
minute I thought he was just putting a jacket over

926
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,119
a super No, he has like an additional suit that

927
00:46:33,199 --> 00:46:35,360
he puts on, and I'm like, that's gonna take a

928
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,599
really long time to put on.

929
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: What the fuck?

930
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,559
Speaker 1: Okay?

931
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: Episode three, Double Cross.

932
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,159
Speaker 1: Ben is hired by silvermin to find out who leaked

933
00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:50,400
the liquor transfer at the hospital. He learns injured officers

934
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:54,360
were tipped off by Morris. Robbie goes to a poor

935
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,800
neighborhood to question Lincoln, but witnesses a raid ordered by Morris,

936
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,119
which was the mayor, for sing Marco and Lincoln to

937
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,480
use their powers against the cops. So we can see

938
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:07,840
Tombstone and the Sandman just taking out like cops. Uh.

939
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,639
Janet discovers Addison, Lincoln, and Marco were former prisoners of war.

940
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,000
Ben also finds out that Carmody, which, by the way,

941
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,440
the guy who played Carmody, I'm pretty sure he was

942
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,679
one of the bad guys and lost skeleton of Cadaver.

943
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:20,840
Did you ever watch that movie?

944
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:21,559
Speaker 2: Huh?

945
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 1: Speaking of a black and white comedy, that's one of

946
00:47:24,159 --> 00:47:26,840
my favorite comedies of all time. Uh.

947
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 4: I think I've heard you mentioned before I've been meaning

948
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,960
to watch that. Give me one of those where I

949
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,880
can't remember. It's got some of those weird names.

950
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,679
Speaker 2: You're like, what is that?

951
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,639
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him now, Brian Hall, I believe. I

952
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
believe that's him in the show. Hold on, let me

953
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:44,320
double check here, Spider Noir Carmoy, I'm right, Yes, that

954
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,840
guy who was pretending to be Kat's husband. He is

955
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,880
in Lost Skeleton A cadaver, one of the funniest comedies

956
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,760
I've ever seen. He's in a shit ton of stuff.

957
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,079
He's a character actor that you've seen in a million things. Uh,

958
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,920
I gotta review fucking Lost Skeleton Man. That movie is

959
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,360
so good anyway. Uh. He lied about being Kat's husband

960
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,559
to gather evidence on Morris and Cat, and that Cat

961
00:48:06,679 --> 00:48:09,280
arranged the meeting he includes Kat, leaked the transfer and

962
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,840
hired Addison to burn down Silvermain's mansion. Ben breaks into

963
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,480
Silvermain's vault, which was a good scene where he's trying

964
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:18,199
not to wake Silvermin up, and he's got like the

965
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,480
lights on. He turns the lights off whenever he shifts.

966
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, his goggles are so cool.

967
00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: He's paying Via to leave town before she exposes Cat.

968
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,639
Marco briefly considers escaping with Cat, but abandons the idea

969
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,400
due to his symptoms worsening.

970
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: A little further.

971
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: Ben later confronts Kat at Penn Station, which I was

972
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:46,559
at recently, and there's a lot of crazy people there.

973
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:50,719
I think someone how much just got stabbed there this week,

974
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,280
And I'm like, God, damn it. I go to that

975
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,400
station whenever I'm in New York changed nine years, what

976
00:48:57,559 --> 00:48:59,119
was it like a month ago? And I was there.

977
00:49:00,039 --> 00:49:01,880
I really needed to go to the bathroom and I

978
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:05,719
was waiting in line. The public restroom at Penn Station

979
00:49:06,039 --> 00:49:08,800
is one of the worst things you'll ever see. But

980
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,440
like I got to the ornal and there was just

981
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,360
this young guy sitting on like the baby changing station,

982
00:49:13,519 --> 00:49:17,280
like laughing to himself, and I went, absolutely not. I'm

983
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,079
holding it for two hours. I'm holding it for two

984
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:22,840
hours until I get home. Absolutely not.

985
00:49:23,679 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: See the way you handle that, Tony is as you

986
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,239
walk past him, you just match his laugh. Then go

987
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,599
to your stall, keep laughing, and then like you have

988
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,480
to keep laughing while you washing your hands, and then

989
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:36,800
you leave. He'll never know she were there.

990
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,119
Speaker 1: No, there wasn't enough room to run if something went

991
00:49:39,199 --> 00:49:45,039
south there wasn't enough room to run jab As she

992
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,360
tries the fleet, but Winston, who is Silvermain's right hand

993
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:53,559
man who is Lucas, captures them. After tracing marked payments

994
00:49:53,559 --> 00:49:56,880
from Silvermain, Ben frames Wisden by using the money to

995
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,320
pay via Silvermain shoots Gills Windson. I love that up

996
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,679
where Silvermain's talking to Ben, He's just like the money

997
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,679
never lies and he realizes he has marked bills.

998
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 3: That was a great setup and payoff.

999
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 4: Where moments like that, I wish they would have done

1000
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,800
a little bit of the Sin City, just like a

1001
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,519
little bit of color to some things.

1002
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been cool to see a hybrid

1003
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:23,760
of both styles.

1004
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been cool. But I love like

1005
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,960
because you think they're fucked, you think Kat and Ben

1006
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,960
are dead. But then he goes to check the money

1007
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,880
and Silvermain realizes that it's the money that was used

1008
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,519
with the money gives Winston, so it makes Winston look.

1009
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: Like the rat.

1010
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:42,199
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really really funny. Again, Spider

1011
00:50:42,519 --> 00:50:45,960
the Spider Man, we know what he cause a Rupe

1012
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,039
Goldberg thing to get a man murdered. What the Spider

1013
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:51,840
Man dies and we think it shot? And I love

1014
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,679
how comedic it is with them falling into like the graves.

1015
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene was.

1016
00:50:58,119 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 4: It was really tense and like when they when the

1017
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:03,599
the Bill reveal happened, You're like, oh yeah, I already

1018
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:04,719
forgot that happened.

1019
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: Like episode.

1020
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: Also, I love that Ben Riley is just making fun

1021
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:12,440
of all the henchmen constantly.

1022
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: He never stops insulting them even though he should. At

1023
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,519
some point he just mugs him. Yeah.

1024
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: Another solid episode.

1025
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:25,760
Speaker 2: It was worth it.

1026
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: The whole episode was great for.

1027
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,039
Speaker 1: The Spider Man breaking into silver Bin's house and and

1028
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:33,000
the whole money thing.

1029
00:51:33,039 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 2: I thought that, Oh okay, I thought it was me again?

1030
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:39,840
Was it me or you?

1031
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 4: This time?

1032
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,199
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything on my end. We good, we got,

1033
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:43,480
we got.

1034
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 2: I think we're good. Okay, it's just like you robot

1035
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,960
it for like a second, so I don't.

1036
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 7: Know what else.

1037
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,519
Speaker 2: You're good though, till you know what.

1038
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:54,599
Speaker 1: I think would help if I got like a big

1039
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:59,159
umbrella over my house to from the lane and till

1040
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,400
you know how, I think we can afford something like that.

1041
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:06,639
Super chats Please get your super chats in everyone and

1042
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,519
get you We only have two right now?

1043
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,639
Speaker 2: What is this hit that super chat button?

1044
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 8: Say?

1045
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: Okay for Fray. You think entertainment comes with no money? Ah,

1046
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:15,920
you pay the coffs.

1047
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 1: Eh, I'm a spider, and I say, all right, I

1048
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,760
didn't hate the super chat.

1049
00:52:28,039 --> 00:52:30,199
Speaker 2: This Cage like he could literally just do a whole movie.

1050
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,960
Like it's just him alone in a room, just talking,

1051
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,519
done nothing.

1052
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: My favorite thing what was that was that five minutes

1053
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,800
of Freddy's for a Puff he was in Willie's Wonderland.

1054
00:52:40,159 --> 00:52:42,639
M My favorite thing about that is I don't think

1055
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:44,679
his character's ever named and he doesn't talk, so in

1056
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,840
my head canon, it just is Nicholas Cage, like he

1057
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,840
picked up an odd job while traveling.

1058
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,519
Speaker 4: And I feel like some of those, like those any

1059
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,280
movies he did, you could string together into a single continent.

1060
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Okay U.

1061
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:09,119
Speaker 1: Episode four a mistake I'll never make again. Cat reveals

1062
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:12,440
to Ben she hired Addison to kill silver Main. Look

1063
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,239
at this shot. That's a fucking beautiful shot.

1064
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: The cinematography in this fucking show.

1065
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: Split diopter, that's beautiful, all right. Cat reveals to Ben

1066
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,920
she hired Addison to kill Silvermain so she could settle

1067
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:28,719
down with Marco after Silvermain murdered her first fiance, Marco

1068
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,159
Eves drops on their conversation. Feeling betrayed, he decides to

1069
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,079
work with Silvermain again, which should have been this picture.

1070
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 3: I did it out of order.

1071
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: Silvermain Again. Robbie and Janet interview Lincoln at the office.

1072
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:49,119
Silvermain uses Marco to intimidate Morris into backing off his

1073
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,719
campaign ending prohibition.

1074
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 3: That's right.

1075
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,679
Speaker 1: The mayor wants to win reelection, so he's trying to

1076
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,480
stop prohibition. So of course all the mobsters are like, wait,

1077
00:53:56,519 --> 00:54:01,039
we're making money from that. Ben and Kat spend the

1078
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:05,199
night at his place, where he divulges how Ruby died

1079
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,000
from a criminal he caught seeking revenge. They both leave

1080
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:12,920
after hearing a many human is attacking the Diamond District.

1081
00:54:13,039 --> 00:54:16,519
They think it's Marco, turns out to be Dirk Leeden,

1082
00:54:16,639 --> 00:54:22,840
who is what's his goddamn name? Megawatt, which I spent

1083
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:26,880
the whole series thinking this was Electro. It was saying

1084
00:54:27,199 --> 00:54:31,840
cool reinterpretation of Electro, but apparently it is a lesser

1085
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,800
known superhero called Megawatt. And I have no idea why

1086
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,039
they picked that, but they were other than Samon.

1087
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,159
Speaker 4: It seems like they were trying to get more towards

1088
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,119
the like a little more obscure Spider Man villains that

1089
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:47,039
you could play around with a whole lot more, so

1090
00:54:47,119 --> 00:54:50,280
many people wouldn't be, you know, so upset about it.

1091
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, uh part of one thing I like about

1092
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,280
how charming this is one. I like that all the

1093
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,119
bad guys are kind of just pudgy dudes.

1094
00:54:59,159 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: They're just like, what if?

1095
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,039
Speaker 1: What if all these characters you knew were actually just

1096
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,760
pudgy middle aged man.

1097
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,159
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's pretty funny.

1098
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,039
Speaker 1: Did.

1099
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,039
Speaker 2: I gotta say? I think Megawatt was probably my favorite

1100
00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:11,440
character in.

1101
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,599
Speaker 1: I looked up the character and apparently the character is

1102
00:55:16,679 --> 00:55:18,760
an actor in the comics, and that's like one of

1103
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,039
his things. He wants to be actor, which so theatrical

1104
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:26,360
when he's doing all his crime stuff. But yeah, he

1105
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,960
uh he gets to a fight with the Spider. The

1106
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,960
Spider defeats him by shutting off the power in the

1107
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:35,360
area to prevent lead In from storing any more electricity.

1108
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,920
So yeah, he basically has to keep siphoning electricity from stuff,

1109
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:40,920
and you see during the fight he gets more and

1110
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,639
more exhausted, kind of like, uh, the Spider will run

1111
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,760
out of webs. They are organic webs. I know a

1112
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:52,039
lot of Spider Man fans are very split on organic webs.

1113
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,079
But I like that that he like runs out if

1114
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:57,119
he overuses them and has to like recharge.

1115
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: But he's dark dark.

1116
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1117
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:02,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.

1118
00:56:02,199 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: Black webs that shoot out.

1119
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's gross. He's more vitamins.

1120
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: Bro, He's an alcoholic, all right, He's not the most

1121
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:20,920
nutricious Mega.

1122
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,079
Speaker 4: What uh.

1123
00:56:24,639 --> 00:56:26,599
Speaker 2: We just tar for most cigarette smoke.

1124
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,119
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, Morris, I did love this.

1125
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Morris uses this victory to boost his campaign because like,

1126
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,719
basically Silvermain was working with the mayor but then the

1127
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,920
mayor kind of screwed him over. But I like that

1128
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,039
those uh, the Spider fights Mega and the mayor just

1129
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:45,440
comes out and he's working for me, and he's like, no,

1130
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:52,320
I'm not unrelated, but to wearing that fight. Cat notices, hey,

1131
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,880
wait a minute, the Spider showed up when Ben wasn't around.

1132
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,559
Cat returns to Ben's apartment and deduces that he is

1133
00:56:58,719 --> 00:56:59,360
the Spider.

1134
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:01,559
Speaker 2: She does the classic Lois.

1135
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:07,599
Speaker 1: Lane falling out the window gamble bitch if you're w

1136
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,280
and of course he shoots the web and grabs her

1137
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,559
and then they kiss.

1138
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:18,199
Speaker 4: They're in love now till oh god, if only he

1139
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,360
had seen no war movies he would have seen what.

1140
00:57:21,559 --> 00:57:24,079
Speaker 2: Happens coming a mile away. There's a reason why they

1141
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:25,159
call him the thin fatalel.

1142
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:28,639
Speaker 3: Another good episode.

1143
00:57:28,639 --> 00:57:32,519
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got like a super powered fight because

1144
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:34,880
all we got in the first episode was Saman punching

1145
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:39,079
the spider off the or yeah, punching Ben off the building.

1146
00:57:39,159 --> 00:57:42,719
And like, for whatever reason, this forever reason, Saman didn't

1147
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:45,360
see him use his web and swing and didn't think

1148
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,360
that's weird that he survived that fall. No one's questioning it.

1149
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you listen to Flint talking the show.

1150
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,840
I don't think he's that bright. My hand's turned of sand,

1151
00:57:55,039 --> 00:57:55,920
just like my brain's.

1152
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: Uh but yeah, I really enjoyed that fight.

1153
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,159
Speaker 1: And you're right, Mega Lott is kind of the best

1154
00:58:03,199 --> 00:58:08,159
bad guy in this whole show us to like, she

1155
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:13,119
looks almost like a rash Yeah, I really did. I again,

1156
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:15,400
I really like what they did with the villains in this.

1157
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,880
Uh but yeah, really really solid. She's she really is

1158
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,000
winning me over. The girl plays Cat. I think she's

1159
00:58:23,079 --> 00:58:24,960
really really good. I kind of want to see her

1160
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:25,480
war sto.

1161
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good actress.

1162
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:31,119
Speaker 1: Actual, wait, she was in something else? Did I see

1163
00:58:31,159 --> 00:58:31,559
her in any?

1164
00:58:31,719 --> 00:58:32,559
Speaker 2: Oh? Sinners?

1165
00:58:33,199 --> 00:58:34,079
Speaker 3: Did you see Sinners?

1166
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah I did.

1167
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: She's she's the idiot who gets real mad and invites

1168
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,280
all the vampires in at.

1169
00:58:41,239 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: The that was the most like what is wrong with you?

1170
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,679
Speaker 1: People get it when she was upset and reached her

1171
00:58:49,719 --> 00:58:51,880
breaking pall like I get it, I get it, I

1172
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,159
get it. But when you're watching you're like.

1173
00:58:54,199 --> 00:58:59,079
Speaker 2: Oh, lady, no, the Sinners. The entire movie could have

1174
00:58:59,159 --> 00:59:03,440
been averted if they had just banned the vampires. Like

1175
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:05,199
when were the first time they come in? They're like, oh,

1176
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,719
let's singing dance? Like, no, you guys are banned from

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,360
the venue, all right, Dorman, don't let them in?

1178
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,559
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Sinners is a very important movie. It

1179
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:19,960
tells us that we should not be importing the Irish.

1180
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:26,840
I mean, as an irishman, I agree, yeah, yeah, if

1181
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,480
you really think about it, Sinners is very anti immigration.

1182
00:59:29,639 --> 00:59:31,360
It's like, look, we let these figners in and now

1183
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,920
they're turning our brave back because we let this Irish

1184
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,039
guy into America.

1185
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,159
Speaker 2: Don't you want to sing and dance with us?

1186
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:45,079
Speaker 1: No, that's all I always say, Irish, get him out.

1187
00:59:45,239 --> 00:59:47,679
And I say that as someone whose mother's made a

1188
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:48,559
name of O'Brien.

1189
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,239
Speaker 2: Anyway, Tony, you know how the Irish got their white

1190
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:52,880
card in America?

1191
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,119
Speaker 6: Right?

1192
00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:57,039
Speaker 1: Uh, keep in mind you're on my channel, so uh.

1193
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: See, the early nineteen hundreds, the Irish were not well

1194
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:06,880
liked in America and there was a lot of fighting

1195
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,079
with authorities and stuff.

1196
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:10,719
Speaker 2: And picture a boat showing up full.

1197
01:00:10,599 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 4: Of Italians and the Americans and the Irish both stop

1198
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:20,000
and go who the fuck is not? And the American

1199
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:23,079
The Americans are like, I don't know, and the Irish go,

1200
01:00:23,679 --> 01:00:26,920
you want us to beat them for you? And that's

1201
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,000
how we became cops.

1202
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,559
Speaker 1: And then the Americans said, okay, Irish, as long as

1203
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:36,719
you don't go sleeping with all those Italians. And then

1204
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,760
the Irish did not listen, which is why we have

1205
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,719
so many goddamn Irish Italians.

1206
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:45,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean me, included me, including the Irish tend

1207
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:57,519
to be Hypocrits. No why, I don't know what you mean.

1208
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,519
Speaker 1: Anyway, we saw gangs in New York. But thank you

1209
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:03,239
for spoiling the ending there. I didn't know.

1210
01:01:06,039 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 2: Stops.

1211
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,119
Speaker 1: They all look at a bunch of people going out

1212
01:01:09,159 --> 01:01:14,400
going the movie having this.

1213
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: In the beginning. That movie is so fucking funny day.

1214
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,480
Lewis looks over and there's just like a plumber going,

1215
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:27,239
let's it go, and he's like, oh, oh, I can't

1216
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:35,039
be having this snow weekends. Okay.

1217
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

1218
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,039
Speaker 1: Episode five betrayal, Oh, this part hurt. This is one

1219
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:44,840
of the two up man spiders. I think we're getting

1220
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,519
this here because the New Spider Man movie. I think

1221
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,000
it's heavily implied he's gonna turn into the Man Spider,

1222
01:01:49,519 --> 01:01:51,320
which I hope to fucking god he does.

1223
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 3: I hope he really does. Excited for that New Spider Man.

1224
01:01:56,079 --> 01:01:57,559
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that New Spider Man.

1225
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,039
Speaker 2: I saw a picture of Savage Hulk earlier. I don't know.

1226
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,159
I'm feeling very lukewarm about this. The Spider Man movie.

1227
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:06,039
I like the last three.

1228
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought there's been this like shift. I think

1229
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,199
it's mostly film Twitter that like once us they hate

1230
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:14,920
the MCU Spider Man, and I'm like, no, it's actually

1231
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,559
one of like the good things he still has.

1232
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,679
Speaker 4: The Only time that anybody pays attention to MCU right

1233
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:24,599
now is if a Spider Man movie comes out.

1234
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is annoying because it's people who, like

1235
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,039
I think, only grew up on the movies.

1236
01:02:30,119 --> 01:02:32,679
Speaker 2: Didn't really watch a lot of the cartoons.

1237
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 3: Because they're just like, he never has his own movie.

1238
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: He's always teaming up with the other superheroes. And I'm like, literally,

1239
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:41,159
not the first appearance of spider Man, but spider Man

1240
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,239
Issue one, the cover is him with the Fantastic Four,

1241
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:46,440
Like that's kind of been his thing, and the old

1242
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,000
movies were not allowed to do that.

1243
01:02:48,719 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 2: So it's like, no, this is like.

1244
01:02:50,079 --> 01:02:52,559
Speaker 3: Sort of his thing, is teaming up with other superheroes.

1245
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 9: He's kind of annoyed they picked Punisher, Like that's fine

1246
01:02:59,199 --> 01:03:01,679
spider Man's I mean, like, if we're gonna be like

1247
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:05,159
down the line with it, spider Man is more or

1248
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,719
less a PG superhero.

1249
01:03:07,159 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: Well you know, I mean I don't mind that. I

1250
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,840
like that you can have this character b R rated

1251
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,400
in one thing and PG in the other.

1252
01:03:14,239 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 4: Uh. Well, the thing though, bother me is that if

1253
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,400
they nerve his nature, I guess you'd say, like if

1254
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:24,840
if Punisher isn't being Punisher, like, it's fine for Spider

1255
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,400
Man be like, no, dude, don't kill him.

1256
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,199
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you doing?

1257
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,639
Speaker 4: Like that's fine, that's great because that's conflict. Yeah, I

1258
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:32,840
mean the same conflict you have with Daredevil, but with

1259
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:33,280
a kid.

1260
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, it's kind of like hitters because the MCU

1261
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,679
like they do murder bad guys. They're always killing henchmen

1262
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:39,199
and stuff.

1263
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think Spider Man will stop

1264
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,280
him killing, but I don't think Punisher.

1265
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,039
Speaker 1: I don't think Punisher is gonna do what he did

1266
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:48,199
in our nineties cartoons where he's just like, yeah, I'm

1267
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:52,159
gonna use non lethal. Yeah he's not took that. I

1268
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:54,360
think Spider Race is gonna stop him from killing, but

1269
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,920
he still will be a killer. I'm just hoping that

1270
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,880
during his I'm assuming ten minute cameo, it's not him

1271
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,599
going I once again give up being the Punisher because.

1272
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,679
Speaker 2: I fear to God that'll be t That's all I can.

1273
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: That's all he does.

1274
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,079
Speaker 2: He just keeps quitting being the Punisher anyway.

1275
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:19,119
Speaker 4: Side note, one last kill was abysmal. It was absolutely

1276
01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:21,199
it was the dumbest thing I've seen in a long and.

1277
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,199
Speaker 2: Everything was fine, but yeah, the setup for the story

1278
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,400
was dumb. But can he just actually I.

1279
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 4: Just didn't feel anything because none of it. Matt Oh

1280
01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:33,159
an old lady in a wheelchairs like, oh, we're gonna

1281
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:36,000
get you. Why didn't you just pull a shotgun out.

1282
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,679
Speaker 2: And blow her away?

1283
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: You know, she's one of the fucking mob. Like what

1284
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:43,480
But like, I'm just glad. I'm just hoping he stays punisher.

1285
01:04:43,519 --> 01:04:46,280
Now I can't do another I'm retired story. That's what

1286
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,800
I liked about boring again. I thought he was just

1287
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,039
the punisher again, like fuck you anyway. Ben reveals the

1288
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:53,960
Cat that he got his powers fifteen years earlier during

1289
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:58,320
the final days of World War One after discovering discovering

1290
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,079
German experiments on prisoners of wars he was liberating.

1291
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:04,559
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool. I love when he breaks in.

1292
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,519
Speaker 1: When he breaks into that whole camp, it just finds

1293
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:10,480
all those crazy mutants, like the man Spider here. That

1294
01:05:10,599 --> 01:05:11,000
is one of my.

1295
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: Favorite things about this series is did you ever read

1296
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,079
Batman Black and White? No?

1297
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:18,039
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1298
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,960
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a short run where

1299
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:23,199
it was just kind of like very noir like themed

1300
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,840
Batman stories, like kind of one off stories, And one

1301
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,480
of them was like Batman broke into a mad scientist's

1302
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:35,400
lab and he has like deformed mutant creatures in vials,

1303
01:05:35,559 --> 01:05:38,760
like giant vials, and like Batman has to essentially kill

1304
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,960
them to save them. It's a very terrible story. But

1305
01:05:43,119 --> 01:05:46,920
like this, this whole like the the Mad Scientists lab

1306
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,280
that we get in like later, like that ship. Oh

1307
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:50,760
it just it hits all the right buttons.

1308
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:53,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're like, okay, I got it for like

1309
01:05:53,559 --> 01:05:55,679
the animals. I saw the electric eel and stuff. But

1310
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,480
when it came to Sandman, I was like, wait, how

1311
01:05:57,519 --> 01:05:58,599
are they putting sand.

1312
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:03,079
Speaker 2: DNA damn sand with the man? What I'm kidding.

1313
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:05,039
Speaker 1: I get everything else but the fire guy and the

1314
01:06:05,159 --> 01:06:08,519
sandman based on how they turned into a fire guy

1315
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:11,679
in a sand guy, I get like tombstone being like

1316
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,320
a crustacean, the electric eel, the smile, I get all

1317
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,800
of that with the sand and fire guy. Like, okay,

1318
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,280
these seem a little This seems like a different kind

1319
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:21,480
of science.

1320
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 2: Where'd you get the fire from fire ants? What that's

1321
01:06:27,559 --> 01:06:28,639
not How that doesn't work.

1322
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: The same way as electric eels. Anyway, he was bitten

1323
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,239
by a mutated half spider prisoner.

1324
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: Which they just fucking kill. They just walk up and

1325
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,079
just shoot that guy in the mind put the guy

1326
01:06:39,119 --> 01:06:42,159
out of his fucking misery. With the guys dying already,

1327
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:46,559
Robbie regains his job at the daily Bugle.

1328
01:06:46,719 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: Using his story about the Spider and Leaden's battle, he

1329
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,760
and Janet discover every meta human had seen Doctor Faber

1330
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,920
before developing powers, which, by the way, when he's in

1331
01:06:59,079 --> 01:07:01,119
the past, I love when like he first wakes up

1332
01:07:01,159 --> 01:07:03,079
on the bike, he's like acting like a spider.

1333
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like all curled up. Yeah, like.

1334
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: Like when spiders are resting, they put their arms like,

1335
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,119
and he does it. Like later on when he's like

1336
01:07:11,239 --> 01:07:14,079
drunken fan out, he will start to kind of act

1337
01:07:14,239 --> 01:07:18,719
like a spider, which, yeah, I feel like that is

1338
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,639
like the cage being like I should probably do something

1339
01:07:20,679 --> 01:07:26,360
like spider movement. And I love that he can't control

1340
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:31,239
it at first, he's like, oh yeah, which, by the way,

1341
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:35,000
here is where he tells Kat that he uh, when

1342
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:36,920
he got back, he the spider part of.

1343
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: His brain was like taking over.

1344
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:41,039
Speaker 1: So when he got to America, he was watching like

1345
01:07:41,159 --> 01:07:44,119
detective films to learn how to talk again. And like

1346
01:07:44,199 --> 01:07:46,519
that's kind of funny that that's how like he's just

1347
01:07:46,639 --> 01:07:48,320
imitating what he saw in films because he had to

1348
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,559
teach himself how to be a human to counter the

1349
01:07:51,679 --> 01:07:57,199
Spider powers. Like that's really fucking clever and really funny. Also,

1350
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,679
I think they dated him. It looked great in black

1351
01:07:59,719 --> 01:08:01,719
of WAE. I have not seen it in color. I

1352
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,360
want to see what the scene looks like in color,

1353
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,199
to see if the d aging is more noticeable or not. Yeah,

1354
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:06,559
I didn't.

1355
01:08:06,679 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: I didn't really know.

1356
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: Like he Nicholas Cage doesn't really age already, so like

1357
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,599
he looks a little smoother and thinner here.

1358
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's mainly the neck. You know, maybe he

1359
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:20,760
got a facelift shots.

1360
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, they met with doctor Faber for developing their powers.

1361
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:31,359
While Robbie interrogates Faber in her secretary Ogden, Do you

1362
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,399
know who Ogden is?

1363
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:36,399
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't. I wasn't familiar with this guy.

1364
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:41,119
Speaker 1: That's Andrew Robertson, uh uncle or Larry from Hell Raiser.

1365
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,159
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god?

1366
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: Really yeah, and I know until I know what you're thinking. Wait,

1367
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,119
you need the bad guy from Transfers three. Yes, of

1368
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:51,760
course the bad guys are transfer Que, but he also

1369
01:08:52,199 --> 01:08:54,520
is Larry from Hell Raiser. He says the same quote

1370
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,800
in Transfer three, he does the come to daddy thing.

1371
01:08:57,119 --> 01:08:58,960
I guess they wanted that to be his. I'll be

1372
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:01,479
back and if you only ever did it in two movies.

1373
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:04,800
But no, it's literally I've seen hell Raise till I

1374
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,119
can't tell you how many times I've seen hell Raser,

1375
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,880
and I don't see Andrew Robinson in a lot of

1376
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:13,079
things these days. So when I saw his face, I'm like,

1377
01:09:13,239 --> 01:09:16,079
that's fucking Larry from Hellraser and this.

1378
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: Guys are wondering.

1379
01:09:17,119 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: My cousin Monica, who I forced to watch every Hell

1380
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,239
Racer movie, who loves Spider Man and stuff.

1381
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,520
Speaker 3: I text her, I'm like, I can't believe Larry.

1382
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: Was in this, and she went, oh, I stopped watching

1383
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,600
and I couldn't get into it, and I went, what, Like,

1384
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:32,079
this is what the hell?

1385
01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 3: So I'm no longer talking to my cousin Monica.

1386
01:09:38,359 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 2: He was also in a Dirty Harry movie.

1387
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:41,279
Speaker 3: Yes, he was in the.

1388
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:42,359
Speaker 2: First Dirty Harry movie.

1389
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: While Robbie interrogates favor her secretary Ogden or ogin Ben

1390
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,520
Seal's medical files, proving Faber tried to cure the mena

1391
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,840
humans but instead aggravated their conditions and that they will

1392
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,439
die if they keep using their powers. Marco, now Silvermain's

1393
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:06,960
right hand man, recruits Lincoln and Freese lead in to

1394
01:10:07,119 --> 01:10:10,560
join them. Silvermain warns Ben to keep the Spider out

1395
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,119
of his conflict with Morris. Ben asks Kat to leave

1396
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:18,119
the city with him, and she agrees, but Marco oh Color.

1397
01:10:19,119 --> 01:10:23,520
But Marco confronts her over hiring Addison without telling him.

1398
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,920
Lincoln informs Cat that Favor believes seeing the Spider could

1399
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,199
help her find a cure, leading Cat to reveal Ben's

1400
01:10:33,279 --> 01:10:37,159
secret to Favor. She fucking betrayed him. One thing we

1401
01:10:37,239 --> 01:10:42,680
haven't mentioned Silvermain and Cat. Silvermain has this whole control

1402
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,159
over Cat. He just wants to control everything about her

1403
01:10:46,279 --> 01:10:50,079
and make decisions for her. That's his thing. And it

1404
01:10:50,279 --> 01:10:53,479
reminded me of Frank from Blue Velvet. Do you ever

1405
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,640
see Blue Velvet? David Lynch's Blue Velvet?

1406
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,359
Speaker 2: That was one of the ones I didn't see.

1407
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 4: No, I've seen the Hole and drive, Okay, like there

1408
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,920
was blue Velvet.

1409
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: I'll get into that eventually, and then I just never did.

1410
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were, like, I haven't seen

1411
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,039
Inland Empire, like, okay, yeah, Blue Belt skip that you're

1412
01:11:14,119 --> 01:11:16,560
you're like, you're like Tony, I'm a really big Lucas fan.

1413
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,359
Speaker 3: I love th X eleven thirty eight. Haven't gotten around

1414
01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:19,800
the Star.

1415
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:28,119
Speaker 2: Wars, but you know it's also Crash. It was Crash

1416
01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:32,199
one of his wall I've thought about David Lynch. No,

1417
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:35,560
Crash is one of his, not the not the race one.

1418
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:36,560
There was one where it was all the.

1419
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:41,079
Speaker 1: No no, that was Cronenberg. I think.

1420
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:44,199
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I get Cronenberg, and Lynch sometimes makes I'm

1421
01:11:44,279 --> 01:11:45,640
more of a Kronenberg guy person.

1422
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1423
01:11:46,279 --> 01:11:48,039
Speaker 3: In Blue Velvet, Uh.

1424
01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:54,079
Speaker 1: What's his face? Who played Frank Jesus Christ King Koopa?

1425
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 4: Uh?

1426
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh, Gene Hackman, Haman Hackman, fucking.

1427
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: Hooper Hopper, Tennis Hopper. He's doing the same thing where

1428
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,119
he's like, uh, basically harassing this girl drothy and ruining

1429
01:12:11,159 --> 01:12:13,640
her life, like kidnapped her husband and everything, and basically

1430
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,760
tells her what to do and everything. But it's because

1431
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,600
he's like impotent, so he can't like have sex or anything,

1432
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,239
so he just so he has control, because like there

1433
01:12:21,279 --> 01:12:23,119
was a whole thing where like Silvermin is never making

1434
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:26,079
a move on her or anything. But I think the

1435
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:28,000
show didn't want to say he was impotent, so they

1436
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:31,439
just turned it into a control thing. Whereas in Blue

1437
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,680
Velvet you see Frank have a mental breakdown because he

1438
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:34,760
can't do anything.

1439
01:12:36,359 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 2: On the medical field. They call that Ethan Ralph syndrome's

1440
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,359
that's not not on this show, let's not.

1441
01:12:49,239 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if Ethan Ralph remembers who I am,

1442
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,560
but I think I left the chat on his stream

1443
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,439
like two years ago when things are going well and

1444
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,279
he said hi to me, let's just keep it at that.

1445
01:12:58,399 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to bring that

1446
01:13:00,239 --> 01:13:01,720
way doctor till please.

1447
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: It was all me. It was all me. Tony's innocent.

1448
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: Hope Ralph is doing great. I don't know anything going

1449
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,880
on in his life right now.

1450
01:13:13,039 --> 01:13:16,319
Speaker 2: I hope he's I hope all his flights go well.

1451
01:13:18,199 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: God damn you.

1452
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: Anyway.

1453
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,119
Speaker 1: Silvermain is basically Frank for Blue Velvet, only he doesn't

1454
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:29,319
have an oxygen mask and he doesn't scream mommy, although

1455
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:31,319
he probably does that behind the scenes, we're just not

1456
01:13:31,399 --> 01:13:31,760
seeing it.

1457
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:34,159
Speaker 2: So yeah.

1458
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:38,079
Speaker 1: I loved all the origin stuff in this episode, with

1459
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:40,479
him going into the camp, getting into the fight, and

1460
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:41,239
finding the lab.

1461
01:13:41,279 --> 01:13:43,359
Speaker 3: I thought that was really cool. It's a cool twist

1462
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,439
on the classic.

1463
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:48,199
Speaker 1: Spider Man tail of how he got his powers, and again,

1464
01:13:48,279 --> 01:13:51,359
the Muans and the monsters were fucking crazy looking. How'd

1465
01:13:51,359 --> 01:13:54,319
you feel about this episode? It's probably one of my favorite.

1466
01:13:54,039 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 4: Because a lot of times when shows they do the

1467
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,800
flashbacks and I'm like, yes, you know, it's great filling

1468
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,000
in holes that really didn't need to fill in. Yeah,

1469
01:14:02,039 --> 01:14:04,439
I love the flashback of him getting his powers. That

1470
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,640
might be one of my favorite, like superheroes getting the

1471
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:07,520
power sequences.

1472
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's important because like his org, which

1473
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:13,439
a lot of these you could just skip the origin obviously,

1474
01:14:14,279 --> 01:14:17,960
but his origin is tied into the villains and part

1475
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,840
of like the plot and how it gets resolved. So

1476
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,760
it's like something we needed to see. And I thought

1477
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,359
that was very clever. So it's cool how like each

1478
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,880
new mutant it's like, oh, they're all in this one

1479
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:34,159
prisoner of war thing. And then also Ben was there

1480
01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:38,359
this like apparently this pow camp was the most important

1481
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:39,439
thing that happened in the war.

1482
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: They kept a bunch of mutants out of it.

1483
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 3: So I mean, and I like the twist with doctor Faber.

1484
01:14:48,079 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: We we learn a little bit more about it in

1485
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,359
the next episode, but like, she's not like creating the mutans,

1486
01:14:53,399 --> 01:14:55,279
and I swore to god she was gonna be like

1487
01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:59,159
the Jackal or something because he's always doing like clones

1488
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:02,880
and stuff, and this Spider Man movies or not movies,

1489
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,399
comics and cartoons. Uh but yeah, so I like that

1490
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,319
she tried to help him and it made it worse.

1491
01:15:08,359 --> 01:15:10,600
It made whatever the Germans did worse. I thought that

1492
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,640
was a neat twist instead of she's here in America

1493
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,800
now continuing your experiments. Yeah, and of course we all

1494
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,600
knew that that fem fatale was going to double cross Ben.

1495
01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:28,000
We all knew that. Oh yeah, so that was a

1496
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,439
good cliffhanger of the episode. Up next, we got three

1497
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,760
episodes left eight episode series Nightmare on a Gurney. Episode six,

1498
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:40,239
Ogden Orrogden I cannot pronounce that name comes to Ben's

1499
01:15:40,279 --> 01:15:43,880
department and disclose it discloses he has served in the

1500
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,800
war as well, but his mutation has rapidly aged him.

1501
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,039
So he's actually much younger than everyone.

1502
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:51,560
Speaker 2: What.

1503
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 4: I don't know, who is he supposed to be in

1504
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,800
like the like the the Normal Spider Man. Was there

1505
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,439
just a bad guy who just got old?

1506
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: That was hours made up for the show. I don't

1507
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,119
think it's I was just like I was wondering, like,

1508
01:16:06,359 --> 01:16:06,800
who is he?

1509
01:16:07,039 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 2: Who could he be?

1510
01:16:08,119 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: But again, this camp, are they making animal people or

1511
01:16:12,279 --> 01:16:15,119
fire sand people? And then this guy just gets old.

1512
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,119
Like what they were they doing?

1513
01:16:17,239 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 4: They crossed his DNA with a dog.

1514
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,640
Speaker 2: Ages seven times three. That's it.

1515
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: That's the only Why'm so loyal to as mom. But

1516
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,880
his mutation is rapidly aging him. When Ben refuses to cooperate,

1517
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,439
he drugs him. I do think that's funny. When he

1518
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,560
pulls out the Needle's like, well, sorry, I have to

1519
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,560
do this, which I forget if Ben's spider sense kicked in.

1520
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,279
Speaker 2: Uh there, Oh, that's one thing we haven't mentioned. I

1521
01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:52,079
love the way they do the spider sense.

1522
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like the hairs on the back of his

1523
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,479
neck stand up and he rubs them and the camera

1524
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,239
shakes a little bit.

1525
01:16:57,279 --> 01:16:58,119
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.

1526
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like visual you you don't really do it

1527
01:17:01,359 --> 01:17:04,119
a lot in the Sony Spider Man movies, like he

1528
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:07,960
doesn't really like occasionally they talk about as Peter Tingle

1529
01:17:08,039 --> 01:17:08,880
and like the third one.

1530
01:17:09,039 --> 01:17:13,399
Speaker 2: But it's he had it in Civil War. It wasn't

1531
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,680
until Far from Home where he like mastered it.

1532
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,199
Speaker 1: That was like the thing I think he had like

1533
01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:20,560
trouble Masters, and that's he has to master it to

1534
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:25,359
like figure out the uh, the the illusions that what's

1535
01:17:25,399 --> 01:17:29,760
his face. Uh yeah, that's that. Whole movie is like

1536
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,079
he's had this thing. It works, but he never really

1537
01:17:32,159 --> 01:17:34,960
like focused on and everything, and that movie forced him

1538
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,279
to kindly kind of finally figure it out. I liked

1539
01:17:37,319 --> 01:17:40,800
in No Way Home when he gets his soul punched

1540
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,079
out of his body and the spider Spencers are going,

1541
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:44,720
you see the little lines.

1542
01:17:44,359 --> 01:17:46,039
Speaker 2: Like the that.

1543
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, Uh, doctor Strange is a dick for doing that.

1544
01:17:53,279 --> 01:17:55,239
You just brushed the kid's soul out of his body.

1545
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,000
I feel like you should be in jail.

1546
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:00,520
Speaker 2: Favor.

1547
01:18:01,119 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: Favor reveals that Ogden is her son and she's determined

1548
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,520
to find a cure for them. Wait yes, uh, Meta

1549
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,359
humans help him before examining Ben's organs because he was

1550
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,119
able to bond with the spiderself so well and he's fine,

1551
01:18:14,199 --> 01:18:16,399
They figure whatever work for him could be the cure

1552
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:20,600
for everyone else. During her operation, Ben has nightmares about

1553
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:26,640
the procedures and changes he endured after the spider bite.

1554
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:27,119
Speaker 2: That was cool.

1555
01:18:27,119 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: When they like cut him open and all the spiders

1556
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:33,119
come out, Yeah into a spider on his face, that

1557
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:33,680
was awesome.

1558
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 2: Uh.

1559
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,199
Speaker 1: Favor is able to develop a cure and reserve restores

1560
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:44,359
Ogden to his true age. She plans to kill Ben

1561
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,039
so they could cover their tracks, but Ogden allows him

1562
01:18:47,039 --> 01:18:51,479
to escape to repay his services. Silvermain and his men

1563
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:55,680
invade the facility to find more many humans to join

1564
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,520
the Did they find like failed mutans?

1565
01:19:00,079 --> 01:19:00,199
Speaker 8: Uh?

1566
01:19:00,279 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: Huh see, I like he knows some of them. It

1567
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:05,439
was other people that they were in the war with.

1568
01:19:06,119 --> 01:19:06,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1569
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,279
Speaker 4: I feel like one of the things that uh favor

1570
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:14,640
like didn't ever consider is he didn't get the treatment directly,

1571
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,800
like the stuff that the Germans we're doing. His stuff

1572
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,920
came from a bite from someone who is directly affected

1573
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,560
by the treatment.

1574
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,399
Speaker 2: So I don't know. That just seems like a detail

1575
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:29,920
that could have been useful to her.

1576
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she didn't think about that.

1577
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 4: This this episode two, while it has some of my

1578
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:44,920
favorite stuff, it probably has my least favorite convenience of

1579
01:19:45,039 --> 01:19:45,640
the whole show.

1580
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 2: That kind of makes Spider Noir not the best of guys. Okay,

1581
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,640
but uh, you know the end of it, I guess

1582
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,960
we'll finish it here and then I'll talk about that more.

1583
01:19:58,079 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, well, basically.

1584
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,199
Speaker 1: Leading Uh kills the doctor and Therasana, Silvermain, Silvermain's Ben

1585
01:20:05,359 --> 01:20:08,199
blow up the lab. Ben leaves with the cure in

1586
01:20:08,239 --> 01:20:09,560
his possession. That's it.

1587
01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1588
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,239
Speaker 4: So like the the end, like where Silvermain's guys like

1589
01:20:14,319 --> 01:20:17,600
I know, like he was like injured personally. I just

1590
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,680
would have liked a little more at least effort or

1591
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:23,840
acknowledgement that these people.

1592
01:20:25,119 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: Might be dying down.

1593
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 4: There, because with Silvermain and like he sees the places

1594
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,119
like burning at one point, he doesn't even.

1595
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 2: Try to go in.

1596
01:20:32,279 --> 01:20:36,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it conveniently blows up like you know, right

1597
01:20:36,119 --> 01:20:38,279
as he's getting over the hill with the with the cure.

1598
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,239
I was like, I just wish they would have He's

1599
01:20:41,279 --> 01:20:43,119
a hero. I wish he would have done something at

1600
01:20:43,199 --> 01:20:44,600
least tried something heroic there.

1601
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,199
Speaker 1: Well I also think he was like still like tripped

1602
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:48,800
out and ship.

1603
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that could have been a good reason

1604
01:20:51,399 --> 01:20:53,840
for why he didn't get there in time or whatever.

1605
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have worked like he went back to help,

1606
01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:03,920
but you couldn't get there enough. But yeah, uh I

1607
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,079
thought it was. And then we got this cool element

1608
01:21:07,119 --> 01:21:08,720
where they killed the people who can make the cure,

1609
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,800
so we're only limited to like six needles.

1610
01:21:11,359 --> 01:21:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah you get every time, dude, Dude that you know.

1611
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,239
Speaker 1: My famous I uh phobia all right.

1612
01:21:25,079 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 4: I thought about warning you, but I was like, I

1613
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,439
don't want to spoil anything. It's very quick, so hopefully

1614
01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:31,680
it won't bother him too much.

1615
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,279
Speaker 1: When I tell you in the next episode that I

1616
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,159
audibly screamed, I'm not lying. I did do and I

1617
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:39,039
didn't have anything.

1618
01:21:40,359 --> 01:21:42,520
Speaker 2: God damn it. Oh, I know that's not bothered Tony.

1619
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm guessing not many of the people who

1620
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:50,399
followed me are watching this because usually when something new

1621
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,159
comes out and there's an eye stabbing, I get, Tony,

1622
01:21:53,239 --> 01:21:56,000
you're gonna love this. I didn't get a single one,

1623
01:21:56,439 --> 01:22:03,439
so I wasn't prepared till I wasn't prepared. Episode seven, Uh,

1624
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Nobody's hero Silver Main has Leading and Marco attack Morris's

1625
01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:11,600
campaign off this and steal his money. Ben drowns his

1626
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:15,439
sorrow over Cat's betrayal in alcohol at a bar and

1627
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:16,800
beats up a group.

1628
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: Of naysayers, which does.

1629
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 1: This is great because they come in and they're just

1630
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,239
making fun of the spiders, like maybe the spider's just

1631
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:26,199
just like a guy.

1632
01:22:26,279 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 3: He's trying to do.

1633
01:22:30,199 --> 01:22:31,199
Speaker 2: Face I love.

1634
01:22:31,279 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 1: He druggedly walks out of the bar, doesn't put the

1635
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,760
full suit on, just the mask, trunckedly walks back and

1636
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:44,520
they're like, it's the Spider. I'm like, this is great.

1637
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,720
I love that they're so committed to that guy has

1638
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:47,159
a mask.

1639
01:22:47,239 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: He clearly can't be the last guy.

1640
01:22:52,279 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: And he kicks the ship out of him, but he

1641
01:22:54,039 --> 01:22:57,439
uses way too much webbing, which will screw him over

1642
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:02,279
in the next fight. After some encouragement from Robbie to

1643
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,359
help other many humans, Ben prepares to prepares doses of

1644
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,479
the antidote to cure all of them, and plans to

1645
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,800
use it on himself afterwards, which, by the way, I

1646
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:19,199
believe here is where Janet learns that he's the Spider

1647
01:23:19,399 --> 01:23:22,840
for the first time and out about how did you

1648
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,920
love that? Where he's like, I'm the Spider and she's like, yeah,

1649
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,960
you've told me, and then it's just a montage. I

1650
01:23:29,119 --> 01:23:30,000
was laughing so hard.

1651
01:23:33,399 --> 01:23:33,560
Speaker 4: Man.

1652
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: It turns out years ago, when he was the Spider

1653
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,520
and he would get ship based, she would routinely walk

1654
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,560
in on him drunk in the Spider alph and and

1655
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,760
each time he would tell her he was the Spider

1656
01:23:46,039 --> 01:23:48,720
and then he would forget. So he thinks it's the

1657
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:52,399
first time every single time, and she's just like, yeah,

1658
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,439
I've known for a really long time. I was just

1659
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:55,199
helping you out.

1660
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,239
Speaker 4: I forgot to mention that little kid he recruits all

1661
01:24:00,279 --> 01:24:03,399
his private eye stuff. Oh, the real gangster of the

1662
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:04,239
real translator.

1663
01:24:04,319 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just a little more. Hey was that Janet's

1664
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,239
like son. She's like teaching him like english and math.

1665
01:24:11,319 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 1: At one point, I think he was just a neighborhood kid.

1666
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:14,079
Speaker 2: Oh okay.

1667
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 1: She's always correcting his like lingo because he's using old

1668
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,399
timey twenties lingo, and she's like, stop it, say it

1669
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:25,000
like this. I just I just love when he's just

1670
01:24:25,079 --> 01:24:27,640
wearing the goggles and the hat and then just like

1671
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:28,560
the white tank top.

1672
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,239
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm the Spider. The Spider is busy.

1673
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh and when she comes in, turns on the light

1674
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,079
and he's sitting on his desk with his typewriter on

1675
01:24:36,159 --> 01:24:38,359
his lap, and he's just got the goggles on and

1676
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:44,560
he's just typing, and he's just like, I'm visual right now,

1677
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:48,279
I'm hanging on.

1678
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:50,119
Speaker 1: The walls singing. He's like, I'm just.

1679
01:24:54,119 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 2: Okay.

1680
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,239
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, he wants to quit being the Spider,

1681
01:24:58,359 --> 01:25:01,319
so he's gonna say the last ana for him. As

1682
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:05,199
the Spider struggles use his powers battling Lincoln due to

1683
01:25:05,279 --> 01:25:09,039
a previously due to previously over using his webbing in

1684
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:09,600
the bar fight.

1685
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,279
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot. I had a picture of it.

1686
01:25:13,199 --> 01:25:14,039
Speaker 1: Robbie manages.

1687
01:25:15,039 --> 01:25:19,239
Speaker 2: I feel like those cages actually had that situation happened once.

1688
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: Which okay, So I did like that. The rival mayor

1689
01:25:25,159 --> 01:25:28,239
candidate is just giving beer to the cops. He's like,

1690
01:25:28,359 --> 01:25:33,319
vote for mayor. This vote for may or. So yeah, uh,

1691
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,119
he a fight. He fights Tombstone and they can't get

1692
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:41,840
the needle in his skin, so they injected into his eyeball.

1693
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:43,880
I was so close.

1694
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,359
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if he's watched this

1695
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,199
part yet, because I wasn't sure where you were at

1696
01:25:47,239 --> 01:25:49,359
in the show, and I wanted to be like, hey,

1697
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:52,199
in episode seven, when Robbie picks up a needle, close

1698
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:52,640
your eyes.

1699
01:25:54,199 --> 01:25:57,199
Speaker 1: I literally like, I went like, Oh, how's he gonna

1700
01:25:57,279 --> 01:25:58,840
get the needle in there of his skin?

1701
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,239
Speaker 2: To I was like, Oh, they're obviously going to have

1702
01:26:03,279 --> 01:26:05,039
to do it in soft tissue. Where would that be? Oh,

1703
01:26:05,119 --> 01:26:09,159
his eyeballs? I was screaming.

1704
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: I went no, because it's pretty rough, man. It gets

1705
01:26:13,119 --> 01:26:15,279
in there and he's screaming for a while.

1706
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 2: They would have done it as ass.

1707
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 1: So he's cured and they help him evade the police

1708
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,680
while Ben recovers from the fight, which again he's on

1709
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,760
the bed like this in the Spider Out. Yeah, Lincoln

1710
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:33,479
thanks the two for helping him, encouraging encourages Robbie to

1711
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,239
find another way to report outside of the Daily Bugle

1712
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:39,479
and leaves the city with his mother. Both Silvermain and

1713
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,039
Morris find out what happened in order order them men

1714
01:26:43,359 --> 01:26:46,760
order their men to get Ben to contact the spiders.

1715
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,880
Now the mayor and the mobster what Ben's friend the

1716
01:26:50,039 --> 01:26:51,279
Spider to talk to them?

1717
01:26:53,359 --> 01:26:54,039
Speaker 3: Good episode.

1718
01:26:54,119 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: I love the bar fight. The bar fight was great.

1719
01:26:56,399 --> 01:26:57,840
Oh yeah, that was definitely a highlight.

1720
01:26:58,079 --> 01:27:01,520
Speaker 1: They all the spiders stuff is great. That's like the

1721
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,680
best part of Yeah.

1722
01:27:03,279 --> 01:27:05,039
Speaker 4: They did such a great job with the I don't

1723
01:27:05,159 --> 01:27:09,640
you call it like the where the camera like follows

1724
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:11,960
like his foot or his fist as he yeah, punch

1725
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:14,800
like he does like in the first episode where he's

1726
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,399
fighting the jewelry store robbers with the Tommy guns. He

1727
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,199
does a sweep kick and the camera like is almost

1728
01:27:21,359 --> 01:27:23,800
tracked to his foot as he's like sliding around.

1729
01:27:24,199 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool. It's very like kinetic, like like filmmaking.

1730
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:28,279
I love it.

1731
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: Also, look at this fucking shot. Look at the blues outside.

1732
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:35,960
You can see the hint of red on the curtains.

1733
01:27:38,199 --> 01:27:41,239
I watched I watched all Mandalorian season three and it

1734
01:27:41,319 --> 01:27:43,359
was all muted, desaturated colors.

1735
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? My can't shows look like this?

1736
01:27:47,359 --> 01:27:48,640
It was a gorgeous show.

1737
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:51,039
Speaker 1: That was problem in video games for a while, like

1738
01:27:51,079 --> 01:27:53,880
the early twenty tens, like everything was like brown or

1739
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,399
gray like all the it worked for like Gears of War,

1740
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,199
but then everything was doing it.

1741
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:01,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

1742
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:08,680
Speaker 1: Next up, last episode, the Man in the mask Cat

1743
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,600
tells Janet to ask Ben for the antidote to cure

1744
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,600
Marco and Leaden uh but they follow Janet to Robbie's

1745
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,079
place and capture Ben. Silvermain forces Ben to contact the Spider,

1746
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:21,439
which is pretty funny.

1747
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 2: With Robbie posing as him.

1748
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,600
Speaker 1: That was a good thing where they start to figure

1749
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,319
out that Ben's the Spider and then Robbie shows up

1750
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,119
doing a Nicholas cage.

1751
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good on the phone talking to because

1752
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,720
he just calls Robbie when he's like, call you for

1753
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,399
the Spider, He's like, She's.

1754
01:28:39,279 --> 01:28:41,199
Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing. He's like, I'm doing this.

1755
01:28:44,079 --> 01:28:48,159
Speaker 1: After Leaden recognizes Ben from the war, which, by the way,

1756
01:28:48,239 --> 01:28:51,319
I think, uh, the mad scientist. They said, we weren't

1757
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:53,560
sure it was you until we realize you changed your name.

1758
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:58,479
I think that's cementing that he is Peter Parker. Silvermain

1759
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:00,520
realizes Ben is the Spider and threw his cat to

1760
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:04,680
make him confess. To protect Ben, cat reveals she portrayed

1761
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:08,319
Silvermin be where Silverman can killer Robbie arrives dressed as

1762
01:29:08,319 --> 01:29:12,000
the Spider, Leading injects Robbie with the cure and electrocutes

1763
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:16,439
sim then tries to persuade Marco to help overthrow Silvermain.

1764
01:29:18,359 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 2: I saw this coming from my way. I was like,

1765
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:22,199
this guy is not He's not gonna be uh.

1766
01:29:24,039 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Ben regains use of his webbing. I love that he

1767
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:29,720
keeps trying to shoot the webs and coming out.

1768
01:29:30,399 --> 01:29:34,079
Speaker 4: Silverman at one point is like convinced that Ben is

1769
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:36,840
the Spider, and so he points a gun at a

1770
01:29:37,119 --> 01:29:40,399
cat and it's basically like, you know, if you're not

1771
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,880
the Spider, then I I kill a rat.

1772
01:29:43,159 --> 01:29:45,199
Speaker 2: If you are the Spider, you'll stop me, and I

1773
01:29:45,319 --> 01:29:45,600
got you.

1774
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 4: And he's like under the tables like, come on, come on,

1775
01:29:52,760 --> 01:29:57,000
remind me of the the first Toby reguards like go web.

1776
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't they hand motions and stuff like trying to

1777
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:11,359
figure out fly fly Uh no, no, no, okay, uh

1778
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,760
Robbie rise Well.

1779
01:30:15,079 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 1: So he tries to persuade Marco to help overthrow Silver

1780
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,239
Rain Bembergaine's use of his webbing fights leading to Marco

1781
01:30:20,319 --> 01:30:24,079
while Cat tracks down and kills Silvermain. I love where

1782
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:26,000
he's going through, like that hall of mirrors because they're

1783
01:30:26,039 --> 01:30:28,800
like in a theater or something that was cool chasing

1784
01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:30,039
and she just shoots him in the heart.

1785
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm really happy you're the one who killed me.

1786
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,880
But he I hope they bring him back.

1787
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 4: Imagine like almost like you know Art decos, like you

1788
01:30:43,039 --> 01:30:45,720
know the Superman cartoon, like the kind of robot like

1789
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,239
from like Metropolis and ship.

1790
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be cool.

1791
01:30:49,359 --> 01:30:57,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be down to see that. Marco turns on

1792
01:30:57,279 --> 01:31:03,319
lead in after he attacks Cat, the Spider kills lead him.

1793
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:04,079
Speaker 2: This is pretty good.

1794
01:31:04,279 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: So he like kind of shoots the electricity and turns

1795
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,000
Sandman into a puddle of sand. But I love when

1796
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:11,720
the Spider just picks him up and pros him in

1797
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:12,800
front of the fucking train.

1798
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the fight, the final fight is probably one

1799
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,279
of the best, like the highlights of the show.

1800
01:31:20,159 --> 01:31:23,399
Speaker 2: And yeah, they do a really good job.

1801
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,279
Speaker 4: Like you know, there's like a role in like action

1802
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,399
movies or whatever, like all your action needs to be motivated.

1803
01:31:29,439 --> 01:31:33,279
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's just you know, filler. It's just it's just

1804
01:31:33,319 --> 01:31:37,239
stuff happening. And this was really it almost felt like

1805
01:31:37,279 --> 01:31:39,640
an old stage play with where they were staging up

1806
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,239
the the conflicts and the turns and stuff in the fight,

1807
01:31:43,359 --> 01:31:45,439
and you got like Sandman.

1808
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:49,239
Speaker 4: Who still loves a cat, and so he eventually turns

1809
01:31:49,279 --> 01:31:52,039
on Megawatt to like, you know, try to take Mega

1810
01:31:52,239 --> 01:31:55,119
down and then Megawatt turns his arms and face to glass.

1811
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 2: That was dope. That was cool as hell.

1812
01:31:59,039 --> 01:32:01,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Spider's like knocked out for a lot,

1813
01:32:01,239 --> 01:32:06,079
like a good portion of this fight. So yuh, he

1814
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:10,199
gives the last antidote dose to Marco, sacrificing his only

1815
01:32:10,319 --> 01:32:13,279
chance to become human again so Cat and Marco can

1816
01:32:13,359 --> 01:32:14,039
be together.

1817
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:17,199
Speaker 3: We're like, we're like Spider cuck am I Right.

1818
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:22,079
Speaker 4: It felt very still like in Lie with like the

1819
01:32:22,119 --> 01:32:25,000
old Noirs, Like, yeah, the detective never really gets the

1820
01:32:25,079 --> 01:32:28,600
guy gets the girl. He just like, you know, kind

1821
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:32,560
of keeps her warm until her shows not copy like

1822
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,560
I guess it's just a hoe.

1823
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,000
Speaker 3: Later, Robbie Lee Lobby.

1824
01:32:40,159 --> 01:32:43,359
Speaker 1: Robbie leaves the Daily Bugle to lead the Harlem Herald.

1825
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:48,560
Morris wins reelection. Uh where am I at here? What happened? Uh?

1826
01:32:49,039 --> 01:32:52,039
And Ben and Janet renovate their office now called Riley

1827
01:32:52,159 --> 01:32:54,840
and Ruie's Investigations because she did do a lot of

1828
01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:58,079
work on this case. Apparently she was based off I

1829
01:32:58,159 --> 01:33:00,199
haven't seen any of the movies, but based off like

1830
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:03,119
the Assistant and the Maltese Falcon. I probably should watch

1831
01:33:03,359 --> 01:33:03,920
like ten.

1832
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 2: Versions of Maltese Falcon's really good?

1833
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 3: Which one?

1834
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,560
Speaker 1: There's like multiple ones, the Humphrey Bogart one. I guess

1835
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:11,960
that would be the one to watch, but there was

1836
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:17,159
like one before that. I think, yeah, and then it ends, uh,

1837
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,880
really really good show. I had a great time with this.

1838
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:25,720
I don't know why more people aren't like I think

1839
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,560
just there aren't a lot of people watching it.

1840
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I have a number one on Amazon right now, or maybe.

1841
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:35,159
Speaker 1: There were people watching it but not talking about I

1842
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:36,920
don't see many people talking about it.

1843
01:33:37,079 --> 01:33:39,199
Speaker 2: I think it's the binge model that really does this,

1844
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:40,840
because like, yeah.

1845
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:47,119
Speaker 1: I was gonna put this on on like the wrap

1846
01:33:47,239 --> 01:33:50,000
up for this next month or whenever it finished airing,

1847
01:33:50,119 --> 01:33:52,159
and I didn't realize it all came out at once,

1848
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:56,039
and I'm like, oh shit, yeah, I think the binge

1849
01:33:56,079 --> 01:33:56,840
model might have heard it.

1850
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,079
Speaker 2: It's a great show. It's done well for Amazon.

1851
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 4: I think it will probably get a second season, but

1852
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,079
that's just me speculating. I hope they ramp it up

1853
01:34:07,119 --> 01:34:10,199
because and do it week by week like the week

1854
01:34:10,239 --> 01:34:13,279
by week model is is honestly the only way to go, Like.

1855
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,680
Speaker 1: It's back, baby, It's back.

1856
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,640
Speaker 4: Binge it after the show's over, why do you need

1857
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,840
to Yeah, why do you need all eight episodes at once?

1858
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,039
Speaker 2: You can't watch them at once. You still got to

1859
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:24,119
watch a.

1860
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: Piece by piece, Like there was a time for binging.

1861
01:34:27,039 --> 01:34:29,880
But that's like when a lot of those streaming shows

1862
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,319
were like good and when people had money and free time. Yeah,

1863
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:37,600
but then like too many like mediocre or bad shows

1864
01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:39,399
ended up binging. I'm like, I don't feel like sitting

1865
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:41,720
all day watching this. I'll get around to it eventually,

1866
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:44,279
And then a lot of times I don't get around

1867
01:34:44,319 --> 01:34:46,039
to it, I just stop watching altogether.

1868
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:50,039
Speaker 2: Se Yeah, that was a weird choice to make this.

1869
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,279
Uh All at once I thought that was odd, but

1870
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,520
I really really really liked this.

1871
01:34:58,039 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: Uh probably the best live action Spider thing I've seen

1872
01:35:01,239 --> 01:35:03,000
in a lot. I mean, I know we said good

1873
01:35:03,039 --> 01:35:04,960
things about the MCO, but I'm including all the Spider

1874
01:35:05,039 --> 01:35:08,279
Man spinoffs, the Spider Man spinoffs.

1875
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,520
Speaker 4: I would say this even probably ranks above at least

1876
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:13,319
two of the MCU Spider Man movies.

1877
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:14,079
Speaker 3: Probably.

1878
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: I think that Homecoming is probably the best of the three.

1879
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:18,079
Speaker 4: Uh.

1880
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: Look, I liked I liked No Way Home, but it

1881
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,520
is the clunkiest of those, and I think that's because

1882
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:25,720
it was a COVID production.

1883
01:35:26,119 --> 01:35:26,359
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1884
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:30,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool seeing everyone together again. But again

1885
01:35:30,279 --> 01:35:35,239
that was a multiverse mostly for cameos. Like remember these

1886
01:35:35,319 --> 01:35:37,159
guys from the movie. You loved all of them, and

1887
01:35:37,239 --> 01:35:39,039
then people were like, well, not so much. The Andrew

1888
01:35:39,119 --> 01:35:41,520
Garfield guys. We didn't like them at all, and like, yeah,

1889
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:42,000
you love.

1890
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 4: Got that Gwynn Stacy payoff, which was like, you know what,

1891
01:35:46,119 --> 01:35:48,199
This movie made me feel a little better.

1892
01:35:48,119 --> 01:35:51,119
Speaker 2: About at least parts of the amazing Spider Man movies.

1893
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 1: Dude, that was the weirdest thing because Andrew Garfield was

1894
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:57,520
so good in Spider Man No Way Home that people

1895
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,800
started falsely remembering those movies being and they're like, you

1896
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,520
should get a third one, And I went no, I.

1897
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 2: Was like the first one. I never thought it was

1898
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:12,520
amazing or great. It was called amazing, yeah, right, But

1899
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,399
I liked, I know, the lizard didn't have a snout

1900
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,319
and all that stuff. He was a little different, but.

1901
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,279
Speaker 1: He looked like from the Mario movie. He did.

1902
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,479
Speaker 2: But you know, I kind of dug it still. I like, uh,

1903
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,199
I can't remember his name. He's on He's on the

1904
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,279
House of the Dragon.

1905
01:36:27,399 --> 01:36:31,279
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he's got a hard name to pronounce. Been something.

1906
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great actor. And he was very you know,

1907
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:40,039
empathetic or sympathetic as as the lizard. So there was

1908
01:36:40,079 --> 01:36:41,880
a lot of good stuff in that movie.

1909
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 4: But both those movies, like even the second one, the

1910
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:48,199
seconde is pure dog shit except for the Gwynn Stacy stuff,

1911
01:36:48,279 --> 01:36:49,680
the Peter and Gwinn Stacy stuff.

1912
01:36:51,039 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 1: Like the first one is like more of the same.

1913
01:36:55,199 --> 01:36:57,479
It was just like nothing new, and then the second

1914
01:36:57,520 --> 01:36:59,600
one was just garbagecause they were trying to set up

1915
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:03,159
like fifty spinoffs yea, they cut out Mary Jane Watson.

1916
01:37:03,239 --> 01:37:05,560
They had what's her face play? Mary Jane Watson just

1917
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,880
cut out all of her scenes, never to have seen

1918
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:09,399
the light of day.

1919
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:10,680
Speaker 3: But no, this was great.

1920
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them try other uh into the

1921
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:19,119
spider Verse, like crossovers or a spinoffs. Yeah, that'd be cool.

1922
01:37:19,199 --> 01:37:21,359
I'd like to see, uh, would you watch a Peter

1923
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,520
Porker show, the Spider Ham show.

1924
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:25,399
Speaker 2: I would at least try it.

1925
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,079
Speaker 4: I know it'd probably be animated, and I'm not a

1926
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,560
huge fan of animation, but at least try because Peter

1927
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,439
Porker was like when the highlights them.

1928
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,119
Speaker 1: I would like to see the old man Spider Man.

1929
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:39,119
That'd be pretty funny now that he's like a dad

1930
01:37:39,199 --> 01:37:41,840
and stuff. Usually I don't old characters, but I thought

1931
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:42,720
he was funny in it.

1932
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:44,319
Speaker 2: Dad Spider Man.

1933
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1934
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd like to see more crows. It was

1935
01:37:50,119 --> 01:37:51,840
like a cool this is like a cool thing. And again,

1936
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,880
multiverse done right. This is what the multiverse should be

1937
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,479
used for. Hey, let's take a character and like let's

1938
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:02,119
free of cotton, new or what you would expect. Let's

1939
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:04,359
put them in a different environment, change things up and

1940
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,039
explore what that would be like I like those stories,

1941
01:38:08,279 --> 01:38:10,399
and I thought this was a great example of that,

1942
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:14,399
and I hope more things fo Even though superheroes are

1943
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,479
on their way down right now, Willever fully go away.

1944
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:19,119
That's a sad thing. I think like they're trying to

1945
01:38:19,159 --> 01:38:21,880
course correct a lot of things, and there's like some

1946
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:24,880
good superhero stuff now, but most people are just checked out,

1947
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:25,800
like up too late.

1948
01:38:26,279 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: You guys did it.

1949
01:38:27,039 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're back in the era of you gotta do

1950
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,119
the tentpole or yeah, you know it's it's not really

1951
01:38:32,199 --> 01:38:34,000
like if you're not doing like the Big Three in DC,

1952
01:38:34,319 --> 01:38:39,039
no one really cares. Yeah, Like Supergirl looks fine, it

1953
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:42,079
looks like a fun of movie, but no one gives

1954
01:38:42,119 --> 01:38:42,399
a shit.

1955
01:38:43,159 --> 01:38:46,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's cool to see Lobo.

1956
01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:48,880
I like the Supergirl character. Hopefully they do it right.

1957
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,800
I didn't read the book that they're basing off of,

1958
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,840
but yeah, this was Uh, this was a good time,

1959
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,359
Doctor Till, thank you so much for being on the show.

1960
01:38:58,359 --> 01:39:01,359
You know, doctor you know who else you think I

1961
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:02,159
keep for going to do.

1962
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 2: This all our Patreon. I said I was gonna do.

1963
01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:08,359
Speaker 1: This a month ago, and I meant to do it

1964
01:39:08,439 --> 01:39:10,319
on like the last two live things I did, and

1965
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,479
I forgot both times. So thank you to all our patrons.

1966
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,800
There's all your beautiful names right there.

1967
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:18,399
Speaker 2: I'm in there somewhere.

1968
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:20,079
Speaker 1: You're in there somewhere.

1969
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 4: I had to like when you did the back Rooms

1970
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:26,479
watch along, I was like, all right, I've been on

1971
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,359
like the low tier for like a couple of months.

1972
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:30,439
I gotta I gotta at wayst get jump up to

1973
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:31,039
the eye tier.

1974
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Watch the back rooms videos with them. It was a

1975
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,319
good movie. It was good. It was good.

1976
01:39:37,319 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 1: It was good. Uh, but yeah, guys, get your super

1977
01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,840
chats in please. We only got three till I thought.

1978
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,359
I thought that you were gonna bring that ministry up.

1979
01:39:46,359 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 2: I try, I tried. I threatened them. I told them

1980
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,600
if they didn't show up, I would fire all of

1981
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:52,560
them as my audience.

1982
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: And uh, do you think they were watching the beginning

1983
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:57,560
and they assumed you died the first time?

1984
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:02,279
Speaker 4: You probably probably they always just am I die every time?

1985
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,359
Like I always come back. Guys, I never died. I

1986
01:40:05,399 --> 01:40:07,000
don't have any evidence that I will.

1987
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,399
Speaker 1: So far, let's let's talk to some patrons.

1988
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:18,439
Speaker 2: Uh, Corbin, Hello, Hardy's the only one, Uh whiped cream.

1989
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: Willie is walking in circles. We'll get together in the second.

1990
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,520
Did you watch Spider Noir?

1991
01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 7: I loved it.

1992
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 8: I'm a I'd say Nicholas Cage is probably my favorite actor,

1993
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:36,960
unashamedly mm hmm. Even in the worst movie, he's still

1994
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:39,920
you know, giving it as all no matter what. And

1995
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,800
I think this seemed like the first thing in a

1996
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:47,239
while that he really wanted to do, Like just it

1997
01:40:47,399 --> 01:40:50,319
sounds crazy on paper, but it's you know, Nick Cage

1998
01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:54,560
doing a Humphrey Boguart impression as a alcoholic Spider Man,

1999
01:40:55,239 --> 01:40:55,720
and it's like.

2000
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 7: You hear that on paper and it's like, no, that

2001
01:40:59,239 --> 01:41:01,680
that shouldn't work, but it does. It works so good.

2002
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 8: I love the fight scenes too and stuff. You can

2003
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:08,439
tell that kind of the same with what they've been

2004
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,680
doing with Batman lately. They definitely played the games, like

2005
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,800
the bar scene where he's webbing them up to the

2006
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:15,640
walls and he's.

2007
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: Like that.

2008
01:41:18,319 --> 01:41:19,359
Speaker 7: That part got me going.

2009
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 1: That was no way home.

2010
01:41:22,119 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 2: Literally took some of the fight moves from the Spider

2011
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,880
Man game. Uh. I think when he like jumps up

2012
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:32,279
the air webs and the yeah yeah, so yeah, they're

2013
01:41:32,279 --> 01:41:32,920
definitely doing that.

2014
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:36,279
Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for Batman to drop down from a

2015
01:41:36,359 --> 01:41:38,399
cargole and string someone up by one of his.

2016
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:41,079
Speaker 2: Cables and fly away. Dude, that's all I did. In

2017
01:41:41,239 --> 01:41:42,199
the Arkham Games was like.

2018
01:41:44,079 --> 01:41:44,520
Speaker 3: Flyaway.

2019
01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, they kind of do that a little bit.

2020
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 8: There's like one snippet in BVS where an AFFLECKX getting

2021
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:55,159
the Kryptonite that was loop down and you see the

2022
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:57,840
glowing white eyes and he swoops back up, And that.

2023
01:41:58,119 --> 01:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Was only in the director's cut off, so I don't

2024
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:02,119
even think that was in the theatrical cut.

2025
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,359
Speaker 8: The main thing Zack Snyder didn't feel the need to

2026
01:42:05,399 --> 01:42:06,920
put in slow motion for some reason.

2027
01:42:09,359 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 2: All Batman, this Batman stuff got back to my my

2028
01:42:13,079 --> 01:42:15,000
weird uh leute war.

2029
01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,359
Speaker 7: Oh my god, oh my god.

2030
01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I think got the Snyder versus dead.

2031
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,159
Speaker 2: We don't want the Snighter verse, we want the Spider

2032
01:42:23,359 --> 01:42:24,159
Noir verse.

2033
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:26,079
Speaker 7: We want more more of this.

2034
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,239
Speaker 8: Like I said, as a big Nicholas Cage fan, this

2035
01:42:29,399 --> 01:42:32,479
was awesome, and then as a Spider Man fan also like, yeah,

2036
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,159
I had a blast with this.

2037
01:42:34,319 --> 01:42:36,520
Speaker 7: I watched it twice. I watched it in black and

2038
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:38,680
white and I watched it in Dick crazy vision.

2039
01:42:39,239 --> 01:42:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2040
01:42:40,119 --> 01:42:42,039
Speaker 1: I think I am gonna put it back on again.

2041
01:42:42,119 --> 01:42:44,560
Speaker 2: Like when I'm like doing other stuff and just glance

2042
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:47,640
up at it when it's in color, not to spoil it.

2043
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:50,159
Speaker 8: And I may have missed it in dialogue, but there

2044
01:42:50,359 --> 01:42:54,680
is one detail in the last episode that from what

2045
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:56,720
I could tell, maybe, like I said, maybe I missed

2046
01:42:56,720 --> 01:43:00,680
a dialogue piece, but the color actually he adds a

2047
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:04,439
story detail that isn't in the black and white because

2048
01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:06,560
it's just you know, it's like you see it in

2049
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:10,600
color and you go, oh, okay, like it was the

2050
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:12,199
other of the color from earlier.

2051
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:13,720
Speaker 2: Tell us what it was.

2052
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,199
Speaker 3: We just talked about the whole show.

2053
01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,039
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, Robbie.

2054
01:43:16,279 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 8: Robbie wears like a really flamboyant like orange peach suit. Okay,

2055
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,680
and then in the last episode when Ben goes to

2056
01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:29,239
Robbie's apartment and he dresses up in one of Robbie's

2057
01:43:29,239 --> 01:43:31,640
suits while his suit's.

2058
01:43:31,319 --> 01:43:35,560
Speaker 7: Being whatever, and that's why Robbie shows up in the full.

2059
01:43:36,039 --> 01:43:39,359
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I never remember that.

2060
01:43:40,199 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to watch that in color

2061
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,439
then yeah.

2062
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I, like I said, I might have missed the dialogue,

2063
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,319
but yeah, when I watched it in color, I was like, oh, cool,

2064
01:43:48,359 --> 01:43:49,479
he's wearing Robbie's suit.

2065
01:43:50,359 --> 01:43:52,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it just shows how how much detail

2066
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,640
they put in this show. It's it's a stupid Spider

2067
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:58,159
Man gangster show, and they've put way more effort into

2068
01:43:58,239 --> 01:44:01,880
this than half these motherfucker is doing anything insane.

2069
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:06,039
Speaker 10: It felt like if they had somehow they had the

2070
01:44:06,119 --> 01:44:08,960
effects that they have today back in the day, like

2071
01:44:09,079 --> 01:44:14,319
it legitimately fell true to the era, and I was so.

2072
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:15,159
Speaker 2: Pleased with that.

2073
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2074
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,560
Speaker 2: Actually I talked to him. One thing that gets me

2075
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:20,720
excited for The New Spider Man.

2076
01:44:20,760 --> 01:44:24,079
Speaker 1: I talked about this recently, so I heard like a

2077
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:26,199
year ago it was directed by the guy did Shang

2078
01:44:26,319 --> 01:44:28,399
Chi and I went, oh, no, that movie was garbage.

2079
01:44:29,079 --> 01:44:33,760
The New Spider Man. However, that same guy did Marvel's

2080
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,880
Wonderman show that came out a few months ago and

2081
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:36,399
wonder Man.

2082
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:38,680
Speaker 7: I haven't watched it yet, but listen. The reason why

2083
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,079
is because I heard Josh Gadd was.

2084
01:44:40,079 --> 01:44:44,520
Speaker 1: In it, and I said, no, I hate Josh Gadd too,

2085
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,399
but they made him very unlikable. Wonder Man was great,

2086
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,800
and I'm like, oh, they must have gave him like actually,

2087
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:55,239
like creative freedom. They must have. I don't know what

2088
01:44:55,359 --> 01:44:57,600
they did during shang Chi, but that was Shrake garbage

2089
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,600
and Wonderman's like one of the best Marvel things do

2090
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:02,199
in a word. So I'm like, oh, maybe they're trusting

2091
01:45:02,319 --> 01:45:05,399
directors again, something they should have done for a while.

2092
01:45:06,359 --> 01:45:06,640
Speaker 7: So that.

2093
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:10,159
Speaker 2: What was that wild approach?

2094
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that they don't still want to like just

2095
01:45:13,279 --> 01:45:16,279
piece movies together and not have a script going. And

2096
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,319
I think they said, like, uh, Tom Holland worked on

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01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:21,720
The Odyssey and he was like calling Sony He's.

2098
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,319
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I was just on like a real movie.

2099
01:45:23,399 --> 01:45:24,840
Could we actually have like a script?

2100
01:45:24,920 --> 01:45:30,399
Speaker 1: And God, that's yeah, yeah, I just saw how like

2101
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:33,119
Christopher Nolan makes movies, what the fuck are we doing?

2102
01:45:33,359 --> 01:45:35,479
Like Eve though the movies are fine, it's like, how

2103
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:37,760
about we have like an idea, we commit to something

2104
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:38,359
ahead of time.

2105
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:42,560
Speaker 8: Strange strangely enough, That's exactly why I'm so excited about Playface.

2106
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:46,399
Like I feel hypocritical because I hated the Sony Cinematic

2107
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,239
Spider Man Universe without Spider Man, so I'm like, I

2108
01:45:49,319 --> 01:45:52,399
don't really want a Batman villain without a Batman movie.

2109
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:55,359
But the fact that they weren't even gonna make that

2110
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:58,319
movie until you know, the idea got brought to them

2111
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:03,159
and it was like, you know, I'm blanking and it's

2112
01:46:03,279 --> 01:46:04,399
it's a very good director.

2113
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:06,239
Speaker 7: I don't know why I'm blanking right now.

2114
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, he's yea Mike planning is like developing the story.

2115
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,359
I don't think he's directing. I think someone.

2116
01:46:11,159 --> 01:46:12,319
Speaker 2: Which is fine.

2117
01:46:12,359 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 7: But I mean that's that's good. That's I will say exactly.

2118
01:46:16,039 --> 01:46:18,840
He came to James Gunn and the Saffron with with

2119
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,000
the I want to make.

2120
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,159
Speaker 8: This, you know, and.

2121
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I uh, I didn't really care about Joker twenty nineteen,

2122
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:29,960
but it made a billion dollars.

2123
01:46:30,039 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 3: People loved it.

2124
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 8: Uh.

2125
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:34,039
Speaker 1: And the Penguin spinoff was really really good.

2126
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 3: So I think they have like a better I huh,

2127
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:37,800
I said it was so good.

2128
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:38,359
Speaker 2: I was just good.

2129
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 3: I feel like they have a.

2130
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:41,880
Speaker 1: Better idea of how to do like a spin off

2131
01:46:42,039 --> 01:46:45,760
of a character, a little bit better than Sony. Sony

2132
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,279
was like, what if all these bad guys were actually

2133
01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:51,560
the good guys. I'm like, all right, well, it's got

2134
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:52,720
to be a little bit more than that.

2135
01:46:53,560 --> 01:46:54,239
Speaker 2: I really hope.

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01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 8: I think like, I feel like it's so hard to

2137
01:46:57,760 --> 01:46:59,439
make a punisher thing like I feel like I heard

2138
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,319
Gill say it, because it's like either have to redeem

2139
01:47:01,399 --> 01:47:02,239
the character, you have.

2140
01:47:02,359 --> 01:47:05,560
Speaker 7: To you know, kill him, Like those are you, like

2141
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:06,319
your two options.

2142
01:47:06,359 --> 01:47:09,039
Speaker 8: I think there's a third option you make like a

2143
01:47:09,399 --> 01:47:13,199
like a misleading slasher movie, and then Punishers is the

2144
01:47:13,279 --> 01:47:14,760
villain and you just have fun with it.

2145
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:15,520
Speaker 7: You just let him.

2146
01:47:15,920 --> 01:47:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool, like a horror movie from

2147
01:47:19,359 --> 01:47:21,960
the bad guy's point of view of like the Punisher

2148
01:47:22,039 --> 01:47:22,600
coming after.

2149
01:47:26,399 --> 01:47:28,199
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I think that's how you do a Punisher

2150
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,720
lead movie from now on, Like that's the only way

2151
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,720
to do it without yeah, like just ending it.

2152
01:47:34,119 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 4: I hope for the clay Face movie like after shoot,

2153
01:47:37,079 --> 01:47:39,239
like I hope they shot like because there's gonna be

2154
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:43,720
references to the James Gunn universe apparently like a.

2155
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:46,359
Speaker 2: Like a couple because it's supposed to be in that universe.

2156
01:47:47,079 --> 01:47:50,359
I hope all those scenes they filled alternate versions where

2157
01:47:50,359 --> 01:47:53,000
instead of the James Gunn universe, it's in the Batman universe.

2158
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:57,399
Speaker 1: I heard there was his logo on the um that

2159
01:47:57,680 --> 01:48:00,560
was James gun addressed that. He said, like that shouldn't

2160
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,359
have been there. That was like an accident or something.

2161
01:48:06,079 --> 01:48:11,279
Speaker 4: Multi million dollars sets accidents. It's something you can easily remove.

2162
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,520
But anyway, Corbyn, thank you for coming on. Thank you

2163
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,840
for sharing your opinion. Thank you for being one of

2164
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:24,039
our many, many patrons. There there you are, right there.

2165
01:48:26,039 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: Whip Cream Willie was walking around the back rooms and

2166
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:29,279
then I think he died.

2167
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:30,640
Speaker 3: So we're gonna let you go.

2168
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:34,760
Speaker 1: Corbyn, oh the pirate guy, so we'll see him. Maybe

2169
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:38,039
whip Cream Willy will come back. We got some super

2170
01:48:38,159 --> 01:48:40,479
jazz actually on Twitch for the first time in a while.

2171
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,680
We got some We got one hundred bits uh and

2172
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,680
it's from power Zim eighty five and they said my

2173
01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:52,720
cat Big Tuna, and I say hello, hello, Big Tuna

2174
01:48:53,239 --> 01:49:01,640
and Grimlock for four nine. I'll get the ball rolling.

2175
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,039
Here you go, Bud free money.

2176
01:49:03,079 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 2: Thank you. That was to get my.

2177
01:49:04,079 --> 01:49:11,119
Speaker 1: Mask off the All Apologies podcast. Trucker, Andy, can you

2178
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:13,560
switch to color? I prefer that, you know what, since

2179
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,439
we're at the end of the showflet's.

2180
01:49:15,319 --> 01:49:17,520
Speaker 2: I think I can do that too. Put my prison

2181
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:18,000
back out.

2182
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. Pop, I'm gonna make

2183
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:25,880
the colors pop even more. There we go, Oh wow,

2184
01:49:26,039 --> 01:49:29,079
I'm way more colorful than usual. This actually looks pretty good.

2185
01:49:29,239 --> 01:49:30,319
I should do this more often.

2186
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:31,520
Speaker 2: There we go.

2187
01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 1: We're popping, guys, We're popping uh, and then mister d

2188
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:36,760
ball money for two dollars?

2189
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 3: Ask, where's Kyle Brazil?

2190
01:49:42,159 --> 01:49:42,600
Speaker 1: Don't do.

2191
01:49:44,279 --> 01:49:46,640
Speaker 2: Kyle on this show?

2192
01:49:47,079 --> 01:49:53,039
Speaker 1: To take really long time to say English sentence? You

2193
01:49:53,159 --> 01:49:53,760
know what I mean?

2194
01:49:56,119 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 2: Why does it sound Japanese? You know I can't do Brazilian?

2195
01:50:00,079 --> 01:50:05,800
So you were like Kyle's massade.

2196
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:17,520
Speaker 11: I like Kyle, but sometimes I'm like finished to say, uh,

2197
01:50:19,039 --> 01:50:22,600
is that all the superst man until your band from

2198
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,000
the show that was wait?

2199
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry, I'm totally I'm totally forgetting.

2200
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:29,520
I'm forgetting about the Rumble chat.

2201
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm so stupid.

2202
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 1: Let's pop out the Rumble chat. I'm sure how many

2203
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:34,640
Rumble rants do.

2204
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:35,279
Speaker 2: You think we got?

2205
01:50:35,359 --> 01:50:36,159
Speaker 1: Doctor till.

2206
01:50:37,439 --> 01:50:42,159
Speaker 2: Like two? What ye of little faith?

2207
01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,199
Speaker 1: Let's see, I got the chat here for Rumble and

2208
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:54,760
not one single comment at all, one person watching and

2209
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:57,680
that is me watching right now.

2210
01:50:59,319 --> 01:51:01,359
Speaker 2: You know, one way could you get up your Rumble

2211
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:04,880
presence is when you do your commentary tapings. Do it

2212
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,399
like a premium string or like only people who are

2213
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:09,640
subscribers or have Rumble premium.

2214
01:51:09,399 --> 01:51:13,399
Speaker 1: Can watch un till they don't have Rumble Premium. They don't,

2215
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:19,000
I do, I will. I was like a Rumble partner

2216
01:51:19,079 --> 01:51:20,800
for like a second, but I didn't realize they like

2217
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:24,359
want you to stream constantly to stay in that program.

2218
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 2: Oh dude, they actually pay really well.

2219
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I couldn't get anyone to watch our Rubble.

2220
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:34,720
We were doing the thing where I'm like, guys, I

2221
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,199
need ten viewers so I can do a commercial for like,

2222
01:51:38,319 --> 01:51:41,760
I don't know, Liberty Coffee or some bullshit about that.

2223
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,399
Speaker 4: Rumble does this thing called creator program to where as

2224
01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:46,560
long as you hit the metrics doesn't matter.

2225
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Really, I don't have time to stream as much as

2226
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:51,880
they want. I'm like, but I'm uploading videos all the time.

2227
01:51:52,039 --> 01:51:52,680
Is I not count them?

2228
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:53,119
Speaker 2: Nope?

2229
01:51:53,359 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: They only want live streamers, political live streamers. It's one

2230
01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,399
of those like if you don't have an audience following you,

2231
01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:04,680
it's a waste of time. So Rumble is basically a

2232
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,840
hard drive for me where I store episode in case

2233
01:52:08,079 --> 01:52:08,600
they get.

2234
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 2: Taken off YouTube.

2235
01:52:11,159 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 3: Rumble dot coms like.

2236
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Doctor till now while I wait for fifteen other super

2237
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:21,960
chats to come in, I'm sure they're on their way.

2238
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,359
Tell us again where we can find you and what

2239
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,079
you'll be talking about this week? That does bob Ethan

2240
01:52:28,199 --> 01:52:28,840
Ralph or Scott.

2241
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:33,359
Speaker 2: Oh god, the minister dude is just a it's a

2242
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,119
it's a low cow. You know.

2243
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 4: We we find funny things and funny people internet to

2244
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,359
make fun of and make fun of each other, a

2245
01:52:40,399 --> 01:52:41,079
lot of arguing.

2246
01:52:41,159 --> 01:52:41,720
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.

2247
01:52:42,399 --> 01:52:45,640
Speaker 4: And then Burnt Popcorn, which is the movie podcast I

2248
01:52:45,720 --> 01:52:49,000
do with Kid of the North and simper reloaded on

2249
01:52:49,079 --> 01:52:51,159
the Burn Popcorn channel.

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01:52:52,359 --> 01:52:54,239
Speaker 2: In a Backrooms episode, I believe.

2251
01:52:54,359 --> 01:52:58,359
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, So this last Backrooms episode, I literally had

2252
01:52:58,359 --> 01:53:02,119
a tornado forming over me the entire time, and it

2253
01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,800
was such a prevalent thing in the episode. It actually

2254
01:53:04,880 --> 01:53:09,279
made the edit and we watched a weatherman's studio burned down.

2255
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,119
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome.

2256
01:53:12,399 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay.

2257
01:53:13,319 --> 01:53:16,159
Speaker 1: One other question you were telling me Widow's Bay. Should

2258
01:53:16,159 --> 01:53:16,840
I be watching that?

2259
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,279
Speaker 2: Yes, you should be watching. Everybody should be watching Widows.

2260
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:23,039
Speaker 1: Bay, and from it from like four seasons and now

2261
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:24,680
right from is.

2262
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 4: Worth it it's next season's the final season and that'll

2263
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:30,239
be like a year and a half, two years, so

2264
01:53:30,279 --> 01:53:31,279
you got plenty of time.

2265
01:53:31,640 --> 01:53:34,239
Speaker 3: From all right, it's a Harold Perow.

2266
01:53:34,039 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 4: New Yes, it it's done by some of the guys

2267
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:42,279
that worked on Loss, but these guys swear to God,

2268
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:44,479
they swear to God that they.

2269
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:50,119
Speaker 2: They have like a real ending in mind.

2270
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,319
Speaker 4: And so it's one of those things where I'm like,

2271
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,880
all right, we'll see, but so far it's been really

2272
01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:01,880
fucking good, dude, and it's it's one of those shows

2273
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:07,279
that like it's half horror, half mystery and then like

2274
01:54:08,039 --> 01:54:09,359
all fucking with your head.

2275
01:54:10,159 --> 01:54:13,159
Speaker 1: I keep confusing that show with that show Evil that

2276
01:54:13,359 --> 01:54:16,159
ran for a few seasons, which I think is on

2277
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:16,920
Paramount Plus.

2278
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:17,560
Speaker 2: Did that end?

2279
01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:18,880
Speaker 1: That looks like it ended?

2280
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:22,640
Speaker 2: But did it? Was it canceled or did it get

2281
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:23,560
like an actual ending?

2282
01:54:23,760 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll see. Oh, we got two more super chats. Who

2283
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:27,760
could they be from?

2284
01:54:28,319 --> 01:54:28,439
Speaker 2: Well?

2285
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:32,279
Speaker 1: What is aj Whizzle for? Four ninety nine looney Tunes dollars?

2286
01:54:32,359 --> 01:54:35,960
He's got that communist money from the UK? Tony, you

2287
01:54:36,079 --> 01:54:38,920
are the Tucker Carlson of movie reviewers?

2288
01:54:43,239 --> 01:54:45,680
Speaker 2: Did you ever see Aj Whizzles.

2289
01:54:48,039 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 1: Hit piece? He's like Qan on edit of my show.

2290
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,800
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I need to see that sounds awesome.

2291
01:54:55,039 --> 01:54:56,199
Speaker 1: You know what, I might still have it.

2292
01:54:57,399 --> 01:54:58,359
Speaker 3: I might still have it.

2293
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Hold only look for that. I was fucking dying when

2294
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,479
he said so. From a couple of years ago, Uh,

2295
01:55:08,119 --> 01:55:14,840
where do I give me one second? I know it's

2296
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:17,239
it's hack spelled h a Q. I found it.

2297
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:23,479
Speaker 2: Testfold Neckbeard on YouTube. You're a monster, Tony.

2298
01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 1: But people think don't know why he used my proper

2299
01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:27,359
Christian name, But.

2300
01:55:29,239 --> 01:55:32,279
Speaker 2: Tony from the movies, he's an alpha. Is an alpha

2301
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,840
lore girls.

2302
01:55:33,479 --> 01:55:36,239
Speaker 1: With my internet Andrew Tainer movie reviews.

2303
01:55:36,399 --> 01:55:37,439
Speaker 3: You're disgusting.

2304
01:55:39,079 --> 01:55:44,359
Speaker 1: Tony like a right wing YouTuber, the douchebag, you know,

2305
01:55:44,479 --> 01:55:47,119
movie critic, anti woke, go woke, go broke.

2306
01:55:47,039 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 2: Raminism, blah blah blah blah blah.

2307
01:55:49,159 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 1: I saw a woman using a computer and I went, oh, no,

2308
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,119
that was me with Jordan Peterson.

2309
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 3: Don't you remember that famous.

2310
01:55:56,760 --> 01:55:57,239
Speaker 1: Feminist.

2311
01:55:57,279 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 4: Probably you're the you anoun of movies. Does that mean

2312
01:56:01,600 --> 01:56:03,359
you were also made up by Jeffrey Epstein?

2313
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:04,399
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

2314
01:56:04,920 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: JK Rowling terrible novelist, great tweets, and I agree with

2315
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:16,520
every one of them. Tony, what's the new thing?

2316
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 2: I forget like a lot of like of the context

2317
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:21,279
of these clons.

2318
01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:24,079
Speaker 3: That's why Kyle Rittenhouse is the new thing.

2319
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got some comments that you were

2320
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:29,960
some kind of supremacist. You were qing on or just

2321
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:32,720
to support this virus was designed in a lab and

2322
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:33,800
it got out of hand.

2323
01:56:33,920 --> 01:56:36,159
Speaker 2: That was Blaye too. I was talking about Blade too

2324
01:56:39,279 --> 01:56:42,279
is the reaper virus from Blate and I gotta I

2325
01:56:42,319 --> 01:56:43,560
gotta give a shout out real quick.

2326
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:48,079
Speaker 4: Tony Royce and Pesse are the only reason why I

2327
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:51,199
know who you are from several years ago.

2328
01:56:51,239 --> 01:56:53,279
Speaker 2: I've actually been a fan of yours for you know,

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three or four years now.

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Speaker 3: We're in a cinematacre.

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Speaker 2: Dude, No, I never watched some massir.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 4: I I learned who you are because you were on

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day Wave Nice back during the COVID era.

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Speaker 2: I watched day Wave like every day. Then I made

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the mistake show.

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Speaker 1: I talk about the election results. I mean, we're seeing

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the results of Johanna's voting.

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Speaker 2: They're very violent. I think he's doing a nice job.

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Is he still got the show gone? He added active

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So im out there dresses a Nazi like dancing. Yeah,

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but Nazis are like kind of Tony Louso. Tonight one of.

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Speaker 3: The funniest things.

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01:57:54,359 --> 01:57:56,359
Speaker 1: I watched that was fresh in my head because I

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was I was scrolling for something else. I scrolled past

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like mad, I gotta watch that video. God, that's so great.

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Oh well, doctor Till we got a ten dollar chat.

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Speaker 2: From that's a poster. That's not me. I don't have money,

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look at me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, no problem.

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01:58:13,279 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 2: I only got a nickel to my name.

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Speaker 3: See uh oh, here we go Burt Popcorn Podcast.

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01:58:21,279 --> 01:58:27,239
Speaker 2: Definitely thanks Ken, Thanks will do.

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Speaker 1: I will band till forf We gotta come up.

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Speaker 2: With something for you.

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Speaker 4: Have you on the show sometime, Tony, which is a

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lot more a malleable to your schedule because we we

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pre record, we don't.

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Speaker 2: We don't do live think.

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Speaker 1: I think tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of other shows that I'm on, I believe tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Or the day after. I will be back on Dissect

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that film we talked about Guyver too dark hero.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, that's that's a deep cut.

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Speaker 1: I went back actually a few years back. We did

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Guiver one together, but I loved Guiver two because I

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haven't seen in a very long time. June twelfth, it'll

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come out June twelfth. You ever have a thing where

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you rewatch, You watch a movie and you go, oh

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01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,199
my god, I remembered a part of this movie and

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01:59:14,279 --> 01:59:16,279
I could never remember its name. And it's been haunting

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me for years.

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Speaker 3: You ever have that, Yeah, Pummetmaster for me, Okay, Guy Verto.

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Speaker 1: There's a moment where they're trying to open a door

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01:59:25,399 --> 01:59:28,239
and they keep showing the back of the main character's

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01:59:28,359 --> 01:59:32,520
neck like throbbing because he's like a mutant dude. And

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for whatever reason, I've always remembered that scene. I saw

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01:59:35,239 --> 01:59:36,840
that scene as a kid and I never knew what

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the movie was and I wasn't watching. I'm like, this

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is it. I'm like, thirty something years I thought I

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made up a movie in my.

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Speaker 2: Head, and I'm like, this is.

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01:59:47,479 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: So Cohen watch Guiver two Dark hero On dissect that film,

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subscribe to the Burnt Popcorn podcast and Doctor Chill Ministry

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of Dude.

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Speaker 2: Hell y am, we just dropped that grooms today.

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Speaker 1: Oo go watch it now. And uh yeah, that is

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it from us everyone, Thank you for watching this live episode.

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Sorry for the technical issues on both of our right,

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I'm glad it was both of us.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad it was both of us. So even it

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was Mega Watch. He was trying to get view on

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the show.

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Speaker 3: We didn't respect the Spider.

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Speaker 2: Don't you see that The Spider is.

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Speaker 1: Hey, till, can I tell you something about myself. Sure

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I could eat a peach for hours.

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Speaker 2: Jesus fun that is doesn't the most creepy and like

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was like fucking alpha line.

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Speaker 1: Ever Wait wait, wait, we can't leave yet because someone

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said someone went on twitch to say read your rumble donus.

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Speaker 3: So someone on twitch.

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Speaker 2: A rumble rant. Yeah, is so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Fat kech Boy for one dollars, Till's Godzilla movie collection

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is greater than Tony's thanks to me.

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Speaker 2: Fat keck Boy is the dude. I've got it. Sorry,

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that's my tamourine. I've got this motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, I have that right behind me.

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Speaker 2: Real quick.

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Speaker 1: Did you get that recently?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 2: A few months back? Now?

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Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, I'm gonna do you a favor.

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Speaker 2: I've already done it. I've already done it. You know

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02:01:34,960 --> 02:01:36,840
about the Blu Ray disc, then hold on, I'll be

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02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:38,640
right back. I'm gonna go grab it because I have

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the sleeve from the artist who did the artwork. I

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don't have the sleeve, but I got the pack.

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Speaker 1: But you go grab it.

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02:01:45,640 --> 02:01:48,199
Speaker 3: Go grab it because I always have to tell people

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about this.

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02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:52,159
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna get the Criterion, show a Godzilla

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02:01:52,359 --> 02:01:56,119
Blu Ray coffee table book thing. You gotta take the

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discs out. The glue only lasts for like a year,

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02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,880
and the discs will fall into the case and the

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02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:05,479
glue will get on them. It was a big thing

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when it happened, and everyone had to go order. As

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you're about to see, they had to order an eight

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02:02:12,359 --> 02:02:13,720
disc Blu ray case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I got I got a second one.

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Speaker 10: Just sit.

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Speaker 2: Let check this out. This is the front. Oh yeah,

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and then on the back. You could pay ten dollars

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extra to have it signed, but he just signed anyways.

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Speaker 1: Nice, So yeah, I've got ten dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's not bad for like that goes great on your shelf.

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It's perfect. Yeah. But yeah it's the whole Show era

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thing on the spine.

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Speaker 3: M M.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, please do that if you get that. Like

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I remember, Kaylee got it. A few of my friends

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02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:46,960
got it, and right away I'm like, get the case.

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02:02:47,479 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you were the one who told me to.

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02:02:49,079 --> 02:02:50,800
I was like, you know what's yeah, I didn't think

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02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:53,039
about that. So so many Guyszilla people bought it right

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02:02:53,079 --> 02:02:56,399
away like me. And then a year later it hit

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Twitter and like I remember, I like shared it and

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02:02:59,079 --> 02:03:01,119
tweeted about it and Shoe for movie.

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Speaker 1: Dumpster saw my tweet and went and bought like a

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02:03:03,399 --> 02:03:06,319
thing right away. It was like the whole thing. But anyway,

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that is it from us everyone. We're gonna officially end

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the show now, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I didn't ye

