Speaker 1: Hello everyone, we're here today with another exciting live episode.
I'm a the Spider Hack Noir. I don't I couldn't
think of a good one. I'm sorry, guys, I could
not think of a good name, and also, like them,
I can't see very well. Uh so, yeah, I have
a I have a goal right now in the chat.
Please pay for the goal and if we make enough money,
I will take the mask off.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yes, today we're talking about Spider Noir.
Speaker 1: And joining us for the first time is Doctor Till
from the Ministry of Dude.
Speaker 3: Hello, Doctor, I can't hear you.
Speaker 2: Hey don't.
Speaker 1: You had a whole funny bit and the microphone screwed you.
Speaker 2: Then, well, I muted because I was cough.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if you can hear
me or not, So I'm gonna like off myself to
higher plane quietly and.
Speaker 2: Doesn't.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's very funny. He did an old timey voice.
I'm trying to do it. I'm trying to do Nicholas
Cage voice, but I'm not very good.
Speaker 5: Hey, bit, you're the best part of the whole thing.
He goes, God, fuck, why sad he doesn't.
Speaker 2: Stupid face only Nicholas Cage. Do oh god, I don't.
I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't care if Francis for Coppola makes a billion
more bad movies.
Speaker 2: Nicholas Cage is a gift to the world.
Speaker 1: And that's right, Nicholas Coppola. Don't dead name him doctor
doctor Till.
Speaker 2: Can you just in it?
Speaker 1: Properly introduce yourself? Properly introduce yourself right now.
Speaker 2: Hello, I am doctor Till.
Speaker 4: I am the proprietor of the ministry or dude. We
reg go to low Cows and it eats of all
sorts and ilk and also one third of the podcast
Burnt Popcorn, where we mainly.
Speaker 2: Argue and about you know, movies and stuff.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 1: Doctor Till has been a longtime fan who I have
ignored for years then finally started watching his show like
a year ago, and I'm like, I, net, we have
that guy on it.
Speaker 4: Don't worry, Tony. I was totally on your side ignoring me.
I wish I could ignore me as well.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh Spider Noir, I this is really fucking annoyed.
Speaker 2: This mass good damn did we hit the goal yet?
Can you see the goal?
Speaker 4: I see no golige of any kind yet. Okay, see
a couple of a couple of my folks in the
jackey guys.
Speaker 2: How's it going?
Speaker 3: By the way, the name of the game is Super Chats.
Speaker 1: Please leave us sooner for a chat if you want
us to whisper sweet, nothing's into your ear or.
Speaker 2: Say things within reason.
Speaker 1: Okay, Please don't talk about the outcome of any trial
that happened recently. We will not address it, no matter
how much you pay. Yeah, that's the one I was
referring to.
Speaker 2: Are causing riots out there?
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you if you click the goal, and
if we make the goal, which I think is like
thirty dollars or something, I will take the mask off.
Although I'll probably take it off at some point because
I could naze you. Like my goggles.
Speaker 2: You look cool. I like that picture you posted. I
think it was a Twitter and you too.
Speaker 4: I was like, all right, all right, he's already going
way harder than I have the ability to do.
Speaker 6: I've got like a vest and a stupid hat. It
occurred to me that I have most of the suit.
I just needed a black mask and the goggles. Look,
it's got two settings or three cents is normal flashing?
Speaker 2: And then blinking.
Speaker 4: You need to just cover one eye and then like
go up to a girl and be like, hey, hey,
I wink.
Speaker 1: At her, I should wear I should wear this out tonight.
Oh my god, I cannot see. This is so bury.
Speaker 3: There's no fucking away. I'm gonna be able to read
the blots.
Speaker 2: How does he do it? How does Nick Cage do it?
He was doing all the How does Nicholas Cage two? Okay,
I got I gotta ask you this at the top
before we get into the synopsis and stuff.
Speaker 4: What is your favorite Nick Cage movie? Because I have
I have like a one that I love this movie.
Both my co hosts and Burn Popcorn hate it to
high hell. So what was your favorite uh Nicolas Cage movie?
Speaker 2: Ship? Is it face Off? It might be face off?
Speaker 1: That's a good one, as good ones. What's your four
job move?
Speaker 2: Got shitty?
Speaker 4: I just love I love all his like recent like
after like the twenty tens, when he just started doing
like every movie that came. Yeah you've seen Mandy, Yes,
Mandy was great.
Speaker 3: That was like my favorite movie of like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: I think, dude, that that has to be my favorite
Nick Cage movie. Is completely unhinged. Yeah, Mandy is incredible
to be hit the goal yet Jesus Christ, not yet.
And anyway, I noticed the Boys stole the ending from Mandy.
I was like, lame, uh, I didn't watch the Boys.
Speaker 1: We've been over this many times because Amazon hambled the
tick and I will never forgive them. But before we
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Speaker 2: Right yep.
Speaker 4: They're all children though, so they're not allowed in near electronics,
so they'll just have to wait until they.
Speaker 1: Eighteen years from now. But we got some great stuff there.
We have a commentary tracks. We did a commentary track
for every live action Mortal Kombat, I mean the one
for the newest one, which, by the way, the story
writer for Mortal Kombat twenty twenty one, was.
Speaker 2: The showrunner for Spider Noir. Oh really, I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Well. He got credited his story of Mortal Kombat twenty
twenty one, but I think it's because he worked on
Mortal Kombat Legacy and twenty twenty one the beginning of
that movie. It's just straight up that one sub zero
Legacy episode I see.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: How involved he was with that movie, but I did
like Mortal Kombat Legacy. But yeah, he's the show runner
for a Spider Noir. We have a commentary track for
Masters of the Universe nineteen eighty seven with Kevin from
peg Warmers.
Speaker 4: Nips are Unbalanced. That's really strange. One goes like this,
and one goes like this.
Speaker 1: I know what a fucking beta male Dolph Lungern is.
We also have two bonus reviews we did recently, must
Russell Bowlkeay's Tail of the Bummy with Cecil from Good
Bad Flicks and Dolly with Test Givnih Dolly is great,
doctor till he totally.
Speaker 2: That looks like everything I would not want.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see a movie where Sean William
Scott's jaw is hanging off the whole time.
Speaker 4: Okay, that actually does sound better. That sounds better than
whatever I'm looking at here.
Speaker 1: Also, the most people the most people ever hit with
a shovel in a movie. I don't know if that's
actually a metric, but I did a compilation of how
many people got hit with a shovel and it goes
on for a long time. So yeah, that's all on Patreon. Now,
please go to the retro lay store. If we weren't
in character, I'm pretty sure Doctor Till will be wearing
all of my merch right now. Uh, and booked me
on Cameo, please, Doctor Till. You've booked me on Cameo
in the past, and I think it made it into
the intro of all your episodes, right, did Doctor Till die? Hello?
Speaker 4: S We had like a really bad storm a few
weeks ago, and ever since then, my internet just randomly
will shut off and turn back on.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't give me a heads up before
we scheduled this.
Speaker 4: It had stopped. It hasn't done this in like four
days or something like that. I was like, I thought
I thought we were done with it.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because I put all that out in the
audio version, I I caved and I took the mask off,
but I still have the goggle saw.
Speaker 3: I got rid of the gold.
Speaker 1: There was no way I could do and it was
it was really funny in my head.
Speaker 2: But I got tired of not being able to see anything.
So anyway, yeah, I feel you. Let's rewind here.
Speaker 1: You can book me on cameo doctor till I think
you've booked me on cameo in the past.
Speaker 2: Yes, this would be the funniest part for me, just like.
Speaker 3: Last time when I set you up.
Speaker 2: As Eric Fitz, who's been gone for a little while now.
Speaker 4: He booked you and got you to say that the ministry, dude,
is funnier than Revenge of the Cist, which is an
empirical fact, because Tony.
Speaker 1: Said, yeah, yeah, of course, of course for Mogg and
your friends. My favorite was I was watching your show
and I forgot that. I that and you gout you're
in the chat, You're in the thing. You're like, yeah,
you said better than Revenge of the Sas like I
never said that that you played the video.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, motherfucker, it's funny.
Speaker 4: Like I was working on the new intro last year
and I was like when are we gonna put in here?
Speaker 2: And I just came across that video and I was like,
when did Dony Fromack the Movies make a cameo?
Speaker 4: And I had texting people and Eric was like, oh,
that was me. I was like, oh, I completely forgot about.
Speaker 1: That anyway, finishing up the plugs here, guys, if you
want to see me in person, I'll be at a
few places this summer. I will be back at VHS
Fest ten. They got special guests there, Ronda Sheer, Todd Chets, Brian,
paulin Rich, George. It's gonna be a great time. I'll
be there all weekend with Crystal. That's July tenth to
July twelfth at the Mahoning Driving I can't wait. It's
gonna be a fun time. Oh, they're playing Silent Night,
Deadly Night, which I reviewed. I reviewed all the Silent Night,
Deadly Nights. You can also see me at Street Fighter
the movie the screening at the Rochester Comedy Festival. By
the way, Maya is Ken. Is Ken the white one
or the red one?
Speaker 4: I think Ken's the one. The I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was never a street Fighter guy. I was more
more combat because I got Sam those combos.
Speaker 1: So was I no reo? Okay, I got my reu
gee came in today. Me and Joey c will be
in costume as kenan Ryu. It's gonna be a fun time.
We're gonna be playing the movie. We're gonna have some
audience participation. We're gonna make fun of it. And that's
July nineteenth at the Photo City Music Hall. It's called
part of the Rochester Comedy Festival in Rochester, New York.
And I will be at the Sci Fi Horror Fest
in Vernon Downs on.
Speaker 3: August fourteenth and August fifteenth.
Speaker 1: Again, Crystal will be at that one too, So yeah,
look for me at all those places.
Speaker 2: Doctor show. Are you ready to finally talk about this show?
Hell yeah, let's do it all right.
Speaker 1: Spider Noir not spider Man Noir, which is what it
was originally called, but there's a reason for that, based
off the comic Spider Man Noir from the early twenty tens.
Speaker 3: Did you read this book at all?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I was aware of it though that was around the
time I was kind of getting out of comics, so yeah,
I was never I like Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I have Spider Man comics, but I was never like
I need to get a bunch of Spider Man comics.
Speaker 2: Like I have a few.
Speaker 1: He's one of my I mean, obviously one of my
favorite superheroes. Grew up watching the cartoon and everything. But
when it comes to like comic books, I'm like, oh,
I'll get like a big marble book, and if he's
a character in that, fine. I rarely go out of
my way to get like Spider Man centric stories. But
it's a cool idea. It's a multiverse. So that's kind
of the moral of this episode, Like this is what
the multiverse.
Speaker 2: Is meant for, Doctor Till.
Speaker 1: Stories like this not cameos from elderly actors who played
superheroes thirty years ago. That's not what the multiverses meant for,
which is what Doomsdays could be.
Speaker 2: All yeah, but that's.
Speaker 4: I thought my Internet was clicking off again. I got
the circles again. Sorry, I thought my Internet was flicking
off again.
Speaker 2: I was about to smash every monitor in his room.
Speaker 1: Because there's there is a there's a big pushback against multiverses,
mostly from anti will comic rifters like Eric July, who
blocked me when I pointed out that the AI that
he used for his thumbnail wasn't right because it added
like what two ws to the Hollywood side. That's why
he blocked me, not because I caused it domino effect
that ruined his business. I made one phone call to
a podcast that snowballed into the Ripper verse just being
a joke. I didn't get blocked for any of that,
but I got blocked for pointing out that his AI
thumbnail could have been cleaned. I even cleaned it up
for him in photoshop. Anyway, people like him are shitting
on multiverses because they're just making fun of like how
Hollywood is using it and how TV shows are using it. Like, no,
there was like it was supposed to be more than
cameos and it's for stuff like this or else worlds
is what we used to call it back in the day. Yeah,
like Gotham by gas Light. That's a very famous one.
Speaker 4: I would say I like this more than I like
Gotham by Gasline, even though like Batman's always number one,
you know, Yeah, this is the right tone, Like I
don't know everything, for this for some reason just fits perfectly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this show specifically. Yeah, well here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I started watching the Gotham by Gaslight movie, the animated movie,
and it looked like unfinished and I turned it off.
But I have read both comics multiple times, so yeah,
that's uh.
Speaker 1: Apparently it was very popular. There was a whole noir
line of comics. I think there was like X Men Noir,
Punisher Noir, a really cool idea. And then the character
ended up in the Into the Spider Verse movie voice
Bye Nicholas Cage, which made me very happy till because
I love Nicholas Cage and I feel like years ago,
when he was doing ghost Rider, I would just do
this thing where I would say, like every superhero movie
just needed Nicholas Cage, and I think I couldn't find it.
It's buried somewhere on my Facebook. There were years ago
I photo shot Nicholas Cage onto Andrew Garfield and I'm like,
this is the Spider Man, this is the Spider So
when like, what was it twenty eighteen when this came out,
I was just like, I was just like, oh wait,
Nicholas Cage is Spider Man. We finally made it. We
finally made it. I think that same year. Around that year,
he voiced Superman in the teen Titans movie. Also, oh, like,
finally we got him the Superman and Spider Man.
Speaker 3: All is right with the world.
Speaker 2: Loved him in into the Spider Verse.
Speaker 3: That was a good movie. Do you enjoyed that movie?
Speaker 4: I wasn't my favorite, but I'm just I'm not a
huge fan of animation in general. Okay, but it was
like it was one of those whords like this, if
this was live action, I would probably really love it,
and I can see why people loved it.
Speaker 2: The second one.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not even bothered with that. I
saw all the all the shit before.
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not even bothered with that.
Speaker 4: That was just gonna make me hate the other one
in retrospect, I'll keep what fondness for it.
Speaker 2: I have. You know what's weird?
Speaker 1: What I animation worked in the movie's favor for like
all the different like characteris teaming up and everything.
Speaker 2: I liked that he could Did you freeze again? God
damn it? Hello my hair.
Speaker 1: You're good, I'm here close again? Okay, it just keeps
scaring me. Dude, you need an animation for that movie.
So like, uh, everyone could have their like black and
whiteness and the anime stuff all clashing together. It would
look weird in live action if they tried it, which
they kind of tried to do in the second movie.
They had some live action actors with the animated ones.
The second one is fine, but it's not rewatchable. The
first one I've watched a bunch of times. The second one,
I'm like, yeah, I'll wait till the third one comes
out before I rewatch it. Also, no Nicholas Cage in
the second one. It does show up to the very,
very very end of it.
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 4: About the first one though, like as much as like
I'm not like a Miles Morales fan, Yeah, there is
a right way and a wrong way to do that
passing of the torch thing.
Speaker 2: And I think as far as like the first one's concerned,
they did it pretty well.
Speaker 1: I I know Miles Rales was kind of created because
some like legal ownership over a spider Man.
Speaker 2: They thought they were Yeah, I will say.
Speaker 1: This, most versions of Miles Morales that I've seen it
has worked for me. It's one of those passing the
torch where like a younger superhero with the same name. Uh,
even the whole race swapping or whatever it like works
for Miles Morales, like, it doesn't bother me.
Speaker 3: The thing is they struck go with Miles Morales and
then they went.
Speaker 1: Tiny uh Muslim Miss Marvel and I'm like, no, it's
not gonna work every single time, guys, it's not gonna
work every single time.
Speaker 2: And they were like, what do you want a little
girl Iron Man.
Speaker 1: It's like no, actually, I want literally anything else other
than that. So that was like the downside of Miles
where I was working so well. They tried it with
everything else and I'm like, no, it kind of only
worked this one time. It might work again. I'm just
letting you know. It didn't work now little girl, little
Girl White Tiger. That's like the only other one that worked.
She's now like a big Spider Man character. And now
some of the new Daredubel and stuff. Those are the times.
Speaker 4: They always learned the wrong lessons from this shit. Like
anytime something like like breaks big and they're like, okay,
so let's exactly copy this Verba, It's like, no. The
whole reason why it was big is because it was
had a little bit of something familiar, had a lot
of something new.
Speaker 2: That's what people generally want. She needs a little familiarity
as well.
Speaker 1: The Miles Rowles thing should have been like, Hey, this
is something we can do if we want to at
some point. Instead they went, this is something we should
do for every character, and it's like, no, don't do
that anyway.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Lord and Miller, who, by the way,
made one of the best movies I've seen this year
of Project Hill Mary. They were the ones who of
course produced the end of the Spider Verse movies. They decided,
this guy needs a live action TV show. And when
I heard We're getting a live action Nicholas Cage Spider
Man show, I went, this is the happiest day of
my life. This is the greatest not since the old
YouTube series Italian Spider Man. How about to see a
Spider Man thing in my life? And Nicholas Coppola is Italian,
so in a way this is my Italian Spider Man.
Till yeah, this is Were you excited when you heard
about this coming out? Were you pump for it or
were you hesitant?
Speaker 4: Were you one of those watch those things where you go,
Nicholas Cage doing a live action Spider no war, All right,
I'm in But also, why why are we doing this?
Speaker 1: I think they tested the waters with the animated film
and enough people went that was kind of funny. I
like Nicholas Cage that and they went, you know what,
give him his own show. By the way, I think
it's safe to say of all the Sony Spider Man
spin offs they've tried in the last ten years since Venom,
this is the only good one, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the best Venom movie was Upgrade, just
like the best ghost Rider movie was Drive Angry.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: I did enjoy Venom two a little bit. That one
was kind of funny.
Speaker 2: It was funny when it wasn't trying to be.
Speaker 1: But I got a whole episode on that where I
wore a costume for each crossover we were talking about.
But yeah, coming off of like Morbius and Craving the
Hunter and all that other shit, to just see like, hey,
what if Spider Man was in the thirties or twenties,
uh doing noir shit, I'm like, that sounds great, and hey,
look there is a Spider Man. You notice how there's
a Spider Man on screen. You know what, a lot
of those other spin offs were missing till Spider Man, as.
Speaker 2: I say, catering.
Speaker 1: Okay, So there were some legal reasons why he's not
called Spider Man. Apparently Sony. They only want like one
like live action Spider Man, I guess, And because he
smokes cigarettes and he's more violent. They're like, we don't
want to attach the Spider Man name to this, which
is why I'm the universe of the show.
Speaker 3: He's called the Spider this.
Speaker 1: Though, you know what I mean, Like it doesn't actually
it actually works out, and they called it Spider Noir
instead of Spider Man Noir like the comic and uh,
it's funny. In into the Spider Verse, he said it
his name was Peter Parker, and it is Peter Parker
in the comics, but he goes by Ben Riley, which
is famously the Scarlet Spider's name. But as you watched
the show, there's a line later on that shows like
he definitely changed his name at one point because they
didn't want Peter.
Speaker 3: They also didn't want the name.
Speaker 1: Peter Parker associated with the guy who drinks too much
and smokes cigarettes and kills people, so they're.
Speaker 3: Like called Ben Riley.
Speaker 1: But there is a line later on that implies that
his real name is Peter Parker, he just changed it
after the war. So I thought that was pretty cool.
But yeah, let's let's get into it. Let me let
me recap the first episode here, doctor till if you will.
That was a rhyme. I deserve one hundred dollars. What
his Aeronymhill call it? A red boy? I deserve a
red boy?
Speaker 2: How good that rhyme was?
Speaker 4: Never follow the footsteps of aeronem hole, You'll end up
with another man's stuff on you.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's caught as Italian sauce.
Speaker 1: In the nineteen twenties, private investigator Ben Riley once operated
as the vigilante The Spider, but retired after his fiance
Ruby Williams died In nineteen thirty three. Ben and another
PI Donagil or Hot this is off from the Wikipedia,
by the way, are hired by a man named Winston
to find criminal Jimmy Addison. Is that Jimmy Addison? My
cockles fogged off?
Speaker 3: There he is. I'm now for the audio listeners.
Speaker 1: I now put the cockles on my head because I
couldn't see anymore.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Donegal kills Addison after the latter reveals his pyrokinesis and
threatens him. Ben is later hired to investigate a nightclub
singer Cat Hardy. You get it till because Felicia Hardy
was the black Cat. But this is a kind of
different characters, so they switched the name up. Played by
Lee Jung Lynn I think was her name? Hold and
I have it here, Lee John Lee, who was in
the She was in the Exorcist TV show season two.
You ever watched the Exorcist TV show? No, Oh my god?
The first season is like a nice self can They
did do a second season, but the first season self
contained enough.
Speaker 3: It is a great legacy sequel to the Exorcist.
Speaker 1: To the point I got mad that they did Exorcist
Believer because it no longer had the show in continuity.
Highly suggested, but that's where I recognized this girl from Okay,
Kat Hardy the younger wife of a man named Carmody
for infidelity that turns out not to be true. At
the Redcliffe, Ben secretly stops Kat's supposed lover from assaulting her.
Him and Donegal then learned that Winston is the right
hand man for the crime boss silver Main Ben and
played by god what's his name? Hold on? Brandon Gleason.
I think the last movie I saw with the last
superhero movie I saw with him till I believe was
Joker too.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I forgot he was in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was weird because Joker it feels good
after a court trial and he makes fun of the guards.
Then when he goes back to jail, this guy looks
very mad. But then I got up to pee and
I missed a scene. Joker didn't want to be Joker anymore.
I don't know if I missed an important thing. Anyway,
that's the last time I saw him in a Superit.
Speaker 2: Did scared straight. Uh. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1: He's silver Main, which if you grew up with the cartoon,
he was a mob boss in the cartoon, but also
in the comics he becomes a robot man, which they
used this concept for the video game. They gave it
the tombstone, like his head on a robot suit.
Speaker 2: Uh where was I at here?
Speaker 1: Ben and the secretary Janet also discovered that Kat's companion
is Mayor Alfred Morris, so they dropped the case. After
learning the police recover in Addison's body, Ben goes to
the Alcove Nightclub to blackmail Cat and warned Doneghill about Silvermins.
Silvermin tortures and kills Donegal, while Cat sends her bodyguard
Flint Marco the Sandman, who was able to turn his
body into sand after ben Ben abandons the blackmail. After
Cat breaks up the flight. The next day, Cat hires
him to investigate Marco's disappearance. I just feel about the
first episode. I didn't get you invested in this universe
till it.
Speaker 4: Definitely got you on the This is a new war
and we're not messing around like this is a detective story.
This is, you know, in some ways akin to like
a Chinatown or you know, Maltese fight.
Speaker 2: It really is trying.
Speaker 4: To go in hard and it It's very light on
the Spider in the first episode, but there's just enough
to like, like, Okay, I'm I'm gonna keep watching because
I want to. I want to see this guy get
back into action. Yeah, and I like the first episode.
I thought it was you know, Spider stopped a assault. Whoa,
but you know whatever, that was very good of him.
We agreed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoyed the world, which, by the way,
I watched this in black and white.
Speaker 2: You watch it in color, I believe, or I went
back and forth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I will say, I watched the first episode
today in color, and a lot of people are saying
this online. It's unfair, Like the best color we've seen
in the Superhero thing and Forever is a show that's
meant to be watched in black and white.
Speaker 3: The colors are beautiful.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: Why doesn't every show look like this?
Speaker 1: I think, like Hollywood and whatnot, they're finally learning that
too many of our shows were too dark for modern
TVs and it's been driving people crazy for ten years.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's.
Speaker 4: A time and place for that, you know, but it's
comic book stuff unless you're doing Batman, like I think
The Batman was proper like, you know, accurately or appropriately
dark and gritty because.
Speaker 2: It's Batman, and it's it'sah Batman in the movie seven.
Speaker 4: This like it is meant to watch either of which
is very like a crazy like thing to have to
go to a DP and go, look, I want our
show to look awesome in both color and black and white?
Speaker 1: Can you do that?
Speaker 4: That was one of the things I kept going back
and forth between the color of the black and light,
because I mean, I went to film school with I
believe you went to film school as well. Yes, And
I'm always fascinated by lighting because it's it's almost everything,
like your sets could look like shit, but you light
them right, they.
Speaker 2: Look awesome, you know.
Speaker 4: And the I don't know who the DP for, if
they had the same guy or if they just had
like you know, a bunch of different guys working together.
But you go back and forth between the black and
white and the color, and you can really appreciate, like
how good this guy is at lighting things because you.
Speaker 2: Look at you look at certain friends.
Speaker 4: There's a scene I'm not sure which episode was in,
but where Silvermin approaches the mayor and they're like talking
and they're like these profile shots. You watch it in
black and white, the entire side of like the mayor's
face is completely like blocked down. All you see is
like a little bit of is like the edge of
his face. You're watching color. It's like a completely different experience.
But you're like, I see how this guy like, okay,
I just got I got work on hots and colds,
you know. So it's it's really cool watching people be
really good at their job.
Speaker 1: Okay, I looked up. So there's two there's two people credited.
One of them is Darren Tearning, which he doesn't. He's
not important enough to have a fucking Wikipedia name. However,
the other guy is Peter Deming. You want me to
read off some of the movies. He's been a cinematographer
for sure. Here we Go, Evil Dead two, Uh, Drop Dead,
Fred my cousin, Vinnie son in Law, Austin Powers, Uh,
The Powers, Gold Member, Scream two, Scream three, mahalland Drive
from Hell Drag Me to Hell. Well, he did the
Love Gurer's That one's pretty bad, Scream four, so he's
actually actually ironically, he worked a lot with Sam Raimi,
but not on his Spider Man movies, so I guess
he's thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: Like they gave Sam raimie like reins over like season
two to see what he would do with Oh, Spider Noir,
that'd be great.
Speaker 1: And the last movie he dp four that I saw
was The Menu, which I thought was really really good.
Speaker 2: Oh that was really good. Yeah that was a movie
where like I.
Speaker 4: Would see The Toaster four, I'm like, stupid looking movie.
Speaker 3: Oh this makes hold on, this makes so much more
sense now.
Speaker 1: He was also the cinematographer for Twin Peaks the Return,
which did have many color scenes and black and white scenes.
So okay, they got the right guy for the job.
They picked the perfect guy for the job.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Then I looked that up there, I'm like, Jesus Christ, Yeah,
this guy's loaded here. See I again. I like the world.
The city looks great, the sets look great. I mean,
there's some digital stuff that's pretty noticeable. But what I
really appreciated is that they were taking the noir thing
like seriously. It was funny, but not like making fun
of the concept like I just saw the New he
Man movie.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, uh oh did it do it again? God?
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, did you do it again, Tony? He's still there?
God damn it. Did Tony freeze or did I freeze?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's not me. Oh, oh my god,
it's not me. Oh oh.
Speaker 4: I want to say victory, but it doesn't feel like
a victory. Just feels like technology being really annoying.
Speaker 2: Hello, hello, oh god, they scared the ship.
Speaker 3: No, apparently it was me that time.
Speaker 2: Why does the internet hate is Tony?
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is raining by the play. I
don't know if that with it?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry anyway, as I was saying, do we sound good?
Speaker 3: The sound is good. Everyone just make sure.
Speaker 2: Sounds normal to me. But I can't really tell what they're.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, hold on, I got to replay here.
Speaker 2: I'm just glad it's not doing what I do.
Speaker 4: What happens to me, Like on my show when the
Internet suddenly goes down, like last week, it happened like
three or four times. Every time I'd come back, you
could only hear uh audio in the left channel.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so annoying.
Speaker 2: So I have to just restart the stream. It was
such a.
Speaker 1: Bad anyway, as I was saying, rewind The new he
Man movie very funny, has really good comedy in it.
But they felt like almost insecure at some parts. So
they had to like make fun of the Masters of
the Universe like concept a little too much. They're like, no,
you were doing fine. You didn't have to do like
self deprecating stuff. This doesn't do that. This is like, no,
we're gonna be We're gonna have really funny scenes, but
we're gonna like really commit like this is a noir thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of the comedy comes from just like
these people are trying to like accurate portray like people
from that era or like that genre movie, and it's
funny to us because there's like so much time between
like when people acting like that and now yeah uh
and yeah.
Speaker 1: I love the way it was shot. They have those
Dutch angles, really creative cinematography. I thought it was good.
I it hooked me and I was like, I was
gonna watch it regardless, because it's the less Cage of
Spider Man. I mean, I couldn't had to. I can't
stress enough how big of a win this is for me,
because it's such a ridiculous thing I thought would never happen.
Now I need this Italian Spider Man to show up
in one of the movies. That's all I want to
They keep ignoring him and all these multiverse shit. I'm like,
just give the Italian Spider In.
Speaker 4: The beginning, like his little beginning monologue, he says, there
was once a guy asked me what universe this was, and.
Speaker 2: I says, I want to know. Was that referencing into
the Spider Verse.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's referencing into the Spider Verse,
and he's like looking back on his past. But at
this point in the story, into the Spider Verse hasn't
happened yet, so he's like narrating from the future. I
think this is nineteen thirty three, And into the Spider Verse,
he says that he's already like fighting Nazi, so this
is like a little bit before. Then, also into the
Spider Verse, he said, like his uncle Benjamin was the
reason he became the Spider, or like his reason for
fighting crime. I guess that's still true Ruby, it was
his reason to stop fighting crime. So what the fuck?
Never mind, I just grew myself wrong. Anyway, a solid
first episode, and I even like a lot of the
supporting characters. Despider, you know, despite being nineteen thirties, you know,
he's cool with people of all races. He has an
Hispanic assistant.
Speaker 4: It is New York, though, it is like so like
by that time, it feels at least believably reasonable. Yea,
this was I think I told you, like this was
like Atlanta or Dallas or Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Fuck that.
Speaker 1: It was a little confusing because I thought maybe they
were doing like you see the New Fantastic forwards. You
see that one. Okay, well that's like we're the sixties.
But like if there wasn't a lot of racism. So
there's a lot of colored people all around the New
York and stuff, and I'm like, oh, I don't really
see that, but fine, that's another world.
Speaker 3: For a minute, I thought they were doing that, but.
Speaker 1: They actually did show that, like segregation is an effect,
like at some point the one guy goes to hotel
and it says whites only. They mentioned the military being segregated,
So yeah, I think you're writing it's New York, it's
the York.
Speaker 4: I hate when like historical dramas just.
Speaker 2: Like, nah, that wasn't a thing. It's like, yeah, it
was a thing.
Speaker 4: It wasn't a thing in like the nineties because we
got past that and then Obama happened and somehow we
over proect the fifties.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: I thought I would have been fine if they were
like whatever, this is a universe where it's not a
big deal because it's fucking spider Man.
Speaker 3: I don't really care that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's more annoying if it's like an
actual historical drama that's like meant to be, like this
is even though all historical things take liberties.
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know if this was correct. I
don't know if this is right.
Speaker 4: If they had just ignored the segregation in The Great Debaters,
that would have been way more uh bothers, which my
brother was in Actually oh he was, Yeah, he was.
It was an extra on, like the train scene. They
filmed that, the train scene like about forty minutes from
where I lived.
Speaker 3: Grow act as if I've ever watched The Great Debater?
I did not watch.
Speaker 2: Have you ever see The Great Beaters? I had it.
Speaker 4: It's an okay movie for like, you know, like all right,
this down on like down on the log, that segregated
school is getting into the white debate sphere and like
they're they're pushing their way through. It's like it's you know,
it's heartwarming enough. And you get to see the dad
from home alone be a racist assholes.
Speaker 2: That's fun. I'm in. I'm in, man in the chat,
are doing The Great Debaters? Okay.
Speaker 1: Episode two tread lightley the site. Despite suspecting Cat is
hiding information, Ben accepts the case and searches Marco's apartment,
discovering that Marco and Addison were former World War One
soldiers who once worked as enforcers for Silvermain cat atmits
Silvermin owns the alcove and says she has personal reasons
for searching for Marco. Which, by the way, I like
the Sandman's effect in this. He's not like the Sandman
we know he. I mean later on the very end
he kind of turns into a puddle of sand, but
it's more like his just becomes very sandy. Yeah, really
really hard.
Speaker 4: The face effects like looked better in black and white
than they didn't color.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Okay, which this guy, this actor speaking of face effects
and like the twenties and whatnot, he was in that
show Boardwalk Empire.
Speaker 2: He was the guy with the weird like plastic face.
He had like half his face blown off. I didn't
watch that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't watch that show, but while I was airing,
I had to see like pictures of that guy the
whole time, and I went, wow, wonder what his deal is?
And then I just never watched the show. I'm sure
it was good anyway, Where was Marco. Silvermain's men later
capture Ben, but he manages to escape. That is a
good scene where he beats up the guys in the car.
Ben's journalists friend Robbie Robertson, who is a very big
Spider Man character. He usually works at the Daily Bugle.
He's in the Sam Rainey Spider Man movies. He's the
big black guy. He's usually in the office. Oh.
Speaker 4: J J.
Speaker 1: Jameson, very popular? Who he was, Yeah, very popular Spider
Man Daily Bugle character Robbie Robertson interviews Addison's widow and
learns she's been spending money. Has been spending the money
Addison earned burning down silver Main's mansion on a luxurious
lifestyle that did feel like Goodfellas where they're like, we
just stole a bunch of money. Don't buy things that'll
draw attention. Cut to the guy going I got the
biggest tree they ever had, or the tune buying like
his wife Giper coachs like.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Sp Some people just can't be helped,
like buy these ten years from now, not right now.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Marco's condition worsens, forcing him to hide with his
friend Lonnie Lincoln Tombstone. This version of Tombstone is like
a crab starfish man. Do you remember what his deal was?
Because some of them are linked to animals. I think
he was like a crab or a starfish.
Speaker 2: I thought he was the Rhino the whole time.
Speaker 4: I didn't like they'd never really say exactly who they Oh,
the electricity guy says his name at the end, but
other than Flint Marco, they never really specifically stay if
you're not really super familiar with like all the the
Spider Man rogs Gally, I thought it was rhino.
Speaker 1: I just knew Tombstone had like hard skin. Well they
can't still, they can't do rhinos. So soon after he
blew audiences away and Craven the Hunter.
Speaker 2: Ah, that's true, you got me there. Yeah, well, like
what is his arm skin, Harden, it looked like rhino plating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he has I thought he was like
more crustacean or something. Anyway, maybe uh Lennie Linken, who
has superhuman strength and unbreakable skin. After Silvermain's men threatened Janet,
Ben becomes the Spider again. I love that scene. So
we found out when he quit being the Spider, he
hid his suit inside his old apartment and he like,
uh that scene, but he has to like go to
his old apart, but he's pretending to be like a
repair man. He's doing like a dorky voice and everything.
Speaker 2: Those are the best parts where like he's doing the
gum shoe like the.
Speaker 1: Sky shit, yeah, which is funny because he's doing like
like real cliche noir stuff that you would see people
make fun of the movies. And for a minute I
thought that was like them making fun of Noir until
a later episode where they that actually has a reason
why he's being like so animated and stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he like comes in he's looking like Clark
Kent or something.
Speaker 2: Like. He's like, yeah, I gotta fix the leak in.
Speaker 1: Your bathroom and he just starts hammering their wall and
get the spider suit out.
Speaker 3: I thought I was fucking hilarious that he just was
like why did you take it?
Speaker 2: When you moved?
Speaker 1: He just jumps out the window, and they're like, what
the hell was that?
Speaker 2: I never need this again. I looked up Lone Likenking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, he has Tombstone. They never I'm not
super familiar with Tombstone as like a character. Yeah, like
and they said Lonnie Lincoln. It never occurred to me
that he was not the rhino. He just like he
looked like a rhino, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean he could have been there. These
are loose adaptations of the character. Uh Ben becomes the
Spider again during an alcohol shipment. The Spider defeats Silvermain's henchman.
This is what I realize he is. He's not really
like he does kill people, more like people die while
fighting him, and he's indifferent to it. Like he just
he like webs the one guy's gun and like I
think I don't think he meant to, but he like
yanks it and just machine guns and other henchmen. I
thought that was awesome.
Speaker 2: I do like that they let him actually like kill people.
Speaker 1: And smoking cigarettes constantly. Yes, that's that's the only thing
where like media was just like we have to minimize
how many people are smoking.
Speaker 2: Like what was it?
Speaker 1: Someone brought up that, uh that Disney Mary Poppins movie
where Tom Hanks played Disney.
Speaker 3: Did you freeze again? Okay, you're good.
Speaker 2: I just listened there you go.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you did freeze for a second.
But it was fine that Disney, uh Mary Poppins. We
were Tom Hanks played Disney like he doesn't smoke at all,
and he was famously like smoking three packs a day.
We've kind of come back on that too where we
did that a little too much? Like what was it
that show Constantine based off the DC comics guy. Oh yeah,
they finally got a guy like unlike Keanu Reeves would
look like Constantine and acted like Consin and then like
he didn't smoke it, he like has a cigarette in
his mouth and like toward the end of that. Oh
it only ever had one season. He showed up in
ye Go, but I'm like, oh, come on. So I
liked that they were free to have him smoke it.
I think even the newest the Batman what it wasn't
allowed to have the penguin smoke. I think he did
in the show, but I don't think he did in
the movie anyway. Remember he takes down the alcohol shipment
until silvermain to leave pen Riley alone. That's another thing
I miss. I miss secret identities in superhero stuff. He
kind of got away with it with the DC the
mcu uh. But I love that they don't make any
jokes about like how do you not know he's the Spider.
Everyone's just like, hey, Ben Riley, I need you to
call your friend the Spider, and they never really question it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's a great scene with that like the
last episode.
Speaker 1: Yea, they questioned it when it's important to the story,
but that's something they could have like winked and nodded
at or whatnot. I'm like, no, I appreciate that they're
treating it like an old comic thing. We're like, yeah,
people just didn't question it. Obviously, he's not the Spider
I've never seen him as the Spider.
Speaker 2: How did he get Spider Uh?
Speaker 1: But I love so he like he tells him to
leave Ben and Jan and alone. Silvermain backs off, but
I love that Robbie calls him and he's like, hey,
there's a big raid that happened. The police got all
these people involved. They were waiting on silver Main, but
he never showed. So he comes out of retirement to
fight Silvermain, and he if he just did nothing, silver
Main would have been arrested. I thought that was fucking
hilarious because it just ends with him going like, oh God,
what did I do?
Speaker 2: What did I do?
Speaker 4: You gotta have, especially in the first episode, you gotta
have the main character fuck everything up so you can.
Speaker 1: Have yeah, uh solid second episode. Yeah, I was still
on board here. The action was fun. I love seeing
just Spider Man with old model t Fords. That's probably
not what the car is, but that's the only old
car I can think of. But this is our first
like Spider action sequence. We got, like a little one
in the opening of the first episode was just kind
of like a highlight reel. But no, I thought this
looked really it looked good in black and white. Did
you watch this scene in color?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see this one in color.
Speaker 4: I watched one in color and like three four, and
I think I watched the finale in color.
Speaker 3: Uh, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: The action I thought was great.
Speaker 1: And again it was cool seeing how pighly naked get
because we usually never get that in a live action
Spider Man thing.
Speaker 4: I like how they're not afraid of like like the contrasts,
like those one of the things that like made like
sin City so like striking as like a movie. Yeah,
it was in black and white, but it was like
a very high contrast, and then you could have like
these unrealistic like reflections that almost like anime ask and
they do that a lot.
Speaker 2: With his his goggles, and I yeah, I love it. Yeah,
uh yeah, I love I love his costume everything, although
it is weird.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll be in a full suit, and for a
minute I thought he was just putting a jacket over
a super No, he has like an additional suit that
he puts on, and I'm like, that's gonna take a
really long time to put on.
Speaker 3: What the fuck?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Episode three, Double Cross.
Speaker 1: Ben is hired by silvermin to find out who leaked
the liquor transfer at the hospital. He learns injured officers
were tipped off by Morris. Robbie goes to a poor
neighborhood to question Lincoln, but witnesses a raid ordered by Morris,
which was the mayor, for sing Marco and Lincoln to
use their powers against the cops. So we can see
Tombstone and the Sandman just taking out like cops. Uh.
Janet discovers Addison, Lincoln, and Marco were former prisoners of war.
Ben also finds out that Carmody, which, by the way,
the guy who played Carmody, I'm pretty sure he was
one of the bad guys and lost skeleton of Cadaver.
Did you ever watch that movie?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 1: Speaking of a black and white comedy, that's one of
my favorite comedies of all time. Uh.
Speaker 4: I think I've heard you mentioned before I've been meaning
to watch that. Give me one of those where I
can't remember. It's got some of those weird names.
Speaker 2: You're like, what is that?
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him now, Brian Hall, I believe. I
believe that's him in the show. Hold on, let me
double check here, Spider Noir Carmoy, I'm right, Yes, that
guy who was pretending to be Kat's husband. He is
in Lost Skeleton A cadaver, one of the funniest comedies
I've ever seen. He's in a shit ton of stuff.
He's a character actor that you've seen in a million things. Uh,
I gotta review fucking Lost Skeleton Man. That movie is
so good anyway. Uh. He lied about being Kat's husband
to gather evidence on Morris and Cat, and that Cat
arranged the meeting he includes Kat, leaked the transfer and
hired Addison to burn down Silvermain's mansion. Ben breaks into
Silvermain's vault, which was a good scene where he's trying
not to wake Silvermin up, and he's got like the
lights on. He turns the lights off whenever he shifts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his goggles are so cool.
Speaker 1: He's paying Via to leave town before she exposes Cat.
Marco briefly considers escaping with Cat, but abandons the idea
due to his symptoms worsening.
Speaker 3: A little further.
Speaker 1: Ben later confronts Kat at Penn Station, which I was
at recently, and there's a lot of crazy people there.
I think someone how much just got stabbed there this week,
And I'm like, God, damn it. I go to that
station whenever I'm in New York changed nine years, what
was it like a month ago? And I was there.
I really needed to go to the bathroom and I
was waiting in line. The public restroom at Penn Station
is one of the worst things you'll ever see. But
like I got to the ornal and there was just
this young guy sitting on like the baby changing station,
like laughing to himself, and I went, absolutely not. I'm
holding it for two hours. I'm holding it for two
hours until I get home. Absolutely not.
Speaker 2: See the way you handle that, Tony is as you
walk past him, you just match his laugh. Then go
to your stall, keep laughing, and then like you have
to keep laughing while you washing your hands, and then
you leave. He'll never know she were there.
Speaker 1: No, there wasn't enough room to run if something went
south there wasn't enough room to run jab As she
tries the fleet, but Winston, who is Silvermain's right hand
man who is Lucas, captures them. After tracing marked payments
from Silvermain, Ben frames Wisden by using the money to
pay via Silvermain shoots Gills Windson. I love that up
where Silvermain's talking to Ben, He's just like the money
never lies and he realizes he has marked bills.
Speaker 3: That was a great setup and payoff.
Speaker 4: Where moments like that, I wish they would have done
a little bit of the Sin City, just like a
little bit of color to some things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been cool to see a hybrid
of both styles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been cool. But I love like
because you think they're fucked, you think Kat and Ben
are dead. But then he goes to check the money
and Silvermain realizes that it's the money that was used
with the money gives Winston, so it makes Winston look.
Speaker 2: Like the rat.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really really funny. Again, Spider
the Spider Man, we know what he cause a Rupe
Goldberg thing to get a man murdered. What the Spider
Man dies and we think it shot? And I love
how comedic it is with them falling into like the graves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that scene was.
Speaker 4: It was really tense and like when they when the
the Bill reveal happened, You're like, oh yeah, I already
forgot that happened.
Speaker 2: Like episode.
Speaker 1: Also, I love that Ben Riley is just making fun
of all the henchmen constantly.
Speaker 2: He never stops insulting them even though he should. At
some point he just mugs him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Another solid episode.
Speaker 2: It was worth it.
Speaker 3: The whole episode was great for.
Speaker 1: The Spider Man breaking into silver Bin's house and and
the whole money thing.
Speaker 2: I thought that, Oh okay, I thought it was me again?
Was it me or you?
Speaker 4: This time?
Speaker 1: I didn't see anything on my end. We good, we got,
we got.
Speaker 2: I think we're good. Okay, it's just like you robot
it for like a second, so I don't.
Speaker 7: Know what else.
Speaker 2: You're good though, till you know what.
Speaker 1: I think would help if I got like a big
umbrella over my house to from the lane and till
you know how, I think we can afford something like that.
Super chats Please get your super chats in everyone and
get you We only have two right now?
Speaker 2: What is this hit that super chat button?
Speaker 8: Say?
Speaker 2: Okay for Fray. You think entertainment comes with no money? Ah,
you pay the coffs.
Speaker 1: Eh, I'm a spider, and I say, all right, I
didn't hate the super chat.
Speaker 2: This Cage like he could literally just do a whole movie.
Like it's just him alone in a room, just talking,
done nothing.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing what was that was that five minutes
of Freddy's for a Puff he was in Willie's Wonderland.
M My favorite thing about that is I don't think
his character's ever named and he doesn't talk, so in
my head canon, it just is Nicholas Cage, like he
picked up an odd job while traveling.
Speaker 4: And I feel like some of those, like those any
movies he did, you could string together into a single continent.
Speaker 2: Okay U.
Speaker 1: Episode four a mistake I'll never make again. Cat reveals
to Ben she hired Addison to kill silver Main. Look
at this shot. That's a fucking beautiful shot.
Speaker 2: The cinematography in this fucking show.
Speaker 1: Split diopter, that's beautiful, all right. Cat reveals to Ben
she hired Addison to kill Silvermain so she could settle
down with Marco after Silvermain murdered her first fiance, Marco
Eves drops on their conversation. Feeling betrayed, he decides to
work with Silvermain again, which should have been this picture.
Speaker 3: I did it out of order.
Speaker 1: Silvermain Again. Robbie and Janet interview Lincoln at the office.
Silvermain uses Marco to intimidate Morris into backing off his
campaign ending prohibition.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: The mayor wants to win reelection, so he's trying to
stop prohibition. So of course all the mobsters are like, wait,
we're making money from that. Ben and Kat spend the
night at his place, where he divulges how Ruby died
from a criminal he caught seeking revenge. They both leave
after hearing a many human is attacking the Diamond District.
They think it's Marco, turns out to be Dirk Leeden,
who is what's his goddamn name? Megawatt, which I spent
the whole series thinking this was Electro. It was saying
cool reinterpretation of Electro, but apparently it is a lesser
known superhero called Megawatt. And I have no idea why
they picked that, but they were other than Samon.
Speaker 4: It seems like they were trying to get more towards
the like a little more obscure Spider Man villains that
you could play around with a whole lot more, so
many people wouldn't be, you know, so upset about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, uh part of one thing I like about
how charming this is one. I like that all the
bad guys are kind of just pudgy dudes.
Speaker 2: They're just like, what if?
Speaker 1: What if all these characters you knew were actually just
pudgy middle aged man.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Did.
Speaker 2: I gotta say? I think Megawatt was probably my favorite
character in.
Speaker 1: I looked up the character and apparently the character is
an actor in the comics, and that's like one of
his things. He wants to be actor, which so theatrical
when he's doing all his crime stuff. But yeah, he
uh he gets to a fight with the Spider. The
Spider defeats him by shutting off the power in the
area to prevent lead In from storing any more electricity.
So yeah, he basically has to keep siphoning electricity from stuff,
and you see during the fight he gets more and
more exhausted, kind of like, uh, the Spider will run
out of webs. They are organic webs. I know a
lot of Spider Man fans are very split on organic webs.
But I like that that he like runs out if
he overuses them and has to like recharge.
Speaker 2: But he's dark dark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: Black webs that shoot out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's gross. He's more vitamins.
Speaker 1: Bro, He's an alcoholic, all right, He's not the most
nutricious Mega.
Speaker 4: What uh.
Speaker 2: We just tar for most cigarette smoke.
Speaker 3: Uh so yeah, Morris, I did love this.
Speaker 1: Morris uses this victory to boost his campaign because like,
basically Silvermain was working with the mayor but then the
mayor kind of screwed him over. But I like that
those uh, the Spider fights Mega and the mayor just
comes out and he's working for me, and he's like, no,
I'm not unrelated, but to wearing that fight. Cat notices, hey,
wait a minute, the Spider showed up when Ben wasn't around.
Cat returns to Ben's apartment and deduces that he is
the Spider.
Speaker 2: She does the classic Lois.
Speaker 1: Lane falling out the window gamble bitch if you're w
and of course he shoots the web and grabs her
and then they kiss.
Speaker 4: They're in love now till oh god, if only he
had seen no war movies he would have seen what.
Speaker 2: Happens coming a mile away. There's a reason why they
call him the thin fatalel.
Speaker 3: Another good episode.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got like a super powered fight because
all we got in the first episode was Saman punching
the spider off the or yeah, punching Ben off the building.
And like, for whatever reason, this forever reason, Saman didn't
see him use his web and swing and didn't think
that's weird that he survived that fall. No one's questioning it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean you listen to Flint talking the show.
I don't think he's that bright. My hand's turned of sand,
just like my brain's.
Speaker 3: Uh but yeah, I really enjoyed that fight.
Speaker 1: And you're right, Mega Lott is kind of the best
bad guy in this whole show us to like, she
looks almost like a rash Yeah, I really did. I again,
I really like what they did with the villains in this.
Uh but yeah, really really solid. She's she really is
winning me over. The girl plays Cat. I think she's
really really good. I kind of want to see her
war sto.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a good actress.
Speaker 1: Actual, wait, she was in something else? Did I see
her in any?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sinners?
Speaker 3: Did you see Sinners?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah I did.
Speaker 1: She's she's the idiot who gets real mad and invites
all the vampires in at.
Speaker 2: The that was the most like what is wrong with you?
Speaker 1: People get it when she was upset and reached her
breaking pall like I get it, I get it, I
get it. But when you're watching you're like.
Speaker 2: Oh, lady, no, the Sinners. The entire movie could have
been averted if they had just banned the vampires. Like
when were the first time they come in? They're like, oh,
let's singing dance? Like, no, you guys are banned from
the venue, all right, Dorman, don't let them in?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Sinners is a very important movie. It
tells us that we should not be importing the Irish.
I mean, as an irishman, I agree, yeah, yeah, if
you really think about it, Sinners is very anti immigration.
It's like, look, we let these figners in and now
they're turning our brave back because we let this Irish
guy into America.
Speaker 2: Don't you want to sing and dance with us?
Speaker 1: No, that's all I always say, Irish, get him out.
And I say that as someone whose mother's made a
name of O'Brien.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Tony, you know how the Irish got their white
card in America?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 1: Uh, keep in mind you're on my channel, so uh.
Speaker 4: See, the early nineteen hundreds, the Irish were not well
liked in America and there was a lot of fighting
with authorities and stuff.
Speaker 2: And picture a boat showing up full.
Speaker 4: Of Italians and the Americans and the Irish both stop
and go who the fuck is not? And the American
The Americans are like, I don't know, and the Irish go,
you want us to beat them for you? And that's
how we became cops.
Speaker 1: And then the Americans said, okay, Irish, as long as
you don't go sleeping with all those Italians. And then
the Irish did not listen, which is why we have
so many goddamn Irish Italians.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean me, included me, including the Irish tend
to be Hypocrits. No why, I don't know what you mean.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we saw gangs in New York. But thank you
for spoiling the ending there. I didn't know.
Speaker 2: Stops.
Speaker 1: They all look at a bunch of people going out
going the movie having this.
Speaker 2: In the beginning. That movie is so fucking funny day.
Lewis looks over and there's just like a plumber going,
let's it go, and he's like, oh, oh, I can't
be having this snow weekends. Okay.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Episode five betrayal, Oh, this part hurt. This is one
of the two up man spiders. I think we're getting
this here because the New Spider Man movie. I think
it's heavily implied he's gonna turn into the Man Spider,
which I hope to fucking god he does.
Speaker 3: I hope he really does. Excited for that New Spider Man.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that New Spider Man.
Speaker 2: I saw a picture of Savage Hulk earlier. I don't know.
I'm feeling very lukewarm about this. The Spider Man movie.
I like the last three.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought there's been this like shift. I think
it's mostly film Twitter that like once us they hate
the MCU Spider Man, and I'm like, no, it's actually
one of like the good things he still has.
Speaker 4: The Only time that anybody pays attention to MCU right
now is if a Spider Man movie comes out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is annoying because it's people who, like
I think, only grew up on the movies.
Speaker 2: Didn't really watch a lot of the cartoons.
Speaker 3: Because they're just like, he never has his own movie.
Speaker 1: He's always teaming up with the other superheroes. And I'm like, literally,
not the first appearance of spider Man, but spider Man
Issue one, the cover is him with the Fantastic Four,
Like that's kind of been his thing, and the old
movies were not allowed to do that.
Speaker 2: So it's like, no, this is like.
Speaker 3: Sort of his thing, is teaming up with other superheroes.
Speaker 9: He's kind of annoyed they picked Punisher, Like that's fine
spider Man's I mean, like, if we're gonna be like
down the line with it, spider Man is more or
less a PG superhero.
Speaker 1: Well you know, I mean I don't mind that. I
like that you can have this character b R rated
in one thing and PG in the other.
Speaker 4: Uh. Well, the thing though, bother me is that if
they nerve his nature, I guess you'd say, like if
if Punisher isn't being Punisher, like, it's fine for Spider
Man be like, no, dude, don't kill him.
Speaker 2: What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 4: Like that's fine, that's great because that's conflict. Yeah, I
mean the same conflict you have with Daredevil, but with
a kid.
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, it's kind of like hitters because the MCU
like they do murder bad guys. They're always killing henchmen
and stuff.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think Spider Man will stop
him killing, but I don't think Punisher.
Speaker 1: I don't think Punisher is gonna do what he did
in our nineties cartoons where he's just like, yeah, I'm
gonna use non lethal. Yeah he's not took that. I
think Spider Race is gonna stop him from killing, but
he still will be a killer. I'm just hoping that
during his I'm assuming ten minute cameo, it's not him
going I once again give up being the Punisher because.
Speaker 2: I fear to God that'll be t That's all I can.
Speaker 1: That's all he does.
Speaker 2: He just keeps quitting being the Punisher anyway.
Speaker 4: Side note, one last kill was abysmal. It was absolutely
it was the dumbest thing I've seen in a long and.
Speaker 2: Everything was fine, but yeah, the setup for the story
was dumb. But can he just actually I.
Speaker 4: Just didn't feel anything because none of it. Matt Oh
an old lady in a wheelchairs like, oh, we're gonna
get you. Why didn't you just pull a shotgun out.
Speaker 2: And blow her away?
Speaker 1: You know, she's one of the fucking mob. Like what
But like, I'm just glad. I'm just hoping he stays punisher.
Now I can't do another I'm retired story. That's what
I liked about boring again. I thought he was just
the punisher again, like fuck you anyway. Ben reveals the
Cat that he got his powers fifteen years earlier during
the final days of World War One after discovering discovering
German experiments on prisoners of wars he was liberating.
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool. I love when he breaks in.
Speaker 1: When he breaks into that whole camp, it just finds
all those crazy mutants, like the man Spider here. That
is one of my.
Speaker 2: Favorite things about this series is did you ever read
Batman Black and White? No?
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a short run where
it was just kind of like very noir like themed
Batman stories, like kind of one off stories, And one
of them was like Batman broke into a mad scientist's
lab and he has like deformed mutant creatures in vials,
like giant vials, and like Batman has to essentially kill
them to save them. It's a very terrible story. But
like this, this whole like the the Mad Scientists lab
that we get in like later, like that ship. Oh
it just it hits all the right buttons.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're like, okay, I got it for like
the animals. I saw the electric eel and stuff. But
when it came to Sandman, I was like, wait, how
are they putting sand.
Speaker 2: DNA damn sand with the man? What I'm kidding.
Speaker 1: I get everything else but the fire guy and the
sandman based on how they turned into a fire guy
in a sand guy, I get like tombstone being like
a crustacean, the electric eel, the smile, I get all
of that with the sand and fire guy. Like, okay,
these seem a little This seems like a different kind
of science.
Speaker 2: Where'd you get the fire from fire ants? What that's
not How that doesn't work.
Speaker 1: The same way as electric eels. Anyway, he was bitten
by a mutated half spider prisoner.
Speaker 2: Which they just fucking kill. They just walk up and
just shoot that guy in the mind put the guy
out of his fucking misery. With the guys dying already,
Robbie regains his job at the daily Bugle.
Speaker 1: Using his story about the Spider and Leaden's battle, he
and Janet discover every meta human had seen Doctor Faber
before developing powers, which, by the way, when he's in
the past, I love when like he first wakes up
on the bike, he's like acting like a spider.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like all curled up. Yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Like when spiders are resting, they put their arms like,
and he does it. Like later on when he's like
drunken fan out, he will start to kind of act
like a spider, which, yeah, I feel like that is
like the cage being like I should probably do something
like spider movement. And I love that he can't control
it at first, he's like, oh yeah, which, by the way,
here is where he tells Kat that he uh, when
he got back, he the spider part of.
Speaker 2: His brain was like taking over.
Speaker 1: So when he got to America, he was watching like
detective films to learn how to talk again. And like
that's kind of funny that that's how like he's just
imitating what he saw in films because he had to
teach himself how to be a human to counter the
Spider powers. Like that's really fucking clever and really funny. Also,
I think they dated him. It looked great in black
of WAE. I have not seen it in color. I
want to see what the scene looks like in color,
to see if the d aging is more noticeable or not. Yeah,
I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't really know.
Speaker 4: Like he Nicholas Cage doesn't really age already, so like
he looks a little smoother and thinner here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's mainly the neck. You know, maybe he
got a facelift shots.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they met with doctor Faber for developing their powers.
While Robbie interrogates Faber in her secretary Ogden, Do you
know who Ogden is?
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't. I wasn't familiar with this guy.
Speaker 1: That's Andrew Robertson, uh uncle or Larry from Hell Raiser.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god?
Speaker 1: Really yeah, and I know until I know what you're thinking. Wait,
you need the bad guy from Transfers three. Yes, of
course the bad guys are transfer Que, but he also
is Larry from Hell Raiser. He says the same quote
in Transfer three, he does the come to daddy thing.
I guess they wanted that to be his. I'll be
back and if you only ever did it in two movies.
But no, it's literally I've seen hell Raise till I
can't tell you how many times I've seen hell Raser,
and I don't see Andrew Robinson in a lot of
things these days. So when I saw his face, I'm like,
that's fucking Larry from Hellraser and this.
Speaker 2: Guys are wondering.
Speaker 1: My cousin Monica, who I forced to watch every Hell
Racer movie, who loves Spider Man and stuff.
Speaker 3: I text her, I'm like, I can't believe Larry.
Speaker 1: Was in this, and she went, oh, I stopped watching
and I couldn't get into it, and I went, what, Like,
this is what the hell?
Speaker 3: So I'm no longer talking to my cousin Monica.
Speaker 2: He was also in a Dirty Harry movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, he was in the.
Speaker 2: First Dirty Harry movie.
Speaker 1: While Robbie interrogates favor her secretary Ogden or ogin Ben
Seal's medical files, proving Faber tried to cure the mena
humans but instead aggravated their conditions and that they will
die if they keep using their powers. Marco, now Silvermain's
right hand man, recruits Lincoln and Freese lead in to
join them. Silvermain warns Ben to keep the Spider out
of his conflict with Morris. Ben asks Kat to leave
the city with him, and she agrees, but Marco oh Color.
But Marco confronts her over hiring Addison without telling him.
Lincoln informs Cat that Favor believes seeing the Spider could
help her find a cure, leading Cat to reveal Ben's
secret to Favor. She fucking betrayed him. One thing we
haven't mentioned Silvermain and Cat. Silvermain has this whole control
over Cat. He just wants to control everything about her
and make decisions for her. That's his thing. And it
reminded me of Frank from Blue Velvet. Do you ever
see Blue Velvet? David Lynch's Blue Velvet?
Speaker 2: That was one of the ones I didn't see.
Speaker 4: No, I've seen the Hole and drive, Okay, like there
was blue Velvet.
Speaker 2: I'll get into that eventually, and then I just never did.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you were, like, I haven't seen
Inland Empire, like, okay, yeah, Blue Belt skip that you're
you're like, you're like Tony, I'm a really big Lucas fan.
Speaker 3: I love th X eleven thirty eight. Haven't gotten around
the Star.
Speaker 2: Wars, but you know it's also Crash. It was Crash
one of his wall I've thought about David Lynch. No,
Crash is one of his, not the not the race one.
There was one where it was all the.
Speaker 1: No no, that was Cronenberg. I think.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I get Cronenberg, and Lynch sometimes makes I'm
more of a Kronenberg guy person.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: In Blue Velvet, Uh.
Speaker 1: What's his face? Who played Frank Jesus Christ King Koopa?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Oh, Gene Hackman, Haman Hackman, fucking.
Speaker 1: Hooper Hopper, Tennis Hopper. He's doing the same thing where
he's like, uh, basically harassing this girl drothy and ruining
her life, like kidnapped her husband and everything, and basically
tells her what to do and everything. But it's because
he's like impotent, so he can't like have sex or anything,
so he just so he has control, because like there
was a whole thing where like Silvermin is never making
a move on her or anything. But I think the
show didn't want to say he was impotent, so they
just turned it into a control thing. Whereas in Blue
Velvet you see Frank have a mental breakdown because he
can't do anything.
Speaker 2: On the medical field. They call that Ethan Ralph syndrome's
that's not not on this show, let's not.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Ethan Ralph remembers who I am,
but I think I left the chat on his stream
like two years ago when things are going well and
he said hi to me, let's just keep it at that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to. I don't want to bring that
way doctor till please.
Speaker 2: It was all me. It was all me. Tony's innocent.
Speaker 1: Hope Ralph is doing great. I don't know anything going
on in his life right now.
Speaker 2: I hope he's I hope all his flights go well.
Speaker 1: God damn you.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 1: Silvermain is basically Frank for Blue Velvet, only he doesn't
have an oxygen mask and he doesn't scream mommy, although
he probably does that behind the scenes, we're just not
seeing it.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved all the origin stuff in this episode, with
him going into the camp, getting into the fight, and
finding the lab.
Speaker 3: I thought that was really cool. It's a cool twist
on the classic.
Speaker 1: Spider Man tail of how he got his powers, and again,
the Muans and the monsters were fucking crazy looking. How'd
you feel about this episode? It's probably one of my favorite.
Speaker 4: Because a lot of times when shows they do the
flashbacks and I'm like, yes, you know, it's great filling
in holes that really didn't need to fill in. Yeah,
I love the flashback of him getting his powers. That
might be one of my favorite, like superheroes getting the
power sequences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's important because like his org, which
a lot of these you could just skip the origin obviously,
but his origin is tied into the villains and part
of like the plot and how it gets resolved. So
it's like something we needed to see. And I thought
that was very clever. So it's cool how like each
new mutant it's like, oh, they're all in this one
prisoner of war thing. And then also Ben was there
this like apparently this pow camp was the most important
thing that happened in the war.
Speaker 2: They kept a bunch of mutants out of it.
Speaker 3: So I mean, and I like the twist with doctor Faber.
Speaker 1: We we learn a little bit more about it in
the next episode, but like, she's not like creating the mutans,
and I swore to god she was gonna be like
the Jackal or something because he's always doing like clones
and stuff, and this Spider Man movies or not movies,
comics and cartoons. Uh but yeah, so I like that
she tried to help him and it made it worse.
It made whatever the Germans did worse. I thought that
was a neat twist instead of she's here in America
now continuing your experiments. Yeah, and of course we all
knew that that fem fatale was going to double cross Ben.
We all knew that. Oh yeah, so that was a
good cliffhanger of the episode. Up next, we got three
episodes left eight episode series Nightmare on a Gurney. Episode six,
Ogden Orrogden I cannot pronounce that name comes to Ben's
department and disclose it discloses he has served in the
war as well, but his mutation has rapidly aged him.
So he's actually much younger than everyone.
Speaker 2: What.
Speaker 4: I don't know, who is he supposed to be in
like the like the the Normal Spider Man. Was there
just a bad guy who just got old?
Speaker 1: That was hours made up for the show. I don't
think it's I was just like I was wondering, like,
who is he?
Speaker 2: Who could he be?
Speaker 1: But again, this camp, are they making animal people or
fire sand people? And then this guy just gets old.
Like what they were they doing?
Speaker 4: They crossed his DNA with a dog.
Speaker 2: Ages seven times three. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the only Why'm so loyal to as mom. But
his mutation is rapidly aging him. When Ben refuses to cooperate,
he drugs him. I do think that's funny. When he
pulls out the Needle's like, well, sorry, I have to
do this, which I forget if Ben's spider sense kicked in.
Speaker 2: Uh there, Oh, that's one thing we haven't mentioned. I
love the way they do the spider sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he like the hairs on the back of his
neck stand up and he rubs them and the camera
shakes a little bit.
Speaker 3: I thought that was cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like visual you you don't really do it
a lot in the Sony Spider Man movies, like he
doesn't really like occasionally they talk about as Peter Tingle
and like the third one.
Speaker 2: But it's he had it in Civil War. It wasn't
until Far from Home where he like mastered it.
Speaker 1: That was like the thing I think he had like
trouble Masters, and that's he has to master it to
like figure out the uh, the the illusions that what's
his face. Uh yeah, that's that. Whole movie is like
he's had this thing. It works, but he never really
like focused on and everything, and that movie forced him
to kindly kind of finally figure it out. I liked
in No Way Home when he gets his soul punched
out of his body and the spider Spencers are going,
you see the little lines.
Speaker 2: Like the that.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Uh, doctor Strange is a dick for doing that.
You just brushed the kid's soul out of his body.
I feel like you should be in jail.
Speaker 2: Favor.
Speaker 1: Favor reveals that Ogden is her son and she's determined
to find a cure for them. Wait yes, uh, Meta
humans help him before examining Ben's organs because he was
able to bond with the spiderself so well and he's fine,
They figure whatever work for him could be the cure
for everyone else. During her operation, Ben has nightmares about
the procedures and changes he endured after the spider bite.
Speaker 2: That was cool.
Speaker 1: When they like cut him open and all the spiders
come out, Yeah into a spider on his face, that
was awesome.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Favor is able to develop a cure and reserve restores
Ogden to his true age. She plans to kill Ben
so they could cover their tracks, but Ogden allows him
to escape to repay his services. Silvermain and his men
invade the facility to find more many humans to join
the Did they find like failed mutans?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: Huh see, I like he knows some of them. It
was other people that they were in the war with.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like one of the things that uh favor
like didn't ever consider is he didn't get the treatment directly,
like the stuff that the Germans we're doing. His stuff
came from a bite from someone who is directly affected
by the treatment.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. That just seems like a detail
that could have been useful to her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know why she didn't think about that.
Speaker 4: This this episode two, while it has some of my
favorite stuff, it probably has my least favorite convenience of
the whole show.
Speaker 2: That kind of makes Spider Noir not the best of guys. Okay,
but uh, you know the end of it, I guess
we'll finish it here and then I'll talk about that more.
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, well, basically.
Speaker 1: Leading Uh kills the doctor and Therasana, Silvermain, Silvermain's Ben
blow up the lab. Ben leaves with the cure in
his possession. That's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So like the the end, like where Silvermain's guys like
I know, like he was like injured personally. I just
would have liked a little more at least effort or
acknowledgement that these people.
Speaker 2: Might be dying down.
Speaker 4: There, because with Silvermain and like he sees the places
like burning at one point, he doesn't even.
Speaker 2: Try to go in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it conveniently blows up like you know, right
as he's getting over the hill with the with the cure.
I was like, I just wish they would have He's
a hero. I wish he would have done something at
least tried something heroic there.
Speaker 1: Well I also think he was like still like tripped
out and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that could have been a good reason
for why he didn't get there in time or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have worked like he went back to help,
but you couldn't get there enough. But yeah, uh I
thought it was. And then we got this cool element
where they killed the people who can make the cure,
so we're only limited to like six needles.
Speaker 2: Yeah you get every time, dude, Dude that you know.
Speaker 1: My famous I uh phobia all right.
Speaker 4: I thought about warning you, but I was like, I
don't want to spoil anything. It's very quick, so hopefully
it won't bother him too much.
Speaker 1: When I tell you in the next episode that I
audibly screamed, I'm not lying. I did do and I
didn't have anything.
Speaker 2: God damn it. Oh, I know that's not bothered Tony.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I'm guessing not many of the people who
followed me are watching this because usually when something new
comes out and there's an eye stabbing, I get, Tony,
you're gonna love this. I didn't get a single one,
so I wasn't prepared till I wasn't prepared. Episode seven, Uh,
Nobody's hero Silver Main has Leading and Marco attack Morris's
campaign off this and steal his money. Ben drowns his
sorrow over Cat's betrayal in alcohol at a bar and
beats up a group.
Speaker 2: Of naysayers, which does.
Speaker 1: This is great because they come in and they're just
making fun of the spiders, like maybe the spider's just
just like a guy.
Speaker 3: He's trying to do.
Speaker 2: Face I love.
Speaker 1: He druggedly walks out of the bar, doesn't put the
full suit on, just the mask, trunckedly walks back and
they're like, it's the Spider. I'm like, this is great.
I love that they're so committed to that guy has
a mask.
Speaker 2: He clearly can't be the last guy.
Speaker 1: And he kicks the ship out of him, but he
uses way too much webbing, which will screw him over
in the next fight. After some encouragement from Robbie to
help other many humans, Ben prepares to prepares doses of
the antidote to cure all of them, and plans to
use it on himself afterwards, which, by the way, I
believe here is where Janet learns that he's the Spider
for the first time and out about how did you
love that? Where he's like, I'm the Spider and she's like, yeah,
you've told me, and then it's just a montage. I
was laughing so hard.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: It turns out years ago, when he was the Spider
and he would get ship based, she would routinely walk
in on him drunk in the Spider alph and and
each time he would tell her he was the Spider
and then he would forget. So he thinks it's the
first time every single time, and she's just like, yeah,
I've known for a really long time. I was just
helping you out.
Speaker 4: I forgot to mention that little kid he recruits all
his private eye stuff. Oh, the real gangster of the
real translator.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just a little more. Hey was that Janet's
like son. She's like teaching him like english and math.
Speaker 1: At one point, I think he was just a neighborhood kid.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: She's always correcting his like lingo because he's using old
timey twenties lingo, and she's like, stop it, say it
like this. I just I just love when he's just
wearing the goggles and the hat and then just like
the white tank top.
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm the Spider. The Spider is busy.
Speaker 4: Oh and when she comes in, turns on the light
and he's sitting on his desk with his typewriter on
his lap, and he's just got the goggles on and
he's just typing, and he's just like, I'm visual right now,
I'm hanging on.
Speaker 1: The walls singing. He's like, I'm just.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, he wants to quit being the Spider,
so he's gonna say the last ana for him. As
the Spider struggles use his powers battling Lincoln due to
a previously due to previously over using his webbing in
the bar fight.
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot. I had a picture of it.
Speaker 1: Robbie manages.
Speaker 2: I feel like those cages actually had that situation happened once.
Speaker 1: Which okay, So I did like that. The rival mayor
candidate is just giving beer to the cops. He's like,
vote for mayor. This vote for may or. So yeah, uh,
he a fight. He fights Tombstone and they can't get
the needle in his skin, so they injected into his eyeball.
I was so close.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know if he's watched this
part yet, because I wasn't sure where you were at
in the show, and I wanted to be like, hey,
in episode seven, when Robbie picks up a needle, close
your eyes.
Speaker 1: I literally like, I went like, Oh, how's he gonna
get the needle in there of his skin?
Speaker 2: To I was like, Oh, they're obviously going to have
to do it in soft tissue. Where would that be? Oh,
his eyeballs? I was screaming.
Speaker 1: I went no, because it's pretty rough, man. It gets
in there and he's screaming for a while.
Speaker 2: They would have done it as ass.
Speaker 1: So he's cured and they help him evade the police
while Ben recovers from the fight, which again he's on
the bed like this in the Spider Out. Yeah, Lincoln
thanks the two for helping him, encouraging encourages Robbie to
find another way to report outside of the Daily Bugle
and leaves the city with his mother. Both Silvermain and
Morris find out what happened in order order them men
order their men to get Ben to contact the spiders.
Now the mayor and the mobster what Ben's friend the
Spider to talk to them?
Speaker 3: Good episode.
Speaker 2: I love the bar fight. The bar fight was great.
Oh yeah, that was definitely a highlight.
Speaker 1: They all the spiders stuff is great. That's like the
best part of Yeah.
Speaker 4: They did such a great job with the I don't
you call it like the where the camera like follows
like his foot or his fist as he yeah, punch
like he does like in the first episode where he's
fighting the jewelry store robbers with the Tommy guns. He
does a sweep kick and the camera like is almost
tracked to his foot as he's like sliding around.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool. It's very like kinetic, like like filmmaking.
I love it.
Speaker 1: Also, look at this fucking shot. Look at the blues outside.
You can see the hint of red on the curtains.
I watched I watched all Mandalorian season three and it
was all muted, desaturated colors.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck? My can't shows look like this?
It was a gorgeous show.
Speaker 1: That was problem in video games for a while, like
the early twenty tens, like everything was like brown or
gray like all the it worked for like Gears of War,
but then everything was doing it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Next up, last episode, the Man in the mask Cat
tells Janet to ask Ben for the antidote to cure
Marco and Leaden uh but they follow Janet to Robbie's
place and capture Ben. Silvermain forces Ben to contact the Spider,
which is pretty funny.
Speaker 2: With Robbie posing as him.
Speaker 1: That was a good thing where they start to figure
out that Ben's the Spider and then Robbie shows up
doing a Nicholas cage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good on the phone talking to because
he just calls Robbie when he's like, call you for
the Spider, He's like, She's.
Speaker 2: Like, what are you doing. He's like, I'm doing this.
Speaker 1: After Leaden recognizes Ben from the war, which, by the way,
I think, uh, the mad scientist. They said, we weren't
sure it was you until we realize you changed your name.
I think that's cementing that he is Peter Parker. Silvermain
realizes Ben is the Spider and threw his cat to
make him confess. To protect Ben, cat reveals she portrayed
Silvermin be where Silverman can killer Robbie arrives dressed as
the Spider, Leading injects Robbie with the cure and electrocutes
sim then tries to persuade Marco to help overthrow Silvermain.
Speaker 2: I saw this coming from my way. I was like,
this guy is not He's not gonna be uh.
Speaker 1: Ben regains use of his webbing. I love that he
keeps trying to shoot the webs and coming out.
Speaker 4: Silverman at one point is like convinced that Ben is
the Spider, and so he points a gun at a
cat and it's basically like, you know, if you're not
the Spider, then I I kill a rat.
Speaker 2: If you are the Spider, you'll stop me, and I
got you.
Speaker 4: And he's like under the tables like, come on, come on,
remind me of the the first Toby reguards like go web.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't they hand motions and stuff like trying to
figure out fly fly Uh no, no, no, okay, uh
Robbie rise Well.
Speaker 1: So he tries to persuade Marco to help overthrow Silver
Rain Bembergaine's use of his webbing fights leading to Marco
while Cat tracks down and kills Silvermain. I love where
he's going through, like that hall of mirrors because they're
like in a theater or something that was cool chasing
and she just shoots him in the heart.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm really happy you're the one who killed me.
But he I hope they bring him back.
Speaker 4: Imagine like almost like you know Art decos, like you
know the Superman cartoon, like the kind of robot like
from like Metropolis and ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be cool. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be down to see that. Marco turns on
lead in after he attacks Cat, the Spider kills lead him.
Speaker 2: This is pretty good.
Speaker 1: So he like kind of shoots the electricity and turns
Sandman into a puddle of sand. But I love when
the Spider just picks him up and pros him in
front of the fucking train.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the fight, the final fight is probably one
of the best, like the highlights of the show.
Speaker 2: And yeah, they do a really good job.
Speaker 4: Like you know, there's like a role in like action
movies or whatever, like all your action needs to be motivated.
Speaker 2: Otherwise it's just you know, filler. It's just it's just
stuff happening. And this was really it almost felt like
an old stage play with where they were staging up
the the conflicts and the turns and stuff in the fight,
and you got like Sandman.
Speaker 4: Who still loves a cat, and so he eventually turns
on Megawatt to like, you know, try to take Mega
down and then Megawatt turns his arms and face to glass.
Speaker 2: That was dope. That was cool as hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Spider's like knocked out for a lot,
like a good portion of this fight. So yuh, he
gives the last antidote dose to Marco, sacrificing his only
chance to become human again so Cat and Marco can
be together.
Speaker 3: We're like, we're like Spider cuck am I Right.
Speaker 4: It felt very still like in Lie with like the
old Noirs, Like, yeah, the detective never really gets the
guy gets the girl. He just like, you know, kind
of keeps her warm until her shows not copy like
I guess it's just a hoe.
Speaker 3: Later, Robbie Lee Lobby.
Speaker 1: Robbie leaves the Daily Bugle to lead the Harlem Herald.
Morris wins reelection. Uh where am I at here? What happened? Uh?
And Ben and Janet renovate their office now called Riley
and Ruie's Investigations because she did do a lot of
work on this case. Apparently she was based off I
haven't seen any of the movies, but based off like
the Assistant and the Maltese Falcon. I probably should watch
like ten.
Speaker 2: Versions of Maltese Falcon's really good?
Speaker 3: Which one?
Speaker 1: There's like multiple ones, the Humphrey Bogart one. I guess
that would be the one to watch, but there was
like one before that. I think, yeah, and then it ends, uh,
really really good show. I had a great time with this.
I don't know why more people aren't like I think
just there aren't a lot of people watching it.
Speaker 2: I have a number one on Amazon right now, or maybe.
Speaker 1: There were people watching it but not talking about I
don't see many people talking about it.
Speaker 2: I think it's the binge model that really does this,
because like, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna put this on on like the wrap
up for this next month or whenever it finished airing,
and I didn't realize it all came out at once,
and I'm like, oh shit, yeah, I think the binge
model might have heard it.
Speaker 2: It's a great show. It's done well for Amazon.
Speaker 4: I think it will probably get a second season, but
that's just me speculating. I hope they ramp it up
because and do it week by week like the week
by week model is is honestly the only way to go, Like.
Speaker 1: It's back, baby, It's back.
Speaker 4: Binge it after the show's over, why do you need
to Yeah, why do you need all eight episodes at once?
Speaker 2: You can't watch them at once. You still got to
watch a.
Speaker 1: Piece by piece, Like there was a time for binging.
But that's like when a lot of those streaming shows
were like good and when people had money and free time. Yeah,
but then like too many like mediocre or bad shows
ended up binging. I'm like, I don't feel like sitting
all day watching this. I'll get around to it eventually,
And then a lot of times I don't get around
to it, I just stop watching altogether.
Speaker 2: Se Yeah, that was a weird choice to make this.
Uh All at once I thought that was odd, but
I really really really liked this.
Speaker 1: Uh probably the best live action Spider thing I've seen
in a lot. I mean, I know we said good
things about the MCO, but I'm including all the Spider
Man spinoffs, the Spider Man spinoffs.
Speaker 4: I would say this even probably ranks above at least
two of the MCU Spider Man movies.
Speaker 3: Probably.
Speaker 2: I think that Homecoming is probably the best of the three.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Look, I liked I liked No Way Home, but it
is the clunkiest of those, and I think that's because
it was a COVID production.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was cool seeing everyone together again. But again
that was a multiverse mostly for cameos. Like remember these
guys from the movie. You loved all of them, and
then people were like, well, not so much. The Andrew
Garfield guys. We didn't like them at all, and like, yeah,
you love.
Speaker 4: Got that Gwynn Stacy payoff, which was like, you know what,
This movie made me feel a little better.
Speaker 2: About at least parts of the amazing Spider Man movies.
Speaker 1: Dude, that was the weirdest thing because Andrew Garfield was
so good in Spider Man No Way Home that people
started falsely remembering those movies being and they're like, you
should get a third one, And I went no, I.
Speaker 2: Was like the first one. I never thought it was
amazing or great. It was called amazing, yeah, right, But
I liked, I know, the lizard didn't have a snout
and all that stuff. He was a little different, but.
Speaker 1: He looked like from the Mario movie. He did.
Speaker 2: But you know, I kind of dug it still. I like, uh,
I can't remember his name. He's on He's on the
House of the Dragon.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, he's got a hard name to pronounce. Been something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great actor. And he was very you know,
empathetic or sympathetic as as the lizard. So there was
a lot of good stuff in that movie.
Speaker 4: But both those movies, like even the second one, the
seconde is pure dog shit except for the Gwynn Stacy stuff,
the Peter and Gwinn Stacy stuff.
Speaker 1: Like the first one is like more of the same.
It was just like nothing new, and then the second
one was just garbagecause they were trying to set up
like fifty spinoffs yea, they cut out Mary Jane Watson.
They had what's her face play? Mary Jane Watson just
cut out all of her scenes, never to have seen
the light of day.
Speaker 3: But no, this was great.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them try other uh into the
spider Verse, like crossovers or a spinoffs. Yeah, that'd be cool.
I'd like to see, uh, would you watch a Peter
Porker show, the Spider Ham show.
Speaker 2: I would at least try it.
Speaker 4: I know it'd probably be animated, and I'm not a
huge fan of animation, but at least try because Peter
Porker was like when the highlights them.
Speaker 1: I would like to see the old man Spider Man.
That'd be pretty funny now that he's like a dad
and stuff. Usually I don't old characters, but I thought
he was funny in it.
Speaker 2: Dad Spider Man.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd like to see more crows. It was
like a cool this is like a cool thing. And again,
multiverse done right. This is what the multiverse should be
used for. Hey, let's take a character and like let's
free of cotton, new or what you would expect. Let's
put them in a different environment, change things up and
explore what that would be like I like those stories,
and I thought this was a great example of that,
and I hope more things fo Even though superheroes are
on their way down right now, Willever fully go away.
That's a sad thing. I think like they're trying to
course correct a lot of things, and there's like some
good superhero stuff now, but most people are just checked out,
like up too late.
Speaker 2: You guys did it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're back in the era of you gotta do
the tentpole or yeah, you know it's it's not really
like if you're not doing like the Big Three in DC,
no one really cares. Yeah, Like Supergirl looks fine, it
looks like a fun of movie, but no one gives
a shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean it's cool to see Lobo.
I like the Supergirl character. Hopefully they do it right.
I didn't read the book that they're basing off of,
but yeah, this was Uh, this was a good time,
Doctor Till, thank you so much for being on the show.
You know, doctor you know who else you think I
keep for going to do.
Speaker 2: This all our Patreon. I said I was gonna do.
Speaker 1: This a month ago, and I meant to do it
on like the last two live things I did, and
I forgot both times. So thank you to all our patrons.
There's all your beautiful names right there.
Speaker 2: I'm in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: You're in there somewhere.
Speaker 4: I had to like when you did the back Rooms
watch along, I was like, all right, I've been on
like the low tier for like a couple of months.
I gotta I gotta at wayst get jump up to
the eye tier.
Speaker 2: Watch the back rooms videos with them. It was a
good movie. It was good. It was good.
Speaker 1: It was good. Uh, but yeah, guys, get your super
chats in please. We only got three till I thought.
I thought that you were gonna bring that ministry up.
Speaker 2: I try, I tried. I threatened them. I told them
if they didn't show up, I would fire all of
them as my audience.
Speaker 1: And uh, do you think they were watching the beginning
and they assumed you died the first time?
Speaker 4: You probably probably they always just am I die every time?
Like I always come back. Guys, I never died. I
don't have any evidence that I will.
Speaker 1: So far, let's let's talk to some patrons.
Speaker 2: Uh, Corbin, Hello, Hardy's the only one, Uh whiped cream.
Speaker 1: Willie is walking in circles. We'll get together in the second.
Did you watch Spider Noir?
Speaker 7: I loved it.
Speaker 8: I'm a I'd say Nicholas Cage is probably my favorite actor,
unashamedly mm hmm. Even in the worst movie, he's still
you know, giving it as all no matter what. And
I think this seemed like the first thing in a
while that he really wanted to do, Like just it
sounds crazy on paper, but it's you know, Nick Cage
doing a Humphrey Boguart impression as a alcoholic Spider Man,
and it's like.
Speaker 7: You hear that on paper and it's like, no, that
that shouldn't work, but it does. It works so good.
Speaker 8: I love the fight scenes too and stuff. You can
tell that kind of the same with what they've been
doing with Batman lately. They definitely played the games, like
the bar scene where he's webbing them up to the
walls and he's.
Speaker 1: Like that.
Speaker 7: That part got me going.
Speaker 1: That was no way home.
Speaker 2: Literally took some of the fight moves from the Spider
Man game. Uh. I think when he like jumps up
the air webs and the yeah yeah, so yeah, they're
definitely doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for Batman to drop down from a
cargole and string someone up by one of his.
Speaker 2: Cables and fly away. Dude, that's all I did. In
the Arkham Games was like.
Speaker 3: Flyaway.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they kind of do that a little bit.
Speaker 8: There's like one snippet in BVS where an AFFLECKX getting
the Kryptonite that was loop down and you see the
glowing white eyes and he swoops back up, And that.
Speaker 2: Was only in the director's cut off, so I don't
even think that was in the theatrical cut.
Speaker 8: The main thing Zack Snyder didn't feel the need to
put in slow motion for some reason.
Speaker 2: All Batman, this Batman stuff got back to my my
weird uh leute war.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I think got the Snyder versus dead.
Speaker 2: We don't want the Snighter verse, we want the Spider
Noir verse.
Speaker 7: We want more more of this.
Speaker 8: Like I said, as a big Nicholas Cage fan, this
was awesome, and then as a Spider Man fan also like, yeah,
I had a blast with this.
Speaker 7: I watched it twice. I watched it in black and
white and I watched it in Dick crazy vision.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I am gonna put it back on again.
Speaker 2: Like when I'm like doing other stuff and just glance
up at it when it's in color, not to spoil it.
Speaker 8: And I may have missed it in dialogue, but there
is one detail in the last episode that from what
I could tell, maybe, like I said, maybe I missed
a dialogue piece, but the color actually he adds a
story detail that isn't in the black and white because
it's just you know, it's like you see it in
color and you go, oh, okay, like it was the
other of the color from earlier.
Speaker 2: Tell us what it was.
Speaker 3: We just talked about the whole show.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, Robbie.
Speaker 8: Robbie wears like a really flamboyant like orange peach suit. Okay,
and then in the last episode when Ben goes to
Robbie's apartment and he dresses up in one of Robbie's
suits while his suit's.
Speaker 7: Being whatever, and that's why Robbie shows up in the full.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I never remember that.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna have to watch that in color
then yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I, like I said, I might have missed the dialogue,
but yeah, when I watched it in color, I was like, oh, cool,
he's wearing Robbie's suit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it just shows how how much detail
they put in this show. It's it's a stupid Spider
Man gangster show, and they've put way more effort into
this than half these motherfucker is doing anything insane.
Speaker 10: It felt like if they had somehow they had the
effects that they have today back in the day, like
it legitimately fell true to the era, and I was so.
Speaker 2: Pleased with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Actually I talked to him. One thing that gets me
excited for The New Spider Man.
Speaker 1: I talked about this recently, so I heard like a
year ago it was directed by the guy did Shang
Chi and I went, oh, no, that movie was garbage.
The New Spider Man. However, that same guy did Marvel's
Wonderman show that came out a few months ago and
wonder Man.
Speaker 7: I haven't watched it yet, but listen. The reason why
is because I heard Josh Gadd was.
Speaker 1: In it, and I said, no, I hate Josh Gadd too,
but they made him very unlikable. Wonder Man was great,
and I'm like, oh, they must have gave him like actually,
like creative freedom. They must have. I don't know what
they did during shang Chi, but that was Shrake garbage
and Wonderman's like one of the best Marvel things do
in a word. So I'm like, oh, maybe they're trusting
directors again, something they should have done for a while.
Speaker 7: So that.
Speaker 2: What was that wild approach?
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that they don't still want to like just
piece movies together and not have a script going. And
I think they said, like, uh, Tom Holland worked on
The Odyssey and he was like calling Sony He's.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, I was just on like a real movie.
Could we actually have like a script?
Speaker 1: And God, that's yeah, yeah, I just saw how like
Christopher Nolan makes movies, what the fuck are we doing?
Like Eve though the movies are fine, it's like, how
about we have like an idea, we commit to something
ahead of time.
Speaker 8: Strange strangely enough, That's exactly why I'm so excited about Playface.
Like I feel hypocritical because I hated the Sony Cinematic
Spider Man Universe without Spider Man, so I'm like, I
don't really want a Batman villain without a Batman movie.
But the fact that they weren't even gonna make that
movie until you know, the idea got brought to them
and it was like, you know, I'm blanking and it's
it's a very good director.
Speaker 7: I don't know why I'm blanking right now.
Speaker 1: Well, he's yea Mike planning is like developing the story.
I don't think he's directing. I think someone.
Speaker 2: Which is fine.
Speaker 7: But I mean that's that's good. That's I will say exactly.
He came to James Gunn and the Saffron with with
the I want to make.
Speaker 8: This, you know, and.
Speaker 1: I uh, I didn't really care about Joker twenty nineteen,
but it made a billion dollars.
Speaker 3: People loved it.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: And the Penguin spinoff was really really good.
Speaker 3: So I think they have like a better I huh,
I said it was so good.
Speaker 2: I was just good.
Speaker 3: I feel like they have a.
Speaker 1: Better idea of how to do like a spin off
of a character, a little bit better than Sony. Sony
was like, what if all these bad guys were actually
the good guys. I'm like, all right, well, it's got
to be a little bit more than that.
Speaker 2: I really hope.
Speaker 8: I think like, I feel like it's so hard to
make a punisher thing like I feel like I heard
Gill say it, because it's like either have to redeem
the character, you have.
Speaker 7: To you know, kill him, Like those are you, like
your two options.
Speaker 8: I think there's a third option you make like a
like a misleading slasher movie, and then Punishers is the
villain and you just have fun with it.
Speaker 7: You just let him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be cool, like a horror movie from
the bad guy's point of view of like the Punisher
coming after.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I think that's how you do a Punisher
lead movie from now on, Like that's the only way
to do it without yeah, like just ending it.
Speaker 4: I hope for the clay Face movie like after shoot,
like I hope they shot like because there's gonna be
references to the James Gunn universe apparently like a.
Speaker 2: Like a couple because it's supposed to be in that universe.
I hope all those scenes they filled alternate versions where
instead of the James Gunn universe, it's in the Batman universe.
Speaker 1: I heard there was his logo on the um that
was James gun addressed that. He said, like that shouldn't
have been there. That was like an accident or something.
Speaker 4: Multi million dollars sets accidents. It's something you can easily remove.
But anyway, Corbyn, thank you for coming on. Thank you
for sharing your opinion. Thank you for being one of
our many, many patrons. There there you are, right there.
Speaker 1: Whip Cream Willie was walking around the back rooms and
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Speaker 1: Mask off the All Apologies podcast. Trucker, Andy, can you
switch to color? I prefer that, you know what, since
we're at the end of the showflet's.
Speaker 2: I think I can do that too. Put my prison
back out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do. Pop, I'm gonna make
the colors pop even more. There we go, Oh wow,
I'm way more colorful than usual. This actually looks pretty good.
I should do this more often.
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Speaker 3: Ask, where's Kyle Brazil?
Speaker 1: Don't do.
Speaker 2: Kyle on this show?
Speaker 1: To take really long time to say English sentence? You
know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Why does it sound Japanese? You know I can't do Brazilian?
So you were like Kyle's massade.
Speaker 11: I like Kyle, but sometimes I'm like finished to say, uh,
is that all the superst man until your band from
the show that was wait?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm sorry, I'm totally I'm totally forgetting.
I'm forgetting about the Rumble chat.
Speaker 2: I'm so stupid.
Speaker 1: Let's pop out the Rumble chat. I'm sure how many
Rumble rants do.
Speaker 2: You think we got?
Speaker 1: Doctor till.
Speaker 2: Like two? What ye of little faith?
Speaker 1: Let's see, I got the chat here for Rumble and
not one single comment at all, one person watching and
that is me watching right now.
Speaker 2: You know, one way could you get up your Rumble
presence is when you do your commentary tapings. Do it
like a premium string or like only people who are
subscribers or have Rumble premium.
Speaker 1: Can watch un till they don't have Rumble Premium. They don't,
I do, I will. I was like a Rumble partner
for like a second, but I didn't realize they like
want you to stream constantly to stay in that program.
Speaker 2: Oh dude, they actually pay really well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I couldn't get anyone to watch our Rubble.
We were doing the thing where I'm like, guys, I
need ten viewers so I can do a commercial for like,
I don't know, Liberty Coffee or some bullshit about that.
Speaker 4: Rumble does this thing called creator program to where as
long as you hit the metrics doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Really, I don't have time to stream as much as
they want. I'm like, but I'm uploading videos all the time.
Is I not count them?
Speaker 2: Nope?
Speaker 1: They only want live streamers, political live streamers. It's one
of those like if you don't have an audience following you,
it's a waste of time. So Rumble is basically a
hard drive for me where I store episode in case
they get.
Speaker 2: Taken off YouTube.
Speaker 3: Rumble dot coms like.
Speaker 1: Doctor till now while I wait for fifteen other super
chats to come in, I'm sure they're on their way.
Tell us again where we can find you and what
you'll be talking about this week? That does bob Ethan
Ralph or Scott.
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it's a low cow. You know.
Speaker 4: We we find funny things and funny people internet to
make fun of and make fun of each other, a
lot of arguing.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 4: And then Burnt Popcorn, which is the movie podcast I
do with Kid of the North and simper reloaded on
the Burn Popcorn channel.
Speaker 2: In a Backrooms episode, I believe.
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, So this last Backrooms episode, I literally had
a tornado forming over me the entire time, and it
was such a prevalent thing in the episode. It actually
made the edit and we watched a weatherman's studio burned down.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: One other question you were telling me Widow's Bay. Should
I be watching that?
Speaker 2: Yes, you should be watching. Everybody should be watching Widows.
Speaker 1: Bay, and from it from like four seasons and now
right from is.
Speaker 4: Worth it it's next season's the final season and that'll
be like a year and a half, two years, so
you got plenty of time.
Speaker 3: From all right, it's a Harold Perow.
Speaker 4: New Yes, it it's done by some of the guys
that worked on Loss, but these guys swear to God,
they swear to God that they.
Speaker 2: They have like a real ending in mind.
Speaker 4: And so it's one of those things where I'm like,
all right, we'll see, but so far it's been really
fucking good, dude, and it's it's one of those shows
that like it's half horror, half mystery and then like
all fucking with your head.
Speaker 1: I keep confusing that show with that show Evil that
ran for a few seasons, which I think is on
Paramount Plus.
Speaker 2: Did that end?
Speaker 1: That looks like it ended?
Speaker 2: But did it? Was it canceled or did it get
like an actual ending?
Speaker 1: I'll see. Oh, we got two more super chats. Who
could they be from?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: What is aj Whizzle for? Four ninety nine looney Tunes dollars?
He's got that communist money from the UK? Tony, you
are the Tucker Carlson of movie reviewers?
Speaker 2: Did you ever see Aj Whizzles.
Speaker 1: Hit piece? He's like Qan on edit of my show.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I need to see that sounds awesome.
Speaker 1: You know what, I might still have it.
Speaker 3: I might still have it.
Speaker 1: Hold only look for that. I was fucking dying when
he said so. From a couple of years ago, Uh,
where do I give me one second? I know it's
it's hack spelled h a Q. I found it.
Speaker 2: Testfold Neckbeard on YouTube. You're a monster, Tony.
Speaker 1: But people think don't know why he used my proper
Christian name, But.
Speaker 2: Tony from the movies, he's an alpha. Is an alpha
lore girls.
Speaker 1: With my internet Andrew Tainer movie reviews.
Speaker 3: You're disgusting.
Speaker 1: Tony like a right wing YouTuber, the douchebag, you know,
movie critic, anti woke, go woke, go broke.
Speaker 2: Raminism, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I saw a woman using a computer and I went, oh, no,
that was me with Jordan Peterson.
Speaker 3: Don't you remember that famous.
Speaker 1: Feminist.
Speaker 4: Probably you're the you anoun of movies. Does that mean
you were also made up by Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 2: But I don't know.
Speaker 1: JK Rowling terrible novelist, great tweets, and I agree with
every one of them. Tony, what's the new thing?
Speaker 2: I forget like a lot of like of the context
of these clons.
Speaker 3: That's why Kyle Rittenhouse is the new thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got I got some comments that you were
some kind of supremacist. You were qing on or just
to support this virus was designed in a lab and
it got out of hand.
Speaker 2: That was Blaye too. I was talking about Blade too
is the reaper virus from Blate and I gotta I
gotta give a shout out real quick.
Speaker 4: Tony Royce and Pesse are the only reason why I
know who you are from several years ago.
Speaker 2: I've actually been a fan of yours for you know,
three or four years now.
Speaker 3: We're in a cinematacre.
Speaker 2: Dude, No, I never watched some massir.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: I I learned who you are because you were on
day Wave Nice back during the COVID era.
Speaker 2: I watched day Wave like every day. Then I made
the mistake show.
Speaker 1: I talk about the election results. I mean, we're seeing
the results of Johanna's voting.
Speaker 2: They're very violent. I think he's doing a nice job.
Is he still got the show gone? He added active
So im out there dresses a Nazi like dancing. Yeah,
but Nazis are like kind of Tony Louso. Tonight one of.
Speaker 3: The funniest things.
Speaker 1: I watched that was fresh in my head because I
was I was scrolling for something else. I scrolled past
like mad, I gotta watch that video. God, that's so great.
Oh well, doctor Till we got a ten dollar chat.
Speaker 2: From that's a poster. That's not me. I don't have money,
look at me.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on, no problem.
Speaker 2: I only got a nickel to my name.
Speaker 3: See uh oh, here we go Burt Popcorn Podcast.
Speaker 2: Definitely thanks Ken, Thanks will do.
Speaker 1: I will band till forf We gotta come up.
Speaker 2: With something for you.
Speaker 4: Have you on the show sometime, Tony, which is a
lot more a malleable to your schedule because we we
pre record, we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't do live think.
Speaker 1: I think tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Speaking of other shows that I'm on, I believe tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Or the day after. I will be back on Dissect
that film we talked about Guyver too dark hero.
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's that's a deep cut.
Speaker 1: I went back actually a few years back. We did
Guiver one together, but I loved Guiver two because I
haven't seen in a very long time. June twelfth, it'll
come out June twelfth. You ever have a thing where
you rewatch, You watch a movie and you go, oh
my god, I remembered a part of this movie and
I could never remember its name. And it's been haunting
me for years.
Speaker 3: You ever have that, Yeah, Pummetmaster for me, Okay, Guy Verto.
Speaker 1: There's a moment where they're trying to open a door
and they keep showing the back of the main character's
neck like throbbing because he's like a mutant dude. And
for whatever reason, I've always remembered that scene. I saw
that scene as a kid and I never knew what
the movie was and I wasn't watching. I'm like, this
is it. I'm like, thirty something years I thought I
made up a movie in my.
Speaker 2: Head, and I'm like, this is.
Speaker 1: So Cohen watch Guiver two Dark hero On dissect that film,
subscribe to the Burnt Popcorn podcast and Doctor Chill Ministry
of Dude.
Speaker 2: Hell y am, we just dropped that grooms today.
Speaker 1: Oo go watch it now. And uh yeah, that is
it from us everyone, Thank you for watching this live episode.
Sorry for the technical issues on both of our right,
I'm glad it was both of us.
Speaker 2: I'm glad it was both of us. So even it
was Mega Watch. He was trying to get view on
the show.
Speaker 3: We didn't respect the Spider.
Speaker 2: Don't you see that The Spider is.
Speaker 1: Hey, till, can I tell you something about myself. Sure
I could eat a peach for hours.
Speaker 2: Jesus fun that is doesn't the most creepy and like
was like fucking alpha line.
Speaker 1: Ever Wait wait, wait, we can't leave yet because someone
said someone went on twitch to say read your rumble donus.
Speaker 3: So someone on twitch.
Speaker 2: A rumble rant. Yeah, is so much fun.
Speaker 1: Fat kech Boy for one dollars, Till's Godzilla movie collection
is greater than Tony's thanks to me.
Speaker 2: Fat keck Boy is the dude. I've got it. Sorry,
that's my tamourine. I've got this motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, I have that right behind me.
Speaker 2: Real quick.
Speaker 1: Did you get that recently?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 2: A few months back? Now?
Speaker 3: Okay, Uh, I'm gonna do you a favor.
Speaker 2: I've already done it. I've already done it. You know
about the Blu Ray disc, then hold on, I'll be
right back. I'm gonna go grab it because I have
the sleeve from the artist who did the artwork. I
don't have the sleeve, but I got the pack.
Speaker 1: But you go grab it.
Speaker 3: Go grab it because I always have to tell people
about this.
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna get the Criterion, show a Godzilla
Blu Ray coffee table book thing. You gotta take the
discs out. The glue only lasts for like a year,
and the discs will fall into the case and the
glue will get on them. It was a big thing
when it happened, and everyone had to go order. As
you're about to see, they had to order an eight
disc Blu ray case.
Speaker 2: Yeah I got I got a second one.
Speaker 10: Just sit.
Speaker 2: Let check this out. This is the front. Oh yeah,
and then on the back. You could pay ten dollars
extra to have it signed, but he just signed anyways.
Speaker 1: Nice, So yeah, I've got ten dollars.
Speaker 2: That's not bad for like that goes great on your shelf.
It's perfect. Yeah. But yeah it's the whole Show era
thing on the spine.
Speaker 3: M M.
Speaker 1: But yeah, please do that if you get that. Like
I remember, Kaylee got it. A few of my friends
got it, and right away I'm like, get the case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you were the one who told me to.
I was like, you know what's yeah, I didn't think
about that. So so many Guyszilla people bought it right
away like me. And then a year later it hit
Twitter and like I remember, I like shared it and
tweeted about it and Shoe for movie.
Speaker 1: Dumpster saw my tweet and went and bought like a
thing right away. It was like the whole thing. But anyway,
that is it from us everyone. We're gonna officially end
the show now, goodbye.
Speaker 2: I didn't ye