Speaker 1: Hi, Hi everybody.
Speaker 2: This is Kimberly and this is Katie and you're listening
Speaker 2: to Pink Shade podcast.
Speaker 3: I did our intro for a Date with date Line.
Speaker 2: Surprise.
Speaker 3: Mary Payne is still a sickly, little, cheeky little bitch
Speaker 3: and she is at home.
Speaker 2: She's coloring.
Speaker 3: She's a delicate Southern bell and she had to take
Speaker 3: the vapors. She had the vapors and she had to
Speaker 3: take to her bed and she's doing much better though.
Speaker 2: She is just resting now.
Speaker 3: So Katie and I are taking over ninety day. Hey, hey, hey, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't if it's hey or if it's he all
Speaker 3: like a donkey?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Have you seen those many donkeys? Have you seen them? Yeah?
Speaker 3: They're really cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ten out of ten, I need one delivered to
Speaker 2: my house. I've almost got all of are convinced that
Speaker 2: it's it's a go. Okay, Well we'll see about that.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Follow us on Instagram to see if Katie actually gets
Speaker 3: a mini donkey. So we are date date Line and
Speaker 3: follow Pink Shade because she really wants the followers. That
Speaker 3: would make her feel so good. Mary pain if she
Speaker 3: got more followers on Instagram, she clocks it. She knows
Speaker 3: the number and she's probably checking it now ten times
Speaker 3: a day from her bed.
Speaker 2: So follow her. Let's go do this for her. Four.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we are talking about ninety day happily ever
Speaker 3: after episode two. Katie has watched this show on and
Speaker 3: off only when Mary Payne needs her to fill in.
Speaker 3: And so, but I think you know all of these
Speaker 3: people except for maybe Tiger Lily and ad non correct.
Speaker 2: Oh those say that, I think are they knew?
Speaker 3: And Burial they're very new. This is their second season.
Speaker 3: They were on before the ninety Days, so they should
Speaker 3: not be unhappily ever after. They should be on ninety
Speaker 3: ninety day, except they got married in Jordan, where he's from, so.
Speaker 2: They are ninety day the other way.
Speaker 3: She's not living there, she's living here, so they, I
Speaker 3: guess technically are here. But really they're just throwing all
Speaker 3: caution to the wind, and Matt Sharp is just trying
Speaker 3: to mess with our heads because on our last season
Speaker 3: of Before the ninety Day, no, the last season of
Speaker 3: ninety Day, which is like ninety days to get married,
Speaker 3: we had a couple going to Mexico that was part
Speaker 3: of the throttle and they weren't even getting married yet,
Speaker 3: so it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: So that's right, So sorry, hold on before we get started,
Speaker 2: just housekeeping that couple that I am not familiar with,
Speaker 2: Tiger Lily.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, baby, I love baby.
Speaker 2: They do not it feels like Happily ever After, in
Speaker 2: my experience, is generally our most explosive couples. Yeah, why
Speaker 2: do we care about them? What about their relationship? Is
Speaker 2: interesting because from what I've seen from these two episodes,
Speaker 2: it's really boring.
Speaker 3: They were insane. She went to Jordan and married him
Speaker 3: on the first day that she met him. Knew nothing
Speaker 3: about Islam or Jeordanian men, or that women were treated
Speaker 3: differently in other parts of the world or in America.
Speaker 3: He would want her to cover up going to the
Speaker 3: pool and she was like what baby, And then he
Speaker 3: would say, well, women are not the same as men,
Speaker 3: and she was like, what are you talking about, baby,
Speaker 3: Like it had never occurred to her that women are
Speaker 3: treated differently. She came from like a really bad marriage
Speaker 3: and has two children that we've never met, and she
Speaker 3: decided to marry a hot guy twenty years younger than
Speaker 3: her on Instagram.
Speaker 2: And he's twenty years younger than her.
Speaker 3: He's like twenty years younger than her and he's in
Speaker 3: his early twenties. And why does she she has a
Speaker 3: ton of money, Yes, because her ex husband very rich.
Speaker 3: And so in the first episode of last season, she's
Speaker 3: buying a twenty thousand dollars watch for ad Non, but
Speaker 3: we never see her actually give it to him, so
Speaker 3: we can't tell how much is like fake and how
Speaker 3: much is real, Like does she really have as much
Speaker 3: money she pretends to have?
Speaker 2: And then she puts on where people like or like
Speaker 2: rent private jests.
Speaker 3: And then she goes she does this fake baby voice,
Speaker 3: but then she'll drop it occasionally when she's talking to
Speaker 3: production and it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, and then exactly.
Speaker 3: And then at the tell all she was like covered up,
Speaker 3: like had a thing draped over her head, like she
Speaker 3: had converted, but it wasn't like a full burka, but
Speaker 3: it was like she.
Speaker 2: Was she was covering her head, okay.
Speaker 3: And she was pregnant and sitting there so like just quietly,
Speaker 3: like demure, mindful, and he was attacking all the other
Speaker 3: couples in like the rudest, most obnoxious way, and she
Speaker 3: was like, baby, you're so funny. Baby, like fully, like passive.
Speaker 3: It was the weirdest thing. And now she's acting like
Speaker 3: he can't act like that in America, Like women have
Speaker 3: rights here, and we're like, okay, we're going to see
Speaker 3: And he wanted all control of all the finances, and
Speaker 3: he won't let her be alone with a man, like
Speaker 3: he wanted her to switch all of her doctors from
Speaker 3: men to women because he didn't trust any her seeing
Speaker 3: a male doctor. She wasn't allowed to be alone with
Speaker 3: her hairdresser crews, the guy with the dreads and like,
Speaker 3: so he would it was just like they have to
Speaker 3: have a chaperone, like it's it was a lot, and
Speaker 3: she just they had never discussed any of it before
Speaker 3: she got there and married him on the first day.
Speaker 2: Long have they been talking before? She four months? Okay,
Speaker 2: should we start with them. Let's start with them. We're
Speaker 2: already talking about them. Let's yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh, she had analyzed his handwriting over zoom or however
Speaker 3: they were talking over FaceTime, and so she's like, I
Speaker 3: feel like I know him because they analyze who's handwriting. Okay,
Speaker 3: but you never talked about finances. Great, he's going to
Speaker 3: be a stepdad to your kids, and he's old, they're
Speaker 3: under teenagers, they're like they're they're they're like maybe ten.
Speaker 2: Ish with her full time.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's unclear. We think there's like a shared custody situation.
Speaker 3: Doesn't talk about Yes, she doesn't really talk about them
Speaker 3: or her ex very much, except that he was incredibly controlling.
Speaker 3: He didn't let her have any friends. That that's why
Speaker 3: her only friends are part of her glam team. She
Speaker 3: has like her stylist, her makeup artist, her hairstylist.
Speaker 2: Those are her friends. Why does she have a team
Speaker 2: an influencer question mark.
Speaker 3: She really leaned into the trad wife like Muslim wife
Speaker 3: thing after their season on Instagram, and she was like
Speaker 3: trolling people and she would say things like women should
Speaker 3: just be submissive to their husbands and that's the way
Speaker 3: it should be. It works better that way. But like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if she believes any of it or
Speaker 3: she's just poking the bear so she can get more followers,
Speaker 3: and so it's just it's a mess.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Tiger Lily forty one, Dallas, Texas ad non I
Speaker 3: didn't write down his age. I believe he's twenty three ish.
Speaker 2: I totally I missed that use. Okay, and he's like
Speaker 2: a model question mark in Jordan.
Speaker 3: So also there was an epic scene of him with
Speaker 3: his guy friends before his wedding and they were at
Speaker 3: some type of bathhouse getting massages and there was lots
Speaker 3: of hands going everywhere, and we were like, this seems homoerrotic,
Speaker 3: like he yeah, and doing like massages like before the
Speaker 3: wedding like bachelor.
Speaker 2: And I know what a bath house is in America.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. Where is he from Jordan? Jordan? Yeah,
Speaker 2: what it is in Jordan? I would have to do
Speaker 2: some research. Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So we are starting in the smack dab of
Speaker 3: their relationship in the future where they're fighting and he's
Speaker 3: saying I'm the man, I do what I want and
Speaker 3: she says, I can't trust you, baby, And then we
Speaker 3: see four months earlier, pregnant Tiger Lily is weed whacking
Speaker 3: the yard of this cabin that they bought six months pregnant,
Speaker 3: and Shay and Cruz, her makeup artist and hairdresser, who
Speaker 3: are her friends that she pays, come over and they
Speaker 3: do not like adn On. They went with her to
Speaker 3: Jordan as chaperones. You may have seen a clip of
Speaker 3: them doing her makeup on the plane, like curling her
Speaker 3: hair in the aisles of the plane with all the
Speaker 3: other passengers around spraying hair spray.
Speaker 2: It was a lot.
Speaker 3: So they didn't like how conservative he was, and he
Speaker 3: yelled at her and like one time she took four
Speaker 3: hours to get ready and he yelled at her.
Speaker 2: That was valid, But they don't like him.
Speaker 3: So they come to the cabin. She shows them around.
Speaker 3: It still has tons of renovations before she can move in.
Speaker 3: She shows them the fancy twelve thousand dollars toilet that
Speaker 3: she bought two of. She accidentally sprays Shay with the bidet,
Speaker 3: and Shay is pretending to be a good sport about
Speaker 3: it but actually hates her, and Tiger Lily says, it's
Speaker 3: an expensive water filtration system, so it's like bottled waters
Speaker 3: dollar toilet. Well, you should be embarrassed about twelve thousand
Speaker 3: dollars toilet in your log cabin.
Speaker 2: Also, that's why the day also the day Tiger Lily
Speaker 2: seems like she might be willing to invest in a
Speaker 2: small startup company.
Speaker 3: Mm Lily could make the day mate happen. Yeah, keep
Speaker 3: that dream alive. So she they ask if ednon knows
Speaker 3: how much she's spent on the toilet and she said, no,
Speaker 3: he didn't really ask about the money because they don't
Speaker 3: talk about money. But we enjoy the finer things in life.
Speaker 3: It's a luxurious log cabin.
Speaker 2: So a vacation home.
Speaker 3: No, they plan to like live there. She was living
Speaker 3: in an apartment before.
Speaker 2: It was weird. I don't know whar is she in Missouri, Texas?
Speaker 2: Where is she Dallas?
Speaker 3: Dallas, Texas? So they met on social media. They got
Speaker 3: married a few months later in Jordan. First day that
Speaker 3: they met, she says they were meant for each other.
Speaker 3: She got pregnant two months later because she flew over
Speaker 3: on a bank trip so that they could get pregnant
Speaker 3: and it worked. So they tried to get pregnant like
Speaker 3: on purpose, before he was in America and before they
Speaker 3: had fully discussed finances or children or how many children
Speaker 3: he wanted. She just wants one because she's already forty
Speaker 3: one and she has two children at home. So the
Speaker 3: next day she picks him up in her matte black
Speaker 3: lambeau with a bunch of black balloons. And she says,
Speaker 3: at the beginning, Adnon was okay with her not being Muslim,
Speaker 3: but lately, he's acting like he wants her to convert.
Speaker 3: We've never seen this before on Fiance.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? Why would he do that.
Speaker 3: Why would he possibly do that? Why would he mislead
Speaker 3: her and make it seem like sod? We've never We've
Speaker 3: seen it on every season there's been Mary.
Speaker 2: Payne and I discussed.
Speaker 3: I think there's been one Muslim guy who was fine
Speaker 3: with it, and that is Rebecca and si Ed And
Speaker 3: I don't think he cares if she converts.
Speaker 2: Is he practicing? Probably not unsure?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but they're on diaries and she thought he
Speaker 3: was cheating.
Speaker 2: It was the whole thing. Oh no, I'm glad they're
Speaker 2: still together.
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, they actually moved back to Tunisia for a while,
Speaker 3: but then I think they're back in America. So she
Speaker 3: feels blindsided because she did no research whatsoever on his
Speaker 3: religion or culture, so she doesn't understand that it would
Speaker 3: be important to him. She was fine with their baby
Speaker 3: being Muslim, but she is Christian and her kids are Christian,
Speaker 3: so she's like, that's what I thought we were going
Speaker 3: to do. So he he is giving up his whole
Speaker 3: life with his mom and his fifteen brothers and sisters
Speaker 3: in Jordan.
Speaker 2: Now, he also portrayed that he was.
Speaker 3: A bit of a feminist because his dad left his
Speaker 3: mom and was a jerk, and she like single raised
Speaker 3: all fifteen of his kids. So he was sort of
Speaker 3: portrayed himself as like girl power, but for like five seconds,
Speaker 3: and then it was like, you can't show your body
Speaker 3: and you can't be alone with a man because women's
Speaker 3: bodies are evil and they will corrupt the man.
Speaker 2: So also from because he is a practicing Muslim, right,
Speaker 2: these are traditions that are held.
Speaker 3: In yes, but his mom doesn't really practice, and it
Speaker 3: doesn't seem like his sisters practice that strictly. So he
Speaker 3: seemed it is on him because when they talked to
Speaker 3: the mom, the mom was like, no, you have to
Speaker 3: respect her. What your wife says goes kind of and
Speaker 3: he was like, no, I think we're misinterpreting.
Speaker 2: I think it's not the same. I don't okay, okay. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So she arrives at the airport to meet daddy. We're
Speaker 3: gonna meet daddy, and she's very nervous and her feet
Speaker 3: hurt because she chose to wear slide like heals sandals
Speaker 3: when she's six months pregnant and com on, she sees
Speaker 3: her baby. I love you so.
Speaker 2: Much, babe. She starts crying, and she.
Speaker 3: Starts crying, and then he kisses her stomach and it's
Speaker 3: very sweet, but not really and then he says he
Speaker 3: was traveling for twenty seven hours. He's just so happy
Speaker 3: he's finally with his wife and his baby, and he's
Speaker 3: saying hello to her stomach and listening for an answer.
Speaker 3: He can be kind of funny, like he could be
Speaker 3: a tiny bit charming, but then he was mostly a
Speaker 3: jerk on the tello, Like he would occasionally have a
Speaker 3: one liner that was funny, but it is in a
Speaker 3: jerky way, and so we didn't fall for it.
Speaker 2: We did not like him. I think we've solved the puzzle,
Speaker 2: by the way, Yeah, by what you have described here
Speaker 2: to me on this day and what I have seen
Speaker 2: on the screen. That tell All was filmed after this
Speaker 2: was shot.
Speaker 3: Yes, correct, because he was in.
Speaker 2: America, So that tell All was shot after this season
Speaker 2: of or somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3: In the middle, correct, So.
Speaker 2: We are going to see a change in her where
Speaker 2: she does start to submit and maybe converts. That's coming, Yeah,
Speaker 2: But I'm saying I think the reason that it seems
Speaker 2: so disjointed, for the way she behaved at the tell
Speaker 2: All and then at the beginning of this episode is
Speaker 2: still like what is he talking about? Is because they're
Speaker 2: out of sync in shooting. It's also why you should
Speaker 2: have picked another couple forever after. It's ridiculous for them
Speaker 2: to be on ever after. I don't understand you didn't
Speaker 2: have any other couples you could pick. Why are they.
Speaker 3: There's seventeen other couples on this season. You could have
Speaker 3: just skipped them all together.
Speaker 2: There's seventeen couples coming this.
Speaker 3: There's just there's eight couples on this season. That's too
Speaker 3: many couples. Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 2: It doesn't make so. I mean, it's it's too much.
Speaker 3: But last Last Resort we're gonna have to talk about
Speaker 3: because you didn't watch Last Resort.
Speaker 2: I know about Last Resort.
Speaker 3: There were five episodes of The tell All and Last
Speaker 3: Resort five five five parts.
Speaker 2: Picking the most, they're like, who's doing the most? They
Speaker 2: were a resort. Yeah, so I know when that's filmed,
Speaker 2: and I know that you and I are interested in
Speaker 2: taking some sort of a trip to a resort. Maybe
Speaker 2: we should try to well.
Speaker 3: The first season of Last Resort, they were at a
Speaker 3: resort and the other guests complain so much that they
Speaker 3: ended up. Now the last season was in like a commune,
Speaker 3: like in the middle of the desert, so there was
Speaker 3: no one else around because people just hated filming with
Speaker 3: Angela in a hot tub, Like, how can you enjoy
Speaker 3: your vacation with Big Ed and Angela screaming at each
Speaker 3: other in a hot tub?
Speaker 2: That you and I would have had a blast. I
Speaker 2: would have enjoyed my vacation. That all would have been
Speaker 2: like they had the manager.
Speaker 3: The manager would have apologized to us and we would
Speaker 3: be like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: This is amazing now, And also the manager maybe had
Speaker 2: given us tips on where to hang out to watch stuff.
Speaker 2: And then also maybe they would have been like, we're
Speaker 2: going to refund half your trip because they're so disruptive.
Speaker 3: Right like, or coon for next time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, We got it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would probably have to be unhappy. We'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a shame. It really put a damper on our vacation.
Speaker 2: I was so bummed. And meanwhile, just popcorn, just yes,
Speaker 2: it would be great.
Speaker 3: Exactly, so they are going to the car. He wants
Speaker 3: to drive because his pregnant wife can't drive, but really,
Speaker 3: because he's the man, he can't sit in the side seat.
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. He doesn't have a license in America. Also
Speaker 3: certainly doesn't, as she points out, he was traveling for
Speaker 3: twenty seven hours, so he's probably very tired and he
Speaker 3: doesn't know the roads.
Speaker 2: So she says, money, can I say something? Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: this is the day to leave the lambeau in the
Speaker 2: garage and maybe you hire a driver for today. So
Speaker 2: maybe you hire a driver in a town car or something.
Speaker 2: Ye come and get you guys from the airport. If
Speaker 2: it's a long drive. You're pregnant. He can't legally drive here,
Speaker 2: but she doesn't.
Speaker 3: Think that he is going to. She is surprised that
Speaker 3: he wants to take over and drive because she doesn't
Speaker 3: know her husband or his culture at all, because they
Speaker 3: have not talked about anything important. When he wants to drive,
Speaker 3: she's like, what I'm dry? Like, obviously I'm driving. I
Speaker 3: drove here. I'm the one with a license. This is
Speaker 3: my car.
Speaker 2: Also, oh, a Lamborghini, I am assuming I've never been
Speaker 2: inside one I'm assuming it's it's not maybe the most
Speaker 2: stands to get you drive driving right exactly. It's not
Speaker 2: a Honda a Cord, So I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: So she goes, it's not about looking cool in the Lambeau,
Speaker 3: it's about safety, baby, So then but he insists on driving,
Speaker 3: and then he almost gets them hit by a car
Speaker 3: in the parking lot of the airport, and then he
Speaker 3: speeds through a stop sign and he says, in Jordan,
Speaker 3: you only have to stop if there's people there. And
Speaker 3: then there's a storm and he thinks the weather is
Speaker 3: so weird and he's scared, and it's hot and rainy
Speaker 3: at the same time, and it's dark in the middle
Speaker 3: of the day and he thinks it's like hell and
Speaker 3: it is maybe a bad omen on his first day,
Speaker 3: and he was like, do you want me to drive
Speaker 3: because it's raining, baby, And he says, no, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: the man I drive. And she's like, this controlling man
Speaker 3: thing isn't going to fly here, and he it's like
Speaker 3: she again does not know no who he is, and
Speaker 3: it's all brand new information to her that a man
Speaker 3: would be like this. Okay, moving on to Kara and Guerma.
Speaker 3: Do you remember them?
Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
Speaker 3: She no, No, just on Diaries, she was the balloon
Speaker 3: arch lady. Oh yes, but she's a realistur now.
Speaker 2: And he met like on a trip they did on
Speaker 2: vacation online they met, No, she was, she went there,
Speaker 2: she lived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually like met fell in love. They were
Speaker 3: super horny. And you know, she is also like ten
Speaker 3: years older than him.
Speaker 2: That's my other thought. She is also older than him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they are bringing their they're going through a
Speaker 3: very rough passion their marriage. They are bringing their son
Speaker 3: to pick peaches and he makes a joke about eating
Speaker 3: her peach and she's like no because she says they can't.
Speaker 3: They haven't had sex in like four months, even though
Speaker 3: he's been begging every day because she can't have sex. Well,
Speaker 3: things are bad in the marriage. She is the geno
Speaker 3: of this relationship and he is the jasmine. He's like,
Speaker 3: I still have needs, let's bang it out.
Speaker 2: And they're not going to like that comparison. You need
Speaker 2: to apologize. Sorry.
Speaker 3: We actually like them, Like I'm rooting for them. She
Speaker 3: was kind of a bisk in their in their season,
Speaker 3: but I really like them on Diaries and I think she's.
Speaker 2: A rooting for them. Also, I do understand that, like
Speaker 2: they're going to paint people in certain ways, and she
Speaker 2: seemed to be someone that they could have edited in
Speaker 2: a certain way. Yes, Kai Strung. Yes, in this episode,
Speaker 2: we're seeing even more about her, like the singing and
Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff. And maybe it was last episode,
Speaker 2: but like there's definitely more to her that we didn't
Speaker 2: get to see. Yes last time, that makes more sense.
Speaker 3: And as I talked with Matt Marr about it last week,
Speaker 3: if you decide to marry a man who is ten
Speaker 3: years younger than you, whose frontal lobe is just developing,
Speaker 3: he was like twenty two when they got together, twenty
Speaker 3: like he's twenty five now, and then you have a
Speaker 3: baby you sometimes have to mother because he is acting
Speaker 3: so immature, and then you become the nagging, harping wife
Speaker 3: that no one likes. But is he turning you into
Speaker 3: that or are you just like that? It's the chicken
Speaker 3: or the egg, and no one's happy. Also, as Matt
Speaker 3: mar said, no one wants to fuck their mother. So
Speaker 3: that's part of the issue. And now we can cuss
Speaker 3: on the show and excuse your mouth, guys, it's free, Katie.
Speaker 3: We never cuss on our show, and Katie, it's freeing.
Speaker 2: Just try it. It's feels so good. Don't bear pressure me,
Speaker 2: what's going on? Don't peer pressure me. I don't want
Speaker 2: to get into that habit. I feel so good, but okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: press on. So they are go ahead, I know.
Speaker 3: So they're the orchard. They're holding hands, do you know.
Speaker 3: I originally wrote they go to the farm, and I
Speaker 3: was like, that's not what it's called. What is it
Speaker 3: where peaches grow? And then I finally got to orchard
Speaker 3: tree farm? Yeah, tree farm. So they're holding hands for
Speaker 3: a second and it's cute, but then she's like, we
Speaker 3: need you know, we have these trouble in our marriage.
Speaker 3: Just because he's acting cute at the tree farm, it's
Speaker 3: not going to solve everything.
Speaker 2: She said.
Speaker 3: One of our main issues besides him quitting his job
Speaker 3: without telling me and wanting to be a pilot is
Speaker 3: and losing our healthcare, is that I.
Speaker 2: Have this music career that is rising and my dad
Speaker 2: knew about it.
Speaker 3: I think my dad follows her on Instagram. He goes,
Speaker 3: she's a really good singer.
Speaker 2: She is ago and she's very it's a very specific
Speaker 2: kind of music. I was fascinated. I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all of this makes like their story makes more sense.
Speaker 2: Why didn't they give us that information in the first
Speaker 2: we don't hear anything about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Chada music and she speaks Spanish fluently. She's
Speaker 3: like one of the only people who learned the other
Speaker 3: person's language. But she already knew it. I think she
Speaker 3: went to go live there, like she's I think she
Speaker 3: speaks she traveled all over. She's very ambitious and likes
Speaker 3: to travel and like so she has been performing all
Speaker 3: over and he never wants to come to her performances.
Speaker 3: And he tells us it's not that I don't like
Speaker 3: her music. I don't love it, and I don't love
Speaker 3: the people that go to those shows. So it's not
Speaker 3: like my scene.
Speaker 2: So but you can date and marry someone with different
Speaker 2: music tastes than you. You can. What's harder is when
Speaker 2: someone actually does that for a living. That makes it tricky,
Speaker 2: Like having different music tastes is the spice of life.
Speaker 2: But this is something this isn't even about.
Speaker 3: It really mocks me because of how much I loved
Speaker 3: Counting Crows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some other stuff and some other stuff but
Speaker 2: some other stuff she has.
Speaker 3: But now she's jumped on board a little.
Speaker 2: I have not mocked you in a long time about
Speaker 2: I just did not. I specifically did not like that band.
Speaker 2: And it seemed like all of my closest friends were like,
Speaker 2: let's go to a concert. Absolutely not, so hold on,
Speaker 2: let me wait wait, I had some I had something important.
Speaker 2: I was saying, Oh, it's not about the music, it's
Speaker 2: not about that. It's just about supporting her. It doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you hate it, doesn't It just doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: You need to be at the show. Yes, yeah, if
Speaker 2: you do a podcast, your significant other should listen to
Speaker 2: the podcast. Oliver he mad so one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He tells her he's going to try harder and
Speaker 3: go to her shows, and he says, I really think
Speaker 3: we should start sleeping in the same bed again. I
Speaker 3: think that'll help. And she's like, I don't know, it's
Speaker 3: it might be too soon. What you said in therapy
Speaker 3: really hurt me. So they went to a therapist once
Speaker 3: and the therapist said, so, I assume you're here because
Speaker 3: you love each other and you care about each other,
Speaker 3: and Kara said, of course, and he said, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I am so on her team on this. You can't
Speaker 2: say that. You can't unhear that, and her not sleeping
Speaker 2: in the bed with him, Like the minute that came out,
Speaker 2: I was like, there is that's hurt. There's something there
Speaker 2: that she doesn't want to share, like this intimate space
Speaker 2: with you. That's a trust breaking comment. It's like that
Speaker 2: hurts in your bones, you know, like that, and it
Speaker 2: probably blindsided her. So I can't even imagine. That is
Speaker 2: almost a deal breaker sentence. And I think he was
Speaker 2: doing it to be a petulant kid. I think he
Speaker 2: set it to be like I just don't know anymore.
Speaker 2: I think that sounds like a tantrumy, like a toddler
Speaker 2: type retort, and it is not the way she took it.
Speaker 2: So no, he's got work to do, a lot has a.
Speaker 3: Lot of work to do, and maybe quitting your job
Speaker 3: without telling her wasn't the first step that you were
Speaker 3: thinking it would be. So he apologizes, He's immature. He
Speaker 3: apologizes and says I love you and I'm sorry, and
Speaker 3: she cries and says she doesn't know if she can
Speaker 3: get over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if I would get over it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So now let's talk about the elephant in the room. No,
Speaker 3: Gino and Jasmine and Matt and Natalie, and it's not Natalie,
Speaker 3: of Mike and Natalie. I really kind of wish it was.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to, so I wanted to
Speaker 2: see them. There were I couldn't watch half of the
Speaker 2: scenes because the gross out factor was on a like
Speaker 2: a level that was I was squirmy and going.
Speaker 3: He makes all of my feminine organs like shrivel up
Speaker 3: and start crying.
Speaker 2: The amount of licking, and I know that I've had
Speaker 2: to watch anyone else maybe.
Speaker 3: No, not Katie cannot watch anything making Oh you meant
Speaker 3: like you could have watched anyone else do that. No,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: And then now I'm taking that back because I don't
Speaker 2: want to see they get it either. But I really
Speaker 2: like there is something. There's a weird desperation about Gino
Speaker 2: that makes me uncomfortable and grossed out at the same time.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, you know this is weird, and it's weird.
Speaker 2: How much Natalie looks like Jasmine. That is bizarre.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think she looks like the octomom and
Speaker 3: Larissa Coulty's first wife, So there's she looks that generic
Speaker 3: what everyone's doing to their face now and.
Speaker 2: Body, but no, not really embody really just in like, No,
Speaker 2: Natalie is the most natural, I would say of her
Speaker 2: and Jasmine. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And the bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So they have just had their date in the Vegas
Speaker 3: ice bar, which I do want to go to. It
Speaker 3: looks kind of fun, but I told Matt I want
Speaker 3: to bring my own coat because I don't think they
Speaker 3: wash those coats. And that's gross because everyone in Vegas
Speaker 3: is sweaty and sticky.
Speaker 2: So they are licking each other. So they were winner,
Speaker 2: So they go to or they.
Speaker 3: Were licking and sucking ice off and in each other's faces.
Speaker 3: There was lots of licking and sucking and then she asks,
Speaker 3: when is the last time you fed your wife? And
Speaker 3: he's like, it really turns me on when you say
Speaker 3: that word. Say that again, Natalie, No, yeah, he says
Speaker 3: it's been probably since we first got married, and Natalie
Speaker 3: is just shocked and he's like, I can't do it
Speaker 3: when I don't have this like romantic connection or if
Speaker 3: there's yelling and stuff. So Natalie says she has an
Speaker 3: instant connection to him.
Speaker 2: Because he's on TV.
Speaker 3: And he says, when you first saw me like, was
Speaker 3: I making you hot?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: And she's like, yes, you're so adorable. Your smile is
Speaker 3: so amazing. She says adorable.
Speaker 2: She doesn't so sexy.
Speaker 3: She says adorable, which is what any grown man wants
Speaker 3: to hear, but he does because he loves it. He
Speaker 3: giggles like a girl whenever she says stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Any any positive confirmation he's going to respond to, because
Speaker 2: Jasmine was so negative. And also, I don't think that
Speaker 2: the problems in the bedroom with Jasmine and Gino were
Speaker 2: because there was lots of fighting. I think that she
Speaker 2: probably was pretty demeaning and that's going to be a problem,
Speaker 2: So I think he was probably having a hard time
Speaker 2: just because she was like, you're not doing this right
Speaker 2: and not uh huh.
Speaker 3: Also, I think he had a porn addiction, so that
Speaker 3: alters your brain chemistry and makes you expect sex to
Speaker 3: be a different thing than.
Speaker 2: It is, or makes you expect.
Speaker 3: Women to have a different to behave differently than.
Speaker 2: It's a It can be from chronic masturbating. There's there's
Speaker 2: things that go along with that, like physic physiologically, so
Speaker 2: you can't then reach orgasm or whatever because it's too many.
Speaker 3: Times, too many times, you wore it out.
Speaker 2: I don't know anymore.
Speaker 3: So she he says, do you want to come with?
Speaker 3: Do you want to come to my hotel? And she's
Speaker 3: she's like yes because she finds him so sexy and
Speaker 3: he's on TV. So she goes and sits on his
Speaker 3: bed and you see it cross over her face, this
Speaker 3: look that says, how badly do I want to be
Speaker 3: on TV?
Speaker 2: Like? Do I have to?
Speaker 3: And then they do this awkward flirting and he's giggling
Speaker 3: like a little girl, and they pop these little bottles
Speaker 3: of champagne and she's like chugging it because it's the
Speaker 3: only thing that's going to get her through. And she's
Speaker 3: teaching him how to lick the champagne bottle because anything
Speaker 3: to prolong the love making. And Katie has taking her
Speaker 3: headphones off, which is a sign that she's had too much,
Speaker 3: so she's like teaching him how to lick the bottles
Speaker 3: and then, dear God, make it stup, and then they
Speaker 3: kiss and the cameraman appears to run out of the
Speaker 3: room because he's gone blind. But it turns out the
Speaker 3: next day she no goes to buy some cologne for himself,
Speaker 3: because what happened the night before was they just kissed
Speaker 3: and then she left.
Speaker 2: She bolted.
Speaker 3: She's like, I've been on TV enough.
Speaker 2: I got to get out of this room, so maybe
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so she agreed to go to his room, sat
Speaker 3: on the bed, gave him a smooch, and then left.
Speaker 3: And then so he thinks he needs cologne because maybe
Speaker 3: she left because he smells bad.
Speaker 2: Yes, that too. Yeah, but also did you notice that
Speaker 2: he has two double beds in the room or two queens? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 2: so you didn't even spring in Vegas. You didn't spring
Speaker 2: for a king suite or a king room if you're
Speaker 2: expecting to go there and have some business with this
Speaker 2: new lady, which is you exploring your weird open marriage.
Speaker 2: That's not an open marriage. It's very much a closed marriage.
Speaker 2: If you you thought that the sexy option would be
Speaker 2: to have two beds in the room, he doesn't even
Speaker 2: think like, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: shocked by the two beds. Also, a lot of times
Speaker 2: it's cheaper for that room, so you're also didn't spring
Speaker 2: to pay more money for the It just doesn't bode
Speaker 2: well the whole thing. Yes, no, it's bad.
Speaker 3: So he's like can I. He goes to the cologne shop.
Speaker 3: He's like, I want one that'll make a lady like
Speaker 3: jump on me and like ignore my face and personality
Speaker 3: and want to have sex place and the lady and
Speaker 3: voice and the lady's like, oh try this, please get
Speaker 3: out of my store.
Speaker 2: You're so unsexy, and they sell it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the next day is his last day with Natalie
Speaker 3: because he's.
Speaker 2: Been there a day. I guess he was. It was
Speaker 2: a two day trip.
Speaker 3: And they are drinking these huge drinks with like marshmallows
Speaker 3: on top with a lot of alcohol in them because
Speaker 3: she needs a lot of alcohol to.
Speaker 2: Be with Gino and I noticed that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and then they play like games at this Dave
Speaker 3: and Buster type place, which actually looks really fun.
Speaker 2: I would go there. I have like three places to
Speaker 2: take you that are really cool. There's one place that
Speaker 2: just opened that's like an adult like playground type thing
Speaker 2: that I haven't been yet, but it has like mazes.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. It's like a center and you pay
Speaker 2: for like the afternoon to go, but it's all like fun. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we'd have a lot of fun. I have
Speaker 2: a list of things to do when you decide to
Speaker 2: go on a trip to Vegas with me, Okay, I'm in,
Speaker 2: but not now when it's a thousand degrees. No, when
Speaker 2: we go as at Christmas because there's no one there
Speaker 2: and it's dirt.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 3: So she tells him, you know, I still have questions
Speaker 3: about what's going on with Jasmine. You've been very vague
Speaker 3: about the whole thing, So like, did you kick her
Speaker 3: out of the house or did she leave? And he says, well,
Speaker 3: we got into a fight and she went to the
Speaker 3: gym and she said she wasn't coming back because of
Speaker 3: the way I was talking to her. That's a red flag, Natalie.
Speaker 3: You should be listening to the words that he's saying.
Speaker 3: And she stayed at Matt's and Natalie's like, so who
Speaker 3: is Matt?
Speaker 2: Because she is pretending she doesn't watch.
Speaker 3: This show or the Last Resort hasn't aired yet at
Speaker 3: this time.
Speaker 2: So Gino is like, how can I say this?
Speaker 3: I agree to an open marriage, and he explains like,
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to have sex with her because of
Speaker 3: the fighting, and she needed her needs met, so I
Speaker 3: thought this could work for us, and our therapist at
Speaker 3: Last Resort convinced us that it would be a good idea, but.
Speaker 2: She didn't really.
Speaker 3: She said we had to have a lot of rules
Speaker 3: and it might not be right for us. But Jasmine
Speaker 3: only heard I can have sex with someone, so we
Speaker 3: signed up. And so Natalie's like, how do I fit
Speaker 3: into this scenario? Am I part of this open marriage?
Speaker 3: Are you still with Jasmine? And he says, technically, yes,
Speaker 3: I am, and she's shocked because he didn't tell her
Speaker 3: any of this. He just said my wife moved out,
Speaker 3: so she thought he was getting a divorce, and she's like,
Speaker 3: obviously there's a lot of issues going on, and she's like, I,
Speaker 3: even though I'm dating Gino on National TV, have a
Speaker 3: strong moral compass and I do not want to be
Speaker 3: used as a pond to get back at his ex.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be in something.
Speaker 3: That's complicated and you should have told me sooner, which
Speaker 3: is all true. So he's packing up to go home
Speaker 3: and he's like, what do you think you want to do?
Speaker 3: And she's like, well, where does Jasmine think your relationship
Speaker 3: is at? And he says, great question. She's like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to be in the middle. If she's trying
Speaker 3: to reconcile with you, and he says, I don't really
Speaker 3: know because I haven't been talking to her at all,
Speaker 3: but I like you now and because you look like
Speaker 3: her and you're nice to me. So she says, well,
Speaker 3: I need Jasmine to know that you've moved on and
Speaker 3: there's no way that she's coming back. Like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to be hidden. I don't want to be part
Speaker 3: of your open marriage. So if we're together, your marriage
Speaker 3: is over. Do you understand you have to talk, you know,
Speaker 3: like he's a child. He's like, yeah, I think I
Speaker 3: get it. So he says, I have you know, I
Speaker 3: haven't pursued divorce because it just happened like a few
Speaker 3: months ago, okay, having four months ago and you're not okay,
Speaker 3: So he says, meeting you changed things, like he would
Speaker 3: have clung on to being in this like separation state
Speaker 3: for a long time with Jasmine, probably forever.
Speaker 2: Like you think he's very.
Speaker 3: He's very passive, like he doesn't tend to do anything.
Speaker 3: By the way, where are the children? Because he had
Speaker 3: lied to her about filing the paperwork to bring her
Speaker 3: children over, and because he didn't want to spend the
Speaker 3: money on a lawyer, so he was doing the paperwork himself.
Speaker 3: But then it was summertime, and you can't do paperwork
Speaker 3: when it's summertime in Michigan because it's so nice you
Speaker 3: want to be outside, and so it seemed like a waste.
Speaker 2: To do it.
Speaker 3: That was his excuse. So here, her children have still
Speaker 3: not been brought over. We don't know if she even cares,
Speaker 3: because now.
Speaker 2: She is a new baby, but in a new face, right.
Speaker 3: And a totally new face, new butt, new but new
Speaker 3: who this So she Natalie says, you need to decide,
Speaker 3: like if you want a divorce, and then decide if
Speaker 3: you want to keep seeing me. You and Jasmine need closure.
Speaker 3: It needs to be closed. Is closed, that's what's morally
Speaker 3: correct here. So Gino wants to be in a healthy relationship,
Speaker 3: something positive for once instead of so negative with Jazzmine.
Speaker 3: And he says, you know, I need I have a
Speaker 3: lot to think about. They hud goodbye, and good for
Speaker 3: her for getting on camera without having to sleep with Gina.
Speaker 2: She comes out looking like a rose in this because
Speaker 2: she does the right thing, which is I am this
Speaker 2: seems morally ambiguous to me and I'm knocking out of that.
Speaker 2: So you need to do all these things knowing he's
Speaker 2: not going to be able to do any of those things,
Speaker 2: right exactly, You're gonna do whatever Jasmine wants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so he is like, I got to decide what
Speaker 3: to do. I still have a lot investing in this marriage,
Speaker 3: but I also don't want to be happy. And I
Speaker 3: mean he's put a lot of time and money into
Speaker 3: bringing her to America, so and he's spent a lot
Speaker 3: on her. So that's I think when he said invested,
Speaker 3: he literally meant money investments. Okay, yeah, he paid for
Speaker 3: half of that butt implant because she spent the money
Speaker 3: he gave her for the dress on her butt. But
Speaker 3: that was only half of the butt so she got
Speaker 3: the other half from her friend Dan.
Speaker 2: So oh god, oh this couple. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So meanwhile, back in Michigan, Jasmine goes shopping with Michelle,
Speaker 3: Gino's cousin in law. Michelle has been nice to Jasmine
Speaker 3: since she got there. Michelle and her husband Dana actually
Speaker 3: seem to prefer Jasmine to Gino to their own relative.
Speaker 3: They tend to take her side, and most of the
Speaker 3: family does. Gino will like gather the troops and tell
Speaker 3: them what's going on in the marriage, and everyone dogpiles
Speaker 3: onto Gino. It's pretty funny and it's like you're the
Speaker 3: problem dude. Yeah, and Jasmine is no peach Jazz.
Speaker 2: It's not a good kidding. Oh no, they both have
Speaker 2: like they're both flaws here, Yeah, huge flaws.
Speaker 3: So I will say though, Jasmine is really good at
Speaker 3: a tell all. She is girl power at the tell all.
Speaker 3: She defends all the women, she defends all the immigrants.
Speaker 2: She is like she's it's.
Speaker 3: It's hilarious how you can like turn and go, good job, Jasmine,
Speaker 3: and then you hate her.
Speaker 2: Again because Jasmine, Jasmine's fighting style is atrocious, right, and
Speaker 2: so we're watching her fight with Gino. And then also
Speaker 2: she has that jealous hair that is out of control
Speaker 2: and not that she needs to work on that. That
Speaker 2: is a therapy thing. That is I don't know what
Speaker 2: that is, but that like it makes her into a
Speaker 2: different person. The hair, like the wild hair, like that's
Speaker 2: her extensions. No, no, she has a wild hair like
Speaker 2: that that she has this jealousy streak.
Speaker 3: There is ah you meant like her hair hair And
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 2: I mixed like five analogies in one. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that is like.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, she is a crazy jealousy streak, like crazy
Speaker 3: jealous Like I remember before she came to America and
Speaker 3: he would go pick up food and she'd be like,
Speaker 3: turn the camera around, you know, I want to see
Speaker 3: who you're talking with that kind And he had to
Speaker 3: turn the camera around so she could see the lady
Speaker 3: at the counter at Popeye's.
Speaker 2: To see what lady he was talking to.
Speaker 3: So Gino, Jasmine tells Michelle, I miss Gino and the
Speaker 3: open marriage messed everything up. Shocker. No one could have
Speaker 3: seen that coming. And Jasmine says, I don't even know
Speaker 3: what he's doing because he's blocked me on everything. And
Speaker 3: Michelle says, well, I do know that he met someone
Speaker 3: online and he went to see her in Vegas and
Speaker 3: the girl is your cologne and yeah. So and Jasmine's
Speaker 3: like shocked and angry and she's heartbroken for some reason
Speaker 3: because she loves Gino or she's really good at fake crying,
Speaker 3: and she starts crying.
Speaker 2: No, no, Jasmine really wants what she can't have. This
Speaker 2: is not this is a loss of an object. It
Speaker 2: is not going to go well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's jump into the Florida Hot Mess Express
Speaker 3: so the three couples together getting their hero shot walking
Speaker 3: on the sand.
Speaker 2: They know this is too much.
Speaker 3: So but that dinner party was amazing. That is my
Speaker 3: kind of house murming party.
Speaker 2: But it's always you invite Andre and that is what's
Speaker 2: going to happen. He is a hot head of all
Speaker 2: hot heads, just and I feel like some of the
Speaker 2: times he just does it on purpose.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's poking.
Speaker 2: He loves to poke you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves it. So Also, that friend Noga, she
Speaker 3: was auditioning and she nailed it. She nailed the audition
Speaker 3: ten out of ten. You delivered on your first episode
Speaker 3: of the show. So Lauren's friend Noga or who Andre
Speaker 3: calls Doga, which is a lame insult, screams at Andrea
Speaker 3: and then runs off, and Lauren runs after her to
Speaker 3: calm her down. And then she comes back and she
Speaker 3: apologizes her guests, even though she has nothing to apologize for.
Speaker 3: But Jovi's hot take is that Lauren and Alexi should
Speaker 3: have de escalated the situation better and it was their
Speaker 3: fault as the hosts.
Speaker 2: That is what That's a terrible take. That was a
Speaker 2: terrible take, Jovi, What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: What are you talking about So everyone is leaving and
Speaker 3: Libby is like, this was so fun, Sorry, my husband
Speaker 3: ruined it. And Lauren is mad that her good friend Libby,
Speaker 3: who didn't stand up to her husband at all and
Speaker 3: let Andrea ruin the party. So Andrea and Elizabeth drive home.
Speaker 3: She's mad that he used the word ultimatum and it
Speaker 3: made her look dumb because she wasn't expecting it, and
Speaker 3: it makes her look like she has no say in
Speaker 3: her marriage, which you don't because you've set a precedent
Speaker 3: where you don't. And he says it was a language barrier,
Speaker 3: and she says, you know, that was the lamest housewarming
Speaker 3: party ever. And they both agreed that Noga was insane
Speaker 3: and totally out of line. So they're just like mean
Speaker 3: girl gossiping about the party when they are the.
Speaker 2: Ones creating it false memories in their head to be
Speaker 2: like it wasn't him, it was that she overreacted, and
Speaker 2: she's obviously got mental issue, like you know, it's that
Speaker 2: thing where you have it's definitely not our fault. It's
Speaker 2: going to be everyone else's problem, which is that's unlikable.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: And then he tries to convince Libby that Lauren was
Speaker 3: out of line with the mom, comments like the mama
Speaker 3: bear and the mom needs to be happy if you
Speaker 3: take the kids to another country, and Libby is like, well,
Speaker 3: she's just saying that the mom is the foundation and
Speaker 3: the mom should be happy. But then she tells us
Speaker 3: that she's disappointed in Lauren and felt like Lauren was
Speaker 3: criticizing them and all. She's like, my family criticizes me enough.
Speaker 3: I just want support from Lauren. You want blind support
Speaker 3: when you're moving your children to another country and your
Speaker 3: friend doesn't think it's a good idea.
Speaker 2: Okay, learn to understand the difference between concern and criticism. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but your friend isn't criticizing you. She's not looking on
Speaker 2: you for your decision. She's like, you want to take
Speaker 2: a minute and talk this out and think about this.
Speaker 2: There's a big difference between your being so stupid. That's
Speaker 2: not what Lauren's doing.
Speaker 3: Lauren's no, she never said anything bad about Libby. She
Speaker 3: was merely defending herself against Andrea too for most of
Speaker 3: the conversation. So Andre says, you know, they're just jealous
Speaker 3: of us, and Libby goes, oh what, and he says,
Speaker 3: moving to Moldova and Libby rolls her eyes, but she
Speaker 3: says nothing. And then Andre says, you know, I didn't
Speaker 3: say anything about that stupid fish on the wall and
Speaker 3: it wasn't even real, that big fish that Alexi is
Speaker 3: so proud of, and Libby just doesn't say anything, like.
Speaker 2: She always she does this.
Speaker 3: She sticks up for herself and for women to a point,
Speaker 3: but then at some point she goes, it's not worth arguing,
Speaker 3: and then she just lets Andre have his way, and
Speaker 3: she does this over and over again, like honest battles.
Speaker 3: I think she picks her battles. I honestly think she
Speaker 3: lets him vote for her because she's like, it's not
Speaker 3: worth arguing. Like it it's this like fake feminism that
Speaker 3: drives me crazy because like I don't know, I'm just saying,
Speaker 3: but I.
Speaker 2: See what you're saying. It's that also she might she's like,
Speaker 2: we don't know that. Let's say I have a.
Speaker 3: Voice in this marriage, and I'm like, do you like
Speaker 3: you act like you do? But then you actually don't
Speaker 3: because you backed down every single time.
Speaker 2: It's just that Andre seems to be completely unwilling to
Speaker 2: change or to see that, like everyone's if everyone's mad
Speaker 2: at you. I mean, come on, like you're the problem.
Speaker 2: You need to like you're not a weak person for
Speaker 2: changing your mind and like trying to like be hinder
Speaker 2: and like, you know, it's just he's unwilling to buy.
Speaker 3: You have Alexi, who has been a chauvinist many times
Speaker 3: on their season, but when it comes down to it,
Speaker 3: he has his wife's back. He has he like says
Speaker 3: that the women are important and they should have a.
Speaker 2: Voice, you know, like yeah, he hears her.
Speaker 3: He hears her when it comes down to it, like
Speaker 3: in the anger of the moment. He will sometimes be
Speaker 3: a chauvinist jerk, but then he apologizes and is like
Speaker 3: you are in charge, honey, you know, Like it's so
Speaker 3: I don't yeah, I just you have him. What's fun
Speaker 3: What I said last week is Andre's a bully like
Speaker 3: and sometimes I like Andrea. He can be funny sometimes
Speaker 3: of the tell all he goes like they brought him
Speaker 3: on as a commentator on one of the tellos and
Speaker 3: he went after Chicaina.
Speaker 2: And it's hilarious. I remember.
Speaker 3: So sometimes I'm like Andre, I love you. But then
Speaker 3: he is a bully and he bullies Jovi because he
Speaker 3: thinks Jovi is a mama's boy and like a beta.
Speaker 3: But then when it comes to Alexi, he never raises
Speaker 3: his voice at Alex. He like like talks to him
Speaker 3: like respectfully, because Alex is like he sees him as
Speaker 3: like another alpha male. So he only yells at Jovi
Speaker 3: and the women, but he.
Speaker 2: Respect weird. I hate that. I hate that because it's
Speaker 2: it's not wrong. I can I can see that it's there.
Speaker 4: It's despicable that he it is, so I get why
Speaker 4: Noga was so upset, Like he is like a bully
Speaker 4: and he screams at women who he doesn't even know,
Speaker 4: Like you should scream at any woman.
Speaker 2: Your wife.
Speaker 3: He should scream at a woman you just met. You
Speaker 3: shouldn't scream at your friend that it's a woman. And
Speaker 3: you shouldn't scream at your wife that's a woman.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about with the not being
Speaker 2: willing to change. You've been on the show, you've been
Speaker 2: in America, you've been on the show long enough, you've
Speaker 2: been married long enough. Like can't you see that, like
Speaker 2: this kind of behavior where you only talk to the
Speaker 2: alpha male in the room and like yeah, not the
Speaker 2: beta and the Yeah, didn't you see that that like,
Speaker 2: is really not it?
Speaker 3: Well, it's getting them more seasons on the show, all
Speaker 3: the fighting, so maybe he's being rewarded for this behavior.
Speaker 2: And the whole family's against well, never mind, the family's
Speaker 2: a can of worms. We won't go into that. The
Speaker 2: family is a disaster.
Speaker 3: But his dad is like the nicest, most gentle man.
Speaker 3: When he came over. I mean it was hard to
Speaker 3: because he doesn't speak English, but he was so sweet
Speaker 3: and like respectful.
Speaker 2: So yes.
Speaker 3: So meanwhile, Lauren and Alexei agree that Andre was so
Speaker 3: rude and Andre is making Libby move and not listening
Speaker 3: to his wife and that that's totally wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Is the move to Moldova real or is there
Speaker 2: speculation that that is all fake for the show. I
Speaker 2: think it's fake.
Speaker 3: That's why now they've because they got on happily. I
Speaker 3: think they're just using that as a plot line where
Speaker 3: they're going to like go visit.
Speaker 2: Yea. Then they're going to decide, and maybe this will
Speaker 2: be an Andrea redemption arc where he says, I have
Speaker 2: to do what my wife wants. We're not going to
Speaker 2: be good. I am wondering if that's where we're going here.
Speaker 2: So he's going to be terrible, even more terrible than
Speaker 2: normal in the beginning, and then we're going to move
Speaker 2: to that at the end. Also, if that happens, I
Speaker 2: feel like I get a prize, Yeah, for sure, you
Speaker 2: guessed it. Trophy, Yeah, gets mailed to you regardless. But
Speaker 2: I think that I think it's also fake. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's real. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: She's going to give up her cushy life with like
Speaker 3: the amenities that she likes.
Speaker 2: And she also doesn't speak the language, and.
Speaker 3: I think they're very attached to her dad, Chuck, and.
Speaker 2: I think he's not gonna want to.
Speaker 3: I think once he goes back to Moldova, he's going
Speaker 3: to realize that he really likes America, and.
Speaker 2: So too does he work for Chuck still, I don't
Speaker 2: know where they are still.
Speaker 3: I think he does his own reality now because Chuck
Speaker 3: got him into it. So I'm not sure if he
Speaker 3: still actually works for Chuck. Chuck turned out to be
Speaker 3: such a great guy. Like I hated Chuck at the beginning,
Speaker 3: I hated the whole family. Most of them are trash,
Speaker 3: but Chuck turned out to be a nice guy. So meanwhile,
Speaker 3: so they're arguing and they don't want, you know, Libby
Speaker 3: to go to Moldova.
Speaker 2: So Lauren's like they're going in a few weeks.
Speaker 3: I think Andre's going to convince her to stay and
Speaker 3: make it a permanent move. So I need to convince her,
Speaker 3: and you know, good luck because Libby also doesn't like
Speaker 3: being challenged, so she's going to like do it almost
Speaker 3: just to spite Lauren. I feel like if Lauren pushes
Speaker 3: too hard, Libby's going to like do the move just
Speaker 3: to spite everybody.
Speaker 2: She's got that tendency. Yes, I can see that.
Speaker 3: So Alexi is agreeing with Lauren, like, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he shouldn't have said like mama's you know, mama bear
Speaker 3: and saying you were using that argument you are the
Speaker 3: Mama bear and I love your Mama Bear and it
Speaker 3: was cute.
Speaker 2: So okay, An Alexi only on the show to be
Speaker 2: a part of that storyline or do are we going
Speaker 2: to get anything separate with Lauren and Alexi? I can't
Speaker 2: tell if they're well the show.
Speaker 3: Okay, So they've had a lot on previous seasons. She
Speaker 3: had this huge makeover, all this plastic surgery, so there's
Speaker 3: tons of fighting about that. She clearly has like body dysmorphia,
Speaker 3: and so she got like a lot of work done
Speaker 3: and then it wasn't enough. She wanted more, and now
Speaker 3: she has the braces, but I think she's put more
Speaker 3: surgeries on hold.
Speaker 2: I think she doesn't look that different.
Speaker 3: What it's not and her face it was body and
Speaker 3: they did like lots of body stuff, like stuff that
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, like cutting, like shaving bone down,
Speaker 3: like that's the stuff she wants, like the really like
Speaker 3: really invasive stuff. And everyone at the tell all was like,
Speaker 3: you don't need it, you have a problem, like you're
Speaker 3: gorgeous and so yeah, and then her parents, So her
Speaker 3: mom is a nightmare. She is a terrible person. She's
Speaker 3: ranking up there as one of the worst moms on
Speaker 3: this show. And I'm counting her up with the Suaylou's
Speaker 3: mom My money. Just horrible, manipulative rude. She slapped Lauren
Speaker 3: on TV during one of their fights.
Speaker 2: Remember this, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because Lauren and Alexi wanted to move to Israel and
Speaker 3: she didn't agree with it, and and she said like,
Speaker 3: you can't do it on your own, you can't be
Speaker 3: a mom without my help, and like horrible stuff. And
Speaker 3: then they got in this huge fight and she wasn't
Speaker 3: going to come to Lauren's baby shower or like it
Speaker 3: was like just really manipulative. She got the dad to
Speaker 3: not talk to Lauren, she.
Speaker 2: Got the sister to not talk to Lauren.
Speaker 3: She's I think narcissist and like does the flying monkeys
Speaker 3: thing like, And now it appears that they have all
Speaker 3: iced out Lauren and she's not talking to any of
Speaker 3: her family and they were so close. So I feel
Speaker 3: like there's going to be more of that on the season.
Speaker 2: Hi, we have a cat? Is it Ulysses? Hi? Ulysses? Hello?
Speaker 2: Hi friend?
Speaker 3: Hello Pink Shade listeners, You're getting to see a cat,
Speaker 3: so Hi. If you're watching this on video, follow Pink
Speaker 3: Shade on YouTube. So she's a terrible mom and the
Speaker 3: dad is just quiet, kind of goes along with the
Speaker 3: mom anyway, giving Jews a bad name, and where I
Speaker 3: think we might see more of that this season, because
Speaker 3: I hope their whole season is not just like to
Speaker 3: deal with the Andrea and Libby thing.
Speaker 2: Okay, we are on. We think they're on for.
Speaker 3: I hope they're on for themselves. They've been on for
Speaker 3: themselves and there it was a disaster, there was like
Speaker 3: lots of fighting, Like they argue about wanting more kids,
Speaker 3: and like it's it's they have a lot of fights.
Speaker 3: I don't know, they're they're.
Speaker 2: Kind of exhausting.
Speaker 3: They're not my favorite couple, but it's I just hope
Speaker 3: they're not there as just like a foil for another couple.
Speaker 2: That would be stupid. I like to watch them. I was.
Speaker 2: I was pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 3: So Darcy and Georgie, Oh my god, how long has
Speaker 3: it been since you've seen Darcy.
Speaker 2: I was fine with just that being it. I was
Speaker 2: fine with being my last time. The last time it
Speaker 2: was Darcy was with Jesse Jesse Jesse, the last time
Speaker 2: you saw her? Yeah show And then I know that
Speaker 2: they her and her sister went her and Stacey did
Speaker 2: the Barbie surgeries right.
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Uh huh yeah, speaking of Boudy dysmorphia.
Speaker 2: Wow, so they're there. Who is this guy?
Speaker 3: Georgie is a very shady character. He was already living
Speaker 3: in America. He came over on a k one visa,
Speaker 3: I think with this other woman, and he was married
Speaker 3: to her for a long time. He was still married
Speaker 3: to her. I think when he met Darcy. I could
Speaker 3: have some of this wrong. They got together and he
Speaker 3: got divorced, and maybe he cheated on her like several times,
Speaker 3: but it was never confirmed. He was very shady, like
Speaker 3: using her for money. It was he became friends with Rian,
Speaker 3: but then like Florian kind of sees the truth about Georgie,
Speaker 3: that Georgie is no good and they get breaking up.
Speaker 3: Florine is Stacy's husband who they were on Last Resort
Speaker 3: last season, and they their whole storyline on Last Resort
Speaker 3: was that he Florian was too close to Darcy, like
Speaker 3: Darcy would call him in the middle of the night
Speaker 3: and ask for advice because like she thinks of Florian
Speaker 3: like her brother, and it was weird.
Speaker 2: So we have a special guy. I'm so sorry. Another cat. Sorry,
Speaker 2: this is not just a cat.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Hi Hill do you.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you in so long. You look great
Speaker 2: girl and not amused, not happy. She doesn't like it,
Speaker 2: not like the light. I apologize, Bernila, Okay, sorry, press on.
Speaker 3: So Orgie's trouble. We don't trust Georgie at all. They
Speaker 3: got a couple of tips back together many times. He's younger,
Speaker 3: much younger than her, in his thirties, I think, and
Speaker 3: she they finally got married.
Speaker 2: But there shouldn't be finally got married. There shouldn't be
Speaker 2: that with Darcy, especially not with Darcy where she's having
Speaker 2: to like push the issue of marriage. Yes, can't you
Speaker 2: see that that's going to end badly? If you want
Speaker 2: this more?
Speaker 3: Kimberly, Well, she's like, he flew down to Miami to
Speaker 3: win me over. No one had ever done that for me.
Speaker 3: Meant so much partwork, like he got on a plane.
Speaker 3: Darcy raised your standards, lazy ladies. Raised your standards.
Speaker 2: Stacey too.
Speaker 3: Florian has not been treating you well and he has
Speaker 3: been using you for money for a long time too.
Speaker 3: So let's get real, ladies.
Speaker 2: You could do better. Girl power.
Speaker 3: So Darcy and Stacy are getting dressed in Miami and
Speaker 3: they're telling each other about the sex they're having, and
Speaker 3: Darcy said, shoot, I wrote the zebra last night.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: I think he was wearing that zebra print shirt.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you got some.
Speaker 3: So it's their fiftieth birthday and Darcy's foot has locked
Speaker 3: up like a dragon, with it like a claw.
Speaker 2: I got, I got what she said. I got what's
Speaker 2: going on with our toes?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 2: What's happening.
Speaker 3: Stacy's like, it's happened to me too.
Speaker 2: Is menopause? Wild flot like that? And Floria is coming
Speaker 2: in and what's going on with that?
Speaker 3: It's in their cartoon characters. Also, I don't I don't
Speaker 3: know if it's menopause. It could be the size the wedge,
Speaker 3: the platform wedges you're wearing that are two sizes too
Speaker 3: small that you constantly wear because you're you're self conscious
Speaker 3: that you're so short and you think it makes your
Speaker 3: legs look better, and that could be part of it,
Speaker 3: or it's menopause. I don't know. Also, why does Florian
Speaker 3: have to keep coming in the room and helping Darcy.
Speaker 3: You're married to Stacy and he's married to both of them. Really,
Speaker 3: So Darcy tells Stacy Georgie wants me to cover up
Speaker 3: in Bulgaria, but I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be I have to be myself.
Speaker 3: I have five free And Stacy gets Florian involved and
Speaker 3: he's like Georgie like does massages here. I guess he
Speaker 3: works at a place and does massages and okay, and
Speaker 3: so he's not.
Speaker 2: Like a traditional person like conservative, Like it's weird that
Speaker 2: he's like, over there, is he like a priest?
Speaker 3: Why is he acting like this? Okay, So the three
Speaker 3: of them go to the party. Georgie is supposed to
Speaker 3: come maybe after work because he's working a lot, because
Speaker 3: she just learned today that he got a big promotion
Speaker 3: a while ago, and he just told her today. She's like,
Speaker 3: why can't you take the day off? It's my big day,
Speaker 3: it's my fiftieth birthday. And he's like, I'm the boss.
Speaker 3: And she's like, you're the boss. What are you talking about?
Speaker 3: You worked the front desk And he's like, babe, I'm
Speaker 3: the boss.
Speaker 2: I got promotion. When did you get promotion? Why didn't
Speaker 2: you tell me?
Speaker 3: And he's like months ago. She's like, you didn't tell me.
Speaker 3: So that's how I imagine the conversation went. So she
Speaker 3: thought he was the front test guy, but apparently he's
Speaker 3: like a manager in charge of operations or something, and
Speaker 3: he never told her.
Speaker 2: No, I'm so sorry. I also feel like there is
Speaker 2: a we are at a fifty to fifty chance that
Speaker 2: she was totally told that has no memory of the
Speaker 2: conversation because it didn't involve her. Yet he may have
Speaker 2: been told several times, no remember because I'm operations manager
Speaker 2: now and so like, he keeps coming up, but she
Speaker 2: keeps being like, I didn't know, I had no idea, bro,
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh boy. So she says, Florian is like I used
Speaker 3: to work there. I can tell you how much he's
Speaker 3: making now. He's probably he was probably making five thousand
Speaker 3: a month before and now he's probably making like seven.
Speaker 3: And Darcy says, well, I've asked for a number, but
Speaker 3: he won't tell me. Why wouldn't you tell me his
Speaker 3: wife how much he makes? I think this should be transparency.
Speaker 3: And Stacy is just rolling her eyes because she's heard
Speaker 3: this over and over and over again. How shady Georgie is.
Speaker 3: And it's not like not shady shady. She married Florian,
Speaker 3: and Florian is shady too, So it's Florian looks like
Speaker 3: a gem compared to Georgie. But Florian has his own
Speaker 3: set of issues.
Speaker 2: Listen, Florian seems like he might kind of like Stacy
Speaker 2: at least as a friend. Yes, yes, Georgie does not
Speaker 2: seem to like Stacey Darcy at all. Darcy at all? Yeah,
Speaker 2: as a person, as a Yeah.
Speaker 3: He doesn't like to look at her new face. He
Speaker 3: does doesn't want any.
Speaker 2: Part, does not care about Locktow, would not care about Loto, Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3: What is I don't know, but maybe they have rainods
Speaker 3: because my hands sometimes get a little crampy, so maybe
Speaker 3: it has something to do with that. Maybe it is menopause.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I got to look at the symptoms
Speaker 2: of menopause. I don't know you ever heard of lock
Speaker 2: jaw locktow? I mean, do you have a cramp? Is
Speaker 2: that what you mean? You have a cramp?
Speaker 3: You know Mama June has forkliff foot because sure book
Speaker 3: got run over by a forklift, so maybe it's like
Speaker 3: forklift foot.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but.
Speaker 3: I think if there's a good medication out there for menopause,
Speaker 3: Darcy and Stacey could do a banger of an ad
Speaker 3: for it. They could write a little jingle, they could
Speaker 3: do a jingle, they could perform it like because they
Speaker 3: love to do their music in quotes and their pop
Speaker 3: their pop career, so I think they could combine a
Speaker 3: song about menopause and and it could be a winner.
Speaker 2: Have they tried to dj yet? It feels like a
Speaker 2: natural progression for them to start DJing. Has that not.
Speaker 3: Totally does I'm sure. I'm sure they've paired with DJs.
Speaker 3: They do their fashion a lot, so sometimes they're they
Speaker 3: have fashion shows and it might be a DJ at
Speaker 3: one of their fashion shows for their their brand.
Speaker 2: Why also, isn't there some are they friends with Andy Cohen?
Speaker 3: They? I I think I've seen them on a show.
Speaker 2: Maybe have they been on Watch what Happens? I just
Speaker 2: feel like that there there should be some sort of
Speaker 2: Bravo needs to come in and do something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think there's solely a TLC property at
Speaker 3: this point though.
Speaker 2: So all right, and that's what Georgie makes the ever the.
Speaker 3: Twain Shall Meet Bravo. Yeah, the Bravo people and the
Speaker 3: TLC people. So, and then there's the Wee people, which
Speaker 3: is the Love after lock Up people, and they're in
Speaker 3: a whole different So Darcy, you know, they're bitching about Georgie.
Speaker 3: They arrived at the party and Darcy's like fifty fifty
Speaker 3: and getting younger. She really it's that, I think that
Speaker 3: deep insecurity, and she covers it with this false bravado
Speaker 3: and it is so sad. It's so sad because it's
Speaker 3: so insecure. If you're watching video, you're getting a treat
Speaker 3: right now. So Georgie is not It's hard to do
Speaker 3: with your face that like that. Georgie isn't there, Darcy
Speaker 3: tells us you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Darcy tells her friend and her cousin how she's going
Speaker 3: to Bulgaria to meet his family, and how she has
Speaker 3: talked to his mom like message with the mom. But
Speaker 3: the last time she and Georgie broke up before they
Speaker 3: the last time before they got married, the mom sent
Speaker 3: her a nasty message, like a compassionate person doesn't throw
Speaker 3: someone out in the street before Christmas. Because apparently that's
Speaker 3: what Georgie told his mom was happening, not that maybe
Speaker 3: he cheated or whatever was happening. So Stacy and Florian
Speaker 3: in their talking head laugh about who knows what Georgie
Speaker 3: told his mom and how he's a little boy complaining
Speaker 3: to his mom. They bond over their dislike of Georgie,
Speaker 3: and I find it hilarious. That's a good marriage if
Speaker 3: you can bond over your dislike of who your sister's
Speaker 3: married to.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So then Georgie shows up to the party and he's
Speaker 3: greeting everyone in his Miami suit and his sparkly diamond
Speaker 3: Nelasis and he's not wearing his wedding band because he
Speaker 3: was in a rush.
Speaker 2: Your jewels, your white womonds.
Speaker 3: And Darcy's like, it's simple of our love.
Speaker 2: Babe, it's our birthday party. You a whole what's wrong
Speaker 2: with you?
Speaker 3: And he's like, well, I do massages at work, so
Speaker 3: I have to take it off. But then I didn't
Speaker 3: want to lose it because then you'd yell at me
Speaker 3: for losing it. So then he literally talks to her
Speaker 3: friends for five seconds before he leaves them, and Darcy
Speaker 3: and Stacy, whose birthday it is, to go schmooz with
Speaker 3: his friends, and Darcy's like, enjoy your birthday, and he's like,
Speaker 3: it's your birthday, babe. So then they're all dancing, Darcy
Speaker 3: and Stacy are dancing, and these girls with peacock feathers
Speaker 3: come in and they do these quick shots of Georgie
Speaker 3: oggling the girls in the peacock feathers while he's goggling
Speaker 3: his wife, and then they blow out the camp on
Speaker 3: their cake and they bite into the cake like a
Speaker 3: one year old at the birthday, just right into the cake,
Speaker 3: and then serve the cake to people. That's gross, And
Speaker 3: then Georgie's like you're halfway there, which is what he
Speaker 3: said last time. He thinks it's hilarious say you're halfway there,
Speaker 3: like she's going to die at a hundred. She does
Speaker 3: have a lot of fakeed substances in her body that
Speaker 3: are probably preserving her from the inside out. So then
Speaker 3: Stacy and no shame, by the way, I just got
Speaker 3: botox and I feel a little spockish, but not at all.
Speaker 3: It's going to fade, not at all.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, So do you feel like they did the
Speaker 2: eyebrought the end raise a.
Speaker 3: Little too much? But it's just happened, so I think
Speaker 3: it's only been a week. I think it takes a
Speaker 3: little time. So I feel like Darcy and Stacy. So
Speaker 3: Stacy and Florian start making out because they actually like
Speaker 3: each other sometimes, and Darcy is like, that's nice. You
Speaker 3: want to do that to me, Georgie, you want to
Speaker 3: kiss me?
Speaker 2: And everyone chance.
Speaker 3: Kiss and is like peer pressuring Georgie into kissing his wife.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't want to kiss those lips that were
Speaker 3: like greasy chicken lips last time where they were at
Speaker 3: the State air and they were showing down on a
Speaker 3: turkey leg and so they do this unsexy kiss It's
Speaker 3: like Geno kissing somebody and she wait, Katie is again
Speaker 3: doing a face that again I say, follow pink Shade
Speaker 3: on YouTube. So she wishes that he was more affectionate.
Speaker 3: But she's like, I want to think positive about the
Speaker 3: power couple that we want.
Speaker 2: I know we can be.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted us to be a power couple.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about, right, That's a huge one.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's huge. Listen. Also, I'm teasing about
Speaker 2: the lips. They obviously very much like the lips and
Speaker 2: the and the plastic surgeries that do whatever you want
Speaker 2: if you have the money. You're not You're only doing
Speaker 2: it to yourself.
Speaker 3: It's fine, you're hurt yourself and your daughters who have
Speaker 3: to see their mom completely unrecognizable from what you look
Speaker 3: like when you look in the mirror.
Speaker 2: So we hope that there are talks behind the scenes
Speaker 2: of this is what we feel, you know, but we
Speaker 2: don't know. So I'm just I'm saying I'm doing that
Speaker 2: as a caveat because I'm I can tease by doing
Speaker 2: the faces. Obviously they've had they they videotape their work
Speaker 2: so they people know you're proud of it. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: they are very very proud of it. This is how
Speaker 2: they want. They want to be barbies. So here is
Speaker 2: my thought when she said that about the power couple,
Speaker 2: I said, does Darcy A just want to be married,
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter, just wants to be married. B Does
Speaker 2: she want to be in love?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I think she's a romantic. I think she's one of
Speaker 3: those Disney princess ladies. Like she wants to be a
Speaker 3: princess and she wants to be treated like that. She
Speaker 3: wants she wants to live the fairy tale, to which
Speaker 3: I say, be your own prince charmy.
Speaker 2: She did, but has that changed? Is it now? Just
Speaker 2: she wants to be married and she wants someone that
Speaker 2: is a partial status symbol for her, like an object,
Speaker 2: because that right power couple thing is, well, how are
Speaker 2: you going to be a power couple when he's not?
Speaker 2: Don't they have multiple businesses and things like that? They
Speaker 2: are they are an she.
Speaker 3: Is successful, Yeah, she and dark Stacey are. But she's
Speaker 3: the guy who is, yeah, kind of a loser. He's young,
Speaker 3: so he maybe looks good on her arm, which.
Speaker 2: That's a trophy husband, not a power trophy couple. Two
Speaker 2: people top of their individual feelings coming together. That's a
Speaker 2: power couple, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he's she thinks she's marrying Bill Gates or something.
Speaker 2: Right. This feels like, yeah, she thinks she's married Jeff
Speaker 2: Bezos and I'm sorry, ladies, he's taken. Yeah, I won't
Speaker 2: say anything else. Let's so regardless. I think that either
Speaker 2: she doesn't know what a power couple is, but I don't.
Speaker 2: This has become not because she seems kind of bothered
Speaker 2: that he's not showing her a lot of affection, but
Speaker 2: not as much as I've seen in the past from her. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's just older and changed, or she's just given up
Speaker 2: on the princess love thing and is like, I just
Speaker 2: want to be married and if you could maybe not
Speaker 2: be a jerk and show up to my party, that'd
Speaker 2: be great.
Speaker 3: I think that's it. I think she's not given up
Speaker 3: on the princess thing. She's given up on expecting him
Speaker 3: to do better, and she is accept did It's like
Speaker 3: a dog. You've accepted less and less and less until
Speaker 3: you get so used to accepting less and being treated
Speaker 3: like garbage by your significant other that you choose to
Speaker 3: marry them. And then the most littlest basic thing they
Speaker 3: can do is show up to your birthday party and
Speaker 3: give you a kiss in front of your friends who
Speaker 3: she's trying to show off in front of. And like
Speaker 3: it's just so sad and where you're ring. She wants
Speaker 3: so little, but he's now done so little that she's
Speaker 3: now accepting so little of him.
Speaker 2: How long have they been married for?
Speaker 3: Just like a year, But they've been together for a
Speaker 3: long time on and off.
Speaker 2: And I think she's misreading the Bulgaria thing. It's Bulgaria, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He wants her to like tone down the darcinis. He
Speaker 2: wants her to not wear just like pasties and a sarong.
Speaker 2: He wants her, he wants.
Speaker 3: He also wants her to change her personality. He wants
Speaker 3: her to be a meek and.
Speaker 2: Mild like woman. And she's flipping tables. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen. No, it's gonna be bad. And
Speaker 2: but the worst thing is is that I think we
Speaker 2: see in an update for coming next time, is she
Speaker 2: infer on the plane like a fury? Probably, So this
Speaker 2: is what I'm talking is that she's gonna take it
Speaker 2: like I shouldn't have to change for anyone. No, but everything's.
Speaker 3: About respecting someone else's culture.
Speaker 2: It is, sure is, and it's it's also you don't
Speaker 2: have to be meek. But the way that he should
Speaker 2: have put it is just make sure that you listen
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, you know, there's a way to say
Speaker 2: that of like, yeah, just listen and pay attention to
Speaker 2: what just what do you try to say?
Speaker 3: I don't listen, George, you're trying to say, I don't
Speaker 3: I listen?
Speaker 2: What are you trying? I'm listening to right now. Can't
Speaker 2: you see me? I'm listening. This is my listening face. Darcy,
Speaker 2: I that is that impersonation is a I don't know
Speaker 2: who it is. It's a cross, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's Poodle and Maddie doing
Speaker 3: Darcy and Stacy. I think I'm just imitating them doing
Speaker 3: Darcy and Stacy. And they love Darcy and Stacy. They
Speaker 3: won't slander, they won't stand for any talk against Darcy
Speaker 3: and Stacy.
Speaker 2: They love them. I have a soft spot for Darcy
Speaker 2: and Stacy. I don't know why. I think just because
Speaker 2: they've been on the screen for a long time, and like,
Speaker 2: you just want it to work, just work. Out. Please
Speaker 2: just work out, like, find somebody good and just please
Speaker 2: stop dating these bozos? What are you doing? You's got
Speaker 2: just maybe try an American. I don't know, maybe not, but.
Speaker 3: I don't know have bad pickers. I think she needs someone.
Speaker 2: I think there's they just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't they've Jesse was bad, Tom was bad.
Speaker 2: Georgie's mad Tom, So yeah, you were never going to
Speaker 2: be with a brit though. That felt wild. The whole
Speaker 2: was a left field.
Speaker 3: So theyvet. We meet Sveet, Georgie's Bulgarian friend at the party,
Speaker 3: and Georgie says, were you nervous to introduce your wife
Speaker 3: to your family?
Speaker 2: And Sveet says, yeah, she has.
Speaker 3: To cover up, like our culture is very judgmental, very conservative.
Speaker 3: So it seems like Georgie was one hundred percent telling
Speaker 3: the truth, which I thought that he was. Darcy just
Speaker 3: thought he was hiding something suspicious of him because he's
Speaker 3: cheated so many times.
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters because I think that Listen,
Speaker 2: if even if I was going to meet somebody's grandmother
Speaker 2: who was conservative, I would make sure that I dressed
Speaker 2: for that person. I don't want to get and it's
Speaker 2: not worth a fight, I'm wearing mini skirt, Like if
Speaker 2: their conservative or whatever, I would maybe wear a shirt
Speaker 2: with sleeves, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's just
Speaker 2: it's a it's a courtesy thing. It doesn't feel like
Speaker 2: giving up part of yourself to be courteous. And someone
Speaker 2: maybe needs to explain that to her. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and Darcy doesn't feel sexy unless she's showing a
Speaker 3: ton of skin completely like really skimpy, because that's she's
Speaker 3: feels self conscious, like she does. I think she doesn't
Speaker 3: feel beautiful in her own skin. She says that she does.
Speaker 3: She says she's so empowered and like, but I think
Speaker 3: she's not. And so I think she feels like she
Speaker 3: always has to wear the most to feel like special
Speaker 3: in that.
Speaker 2: Or maybe she likes the most. That can be your style.
Speaker 2: I am absolutely, and.
Speaker 3: Some people do, but they can also like not wear
Speaker 3: the most, like they can still feel in their own
Speaker 3: skin in like pajamas, you know, or sweats you know.
Speaker 2: Like you're saying that she can't like that, that's impossible.
Speaker 2: The second thing, like she she has to wear that
Speaker 2: or she's upset. Yeah that's what I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Darcy says, uh, Sveet's wife Roxy. She asks Roxy,
Speaker 3: what was it like when you went to Bulgaria and
Speaker 3: met his family and she says, well, they want you
Speaker 3: to be a nice Christian woman. They want you to
Speaker 3: be covered up, and they're gonna talk about you to
Speaker 3: their neighbor. The whole village will be gossiping about you,
Speaker 3: especially if you don't wear something like respectable. So just
Speaker 3: you know, tone it down. Darcy like, it's it's respect
Speaker 3: your culture. And Darcy's like, but I'm still gonna be
Speaker 3: myself and it's like, yes, yes, but again, respect the
Speaker 3: culture by not being yourself totally. And Darcus courteous, and
Speaker 3: Darcy's getting nervous because Georgie wasn't exaggerating even though week
Speaker 3: she was like, I think he's hiding something and.
Speaker 2: That's what my gut is telling me.
Speaker 3: And now she's like, my gut is telling me that
Speaker 3: it's just really conservative there. So but my gun never lies.
Speaker 2: It hurts my voice to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't know why I keep doing that voice. It's
Speaker 3: probably really annoying to listen to. Apologies. If you've made
Speaker 3: it this far, we have really like a couple. So
Speaker 3: we're done.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: You like everything I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a fan, But that long pause, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't but I know that. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to air anything I don't like here in this forum.
Speaker 2: That's what.
Speaker 3: This is marriage therapy, right.
Speaker 2: No, But I think I think that the voice is
Speaker 2: weirdly accurate instinct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very tight and very fast, very like
Speaker 3: New York or like it's the East Coast vibes, and
Speaker 3: it's very like defensive, like everything is just like on
Speaker 3: the defense, like someone's attacking them for no reason.
Speaker 2: It's intense and it's gotten deeper. So you doing that gravel.
Speaker 2: That gravel is new, that's not always been. No voice,
Speaker 2: now's a little bit more. Yeah, it's a little bit more.
Speaker 3: If you want to be shocked, go back and watch
Speaker 3: clips of her with Jesse on the first season.
Speaker 2: Of this show. Just you won't.
Speaker 3: You're just going to be shocked. I showed them to
Speaker 3: my dad. He couldn't believe it was the same person.
Speaker 2: Jesse was the first season Blonde Jesse.
Speaker 3: Jesse was her first season yeah, on the show, when
Speaker 3: she went to Amsterdam m hm. And then he came
Speaker 3: to America to visit and he they got into a
Speaker 3: huge fight over cook cutting steaks on the biases and
Speaker 3: then she threw a high heel at him, and I
Speaker 3: think he wanted the police to be called because that's assault,
Speaker 3: and in front of the children. Her daughter's there when
Speaker 3: they were arguing about the stakes. He was a jerk.
Speaker 3: He's a terrible person too. And he went on to
Speaker 3: date Jennifer, who dated Tim and who is they're both
Speaker 3: on this Hunt for Love show now at this resort
Speaker 3: and they hate each other. Also, she's broken up with
Speaker 3: Jesse finally and says he was horrible and like, she
Speaker 3: doesn't say he was abusive, but she hints that he
Speaker 3: was at least emotionally abusive and like controlling Jesse is.
Speaker 2: Out for Jesse, and it's very obvious. Yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: not a relationship person.
Speaker 3: No, Jesse looks like a serial killer. There's something like
Speaker 3: it's too perfect, and like his eyes don't have any
Speaker 3: warmth behind them, and you're like, you might murder me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he seems like yeah too particular as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Tom was just a jerk, Like Tom was
Speaker 3: just a a hole, like just a bachelor jerk, and
Speaker 3: like I don't think he was evil like Jesse.
Speaker 2: Was, but he wasn't nice. He didn't give her the rin, he.
Speaker 3: Gave her a key. And then when they broke up,
Speaker 3: he said, looks like you put on some weight to her,
Speaker 3: which is horrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then and then my favorite one I need
Speaker 2: to go back and watch is Darcy getting ready in
Speaker 2: the airport to go see him, Like yes.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she did a full glam makeover in.
Speaker 2: The flame up in the airport bathroom. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't remember Stacy ever having her own season, she
Speaker 2: had her own seaton. She didn't know.
Speaker 3: They just went to Darcy and Stacy had a few
Speaker 3: seasons and then she and Florine were on Last Resort
Speaker 3: last season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I'm interested in that.
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Darcy came to visit.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It was this after they went to Turkey.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, after the Faces. Yeah, so next time,
Speaker 3: Darcy and Georgie flight a and she wants his parents
Speaker 3: to feel her love because she's a giver, and she
Speaker 3: starts crying.
Speaker 2: I think she's like.
Speaker 3: I don't want to feel my love, which I love
Speaker 3: because I love. I do think she has a huge heart.
Speaker 3: She don't really immature childish way, like there's something very
Speaker 3: like damaged, but it's like she does have a big heart.
Speaker 2: It's damage because she keeps getting hurt by these bothos
Speaker 2: like chocolate. I'm curious. It's a never ele and her dad.
Speaker 3: Seems great, so like I just don't know where it
Speaker 3: comes from, because I don't know what her mom's deal is,
Speaker 3: but like her dad seems so nice and puts up
Speaker 3: with his daughter shenanigans.
Speaker 2: But maybe we don't know. All's not what we seem.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: So the Florida moms have a girl's night and Lauren's
Speaker 3: gonna try to smooth things over with Libby.
Speaker 2: And didn Lauren have a crazy bachelorette?
Speaker 3: She did, and Andre was so pissed almost canceled the
Speaker 3: wedding because she went to a strip club. I'm sorry
Speaker 3: Alexi was. Alexi was so mad that she went to
Speaker 3: strip club. He was screaming at her friend who took
Speaker 3: her to the strip club because it was against his wishes,
Speaker 3: and they got into several huge fights. And then when
Speaker 3: they went to Israel to do their second wedding, they
Speaker 3: got to another huge fight the day of the wedding,
Speaker 3: like in the wedding dress. Like they've had so much
Speaker 3: so many fights.
Speaker 2: Too, Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3: Add not but they really love each other, it seems so.
Speaker 3: They are I will say my least favorite couple on
Speaker 3: Pillow Talk, though I used to kind of enjoy them
Speaker 3: on pillow Talk because she would do these expressions when
Speaker 3: somebody was she would just be like like she would
Speaker 3: have her mouth open the way I would.
Speaker 2: Have my mouth open. But that.
Speaker 3: Jamal and Kimbali are my favorite. Yeah, they're whole areas.
Speaker 3: Even though Jamal is also was a jerk on his season, but.
Speaker 2: I didn't know Jamal had a season.
Speaker 3: He dated Veronica of Tim and Veronica on a Single Life,
Speaker 3: and he was a jerk. But I really do enjoy
Speaker 3: them together a mom and son.
Speaker 2: They're oh, you know, it's funny.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, uh Ashley and Manuel,
Speaker 3: but Ashley is like a witch and she and her
Speaker 3: mom are on Pillow Talk and they are very fun. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I'm enjoying them. Kenny and Armando are always good.
Speaker 3: But and David and Annie haven't been on for a while,
Speaker 3: so they just had a baby. They're on they were
Speaker 3: on diaries. They finally had a baby, so very exciting.
Speaker 3: So why Livia and Andre are sometimes on pillow talking anyway,
Speaker 3: So the Florida moms have this girl's night. Adnon wants
Speaker 3: Tiger Lily to become a Muslim, so that's fun. And
Speaker 3: Guillermo and again, it's fine if that's what you want
Speaker 3: to do, but it's not fine if he led you
Speaker 3: to believe that you didn't have to and now you
Speaker 3: have to. So Giermo says, I could join the Air
Speaker 3: Force as a pilot. So now he just doesn't want
Speaker 3: to be a private pilot. He now wants to join
Speaker 3: the military as a pilot. And She's like, what are
Speaker 3: you talking about. You'd have you have no plan, you
Speaker 3: would have to be away from your family.
Speaker 2: What what do you for for a long time?
Speaker 3: So what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Benefits? I mean, yeah, college paid for it, so I
Speaker 2: know what.
Speaker 3: And they do live in Virginia, so I feel like
Speaker 3: there are like more places he could be or maybe
Speaker 3: he'd get sent to Texas to or I don't know
Speaker 3: where the military where's the Air Force out of You're
Speaker 3: asking the wrong person. I don't know why I'm asking myself,
Speaker 3: so someone will tell me. So she they're arguing their
Speaker 3: marriage is terrible Texas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say. I said, I'm so sorry. Seeing
Speaker 2: two people in my life have done it, I feel
Speaker 2: like I should know. I believe you go to you
Speaker 2: go to Texas, when you go into the boot camp
Speaker 2: for the Air Force specifically, I believe maybe there's multiple.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, we know so little. This is sad.
Speaker 2: Nobody get mad. Nobody get mad. My dad went to
Speaker 2: San Antokiyo, Texas basic training. That's where san in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: I said, Santa Antokio because this says san Antonio, dash Lachland, Texas.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's I don't know what Lachland is.
Speaker 3: Okay, Lachland, Yeah, okay, whatever, we don't know.
Speaker 2: In Air Force Base San Antonio, Texas, we've done it
Speaker 2: is the sole location for enlisted recruit training and then
Speaker 2: you're sent off all.
Speaker 3: Over Yay, okay, we did it. So gear they're fighting.
Speaker 2: Jasmine is in some sort of one of those.
Speaker 3: At home heat tank SPA things where it's like a song.
Speaker 3: I don't know what, you know, where you have it
Speaker 3: has walls and your head is sticking out. I feel
Speaker 3: like I love Lucy did one like yeah.
Speaker 2: And she has a sweat off like excess weight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in in Matt's house. She has completely taken
Speaker 3: over for Matt's house and she now has this sweat
Speaker 3: tank in his house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt hates her, right, I mean, Matt doesn't like
Speaker 2: Matt likes to bang her.
Speaker 3: But I don't know what Matt's emotional capacity is for
Speaker 3: feelings or maybe he loves her.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh no, it seems like not want
Speaker 2: to be in a relationship at all, and is like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm fine to be like you're I'm fine to be
Speaker 2: in an open marriage situation with your body and all that.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So he She's like, I'm hoping. Jazz Gino comes back
Speaker 3: from Vegas and he wants me back.
Speaker 2: Are you are you hoping?
Speaker 3: So they meet up in a parking lot and she
Speaker 3: is not wearing pants.
Speaker 2: No, she is.
Speaker 3: Really committed to the over the thigh eye boots with
Speaker 3: no pants.
Speaker 2: Look, so I'm going to start doing that just for
Speaker 2: no reason, just no pants. Let's see how that goes here.
Speaker 2: How well do you think that'll go in Tennessee? We'll see.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what Darcy's gonna wear to Bulgaria.
Speaker 2: She wears a fur coat. I think she's in like
Speaker 2: a big faux fur thing. I think I saw like love.
Speaker 3: But for her, that's covered up, that's toned down.
Speaker 2: That's not she knows what to do. That's what bothers
Speaker 2: me is. It's like, you know, you go get like
Speaker 2: a black like if it's winter, go get yourself. You know,
Speaker 2: a tie will sensible, a sensible coat. You know what
Speaker 2: to do. And if you want to do some self expression,
Speaker 2: wear some fun shoes, you know, but just you know
Speaker 2: what to do here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if she's capable.
Speaker 2: And also, don't be ornery, don't be like no, and.
Speaker 3: Like, it's not about you. You're meeting his family, so
Speaker 3: it's not about you. So maybe you can swallow your
Speaker 3: pride and like wear something reasonable and not make a
Speaker 3: scene and not make it about you and.
Speaker 2: Don't cause a fight. This feels like an easy way
Speaker 2: to avoid a fight because he's going he's asking something
Speaker 2: of you, so you know that's okay, and his family
Speaker 2: knows about you.
Speaker 3: You're always like worried he's cheating and stuff is family.
Speaker 3: You're bringing it being brought home to meet his family,
Speaker 3: and he says he's never brought a girl home before,
Speaker 3: so you should feel special instead of making it like
Speaker 3: he's trying to change you with your clothes.
Speaker 2: Also, they've seen you. I'm assuming they've seen pictures or
Speaker 2: seen you.
Speaker 3: I think I don't know what's happened if no one's
Speaker 3: given them a Discovery Plus membership and a VPN, like
Speaker 3: if they just don't if he doesn't send them pictures
Speaker 3: or I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, Oh, he needs to send pictures.
Speaker 3: So they are prepared, yes, for what they are about
Speaker 3: to meet.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and then she's significantly old. They just need
Speaker 2: to they just need to know, and he just needs
Speaker 2: to He needs to do his work too. On this
Speaker 2: is what I'm saying, and say she's very American, like
Speaker 2: just what you think of of American. She is that, right, So, yeah.
Speaker 3: You didn't meet Nicki. I don't think Nicki and Igor
Speaker 3: slash just and that was a whole thing. And she
Speaker 3: went to go visit him in his very conservative country.
Speaker 3: And she dresses much like Darcy. She has a lot
Speaker 3: of body dysmorphia. She's a trans woman, and she's had
Speaker 3: a lot of plastic surgery on her face, and she
Speaker 3: wears a ton of hair and makeup, and she'd yes
Speaker 3: from La and she was always concerned people were staring
Speaker 3: at her because she's trans woman. But I think they
Speaker 3: were staring at you because of your face and your
Speaker 3: makeup and your style, your hot pink outfit. You know,
Speaker 3: that is just not like how people dress in that country.
Speaker 2: So that's why they were staring at you. Did they
Speaker 2: break up? Yes, I believe so, I will. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I good, Yeah, yeah, good, Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they had need to split.
Speaker 3: Yes, very weird, toxic relationship. They know, when he was
Speaker 3: like nineteen and she was like way older.
Speaker 2: So and then they broke up and they.
Speaker 3: Got back together, so it was like really weird and inappropriate.
Speaker 2: He would have free all right. He would not sleep
Speaker 2: with her.
Speaker 3: He wouldn't sleep with her, and she felt really insecure
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 2: I remember that was a hard one. I remember that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah.
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