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Speaker 2: On very well?
Speaker 1: Are you absolutely fantastic and very excited to share a
conversation with you because you bring up a lot of
subjects inside this book that really do pertain to where
we presently are, and I just think that it's going
to be a great conversation starter because people are going
to bring their own personal experiences into it.
Speaker 2: That's great, I think lot you think that way. Yeah,
I think the timing for the release of this book
is not about.
Speaker 1: Did you know that going into this project though, or
was it something that you just felt like we need
to be talking about this, and I'm going to be
the activator, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean this book. I mean, we've been working on
this book for now more than ten years.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: So this has been my preostication, I would say, for years,
you know, and I from that point of view, like
you know, you know, if you put the world in
the frame book that I said on this book, and
you can understand how we got into the mess that
we're into that right, So, and it definitely didn't happen overnight.
It's been building up for a long time. And I
think you know, what I wanted to basically bringing out
in this book is the idea that everybody is responsible
way and I think from that point of view, I think,
you know, at this point, maybe about has been lost,
but I think it's very important to take this debate
directly to the general readers to help them make sense
what's really going on, you know, regardless of their background,
so that we can make any smarter decision of our
next step, because like you know, we could be heading
into World War three at the rate of which we're going.
I mean, as you can see what's happening over this
Eram business, and as you know, I mean Israel. I
think this is why I think, you know, because this
whole topic about globalization is so misunderstood, okay, and it's
been in way manipulated by political forces on both sides,
that I think that, you know, I think it's time
that someone like me, who's a product globalization, I think,
you know, I like to think that I'm more qualified
than most people in terms of writing this book to
really not take a political stance, of an ideological stance,
but simply set up the truth in a way that
answer the can be understood by everybody. Again, to me,
the most important about globalization is the fact that it
touched everybody everywhere, regardless whether they know or not. And
I think, you know, especially at this particular moment in time,
like for example, you know, I live in Israel, right
and in Something that I've been talking about over the
last couple of weeks is the fact that a lot
of people don't realize the war in Iran. It is
absoually the first parts of the war between the United
States and China. The reason why has managed to fight
back as hard as they have it has lots to
do with the help they've been getting from China, but
It's interesting because only two months ago the Chinese were
very reluctant to provide you run with the strategic backstop.
It was not until drums you know, a lot of
actions against Venezuela that China decided to reassess, you know,
the risk of staying on the sideline. So I think
from that point of view, again, what we need to
understand is that there's cause and this effect, and so
from that point of view, we have to be able
to go all the way back to the beginning. It
was very important for everybody to understand what this is about,
because there's no question if you look at wor War
one go will two other wo wolves in the past,
you know, we sort of sleep walk ourselves into the thing.
So I decided to use the device of a novel. Okay,
something again everybody can understand. People will be entertained by
a people will find it interesting. Ready, connect the doctors,
and that's really the as here in this book to
help people figure out how do how you know, basically,
how do we get ourselves into the speak message?
Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with David Wu right
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What people are doing right now is there either going
to Google or they're going to chat GPT, or they're
going to block and they're looking for answers, when in
fact you're sitting here writing it inside your book and
you're writing it in real life terms where they can
have a better understanding it at the pace that they're
doing it, and not something that's just slammed into a
digital effort.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. I mean, I think listen,
I don't want to I'm not dismissing Google and whatever
it is Facebook. The problem is that these days, you know,
it's too easy to become an opinion maker. Everybody you
know who's read three books that decided they want to
become an opinion maker. The problem is that said there
are more opinions and there are facts, and that is
I think the biggest failing of the whole digital media,
that actually that people can say whatever they want to say,
you know, you can say it. Well was first my
men rights and so and so forth. But the point
here is that you know, I think from fortunate but
I think you know, there's something to be said about
decentralizing basically the narrative. But I think this is also
very dangerous, and I'm just saying, like listen, I was
born in this work of common parents. Okay, I grew
up in Taiwan, but I was educated for the most
part of the US and then and then I got
my teach team in international trade at Club University. My
first job was working for the International Monetary Fund. My
first job in the private sector was actually in London
working for a city bank covering all of emerging markets.
My last job on Wall Street was the head of
Global Interest Rates, Currencies, Emerging Markets Income Research, where I
was responsible for the bank's forecast for over one hundred
and fifty countries. I think, you know, I've been through
hundreds of countries. I mean, I was very lucky. My
jobs has actually introduced me a lot of people at
different walks of life. I feel like I want, you know.
When I retired, my wife said to me, you got
to basically get something back, Okay, and I'd fit to
write a novel drawing my own personal experience, but in
a very broad way so that I wanted, you know again,
you know, I would be I would be welcome. I
would welcome in, I mean sort of push back my book.
But I wrote this book in as honest a way
as I could because I feel connected, you know, about
what's been going on in the last twenty years. We
don't throw out the baby with the bath water, Okay.
I'm also saying that, you know, there's a big difference
between globalization and globalism. I'm against globalism, but I'm not
against globalization, and there's a very very big difference between
the two. So I'm just saying, like, you know, in
a way, it's unfortunately, I think the world's gone to
this point. It's a very dangerous point, and I don't
really how much I can do to move the needle.
But this is my attempt of trying to help, basically
people to have more honest dialogue. And I think, again,
you know, like this is why I put in a
novel so that everybody can relate. I'm guarantee you there
are hundreds of characters in the book. I'm fairly certain
everybody picking up this book will be able to find
somebody they can identify with. And I think that is
also what I'm trying to do, because in a way
that globalize what's going on in the world today. It's
not somebody else's problem. It's all our problem, whether you
know it or not.
Speaker 1: I love where your heart is. Where can people go
to find out about you, David? Because ten minutes with
you is not going to be enough time. They need
to go in there and dive in there, and so
they can make their way to a bookstore. I want
them to physically put their hands on a real book
this time around.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically, first of all, you know, I now
have a YouTube channel, so in case people want to
know what I think about politics, geopolitics, economics, and technology,
they can look me up on YouTube. David Rumbounds, Okay,
you know it's great, so there's no obligation. I did
this in order to again to engage people in you know,
sort of a very honest but also rigorous dialogue about
the four majors choices driving the world today. And if
you want to read them about me, you know, it's
my Wikipedia page. You can read up about me, you know,
like just last last month and Your Time has published
an article I wrote about my relationship with my wife,
who's my co author, who's twenty years older than me,
was published in The Modern Love section of the New
York Times. If you are subscribe to New York Times,
check that out. Because this is about our relationship, our
loves and but she's my co author. I couldn't have
written the book without her, so in a way, it
also brings together our background. What makes this book different
because our background could not be anymore just similar. And
then you can find a book right now are It's
available for pre order on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, you know, Stephen,
Target and Walmart. The book will be coming out answered
the in a week's time on March thirty. First. I
love it.
Speaker 1: Will you got to come back to this show anytime
in the future. I want to continue this story growing forward.
Speaker 2: Okay, sir, absolutely, Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Would you be brilliant today?
Speaker 2: Thank you